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Dr. Omar Uliwa is here to answer your pharmaceutical questions.

Now, let's go in the pharmacy with Earl Ingram and Dr.

Omar.

Alright

welcome back to what's going on with Earl Ingram and I'd like to say welcome back to a man that I have admiration and love for and a man that I met a couple years back.

And at a time in my life when I struggled with my health, I'll soon be 72 years old.

And I was feeling every bit of that before I met my guests.

And over the last two years, it's kind of like taking 20 years off of my life.

And I followed his...

wonderful, wonderful advice as it relates to my health.

And he's a doctor, all right, but he's not a medical doctor.

He's a doctor of medicine.

And so to those of you who may have, you know, been joining us for the first time, my good friend and, you know, confident Dr. Omar, the pharmacist, he is the proprietor.

of Will Topia Pharmacy in Mechwan, Thamesville.

Welcome back, my friend.

How are you doing?

Welcome, Earl.

I'm doing great.

Great to be back.

Yeah, you know, it is so good to see your face and to get you back on this platform.

Let's begin by how can people get in touch with you?

People can always call or text at...

262-429-9429 or go to www.wiltopia.rx.com and send us a message.

Check the wonderful things that we've created in the heart of

Wisconsin.

So people who may not know, and I've told this story before, as a young boy, I worked in a pharmacy and I was about 14 years old and I worked in this Rexall pharmacy.

Elmer and Mater Deppman, two husband and wife Germans who ran a Rexall drugstore, and they made medication.

And I didn't know, you know, Eli Lilly and F. Domen were the major pharmaceutical companies that would send medication to...

our pharmacy, and I would check all that stuff in.

So I kind of, you know, knew a little bit about those pharmacies.

I didn't know the medication, but certainly I would check those things and do inventory and those kind of things.

But what I used to see them do was making medication.

And so my guest, Dr. Omar, is a compounder.

I didn't know what they were doing when they were doing that, but now I found this called compounding.

Dr. Omar.

Tell us about compounding.

All right, all right.

Well, I'll take you back, not five years or 15 years.

I'll take you back 6,000 years ago, where the Egyptians, the ancient Mesopotamians, the Chinese, these were the first compounders.

They were grinding herbs, mixing minerals, blending natural substances into formulas for the sick people.

And the first documented compounded medication actually appears in a Sanskrit text, the Sushruta Samhita, dating back to the six

century BC, 600 years before the Christ.

Someone was compounding a customized remedy for a patient for a specific need.

And that has never changed the principle, the idea that one size

does not fit all in medicine has been the foundation of pharmacy since the beginning and then fast forward 130 AD a Greek physician named Claudius Gallin you might know his name as the father of pharmacy he formalized the process

He's the one credited for developing systemic approaches to mixing multiple medications for individual patient's needs.

That was the Galenical Pharmacy.

Still referenced today because compounding is all about mixing things and then providing them in a different way for the patient to use because the one size fits all module of the commercially available drugs on the shelf doesn't fit all people.

So Dr. Omar, it's so is it safe to say that the creator of all of this heavens and the earth and the fullness thereof put here on this earth and in Plantform and others They the the opportunity to heal the human body He put it all here and so you talked about the herbs and those kind of things but

Many of these compounds come from the Earth.

Is it safe to say that?

It is safe to say that, and actually even the medications, they start from a plant.

They start from a DNA of an animal.

They start when we hear about peptides.

Peptides are all in the protein structure of the humans.

So it all starts from what we have.

God created a heal and a solution for every disease.

that we have it's just the secrets of the healing it's not just controlled by the FDA there are so many ways of healing people and compounding gives the option of trying other remedies still under the scrutiny and under the liability and inspected by the FDA but in a different trial it became just the one percent of

The medications that we make because your pharmacist doesn't have time to mix things up so

like things have started to change maybe 50 years ago before that 75% of medications were made in the lab but then the companies like Eli Lilly and Pfizer came and said you know what we're gonna make this blood pressure medication one size fits all for the 90%, 95%, 99% of people then we're gonna make this cholesterol medication we're going to make this XYZ medication and suddenly

it's all the medications in the market and only the 1% of prescriptions have to be compounded because we don't have a medication on the shelf that would work for those patients.

