BREAKING: Yet Another Two-Year UW Campus Closure (Hour 1)

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And now, pursuing truth wherever it may lead, here's your host, Todd Alba.

title of all show for this Friday, October 17th, 2025, six minutes now past the hour of two o'clock.

We start the show on this Friday with breaking news along with producer engineer Aaron Zommer as we welcome you in lots to get to today.

But making the news headlines about an hour ago, our very own Jimmy Cusca reporting this initially as part of his role is calling sporting events for the UW-Platteville Athletic Department.

Therefore, Jimmy is on the UW-Platteville official mailing list.

He first let us know this news and now Channel 3000, WISC TV.

CBS affiliate here in Platteville, the headline this afternoon, the University of Wisconsin Platteville Baraboo, Salk County campus is closing in the spring semester after the spring semester of 2026.

Here's the story courtesy of Channel 3000, the University of Wisconsin Platteville will be ceasing operations on its Baraboo Salk County campus effective May 22nd, 2026.

The decision came after, quote, careful considerations, unquote, that students, staff, and faculty are supported throughout this transition.

Officials said that the spring 2026 semester will continue as planned with in-person classes at the Baraboo-Saw County campus.

UW-Platteville is set to help students transition to the main campus.

The university will develop individualized plans for the staff.

and faculty.

The statement coming from UW-Platteville Chancellor Tammy Ivanovich says, quote, this decision was not made lightly.

Enrollment continues to decline on that campus, and we are committed to being good partners with the city and county by ensuring that the campus can be used in ways that best serve the region.

We remain dedicated to supporting our students, faculty, and staff through the transition.

student successes at the heart of our mission and it goes on from there on quote that are some of the words of the UW-platform part of the UW-platform Chancellor which oversees UW-Baraboo as well.

The campus opened in 1968.

And of course, comes after the first of the two-year campuses in the W system, one of 13 at the time, University of Wisconsin, Center Richland.

We were there when that news first broke.

And subsequently, by my count, and I'll stand corrected, by my count, this is now the seventh.

of the 13 two-year campuses that will be closed under the tenure of the University of Wisconsin System President Jay Rothman and during the term of Democratic Governor Tony Evers.

Joining us to discuss this breaking news via telephone from his home in Richland Center, the former...

Wisconsin State Senate Majority Leader, Republican Dale Schultz, who also served in many roles over his time in the legislature as the chair of the Higher Education Committee in the State Senate, which oversees both the UW system and the technical college system in this state.

And of course, he spent time on the powerful Joint Finance Committee.

Dale, and in full disclosure, I was Dale's chief of staff for a time as well.

Dale, good afternoon.

Thank you for making time on this disturbing news afternoon.

Well, good

afternoon, Todd.

This is indeed disturbing news.

You know, I was always very proud of the University of Wisconsin when it believed that the borders of the university are the borders of the state.

With each campus that closes, those borders shrink in size, and the students, the traditional and non-traditional students who depended on these campuses,

find themselves being left high and dry.

And for a state that once prided itself on its educational prowess, it is indeed a sad day.

And you know what is so insulting is that once again, the University Board of Regents and administration didn't hold a public discussion and forum.

And yes, they dropped the news.

Late on Friday, where all news goes to the graveyard as quickly as possible.

Dale, you represented, correctly if I'm wrong, over your 30 plus years in the state legislature, the assembly, and the state senate, you always either represented, you know, you're Baraboo, you know, you're Richland, or you'll be Plathville, or at one time, I think all three.

So you're keenly aware of the needs and the resources.

of these universities in southwest Wisconsin.

And it would seem to me, and what I find to be particularly disingenuous in this is Chancellor Ivanovich saying that they're going to be there to help the community transition.

We know that UW Richland County, another very financially strained county where you're at, I'm from, and

Howard Marklein and Tony Kurtz got $2 million in the last budget through the Joint Finance Committee to help Richland County quote unquote transition.

But the untold story is Richland County had to take over a million dollars of that just to build a new bridge to get the equipment onto campus to help do some of these things that need to be done.

Where's the promise for actual dollars for Sauk County Dale and talk to us a little bit about, you know, about this.

Sauk County taxpayers have already allocated resources that were very needed for their county nursing home because they were told that if they did that, the UW system in Plaffville would work to save this Baribu campus.

Well, that's pretty much the story.

And I think once again,

You know, the rug was pulled out from underneath folks and people in this area who are worried about the economy like they are in many places in this country, particularly young people, you know, the ability to

be job worthy depends on continuing education and access to education.

And this just is another nail in the coffin.

And it means that rural areas and smaller communities are going to not prosper like they should.

I mean, I don't know that I can say that these communities will dry up and blow away, but I do know.

that they've invested considerable money, resources, time in trying to make this a cornerstone of industrial development, tourism, and a way to bring young people back to these communities.

And now it appears to be for naught.

We're talking with former State Senate Majority Leader Dale Schultz of Richland Center, Republican, also served as the chair of the Senate Higher Education Committee about this breaking news that UW System and UW-Platteville have announced that UW-Baraboo, the two-year college there connected to UW-Platteville, will be closing after May of this coming year.

Dale, one more question on this.

I want to move to one of their breaking news story or hot news story of the day.

On this campus thing, you've

You've been to the legislature.

You've seen the importance.

I know you understand the importance of higher education for rural counties.

But what do you make?

I want to go back to something you said earlier.

What do you make a president, Jay Rothman, never setting foot in Richland County and talking with local elected leaders or campus people?

I don't see any evidence that he did so at.

in Salk County for this bare boot campus.

I haven't found evidence he's done at any other of the two-year colleges that he's closed.

And even Democratic Governor Tony Evers, we never hear anything.

All we hear is this excuse of, well, the enrollment is low.

Well, 178 people at the Baraboo campus might be down, but it wasn't like it was 50-something at Richland, and the system never provided monies for a recruiter for these colleges.

Why isn't there more transparency on both the UW system part, on the Republicans in the Joint Finance Committee, and Governor Evers?

For many years, the system was engaged in enrollment management.

somebody decided they weren't going to do anymore.

And I assume it was since there wasn't enough support for the university from the state, they had to turn to more lucrative ways of getting the money from students, students that were from out of state.

And again, what that does to the students in this state overall is it means that they have less opportunities.

