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A Tough Conversation, That We Nee To Have (Hour 1)
Civic Media Mid-Mornings · Tue Feb 3, 2026
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After the news, we're going to be talking to the host of the Dr. Kristen Lyreley show.
Dr. Kristen Lyreley herself will be here to talk about
Measles in Wisconsin talking about Green Bay's reaction to Alex Pretty's murder as he was someone who grew up in Green Bay went to school there discussing
how the people are coming out to support this young man who was killed by ICE agents in Minneapolis two weeks ago.
Also talking about what's coming up on her show this Saturday, she has assured me that it will knock my socks off.
So you don't want to go anywhere when we're talking to Dr. Lierley.
And then in the 10 o'clock hour, we've got no data centers in DeForest.
They are a group that is pushing back and with relative success as well.
We'll be speaking with two of their members here on the show.
Talking about the work they do as a group to protect their environment, their community from data centers.
And this is a story of success.
I will tell you that.
I won't give away the whole plot, but you want to stick around because for folks who are, you know, whether they're in the middle on it where they want transparency, they want to make sure there's no secrets or folks who just do not want them in their communities.
This is a conversation you're going to want to hear because this is about coming together, standing up.
taking notice of what's going on in your local village board meetings, town hall meetings, city council meetings, county board meetings.
That is where the details lay.
That is where the decisions are made, which directly affect you and your family and your loved ones and your friends and just the people around you.
But this is a great story talking to no data centers in DeForest in the 10 o'clock hour.
Then it's 1035 audio Sorbet.
Calvin, I don't know if you know this.
Calvin, by the way, is on the boards on the ones in the twos.
He's our guy, our tech producer.
Good morning, Calvin.
How are you today?
I'm doing pretty good, Greg.
How are you?
I'm doing well.
I'm doing okay.
I'm doing well.
Okay.
Good.
I'll say okay.
Well, okay.
Good throughout the day.
That's how I operate.
If I'm doing great, I'm not sure.
I don't trust great right now with me.
You never know.
Cause it's like, like, why is it great?
Who's benefiting?
Who is, who is not benefiting?
But I'm doing well.
We're doing good.
It's a Tuesday.
It's getting.
sort of warmer out, but it's national carrot cake day.
I have a lot of opinions on carrot cake.
I want to know if you do too.
And not just carrot cake.
I want to know, you know, we're going back to the days of the food rules or the food thoughts, but what is a food that everyone else seems to really love that you just can't?
do.
You're like, no, thank you.
There's not a version of it.
There's no, if someone pushes you a plate of this dish, you're like, and no, thank you.
You should have asked me before you've, you served up this trash.
That's what we want to talk about in the 10 30, uh, audio sorbet today.
And then at the end of the show, it's a handy tip from Greg today.
I'm talking to a sportsman, a pugilist who had a
An interesting night this past weekend when in a boxing match, if you follow any sort of social media, you probably saw us, but just a handy tip for him from me.
And if anything, I'm going to tell him to fully love himself, which I think he already does, but you know,
a handy tip from Greg to round out the show, but it's going to be really, really great today.
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I want to start off with a story of positivity, of good news right now coming out of Wisconsin.
And we have been talking about this little by little as we've known the details, but there is a story out right now in the Wisconsin examiner.
Baylor Spears has the byline Wisconsin I back online as lawmakers work on a long-term solution.
Now, for those listening, for those watching, those who don't know, Wisconsin I is essentially Wisconsin's version of C-SPAN.
It records the meetings, it records the discussions that are happening at the state capitol, so we can watch them back, see what our lawmakers are talking about, see what they are proposing.
They are used by individuals, by nonprofits, by lobbying agencies.
A lot of lobbying agencies use this service.
And seven weeks ago, it went dark because of funding issues.
And they had been scrambling for the past few weeks to take care of this problem because it is a matter of transparency.
It's a matter of the people understanding what's going on because these folks there are elected officials.
They are doing the work on behalf of us.
We have a right to see what's going on as long as it's legally possible.
