
Damn.
that it
yes
right
right?
right?
million.
Mm-hmm
we
But what can we really say that we are doing in our own communities?
To stop the violence stop this madness stop the shooting.
What are we doing?
Mm-hmm because it takes a collaborative effort in order to get this to work You know, we have to have the support
for our, uh, CBIs, community violence, interrupters, uh, that, that's like when you hear things, uh, you know, Milwaukee peacekeepers, um, credible messengers for one for life, you know, the organizations like that.
And.
Like they can, can you imagine if that funding.
Was put into those organizations, right?
And we didn't have to have as many non-fatal shootings.
We didn't have to have the homicides that are happening because we got enough people that are able to be employed to really deploy numbers of them in different areas because we have a lot of different areas that this happens with.
That's the situation I was telling you about, Bailey.
I'm going to turn this so you can see it.
It just popped up.
Hmm.
It just popped up.
Hmm.
Interesting, isn't
it?
So, but yeah, so I just like I'd rather know that if these organizations are working, then I'd rather know that it's not going to even take the amount of money that we're paying for every homicide.
The amount of money that we're paying for every non fatal shooting where you're talking about in a One week period one week period We're paying Probably 11
million dollars Wow It's that crazy.
That's crazy Wow one week one week
And I'm gonna I'll pull it up during the break, but it's like
If anybody else I got shot and killed besides on the Monday report and the report from Wednesday That's crazy like yeah, that's that's you know, and we have to do better like I say
We can't like this woman.
Cosetta Burrell that allegedly, you know, shot the 12 year old and she told my she a community hero.
This is my turf and you are not going to.
This is the city's median.
Well, first of all, you're supposed to be grown.
How old is she?
Oh, listen.
Let these babies out here.
Let them out here.
Let them sell their little water and do their thing.
This is a kid job.
What are you doing?
What are you doing?
And how are you going to shoot a 12 year old kid?
Right.
She is 33 years old, old enough to know better.
That part.
33 years old.
Bailey,
Yes.
Yes.
And
Yeah.
chase.
He
Welcome home, PWK.
Welcome home.
OK.
PWK is going away again.
We're selling them water bottles.
All right, we finna get the good spot.
And no, they ain't finna, uh-uh, we getting the good spot.
She took over her kid's money and put them out there, dad, she out there watching them sell, making sure they bring so much back.
That's family income that's household income,
We got to stay here now, but Sometimes during the show this morning.
We're gonna talk about David Crowley linked to social media account that made crude comments We're gonna we're gonna deal with it.
We're gonna talk about the Madison
Police shooting.
a
Bailey.
We'll be black.
Don't touch that dial.
Truth in the Morning will be right back on 1017 The Truth, the Truth app, and streaming live on 1017 The Truth on YouTube.
You are listening to Truth in the Morning on 1017 The Truth, the Truth app, and streaming live on 1017 The Truth on YouTube.
Truth in the morning on the award winning one on one seven FM.
The truth.
I am the legendary home of blowing.
That's about what it sounds like our producer Xavier.
Unfortunately, that's about what it sounds like here in the city and about the money that is costing us.
It is also crazy
You're going to prison.
That's it.
But she just got out of prison they say here seven days earlier
Institutionalized
Yep So yeah, like I say nine and a half other criminal pages of the criminal complaint is just her 22 charges But this is This is crazy.
Let me let me just kind of go to what she was saying
Where she was talking about she a hero the community loves her and she did what she needed to do and then but to be in jail and on your Call that you know is recorded they tell you if you receive the call that it's being recorded.
Yes.
Yes, so
You know yes that this call is being recorded.
Okay, and you still chose to Say some incriminating things on the phone But let me get to where she was talking about she's a hero And that the community
She was released from prison
11 days earlier.
Before
is
and Burrell stated that Cassie exited the Nissan and threatened to assault JJV prior to Castella Burrell grabbing the gun.
Now, let's see, who are identified.
I want to get to where she was saying that community feels like she was a hero.
She really feels like, you know,
People are supporting her
They
Okay.
So that's how that goes.
Now, let's let's get to her talking on the jail phone.
Okay.
On July 19th, 2026 at 934 AM.
She ended up saying on this phone call, not even an hour after I got my groceries, those MFs got behind me and I took them on one.
I took them on one for like 15 minutes.
I went through the hood and everything.
I told the kids, put your seat belts on.
I ain't stopping.
I tried to get rid of that little demo.
Uh, they found it.
She was talking about the gun.
They found it.
They saw me throw it.
I effed up.
I should have just punched in his sugar honey iced tea.
I should have just punched him in his sugar honey iced tea.
I lost my temper in reference to the parents of the children in her car being upset about taking their children on a high speed chase.
The two little boys they got in, I was trying to help them get their MF money.
I was trying to help them get that money.
So she.
She said, uh, the mama's, the mama's know me.
Okay.
I'm wrong for taking them on a high speed, but I had to get rid of this sugar, honey, ice tea.
I'm not going to pull over.
I had to get rid of sugar, honey, ice tea.
I understand they're mad, but in reference to the child she shot.
Uh, this ain't your corner.
Yeah.
I don't know who the F raised you, but they raised you wrong.
Don't don't raise you right.
They didn't raise you right.
I'm going to show you right.
Wow.
Then on July 19th at 10, 23 AM, another phone call.
Pharrell, again, again, admits to driving around with the kids in her car, looking for the child that she eventually shot.
Harrell
She said this on the call.
Yeah, I'm just saying.
Then on July 19th, 2026 at 1046 a.m.
and talking about the child victim, she said, you know, I feel bad and I always feel bad, but I also feel like this is an eye opener.
And these kids need to stop doing that sugar, honey, ice tea.
They're lying on the internet.
The boy is 14, not 12.
He's so big and so obese, like titty sagging and sugar, honey, ice tea.
Wow.
We had to take care of some bills.
True nation.
We need to hear from
black.
Don't touch that dial.
Truth in the morning will be right back on 1017 the truth, the truth app and streaming live on 1017 the truth on YouTube.
You are listening to truth in the morning on 101 7 the truth the truth app and streaming live on 101 7 the truth on
YouTube
then make sure you tune in every Friday at 8 a.m.
to Truth in the Morning with Homer Blow and your girl Bailey Coleman.
What the business is powered by We Energy.
Now each week you'll hear from a local business owner or owners as they share their business, what their business is, where they're located and one valuable lesson that they've learned along the way.
WeEnergies is proud to help power local businesses and the communities they serve.
Don't miss what the business is every Friday at 8 a.m.
only on Truth in the Morning with Homer Blow and Bailey Coleman.
Powered by WeEnergies, delivering the energy that powers local businesses.
Great return Xavier, our producer.
Listen great morning to our YouTube page everybody there great morning.
We love you.