And it's giving to the point where there is any mystery why people are upset and angry about government and all its respects.

It's just hard to trust anybody.

They never carry through on their word.

They don't seem to be interested.

It's just a bunch of folks who...

I think they have all the answers and they don't need to listen to anybody.

People want a seat at the table.

They want an opportunity to discuss what's important to them and the issues that are important to them.

And they don't seem to get it.

Folks want to brush things under the rug.

They want to not provide, you know, the complete transparency.

And in the end, it leaves the public, the general public with a bad taste in their mouth.

And what it looks to me is,

of further evidence of bad leadership.

Dale Schultz, former Senate Majority Leader for Wisconsin on the phone with this.

I want to jump to get your comments on what other story it's been breaking over the last 24 to 40 hours.

The Capitol Times breaking the story on Department of Public Instruction here in Wisconsin headline, 200 teacher sexual misconduct grooming cases here in the state of Wisconsin shielded from the public.

And this is a lengthy story.

It's a disturbing story.

The gist of it is that over 200 cases of license, both teachers, aides, support staff, were investigated for sexual misconduct in this state and was never brought into the light of day.

The Capitol Times reporting found at least 44% of the Department of Public Instructions over 450 educated license investigations since 2018 involved sexual misconduct in grooming allegations.

Here's what's...

odd to me is that Superintendent Dr. Jill Underly declined requests for this interview with the Capitol Times saying that, quote, it would create a conflict of interest, unquote, since Underly oversees educator licenses.

That's according to her spokesperson, Chris Buscher.

Dale, it's a disturbing story, but just your general comments on this reporting by the Capitol Times and the reaction or nonreaction of Superintendent Underly.

Two minutes.

Well, I think that the Capital Times deserves everyone in this state's gratitude for their aggressive reporting and getting to the issues that have really concerned people these days with the Joseph Epstein thing in Washington, DC.

People have begun to believe that we are pedophiles everywhere.

Now, the facts have yet to come out and should come out on every single one of these cases.

Perhaps some are real...

groving type problems, others might just be blown out of proportion issues.

But every one of them deserves a thorough and transparent discovery process.

And it looks to me like here again in Madison, we've missed the opportunity to bring Republicans and Democrats together on something which is not partisan.

And to sit them down and say, let's sort this out.

Let's put in place some policies, procedures and laws to make sure that Wisconsin isn't in this position again.

You know, once upon a time, we were proud in this data of what people everywhere thought of our educational systems and schools.

And it just seems, you know, these two stories, you know, again, are just more

chinks in the armor that made us something that was special.

And that's too bad because we're better than that.

We deserve better than that.

And I hope that the governor will provide the leadership and the legislature will come together.

Dale Schultz up against

the clock.

Thank you very much.

I appreciate your time.

Come on back.

We'll discuss both these breaking news stories on the Todd Hall Ball Show on the Civic Media Already

Network.

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First, this breaking news courtesy of Channel3000.com, University of Wisconsin-Platteville.

will close the Baraboo Sock County campus effective May 22nd of next year.

Decision came after, quote, unquote, careful consideration and that student, staff, and faculty are supported throughout the transition.

Once again, UW System is blaming the closure on enrollment, saying there are only 178 students left at the

and we've heard this narrative for going on three years from when they first closed the Richland campus.

But what they don't want to talk about, Jay Rothman, president of the system, what they don't want to talk about, Tony Evers in the governor's office,

What most of the legislature doesn't want to talk about both Republicans and Democrats sands for state senator Kelder Royce Democrat here in Madison who has had the temerity and the courage and leadership to go out into the state of Wisconsin and meet with communities and meet with students and speak out about this former Democratic State Representative Katrina Shanklin of Steven's point did the same thing

But other than those folks all silent They announced these things on Friday.

Nobody has a comment.

Nobody has a press conference Jay Rothman doesn't visit these communities You don't see Tony Evers holding listening sessions in bearable on this and Meanwhile higher education the state is dying on the vine The Wisconsin idea right now in this state

looks a lot closer to the University of Wisconsin Badger football team.

Partner dead.

And what outrages me is they don't have the balls to go out and face the people of the state and tell them why they're doing it.

They say it's enrollment.

Give me a break because they don't fund the recruiters to get students there.

I know this for a fact.

There was a missing million dollars, allegedly, a missing million dollars in the Plathville Foundation fund after Dennis Shields left before Tammy Yovanovich took over, and nobody wants to talk about it.

And when I raise this to people, now one of them, Jeff Berant, who's no longer with President Rothman, when I raise this to their face, they look at me and say, how did you know about that?

Believe me, there is a lot more going on here that Wisconsinites, voters and taxpayers don't know about.

And all I'm asking for from Evers, from Jay Rothman, just be honest.

We can take it.

Just be honest, because the real people being hurt are the students and the people trying to go back, non-traditional students to get their finished degrees.

People of rural Wisconsin try to get a try to get a degree just make them their lives better help themselves Everybody wants to hide behind you know Friday evening Friday afternoon press dumps 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 Let's go quickly to Rick Rick.

You got about two minutes here.

Go ahead

Yeah, I was just remembering back when you and I were at Richland Center and We had international students there

Ever since they decided to pair these two-year campuses with larger universities, the recruiting and stuff has gone down at these

two-year

campuses.

They're not trying.

And Plackville especially, they came out at the beginning and said they did not want to recruit

for these two-year campuses.

Correct.

No, you're absolutely right Rick, and I appreciate you calling and thanks for your listenership And yeah, when we were going to when we were going to the two years these international programs I just went to a celebration of life for my friend Linda Genesis who ran the Central American scholarship program international continuing education program Vital vital necessities for these rural communities for everybody, but particularly for small communities

By the way, Chris and Madison on the text line listening to us on WMDX says Dale Schultz is correct.

Public education is only one example of Wisconsin's slide to mediocrity under the right-wing Republicans.

I was once proud of my state, not anymore.

And Chris, I don't disagree.

Yes, I agree.

The large part of this falls on the Republicans in the legislature, the Joint Finance Committee, for not properly funding these things.

But look, I'm being fair here.

You got it.

You got to assess some of the blame to Democrat the Democratic governor in in the governor's office in the East Wing Tony Evers He could have drawn a line in the sand on this last budget deal for that he chose not to look that's his choice All I'm asking for governor Evers is just had the gum should to be honest with us Just come out and say look, I don't think we should have two year colleges anymore They've outlived their purpose.

