
From the Civic Media World Headquarters in Madison, Wisconsin, it's the Todd Alba Show.
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Good afternoon, everybody.
Ta-da!
Along with Mr. Aaron Zommers, our producer and engineer, it is six minutes past the hour of two o'clock on this Tuesday, September 9th, 2025.
It's a great day to be a Wisconsinite.
Welcome in, everybody, to World Headquarters of Civic Media in downtown Madison, looking out on State Street right now.
We'll call it mostly sunny skies, some high clouds right now, but beautiful fall day.
Gonna be just...
right on schedule in terms of temperature and sun this week, maybe a little bit of clouds and rain Friday or Saturday.
But wow, it is just perfect fall weather, in my opinion right now.
Big show today, Zomers.
Can't wait.
How was your evening last night?
It was nice.
I did
not a lot, and I'm OK with it.
Chilled
out.
Yeah, chilled out a little bit.
Yeah, big show today.
Really looking forward to it in hour number two.
And if you're watching on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter,
And the like.
And if you're not, why the heck aren't you?
I'm just kidding.
But if you're looking at the visuals today, we have the set dressed up in Brewer's Gears.
I'm Gears gear.
I'm in my, uh, my Brewer polo shirt today.
We have our T-shirt, our, our very limited edition, just a bit outside T-shirt on the set right now.
I wore worn that to a couple of Brewer's games this year and people come up and say, how can we buy that?
Sadly, not available yet.
However, you can watch the great film just a bit outside the story of 1982 Milwaukee Brewers tonight for free.
In hour two, we're going to detail it and tell you exactly how friends of the program, Sean Hannish and Kelly Call, the director, producer and producer respectively of this great film.
We're going to be here talking about how you can see it tonight, how you can watch the film for free tonight.
Also,
They were a big part of the Bob Euker celebration of life at Ampham Field.
A few weeks ago, going to talk to them about what that experience was like.
So always great to catch up with Kelly and Sean, and we'll do that in hour number two of the brew crew on the air on the radio tonight.
So you can watch it on television, turn the sound down and listen to it on the radio.
Always a great option, great choice.
You can hear it tonight.
Starting at 6 30.
with a pregame show on the radio.
The first pitch just after seven o'clock in Texas, Arlington, Texas, the Rangers hosting the Brewers weird game last night.
Crew lost five to nothing.
And Jose Quintana didn't pitch all that terribly, but just a couple of pitches.
One of them was a grand slam for Texas.
And, you know, that's all it took.
So just kind of a weird game for the Brewers last night.
feels like they're going to get back on track today.
Certainly hope they will.
Here's the good news, though.
The Brewer's magic number in terms of winning the National League Central down to 11 as the Cubs lost again to Atlanta last night.
So the magic number for the crew down to 11 in the central 13 is the magic number if they want to get the number one seed for the National League and the overall Major League Baseball seed as well.
In terms of just making the postseason brewers magic number simply down to three.
So that's pretty much a foregone conclusion.
So lots of brewers talk coming up in our number two.
Also, what's worse today, a toasty edition in our two talking wheat versus white toast and coming up at the bottom of this hour, Lee Simpson, brother, assistant deputy director to the Wisconsin department of workforce development.
Bet you didn't know this.
It's.
the statewide department of workforce development month.
Gonna talk about jobs, what's going on Wisconsin job wise.
My old boss Dale Schultz once said, and it's very pertinent today.
At the time I thought, what the heck does he mean?
But he, one time we were walking around the Capitol over lunch and he said, yeah, it's a real good time if you've got a job to keep it.
And if you don't have a job, it's a good time to get one.
But I mean in today's environment pretty much true.
Is that ever not true?
Well, that's that was my question, but I think the other than what you know, sometimes the market is you know Favors people looking for work better and it's like we a lot of people are hiring maybe you can take a risk But in this environment where you know jobs are getting tighter I'd be a good job.
It might be a good time to keep it.
That's true Never a bad time.
I don't think to get a job
So anyway, we'll be talking jobs after the after the bottom of the hour here.
Also going to play a cut from our friend, Dr. Kristen Lyrely.
You can hear the Kristen Lyrely show across a couple of the stations on this network, but always via the Civic Media app.
You can listen to her at three o'clock in the afternoon on WISS out of Oshkosh on Saturday and Sunday.
And the show airs at 9 a.m.
on WGBW now playing.
Music and a little bit of news as well.
I think uh, it doesn't doesn't Pete Schwab's program air on gb.
He survived We did not at gbw, but he survived He's a hunker at Schwab anyway, and also dr. Liarley you can hear her program anyway She's got some actual medical thoughts on Tylenol
And the goofiness coming out of Washington and the U.S.
Department of Health and Human Services talking about Tylenol and pregnant women.
But here's where I want to start at 12 minutes past the hour of two o'clock for a Tuesday.
We have a new entry into the governor's race in the state of Wisconsin.
This from the Milwaukee Journal said, no hope.
Carnup.
Great reporter.
Another Democrat is throwing their name into the ring as Wisconsin's 2026 race for governor heats up.
Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley formally launched his campaign today in an interview with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
Crowley joins Lieutenant Governor Sara Rodriguez in the Democratic primary field, though others are expected to jump in.
On the Republican side, manufacturing CEO Bill Berrien and Washington County Executive Josh Schoeman have launched bids and U.S.
Rep Tom Tiffany.
is expected to announce soon.
Crowley said he wants to build on Democratic Governor Tony Evers' work using his legislative experience in the state capitol and leadership of the state's largest county.
Now, Crowley put out a video today announcing this.
And thank God I got Zomers around who understands things.
Because for the life of me, I was trying to find this video to play for y'all because we did the same thing when Lieutenant Governor Sara Rodriguez announced.
I mean, we played about a minute of hers.
We'll play about a minute of Crowley's.
And so I'm like, well, I'll go to the website.
Turns out, as near as we can tell, there is no Crowley for Governor website yet.
Yet.
But Zomers, God love him, found it.
Where do you find it on Twitter?
On
Twitter.
Not on his executive page, but on his
personal Twitter, as far as I can tell.
David
C. Crowley, you said.
So available at David C. Crowley on Twitter or X, whichever you prefer, if you want to watch the whole thing.
Here is County Executive, Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley, the first part of his announcement this morning on X.
I didn't grow up in the halls of power.
I grew up here and here and here.
evicted three times as a kid having to pick up yourself and everything you own off the curb.
It'll break you or it'll make you.
I'm David Crowley and I didn't want any child to go through that.
So I became a community organizer.
I went on to serve in the state assembly where I saw what happens when extremists had total control and I'd had enough
So at 33, I returned home, elected to lead the largest county in Wisconsin, helping create thousands of new jobs, cutting our carbon emissions in half, balancing the budget, all while delivering the largest property tax cut in our history, and convincing Madison to return more money right back to every local community across the state.
But the progress we've made isn't nearly enough.
With car shooting up, we're all getting less, even if you're making more.
And Donald Trump's chaos and cruelty means that the Wisconsin that we cherish will perish unless we unite and fight back.
So I've laid out my vision for a Wisconsin that works for everyone.
Stronger schools, safer streets, lower costs, and a lot more
jobs.
I get it, these things are fast-moving or whatever, but I hope that they put out a website soon.
We also looked on YouTube, right?
We couldn't find a YouTube channel or anything like that.
Other places had the video, but God love Aaron Zomers, our great producer.
He found it, and there, for all of you who are listening, enjoy it.
David Crowley, Milwaukee County Executive, throwing his hat into the ring.
Back to the story by Hope Carnop.
At the Milwaukee Journal said nowhere Crowley decided to announce and not, you know, not unexpected state's largest newspaper.
And also the newspaper there for Milwaukee County as well.
A couple of sub headlines here from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
What is David Crawley's political experience at Wright's?
Well, in 2020, Crawley became Milwaukee's first black county executive and the youngest person to hold office.
His policies have included fighting the opioid crisis, creating more affordable housing and reducing carbon emissions.
He oversees a $1.4 billion with a B dollar budget.
in the county that's facing a $47 million deficit and looming financial trouble.
Crowley helped negotiate a shared revenue deal with Republicans in 2023 to avoid a financial crisis in the city and county.
Recently, Crowley has led the county's response to historic flooding that damaged homes, businesses, and public infrastructure
urging President Donald Trump to approve a disaster declaration and start the flow of federal aid.
Before running for County Executive, Crowley served two terms in the State Assembly.
His career in politics began as an organizer for Russ Feingold's U.S.
Senate campaign in 2010, aiming to boost Black voter turnout.
He also worked as a legislative aide to County Supervisor and State Senator Nakia Harris Dodd.
So, there you go.
A little background on our newest entry into the race for governor, David Crowley, Milwaukee County Executive, and many thanks to Luke Mathers, our director of operations here on the News Talk side.
We have secured Mr. Crowley to be on the show tomorrow at 3.35, but in fairness...
And you know, Pat Crite low is our friend of ours.
We'll plug that up.
I believe that Mr. Crowley and county executive Crowley is going to be on mornings of Pat Crite low tomorrow morning.
So tune in between six and nine.
We'll find out the exact time.
We'll look at our content calendar.
Zomers there will pass that along for people.
So two chances to hear Crowley live tomorrow, once on Pat Crite low's program, mornings of Pat Crite low in the morning and then at 335 tomorrow afternoon here on this program.
So that'll be a lot.
We appreciate him coming on.
Yeah.
Now look at Zomers.
right on top of it again, 850.
So it'll be 850 right at the very end of the program tomorrow.
So set your alarms, wake up the kids, 850 in the morning, tune in to mornings of pack right low across the Civic Media Ready Network or on the Civic Media app.
And you can hear his interview with the Milwaukee County Executive, David Crowley, and then we'll have the executive at 335 in the afternoon on our program.
Gonna be very interesting.
Can't wait to talk with him.
have heard him on other programs and guy who really understands politics, I think, really has been able to cut across different political lines in Milwaukee County and gonna be very interesting now to see him go statewide.
And you know, there's always the knock any candidate coming out of the Milwaukee area.
Oh, well, you just, you know, you don't understand the rest of the state.
Gonna be interesting to see how he answers that question, how he's thought through that.
and how he might be already planning to inoculate himself from attacks from the Republican Party who might view him as a threat.
So we'll talk with David Crowley tomorrow, Milwaukee County executive on entering the race for governor tomorrow at 3.35.
Come on back, gonna talk about the latest hubbub and brouhaha on Tylenol.
Is it safe for women?
We have a definitive answer from our own Dr. Lirely.
She'll give you the details.
Not going to want to miss it.
Stay tuned on the All Ball Show in Civic
Media.
back the title ball show on the Civic Media Ready Network.
Twenty two now past the hour of two o'clock.
Let me along across the state of Wisconsin from Lake Superior to Lake Michigan, Green Bay to the Mississippi River and all points in between.
Come all the headlines for you on this Tuesday afternoon.
President Donald Trump says he will not comment on the Epstein birthday book letter.
He calls it quote unquote a dead issue.
I bet he does.
Turn out this thing was released last night through a subpoena through Congress.
This birthday book that exists and a legend, there's a drawing of there of apparently a naked woman and a message that Trump appeared to sign his name.
It's very squiggly and the way it was positioned is just gross.
It was supposed to be like her pubic hair, his signature.
He denied that it existed now it's come forward it appears allegedly to be real and Trump now saying that it's fake Stay tuned for more on that also Apple announced the new iPhone air and iPhone 17 and new wearables I'm sure all kinds of stuff going on there
And this is a, and coming up an hour too, I'm gonna be talking to Kelly Call and Sean Hannish about their film, just about a bit outside the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers, how you can watch it for free across broadcast television in Wisconsin tonight, following the Brewers versus the Rangers game.
And off the text line, you can text us as well on the Civic Media app, Manuel from Madison.
Listening to us on WMDX manual.
Thanks for the listen appreciate that he says I had a great time with my Apple TV crew in Pittsburgh on Friday I bought the maple syrup for the interview and after the game Murph came to hang out with our crew at the hotel bar.
He's got a photo of it
So that's super cool, Manuel.
A, thank you for listening to our little program here, and B, if you'd like, call in in hour number two when we're talking to Sean and Kelly.
Always great to have some insight there, because if you watch the Apple TV broadcast on a Friday, as I did, they're a great sideline performer, interviewer, and I apologize for not knowing her name off the top of my head.
She was the one that started the big pocket pancake thing with Murphy.
