Versiti Blood Center of Wisconsin

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Versiti Blood Center of Wisconsin

Truth in The Morning · Tue Sep 15, 2026

1017 the truth is truth in the morning with Homer blow and Bailey Coleman And we have special guests in studio with us this morning from versity.

We've got Kristen Harris.

I said that right, right?

All right.

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Kristen Harris.

Barbara Bell and James Griffin.

Good morning, everybody.

Good morning, guys.

So you all have a summit coming up.

We do.

We have a sickle cell summit coming up at the end of the month next Friday, the 25th at Thrive on King from one to four.

So September sickle cell awareness month.

In the word out.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

So sickle cell.

Mm hmm.

is something that affects mostly people of color, right?

Correct.

Oh, no, you got to scoot into your mic.

We got to get that voice on.

I can tell.

That's a beautiful voice.

There we go.

Okay, well, I repeat what you said.

Brown and

black

people.

Brown and black people.

So how did we get the pleasure of being the majority in this particular disease?

Well, yeah,

it's passed down through trait, but coming from African being African descended Malaria the higher presence of malaria sickle cell having that trait gene protect the people from getting malaria So it was beneficial over there, but in the US where we don't have a higher prevalence of malaria then When you get two parents together two people together who have that gene is passed down to a child and that's how we ended up with it.

So

Rooted back to history.

So do both parents have to have the gene in order for the child to get it?

They do and every pregnancy is a 25% chance if both parents have the sickle cell gene that a child will have sickle cell

Okay, so is it possible for one parent just to have the gene and the child get it?

No both both parents have to get it because each parent passes on a set of genes and that makes up sickle cell Wow parents pass it down.

Okay

Okay, very interesting.

So

you may have heard of it as sickle cell trait.

Right.

Yeah.

So that's the gene that he's talking about.

Okay.

So both parents have that sickle cell trait.

That's past.

Yeah.

Okay.

And one of the things with that when I know so many people that are living with sickle cell and know a lot of people who passed away from sickle cell and in knowing that and knowing how, how that works, is it

Familiar like some diseases that people may have where you can be like you could have the trait but not necessarily pass it on No, you have to have that trait gene to pass it on But I'm saying are there some people that are born that even though their parents may have it but they don't end up showing signs of having the sickle cell trait

Oh, yeah, that's that's true.

Yeah, that's that's that's where I was going because I know a lot of people like what my baby don't have it, right?

You don't understand they get tested How soon should people get tested?

Is it something that you can find right away?

Or is it something that?

After you continue to grow then you kind of learn that oh something isn't feeling right

yet No, the best practice is to get it tested when a baby is born.

So newborn screening

It's on the registry list now, so every baby born here in Wisconsin will get tested and screened for a sickle cell trait.

Okay.

Christian, for someone who has heard of sickle cell disease but doesn't know much about it, why is this again an important community health conversation?

And we need people to come out because oftentimes people hear certain things about different summits or health fairs and

they don't end up attending

right

like they should.

But yet they got family members and friends that may be battling with sickle cell.

So yeah.

And how would you describe that for somebody who hasn't heard about it and doesn't know much about it and why it's so important to have a conversation?

Yeah, I think for us at VersaD, you know, September, I said a sickle cell awareness month,

but

it's a disease that isn't talked about a lot.

You don't see commercials.

You don't see

TV shows around it.

You don't see billboards, all the things that you may see for another disease, which is sickle cell is just as important to highlight.

So adversity, we are a blood center.

So sickle cell is a blood disorder, blood disease.

So we're taking it upon ourselves to have a sickle cell summit.

Where we're going to educate not only just community members,

but

those living with sickle cell clinical Doctors nurses who work with those living with sickle cell the caregivers for people who are taking care of those living with sickle cell because that's a toll too and just talk about the overall disease we're gonna have some of our Researchers that are doing the research around sickle cell disease from versity will have some doctors who actually treat those living with sickle cell disease from children's speaking about

their experience and what they see in the clinics.

And then we'll also have some sickle cell warriors, people living with sickle cell that'll be speaking on the panel to talk about their experience.

So how does sickle cell affect family and friends?

That's a loaded question.

I can let James.

Well, just living with sickle cell disease, it affects the family because it's something that the child is always in pain or may have daily pain or go through pain.

And so.

those parents have to take care of that child and take their child to the hospital and people don't understand the amount of effort it takes to take care of a child with sickle cell and the parents usually have to end up not working because the child has either chronic pain all the time or it's just constantly up and down and in and out of pain and so it makes it hard for a parent to work.

Growing up my mother had to quit her job just so she could take care of me because as a

child I was in

the hospital so much.

Wow.

It was a monthly thing and so

you know, it makes it hard to work and affects the whole parent.

What is a pain like for someone living with sickle cell disease?

What kind of pain is it?

It's excruciating.

So I don't know if you've ever jammed your hand in a door or not.

I could just kind of compare it to that.

The intensity of it is much more greater and on a greater scale.

So to me, it feels like my body's being squeezed in a vice grip or just being hit with like a baseball bat.

It's just that painful that

You can't do anything about it, but take pain medications

like

morphine and hope that works.

If

not, then

you go to the hospital and they give you

more

pain medication and IV fluids.

Okay.

And we, uh, and for those who are listening again, we're joined by versity and James Griffin, the brother that we are speaking with, uh, he's living with sickle cell disease since childhood.

So it's.

Great to have somebody in here that can really talk about what those crisis are, are like, because he lives it.

Right.

Um, how, you know, to know that you're with adversity, like today, what would happen right now if you were to go into a crisis?

What, what, what, what is that real life, real time?

Because I know some people, as you were saying that every moment of the day, sometimes.

It's a challenge, but we see some of these people and they be at work and it's like you having a crisis, but you know, but you still working so Talk about that part because there's a lot of people trust me that I know that are living with sickle cell like you

Yeah, over time you learn how to manage it.

So it's different pain levels.

So if you can have pain every day, but some pain is just Not a variable.

Yeah, it's not as string with us other pain is so

it can come on gradually and then just snowball into an effect where one minute you can be fine and then something can trigger

it like a cold weather or just

humidity or just even like strenuous workouts so

that can come

on and that can lead you to have to have more pain and then you know that's when it gets intense and you have to do something about it and you leave work and you know go get treated.

What types of challenges?

Have you faced living with sickle cell in your family?

What what challenges has that caused for them?

I would just say just being the only one living with sickle cell in my family Just feeling like I was alone But I've always had to support of my family and so they had to either start what they were doing to check on me help me out Give me to the hospital pick up prescriptions.

I need it

So it's it affects the whole family and that's something that people don't understand about the disease It's

not just like it's one

person me going through it.

It's a whole family because it creates You know a lot of attention that

sickle cell

causes because you know the pain is unbearable You always have to watch out and understand and

make sure that I'm good

That

that brings up another interesting question which kind of I talked about a little bit earlier

So you said, you know, your family.

So are you our only child?

Yeah, I'm one of four children and only child in my family to

have.

Yeah.

So that's kind of like where I was going.

Like does it skip?

You know what I'm saying?

Like, like, you know, how is that?

But do your other siblings have the trait?

Some have the trait and then none have have anything.

OK.

And so I want to go back to what I said about the newborn screen.

I want to make sure that I say it correctly.

They actually test for sickle cell disease.

Okay.

The trade

has to be going through the hospital and you have to ask the doctor and request for it.

And it's something called electrophoresis where they can easily just like a finger poke.

Okay.

So that's how people find out.

So how did you and your family find out that you had sickle cell and was it at an early age or?

Yeah,

it was at an early age.

So I was about two years old and I was playing across the hall from my parents.

And all of a sudden, I let out a loud scream.

And when my mother went to check on me, she noticed

my hand.

It was swollen and

puffy.

And in that moment, she had to take me to the hospital because there was no evidence of anything that

I've had

done to make my hands swell up.

And she couldn't calm me down.

And so I was taken to the hospital.

And so that's like the first signs that it's shown.

It's either hand syndrome or put syndrome.

It's a different type of word for it.

But your hands swell up or your feet swell up.

That's the cause for concern and that's usually how it shows in presents in early ages.

Okay.

Okay.

All right, we got to get ready take care of some bills, but we're gonna definitely get a Barb involved here, right?

Because you have a very very important role and It's all coming together, you know, I'm saying collective.

That's that's what we have to do

And we're going to get some great information from Barb when we return.

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we're gonna get to you and christen uh some more but uh james a lot of the people that i know and you know i'm i'm blessed that i've never been you know diagnosed with the sickle cell trait but they hate to go to the hospital but they because they had to take a lot of morphine and a lot of them say that you know well you it's addictive and so a lot of them smoke weed

I'm talking about like they smoke weed as if it's legal.

You know what

I mean?

But to them, they says that it helps them with the pain or, you know, when they're dealing with a crisis and it kind of calms them down.

Talk about that.

Do you have to take morphine?

Are you afraid of, you know, and because you've been dealing with this from childhood to now, things may have gotten a little bit better for you to be able to manage when you're having a crisis.

But.

Were you a victim of that to where it's like a morphine again morphine again, but at the same time it took away the pain

Here we go

Oh for me I Never really got feel like I was gonna become addicted if it's just something that I had to go through with having morphine the second I was out of pain I was able to cut off the

The morphine stop taking it, but I know people like that and they do deal with you mentioned smoking they do deal with it that way because It's just another therapy for them But I would say that it's not wise to smoke because of the oxygen sickle cell effects It's because of a decrease of oxygen and that's why your blood cells sickle and

so

smoking could limit that oxygen that's going to your body and it could cause other things like chest pain So I don't think it's wise to smoke

So I never was one to smoke, but I know it's something that's being studied in and has to be studied about the use of medicinal drugs.

And I think it would be wise for, you know, the oils, people

could use those,

but not smoking.

So now with where where you are after, you know, being obviously born with it and going through it, how is life for you now?

How are you able to because.

We hear that it's uncontrollable, but are there advancements in treatments or medicine that help you to cope better and could help other sickle cell anemia patients cope better?

Yeah, I'm on a medication now.

Hydroxurea that came out in 99, I believe, but just being put on that helped me to stay away from having crisis and just

able

to live a healthy, normal life because.

You know, it works on the body.

It prevents the body from having those crises.

And so it was just something that I tried, and it worked for me, thankfully.

I know other people, everybody is different.

Some people, it doesn't work.

And so they're still looking for ways to treat their pain.

But it's research out there that's being studied, gene therapy.

But unfortunately, everybody won't be able to get that.

And so we have to figure out other avenues.

And I think people have to just really learn.

It's

a learning

process every day living with sickle cell and what works what doesn't

I found

out eating the right foods eating healthy

and also drinking like

a lot of

water I consume a lot of water and Eliminate

all the

junk food the sweets for my diet, so it's bigger

if somebody was to just See you out about and you went into a severe crisis What should we as the public like as a person be like what the hell wrong with him?

What's going on with him?

What should people do or what is the reaction that people can do to try to help someone if they are going through a sickle cell crisis?

I think the first thing is to immediately just take them to the emergency room because you never know what's going on.

It's a lot of complications that can happen from sickle cell like it can cause strokes.

It can cause organ damage, tissue death, bone death.

And so it's important to just take that person immediately to the hospital so they can assess them.

What

is it what does it look like what like what should people be looking for like?

Is there a certain thing like some people you might just be screaming?

You don't understand so like what what is that?

Crisis kind of look like some people may have seen people going through actual crisis and didn't know what the hell it was,

right?

You know I'm saying

yeah Because of the pain people may grab at their arms.

They may grab at their back

or just be screaming, like you said, it's so intense and the intensity of it was the problem.

It affects the body and it's just excruciating itself.

If you see somebody bent over or hard to breathe or just grabbing at their arms, legs, or just screaming in pain, I'm having pain, then I think that's when we can address them and just take them away to the hospital or even call 911.

Okay,

Bailey?

So let's dial back a little bit because you were talking about how you changed your diet.

What's a good sort of barometer on the diet?

What's things are you eating now that you didn't eat before?

I know you said you had you're taking in more water

Yeah, a lot of few some vegetables and I cut out the fried foods.

So the chicken is baked now just a lot of fish and so I just think like

Anything that's water because the water hydrates your body and keeps sales from sticking together and that's kind of where you get those crisis because it creates blockages when the sales stick together.

And so I just think anything that's heavy in water is good for you.

Okay.

Okay.

So watermelon, cantaloupe, those kinds of

things.

Okay.

Okay.

Very good.

Very good.

Yeah.

I know people are at

They're spinning in their cars right now, because they're not in your cars, but you know what I mean.

But they're going, no fried foods, what?

I got

to have

me a piece of fried chicken.

You know what?

You

know what, y'all?

You're going to be all right.

We've got Andy on the Truth Call in lines, and maybe he has a question that you may be able to help him with, James.

Andy, great morning.

Love you.

Appreciate you.

You hear the conversation.

We are joined by Vercity here in the studio talking about the Sickle Cell Anemia Summit that will be coming up.

And what's your truth?

What's your question?

Okay.

Can you hear me?

Yes.

Okay.

Well, my truth is, first of all, Sickle Cell, it takes me back.

Well, most recently, I just lost a cousin, first cousin to sick of disease in April.

The doctor told the family he wouldn't live to be maybe 25, but he lived to be 56, able to see kids and grandkids.

And so I'm grateful for that.

Also, I worked at a hospital some years ago, and I remember this young lady would come in young lady.

about in her 20s, and she has tic-a-fail disease, and they would barely treat her, and they would say, oh, she's just a drug seeker, and that just really helped me to my heart, you know.

So I think more attention and training needs to be done to these doctors and nurses and everything to be more enlightened about what these people go through, because that was just terrible.

And also, I know a family, the lady had three boys, and all the boys had tickle cells, and they died at a young age in their 20s.

Now, is this something that's predominantly, maybe with males, more so than females?

All right, thank you for that question.

We'll have James anywhere, Kristen or Barb speak on that.

Thank you for your call.

I'm

not worried about your mortality because of having sickle cell.

No, I just live life.

I just take everything day to time.

I just I just don't even think about it.

I know they place limits on how long you live, but I don't go by that.

I go by my God.

And so I just worry about living life daily.

Mm-hmm.

But but I want to say something about that because that's what we hear.

She mentioned the stigma about going to the hospital.

And this is why some people fight and try to hold off as long as possible because it is stigma since sickle cell effects, African-Americans, people of African descent.

And we're not being treated by our own people.

We do face that heavy level of racism within the medical care.

We have

to advocate for ourselves just to get back and get

seen.

And so

it creates another added barrier to our treatment.

We are considered drug seekers.

We're considered frequent fliers, always coming into the hospital.

We're considered non-compliant and just bad patients.

And so it's definitely a misunderstanding of people with sickle cell.

And I think because of the negative images and stereotypes that they have on black people, as

a

whole, it affects people when it comes to treatment.

And so that's why we get those stigmas.

So what is that like?

And I know we gotta go to break, but what is that like real quick?

When you have a primary care doctor that understands everything and then you just go back and forth to the hospital when it's bad or how's that look?

Yeah, so I have a primary care watches the numbers watches over me prescribes the medication, but when the pain happens after work hours, you know, I have to be treated an emergency room and

And so these people are not familiar with people with

sickle cell.

And so

they run their emergency room the way they want

to run it.

And it's up to them.

The primary doctor has no say

in

how they treat you.

And so you're seeing a lot of different doctors, even the nurses have control

of

what pain medications

to give you the amount.

And so

that's what the trouble comes

in and to effect.

And so it's very hard

on a person with sickle cell.

And it's actually disheartening.

It makes people want to give up because they feel like.

If I'm in here and I'm in this pain, I'm being judged for the condition that I was born with, which I didn't choose.

And I can't do anything

about it.

And the people on the front line aren't treating me, the nurses, the doctors.

Then why should I even keep going on?

So it's the mental battle.

So before we let you go, because we know James Griffin will have to leave when we go to our break.

Why is it important for people to come to the sickle cell summit?

It's important to continue to learn about sickle cell.

People think sickle cell has gone away.

We're still dealing with the same issues.

Sickle cell is still affecting us as people, African descent.

And so it's important to get the information, get the knowledge, and you as a person can help advocate for us, because the more voices we have, the more effect change we can make together, and we're stronger together.

And so it's important to come out and just

learn and

understand about sickle cell.

And this will be for everybody.

So, you know, there are children that should be there if you have a child that has sickle cell, family members and friends that don't understand it and can look out for the signs that James has talked about.

So it's important that everybody comes out.

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Thank you, James.

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Bailey, we're black.

And we're joined by Varsity.

Yes.

All right.

So we got to bring her.

Oh, absolutely.

You know, she's got a wealth of knowledge as well.

And because I was just thinking about, you know, there's different challenges that some of the patients.

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

So have and we need to know what are some of the challenges in your line of work, Barb, that you've seen that patients and families face outside of the doctor's office.

Mm hmm.

Well, I've seen situations where.

just as any of us, utility, financial, school, employment, where a parent has to quit working to take care of their child, but there's no income coming in to supplement that.

Or if the parent has medical concerns for themselves, they have to focus on that child.

If there's multiple children in a home, school clothing.

school issues, community issues.

You know, these are barriers that the caregivers have to carry and deal with on a daily basis.

And so where I come in with that, once we come in contact, because anyone that has social determinant health needs to find resources within the community to support their

needs.

Okay.

So you're a community health worker.

So you help them.

their time of need when when things are going wrong and they can't work because they got to take care of their child That's amazing

You know there's a plan in place I've worked with children for over 30 something years.

Okay, and my last five years was within the sickle cell clinic and there's a 504 plan that

parents have, you know, they can submit to their employer, you know, making them aware that they have a child is dealing with this chronic illness.

Okay.

And so that too can be various because even the schools sometimes don't recognize the needs that the child has because they are living with sickle cell.