We appreciate you It's one on one seven the truth we're on our way to 9,000 subscribers So make sure while you're here you also hit that like and subscribe aka hit the bell
And on Facebook, you can find us on Facebook and you can watch us live on Facebook as well.
Make sure you like and follow the page while you're there.
All of this is at 1017.
It's true.
We are currently talking about the 33 year old woman that shot.
I don't know how much more allegedly we say shot.
He was shot.
Um, she's not denying that she shot him.
Um, so, but yeah, that.
Cassetta Burrell.
Yeah.
Welcome home.
PWK.
It's our PWK mom.
charged with out with these 22 charges and and to go black to catch the other ones.
I'll go right to the bottom because it talks about other things that she's already still as to the bail jumping at the time of the offense.
Cosetta Burrell is on an open felony case in Milwaukee County where Burrell is charged with identity theft for financial gain.
The case went through intake court.
On November 7, 2025 on that date the defendant was issued cash bail in order to commit no new law violations, which was Which rise to the level of probable cause that condition remains in place
as of the
January 27 2023.
Burrell was found guilty of physical abuse of a child intentional causation of bodily harm, a class H felony in the state of Wisconsin.
Subsequent to that finding, Burrell was placed on probation.
She was revoked from that probation and taken into custody on August 15th of 2024.
So she was black in prison.
Okay.
Burrell remained in custody until July 7th.
You know, they holler at each other from different cells.
But yes, let me go to the current charges now.
Count one first degree reckless injury habitual criminality repeater use of a dangerous weapon count to physical abuse of a child intentional causation of great bodily harm habitual criminality repeater use of a dangerous weapon
count three first degree recklessly endangering safety habitual criminality repeater.
Count five second degree recklessly endangering safety habitual criminality repeater use of a dangerous weapon.
Count six second degree recklessly endangering safety habitual criminality repeater use of a dangerous weapon.
Uh huh.
Count seven second degree recklessly endangering safety habitual criminality repeater use of a dangerous weapon.
Count eight second degree recklessly endangering safety habitual criminality repeater use of a dangerous weapon.
Count nine again.
Second degree same charge.
Second degree count nine is same same charge.
Count 10 same charge.
County 11, same charge.
Count 12, same charge.
Count 13, same charge.
Count 14, same charge.
go
repeater.
vehicle
Y'all didn't miss me.
Order
Don't touch that dial.
Truth in the Morning will be right back on 1017 The Truth, the Truth app and streaming live on 1017 The Truth on YouTube.
You are listening to Truth in the Morning on 1017 The Truth, the Truth app and streaming live on 1017 The Truth on YouTube.
It is your chance to win.
We're giving away a pair of tickets to Black Arts Fest MKE happening Saturday, August 1st at the Summerfest Grounds in Milwaukee.
Don't miss an unforgettable day of music, culture, art, food and community featuring artists Dave Hollister along with the Latimore brothers live on stage.
Listen every day for your cue to call and score your pair of tickets black arts fest MKE Saturday August 1st at the summer fest grounds brought to you by the award-winning 1017 the truth Milwaukee black top so that means you know Make sure you're listening because on all of the shows, you know, we're gonna we gave away a pair of tickets yesterday You know I'm saying we did our product.
Did
don't remember
Yeah, I know when
I sent it out, though.
You said correct people, you know, yeah, yeah, it would
Hey, y'all want to see how mama keep going to prison?
This is a family of
truth?
Yeah, good morning.
Thank you for taking my call.
You know, when I first heard the story,
I know I guess some people can find a little humor in it.
I can't find any humor in this thing because this young man and this woman is blessed that he's not dead because if she would have shot him in a main artery, he would have bled out and all that.
Now, to my understanding, you know, this young man saw these young boys selling water.
He decided to take the water and money and all that, and a woman came and got a call from one of the kids, and then she went in.
like Bailey said, hunting him down, and they got into an argument, and she pulled a firearm and shot him.
Like I said, he's blessed to be alive, and she's blessed that he's not dead.
So the little time that she is going to get, and it was a little time, the parents could murder.
That's why I say it's a little time.
But we always talk about how the young people go around here, and they don't have nothing to do, and they get in all type of trouble.
In an ironic way, she might have saved his life, because when he's still in war today, he could be doing something crazier tomorrow.
And that's all I want to say.
I'm not giving her any talks or anything like that.
But from my point of where I sit, she was dead wrong for doing that.
But you got to leave people alone.
These kids are trying to earn water.
So whenever he see a bottle of water, if you want to laugh, whenever this young man see a bottle of water, he probably be shaking in his boots.
He ain't going to do that again.
Peace.
All right.
Uh, for the other charge, uh, just going in and going with the, uh, penalties for them.
Class C felony for the second charge.
All right.
Physical abuse of a child intentional causation of great bodily harm.
She's facing a $100,000 fine or 40 years in prison or both.
Yes.
We go to the next one, class G felony, $25,000 fine, 10 years in prison or both.
Oh.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Let me also add for each of those that I've read.
She's facing if she's found guilty, she's facing additional six years.
Wisconsin statue penalty enhancer and an additional four years penalty enhancer.
And that's on just the first several charges.
So
I'm talking about when you look at The first charge all right the first charge where she's facing 25 years and not to mention the hundred thousand dollar fine, okay and With that she's also facing an additional six years if she's found guilty on that and additional five years these are
Penalty enhancers.
It's just like for using a dangerous weapon while committing a crime.
You get an automatic five year penalty added on to it.
So you're talking about from it saying that it's going to be 25 years to now what 30 something years.
I'm not
out.
She put, you know, she's searching for him now.
Now she's searching
So and this is on each charge.
She's got two.
Penalty enhancers on whatever the time that she's facing it found guilty of that charge.
So if it's 10 years
Uh, the penalty enhancers on the one where it's on the ones where she's facing 10 years on charges.
It's a four and a five year penalty enhancer, two different penalty enhancers that add another nine years to that 10 years.
Nope.
And.
I understand that, you know, we get upset.
We get all of those things.
We get all those things.
We get upset, frustrated.
That's why I tell people, you know, get your damn kids.
I say it.
I say it all the time.
You do.
So we got to take care of some pills.
Listen, true nation.
When we come back, we got to talk about the David Crowley.
Don't touch that dial.
Truth in the Morning will be right back on 1017 The Truth, the Truth app, and streaming live on 1017 The Truth on YouTube.
You are listening to truth in the morning on 101 7 the truth the truth app and streaming live on 101 7 the truth on
YouTube
It's a bedtime story about the truth family fest Do you own a business or represent a community organization will be a part of the 101.7 the truth family fest on Saturday August 22nd at Riverside University High School Now we're currently accepting vendors and sponsors reserve your space by visiting
TrueFamilyFest.com or email Sierra.Brown at MilwaukeeBlackMedia.com.
Now let me help you spell Sierra's name.
It's C-I-E-R-R-A.