We're closing them all because that's where this is headed by the way

There will be no two-year colleges left at the end of this culling.

Connected to the UW system.

They got rid of the map.

Do you realize this?

The official map of the UW system used to have the 13, four years and 13, two years.

They redid the logo, changed the colors, changed the name, and they eliminated all of the two years off the map.

You don't think that was a sign?

Come on back after this.

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A little out of voice today.

I'll explain in just a little bit.

Went to the doctor right before the show.

It's one of these Todd stories.

We'll get into that a little bit.

First, want to finish up these more serious things.

Talking about the news, breaking this afternoon, the University of Wisconsin, Platteville, Baraboo.

at Sauk County campus.

If you're not familiar, Sauk County is right below Wisconsin Dells.

Most people know where Wisconsin Dells is at, Baraboo, just south of that.

Gonna close the campus at Baraboo after the spring 2026 semester.

178 students enrolled right now.

And UW System says that is why they're closing.

They call it low enrollment.

Which, by the way, as someone knows a little bit about this, as my maternal grandmother, Marge Wallace, was the first woman dean of a campus in Wisconsin at UW Richland and helped found the two-year campuses, one of the concepts was a smaller class size.

More specialized, okay, well, maybe they say the average class size at Baraboo is 14.

When I went to UW Richland, it was probably 25-ish, somewhere between 20 and 25-ish.

Some classes had maybe 35.

My problem with this is they're not being honest, and they haven't been for three years since they closed the first one at Richland County.

Because neither Jay Rothman, the president of the system, Tony Evers, or people from their administration will go on the, well, I guess,

Uh, uh, Rothman sent one of his, uh, people out to Richland County.

But these guys as decision makers, as the heads, the executive will not meet with their constituents, will not meet with taxpayers and explain what's really going on.

And they don't fund recruiters to get kids to these schools like they did when I was going there.

So if you're not funding recruiters, if you're, if you're the Republican legislature and you're not putting the money in there.

Just be honest about it.

Again, where's Tony Evers' statement today calling Jay Rothman out?

Haven't seen one.

Don't think we will.

By my count, we're on two-year school number seven being closed.

Have a town hall.

Go online.

I mean, have an online hall.

and have Republicans and legislative leaders sit down and explain their plan for the University of Wisconsin system.

I think we're entitled at least to that.

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Gene, listening on WC... Try that again, Todd.

It's been one of

those days.

I

apologize, Gene.

WCFW, the tap.

Be beautiful.

Eau Claire.

Gene, thanks for holding.

Go ahead.

Hey, you don't have to do that every time.

I love your passion.

You're concerned and and we're all blessed to have you on the air.

I want you to know that, but I have to say That's a good thing really is and people need to be aware of this because it's happening in every single area of our lives.

Our state mean with physicians.

It's happening with hospitals.

It's happening with schools

it's happening with businesses it's happening everywhere and i don't know where a person just picks unfortunately where they can go when when we've got people that uh... they're serving in our state where scotty walker came in and started cutting everything and doing exactly what trump's doing in our federal government and we got these republicans who will not open the purse strings

and help the people and do things for the people, which is really insulting and it's infuriating.

So, you know, you can pick something from every avenue of our lives, but we all need to fight back by protesting, by calling these people, and also by, you know, having a voice heard and thinking strategies and interviews of people that are running and find something that's really gonna stand out there and they're gonna fight.

Because I think there's a lot of people that are really getting pooped out from fighting the non-stop battles.

And also, I want to say one more thing about sexual abuse.

Very, very difficult thing to deal with, however.

The DPI story.

It's a different story, but go ahead.

Yes, yes.

And I worked with kids who were sexually abusive.

And I worked in a school system, OK?

But the thing of it is, is that, you know, I don't know how they do their background checks now.

But they used to do really good background checks.

They used to have a lot of people applying for the schools.

Now there's all kinds of openings in the schools.

So we need to get back to getting qualified people and good people there.

And also, we need to give this some time here because they cannot impact teachers who have not committed these crimes to get their name out there.

And all of a sudden,

they won't be able to teach ever again if they did not do it.

So it's really, it's a scary thing though, because this is alarming.

Let me

ask you quickly because you've worked in education and you're very astute, you pay attention to these things.

Keep me honest, do you think it is irrational or asking too much that our elected officials on both sides give us the truth about these campus closures?

Because I think what's interesting about this

is you don't hear, I don't hear anything from either side.

This isn't, you know, the Democrats going after Robin Vos, the Republicans to your campus closures, or vice versa.

They're both silent and they're not criticizing each other, which to me seems very, very odd in these political times.

Well, let me tell you something.

If I had a list of all the things that I have very strong concerns about, you know, I mean, where do you choose?

And how big of a population do you choose?

And I feel really bad because they need help there.

And as soon as we get good people in our government, maybe this...

We'll be able to rebuild from this, but we're blessed to have you on

the

air.

We're blessed to have you as a listener.

Thanks, Gene, have a great weekend.

Take care of yourself.

Jean and Eau Claire WCFW the tap 855-752-4842-855-752-4842.

John listening in in beautiful Janesville, Wisconsin on WAUK says this campus closure.

situation was all started with Ray Cross, i.e.

Double Cross.

I like that.

This was their plan to make the four-year take the blame for not funding the UW system.

Thanks, John.

I appreciate your listenership.

John is not wrong about that.

We've talked about this on the show before.

Ray Cross, who was the chancellor of the two-year colleges, the last one before the emergency, and then he became president, and there was a thoughtful plan

how to keep our two-year campuses, adapt them to changing times by, I guess, the final chancellor, Kathy Sandin, and Ray Cross, then as president, shelved that, didn't let it see the light of day, and went to the border regions in the four years and said, all right, here's the deal, you're gonna get

These two your campuses, you're going to get these two.

You don't have a choice.

And he literally, from people in the room, Ray Cross as president of the UW system told the four year chancellors, quote, you're either going to sink or swim unquote.

That was the plan by Ray Cross.

And, and clearly they're sinking.

And then this, as the, as John points out, predominantly Republicans, the legislature underfunded.

the UW system.

And this is where it gets weird.

Tony Evers gets elected governor.