Of course, I'm sure there's closed door meeting rules that we can't see.
But as far as discussions and committee, discussions and commissions, voting that takes place on the floor.
This is the tool that allows us to watch, watch what's happening from anywhere in the world too, because we can't all get to Madison.
We can't all observe this live.
And also there are rules in place where you cannot record it if you aren't of a certain position or on a certain level in the state house.
So that was the other problem is that people were trying to videotape meetings so they could disseminate the information and they were being shut down because of previously engaged rules that said you couldn't do that.
But.
Just out now, Wisconsin Eye, the state's nonprofit that livestreams archive government meetings and legislative sessions has restarted its coverage as of yesterday after lawmakers had approved $50,000 of a cash infusion as a short term while they continue to do work on a long term deal.
Right now, Wisconsin Eye has a go fund me up.
If I'm not mistaken, I think they've raised around $50,000.
Their goal is $250,000.
If you want to donate to that, I will put that in the show notes.
You can do that, give whatever you can, because this is all about our access and transparency.
But the organization has been providing streaming services of the capital for nearly two decades.
It stopped that coverage, as I said.
And the legislature
Along with Tony Evers had set aside $10 million for Wisconsin.
I but with a fundraising match requirement The service was not able to meet because that's you know, that is a great deal of money Wisconsin I though is back online Broadcasting Monday morning press conference with no with the plans to stream Tuesday's legislative activities after the joint committee on legislative organization voted unanimously via paper ballot to provide $50,000 to the organization to resume its February coverage, which I think we'll take it
through most of the session, because as we have spoken about before, this is a short work year.
The year after the budget is passed, they only work about eight to 10 weeks, depending on what's going on.
And then the rest of the year is off.
The rest of the year, they're getting paid.
The rest of the year, they're getting benefits.
The rest of the year, they're getting per diem.
But what we have now is the ability to see what's going on.
And you can go and watch it right now in Wisconsin.
I just want to make that.
clear to everyone because I know folks who listen, folks who've called in, do participate in this service.
And that is a matter that needs to be protected.
I know it's not, it's not sexy national news.
It's not something coming out of the White House.
It's not something that is a, you know, all over 24 hour news media, but that's the point.
These are things we need to know about right here in our backyard.
So if you want to check out Wisconsin Eye, you can absolutely do that.
In other news, so we are in an election year.
One of the big races here in, I would say, I would say that the biggest state election is, of course, the governor's race.
We've got Tom Tiffany, who is the presumptive nominee at this point.
He has gotten the endorsement of the president.
He also has the endorsement of his former opponent, Josh Showman, who's the Washington County executive.
who dropped out last week and endorsed after President Trump endorsed Mr. Tiffany.
But one that we want to keep our eyes on as well is a congressional race in the seventh to replace Tom Tiffany, who will be running for governor.
And that has also gotten a presidential endorsement.
And that presidential endorsement goes to a Mr. Michael Alfonso, who is in the, he is a Republican running into the primary of the seventh congressional district.
Tuesday evening, he got an endorsement.
The race is for Tom Tiffany seat.
He says, quote, it is my great honor to endorse MAGA warrior, Michael Alfonso, a young star.
And for some reason, star is all caps in quotes.
I feel like that is insulting, but I don't know who is running to represent the incredible people of Wisconsin seventh congressional district.
As your next congressman, Michael will work tirelessly to grow our economy, cut taxes and regulations, champion our amazing farmers and ranchers, promote made in the USA, advance American energy dominance, keep our borders secure.
It's a variance of non-capitalization and capitalization.
Very weird.
Stop migrant crime.
It's a long post.
Stop migrant crime, support our military slash veterans, safeguard our elections and protect our always under siege second amendment.
I'm bringing this up because as we know, right here in Wisconsin, we're looking at a ballot that's going to ostensibly kill DEI here in the state of Wisconsin.
The president has spoken wildly about how DEI is terrible.
Our assembly speaker, Robin Boss, has called DEI, quote, cancerous in interviews.
And the reason why I'm bringing this all up is because they do not like DEI.
