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So you all have a summit coming up.
We do.
We have a sickle cell summit coming up at the end of the month next Friday, the 25th at Thrive on King from one to four.
So September sickle cell awareness month.
Yes.
Yes.
Mm hmm.
black
Well, yeah,
it's passed down through trait, but coming from African being African descended Malaria the higher presence of malaria sickle cell having that trait gene protect the people from getting malaria So it was beneficial over there, but in the US where we don't have a higher prevalence of malaria then When you get two parents together two people together who have that gene is passed down to a child and that's how we ended up with it.
So
Rooted back to history.
They do and every pregnancy is a 25% chance if both parents have the sickle cell gene that a child will have sickle cell
No both both parents have to get it because each parent passes on a set of genes and that makes up sickle cell Wow parents pass it down.
you may have heard of it as sickle cell trait.
Right.
Yeah.
So that's the gene that he's talking about.
Okay.
So both parents have that sickle cell trait.
That's past.
Yeah.
And one of the things with that when I know so many people that are living with sickle cell and know a lot of people who passed away from sickle cell and in knowing that and knowing how, how that works, is it
Familiar like some diseases that people may have where you can be like you could have the trait but not necessarily pass it on No, you have to have that trait gene to pass it on But I'm saying are there some people that are born that even though their parents may have it but they don't end up showing signs of having the sickle cell trait
Oh, yeah, that's that's true.
Yeah, that's that's that's where I was going because I know a lot of people like what my baby don't have it, right?
You don't understand they get tested How soon should people get tested?
Is it something that you can find right away?
Or is it something that?
After you continue to grow then you kind of learn that oh something isn't feeling right
yet No, the best practice is to get it tested when a baby is born.
So newborn screening
It's on the registry list now, so every baby born here in Wisconsin will get tested and screened for a sickle cell trait.
Okay.
Christian, for someone who has heard of sickle cell disease but doesn't know much about it, why is this again an important community health conversation?
And we need people to come out because oftentimes people hear certain things about different summits or health fairs and
they don't end up attending
right
Yeah, I think for us at VersaD, you know, September, I said a sickle cell awareness month,
it's a disease that isn't talked about a lot.
You don't see commercials.
You don't see
TV shows around it.
You don't see billboards, all the things that you may see for another disease, which is sickle cell is just as important to highlight.
So adversity, we are a blood center.
So sickle cell is a blood disorder, blood disease.
So we're taking it upon ourselves to have a sickle cell summit.
Where we're going to educate not only just community members,
but
those living with sickle cell clinical Doctors nurses who work with those living with sickle cell the caregivers for people who are taking care of those living with sickle cell because that's a toll too and just talk about the overall disease we're gonna have some of our Researchers that are doing the research around sickle cell disease from versity will have some doctors who actually treat those living with sickle cell disease from children's speaking about
their experience and what they see in the clinics.
And then we'll also have some sickle cell warriors, people living with sickle cell that'll be speaking on the panel to talk about their experience.
I can let James.
Well, just living with sickle cell disease, it affects the family because it's something that the child is always in pain or may have daily pain or go through pain.
And so.
those parents have to take care of that child and take their child to the hospital and people don't understand the amount of effort it takes to take care of a child with sickle cell and the parents usually have to end up not working because the child has either chronic pain all the time or it's just constantly up and down and in and out of pain and so it makes it hard for a parent to work.
Growing up my mother had to quit her job just so she could take care of me because as a
child I was in
the hospital so much.
Wow.
It was a monthly thing and so
you know, it makes it hard to work and affects the whole parent.
It's excruciating.
So I don't know if you've ever jammed your hand in a door or not.
I could just kind of compare it to that.
The intensity of it is much more greater and on a greater scale.
So to me, it feels like my body's being squeezed in a vice grip or just being hit with like a baseball bat.
It's just that painful that
You can't do anything about it, but take pain medications
like
morphine and hope that works.
If
you go to the hospital and they give you
pain medication and IV fluids.
And we, uh, and for those who are listening again, we're joined by versity and James Griffin, the brother that we are speaking with, uh, he's living with sickle cell disease since childhood.
So it's.
Great to have somebody in here that can really talk about what those crisis are, are like, because he lives it.
Right.
Um, how, you know, to know that you're with adversity, like today, what would happen right now if you were to go into a crisis?
What, what, what, what is that real life, real time?
Because I know some people, as you were saying that every moment of the day, sometimes.
It's a challenge, but we see some of these people and they be at work and it's like you having a crisis, but you know, but you still working so Talk about that part because there's a lot of people trust me that I know that are living with sickle cell like you
Yeah, over time you learn how to manage it.
So it's different pain levels.
So if you can have pain every day, but some pain is just Not a variable.
Yeah, it's not as string with us other pain is so
it can come on gradually and then just snowball into an effect where one minute you can be fine and then something can trigger
it like a cold weather or just
humidity or just even like strenuous workouts so
that can come
on and that can lead you to have to have more pain and then you know that's when it gets intense and you have to do something about it and you leave work and you know go get treated.
I would just say just being the only one living with sickle cell in my family Just feeling like I was alone But I've always had to support of my family and so they had to either start what they were doing to check on me help me out Give me to the hospital pick up prescriptions.
I need it
So it's it affects the whole family and that's something that people don't understand about the disease It's
not just like it's one
person me going through it.
It's a whole family because it creates You know a lot of attention that
sickle cell
causes because you know the pain is unbearable You always have to watch out and understand and
That
have.
Some have the trait and then none have have anything.
OK.
And so I want to go back to what I said about the newborn screen.
I want to make sure that I say it correctly.
They actually test for sickle cell disease.
Okay.
The trade
has to be going through the hospital and you have to ask the doctor and request for it.
And it's something called electrophoresis where they can easily just like a finger poke.
Okay.
So that's how people find out.
it was at an early age.
So I was about two years old and I was playing across the hall from my parents.
And all of a sudden, I let out a loud scream.
And when my mother went to check on me, she noticed
my hand.
It was swollen and
puffy.
And in that moment, she had to take me to the hospital because there was no evidence of anything that
I've had
done to make my hands swell up.
And she couldn't calm me down.
And so I was taken to the hospital.
And so that's like the first signs that it's shown.
It's either hand syndrome or put syndrome.
It's a different type of word for it.
But your hands swell up or your feet swell up.
That's the cause for concern and that's usually how it shows in presents in early ages.
Okay.
All right, we got to get ready take care of some bills, but we're gonna definitely get a Barb involved here, right?
Because you have a very very important role and It's all coming together, you know, I'm saying collective.
That's that's what we have to do
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we're gonna get to you and christen uh some more but uh james a lot of the people that i know and you know i'm i'm blessed that i've never been you know diagnosed with the sickle cell trait but they hate to go to the hospital but they because they had to take a lot of morphine and a lot of them say that you know well you it's addictive and so a lot of them smoke weed
I'm talking about like they smoke weed as if it's legal.
You know what
But to them, they says that it helps them with the pain or, you know, when they're dealing with a crisis and it kind of calms them down.
Talk about that.
Do you have to take morphine?
Are you afraid of, you know, and because you've been dealing with this from childhood to now, things may have gotten a little bit better for you to be able to manage when you're having a crisis.
But.
Were you a victim of that to where it's like a morphine again morphine again, but at the same time it took away the pain
Oh for me I Never really got feel like I was gonna become addicted if it's just something that I had to go through with having morphine the second I was out of pain I was able to cut off the
The morphine stop taking it, but I know people like that and they do deal with you mentioned smoking they do deal with it that way because It's just another therapy for them But I would say that it's not wise to smoke because of the oxygen sickle cell effects It's because of a decrease of oxygen and that's why your blood cells sickle and
so
smoking could limit that oxygen that's going to your body and it could cause other things like chest pain So I don't think it's wise to smoke
So I never was one to smoke, but I know it's something that's being studied in and has to be studied about the use of medicinal drugs.
And I think it would be wise for, you know, the oils, people
but not smoking.
So now with where where you are after, you know, being obviously born with it and going through it, how is life for you now?
How are you able to because.
We hear that it's uncontrollable, but are there advancements in treatments or medicine that help you to cope better and could help other sickle cell anemia patients cope better?
Yeah, I'm on a medication now.
Hydroxurea that came out in 99, I believe, but just being put on that helped me to stay away from having crisis and just
able
to live a healthy, normal life because.
You know, it works on the body.
It prevents the body from having those crises.
And so it was just something that I tried, and it worked for me, thankfully.
I know other people, everybody is different.
Some people, it doesn't work.
And so they're still looking for ways to treat their pain.
But it's research out there that's being studied, gene therapy.
But unfortunately, everybody won't be able to get that.
And so we have to figure out other avenues.
And I think people have to just really learn.
It's
a learning
process every day living with sickle cell and what works what doesn't
I found
out eating the right foods eating healthy
and also drinking like
water I consume a lot of water and Eliminate
junk food the sweets for my diet, so it's bigger
if somebody was to just See you out about and you went into a severe crisis What should we as the public like as a person be like what the hell wrong with him?
What's going on with him?
What should people do or what is the reaction that people can do to try to help someone if they are going through a sickle cell crisis?
I think the first thing is to immediately just take them to the emergency room because you never know what's going on.
It's a lot of complications that can happen from sickle cell like it can cause strokes.
It can cause organ damage, tissue death, bone death.
And so it's important to just take that person immediately to the hospital so they can assess them.
What
Is there a certain thing like some people you might just be screaming?
You don't understand so like what what is that?
Crisis kind of look like some people may have seen people going through actual crisis and didn't know what the hell it was,
yeah Because of the pain people may grab at their arms.
They may grab at their back
or just be screaming, like you said, it's so intense and the intensity of it was the problem.
It affects the body and it's just excruciating itself.
If you see somebody bent over or hard to breathe or just grabbing at their arms, legs, or just screaming in pain, I'm having pain, then I think that's when we can address them and just take them away to the hospital or even call 911.
Okay,
Yeah, a lot of few some vegetables and I cut out the fried foods.
So the chicken is baked now just a lot of fish and so I just think like
Anything that's water because the water hydrates your body and keeps sales from sticking together and that's kind of where you get those crisis because it creates blockages when the sales stick together.
And so I just think anything that's heavy in water is good for you.
things.
We've got Andy on the Truth Call in lines, and maybe he has a question that you may be able to help him with, James.
Andy, great morning.
Love you.
Appreciate you.
You hear the conversation.
We are joined by Vercity here in the studio talking about the Sickle Cell Anemia Summit that will be coming up.
And what's your truth?
What's your question?
Okay.
Can you hear me?
Yes.
Okay.
Well, my truth is, first of all, Sickle Cell, it takes me back.
Well, most recently, I just lost a cousin, first cousin to sick of disease in April.
The doctor told the family he wouldn't live to be maybe 25, but he lived to be 56, able to see kids and grandkids.
And so I'm grateful for that.
Also, I worked at a hospital some years ago, and I remember this young lady would come in young lady.
about in her 20s, and she has tic-a-fail disease, and they would barely treat her, and they would say, oh, she's just a drug seeker, and that just really helped me to my heart, you know.
So I think more attention and training needs to be done to these doctors and nurses and everything to be more enlightened about what these people go through, because that was just terrible.
And also, I know a family, the lady had three boys, and all the boys had tickle cells, and they died at a young age in their 20s.
Now, is this something that's predominantly, maybe with males, more so than females?
I'm
No, I just live life.
I just take everything day to time.
I just I just don't even think about it.
I know they place limits on how long you live, but I don't go by that.
I go by my God.
And so I just worry about living life daily.
Mm-hmm.
But but I want to say something about that because that's what we hear.
She mentioned the stigma about going to the hospital.
And this is why some people fight and try to hold off as long as possible because it is stigma since sickle cell effects, African-Americans, people of African descent.
And we're not being treated by our own people.
We do face that heavy level of racism within the medical care.
We have
to advocate for ourselves just to get back and get
seen.
And so
it creates another added barrier to our treatment.
We are considered drug seekers.
We're considered frequent fliers, always coming into the hospital.
We're considered non-compliant and just bad patients.
And so it's definitely a misunderstanding of people with sickle cell.
And I think because of the negative images and stereotypes that they have on black people, as
a
whole, it affects people when it comes to treatment.
And so that's why we get those stigmas.
Yeah, so I have a primary care watches the numbers watches over me prescribes the medication, but when the pain happens after work hours, you know, I have to be treated an emergency room and
And so these people are not familiar with people with
sickle cell.
And so
they run their emergency room the way they want
to run it.
And it's up to them.
The primary doctor has no say
in
how they treat you.
And so you're seeing a lot of different doctors, even the nurses have control
of
what pain medications
to give you the amount.
And so
that's what the trouble comes
in and to effect.