And on Friday of this week now he has a pocket quesadilla he pulled out and the sideline reporter pulled out some maple syrup Well, apparently Manuel is the one that bought that so how about that pretty cool.
All right, let's get to this quickly This from National Public Radio the Trump administration is planning a report this month that will reportedly link the use of a common painkiller acetaminophen
sold under the brand named Tylenol during pregnancy as well as certain vitamin deficiencies to autism spectrum disorder, despite lacking the scientific research to back up such claims.
This is just the latest controversy surrounding the actions of Health and Human Services Secretary
Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who has repeated unsupported claims, let me say that again, unsupported claims about autism in the past and promised to, quote, get to the bottom, unquote, of its cause.
And this is breaking today.
More news breaking up this hour of Kennedy releasing this, quote, make our children healthy again, promise, and tries to link Tylenol to autism.
Our very own Dr. Kristen Lierly put out
Word on this, a statement on Insta I believe yesterday, here are the facts of our very own Dr. Kristin Lierly.
Does Tylenol in pregnancy cause autism?
It's all of our social media, so let's break it down.
I get it.
We all want answers about what causes autism.
I'm an OBGYN doctor, but I'm also a mom.
And I know that parents are desperate for information for something to explain something to prevent autism.
That desperation is completely understandable, and it's not new.
So here's what caught my attention.
Back in April, RFK Jr.
made this oddly specific promise that we'd know what causes autism by September.
How could anybody know that timeline?
That's just not how science works.
Look, there are theories.
There are associations.
Studies looking at acetaminophen or Tylenol use during pregnancy have suggested that there may be an association between acetaminophen, Tylenol use, and pregnancy.
But, association is not causation, and other studies have disproven this association.
So, in other words, we still don't know what causes autism, and it's likely multifactorial due to many different causes.
Here's what the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists actually says.
Any medication taken during pregnancy should be used only as needed in moderation and after consulting with your doctor.
That's it.
That's the guidance.
Not panic, not bans.
Just talk to your doctor, use what you need, and use it wisely.
Your health care provider knows your individual situation.
Random people on the internet making September predictions?
They don't.
Listen, there's a lot at stake here.
Please make sure you are getting solid evidence-based information that is tailored to your specific situation.
Your future literally depends on
it.
No reason to ban anything.
There's no actual evidence scientific evidence that acetaminophen is causational or causes autism and This is why Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
And the Trump administration are so dangerous when it comes to our health because they're allowing politics to drive the narrative on health and not science and not data
and not research.
So talk with your actual doctor, folks, before you do any of this stuff.
Don't take a politician's word out in Washington, D.C.
Talk to your local doctor about what's best for you.
Thank you, Dr. Lyleigh, for putting that out.
Gonna come back, talk about something else that's important.
Jobs.
with Lee Sensenbrenner, Assistant Deputy Secretary of the Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development.
But right now, time for Farm News with Pam Yankee at the Midwest Farm Report.
You're listening to the All Ball Show across Wisconsin on the Civic Media Radio Network.
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Welcome back to the town of all show on the civic media ready to work.
Now 35 minutes past the hour of two o'clock on this Tuesday, September 9th.
Glad to have you long decked out in our brewer's gear here on the set.
Hour number two.
We're talking with Kelly Call and Sean Hannish about their great film, just a bit outside, which can be seen for free.
tonight, across many broadcast television stations in Wisconsin.
We'll give you details about that.
But joining us right now via StreamYard from Madison, all the way to Milwaukee Native, so he has a beautiful Milwaukee landscape behind him, is the Deputy Assistant Deputy Secretary of the Department of Workforce Development here in Wisconsin.
Lee Sensenbrenner joins us.
Deputy Secretary, thank you very much for being here.
How are you today?
Great, Todd.
How are you doing?
Doing wonderful.
Thank you so very much for asking.
This is timely.
Timely indeed, as Mike Lucas says, because the federal jobs numbers just got ticked down, turned out they were off by, you know, only a million.
And I think a lot of people are looking at the workforce right now saying, hey,
I need a better job, or I'm underemployed, I want a better paying job, or just looking for work out there.
So I know it's Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development Month, so very happy to have you for this discussion.
But as we do, with all of our guests appearing on the show for the first time, as we say, tell us a little bit about yourself, where you're from, and how you ended up in this position.
Sure.
Yeah.
Well, thanks a lot for having me.
I started off as a newspaper reporter.
I worked for the CapTimes and I got into government, I think as an extension of that, you know, you watch the issues and cover things.
And then I was part of the office of Governor Jim Doyle and then worked in a variety of state agencies and then
the University of Wisconsin-Madison and some private businesses.
Before I went back to state government, I was at the Department of Transportation for four or five years before coming to DWD, which I've been at for almost two years now.
Yeah.
And just to, you know, the elephant, the room for some people, they're gonna, you have a very famous last name, Sensenbrenner, and we don't have to go into the whole story, which you were telling off the air before we got on, but you're not directly related to, as they used to call Big Jim, former U.S.
Congressman Jim Sensenbrenner, but you kind of have some short, short tail relation to the, the Sensenbrenner name in the
Milwaukee area.
Yeah, that's right.
I mean, everybody asks the course, so I'm happy to, okay.
take care of the elephant in the room is called it um yeah I mean there was a mayor too in the 80s and Madison Joe Sensenbrenner and both Joe and Jim are direct descendants of a guy named Frank Sensenbrenner who
came back from World War One with all these ideas.
He was working for Kimberly Clark, and in World War One, they had something called the sell you cotton.
And he thought, well, there's uses for this.
We're going to take this to market.
And Kimberly Clark launched Cotex and Kleenex, which became huge, huge products.
And so that really propelled the family.
But I'm not directly descended from Frank Sensenbrenner.
I'm related to his brother, who
died at a young age.
The story, it could be a fake, but they said he fell off a ladder or something.
So
you get the name, but you didn't get
any of
the family wealth as it turned out, unfortunately,
for you.
Yeah, yeah.
I didn't see a name, but no benefits.
Well, I mean, that's a fine
name.
But I did see, I think if I did my research right, you are on the University of Wisconsin Madison crew team.
Is that right?
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Yeah.
And yeah, that was fantastic.
I mean, I still go up and ski the Berkabiner with my friends who are fellow rowers.
So yeah, it's a tremendous experience.
If anyone's out there listening or their kids are interested in rowing, go for it.
It's a wonderful sport, especially at UW Madison.
And I love going down, especially this time of year, going down to Memorial Terrace in either the morning or the afternoon and watch the boats and practice, whatever.
It's quintessential Madison this time of year.
But anyway, as they say, that's not why you're called.
We're talking with Assistant Deputy Secretary Lee Sensenbrenner of the Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development.
As we said, it is.
Department of Workforce Development Month, tell us, Deputy Secretary Sensenbrenner, what does that mean and what, so what are you trying to get the word out, particularly this month?
Yeah, yeah, Governor Evers declared it, Workforce Development Month, it kind of, you know, I think too, this time of year, you just kind of feel a sense of energy, school starting, the air changes, and it's a time where we're, I mean, all throughout the year, we're helping people get jobs, but
Starting tomorrow, we have what we call Workforce Wednesdays, which are at all of our job center locations.
We've got more than two dozen job centers across the state.
And so they'll be hosting Workforce Wednesdays to help people connect.
We've got career navigators to kind of look at people's resumes and see opportunities and help guide them to either getting a job, finding a better job.
I think a lot of people
It's a time that a lot of people can use some help, so we're ready to assist.
What do you talk about these job centers in Wisconsin?
I'm assuming that people go to the workforce development website in Wisconsin.
I might list those, but
what sort
of partnerships do you have within communities to the average person out there?
What does this really mean?
What services are being provided for someone looking for a job or looking for a different or better job?
Sure.
I mean, some of the some of the job centers are standalone offices.
Some of some of them are in libraries.
So they're integrated into community and we work with workforce development areas.
We've got, you know, local people who understand the job markets and can assist.
And we also work with employers too, because a lot of times employers, especially last year, was really tight labor market.
So they're looking for people to hire.
So it goes both ways.
They can help recruit and they can help.
point people in directions where there are real opportunity.
And part of that too is apprenticeship programs too can be a great thing if you're looking to go into a different career or explore new options.
But yeah, I mean, you hit it really on the head.
I mean, being integrated in the community and developing relationships with employers and finding people who are looking for jobs is a key part of the...
job center staff.
So, you know, I think you get, hunting for a job can be pretty lonely and frustrating, right?
And so the job centers are a chance to actually talk with a person who has expertise and years of helping people navigate this.
So it's worth checking out.
And like I said, those workforce or the workforce Wednesdays from
10 to noon starting tomorrow and then going for the next few weeks are a great opportunity.
And they are listed on our website.
If you just Google DWD or Job Centers in Wisconsin, you'll hit them.
We're talking with Assistant Deputy Secretary at Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development, Lee Sensenbrenner via StreamYard here.
Mr. Deputy Secretary.
I've looked for jobs later.
I mean, I'm 55.
I've been at this job for a little over three years, going on three years.
But I was in my 40s, near 50, looking for a different job or finding myself unemployed.
For me, it was done.
The whole thing now, everybody wants to do everything.
The in-person interview is almost gone.
You have to find this internet, finding the camera, making it look good, having the online interview.
And also now, all the resumes are electronic.
So are there things that these job centers could help people of any age in putting together an electronic resume and doing online interviews?
Yeah, that's exactly it.
I mean, what if it's been 10 years since you since you looked for your last job?
The landscape could be completely unfamiliar, right?
I mean, all kinds of things like you just touched on how to make your resume stand out in this age.
And, you know, there could be people who've never done an online interview, you know, completely foreign.
So to practice that and to, you know, do the setup run through some some things.
I think that's exactly kind of the things that the
the staff at UWE is ready to help with.
I find that just great because it's very intimidating when you get to a certain age and you're competing with 20 and 30 something.
This is all just second nature to them.
And you're going, wait, last time I was in the job force, I had a two page paper resume that I either brought it or mailed in.
And it's just very, very different.
Also in terms of where do you look for a job?
Again, when I was growing up,
You go to the Sunday Wisconsin State Journal and everything's posted there.
Are there aggregate websites or just DWD have a way that someone can say, hey, if I'm looking for a job in ex-vocation, where can I just find out where those jobs are located?
Yeah, Job Center of Wisconsin does a good job of aggregating a lot of jobs.
We try to capture as many as we can.
So that's kind of.
You talked about the Sunday State Journal or the Journal Sentinel.
Those days are almost gone, right?
Yeah.
Right, right, right.
So yeah, we're trying to build that kind of system where you can kind of see all the options that might be out there for you.
So on the other side of things, if you're an employer and Wisconsin is fortunate, we have a relatively low
unemployment work rate.
How does DWD work with employers, job creators to help them find workers because I hear from people trying to find, hey, I can't find quote unquote qualified people out there.
Right.
Yeah, that's a great question.
And there's a lot of different approaches to that.
And in part of it, I mean, part of it too depends on training workers for the for the jobs that an employer might need, right?
And that's why we've seen I think
tremendous growth and apprenticeship programs.
We've had record apprenticeship participation in the last few years, each year higher and higher.
So I think training workers to fit employers' needs is one way.
We've got a lot of grants out there that help build skills that are in high demand for the workforce.
But I mean, it is a constant area of focus where we're looking at how it can help.
both sides, you know, talent meets opportunity.
And a lot of it's very, you know, very direct one-on-one, trying to meet employers needs and find out how we can help.
the person who's looking for a job who hasn't maybe in 15 years or so.
A little over two minutes left, Deputy Secretary.
Let's touch a little bit more on this Wisconsin apprenticeship program because I think it's just really, really exciting.
As cost of education, it goes higher.
It might be inaccessible to some people.
Are these situations where if you have a skill that are willing to put in the sweat, you can go right into an apprenticeship program?
Are they just blue collar jobs or also like tech, IT, computer things?
Yeah, it's really broad now.
I mean maybe people think of apprenticeship and they think of the building trades or other trades and and those are certainly like very strong and and sought after apprenticeships they continue to grow But but now we've got apprenticeships and in all kinds of fields for anything you said health healthcare or you said it but also healthcare and You know apprenticeship too is really growing we have
youth apprenticeships and law enforcement and firefighting and you know the scope of apprenticeship in Wisconsin has a tremendous history in apprenticeship.