Dislike DEI to the Hilt.
But one thing they really love is nepotism.
They love nepotism, folks.
And the reason why is because Michael Alfonso is the son-in-law of Sean Duffy, former congressman here in Wisconsin, current Department of Transportation Secretary.
So Sean Duffy's son-in-law, married to his daughter, is running for Congress, has the president's endorsement.
So really, when it comes down to it, I think it's important for us to find out more about Mr. Alfonso as well, because he's running for the job.
We're going to look into all the candidates.
I have a feeling that we'll be sitting down in the next few weeks and months talking to Dan Schaefer about a breakdown regarding all of the races here in Wisconsin.
Michael Alfonso is one we should keep an eye on because he is the son-in-law of the current deputy of sec, uh, deputy, sorry, department of secretary, Kelvin.
I'm just discombobulated.
He is the son-in-law, the transportation secretary, Sean Duffy.
And I think that speaks a lot to the fact that he shouldn't think he just gets the job because the president likes him, because his father-in-law is in the cabinet.
So I want us to find out more about this man.
I want to find out all about the candidates.
He is 25 year old.
He announced back in October.
He said the north northern Wisconsin needs to needs to continue to have representation who will truly put families Communities and America first he has worked as a producer for the Dan Bongino podcast which is back on the air by the way Dan Bongino who was
was the FBI assistant director stepped down in January and is now back on the podcasting world.
He says, I was born and raised with the traditional Wisconsin values of faith, community and hard work.
And now I'm ready to give back to the area that gave me so much.
I've watched as the American dream has continued to slip away from the people who so deserve it.
Alfonso says, I've seen the efforts of higher taxes and increased costs of living on our families and our farms.
I love when they throw farms in there and the erosion of our constitutional rights.
Well, Mr. Alfonso, you are in the race as of last year.
You have the endorsement of the president.
Your father-in-law probably put his hand on your shoulder and said, good job, son, but now you're in the race.
And we'll be talking more about this because if we don't like DEI, why do we like nepotism?
question.
I think we should keep on asking throughout the rest of this year regarding this campaign, regarding the election on the whole.
But we're talking more about the news when we come back and then a discussion with Dr. Kristen Lyrely, the host of the Dr. Kristen Lyrely show right here on mid mornings on civic media.
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We still call Twitter, including a comment from Alicia who says, Hey, any Wisconsin news is sexy.
talking about earlier about Wisconsin, I being back on the air because that's very important for transparency, very important for those who want to see what our leaders are doing in Madison.
And like, you know, and I appreciate that Alicia, because you look at stories and yeah, I could fill the first half an hour, hour, two hours with everything you were hearing on social media, everything you are hearing on 24 hour news coverage, but
A lot of times they're not, I would say most of the times they're not covering what's happening right here in Wisconsin, right in the backyards of our homes and our neighbors and everything like that.
So thank you, Alicia for that.
You're right.
Any Wisconsin news is sexy.
Speaking of news, Calvin, did you, a really quick question.
Did you go see any movies this weekend?
I did not go see any movies.
So you didn't, you didn't see the new, the new Melania documentary.
Oh no, I did not.
You forgot.
I completely slipped my mind.
If anybody doesn't know already, the Melania documentary is out in the theaters.
It is a controversial documentary directed by Brett Ratner, who is a controversial human.
Just Google Brett Ratner and allegations.
And there you go.
You're done with that for the day.
It was tracked to make three to $5 million in the opening.
It has made $7 million in its opening weekend, which is very, very good.
Documentaries traditionally do not make a lot of money in the theaters.
That's just how it is.
It has to be, I mean, I think the, I think the most successful one is still Fahrenheit 9-11, but this one definitely overcame expectations.
And they said a senior analyst at Exhibitor Relations says that $1 million is a huge number.
So three to five projected and seven actual, that is
a very good thing.
But what's really funny is that it has, from what I understand, a 7% on Rotten Tomatoes.
Let me see here real quick here.
Rotten Tomatoes score is very 6%.
