Police Incident

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Police Incident

Truth in The Morning · Thu Oct 15, 2026

Great morning, Truth Nation.

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We're broadcasting live from the American Family Insurance Studio in the heart of downtown at the Avenue.

I'm the legendary Homer Blow along with my girl.

Bailey Coleman.

How you doing and feeling

this morning?

I am wonderful this morning, Homer.

How are you?

I'm great,

but, you know, yeah.

OK.

All right.

So a few things that I want to mention.

I'd have to say that last night or yesterday.

Yeah, last night slash evening slash night.

I had to do a early setup.

OK.

Shout out to the city of Milwaukee and Department of.

community wellness and safety office of community wellness and safety.

They're having their two day conference.

And it's set up had was yesterday.

Okay,

you know, vendors and setting up the the location on 25th and capital.

And so, you know, got over there, you know, be able to have to do waited for some of my other brothers that are also

setup and doing AV stuff for the conference and so you know I was there for a long time right and you know I mean my setup was you know smooth simple but you know you got to make sure that everything else it all aligns together so some people took the setup time and they chose to come a lot later so but I was there when it was time you know and so

In in saying that and doing that I I was there much later in the evening So around I want to say maybe 8 30 a little after 8 30, you know, I was Driving and I was gonna go straight home.

Mm-hmm, but I Saw Michelle Bryant's video from yesterday from say something real

and she talked about how she had left her briefcase which had inside of it her laptop with everything on it and she has you know how they you had a fifth wheel the spare wheel right so she had sat the briefcase on top of there right in front of the station right and she got in forgot to grab it

And started going up to up to 76 and capital

Mm-hmm

Before she realized that she had left the briefcase on the fifth wheel Kit and now she's looking and trying to see if anybody may have seen her briefcase and to turn it in Of course, you know, you can find her right there at W and ov located at 20.

Oh three West capital Drive

And or, you know, if you happen to see it, you know, somebody may have, you know, looked at it.

Oh, I don't need this and may have thrown it out, whatever the case.

But, you know, with her laptop, that as she continued to say in that live that she done, like, it got everything.

So you can only pray that a good Samaritan may have found it and will actually be like, oh, OK.

What was she at?

What?

Where?

20th in capital.

All my life I had to think.

I'm not going to raise my capital.

But I am going to say the sinister laugh that you're doing off here.

No, turn your mic on.

Let him hear the sinister laugh.

I'll move my mic over there so they can hear your sinister laugh.

Uh, but yeah, so.

So, um, where, you know, it's going to be on 25th and capital, right?

Where,

where I was at.

So when leaving, I ended up driving down capital, like towards.

Did you find it?

No.

It's the E for effort.

So my thing is knowing that it was her route that she ended up taking I was I'm looking like, you know, somebody may have discarded it in some grass or tall grass or, you know, in an alleyway.

So going down and then getting to heading to 20th.

And I'm like, OK, you know, I'll come back around and I was like going to drive because, you know, you you never know.

You never know.

So I wanted to try to see.

If I could end up, you know, assisting somehow and be like, wow, that could be it right there where somebody may have grabbed me.

Maybe it would have been empty and maybe it would have been empty, but I just wanted to do my part to check that out.

So in doing that, I got to Tonya in capital and there was a dark colored SUV that was just speeding.

and almost side swipe

me.

So

I tell people like when you see reckless drivers like that, even if you're not going down a street, just go ahead and make a left or go ahead and make a right.

So I went and started going down to Tonya, like towards Roosevelt.

This speeding vehicle ended up, you know, turning two.

And again, almost side swipe me and then almost side swipe another vehicle that was in front of me.

And there were two men that were walking and this fool, whoever you are, hit one of them.

Because

he was going so

fast.

And I mean, you know, his body hit, you know,

it hit

him.

Yeah.

And I was, you know, and I'm, so I'm watching this.

I'm like, did he just hit this man?

And so I pulled over and said like, Hey.

Are you okay?

He just hit you.

So I stayed on the scene as well as the vehicle that was in front of me.

I stayed on the scene all of a sudden.

I heard the EMT and fire truck coming and then I saw MPD pull up after the fire department was there and the EMTs were there to assess his situation.

And he didn't want to go to the hospital.

He was laying down for a while and the person that was with him and a couple of other people that pulled over and saw it.

So I ended up just having to try to absorb that moment of what I was just caught up in the middle of.

And the speed that he was using, like I say, it wouldn't have just been a side swipe.

It would have made me go out of control

because he was

going that fast.

And so law enforcement came and after the EMT and the fire department left, because he refused medical treatment, and he was like, no, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good.

And law enforcement were talking to him and I pulled, because I moved across the street, so as I heard them coming.

But I sat there, I did not lead a scene.

Then I ended up pulling over, letting them know, like, look, I saw this.

I couldn't say, oh, it was a black because it was a dark.

So, you know, but it was a dark colored SUV that and, you know, he was going so fast or she was going so fast because I don't know who was driving it.

I couldn't get a license plate because he was going that fast.

And then again, almost hitting me.

I don't like, you know, my thought process was what

was his license

plate?

You know what I'm saying?

If I

had been in a situation where.

he wasn't driving or she wasn't driving erratically and wild like they were.

But I did just give law enforcement the information that I could do and of course gave them my information the whole nine.

But yeah, that that was a help.

I was a part of my evening that I was not expecting to

be a part of.

Yeah.

In trying to help out my friend and my sister, Michelle Bryant,

you know

what I'm saying?

Because

I'm like.

All eyes, you know can never be enough eyes,

you

know So I just wanted to try to you know go the path that she was saying that you know,

she had been she

had drove

Yeah,

and got to 76 in capital before realizing

like

oh Where is my did I leave it?

You know what

I mean?

Yeah, I think we've all had those moments where we left something Precious to us most of the time it's

coffee like for you it would have been coffee you'd have left your coffee

on top of your vehicle and be like, oh my goodness.

I have left my car.

I have done that.

Yeah.

I have done that.

Yeah.

So

yeah, I actually did it at one of our events.

But we did the family.

Really?

At the Truth Family Festival?

Well, you think I had, you didn't notice I left?

Yes, I did.

I left because I needed, I was like, ain't no coffee around here?

Oh, you know how long we got till we go?

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Hold on.

We got to find McDonald's up in here.

We got to go get us some coffee.

Yeah.

Now we had to do all those interviews and stuff.

No way.

There was no way in the world.

No one in the world.

No way in the world.

I got

no way that I was flying solo Dolo on the coffee thing.

Okay.

But yeah.

So but I also say that to say for anybody else in Truth Nation.

If you do.

happen to see a briefcase that may have Maybe anywhere between 20th and capital up to 76 in capital,

please No, remember I said

the fifth wheel, you know how you have that fifth wheel kit and you sit it down so she sat the briefcase on that and

for whatever she may have gotten the phone call

and got

distracted or whatnot.

And then ended up, you know, getting in the vehicle.

Okay.

And so yeah, so that's that's that's what I'm taking it that it had to be.

But you know, she left it on that fifth wheel.

Okay.

So if anybody in Truth Nation, if you did see a discarded briefcase or

One that may look like I don't know traffic may have ran over.

You know, I don't know but I just wanted to just know that I put my eyes out.

Yeah, absolutely.

So yeah,

that was nice.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You're a great

guy.

Thank you.

You know, but you wanted to say where again?

Bailey.

Bailey.

Yeah.

Bad Bailey.

Yeah.

Tracy Hayes.

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Mm hmm.

Yeah, that part that part.

So yeah, but you know, you are here in the city and you

Drive or you may live, you know, you never know.

Yeah.

I mean, you got to go for it.

You know what I'm saying?

That's

all she could do.

Absolutely.

You know,

and like I have an event that I'll be going to after today's show for again, that I was setting up for

yesterday.

Right.

Right.

Right.