We were in an early state to the first state really to launch your apprenticeship model and we continue to just build and build and look for new pathways and new ways to let people earn as you learn you know because it's really
a model where you don't have to take on enormous student debt that you can you can keep paying your bills and gain a career.
I find it extraordinary.
I think that still often
State government gets knocked for what do they actually do?
Well, here's a great example at department workforce development where you're doing real things in communities to help both people find work and employers find qualified workers and for these apprenticeship programs You're not asking people to put out thousands of dollars necessarily in education which people might not have so I applaud you I applaud the the department and the governor for doing this assistant deputy secretary of
of Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development, Lee Sensenbredder.
Thank you very much for taking time with us today.
And I would encourage everybody to go on the DWD website and learn more.
Well, thanks, Todd.
And thanks for all your attention to workforce issues.
And this has been a pleasure.
Thanks for having me.
A
pleasure was ours.
And I got to talk a little rowing as well.
Come on back more on the other side of the Town Hall Ball Show for a Tuesday on Civic Media Ready Network.
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Welcome back to the top of all show on the Civic Media Ready Network.
Eight minutes now before the hour of 30 o'clock.
Glad to have you along on a Tuesday, September 9th, 2025.
Zomers on the board.
Many thanks to Assistant Deputy Secretary Lee Sensenbrenner, Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development.
Now there are some good things that you could actually use because I know what I was looking at.
I've been looking for jobs at different points of my life.
It could be very, very intimidating.
And I'm not here to tell you, and I don't think the Assistant Deputy Secretary was either.
You might not find every answer at the Department of Workforce Development website or their job centers, but it's a start.
And I think when you're out of work and you're looking for work, you just need somebody to help start you out.
And so I would encourage people to go to the DWP website and start there.
Many thanks for him taking his time.
Now, this is fantastic.
People say, Todd.
Do you enjoy your job?
And I say, I love it.
And one of the reasons is we're live.
You never know who's going to stop by.
You never know who's going to be listening.
And this is fantastic.
As earlier in the show, if you're with us, I read a text from one of our listeners, Manuel, listening here in Madison on WMDX, because in hour number two, as you can see from the set, we're going to have our friends, Kelly Call and Sean Hannes from Just A Bit Outside, the story that 1982 will walk you brewers on.
And Manuel texts.
and said he is on the Apple Plus TV crew, which I subscribed to, and I watched the game on Friday, and he said that Pat Murphy hung out with the crew after the game, and now he's joining us via the telephone Manuel from Apple Plus TV with the Brewers crew.
Manuel, how are you?
Hey, I'm doing well.
How are you?
I am fantastic.
Thank you very much for texting and calling in.
So how long have you been with the Apple TV crew?
Yeah, so this is my third year with them.
I'm actually a vendor for them working through MLB TV for them as a RF engineer.
And yeah, we have a great team, a great crew, and Trisha did the pocket pancake interview.
Of course, it went viral and we were all excited.
And then we had the brewers come up again in Pittsburgh.
So the producer was like, well...
What do you think about like maple syrup?
I was like, yeah, we're going to get some in Wisconsin and bring it for for us.
And that's
that's how
that happened.
I think it's so cool.
So so whose idea that does Murph come up with these ideas?
Or is it is it Trisha?
Who who said let's do a quesadilla this time?
Yes, the most comes up with the food idea He told us that he was gonna do something in the interview interview in DC when he pulled up the pocket pancake.
We didn't know what it was and This time we also had no idea, but we had the maple syrup and I think Trisha did a really great job playing along
She did no, she absolutely did and and you posted you sent a photo on the on the app here for us of you and Murphy at a bar So he hung out with you guys after the game
Yeah, it was incredible.
So we were just at the hotel bar at the Renaissance as a team Spillie our analyst had his birthday and all of a sudden we see this bus stop up front and we're like wait, does the team stay here?
Somebody comes out and then the bus carries on and we realize it's Merv walking into the hotel just to come hang out with us.
It was incredible.
That's really really cool to talk with Manuel here from Madison who is part of the Apple TV plus crew who covers cover the Brewers on on Friday So, you know what I'm not asking to share things you can't but but what do you just like as a person to hang out with and have a beer?
You know what incredible he did not drink he bought his own drink probably a Gatorade Didn't want us to buy anything for him.
He just hung out with Trisha and our field producer and I asked him You know if I could take a picture with him and he asked me I had a brewers hat on as you can see in the photo And he said who's your favorite Brewer and I said you know you are Let me guess and it was interesting because he guessed who my favorite Brewer was and he said sell self relic really and
And I thought it was interesting because in a sense I'm kind of thinking...
I wonder if he was trying to tell me who his favorite one was, but he can't really say that.
Right.
Right.
That's fantastic.
Cause my friends that know me know that South Relic is also my favorite brewer on the team.
I just think he's fantastic and I like his work ethic and he's, he's hitting like fire right now.
And, and you know that Murph has, he's always teasing and arousing South Relic.
So yeah, maybe there is kind of a, a cool relationship there.
Uh, so are you, are you, are you, obviously you must follow other teams if you're on the Apple plus.
You don't just do the brewers.
You do each of these games on Friday.
Correct.
Yeah, we're going to be in Seattle this coming Friday, then Kansas City and Boston, and then it's time for me to jump to Fox for the postseason.
Wow.
That's just how long you've been in the, you said you do engineering predominantly, Manuel?
Yeah, so it's the RF infrastructure that I set up and I've been doing that since 2019 in Madison.
I also run a fair trade nonprofit called Ethical Trade Co.
We've actually been out with Rocker and Jimmy several times throughout the program.
So that's another thing I do here in Madison as well.
Well, I think this is fantastic.
And again, this is why I love doing this program because we have great listeners like yourself and you never know who you're going to talk to.
Let's make sure that Zommerz, my producer, has your contact info.
Let's keep in touch because we'd love to have you come in and talk a little bit longer sometime because I've learned that oftentimes it's the people on the cruise, whether it's TV or radio, who can really have the best insight into some of these events.
And I'm sure you've got a lot of stories from all your travels over the years, Manuel.
Oh, yeah, I would absolutely love that.
So
if we get to hang out, Todd, that'd be, that'd be wonderful.
Well, I look forward to it.
Let's make sure that stay on the line.
I have Zomers.
Get your contact info.
Manuel from Apple Plus TV, who hung out with Murph and brought the syrup for the quesadilla.
How cool is that?
Safe travels, Manuel, out to Seattle.
My god, one of my godsons lives out there.
It's a great city and a great stadium.
So safe travels out there.
We'll be watching on Friday night.
Perfect.
Thank you so
much.
All right.
Thank you very much Manuel everybody from my Apple Plus TV who covered the Brewers last couple of games on How cool is that summer's
very I mean I I have long held the belief that for any movie or broadcast or anything behind-the-scenes Information can often be cooler than the thing itself at least for me.
I'm a
big
nerd We got it confirmed.
I'm not sure anybody else has reported this it's Pat Murphy
the Brewer's Manager, who selects the food in the pocket.
Which
makes sense.
I
mean, I would want to pick the food that goes in my pocket.
Exactly.
Come on back.
Hour number two is straight ahead.
Gonna start off with some news of two Marquette athletes who were killed this past week.
Gonna honor them as well.
And then later on in the hour our old friends, Sean, Anish, and Kelly called from just to been outside.
We'll talk about the movie which is going to be shown for free across Wisconsin television tonight.
Big hour number two.
Come on back on the Civic Media already network.
From the Civic Media World Headquarters in Madison, Wisconsin, it's the Todd Alba Show.
And now, pursuing truth wherever it may lead, here's your host, Todd Alba.
A Cruz, Wisconsin on the Civic Media Radio Network.
and streaming worldwide on the Civic Media app.
Good afternoon, everybody.
Todd Allbaugh, along with our producer and engineer, Mr. Aaron Zommers, on the board.
It's six minutes past the hour of three o'clock.
Welcome into hour number two of the big broadcast here on Tuesday, September 9th, 2025.
It is a great day to be in Wisconsinite.
Glad to have you along at the World Headquarters of Civic Media on State Street at the intersection of State and Fairchild.
Overcast sky, some high clouds.
We have time to take a look at the Sam Davidson street cam, Mr. Zomers.
Look at that there, people traversing the street, going up the state street right now.
Got a little jacket weather.
Look, a yellow cab.
You don't see those many, many times, very often anymore.
A yellow cab making its way on Fairchild there.
You see the lovely Overture Center on the right hand side of the screen there.
Leaves, you could just tell.
Here on State Street a hint of yellow just a hint just a hint in some of those either box elder trees or something like that But a beautiful day here in Madison University, Wisconsin Madison, of course as well a great day to get out all across the state of Wisconsin Brittany Merleau and our weather team says Maybe a chance of rain Friday and Saturday in some parts of the state but all in all pretty seasonal seasonal great time to get outside and enjoy the weather
Great to have you along.
Big hour this hour at the bottom.
Just after the farm news of Pam Yankee, friends of the program, Sean Hamish and Kelly Call, the producer and director and producer, respectively, of just a bit outside the store of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers great film released last year at Marcus Theaters.
And then it was been streaming on Roku and.
Amazon Prime, I believe Apple Plus TV as well.
And now tonight, because a lot of people have told me not a lot.
Some people have told me, well, I don't have any of those things.
There's too much work.
Well, guess what?
Most people have a television and rabbit ears or basic cable.
And tonight is your night if you haven't seen it to see just a bit outside for free after the Brewers game.
Gonna talk with.
Sean and Kelly and tell you how at the bottom of this hour Don't forget the Brewers over the radio tonight great you could you could watch on the TV Turn this volume down and listen to the crew on the radio You could do so on the Milwaukee Brewers radio network starting at 6 30 with a pregame show first pitch just after seven o'clock From Arlington outside of Dallas the Rangers hosting the crew Rangers as Clemens said during the break there
Rangers beat the crew five nothing last night you can hear the game though tonight on RCE and Richland Center on W ISS in Oshkosh WCQM and Park Falls and now a WBZH in beautiful Hayward, Wisconsin Also gonna do a what's worse for you coming up here in just a couple of minutes as well But first at nine minutes past the hour of three o'clock if you would indulge me and I don't do this too often.
I don't think but
One of the great privileges of having a radio program like this is you're able to pay tribute to people that you respect, that you love, and that you know.
And if you would allow me just a couple of moments to tell you about my friend Linda Gentis and give my condolences to her husband, Hank, Newenhaus, and her friends and her family.
Linda passed away, Linda Gentis, in Richland Center.
over this past weekend and has now been made public after a brief illness.
And for those that have listened and watched this program over the last almost three years, you've heard me talk about her.
She's been on the program.
She was very active.
She was a member of the county board up until recently, and she was integral to the University of Wisconsin-Richland campus.
And no one fought harder to keep that campus open than Linda Gentis.
I first got to know her in the late 80s, 1988 when I was a freshman at UW Richland, the fall.
She ran the Central American Scholarship Program locally at the campus.
And she was in charge of welcoming the students from all over Central America, usually about 16 students every year.
And she would welcome them.
She would be the liaison to help find local host families for the students of which our family was one.
And then she would help them get registered for classes.
She would kind of be their counselor because they came here most of these students with little or no English.
And so you could imagine how difficult it was to integrate into families.
as well as being taught college level classes, and the professors were, most of them were not fluent or knew little of any Spanish, so they were being taught at the same pace as native English speakers, and they had to survive.
And no one did a better job of mentoring, of counseling, and changing lives, including my own, than Linda Gentis.
If it had not been for her commitment to this program, I would never have met my friends from Central America.
The person who ended up being the mother of my God sons, I would not have my God sons.
Some of my closest friends, people who are family to me.
And it was all due to Linda Gentis taking the
Bull by the Horns and say, I will make this program succeed.
I will oversee it.
And yes, former of the late great Dr. Tom Oates was the dean who helped bring this program here.
It was administered through Georgetown for a Republican U.S.
Senator from Wisconsin.
If we talk about it before, Bob Casten was one of the authors in Congress in a bipartisan way that helped fund this program that brought these kids from.
poor families in Central America who were brilliant students and brought them to the U.S.
in a full ride for two years to learn either business or computer science with the requirement that they return home to their families for at least two years in Central America.
And you can imagine growing up in a town of 5,000 people in Southwest Wisconsin, predominantly white at the time, still is, I guess, predominantly white, to bring in folks from Central America was life changing.