That is the aggregate from the reviewers.
And then the popcorn meter, which are the people who are rating it, the folks just who go see it, give us a 99% Calvin.
What do you say to that?
Do you feel like the the the the tomato meter has been rigged stolen?
I Wouldn't say that I think It has their verified reviews like you had to have seen the movie to be able to submit your For
the
audience review for the popcorn
a
meter.
Yes, it's 500 plus verified ratings.
Okay,
so
My assumption would be that the 500 plus verified people that went and wasted Calvin who spent their time
this
weekend seeing that movie Were people who were like obviously going to like it.
Yeah, of course.
I mean look I don't like
My problem with the movie isn't so much that it was made.
It was the fact that Jeff Bezos basically gave it as a gift to the Trumps.
This is another example of whether we're talking about Katari Plain.
We're talking about a movie.
We're talking about a Nobel Peace Prize.
We're just handing things over to this guy so we can quell him to keep him on like off your back.
That is concerning to me.
There are people out there who are going to love this movie.
There's no doubt about that.
There's and honestly, whatever, you can love that movie.
I love the movie, The Last Dragon.
And most of you never heard of that.
And a lot of you would probably say that movie's terrible, but I don't think it is.
I think it's great.
But I just think it's very funny when things like this happen.
$7 million is a lot of money for documentary.
6% on the tomato meter is a very low score.
I think, I think secret wars from Marvel, the TV show, I think actually has a little bit higher, but still it's, I just find this interesting, but the bigger conversation for me is not so much the disparage, this disparage.
The different numbers, Calvin, it is a day.
I'm discombobulated.
I need Dan here to recombobulate the news and the world for me today.
But the disparity between the tomato meter and the popcorn meter, I think it's just funny.
It's more of the conversation underneath.
Why was it made in the first place?
Who are the money makers and who are the people who hand over the, I mean, this is basically a 90 minute to two hour commercial for what they're doing.
And I think that is the bigger problem, but this is Jeff Bezos.
It's his money.
It's his company.
And, you know, I just want to make people aware of what's happening.
A lot of you probably already are, but I think it's still worth the conversation.
Cause throughout the year, throughout the time, we always forget about these smaller things.
And then we move on to something else.
And then we go back and go, Oh yeah, there was that movie.
Oh yeah.
That was that.
Oh yeah.
He destroyed the East Wing, which someone I was talking to, by the way, said the other day, like I totally forgot.
He completely demolished the East Wing.
So
These little things are all important to keep in your memory when we're talking about these topics and really making the case to folks who say, well, what's wrong with this?
Well, it was given to them for free.
And that seems like an ethical violation politically, morally, all those things.
So sorry, I went off there, but I just found that I found the story funny.
And the fact that the fact is a 6% rating is
really, really funny to me.
But before we get out of here and go grab some snacks and some water, we, I just want to talk about one really quick thing that we'll probably, we'll talk more about with Dr. Liarley.
And this is regarding Mr. Alex Pretty, who was murdered in Minneapolis a couple of weeks ago by ICE agents.
And he was a nurse.
He was a community member.
I looked after people.
He took care of vets at the VA.
And Milwaukee held a bike ride in his honor because he was a big bike rider, took part in a yearly celebration here in Milwaukee every year called the River West 24.
But they got together this weekend to honor Mr. Pretty.
We'll talk more about that, what Green Bay is doing in the wake of this, as well as measles are in Wisconsin.
Dr. Kristen Lierly joins us to discuss what to do and why you should do it.
right here on Civic Media, mid mornings.
My name is Greg Bach.
Don't go anywhere.
Stay tuned.
Stay close.
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Still ahead after the 10 o'clock news, we have no data centers in DeForest.
It's a group up there in DeForest, Wisconsin that's doing some great work with great news, especially for those folks who want to protect their communities and environments from data centers, which are here in Wisconsin.
It's a hot topic.
It really blew up last year.
We were talking about it almost every week now on this show and no data centers into forest is a group that's working very hard and achieving their goals and protecting their community and as well as their environment, but they'll be here after the 10 o'clock news.