C-I-E-R-R-A.Brown at MilwaukeeBlackMedia.com.
Join one of Milwaukee's favorite community events.
proudly sponsored by Educators Credit Union, American Family Insurance, Milwaukee Public Schools and Arts Working in Education and Ascension.
That was a great story, right?
My mom and dad just go to Riverside University.
That was kind of scary.
That was real scary.
Hiding in the dark, talking like that?
Hiding in the dark?
What do you know with hiding in the dark, talking like that?
Well, you're trying to scare someone.
No, I'm not.
I wouldn't try to scare them.
Oh, you don't like to scare people?
Get up.
She always says she should get a check for me.
Yes,
Yes
I knew you had to do it a lot, you know, cause normally, you know, we try to do it at him, but I'm like, if she going there, I gotta let it go.
You know what I'm saying?
We started it.
So it was like, let's go.
I couldn't get my, you know, but I did.
Okay.
Anyway, you're going to learn today, but no, uh, on a real serious situation here, uh, Madison police department.
officer fired three shots at point blank range into a man who the officers and fellow officers were trying to take into custody in the middle of the street Wednesday afternoon as several witnesses looked on.
Right.
So we're going to play that clip and kind of bring you up to speed if you haven't heard about it.
I mean, it's dominating social media.
Yeah.
People are having their opinions.
A lot of protests are going on up in Madison.
And I just want to make sure that everybody is up to speed and going to play this clip from WISN 12 news.
Producer Xavier is getting that ready.
He'll let me know when it's up and ready to roll.
So if you are watching us on Facebook live or you're on our YouTube page all at one on one seven and truth, you'll be able to follow along where you may have already saw some of the many videos that are circulating around.
that show even more of the situation and unedited as a matter of fact.
So we are ready to play this clip about the Madison shooting of a man in Madison.
Police posted online.
There was a call for a person stealing bikes and checking doors on vehicles.
Now that statement says officers spotted the man you see in that video.
They say he rode off on a bike before they caught up with him at the side of the shooting.
One witness says officers grabbed or tackled the man off the bike and that witness started recording.
Just 12 seconds after this video starts.
The man is tased before an officer shoots him point blank.
Michael Dubek was holding the camera.
Yeah, it was no more than 10 feet away, 5, 10 feet away.
And it happened, as they say, it happened so fast that...
I didn't really have time to react.
It seemed like that they had got him on the ground and then that split second later, three shots to his head.
So it was so surprising, I think, to everybody watching that.
What
cannot be seen from Dubek's perspective is a knife police noted in their public statement online, writing, during the struggle, the man pulled out a fixed blade knife and injured an officer before the shots.
The officer on the far right alerts fellow officers to a knife.
That's when another officer deploys a taser and wrestling the man to the ground.
One officer stomps the man's leg before the officer who called out the knife fires three shots.
The officer who deployed the taser instantly covers her mouth.
11 seconds after the final shot, a different officer tosses a knife to the side and police shared this image of a knife in their
The shooting, prompting protest, and questions over the officer's use of deadly force.
Madison Police Chief, John Patterson.
I caution everyone, this is one perspective.
It is not a full overview of everything that was visible from different angles, certainly visible from the officers.
And again, it involves a fixed blade knife that I think we're fortunate didn't cause more damage.
And
Michael Dubek's video, one of several circulating online tonight, but it is also one of the clearest and it could be crucial considering Madison patrol officers do not wear body cameras.
and body cameras long debated in the city of Madison in 2024.
The department launched a body camera pilot program.
It lasted 90 days.
The hurdle for the city has been the cost of the cameras themselves as well as the storage for the video.
Last year, the Common Council voted down a budget amendment to fund a broad body camera program.
Chief Patterson is pushing for body cameras in the 2027 budget cycle.
Deanna
Derek, let's go back to the officer who fired that fatal shot.
What do we know about him?
Well, Chief Patterson did not.
identify that officer by name, only saying he's a veteran officer.
That officer, along with the three other officers who were trying to take the man into custody, are all on administrative leave, which is a standard practice in deadly use of force incidents.
You got an officer.
Yeah was allegedly injured with the knife Yeah, you might not want to have a weapon that I don't think that the enforcement is designed to Match your energy on what type of weapon you have if you come running at them with a bat
The way they're probably going to respond is, yeah, it's deadly force, imminent danger.
And let alone, unfortunately, if you've injured one of the officers with such knife, and I'm sure there are going to be people to say that he wasn't struggling, I saw struggling.
Oh, there was struggling.
I'm not saying that there was.
Yeah.
black
Truth in the Morning returns after this on 1017 The Truth, the Truth app and streaming live on 1017 The Truth on YouTube.
You are listening to Truth in the Morning on 1017 The Truth, the Truth app and streaming live on 1017 The Truth on YouTube.
We're going
Yeah.
No, I'm just saying all the majority of the protesters that I'm seeing.
Uh, and I don't know if Xavier, you've seen any of the protesters, but it appears to be led by a lot of black people.
I see some white people that are protesting with them, which is what led me to think that he might have been a brother
So, uh, but yeah, that's why, uh, all of the people I've seen, you know, screaming and shouting and all of that on the different protests and they went around this table.
It was a white people sitting around this.
Like we were having an outside dinner, a fine dining type dinner.
Like they had white tablecloths and all of that.
And they kind of like surrounded them and we're saying, well, what are you doing in this, that, and the other?
So that's what kind of brought me to my
Well, we will find out for sure.
Let's get to Israel.
Then we're coming to Mr. Lee.
Then we're coming to Al M.K.E.
Thank you for being patient on our True Talk text line.
Great morning, Israel.
Love you.
Appreciate you.
You hear the conversation and I guess you've had a shooting experience yourself.
What's your truth, Israel?
I'm actually relating to this situation, like not even to my situation.
Okay.
Okay.
I'm about to come at you on a whole other level right now.
All right.
So remember pre 2020 all the police brutality we saw, right?
How that influenced today's like, you know, youth who are now like, you know, adolescent and everything, you know, they're kind of rambunctious on edge and not backing down.
They're defensive and everything.
They're traumatized.
You know, they protest.
Do you see this stuff happening when cops pull people over?
They protest, like pretty much protest instead of complying and everything.
Cops are frustrated because they're on edge.
You never know what somebody's doing.
You've got to follow the law and everything like that.
So, you know, we've got to get over this guilt and trauma and we've got to stop inspiring fear so that way people don't have mental breakdowns, but a bunch of cops come at you like, hey, what are you doing?
right or wrong because that guy in Madison I can probably tell you that he probably did well he's probably he probably was high he probably did have some mental health issues but at the same time we got all this emotion going on right here so he did just enough to argue justification for the shooting but at that time the shooting was unnecessary because you saw even his partner was unhappy with the results of them tazing they had him to do
you know things happen like you know you you know you got progressors get trained to take bums you gotta put your body on the line these cops do can't can't be so delicate by the same time they shouldn't have to take abuse nobody should have to take abuse okay that's
and you know
That's pretty much what I had to say about it.