And so it's very hard
on a person with sickle cell.
And it's actually disheartening.
It makes people want to give up because they feel like.
If I'm in here and I'm in this pain, I'm being judged for the condition that I was born with, which I didn't choose.
And I can't do anything
And the people on the front line aren't treating me, the nurses, the doctors.
Then why should I even keep going on?
So it's the mental battle.
It's important to continue to learn about sickle cell.
People think sickle cell has gone away.
We're still dealing with the same issues.
Sickle cell is still affecting us as people, African descent.
And so it's important to get the information, get the knowledge, and you as a person can help advocate for us, because the more voices we have, the more effect change we can make together, and we're stronger together.
And so it's important to come out and just
understand about sickle cell.
So, you know, there are children that should be there if you have a child that has sickle cell, family members and friends that don't understand it and can look out for the signs that James has talked about.
So it's important that everybody comes out.
We got to get ready to take care of some bills.
James Griffin, thank you very much.
Thank you, James.
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Well, I've seen situations where.
just as any of us, utility, financial, school, employment, where a parent has to quit working to take care of their child, but there's no income coming in to supplement that.
Or if the parent has medical concerns for themselves, they have to focus on that child.
If there's multiple children in a home, school clothing.
school issues, community issues.
You know, these are barriers that the caregivers have to carry and deal with on a daily basis.
And so where I come in with that, once we come in contact, because anyone that has social determinant health needs to find resources within the community to support their
You know there's a plan in place I've worked with children for over 30 something years.
Okay, and my last five years was within the sickle cell clinic and there's a 504 plan that
parents have, you know, they can submit to their employer, you know, making them aware that they have a child is dealing with this chronic illness.
Okay.
And so that too can be various because even the schools sometimes don't recognize the needs that the child has because they are living with sickle cell.
I was just speaking with a child parent the other day and she was sharing with me that her son feels like he's picked on and picked out because of the fact that he's living with sickle cell.
Children feel like you know, he's contagious and they can get it from him and rather than understanding that they make fun of
10 years of age you shouldn't have to deal with that.
No,
correct education is the best resource to get anyone to come to an understanding what they're dealing
How does MPS receive y'all being able to come in to talk to the children about sickle cell?
Because again, sometimes not every child really knows what it is that they're going through.
Their parents may know, but they may not really understand.
And the message that you just gave about being picked on and thinking, oh, you can get it just because you.
See them or know the child or whatever right?
Are they do they allow you to go into the schools to kind of like speak on it on different occasions just so the students can Learn and even some of the staff right you don't understand because we can all be naive to it because if it doesn't affect us then it doesn't matter
Well, there are schools that allow you to come in and in my previous role where we will go in and talk with the administrators, the teachers, to bring an understanding to school nurses, to help bring an understanding to what this child is living with and dealing with.
The students, we have right now with Bursity, the street teams,
White that goes into the school and speak with the teachers and the students in regards to situations and circumstances that.
they're dealing with.
Yeah, because I think that's so important because again, like I say, I can just imagine what some of the children are going through.
And then when they're going through a crisis all of a sudden, because they could come on at any time.
And then other children just be like, oh, like, you know, see, I told you, don't touch him and all of that.
The ignorance that we right in these situations.
So right, I'm happy to hear that.
I'm happy to hear that.
This is like a ministry to me.
When I meet with families, I listen.
And that's very important to listen, not only to the caregiver, but to that child.
And once you gain their trust, you're able to work together and come to resolutions.
Again, like I said, it's like a ministry for me to listen and find out where I can fit in to help support them.
Okay.
In their daily
Now, uh, just a reminder for people again, we have Vercity in the studio with us from the Vercity Blood Center of Wisconsin.
This sickle cell summit that we're talking about sickle cell summit 2026 is taking place on September 25th from one PM to four PM at thrive on King in the neighborhood hall.
2153 North Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
Drive and and it is free and and you need to come out to be informed if you have sick of cell it would be great for you to come out because It's a summit and you may be able to get up and tell your truth in
how hard it may have been to get your family to understand what it is.
Uh, uh, your, your husband or your wife or, you know, uh, just your, your mate, whoever it may be to better get an understanding of what it is and, and how, you know, you're going through things.
So September 25th, 1pm to 4pm at thrive on King.
It is the Vercity Blood Center of Wisconsin Sickle Cell Summit 2026.
So we want you to make sure you come out again.
It's free.
So 2153 North Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
Drive and Vercity is also located inside of the Thrive on King.
But it is important people.
We often talk about and I say this all the time of things that we don't have and they need more of this.
They need more of that.
This is a perfect chance for you to come out.
and learn the information, ask the hard questions, because that's what it's about.
That's
You'll have people there that can answer an array of questions or situations that you may have.
You wonder, well, where can I go to get this?
Where can I go?
And Vercity Blood Center of Wisconsin will be able to answer those questions and direct you into the right area.
kill some of those myths.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a big thing.
Christian.
That's the thing.
Yeah, I was gonna say for you.
Yeah.
just add to Homer to that is on the 25th we are asking people to RSVP.
So we
have an Eventbrite Bursity Sickle Cell Summit.
So if you go on Eventbrite, just RSVP, we're gonna have food, giveaways, all the things we just want to make sure we're tracking people.
Um, but also at the summit, our donor center, which is called versity on King will be open during that time too.
So if you want to donate,
donate and then we'll also have our blood typing team there.
So that's where you can learn your blood type in a matter of five minutes.
people walking around don't even know their blood
So you can learn your blood type and you can also learn if you have the RO antigen.
So the RO antigen.
you may be O positive, but 50% of blacks and African Americans have this RO antigen in your blood.
And that is the blood that goes to people living with sickle cell disease because it makes for the smoothest transfusion.
Okay, so at diversity on King location We try to host a lot of blood typing events because that neighborhood I mean right on MLK Drive A lot of black folks living in that neighborhood
we do find that there are a lot of RO donors in that specific neighborhood So we need people to come out learn your blood type potentially learn if you're a RO donor and then hopefully donate Because then we'll have that blood on site for those living with sickle cell disease.
another piece so
Oh,
that that blood.
And so if the hospitals don't have the blood on hand, then what do we do?
Yeah, we have to make sure we have enough blood in these hospitals that are our role for those living with sickle cell.
oh versity on king um we've been open now for two years okay and so before
We had a presence in these neighborhoods.
So in the Brownsville neighborhood, but it was at a school or a church.
We'd
mobile blood drive.
But then it's like, if I missed the blood drive at my church, I forgot about versity.
I forgot about blood donation.
Um, in black and brown communities, we're not really being raised to go donate blood.
You know,
it's like, I
don't trust needles.
What's going on?
So us being in this community and in this neighborhood as a fixed donor center is saying, come.
on a regular basis, come donate with us.
Don't
worry
about if you miss it at your church or your blood drive at your school or your son's school, child's school.
We're here.
Get to
know our phlebotomists.
So we host tours.
We allow students to come in and just get to see the process of donating blood.
We allow organizations to take over our donor center and maybe one person donates and then five more people get in the chair because they saw their friend, family member do it.
So just a lot of education in this building around.
Just building trust.
You know,
we're not necessarily a hospital clinic, but we are a part of health care and we do have needles and we're in a black community.
And so there's a lot of mistrust.
There's a lot of I've seen Barb.
We've been out and people like, no, mess with needles.
No, I don't do that.
And people come in with all kind of tattoos.
some.
The goal and I would mention too, Vercity on King is the only donor center in the country of the nation inside of a community resource hub.
So
there's a lot of eyes on Vercity from a blood perspective.
you know, from Washington just to see how things go with us being in this community resource hub and what we can accomplish here.
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Yep, so you could go to Eventbrite Vercity Sickle Cell Summit.
Okay, just type it in there.
It's also on Vercity Blood Center Wisconsin on our social media.
We have a flyer with the QR code.
So just scan the QR code there.
Yes, we have.
We have researchers, sickle cell researchers at Versity who work very closely with national and they kind of relay that information to our team.
So we don't necessarily directly on the community education side, but the researchers do.
It saves lives I mean anything you can think of a tragedy shooting stabbing complications with labor cancer patients sickle cell people living with sickle cell disease
the list goes on and on.
So
the
And I never like was like, I was mad cause I wanted to do it just cause I wanted to be with my friends, right?
But I never said, well, why not?
But I think she would have probably just said, just, you know, because later on it became.
I was actually the only person that could donate to my mother.
I had to do platelets, the blood, the whole deal because she was sick.
She had cancer.
And so my siblings weren't able to because they were sick and all kinds of stuff going on.
So, you know, what's the difference between me giving then and me just giving at random?
Nothing, right?
No.
You know,
there's no difference.
but you know, I want to say that One pint of your blood can save three lives.
you go.
If you are organic tissue donor, you can save eight lives.
Here's what I'm gonna say, right?
Here's my throat out there.
It's my throat out there.
Y'all ready?
Okay, so can you please because I believe that there are a lot of people that really get this confused.
Oh, I get blood every week.
I go to the plasma center.
Please.
Let's let's talk about it.
It's some people.
Yeah, I don't need blood.
I think twice a week or half alone.
Yeah, do it or whatever.
So please break down.
Uh-huh.
The difference between people who are at a plasma center and an actual blood center.
They show up at our diversity on King location.
Sometimes like, I want to give plasma.
How much you guys pay?
It's a totally different experience.
They're literally, you're going to a plasma center, you're getting money and they can use that plasma for makeup products, testing who knows what.
That's it.
That doesn't go to hospitals, saving lives, none of that.
When you donate blood.
We, Vercity, give blood to all the hospitals in Wisconsin.
So if you're donating in Wisconsin, your blood is saving lives in Wisconsin.
Oftentimes I hear about the shortage of blood donations, and it's also why I see a lot of organizations partnering with Vercity to say, hey, you can do it at my location.
You can do it at my location.
Is there a shortage?
And how important is it?
Because
You know, it's a lot of people that are getting shot in our community.
And in those victims, you know, that blood, if it's not there, what what's next?
So right now we're OK.
So
are times where we have like SOS is where we're like, we need blood now.
The end of the year, we start to push it because people is getting cold.
They don't want to come out as much.
People are with family vacations, things like that.
Summer can be a little difficult sometimes, too.
with the kiddos out.
So we do a lot of blood drives at high schools.
So in schools out, family vacations.
But yeah, the colder months and sometimes the summer obviously with people traveling.
But yeah, people are constantly going through something.
So I know years ago when that guy ran his car through the Brookfield parade, everybody ran to go give blood.
what people don't understand is that's great.
If we could get that energy all the time.
But that blood still has to be tested.
It has to go through a process.
We don't just take your blood and give it to Bailey to dark tomorrow.
You
know, so
I think people are like, how can I help?
How can I help when something bad happens?
But I try to tell people something bad is happening every day, unfortunately.
So we need that energy every day.
I'd like to say that it's important for me when I'm engaging with people in the community to understand that there is a help.
You know, I tell people I don't have a magic wand, but I'm willing to work with you if you work with me.
There's needs for transportation, food, clothing, housing, employment, you know, then we're going to get you connected to those resources.
And so I am that, I am that one that's seeking out, you know, what's available, what's that I can share with the community.
My service is not just to people living with sickle cell, but it's for the community.
I am here to work with you and for you.
Chris.
I would just say education and awareness.
I think again, you know, I've been with diversity almost four years.
I knew what sickle cell kind of was, but now being in this role and just working closer with James.
It needs to be talked about, you know, beyond September.
So we're taking September to take this time.
We have several vendors that are going to be actually tabling at this event.
And when we mentioned it, we had people were coming us from all different organizations.
Can we table?
Can we meet people?
Can we talk about sickle sale?
We want to know more.
So there is the need.
And so I just want to get people educated.
I want people to learn their blood type.
I want us black and brown people to understand we need to donate, you know, we we need to start trusting.
We have phlebotomists that work at diversity on King location, who some of them live in the neighborhood.
So they're of their community, you know, they're they're trustworthy.
So we want people to just just donate and get educated.
So
I'm blessed, you know.
You don't learn a day.
So we got a hour full of...
special guests that will be in from Bursity in the 8 a.m.
Hour so from 8 a.m.
To 9 a.m.
On Truth in the Morning will be joined by Bursity and you know which is located inside well they have different locations but we know they're have a location inside the thrive on King building
The 20th.
OK, air 20 fire.
I can't sing, but you know what I'm saying?
You don't remember that that's a classy.
That's just like Papa was a rolling stone It was the you know the third of September that day.
I always remember that was the day Come on these songs are classic Bailey can't act like you don't remember those dates It's so you know people listen to some of those other pop songs and they'll remember the phone
number
Don't even do it.
If you can't remember the 3rd of September, come on.