It's audio sorbet.
It's national carrot cake day.
What other foods are trash that you don't like that everybody loves?
Sorry, I'm going right on saying carrot cake is trash.
It's a it's a it's a it's a message to me that you don't know me and you certainly do not like me Putting that out there right now audio survey at 1035 and then a handy tip from Greg rounding out the show this morning where I'm going to speak to a a sportsman a boxer about choices on what to wear While in the ring, I promise you it will be fun and it will be enlightening and it will be positive because I believe you should just
Live your life and journey, your journey.
Speaking of journey, journeying our journey, we're journeying to our first guest, who's not just a guest.
She is a colleague, she is a host, but more importantly, she is a friend.
She is my doctor, she doesn't know that.
It's Dr. Kristen Lyrely, host of the Dr. Kristen Lyrely show.
I know Dr. Lyrely, your quote, an OBGYN, and that probably can't make me your...
You're my doctor, and that's just how it is.
So good morning, Dr. Lyrely.
How are you today?
I like carrot cake.
Well, that's been Dr. Lyrely.
Have a good day, everybody.
She is fired
from the show.
I actually love carrot cake, and now I'm really hungry, and I'm thinking about, like, where?
Because I don't have time to bake one, so where can I get a good carrot cake?
You got
four kids.
Make them bake one.
Yeah,
actually they're they're much better cooks than I am but I'm a better baker than they are
well there you go I mean that's who what's the music in the back?
Oh hold on a second.
Hey Google
We don't have the clearance for that.
I don't know why Google just does that I wasn't even listening to that before Google's sassy
Google's always listening.
They're all always listening period.
That's just how it is I
told my wife like two years ago that I wanted to just I wanted to look at maybe getting a smartwatch and I'm not kidding you for the next six months.
That's all it was on my phone smartwatch advertisements and I'm like this is this is too much but what we're here to talk about more importantly than my weird commercials on social media.
First of all let's talk like you are the host of the Dr. Kristen Lierley show which is on every Saturday from noon correct or
Saturday and Sunday at noon across Pacific Media Network and wherever you get your podcasts and on YouTube at Dr. Kristen Lairley.
There you go.
There you go.
And you, I mean, it's not, you don't just talk about medicine.
You don't just talk about healthcare, which are two things you deeply, deeply advocate for as far as like healthcare access, healthcare for folks who need it, regardless of your political background or your class background, but also your show talks to community leaders.
Tell us a little bit about the show as well as what can you want to share now what you got coming up.
You said it would knock my socks off.
I do.
I'm so excited for our show this weekend.
Oh my gosh.
It is.
It's so health care politics.
It's all together, especially women's health care, you know, orthopedic surgeons, cardiologists.
They don't have to deal with the political interference that we have to deal with.
And then when you look at the health care on a greater level, it's.
economic.
It's, it affects the way that we live our lives on so many different levels.
So we talk about all of those little things, the social determinants of health, how clean water makes a difference, how the people you elect makes a difference.
So it is so much more than just healthcare.
And Greg, this week, guest, you're my guest.
It's me, folks.
You're welcome.
I'm here to talk about Lego.
What's up?
Who's coming on?
It is the co-founder of The Daily Show, Liz Winstead.
Oh my goodness.
I
know.
She's amazing.
She's so funny.
Is her group still abortion AF?
Yes, yes, and they are the abortion access that's not fun abortion access I'll come up with it and I'll get you the contact info Yeah, they do incredible work in that sphere
in
addition to all of the work.
She's done I mean she was also a co-founder of air America Which laid the groundwork for all of this progressive talk?
She gets how we use comedy in these really dark times to get messages across to people who otherwise aren't listening and aren't paying attention and I mean let's be honest even
for those of us who do, it makes it that much more entertaining.
And it makes us able to cope with so many of these things that are happening.
So it was such a fun interview.
She's brilliant.
And I have this feeling like hopefully we're going to be doing some work together in the future.
I can't see why not.