Get to the point where all the stuff's getting sensationalized.
And it's too close to home for me, where everybody be so stagnant and complacent and frustrating, where everybody just keep going out here holding signs and everything.
Instead of saying, OK, honestly, I could have chilled out.
Honestly, people could have followed protocol.
Honestly, people getting carried away.
Honestly, that was unnecessary.
Leave it at that.
Stop all this emotion and drama right now, because that's too close to home right now for me.
Same to you, big brother, mighty black of you.
You and Bailey, I appreciate you all taking my call.
All right.
So I understand it really quick with Israel saying it's like, you know, all that things that provoke the trauma.
My question was, I didn't see anything.
I don't really look at the YouTube and such like that unless and it comes across when I open my phone.
But my thing was when I got in my vehicle and I heard the situation of the guy and he was recording and he mentioned, okay, there was a tape.
Then there's this shot by the officer, another officer, and then
They're saying that there's a knife or you can hear the woman saying knife.
So what is this, the protocol?
I mean, I thought that the use of a taser and what I've learned and what I know of officers that they will, majority of the time, if one uses a taser, another will also draw their taser if needed to use it.
I didn't know.
It goes from taser to gun, and then confirming that, or what another officer is saying.
I'm just a little, that's my question, and just to give a vote, a little understanding.
All right, thank you.
The truth is the protocol is if you're black, you're dead.
How about that?
Because we
seeing white people pull our AI-15 butcher knives.
and jump on them and they were white as cocaine and they went the extra mile.
But let's go a little deeper.
Black man and Grand Rapids Michigan hand cup behind his back three bullets in the head and the dog chewed them in his neck.
Okay, they will find that guilty.
Boy in the back of the car knocking, shot in the head in the back of the squad car handcuffs, not guilty.
And now we have this going on.
And let's not forget the man in Washington, DC, black man slapping his car woke up to bullets.
If you're black, you're guilty.
If you're white, then they have a protocol, because you know, with white people, they come with attorneys.
So we got to stop saying, well, police officers go through so much.
Well, if you don't want to be here, don't do the job.
But remember, anything that's black is negative.
And these police officers and you can do your research as well.
If you're black, they are taught to get rid of the problem.
And they are trained.
They should go a little harder on you if you're black or Latino.
So we should stop sitting here acting like, oh, they go through so much.
We know you got to hide your suicide rate.
We know you're doped up on coke.
And we know a lot of you white police officers was raised with fail health from your mama and daddy to look at black people as hard to practice.
So we don't got to play stupid.
Don't we find it out?
All the people that's getting shot in the head is black.
Why they won't shoot Savannah Davenport in her mouth?
Fantastic.
Why they won't shoot Jim John Jones, Shababowski, Buproski, with an AI-15 and put the dog on a man's shoulder and his foot in his back?
Why is it they want to put it on Sam, you know, Sam Shishoski and put 100 bullets into his car?
You know why?
Because they protect their white if you're black We're gonna put so much lead up and you you can be the person to sign the number two pencil when you fill out that paper on the death report We're not stupid.
Y'all have yourself a good day.
Happy first day.
Bye bye.
So, you know, it's, it's, this is why, in my opinion, that, that, you know, we've always wanted to, and that's why I say, what's your truth?
Right.
Because to hear the different perspectives.
Yes.
And you have to, you know, pay attention to them.
And that's why when I say, you know, what's your truth?
What's the solution to something?
Every little bit.
It helps like somebody may say something, man, I mean, that's really off the mark.
But maybe this part of what they said, that's something we can think about that may be able to help get us to where we need to get.
And we're able to kind of like take all of the different things.
And, and I think in the end, the end game for me is to make sure that people who are listening, black, white, whatever, uh, think you have to really think like, right.
I didn't think about it from that perspective.
No,
Yeah.
And if we can, we can end up becoming better and making the kind of changes that are necessary in our community and and with some of our people who are, you know what I'm saying?
On a wild side, we're going to be in a better place.
Like if we practice seven principles of Kwanzaa as black people.
We our community would be in a much better place.
Yeah.
Take care of some bills, Bailey.
I know you may have some things over there on the True Tuck text line.
Call in True Nation.
We want to hear from you.
We're also going to be looking at our YouTube page.
Find out what y'all saying over there.
8332121017.
I'm the legendary home blow along with my girl, Bailey Coleman, who thinks he's
white.
Truth in the Morning returns after this on 1017 The Truth, the Truth app and streaming live on 1017 The Truth on YouTube.
You are listening to Truth in the Morning on 1017 The Truth, the Truth app and streaming live on 1017 The Truth on YouTube.
The truth, of course, we're broadcasting live from the American Family Insurance Studio in the heart of downtown at the Avenue.
Talking about this Madison situation, I wanna, I gotta try to find some of those protests that were online, even if we can't play the audio, because they letting them have it, but it was one in particular where they were up in Madison.
And they were around these white people that were surrounded.
And I guess it may have been one or two black people and they were like kind of calling them out like, yeah, y'all sitting there.
But it and the white people sitting at the table look unbothered, even though it looked like 50 or more people were in that protest.
So, you know, it may have been a hundred or more or whatever.
But
So, um, I'm like, if that was, um, a situation like it.
Hmm.
So whoever it was, they, they lost their life.
And yeah, to a lot of people feeling that it was unjustified.
I'm hearing from, uh, former law enforcement was like, uh, it was the way that these officers.
Handled that situation said great morning blow Regarding the police shooting in Madison It is my opinion that this young person would still be alive if proper arrest techniques had been used by the four Not one but four officers said they looked like they were keystone cops
Oh, wow.
And it did.
Like, what would we do?
How do we handle this?
And yeah.
Well,
Yes
course,
but I want
Okay.
And, and tell me, you know, if you're kind of seeing, and I don't know exactly which clip, but Xavier, our producer, you can start that clip to playing.
So if you're watching us on again, YouTube or Facebook live, again, when I see the protest, so it's hundreds.
So again, I'm.
I'm saying that it was like at least 50.
I knew it was a lot Okay, it was a lot, but
It's like a couple hundred.
I'm gonna let you read that.
But yeah, 833-212-1017.
That is the number.
If you want to share your truth, you know, what's your feeling on this situation?
Is it the same old thing?
You know what I'm saying?
The usual storyline.
What did you see?
You saw the video clip.
What did you see?
Did you see where they use too much force?
They didn't have to do it.
Did you see a man that was struggling and a man that did have a knife and may have injured an officer like they're saying?
Like Madison law enforcement is saying that no, he injured an officer and it eventually ended up being that same officer that was injured by the knife and you do see a knife thrown out, you know,
like they finally got it from the man.