It was the 3rd of September.
Oh, now we
That day, I'll always
here
And but I lost two brothers to prostate cancer So and one of them just passed this last year this past September so one year ago, right and one year ago this month
And my other brother passed away about, what, six, seven years ago now.
And, you know, those are things that are important for people to understand.
It's important for you to get ahead of things like that.
Right.
Now, you know,
both of their, you know, their illnesses were definitely terminal.
And, um, but I will say this, that they both, one, what was crazy was one lived longer than the other because of the other ones.
Uh, because, uh, you know, people talk about the trials and all the
gotten prostate cancer.
Um, he, uh, he did a bunch of trials and not only to try to help extend his life, which they did, but also, you know, his thing was, Hey, if I can help somebody else that's in the situation, you know, and he did, he's helped thousands of people.
One main trial that he did that, uh, really, uh, my brother, when he was diagnosed, uh, he ended up living, he was stage four prostate cancer.
Actually, both of my brothers were stage four when they were diagnosed.
Um, and my brother, I think he lived an additional, I think it was about 12 years.
After a stage four, I don't know if y'all know what stage four is in stage.
Yeah, that's like there's only one stage after that right and so Yeah, he he added on to his life and was able to help even my older brother live longer by some of the medications that he He received so which proved to be helpful
my older brother his life was extended as well but you know these are the types of things we want to information we want to get out there not just for breast cancer because we're always we're always talking about that yes man get breast
They absolutely do get breast cancer as well.
But we also want to talk about prostate cancer.
We have men and women listening to us and your health and your life are important to us as well.
This is one thing that Shari and I came together on after I hosted Sister's Network event she day and Shari.
And I came together on this and said, this is something we need to do for our community.
Absolutely.
There's a lot of things going on.
There's a lot of walks and all this kind of stuff.
And that's great.
The more ways we can get information out there, the better.
But this is about you all and us being able to help you.
So we hope everyone will come out.
We'll talk about it more later on in the show, the date, and all the
And again, it's also another very important reason why, again, shout out to Harambe and shout out to Wesker in August, the second weekend in August, when I'm a part of the health fair that they do for men, but they also have things for women as well.
But we know that...
A lot of men and I talked about this when doing it are stubborn.
Yeah.
Again, because when you get to that reactive stage, like I say, a lot of people, when they get to the reactive stage, they've almost given up on themselves.
It's like, I didn't lost the battle.
So unlike how your brothers were like, hey, OK, I want to fight.
Okay, let me go on and try these trials.
Let me,
Anita Nicole said I've lost loved ones to cancer and some were under the age of 45 years old screening is so important.
It is.
We got to get ready.
Take care of some bills.
Don't forget coming up in the eight o'clock hour.
We'll be joined with versity and giving you talking about that important information and events that are coming up that you need to make sure you take part in.
Yeah, you don't want to miss that interview from eight to nine this morning.
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Bailey, there's a, you know, there's a lot of situations, people talking about the shooting of Prentice Smith and the, with the policy, the standard operating procedure, the family is allowed to see the video or they must be allowed to see the video within 48 hours.
Right.
After an interaction like that.
And it'll be made public.
Two weeks after, like in 15 days, 15 to 15 days.
So the public, we still have another week before we should be able to see that body cam footage from law enforcement.
And we know that the family, when the mother saw the video, I don't know who I was with her when she watched the body cam footage.
And she was like, nope.
You know, my son didn't have a gun out or he didn't shoot the officers.
So from what her vantage point and the family's vantage point is that it was, you know, unjustifiable.
There then attorney B ivory Lamar ended up joining the family and taking on the case.
And they're, you know, trying to make sure that justice is served or it was, you know,
fair.
It was a clean, you know, response by Milwaukee law enforcement.
So we now have a situation where the police association, I believe, get a Yala, I believe.
So he is saying the Milwaukee Police Union, he has a difference of opinion and a different viewpoint.
And we're gonna play that because it says Milwaukee police union and family attorney disagree after watching body camera Video of the deadly shooting now be ivory Lamar in this clip.
You'll hear him say that he hasn't seen the video So he's going
by the
family mother has seen and heard feel unlike nope Nah, something's not right.
Something's not right.
So we're gonna play this clip from W is in 12
And we want to talk about it and
Because again, we know that there's a lot of tension between law enforcement and people in the community.
And it's not just here.
It's a lot of other places as well.
Right.
So Xavier, great morning.
Love you.
Appreciate you.
If you had that clip queued up, we can run that clip.
And in Truth Nation, we need to talk about it.
Get your thoughts.
Bring interpretations of what actually happened during last Tuesday's deadly police shooting now coming to light.
The family of Princess Smith questions if their son even fired the gun that police say was in his hand during the deadly encounter in the Metcalf Park neighborhood while the president of the police union remains fully convinced that his officers actions were justified.
12 News Maddie Augustine is one on one with both tonight.
Days after a Milwaukee police officer shot and killed 23-year-old Prentice Smith near 37th and Minakie, the president of the police union and Smith's parents at odds.
The feelings and emotions from what they saw was described as being an execution.
That's what they described it as
being.
The family saw the same video that we did today and that video clearly shows the opposite.
Milwaukee Police Association President Alexander Ayala says his officer is being falsely accused and the body camera video of the deadly incident is clear.
Ayala says officers were in pursuit of the vehicle Smith was in on September 8th.
Then Ayala says Smith ran off and officers followed.
When the officer gives commands, the suspect does not acknowledge those commands instead.
turns around, makes eye contact with the officer.
I mean, that's, you know, that's target accusation right there.
The officer grabs them, and then that's where the fighting suits.
And then you see a few seconds later, what you'll see is going to be the suspect holding a gun with his finger and the trigger pulled all the way back.
at
the scene last week.
Police Chief Jeffrey Norman said the video showed Smith appear to fire.
Be ivory Lamar, the Smith family's attorney has not seen the video himself, only relaying what Smith's parents have told him.
Acknowledging Smith did have a gun in his hand, but questions if deadly force was justified and if Smith ever fired his weapon.
If the officer.
that he was shot in the leg.
I want to know that that bullet come from the firearm of Princess or was that bullet self inflicted
that suspect shot my officer in the leg and there's a video that obviously shows that
Lamar says they're calling for the video to be released immediately.
This family wants transparency.
They want the facts and they just want the truth to come out.
You know if the.
shooting was justified, it is what it is.
Certainly an interesting back and forth there.
Maddie joins us live from the newsroom.
Maddie, department policy requires MPD to release body camera videos from critical incidents like this over the 15 days.
Do we know if that video will be released before next week?
Blake, we asked police that but MPD only saying in response that they would release the video according to their standard operating procedure.
So it could still be about a week before we get to see that video.
I think she's a grieving mother and I think I would You know I Understand you know when parents see their kids they see the sweet kid No, no matter how old they get mm-hmm.
They see the baby
Oh, yeah.
Your baby even had a gun in his hand and that alone is a threat.
You know, that alone is a threat to a police officer.
Unfortunately, and that's that's that's it, Homer.
I mean, I understand how she feels.
I mean, I get it.
Right.
Because.
You don't never want nothing to happen, especially to your child.
You know, but.
You know.
Even just have having him having a gun in his hand could put him in jeopardy.
Right.
It's not just with the police.
It could put him in jeopardy with anybody.
You know, and that's that's the thing we have to take into consideration.
But I mean.
I feel for her, I really do, because you don't want your baby.
Your kids are not supposed to pass away before you do, but always remember, we put ourselves in situations.
We are, as parents, I hope we're a good example for our kids.
At least be okay, you know what I mean?
But he out here in a bad area,
And it looks like he might have.
I don't know, but I know he had a gun in his hand and that didn't look good.
Everybody agrees on that one fact.
I don't know about the rest.
I don't know who shot what or
It's just like, you know, and I know that and it's not only when someone may lose their life.
It's a lot of times that people question how law enforcement.
I don't think it was this, even if the person wasn't fatally wounded.
Right.
But in so many other instances, nah, we want to see the video.
They have a standard operating procedure.
So, yeah, it's right away.
Right.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And so I just need people to understand when we talking about release it right away.
You still got to remember.
Especially with law enforcement.
It's an ongoing investigation.
Yeah,
sometimes even at your job.
Yeah,
it's like, okay, well, we got to investigate to see if this really happened.
Now they got to go talk to different people.
We want to
We.
Oh, I need to see it right now, but we still have to follow the process and the policy that is there.
It has been amended.
So I think people should also.
be happy about that.
Yeah, that it's at least amended because it wasn't that before.
Right.
It wasn't that.
So, you know, that's why I'm saying, you know, we get it.
Like I said, we get the fact that if you are the immediate family and your friends of and all of that for you, I need it now.
We in this microwave society
It's like, again, the unfortunate, and I'm not saying this situation will be that, but the situation on Mill Road, when it was a road rage incident.
Yeah.
And the family and other people, all the social media, especially here was like, ah, he didn't have no, he didn't have no.
And then when it was time for them to
Release it in 48 hours for the mother and the family
Right.
They ended up So this is why I say, you know, we we definitely want to make sure that we understand that I know we're we're we're blood thirsty.
We're hungry We are now now that it that's not how it works.
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Before we went to break, we were talking about the difference of opinion between the Milwaukee Police Union's President, Alexander Yala, and the family, and the family's attorney, B. Ivory Lamar, of Prentice Smith, who was the young man that was killed on 37th and right or monarchy.
It was after a pursuit and there was obviously he was found with a weapon, two weapons on him, allegedly one he had in his hand, one he had in his waistband.
And there was a third gun found in the vehicle.
One got away, but law enforcement appears to know who they're looking for from what they said in the media and on, you know, TV or whatnot.
So.
I haven't heard any updates if he if he's been apprehended as of yet.
But so we can't, you know, because of the one in the car, they were both in the car.
So we can't say if that third weapon was something that was in the possession of Prince Smith or not.
be news, you know what
It would be breaking news.
The second person has been apprehended or something, but I haven't heard or seen any updates in that area.
So I have to take it for now as if they don't have that person in custody and with such a high profile situation like this, I think that they would want to let us know right away.
Like, okay, we got the other person.
Right.
We got the other person.
So yeah, but uh, eight, three, three, two, one, two, 10, 17.
Uh, what's your truth when it comes to the situation?
I know we get antsy.
Like I say, we want to see it now.
We want to see it now.
We want to see it now.
We don't want to follow the process.
Right.
I just want
Whatever the situation is I want to give it the time to to play out and I'm saying this Bailey when I talk about these things I Want people to know and I can only speak for myself that if I was the the victim of a situation like this I would still want the process to play out the way it's
know, I think I think Bailey, it's like anybody that has really had any kind of situation where there could be a lawsuit or it could be a trial.
You are on trial for something or you've been arrested for something.
And as much as you want to end up saying the truth of what, you know, no.
What is the first thing a great lawyer is going to tell you?
Don't talk about the case.
go because again, some people don't realize and they don't respect the fact of when they say anything you say can and this the big word will be used against you in the court of law.
So you out there, cause you want to get your side out and you want to tell what you want to tell.
And now all of that can be used against you.
And now people telling you, uh, you should take that post now, but you up there on the post talking about, yeah, and I take out any of them and you know, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, dah, you making threats against law enforcement or other people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You probably, you probably didn't want to put that post up.
because that post can come back and give probable cause and motive.
cousin is
That all of that goes for what's his name, too?
I just don't feel like I feel like he irritates the situation when he come up starting to talk about all that and I'm like, you know what you know, you got a little inside track or whatever, but you need to chill.
Let the let you may be representing the officers, but you're not representing the department and it would be better and less irritating for the community.
and less agitating for the family, because that family seemed like they're ready to go at it now, right?
And it would be less agitating for them if he didn't do that.
Just be quiet.
Well, again, I think it's just the human nature of it all, Bailey.
That's why I think the debt comes out.
The same way that other people should probably not be saying anything, but when you are being battered, when you are being pummeled,
by the public opinion, you get what I'm saying?
So when you're being
opposed to so I can understand if I'm being battered, even though the lawyer has said, don't say nothing, right?
Man, they, they, they, they, they chair me apart out here.
I get it.
But you can't say nothing.
Don't say nothing.
Man, man, I'm telling you now, if I see some more, well, a couple more things, man, I don't know, man, I'm happy to get my opinion be heard.
So I think that, you know, sometimes that thing can happen.
And especially for him, you know, the whole law enforcement is his family.
You're going to say
it.
So it's like,
OK, y'all family saying this, OK, my family, I'm going to represent for my family and say this.
But in the end.
We'll all get to see and the good thing about when we get to see it as the public, uh, like I say, we got another week or so, uh, or less than that we'll be able to see it.
And I like the fact that they slow it down.