So we are still there as a compounding pharmacy, but what gives Willtopia a strength and a competitive edge and a source of strength is that we don't just offer the compounded medication, but we also offer the

regular prescriptions covered by the insurance and then we have the natural supplement that actually works.

Then we have the consultation and the guidance so we can have this blend of therapies work because people need to take things

exactly as it was tried before, so it would work.

So the guidance of patients is very important, Earl, and that's what sometimes gets to be missed when someone goes and needs a functional medicine prescriber or practitioner or whatever.

They throw on them so many remedies and treatments and like 15, 16 different things and patients are like, they spend a lot of money and they're overwhelmed and they try to take everything within one and two weeks and just doesn't work, doesn't fit.

They need guidance, we need coaching, we need step by step what to do.

And that's my goal in the functional medicine field, the informancy field, is to simplify the complex topics and prioritize health.

What can I do first to help my body to support myself?

Because the patient is the king of healthcare, we're all serving the purpose of healing the body and making you feel great.

You know, Dr. Omar, not just with me, but I think many as we age, we wind up with more than one doctor.

And so we may have three or four different doctors.

The doctors certainly mean well, none of us are saying,

that the doctors are leading us down the primrose path, what the doctors are doing is responding to their discipline and what they're treating you for.

And they can't see the whole picture because they're treating you, is it safe to say they're treating you for their discipline, what you came to them for, one issue that you're dealing with.

You've got all these, what, nine different systems, the more organs,

that kind of work independently, but then work all together to keep us moving and alive.

So there's a different doctor for each one of those kind of systems.

And so if you got three doctors prescribing three different medications, they don't know, they're not looking at what the other doctors are prescribing to you.

And so you've got these different mixes and that's kind of where,

a guy like Dr. Oma and is really someone who can really transform and change things because you can talk to those doctors.

See, I can't, the patient doesn't know any of those things.

Every pharmacist doesn't have the time or understanding and I don't know what percentage of pharmacists are.

Compounders, but every pharmacist is not a compounder.

So let's let's talk about Part of why what you do is so personalized

I'm glad that you mentioned that all right the best pharmacists who do medication reconciliation, which is

understanding and connecting the dots of the different therapies and remedies the patients are taking are the hospital pharmacists because they give us a call and they say okay I have this list of this list list of that I want to know what is this patient taking so I can combine these therapies because a patient went for a heart attack emergency room I went for something like major that now

we have to eminently kind of understand what these patients are taking.

And that's very ironic that this gets to be the place where we are understanding how these medications patients take and how these supplements that patient take and how everything is working together.

And that should be happening in the pharmacy where you have all of your medications.

The pharmacist is looking at the list of what you take and then

telling you if there's side effects, medications working against each other, the pharmacist should be kind of helping you as a judge of how to take your medicine.

And if something is contraindicating, they would communicate with your healthcare providers.

But is this happening actually in real life?

Do we have the time in order to go over all of these drug interactions?

Well, sometimes we do.

If we have everything in one pharmacy, if we have the time and the effort and the reimbursement for our time.

to dedicate to do that job.

We're going to do it perfectly.

But the system is strained and no one has that time.

The doctor is trying to give you a prescription quickly before he sees the new patient because he can't dedicate 5-10 minutes and then next patient, next patient wants to put the ICD-10 code that we treated this patient for high blood pressure today, for blood sugar tomorrow.

But how is the system working between this and that?

Honestly, there are still several doctors who try to connect to the dots, but that starts with listening to the patient to understand what is the patient actually suffering from.

It does not start by just lecturing patients on things that they don't comprehend or understand.

How many times patients started on a new medication,

and they have no idea what is this for, how to take it, how long should I be on it?

They didn't ask this question because, oh, I'm going to go home and ask Mr. Google or Mr. Shad GPT.

Well, okay, do that, but we need to validate that too much information and personalize it for you.

And that's why we have to kind of share more information as healthcare professionals and try to personalize it for this and that patient.

You know, Dr. Omar, it is...

Without question what you do and those who are like you you're not alone.

There's a network of found of compounders and and people who Like you who have private pharmacies private practices Who who aren't on that?

Unfortunate grind that you know corporate pharmacists are involved with it's not

or corporate doctors are not involved with.

And I, you know, again, I've been around a little while.