I was just speaking with a child parent the other day and she was sharing with me that her son feels like he's picked on and picked out because of the fact that he's living with sickle cell.

Children feel like you know, he's contagious and they can get it from him and rather than understanding that they make fun of

Wow

10 years of age you shouldn't have to deal with that.

No,

you shouldn't have to deal with that

So you work with schools to kind of let them know how to Handle somebody who's other children who may do things like that

correct education is the best resource to get anyone to come to an understanding what they're dealing

with how

How does MPS receive y'all being able to come in to talk to the children about sickle cell?

Because again, sometimes not every child really knows what it is that they're going through.

Their parents may know, but they may not really understand.

And the message that you just gave about being picked on and thinking, oh, you can get it just because you.

See them or know the child or whatever right?

Are they do they allow you to go into the schools to kind of like speak on it on different occasions just so the students can Learn and even some of the staff right you don't understand because we can all be naive to it because if it doesn't affect us then it doesn't matter

right

So how is that relationship with being able to go into any of school system to talk about it to get educate people?

Well, there are schools that allow you to come in and in my previous role where we will go in and talk with the administrators, the teachers, to bring an understanding to school nurses, to help bring an understanding to what this child is living with and dealing with.

What about the students?

The students, we have right now with Bursity, the street teams,

Cameron

White that goes into the school and speak with the teachers and the students in regards to situations and circumstances that.

they're dealing with.

Yeah, because I think that's so important because again, like I say, I can just imagine what some of the children are going through.

And then when they're going through a crisis all of a sudden, because they could come on at any time.

And then other children just be like, oh, like, you know, see, I told you, don't touch him and all of that.

The ignorance that we right in these situations.

So right, I'm happy to hear that.

I'm happy to hear that.

What are some other ways that you bridge the gap with

families and the kids.

This is like a ministry to me.

When I meet with families, I listen.

And that's very important to listen, not only to the caregiver, but to that child.

And once you gain their trust, you're able to work together and come to resolutions.

Again, like I said, it's like a ministry for me to listen and find out where I can fit in to help support them.

Okay.

In their daily

living.

Now, uh, just a reminder for people again, we have Vercity in the studio with us from the Vercity Blood Center of Wisconsin.

This sickle cell summit that we're talking about sickle cell summit 2026 is taking place on September 25th from one PM to four PM at thrive on King in the neighborhood hall.

2153 North Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

Drive and and it is free and and you need to come out to be informed if you have sick of cell it would be great for you to come out because It's a summit and you may be able to get up and tell your truth in

how hard it may have been to get your family to understand what it is.

Uh, uh, your, your husband or your wife or, you know, uh, just your, your mate, whoever it may be to better get an understanding of what it is and, and how, you know, you're going through things.

So September 25th, 1pm to 4pm at thrive on King.

It is the Vercity Blood Center of Wisconsin Sickle Cell Summit 2026.

So we want you to make sure you come out again.

It's free.

So 2153 North Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

Drive and Vercity is also located inside of the Thrive on King.

But it is important people.

We often talk about and I say this all the time of things that we don't have and they need more of this.

They need more of that.

This is a perfect chance for you to come out.

and learn the information, ask the hard questions, because that's what it's about.

That's

what it's about.

You'll have people there that can answer an array of questions or situations that you may have.

You wonder, well, where can I go to get this?

Where can I go?

And Vercity Blood Center of Wisconsin will be able to answer those questions and direct you into the right area.

kill some of those myths.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's a big thing.

Christian.

That's the thing.

Yeah, I was gonna say for you.

Yeah.

I would

just add to Homer to that is on the 25th we are asking people to RSVP.

So we

have an Eventbrite Bursity Sickle Cell Summit.

So if you go on Eventbrite, just RSVP, we're gonna have food, giveaways, all the things we just want to make sure we're tracking people.

Um, but also at the summit, our donor center, which is called versity on King will be open during that time too.

So if you want to donate,

you can

donate and then we'll also have our blood typing team there.

Okay.

So that's where you can learn your blood type in a matter of five minutes.

A lot of

people walking around don't even know their blood

type.

Yeah.

So you can learn your blood type and you can also learn if you have the RO antigen.

So the RO antigen.

So

you may be O positive, but 50% of blacks and African Americans have this RO antigen in your blood.

And that is the blood that goes to people living with sickle cell disease because it makes for the smoothest transfusion.

Okay, so at diversity on King location We try to host a lot of blood typing events because that neighborhood I mean right on MLK Drive A lot of black folks living in that neighborhood

Yeah,

we do find that there are a lot of RO donors in that specific neighborhood So we need people to come out learn your blood type potentially learn if you're a RO donor and then hopefully donate Because then we'll have that blood on site for those living with sickle cell disease.

So that's

another piece so

Oh,

because blood transfusion is really a big situation for those people who are living with sickle cell.

Yeah, they often have to come in and get a blood transfusion.

That's what it is.

Yeah.

So that's those crises that

that that blood.

And so if the hospitals don't have the blood on hand, then what do we do?

Yeah, we have to make sure we have enough blood in these hospitals that are our role for those living with sickle cell.

So, Kristen, what what's the goal for all of this?

the summit yes not only the seven but for uh versity on king

oh versity on king um we've been open now for two years okay and so before

We had a presence in these neighborhoods.

So in the Brownsville neighborhood, but it was at a school or a church.

We'd

have a

mobile blood drive.

Okay.

But then it's like, if I missed the blood drive at my church, I forgot about versity.

I forgot about blood donation.

Right.

Um, in black and brown communities, we're not really being raised to go donate blood.

You know,

it's like, I

don't trust needles.

What's going on?

So us being in this community and in this neighborhood as a fixed donor center is saying, come.

on a regular basis, come donate with us.

Don't

worry

about if you miss it at your church or your blood drive at your school or your son's school, child's school.

We're here.

Get to

know our phlebotomists.

So we host tours.

We allow students to come in and just get to see the process of donating blood.

We allow organizations to take over our donor center and maybe one person donates and then five more people get in the chair because they saw their friend, family member do it.

So just a lot of education in this building around.

Just building trust.

You know,

we're not necessarily a hospital clinic, but we are a part of health care and we do have needles and we're in a black community.

And so there's a lot of mistrust.

There's a lot of I've seen Barb.

We've been out and people like, no, mess with needles.

No, I don't do that.

And people come in with all kind of tattoos.

Right.

They mess with

some.

The goal and I would mention too, Vercity on King is the only donor center in the country of the nation inside of a community resource hub.

So

there's a lot of eyes on Vercity from a blood perspective.

you know, from Washington just to see how things go with us being in this community resource hub and what we can accomplish here.

So all right, we gotta get ready to take care of another set of bills.

You're listening to Truth in the Morning on the award-winning 1017 FM The Truth.

Pleased to be joined by Vercity.

Of course, I got some questions about the blood situation when we return.

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Welcome black truth nation

I'm the legendary Homer blow along with my girl

Bailey Coleman

and we're joined by diversity blood center of Wisconsin.

We've got from the thrive on King location.

Yes.

We've got Barb.

We've got Kristen and we had James with us earlier.

James had to leave.

Yeah.

But we good.

That's that part.

Shout out to James.

Yeah.

Stopping by

that part that part.

The sickle cell summit is coming up.

September 25th, 2026 from 1 p.m.

to 4 p.m.

at Thrive on King in the neighborhood hall 2153 North Dr. Martin Luther King Junior Drive.

Now where can they go to register because you are hoping that people will register to attend the summit?

Yep, so you could go to Eventbrite Vercity Sickle Cell Summit.

Okay, just type it in there.

It's also on Vercity Blood Center Wisconsin on our social media.

We have a flyer with the QR code.

So just scan the QR code there.

Some on YouTube wanted to know.

Versity, have you connected to the national organization and the work that happens nationally?

Yes, we have.

We have researchers, sickle cell researchers at Versity who work very closely with national and they kind of relay that information to our team.

So we don't necessarily directly on the community education side, but the researchers do.

Why again because you guys went over this before but it bears repeating why blood donation is so important

It saves lives I mean anything you can think of a tragedy shooting stabbing complications with labor cancer patients sickle cell people living with sickle cell disease

the list goes on and on.

So

it's our people.

We don't really even want to think about it.

Now, I remember being a young girl and my mom's saying to me, oh, no, because, you know, we would have this blood drive at school all

the

time.

Now, I wouldn't.

I was out in the suburbs.

I ain't gonna lie.

It was a shape, shape.

It's okay.

But she would always say, no, you need to wait if.

you know, somebody in the family needs it, then you can donate, but not this just random stuff.

Nope.

Nope.

And I never like was like, I was mad cause I wanted to do it just cause I wanted to be with my friends, right?

But I never said, well, why not?

But I think she would have probably just said, just, you know, because later on it became.

I was actually the only person that could donate to my mother.

I had to do platelets, the blood, the whole deal because she was sick.

She had cancer.

And so my siblings weren't able to because they were sick and all kinds of stuff going on.

So, you know, what's the difference between me giving then and me just giving at random?

Nothing, right?

No.

You know,

there's no difference.

Yeah,

but you know, I want to say that One pint of your blood can save three lives.

There

you go.

If you are organic tissue donor, you can save eight lives.

Wow.

Here's what I'm gonna say, right?

Here's my throat out there.

It's my throat out there.

Y'all ready?

Okay, so can you please because I believe that there are a lot of people that really get this confused.

Oh, I get blood every week.

I go to the plasma center.

Please.

Let's let's talk about it.

It's some people.

Yeah, I don't need blood.

I think twice a week or half alone.

Yeah, do it or whatever.

So please break down.

Uh-huh.

The difference between people who are at a plasma center and an actual blood center.

They show up at our diversity on King location.

Sometimes like, I want to give plasma.

How much you guys pay?

It's a totally different experience.

They're literally, you're going to a plasma center, you're getting money and they can use that plasma for makeup products, testing who knows what.

That's it.

That doesn't go to hospitals, saving lives, none of that.

When you donate blood.

We, Vercity, give blood to all the hospitals in Wisconsin.

So if you're donating in Wisconsin, your blood is saving lives in Wisconsin.

Is there still a shortage?

Oftentimes I hear about the shortage of blood donations, and it's also why I see a lot of organizations partnering with Vercity to say, hey, you can do it at my location.

You can do it at my location.

Is there a shortage?

And how important is it?

Because

You know, it's a lot of people that are getting shot in our community.

And in those victims, you know, that blood, if it's not there, what what's next?

So right now we're OK.

So

there

are times where we have like SOS is where we're like, we need blood now.

The end of the year, we start to push it because people is getting cold.

They don't want to come out as much.

People are with family vacations, things like that.

Summer can be a little difficult sometimes, too.

with the kiddos out.

So we do a lot of blood drives at high schools.

So in schools out, family vacations.

But yeah, the colder months and sometimes the summer obviously with people traveling.

But yeah, people are constantly going through something.

So I know years ago when that guy ran his car through the Brookfield parade, everybody ran to go give blood.

Right.

But

what people don't understand is that's great.

If we could get that energy all the time.

But that blood still has to be tested.

It has to go through a process.

We don't just take your blood and give it to Bailey to dark tomorrow.

You

know, so

I think people are like, how can I help?

How can I help when something bad happens?

But I try to tell people something bad is happening every day, unfortunately.

So we need that energy every day.

I'm going to yield my portion of my closing because I want Barb and you, Kristen, to kind of sum it up.

Again, the importance of what each of you do and why it's important people also come to the Sickle Cell Summit 2026.

I'd like to say that it's important for me when I'm engaging with people in the community to understand that there is a help.

You know, I tell people I don't have a magic wand, but I'm willing to work with you if you work with me.

There's needs for transportation, food, clothing, housing, employment, you know, then we're going to get you connected to those resources.

And so I am that, I am that one that's seeking out, you know, what's available, what's that I can share with the community.

My service is not just to people living with sickle cell, but it's for the community.

I am here to work with you and for you.

Chris.

I would just say education and awareness.

I think again, you know, I've been with diversity almost four years.

I knew what sickle cell kind of was, but now being in this role and just working closer with James.

It needs to be talked about, you know, beyond September.

So we're taking September to take this time.

We have several vendors that are going to be actually tabling at this event.

And when we mentioned it, we had people were coming us from all different organizations.

Can we table?

Can we meet people?

Can we talk about sickle sale?

We want to know more.

So there is the need.

And so I just want to get people educated.

I want people to learn their blood type.

I want us black and brown people to understand we need to donate, you know, we we need to start trusting.

We have phlebotomists that work at diversity on King location, who some of them live in the neighborhood.

So they're of their community, you know, they're they're trustworthy.

So we want people to just just donate and get educated.

So

Trust God do good and we'll see you tomorrow morning right here on 101 7 the truth

Welcome to Truth in the Morning on the award-winning 1017 FM.

We are broadcasting live from the American Family Insurance Studio in the heart of downtown at the Avenue.

I am the legendary Homer Blow along with my girl.

Bailey Coleman.

Great morning.

How you doing and feeling, Bailey?

I'm wonderful.

How are you, Homer?

I'm blessed.

I'm blessed, you know.

You don't learn a day.

So we got a hour full of...

special guests that will be in from Bursity in the 8 a.m.

Hour so from 8 a.m.

To 9 a.m.

On Truth in the Morning will be joined by Bursity and you know which is located inside well they have different locations but we know they're have a location inside the thrive on King building

right

so yeah we'll be talking with them there's a sickle cell summit there it's a lot of great things that

uh, versities involved in

it.

Sometimes the

community doesn't know.

So, uh, you're going to be able to find out all the information

that you need, you know, all the things this morning.

But yeah, uh, nurse are in Kawanda.

Great morning.

Love you.

Appreciate you.

Remember, you can watch us on YouTube, uh, at one on one, seven to truth.

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So, yeah Bailey you had some rain

Yeah, and I just gotta say

It

was a little windy coming in too.

Yeah,

little windy.

Well,

you know

some rain Not nice.

Not cute.

It is September 15th.

I'm

I'm I'm still believing in summertime.

A little bit Indian summer.

That's what they call

it.

So, you know, we still got to get to the 23rd.

Of September.

Yes.

Do you remember?

The 20th.

OK, air 20 fire.

I can't sing, but you know what I'm saying?

You don't remember that that's a classy.

That's just like Papa was a rolling stone It was the you know the third of September that day.

I always remember that was the day Come on these songs are classic Bailey can't act like you don't remember those dates It's so you know people listen to some of those other pop songs and they'll remember the phone

number

Don't even do it.

If you can't remember the 3rd of September, come on.

It was the 3rd of September.

Oh, now we

got it.

That day, I'll always

remember.

OK, OK.

But she was looking at me like,

what the hell are you

talking about?

I'm like,

damn.

Come on now.

I was going to say, baby.

Just me.

Come on now.

Other

people, you could go there.

Right.

I

was going to be like,

right.

That's what I'm going

like.

We know.

We know we have hosted concerts by these people.

By the way, it's the 21st night,

September.

Yeah, I know.

Do you remember?

And you

know what it

signified, right?

The baby in.

Yeah, the baby.

Yeah, I saw that on their documentary.

Oh, OK.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that part.

That was a

good documentary.

Yeah.

Yeah, absolutely.

You got to find out.

Man, listen, I really enjoy this is the part that I love about YouTube.

You

know just going in and being able to see old footage.

That's how I learned that all those vocals on earth-winded fire songs There's really just two people singing.

Yep

People don't know that it was just Maurice White and Philip Bailey.

That was it back vocals to y'all the whole deal

Yep,

they went in they did the whole deal the whole suit every album What yeah, it was just Maurice White and Philip Bailey the rest of them

They learned their parts when they got ready to go on the road.

That was it.

That was all

that part.

That part, that part, that part, you know.

Let's see here.

I want to try to send something.

So, uh, Bailey, uh, outside of that, you know, what are some things that, you know, that, that, that.

There's another what summit or something coming up that we're we're promoting

here

on the truth And I think that people need to really pay attention to these things because when I say we got to come out

You don't

understand

we find out ours is a pink and blue health summit and it's spotlighting giving out information on Breast cancer and prostate cancer

mm-hmm

now Homer I know some of you have heard me tell the story about

My family history breast

cancer,

but what you haven't heard, you know, my my sisters are still surviving and thriving, you

know

And but I lost two brothers to prostate cancer So and one of them just passed this last year this past September so one year ago, right and one year ago this month

And my other brother passed away about, what, six, seven years ago now.

And, you know, those are things that are important for people to understand.

It's important for you to get ahead of things like that.

Right.

Now, you know,

both of their, you know, their illnesses were definitely terminal.

And, um, but I will say this, that they both, one, what was crazy was one lived longer than the other because of the other ones.

Uh, because, uh, you know, people talk about the trials and all the

things.

And, you know, of course.

And I'm sure we'll learn more about that at our pink and blue health summit

exactly

And this is the information we're trying to put out there about all the entities all the things that you can or should do all information that you That could possibly help you should you get into the situation or if you're currently there right

absolutely

and one of my brothers my middle brother who Had come down or

gotten prostate cancer.

Um, he, uh, he did a bunch of trials and not only to try to help extend his life, which they did, but also, you know, his thing was, Hey, if I can help somebody else that's in the situation, you know, and he did, he's helped thousands of people.

Yeah.

And you know, different trials.

Yeah.

One main trial that he did that, uh, really, uh, my brother, when he was diagnosed, uh, he ended up living, he was stage four prostate cancer.

Actually, both of my brothers were stage four when they were diagnosed.

Um, and my brother, I think he lived an additional, I think it was about 12 years.

After a stage four, I don't know if y'all know what stage four is in stage.