They draw circles around what you're seeing they describe what you were seeing so you'll be able to say oh Okay, cuz that's what they did in that other case
To all the family and friends of Princess Smith because nobody wants to have to go through something like this You know it's a tragedy all around the board and I think Not just you know to try to justify one way or another But you got to think of what those law enforcement officers to also have to deal with I
You know, we know that there are some quote unquote rogue law enforcement, right?
But I don't think that a lot of these officers go out here.
I can't.
I'm going to just kill somebody today.
I'm I'm going to use, you know, deadly force because of the situation.
So they got it.
They going through some things, too,
in my
saying?
So
on the things and I'm like okay yes even though this person hit in my hit uh my daughter's car and caused her injuries or whatnot if it was truly a situation after an investigation found out that she was negligent
right
you know so as much as I want to hate you would be mad
at you
That's why I salute the law enforcement, the firefighters, the EMTs, because they got to be right there.
They got to sit there and work with these bodies that they know.
They're not getting any sign of life, but here they are for 40 minutes, 45 minutes, still doing CPR.
Right.
Even though you may have seen pupils dilate it, you go, you know what I'm
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What's the address to Thrive on King?
Homer, you got the address.
So the, the whole thing with that is you want your time, right?
If you felt like you were, um, terminated and it wasn't, you know, right or whatever.
And you got a grievance or whatever, you know, you got.
It's a process.
They and they have to, you know, deal with that process.
You think you deserve unemployment or whatever.
There's a process.
There's things you got to do.
If you have insurance, whatever the case may be.
So
You know what I'm saying?
So if you're being pelted, that's all I'm saying is I understand that even though in in law and I get it
You still supposed to just try to keep your composure.
Don't you know, do like the chief did the chief.
Like I can't speak on all that because Wabatosa is in charge
But no, no, he but he did say the things he said when they asked him the questions, he said that yeah, I did.
And even those things, some people would look at his like, oh, no, you wouldn't even say that.
You know what I'm saying?
So I get it, but you're not going to attack.
I'm not going to let somebody attack you or you let somebody attack me without saying, hold on.
Y'all don't even understand the character of Bailey.
Y'all don't understand the character of Humber Blow.
And what y'all not going to do is just keep on saying, yeah, but
he,
he, he,
Well, first thing I'm gonna say it's gotta remember you're black.
not to push it.
Don't put yourself in unnecessary situation.
You still got to remember you're still black.
You got to remember if you have a gun or not, you're still guilty.
And remember you're still black.
Yeah.
Okay.
people to remember this.
But I need to ask you a general question for you and Bailey.
It might be controversial.
I was just I was discussing something with some of my people and they feel that ninjas will be the downfall of the north side.
How do you feel about
What's your truth on that?
are.
are.
From 20th in capital, from both the gas stations, you got derelicts.
If you go to Akas, all the way to Akasing, you got trash.
If you go up Akasing, you got the prostitute nickel horse.
from the south side who claim they're on this side of town now and black people really have no voice and black people a lot of black people who work real hard seeing they're tired of the ninjas but everybody has a heart of sin they have nowhere to go but why do you care where they go so that's why i was asking you do you feel the ninjas will be the downfall
no money is coming to the
out, we'll let
Listen, one week up like next hour, we will be joined by our guest, Vercity.
But you know what I'm saying, we know that it's two sides to every story.
That's why it's important that the video come out.
I'm not going.
Automatically believe either side and I know but we got to still wait for the process.
You know Sam.
That's the only thing I'm
All right.
Well, let's take care of these bills.
We'll be black.
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Press on.
So you all have a summit coming up.
We do.
We have a sickle cell summit coming up at the end of the month next Friday, the 25th at Thrive on King from one to four.
So September sickle cell awareness month.
Yes.
Yes.
Mm hmm.
black
Well, yeah,
it's passed down through trait, but coming from African being African descended Malaria the higher presence of malaria sickle cell having that trait gene protect the people from getting malaria So it was beneficial over there, but in the US where we don't have a higher prevalence of malaria then When you get two parents together two people together who have that gene is passed down to a child and that's how we ended up with it.
So
Rooted back to history.
They do and every pregnancy is a 25% chance if both parents have the sickle cell gene that a child will have sickle cell
No both both parents have to get it because each parent passes on a set of genes and that makes up sickle cell Wow parents pass it down.
you may have heard of it as sickle cell trait.
Right.
Yeah.
So that's the gene that he's talking about.
Okay.
So both parents have that sickle cell trait.
That's past.
Yeah.
And one of the things with that when I know so many people that are living with sickle cell and know a lot of people who passed away from sickle cell and in knowing that and knowing how, how that works, is it
Familiar like some diseases that people may have where you can be like you could have the trait but not necessarily pass it on No, you have to have that trait gene to pass it on But I'm saying are there some people that are born that even though their parents may have it but they don't end up showing signs of having the sickle cell trait
Oh, yeah, that's that's true.
Yeah, that's that's that's where I was going because I know a lot of people like what my baby don't have it, right?
You don't understand they get tested How soon should people get tested?
Is it something that you can find right away?
Or is it something that?
After you continue to grow then you kind of learn that oh something isn't feeling right
yet No, the best practice is to get it tested when a baby is born.
So newborn screening
It's on the registry list now, so every baby born here in Wisconsin will get tested and screened for a sickle cell trait.
Okay.
Christian, for someone who has heard of sickle cell disease but doesn't know much about it, why is this again an important community health conversation?
And we need people to come out because oftentimes people hear certain things about different summits or health fairs and
they don't end up attending
right
Yeah, I think for us at VersaD, you know, September, I said a sickle cell awareness month,
it's a disease that isn't talked about a lot.
You don't see commercials.
You don't see
TV shows around it.
You don't see billboards, all the things that you may see for another disease, which is sickle cell is just as important to highlight.
So adversity, we are a blood center.
So sickle cell is a blood disorder, blood disease.
So we're taking it upon ourselves to have a sickle cell summit.
Where we're going to educate not only just community members,
but
those living with sickle cell clinical Doctors nurses who work with those living with sickle cell the caregivers for people who are taking care of those living with sickle cell because that's a toll too and just talk about the overall disease we're gonna have some of our Researchers that are doing the research around sickle cell disease from versity will have some doctors who actually treat those living with sickle cell disease from children's speaking about
their experience and what they see in the clinics.
And then we'll also have some sickle cell warriors, people living with sickle cell that'll be speaking on the panel to talk about their experience.
I can let James.
Well, just living with sickle cell disease, it affects the family because it's something that the child is always in pain or may have daily pain or go through pain.
And so.
those parents have to take care of that child and take their child to the hospital and people don't understand the amount of effort it takes to take care of a child with sickle cell and the parents usually have to end up not working because the child has either chronic pain all the time or it's just constantly up and down and in and out of pain and so it makes it hard for a parent to work.
Growing up my mother had to quit her job just so she could take care of me because as a
child I was in
the hospital so much.
Wow.
It was a monthly thing and so
you know, it makes it hard to work and affects the whole parent.
It's excruciating.
So I don't know if you've ever jammed your hand in a door or not.
I could just kind of compare it to that.
The intensity of it is much more greater and on a greater scale.
So to me, it feels like my body's being squeezed in a vice grip or just being hit with like a baseball bat.
It's just that painful that
You can't do anything about it, but take pain medications
like
morphine and hope that works.
If
you go to the hospital and they give you
pain medication and IV fluids.
And we, uh, and for those who are listening again, we're joined by versity and James Griffin, the brother that we are speaking with, uh, he's living with sickle cell disease since childhood.
So it's.
Great to have somebody in here that can really talk about what those crisis are, are like, because he lives it.
Right.
Um, how, you know, to know that you're with adversity, like today, what would happen right now if you were to go into a crisis?
What, what, what, what is that real life, real time?
Because I know some people, as you were saying that every moment of the day, sometimes.
It's a challenge, but we see some of these people and they be at work and it's like you having a crisis, but you know, but you still working so Talk about that part because there's a lot of people trust me that I know that are living with sickle cell like you
Yeah, over time you learn how to manage it.
So it's different pain levels.
So if you can have pain every day, but some pain is just Not a variable.
Yeah, it's not as string with us other pain is so
it can come on gradually and then just snowball into an effect where one minute you can be fine and then something can trigger
it like a cold weather or just
humidity or just even like strenuous workouts so
that can come
on and that can lead you to have to have more pain and then you know that's when it gets intense and you have to do something about it and you leave work and you know go get treated.
I would just say just being the only one living with sickle cell in my family Just feeling like I was alone But I've always had to support of my family and so they had to either start what they were doing to check on me help me out Give me to the hospital pick up prescriptions.
I need it
So it's it affects the whole family and that's something that people don't understand about the disease It's
not just like it's one
person me going through it.
It's a whole family because it creates You know a lot of attention that
sickle cell
causes because you know the pain is unbearable You always have to watch out and understand and
That
have.
Some have the trait and then none have have anything.
OK.
And so I want to go back to what I said about the newborn screen.
I want to make sure that I say it correctly.
They actually test for sickle cell disease.
Okay.
The trade
has to be going through the hospital and you have to ask the doctor and request for it.
And it's something called electrophoresis where they can easily just like a finger poke.
Okay.
So that's how people find out.
it was at an early age.
So I was about two years old and I was playing across the hall from my parents.
And all of a sudden, I let out a loud scream.
And when my mother went to check on me, she noticed
my hand.
It was swollen and
puffy.
And in that moment, she had to take me to the hospital because there was no evidence of anything that
I've had
done to make my hands swell up.
And she couldn't calm me down.
And so I was taken to the hospital.
And so that's like the first signs that it's shown.
It's either hand syndrome or put syndrome.
It's a different type of word for it.
But your hands swell up or your feet swell up.
That's the cause for concern and that's usually how it shows in presents in early ages.
Okay.
All right, we got to get ready take care of some bills, but we're gonna definitely get a Barb involved here, right?
Because you have a very very important role and It's all coming together, you know, I'm saying collective.
That's that's what we have to do
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we're gonna get to you and christen uh some more but uh james a lot of the people that i know and you know i'm i'm blessed that i've never been you know diagnosed with the sickle cell trait but they hate to go to the hospital but they because they had to take a lot of morphine and a lot of them say that you know well you it's addictive and so a lot of them smoke weed
I'm talking about like they smoke weed as if it's legal.
You know what
But to them, they says that it helps them with the pain or, you know, when they're dealing with a crisis and it kind of calms them down.
Talk about that.
Do you have to take morphine?
Are you afraid of, you know, and because you've been dealing with this from childhood to now, things may have gotten a little bit better for you to be able to manage when you're having a crisis.
But.
Were you a victim of that to where it's like a morphine again morphine again, but at the same time it took away the pain
Oh for me I Never really got feel like I was gonna become addicted if it's just something that I had to go through with having morphine the second I was out of pain I was able to cut off the
The morphine stop taking it, but I know people like that and they do deal with you mentioned smoking they do deal with it that way because It's just another therapy for them But I would say that it's not wise to smoke because of the oxygen sickle cell effects It's because of a decrease of oxygen and that's why your blood cells sickle and
so
smoking could limit that oxygen that's going to your body and it could cause other things like chest pain So I don't think it's wise to smoke
So I never was one to smoke, but I know it's something that's being studied in and has to be studied about the use of medicinal drugs.
And I think it would be wise for, you know, the oils, people
but not smoking.
So now with where where you are after, you know, being obviously born with it and going through it, how is life for you now?
How are you able to because.
We hear that it's uncontrollable, but are there advancements in treatments or medicine that help you to cope better and could help other sickle cell anemia patients cope better?
Yeah, I'm on a medication now.
Hydroxurea that came out in 99, I believe, but just being put on that helped me to stay away from having crisis and just
able
to live a healthy, normal life because.
You know, it works on the body.
It prevents the body from having those crises.
And so it was just something that I tried, and it worked for me, thankfully.
I know other people, everybody is different.
Some people, it doesn't work.
And so they're still looking for ways to treat their pain.
But it's research out there that's being studied, gene therapy.
But unfortunately, everybody won't be able to get that.
And so we have to figure out other avenues.
And I think people have to just really learn.
It's
a learning
process every day living with sickle cell and what works what doesn't
I found
out eating the right foods eating healthy
and also drinking like
water I consume a lot of water and Eliminate
junk food the sweets for my diet, so it's bigger
if somebody was to just See you out about and you went into a severe crisis What should we as the public like as a person be like what the hell wrong with him?
What's going on with him?
What should people do or what is the reaction that people can do to try to help someone if they are going through a sickle cell crisis?
I think the first thing is to immediately just take them to the emergency room because you never know what's going on.
It's a lot of complications that can happen from sickle cell like it can cause strokes.