I remember having my own doctor and I could go see my doctor.

I can call him up and on a Wednesday and say, hey, hey, hey doctor, I'm not feeling well.

Ken, when can I get in to see?

Oh, Earl, let me see.

It's Wednesday, come in Friday.

And I'd come in his office and he'd sit with me and he'd talk with me 20 minutes or so.

And how's the family?

How's this?

How's that?

Those things have long since gone.

They're never coming back.

Because the doctor taking the time out with you as an individual patient who knew you, who knew your family and who was concerned about it.

He'd ask you how your family's doing, those things are never coming back.

And so the doctors that I have today, my primary doctor, nice guy, I enjoy seeing him once a year, or whatever it is, I don't know, maybe, might be two times, but it seems like only once a year.

And I see him and who are you?

You know, I was new provider.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So we talk, we talk for about five minutes.

I spend more time with the nurse who comes in and checks the blood pressure and those kinds of things.

That's questions.

He comes in, boom, five minutes, maybe 10 minutes.

He does a stethoscope thing and he looks in your eyes and then that's it.

That's not, that's not because that's what he wants to do.

That's the system that we are engaged in.

So it's why it's so important to have people like you who takes the time out, right?

I mean, you always use the verb as consultation.

That's exactly what you do.

Not just with me.

And we're

trying to make it simple and easy.

More than 50% of my effort is coaching my team how to talk to the customer, how to get the feedback, how to answer the question.

Because like you come to the pharmacy maybe more than twice a month and many times I don't see you, but I want that customer service representative, that pharmacist who I hire who talks to you to give you better service than me.

And for that,

I always say we have to work as a community to listen to each other.

As a healthcare community, we have to work on utilizing the information that we build over the years and always have hope.

into fixing the system by fixing ourselves and trying to kind of advocate for the rights of the hospitals, the doctors, the pharmacists to be treated better by the system so we can offer better service.

Now we have a lot of pharmacy deserts because of the weak reimbursement from dispensing medications, for instance, while at the same time we have the country putting resources in things that are...

maybe not important for us, maybe not helping to build the country.

So we have to all advocate for those services to be put into the system, into the healthcare community in order for us to thrive because I talk to my colleagues in Walgreens and CVS and different kind of other store, like not meaning a certain name of that.

of pharmacy, but man, they are strained.

They have so much pressure.

They cannot even breathe.

One pharmacist I talked to, and he was like, Omar, I'm dying here.

I have

to go.

He's dying because he has to make 1,000 prescriptions in one day.

And he has to make sure that this is correct.

This

is the right medication.

But there is no time to consult with the patient.

Do you know earlier that 50% of statins filled in the United States more than

50% they actually get to be never filled or 60% filled.

These medications are very important to keep the lipid profile low under control so patients don't get heart attacks.

More than 50% non-compliance we see with such an important medication.

And then patients go to the ER, patients have stroke and what happened?

Do you have this medication?

Yes, do you take it?

Well, sometimes I do.

This kind of education was basic and structural and it didn't happen when the patient started that important medication because we're focused on the quantity, not the quality of healthcare.

So there's many questions and they can be asked it early on when starting a new medication.

So the take away from this is when you start a new medication, please ask more questions.

Ask, how long am I going to be on this medication?

How shall I take it?

Is this affecting my arteries, my body, my brain?

Are there side effects?

Are there things that I can do to make this medication work better?

I want this to be a good experience, not to be a bad experience.

I'm starting this.

I'm getting old.

I'm getting sick.

We want to be optimistic for the therapies that we have because they're going to make our bodies better, healthier,

and last longer.

You know, Dr. Omura, you certainly practice what you preach because your staff is an extension of you without question.

I love.

going to Weltopia Pharmacy and always interacting with your staff.

They're such humble and communicable people.

And so you've done a great job of bringing all that together.

So let's go into...

You wanted to discuss today something called rectal rocket.

I

want to

ask the audience, have you ever, ever been sitting in a meeting on a plane at dinner with your family and just thought, I am in pain.

And I cannot say a single word about it.

Yes, I am.

That can happen and then the patient would try many things, creams, wipes, sit-spath and nothing is actually working.

And then they go to the doctor and then or the ER and they say you have hemorrhoids and they prescribe something and it's not working.