And, you know, I'm not going to leave my laptop in the vehicle.

You never know.

Right.

You

know what I'm saying?

Right.

Yeah.

Well, and it ain't even the forget thing for me.

It's

What if this is the, you know, never had my vehicle broken into, but what if today would have been the day,

right?

Then you go out there to this parking structure night.

Oh,

yeah.

So yeah, I

got my

bag.

My keys or something is, you know, I need to get one of those things where you can whistle or locate my keys, locate my keys because you know what, I'm bad for that.

I'm good for that one.

Okay.

Yeah.

Oh, sure.

Yeah.

So now before we get ready to take care of bills, we got to let people know that we have an interview coming up at 830 a.m.

Central Standard Time that you're not going to want to miss because we've been talking about so many different things going on in MPS,

right?

Yes.

We talked about the fake substitute teacher.

And we would let you, oh yeah, go ahead.

I've been good all week.

I've been good all

week.

You know what?

Let him know who our guest will be at 830 AM.

Dr. Brenda Casselius.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

So we'll get to that.

Chief Wingding of NPS.

So y'all got something?

Y'all know we don't talk about it.

We gonna talk about it this morning.

Yep.

Absolutely.

So that comes up at 8 30 a.m.

Yeah.

So make sure you're listening.

Yeah.

So you hear me talking about it.

You're

really talking about it leading all the way

up

until that.

But right now how our producer

complain if you don't if you don't listen in

there.

Right now our producer is like, yeah, I'm gonna go to them right.

It's

supposed to be at 7 12.

Yeah.

It's 7 14.

Our bad.

But we said 15.

So we're about to take care of these bills because

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Let's

again.

We've been doing good all this week.

You baited me.

I baited you.

I told the truth.

So moving on.

Right.

The truth you baited me moving on.

You know, I had my first cup of coffee in the morning.

Y'all see how he do me, right?

Y'all see what it is.

You know,

move on.

Next topic.

Yeah.

Well,

I'm saying if you.

No.

Okay.

Y'all get ready.

We got Dr. Brenda Castelius on with us.

8 30 a.m.

Make sure you're right here.

You don't want this is one you don't want to miss.

Absolutely.

Mm hmm.

So.

Again, Bailey charges for two of the three that were originally arrested from the video that is gone.

I saw that.

I saw your text on it.

Mm hmm.

The

the the the receipts are starting to unfold.

Yeah.

So but I don't understand.

If this was a riot, why didn't they say that from the beginning?

And this was some kind of like ambush.

Why they didn't say that from the beginning?

Why wouldn't they say that?

I'm talking about the police.

If this was an ambush, they could have brought all of their cars because you know what?

When there's one person, maybe having 20 cars down the street.

It's like, wow, what's going on there?

And you see one lowly person that they probably let go later, right?

You see one lowly person with their little hands and then they down on the ground like they in prayer meeting.

You know, I'm I'm looking forward to

and wait a minute.

OK.

OK, I saw that the girl

and the guy and the guy.

But the girl that was

Kennedy Gray.

Allegedly driving the car

correct

Supposedly now Kicked one of the police officers in the

head correct

Okay, I just want to know how that unfolded I Mean, what was going on there?

I said it was belligerent

right?

How you get a cop how you get a cop where you can in a position where you can kick them in the head

That part unfortunately is not hard to understand because But here's where I was going first because I think that this will put Where I'm going with this in context.

Okay.

This is why the body cam footage is going to be so important,

right?

So everybody understands the background on this we are discussing the footage that came out initially just about

the young man.

Mm hmm.

It was 30 seconds in the cops.

They say

this beam, I believe.

Yeah.

And they say the cops were going overboard on, you know,

from what

we saw.

We saw that 30 seconds.

Right.

Right.

Like that.

That's excessive.

Right.

Like it was excessive force, right by the police officers.

That 30 second video that's been out and been circulating on social media and that you've seen.

on the different television stations

and all over

and all over.

I mean, we played it.

We played the footage yesterday,

right?

So we're talking about that.

And the young lady that we were just discussing was one of the people that was in the car.

She was actually supposedly the driver of the car.

Yeah, Kennedy Gray.

Yeah.

So was that her baby in the backseat?

And

that's what we do.

We speed around or something with our kid in the car

and and the okay, so all the three names that we have

okay,

and and again, I'll go back to explaining why the body cam footage is going to be Crucial

in the

situation

it is

but Kennedy M. Gray is the woman one of the women that is charged and she is also

charged with the fact that she Allegedly kicked an officer in the head if we look at and I'm thinking that in that video that we saw when we saw a Person being dragged,

right?

You don't know saying so.

I don't know if that was her

I'm not sure but the other woman that was in the vehicle her name is Jada

Barry.

OK,

all of these.

All of this has been made public in the actual news stories on Fox six,

where

CBS 58.

And that's why, you know, we are now privy to the names.

OK, they

had not yet said they had charged the Jada Barry.

OK,

young lady, but they did, you know, release her name.

OK, so

Kennedy M. Gray is charged and the Nicholas Beeman have both been charged.

So.

Whether charges are pending against the third person, which was a woman jade of berry Not sure but they put her name out there.

Okay.

So but so there were two women in the car and one guy

correct and An alleged one-year-old baby

Okay, okay.

So but so where I'm going with my thought process and truth nation we want to hear from you is that We should hear

the belligerent conversation on the body cam

right

so if they Immediately kind of turn hostile to being

stopped.

There should be more than one body cam.

Oh, yeah,

absolutely officers involved We should be able to see that and I think that that is going to hold the critical piece and information for the community to be able to And I think this is one of the things that

that bothers me about some people in our community.

Uh huh.

If it does prove to be exactly the way law enforcement said that it happened and it went down and this happened and that happened, the community retractions don't come.

They, it seems like some people still, but they still shouldn't even though officer was kicked in the head allegedly by Kennedy M. Gray.

You, you got what I'm saying?

So it's like,

If you find out that the receipts do prove that it happened the way that they said it happened.

Oh, you still get more anger and frustration as opposed to people just being self accountable for themselves.

You know what?

I got that one wrong.

OK, I see why now because it was another video years ago where I believe they had.

It was at the zoo or something like that where the kids weren't supposed to be out

there.

Okay,

and Some it went out there.

I guess to go try to fight and it climbed a fence or something and Then when law enforcement was trying to stop them They got belligerent and we're fighting the officers and the community was like, you know, they saw the video like oh see they wrong they wrong they wrong and

everything that the law enforcement say happened.

They had body cam footage and everything

that

showed everything that happened.

But it was still some people that were like, but they still didn't have to be like, listen, listen, you know, you're gonna

learn.

I mean, there are certainly better ways to have conversations with police officers so that you don't end up in some type.

Sherwin

Hughes talks about it all the time.

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We got to get ready to take care of some bills and you know maybe Sherwin can pop in.

You know I know you're here Sherwin.

Sherwin.

If you can pop in man because

he lays down.

He's coming down here because you asked him to.

Well you ask him.

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Maybe we can get it saved here to ask

him.

Oh, that'll be a no.

Bailey!

What?

We'll

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And guess what?

What Bailey said I couldn't do.

I say you could do

what you say.

I said it was less likely.

You know how sure we do sometimes he'd be like.

Yeah.

I don't know if he's in the right mood.

He'll come down here.

Well guess what

he was in the right mood today.

We are.

Pleased and honored to have our brother.

Sherwin, though, you know what?

I love you so much.

I want to see your bonnet, though.

I want to see your bonnet.

Sherwin Hughes

That's after midnight.

That's late at

night.

I heard you.

That's a lie.

That's a lie.

Sherwin.

Sherwin.

You say you always have them with you.

Sherwin Hughes

Sherwin.

Sometimes when Al calls,

you

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just he puts me in bonnet mode and

I just.

The only

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way my brain can comprehend what Al says

is if

Sherwin Hughes

I'm boning it

up.