It can cause organ damage, tissue death, bone death.
And so it's important to just take that person immediately to the hospital so they can assess them.
What
Is there a certain thing like some people you might just be screaming?
You don't understand so like what what is that?
Crisis kind of look like some people may have seen people going through actual crisis and didn't know what the hell it was,
yeah Because of the pain people may grab at their arms.
They may grab at their back
or just be screaming, like you said, it's so intense and the intensity of it was the problem.
It affects the body and it's just excruciating itself.
If you see somebody bent over or hard to breathe or just grabbing at their arms, legs, or just screaming in pain, I'm having pain, then I think that's when we can address them and just take them away to the hospital or even call 911.
Okay,
Yeah, a lot of few some vegetables and I cut out the fried foods.
So the chicken is baked now just a lot of fish and so I just think like
Anything that's water because the water hydrates your body and keeps sales from sticking together and that's kind of where you get those crisis because it creates blockages when the sales stick together.
And so I just think anything that's heavy in water is good for you.
things.
We've got Andy on the Truth Call in lines, and maybe he has a question that you may be able to help him with, James.
Andy, great morning.
Love you.
Appreciate you.
You hear the conversation.
We are joined by Vercity here in the studio talking about the Sickle Cell Anemia Summit that will be coming up.
And what's your truth?
What's your question?
Okay.
Can you hear me?
Yes.
Okay.
Well, my truth is, first of all, Sickle Cell, it takes me back.
Well, most recently, I just lost a cousin, first cousin to sick of disease in April.
The doctor told the family he wouldn't live to be maybe 25, but he lived to be 56, able to see kids and grandkids.
And so I'm grateful for that.
Also, I worked at a hospital some years ago, and I remember this young lady would come in young lady.
about in her 20s, and she has tic-a-fail disease, and they would barely treat her, and they would say, oh, she's just a drug seeker, and that just really helped me to my heart, you know.
So I think more attention and training needs to be done to these doctors and nurses and everything to be more enlightened about what these people go through, because that was just terrible.
And also, I know a family, the lady had three boys, and all the boys had tickle cells, and they died at a young age in their 20s.
Now, is this something that's predominantly, maybe with males, more so than females?
I'm
No, I just live life.
I just take everything day to time.
I just I just don't even think about it.
I know they place limits on how long you live, but I don't go by that.
I go by my God.
And so I just worry about living life daily.
Mm-hmm.
But but I want to say something about that because that's what we hear.
She mentioned the stigma about going to the hospital.
And this is why some people fight and try to hold off as long as possible because it is stigma since sickle cell effects, African-Americans, people of African descent.
And we're not being treated by our own people.
We do face that heavy level of racism within the medical care.
We have
to advocate for ourselves just to get back and get
seen.
And so
it creates another added barrier to our treatment.
We are considered drug seekers.
We're considered frequent fliers, always coming into the hospital.
We're considered non-compliant and just bad patients.
And so it's definitely a misunderstanding of people with sickle cell.
And I think because of the negative images and stereotypes that they have on black people, as
a
whole, it affects people when it comes to treatment.
And so that's why we get those stigmas.
Yeah, so I have a primary care watches the numbers watches over me prescribes the medication, but when the pain happens after work hours, you know, I have to be treated an emergency room and
And so these people are not familiar with people with
sickle cell.
And so
they run their emergency room the way they want
to run it.
And it's up to them.
The primary doctor has no say
in
how they treat you.
And so you're seeing a lot of different doctors, even the nurses have control
of
what pain medications
to give you the amount.
And so
that's what the trouble comes
in and to effect.
And so it's very hard
on a person with sickle cell.
And it's actually disheartening.
It makes people want to give up because they feel like.
If I'm in here and I'm in this pain, I'm being judged for the condition that I was born with, which I didn't choose.
And I can't do anything
And the people on the front line aren't treating me, the nurses, the doctors.
Then why should I even keep going on?
So it's the mental battle.
It's important to continue to learn about sickle cell.
People think sickle cell has gone away.
We're still dealing with the same issues.
Sickle cell is still affecting us as people, African descent.
And so it's important to get the information, get the knowledge, and you as a person can help advocate for us, because the more voices we have, the more effect change we can make together, and we're stronger together.
And so it's important to come out and just
understand about sickle cell.
So, you know, there are children that should be there if you have a child that has sickle cell, family members and friends that don't understand it and can look out for the signs that James has talked about.
So it's important that everybody comes out.
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Thank you, James.
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Well, I've seen situations where.
just as any of us, utility, financial, school, employment, where a parent has to quit working to take care of their child, but there's no income coming in to supplement that.
Or if the parent has medical concerns for themselves, they have to focus on that child.
If there's multiple children in a home, school clothing.
school issues, community issues.
You know, these are barriers that the caregivers have to carry and deal with on a daily basis.
And so where I come in with that, once we come in contact, because anyone that has social determinant health needs to find resources within the community to support their
You know there's a plan in place I've worked with children for over 30 something years.
Okay, and my last five years was within the sickle cell clinic and there's a 504 plan that
parents have, you know, they can submit to their employer, you know, making them aware that they have a child is dealing with this chronic illness.
Okay.
And so that too can be various because even the schools sometimes don't recognize the needs that the child has because they are living with sickle cell.
I was just speaking with a child parent the other day and she was sharing with me that her son feels like he's picked on and picked out because of the fact that he's living with sickle cell.
Children feel like you know, he's contagious and they can get it from him and rather than understanding that they make fun of
10 years of age you shouldn't have to deal with that.
No,
correct education is the best resource to get anyone to come to an understanding what they're dealing
How does MPS receive y'all being able to come in to talk to the children about sickle cell?
Because again, sometimes not every child really knows what it is that they're going through.
Their parents may know, but they may not really understand.
And the message that you just gave about being picked on and thinking, oh, you can get it just because you.
See them or know the child or whatever right?
Are they do they allow you to go into the schools to kind of like speak on it on different occasions just so the students can Learn and even some of the staff right you don't understand because we can all be naive to it because if it doesn't affect us then it doesn't matter
Well, there are schools that allow you to come in and in my previous role where we will go in and talk with the administrators, the teachers, to bring an understanding to school nurses, to help bring an understanding to what this child is living with and dealing with.
The students, we have right now with Bursity, the street teams,
White that goes into the school and speak with the teachers and the students in regards to situations and circumstances that.
they're dealing with.
Yeah, because I think that's so important because again, like I say, I can just imagine what some of the children are going through.
And then when they're going through a crisis all of a sudden, because they could come on at any time.
And then other children just be like, oh, like, you know, see, I told you, don't touch him and all of that.
The ignorance that we right in these situations.
So right, I'm happy to hear that.
I'm happy to hear that.
This is like a ministry to me.
When I meet with families, I listen.
And that's very important to listen, not only to the caregiver, but to that child.
And once you gain their trust, you're able to work together and come to resolutions.
Again, like I said, it's like a ministry for me to listen and find out where I can fit in to help support them.
Okay.
In their daily
Now, uh, just a reminder for people again, we have Vercity in the studio with us from the Vercity Blood Center of Wisconsin.
This sickle cell summit that we're talking about sickle cell summit 2026 is taking place on September 25th from one PM to four PM at thrive on King in the neighborhood hall.
2153 North Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
Drive and and it is free and and you need to come out to be informed if you have sick of cell it would be great for you to come out because It's a summit and you may be able to get up and tell your truth in
how hard it may have been to get your family to understand what it is.
Uh, uh, your, your husband or your wife or, you know, uh, just your, your mate, whoever it may be to better get an understanding of what it is and, and how, you know, you're going through things.
So September 25th, 1pm to 4pm at thrive on King.
It is the Vercity Blood Center of Wisconsin Sickle Cell Summit 2026.
So we want you to make sure you come out again.
It's free.
So 2153 North Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
Drive and Vercity is also located inside of the Thrive on King.
But it is important people.
We often talk about and I say this all the time of things that we don't have and they need more of this.
They need more of that.
This is a perfect chance for you to come out.
and learn the information, ask the hard questions, because that's what it's about.
That's
You'll have people there that can answer an array of questions or situations that you may have.
You wonder, well, where can I go to get this?
Where can I go?
And Vercity Blood Center of Wisconsin will be able to answer those questions and direct you into the right area.
kill some of those myths.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a big thing.
Christian.
That's the thing.
Yeah, I was gonna say for you.
Yeah.
just add to Homer to that is on the 25th we are asking people to RSVP.
So we
have an Eventbrite Bursity Sickle Cell Summit.
So if you go on Eventbrite, just RSVP, we're gonna have food, giveaways, all the things we just want to make sure we're tracking people.
Um, but also at the summit, our donor center, which is called versity on King will be open during that time too.
So if you want to donate,
donate and then we'll also have our blood typing team there.
So that's where you can learn your blood type in a matter of five minutes.
people walking around don't even know their blood
So you can learn your blood type and you can also learn if you have the RO antigen.
So the RO antigen.
you may be O positive, but 50% of blacks and African Americans have this RO antigen in your blood.
And that is the blood that goes to people living with sickle cell disease because it makes for the smoothest transfusion.
Okay, so at diversity on King location We try to host a lot of blood typing events because that neighborhood I mean right on MLK Drive A lot of black folks living in that neighborhood
we do find that there are a lot of RO donors in that specific neighborhood So we need people to come out learn your blood type potentially learn if you're a RO donor and then hopefully donate Because then we'll have that blood on site for those living with sickle cell disease.
another piece so
Oh,
that that blood.
And so if the hospitals don't have the blood on hand, then what do we do?
Yeah, we have to make sure we have enough blood in these hospitals that are our role for those living with sickle cell.
oh versity on king um we've been open now for two years okay and so before
We had a presence in these neighborhoods.
So in the Brownsville neighborhood, but it was at a school or a church.
We'd
mobile blood drive.
But then it's like, if I missed the blood drive at my church, I forgot about versity.
I forgot about blood donation.
Um, in black and brown communities, we're not really being raised to go donate blood.
You know,
it's like, I
don't trust needles.
What's going on?
So us being in this community and in this neighborhood as a fixed donor center is saying, come.
on a regular basis, come donate with us.
Don't
worry
about if you miss it at your church or your blood drive at your school or your son's school, child's school.
We're here.
Get to
know our phlebotomists.
So we host tours.
We allow students to come in and just get to see the process of donating blood.
We allow organizations to take over our donor center and maybe one person donates and then five more people get in the chair because they saw their friend, family member do it.
So just a lot of education in this building around.
Just building trust.
You know,
we're not necessarily a hospital clinic, but we are a part of health care and we do have needles and we're in a black community.
And so there's a lot of mistrust.
There's a lot of I've seen Barb.
We've been out and people like, no, mess with needles.
No, I don't do that.
And people come in with all kind of tattoos.
some.
The goal and I would mention too, Vercity on King is the only donor center in the country of the nation inside of a community resource hub.
So
there's a lot of eyes on Vercity from a blood perspective.
you know, from Washington just to see how things go with us being in this community resource hub and what we can accomplish here.
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Yep, so you could go to Eventbrite Vercity Sickle Cell Summit.
Okay, just type it in there.
It's also on Vercity Blood Center Wisconsin on our social media.
We have a flyer with the QR code.
So just scan the QR code there.
Yes, we have.
We have researchers, sickle cell researchers at Versity who work very closely with national and they kind of relay that information to our team.
So we don't necessarily directly on the community education side, but the researchers do.
It saves lives I mean anything you can think of a tragedy shooting stabbing complications with labor cancer patients sickle cell people living with sickle cell disease
the list goes on and on.
So
the
And I never like was like, I was mad cause I wanted to do it just cause I wanted to be with my friends, right?
But I never said, well, why not?
But I think she would have probably just said, just, you know, because later on it became.
I was actually the only person that could donate to my mother.
I had to do platelets, the blood, the whole deal because she was sick.
She had cancer.
And so my siblings weren't able to because they were sick and all kinds of stuff going on.
So, you know, what's the difference between me giving then and me just giving at random?
Nothing, right?
No.
You know,
there's no difference.
but you know, I want to say that One pint of your blood can save three lives.
you go.
If you are organic tissue donor, you can save eight lives.
Here's what I'm gonna say, right?
Here's my throat out there.
It's my throat out there.
Y'all ready?
Okay, so can you please because I believe that there are a lot of people that really get this confused.
Oh, I get blood every week.
I go to the plasma center.
Please.
Let's let's talk about it.
It's some people.
Yeah, I don't need blood.
I think twice a week or half alone.
Yeah, do it or whatever.
So please break down.
Uh-huh.
The difference between people who are at a plasma center and an actual blood center.
They show up at our diversity on King location.
Sometimes like, I want to give plasma.