So the hemorrhoids is real and many people would suffer from it and that

problem is that people need to understand it because at compounding we do great solutions for this hemorrhoids and it's not a single product that would help it.

We custom make suppositories that have a very unique name to help with it and that's what I wanted to talk about and on a basic level I just want to say that hemorrhoids are veins like vascular cautions that exist naturally in the anal

canal where everyone has them and they only become a problem when they get enlarged, inflamed or irritated and when that happens they become what we clinically call sympathomatically as hemorrhoidal disease and there are two types external and internal.

External develop under the skin just outside the opening of the anus

visible, they are tender to touch, they are round, purplish in appearance and they can cause significant pain and itching especially during bowel movement.

Then there is also internal hemorrhoids which are further up inside the rectum and here's what's interesting, they are often not painful initially because the lining of the rectum has fewer pain receptors than externally and you may not even know you have them until they start to bleed and sometimes they prolapse.

They get pushed out through the anus, and that's when things get very uncomfortable.

So we have an awesome treatment for hemorrhoids, especially when they are very painful, and that treatment is called rectal rockets.

Rectal rockets.

So the nice thing about it is that

We can customize it to contain the medication, the steroid that helps with pain and enlargement and inflammation, but we also put a painkiller, something for the pain and the sensation of the pain like lidocaine.

But the nice thing is like it's inserted right before bedtime.

It fills the whole anal canal, sits there for six to eight hours.

and it dissolves and at the same time it would feed the tissue with the medication to help heal it, help with pain management and the treatment is just three days, three days and patients feel great after that and it's a great solution because the over-the-counter creams that are used don't go deep enough and the things that are paid by the insurance many times are not paid by the insurance

cost like sometimes more than $150 and they're not just they only have like a form of steroid but we can put other active ingredients and we customize it we talk to the provider and we ask them what's going on is it internal is it external and then we make it and then it's just a three days treatment and patients report back that they work

very well.

So when you're talking about hemorrhoids, there are times when hemorrhoids have to be removed.

There are times when they don't have to be removed.

But when you're talking about the treatment that you are talking about, are you talking about hemorrhoids that don't have to be removed?

Or can you heal hemorrhoids without them being removed?

That's a great question.

So many times it's after they are removed.

And we are at the time that they are very tender and bowel movement is like a nightmare.

So that's actually when we do those treatments that they help the best.

after the surgery and we need something to just be able to go to the bathroom.

So patients would have bowel movement first, then gently cleanse the area, insert the rectal rocket ideally at bedtime and then night after night after night it makes healing faster and better because at that time when after the the hemorrhoid surgery it's just very painful to go to the bathroom.

So we have like a full program of

eating things that are rich in fiber and making sure that we are cleaning the area very well and insert it after the bowel movement.

So yes, if it surgically needs to be removed, we can use it after the removal of the hemorrhoids when it's tender.

And if the doctor tells you just take something over the counter or deal with the pain now, it doesn't need to be removed.

that's when it shines.

That's when we tell the doctor, you know what, we have something that can help heal it now, help with that inflammation now.

And it would be great also if we pair this with other anti-inflammatory products that we have, we help patients with changing their eating habits to kind of, is there a constipation that makes this worse?

Is there problems with sleep that makes this worse?

So we try to work on different facets.

But the nice thing about compounding is a patient

doctor and the pharmacist we work together and very dynamically and compounding pharmacists are usually working hand-in-hand with doctors to help those patients.

We have people in the field educating doctors and practitioners.

On a weekly basis I meet with doctors in their offices by Zoom to educate them about what's out there to use.

So it's a very dynamic thing but I need the patient who's seeking

seeking help and seeking kind of, you know, I need a different way of feeling like I am important.

I talk to my doctor about my pain and no one cares.

This is when we try to kind of, you know, help them and help ourselves to feel useful because I am here to help my patient.

If I am not helping my patient, I just like doesn't make sense.

We need something more, more valuable in life to do, you know.

You know, Dr. Omar, we're talking about hemorrhoids and hemorrhoids.

I guess, is it safe to say that the longer we are here on this planet, the more likely it is that we're going to have hemorrhoids?

Or do hemorrhoids I know from sitting on hard things, hard benches, hard kinds of other things you can develop hemorrhoids?