Oh, well, if the bull sugar honey ice tape.

OK.

From a roller set.

OK,

Sherwin Hughes

that part.

Y'all know I have a whole three hour show I have to prepare for.

It's not like.

I'd love to come down and hang out with you.

But I got a ride for three hours.

I got

a gas.

We're playing up.

Sherwin Hughes

Got to check my

engine to change the oil.

Yeah.

But then, okay, so, you know, I'm allergic to ENCs, right?

Excuses and complaints.

Sherwin Hughes

Those are legitimate.

No, no, no.

Hold on.

Hold on.

I'm about to let you know how.

He

said he got

to do something.

Illegitimate that is.

But I

got, I know.

I understand.

He got to

do something.

No, no, no, I'm getting ready to show you how illegitimate that is, right?

Okay.

All right.

So here he goes talking about the three hour, you know, show, right?

Right.

And he does.

And he does a damn great job.

And then he hangs on to the lunch break, which also puts another hour, hour and a half on to your schedule.

So you're

kicking it with them, but you can't come now.

So

what happened?

But he's here.

All right.

So we're gonna

not be as

Sherwin Hughes

hostile when I do the lunch break, which was one time my show is over.

I don't have anything else to do that day.

I didn't have meetings.

Oh, it's not

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like I had to prepare

for another.

So he had a meeting before he comes down here for us.

Sherwin Hughes

I got you.

I think nitty needed me.

Sure one.

I need you to stay for a little while.

I need you.

That's a good one.

That's that's good.

That's good.

All right, but don't go

anywhere.

That's

that was a good one, too, baby.

That was good.

I like

doing it, too.

Yeah.

Shout out to Ray

and maybe Shannon.

So Sherwin, one of the reasons that we wanted to ask your appearance.

I know I wanted to ask you to come with this situation that you saw the video where the what appears to be excessive punches and things for that.

uh to the Nicholas Beeman that we know his name now um but the law enforcement are saying that they were belligerent when they pulled them over and the driver Kennedy M. Gray who has now been charged um I got the receipts for that and it says that she also sometime during that kicked the officer in the head

And we do see in the video someone being dragged and it has to be a woman because they said it was three People in the car a fourth was supposed to be a baby a one-year-old baby or something like that That was in the black seat with the Nicholas Beeman Yeah, I saw that was being

right

They say these are tactics that are

The strikes, you know, they're taught that at the police academy

Sherwin Hughes

controlled strikes.

Yeah, there you go.

I don't know

so

I just want to say that female cop that didn't look like no control strike that looked like some pent up aggression She was mad at baby daddy and something she was letting it go right there.

This is a great opportunity

So, uh, when it comes to being pulled over, you have been doing, and I think you even talked about, uh, turning it, turning it into a segment that you do, uh, maybe once a week or whatever about, you know, like what not to do or, you know, what your rights are, uh, how to deal with it.

If you do feel like your rights are being violated, like, you know what, when you go to court or whatever the case may be, the things that you should say, um, and all of those things.

So.

How they're saying that they were belligerent from the beginning when they pulled them over and if that is true give your Truth and your research on things that you should and shouldn't do the do's and don'ts

Well

interaction with law enforcement.

Let me just say this he's about to get into this but as parents Because I saw somebody's mom involved in the press conference

But as parents when your kids start driving and getting out from under your Watchful eye so to speak You're supposed to have that conversation with them I don't I don't I don't know I

had

the conversation with mine numerous times Because I'm like you getting to be a young man you going out here you're driving around

And this is how it rolls.

And this is what you should be doing.

And anything less, you're not going to be coming home.

Right.

So Sherwin, with all of that, please enlighten our listeners on truth in the morning of some of the do's and don'ts when you have interaction with law enforcement.

Sherwin Hughes

It is highly situational.

So are you being pulled over?

Because you were speeding

and

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being pulled over for some other moving violation or are you a homicide suspect?

So there's going to be a different approach by law enforcement based upon the information that they have in the probable cause that they have to pull you over in the first place But the best rule of thumb and it's like an exhaustive list like once a year I'll do almost an entire show on Exactly what you are supposed to do when you get pulled over like step-by-step because there's things that the officers are absolutely looking for

That's why they take so long when they pull you over.

They make you sit there.

They're actually watching you and running your plates.

Right.

So that is what they're doing.

But they're also wondering, are we moving?

Are we fidgeting?

Are people switching from the driver's seat to the passenger seat?

Are you reaching underneath your seat?

You stay still.

Yep.

Sherwin Hughes

Okay.

The best rule of thumb is you want that interaction to be over as quickly as possible.

You don't want to argue.

You don't want to prolong it because the longer you prolong it and the higher the likelihood that officer gets uncomfortable, then things can escalate.

I think what we don't get is that we absolutely have rights.

Yes, we do.

But our rights come later in that moment.

The police officer has authority in that moment.

Your rights are not going to usurp the police officers authority.

You have your driver's license and yes, ladies and gentlemen, you have to have your driver's license if you're operating a motor vehicle in the state of Wisconsin and you have to show it.

If not, that's the violation as well.

They're going to ask you if everything is current.

If it is not, you can get it to your address and all that has to be current.

Maybe they ask you for proof of insurance.

Maybe they don't.

You have to have that too.

So what happens is.

We may not have our license or we can't find our insurance paperwork.

Now we want to yell the cop.

Right.

Sherwin Hughes

Why are you doing this to me?

Is this because I'm black?

No knucklehead.

It's because it's the actual state law.

Another thing that we do.

I got to yell on myself that you have to register your vehicle.

That part.

Hello.

Sherwin Hughes

Because when you get pulled over for not having a registered and here's the thing when you get pulled over for not having your vehicle registered

because

Sherwin Hughes

your sticker says 1962 on you

You're

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gonna call the cop races and you're the one that didn't pay the registration fee like the rest of us But we'll say this cop is racist.

They pulled me over

Well, why'd they pull you over?

OK, I was smoking a blunt.

My windows

would turn in my life.

But that ain't the point.

Sure.

Sure.

When you on

Sherwin Hughes

they side, but you want the interactions to be over as quickly as possible.

Yes.

Sherwin Hughes

Try to be compliant.

I know you probably didn't do it.

You're probably innocent, but you're not going to plead your case right there.

And a lot of times here's what you'll find.

That officer will be like, you know what?

You seem like a decent enough person.

You didn't cause me any stress.

go on about your day, next time slow

down, next time

Sherwin Hughes

use your signal.

But with us, not all of us, but some of us, some people don't listen.

What I found is that when you don't listen, are you being told what to do by authority?

Look at the parents of those people, right?

The mamas don't listen either.

And the daddies don't listen.

So guess what?

The kids

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also.

Do not listen.

And

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if these kids, because a lot of times they beat up their moms and their daddies, they jump on their moms and their daddies.

Right.

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So if you'll jump on that original authority figure in your life, you're going to talk mess to a cop, to the sheriff's deputy, et cetera, et

cetera.

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So you want the interaction to be over as quickly as possible by being compliant.

And if you believe that you were wrong, that's when you go to court, but you got to make it to court.

Right.

That part, that part, that is also true.

Your

portion of court should not be that you were arrested

and had

to appear in court, but that you went to file a case.

And you didn't do something that gives them probable cause to say they endangered me.

Yes, they were they were in danger and.

You know, there was talk about, I know that I heard in the initial reports, their attorney, B.I.

Rie Lamar, was saying that the young man owned the gun and it was, you know, he was legal to be able to carry the gun inside his pocket.

That's, and he doesn't have, from what they're saying,

He does not have because that's in this criminal complaint.

One of the things he's charged with with carrying a concealed weapon with no permit.

Oh, wow.

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That's a misdemeanor.

So he did not have the right to carry that fire.

Right.