How much you guys pay?
It's a totally different experience.
They're literally, you're going to a plasma center, you're getting money and they can use that plasma for makeup products, testing who knows what.
That's it.
That doesn't go to hospitals, saving lives, none of that.
When you donate blood.
We, Vercity, give blood to all the hospitals in Wisconsin.
So if you're donating in Wisconsin, your blood is saving lives in Wisconsin.
Oftentimes I hear about the shortage of blood donations, and it's also why I see a lot of organizations partnering with Vercity to say, hey, you can do it at my location.
You can do it at my location.
Is there a shortage?
And how important is it?
Because
You know, it's a lot of people that are getting shot in our community.
And in those victims, you know, that blood, if it's not there, what what's next?
So right now we're OK.
So
are times where we have like SOS is where we're like, we need blood now.
The end of the year, we start to push it because people is getting cold.
They don't want to come out as much.
People are with family vacations, things like that.
Summer can be a little difficult sometimes, too.
with the kiddos out.
So we do a lot of blood drives at high schools.
So in schools out, family vacations.
But yeah, the colder months and sometimes the summer obviously with people traveling.
But yeah, people are constantly going through something.
So I know years ago when that guy ran his car through the Brookfield parade, everybody ran to go give blood.
what people don't understand is that's great.
If we could get that energy all the time.
But that blood still has to be tested.
It has to go through a process.
We don't just take your blood and give it to Bailey to dark tomorrow.
You
know, so
I think people are like, how can I help?
How can I help when something bad happens?
But I try to tell people something bad is happening every day, unfortunately.
So we need that energy every day.
I'd like to say that it's important for me when I'm engaging with people in the community to understand that there is a help.
You know, I tell people I don't have a magic wand, but I'm willing to work with you if you work with me.
There's needs for transportation, food, clothing, housing, employment, you know, then we're going to get you connected to those resources.
And so I am that, I am that one that's seeking out, you know, what's available, what's that I can share with the community.
My service is not just to people living with sickle cell, but it's for the community.
I am here to work with you and for you.
Chris.
I would just say education and awareness.
I think again, you know, I've been with diversity almost four years.
I knew what sickle cell kind of was, but now being in this role and just working closer with James.
It needs to be talked about, you know, beyond September.
So we're taking September to take this time.
We have several vendors that are going to be actually tabling at this event.
And when we mentioned it, we had people were coming us from all different organizations.
Can we table?
Can we meet people?
Can we talk about sickle sale?
We want to know more.
So there is the need.
And so I just want to get people educated.
I want people to learn their blood type.
I want us black and brown people to understand we need to donate, you know, we we need to start trusting.
We have phlebotomists that work at diversity on King location, who some of them live in the neighborhood.
So they're of their community, you know, they're they're trustworthy.
So we want people to just just donate and get educated.
So
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Haley, there's a lot of situations, people talking about the shooting.
Prentice Smith and the with the policy, the standard operating procedure, the family is allowed to see the video or they must be allowed to see the video within 48 hours, right after an interaction like that.
And it'll be made public.
Two weeks after, like in 15 days, right to 15 days.
So the public.
We still have another week before we should be able to see that body cam footage from law enforcement.
And we know that the family when the mother saw the video, I don't know who I was with her when she watched the body cam footage.
And she was like, nope, my son didn't have a gun out or he didn't shoot the officers.
So from what her vantage point.
And the family's vantage point is that it was, you know, unjustifiable.
There then attorney B ivory Lamar ended up joining the family and taking on the case.
And they're, you know, trying to make sure that justice is served or it was, you know, fair.
It was a clean, you know, response by Milwaukee law enforcement.
So we now have a situation where the police association, I believe, I Yala, I believe.
So he is saying the Milwaukee Police Union, he has a difference of opinion and a different viewpoint.
And we're going to play that.
Because it says Milwaukee Police Union and family attorney disagree after watching body camera video of the deadly shooting.
Now, be ivory Lamar in this clip.
You'll hear him say that he hasn't seen the video.
So he's going
Bring interpretations of what actually happened during last Tuesday's deadly police shooting now coming to light.
The family of Prince Smith questions if their son even fired the gun that police say was in his hand during the deadly encounter in the Metcalf Park neighborhood while the president of the police union remains fully convinced that his officers actions were justified.
12 News Maddie Augustine is one-on-one with both tonight.
Days after a Milwaukee police officer shot and killed 23-year-old Prentice Smith near 37th and Minakie, the president of the police union and Smith's parents at odds.
The feelings and emotions from what they saw was described as being an execution.
That's what they
described it as being.
The family saw the same video that we did today and that video clearly shows the opposite.
Milwaukee Police Association President Alexander Ayala says his officer is being falsely accused and the body camera video of the deadly incident is clear.
Ayala says officers were in pursuit of the vehicle Smith was in on September 8th.
Then Ayala says Smith ran off and officers followed.
When the officer gives commands, the suspect does not acknowledge those commands instead.
turns around, makes eye contact with the officer.
I mean, that's target accusation right there.
The officer grabs them, and then that's where the fighting suits.
And then you see a few seconds later, what you'll see is going to be the suspect holding a gun with his finger and the trigger pulled all the way back.
Clear as day.
At the scene last week, police chief Jeffrey Norman said the video showed Smith appear to fire.
The ivory Lamar, the Smith family's attorney, has not seen the video himself, only relaying what Smith's parents have told him.
Acknowledging Smith did have a gun in his hand, but questions if deadly force was justified and if Smith ever fired his weapon.
If the officer indicates that he was shot in the leg.
I want to know, did that bullet come from the firearm of Princess or was that bullet self-inflicted?
That suspect shot my officer in the leg and there's a video that obviously shows that.
Lamar says they're calling for the video to be released immediately.
This family wants transparency.
They want the facts and they just want the truth to come out.
You know, if the shooting was justified, it is what it is.
Certainly an interesting back and forth there.
Maddie joins us live from the newsroom.
Maddie, department policy requires MPD to release body camera videos from critical incidents like this one within 15 days.
Do we know if that video will be released before next week?
Blake, we asked police that, but MPD only saying in response that they would release the video according to their standard operating procedure.
So it could still be about a week before we get to see that video.
Yeah
It's just like, you know, and I know that and it's not only when someone may lose their life.
It's a lot of times that people question how law enforcement.
I don't think it was this, even if the person wasn't fatally wounded.
Right.
But in so many other instances, nah, we want to see the video.
They have a standard operating procedure.
So, yeah, it's the right way.
Right.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
And so I just need people to understand when we talking about release it right away.
You still got to remember.
Especially with law enforcement, it's an ongoing investigation.
Sometimes even at your job, it's like, okay, well, we got to investigate to see if this really happened.
Now they got to go talk to different people, some that work with you, some in the upper management or whatever.
They got to do all those things before they can say, okay, we've done our investigation.
Here it is.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, you still fired
We want to
We.
Oh, I need to see it right now, but we still have to follow the process and the policy that is there.
It has been amended.
So I think people should also.
be happy about that.
Yeah, that it's at least amended because it wasn't that before.
Right.
It wasn't that.
So, you know, that's why I'm saying, you know, we get it.
Like I said, we get the fact that if you are the immediate family and your friends of and all of that for you, I need it now.
We in this microwave society
It's like, again, the unfortunate, and I'm not saying this situation will be that, but the situation on Mill Road, when it was a road rage incident.
Yeah.
And the family and other people, all the social media, especially here was like, uh-uh, he didn't have no, he didn't have no.
And then when it was time for them to.
Release it in 48 hours for the mother and the family
Right.
They ended up So this is why I say, you know, we we definitely want to make sure that we understand that I know we're we're we're blood thirsty.
We're hungry We are now now that it that's not how it works.
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The truth, uh, before we went to break, we were talking about, um, the difference of opinion between the Milwaukee police unions, uh, president.
Alexander Yala and the family and the family's attorney be ivory Lamar of Prentice Smith who was the young man that was killed on 37th and right or Mickey or monarchy and It was after a pursuit and there was obviously he was found with a weapon two weapons on him Allegedly one he had in his hand
One he had in his waistband and there was a third gun found in the vehicle.
But now there were two suspects.
One got away, but law enforcement appears to know who they're looking for from what they said in the media and on, you know, TV or whatnot.
So I haven't heard any updates if he if he's been apprehended as of yet.
But so we can't, you know, because of the one in the car, they were both in the car.
So we can't say if that third weapon was something that was in the possession of Princess Smith or not.
That's what I was just talking about.
Yeah, that's to my knowledge.
I haven't heard.
And I would think that when they did catch that person that it would be news.
You know what I'm saying?
It would be breaking news.
The second person has been apprehended or something, but I haven't heard or seen any updates in that area.
So.
I have to take it for now as if they don't have that person in custody.
And with such a high profile situation like this, I think that they would want to let us know right away like, okay, we got the other person.
Mm hmm.
Yeah.
So yeah.
So I don't know.
I just want whatever the situation is.
I want to give it the time to to play out and I'm saying this Bailey when I talk about these things.
I want people to know and I can only speak for myself that
If I was the victim of a situation like this, I would still want the process to play out the way it's supposed to play out.
yeah, you know, you know, I think Bailey, it's like anybody that has really had any kind of situation where there could be a lawsuit or it could be.
A trial you are on trial for something or you've been arrested for something and as much as you want to end up saying the truth of what you know, no and What is the first thing a great lawyer is going to tell you?
Don't talk about the case.
don't talk about don't go do no interviews Don't go because again, some people don't realize and they don't respect the fact of when they say
Anything you say, can and miss the big word will be used against you in the court of law.
So you out there, cause you want to get your side out and you want to tell what you want to tell.
And now all of that can be used against you.
And now people telling you, uh, you should take that post down, but you up there on the post talking about, yeah, and I take out any of them.
And you know, no, no, no, no, no, no, you making threats against law enforcement or other people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You probably, you probably didn't want to put that post up.
because that post can come back and give probable cause and motive.
So, yeah, we yeah, we have to we have to really be mindful, you know what I'm saying because you can put yourself Where you're gonna get a visit.
Yeah, you're gonna get a visit be like, okay Oh, so you have information right?
We need to highlight you, right?
Oh, no, no, I had no my cousin My cousin is the one that he he the one she told me
mean
I just don't feel like I feel like he irritates the situation when he come up starting to talk about all that I'm like, you know what, you know, you got a little inside track or whatever, but you need to chill Let the let you may be representing the officers, but you're not representing the department And it would be Better and less irritating for the community
and less agitating for the family, because that family seemed like they're ready to go at it now, right?
Well, again, I think it's just the human nature of it all, Bailey.
That's why I think that that comes out the same way that other people should probably not be saying anything, but when you are being battered, when you are being pummeled,
by the public opinion, you get, you get, you get what I'm saying?
So when you're being battered, sometimes you want to do
Yeah.
But I'm just saying that he's not, you know, he's the union.
You get what I'm saying?
That's opposed to, so I can understand if I'm being battered, even though the lawyer has said, don't say nothing, right?
Man, they, they, they, they, they chair me apart out here.
I get it.
But you can't say nothing.
Don't say nothing.
Man, man, I'm telling you now, if I see some more, well, a couple more things, man, I don't know, man, I'm happy to get my opinion be heard.
So I think that, you know, sometimes that thing can happen.
And especially for him, you know, the whole law enforcement is his family.
You get what I'm saying?
So it's like, OK, y'all family saying this, OK, my family, I'm going to represent for my family and say this.
But in the end.
We'll all get to see and the good thing about when we get to see it as the public, uh, like I say, we got another week or so, uh, or less than that we'll be able to see it.
And I like the fact that they slow it down.
They draw circles around what you're seeing.
They describe what you were seeing.
So you'll be able to say, oh, okay.
Cause that's what they did in that other case on Mill Road.
You know, they were able to say, like, if you watch this and then you'll hear, sometimes they actually narrate the footage too.
So you can pay attention and be like, oh, see, I didn't see that before.
You know what I mean?
So, so we just got to let the process go.
And I know condolences.
To all the family and friends of Princess Smith because nobody wants to have to go through something like this You know it's a tragedy all around the board and I think Not just you know to try to justify one way or another But you got to think of what those law enforcement officers to also have to deal with I don't think that
You know, we know that there are some quote unquote rogue law enforcement, right?
But I don't think that a lot of these officers go out here.
I can't.
I'm gonna just kill somebody today.
I'm gonna.
I'm gonna use, you know, deadly force because of the situation.
So they got it.
They going through some things, too, in my opinion.
You know, but it's like the hell of what y'all going through.
What about you doing?