I mean, the company I'm involved with, Milwaukee Comedy, we've done shows with.
like it's it's gone through a couple name changes over the years, but we've worked with Ms.
Winstead a few times and she's always a delight and she's a she's you know, she I believe she's in her sixties now, but there is no stopping the energy and the and the drive to intertwine comedy and the message of this topic.
And that has been her.
Her.
thing for decades now.
And I just want to bring up really quick.
You said before, she is a co-creator of the Daily Show.
Daily Show created 30 years ago this summer by two women, by the way, Madeline Smithburg, or Madeline Smithburg and Liz Winstead created the Daily Show 30 years ago.
And it's funny.
Change the face of how we interpret, how we consume political information.
Sorry to interrupt
you.
Oh, no, no.
And to a certain degree,
who we will accept information from it too.
And the conversation of comedians as influencers, comedians as that's a hot topic for me personally, but I feel that who Liz Winstead is now and has been for a long time is
what the Daily Show eventually became.
Because in the beginning it was very parody, it was very just like, you know, no one was going to the Daily Show for the first six years for the news.
And it was after 9-11 with Jon Stewart where everything changed.
And I feel like, you know, that is how we found this ability to take the hard pill and wrap it in sugar and jokes and swallow it down and try to find out more about it.
But that's going to be, that'll be amazing.
So that will be on
on the Pacific media radio network.
If you can't catch it live, you can always go back and download it by going to civic media dot US slash shows.
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You can find it there, or you can subscribe to it as a podcast.
That way it will be automatically uploaded to your phone device, whatever it is every single time, but that'll be an amazing discussion.
Very much looking forward for that for to that for you.
She also talks about how the Daily Show came about, like how she got the idea, and then goes into like, oh, and then I discovered Rachel Maddow, and like all of these things, and I'm like, are you kidding me?
Abortion Access Front
is
the name of her organization.
She also has a podcast, Feminist Buzzkill.
Oh, by the way, Abortion Access Front used to be called the Lady Parts Justice League, which is one of my favorite things
ever.
Uh, if you're just joining us on civic media mid mornings, we are talking to Dr. Kristen Lyrely, who is the host of the Dr. Kristen Lyrely show, as we just said, every Saturday, Sunday, noon on the network.
Uh, the, what's very funny is that like the, when you talk about the Air America portion of it all too is a lot of those folks, you know, Mark, Mark, Mark Marin came, he was STEM comedian, but he also roots in Air America.
Tom Hartman, who is on the network, who will be following us from 11 to two.
Rachel Maddow.
I mean, it's really like it air America is an interesting story.
But after the fall of it, how some of these voices disseminated into the mainstream consciousness of where we are at here and how we consume our information and how a lot of them come from, you know, Mark Marin, Sam Cedar, come from comedy and know
how to
present it in a way that is both informative yet entertaining, never losing the informative edge or credibility of it all.
But let's
that I think that, you know, we've been talking about, of course, since it happened, the murder of Mr. Alex Pretty.
And the reason why I wanted to have you on the show was because he has a tie here to Wisconsin.
He grew up in Green Bay.
He went to school in Green Bay.
And we really saw an outpouring of love from Wisconsin, but specifically in Green Bay.
Doctor, what have you seen since then, as far as...
just the community uprising and and the attitude and the conversations that are happening there because what happened next door to us?
Hey, I'll tell you Green Bay, this is the area that I grew up in.
I'm like six generations deep in northeast Wisconsin.
So I know these people, we do not talk about things like sex, religion or politics.
So it is really hard to talk about something that is so politically charged.
But
Alex Pretty grew up here.
He sang in the boys choir.
He went to Preble High School, and this community is struggling with how to put this together and remember him in the way that we know he was, a good, kind human who stood up for the underdog, who was an athlete and a theater kid and liked everybody.
You know,
he
didn't do that thing in high school where you were just part of one group or the other.
the memorial at Preble High School where the sign is and the things that people have brought out are just beautiful.
And I had the privilege on Saturday when they did those nationwide bike rides.