And I think that anybody who was a part of this program in my hometown or other places, it was other places in Wisconsin as well, other two-year campuses, Rice Lake, for instance, Marathon, Wausau, Fox Valley, that we as Wisconsinites learned more from them than I think that they ever did from us.
And it would have never happened
Without people like Linda Gentis and it would have never happened at Richland County without Linda Gentis and her passing this weekend rather unexpectedly after a brief illness is Sad to me and it breaks my heart for especially for her husband to hang new and I was another great guy because another great person but
Her legacy her what she is going to be remembered for in my mind is all of the lives including my own that were made better because of Linda Gentis and her work and at the end of the day What better legacy can any of us have?
Then knowing that we change people's lives for the good and for the better
and it's incumbent upon each of us, I feel, to continue that legacy and pass that along.
My heart goes out to my friend Linda Gentis and her family and her husband.
Linda Gentis was 76 years old.
It's 15 now past the hour of three o'clock.
This from WISN Channel 12 in Milwaukee.
Marquette is mourning Marquette University mourning the loss of two of its student athletes who were killed in a crash on Friday evening The university says 20 year old Noah Snyder and 19 year old Scott Bichaud died and two other teammates were hurt Milwaukee police arrested a 41 year old driver of the other vehicle in the crash
A Milwaukee police search warrant obtained by 12 news Investigates late on Monday shows the woman admitted to drinking two quote steel reserves unquote a type of malt liquor before the crash jail records and the search warrant show Police refer to charge while operating while intoxicated causing death as of today the Milwaukee County District Attorney's office has not charged the woman
who was booked into Milwaukee County Jail on Sunday.
WISN Channel 12 news is not naming her.
The search warrant states that the woman was driving a Ford Ranger north on 27th Street near St.
Paul Avenue at the time of the crash.
Six others were to Silver Jeep Grand Cherokee according to the search warrant at the same intersection with the two collided.
Snyder and Machoud were both passengers in the car.
The search warrant states that the woman, quote, had slurred speech and the odor of intoxicants were emanating from her breath and later admitted to consuming alcohol prior to the collision, unquote.
Police also performed a field sobriety test, which, quote, was positive signs of impairment were observed, unquote.
Marquette President, the Marquette President that has opened a panel
on Education Monday afternoon by addressing the crash saying, quote, you kind of worked your way through it, but you don't expect it to happen, especially when they're so young.
You said the most important thing for us right now is to learn and lean into our Catholic Jesuit traditions to be present for our students to help them through the healing process.
Most folks know, no bigger cardinal and white Badger fan than me, but today,
I offer my deep condolences, my thoughts, my prayers, my heartfelt wishes for the entire Marquette University community and all of the students and families who lost two young men, Noah Snyder and Scott Bichaud, who had their whole life ahead of them, who are members of the, believe it or not, of the Marquette University lacrosse team.
And seemingly through no fault of their own, because seemingly allegedly
a drunk driver decided to get behind the wheel and ruined two young men's lives.
It is a sad and unfortunate but good reminder to all of us to think before we get behind the wheel of the vehicle.
If you feel buzzed, if you've been doing things other than drinking, all of that can lead to
limited ability to drive safely.
And when you read stories like this, all it takes is one mistake behind the wheel to affect other people's lives forever.
It's sad, but good reminder to all of us.
So I apologize if you started the hour off on a couple of less than upbeat stories, but I think it's really important.
to take the time to think about these things and remember them as well.
We're gonna come up here, gotta do a little business as they say.
Gonna turn the page, come back, we'll do a quick rendition of our what's worse today.
I'll give you a hint.
It involves toast.
And who doesn't like toast?
I do.
particularly with strawberry and rhubarb jam.
So we'll come back, talk about toast, wheat toast, or white toast, and then stick around because at the bottom of the hour, our old friends of the program, Sean Hannish and Kelly Call, are going to be along and talk about their great film, Just A Bit Outside and the Brew Crew.
What was it like at the Euker Celebration of Life, being the ones putting together the video content with all the celebrities and family there?
We'll ask them that as well.
Stick around.
The All Ball Show continues for Tuesday on The Civic Media.
Ready
Network.
Hey, have you ever tried Really reaching out for the other side I may be climbing on rainbows But
baby here goes
Network now 22 past the hour of three o'clock on a Tuesday, September 9th.
Gonna talk baseball after the bottom of the hour.
Brew crew in action tonight down in Texas.
You can hear the pregame show at 6 30.
The first pitch just after seven o'clock.
You can watch it for free on many.
Network stations across Wisconsin and then stick around for just a bit outside the store the nineteen eighty two Milwaukee Brewers gonna talk with Sean Hannish and Kelly Call about that after the bottom of the hour But right now at twenty three past time was again for what's worse.
Let's go
Time
once
again for what's worse nothing give way no prize money involved is your chance to have your voice heard on all ten news talk and sports Network stations of the civic media ready network all right timely timely indeed as Our friend well, we hope we hope he's our I'm going to see them tonight Mike Lucas and Tom Oates as part of the ideas fest which is part of the capital times there anyway
This is the time of year where you wake up in the morning and you think to yourself, it's just, sometimes it's the smell of foods that get me, not just the taste.
And for me, toast in the morning.
So today, on a fall day, the category today is white toast or wheat toast.
What's worse, white toast or wheat toast?
Now, Zahra says, the song that you played is by Bread.
Yeah, it's make it with you by the band,
Bread.
I did not know that.
I was wondering where it was going.
I wasn't quite sure.
I didn't know if I should ask.
Normally the lyrics tie in with this time.
It's the band.
Yeah, very good.
Make it with you by Bread.
Well, I mean, it's always fun to make toast together with other people, a toast party.
What's worse, white toast or wheat toast?
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What's worse?
White toast or wheat toast?
855-752-4842.
855-752-4842.
Let's go to beautiful Mount Horrib.
Troy, our good listener, listening on W.
I X or MD X pardon me MD X in Madison Troy Monthorpe Troy white toast or wheat toast.
What's worse?
Good afternoon, Todd and Zomers What's worse is white toast
any particular reason why?
White bread just an awful It's got no no value whatsoever.
No, you're saying wow.
All right
One of my earliest memories, my grandma and I used to, so this was before, you know, I was like four, three or four.
My grandma and I used to eat breakfast together and we'd eat toast with peanut butter on it and dip it in our coffee.
Oh,
that's great.
That's great memories, right?
Of toast?
Yeah.
And she always had that.
What is it?
Honey nut?
Honey nut Cheerios?
Oh,
toast.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah,
yeah.
It's got like a...
Or just label.
All right.
Yeah.
You know, so we used to eat that morning.
Sarah Lee, maybe.
Oh, maybe.
Yeah.
I know
they have honey wheat.
Oh, maybe.
You
had the
toast.
I forget.
It's a great memory.
Yeah.
I remember everything but the name of the brand.
But I remember it was Honey Wheat.
Right.
Well, thanks, Troy.
I appreciate you calling in.
Appreciate listening as always.
Have a great day
out there.
Have a great
day.
Hey, you too out there, beautiful Montor.
What's worse, white toast or wheat toast?
855-752-4842.
855-752-4842.
Casper, one of our great engineers, listening on MDX says, I don't have a huge preference.
What's worse than both of those things is waking up at 4 a.m., like I did this morning, having a faint smell of burnt toast.
I thought I was having a stroke what wow be careful out there says a sign of
a strokes really like you're smelling burnt toast
so gosh take care of yourself Casper He says I'm more of an English muffin kind of guy.
What's worse?
White toast or wheat toast 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 Mary out in Mount Horam listening on MDX says in case Zomers isn't familiar with the song I would say white
as wheat
at least has some nutritional value.
Yeah, she sent us a song
called
Toast by Haywood Banks.
Do you want to listen to a little bit?
Give me a 10 seconds or 15 seconds, sure.
This is a live rendition.
All around the country and coast, coast.
People are always saying, what do you lack most?
I don't want a brand.
I don't want a post.
I always tell them, I like toast.
Oh, I like that.
Yeah, I like toast.
I like that.
What's, what's worse, white toast or wheat toast?
Matt, one of our great UPS drivers out there, Matt Miltz, I should say, uh, wheat is better.
As I think white has more sugar and no taste, though both are enriched, so we should not be, uh, have too much of either.
All right, Mike, brand new listener in Madison on WMDX.
Thanks, Mike, for tuning us in here in the Mad City.
Mike says, I do both, but when you serve toast to ask to be.
brown or dark brown.
Otherwise, it's just warm bread.
There should be a fine for people who serve warm bread instead of toast.
There's something to be said for that.
You want it to be toasty.
Heather Neau Claire, WCFW on Facebook says, I love bread.
The band and the carbs.
There really isn't a worse, maybe a dry plain white toast is worse, but I like it all.
Zombers,
what's worse?
White bread.
I'm a big fan of the flavors of wheat bread, especially if you got seeds in there.
I love that.
I don't like too many seeds, but I like here in Madison, the Colossans, I think it's country or like a French country cracked.
That is good
bread.
Yeah, that's really good.
Although I will say there is a cause for like white bread for French toast or something like that.
So anyway, I would say the white is worse.
All right.
There's nothing worse while Kelly Collins, Sean Hamish or their film just a bit outside.
We'll talk to them after this.
Farm News is next to Pam Yankee.
You're listening to the Civic Media Radio Network.
or three o'clock on this Tuesday, September 9th, 2025.
If that music sounds familiar, it might be because you're a fan of just a bit outside the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers, not just a great visual film, but the music.
The vibes about it, it takes you right back to 1982 for those of us who are old enough to remember that.
And in my opinion, as someone who lived through 82, I haven't felt vibes like this for the Brewers since then, and it's a special season today.
And if you have not seen just a bit outside the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers, I ran into somebody, by the way, this weekend, who the film came up, and they said, I just haven't had time yet.
All right, no more excuses because tonight, ladies and gentlemen, across Wisconsin, you can see it for free.
And here to tell us all about it and to talk about the film are friends of the program, Sean Hannish and Kelly Call, the director, producer and producer of Just A Bit Outside, the store of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers.
Sean, Kelly, welcome back to the program.
Thanks for being here.
Great to
be here Todd.
It's always fun guys lots to catch up on but let's make sure we get to it because I want to make this is really the thrust you guys put on back on today is we got this release that the movie is going to be shown tonight and for those who
Don't know or don't follow the Brewers every day.
First of all, what's wrong with you?
But I got to get this quick plug out You can listen turn down the television and listen to it on the radio The Brewers taking on the Texas Rangers tonight at 6 30 for the pregame show the radio side first pitch at seven o'clock you could hear it on WRCE and Richland Center WISS and Oshkosh WRJN Racine Kenosha and WCQ in Park Falls and WBZH and Hayward our
of affiliates here at Civic Media.
But guys, this doesn't happen very often now with all the different rights and everything, but Sean, it's going to be shown tonight on several broadcast stations, the FanDuel feed, correct?
It is, yes.
We were just thrilled when our friends at Good Karma came and said, hey, we want to put this across the state in actual, like, over-the-air free TV broadcast, which, I mean, it's amazing.
You need to think that people can now just turn on their television.
You check their local listings, turn on their television.
And within this week and next week, you're going to be able to actually watch the film on TV, you know?
No need to go to the theater, no need to worry about an app.
It's right there for you.
And Kelly, you're for a president of CBS Entertainment, of course.
You know how these things work better than anyone else.
How did you guys come upon this and make this happen?
And before you answer that, we'd give you...
folks the station will come back to it in Milwaukee for those listening on our station WAUK in Milwaukee you can see it on CBS 58 that's WMLW for our friends here in Madison that listen to us on WMDX you can watch it on Channel 3000 WISC TV or TVW in Wausau WSAW in Green Bay WGBA and WACY and in La Crosse WKBT Kelly
How does this happen that you guys got this film on broadcast television in Wisconsin?
Well, I think we start first with a disclaimer, which as they say, check your local listings because they are not all airing at once.
The one we know tonight is TV Wisconsin out of Madison, which is a part of WISC, but that's, I believe it's channel 3.2 tonight.
Correct.
And they're airing the game and it's right on after the game.
We know we are on WMLW tomorrow in Milwaukee.
I think that's at 630.
And the rest of the state will kind of come up when it comes up.
To be honest, we had a couple of stations approach us and asked us, hey, we saw your movie.
How can we air it?
And as opposed to us going from station to station to station,
We reached out to the good people at Good Karma and said, you already have a brewers contact with several TV stations.