I'm saying so we have to, you know, I try to have a open view.
on the things and I'm like okay yes even though this person hit in my hit uh my daughter's car and caused her injuries or whatnot if it was truly a situation after an investigation found out that she was negligent right you know so as much as I want to hate you would be mad at you right
Yeah, you probably going through some things too, because if somebody was to lose a life or just lose a limb or something like that, right, you know, it can mess with your mental too.
And they got to deal with a lot.
That's why I salute the law enforcement, the firefighters, the EMTs, because they got to be right there.
They got to sit there and work with these bodies that they know.
They're not getting any sign of life, but here they are for 40 minutes, 45 minutes still doing CPR.
Right.
Even though you may have seen pupils dilate it.
You go, you know what I'm saying?
Eyes fixed.
You go, but, but you're, you still trying.
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What's the address to Thrive on King?
Homer, you got the address.
Okay.
Uh, but yeah.
So the, the whole thing with that is you want your time, right?
If you felt like you were, um, terminated and it wasn't, you know, right or whatever.
And you got a grievance or whatever, you know, you got.
It's a process.
They and they have to, you know, deal with that process.
You think you deserve unemployment or whatever.
There's a process.
There's things you got to do.
Um, if you have, uh, insurance, whatever the case may be.
So
You know what I'm saying?
So if you're being pelted, that's all I'm saying is I understand that even though in in law and I get it
You still supposed to just try to keep your composure.
Don't, you know, do like the chief did the chief.
Like I can't speak on all that because Wauwatosa is in charge.
things, but no, no, he, but he did say the things he said when they asked him the questions, he said that, yeah, I did.
And even those things, some people would look at it as like, oh, no, you wouldn't even say that.
You know what I'm saying?
So I get it, but you're not going to attack.
I'm not gonna let somebody attack you or you let somebody attack me without saying, hold on.
Y'all don't even understand the character of Bailey.
Y'all don't understand the character of Humber Blow.
And what y'all not gonna do is just keep on saying, yeah, but he, he, he, he, he.
And it's like, you know what?
Hold on, what we not gonna do.
You understand?
That was there again.
Well, first thing I'm going to say, it's got to remember you're black.
not to push it.
Don't put yourself in unnecessary situation.
You still got to remember you're still black.
You got to remember if you have a gun or not, you're still guilty.
And remember you're still black.
Yeah.
Okay.
people to remember this.
But I need to ask you a general question for you and Bailey.
It might be controversial.
I was just I was discussing something with some of my people and they feel that ninjas will be the downfall of the north side.
How do you feel about
are.
are.
From 20th in capital, from both the gas stations, you got derelicts.
If you go to Akas, all the way to Akasing, you got trash.
If you go up Akasing, you got the prostitute nickel horse.
from the south side who claim they're on this side of town now and black people really have no voice and black people a lot of black people who work real hard seeing they're tired of the ninjas but everybody has a heart of sin they have nowhere to go but why do you care where they go so that's why i was asking you do you feel the ninjas will be the downfall
no money is coming to the north side
you, we'll let you
Okay,
Press on.
Okay.
guys.
So you all have a summit coming up.
We do.
We have a sickle cell summit coming up at the end of the month next Friday, the 25th at Thrive on King from one to four.
So September sickle cell awareness month.
In the word out.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Mm hmm.
Brown
black
Well, yeah,
it's passed down through trait, but coming from African being African descended Malaria the higher presence of malaria sickle cell having that trait gene protect the people from getting malaria So it was beneficial over there, but in the US where we don't have a higher prevalence of malaria then When you get two parents together two people together who have that gene is passed down to a child and that's how we ended up with it.
So
Rooted back to history.
They do and every pregnancy is a 25% chance if both parents have the sickle cell gene that a child will have sickle cell
No both both parents have to get it because each parent passes on a set of genes and that makes up sickle cell Wow parents pass it down.
So you may have heard of it as sickle cell trait.
Right.
Yeah.
So that's the gene that he's talking about.
Okay.
So both parents have that sickle cell trait.
That's past.
Yeah.
And one of the things with that when I know so many people that are living with sickle cell and know a lot of people who passed away from sickle cell and in knowing that and knowing how, how that works, is it
Familiar like some diseases that people may have where you can be like you could have the trait but not necessarily pass it on No, you have to have
that
yeah, that's that's true.
Yeah, that's that's that's where I was going
yet No, the best practice is to get it tested when a baby is born.
So newborn screening
It's on the registry list now, so every baby born here in Wisconsin will get tested and screened for a sickle cell trait.
Okay.
people hear
right
that
So
Yeah, I think for us at VersaD, you know, September, I said a sickle cell awareness month, but it's a disease that isn't talked about a lot.
You don't see commercials.
You don't see
TV shows around it.
You don't see billboards, all the things that you may see for another disease, which is sickle cell is just as important to highlight.
So adversity, we are a blood center.
So sickle cell is a blood disorder, blood disease.
So we're taking it upon ourselves to have a sickle cell summit.
Where we're going to educate not only just community members,
but
those living with sickle cell clinical Doctors nurses who work with those living with sickle cell the caregivers for people who are taking care of those living with sickle cell because that's a toll too and just talk about the overall disease we're gonna have some of our Researchers that are doing the research around sickle cell disease from versity will have some doctors who actually treat those living with sickle cell disease from children's speaking about
their experience and what they see in the clinics.
And then we'll also have some sickle cell warriors, people living with sickle cell that'll be speaking on the panel to talk about their experience.
I can let James.
Well, just living with sickle cell disease, it affects the family because it's something that the child is always in pain or may have daily pain or go through pain.
And so.
those parents have to take care of that child and take their child to the hospital and people don't understand the amount of effort it takes to take care of a child with sickle cell and the parents usually have to end up not working because the child has either chronic pain all the time or it's just constantly up and down and in and out of pain and so it makes it hard for a parent to work.
Growing up my mother had to quit her job just so she could take care of me because as a
child I was in
the hospital so much.
Wow.
It was a monthly thing and so
You know, it makes it hard to work and affects the whole parent.
What
It's excruciating.
So I don't know if you've ever jammed your hand in a door or not.
I could just kind of compare it to that.
The intensity of it is much more greater and on a greater scale.
So to me, it feels like my body's being squeezed in a vice grip or just being hit with like a baseball bat.
It's just that painful that
You can't do anything about it, but take pain medications
like
morphine and hope that works.
If not, then you go to the hospital and they give you more pain medication and IV fluids.
And we, uh, and for those who are listening again, we're joined by versity and James Griffin, the brother that we are speaking with, uh, he's living with sickle cell disease since childhood.
So it's.
Great to have somebody in here that can really talk about what those crisis are, are like, because he lives it.
Right.
Um, how, you know, to know that you're with adversity, like today, what would happen right now if you were to go into a crisis?
What, what, what, what is that real life, real time?
Because I know some people, as you were saying that every moment of the day, sometimes.
It's a challenge, but we see some of these people and they be at work and it's like you having a crisis, but you know, but you still working so Talk about that part because there's a lot of people trust me that I know
that are
Yeah, over time you learn how to manage it.
So it's different pain levels.
So if you can have pain every day, but some pain is just Not a variable.
Yeah, it's not as string with us other pain is so
it can come on gradually and then just snowball into an effect where one minute you can be fine and then something can trigger
it like a cold weather or just
humidity or just even like strenuous workouts so
that can come
on and that can lead you to have to have more pain and then you know that's when it gets intense and you have to do something about it and you leave work and you know go get treated.
I would just say just being the only one living with sickle cell in my family Just feeling like I was alone But I've always had to support of my family and so they had to either start what they were doing to check on me help me out Give me to the hospital pick up prescriptions.
I need it
So it's it affects the whole family and that's something that people don't understand about the disease It's
not just like it's one
person me going through it.
It's a whole family because it creates You know a lot of attention that
sickle cell
causes because you know the pain is unbearable You always have to watch out and understand and make sure that I'm good That
child in my family to have.
Yeah.
So that's kind of like where I was going.
Like does
Some have the trait and then none have have anything.
OK.
And so I want to go back to what I said about the newborn screen.
I want to make sure that I say it correctly.
They actually test for sickle cell disease.
Okay.
The trade
has to be going through the hospital and you have to ask the doctor and request for it.
And it's something called electrophoresis where they can easily just like a finger poke.
Okay.
So that's how people find out.
it was at an early age.
So I was about two years old and I was playing across the hall from my parents.
And all of a sudden, I let out a loud scream.
And when my mother went to check on me, she noticed
my hand.
It was swollen and
puffy.
And in that moment, she had to take me to the hospital because there was no evidence of anything that
I've had
done to make my hands swell up.
And she couldn't calm me down.
And so I was taken to the hospital.
And so that's like the first signs that it's shown.
It's either hand syndrome or put syndrome.
It's a different type of word for it.
But your hands swell up or your feet swell up.
That's the cause for concern and that's usually how it shows in presents as early ages.
Okay.
All right, we got to get ready take care of some bills, but we're gonna definitely get a Barb involved here, right?
Because you have a very very important role and It's all coming together, you know, I'm saying collective.
That's that's what we have to do
And we're going to get some great information from Barb when we return.
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So
But, uh, James, uh, a lot of the people that I know and you know, I'm, I'm blessed that I've never been, you know, diagnosed with the sickle cell trait.
But they hate to go to the hospital But they because they had to take a lot of morphine and a lot of them say that you know Well you it's addictive and so a lot of them smoke weed I'm talking about like they smoke weed as if it's legal
You know what
But to them they says that it helps them with the pain or you know when they're dealing with a crisis and it kind of calms them down Talk about that.
Do you have to take morphine?
Are you afraid of you know and and because you've been dealing with this from childhood to now Things may have gotten a little bit better for you to be able to manage when you're having a crisis But were you a victim of that to where it's like oh morphine again morphine again, but at the same time it took away the pain
for me I never
Really got feel like I was gonna become addicted if it's just something that I had to go through would have morphine the second I was out of pain I was able to cut off the The morphine stop taking it, but I know people like that and they do deal with you mentioned smoking they do deal with it that way because It's just another therapy for them, but I would say that it's not wise to smoke because of the oxygen sickle cell effects
It's because of a decrease of oxygen and that's why your blood cells sickle and so smoking could limit that oxygen that's going to your body and it could cause other things like chest pain.
So I don't think it's wise to smoke.
So I never was wanting to smoke, but I know it's something that's being studied in and has to be studied about the use of medicinal drugs.
And I think it would be wise for, you know, the oils, people could use those, but not smoking.
where you are after, you know, being obviously born with it and going through it.
How is life for you now?
How, uh, are you able to, uh, because we hear that it's like uncontrollable, but, you know, are there advancements in treatments or, or medicine that help you to cope better and could help other sickle cell anemia patients cope better?
Yeah, I'm on a medication now.
Um, Hydroxurea that came out in.
99 I believe but just being put on that helped me to stay away from having crisis and just able to live a healthy normal life because you know it works on the body it prevents the body from having those crisis and so it was just something that I tried and it worked for me thankfully I know other people everybody is different some people it doesn't work and so they're still looking for ways to treat their pain but it's um it's research out there that's being studied
Gene therapy, but fortunately everybody won't be able to get that and so we have to figure out other avenues and just I think people have to just really learn and continue it's a learning process every day living with sickle cell and what works what doesn't I found out eating the right foods eating healthy and also drinking like a lot of water I consume a lot of water and Eliminate all the junk food the sweets for my diet, and so it's bigger
Went into a severe crisis What should we as the public like as a person be like what the hell wrong with him?
What's going on with him?
What should people do or what is the reaction?
That people can do to try to help someone if they are going through a sickle cell crisis
I think the first thing is to immediately just take them to the emergency room because you never know What's going on?
It's a lot of complications that can happen from sickle cell like it can cause strokes
It can cause organ damage, tissue death, bone death.
And so it's important to just take that person immediately to the hospital so they can assess them and see what's going on.
what I'm saying?
So
I'm saying?
Because of the pain, people may grab at their arms, they may grab at their back or just be screaming like you said.
It's so intense and the intensity of it was the problem.
It affects the body and it's just excruciating itself.
You see somebody bent over or...
Hard to breathe or just grabbing at their arms, legs, or just screaming in pain.
I'm having pain.
And I think that's when we could address them and just take them right to the hospital or even call 911.
OK,
Yeah, a lot of few some vegetables and I cut out the fried foods.
So the chicken is baked now.
Just eat a lot of fish.
And so I just think like anything that's water because the water hydrates your body and keeps your cells from sticking together.
And that's kind of where you get those crisis because it creates blockages when the cells stick together.
And so I just think anything that's heavy in water.
It's good.
things.
Andy on the truth call in lines, uh, and maybe he has a question that you may be able to help him with, uh, James, uh, Andy, great morning.
Love you.
Appreciate you.
You hear the conversation.