And that makes every situation way more volatile because you might even have a concealed carry permit when you tell that officer and I would highly advise you do that.

If you have a firearm on your person, that situation is going to change because in that moment that cop believes they very well may get shot.

Even if you're calm and telling them that that does change the situation.

So you are probably your best interest to disclose that immediately.

Hands on 10 and two vehicles should be off and comply with the officer because now any sudden movement you can shot real simple.

Think about this.

He was sitting in the backseat with a baby next to him.

Yeah,

that adds all kinds of drama and confusion.

We got to take care of some bills.

Think about if they were going to, you know, shoot him or something.

Yeah, you know,

I

just, you know,

yeah, we heard.

For me, the baby changes everything.

Yeah, we got to get ready.

Take care of some bills.

Sharon, do we have you?

And when we return, I know

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I hang up a little

bit.

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And we are pleased and honored to be joined by our teammate.

The truth with Sherwin Hughes.

Sherwin Hughes is in the studio with us and we appreciate that bro.

We're talking about the situation with this video and the community having these

Debates that always seem to come up and even if you see a video in steel shots of a finger actually on a trigger, you know, it's still they still didn't have to do this and they didn't have to do that.

So in this particular situation, from looking at that 32nd clip, it appeared that there was some excessive use of force in that situation.

But then law enforcement was saying, hold on.

These are, this is what happened in this.

There was a cause and effect.

So I think they're not really

laying out,

right?

I think the

body, what happened?

Yeah.

I think, uh, well, in the receipt, the criminal complaints, they do, they, they, they talk about what all allegedly happened.

That's why I

was, uh,

doing, doing that.

So, but in, in, in saying all of that, I think that the body cam footage in this particular situation, like many others.

uh, is definitely going to be crucial because the body cameras should have been on when the people, uh, what was it?

Uh, what is her name?

Kennedy M. Gray.

Um, what everything that she said, it should be on that body cam footage.

So if they were all being belligerent with their language and an aggressiveness towards the law enforcement, which then made them say, we need y'all to step out of the vehicle.

Then that put some context in it and what what Sherwin has been saying.

And again, one of the reasons that I wanted to come down here.

There are so many different things that can trigger reactions from law enforcement

that

are within their rights to, you know, be like, oh, oh, oh, you know, danger, you know, did this guy initially really say, hey, I got a gun, you know, that body cam footage, though, should end up letting us hear all of that kind of stuff.

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So the only footage that I saw was there was a handcuffed man who looked to be compliant.

Then he was struck.

Right.

So even if things may have happened and things escalated prior to that, they know it's against department policy.

When you have compliance and control over the suspect, you can't strike him anymore.

But also,

I don't know

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if he was still actively resisting.

Was he kicking them?

What were his legs doing?

And also.

At that point had they discovered the firearm, the thing about having a firearm concealed carry, which for some reason we're obsessed with in our community.

Everybody

wants to

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tell everybody, oh, I got my concealed carry.

Right.

First

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of all, if you're telling people on the Internet, you have a concealed carry, you are no longer concealed.

Right.

But the biggest organization that lobbied against us having concealed carry, which we didn't get until Scott Walker became governor in 2011.

is law enforcement because traffic stops are never routine.

I know we say, oh, it's a routine traffic stop.

Well, they never are right.

And law enforcement knew that if we had concealed carry in Wisconsin traffic stops are already not routine now can add a firearm that's hidden.

So they're always a little bit more nervous because it was them that didn't want us to have concealed carry anyway.

So got to keep that in mind, ladies and gentlemen, you probably should disclose that you have a gun

or maybe just leave the gun at home.

That part may be because it's not

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like the movies.

Oh, I got to take my gun.

I'm gonna go to Subway and get a sandwich and stop a robbery.

Man, they be walking in

restaurants with the extended clips.

You see the switches.

I mean, like, like, like it's and unfortunately, in my opinion, especially from reading a lot of these criminal complaints, you're

not

legally allowed to carry a gun and you can't say that.

Oh, well, I'm doing open carry.

No, sir.

Sir ma'am yo the gun is in your pocket.

The only reason I noticed it is because the extended clip is this damn long You should

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call the police when you see that like honestly you should

Okay, that's

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not a legitimate legal way to carry a firearm plus the extended clip is probably illegal That's not open carry, but here's why you need to call the police It's not that maybe they're just carrying a gun because they're nervous and scared and

they want to scare

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everybody away Somebody will take their gun from them and that person will commit a

crime.

Yep

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I'll

snatch your gun out

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of your pocket and rob you like that's right.

We got out MKE.

Great morning.

I love you.

Appreciate you.

OK.

Well, hang on.

Hang on.

Sherwin might pull his bonnet out.

OK.

I don't expect Al this early.

Oh, no, he's always here.

He's always here.

I

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don't have my roller set.

OK.

MKE, you hear the conversation.

What's your truth this morning?

My truth is wonderful that you and Sherwin go out your way, but I think the real integrity should come from the mouth of the chef and the police officers.

Because we are always going to extra mile.

They need to go the extra mile.

Now, I don't condone yelling at the police at all, but let's say we were white.

Custom a police officer out is protected under the First Amendment now we don't we don't suggest that at all But I also feel that that should come from the police the lips of the police because Showing and you are always saying the police is good It takes both of us and we know some of our people can do too much.

We know that but we find it

ironic that every time somebody do something wrong, they got that police footage 2.0.

But when they get caught doing something, it's always an internal investigation.

There's always something happening when it's time for their police footage.

And we also know we have ones who had, who did do everything right by the police officer.

And they was cast guilty.

They was

tears wrong.

I just think it should be on the integrity of the police force and to meet a hall and the sheriff to come open their mouth instead of y'all doing it.

What I'll say to what I'll say to some of the things that you're saying Al is they have since changing and making amendments to the SOP which is the standard operating procedures

immediate family members are able to see the body cam footage within 48 hours.

The public, we are able to see it in 15 days.

So they have been, they

have been standing by that.

And again, if that is your policy and procedure, you know, I can't fault them for that because of the pressure in my opinion of our community and some of our elected officials.

they have amended it to wear those time frames where the family can see it within 48 hours now as opposed to before it was just investigation investigation would show it when we show it so I just wanted

to put

that in there

and then my last two things I was going to say make sure you be very aware of the police office that you come into contact with because some of them who are white

are pathological liars and you would know who I'm talking about and some of the black women and we love all our women you gotta watch them as well because see some of them are cops but they met because they got a man at home beating on them and they messing with a woman down the street so just be careful because I have came into contact with black women who were cops and the first thing they said was I thought you was gonna shoot me

I said, I'm not your man.

You don't have to worry about that.

I live in peace and harmony.

I went to Fifth District and filed a police report.

And the man standing behind the counter tried to say I was lying.

But when I called back the next day, the police officer said, he told you wrong.

I said, well, he said everything I gave wasn't in the computer.

So be aware of all of them.

All right.

We got

to get ready.

We got to get ready.

Have a good day, everybody.

Have a good day, everybody.

I know I never

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said the police are always right.

I'm trying to get folks to avoid them.

Right.

Why are you getting pulled

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over by the police and then yelling at the cops?

And if you can work with us, I don't know, you know, you may not be able to stay for the next part if you, you know, still got your preparation you're doing.

So I want to give you a chance to kind of say something now.

before we go to break or if you can hang around.

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Let's take a break.

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We also have James on the true text

line.

Like 20 minutes.

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And I know that Truth Nation, you'll have some questions.

Currently, we're dealing with the situation where we've seen the video of what appears to be excessive use of force by Milwaukee law enforcement, but they're saying, hey, hey, hey, hold on.

That's not the whole story.

So we're waiting, you know what I'm saying?

So I'm not.

Siding one way or another until I see the body cam footage because it will then let me know if that's Exactly what happened or not or if what I saw on that screen was excessive use of force

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We got a couple of calls on the truth text line 833212 1017 James.