Most governors appoint the border regions, their staggered terms.

And so by this time now, Tony Evers had a majority of Democratic appointed border regions.

So the governor essentially gets to make the call at that point, who the assistant president is.

And they allow Jay Rothman, former head of Folia Lardner, huge law firm, never had any experience in education, mind you.

But the head of a law firm, you know what heads of major law firms their main job is?

Cut.

Bottom line.

Dollars.

No emotion.

And that's exactly what they got in Jay Rothman.

So it seems like a very odd and disturbing set of bedfellows politically in this case when it comes to the closing of the two-year schools because you don't hear Democrats.

I mean, where is the liberal Democrats today?

Where are their press statements attacking Jay Rothman?

I mean, they're smart people.

They don't miss opportunity.

There's been six closures and now today seven.

Other than Kelder Royce and Katrina Shanklin, crickets.

Anyway, we'll keep following this story.

Obviously, I'm passionate about it.

We mentioned this earlier.

If you did not hear J. Matt Nair and Greg Bach and Dan Shea from this morning on Matt Nair on air, I encourage you to go back and listen to the podcast.

You can find it at civicmedia.us.

They had an informative and...

Good in this case.

I guess you'd say discussion on this capital time story Reporting by Danielle Declos at the capital times came out a couple days ago here and it details a major problem at the Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction and Dr. Jill Underly 200 teachers

of sexual misconduct cases, grooming cases were shielded from the public.

And what's particularly disturbing to me, well, first and foremost, the alleged victims here, but secondarily, the fact that the newly elected Department of Public Instruction head, Jill Underly, will not talk about this.

Refused to talk to the Capitol Times.

Her spokesperson,

Blaming it on Republicans saying that well, you know, we had a line item in the joint finance budget for 600,000 that would have looked at more of these types of things and addressed it But Republicans voted it down fine I'm playing the Republicans for that But why in the heck this is where Democrats are so bad at messaging Because Republicans would have had in their satchels

You know a press or a handout if the joint finance would have voted that down and said, okay Here's the facts.

This is why Robin boss the Republicans and Howard Markline are not keeping our kids safe because they just cut $600,000 that would have kept our kids safe But we never heard that from underly or anybody else at DPI until now

And if it got voted down by the Joint Finance Committee, why the heck wasn't Jill Underly and DPI immediately calling for a separate bill?

Just like the Knowles-Nelson Stewardship Fund people, that didn't get through Joint Finance, but they've launched a public campaign working bipartisanly in the legislature right now on two different bills to fund the Knowles-Nelson Stewardship Fund.

Underly on this, crickets.

I'm gonna tell you right now, Dr. Jill Underly will not survive this.

That is my prediction.

Because how can you, if you're somebody in the Wisconsin Public Education Network, or if you're somebody in WEAC, the largest teachers unit in the state, how can you invite Jill Underly to your conventions and events until she answers these things?

You can't!

I think she'll be forced to resign, and in my understanding of Wisconsin law, Governor Evers will appoint a new superintendent.

because you can't justify this.

And it's a very graphic and very heartbreaking article from the Cap Times.

And yes, there may be, this is important.

There may be some people that were falsely accused.

and they should have, and in many cases, and by the way, the cases in this Cap Time story, they're over.

We'll come back, we'll explain it more, because this is really important.

Stay with us at the Todd Albel show on the Civic Media Ready Network.

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Lots to get to in a short time to get there.

Talking about the story of the Capitol Times.

A couple of days ago, again, if you didn't hear, go back and listen to Matt Nair on air this morning on civicmedia.us.

Greg Bach along Jane Matt Nair and our political editor, Dan Schaefer, had a thorough discussion on this capital time story or go to the cap times and read it yourself.

Danielle DeClos, pardon me.

A year long investigation into the Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction.

Want to be clear?

These were allegations against over 200 teachers educators aides administrators people in different school districts across the Wisconsin that had misconduct slash grooming cases that were shielded from the public So very graphic disturbing details in this my understanding and reading this article is that these are individuals who had allegations in some cases graphic

and Wisconsin law provides one of the things in there that if you give up your educated, if you give up your license, you don't have to basically be investigated any further.

And so those, some individuals did that.

And the problem is, or the concern is, that these individuals are on a list at DPI and it was not shared.

And when they gave up their license, it doesn't say why.

So theoretically, they could be hired somewhere else.

And there's a database listed, Department of Public Instruction, they've been sitting on and essentially forced the Capitol Times to issue a Freedom of Information Act request to get this.

In other words, try to stop the press from getting this information.

Because the only reason you file a information request, because you ask is, hey, can I get this?

No, not unless you file a request.

And so that's very disturbing.

And Dr. Jill Underly, no comment.

And they're trying to blame it on the Republicans saying, well, they were underfunded.

Fine.

But why didn't they immediately call for a bipartisan bill to fund this?

Why didn't it take a freedom of information request to find this information out?

And let me be clear about this.

Republicans are already using this to go after

all of public education.

This is the problems with it and politicize this.

And let me also be clear, as someone who spends a lot of time with public educators and goes to a lot of these forums, there are teachers right now, and this is a real story, not anybody I know personally, but a teacher educator saw a cell phone in the back of a student's pants, like in their jeans or whatever, and in that school,

You're not supposed to have your cell phone in the classroom.

The teachers say, hey, I see your cell phone.

Please take it back to your locker.

The father of that kid called the district the next day and said, why is that teacher looking at my kid's ass?

That's what we're at on that side of it.

So.

All that now you've got this story by by the cap times and and Jill underly only making everything worse by not just being truthful about up front I don't see how she politically survives a 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 Rick if you can do it quickly, please Rick in walkie-saw on WA UK go ahead

Okay frontline has a program about paradise California that burnt down 40,000 homes and a bunch of deaths and before it happened and

during and after it happened and all of the groups involved departments of government different groups of the media it started on campfire road and the public thought it started by a campfire it started by the electrical towers and they couldn't get a fire truck to it when it was very little now all of these groups

explain all their reasons through this program, and it's all pointing fingers in a circle.

It's every group, and then eventually the groups unite that

it's

nobody's fault.

So your point is that

these stories in Wisconsin, we have to have more transparency.

No, that's a big part of it.

Now this program was made like four years later, so they have all kinds of victims involved, interviews, and it's very well done.