We are joined by versity here in the studio, uh, talking about the sickle cell anemia, uh, summit that will be coming up and what's your truth?
What's your question?
Okay.
Um,
Can you hear me?
Yes.
Okay.
Well, my truth is, first of all, sickle cell, it takes me back.
Well, most recently, I just lost a cousin, first cousin to sickle cell disease in April.
The doctor told the family he wouldn't live to be maybe 25, but he lived to be 56, able to see kids and grandkids.
And so I'm grateful for that.
Also, I worked at a hospital some years ago, and I remember this young lady would come in, young lady, about in her 20s, and she had tic-a-fail disease, and they would barely treat her, and they would say, oh, she's just a drug seeker, and that just really helped me to my heart, you know.
So I think more attention and training needs to be done to these.
doctors and nurses and everything to be more enlightened about what these people go through because that was just terrible.
And also, I know a family, the lady had three boys and all the boys had tic-a-fail and they died at a young age in their 20s.
Now, is this something that's predominantly maybe with males more so than females?
you for
I'm not
No, I just live life.
I just take everything day to time I Just I just don't even think about it.
I know they place limits on how long you live, but I don't go by that I go by my God and so I just worry about living life daily
But I wanted to say something about that because that's why we're here.
She mentioned the stigma about going to the hospital.
And this is why some people fight and try to hold off as long as possible because it is stigma since sickle cell effects, African-Americans, people of African descent.
And we're not being treated by our own people.
We do face that heavy level of racism within the medical care.
We have to advocate for ourselves just to get back and get seen.
It creates another letter, added barrier to our treatment.
And so we are considered drug seekers.
We're considered frequent fliers, always coming into the hospital.
We're considered non-compliant and just bad patients.
And so it's definitely a misunderstanding of people with sickle cell.
And I think because of the negative images and stereotypes that they have on black people, as a whole, it affects people when it comes to treatment.
That's why we get those stigmas.
Yeah, so I have a primary care watches the numbers watches over me prescribes the medication but when the pain happens after work hours, you know, I have to be treated in an emergency room and
And so these people are not familiar with people with sickle cell.
And so they run their emergency room the way they want to run it.
And it's up to them.
The primary doctor has no say in how they treat you.
And so you're seeing a lot of different doctors, even the nurses have control of what pain medications to give you the amount.
And so that's where the trouble comes in and to effect.
And so it's very hard on a person with sickle cell.
And it's actually disheartening.
It makes people want to give up because they feel like.
If I'm in here and I'm in this pain, I'm being judged for the condition that I was born with, which I didn't choose.
And I can't do anything about it.
And the people on the front line are treating me, the nurses, the doctors.
And why should I even keep going on?
So it's the mental battle.
It's important to continue to learn about sickle cell.
People think sickle cell has gone away.
We're still dealing with the same issues.
Sickle cell is still affecting us as people, African descent, and so it's important to get the information, get the knowledge, and you as a person can help advocate for us, because the more voices we have, the more effect change we can make together, and we're stronger together, and so it's important to come out and just learn and understand about sickle cell.
have a
you, James for
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I've seen situations where just as any of us utility, financial, school, employment, where a parent has to quit working to take care of their child, but there's no income coming in to supplement that.
Or if the parent has medical concerns.
for themselves, you know, they have to focus on that child.
If there's multiple children in a home, school clothing, school issues, community issues, you know, these are barriers that the caregivers have to carry and deal with on a daily basis.
And so where I come in with that, once we come in contact, because anyone that has a social determinant health needs to find resources within the community to support their
You know there's a plan in place I worked with children for over 30 something years.
Okay, and my last five years was within the sickle cell clinic
And there's a 504 plan that parents have, you know, they can submit to their employer, you know, making them aware that they have a child that's dealing with this chronic illness.
And so that too can be various because even the schools sometimes don't recognize the needs that the child has because they are living with sickle cell.
I was just speaking with a child parent the other day and she was sharing with me that her son feels like he's picked on and picked out because of the fact that
he's living with sickle cell.
Children feel like, you know, he's contagious and they can get it from him.
And rather than understanding that, they make fun of him.
You know, so at 10 years of age, you shouldn't have to deal with that.
No,
Correct.
Education is the best resource to get anyone to come to an understanding of what they're dealing with.
Because again, sometimes not every child really knows what it is that they're going through.
Their parents may know, but they may not really understand.
And the message that you just gave about being picked on and thinking, oh, you can get it just because you.
see them or know the child or whatever.
Do they allow you to go into the schools to kind of like speak on it on different occasions just so the students can learn and even some of the staff.
Well, there are schools that allow you to come in and in my previous role where we will go in and talk with the administrators, the teachers, to bring an understanding to school nurses, to help bring an understanding to what this child is living with and dealing with.
What
The students, we have right now with Bursity, the street teams, Cameron White that goes into the school and speak with the teachers and the students in regards to situations and circumstances that...
They're dealing with
because
This is like a ministry to me.
When I meet with families, I listen.
And that's very important to listen, not only to the caregiver, but to that child.
And once you gain their trust, you're able to work together and come to resolutions.
Again, like I said, it's like a ministry for me to listen and find out where I can fit in to help support them.
Okay.
In their daily
Now, uh, just a reminder for people again, we have versity in the studio with us from the versity blood center of Wisconsin.
This sickle cell summit that we're talking about sickle cell summit 2026 is taking place on September 25th from 1pm to 4pm at thrive on King in the neighborhood hall.
21 53 North Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
Drive and and it is free and and you need to come out to be informed if you have sick of cell it would be great for you to come out because it's a summit and you may be able to get up and tell your truth and
how hard it may have been to get your family to understand what it is, uh, uh, your, your husband or your wife or, you know, uh, just your, your mate, whoever it may be to better get an understanding of what it is and, and how, you know, you're going through things.
So September 25th, 1pm to 4pm at thrive on King.
It is the Vercity Blood Center of Wisconsin Sickle Cell Summit 2026.
So we want you to make sure you come out again.
It's free.
So 2153 North Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
Drive and Vercity is also located inside of the thrive on King.
But it is important people we often talk about and I say this all the time of things that we don't have and they need more of this.
They need more of that.
This is a perfect chance for you to come out.
and learn the information, ask the hard questions, because that's what it's about.
That's
You'll have people there that can answer an array of questions or situations that you may have.
You wonder, well, where can I go to get this?
Where can I go?
And Vercity Blood Center of Wisconsin will be able to answer those questions and direct you into the right area.
kill some of those myths.
That's a big thing, Christian.
Yeah, I was
I would just add to Homer to that is on the 25th, we are asking people to RSVP.
So we
have an Eventbrite, Versity Sickle Cell Summit.
So if you go on Eventbrite, just RSVP, we're going to have food, giveaways, all the things we just want to make sure we're tracking people.
Um, but also at the summit, our donor center, which is called versity on King will be open during that time too.
So if you want to donate, you can donate and then we'll also have our blood typing team there.
Okay.
So that's where you can learn your blood type in a matter of five minutes.
A lot of people walking around don't even know their blood type.
Yeah.
So you can learn your blood type and you can also learn if you have the RO antigen.
So the RO antigen.
with education.
So you may be O positive, but 50% of blacks and African Americans have this RO antigen in your blood.
And that is the blood that goes to people living with sickle cell disease, because it makes for the smoothest transfusion.
Okay.
So at diversity on King location, um, we try to host a lot of blood typing events because that neighborhood, I mean, we're right on MLK drive.
Um, a lot of, uh, black folks living in that neighborhood, we do find that there are a lot of RO donors in that specific neighborhood.
So we need people to come out, learn your blood type, potentially learn if you're a RO donor and then hopefully donate because then we'll have that blood on site.
Um, for those living with sickle cell disease.
So that's another piece.
So.
Oh,
Yeah, they
in and get a blood transfusion.
That's what it is.
Yeah.
So those crises, they need that that blood.
And so if the hospitals don't have the blood on hand, then what do we do?
Yeah, we have to make sure we have enough blood in these hospitals that are our role for those living with sickle cell.
only
oh versity on king um we've been open now for two years okay and so before
We had a presence in these neighborhoods.
So in the Brownsville neighborhood, but it was at a school or a church.
We'd have a mobile blood drive.
But then it's like, if I missed the blood drive at my church, I forgot about versity.
I forgot about blood donation.
Right.
Um, in black and brown communities, we're not really being raised to go donate blood.
You know,
it's like, I
don't trust needles.
What's going on?
So us being in this community and in this neighborhood as a fixed donor center is saying.
come on a regular basis, come donate with us.
Don't
worry
about if you miss it at your church or your blood drive at your school or your son's school, child's school, we're here.
Get to
know our phlebotomists.
So we host tours, we allow students to come in and just get to see the process of donating blood.
We allow organizations to take over our donor center and maybe one person donates and then five more people get in the chair because they saw their friend, family member do it.
So just a lot of education in this building around
Just building trust.
You know,
we're not necessarily a hospital clinic, but we are a part of health care and we do have needles and we're in a black community.
And so there's a lot of mistrust.
There's a lot of I've seen Barb.
We've been out and people like, no, mess with needles.
No, I don't do that.
And people come in with all kind of tattoos.
Right.
So the goal and I would mention to versity on King is the only donor center in the country of the nation inside of a community resource hub.
Okay.
So
there's a lot of eyes on versity from a blood perspective.
you know, from Washington just to see how things go with us being in this community resource hub and what we can accomplish here.
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Yep.
So you could go to Eventbrite, Versity Sickle Cell Summit.
Okay.
Just type it in there.
It's also on Versity Blood Center, Wisconsin on our social media.
We have a flyer with the QR code.
So just scan the QR code there.
Somewhat
Yes, we have.
We have researchers, sickle cell researchers at Versity who work very closely with national and they kind of relay that information to our team.
So we don't necessarily directly on the community education side, but the researchers do.
It saves lives I mean anything you can think of a tragedy shooting stabbing complications with labor cancer patients sickle cell people living with sickle cell disease
the list goes on and on so
the
it's
Nope.
And I never like was like, I was mad cause I wanted to do it just cause I wanted to be with my friends, right?
But I never said, well, why not?
But I think she would have probably just said, just, you know, because later on it became.
I was actually the only person that could donate to my mother.
I had to do platelets, the blood, the whole deal because she was sick.
She had cancer.
And so my siblings weren't able to because they were sick and all kinds of stuff going on.
So, you know, what's the difference between me giving then and me just giving at random?
Nothing, right?
No.
You know,
there's no difference.
but you know, I want to say that One pint of your blood can save three lives.
There you go.
If you are organic tissue donor, you can save eight lives.
It's my throat out
Y'all
They show up at our diversity on King location.
Sometimes like, I want to give plasma.
How much you guys pay?
It's a totally different experience.
They're literally, you're going to a plasma center, you're getting money and they can use that plasma for makeup products, testing who knows what.
That's it.
That doesn't go to hospitals, saving lives, none of that.
When you donate blood.
We, Vercity, give blood to all the hospitals in Wisconsin.
So if you're donating in Wisconsin, your blood is saving lives in Wisconsin.
Is there
say,
do it at my
our community
So right now we're okay so there are times where we had like SOS is where we're like we need blood now the end of the year we start to push it because people is getting cold they don't want to come out as much people are with family vacations things like that summer can be a little difficult sometimes too
with the kiddos out.
So we do a lot of blood drives at high schools.
So in schools out, family vacations.
But yeah, the colder months and sometimes the summer obviously with people traveling.
But yeah, people are constantly going through something.
So I know years ago when that guy ran his car through the Brookfield parade, everybody ran to go give blood.
Right.
But what people don't understand is that's great.
If we could get that energy all the time.
But that blood still has to be tested.
It has to go through a process.
We don't just take your blood and give it to Bailey to dark tomorrow.
You
know, so
I think people are like, how can I help?
How can I help when something bad happens?
But I try to tell people something bad is happening every day, unfortunately.
So we need that energy every day.
like to say that it's important for me when I'm engaging with people in the community to understand that there is a help.
You know, I tell people I don't have a magic wand, but I'm willing to work with you if you work with me.
There's needs for transportation, food, clothing, housing, employment, you know, then we're going to get you connected to those resources.
And so I am that, I am that one that's seeking out, you know, what's available, what's that I can share with the community.
My service is not just to people living with sickle cell, but it's for the community.
I am here to work with you and for
Chris.
I would just say education and awareness.
I think again, you know, I've been with diversity almost four years.
I knew what sickle cell kind of was, but now being in this role and just working closer with James.
it needs to be talked about, you know, beyond September.
So we're taking September to take this time.
We have several vendors that are going to be actually tabling at this event.
And when we mentioned it, we had people were coming us from all different organizations.
Can we table?
Can we meet people?
Can we talk about sickle sale?
We want to