And right after that, that same man that say he got a knife, he got a knife injured by the knife shot him in the head.
I believe it's three headshots.
Mm hmm.
Miss Sassy said.
Then police are so hype up on Red Bull coffee and other stimulants and supercharged, just ready to shoot off the firearms.
No, maybe some are, you know, I mean, if all you can drink all day is coffee, I guess you would be hype, right?
or Red Bull.
And then this other one.
Let me review this before we talk about this.
Go ahead.
Okay.
833-212-1017.
We want to get your take on this.
You're listening to Truth in the Morning.
And, you know, unfortunately, we are not unfamiliar with these type of situations.
But the reality and then with them not having body cams that that really doesn't help the narrative for their law enforcement.
And for those who have different clips that show different angles of the shooting, you know, it's telling a story that has people kind of confused like I saw a killing.
Okay.
Let me give you this when you're ready.
Yep Okay, this is Courtney off our truth talk text line a 3 3 2 1 2 10 17 if you want to get in on this conversation Courtney said
that as a white woman, here is my truth.
I said this at Rodney King.
I said this at George Floyd.
I have said this multiple times in other scenarios where black people have been shot or killed by cops for absolutely no reason.
It would not happen to me.
I could throw a pot of boiling water on a cop and not get shot because I'm white.
I could be resisting arrest.
Maybe I'd get some bruises, but I would not be shot.
It's pure and simple.
My privilege gives me the benefit of the doubt, which saves my life.
And that is disgusting.
You know what?
Those are facts.
That's why you know people always like oh you just throwing in the black factor But no Usually the black person doesn't with did we not show a video?
I think I mean there's been multiple videos that we've shown on this show
right
Right?
it a
don't know what that white guy had on him that the video we showed you all the other day And maybe we can pull that out again somewhere.
I don't know if we have that still Xavier, but You know They don't do that black people don't have that privilege.
They don't have that benefit if you're a person of color Mm-hmm.
It isn't your best interest To be as calm as possible.
Yep when being approached by a police officer
Because if you're not you could end up not going you could end up not going home that part because that's the common that is the common thing Black person just like this brother didn't get a chance to go home You know and I'm not saying he was right for having a knife on him or any of the things or even how he reacted I am not but especially if you go out to these protests and whatever
Have your right mind on you.
Mm-hmm.
Don't be carrying no weapons if you black don't care no weapon I know we got concealed carrying all the things But they wasn't asking him if he had concealed carry nope I mean they didn't ask him nothing.
It was just like attack mm-hmm, you know
Of course, we don't know the preamble when they were trying to talk to him, you know in the come up,
we'll be black.
Truth in the morning returns after this on 101 7 the truth the truth app and streaming live on 101 7 the truth on YouTube You are listening to truth in the morning on 101 7 the truth the truth app and streaming live on 101 7 the truth on YouTube
page and all
It's
I'm not gonna do
yeah come
yeah
when you
my
you.
It's my
page.
And I'm
Yeah, they're trying to
like just
That's it.
But we got so
or you give them the same murder of
that.
Yeah.
But I got some over here on the two talk text line as we wrap up today's show.
Ray said it seems like police were just too scary.
And this is why they shot the man that.
Men that many that many times, even when they say had him under control, unlike the Incredible Hulk white white man last week.
Yeah, the white guy,
Yeah.
I just wanted to comment on like Bailey's statement about like people being desensitized growing up as a kid that you know I kind of you know I'm probably one of the first waves of kids that grown up with the internet full access you know seeing the videos because I grew up in kind of like the wild wild west of the internet okay
you
know the live leak videos and stuff
oh yeah
yeah and you know gore.com and stuff like that yeah
People are definitely desensitized like me.
I just watched the video that the guy sent and you know, literally the guys.
it because it's even gross to
it.
Yeah.
But like me seeing that, I mean, obviously it affected me, but it's like, I don't know, me growing up seeing like cartel videos where they are executing people or something like that.
Or it's like, you know, it's sad to say, but yeah.
Lot of people you wanted to do sensitize people.
Yes, but I will say it does affect me I will say like when I saw it.
I did feel bad.
I wasn't like oh I'm just get some desensitized the gore but To the act of what happened to him.
I definitely you know feel remorse and sorrow for him because those three shots of the head that was completely uncalled for
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it's kind of crazy how we're the only country that really has like these shootings, because like, you know, say like a place like in England, where they have no guns or where they have to be trained on the fight people with knives and stuff like that.
They
don't have these, they don't have these conversations.
I've seen multiple videos where people have knives in these countries and stuff like that
and
cops managed to take them down without shooting them.
Yeah, because most in in those countries cops don't even most cops don't even care.
I walk around with guns, right?
Yeah, sure.
That's true.
Most most cops don't have guns and they were talking about when they were doing the teen takeover things.
I noted in the story it was happening in the the predominantly African-American area over in England.
And you know what?
They were like, we don't have guns.
Yeah, our police officers do not have guns.
Right.
Yeah, they do have armed officers, but they have to pronounce that they're armed officers.
And like those are only special units that come in right like the standard cop.
You're Billy Club.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it is crazy and even just to show the deterioration in my opinion of people and especially like in our community, I can speak on them because I see it daily.
Yes.
I come up where if somebody started fighting, you went the other damn way.
Yeah.
If you heard gunshots, you went the other way.
We got some generations of people that they run to the fight.
Right.
They watch the beating and the abuse and and and seeing the person.
Oh, they busted his head open
and
Like, yeah, keep on kicking them and hitting them and beating them with a bat or a pole.
Like, just all of this or the person is dead.
Hey, they just shot somebody.
You gonna run down to the scene.
Yeah, where they said they just shot somebody.
Yeah law enforcement hasn't clear cleared the scene Yeah, most of the time the ambulance won't even go in yeah until law enforcement comes and Secures the scene.
Yeah, so they can go in there sit half a block down that part
We're not
that's
Of course, followed up by the lunch break with Ray nitty and maybe Shannon from noon to two.
That's their new hours.
And of course, Menon severe with the grapevine new hours 2 p.m.
to 4 p.m.
And tap in with Jazz Tyler from 4 p.m.
to 7 p.m.
Central Standard Time.
If nobody has told you that they love you today, I want to let you know that I love you.
Please be safe.
I love black.
You are listening to truth in the morning on 101 7 the truth the truth app and streaming live on 101 7 the truth on
YouTube
It's a bedtime story about the truth family fest Do you own a business or represent a community organization will be a part of the 101.7 the truth family fest on Saturday August 22nd at Riverside University High School Now we're currently accepting vendors and sponsors reserve your space by visiting
TrueFamilyFest.com or email Sierra.Brown at MilwaukeeBlackMedia.com.
Now let me help you spell Sierra's name.
It's C-I-E-R-R-A.
C-I-E-R-R-A.Brown at MilwaukeeBlackMedia.com.