And this is how multiple groups program and then eventually they cleanse themselves of their

part.

Yep.

All as a group.

Appreciate the call, Rick.

Thank you very much.

Rick and Waukesha on the AUK.

Yes.

It doesn't matter whether it's in California or Wisconsin.

You need transparency, whether that's the UW system, whether that's Department of Public Instruction.

You need transparency.

Linda on the text line in Middleton, listening on to be MDX here in Madison, says she was a charter member of the class of the charter class.

of Boo You, in other words, UW-Baraboo, said, so very sad, I met my husband there.

It is disgusting, whatever happened to the Wisconsin idea.

Linda and Middleton, thanks.

I appreciate that.

On our leading story today of the UW-Baraboo campus closing in this announcement here this afternoon.

Lots to get to, obviously not gonna have, we'll work this in, try to before the end of the show.

The No Kings rally this weekend.

Be careful out there if you're going and be prepared if you're not, if you're watching for lots of disinformation.

I've got stories here about misinformation in Chicago, stories of misinformation in Oregon, where the federal government has been proven now, has manipulated video to try to justify use of force.

So be careful what you see and hear this weekend from trusted news sources or otherwise.

Let this play out.

Because there's gonna be a lot of disinformation.

I would say stay the heck off of social media this weekend as well.

Look, I have stacks of news.

We could do four hours today.

But we won't.

We'll come back after news, weather, and sports, and lighten it up a bit.

We'll talk about the Green Bay Packers and Pino Rapides along as well.

Stay with us.

It's the All-Ball Show for a Friday across Wisconsin on the Civic Media.

Ready Network.

From the Civic Media World Headquarters in Madison, Wisconsin, it's the Todd Alba Show.

And now, pursuing truth wherever it may lead, here's your host, Todd

Alba.

Good afternoon, everybody.

Title of all along, Mr. Aaron Zomers, our producer and engineer.

Welcome into a TGIF Friday edition, October 20th.

October 17th, 2025.

Here, welcome to hour number two of the big broadcast, six minutes past the hour of three o'clock from the home studios at the intersection of State and Fairchild and Downtown Madison.

Welcome in, everybody.

Glad to have you along.

Xamarinz, let's take a quick look out there on the Sam Davison Street Cam, outside a beautiful fall afternoon.

Hazy Sky is going to overcast all of a sudden poking through there, but warmer.

warmer than I thought.

So, uh, uh, you know, or, uh, Ohio State, get it right yet, are in town.

And we don't have time to do a segment on this today with the breaking news.

Uh, I was the only question for me with Ohio State number one team in the country being in town to take on the Badgers.

Will Ohio State score 50, five, zero?

Well, they score 50, but what's the over under?

Do you take the over or the under at 50?

Uh, I take over.

I take over too.

Uh, I'm not wishing it, but I'm just saying it's not, not going to be pretty.

I'm, I'm, I'm afraid here at Camp Randall, but we'll have the game for you on several of our stations across the Civic Media Radio Network on WRCE, WLAK and AMRI, RCE of course, Richelon Center, FHR in Wisconsin Rapids, and, uh, on WR, WRPN in Rippon.

Kickoff time is right around 2 30 this afternoon on several of our Badger radio networks, of course the Brewers Hope still Springs eternal must win tonight crew down Oh to three Or three to oh wish everyone look at it out at Chavez ravine Dodger is gonna try to get the wind and the sweep out there in California

So that one starts a little bit later on the seven o'clock ish.

Let me see if we check my facts here on the Friday game 705 is the first pitch local time here Wisconsin pregame show at 738 on our brewers Radio network stations as well quickly top story this afternoon from our newsroom University was this comes from channel 3000.com the CBS affiliate in Madison University Wisconsin Plattville

will be ceasing operations at its Baraboo-Saw County campus effective May 22nd of next year.

The decision came after a quote-unquote careful consideration and that student staff and faculty are supported throughout this transition.

Again, UW-Platteville Baraboo closed.

After the end of next year, we'll continue to follow this into next week, of course.

But right now at nine minutes past the hour of three o'clock, lighten it up just a bit.

I got my, I did a uniform change, a costume change during the break.

I put my Green Bay pathing his, unlike, unlike the Badgers this weekend, I feel good about the pack.

Joining us via his car.

Driving throughout Wisconsin, one of the stars and producers of the great new film, No Packers, No Life.

Once again, here is Ty Morse.

Ty, how are you?

Great, Todd.

happy to be here again.

We are absolutely happy to be here.

Zawmerz and I last saw you at the world premiere of No Packers, No Life at the Majestic Theater, one of the great Marcus Theaters in Waukesha.

And not that our two cents means a whole lot, but let me tell you, I was blown away by it.

I loved it.

And I told Craig yesterday, Craig Benzine, the director, that I think for me, two things.

A,

Whichever one of the Japanese cheer team was in the car at night driving by Lambo right after he'd gotten to Green Bay, and he looks out

and says, I

want to live here.

And it just, I don't know why, but it just, I was like, I do live here and I don't think that I look at it through the lens that it should.

And to hear him say that, it just got to me.

Yeah, it's beautiful.

I mean and there was so much of that as they came it was just like this wonder amazement magic for them and I think it helps us Through that lens, you know kind of rediscover, you know what how lucky we are where we live as Wisconsinites, you know

just remind people that have not heard this before what the heck's the matter with you but very quickly uh the synopsis that tai goes to japan meets these uh uh packer fans his cheer team at an intersection and ends up discovering this whole new world in japan and then you and your buddies bring what about 30 of these folks from japan to green bay to the mecca of football to lambo field and

And it's just enormously moving.

One of the things that I haven't asked you yet, Tai, is were you there specifically that time for a separate business?

Or what's your connection with Japan beyond the film?

Yeah, I was there for business.

I'm there often for business.

We manufacture there.

We sell products into the Japanese market I have a joint venture there.

Suzuki is in the film is actually one of my business partners So we do a lot in the health and beauty space and that's why I was there and but it was actually a day off for us It was

what we call the Hanami, where you go and look at the cherry blossoms.

You have some drinks.

I brought a guitar.

We're playing music.

We're drinking some whiskey and soda.

And we wander down the street to go do some karaoke, go sing some Bon Jovi.

And that's where I found these guys.

So it was a business trip, but day off.

