Governor Tony Evers stands firm against the Trump administration's Tom Holman, who criticized Evers' guidance to state employees on handling ICE agents. Evers, labeled as 'courageous' by many, rebuffs Holman, asserting he follows the law. Meanwhile, Wisconsin Republican Rep. Callahan calls for Evers' arrest, echoing Trump's aggressive tactics. Todd, along with guest Trygve Olson of the Lincoln Project, dissect the implications on democracy, highlighting a global autocratic vs. democratic battle. Amidst this chaos, the episode questions if America is veering towards autocracy, urging listeners to defend democratic values.

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