Join one of Milwaukee's favorite community events.
proudly sponsored by Educators Credit Union, American Family Insurance, Milwaukee Public Schools, and Arts Working in Education, and Ascension.
That was a great story,
right?
That's kind
That was real scary.
Hiding in the dark, talking like that?
in the dark.
What do you know with hiding in the dark talking like that?
Well, you're trying to scare someone.
No, I'm not.
I wouldn't
to scare them.
Oh, you don't like to scare people?
Get up!
always says she should get a check for me.
Yes.
Yes.
But I did.
Okay.
You're going to learn today.
But no, on a real serious situation here, Madison Police Department officer fired three shots at point blank range into a man who the officers and fellow officers were trying to take into custody in the middle of a street Wednesday afternoon as several witnesses looked on.
Right.
So we're going to play that clip and kind of bring you up to speed if you haven't heard about it.
Yeah.
I mean, it's, it's dominating social media.
Yeah.
Uh, a lot of protests are going on up in Madison and, um, I just want to make sure that everybody is up to speed and going to play this clip from WISN 12 news.
Uh, producer Xavier is getting that ready.
He'll let me know when it's.
Up and ready to roll.
So if you are watching us on Facebook live or you're on our YouTube page all at one on one seven the truth You'll be able to follow along or you may have already saw some of the many videos that are circulating around that show even more of the situation And unedited as a matter of fact So we are ready to play this clip about the Madison shooting of a man in Madison
Police posted online.
There was a call for a person stealing bikes and checking doors on vehicles.
Now that statement says officers spotted the man you see in that video.
They say he rode off on a bike before they caught up with him at the side of the shooting.
One witness says officers grabbed or tackled the man off the bike and that witness started recording.
Just 12 seconds after this video starts.
A man is tased before an officer shoots him point blank.
Michael Dubek was holding the camera.
Yeah, it was about no more than 10 feet away, 5, 10 feet away.
And it happened, as they say, it happened so fast that...
I didn't really have time to react.
It seemed like that they had got him on the ground and then that split second later, three shots to his head.
So it was so surprising, I think, to
everybody watching that.
What cannot be seen from Dubek's perspective is a knife police noted in their public statement online, writing, during the struggle, the man pulled out a fixed blade knife and injured an officer before the shots.
The officer on the far right alerts fellow officers to a knife.
That's when another officer deploys a taser and wrestling the man to the ground.
One officer stomps the man's leg before the officer who called out the knife fires three shots.
The officer who deployed the taser instantly covers her mouth.
11 seconds after the final shot, a different officer tosses a knife to the side and police shared this image of a knife in their
The shooting, prompting protest, and questions over the officers' use of deadly force.
Madison Police Chief, John Patterson.
I caution everyone.
This is one perspective.
It is not a full overview of everything that was visible from different angles, certainly visible from the officers.
And again, it involves a fixed blade knife that I think we're fortunate didn't cause more damage.
And
Michael Dubek's video, one of several circulating online tonight, but it is also one of the clearest and it could be crucial considering Madison patrol officers do not wear body cameras.
and body cameras long debated in the city of Madison in 2024.
The department launched a body camera pilot program.
It lasted 90 days.
The hurdle for the city has been the cost of the cameras themselves as well as the storage for the video.
Last year, the Common Council voted down a budget amendment to fund a broad body camera program.
Chief Patterson is pushing for body cameras in the 2027 budget cycle.
Deanna
Derek, let's go back to the officer who fired that fatal shot.
What do we know about him?
Well, Chief Patterson did not.
identify that officer by name, only saying he's a veteran officer.
That officer, along with the three other officers who were trying to take the man into custody, are all on administrative leave, which is a standard practice in deadly use of force incidents.
You got an officer.
Yeah was allegedly injured with the knife Yeah, you might not want to have a weapon that I don't think that The enforcement is designed to match your energy on what type of weapon you have if you come running at them with a bat
The way they're probably going to respond is, yeah, it's deadly force, imminent danger.
And let alone, unfortunately, if you've injured one of the officers with such knife, and I'm sure there are going to be people to say that he wasn't struggling, I saw struggling.
Truth in the Morning returns after this on 1017 The Truth, the Truth app and streaming live on 1017 The Truth on YouTube.
You are listening to Truth in the Morning on 1017 The Truth, the Truth app and streaming live on 1017 The Truth on YouTube.
We're going,
Yeah.
No, I'm just saying all the majority of the protesters that I'm seeing.
Uh, and I don't know if Xavier, you've seen any of the protesters, but it appears to be led by a lot of black people.
I see some white people that are protesting with them, which is what led me to think that he might have been a brother
So, uh, but yeah, that's why, uh, all of the people I've seen, you know, screaming and shouting and all of that on the different protests and they went around this table.
It was, uh, white people sitting around this, like they were having an outside, uh, dinner, uh, a fine dining type dinner.
Like they had white tablecloths and all of that.
And they kind of like surrounded them and we're saying, well, what are you doing?
And this, that and the other.
So.
That's what kind of brought me to my red
So he's black.
Well, we will find out for sure.
Let's get to Israel.
Then we're coming to Mr. Lee.
Then we come in for to Al M. K. E. Okay.
Thank you for being patient on our true text line.
Great morning, Israel.
Love you.
Appreciate you.
You hear the conversation and I guess you've had a shooting experience yourself.
What's your truth, Israel?
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
I'm about to come at you on a whole another level right now.
All right.
So remember pre 2020, all the police brutality we saw, right?
How that influenced today's like, you know, youth who are now like, you know, adolescent and everything, you know, they're kind of rambunctious on edge and not backing down.
They're defensive and everything.
They're traumatized.
They're, you know, they protest.
Do you see this stuff happening when cops pull people over?
They protest, like pretty much protest instead of complying and everything.
Cops are frustrated because they're on edge.
You never know what somebody's doing.
You got to follow the law and everything like that.
So, you know, we got to get over this guilt and trauma and we got to stop inspiring fear.
So that way people don't have mental breakdowns, but a bunch of cops come at you like, hey, what are you doing?
right or wrong because that guy in Madison I can probably tell you that he probably did well he's probably he probably was high he probably did have some mental health issues but at the same time we got all this emotion going on right here so he did just enough to argue justification for the shooting but at that time the shooting was unnecessary because you saw even his partner was unhappy with the results of them tazing they had him to do
you know things happen like you know you you know you got progressors get trained to take bumps you gotta
put
your body on the line these cops do can't can't be so delicate by the same time they shouldn't have to take abuse nobody should have to take abuse okay that's
and you know
That's pretty much what I had to say about it.
All the stuff's getting sensationalized.
And it's too close to home for me, where everybody be so stagnant, complacent and frustrating, where everybody just keep going out here holding signs and everything.
Instead of saying, OK, honestly, I could have chilled out.
Honestly, people could have followed protocol.
Honestly, people getting carried away.