Yeah, that's like there's only one stage after that right and so Yeah, he he added on to his life and was able to help even my older brother live longer by some of the medications that he He received so which proved to be helpful

my older brother his life was extended as well but you know these are the types of things we want to information we want to get out there not just for breast cancer because we're always we're always talking about that yes man get breast

cancer to

yes they do

They absolutely do get breast cancer as well.

But we also want to talk about prostate cancer.

We have men and women listening to us and your health and your life are important to us as well.

This is one thing that Shari and I came together on after I hosted Sister's Network event she day and Shari.

And I came together on this and said, this is something we need to do for our community.

Absolutely.

There's a lot of things going on.

There's a lot of walks and all this kind of stuff.

And that's great.

The more ways we can get information out there, the better.

But this is about you all and us being able to help you.

So we hope everyone will come out.

We'll talk about it more later on in the show, the date, and all the

things.

And again, it's also another very important reason why, again, shout out to Harambe and shout out to Wesker in August, the second weekend in August, when I'm a part of the health fair that they do for men, but they also have things for women as well.

But we know that...

A lot of men and I talked about this when doing it are stubborn.

Oh, yeah.

Going and get it checked

out.

Oh,

yeah.

And it's it's how a lot of them, unfortunately, by the time they do, they end up hearing the stage three stage four.

Yeah.

So

that

means that there were some things going on because you don't just jump right to stage four.

There were some things and some signs that people could have looked at that they don't.

Look at especially men.

Yeah,

I can say a lot of women.

They can get a splinter or something below.

Hold on.

My baby finger don't look right.

My pinky right

does not look right.

I'm going to make me an appointment.

Well, for everybody, early detection is the key.

Absolutely.

And so, you know, I mean, those are things we have to take in mind and we have to remember.

It's about you.

So don't.

Don't sit there and just put it off or whatever.

You know, let's come together.

Let's let's be a part of this.

And proactive.

Is

that a reactive?

Yeah.

Again, because when you get to that reactive stage, like I say, a lot of people, when they get to the reactive stage, they've almost given up on themselves.

It's like, I didn't lost the battle.

So unlike how your brothers were like, hey, OK, I want to fight.

Okay, let me go on and try these trials.

Let me,

you

know, and if it extends your life any, you feel what I'm saying?

It was worth it.

And they're able to, and when we talk about trials, people have to understand that it's like, look, your trial.

may help somebody else.

Yeah,

even if you

may in a situation like our family, help my my older brother, my middle brother, help my older brother live longer.

There you

go.

And you know, so

yeah, Anita Nicole.

Great morning.

Love you.

Appreciate you to everybody on our YouTube page

and

Anita Nicole said I've lost loved ones to cancer and some were under the age of 45 years old screening is so important.

It is.

We got to get ready.

Take care of some bills.

Don't forget coming up in the eight o'clock hour.

We'll be joined with versity and giving you talking about that important information and events that are coming up that you need to make sure you take part in.

Yeah, you don't want to miss that interview from eight to nine this morning.

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I'm the legendary home blow along with my girl Bailey

Coleman

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Bailey, there's a, you know, there's a lot of situations, people talking about the shooting of Prentice Smith and the, with the policy, the standard operating procedure, the family is allowed to see the video or they must be allowed to see the video within 48 hours.

Right.

After an interaction like that.

And it'll be made public.

Two weeks after, like in 15 days, 15 to 15 days.

So the public, we still have another week before we should be able to see that body cam footage from law enforcement.

And we know that the family, when the mother saw the video, I don't know who I was with her when she watched the body cam footage.

And she was like, nope.

You know, my son didn't have a gun out or he didn't shoot the officers.

So from what her vantage point and the family's vantage point is that it was, you know, unjustifiable.

There then attorney B ivory Lamar ended up joining the family and taking on the case.

And they're, you know, trying to make sure that justice is served or it was, you know,

fair.

It was a clean, you know, response by Milwaukee law enforcement.

So we now have a situation where the police association, I believe, get a Yala, I believe.

Yeah.

So he is saying the Milwaukee Police Union, he has a difference of opinion and a different viewpoint.

And we're gonna play that because it says Milwaukee police union and family attorney disagree after watching body camera Video of the deadly shooting now be ivory Lamar in this clip.

You'll hear him say that he hasn't seen the video So he's going

by the

family mother has seen and heard feel unlike nope Nah, something's not right.

Something's not right.

So we're gonna play this clip from W is in 12

And we want to talk about it and

get

your thoughts and your truth on it.

Because again, we know that there's a lot of tension between law enforcement and people in the community.

And it's not just here.

It's a lot of other places as well.

Right.

So Xavier, great morning.

Love you.

Appreciate you.

If you had that clip queued up, we can run that clip.

And in Truth Nation, we need to talk about it.

Get your thoughts.

Bring interpretations of what actually happened during last Tuesday's deadly police shooting now coming to light.

The family of Princess Smith questions if their son even fired the gun that police say was in his hand during the deadly encounter in the Metcalf Park neighborhood while the president of the police union remains fully convinced that his officers actions were justified.

12 News Maddie Augustine is one on one with both tonight.

Days after a Milwaukee police officer shot and killed 23-year-old Prentice Smith near 37th and Minakie, the president of the police union and Smith's parents at odds.

The feelings and emotions from what they saw was described as being an execution.

That's what they described it as

being.

The family saw the same video that we did today and that video clearly shows the opposite.

Milwaukee Police Association President Alexander Ayala says his officer is being falsely accused and the body camera video of the deadly incident is clear.

Ayala says officers were in pursuit of the vehicle Smith was in on September 8th.

Then Ayala says Smith ran off and officers followed.

When the officer gives commands, the suspect does not acknowledge those commands instead.

turns around, makes eye contact with the officer.

I mean, that's, you know, that's target accusation right there.

The officer grabs them, and then that's where the fighting suits.

And then you see a few seconds later, what you'll see is going to be the suspect holding a gun with his finger and the trigger pulled all the way back.

at

the scene last week.

Police Chief Jeffrey Norman said the video showed Smith appear to fire.

Did the suspect fire his gun and or did he pointed at the officer?

We believe it's suspect fires gun.

Be ivory Lamar, the Smith family's attorney has not seen the video himself, only relaying what Smith's parents have told him.

Acknowledging Smith did have a gun in his hand, but questions if deadly force was justified and if Smith ever fired his weapon.

If the officer.

that he was shot in the leg.

I want to know that that bullet come from the firearm of Princess or was that bullet self inflicted

that suspect shot my officer in the leg and there's a video that obviously shows that

Lamar says they're calling for the video to be released immediately.

This family wants transparency.

They want the facts and they just want the truth to come out.

You know if the.

shooting was justified, it is what it is.

Certainly an interesting back and forth there.

Maddie joins us live from the newsroom.

Maddie, department policy requires MPD to release body camera videos from critical incidents like this over the 15 days.

Do we know if that video will be released before next week?

Blake, we asked police that but MPD only saying in response that they would release the video according to their standard operating procedure.

So it could still be about a week before we get to see that video.

Alright, Maddie Augustine.

Alright, so.

Bailey you heard their information and the disagreement What do you think?

I think she's a grieving mother and I think I would You know I Understand you know when parents see their kids they see the sweet kid No, no matter how old they get mm-hmm.

They see the baby

Oh, yeah.

Your baby even had a gun in his hand and that alone is a threat.

You know, that alone is a threat to a police officer.

Unfortunately, and that's that's that's it, Homer.

I mean, I understand how she feels.

I mean, I get it.

Right.

Because.

You don't never want nothing to happen, especially to your child.

You know, but.

You know.

Even just have having him having a gun in his hand could put him in jeopardy.

Right.

It's not just with the police.

It could put him in jeopardy with anybody.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You know, and that's that's the thing we have to take into consideration.

But I mean.

I feel for her, I really do, because you don't want your baby.

Your kids are not supposed to pass away before you do, but always remember, we put ourselves in situations.

We are, as parents, I hope we're a good example for our kids.

At least be okay, you know what I mean?

But he out here in a bad area,

And it looks like he might have.

I don't know, but I know he had a gun in his hand and that didn't look good.

Everybody agrees on that one fact.

I don't know about the rest.

I don't know who shot what or

right.

I don't know.

We just have to wait and see what, you know, when it comes how it comes out.

Yeah.

And on our YouTube page, Eunice said it's time for them to release a video to the public.

That's the only way we're really going to know what happened.

And.

Units to that and to a lot of people who may feel exactly that same.

There's a

standard operating procedure.

It's just like, you know, and I know that and it's not only when someone may lose their life.

It's a lot of times that people question how law enforcement.

I don't think it was this, even if the person wasn't fatally wounded.

Right.

But in so many other instances, nah, we want to see the video.

They have a standard operating procedure.

Yeah,

it's the same way that with anything else in life You feel like you want your day in court.

You feel like you want this You know, you don't want to rush the judgment and be like blam blam blam So when there are policies in place and that's even that wherever you work at.

Yeah, there's

certain policies that are in place and I understand we may want it to be expedited now you want to be like forget that Show me now.

It's like nope.

That's not how it works.

So

We have to deal with the process of what it

is

because they shorten the time.

Yeah, it's not even that long now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's much longer.

I mean, they used to didn't even have to put it out there.

Right.

Absolutely.

So I mean, now it's what, two weeks or something like that.

15 days.

15 days.

So I mean, it's not that long.

They'll put it out.

Right.

Absolutely.

And they have been.

They have been.

You know, they have been.

They've been following that.

But again, another thing that

Also, you know, change during the standard operating procedure is the time that the victims parents or, you know, immediate family would get a chance to see the video with or without an attorney.

Yeah.

So that changed to 48 hours.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, yeah, it's right away.

Right.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

And so I just need people to understand when we talking about release it right away.

You still got to remember.

Especially with law enforcement.

It's an ongoing investigation.

Yeah,

sometimes even at your job.

Yeah,

it's like, okay, well, we got to investigate to see if this really happened.

Now they got to go talk to different people.

Yeah,

some that work with you.

Some in the upper management or whatever.

Yeah, they got to do all those things before they can say, okay, we've done our investigation.

Here it is.

Yeah.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, you still fired

or you know what I'm saying, right?

Whatever it is,

good, bad or indifferent.

Yeah, you need to reinstate them to their position that you find out after the process.

We know we're anxious.

We want to

see it.

We.

Oh, I need to see it right now, but we still have to follow the process and the policy that is there.

It has been amended.

So I think people should also.

be happy about that.

Yeah, that it's at least amended because it wasn't that before.

Right.

It wasn't that.

So, you know, that's why I'm saying, you know, we get it.

Like I said, we get the fact that if you are the immediate family and your friends of and all of that for you, I need it now.

We in this microwave society

and

this get it now society.

Everybody,

I want to get it now.

I want to, you

know, and it's like sometimes.

you can end up coming up to the wrong conclusion.

Yeah.

It's like, again, the unfortunate, and I'm not saying this situation will be that, but the situation on Mill Road, when it was a road rage incident.

Yeah.

And the family and other people, all the social media, especially here was like, ah, he didn't have no, he didn't have no.

And then when it was time for them to

Release it in 48 hours for the mother and the family

to

see it.

Right.

They ended up So this is why I say, you know, we we definitely want to make sure that we understand that I know we're we're we're blood thirsty.

We're hungry We are now now that it that's not how it works.

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Before we went to break, we were talking about the difference of opinion between the Milwaukee Police Union's President, Alexander Yala, and the family, and the family's attorney, B. Ivory Lamar, of Prentice Smith, who was the young man that was killed on 37th and right or monarchy.

It was after a pursuit and there was obviously he was found with a weapon, two weapons on him, allegedly one he had in his hand, one he had in his waistband.

And there was a third gun found in the vehicle.

But now there

were two suspects.

One got away, but law enforcement appears to know who they're looking for from what they said in the media and on, you know, TV or whatnot.

So.

I haven't heard any updates if he if he's been apprehended as of yet.

But so we can't, you know, because of the one in the car, they were both in the car.

So we can't say if that third weapon was something that was in the possession of Prince Smith or not.

Did they did they catch the other guy?

Not yet.

That's what I was

just talking

about.

Yeah, that's to my knowledge.

I haven't heard.

And I

would think that.

Uh, when they did catch that person

and it

would

be news, you know what

I'm saying?

It would be breaking news.

The second person has been apprehended or something, but I haven't heard or seen any updates in that area.

So I have to take it for now as if they don't have that person in custody and with such a high profile situation like this, I think that they would want to let us know right away.

Like, okay, we got the other person.

Right.

We got the other person.

So yeah, but uh, eight, three, three, two, one, two, 10, 17.

Uh, what's your truth when it comes to the situation?

I know we get antsy.

Like I say, we want to see it now.

We want to see it now.

We want to see it now.

We don't want to follow the process.

Right.

Well, I mean, the process is fine.

It doesn't take that long.

It's okay.

Yeah.

But still some people are saying, like I say, no, I still should be right now.

Oh, but we're saying that it's

I think it's a fair process.

Yeah, I think

it's

fair.

Especially

$48 for the parents.

Yeah.

And then and then 15 days for us.

Yeah, I think that's fine.

Mm hmm.

I think that's fine.

That's fair.

Mm hmm.

Absolutely.

That's

fair.

Yeah.

So yeah, so I don't know.

I just want

Whatever the situation is I want to give it the time to to play out and I'm saying this Bailey when I talk about these things I Want people to know and I can only speak for myself that if I was the the victim of a situation like this I would still want the process to play out the way it's

supposed to play out I guess yeah, I guess one irritant to me would be the

What's his name from the association of police?

Ayala Alexander I

Kind of be like yo, bro.

Mm-hmm.

Just like the police department.

Do you I understand you're whatever but chill I wouldn't want to hear from him, you know, yeah,

I get it But I think it's

his he's the only one out there defending the police officers I get the whole yeah, I get the whole deal and that's pretty much what they're paying for but he's kind of

Well, you know, you

know, I think I think Bailey, it's like anybody that has really had any kind of situation where there could be a lawsuit or it could be a trial.

You are on trial for something or you've been arrested for something.

And as much as you want to end up saying the truth of what, you know, no.

What is the first thing a great lawyer is going to tell you?

Don't talk about the case.

Yeah,

don't talk about don't go do no interviews.

Don't

go because again, some people don't realize and they don't respect the fact of when they say anything you say can and this the big word will be used against you in the court of law.

So you out there, cause you want to get your side out and you want to tell what you want to tell.

And now all of that can be used against you.

And now people telling you, uh, you should take that post now, but you up there on the post talking about, yeah, and I take out any of them and you know, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, you making threats against law enforcement or other people.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You probably, you probably didn't want to put that post up.

because that post can come back and give probable cause and motive.

Yeah, well, you should always look out for what you say and what you don't say online, no matter who you are.

But do that, Bailey.

No, some of y'all just be putting the whole King Kaboodle out.

Right.

And be the whole thing.

Whether it makes sense or not.

I

synced it.

Yeah.

Those people.

Yeah.

And then when they had to go black track

and I didn't see nothing.

I don't remember nothing like that.

I don't recall.

So yeah, we, yeah, we have to, we have to really be mindful, you know what I'm

saying?

Because

you can put yourself where you're going to get a visit.

You're going to get a visit.

You're like, oh, so you have information?

Right.

We

need to highlight you.

Right.

Oh, no, no, no, my cousin, my, my, my

cousin is

the one that he, he the one she

told me.

Yeah.

Now a person that doesn't stutter, stutter, stutter.

Stuttering

Stanley, stuttering Stanley.

I mean.

That all of that goes for what's his name, too?

I just don't feel like I feel like he irritates the situation when he come up starting to talk about all that and I'm like, you know what you know, you got a little inside track or whatever, but you need to chill.

Let the let you may be representing the officers, but you're not representing the department and it would be better and less irritating for the community.

and less agitating for the family, because that family seemed like they're ready to go at it now, right?

And it would be less agitating for them if he didn't do that.

Just be quiet.

Yeah.

Well, again, I think it's just the human nature of it all, Bailey.

That's why I think the debt comes out.

The same way that other people should probably not be saying anything, but when you are being battered, when you are being pummeled,

by the public opinion, you get what I'm saying?

So when you're being

battered, sometimes you want to do that all the time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I'm just saying that he's not, you know, he's the union.

You get what I'm saying?

That's

opposed to so I can understand if I'm being battered, even though the lawyer has said, don't say nothing, right?

Man, they, they, they, they, they chair me apart out here.

I get it.

But you can't say nothing.

Don't say nothing.

Man, man, I'm telling you now, if I see some more, well, a couple more things, man, I don't know, man, I'm happy to get my opinion be heard.

So I think that, you know, sometimes that thing can happen.

And especially for him, you know, the whole law enforcement is his family.

You're going to say

it.

So it's like,

OK, y'all family saying this, OK, my family, I'm going to represent for my family and say this.

But in the end.

We'll all get to see and the good thing about when we get to see it as the public, uh, like I say, we got another week or so, uh, or less than that we'll be able to see it.

And I like the fact that they slow it down.

They draw circles around what you're seeing they describe what you were seeing so you'll be able to say oh Okay, cuz that's what they did in that other case

right

on Mill Road

You know

they were able to say like if you watch this and then you'll hear sometimes they actually Narrate the footage

right too so you

can pay attention be like oh well I see I didn't see that before you know what I mean,

so

so we just got to let the process go and I know condolences

To all the family and friends of Princess Smith because nobody wants to have to go through something like this You know it's a tragedy all around the board and I think Not just you know to try to justify one way or another But you got to think of what those law enforcement officers to also have to deal with I

don't

think that

You know, we know that there are some quote unquote rogue law enforcement, right?

But I don't think that a lot of these officers go out here.

I can't.

I'm going to just kill somebody today.

I'm I'm going to use, you know, deadly force because of the situation.

So they got it.

They going through some things, too,

in my

opinion.

You

know, but it's like the hell of what y'all going through.