Great morning.

Love you.

Appreciate you.

You hear the conversation.

What's your truth?

Good morning.

How y'all doing?

Bless.

I just want it.

Okay, great.

I just want to say that a lot of people don't know this, but the police

are not American police force.

The police started in the 1800s after slavery.

America contracts, they're from Scotland.

That's where when the police officer dies, you see them dressed and they're doing the Scottish.

America made a contract and every so many years they have to renew their contract and the president has to protect them.

They're not American force at all.

They're hired.

Sorry.

No, go ahead.

You

can do your research.

I know it's funny

to

you.

Don't take my word for it.

I guess I've

been to college on this.

Don't take my word for do your research.

And yes, you're going to find out they are from Scotland and Scotland runs it in every so many years.

The president had to sign a new contract for them to contain and remain police.

That's why they would never be

Ever be charged directly for what they're doing because for one they're paid.

Okay.

That's all I'm gonna say.

Thank you, James

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How come I don't get calls like that?

He said they stay Scottish and the president Well, tell

that to Derek Sherwin.

That's all I'm saying.

Order in the studio.

Yeah, no.

Sherwin.

You right.

Yeah.

He said, hold on

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Bailey.

Okay.

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He went to college on this.

See, that's all I'm saying.

He learned

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one day.

That's what he learned in one

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day.

Pay $48,000 intuition to learn this.

They

sweat.

Wow.

Wow.

We're going to Steve on the truth.

I take slides.

And a black baby.

What?

They were

killed showing 833212 1017.

Steve.

Great morning.

Love you.

Appreciate you.

You hear the conversation.

What's your truth?

Good morning, everybody.

Can you hear me?

Okay.

Yes.

Okay.

Uh, the last color, well, I don't know about that, but I just had to counter it.

If you will, the proper word to what the encompasses what it's called a police officer, black, white, pink, purple, male, female, blah, blah, blah, blah, all that they should represent society in America.

I did work at police stations.

I always wanted to ask them, I asked the white cop, black cop, all that Asian cop, female, all that.

And the first, and then there's bad apples.

I get that there's bad, bad.

White cops, there's a problem with that was, let me digress, was when they had enrollment for police officers, they did not, like the army is doing now to evaluate.

nutballs and cycles that pull the trigger at two nanoseconds.

So you get all that.

But overwhelmingly, every cop color creed that is a cop that puts on a uniform says the one color is blue.

And you'll get bad John Wayne cops.

And you get then cops that want to work with the community.

Now, the last point is that you have to remember, I'm not excusing excess of force.

If the cops doing stuff illegally, you have to keep them abided by what they should be then if they commit a crime or the jail, prison, whatever.

But you got to remember, and all of them said this, that when people say excess of force happens to be that they detain somebody and they, you see eight steps after.

before it happened.

So here you see two, three, four cops getting on top of a person that detained because they're all pissed off because they got punched or spit in the face.

Does that mean they should use excessive force?

But we also have to remember that it's all color blue and they protect their own.

So that's my point and I'll take it off the air.

Thank you.

All right.

Thank you, C. Sherwin.

All right.

Please, that's it.

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I think he oversimplified it.

So, yeah, police officers do have a brotherhood and a sisterhood, but talk to a black cop, especially a retired one, because once they retire, they feel free

to share their

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experience.

That those white cops, even though it's the thin blue line, the white cops hate black cops just as much as they may hate members of our community because a racist white cop doesn't look at a black colleague and say, oh, you're a cop just like me.

I'm going to treat you fair.

Racist white cops hate all black and brown people.

There will be situations where a black cop might be in a little bit of trouble might need backup

if

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the officers Don't like this particular black cop because maybe he wants to de-escalate and he's fair to African-American motorists when they get pulled over You know being like officer friendly, which is what we remember what we're right when that black cop needs trouble needs back of the white cops don't come

That has happened on numerous occasions.

It's not all about the blue line cops can be very well their representations of society if

you got

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racist people in society Sometimes you give them a badge and there's just more power.

Yeah

Yeah So Bailey, what was your thoughts on

the car?

I mean, I felt the same way, you know, it's the same with any microcosm of of our society any any group of people, you know

Making up, you know a bigger culture that if there's racism in there if there's racism involved Then it is what it is, you know, and they're not gonna get that support.

So Same here, you know,

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yeah, they initiate rookies.

Mm-hmm.

I had a Police officer former police officer on my show years ago in WN OB and she actually was suing the department

You know, she actually wanted to be a good cop surrounded by bad cops.

So she

told me

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that when she was a rookie, they wanted to test her to see if she would like be a snitch.

So there was a known dope dealer didn't have an arrest warrant.

They just wanted to go and mess with them.

They went in his house.

They defecated on his bed.

They stole his PlayStation.

They beat him up.

They vandalized this house and they wanted to see what she was going to do.

And she said at that point she realized six months into the force that she did not want to be a Milwaukee police officer.

And because she witnessed that now she didn't go to internal affairs or any of that.

But she didn't participate.

And so she was on the list of the other cops like you can't trust this woman.

You can't trust

so and

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so.

So they were out for her the entire time she was on the force and up.

So in the police officer or so.

So in Milwaukee Police Department and Federal Court.

So there there's something else.

Yeah.

That's crazy.

That's crazy.

A

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lot of stories like

that.

Yeah.

So what do you think?

the outcome and what is your thought Sherwin on how this may play out.

Do you think that it will end up proving that there was some belligerent behavior that led to what we saw on that video?

Sherwin Hughes

Well, we've activated B ivory Lamar.

So here's probably the part of the video where the suspect did appear at least from what I saw.

To be compliant and then they were struck They're gonna sue the city's gonna settle because that's what happens every single time the city of Milwaukee does not like to fight these cases Our city attorney is gonna say we're gonna offer you three million dollars a common counsel is gonna approve it and There's three million dollars that we can't use to pick up the garbage and plow the snow because that happens all the time You sue the city of Milwaukee.

They're gonna settle.

Hmm Like 90% of the time because they don't want to fight it because the cost go up the longer it gets dragged out in court

They rather just cut you a three million dollar check and make the whole thing go away.

Now,

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here's the other part.

The police are not going to admit to any wrongdoing.

But here's the three million dollar settlement.

So that's probably and then be Ivy Lamar going to get him another time.

Listen, what?

Let me tell you.

Nice time.

Let me tell you something.

He's going to move downtown.

He ain't downtown already.

He's going to get him a nice sweet.

No,

no, I'm just saying, if you need a gun, stay home on the YouTube page.

Well, she I mean, she got a point

said today if you have a gun and a police encounter legal or not, whatever happens is your fault.

R.C.

Creation Museum said half handcuffed.

You see his right hand on the ground, not that that warrants being hit in the face like that.

I did see that.

Sherwin Hughes

Well, hold on, though, if he wasn't cuffed and he was not complying and resisting, they can beat you up.

Yeah, so it's better

off getting cuffed.

Yeah.

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Which

hurts

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the way you said clubs hurt not that I know.

I mean, I've done freaky things.

Hey, relax.

Order in the studio.

Order in the studio.

Sherwin Hughes

We're

going.

We're going to ask

me to come down here.

We have

Jay on the truth.

Talk text lines 8 3 3 2 1 2 10 17.

Welcome to truth in the morning.

What's your truth, Jay?

Hey,

how y'all y'all doing?

I appreciate

you taking my call.

I've had an accountant with that female officer and her partner before.

She had a different partner.

A couple of years ago, they tried to put a case on me.

Born and raised in this city.

In my fifties, never, never had a criminal arrest or anything.

And they tried to put all these charges.

So I did what she normally said.

You don't like something like that?

Take it to court.

And I was found not guilty on all the charges.

But when her partner came to court, he didn't have a Milwaukee police uniform.

He had a suburban police uniform.

And I said, good riddance.