Honestly, that was unnecessary.
Leave it at that.
Stop all this emotion and drama right now, because that's too close to home right now for me.
Same to you, big brother, mighty black of you.
You and Bailey, I appreciate you all taking my call.
All right.
So I understand it really quick with Israel's saying it's like, you know, all that things that provoke the trauma.
My question was, I didn't see anything.
I don't really look at the YouTube and such like that unless and it comes across when I went from a phone book.
My thing was when I got in my vehicle and I heard the situation of the guy and he was recording and he mentioned, okay, there was a tape.
Then there's this.
shot by the officer, another officer, and then they're saying that there's a knife or you can hear the woman saying knife.
So what is this, the protocol?
I mean, I thought that the use of a taser and what I've learned and what I know of officers that they will
majority of the time, if one uses a taser, another will also draw their taser if needed to use it.
I didn't know it goes from taser to gun and then confirming that or what another officer is saying.
I'm just a little, that's my question, and just to give a vote, a little understanding.
All right, thank you.
The truth is the protocol is if you're black, you're dead.
How about that?
Because we
seeing white people pull our AI-15 butcher knives.
and jump on them and they were white as cocaine and they went the extra mile.
But let's go a little deeper.
Black man and Grand Rapids Michigan hand cup behind his back three bullets in the head and the dog chewed them in his neck.
Okay, they will find that guilty.
Boy in the back of the car knocking saw shot in the head in the back of the squad car handcuffs not guilty.
And now we have this going on, and let's not forget the man in Washington, DC, black man slapping his car woke up to bullets.
If you're black, you're guilty.
If you're white, then they have a protocol, because you know, with white people, they come with attorneys.
So we got to stop saying, well, police officers go through so much.
Well, if you don't want to be here, don't do the job.
But remember, anything that's black is negative.
And these police officers and you can do your research as well.
If you're black, they are taught to get rid of the problem.
And they are trained.
They should go a little harder on you if you're black or Latino.
So we should stop sitting here acting like, oh, they go through so much.
We know you got to hide your suicide rate.
We know you're doped up on coke.
And we know a lot of you white police officers was raised with fail health from your mama and daddy to look at black people as hard to practice.
So we don't got to play stupid.
Don't we find it out?
All the people that's getting shot in the head is black.
Why they won't shoot Savannah Davenport in her mouth?
Fantastic.
Why they won't shoot Jim John Jones, Shaba Bowsky, Buprosky, with an AI-15 and put the drug on a man, shoot him in his foot and his back?
Why is it they want to put it on Sam, you know, Sam Shishosky and put 100 bullets into his car?
You know why?
Because they protect their white if you're black We're gonna put so much lead up and you you can be the person to sign the number two pencil when you fill out that paper on the death report We're not stupid.
Y'all have yourself a good day.
Happy Thursday.
Yes.
And you have to, you know, pay attention to them.
And that's why when I say, you know, what's your truth?
What's the solution to something?
Every little bit.
It helps like somebody may say something, man, I mean, that's really off the mark.
But maybe this part of what they said, that's something we can think about that may be able to help get us to where we need to get.
And we're able to kind of like take all of the different things.
And, and I think in the end, the end game for me is to make sure that people who are listening, black, white, whatever, uh, think you have to really think like, right.
I didn't think about it from that perspective.
No,
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Take care of some bills, Bailey.
I know you may have some things over there on the truth text line.
Call in true nation.
We want to hear from you.
We're also going to be looking at our YouTube page.
Find out what you're saying over there.
8332121017.
I'm the legendary home blow along with my girl, Bailey Coleman, who thinks he's
white.
Truth in the Morning returns after this on 1017 The Truth, the Truth app, and streaming live on 1017 The Truth on YouTube.
You are listening to Truth in the Morning on 1017 The Truth, the Truth app, and streaming live on 1017 The Truth on YouTube.
The truth, of course, we're broadcasting live from the American Family Insurance Studio in the heart of downtown at the Avenue.
Talking about this Madison situation, I wanna, I gotta try to find some of those protests that were online, even if we can't play the audio, because they, they, they, they letting them have it, but it was one in particular where they were up in Madison.
And they were around these white people that were around it.
And I guess it may have been one or two black people and they were like kind of calling them out like, yeah, y'all sitting there.
But it and the white people sitting at the table look unbothered, even though it looked like 50 or more people were in that protest.
So, you know, it may have been a hundred or more or whatever.
But
So I'm like, if that was a situation like it.
Hmm.
So whoever it was, they lost their life.
And yeah, to a lot of people feeling that it was unjustified.
I'm hearing from former law enforcement was like, it was the way that these officers.
Handled that situation said great morning blow Regarding the police shooting in Madison It is my opinion that this young person would still be alive if proper arrest techniques had been used by the four Not one but four officers said they looked like they were keystone cops
Oh, wow.
And it did.
Like, what would we do?
How do we handle this?
And yeah.
Yes
course,
but I want
Okay.
And, and tell me, you know, if you're kind of seeing, and I don't know exactly which clip, but Xavier, our producer, you can start that clip to playing.
So if you're watching us on, again, YouTube or Facebook live, again, when I see the protest, so it's hundreds.
So again, I'm.
I'm saying that it was like at least 50.
I knew it was a lot Okay, there's a lot but
It's like a couple hundred.
I'm gonna let you read that.
But yeah, 833-212-1017.
That is the number if you want to share your truth.
You know, what's your feeling on this situation?
Is it the same old thing?
You know what I'm saying?
The usual storyline.
What did you see?
You saw the video clip.
What did you see?
Did you see where they use too much force?
They didn't have to do it.
Did you see a man that was struggling and a man that did have a knife and may have injured an officer like they're saying?
Like Madison law enforcement is saying that no, he injured an officer and it eventually ended up being that same officer that was injured by the knife and you do see a knife thrown out, you know,
Like they finally got it from the man and right after that, that same man that say he got a knife, he got a knife injured by the knife.
Shot him in the head.
I believe it's three headshots.
He was gone.
Watch the video on the internet.
It's probably Yeah, I didn't see that video Miss sassy said Then police are so hype up on Red Bull coffee and other stimulants and Supercharged just ready to shoot off the firearms No, maybe some are you know, I mean if all you can drink all day is coffee.
I guess you would be hype, right?
or Red Bull.
And then this other one.
Let me review this before we talk about this.
Go ahead.
Okay.
833-212-1017.
We want to get your take on this.
You're listening to Truth in the Morning.
And, you know, unfortunately we are not unfamiliar with these type of situations.
But the reality and then with them not having body cams that that really doesn't help the narrative for their law enforcement.
And for those who have different clips that show different angles of the shooting,
Okay.
Let me give you this one.
You ready?
Yep.
Okay.
This is Courtney off our truth talk text line a 3 3 2 1 2 10 17 if you want to get in on this conversation Courtney said
that as a white woman, here is my truth.