What about you?

You know what I'm

saying?

So

we have to, you know, I try to have a open view.

on the things and I'm like okay yes even though this person hit in my hit uh my daughter's car and caused her injuries or whatnot if it was truly a situation after an investigation found out that she was negligent

right

you know so as much as I want to hate you would be mad

at you

right

Yeah,

you

probably going through some things

too because

if somebody was to lose a life or just lose a limb or something like that, you know, it can mess with your mental too.

And

they got to deal with a lot.

Yeah,

they got to deal with every shooting that we hear about.

Yeah.

That's why I salute the law enforcement, the firefighters, the EMTs, because they got to be right there.

They got to sit there and work with these bodies that they know.

They're not getting any sign of life, but here they are for 40 minutes, 45 minutes, still doing CPR.

Right.

Even though you may have seen pupils dilate it, you go, you know what I'm

saying?

Eyes

fixed.

But you're still trying.

Yeah.

And now you've got to go home and eat dinner.

Right.

And try not to take that home with you.

Right.

In my opinion, it's impossible.

Yeah,

we got to get ready to take care of some bills.

Don't forget coming up at eight a.m.

We will be joined by Vercity and there is a sickle cell summit that is coming up and we're going to make sure that you got all of the information that you need because we got all the right people daily.

Yes,

that will be able to tell you why this sickle cell summit is so important.

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What's the address to Thrive on King?

Homer, you got the address.

Yeah, let me out.

Enjoying grapes that you gave

me.

Oh my bad

Bailey be bringing fruits.

Yeah, the grapes was like nah

Put the gavel up because I know Bailey just I knew it was gonna be a

moment

Yeah, Bailey always on the moment.

Let's see.

Hang on.

Pull that up.

But abstract nor 414 says so they were involved.

Oh, hang on.

Failure to communicate said that's the power of a union.

Yeah,

something many of us no longer have.

Yeah.

And that's true.

That's

that's true.

That's true.

Yeah.

And again, you want your which is what I was speaking on.

Uh, when I say that, uh, it's 21 53 North Dr MLK Jr.

Drive.

That's drive on King.

Okay.

Uh, 21 53 North Dr Martin Luther King Jr.

Drive here in Milwaukee.

Okay.

Uh, but yeah.

So the, the whole thing with that is you want your time, right?

If you felt like you were, um, terminated and it wasn't, you know, right or whatever.

And you got a grievance or whatever, you know, you got.

It's a process.

They and they have to, you know, deal with that process.

You think you deserve unemployment or whatever.

There's a process.

There's things you got to do.

If you have insurance, whatever the case may be.

So

I don't mind the process.

But what I'm saying is everybody wants the north side or our people to stop being so agitated with all these things.

But when you have an agitator out there, agitating the situation.

Such

as what's his name Ayala

Alexander Ayala

when you have somebody out there

Union

agitating the situation You know and that's what it is.

Yeah, but he's trying to state his facts.

Yeah, or whatever

But

what he believes to be the facts,

right?

But I

understand is agitation on both ends.

It's just like when law enforcement

is trying to see thousands of people to chill out

Well, this is going on and the process is unfolding and you said that they're going to chill out, but I'm going to agitate you.

Chill out, but I'm going to agitate you.

Yeah.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, but I'm and I'll agree to disagree.

I'm just we're looking at it at different vantage points.

In my opinion, again, you can't keep throwing rocks at me.

And when I pick up a rock and throw it black.

No,

that's you trying to get your give

back.

Yeah, you're throwing a rock, but

again trying to get your get back by throwing a rock back.

Okay, but you've been bombarded with rocks.

You know what I'm saying?

So if you're being pelted, that's all I'm saying is I understand that even though in in law and I get it

You still supposed to just try to keep your composure.

Don't you know, do like the chief did the chief.

Like I can't speak on all that because Wabatosa is in charge

and so I don't get the but that's what he said.

But no, no, he but he did say the things he said when they asked him the questions, he said that yeah, I did.

And even those things, some people would look at his like, oh, no, you wouldn't even say that.

You know what I'm saying?

So I get it, but you're not going to attack.

I'm not going to let somebody attack you or you let somebody attack me without saying, hold on.

Y'all don't even understand the character of Bailey.

Y'all don't understand the character of Humber Blow.

And what y'all not going to do is just keep on saying, yeah, but

he,

he,

he, he,

he.

And it's like, you know what?

Hold on, what we not going to do.

You understand?

That was there again.

Okay.

I'm sitting there going.

What what is different here?

You know what's going on, right?

Yeah, yeah, so but we got Al Mke Al Mke great morning.

Love you appreciate you.

You're the conversation.

What's your truth now?

Well, first thing I'm gonna say it's gotta remember you're black.

Yeah, that part

not to push it.

Don't put yourself in unnecessary situation.

That's true.

You still got to remember you're still black.

Yeah.

You got to remember if you have a gun or not, you're still guilty.

Yeah.

And remember you're still black.

Yeah.

Okay.

I like

people to remember this.

But I need to ask you a general question for you and Bailey.

It might be controversial.

I was just I was discussing something with some of my people and they feel that ninjas will be the downfall of the north side.

How do you feel about

that?

Okay, I'm sorry.

I had to get one in there.

What's your truth on that?

I just said, you know, it is what it is.

Here we

are.

Here we

are.

From 20th in capital, from both the gas stations, you got derelicts.

If you go to Akas, all the way to Akasing, you got trash.

If you go up Akasing, you got the prostitute nickel horse.

from the south side who claim they're on this side of town now and black people really have no voice and black people a lot of black people who work real hard seeing they're tired of the ninjas but everybody has a heart of sin they have nowhere to go but why do you care where they go so that's why i was asking you do you feel the ninjas will be the downfall

because

no money is coming to the

north side

Just say, you know, when I first makes

out, we'll let

you

know.

Thanks.

When I first moved here, you know, you could tell I was from the West Coast, clearly, California plates and all, but actually from Washington state.

But I when I first moved here, I wanted to be closer to my people.

I was living out in West Dallas.

I said, I need to see some of my

people.

And then when I moved to the north side, I said, you know, I still love my people.

But what?

Let me just move a little

bit.

You know what?

It's time to get ready to get ready for, I guess.

Leave it to Shea Shae Foo Foo.

Leave

it.

I'm still on the north side because I love my people,

though.

I am.

Yeah.

I'm just not, you know, in the teens or 20.

We got it.

You ain't on the low end, you on the high end.

I love y'all though, I do.

Just stay over, I'm sorry.

Stay over by Homer.

Okay.

What?

Listen, one week up like next hour, we will be joined by our guest, Vercity.

But you know what I'm saying, we know that it's two sides to every story.

That's why it's important that the video come out.

I'm not going.

Automatically believe either side and I know but we got to still wait for the process.

You know Sam.

That's the only thing I'm

saying units failure to communicate said as I recall when the police officer Kindel quarter was murdered and the other officer was critically injured didn't have no problem with Ayala then I'm just saying so

So we got necessarily true.

I did I did I what we weren't doing this show though So, I mean where was I gonna express it at?

We got to get ready, take care of some bills and we'll be joined by guests.

You know, we may have to pick up on this

tomorrow.

You know, I mean, that's those are facts.

I just feel like he needed to.

That's it.

All right.

Well, let's take care of these bills.

We'll be black.

Truth in the morning returns after this on 1017 the truth, the truth app and streaming live on 1017, the truth on YouTube.

1017 the truth is truth in the morning with Homer blow and Bailey Coleman And we have special guests in studio with us this morning from versity.

We've got Kristen Harris.

I said that right, right?

All right.

Oh, is your mic on?

Okay, we got you guys.

Press on.

Okay.

Right.

Kristen Harris.

Barbara Bell and James Griffin.

Good morning, everybody.

Good morning, guys.

So you all have a summit coming up.

We do.

We have a sickle cell summit coming up at the end of the month next Friday, the 25th at Thrive on King from one to four.

So September sickle cell awareness month.

In the word out.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

So sickle cell.

Mm hmm.

is something that affects mostly people of color, right?

Correct.

Oh, no, you got to scoot into your mic.

We got to get that voice on.

I can tell.

That's a beautiful voice.

There we go.

Okay, well, I repeat what you said.

Brown and

black

people.

Brown and black people.

So how did we get the pleasure of being the majority in this particular disease?

Well, yeah,

it's passed down through trait, but coming from African being African descended Malaria the higher presence of malaria sickle cell having that trait gene protect the people from getting malaria So it was beneficial over there, but in the US where we don't have a higher prevalence of malaria then When you get two parents together two people together who have that gene is passed down to a child and that's how we ended up with it.

So

Rooted back to history.

So do both parents have to have the gene in order for the child to get it?

They do and every pregnancy is a 25% chance if both parents have the sickle cell gene that a child will have sickle cell

Okay, so is it possible for one parent just to have the gene and the child get it?

No both both parents have to get it because each parent passes on a set of genes and that makes up sickle cell Wow parents pass it down.

Okay

Okay, very interesting.

So

you may have heard of it as sickle cell trait.

Right.

Yeah.

So that's the gene that he's talking about.

Okay.

So both parents have that sickle cell trait.

That's past.

Yeah.

Okay.

And one of the things with that when I know so many people that are living with sickle cell and know a lot of people who passed away from sickle cell and in knowing that and knowing how, how that works, is it

Familiar like some diseases that people may have where you can be like you could have the trait but not necessarily pass it on No, you have to have that trait gene to pass it on But I'm saying are there some people that are born that even though their parents may have it but they don't end up showing signs of having the sickle cell trait

Oh, yeah, that's that's true.

Yeah, that's that's that's where I was going because I know a lot of people like what my baby don't have it, right?

You don't understand they get tested How soon should people get tested?

Is it something that you can find right away?

Or is it something that?

After you continue to grow then you kind of learn that oh something isn't feeling right

yet No, the best practice is to get it tested when a baby is born.

So newborn screening

It's on the registry list now, so every baby born here in Wisconsin will get tested and screened for a sickle cell trait.

Okay.

Christian, for someone who has heard of sickle cell disease but doesn't know much about it, why is this again an important community health conversation?

And we need people to come out because oftentimes people hear certain things about different summits or health fairs and

they don't end up attending

right

like they should.

But yet they got family members and friends that may be battling with sickle cell.

So yeah.

And how would you describe that for somebody who hasn't heard about it and doesn't know much about it and why it's so important to have a conversation?

Yeah, I think for us at VersaD, you know, September, I said a sickle cell awareness month,

but

it's a disease that isn't talked about a lot.

You don't see commercials.

You don't see

TV shows around it.

You don't see billboards, all the things that you may see for another disease, which is sickle cell is just as important to highlight.

So adversity, we are a blood center.

So sickle cell is a blood disorder, blood disease.

So we're taking it upon ourselves to have a sickle cell summit.

Where we're going to educate not only just community members,

but

those living with sickle cell clinical Doctors nurses who work with those living with sickle cell the caregivers for people who are taking care of those living with sickle cell because that's a toll too and just talk about the overall disease we're gonna have some of our Researchers that are doing the research around sickle cell disease from versity will have some doctors who actually treat those living with sickle cell disease from children's speaking about

their experience and what they see in the clinics.

And then we'll also have some sickle cell warriors, people living with sickle cell that'll be speaking on the panel to talk about their experience.

So how does sickle cell affect family and friends?

That's a loaded question.

I can let James.

Well, just living with sickle cell disease, it affects the family because it's something that the child is always in pain or may have daily pain or go through pain.

And so.

those parents have to take care of that child and take their child to the hospital and people don't understand the amount of effort it takes to take care of a child with sickle cell and the parents usually have to end up not working because the child has either chronic pain all the time or it's just constantly up and down and in and out of pain and so it makes it hard for a parent to work.

Growing up my mother had to quit her job just so she could take care of me because as a

child I was in

the hospital so much.

Wow.

It was a monthly thing and so

you know, it makes it hard to work and affects the whole parent.

What is a pain like for someone living with sickle cell disease?

What kind of pain is it?

It's excruciating.

So I don't know if you've ever jammed your hand in a door or not.

I could just kind of compare it to that.

The intensity of it is much more greater and on a greater scale.

So to me, it feels like my body's being squeezed in a vice grip or just being hit with like a baseball bat.

It's just that painful that

You can't do anything about it, but take pain medications

like

morphine and hope that works.

If

not, then

you go to the hospital and they give you

more

pain medication and IV fluids.

Okay.

And we, uh, and for those who are listening again, we're joined by versity and James Griffin, the brother that we are speaking with, uh, he's living with sickle cell disease since childhood.

So it's.

Great to have somebody in here that can really talk about what those crisis are, are like, because he lives it.

Right.

Um, how, you know, to know that you're with adversity, like today, what would happen right now if you were to go into a crisis?

What, what, what, what is that real life, real time?

Because I know some people, as you were saying that every moment of the day, sometimes.

It's a challenge, but we see some of these people and they be at work and it's like you having a crisis, but you know, but you still working so Talk about that part because there's a lot of people trust me that I know that are living with sickle cell like you

Yeah, over time you learn how to manage it.

So it's different pain levels.

So if you can have pain every day, but some pain is just Not a variable.

Yeah, it's not as string with us other pain is so

it can come on gradually and then just snowball into an effect where one minute you can be fine and then something can trigger

it like a cold weather or just

humidity or just even like strenuous workouts so

that can come

on and that can lead you to have to have more pain and then you know that's when it gets intense and you have to do something about it and you leave work and you know go get treated.

What types of challenges?

Have you faced living with sickle cell in your family?

What what challenges has that caused for them?

I would just say just being the only one living with sickle cell in my family Just feeling like I was alone But I've always had to support of my family and so they had to either start what they were doing to check on me help me out Give me to the hospital pick up prescriptions.

I need it

So it's it affects the whole family and that's something that people don't understand about the disease It's

not just like it's one

person me going through it.

It's a whole family because it creates You know a lot of attention that

sickle cell

causes because you know the pain is unbearable You always have to watch out and understand and

make sure that I'm good

That

that brings up another interesting question which kind of I talked about a little bit earlier

So you said, you know, your family.

So are you our only child?

Yeah, I'm one of four children and only child in my family to

have.

Yeah.

So that's kind of like where I was going.

Like does it skip?

You know what I'm saying?

Like, like, you know, how is that?

But do your other siblings have the trait?

Some have the trait and then none have have anything.

OK.

And so I want to go back to what I said about the newborn screen.

I want to make sure that I say it correctly.

They actually test for sickle cell disease.

Okay.

The trade

has to be going through the hospital and you have to ask the doctor and request for it.

And it's something called electrophoresis where they can easily just like a finger poke.

Okay.

So that's how people find out.

So how did you and your family find out that you had sickle cell and was it at an early age or?

Yeah,

it was at an early age.

So I was about two years old and I was playing across the hall from my parents.

And all of a sudden, I let out a loud scream.

And when my mother went to check on me, she noticed

my hand.

It was swollen and

puffy.

And in that moment, she had to take me to the hospital because there was no evidence of anything that

I've had

done to make my hands swell up.

And she couldn't calm me down.

And so I was taken to the hospital.

And so that's like the first signs that it's shown.

It's either hand syndrome or put syndrome.

It's a different type of word for it.

But your hands swell up or your feet swell up.

That's the cause for concern and that's usually how it shows in presents in early ages.

Okay.

Okay.

All right, we got to get ready take care of some bills, but we're gonna definitely get a Barb involved here, right?

Because you have a very very important role and It's all coming together, you know, I'm saying collective.

That's that's what we have to do

And we're going to get some great information from Barb when we return.

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we're gonna get to you and christen uh some more but uh james a lot of the people that i know and you know i'm i'm blessed that i've never been you know diagnosed with the sickle cell trait but they hate to go to the hospital but they because they had to take a lot of morphine and a lot of them say that you know well you it's addictive and so a lot of them smoke weed

I'm talking about like they smoke weed as if it's legal.

You know what

I mean?

But to them, they says that it helps them with the pain or, you know, when they're dealing with a crisis and it kind of calms them down.

Talk about that.

Do you have to take morphine?

Are you afraid of, you know, and because you've been dealing with this from childhood to now, things may have gotten a little bit better for you to be able to manage when you're having a crisis.

But.

Were you a victim of that to where it's like a morphine again morphine again, but at the same time it took away the pain

Here we go

Oh for me I Never really got feel like I was gonna become addicted if it's just something that I had to go through with having morphine the second I was out of pain I was able to cut off the

The morphine stop taking it, but I know people like that and they do deal with you mentioned smoking they do deal with it that way because It's just another therapy for them But I would say that it's not wise to smoke because of the oxygen sickle cell effects It's because of a decrease of oxygen and that's why your blood cells sickle and

so

smoking could limit that oxygen that's going to your body and it could cause other things like chest pain So I don't think it's wise to smoke

So I never was one to smoke, but I know it's something that's being studied in and has to be studied about the use of medicinal drugs.

And I think it would be wise for, you know, the oils, people

could use those,

but not smoking.

So now with where where you are after, you know, being obviously born with it and going through it, how is life for you now?

How are you able to because.

We hear that it's uncontrollable, but are there advancements in treatments or medicine that help you to cope better and could help other sickle cell anemia patients cope better?

Yeah, I'm on a medication now.

Hydroxurea that came out in 99, I believe, but just being put on that helped me to stay away from having crisis and just

able

to live a healthy, normal life because.

You know, it works on the body.

It prevents the body from having those crises.

And so it was just something that I tried, and it worked for me, thankfully.

I know other people, everybody is different.

Some people, it doesn't work.

And so they're still looking for ways to treat their pain.

But it's research out there that's being studied, gene therapy.

But unfortunately, everybody won't be able to get that.

And so we have to figure out other avenues.

And I think people have to just really learn.