And the day off rolled into seven years of making this documentary.

Is that how life happens?

Sometimes the least expected moments, right?

Look, the film is fantastic.

It's beautiful to look at.

It's so meaningful to be able to look at something that we love here in Wisconsin, the Green Bay Packers, and look at it through this lens of this Japanese cheer team, these folks coming here the first time.

I know you had an event last night in Mequon with Mason Crosby, who's in the film incidentally.

That's a great, I'm not going to spoil that, but there's a great moment with Mason there as well that I really liked.

But you have an event.

I cried last night again too, Todd.

I cried last night again.

It's so cool.

It's so cool.

It's so cool Mason's such a great dude in that moment I mean that's why people have to get to the theater to see it They're gonna cry when they see that

I agree with that But you know that last night mekwan you're going to an event tonight in Green Bay and an event tomorrow in Madison here Tell us about these events and how people can participate

Yeah, there's special screening tonight in Green Bay

Only a few tickets left for that and only a few tickets tomorrow night in Madison.

It will feature the film and then Q&A at the end with myself and the director, Craig Benzine.

It's going to be a good time.

It just, you know, people should throw on their packer gear, grab a beer and just come sit and enjoy the ride.

Absolutely.

Now, those few tickets that are left, you can go to nopackersnolife.com.

N-O-packersnolife.com.

Had a couple of people like, is it K-N-O?

N-O, nopackersnolife.com.

And it could also, and then the show opens up today, right across many theaters in Southeast Wisconsin, Green Bay, Madison, La Crosse.

statewide, statewide today,

yeah.

statewide, and also, I love this.

Trolling Bears fans in Gurney, Illinois, and those tickets can be found at Marcus Theaters.

Theaters spelt T-H-E-A-T-R-E-S dot com.

MarcusTheaters.com.

Like you said, Ty, it's experiencing this with other people that I think really makes it special.

Yeah, I think that's what it's about.

It's about getting into the theater.

I mean, as Wisconsinites...

celebrating our heritage, who we are, but also just seeing the passion of these people that have come all the way from the other side of the world to experience our world.

And sitting in the theater with other Wisconsinites experiencing, I mean, it's one of the best times I've ever had in my life.

There's like, it's so much laughing, some crying, but it's just, it's such a blast.

So I just recommend the best way to see this is to get to a Marcus Theater and just hang out.

Yeah, I totally agree.

We saw for those out there that saw last year that just a bit outside the Brewer's movie, you know what we mean?

Because when people are cheering together, yelling together, you cannot get that when you're sitting at home alone, you know, which is most of Todd's life.

But get out and

enjoy it with

people.

Get out to Zomers.

Yeah, there's so

much camaraderie.

I mean, everybody's laughing in the theater.

We just did it last night.

Right.

Zomers.

Yeah, especially because it's a movie about community and it portrays it so well and watching it with everybody really brings you into that and reminds us that we are all, you know, wearing green and gold.

We're all Wisconsin.

Yeah, absolutely.

It's a unifying film and the other part of it was just unexpected for me, Ty, and to hear folks speaking in their native language with the subtitles

I don't know, it's, I don't know why I thought there would be more English in that part of it, maybe because I'm Americanized, but really what it reminded me of a lot was the first time I saw Dancers and Wolves, and whatever people think about Kevin Costner, he was very deliberate in making sure that the native language was on spoken and English subtitles, and to hear that authenticity on the Japanese side, that really meant something to me.

Yeah, I think it's their native language and they're the best way that they can passionately speak about it is in their native language.

But it's wonderful hearing them speak in Japanese but then seeing the subtitles and there's so many great moments that I think the subtitles work so well because they're so eloquently talking about things and you get to see it right there on screen.

It's beautiful.

The other part about it was some of your closest friends and family and

was your wife, your buddy's wife, who was like, okay, I'm bringing three people over.

And then it kind of grew.

And it's just

like-

That was my buddy's wife.

Yeah.

And it's just like- That was hilarious.

Okay, we're gonna roll with this.

I mean,

that was great.

Yeah, it started as three, yeah, then it was almost 30.

And they all rolled with it.

And, you know, I heard somebody else describe it as like, it sounded like a foreign exchange program, putting them in homes and homestays and- Right?

Right.

Yeah.

But I also, but I also think it like Wisconsinites were really proud.

But I also think that the movie, whether or not you even like football, there's just a really beautiful human element of it.

It's people connecting around, you know, any type of passion and then building these deep relationships.

And I think that's why the film can speak to more than just Packer fans or people from Wisconsin.

And that's why I'm hoping more people come out and see it.

That's a great point because.

There's there's not a lot of quote unquote football footage in this.

It really is focused more on the human element of the movie and these relationships to how they grow.

And, you know, people come from another country is like, what are we getting into here?

And the amount of trust, right?

The trust from the Japanese cheer team and the trust from your friends and family to welcome them in.

And it's all bound together by just happens to be this team of green gold.

Yeah, and you know for them that trust that was a huge leap from a Japanese perspective the details were so vague I mean they say that in the movie they plan so much if you if you send details a week before

Uh, you're getting together with people that is like last minute for them.

So the fact that we didn't have an itinerary for them and they were getting on an, uh, an airplane and just arriving, they really had to just offer themselves up to fate.

But as they've all said at this point, um, it was the best decision they've ever made.

So

I think it's great.

Uh, I really hope people get out and see it again.

If you want to join tie and, uh, Craig at green Bay tonight, go to no packers, no life.com, a handful of tickets left for the, uh, event.

tonight to meet the director and producer and star of the film.

And then also here in Madison tomorrow at the High Point Cinema, where the great Marcus Theaters, also at nopackersnolife.com.

And you can buy your tickets for the statewide release and also in Gurney, Illinois at Marcus Theaters.

Again, MarcusTheaters.com.

Time Wars, thank you very much.

Safe travels up to Green Bay tonight.

Thank you very much for all of your association with us and allowing us to be there at that world premiere.

I hope the film does smash it.

Everybody should see it.

It is Quintet Central, Wisconsin.

Thanks, Todd.

You guys have been so awesome.

Really

appreciate your support.

It's meant a lot to us.

Well, the honor's been ours.

And safe travels up to Green Bay.

And as they say, go pack, go.

Go pack, go.

Take care, guys.

All right.

See you later.