Milwaukee don't need cops like you.

And the partner got reassigned.

But I know them face.

They tried to put a case on me.

And it's like, God is no joke.

What they were doing in the dark came to light.

What they charged you with?

Just to let you know.

What were they trying to charge you with?

Somebody made a fake police call on me and said, I threatened them and I had a gun thing out of my pocket.

I had concealed carrier, been a concealed carrier holder for the past 12 years and they roughed me up, tried me with a struck thing, a threat and disorderly conduct.

None of that never happened.

They played the body counts in court and I had a majority white jury.

And they seen it was some bull crap.

Finally not guilty on all the charges.

All right.

Never had a criminal record.

None

of

that.

Your clip wasn't hanging out.

Was it the clip?

No,

no.

But if you got to consider, I talked to Wisconsin Justice Department, you got to conceal Kerry.

You can have a gun take to your forehead.

It might freak some people out, but you can have a gun take to your forehead.

Yes, it's not

against the law.

Okay.

Okay.

All

right.

Thank you.

We're going to go to James.

He didn't have his extended clip wrong.

All right.

James.

Good morning.

Love you.

Appreciate you.

You hear the conversation.

What's your truth, James?

I'm back and now I'm going to tell you 1800.

Oh,

no, we done with that.

We done with that.

We done with that.

No, no, no.

We done with that.

We done with that.

Ain't nobody wearing no kilts around here.

He went to college on this homer.

I know.

I know.

I know.

We got

to take care of some bills.

Two hours in.

Two hours in for his $48.

Two hours.

Two hours?

No, no.

OK.

I'm back.

I got to go

now.

Sherwin Hughes

I know you

do.

I know you do.

And

thank you very

much, Sherwin, for stopping

in and hanging out with us.

It was fun.

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It's been exciting thus far.

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You know, we've been dealing with, you know, getting people's troops on that video.

Yeah.

Are you willing to wait?

I mean, again, the standard operating procedures that you'll hear

Chief Norman or other people talk about and shorten it as the SOP, which again stands for standard operating procedures.

So they did listen to the community and they're making concerns about that's too long.

We need to have access.

So they made it where the immediate family within 48 hours get to see the body cam footage and then the public.

the general public, we get to see it after 15 days.

Right.

And that is much quicker than what it used to be.

Oh, it

used to be when we put

it out.

When we put it out.

Right.

Absolutely.

You know, you would look.

Absolutely.

You know, absolutely.

So, um, again, and I think that just like with anything else, if you're fighting for something, even at a job, be like, well.

Why do why is it like this?

We should be able or allowed to do this or allowed to do that.

And it was really a joint effort from your teammates.

Then that's something that absolutely should be able to be discussed and say, OK, well, you know what?

We understand we hear you and here's what we're going to do to come to a.

middle ground, so to speak.

So, and I think when they do that, you got to respect that.

Right.

Because, okay, they listen.

And some changes were made.

But, you know, we are in such a get it now society, in my opinion, the microwave society.

It's done.

Yeah.

Or is it?

You know what I mean?

Understand.

And so, and that's why, and it's almost like a blood thirst that people have.

Yeah.

I want to, I want to, you know, but some of those same people that will film the tragedy of other people when it's they love one, take that video down.

Yeah,

I went to your page and you shared a lot of other people's tragedy on your social media page And you got into a great this my page don't come to my page if you don't you know what I mean?

So Again, we gotta we gotta come to some type of common ground like which way is it?

Is it bad or is it only bad when they showing your family members or somebody that's friends with you?

Or is it just bad overall?

And it's just the practice that shouldn't be practiced.

You know, so we find situations where the camera footage may have been may have helped.

But then there's situations where it's like, no, come on now, this person is out here taking a last breath.

Yeah,

you know,

well, those are the ones you got to report.

You know, when you see him report him,

you know, what's what's so crazy about that, though, Bailey, you know, I always thought that, yeah, that's the simple solution.

you can report those videos and You can put up about your fur baby, right?

If you got a pet that you love and care about you put them up and they may be doing What they call in heat moment, right?

So So y'all know y'all figure it out when I'm saying that and and the cute dog might be doing that that moment and Somebody will report it and they'll take it down and talk about taking your page and all that but now you have somebody that was shot

But this is where I'm going.

This is where I'm going.

So things that's OK is all things fair.

You see these people having to see their loved ones fighting for their life or already deceased, but they they show it and you report it to social media.

You report it to whichever brand it is and it stays up.

Well, I shouldn't.

Right.

That's what that so you get where I'm going.

It's like.

Yeah, it's

like

you're not going to stop people from posting crazy stuff.

Right.

Even bullying stuff.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

Oh, yeah.

It's some things that are absolutely bullied.

Oh, and they will leave it.

They will leave it up.

They will leave it up.

Yeah.

Be like, well, we reviewed it and we didn't find anything harmful about it.

So

yeah,

you caught

up.

Yeah,

you know what I'm saying?

Because like I say, they also now have something on Facebook.

Mm hmm.

It's like how what is now X, but he's Twitter.

Oh, the things that you would see on there.

Oh, yeah.

But now they got it on Facebook.

Yeah.

You see it everything.

Yeah.

And it ain't like, oh, if you're under 16 or you can't go to the page, you can go to the page.

It's a public page.

Mm hmm.

with everything that shouldn't be on there.

Yeah.

So you know, it's crazy.

But you know what?

There's a lot of things that are going on inside our MPS system.

And we are going to be blessed and graced with the superintendent.

Yeah, MPS.

I want to encourage you guys if you're on our YouTube chat and you have questions.

for Dr. Casselius, go ahead and put them in the chat.

If we can get to them, we will.

You can also utilize our two talk text line, 833-212-1017, because it's important that we get some of these, you know, she's coming here.

Yeah, absolutely.

It's a

great opportunity for everybody.

Yeah,

if you have questions to get your questions answered, if we can get to them, we will.

Yeah, absolutely.

And we know that there are things and one thing that I can love and appreciate about our superintendent for NPS, Dr. Brenda Casalius, is that, you know, she doesn't run from the problems that are going on and problems that, in my opinion, I've admitted to a long time ago that

She actually inherited.

Yes.

You feel what I'm saying?

She inherited a ton.

A ton.

I

mean, this school

district.

Yes.

For years.

Decades.

Shortfalls.

Decades worth of mismanagement.

Yeah.

So, you know,

I mean, I, we understand that she can't,

you

know, clear up everything overnight.

But if you just have a question or something that's always been there on your mind, you know, and we can get to it, we will.

So hit us up in the chat.

And don't say you haven't had an opportunity.

Ain't that what I say

all the time, baby?

This is

your opportunity.

It's like when people say come out to the town hall meeting.

Come to the town hall.

You feel what I'm saying?

Instead of saying, oh, well, this is your opportunity to do it in a healthy way.

You

feel what I'm saying?

Give your suggestions

yet.

Yeah,

no because when people don't attend.

Yeah,

I say it all the time Then it's like, okay.

Well, we didn't get many suggestions.

Yeah,

so this is what we're gonna do

Yeah,

and then it's like why they do that though, right?

I'd say it about the bump outs all the time.

Yeah

I hate them.

Damn bump out.

Okay.

But I understand why they there, uh, because not enough people, you know, y'all coming out after the fact, talking about, man, they don't make no sense.

They stupid.

Well, so as some of these reckless drivers that are destroying, uh, other people's property and taking lives, injuring people for the rest of their life, uh, all of that kind of stuff.

So is that.

Yeah.

So if we ain't going to take control of finding out that it was a 16, 15, 14, 13, 12 year old.

Yeah.

Driving the car or in the car.

So that means you ain't getting your kids.

Right.

You ain't getting your kids.

Get your kids.

So now we got bump outs.

Yep.

That are frustrating to you as the guardian of that child.

Yes.