It's

a learning

process every day living with sickle cell and what works what doesn't

I found

out eating the right foods eating healthy

and also drinking like

a lot of

water I consume a lot of water and Eliminate

all the

junk food the sweets for my diet, so it's bigger

if somebody was to just See you out about and you went into a severe crisis What should we as the public like as a person be like what the hell wrong with him?

What's going on with him?

What should people do or what is the reaction that people can do to try to help someone if they are going through a sickle cell crisis?

I think the first thing is to immediately just take them to the emergency room because you never know what's going on.

It's a lot of complications that can happen from sickle cell like it can cause strokes.

It can cause organ damage, tissue death, bone death.

And so it's important to just take that person immediately to the hospital so they can assess them.

What

is it what does it look like what like what should people be looking for like?

Is there a certain thing like some people you might just be screaming?

You don't understand so like what what is that?

Crisis kind of look like some people may have seen people going through actual crisis and didn't know what the hell it was,

right?

You know I'm saying

yeah Because of the pain people may grab at their arms.

They may grab at their back

or just be screaming, like you said, it's so intense and the intensity of it was the problem.

It affects the body and it's just excruciating itself.

If you see somebody bent over or hard to breathe or just grabbing at their arms, legs, or just screaming in pain, I'm having pain, then I think that's when we can address them and just take them away to the hospital or even call 911.

Okay,

Bailey?

So let's dial back a little bit because you were talking about how you changed your diet.

What's a good sort of barometer on the diet?

What's things are you eating now that you didn't eat before?

I know you said you had you're taking in more water

Yeah, a lot of few some vegetables and I cut out the fried foods.

So the chicken is baked now just a lot of fish and so I just think like

Anything that's water because the water hydrates your body and keeps sales from sticking together and that's kind of where you get those crisis because it creates blockages when the sales stick together.

And so I just think anything that's heavy in water is good for you.

Okay.

Okay.

So watermelon, cantaloupe, those kinds of

things.

Okay.

Okay.

Very good.

Very good.

Yeah.

I know people are at

They're spinning in their cars right now, because they're not in your cars, but you know what I mean.

But they're going, no fried foods, what?

I got

to have

me a piece of fried chicken.

You know what?

You

know what, y'all?

You're going to be all right.

We've got Andy on the Truth Call in lines, and maybe he has a question that you may be able to help him with, James.

Andy, great morning.

Love you.

Appreciate you.

You hear the conversation.

We are joined by Vercity here in the studio talking about the Sickle Cell Anemia Summit that will be coming up.

And what's your truth?

What's your question?

Okay.

Can you hear me?

Yes.

Okay.

Well, my truth is, first of all, Sickle Cell, it takes me back.

Well, most recently, I just lost a cousin, first cousin to sick of disease in April.

The doctor told the family he wouldn't live to be maybe 25, but he lived to be 56, able to see kids and grandkids.

And so I'm grateful for that.

Also, I worked at a hospital some years ago, and I remember this young lady would come in young lady.

about in her 20s, and she has tic-a-fail disease, and they would barely treat her, and they would say, oh, she's just a drug seeker, and that just really helped me to my heart, you know.

So I think more attention and training needs to be done to these doctors and nurses and everything to be more enlightened about what these people go through, because that was just terrible.

And also, I know a family, the lady had three boys, and all the boys had tickle cells, and they died at a young age in their 20s.

Now, is this something that's predominantly, maybe with males, more so than females?

All right, thank you for that question.

We'll have James anywhere, Kristen or Barb speak on that.

Thank you for your call.

I'm

not worried about your mortality because of having sickle cell.

No, I just live life.

I just take everything day to time.

I just I just don't even think about it.

I know they place limits on how long you live, but I don't go by that.

I go by my God.

And so I just worry about living life daily.

Mm-hmm.

But but I want to say something about that because that's what we hear.

She mentioned the stigma about going to the hospital.

And this is why some people fight and try to hold off as long as possible because it is stigma since sickle cell effects, African-Americans, people of African descent.

And we're not being treated by our own people.

We do face that heavy level of racism within the medical care.

We have

to advocate for ourselves just to get back and get

seen.

And so

it creates another added barrier to our treatment.

We are considered drug seekers.

We're considered frequent fliers, always coming into the hospital.

We're considered non-compliant and just bad patients.

And so it's definitely a misunderstanding of people with sickle cell.

And I think because of the negative images and stereotypes that they have on black people, as

a

whole, it affects people when it comes to treatment.

And so that's why we get those stigmas.

So what is that like?

And I know we gotta go to break, but what is that like real quick?

When you have a primary care doctor that understands everything and then you just go back and forth to the hospital when it's bad or how's that look?

Yeah, so I have a primary care watches the numbers watches over me prescribes the medication, but when the pain happens after work hours, you know, I have to be treated an emergency room and

And so these people are not familiar with people with

sickle cell.

And so

they run their emergency room the way they want

to run it.

And it's up to them.

The primary doctor has no say

in

how they treat you.

And so you're seeing a lot of different doctors, even the nurses have control

of

what pain medications

to give you the amount.

And so

that's what the trouble comes

in and to effect.

And so it's very hard

on a person with sickle cell.

And it's actually disheartening.

It makes people want to give up because they feel like.

If I'm in here and I'm in this pain, I'm being judged for the condition that I was born with, which I didn't choose.

And I can't do anything

about it.

And the people on the front line aren't treating me, the nurses, the doctors.

Then why should I even keep going on?

So it's the mental battle.

So before we let you go, because we know James Griffin will have to leave when we go to our break.

Why is it important for people to come to the sickle cell summit?

It's important to continue to learn about sickle cell.

People think sickle cell has gone away.

We're still dealing with the same issues.

Sickle cell is still affecting us as people, African descent.

And so it's important to get the information, get the knowledge, and you as a person can help advocate for us, because the more voices we have, the more effect change we can make together, and we're stronger together.

And so it's important to come out and just

learn and

understand about sickle cell.

And this will be for everybody.

So, you know, there are children that should be there if you have a child that has sickle cell, family members and friends that don't understand it and can look out for the signs that James has talked about.

So it's important that everybody comes out.

We got to get ready to take care of some bills.

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Thank you, James.

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Bailey, we're black.

And we're joined by Varsity.

Yes.

All right.

So we got to bring her.

Oh, absolutely.

You know, she's got a wealth of knowledge as well.

And because I was just thinking about, you know, there's different challenges that some of the patients.

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

So have and we need to know what are some of the challenges in your line of work, Barb, that you've seen that patients and families face outside of the doctor's office.

Mm hmm.

Well, I've seen situations where.

just as any of us, utility, financial, school, employment, where a parent has to quit working to take care of their child, but there's no income coming in to supplement that.

Or if the parent has medical concerns for themselves, they have to focus on that child.

If there's multiple children in a home, school clothing.

school issues, community issues.

You know, these are barriers that the caregivers have to carry and deal with on a daily basis.

And so where I come in with that, once we come in contact, because anyone that has social determinant health needs to find resources within the community to support their

needs.

Okay.

So you're a community health worker.

So you help them.

their time of need when when things are going wrong and they can't work because they got to take care of their child That's amazing

You know there's a plan in place I've worked with children for over 30 something years.

Okay, and my last five years was within the sickle cell clinic and there's a 504 plan that

parents have, you know, they can submit to their employer, you know, making them aware that they have a child is dealing with this chronic illness.

Okay.

And so that too can be various because even the schools sometimes don't recognize the needs that the child has because they are living with sickle cell.

I was just speaking with a child parent the other day and she was sharing with me that her son feels like he's picked on and picked out because of the fact that he's living with sickle cell.

Children feel like you know, he's contagious and they can get it from him and rather than understanding that they make fun of

Wow

10 years of age you shouldn't have to deal with that.

No,

you shouldn't have to deal with that

So you work with schools to kind of let them know how to Handle somebody who's other children who may do things like that

correct education is the best resource to get anyone to come to an understanding what they're dealing

with how

How does MPS receive y'all being able to come in to talk to the children about sickle cell?

Because again, sometimes not every child really knows what it is that they're going through.

Their parents may know, but they may not really understand.

And the message that you just gave about being picked on and thinking, oh, you can get it just because you.

See them or know the child or whatever right?

Are they do they allow you to go into the schools to kind of like speak on it on different occasions just so the students can Learn and even some of the staff right you don't understand because we can all be naive to it because if it doesn't affect us then it doesn't matter

right

So how is that relationship with being able to go into any of school system to talk about it to get educate people?

Well, there are schools that allow you to come in and in my previous role where we will go in and talk with the administrators, the teachers, to bring an understanding to school nurses, to help bring an understanding to what this child is living with and dealing with.

What about the students?

The students, we have right now with Bursity, the street teams,

Cameron

White that goes into the school and speak with the teachers and the students in regards to situations and circumstances that.

they're dealing with.

Yeah, because I think that's so important because again, like I say, I can just imagine what some of the children are going through.

And then when they're going through a crisis all of a sudden, because they could come on at any time.

And then other children just be like, oh, like, you know, see, I told you, don't touch him and all of that.

The ignorance that we right in these situations.

So right, I'm happy to hear that.

I'm happy to hear that.

What are some other ways that you bridge the gap with

families and the kids.

This is like a ministry to me.

When I meet with families, I listen.

And that's very important to listen, not only to the caregiver, but to that child.

And once you gain their trust, you're able to work together and come to resolutions.

Again, like I said, it's like a ministry for me to listen and find out where I can fit in to help support them.

Okay.

In their daily

living.

Now, uh, just a reminder for people again, we have Vercity in the studio with us from the Vercity Blood Center of Wisconsin.

This sickle cell summit that we're talking about sickle cell summit 2026 is taking place on September 25th from one PM to four PM at thrive on King in the neighborhood hall.

2153 North Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

Drive and and it is free and and you need to come out to be informed if you have sick of cell it would be great for you to come out because It's a summit and you may be able to get up and tell your truth in

how hard it may have been to get your family to understand what it is.

Uh, uh, your, your husband or your wife or, you know, uh, just your, your mate, whoever it may be to better get an understanding of what it is and, and how, you know, you're going through things.

So September 25th, 1pm to 4pm at thrive on King.

It is the Vercity Blood Center of Wisconsin Sickle Cell Summit 2026.

So we want you to make sure you come out again.

It's free.

So 2153 North Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

Drive and Vercity is also located inside of the Thrive on King.

But it is important people.

We often talk about and I say this all the time of things that we don't have and they need more of this.

They need more of that.

This is a perfect chance for you to come out.

and learn the information, ask the hard questions, because that's what it's about.

That's

what it's about.

You'll have people there that can answer an array of questions or situations that you may have.

You wonder, well, where can I go to get this?

Where can I go?

And Vercity Blood Center of Wisconsin will be able to answer those questions and direct you into the right area.

kill some of those myths.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's a big thing.

Christian.

That's the thing.

Yeah, I was gonna say for you.

Yeah.

I would

just add to Homer to that is on the 25th we are asking people to RSVP.

So we

have an Eventbrite Bursity Sickle Cell Summit.

So if you go on Eventbrite, just RSVP, we're gonna have food, giveaways, all the things we just want to make sure we're tracking people.

Um, but also at the summit, our donor center, which is called versity on King will be open during that time too.

So if you want to donate,

you can

donate and then we'll also have our blood typing team there.

Okay.

So that's where you can learn your blood type in a matter of five minutes.

A lot of

people walking around don't even know their blood

type.

Yeah.

So you can learn your blood type and you can also learn if you have the RO antigen.

So the RO antigen.

So

you may be O positive, but 50% of blacks and African Americans have this RO antigen in your blood.

And that is the blood that goes to people living with sickle cell disease because it makes for the smoothest transfusion.

Okay, so at diversity on King location We try to host a lot of blood typing events because that neighborhood I mean right on MLK Drive A lot of black folks living in that neighborhood

Yeah,

we do find that there are a lot of RO donors in that specific neighborhood So we need people to come out learn your blood type potentially learn if you're a RO donor and then hopefully donate Because then we'll have that blood on site for those living with sickle cell disease.

So that's

another piece so

Oh,

because blood transfusion is really a big situation for those people who are living with sickle cell.

Yeah, they often have to come in and get a blood transfusion.

That's what it is.

Yeah.

So that's those crises that

that that blood.

And so if the hospitals don't have the blood on hand, then what do we do?

Yeah, we have to make sure we have enough blood in these hospitals that are our role for those living with sickle cell.

So, Kristen, what what's the goal for all of this?

the summit yes not only the seven but for uh versity on king

oh versity on king um we've been open now for two years okay and so before

We had a presence in these neighborhoods.

So in the Brownsville neighborhood, but it was at a school or a church.

We'd

have a

mobile blood drive.

Okay.

But then it's like, if I missed the blood drive at my church, I forgot about versity.

I forgot about blood donation.

Right.

Um, in black and brown communities, we're not really being raised to go donate blood.

You know,

it's like, I

don't trust needles.

What's going on?

So us being in this community and in this neighborhood as a fixed donor center is saying, come.

on a regular basis, come donate with us.

Don't

worry

about if you miss it at your church or your blood drive at your school or your son's school, child's school.

We're here.

Get to

know our phlebotomists.

So we host tours.

We allow students to come in and just get to see the process of donating blood.

We allow organizations to take over our donor center and maybe one person donates and then five more people get in the chair because they saw their friend, family member do it.

So just a lot of education in this building around.

Just building trust.

You know,

we're not necessarily a hospital clinic, but we are a part of health care and we do have needles and we're in a black community.

And so there's a lot of mistrust.

There's a lot of I've seen Barb.

We've been out and people like, no, mess with needles.

No, I don't do that.

And people come in with all kind of tattoos.

Right.

They mess with

some.

The goal and I would mention too, Vercity on King is the only donor center in the country of the nation inside of a community resource hub.

So

there's a lot of eyes on Vercity from a blood perspective.

you know, from Washington just to see how things go with us being in this community resource hub and what we can accomplish here.

So all right, we gotta get ready to take care of another set of bills.

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and we're joined by diversity blood center of Wisconsin.

We've got from the thrive on King location.

Yes.

We've got Barb.

We've got Kristen and we had James with us earlier.

James had to leave.

Yeah.

But we good.

That's that part.

Shout out to James.

Yeah.

Stopping by

that part that part.

The sickle cell summit is coming up.

September 25th, 2026 from 1 p.m.

to 4 p.m.

at Thrive on King in the neighborhood hall 2153 North Dr. Martin Luther King Junior Drive.

Now where can they go to register because you are hoping that people will register to attend the summit?

Yep, so you could go to Eventbrite Vercity Sickle Cell Summit.

Okay, just type it in there.

It's also on Vercity Blood Center Wisconsin on our social media.

We have a flyer with the QR code.

So just scan the QR code there.

Some on YouTube wanted to know.

Versity, have you connected to the national organization and the work that happens nationally?

Yes, we have.

We have researchers, sickle cell researchers at Versity who work very closely with national and they kind of relay that information to our team.

So we don't necessarily directly on the community education side, but the researchers do.

Why again because you guys went over this before but it bears repeating why blood donation is so important

It saves lives I mean anything you can think of a tragedy shooting stabbing complications with labor cancer patients sickle cell people living with sickle cell disease

the list goes on and on.

So

it's our people.

We don't really even want to think about it.

Now, I remember being a young girl and my mom's saying to me, oh, no, because, you know, we would have this blood drive at school all

the

time.

Now, I wouldn't.

I was out in the suburbs.

I ain't gonna lie.

It was a shape, shape.

It's okay.

But she would always say, no, you need to wait if.

you know, somebody in the family needs it, then you can donate, but not this just random stuff.

Nope.

Nope.

And I never like was like, I was mad cause I wanted to do it just cause I wanted to be with my friends, right?

But I never said, well, why not?

But I think she would have probably just said, just, you know, because later on it became.

I was actually the only person that could donate to my mother.

I had to do platelets, the blood, the whole deal because she was sick.

She had cancer.

And so my siblings weren't able to because they were sick and all kinds of stuff going on.

So, you know, what's the difference between me giving then and me just giving at random?

Nothing, right?

No.

You know,

there's no difference.

Yeah,

but you know, I want to say that One pint of your blood can save three lives.

There

you go.

If you are organic tissue donor, you can save eight lives.

Wow.

Here's what I'm gonna say, right?

Here's my throat out there.

It's my throat out there.

Y'all ready?

Okay, so can you please because I believe that there are a lot of people that really get this confused.

Oh, I get blood every week.

I go to the plasma center.

Please.

Let's let's talk about it.

It's some people.

Yeah, I don't need blood.

I think twice a week or half alone.

Yeah, do it or whatever.

So please break down.

Uh-huh.

The difference between people who are at a plasma center and an actual blood center.

They show up at our diversity on King location.

Sometimes like, I want to give plasma.

How much you guys pay?

It's a totally different experience.

They're literally, you're going to a plasma center, you're getting money and they can use that plasma for makeup products, testing who knows what.

That's it.

That doesn't go to hospitals, saving lives, none of that.

When you donate blood.

We, Vercity, give blood to all the hospitals in Wisconsin.

So if you're donating in Wisconsin, your blood is saving lives in Wisconsin.

Is there still a shortage?

Oftentimes I hear about the shortage of blood donations, and it's also why I see a lot of organizations partnering with Vercity to say, hey, you can do it at my location.

You can do it at my location.

Is there a shortage?

And how important is it?

Because

You know, it's a lot of people that are getting shot in our community.

And in those victims, you know, that blood, if it's not there, what what's next?

So right now we're OK.

So

there

are times where we have like SOS is where we're like, we need blood now.

The end of the year, we start to push it because people is getting cold.

They don't want to come out as much.

People are with family vacations, things like that.

Summer can be a little difficult sometimes, too.

with the kiddos out.

So we do a lot of blood drives at high schools.