Would it be possible to work together to essentially help clear us throughout this, you know, all over the state versus us going one by one by one?
They jumped right on it.
And the other kind of interesting twist here, they came back and asked, what if we aired on some of our Good Karma radio stations?
And we were kind of like,
Okay, I guess.
And then, you know, Sean and I went in and, you know, kind of closed our eyes and listened and it was like, it kind of works on the radio too.
So we'll see.
I'm excited about this, and like I said, I know Civic, we here have some of these Brewer affiliates as well, and I hope at some point we can get it on those stations across Wisconsin as well.
But just to reiterate, for people listening to our show now in Madison, and also to be for our listeners on WRCE and Richland Center, they also get Channel 3 here out of Madison.
If you have the old rabbit ears, go to, as Kelly said, it's 3.
One or two trip from 3.2 digitally or if you have like YouTube or or direct TV.
It's TV W
on there so you can watch it either way.
Sean, tell us a little bit about the excitement and the air around this film.
I mentioned I'm getting all the vibes I got from 82.
But then you add in the celebration of life for Bob Euker recently.
And I know you guys were asked to put together the video for the in stadium presentations.
Well, I mean, I think this whole past year has been all things brewers, certainly for us.
I mean, you know, releasing this movie in theaters last fall during, you know, that great, you know, great run to the playoffs.
And then, you know, obviously, listen with it with Bob Buker passing and all of the outpouring of love and affection from the community and frankly, from around the country.
You know, I believe, you know, again, it's all things bruised.
Kelly and I were really given the honor of creating the
films for the Bob Uker Celebration of Life, both the private one back in April and also the public one that was a couple weekends ago in Milwaukee at the American Family Field.
I mean, that was a real honor.
I think, certainly for me, it's one of the greatest honors that you can have as somebody who puts together films and narrative to say, would you put together the story of Bob Uker?
I mean, how do you do that?
I know I was floating for about five minutes and then I was like, oh my god, that's a real responsibility.
We have
to do this and it has to be great.
This is one you can't phone in.
We're
on a deadline, but we put our heads down with our team of editors and composers.
I couldn't be prouder of what we put together.
In the stadium, it was a really spectacular and special day to hear people, you know, 42,000, have you ever heard 42,000 people laughing at the same time?
I haven't.
And then have you ever heard a pin drop with 42,000 people?
It was an incredibly special day and we were just so thrilled to be a part of it.
But going back to the season,
I personally haven't felt Brewer's energy like this since 82.
We've had good seasons, you know.
2018 was a really good season, maybe, you know, NLCS.
You know, Team Streak was a really fun season, but no season like this.
And I think there were a lot of similarities between, you know, Harvey Keen and Murph.
There's a lot of similarities between a guy like Robin Yell and Christian Yellich.
I think, you know, but most of all, the palpable excitement for going to the stadium or turning on the game right now, it's at a fever pitch.
Yeah, it really is.
We have it earlier in the show, and you guys will appreciate this.
One of the great things about live broadcasting, we had a guy listening to the show earlier named Manuel, who is one of the engineers on Apple Plus TV.
And he called in and we talked to him last hour and was talking about the fact that
Pat Murphy was the one that came up with a whole pancake, a pocket pancake idea and quesadilla.
And this guy, Manuel, he brought the maple syrup to last week's game out in Pittsburgh on Friday for Murphy to use on the air.
So I mean, this thing is just infectious.
It doesn't matter who you are.
And it's so much fun right now.
I mean, it really is.
I mean, listen, the pop pocket pancake is epic, you know, but also the brewers, let's be honest, the brewers.
have a
I just I count my lucky stars that I'm a brewers fan this year.
Yeah, we're talking with Sean Hannish and Kelly call the director producer and producer respectively of just a bit outside the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers.
You can see it if you're listening to us in Madison original and center on the CBS affiliate, at least their secondary channel, TVW.
That's 3.2 digitally after the brewers game tonight, which is going to be shown for free on that channel and more stations.
as they say to come.
I want to ask you both to start with Kelly and then to Sean.
Sean, I'll preface it for those that don't know, Sean founded a company called Cannonball Productions.
You've worked with people like Mini Driver and let's start with Kelly.
As former president of CBS, you were some of the biggest names entertainment Kelly in your time at CBS.
But what was it like for both of you?
to have the honor to do this work for Bob Euker, someone who is a childhood legend.
And you guys, as Wisconsinites, got to do this.
And you got Bob Costas there, a huge name of broadcasting.
Al Michaels, I know is around.
What was it like for your standpoint that working from the biggest names in the industry to this, Kelly?
I think
just...
you have to set aside wanting to kind of pinch yourself that, hey, I'm with this person and remind yourself at the same time, you know, we have a job to do.
And I'll share this with the, especially about the Eucer interview.
You know, Bob had been on the Tonight Show, you know, 100 times or whatever, and Bob kind of would lock into these kind of stories about...
his life and we had to kind of keep pulling Bob we only had limited time we had to kind of keep pulling him back to 82 you know like Bob that's great 82 82 and we got done and we looked at each other and we said well okay it's we got what we needed it was a little rambling but we got what we needed and then when the brewers called and said you know asked us to do these videos the first thing we did was went back and you know looked at this interview we had done and I guess without us realizing it
And I'm not like super spiritual or anything, but Bob handed us the story of his life on a silver platter in his own words.
And people were like, how did you get all this?
And it was like we just interviewed him.
And we had kind of one of the last interviews with him.
But he gave us everything we needed to kind of do this assignment.
And whether he knew it or not, I don't know.
There was a little bit of kismet
and magic.
Aaron Zahmer, who's a great producer, has something queued up here.
I know that what was shown in Ampham Field, what we might have seen on FanDuel, might have been a little different, but I know this is you guys' stuff, because here's part of that interview that's in just a bit outside the story of the 1988 Brewers, and Sean and Kelly's one of their last interviews with Bob Euker.
This is from the Celebration of Life.
Johnny
Keen informed the coaching staff that I would not play in the World Series because of that incident where I picked the tuba up and was walking around.
They had three Dixieland bands on the field playing prior to World Series.
And Roger Craig was standing alongside of me.
And the band that was playing in left field...
put their instruments down.
So there's a tuba laying up against near the bullpen.
So Roger says, you go put that on.
So I grabbed this guy's tuba, and I was catching fly balls.
I dented it.
First
I tried to get a trumpet on, and that was too small.
That's a little bit of a Uker's story there from the celebration of life.
We're talking with Sean Hannish and Kelly Call of the film, just a bit outside the story of the 1980 Milwaukee Brewers.
Got to do a little business, but we'll come back.
Talk about how you can see the film tonight for free across parts of Wisconsin.
And more about the film is the all ball show across Wisconsin.
Milwaukee has the Brewers and the Brewers have it all.
With pitching in the clutch and how they bang that ball.
We don't care who leads in spring, what counts is in the fall.
World Series time is when you'll find our Brewers standing tall.
Welcome back to the title.
We'll show up the civic media where it worked eight minutes now before the hour of four o'clock at the top of the hour.
ABC or CBS News depending upon which of our great stations you're listening to a check of weather.
I'll tell you what it is.
beautiful in Wisconsin today.
And then our great sports reporter, Mike Clemens on the latest from Lambeau Field to get ready to take on the Washington Commanders on Thursday.
And of course, the Brewers playing tonight down in Arlington against the Rangers.
Time for the radio broadcast pregame show 6 30 first pitch just after seven o'clock.
You could also watch it on select stations across the state of Wisconsin broadcast as Letterman used to say, I hope one of your stations has been.
Selected and then stick around for just a bit outside this story the nineteen eighty two Milwaukee Brewers being shown here in the Madison CBS affiliate TV W 3.2 on the digital dial or TV W on places like YouTube and Direct TV guys Brewers a weird game last night the crew dropped five nothing to Texas But I feel like it is a due for a comeback to lead into the into the show tonight or into the movie
tonight.
Sean, what was it like to the question I gave to Kelly before the break there?
You've worked with some of the biggest names in the Hollywood.
What was it like doing this Euker tribute for the celebration of life?
Honestly, I felt more pressured doing this Euker tribute than I felt during almost any project in my life.
Only because he's so well known and so well loved that, you know, as I said, like, you know,
for a few minutes after we were asked to do this I was my feet weren't touching the ground I was floating the honor was so uh honestly so profound but then it was kind of like oh and by the way you really can't screw this up I mean you know there's a lot of you there's a lot of you know everybody loves you so you know I really I think both Kelly and I were like
OK, we really needed a good approach.
And one of the things I'm proudest that we came up with was the idea of telling his life story in four bases.
Yeah, that was really
cool.
Thanks, thanks.
Just having a structure like that to be able to talk, because he lived such a big life.
His life, it sprawls.
It's Hollywood.
It's broadcasting.
It's a member of the community.
It's his charitable work.
Anyway, I think that helped us, helped me get my head around, you know, being able to tell the story of such an incredible life in, you know, I think we did it in about 25 minutes.
Yeah, it was incredible.
Quick program.
Sean's going to be on Nightlight with Pete Schwabba tonight as well.
So big demand.
Kelly, go
ahead.
The pressure was there, but the payoff at the end was Bob Costas, Al Michaels, members of the Brewer staff, and Bob's son and family coming up to us afterwards, and either handshakes or hugs, and the compliments of, you got it.
You got him.
You showed him in a true manner to all the people here, and I don't think that'll ever go away.
I think that's super cool because having gotten to know you guys a little bit over the last couple of years, I know what reverence you have for people in the industry.
Even though for me, you guys are huge names in the industry.
I look up to you.
But to have people like Al Michaels, Bob Costas tell you guys you nailed it, that has to be better than any award you've ever gotten.
Without a doubt.
I mean, you know, when you have, listen, when you have somebody's family come up to you and say, thank you.
you know, that was perfect.
He can't, he can't do anymore.
I mean, that's, that was really the goal was to honor the man and honor his life.
And then yeah, when Bob Costas, Costas is like, you know, basically comes up to him and says, you know, you guys are the backbone of this entire celebration, what you've done is it's humbling, frankly, because when we sat there in the audience of, you know, for the private event, there were a thousand people there.
And I, Kelly and I beforehand said, you know, if the thousand people, you and I have spent the least amount of time with Uker of those thousand.
But we have to make a film that shows that, you know, we really, really understand, appreciate and love this man, all that he's done.
So.
A huge honor.
So well done.
I want to read you guys this quick.
This comes from our listener Jane in Madison listening on to be MDX this afternoon.
She writes this, I saw the movie just a bit outside in theaters last year and it led directly to a new interest in Brewer baseball this summer.
And what a year to adopt that team.
Enjoyed the film very much and recommended it to others.
It taught me that winning isn't always everything, but the journey can be.
Thank you.
I mean, wow, Kelly.
Kelly, what?
Oh, what do you want?
I
got nothing to say.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I think that's, I think Sean and I are dancing around the same thing.
That's what it's all about.
The feedback we've gotten both from the film and these Yooker videos, that's why we do this.
And words can be really powerful, and we've heard some powerful words from people.
30
seconds each.
What's the thing that you've seen recently and all the times you've seen it that you're seeing new and that people can watch it for free tonight?
John?
I mean, I think, you know, one of my favorite parts of the film is actually when Ted Simmons and Pete Vukovic talk about pitching.
There's a section in there where they talk about how to get hitters out that I could watch on a loop for the rest of my life It's so it's so inside baseball, but articulated so clearly that I think anybody walks out of the film But that's particular section understanding a bit more about the game So yeah, there's always a gem in there that I find that I look at as if it's for the first
Kelly call 25
seconds
I don't know that I see anything new, but emotionally I will catch or tear up in a different spot every time I watch it.
And it could be the Gorman saying, you know, thank the Lord.
I played here.
It could be the woman saying, hello, American League champion brewers.
Every time something new gets
me.
If you listen to us in Madison or Richland Center, you can watch the film just a bit outside the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers for free after the brewery game tonight on TVW 3.2.
Other places, Milwaukee, Wausau, Green Bay, La Crosse.
Stay tuned.
We'll we'll tell you, pass it on here when it becomes available.
It's coming to you.
Kelly Calls, Sean Hannes.
Thank you so much for taking time.
It means the world to us.
We'll
see you tomorrow, everybody.
Take
care.
Good afternoon, everybody.
Todd Alba along Mr. Aaron Zommers, our producer and engineer.