Why they got this speed bump right in the middle here to slow your ass down?

Because I'm telling you.

Last night like I wish it would have been a bump out there.

She would have been a speed hump there

Exactly

cuz then maybe only that person would have been injured.

Yeah,

you know, we don't want nobody to be but put other people's lives in jeopardy But it's gonna be a great time.

So we'll be coming black.

Yes,

so

get your questions in now if you're in our YouTube chat.

This is your opportunity

Put your question up for Dr. Casselius, or you can also hit us up on the two talk text line.

We can now see your text.

So go ahead and text us 833-212-1017.

When we return, we'll be joined by the NPS superintendent.

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So we've been having a great.

Yeah.

Energy with Sherwin coming down.

Yeah.

Now we've got the NPS superintendent.

Yeah.

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Of course, we are awaiting the arrival of our very special guest district superintendent.

She is our superintendent of MPS here in Milwaukee and Dr. Brenda Casalia.

So as we await her arrival and get her situated here in the studio,

We will get into the discussion.

But again, if you have some things that you'd like to ask, besides the things that we'll be talking about and questions that we'll be asking, we'll try to make sure that we have time.

We'll get to those questions for you as well.

Right.

You know, like I say, NPS has been in the news for a lot of things, some positive,

some not so

positive.

Yeah.

So like.

I'll be interested to find out, you know, who dropped the ball with the Rufus King situation.

Right.

You know, is that because again, there is a protocol.

It has to be a protocol of what has to be followed.

So is that one of those situations where the school didn't follow?

the proper protocol or whoever was,

whoever was working in the office

and it

charges that particular situation.

You know, you

know, there's somebody in there,

right?

Absolutely.

And I bet

they'll probably have someone that's more dedicated to it because it might just been an office secretary or something.

And that's when we're

dealing with the tenants and this and that and all this kind of stuff.

And they probably came in and they were like, Oh yeah, you.

Okay.

Go ahead.

Yeah.

So I understand.

Yeah.

Okay.

All right.

Good.

Don't do your thing.

And didn't really pay that much attention to it because who's who's thinking?

Yeah

The Amy gonna roll through

that part.

Who's thinking about that?

Amy and then after that she really rolled through by stealing a car

She had a whole list of things

to do again

go out to Brookfield

catch me if you

can

Exactly.

It's like

the movie.

The Caprio.

The Caprio.

Catch me if you can.

Exactly.

Exactly.

But she's not pretty.

She's not good at it because she's got caught each time.

Not at all.

She's chosen to do these egregious things, these criminal activities.

Yes.

So yeah, that is definitely a situation.

Let's see.

My dear, great morning.

Love you.

Appreciate you.

Said a lawyer, Brandon Ivory is a good guy.

I did a lot of roofs for him.

Oh, OK.

Yeah.

And

that's cool.

You

know what?

He's just doing his thing.

I mean, that's his

job.

Absolutely.

You

know,

absolutely.

So that part, that part, that part.

And we don't want to get, you know, too far off of where we'll be going.

So we're going to take care of a break.

So then that way we'll have more time to kind of like shoot through.

Right.

With our guests.

Yes.

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Good morning, true nation.

Welcome black to truth in the morning on the award winning one on one seven FM the truth.

I'm the legendary Homer blow along with the girl

Bailey Coleman.

And we are pleased to be joined by our NPS Superintendent, Dr. Brenda Cosalius.

Great morning.

How are you doing and feeling this

morning?

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

Bailey.

Well, first of all,

First of all, I want to shout you out, because you know what?

You came in.

I mean, MPS has had decades upon decades of mismanagement and all kinds of craziness going on.

And you came in and said, oh, we're going to clean it all up.

And you started right away.

And as a taxpayer and a former MPS parents,

I totally appreciate that.

I was like, oh, she's ready to go.

I like her.

So congratulations on that.

Well, thank you so much.

You know, it it's a lot.

It has been a lot.

But there's a lot of good people working in MPS.

And there's a history and a lot of people want to see us succeed.

And so that makes it all worth it.

Yeah, absolutely.

So right out the gate, the test scores are up, right?

They are.

Yes.

And not just up in literacy and reading.

And our black students are outpacing all other students, which is amazing.

Wow.

And so it's so good to see our students doing so well.

And they're also up in.

math and social studies and science,

grades

three through eight.

And then we just have a new literacy adoption as well to align to the elementary grades for our high school students.

So we expect to see their scores going up next year as well.

Wow.

Okay.

Now, you know, there's a lot of talk in a lot of different areas.

We heard about school closings and people were like,

What the hell is going on?

Right.

You can't close this school.

Exactly.

I grew up in this school, you know, all my family, we went to this school.

And some of the schools that are under consideration or recommendation for closure, the Our Avenue School, the Clark Street School, Hopkins Lloyd Community School, Heath Avenue School and Seaford School.

So is this, you know, what is

the reason that this even had to come up for like recommendation of like, look, these are some schools that we may have to close.

And what does that mean for the MPS community as far as parents and guardians that have students that are going to these schools?

So do we just lose that?

Or is there something that is in the works that will say, okay, yes.

They're under consideration.

And if we do, there's some other things that may be brewing that we don't know about.

And since we have you here, we'd like to get the information directly from you.

Well, I'm so glad to clear this up.

So, you know, I came here because of black children and children who are most vulnerable kids.

And so you can always be guaranteed that I'm never going to make a decision that is going to take away resources from the black

community.

So hands down, that will never happen.

Secondly, we are trying to right size the district to the population that we have so that children can actually have more when they're in school.

Better staffing, better opportunities, better amenities at their school, playgrounds that we should have in our schools, libraries and librarians, nurses, social workers, counselors.

all the support staff that our children need to succeed.

To do that, we want to be able to bring to the community a vision for over the next 10 years where we build three to five schools or renovate major renovations at schools.

We just did six renovations in the central part of the city in the Northwest part of the city.

And I'll tell you about that in just a minute, because it's very exciting.

And I don't think many people know about it.

I spent about $25 million on it.

But what I'm hoping to do is bring a vision to the community that builds three to five schools.

Of course, that would mean once we build those schools that some schools would come off the inventory.

These are old schools.

They don't have proper playgrounds.

They don't have libraries.

They don't have.

They're old we got to constantly be painting them for their lead.

They don't have air conditioning They're not you know people with disabilities can't get into the school You know so it's very expensive or they have leaking roofs and bad plumbing

You know, it's going to cost us a fortune to

fix

the old building and our average age of building in the district is 85 years old.

Wow.

The average age is 85 years old.

Yes.

So these buildings are

actually liabilities now.

You know what the average age of a building is across the

nation?

I

think

we had one of the hottest summers in Milwaukee that we've ever had on record.

And so we

had to cancel school.

We had to cancel because of fires in Canada and the smoke that came into the school.

Of

course, one of our own schools went down because

of

the fire.

So

we have to protect and have safe spaces for our children.

Yes.

We want to honor the legacies of some of those buildings and who they're named after.

We want to honor the community and the buildings and the role that they played in the history of Milwaukee.

But we also want to give our children.

the same opportunities that suburban children have yes this country and across the state is this you know they they need a fair fighting chance and we want to give it to them

you know one of the things that I can also appreciate is that you're not afraid to say that

Urban schools like you know Yeah, our black students and all of that because you know some people in my opinion will probably try to steer away and be like Oh, so you're just talking about them and it's like no we know that the problems and the issues that are going on inside of our community that we often talk about are not addressed as Openly and enough I

mean it is we live in a segregated city.

Mm-hmm.

I mean

You can just see that driving around.

Yes.

You go to some schools and they have everything.

Yeah.

And you go to other schools and they have nothing.

And they cannot get the kind of resources and staffing that they need.

This has been going on for decades.

And it's

not just Milwaukee.

It happens in

Boston.

It happens in Minneapolis.

It happens in Chicago.