So in schools out, family vacations.

But yeah, the colder months and sometimes the summer obviously with people traveling.

But yeah, people are constantly going through something.

So I know years ago when that guy ran his car through the Brookfield parade, everybody ran to go give blood.

Right.

But

what people don't understand is that's great.

If we could get that energy all the time.

But that blood still has to be tested.

It has to go through a process.

We don't just take your blood and give it to Bailey to dark tomorrow.

You

know, so

I think people are like, how can I help?

How can I help when something bad happens?

But I try to tell people something bad is happening every day, unfortunately.

So we need that energy every day.

I'm going to yield my portion of my closing because I want Barb and you, Kristen, to kind of sum it up.

Again, the importance of what each of you do and why it's important people also come to the Sickle Cell Summit 2026.

I'd like to say that it's important for me when I'm engaging with people in the community to understand that there is a help.

You know, I tell people I don't have a magic wand, but I'm willing to work with you if you work with me.

There's needs for transportation, food, clothing, housing, employment, you know, then we're going to get you connected to those resources.

And so I am that, I am that one that's seeking out, you know, what's available, what's that I can share with the community.

My service is not just to people living with sickle cell, but it's for the community.

I am here to work with you and for you.

Chris.

I would just say education and awareness.

I think again, you know, I've been with diversity almost four years.

I knew what sickle cell kind of was, but now being in this role and just working closer with James.

It needs to be talked about, you know, beyond September.

So we're taking September to take this time.

We have several vendors that are going to be actually tabling at this event.

And when we mentioned it, we had people were coming us from all different organizations.

Can we table?

Can we meet people?

Can we talk about sickle sale?

We want to know more.

So there is the need.

And so I just want to get people educated.

I want people to learn their blood type.

I want us black and brown people to understand we need to donate, you know, we we need to start trusting.

We have phlebotomists that work at diversity on King location, who some of them live in the neighborhood.

So they're of their community, you know, they're they're trustworthy.

So we want people to just just donate and get educated.

So

Trust God do good and we'll see you tomorrow morning right here on 101 7 the truth

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Haley, there's a lot of situations, people talking about the shooting.

Prentice Smith and the with the policy, the standard operating procedure, the family is allowed to see the video or they must be allowed to see the video within 48 hours, right after an interaction like that.

And it'll be made public.

Two weeks after, like in 15 days, right to 15 days.

So the public.

We still have another week before we should be able to see that body cam footage from law enforcement.

OK.

And we know that the family when the mother saw the video, I don't know who I was with her when she watched the body cam footage.

And she was like, nope, my son didn't have a gun out or he didn't shoot the officers.

So from what her vantage point.

And the family's vantage point is that it was, you know, unjustifiable.

There then attorney B ivory Lamar ended up joining the family and taking on the case.

And they're, you know, trying to make sure that justice is served or it was, you know, fair.

It was a clean, you know, response by Milwaukee law enforcement.

So we now have a situation where the police association, I believe, I Yala, I believe.

Yeah.

So he is saying the Milwaukee Police Union, he has a difference of opinion and a different viewpoint.

And we're going to play that.

Because it says Milwaukee Police Union and family attorney disagree after watching body camera video of the deadly shooting.

Now, be ivory Lamar in this clip.

You'll hear him say that he hasn't seen the video.

So he's going

by the

family mother has seen and heard feeling like, nope, something's not right.

Something's not right.

So we're going to play this clip from WISN 12.

And we want to talk about it and

get

your thoughts and your truth on it.

Because again, we know that there's a lot of tension between law enforcement and people in the community.

And it's not just here.

It's a lot of other places as well.

Right.

So Xavier, great morning.

Love you.

Appreciate you.

If you had that clip queued up, we can run that clip.

And then Truth Nation, we need to talk about it.

Get your thoughts.

Bring interpretations of what actually happened during last Tuesday's deadly police shooting now coming to light.

The family of Prince Smith questions if their son even fired the gun that police say was in his hand during the deadly encounter in the Metcalf Park neighborhood while the president of the police union remains fully convinced that his officers actions were justified.

12 News Maddie Augustine is one-on-one with both tonight.

Days after a Milwaukee police officer shot and killed 23-year-old Prentice Smith near 37th and Minakie, the president of the police union and Smith's parents at odds.

The feelings and emotions from what they saw was described as being an execution.

That's what they

described it as being.

The family saw the same video that we did today and that video clearly shows the opposite.

Milwaukee Police Association President Alexander Ayala says his officer is being falsely accused and the body camera video of the deadly incident is clear.

Ayala says officers were in pursuit of the vehicle Smith was in on September 8th.

Then Ayala says Smith ran off and officers followed.

When the officer gives commands, the suspect does not acknowledge those commands instead.

turns around, makes eye contact with the officer.

I mean, that's target accusation right there.

The officer grabs them, and then that's where the fighting suits.

And then you see a few seconds later, what you'll see is going to be the suspect holding a gun with his finger and the trigger pulled all the way back.

Clear as day.

At the scene last week, police chief Jeffrey Norman said the video showed Smith appear to fire.

Did the suspect fire his gun and or did he point it at the officer?

We believe it's suspect fires guy.

The ivory Lamar, the Smith family's attorney, has not seen the video himself, only relaying what Smith's parents have told him.

Acknowledging Smith did have a gun in his hand, but questions if deadly force was justified and if Smith ever fired his weapon.

If the officer indicates that he was shot in the leg.

I want to know, did that bullet come from the firearm of Princess or was that bullet self-inflicted?

That suspect shot my officer in the leg and there's a video that obviously shows that.

Lamar says they're calling for the video to be released immediately.

This family wants transparency.

They want the facts and they just want the truth to come out.

You know, if the shooting was justified, it is what it is.

Certainly an interesting back and forth there.

Maddie joins us live from the newsroom.

Maddie, department policy requires MPD to release body camera videos from critical incidents like this one within 15 days.

Do we know if that video will be released before next week?

Blake, we asked police that, but MPD only saying in response that they would release the video according to their standard operating procedure.

So it could still be about a week before we get to see that video.

All right, Maddie Augustine.

All right, so Bailey, you heard there.

Information and the disagreement What do you think?

I think she's a grieving mother and I think I would You know I Understand you know when parents see their kids they see the sweet kid No, no matter how old they get mm-hmm.

They see the baby, right?

Yeah

But your baby even had he had a gun in his hand and that alone is a threat.

You know, that alone is a threat to a police officer.

Unfortunately.

And that's that's that's it, Homer.

I

mean, I understand how she feels.

I

mean, I get it.

Right.

Because you don't never want nothing to happen.

especially to your child, you know, but You know Even just have having him having a gun in his hand Could put him in jeopardy, right?

It's not

just with the police.

It could put him in jeopardy with anybody Yeah, you know, and that's that's the thing we have to take into consideration, but I mean

I feel for her, I really do,

because

you don't want your baby.

Your kids are not supposed to pass away before you do, but always remember, we put ourselves in situations.

We are, as parents, I hope we're a good example for our kids.

At least be okay,

you

know what I mean?

But he out here in a bad area,

And it looks like he might have.

I don't know,

but I

know he had a gun in his hand and that didn't look good.

Everybody agrees on that one fact.

I don't know about the rest.

I don't know who shot what or

right.

I don't know.

We just have to wait and see what, you know, when it comes how it comes out.

Yeah.

And on our YouTube page, Eunice said it's time for them to release a video to the public.

That's the only way we're really going to know what happened.

And.

Units to that and to a lot of people who may feel exactly that same.

There's a

standard operating procedure.

It's just like, you know, and I know that and it's not only when someone may lose their life.

It's a lot of times that people question how law enforcement.

I don't think it was this, even if the person wasn't fatally wounded.

Right.

But in so many other instances, nah, we want to see the video.

They have a standard operating procedure.

Yeah

It's the same way that with anything else in life.

You feel like you want your day in court You feel like you want this, you know, you don't want to rush the judgment and be like blam blam blam So when there are policies in place and that's even at wherever you work at.

Yeah, there's

certain policies that are in place and I understand we may want it to be expedited now you want to be like forget that Show me now.

It's like, nope.

That's not how it works.

So

We have to deal with the process of what

it is because

they shorten the time.

Yeah, it's not even that long now.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, they used to didn't even have to put it out there.

Right.

Absolutely.

So I mean, now it's what, two weeks or something like that.

15 days.

15 days.

So I mean, it's not that long.

They'll put it out.

Right.

Absolutely.

And they have been.

They have been.

You

know, they have been.

They've been following that.

But again, another thing that.

Also, you know, change during the standard operating procedure is the time that the victims parents or, you know, immediate family would get a chance to see the video with or without an attorney.

Yeah.

So that changed to 48 hours.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, yeah, it's the right way.

Right.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

And so I just need people to understand when we talking about release it right away.

You still got to remember.

Especially with law enforcement, it's an ongoing investigation.

Sometimes even at your job, it's like, okay, well, we got to investigate to see if this really happened.

Now they got to go talk to different people, some that work with you, some in the upper management or whatever.

They got to do all those things before they can say, okay, we've done our investigation.

Here it is.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, you still fired

or you know what I'm saying, right?

Whatever it is,

good, bad or indifferent.

Yeah, you need to reinstate them to their position that you find out after the process.

We know we're anxious.

We want to

see it.

We.

Oh, I need to see it right now, but we still have to follow the process and the policy that is there.

It has been amended.

So I think people should also.

be happy about that.

Yeah, that it's at least amended because it wasn't that before.

Right.

It wasn't that.

So, you know, that's why I'm saying, you know, we get it.

Like I said, we get the fact that if you are the immediate family and your friends of and all of that for you, I need it now.

We in this microwave society

and

this get it now society.

Everybody,

I want to get it now.

I want to, you

know, and it's like sometimes.

You can end up coming up to the wrong conclusion.

Yeah.

It's like, again, the unfortunate, and I'm not saying this situation will be that, but the situation on Mill Road, when it was a road rage incident.

Yeah.

And the family and other people, all the social media, especially here was like, uh-uh, he didn't have no, he didn't have no.

And then when it was time for them to.

Release it in 48 hours for the mother and the family

to

see it.

Right.

They ended up So this is why I say, you know, we we definitely want to make sure that we understand that I know we're we're we're blood thirsty.

We're hungry We are now now that it that's not how it works.

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The truth, uh, before we went to break, we were talking about, um, the difference of opinion between the Milwaukee police unions, uh, president.

Alexander Yala and the family and the family's attorney be ivory Lamar of Prentice Smith who was the young man that was killed on 37th and right or Mickey or monarchy and It was after a pursuit and there was obviously he was found with a weapon two weapons on him Allegedly one he had in his hand

One he had in his waistband and there was a third gun found in the vehicle.

But now there were two suspects.

One got away, but law enforcement appears to know who they're looking for from what they said in the media and on, you know, TV or whatnot.

So I haven't heard any updates if he if he's been apprehended as of yet.

But so we can't, you know, because of the one in the car, they were both in the car.

So we can't say if that third weapon was something that was in the possession of Princess Smith or not.

Did they did they catch the other guy?

Not yet.

That's what I was just talking about.

Yeah, that's to my knowledge.

I haven't heard.

And I would think that when they did catch that person that it would be news.

You know what I'm saying?

It would be breaking news.

The second person has been apprehended or something, but I haven't heard or seen any updates in that area.

So.

I have to take it for now as if they don't have that person in custody.

And with such a high profile situation like this, I think that they would want to let us know right away like, okay, we got the other person.

Right.

We got the other person.

So yeah, but uh, eight, three, three, two, one, two, ten, seventeen.

Uh, what's your truth when it comes to this situation?

I know we get antsy, like I say, we want to see it now.

We want to see it now.

We want to see it now.

We don't want to follow the process.

Right.

Well, I mean, the process is fine.

It doesn't take that long.

It's OK.

Yeah.

But still, some people are saying, like I say, no, I still should be right now.

Oh,

but we're saying that it's I think it's a fair process.

Yeah, I think it's fair, especially forty eight hours for the parents or the family

and then

fifteen days for us.

Yeah, I think that's fine.

Mm hmm.

I think that's fine.

That's fair.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

So yeah.

So I don't know.

I just want whatever the situation is.

I want to give it the time to to play out and I'm saying this Bailey when I talk about these things.

I want people to know and I can only speak for myself that

If I was the victim of a situation like this, I would still want the process to play out the way it's supposed to play out.

I guess

I

guess one irritant to me would be the what's his name from the Association of Police Association.

Hey, Yala Alexander.

I

kind of be like, yo, bro, just like the police department.

You I understand you're whatever,

but

chill.

I wouldn't want to hear from him.

You know, you know, yeah, I get it.

But I think it's his.

He's the only one out there defending the police officers.

I

get the whole.

Yeah, I get the whole deal.

And that's pretty much what they're paying for.

But he's kind of.

Well,

yeah, you know, you know, I think Bailey, it's like anybody that has really had any kind of situation where there could be a lawsuit or it could be.

A trial you are on trial for something or you've been arrested for something and as much as you want to end up saying the truth of what you know, no and What is the first thing a great lawyer is going to tell you?

Don't talk about the case.

Yeah,

don't talk about don't go do no interviews Don't go because again, some people don't realize and they don't respect the fact of when they say

Anything you say, can and miss the big word will be used against you in the court of law.

So you out there, cause you want to get your side out and you want to tell what you want to tell.

And now all of that can be used against you.

And now people telling you, uh, you should take that post down, but you up there on the post talking about, yeah, and I take out any of them.

And you know, no, no, no, no, no, no, you making threats against law enforcement or other people.

Yeah.

Yeah.

You probably, you probably didn't want to put that post up.

because that post can come back and give probable cause and motive.

Yeah, well, you should always look out for what you say and what you don't say online,

no matter who you are.

But do

they know some of y'all just be putting the whole King Kaboodle

out

right and be the whole thing.

Whether it makes sense or not.

I synced it.

Yeah, those people.

Yeah.

And then when they had to go black track and I didn't see nothing.

I don't remember nothing like that.

I don't recall.

So, yeah, we yeah, we have to we have to really be mindful, you know what I'm saying because you can put yourself Where you're gonna get a visit.

Yeah, you're gonna get a visit be like, okay Oh, so you have information right?

We need to highlight you, right?

Oh, no, no, I had no my cousin My cousin is the one that he he the one she told me

yeah

now a person that doesn't stutter stutter Stuttering Stanley stuttering Stanley,

I

mean

That all of that goes for what's his name, too?

I just don't feel like I feel like he irritates the situation when he come up starting to talk about all that I'm like, you know what, you know, you got a little inside track or whatever, but you need to chill Let the let you may be representing the officers, but you're not representing the department And it would be Better and less irritating for the community

and less agitating for the family, because that family seemed like they're ready to go at it now, right?

And

it would be less agitating for them if he didn't do that.

Just be quiet.

Yeah.

Well, again, I think it's just the human nature of it all, Bailey.

That's why I think that that comes out the same way that other people should probably not be saying anything, but when you are being battered, when you are being pummeled,

by the public opinion, you get, you get, you get what I'm saying?

So when you're being battered, sometimes you want to do

that all the time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But I'm just saying that he's not, you know, he's the union.

You get what I'm saying?

That's opposed to, so I can understand if I'm being battered, even though the lawyer has said, don't say nothing, right?

Man, they, they, they, they, they chair me apart out here.

I get it.

But you can't say nothing.

Don't say nothing.

Man, man, I'm telling you now, if I see some more, well, a couple more things, man, I don't know, man, I'm happy to get my opinion be heard.

So I think that, you know, sometimes that thing can happen.

And especially for him, you know, the whole law enforcement is his family.

You get what I'm saying?

So it's like, OK, y'all family saying this, OK, my family, I'm going to represent for my family and say this.

But in the end.

We'll all get to see and the good thing about when we get to see it as the public, uh, like I say, we got another week or so, uh, or less than that we'll be able to see it.

And I like the fact that they slow it down.

They draw circles around what you're seeing.

They describe what you were seeing.

So you'll be able to say, oh, okay.

Cause that's what they did in that other case on Mill Road.

You know, they were able to say, like, if you watch this and then you'll hear, sometimes they actually narrate the footage too.

So you can pay attention and be like, oh, see, I didn't see that before.

You know what I mean?

So, so we just got to let the process go.

And I know condolences.

To all the family and friends of Princess Smith because nobody wants to have to go through something like this You know it's a tragedy all around the board and I think Not just you know to try to justify one way or another But you got to think of what those law enforcement officers to also have to deal with I don't think that

You know, we know that there are some quote unquote rogue law enforcement, right?

But I don't think that a lot of these officers go out here.

I can't.

I'm gonna just kill somebody today.

I'm gonna.

I'm gonna use, you know, deadly force because of the situation.

So they got it.

They going through some things, too, in my opinion.

You know, but it's like the hell of what y'all going through.

What about you doing?

I'm saying so we have to, you know, I try to have a open view.

on the things and I'm like okay yes even though this person hit in my hit uh my daughter's car and caused her injuries or whatnot if it was truly a situation after an investigation found out that she was negligent right you know so as much as I want to hate you would be mad at you right

Yeah, you probably going through some things too, because if somebody was to lose a life or just lose a limb or something like that, right, you know, it can mess with your mental too.

And they got to deal with a lot.

Yeah,

they got to deal with every shooting that we hear about.

Yeah.

That's why I salute the law enforcement, the firefighters, the EMTs, because they got to be right there.

They got to sit there and work with these bodies that they know.

They're not getting any sign of life, but here they are for 40 minutes, 45 minutes still doing CPR.

Right.

Even though you may have seen pupils dilate it.

You go, you know what I'm saying?

Eyes fixed.

You go, but, but you're, you still trying.

Yeah.

And now you got to go home and eat dinner.

Right.

and try not to take that home with you.