Bye-bye.

Time for us, everybody.

Stay tuned.

More on the other side.

Take your phone calls.

And more is the Toddleball Show on the Civic Media Ready Network.

I'll show on the civic media ready to work 22 now past the hour of three o'clock on a Friday, October 17th 2025.

I believe I just this just hit me by the way.

I believe it's our friend and ongoing contributor Jeff Perry, Jerry Perry's birthday today.

Really?

I forgot.

I kept thinking the 17th of October.

What is the 17th of October?

And I believe it's Jeff Perry's birthday today.

Well, big if true.

Big if true.

Happy birthday, Jeffrey.

Over there on WVMO.

WVMO.

Thank you.

There's something wrong with me.

I'll describe it later.

All right, very quickly, let's go to the phone lines, talk a little bit more about this great new film, No Packers, No Life.

Still a few tickets for the screening tonight in Green Bay.

Your chance to see the, listen to the filmmakers.

Craig Benzing, director and Time Morris producer, Star.

You can find those tickets at nopackersnolife.com.

Also screening tomorrow at High Point Cinema here in Madison, nopackersnolife.com.

Anna!

In La Crosse, listening in at the

bell.

Rita in La Crosse, you mixed the two.

Oh, I do that.

I do that frequently.

So I have a Rita in La Crosse.

I apologize.

Anna's next, Rita in La Crosse, tuning in at our great station up there.

Rita, you saw the film?

We just

left the theater.

We brought our grandson with us.

Steve and I did.

And I loved it.

I loved it.

I heard about it on your radio station because

We listen all the time.

Well,

thank

you.

It was so good.

It was good.

Yeah.

Did your heart good to see that?

Yeah.

The camaraderie between the Japanese people and they all loved the Packers.

It was a great movie.

Everybody loved it in the movie where we were.

All we need is love, boy.

That's amazing.

And tomorrow we're going to go to the No Kings parade.

Oh, great.

March.

March, whatever it is.

We're going to be marching.

Good for you guys.

I really enjoy your station and thanks for telling us about that.

I think we're probably going to go back and see it again.

That's how much we liked it.

Well, thank you for your listenership, Rita.

You guys, it means the world to us up there and beautiful lacrosse.

And you guys have a great weekend.

I think you're right.

I mean, Zommer's and I saw just a bit outside several times and you see something new every time, right?

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, we went to see that too after you guys told us about

it Well, we try to pass along good information.

Well, you guys have a great weekend.

All right.

Thank you very much for listening to us up there WLCX the Eagle up on the cross on 1490 a.m WLCX now Let's go to Anna here on WM DX in Madison Anna.

Thanks for calling you saw the movie as well

I too just thought this afternoon

at the palace in some prairie and loved it.

There were several times where I got teary eyed.

And especially when one of them met Mason Crosby in person.

Yeah.

That's amazing, isn't it?

Cheered up.

And when they were with their Super Bowl rings, getting pitchers.

Yeah.

It's really

cool.

And when they first.

Yeah, and when they first got to Green Bay and at night, they took them to see, you know, Lambeau Field and how they got so excited.

Yeah, it's a special film, Anna.

I'm so glad you saw it.

Thank you for going and seeing it.

And thank you for taking the time to call in and tell us about it.

And thanks for listening to us on WMDX.

It really means a lot.

I appreciate your listenership,

Anna.

I listened to you for a long time.

You have a great show.

Well, thank you It's very kind of you and you have a great weekend out there at some prairie.

All right

Okay, you too.

All right.

Thank you.

That's Anna on WMDX.

Well, there you go, Zomers.

Two, I hope that Tice was still listening.

Two unsolicited viewers.

Three, actually, I guess total.

And there you go.

People going out and seeing the film in the wild and the reviews are in.

And they're right.

That's just what it's like.

It's such pure Wisconsin sports joy from all around the world.

It's a beautiful movie.

Yeah.

It really, really is.

All right.

It's 27 minutes now past the hour of three o'clock.

So what do we do?

We don't really have time for what's worse.

Yeah.

How about just the fun fact?

All

right.

Very time once again for our new segment, Wisconsin Fun Fact.

Well, time once again for another Wisconsin Fun Fact.

Alright, that's the official state ballot, by the way.

Time for another Wisconsin Fun Fact.

It's a brand new segment.

We're still working on it, you understand.

It probably should have been at the top of the hour, but we had a lot of other things we had to do.

So here now, we're gonna give you one of these every day.

Wisconsin Fun Fact for October 17th.

On October 17th, in 1908, the catastrophic Pestigal Fire

Reignited again, which reminds me of a 2016 presidential political plays that reignited again this year because Democrats couldn't put a campfire out right now.

You see the correlation, you know, the Pestigal fire reignited and now you got Trump reigniting and the Democrats couldn't put him out, couldn't put the campfire out.

What a

time.

You can't buy loyalty like that.

Sorry, I was trying to find a good spot in the song to bring in.

All right, this might be a short-lived segment.

I don't know.

We'll see.

We'll see.

Anyway, that needs to be workshopped a little bit, but that was another edition of Wisconsin Fun Fact.

All right, we're gonna come back.

It's been much too long since we've talked to our friend Peter Rapine from Epom's World.

But a heavy news week, lots going on.

Gonna be a heavy weekend.

Lots going on.

We need to just, we need to feel, need to laugh a little bit, folks.

Need to laugh.

Another one with that.

So we're gonna come back and I will tell you the quick version.

I went to the doctor right before the show.

Because my glands were swollen.

My, what do you call it?

Underneath your chin here.

You're, you know, there's a word for it.

I'll find it.

I'll explain what happened and why this could only happen to me on the other side and we'll talk.

We can review a humorous edition with Peter A. Pine.

Don't go anywhere.

It's the all ball edition for a Friday.

Thank goodness on the Civic Media Radio Point.

Have an egg roll.

Mr. Goldstone.

Have a napkin.

Have a chopstick.

Have a chair.

Have a spare rib.

Mr. Goldstone.

Any spare rib that I can spare, I'll be glad to share.

Welcome back to the Tahleball Show on the Civic Media Radio Network.

35 minutes now past the hour of three o'clock.

Little gypsy music.

I will tell you why that's important.

But first, we welcome in our friend, our ongoing contributor, the one, the only international man of mystery and comedy, Peter Rapine.