Is it safe to say we all have

hemorrhoids?

Yeah, it's actually hemorrhoids.

usually gets worse the longer that we live.

A sympathetic haemorrhoids are thought to affect at least 50% of the US population at some point during their lives.

50% 50 with around 5% of the population affected at any given time.

Estimation of 10.4 million Americans currently suffer from haemorrhoids with 1 million new cases occurring every year.

I have doctors that come to me and tell me, give me the formula.

I'm going to travel to my home country.

I need something to help with hemorrhoids.

It's a global problem.

So about half of all people will have hemorrhoids by the age 50.

If you suffer from hemorrhoids or one of your beloved ones suffered from hemorrhoids, please communicate with Utopia Pharmacy.

Text to Utopia Pharmacy and say, hemorrhoids problem, what to do?

We will communicate with you.

and your doctor and we will help with a prescription to help with that because it's not just the reactor rocket that I do for it.

Some patients have external hemorrhoids so I don't need to put something that goes deep into the rectum.

We use it topically.

Patient would use it topically after they go to the bathroom and they would use it to help with this painful sensation and then we put things to help with nerve pain with inflammatory

inflammatory effects that they have and just kind of within few days they are feeling much better.

So the customization of medications is very important and the big pharma drugs are not going to step into these kind of specialized treatments because it doesn't make them money.

But it makes the small pharmacy like myself thrive because we thrive on research and working with patients and clients.

We're fascinated with science, fascinated with helping patients.

And that's why compounding pharmacies are a strong compartment of every community.

You know, Dr. Omar, it is conversation about hemorrhoids is an embarrassing to people and people.

don't want to talk about hemorrhoids because they think it's, you know, clearly it's a personal issue, but they feel embarrassed talking about it.

So is it safe to say that it is something that people should not be embarrassed about, but certainly we're not going to be, you know, when we sit down with people we love and others talking about hemorrhoids, but the truth of the matter is,

It is something that we've got to look at and figure out how to best, you know, handle what is almost an inevitable reality, right?

So actually, the stats

are overwhelming.

Over 50% of respondents in surveys avoided seeking treatment for hemorrhoids due to embarrassment alone.

Right.

And in peer-reviewed study, among patients who never sought medical advice, the reason was embarrassment at 60%, 60%.

So it's, yeah, it's people shouldn't be embarrassed from talking about the bathroom problems.

They did a study once and they found that the biggest, the best invention for humanity was the bathroom, the toilet stool.

People are able to go to the bathroom in an easy way.

That was the most important invention for humanity.

So.

To be embarrassed from talking about that is kind of making people not tell the doctors and practitioners what they really suffer from So I recommend to any patient you go to the doctor always write in a note or on your phone, right?

What's my top health concerns today and just write them down if you go to the doctor to check your blood pressure take

your blood pressure reading for a whole week, morning and night, using an arm cuff before you go to the doctor.

We want this meeting with the doctor to be very proactive from the patient's side.

So you have the data for the doctor and the conversation is going to be efficient.

So the time that they allocate to talk to you is helpful to you.

And then when you pick up something from the pharmacy and the pharmacist asks you, do you have any question about your medication?

Train yourself to say yes, I have a question and find the question and ask it.

Because you ask this question now, it's my duty to answer you.

And I'm going to be feeling better about my job.

I am useful.

I am answering questions.

You know, Dr. I will say on this hemorrhoid conversation, is it more likely that men are more apt?

to have hemorrhoids than women or because, you know, and does women having children have any impact on with hemorrhoids and those kind of things?

That's actually a

very good questions.

And the answer is generally surprising.

It's not men only.

The prevalence of hemorrhoids is not significantly affected by gender.

Both sexes essentially equal, affected overall.

But there is also a problem with hemorrhoids that can happen after delivering of the baby.

And women actually get them more.

In an international survey, women were slightly over-represented in the hemorrhoid population, 56% versus 44% of men, and 81% of affected women had a history of pregnancy.

It's affecting all the population.

Also, we are seeing it more now in the younger generations, especially now that we see the over-processed food and the bad-eating habits that we see, the overabundance of less proteins and more bad calories, severe constipation of the younger generations.

So, I mean, it's affecting everyone.

You know, Dr. Ma, I just...