I said this at Rodney King.
I said this at George Floyd.
I have said this multiple times in other scenarios where black people have been shot or killed by cops for absolutely no reason.
It would not happen to me.
I could throw a pot of boiling water on a cop and not get shot because I'm white.
I could be resisting arrest.
Maybe I'd get some bruises, but I would not be shot.
It's pure and simple.
My privilege gives me the benefit of the doubt, which saves my life.
And that is disgusting.
You know what?
Those are facts.
That's why you know people always like oh you just throwing in the black factor But no Usually the black person doesn't with did we not show a video?
I think I mean there's been multiple videos that we've shown on this show where a Caucasian person a white person confronts a police officer and what happens one white the last one we showed you guys
Not only was he confronting a police officer, but he started chasing the cop had pushed the cop down to the ground Was wrestling with the police officer Mm-hmm and nothing happened and the cop the cop kept trying to taste him But he didn't pull out no gun when this guy and tell me he didn't feel like his life was threatened,
Let's be real.
They pulling they gonna in this scenario They had tased this guy Mm-hmm.
They had tased him Not they didn't wait for any kind of effect to happen.
Usually, you know, give it a few stuff.
They see a knife Do they have control of the knife or anything?
Right?
You don't know if they immediately had control of
It seemed like they grabbed the knife and threw it out pretty quickly if you look back at the video Mm-hmm, and I'm not saying I'm here's my thing You know Give it a beat You know give
it a
don't know what that white guy had on him that the video we showed you all the other day And maybe we can pull that out again somewhere.
I don't know if we have that still Xavier, but You know They don't do that black people don't have that privilege.
They don't have that benefit if you're a person of color Mm-hmm.
It isn't your best interest To be as calm as possible.
Yep when being approached by a police officer
Because if you're not you could end up not going you could end up not going home that part because that's the common that is the common thing Black person just like this brother didn't get a chance to go home You know and I'm not saying he was right for having a knife on him or any of the things or even how he reacted I am not but especially if you go out to these protests and whatever
Have your right mind on you.
Mm-hmm.
Don't be carrying no weapons if you black don't care no weapon I know we got concealed carrying all the things But they wasn't asking him if he had concealed carry nope
It was just like attack mm-hmm, you know
No, of course, we don't know the preamble when they were trying to talk to him, you know in the come up, you know Approaching the situation, but I'm telling you if you're a person of color And it could happen to Hispanic people too.
bills and we'll be black.
Truth
in the morning returns after this on 1017 the truth the truth app and streaming live on 1017 the truth on YouTube You are listening to truth in the morning on 1017 the truth the truth app and streaming live on 1017 the truth on YouTube
They put some crazy stuff.
That's what I'll be talking about.
They put some crazy stuff because it's still up.
on all kinds of social media sites.
It's still up.
Somebody's showing it on the YouTube page and all that.
But we're not going to do that.
Because one of the things that I always talk about and even in...
my other platform that I have.
It's
Yeah.
Come
Yeah.
you
you.
That's my
And I'm
Yeah, they're trying to get the meta check that they're thinking it's gonna be all these millions of dollars and it's not and if it's really worth your Your self-respect.
I just have some kind of the quorum about yourself.
That's it.
But we got so many people that don't care.
Yeah.
Yeah, and you know, I gotta you know So
it
or you giving us a murder of
that.
Yeah.
no,
But I got some over here on the two talk text line as we wrap up today's show.
Ray said it seems like police were just too scary.
And this is why they shot the man that.
Men that many that many times, even when they say had him under control, unlike the Incredible Hulk white white man last week.
Yeah, the white guy right big CC said There was no reason for them to fire three shots into this guy.
That's true You know, I mean They need to have a little bit more patience.
I know they're concerned for their own lives too.
I do get that part, right?
but Yeah
And that's kind of like where Sean Avery senior on the YouTube page will say as a civilian, of course I see excessive force.
However, cops are trained to stop the threat and they have discretion on what level of force to use just like the Greendale cop took a beating by a man.
That part and that man did not get shot.
Discretion.
Yeah, that part.
Our producer Xavier, like he added something that he wanted to add.
What's your truth Xavier?
I just wanted to comment on like Bailey's statement about like people being desensitized growing up as a kid that you know I kind of you know, I'm probably one of the first waves of kids that grown up with the internet full access You know seeing the videos because I grew up in kind of like the wild wild west of the internet
Okay, you
know the live league videos and stuff.
Oh, yeah,
yeah, and you know gore.com and stuff like that
People are definitely desensitized like me.
I just watched the video that the guy sent and you know, literally the guys.
But like me seeing that, I mean, obviously it affected me, but it's like, I don't know, me growing up seeing like cartel videos where they
people
something like that.
Yeah.
like, you know, it's sad to say, but yeah, I'm a lot.
You
but I will say it does affect me.
I will say like when I saw it, I did feel bad.
I wasn't like, oh, I guess I'm desensitized to the gore.
But to the act of what happened to him, I definitely, you know, feel remorse and sorrow for him because those three shots of the head that was completely uncalled for.
Yeah,
yeah,
and it's kind of crazy how we're the only country that really has like these shootings Because like you know say like a place like in England where they have no guns or where they have to be trained on to fight people with knives and stuff like that
They
don't have these they don't have these conversations I've seen multiple videos where people have knives in these like countries and stuff like that
and
cops manage to take them down without shooting them Yeah, because most in those countries
Cops only most cops don't even care.
I walk around with guns, right?
Yeah, that's true.
situation.
Yeah.
Because
Right.
Yeah, they do have armed officers, but they have to pronounce that they're armed officers.
And like those are only special units that come in right like the
Standard cop mm-hmm Billy club.
Yep.
Yeah, but it is crazy and even Just to show the deterioration in my opinion of people and especially like in our community I can speak on them because I see it daily.
Yes, I Come up where if somebody started fighting you went the other damn way
If you heard gunshots, you went the other way.
We got some generations of people that they run to the fight.
They watch the beating and the abuse and seeing the person, oh, they busted his head open and they still like, we want more.
Like, keep on kicking him and hitting him and beating him with a bat or a pole.
Like, just all of this or
the
Hey, they just shot somebody.
You gonna run down to the scene.
Yeah, where they said they just shot somebody law enforcement hasn't clear cleared the scene Yeah, most of the time the ambulance won't even go in yeah until law enforcement comes and Secures the scene.
Yeah, so they can go in there sit half a block down that
part We
Of course, followed up by the lunch break with Ray Nitty and maybe Shannon from noon to two.
That's their new hours.
And of course, Menon Severe with the grapevine, new hours, 2 p.m.
to 4 p.m.
and tap in with Jazz Tyler from 4 p.m.
to 7 p.m.
Central Standard Time.
If nobody has told you that they love you today, I wanna let you know that I love you.
Please be safe.
I love black.