So
he's a cyclist.
Also, he
was a cyclist.
So his cycling group out of Minneapolis encouraged other bike shops to do rides.
And the recyclist down in Kokona, which is an awesome place if you're in Fox Valley, please stop and visit Laura.
She put one together.
And she asked me to say a few words.
I'm a cacana girl.
That's my heart.
So she asked me to say a few words and I was prepared to do that.
But who walks in the door but Alex Pretty's college sweetheart.
And she had, she's just an incredible spokesperson.
She had beautiful stories to share that came straight out of her heart.
So I said a couple things and introduced her and what a kickoff she gave us and what joy we gave her back as she is trying to figure out her way through this and working with Alex's family and figuring out the legal response and the community response.
You know, there's so much.
ugliness and polarization associated with what literally was a state sanctioned execution.
I mean, if anybody has objectively looked at these videos, like, this is not how police work.
I can tell you, police don't wear masks.
They identify themselves, and they de-escalate.
And this was clearly an escalation.
So.
there's so much more to come.
And it is our obligation as citizens, especially citizens who knew Alex, who understand what's happening here to tell the truth about what's going on and to make sure that we don't forget about this because this is a long game.
This is going to last the courts.
Don't turn over quickly.
This is going to be years in the making and we are all going to be part of this.
I think, you know, we had Mark Becker who on the show last week, who is the host of Rational
also on civic media.
Talking about the fact that this has to bring up the conversation of you know where and where do you stand conversation but one that says like look these things are happening and it's okay to have doubts and have questions it's okay to sit down and have a conversation if this is you know does this represent who you are and and if if this is acceptable why are you know if this is acceptable to be done
Why are the other things not acceptable?
Whereas the, you know, if your outrage isn't consistent, it's not valid.
And if you're not outraged about Alex Pretty being murdered, if you're someone who says, don't tread on me, then this should be something that sends you to insanity.
But if it doesn't, then you have to question your own beliefs.
And it's all about like sitting down and talking to people in a very
you know, it's a really meaningful way.
And like you said, a community and communities that don't talk about these topics, but we're going to keep talking about these topics, including the measles are here in Wisconsin, and we need to discuss that because.
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again, but
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We have no data centers in DeForest talking about what looks like big wins for them as and for the community.
We're talking more about the topic of data center secrecy amongst meetings and what you need to know when these agendas come up and what you need to read about because this isn't happening on national levels.
These are happening in your town meetings, county board meetings, city, you know, city council meetings.
It directly affects you.
That's where you need to go to find out more.
But we'll talk about that in the 10 o'clock hour.
Then it's National Carrot Cake Day.
I'm already getting pushback on this from all sides.
Look.
I
had forgotten about it for a second, but now I remember.
It's a fifth rate dessert.
Disgusting.
But I wanna know more about your thoughts on carrot cake.
Also, just a food that, you see, thing is, nobody has said they dislike it.
I'm the only one right now.
So if there's a food that everyone else likes that you don't like, I wanna know.
I mean, it's solidarity.
Even if I love it and you don't, we'd still come together with that commonality that we know when food is terrible.
But
right now- I'm just thinking about like the nuts and the raisins and the cream cheese.
Yeah, you
lost me at nuts and raisins.
All of it, just make it hearty.
I could eat that for dinner tonight.
I might eat that for dinner tonight.
Thanks, Craig.
Disgusting.
All right, we were talking to Dr. Kristen Lyrely, the host of the Dr. Kristen Lyrely show here on Civic Media, Saturdays and Sundays at noon.
You can also catch up if you go to civicmedia.us slash shows.
You can download the episodes, listen to them anytime you want, especially all the shows.
You can find a lot of programming there, tons and tons of shows going back months and months to, you know,
get your fix, get your need, get your beak wet if you will.
But we were talking about Green Bay, their reaction to the murder of Alex Pretty and the hard conversations that we are having in these towns and cities, especially here in the Midwest.