Again, the more I talk to you, the more questions pop up in my mind.

Because, and just for the sake of our conversation, I wanna make sure that people understand that I am certainly one who has followed the advice of you and it's changed my life, it's certainly transformed.

my life in a way that I probably would have never even thought of.

For people who may just be hearing you for the first time and what really has transformed my health and those kind of things are these things that you have called supplements.

But you don't just do supplements, it's always,

never once have I not heard you mention diet.

Okay, whatever it is that you're talking about supplements, I don't care what it is, you're always talking about sleep, eating healthy.

Those things go hand in hand with whatever it is you're offering.

Is it safe to say that?

For

sure, it all starts with a healthy diet because food is the medicine of every day.

but the medicine is something that you take for a short period of time or at certain times through the day but what you eat is very important and so cleaning the food and getting more less ingredients in what you eat breakfast lunch dinner refining that is going to always be the key to better health that's the medicine that's a true medicine that has been in the

in books that has been in history that has been like our creation.

So we need to clean our plate.

That will be where we start.

Welcome back to what's going on with Earl Ingram.

And I am again always thrilled to have my guest and good friend, Dr. Omar the pharmacist.

He is the proprietor.

of, well, Topia Pharmacy, the founder, and he's located in Mechwan, Thamesville, and here in Wisconsin.

But if people want to get in touch with you across the state, across the nation, Dr. Oma, how do they do that?

We can always call or text 262-429-9429 or go to www.wiltopiarx.com or visit us at 136 North Main Street, Thamesville.

the heart of McQueen, Thinsville, Wisconsin.

Let me ask you, Dr. Moore, because you are forever seeking out different ways to make sure that your patients get the latest information on health and all of those things.

You're always traveling all over the place.

This is not something that is done solely by Dr. Omar.

You go to these different conventions where they're both doctors, pharmacists, and all of those kinds of people, all working together, collectively, new medications that are being created and all those kind of things.

Why do you do those things?

Because Wisconsinite, Wisconsin community, deserves the best.

the best is not always where you are so you have to travel to seek that knowledge and bring it back and what I love about our show that gives me the opportunity to talk right away about what I learned so I don't forget it so you know you learn from the best to tell people here because the abundance of knowledge is great but there is just too much information and we want to take what's applicable what we can use

and that's always my goal and we have told many providers in Wisconsin for instance over the years about a great treatment called low dose naltrexone LDN.

We've helped thousands and thousands of patients to get this beautiful treatment.

by just educating the providers and I learned that from traveling, from going around and learning what this medication is used for.

It's just an example of how we can help each other and I want to tell you earlier that half of my over-the-counter

product section, even the professional grade supplements came because a patient stopped by and said, I used this product and it helped me.

So I called the company and I tell them, hey, I heard about this product.

Let me know about it.

I want to carry it in my store.

So they sent me the representative, it came me about the product.

I see that it fits with the protocols I have embedded in the pharmacy frame structure.

So that's how we support each other.

That's how we get to be better community.

You

know, I'll say this.

I talk with others about this wonderful relationship that I have with you.

And so I always share it with people.

I run across people who are really sometimes Dr. Omar, just wonderful people.

but they're not feeling their best.

They're really going through some really difficult times.

They have doctors, but things are not going well for them.

And so I'm concerned about their health.

And so I always tell them about this guy, right?

This guy who, you know, I met and has changed my life and you have never once said no.

You're a very busy man.

I have to say this in all honesty, sir.

You take the time out as busy as you are to talk with...

Some people that I love and and who are struggling in their lives and and you've never said no and you've and you've continued to personalize Relationships with all these different people.

Dr. Ma, how do you do it?

Thank

you.

Thank you.

I truly appreciate that you say that but I want to honestly say that I do this because I try to work with great

people and in my team at Wiltopia I have wonderful, wonderful pharmacists and technicians and assistants and interns.

We're hiring for the next best customer service representative at Wiltopia.

If you're interested or you know someone interested and they have great customer service abilities, please send them.

our way.

We're always hiring for great people, but I work with a team that understand the fact that talking to

Patience is important, talking to customers and understanding their pains and funneling the correct information so we can help them is key.

So it's just a message and a legacy that we try to build at Wiltopia.

And I think we're on the right path.