It is six minutes past the hour of two o'clock on this Tuesday, September 9th, 2025.
It's a great day to be a Wisconsinite.
Welcome in, everybody, to World Headquarters of Civic Media in downtown Madison, looking out on State Street right now.
We'll call it mostly sunny skies, some high clouds right now, but beautiful fall day.
It's going to be just right on schedule in terms of temperature and sun this week, maybe a little bit of clouds and rain Friday or Saturday.
But wow, it is just perfect fall weather, in my opinion right now.
Big show today, Zomers.
Can't wait.
How was your evening last night?
It was nice.
Yeah, big show today.
Really looking forward to it in hour number two.
And if you're watching on Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, and the like, and if you're not, why the heck aren't you?
No, I'm just kidding.
But if you're looking at the visuals today, we have the set dressed up in Brewer's Gears.
I'm Gears.
Gear.
I'm in my Brewer polo shirt today.
We have our t-shirt, our very limited edition.
just a bit outside t-shirt on the set right now.
I wore that to a couple of Brewer's games this year, and people come up and say, how can we buy that?
Sadly, not available yet.
However, you can watch the great film, Just A Bit Outside, the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers, tonight for free.
In hour two, we're gonna detail it and tell you exactly how, frontage the program.
Sean Hannish and Kelly call the director producer and producer respectively of this great film We're gonna be here talking about how you can see it tonight How you can watch the film for free tonight?
Also, they were a big part of the Bob Euker celebration of life at Ampham field a few weeks ago going to talk to them about what that experience was like So always great to catch up with Kelly and Sean and we'll do that in our number two of the brew crew
on the air on the radio tonight so you can watch it on television turn the sound down and listen to it on the radio always a great option great choice you can hear it tonight starting at 6 30 with a pregame show on the radio the first pitch just after seven o'clock in texas arlington texas the rangers hosting the brewers weird game last night crew lost five to nothing and uh jose can yon can tana was it was a
didn't pitch all that terribly, but just a couple of pitches.
One of them was a grand slam for for Texas.
And, you know, that's all it took.
So just kind of a weird game for for the Brewers last night feels like they're going to get back on track today.
Certainly hope they will.
Here's the good news, though.
The Brewers magic number in terms of winning the National League Central down to 11 as the Cubs lost again to Atlanta last night.
So the magic number for the crew down to 11 in the central, 13 is the magic number.
If they want to get the number one seed for the National League and the overall Major League Baseball seed as well.
In terms of just making the postseason, Brewer's magic number simply down to three.
So that's pretty much a foregone conclusion.
So lots of Brewer's talk coming up in our number two.
Also, what's worse today, a toasty addition.
in our two talking wheat versus white toast and coming up at the bottom of this hour, Lee sent some breader, assistant deputy director to the Wisconsin department of workforce development.
Bet you didn't know this.
It's the statewide department of workforce development month.
Gonna talk about jobs.
What's going on Wisconsin job wise.
My old boss Dale Schultz once said, and it's very pertinent today.
At the time I thought, what the heck does he mean?
But he, one time we were walking around the Capitol over lunch and he said, yeah, it's a real good time if you got a job to keep it.
And if you don't have a job, it's a good time to get one.
But I mean, in today's environment, pretty much true.
favors people looking for work better.
And it's like we have a lot of people are hiring.
Maybe you can take a risk.
But in this environment where, you know, jobs are getting tighter, I'd be a good job.
It might be a good time to keep it.
That's true.
Never a bad time.
I don't think to get a job today.
We'll be talking jobs after the, uh, after the bottom of the hour here.
Also going to play a cut from our friend, Dr. Kristen Lyrely.
You can hear the Kristen Lyrely show across, uh, well, um,
Couple of the stations on this network, but always via the Civic Media app.
You can listen to her at three o'clock in the afternoon on WISS out of Oshkosh on Saturday and Sunday in the show airs at 9 a.m.
On WGBW now playing music and a little bit of news as well.
I think doesn't doesn't Pete Schwab's program air on GB.
He survived We did not at GBW, but he survived
He's a hunker at Schwabba.
And also Dr. Liarley, you can hear her program.
Anyways, she's got some actual medical thoughts on Tylenol.
And the goofiness coming out of Washington and the U.S.
Department of Health and Human Services talking about Tylenol and pregnant women.
But here's where I want to start at 12 minutes past the hour of two o'clock for a Tuesday.
We have a new entry into the governor's race in the state of Wisconsin.
This from the Milwaukee Journal said they'll hope Karnop, great reporter, another Democrat is throwing their name into the ring as Wisconsin's 2026 race for governor heats up.
Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley formally launched his campaign today in an interview with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
Crowley joins Lieutenant Governor Sara Rodriguez in the Democratic primary field, though others are expected to jump in.
On the Republican side, manufacturing CEO Bill Barion and Washington County Executive Josh Schoeman have launched bids and U.S.
Rep Tom Tiffany.
is expected to announce soon.
Crowley said he wants to build on Democratic Governor Tony Evers' work using his legislative experience in the state capitol and leadership of the state's largest county.
Now, Crowley put out a video today announcing this.
And thank God I got Xamers around who understands things.
Because for the life of me, I was trying to find this video to play for y'all because we did the same thing when Lieutenant Governor Sara Rodriguez announced.
I mean, we played about a minute of hers.
We'll play about a minute of Crowley's.
And so I'm like, well, I'll go to the website.
Turns out, as near as we can tell, there is no Crowley for Governor website yet.
Yet.
So but Zommer's god love him found it.
Where'd you find it on on Twitter?
Not on his executive page, but on his
I Didn't grow up in the halls of power I grew up here and here
And here evicted three times as a kid having to pick up yourself and everything you own off the curb.
It'll break you or it'll make you.
I'm David Crowley and I didn't want any child to go through that.
So I became a community organizer.
I went on to serve in the state assembly where I saw what happens when extremists had total control and I'd had enough
So at 33, I returned home, elected to lead the largest county in Wisconsin, helping create thousands of new jobs, cutting our carbon emissions in half, balancing the budget, all while delivering the largest property tax cut in our history, and convincing Madison to return more money right back to every local community across the state.
But the progress we've made isn't nearly enough.
With cars shooting up, we're all getting less, even if you're making more.
And Donald Trump's chaos and cruelty means that the Wisconsin that we cherish will perish unless we unite and fight back.
So I've laid out my vision for a Wisconsin that works for everyone.
Stronger schools, safer streets, lower costs, and a lot more jobs.
You can watch the whole thing.
David C is in cat.
David C Crowley on X or Twitter, whichever you prefer.
And it wouldn't you know, I get it.
These things are our fast movie or whatever, but I hope that they put out a website soon.
So you can we also looked on YouTube, right?
We couldn't find like a YouTube channel or anything like that.
So other places had the had the video, but God love Aaron Zahmer is a great producer.
He found it.
And there for all of you, you're listening enjoyment.
David Crowley, Milwaukee County executive throwing his hat into the ring.
Back to the story by Hope Carnop.
at the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel where Crowley decided to announce and not, you know, not unexpected, state's largest newspaper.
And also the newspaper there for Milwaukee County as well.
A couple of sub headlines here from the Milwaukee Journal sent no, what is David Crawley's political experience at rights?
Well, in 2020, Crawley became Milwaukee's first black county executive and the youngest person to hold office.
His policies have included fighting the opioid crisis, creating more affordable housing and reducing carbon emissions.
He oversees a $1.4 billion with a B dollar budget.
in the county that's facing a $47 million deficit and looming financial trouble.
Crowley helped negotiate a shared revenue deal with Republicans in 2023 to avoid a financial crisis in the city and county.
Recently, Crowley has led the county's response to historic flooding that damaged homes, businesses, and public infrastructure
urging President Donald Trump to approve a disaster declaration and start the flow of federal aid before running for County Executive Crowley served served two terms in the state assembly.
His career in politics began as an organizer for Russ Feingold's U.S.
Senate campaign in 2010, aiming to boost Black voter turnout.
He also worked as a legislative aide to County Supervisor and State Senator Nakia Harris Dodd.
So there you go, a little background on our newest entry into the race for governor, David Crowley, Milwaukee County Executive, and many thanks to Luke Mathers, our director of operations here on the News Talk side.
We have secured Mr. Crowley to be on the show tomorrow at 3.35, but in fairness...
And you know, Pat Crite-Low is a friend of ours.
We'll plug that up.
I believe that Mr. Crowley and County Executive Crowley is going to be on mornings of Pat Crite-Low tomorrow morning.
So tune in between six and nine.
We'll find out the exact time.
We'll look at our content calendars and armors there.
We'll pass that along for people.
So two chances to hear Crowley live tomorrow.
Once on Pat Crite-Low's program, mornings of Pat Crite-Low in the morning and then at 3.35 tomorrow afternoon here on this program.
So that'll be a lot.
We appreciate it.
coming on, yeah, look at Zommer's right on top of it again, 8.50.
So it'll be 8.50 right at the very end of the program tomorrow.
So set your alarms, wake up the kids, 8.50 in the morning, tune in to mornings of pack right low across the Civic Media Ready Network or on the Civic Media app and you can hear his interview with...
Milwaukee County executive David Crowley, then we'll have the executive at 335 in the afternoon on our program.
Gonna be very interesting, can't wait to talk with him, have heard him on other programs, and guy who really understands politics, I think, really has been able to cut across different political lines in Milwaukee County, and gonna be very interesting now to see him go statewide.
And I, you know, there's, there's always the knock any candidate coming out of the Milwaukee area.
Oh, well, you just, you know, you don't understand the rest of the state.
It'll be interesting to see how he answers that question, how he's thought through that and how he might be already planning to inoculate himself from attacks from the Republican party who might view him as a threat.
So we'll talk with David Crowley tomorrow, Milwaukee County executive on entering the race for governor tomorrow.
at 335.
Come on back.
Gonna talk about the latest hubbub and brouhaha on Tylenol.
Is it safe for women?
We have a defendant of answer from our own Dr. Lirely.
She'll give you the details.
Not gonna wanna miss it.
Stay tuned on the All Balls Show in Sydney.
doing it welcome back the title ball show on the civic media ready network 22 now past the hour of two o'clock let me along across the state of Wisconsin from Lake Superior to Lake Michigan Green Bay to Mississippi River and all points in between couple other headlines for you on this Tuesday afternoon president Donald Trump says he will not comment on the Epstein birthday book letter he calls it quote-unquote a dead issue I bet he does
turned out this thing was released last night through a subpoena through Congress this birthday book that exists and A legend there's a drawing of there of apparently a naked woman and a message that Trump appeared to sign his name looks it's very squiggly and the way it was positioned is just gross that I mean it was supposed to be like her pubic hair his signature He denied that it existed now it's come forward
It appears allegedly to be real, and Trump now saying that it's fake.
Stay tuned for more on that.
Also, Apple announcing the new iPhone Air and iPhone 17 and new wearables.
I'm sure there's all kinds of stuff going on there.
And this is, and coming up in an hour or two, I'm gonna be talking to Kelly Call and Sean Hannish about their film just about a bit outside the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers, how you can watch it for free.
across broadcast television in Wisconsin tonight, following the Brewers versus the Rangers game.
And off the text line, you can text us as well on the Civic Media app, Manuel from Madison, listening to us on WMDX.
Manuel, thanks for the listen, appreciate that.
He says, I had a great time with my Apple TV crew in Pittsburgh on Friday.
I bought the maple syrup for the interview and after the game, Murph came to hang out with our crew at the hotel bar.
He's got a photo of it.
So that's super cool, Manuel.
A, thank you for listening to our little program here, and B, if you'd like, call in in hour number two when we're talking to Sean and Kelly.
Always great to have some insight there, because if you watch the Apple TV broadcast on a Friday, as I did, they're a great sideline performer, interviewer, and I apologize for not knowing her name off the top of my head.
She was the one that started the big pocket pancake thing with Murphy.
And on Friday of this week now he has a pocket quesadilla he pulled out and the sideline reporter pulled out some maple syrup Well, apparently Manuel is the one that bought that so how about that pretty cool.
All right, let's get to this quickly This from National Public Radio the Trump administration is planning a report this month that will reportedly link the use of a common painkiller acetaminophen
sold under the brand named Tylenol during pregnancy as well as certain vitamin deficiencies to autism spectrum disorder, despite lacking the scientific research to back up such claims.
