Shout Out You, Black Woman

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Shout Out You, Black Woman

Black Convergence · Sat Sep 27, 2025

All right, we are back here on the Black Conversion show on 92.7 F with your girl, Brandi

Grayson and my co-host today.

Dana Palamine.

All right, as you guys have been tuning in, we've been talking about Black Women Leadership.

Please find Madison 365 article by Sabrina Madison.

She breaks it down.

She is an alter person.

You can also find the link on the recording on live or whatever that is on civic media,

on Black Conversion show, on Brandi Grayson Facebook, check it out, check out the article.

We talked about colorism, misogyny, racism, all the isms, progressive, white, progressive

racism.

And I remember Martin Luther King saying, like, we really messed up.

And I can't remember the exact quote, but our greatest, look, I'm about to mess it up.

Y'all know what I'm talking about.

Luke, you know?

Is it?

I think I know.

What is it, Luke?

The biggest concern that he had was not the-

What?

Right.

Well, yeah, it was not the racist, but the quiet moderate.

Yeah.

Moderates, though.

White moderates.

White moderates, the liberals that in the progressive who don't get what you are doing

or get how white supremacy is indoctrinated and it's insidious, it's in our blood, it's

in our bodies, it's in the character, our characterizations of self and others.

So anyway, we are going to move past that.

But I also wanted to talk about a little bit is how people known as black are unable

to see our own trauma.

As you guys know, Masaya is in fifth grade.

He's been homeschool most of his life.

This year he's struggling, like he's struggling big time and is one of the things I was afraid

of.

Last year he had an amazing teacher, Mrs. Rodriguez.

She was such a loving teacher, like she is super rated love and encouragement and

is super rated the gift of being a teacher.

Like there's people who are teachers who love it and there's people who are teachers

who don't even like their jobs.

Yes.

And I feel like Masaya is in a space where he's surrounded by people who don't like their

jobs.

And I say that because I never see them smiling.

I walk in on them occasionally, I come into the front desk, people are just mad, even

the black lady that fits at the desk is mad.

She's never happy.

I come in like, good morning.

She's like, yeah, whatever, like girl, what you mad at me for?

Like I really need to fix y'all attitudes and this is to all black people, right?

Because part of the trauma is that it's so embedded in our nervous system that it comes

spilling out of us.

And the thing that I teach my staff and I teach everybody as I do this personal leadership

and development work, I'm creating me, creating you, creating me.

So however you think you are and whoever you think you're being, you project on me and

then I project it back.

So whatever energy you give in those children, they're giving it back to you and it's causing

my baby not to be okay, like he is a kinetic being.

Anything he feels, he says it and he's expressive and he's not one of the people that is just

going to be quiet and he gets that very honestly from his mother.

So the other day he's sitting in class, a teacher and his ideas treating his friend wrong

and guess what he tells them?

You treated my friend unfairly and I don't like the way you talking to him.

And as a nine, a nine year old and a fifth grade, that's not acceptable.

What's your thoughts, Daniel?

So I have a son who is similar to Messiah and very much like his mother where if he didn't

like something, he was very vocal.

I will also say I spent almost every day at MMSD when my son was in school.

My son is on the autism spectrum and being able to fight for his services, being able

to make sure that he was seen and the reality is that on some levels, he was failed.

There are spaces where his learning gap was so great because what they were concerned

about was behavior and this is a child that has a disability even.

And you know, Messiah does not have that piece, but the focus on especially young black

boys and behavior in our schools has been detrimental and how even, you know, I remember back

in kindergarten, my son got into his very first fight.

There was a little boy that was bullying him and he's not the only person that bullied

him, but this was one that got into a fight and then they kicked that little kid out and

guess what, that little kid was a dark skin black kid.

And I said, no, we don't have to do that.

That wasn't the answer.

That wasn't the answer.

So for me, the answer was, I wanted my son in a different class.

So that little boy could stay put and then my son went to a different space because

I felt more comfortable with him in a different class because there were several things that

were happening, but they were only focusing on the black boy.

That little black boy.

Yeah, that's real.

And I feel like that, I feel so sad from a say, I want to pull them out so bad.

I'm one of my things is I just need to find someone, if you're listening to 92.7 FM,

the black conversion show with Brandi Grayson and your certified teacher educator and, you

know, preferably, a black man, I mean, you want to homeschool or do some schooling with

my son.

Reach out.

Okay, find me on Facebook.

Find me anywhere because I am really at the point where I think he just needs to be

homeschooled again.

I just feel like he's not emotionally safe.

And he's when kids aren't emotionally safe, they act up.

And that's the thing.

I'm not identifying the root of it because I know my son isn't a bad kid, but I also

know that he don't take crap from people.

And the way that people talk at our kids, the way the structure of the school is just

about behavior and not relationships.

See, the thing about people known as black and order for us to thrive, we have to feel

safe in our community.

We have to feel safe in relationship to the people that are surrounding us.

We are not like white people.

They can work in the office, not like each other and still work and come and be fine and

not be emotionally anything.

And I'm telling you, if you read the books by black psychiatrists, they tell us this.

Like we just, we have a different deeper need for community safety and relationships.

And it's a must that we practice relating to one another to survive and thrive in the

context of white supremacy.

And the last words.

Yeah.

So when we think about outside of the school system, there are spaces where this does happen.

And I actually just interviewed somebody this past week on my radio show, where we talked

a lot about this alternative education that started in New Orleans.

And it is run on very specific principles that are rooted in blackness.

And it is rooted in joy and rooted not in, they rewrote the books.

They rewrote the curriculum.

And they made sure that black, blackness itself was centered in every space.

I love it.

So that's the key.

Those are the things that we need is to surround our kids with joy because it's coming

from everywhere.

Everywhere, y'all, that's the antidote is joy, love, relating, y'all, we just do better

black people.

Heal your hearts.

Get some therapy.

Read some books.

Study the psychiatrists who study you.

Don't try to give black people the white version of education.

So anyway, we're out, we're out of time, time like always.

Join us next week.

Maybe we'll continue the conversation on black education and bring a black educator

into the studio next Saturday.

Thank you for joining us on the black conversion show on 92.7 FM, peace, love and hair,

grease.

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