In

my opinion, it's impossible.

We gotta get ready to take care of some bills.

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What's the address to Thrive on King?

Homer, you got the address.

Yeah, let me out.

Enjoying grapes that you gave

me.

Oh my bad

Bailey be bringing fruits.

Yeah, the grapes was like nah

Put the gavel up because I know Bailey just I knew it was gonna be a

moment

Yeah, Bailey always on the moment.

Let's see.

Hang on.

Pull that up.

But abstract nor 414 says so they were involved.

Oh, hang on.

Failure to communicate said that's the power of a union.

Yeah,

something many of us no longer have.

Yeah.

And that's true.

That's

that's

true.

That's true.

Yeah.

And again, you want your which is what I was speaking on.

Uh, when I say that, uh, it's 21 53 North Dr MLK junior drive that's drive on King.

Okay.

Uh, 21 53 North Dr Martin Luther King junior drive here in Milwaukee.

Okay.

Uh, but yeah.

So the, the whole thing with that is you want your time, right?

If you felt like you were, um, terminated and it wasn't, you know, right or whatever.

And you got a grievance or whatever, you know, you got.

It's a process.

They and they have to, you know, deal with that process.

You think you deserve unemployment or whatever.

There's a process.

There's things you got to do.

Um, if you have, uh, insurance, whatever the case may be.

So

I don't mind the process, but what I'm saying is everybody wants the North side or our people to stop being so agitated with all these things.

But when you have an agitator out there, agitating the situation.

Such

as what's his name Ayala?

Alexander Ayala

when you have somebody out there

Union

agitating the situation You know and that's what it is.

Yeah, but he's trying to state his facts.

Yeah, or whatever

But

what he believes to be the facts,

right?

But I

understand is agitation on both ends It's just like when law enforcement is trying

to quell a scene thousands of people to chill out

Well, this is going on and the process is unfolding and you said that they're going to chill out, but I'm going to agitate you, chill out, but I'm going to agitate you.

Yeah, you know what I mean?

Yeah, but I'm and I'll agree to disagree.

I'm just we're looking at it at different vantage points.

In my opinion, again, you can't keep throwing rocks at me.

And when I pick up a rock and throw it black.

No, that's you trying to get your give back.

Yeah, you're throwing a rock, but

again trying to get your get back by throwing a rock back.

Okay, but you've been bombarded with rocks.

You know what I'm saying?

So if you're being pelted, that's all I'm saying is I understand that even though in in law and I get it

You still supposed to just try to keep your composure.

Don't, you know, do like the chief did the chief.

Like I can't speak on all that because Wauwatosa is in charge.

And so I don't get the, but he said his

things, but no, no, he, but he did say the things he said when they asked him the questions, he said that, yeah, I did.

And even those things, some people would look at it as like, oh, no, you wouldn't even say that.

You know what I'm saying?

So I get it, but you're not going to attack.

I'm not gonna let somebody attack you or you let somebody attack me without saying, hold on.

Y'all don't even understand the character of Bailey.

Y'all don't understand the character of Humber Blow.

And what y'all not gonna do is just keep on saying, yeah, but he, he, he, he, he.

And it's like, you know what?

Hold on, what we not gonna do.

You understand?

That was there again.

Okay.

I'm sitting there going.

What is different?

You know, what's going on?

Right?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, uh, but we got Al M. K. E. Uh, Al M. K. E. Great morning.

Love you.

Appreciate you.

You're in the conversation.

What's your truth, Al?

Well, first thing I'm going to say, it's got to remember you're black.

Yeah.

Try

not to push it.

Don't put yourself in unnecessary situation.

That's true.

You still got to remember you're still black.

Yeah.

You got to remember if you have a gun or not, you're still guilty.

Yeah.

And remember you're still black.

Yeah.

Okay.

I like

people to remember this.

But I need to ask you a general question for you and Bailey.

It might be controversial.

I was just I was discussing something with some of my people and they feel that ninjas will be the downfall of the north side.

How do you feel about

that?

Okay, I'm sorry.

I had to get one in there.

What's your truth on

that?

I just said, you know, it is what it is.

Here we

are.

Here we

are.

From 20th in capital, from both the gas stations, you got derelicts.

If you go to Akas, all the way to Akasing, you got trash.

If you go up Akasing, you got the prostitute nickel horse.

from the south side who claim they're on this side of town now and black people really have no voice and black people a lot of black people who work real hard seeing they're tired of the ninjas but everybody has a heart of sin they have nowhere to go but why do you care where they go so that's why i was asking you do you feel the ninjas will be the downfall

because

no money is coming to the north side

Can I just say, you know, when I first met

you, we'll let you

know.

Thanks.

When I first moved here, you know, you could tell I was from the West Coast, clearly, California plates and all, but actually from Washington state.

But I when I first moved here, I wanted to be closer to my people.

I was living out in West Dallas.

I said, I need to see some of my

people.

And then when I moved to the north side, I said, you know, I still love my people.

But what?

Let me just move a little

bit.

You know what?

It's time to get ready to get ready for I guess.

Leave it to Shay Shay Foo Foo.

Leave

it.

I'm still on the north side because I love my people

though.

I am.

Yeah.

I'm just not, you know, in the teens or 20.

We got it.

You ain't on the low end, you on the high end.

I love y'all though, I do.

Just stay over, I'm sorry.

Stay over by Homer.

Okay.

What?

Listen, one week up like next hour, we will be joined by our guest, Vercity.

But you know what I'm saying?

We know that it's two sides to every story.

That's why it's important that the video come out.

1017 the truth is truth in the morning with Homer blow and Bailey Coleman And we have special guests in studio with us this morning from versity.

We've got Kristen Harris.

I said that right, right?

All right.

Oh, is your mic on?

Okay,

we got you guys.

Press on.

Okay.

Right.

Kristen Harris.

Barbara Bell and James Griffin.

Good morning, everybody.

Good morning,

guys.

So you all have a summit coming up.

We do.

We have a sickle cell summit coming up at the end of the month next Friday, the 25th at Thrive on King from one to four.

So September sickle cell awareness month.

In the word out.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes.

So sickle cell.

Mm hmm.

is something that affects mostly people of color, right?

Correct.

Oh, no, you got to scoot into your mic.

We got to get that voice on.

I can tell.

That's a beautiful voice.

There we go.

Okay, well, I repeat what you said.

Brown

and

black

people.

Brown and black people.

So how did we get the pleasure of being the majority in this particular disease?

Well, yeah,

it's passed down through trait, but coming from African being African descended Malaria the higher presence of malaria sickle cell having that trait gene protect the people from getting malaria So it was beneficial over there, but in the US where we don't have a higher prevalence of malaria then When you get two parents together two people together who have that gene is passed down to a child and that's how we ended up with it.

So

Rooted back to history.

So do both parents have to have the gene in order for the child to get it?

They do and every pregnancy is a 25% chance if both parents have the sickle cell gene that a child will have sickle cell

Okay, so is it possible for one parent just to have the gene and the child get it?

No both both parents have to get it because each parent passes on a set of genes and that makes up sickle cell Wow parents pass it down.

Okay

Okay, very interesting.

So you may have heard of it as sickle cell trait.

Right.

Yeah.

So that's the gene that he's talking about.

Okay.

So both parents have that sickle cell trait.

That's past.

Yeah.

Okay.

And one of the things with that when I know so many people that are living with sickle cell and know a lot of people who passed away from sickle cell and in knowing that and knowing how, how that works, is it

Familiar like some diseases that people may have where you can be like you could have the trait but not necessarily pass it on No, you have to have

that

trait gene to pass it on But I'm saying are there some people that are born that even though their parents may have it but they don't end up showing signs of having the sickle cell trait

Oh,

yeah, that's that's true.

Yeah, that's that's that's where I was going

because I know a lot of people like what my baby don't have it, right?

You don't understand they get tested How soon should people get tested?

Is it something that you can find right away?

Or is it something that?

After you continue to grow then you kind of learn that oh something isn't feeling right

yet No, the best practice is to get it tested when a baby is born.

So newborn screening

It's on the registry list now, so every baby born here in Wisconsin will get tested and screened for a sickle cell trait.

Okay.

Christian, for someone who has heard of sickle cell disease but doesn't know much about it, why is this again an important community health conversation?

And we need people to come out because oftentimes

people hear

certain things about different summits or health fairs and

they don't end up attending

right

like they should.

But yet they got family members and friends

that

may be battling with sickle cell.

So

yeah.

And how would you describe that for somebody who hasn't heard about it and doesn't know much about it and why it's so important to have a conversation?

Yeah, I think for us at VersaD, you know, September, I said a sickle cell awareness month, but it's a disease that isn't talked about a lot.

You don't see commercials.

You don't see

TV shows around it.

You don't see billboards, all the things that you may see for another disease, which is sickle cell is just as important to highlight.

So adversity, we are a blood center.

So sickle cell is a blood disorder, blood disease.

So we're taking it upon ourselves to have a sickle cell summit.

Where we're going to educate not only just community members,

but

those living with sickle cell clinical Doctors nurses who work with those living with sickle cell the caregivers for people who are taking care of those living with sickle cell because that's a toll too and just talk about the overall disease we're gonna have some of our Researchers that are doing the research around sickle cell disease from versity will have some doctors who actually treat those living with sickle cell disease from children's speaking about

their experience and what they see in the clinics.

And then we'll also have some sickle cell warriors, people living with sickle cell that'll be speaking on the panel to talk about their experience.

So how does sickle cell affect family and friends?

That's a loaded question.

I can let James.

Well, just living with sickle cell disease, it affects the family because it's something that the child is always in pain or may have daily pain or go through pain.

And so.

those parents have to take care of that child and take their child to the hospital and people don't understand the amount of effort it takes to take care of a child with sickle cell and the parents usually have to end up not working because the child has either chronic pain all the time or it's just constantly up and down and in and out of pain and so it makes it hard for a parent to work.

Growing up my mother had to quit her job just so she could take care of me because as a

child I was in

the hospital so much.

Wow.

It was a monthly thing and so

You know, it makes it hard to work and affects the whole parent.

What

is what is a pain like for someone living with sickle cell disease?

What kind of pain is it?

It's excruciating.

So I don't know if you've ever jammed your hand in a door or not.

I could just kind of compare it to that.

The intensity of it is much more greater and on a greater scale.

So to me, it feels like my body's being squeezed in a vice grip or just being hit with like a baseball bat.

It's just that painful that

You can't do anything about it, but take pain medications

like

morphine and hope that works.

If not, then you go to the hospital and they give you more pain medication and IV fluids.

Okay.

And we, uh, and for those who are listening again, we're joined by versity and James Griffin, the brother that we are speaking with, uh, he's living with sickle cell disease since childhood.

So it's.

Great to have somebody in here that can really talk about what those crisis are, are like, because he lives it.

Right.

Um, how, you know, to know that you're with adversity, like today, what would happen right now if you were to go into a crisis?

What, what, what, what is that real life, real time?

Because I know some people, as you were saying that every moment of the day, sometimes.

It's a challenge, but we see some of these people and they be at work and it's like you having a crisis, but you know, but you still working so Talk about that part because there's a lot of people trust me that I know

that are

living with sickle cell like you

Yeah, over time you learn how to manage it.

So it's different pain levels.

So if you can have pain every day, but some pain is just Not a variable.

Yeah, it's not as string with us other pain is so

it can come on gradually and then just snowball into an effect where one minute you can be fine and then something can trigger

it like a cold weather or just

humidity or just even like strenuous workouts so

that can come

on and that can lead you to have to have more pain and then you know that's when it gets intense and you have to do something about it and you leave work and you know go get treated.

What types of challenges?

Have you faced living with sickle cell in your family?

What what challenges has that caused for them?

I would just say just being the only one living with sickle cell in my family Just feeling like I was alone But I've always had to support of my family and so they had to either start what they were doing to check on me help me out Give me to the hospital pick up prescriptions.

I need it

So it's it affects the whole family and that's something that people don't understand about the disease It's

not just like it's one

person me going through it.

It's a whole family because it creates You know a lot of attention that

sickle cell

causes because you know the pain is unbearable You always have to watch out and understand and make sure that I'm good That

that brings up another interesting question which kind of I talked about a little bit earlier

So you said, you know, your family.

So are you our only child?

Yeah, I'm one of four children and only

child in my family to have.

Yeah.

So that's kind of like where I was going.

Like does

it skip?

You know what I'm saying?

Like, like, you know, how is that?

But do your other siblings have the trait?

Some have the trait and then none have have anything.

OK.

And so I want to go back to what I said about the newborn screen.

I want to make sure that I say it correctly.

They actually test for sickle cell disease.

Okay.

The trade

has to be going through the hospital and you have to ask the doctor and request for it.

And it's something called electrophoresis where they can easily just like a finger poke.

Okay.

So that's how people find out.

So how did you and your family find out that you had sickle cell and was it at an early age or?

Yeah,

it was at an early age.

So I was about two years old and I was playing across the hall from my parents.

And all of a sudden, I let out a loud scream.

And when my mother went to check on me, she noticed

my hand.

It was swollen and

puffy.

And in that moment, she had to take me to the hospital because there was no evidence of anything that

I've had

done to make my hands swell up.

And she couldn't calm me down.

And so I was taken to the hospital.

And so that's like the first signs that it's shown.

It's either hand syndrome or put syndrome.

It's a different type of word for it.

But your hands swell up or your feet swell up.

That's the cause for concern and that's usually how it shows in presents as early ages.

Okay.

Okay.

All right, we got to get ready take care of some bills, but we're gonna definitely get a Barb involved here, right?

Because you have a very very important role and It's all coming together, you know, I'm saying collective.

That's that's what we have to do

And we're going to get some great information from Barb when we return.

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And we only have James with us until 8 30.

So, uh, barb, trust me, y'all be here with us for the rest

of the show.

So

we're going to get to you and Kristen, uh, some more.

But, uh, James, uh, a lot of the people that I know and you know, I'm, I'm blessed that I've never been, you know, diagnosed with the sickle cell trait.

But they hate to go to the hospital But they because they had to take a lot of morphine and a lot of them say that you know Well you it's addictive and so a lot of them smoke weed I'm talking about like they smoke weed as if it's legal

You know what

I mean?

But to them they says that it helps them with the pain or you know when they're dealing with a crisis and it kind of calms them down Talk about that.

Do you have to take morphine?

Are you afraid of you know and and because you've been dealing with this from childhood to now Things may have gotten a little bit better for you to be able to manage when you're having a crisis But were you a victim of that to where it's like oh morphine again morphine again, but at the same time it took away the pain

Here we go

for me I never

Really got feel like I was gonna become addicted if it's just something that I had to go through would have morphine the second I was out of pain I was able to cut off the The morphine stop taking it, but I know people like that and they do deal with you mentioned smoking they do deal with it that way because It's just another therapy for them, but I would say that it's not wise to smoke because of the oxygen sickle cell effects

It's because of a decrease of oxygen and that's why your blood cells sickle and so smoking could limit that oxygen that's going to your body and it could cause other things like chest pain.

So I don't think it's wise to smoke.

So I never was wanting to smoke, but I know it's something that's being studied in and has to be studied about the use of medicinal drugs.

And I think it would be wise for, you know, the oils, people could use those, but not smoking.

So now with where?

where you are after, you know, being obviously born with it and going through it.

How is life for you now?

How, uh, are you able to, uh, because we hear that it's like uncontrollable, but, you know, are there advancements in treatments or, or medicine that help you to cope better and could help other sickle cell anemia patients cope better?

Yeah, I'm on a medication now.

Um, Hydroxurea that came out in.

99 I believe but just being put on that helped me to stay away from having crisis and just able to live a healthy normal life because you know it works on the body it prevents the body from having those crisis and so it was just something that I tried and it worked for me thankfully I know other people everybody is different some people it doesn't work and so they're still looking for ways to treat their pain but it's um it's research out there that's being studied

Gene therapy, but fortunately everybody won't be able to get that and so we have to figure out other avenues and just I think people have to just really learn and continue it's a learning process every day living with sickle cell and what works what doesn't I found out eating the right foods eating healthy and also drinking like a lot of water I consume a lot of water and Eliminate all the junk food the sweets for my diet, and so it's bigger

if somebody was to just See you out about and you

Went into a severe crisis What should we as the public like as a person be like what the hell wrong with him?

What's going on with him?

What should people do or what is the reaction?

That people can do to try to help someone if they are going through a sickle cell crisis

I think the first thing is to immediately just take them to the emergency room because you never know What's going on?

It's a lot of complications that can happen from sickle cell like it can cause strokes

It can cause organ damage, tissue death, bone death.

And so it's important to just take that person immediately to the hospital so they can assess them and see what's going on.

What does it look like?

What should people be looking for?

Is there a certain thing?

Some people, you might just be screaming.

You know

what I'm saying?

So

what is that crisis kind of look like?

Some people may have seen people going through an actual

crisis

and didn't know what the hell it

was.

You know what

I'm saying?

Because of the pain, people may grab at their arms, they may grab at their back or just be screaming like you said.

It's so intense and the intensity of it was the problem.

It affects the body and it's just excruciating itself.

You see somebody bent over or...

Hard to breathe or just grabbing at their arms, legs, or just screaming in pain.

I'm having pain.

And I think that's when we could address them and just take them right to the hospital or even call 911.

OK,

baby.

So let's dial back a little bit because you were talking about how you changed your diet.

What's a good sort of barometer on the diet?

What things are you eating now that you didn't eat before?

I know you said you had you're taking in more water.

Yeah, a lot of few some vegetables and I cut out the fried foods.

So the chicken is baked now.

Just eat a lot of fish.

And so I just think like anything that's water because the water hydrates your body and keeps your cells from sticking together.

And that's kind of where you get those crisis because it creates blockages when the cells stick together.