This is just the latest controversy surrounding the actions of Health and Human Services Secretary
Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who has repeated unsupported claims, let me say that again, unsupported claims about autism in the past and promised to, quote, get to the bottom, unquote, of its cause.
And this is breaking today.
More news breaking up this hour of Kennedy releasing this, quote, make our children healthy again, promise, and tries to link Tylenol to autism.
Our very own Dr. Kristen Lierly put out
Word on this, a statement on Insta I believe yesterday, here are the facts of our very own Dr. Kristin Lierly.
It's all of our social media, so let's break it down.
I get it.
We all want answers about what causes autism.
I'm an OBGYN doctor, but I'm also a mom.
And I know that parents are desperate for information for something to explain something to prevent autism.
That desperation is completely understandable, and it's not new.
So here's what caught my attention.
Back in April, RFK Jr.
made this oddly specific promise that we'd know what causes autism by September.
How could anybody know that timeline?
That's just not how science works.
Look, there are theories.
There are associations.
Studies looking at acetaminophen or Tylenol use during pregnancy have suggested that there may be an association between acetaminophen, Tylenol use, and pregnancy.
But, association is not causation, and other studies have disproven this association.
So, in other words, we still don't know what causes autism, and it's likely multifactorial due to many different causes.
Here's what the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists actually says.
Any medication taken during pregnancy should be used only as needed in moderation and after consulting with your doctor.
That's it.
That's the guidance.
Not panic, not bans, just talk to your doctor, use what you need, and use it wisely.
Your health care provider knows your individual situation.
Random people on the internet making September predictions,
They don't.
Listen, there's a lot at stake here.
Please make sure you are getting solid evidence-based information that is tailored to your specific situation.
Your future literally depends on
Just check with your own doctor.
No reason to ban anything.
There's no actual evidence, scientific evidence that acetaminophen is causational or causes autism.
And this is why Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.
and the Trump administration are so dangerous when it comes to our health because they're allowing politics to drive the narrative on health and not science.
and not data and not research.
So talk with your actual doctor, folks, before you do any of this stuff.
Don't take a politician's word out in Washington, DC.
Talk to your local doctor about what's best for you.
Thank you, Dr. Lyleigh, for putting that out.
Gonna come back, talk about something else that's important, jobs.
with Lee Sensenbrenner, Assistant Deputy Secretary of the Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development.
But right now, time for Farm News with Pam Yankee at the Midwest Farm Report.
You're listening to the All Balls Show across Wisconsin on the Civic Media.
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Now 35 minutes past the hour of two o'clock on this Tuesday, September 9th.
Glad to have you long, decked out in our Brewer's gear here on the set.
Hour number two, we'll be talking with Kelly Call and Sean Hannish about their great film, Just A Bit Outside, which can be seen for free.
tonight, across many broadcast television stations in Wisconsin.
I'll give you details about that.
But joining us right now via StreamYard from Madison, all the way to Milwaukee Native, so he has a beautiful Milwaukee landscape behind him, is the Deputy Assistant Deputy Secretary of the Department of Workforce Development here in Wisconsin.
Lee Sensenbrenner joins us.
Deputy Secretary, thank you very much for being here.
How are you today?
Great, Dan.
How are you doing?
Doing wonderful.
Thank you so very much for asking.
This is timely.
Timely indeed, as Mike Lucas says, because the federal jobs numbers just got ticked down, turns out they were off by, you know, only a million.
And I think a lot of people are looking at the workforce right now saying, hey,
I need a better job, or I'm underemployed, I want a better paying job, or just looking for work out there.
So I know it's Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development Month, so very happy to have you for this discussion.
But as we do, with all of our guests appearing on the show for the first time, as we say, tell us a little bit about yourself, where you're from, and how you ended up in this position.
Sure.
Yeah.
Well, thanks a lot for having me.
I started off as a newspaper reporter.
I worked for the CapTimes and I got into government, I think as an extension of that, you know, you watch the issues and cover things.
And then I was part of the office of Governor Jim Doyle and then worked in a variety of state agencies and then
the University of Wisconsin-Madison and some private businesses.
Before I went back to state government, I was at the Department of Transportation for four or five years before coming to DWD, which I've been at for almost two years now.
Yeah.
And just to, you know, the elephant, the room for some people, they're gonna, you have a very famous last name, Sensenbrenner, and we don't have to go into the whole story, which you were telling off the air before we got on, but you're not directly related to, as they used to call Big Jim, former U.S.
Congress, but Jim Sensenbrenner, but you kind of have some short, short tail relation to the, the Sensenbrenner name in the Milwaukee
area.
Yeah, that's right.
I mean, everybody asks the course, so I'm happy to, okay.
take care of the elephant in the room is called it um yeah I mean there was a mayor too in the 80s and Madison Joe Sensenbrenner and both Joe and Jim are direct descendants of a guy named Frank Sensenbrenner who
came back from World War One with all these ideas.
He was working for Kimberly Clark, and in World War One, they had something called the sell you cotton.
he thought, well, there's uses for this.
We're going to take this to market.
And Kimberly Clark launched Cotex and Kleenex, which became huge, huge products.
And so that really propelled the family.
But I'm not directly descended from Frank Sensenbrenner.
I'm related to his brother, who
died at a young age.
The story, it could be, uh, fake, but they said he fell off a ladder or something.
So that's
no benefits,
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
Yeah, and yeah, that was fantastic.
I mean, I still go up and ski the Berkabiner with my friends
are fellow rowers.
So yeah, it's a tremendous experience.
If anyone's out there listening or their kids are interested in rowing, go for it.
It's a wonderful sport, especially at UW Madison.
And I love going down, especially this time of year, going down to Memorial Terrace in either the morning or the afternoon and watch the boats and practice, whatever.
It's quintessential Madison this time of year.
But anyway, as they say, that's not why you're called.
We're talking with Assistant Deputy Secretary Lee Sensenbrenner of the Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development.
As we said, it is.
Department of Workforce Development Month, tell us, Deputy Secretary Sensenbrenner, what does that mean and what, so what are you trying to get the word out, particularly this month?
Yeah, yeah, Governor Evers declared it, Workforce Development Month, it kind of, you know, I think too, this time of year, you just kind of feel a sense of energy, school starting, the air changes, and it's a time where we're, I mean, all throughout the year, we're helping people get jobs, but
Starting tomorrow, we have what we call Workforce Wednesdays, which are at all of our job center locations.
We've got more than two dozen job centers across the state.
And so they'll be hosting Workforce Wednesdays to help people connect.
We've got career navigators to kind of look at people's resumes and see opportunities and help guide them to either getting a job, finding a better job.
I think a lot of people
It's a time that a lot of people can use some help, so we're ready to assist.
Sure.
I mean, some of the some of the job centers are standalone offices.
Some of some of them are in libraries.
So they're integrated into community and we work with workforce development areas.
We've got, you know, local people who understand the job markets and can assist.
And we also work with employers too, because a lot of times employers, especially last year, it was really tight labor market.
So they're looking for people to hire.
So it goes both ways.
They can help recruit and they can help.
point people in directions where there are real opportunity.
And part of that too is apprenticeship programs too can be a great thing if you're looking to go into a different career or explore new options.
But yeah, I mean, you hit it really on the head.
I mean, being integrated in the community and developing relationships with employers and finding people who are looking for jobs is a key part of the...
job center staff.
So, you know, I think you get, hunting for a job can be pretty lonely and frustrating, right?
And so the job centers are a chance to actually talk with a person who has expertise and years of helping people navigate this.
So it's worth checking out.
And like I said, those workforce or the workforce Wednesdays from
10 to noon starting tomorrow and then going for the next few weeks are a great opportunity.
And they are listed on our website.
If you just Google DWD or Job Centers in Wisconsin, you'll hit them.
We're talking with Assistant Deputy Secretary at Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development, Lee Sensenbrenner via StreamYard here.
Mr. Deputy Secretary.
I've looked for jobs later.
I mean, I'm 55.
I've been at this job for a little over three years, going on three years.
But I was in my 40s, near 50, looking for a different job or finding myself unemployed.
For me, it was done.
the whole thing now everybody wants to do everything you know the the in-person interview is almost gone you have to find this internet finding the camera making it look good having the online interview and also now all the resumes are electronic so are there things that that these job centers could help people of any age in putting together an electronic resume and doing uh online interviews
Yeah, that's exactly it.
I mean, what if it's been 10 years since you since you looked for your last job?
The landscape could be completely unfamiliar, right?
I mean, all kinds of things like you just touched on how to make your resume stand out in this age.
And, you know, there could be people who've never done an online interview, you know, completely foreign.
So to practice that and to, you know,
do the setup, run through some things.
I think that's exactly kind of the things that the staff at DWD is ready to help
I find that just great because it's very intimidating when you get to a certain age and you're competing with 20 and 30 something.
This is all just second nature to them.
And you're going, wait, last time I was in the job force, I had a two page paper resume that I either brought it or mailed in.
And it's just very, very different.
Also, in terms of where do you look for a job?
Again, when I was growing up, you go to the Sunday Wisconsin State Journal and everything's posted there.
Are there aggregate websites or just DWD have a way that someone can say, hey, if I'm looking for a job in ex-vocation, where can I just find out where those jobs are located?
Yeah, Job Center of Wisconsin does a good job of aggregating a lot of jobs.
We try to capture as many as we can.
That's kind of, you know, you talked about the Sunday State Journal or, you know, the Journal Sentinel, I mean.
Yeah.
Right, right, right.
So, yeah, we're trying to build that kind of system where you can kind of see all the options that might be out there for
So on the other side of things, if you're an employer and, you know, Wisconsin is fortunate we have a relatively low.
unemployment work rate.
How does DWD work with employers, job creators to help them find workers because I hear from people trying to find, hey, I can't find quote unquote qualified people out there.
Right.
Yeah, that's a great question.
And there's a lot of different approaches to that.
And part of it, I mean, part of it too depends on training workers for the for the jobs that an employer might need, right?
And that's why we've seen I think
tremendous growth and apprenticeship programs.
We've had record apprenticeship participation in the last few years, each year higher and higher.
So I think training workers to fit employers' needs is one way.
We've got a lot of grants out there that help build skills that are in high demand for the workforce.
But I mean, it is a constant area of focus where we're looking at how it can help.
both sides you know talent meets opportunity and a lot of it's very you know very direct one-on-one trying to meet employers needs and find out how we can help.
the person who's looking for a job who hasn't maybe in 15 years or so.
Let's touch a little bit more on this Wisconsin apprenticeship program because I think it's just really, really exciting.
As cost of education, it goes higher.
It might be inaccessible to some people.
Are these situations where if you have a skill and are willing to put in the sweat, you can go right into an apprenticeship program?
Are they just blue collar jobs or also like tech, IIT computer things?
Yeah, it's really broad now I mean maybe people think of apprenticeship and they think of the building trades or other trades and those are certainly like very strong and and sought after apprenticeships they continue to grow But but now we've got apprenticeships and in all kinds of fields for anything you said health healthcare or you said it but also healthcare and You know the apprenticeship too is really growing we have
youth apprenticeships and law enforcement and firefighting and, you know, the scope of apprenticeship in Wisconsin has a tremendous history in apprenticeship.
We were an early state to the first state really to launch the apprenticeship model and we continued to just build and build and look for new pathways and new ways to let people earn as you learn, you know, because it's really
a model where you don't have to take on enormous student debt that you can keep paying your bills and gain a career.
I think that so often state government gets knocked for.
What do they actually do?
Well, here's a great example at Department of Workforce Development where you're doing real things in communities to help both people find work.
and employers find qualified workers.
And through these apprenticeship programs, you're not asking people to put out thousands of dollars necessarily in education, which people might not have.
So I applaud you.
I applaud the department and the governor for doing this.
Assistant Deputy Secretary of Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development, Lee Sensenbrenner.
Thank you very much for taking time with us today.
And I would encourage everybody to go on the DWD website and learn more.
Well, thanks Todd, and thanks for all your attention to workforce issues, and this has been a pleasure.
Thanks very
Welcome back to the top of all show on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Eight minutes now before the hour of 30 o'clock.
Glad to have you along on a Tuesday, September 9th, 2025, Zomers on the board.
Many thanks to Assistant Deputy Secretary Lee Sensenbrenner, Wisconsin Department of Workforce Development.
Now there, that's some good things that you could actually use.
Cause I know when I was looking, I've been looking for jobs at different points of my life.
It could be very.
very intimidating.