This is year number nine, Earl, and we're preparing for the next phase of Wiltopia after 10 years, what we will do.

And it's our goal to have a strong community in Wisconsin.

So does it ever amaze you?

when you hear from people who call you, who are talking with their doctors, they're seeing their doctors, and they've got these serious ailments and serious issues, tremendously high blood pressure and all sorts of things, and yet they've talked to their doctor, and they're not getting the remedy for those, does that ever surprise you?

It surprises me that it doesn't surprise me anymore because we see we can see the pains of Practitioners and doctors not having the time to listen to the whole story from the patient side and that's why in my consultations I Do like a summary of the meeting and I send I communicate with those providers to tell them I think this patient needs one two three because of one two three and we follow up with the with the Doctors and then we ask the patient to advocate for themselves and we want to be practical we want to have

takeaways.

We want the patient to get better.

So focusing on the positive always help us to find the solutions early and just kind of communicating with those providers, visiting them.

I want to tell you like every time I have a new compound, we have our marketing team reach out to the doctor, tell them thank you for your help.

If we can have a moment to talk to you, discuss with you more of what we can offer.

So it's an ongoing thing that we have to do and it's just

We're going to always grow older and we want more support in our lives to live healthier.

So we're realistic about that fact, but it's a collaborative effort between all of us.

You know, Dr. Amara, the last thing I'm going to say is yesterday I spent a couple of hours at the gym, right?

And today they say it's going to be about 60-some-odd degrees in Milwaukee.

So when I leave here, I'm going to attend my walk.

Before meeting you, I couldn't have done those things, right?

I'm just telling the truth.

Two hours, that's great.

That's very awesome.

Well, yeah, but the 10 miles that I'm gonna walk today, I'm looking forward to it, right?

And people say, well, come on, you're not walking 10 miles, you're 71 years old, you're not there.

Oh yeah, I am, man.

I am, and I'm doing it with ease.

And a lot of it is because I'm taking the right supplements.

I'll say this.

The last thing that I want to say, supplements are an investment.

We invest in new cars.

We invest in fine clothing.

We invest in jewelry.

We invest in all sorts of things, Dr. Omar.

And the best food.

It all costs money.

But I can't think of an investment that I've made that has been more important to me in the recent, in my life, than the supplements that I take from you.

And... Well, I'm not just saying this.

It's the absolute truth.

the supplements that I take, I feel my strength.

I used to think, people look at me and they'll say, hey, man, you can't be 71 years old, soon to be 72 years old.

So yeah, I am.

They say, so what am I supposed to be bent over?

Am I supposed to be, you know, stumbling and bumbling?

Is that, we can't accept that that's the way

we should be as we age.

We can age healthily.

Is it safe to say that, Dr. Oma?

Yeah, the phase of life that you're in is the phase of guidance and mentorship and you do a lot of this to the younger ages You have to be strong.

You have your brain has to be perfect You need to be able to teach us what you learned through the years These are I believe the golden the golden years that you have because you're giving us so much in terms of the teaching experience So it is safe to say that

you always should have strong body, strong brain, strong heart because we need the seniors in our community and taking care of the seniors and their ability to take care of themselves makes a very strong community.

We have to look at the blue zones where people live healthier longer.

the blue zones in Okinawa, in Japan, there is one in Italy, I think in Sardinia, there is one in Los Angeles, I think in somewhere on the west coast, but these

Communities are very strong.

They are talking to each other.

The seniors are healthy going out.

They are playing sports.

They keep their minds.

And the younger generations are not on the iPad every day.

They are out and about.

So we have to learn and understand that being healthy is not confined to an age.

But we have to be realistic about the phase of life.

Now I need my blood pressure needs control.

It's okay to take medication.

It's okay to take a supplement.

It's okay to sleep longer.

I am at the phase of my life of productivity.

It's okay to work longer.

So identifying these phases and working with the correct healthcare professionals is going to get us somewhere.

Dr. Omar, how can

people get in touch

with you?

Call me at 262-429-9429.

or visit my store in Thinsville, Wisconsin, or go to willtopiarx.com.

That's a wrap for this section, this session with Dr. Omar DeFarmacist and what's going on with Earl Ingram.

Dr. Omar, see you later.

See you later, Earl.

Take care.

All right.