It happens in St.

Louis.

It happens everywhere.

Right.

And black students get the least.

And they get the least experienced teachers because you have buildings that are underutilized And often, you know, I I don't I'm not gonna take on the fight of choice But because you have choice schools you disperse the resources

in the community

Therefore it makes it much more difficult to give children the kind of services and and Education that they deserve

speaking of teachers.

All right.

I believe that they said it was a

a protest, an eight-year-old, I was like, hey, y'all gonna get rid of my teacher.

So when we hear about the fact that teachers, you know, some positions are being cut, teachers being let go, different staff members being let go, and we're saying like, why?

Why is this a necessary thing?

So with you, and again, I always acknowledge that in my opinion, and we've had a chance to speak even at our Truth Family Summit,

that it's a lot of deficit shortfalls with the money and some things where you had people that were sitting in the central office and it's like, you know what?

Y'all can really go black into the schools and start helping out.

So can you kind of like break down why it's important?

the choices and the way that you are having to do things where some teachers are being let go.

But then we're also hearing about things where now there's going to be this person to help deal with some of the issues that some of the children may not have with the school, but at home.

So it's like you're trying to address a pot of everything, a gumbo.

So can you talk about that a little

bit?

You know, Milwaukee has had vacancies.

We carry about 100 or so vacancies every year.

This would be the first year we'll be able to say we have a permanent licensed teacher for every single student.

This accessing that we just went and did was important because you take students, you take schools like our school or Hopkins Lloyd, they have a hard time getting staff.

and staffing their school buildings.

Even though back in January, we identified 19 high priority schools

that

had staff turnover quite a bit.

We can't get teachers to

go to those schools.

And

so it's either community elements that are challenging because maybe they perceive violence in the community

or something

going on.

Or it's just that the...

it's been a struggle to get permanently licensed teacher.

What this does is allows us to where we had overages and we didn't need the extra teachers because now we have a standard of

care.

A

baseline that we said is the class size that we want to have across the district and the type of services we want to have at the schools.

We now have that baseline.

We call it a standard of care

and

when you your enrollment doesn't meet that standard of

care For instance, you

have two section three sections.

What happened?

It was French immersion school.

They had three sections of K4

Mm-hmm.

They had only 40 students Wow, so our class size was 1 to 20

So we didn't need three sections, we

only

needed two sections of K-4.

And so we were able, and these are students who are new to the school too, so it wouldn't disrupt the grade level progression going to first, second, third graders.

So we were able to cut that one teacher and then that teacher can be redeployed to Hopkins Lloyd or some

other

school.

So we had 47.

current vacancies in the district and by cutting 56 positions we were able to get teachers and then now fill and have a permanent teacher in those classrooms.

Now we have permanent teachers from year to year to year and we only have to deal with the retirements or folks who leave Milwaukee.

And so we're

really

excited about this opportunity because when you have a permanent licensed teacher you can create a family like atmosphere in a school.

You can create a sense of community.

And there's calm and the teachers are working together as a team for the benefit of children and families.

And it's just a beautiful thing and every school should have it.

Where we see excellent schools, you see permanently licensed experienced teachers who have been there for a while.

Speaking of excellent licensed schools, right?

And I know that this has come to you.

So who dropped the ball?

How did Amy L Jones?

get into Rufus King.

How did she circumvent?

What is the protocol?

What is the process to how she got the three classes?

They caught her at the third class, but how did that happen?

And I know that people will immediately, in my opinion, try to attack you and say, well, see, this should happen.

That should happen.

And me and Bailey have been saying like whoever's in that office didn't do something right.

You know what I'm saying?

Because we know there has to be some type of protocol.

So can you address that a little bit?

Well, obviously we have 11,000 employees and I can't

be there at every single school.

However, I do take responsibility.

everything that happens in Milwaukee public schools, the buck stops with me.

And so what I can do now though is prevent it from ever happening again.

And so I think what happened was she's a former student,

she was

recognizable, she

came in with the kids,

looks very young, looks like the kids, and then falsified information to the office staff.

And the office

staff did check.

and

but

she

falsified

right information

and that

that will

all come out but you know still we have to do our due diligence right because safety is our number one priority and so now we've taken new steps we've

talk to the principals, we talk to the secretaries, we're making sure that they are following

through on their protocols.

They have to do sign-offs now.

So there's a lot more that we're going to do.

So when you find these things and you have these mistakes that happen,

security breaches

that

helps us to strengthen it for

all schools.

Yeah.

And so,

um, you know, we don't take this lightly.

We take it very seriously.

It is a serious breach.

I take full responsibility and we are going to make sure that this does not happen and continue.

I told you that we'll go.

I told you it's going to be some change.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

Uh, so real quick.

So a lot of people are saying, I give money to NPS all the time.

Every time there's a tax this or whatever that, if something else is going to come, what else is coming?

So I noticed that you have a budget committee here.

Can you give us a rundown on what's happening?

Well,

I'm hoping the legislature will step up and do its constitutional duty and give us the right adequate funding for students, particularly our students with disabilities.

And so I'm hoping that all of your listeners will get out and vote

in November

because I don't think there's anything more important right now than us getting out and voting and voting for pro education candidates and pro human candidates Who are prioritizing because government is there to help the poor

and the needy, it's there to help children, it's there to help the elderly, and it's there to help those with disabilities.

That's why we pay taxes.

And I don't think anybody listening feels bad about paying taxes if it's gonna help people in need,

right?

They just don't want wasteful spending.

And what we're trying to do is tighten our belt.

You talked about cuts.

When I first came, we cut 43 positions.

Then in last year we cut 264 central office positions

Wow,

so I mean that's almost 300 positions that we've cut to

try

to tighten our belt So we're taking our job seriously.

We're tightening our belt, but the state is sitting there with about four billion dollars that could be spent on tax relief it could be spent on Giving our kids a better education.

It could be spent on kids with disabilities

There's a number of things that they could do with the money that all of us have to create great communities and to invest in our next generation of leaders here in Wisconsin.

Could this lead to a new referendum?

And you know, because some people are like, I

know.

There was a lot that went down.

And again, this all came in.

It hits you like a ton of bricks, in my opinion.

And I told you, I was like, it's kind of unfair what you have came into, but you did accept the position in the role.

Could people perhaps see a referendum again coming up?

I

have been honest with the Milwaukee community since I came.

Absolutely.

If the state

does not put in additional resources to Milwaukee public schools, I believe we will need to go to referenda.

But I think that the money's there, the state, to do it, to look at their formula and to give us the resources that we need to educate the children across Wisconsin.

This is not just a Milwaukee problem.

This is a

problem across all of Wisconsin.

And so they need to fix this formula.

That's for operations.

So

I

said, we're tightening our belt, right?

We're working within our means

to get our kids what they need.

So

we're making the cuts.

The next thing I need to do is get a new pot of money for these builds.

I told you, the schools are 85 years

old.

They're old and they need to be replaced.

And

it's going to cost more to replace them in 10 years.

If we don't get started now, so we need an operational, excuse me, of referendum just to fix our schools and to build new schools.

So I anticipate at some point, I'm gonna need to ask the community to give us some sort of resources for that, but not in the near future.

All

right,

Bailey.

It's been an honor.

I actually wish we would have had even more time.

Yeah.

Again, we appreciate you being able to come on the truth and speak your truth and give people a better understanding because I think that that's what happens a lot.

People don't really understand the workings and the things that you're dealing with and making better.

So you have made some.

very good improvements with the burden that you came in on.

Yes, I

applaud you.

I applaud you for all the work that you've done thus far and I look forward to seeing what more you do in your position.

No one does this work alone.

There's a whole community behind us and

I

love.

Ask me to come on anytime.

I love talking.

Oh,

right.

Because once they know what's really going on, then they really do support the work.

Yeah,

absolutely.

And I'm

not, you know, buttercup.