And if you listen to the secret show on the live stream, we were talking deeper about what's going to be happening after the fact of, you know, the financial tumult, the psychological and possible lawsuits because
The way they've structured the bonuses for these ICE agents are very hard to reach.
It's almost like a pyramid deal where you have to get two friends and then they have to get two friends.
And these people are gonna walk away going, where's my money?
And they'll say, sorry, read your contract.
I mean, that's how they did it.
They lured them in with good money.
And people said, I can do that.
And now they're gonna be left with a terrible reputation and the 50 grand,
probably won't be coming to them, isn't that correct?
Everything is a bait and switch with this administration.
Everything is a bait and switch.
And that's where Trump's genius really lies.
He is an amazing marketer.
He can sell you anything, but anything usually means nothing.
And people, I mean, whether it's Trump University or Trump stakes or buildings in casinos in New Jersey, people are then left holding the bag when he takes off with all the dollars.
That's going to happen in all of these situations as well.
So just wait and see.
I mean, the consequences are going to be there.
But we need instant gratification.
And we need to know things right away.
So we'll forget some of this.
So try not to.
Well, and
that's what I talked about earlier is like
keeping these things in our memory throughout, especially throughout this year during the election.
We got it.
You know, it's, you know, I was talking to someone last week who had, who said out loud, Oh my God, I forgot that he demolished the East Wing because we move on so quickly to the next thing.
whether it's the news or our lives, that it's hard to just keep up with it all.
But we'll keep the conversation going.
And I want to talk about this now.
Measles is back in Wisconsin.
There have been cases detected all over the state.
And I just, you know, we've talked about this many times.
This was gone.
And this is preventable.
And our vaccination levels are low here in Wisconsin.
Tell me your thoughts.
I know what they are, but I just want to hear them.
We have some of the lowest vaccination rates for measles in the country.
I think we're either the lowest or second lowest for kindergartners.
That's how bad it is.
And it's because...
of the Walker administration, they allowed an exemption just because you wanted an exemption.
So
kindergarteners and kids for 15 years have not been getting the standard recommended measles vaccine, even though we know that it works
and
it's safe and it's evidence-based.
And if you can have a conversation with your healthcare provider, you should because this can prevent incredible consequences for young kids, things like brain infections, pneumonia, and even death.
So
measles vaccines, we know are safe and effective.
That's the first thing I wanted to say.
The second thing that's really important is it's so hard to know where to get your health information right now.
We used to be able to go to the CDC.
The CDC right now is compromised.
So we need to look at the state and we need to look at our professional organizations.
So I want to encourage our listeners to go to aap.org.
That's the American Academy of Pediatrics.
If you have questions about vaccines, if you have questions about childhood diseases or children, how to take care of children.
that's your resource.
And the Department of Health Services here in Wisconsin, when everything went to the state, so did all of that good information.
So DHS here in Wisconsin has that information that we as healthcare providers are using to help take care of our patients.
We had an outbreak in Oconto a couple months ago.
Now there's a case in Waukesha.
There's a case in Madison, measles spreads like crazy.
There will likely be more cases.
Just give it some time.
Really quick before we get out of here, Tiffany from River Falls listening on WCFW says, should we get
our child's measles booster early if they aren't four years old yet.
You should talk to your health care provider and figure out where they land on the vaccination schedule.
The American Academy of Pediatrics has that all on their website.
We'll have all of that in the show notes as well, so you can go there if you want to ask questions.
Contact them to get, you know...
accurate and trusted advice on this, but as always, trusted advice from Dr. Kristen Lyrely, host of the Dr. Kristen Lyrely Show here on Civic Media every Saturday and Sunday at noon.
This week, and listen to it, Liz Winstead, co-creator of The Daily Show, is your guest.
Dr. Lyrely, thank you so much for being here.
I always appreciate your time, your energy, and your advocacy, and your friendship.
I
love you, Greg.
I love you back.
And we'll talk to you hopefully sooner than later.
When we come back, we're talking to no data centers into Forest about the good work they're doing in their community and how you can learn more about what's happening in your meetings with your leaders in your part of the woods.
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