And so I just think anything that's heavy in water.

It's good.

Okay.

Okay.

So watermelon, cantaloupe, those kinds of

things.

Okay.

Okay.

Very good.

Very good.

Yeah.

I know people are, uh, they're, they're spinning in their cars right now because they're going, well, not in your cars, but you know what I mean.

Uh, but they're going, no fried foods.

What?

I got to have me a piece of fried chicken.

You know

what?

Uh, what's y'all?

You're going to be all right.

We got

Andy on the truth call in lines, uh, and maybe he has a question that you may be able to help him with, uh, James, uh, Andy, great morning.

Love you.

Appreciate you.

You hear the conversation.

We are joined by versity here in the studio, uh, talking about the sickle cell anemia, uh, summit that will be coming up and what's your truth?

What's your question?

Okay.

Um,

Can you hear me?

Yes.

Okay.

Well, my truth is, first of all, sickle cell, it takes me back.

Well, most recently, I just lost a cousin, first cousin to sickle cell disease in April.

The doctor told the family he wouldn't live to be maybe 25, but he lived to be 56, able to see kids and grandkids.

And so I'm grateful for that.

Also, I worked at a hospital some years ago, and I remember this young lady would come in, young lady, about in her 20s, and she had tic-a-fail disease, and they would barely treat her, and they would say, oh, she's just a drug seeker, and that just really helped me to my heart, you know.

So I think more attention and training needs to be done to these.

doctors and nurses and everything to be more enlightened about what these people go through because that was just terrible.

And also, I know a family, the lady had three boys and all the boys had tic-a-fail and they died at a young age in their 20s.

Now, is this something that's predominantly maybe with males more so than females?

All right, thank

you for

thank you for that question and we'll have James anywhere Kristen or Barb speak on that.

Thank you for your call

I'm not

worried about your mortality because of having sickle cell.

No, I just live life.

I just take everything day to time I Just I just don't even think about it.

I know they place limits on how long you live, but I don't go by that I go by my God and so I just worry about living life daily

But I wanted to say something about that because that's why we're here.

She mentioned the stigma about going to the hospital.

And this is why some people fight and try to hold off as long as possible because it is stigma since sickle cell effects, African-Americans, people of African descent.

And we're not being treated by our own people.

We do face that heavy level of racism within the medical care.

We have to advocate for ourselves just to get back and get seen.

It creates another letter, added barrier to our treatment.

And so we are considered drug seekers.

We're considered frequent fliers, always coming into the hospital.

We're considered non-compliant and just bad patients.

And so it's definitely a misunderstanding of people with sickle cell.

And I think because of the negative images and stereotypes that they have on black people, as a whole, it affects people when it comes to treatment.

That's why we get those stigmas.

So what is that like?

And I know we got to go to break, but what is that like real quick?

When you have a primary care doctor that understands everything and then you just go back and forth to the hospital when it's bad or how's that look?

Yeah, so I have a primary care watches the numbers watches over me prescribes the medication but when the pain happens after work hours, you know, I have to be treated in an emergency room and

And so these people are not familiar with people with sickle cell.

And so they run their emergency room the way they want to run it.

And it's up to them.

The primary doctor has no say in how they treat you.

And so you're seeing a lot of different doctors, even the nurses have control of what pain medications to give you the amount.

And so that's where the trouble comes in and to effect.

And so it's very hard on a person with sickle cell.

And it's actually disheartening.

It makes people want to give up because they feel like.

If I'm in here and I'm in this pain, I'm being judged for the condition that I was born with, which I didn't choose.

And I can't do anything about it.

And the people on the front line are treating me, the nurses, the doctors.

And why should I even keep going on?

So it's the mental battle.

So before we let you go, because we know James Griffin will have to leave when we go to our break.

Why is it important for people to come to the sickle cell summit?

It's important to continue to learn about sickle cell.

People think sickle cell has gone away.

We're still dealing with the same issues.

Sickle cell is still affecting us as people, African descent, and so it's important to get the information, get the knowledge, and you as a person can help advocate for us, because the more voices we have, the more effect change we can make together, and we're stronger together, and so it's important to come out and just learn and understand about sickle cell.

And this will be for everybody.

So, you know, there are children that should be there if you

have a

child that has sickle cell, family members and friends that don't understand it and can look out for the signs that James has talked about.

So it's important that everybody comes out.

We got to get ready to take care of some bills.

James Griffin, thank you very much.

Thank

you, James for

joining us on Truth in the Morning.

We still got Bart.

We still got Kristen.

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Yes,

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Bailey, we're black and we're joined by versity.

Yes.

All right.

So we got to bring her

in.

Oh, absolutely.

You know, she's got a wealth of knowledge as well.

And because I was just thinking about, you know, there's different challenges that some of the patients.

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

To the cell have.

And we need to know what are some of the challenges in your line of work, Barb, that you've seen that patients and families face?

outside of the doctor's office.

I've seen situations where just as any of us utility, financial, school, employment, where a parent has to quit working to take care of their child, but there's no income coming in to supplement that.

Or if the parent has medical concerns.

for themselves, you know, they have to focus on that child.

If there's multiple children in a home, school clothing, school issues, community issues, you know, these are barriers that the caregivers have to carry and deal with on a daily basis.

And so where I come in with that, once we come in contact, because anyone that has a social determinant health needs to find resources within the community to support their

needs.

Okay So you're a community health worker So you help them in their time of need when when things are going wrong and they can't work because they got to take care of their child That's amazing

You know there's a plan in place I worked with children for over 30 something years.

Okay, and my last five years was within the sickle cell clinic

And there's a 504 plan that parents have, you know, they can submit to their employer, you know, making them aware that they have a child that's dealing with this chronic illness.

And so that too can be various because even the schools sometimes don't recognize the needs that the child has because they are living with sickle cell.

I was just speaking with a child parent the other day and she was sharing with me that her son feels like he's picked on and picked out because of the fact that

he's living with sickle cell.

Children feel like, you know, he's contagious and they can get it from him.

And rather than understanding that, they make fun of him.

Wow.

You know, so at 10 years of age, you shouldn't have to deal with that.

No,

you shouldn't have to deal with that.

So you work with schools to kind of let them know how to handle somebody who's

other children

who may do things like that.

Correct.

Education is the best resource to get anyone to come to an understanding of what they're dealing with.

How does MPS receive y'all being able to come in to talk to the children about sickle cell?

Because again, sometimes not every child really knows what it is that they're going through.

Their parents may know, but they may not really understand.

And the message that you just gave about being picked on and thinking, oh, you can get it just because you.

see them or know the child or whatever.

Do they allow you to go into the schools to kind of like speak on it on different occasions just so the students can learn and even some of the staff.

You know

what I'm saying?

Because we can all be naive to it because if it doesn't affect us then it doesn't matter.

So how is that relationship with being able to go into any of the school system to talk about it, to educate people?

Well, there are schools that allow you to come in and in my previous role where we will go in and talk with the administrators, the teachers, to bring an understanding to school nurses, to help bring an understanding to what this child is living with and dealing with.

What

about the students?

The students, we have right now with Bursity, the street teams, Cameron White that goes into the school and speak with the teachers and the students in regards to situations and circumstances that...

They're dealing with

yeah, cuz I think that's so important

because

again like I say I can just imagine what some of the children are going through and then when they're going through a crisis all of a sudden because they could come on at any time and then other children just be like oh Like you know see I told you don't touch him and all of that the ignorance that

we right

in these situations So

right

I'm happy to hear that.

I'm happy to hear that.

What are some other ways that you bridge the gap?

with

families and the kids.

This is like a ministry to me.

When I meet with families, I listen.

And that's very important to listen, not only to the caregiver, but to that child.

And once you gain their trust, you're able to work together and come to resolutions.

Again, like I said, it's like a ministry for me to listen and find out where I can fit in to help support them.

Okay.

In their daily

living.

Now, uh, just a reminder for people again, we have versity in the studio with us from the versity blood center of Wisconsin.

This sickle cell summit that we're talking about sickle cell summit 2026 is taking place on September 25th from 1pm to 4pm at thrive on King in the neighborhood hall.

21 53 North Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

Drive and and it is free and and you need to come out to be informed if you have sick of cell it would be great for you to come out because it's a summit and you may be able to get up and tell your truth and

how hard it may have been to get your family to understand what it is, uh, uh, your, your husband or your wife or, you know, uh, just your, your mate, whoever it may be to better get an understanding of what it is and, and how, you know, you're going through things.

So September 25th, 1pm to 4pm at thrive on King.

It is the Vercity Blood Center of Wisconsin Sickle Cell Summit 2026.

So we want you to make sure you come out again.

It's free.

So 2153 North Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

Drive and Vercity is also located inside of the thrive on King.

But it is important people we often talk about and I say this all the time of things that we don't have and they need more of this.

They need more of that.

This is a perfect chance for you to come out.

and learn the information, ask the hard questions, because that's what it's about.

That's

what it's about.

You'll have people there that can answer an array of questions or situations that you may have.

You wonder, well, where can I go to get this?

Where can I go?

And Vercity Blood Center of Wisconsin will be able to answer those questions and direct you into the right area.

kill some of those myths.

Yeah,

yeah.

That's a big thing, Christian.

Yeah, I was

going to say for you.

I would just add to Homer to that is on the 25th, we are asking people to RSVP.

So we

have an Eventbrite, Versity Sickle Cell Summit.

So if you go on Eventbrite, just RSVP, we're going to have food, giveaways, all the things we just want to make sure we're tracking people.

Um, but also at the summit, our donor center, which is called versity on King will be open during that time too.

So if you want to donate, you can donate and then we'll also have our blood typing team there.

Okay.

So that's where you can learn your blood type in a matter of five minutes.

A lot of people walking around don't even know their blood type.

Yeah.

So you can learn your blood type and you can also learn if you have the RO antigen.

So the RO antigen.

with education.

So you may be O positive, but 50% of blacks and African Americans have this RO antigen in your blood.

And that is the blood that goes to people living with sickle cell disease, because it makes for the smoothest transfusion.

Okay.

So at diversity on King location, um, we try to host a lot of blood typing events because that neighborhood, I mean, we're right on MLK drive.

Um, a lot of, uh, black folks living in that neighborhood, we do find that there are a lot of RO donors in that specific neighborhood.

So we need people to come out, learn your blood type, potentially learn if you're a RO donor and then hopefully donate because then we'll have that blood on site.

Um, for those living with sickle cell disease.

So that's another piece.

So.

Oh,

because blood transfusion is really a big situation for those people who are living with sickle cell.

Yeah, they

often have to come

in and get a blood transfusion.

That's what it is.

Yeah.

So those crises, they need that that blood.

And so if the hospitals don't have the blood on hand, then what do we do?

Yeah, we have to make sure we have enough blood in these hospitals that are our role for those living with sickle cell.

So, Kristen, what what's the goal for all of this?

the summit yes not

only

the seven but for uh versity on king

oh versity on king um we've been open now for two years okay and so before

We had a presence in these neighborhoods.

So in the Brownsville neighborhood, but it was at a school or a church.

We'd have a mobile blood drive.

Okay.

But then it's like, if I missed the blood drive at my church, I forgot about versity.

I forgot about blood donation.

Right.

Um, in black and brown communities, we're not really being raised to go donate blood.

You know,

it's like, I

don't trust needles.

What's going on?

So us being in this community and in this neighborhood as a fixed donor center is saying.

come on a regular basis, come donate with us.

Don't

worry

about if you miss it at your church or your blood drive at your school or your son's school, child's school, we're here.

Get to

know our phlebotomists.

So we host tours, we allow students to come in and just get to see the process of donating blood.

We allow organizations to take over our donor center and maybe one person donates and then five more people get in the chair because they saw their friend, family member do it.

So just a lot of education in this building around

Just building trust.

You know,

we're not necessarily a hospital clinic, but we are a part of health care and we do have needles and we're in a black community.

And so there's a lot of mistrust.

There's a lot of I've seen Barb.

We've been out and people like, no, mess with needles.

No, I don't do that.

And people come in with all kind of tattoos.

Right.

So the goal and I would mention to versity on King is the only donor center in the country of the nation inside of a community resource hub.

Okay.

So

there's a lot of eyes on versity from a blood perspective.

you know, from Washington just to see how things go with us being in this community resource hub and what we can accomplish here.

All right,

we gotta get ready to take care of another set of bills.

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Welcome, Black Truth Nation.

I'm the legendary Homer Blow along with my girl,

Bailey Coleman.

And we're joined by Diversity Blood Center of Wisconsin.

We've got from the Thrive On King

location.

Yes.

We've got Barb, we've got Kristen, and we had James with us earlier.

James had to leave, but we good.

That part.

Shout out to James.

We appreciate you stopping by.

That part, that part.

The Sickle Cell Summit is coming up.

on September 25th, 2026 from 1 p.m.

to 4 p.m.

at Thrive on King in the Neighborhood Hall, 2153 North Dr. Martin Luther King Junior Drive.

Now, where can they go to register?

Because you are hoping that people will register to attend the summit.

Yep.

So you could go to Eventbrite, Versity Sickle Cell Summit.

Okay.

Just type it in there.

It's also on Versity Blood Center, Wisconsin on our social media.

We have a flyer with the QR code.

So just scan the QR code there.

Somewhat

on YouTube wanted to know.

Versity, have you connected to the national organization and the work that happens nationally?

Yes, we have.

We have researchers, sickle cell researchers at Versity who work very closely with national and they kind of relay that information to our team.

So we don't necessarily directly on the community education side, but the researchers do.

Why again because you guys went over this before but it bears repeating why blood donation is so important

It saves lives I mean anything you can think of a tragedy shooting stabbing complications with labor cancer patients sickle cell people living with sickle cell disease

the list goes on and on so

because our people we don't really even want to think about it now I remember being a young girl and my mom saying to me oh no because you know we would have this blood drive at school all

the

time now I wouldn't I was out in the suburbs I ain't gonna lie it was a shea shea poo poo a bit

it's

okay but she would always say no you need to wait if

you know, somebody in the family needs it, then you can donate, but not this just random stuff.

Nope.

Nope.

And I never like was like, I was mad cause I wanted to do it just cause I wanted to be with my friends, right?

But I never said, well, why not?

But I think she would have probably just said, just, you know, because later on it became.

I was actually the only person that could donate to my mother.

I had to do platelets, the blood, the whole deal because she was sick.

She had cancer.

And so my siblings weren't able to because they were sick and all kinds of stuff going on.

So, you know, what's the difference between me giving then and me just giving at random?

Nothing, right?

No.

You know,

there's no difference.

Yeah,

but you know, I want to say that One pint of your blood can save three lives.

There you go.

If you are organic tissue donor, you can save eight lives.

Wow.

Here's what I'm gonna say, right?

Here's my throat out there.

It's my throat out

there.

Y'all

ready?

Okay.

So can you please, because I believe that there are a lot of people that really get this confused.

Oh, I get blood every week.

I go to the plasma center.

Please.

Let's

talk

about it.

It's some people.

Yeah, I donate blood.

I think twice a week or half a month.

Yeah, do it or whatever.

So please break down.

Uh-huh.

The difference between people who are at a plasma center and an actual blood center.

They show up at our diversity on King location.

Sometimes like, I want to give plasma.

How much you guys pay?

It's a totally different experience.

They're literally, you're going to a plasma center, you're getting money and they can use that plasma for makeup products, testing who knows what.

That's it.

That doesn't go to hospitals, saving lives, none of that.

When you donate blood.

We, Vercity, give blood to all the hospitals in Wisconsin.

So if you're donating in Wisconsin, your blood is saving lives in Wisconsin.

Is there

still a shortage?

Oftentimes I hear about the shortage of blood donations, and it's also why I see a lot of organizations partnering with Vercity to

say,

hey, you can do it at my location.

You can

do it at my

location.

Is there a shortage?

And how important is it?

Because

you know it's a lot of people that are getting shot in

our community

and in those victims you know that blood if it's not there what what's next?

So right now we're okay so there are times where we had like SOS is where we're like we need blood now the end of the year we start to push it because people is getting cold they don't want to come out as much people are with family vacations things like that summer can be a little difficult sometimes too

with the kiddos out.

So we do a lot of blood drives at high schools.

So in schools out, family vacations.

But yeah, the colder months and sometimes the summer obviously with people traveling.

But yeah, people are constantly going through something.

So I know years ago when that guy ran his car through the Brookfield parade, everybody ran to go give blood.

Right.

But what people don't understand is that's great.

If we could get that energy all the time.

But that blood still has to be tested.

It has to go through a process.

We don't just take your blood and give it to Bailey to dark tomorrow.

You

know, so

I think people are like, how can I help?

How can I help when something bad happens?

But I try to tell people something bad is happening every day, unfortunately.

So we need that energy every day.

I'm going to yield my portion of my closing because I want Barb and you, Kristen, to kind of sum it up.

Again, the importance of what each of you do and why it's important people also come to the Sickle Cell Summit 2026.

I'd

like to say that it's important for me when I'm engaging with people in the community to understand that there is a help.

You know, I tell people I don't have a magic wand, but I'm willing to work with you if you work with me.

There's needs for transportation, food, clothing, housing, employment, you know, then we're going to get you connected to those resources.

And so I am that, I am that one that's seeking out, you know, what's available, what's that I can share with the community.

My service is not just to people living with sickle cell, but it's for the community.

I am here to work with you and for

you.

Chris.

I would just say education and awareness.

I think again, you know, I've been with diversity almost four years.

I knew what sickle cell kind of was, but now being in this role and just working closer with James.

it needs to be talked about, you know, beyond September.

So we're taking September to take this time.

We have several vendors that are going to be actually tabling at this event.

And when we mentioned it, we had people were coming us from all different organizations.

Can we table?

Can we meet people?

Can we talk about sickle sale?

We want to