How are you, Peter?

I'm doing great, Todd.

It's been a while.

It's been

much too long.

I missed you, too.

He is the managing editor of E-Bombs World.

And we're going to get into a humorous look at the Week of Review in just a moment.

But Peter, it turns out we haven't told each other these stories, but apparently we both have doctor stories.

So I told.

at the top, we had some serious news we had to take care of.

I am feeling the best this week.

My, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are

the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are

the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are the, what are

He says, I think it's a salivary gland stone.

A

salivary

gland stone.

Peter, I already have kidney stones.

Now I have salivary gland stones.

I have

stones in my kidneys and stones in my neck and my salivary glands.

I don't even have time to get stoned.

I mean, please.

And I certainly don't have gold stones.

So I said to him, I said,

What causes salivary gland stones?

And he looks at me quizzically and he says, boy, bad luck.

And a full-bird MD tells me the cause of my salivary stones are bad luck.

And I said, well, what can I do for medication?

No, he goes, you know what I recommend?

He goes,

Get some lemon heads and suck on those.

So this is my medication.

Lemon head ropes from CVS.

I haven't

even tried these.

It's actually not too bad.

Have you had those before?

I'm not a big... No, but as far as treatments go, just suck on some candy and it is.

Right?

This is real.

This is real.

He goes, I'm going to take a culture.

Just make sure you don't like strep throat or something.

Two big Q-tips.

He takes him out.

He goes, wow, that's really impressive.

You don't have much of a gag reflex.

Oh my gosh.

I wanted to say,

well, I

guess practice makes perfect,

but you know.

So Peter, how have you been feeling?

I've been good.

Honestly, I walked by a city MD the other day and I saw a sign for the flu shots.

Oh yeah.

So I'm feeling good, but I think I'm going to get ahead of the cold season, get my flu shot, maybe get a booster and make sure I don't get sick this winter because I never got one.

I always get sick for like two weeks and it sucks.

So hopefully this year I get ahead.

Well, that's good.

So

did you go to the doctor then or what?

What's the?

No, I haven't done it yet.

It was just.

I thought I had it.

So you haven't

gotten the flu shot.

Yeah, I haven't gotten the flu shot yet, but it's on my list.

So you

you

anticipate that you will get a flu shot.

Yeah.

But yeah, that's half that's half of this battle.

Peter is is just saying, OK, I'm going to do it this year.

Exactly.

Yeah, last year I didn't do it and I I was sick of Halloween and.

Halloween's one of my favorite holidays, so I don't want to miss out.

Really?

Are you a part of your Halloween, or do you?

Yeah, I love to put on a good costume.

I love to go out and dance, and Halloween's kind of the best.

It's the best party holiday there is, I think.

Yeah, it's a good time to have by all.

But funny that you have a doctor's tour, because I also have a really good doctor headline for

us.

A headline?

All right, here we go.

Here's why he's here every other week.

You can find all these at ebombsworld.com.

Real headlines of real people, Peter.

Yes.

Uh, headline reads, brain surgeon arrested after letting her 12 year old daughter drill into a patient's skull.

A brain surgeon arrested after letting her daughter drill into a patient's skull.

Do

tell.

Which this doctor is clearly winning as a parent, but they are not winning as a medical practitioner.

The accusation is that a neurosurgeon in Austria allowed their daughter to man the drill during surgery on a patient, which I guess you're not supposed to do.

That breaks all the medical codes, all the medical do's and don'ts.

But imagine how much fun that 12-year-old had going into work with her mom and then getting to meet her mom.

Take your

daughter to

work then.

Yeah, and borehole in some poor guy's skull.

Wow.

Yeah, so the doctor was fired.

I'm not sure.

So the doctor was

fired.

Yeah, and arrested.

And arrested.

So luckily your doctor, you know, wasn't that bad?

No, no,

no, the doctor was not

drilling into my skull.

He was very, very nice.

Very nice.

He introduced, he took a lot of time, asked me questions.

So, you know, all that's, all that's really good.

That's just that.

Yeah, I have I have stones in my salivary glands.

All right, Peter.

All right, Peter Rapine.

Next

headline.

This comes to us from the world of politics.

All right.

headline reads New York.

Count New York County is trying to elect a candidate who disappeared at sea.

Trying to find a candidate disappeared at sea.

Do you tell?

No.

New York County, they're trying to elect a candidate.

I don't know what's happening because I don't have the headlines in front of me this week.

So I'm just going off of what you said, which is fine.

But go ahead.

It's fine.

It's fine.

I just I thought I was trying to do it by memory.

They have been sent to you.

It's armor sent to me.

I've got kidney stones.

I've got salivary stones.

It's totally.

So yeah, 29 year old named Petros.

I think I'm saying this right.

Right.

comedas went out for a swim in the ocean in the springtime and sadly never returned.

The only thing is is that this guy is on the ballot for a upcoming election.

However, since he is still technically missing and not deceased, he can't be taken off the ballot.

So the New York County is hoping that as the Democrat running under

on their ticket that people still vote for him, which allows them to hold a special election afterwards.

That's fascinating.

So a dead

guy could actually get elected.

Yeah, technically not dead yet, but missing.

But you would assume that if he's been, you know, lost in sea for months now, the likelihood that he is live is.

It could

be like that Tom Hanks

film of Wilson.

What if

he comes back and he's

like, I got elected.

Yeah, he's like, I won.

Great.

I've also been out in the Atlantic for months.

All right.

Now, I have, I have, for some reason now my email is working and I have the headline.

So please, Peter, again, all these headlines at epombsworld.com.

Peter Rapine next headline.

So this next one is an investigation into raising canes.

Yeah.

The chicken restaurant.

The chicken place.

It's big with the kids.

Yeah, I seem their ads everywhere.

The chicken supposed to be pretty good.

I've never had it, but I assume it's good.

I'm a fan.

But a a so some context, a photo of a bucket of chicken went viral on Twitter this week.

And the

claim is that raising canes has throw away chicken tenders that if you ask politely, they will just give you.

And these chicken tenders are ones that might have been ugly, might have been, you know, not

up to their standard to serve customers.

So we did a little investigation and the headline reads, does raising canes have a weird chicken bucket?

Does raising canes have weird chicken

buckets?

Have a weird chicken bucket.

This is great.