And I'm not here to tell you, and I don't think the Assistant Deputy Secretary was either.
You might not find every answer at the Department of Workforce Development website or their job centers, but it's a start.
And I think when you're out of work and you're looking for work, you just need somebody to help start you out.
And so I would encourage people to go to the DWP website and start there.
Many thanks for him taking his time.
Now, this is fantastic.
People say, Todd,
Do you enjoy your job?
And I say I love it and one of the reasons is we're live You never know who's gonna stop by you never know who's gonna be listening and this is fantastic as earlier in the show if you're with us I already text from one of our listeners and well listening here in Madison on WM DX because an hour number two as you can see from the set we're gonna have our friends Kelly call and Sean Hannes from just a bit outside the story that I did 82 walkie-brewers on and Manuel texted in and said he is on the Apple
Plus TV crew, which I subscribe to and I watched the game on Friday and he said that Pat Murphy hung out with the crew after the game and now he's joining us via the telephone Manuel from Apple Plus TV with the Brewer's crew.
Manuel, how are you?
Hey, I'm doing well.
How are you?
Yeah, so this is my third year with them.
I'm actually a vendor for them working through MLB TV for them as a RF engineer and Yeah, we have a great team a great crew and Trisha did the pocket pancake interview of course it went viral and we were all excited and then we had the Brewers come up again in Pittsburgh so the producer was like well
What do you think about like maple syrup?
I was like, yeah, we're going to get some in Wisconsin and bring it for for us.
And that's that's how that happened.
Yes, the most comes up with the food idea He told us that he was gonna do something in the interview interview in DC when he pulled up the pocket pancake we didn't know what it was and This time we also had no idea, but we had the maple syrup and I think Trisha did a really great job playing along
Yeah, it was incredible.
So we were just at the hotel bar at the Renaissance as a team Spillie our analyst had his birthday and all of a sudden we see this bus stop up front and we're like wait, does the team stay here?
Somebody comes out and then the bus carries on and we realize it's Merv walking into the hotel just to come hang out with us.
It was incredible.
You know what incredible he did not drink he bought his own drink probably a Gatorade Didn't want us to buy anything for him.
He just hung out with Trisha and our field producer and I asked him You know if I could take a picture with him and he asked me I had a brewers hat on as you can see in the photo And
said who's your favorite Brewer and I said you know you are Let me guess and it was interesting because he guessed who my favorite Brewer was and he said sell self relic really and
And I thought it was interesting because in a sense I'm kind of thinking...
I wonder if he was trying to tell me who his favorite one was, but he can't really say that.
Right.
That's fantastic.
Cause my friends that know me know that South Relic is also my favorite brewer on the team.
I just think he's fantastic.
And I like his work ethic and he's, he's hitting like fire right now.
And, and you know that Murph has, he's always teasing and arousing South Relic.
So yeah, maybe there is kind of a, a cool relationship there.
Uh, so are you, are you, are you, obviously you must follow other teams if you're on the Apple plus.
team.
You don't just do the brewers.
You do each of these games on Friday.
Correct.
Yeah.
We're going to be in Seattle this coming Friday.
Then Kansas City and Boston and then it's time for me to jump to Fox for the postseason.
Wow.
Yeah, so it's the RF infrastructure that I set up and I've been doing that since 2019 in Madison.
I also run a fair trade nonprofit called Ethical Trade Co.
We've actually been out with Rocker and Jimmy several times here throughout the program.
So that's another thing I do here in Madison as well.
And again, this is why I love doing this program because we have great listeners like yourself and you never know who you're going to talk to.
Let's make sure that Zommerz, my producer, has your contact info.
Let's keep in touch because we'd love to have you come in and talk a little bit longer sometime because I've learned that oftentimes it's the people on the cruise, whether it's TV or radio, who can really have the best insight into some of these events.
And I'm sure you've got a lot of stories from all your
travels over the years, Manuel?
Oh yeah, I would absolutely love that.
So if we get to hang out, Todd, that'd be wonderful.
Let's make sure that stay on the line.
Live Zomers, get your contact info.
Manuel from Apple Plus TV, who hung out with Murph and brought the syrup for the case of Dia.
How cool is that?
Safe travels, Manuel, out to Seattle.
My god, one of my godsons lives out there.
It's a great city and a great stadium.
So safe travels out there.
We'll be watching on Friday night.
Perfect.
Thank you so much.
Come on back.
Hour number two is straight ahead.
Going to start off with some some news of two Marquette athletes who were killed this past week.
Going to honor them as well.
And then later on in the hour, our old friends, Sean, Anish and
Kelly Call, from just to been outside.
We'll talk about the movie, which is going to be shown for free across Wisconsin television style.
Big hour number two.
Come on back.
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Good afternoon, everybody.
Todd Allbaugh, along with our producer and engineer, Mr. Aaron Zommers, on the board.
It's six minutes past the hour of three o'clock.
Welcome into hour number two of the big broadcast here on Tuesday, September 9th, 2025.
And it's a great day to be in Wisconsinite.
Glad to have you along at the World Headquarters of Civic Media on State Street at the intersection of state.
and Fairchild overcast skies and high clouds.
We have time to take a little look at the Sam Davidson street cam, Mr. Zomers.
Look at that there.
People traversing the the street, going up State Street right now.
Got a little jacket weather.
Look, a yellow cab.
You don't see those many, many times very often anymore.
A yellow cab, making its way on Fairchild there.
You see the lovely Overture Center on the right hand side of the screen there.
Leaves, you could just tell.
Here on State Street a hint of yellow just a hint just a hint in some of those either box elder trees or something like that But a beautiful day here in Madison University, Wisconsin Madison, of course as well a great day to get out all across the state of Wisconsin Brittany Merleau and our weather team says Maybe a chance of rain Friday and Saturday in some parts of the state but all in all pretty seasonal seasonal great time to get outside and enjoy
the weather.
Great to have you along.
Big hour this hour at the bottom, just after the farm news of Pam Yankee, friends of the program, Sean Hannish and Kelly Call, the producer and director and producer, respectively, of just a bit outside the store of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers great film released last year at Marcus Theaters.
And then it has been streaming on Roku and.
Amazon Prime, I believe Apple Plus TV as well.
And now tonight, because a lot of people have told me not a lot.
Some people have told me, well, I don't have any of those things.
There's too much work.
Well, guess what?
Most people have a television and rabbit ears or basic cable.
And tonight is your night if you haven't seen it to see just a bit outside for free after the Brewer's game.
Gonna talk with Sean and Kelly and tell you how.
at the bottom of this hour.
Don't forget the brewers over the radio tonight.
Great.
You could you could watch on the TV, turn this volume down and listen to the crew on the radio.
You could do so on the Milwaukee Brewers Radio Network, starting at 6 30 with a pregame show.
First pitch just after seven o'clock from Arlington outside of Dallas.
The Rangers hosting the crew Rangers, as Clemens said, during the break there, Rangers beat the crew.
five, nothing last night.
You can hear the game, though, tonight on RCE and Richland Center, on WISS in Oshkosh, WCQM in Park Falls, and now on WBZH in beautiful Hayward, Wisconsin.
Also going to do a What's Worse for You, coming up here in just a couple of minutes as well.
But first, at nine minutes past the hour of three o'clock, if you would indulge me.
And I don't do this too often, I don't think.
But.
One of the great privileges of having a radio program like this is you're able to pay tribute to people that you respect, that you love, and that you know.
And if you would allow me just a couple of moments to tell you about my friend Linda Gentis and give my condolences to her husband, Hank, Newenhaus, and her friends and her family.
Linda passed away, Linda Gentis, in Richland Center.
over this past weekend and has now been made public after a brief illness.
And for those that have listened and watched this program over the last almost three years, you've heard me talk about her.
She's been on the program.
She was very active.
She was a member of the county board up until recently, and she was integral to the University of Wisconsin-Richland campus.
And no one fought harder to keep that campus open than Linda Gentis.
I first got to know her in the late 80s, 1988, when I was a freshman at UW Richland, the fall.
She ran the Central American Scholarship Program locally at the campus.
And she was in charge of welcoming the students from all over Central America, usually about 16 students every year.
And she would welcome them.
She would be the liaison to help find local host families for the students of which our family was one.
And then she would help them get registered for classes.
She would kind of be their counselor because they came here most of these students with little or no English.
And so you could imagine how difficult it was to integrate into families as well as being taught
College level classes and the professors were most of them were not fluent or knew little of any Spanish So they were being taught at the same pace as native English speakers and they had to survive and no one did a better job of mentoring of counseling and changing lives including my own than Linda Gentis If it had not been for her commitment to this program
I would never have met my friends from Central America.
The person who ended up being the mother of my god sons, I would not have my god sons.
Some of my closest friends, people who are family to me.
And it was all due to Linda Gentis taking the bull by the horns and saying, I will make this program succeed.
I will oversee it.
And yes, former of the late great Dr. Tom Oates was the dean who helped bring this program here.
It was administered through Georgetown.
Former Republican U.S.
Senator from Wisconsin, you heard me talk about it before, Bob Casten was one of the authors in Congress in a bipartisan way that helped fund this program.
They brought these kids from poor families in Central America who were brilliant students.
and brought them to the U.S.
in a full ride for two years to learn either business or computer science with the requirement that they return home to their families for at least two years in Central America.
And you can imagine growing up in a town of 5,000 people in Southwest Wisconsin, predominantly white at the time, still is, I guess, predominantly white, to bring in folks from Central America was life-changing.
And I think that anybody
who was a part of this program in my hometown or other places.
It was other places in Wisconsin as well, other two-year campuses, uh, Rice Lake, for instance, uh, Marathon, uh, Wasaw, Fox Valley, that we as Wisconsinites learned more from them than I think that they ever did from us.
And it would have never happened without people like Linda Gentis and it would have never happened at Richland County.
without Linda Gentis.
And her passing this weekend rather unexpectedly after a brief illness is sad to me.
And it breaks my heart for, especially for her husband, Newen House, another great guy, another great person.
But her legacy, what she is going to be remembered for in my mind is all of the lives, including my own, that were made better.
because of Linda, Gentis, and her work.
And at the end of the day, what better legacy can any of us have than knowing that we change people's lives for the good and for the better, and it's incumbent upon each of us, I feel, to continue that legacy and pass that along.
My heart goes out to my friend Linda Gentis and her family.
and her husband Linda Gentes was 76 years old.
It's 15 now past the hour of three o'clock.
This from WISN channel 12 in Milwaukee.
Marquette is mourning Marquette University mourning the loss of two of its student athletes who were killed in a crash on Friday evening.
The university says 20 year old Noah Snyder
and 19-year-old Scott Bachaud died, and two other teammates were hurt.
Milwaukee police arrested a 41-year-old driver of the other vehicle in the crash.
A Milwaukee police search warrant obtained by 12 News Investigates late on Monday shows the woman admitted to drinking two, quote, steel reserves, unquote, a type of malt liquor before the crash.
Jail records and the search warrant show
Police refer to charge while operating while intoxicated, causing death.
As of today, the Milwaukee County District Attorney's Office has not charged the woman who was booked into the Milwaukee County Jail on Sunday.
WISN Channel 12 news is not naming her.
The search warrant states that the woman was driving a Ford Ranger north on 27th Street near St.
Paul Avenue at the time of the crash.
Six others.
were to silver Jeep Grand Cherokee according to the search warrant at the same intersection with the two collided.
Snyder and Machoud were both passengers in the car.
The search warrant states that the woman quote had slurred speech and the odor of intoxicants were emanating from her breath and later admitted to consuming alcohol prior to the collision on quote.
police also performed a field sobriety test which, quote, was positive signs of impairment were observed, unquote.
Marquette President, the Marquette President that has opened a panel on education Monday afternoon by addressing the crash saying, quote, you kind of worked your way through it, but you don't expect it to happen, especially when they're still young.
He said the most important thing for us right now is to learn and lean into our Catholic Jesuit traditions to be present for our students to help them through the healing process.
Most folks know, no bigger cardinal and white Badger fan than me, but today I offer my deep condolences, my thoughts, my prayers, my heartfelt wishes for the entire Marquette University community and all of the students and families.
who lost two young men, Noah Snyder and Scott Bichaud, who had their whole life ahead of them, who are members of the, I believe the La Crosse, Marquette University La Crosse team.
And seemingly through no fault of their own, because seemingly allegedly a drunk driver decided to get behind the wheel and ruined two young men's lives.
It is a sad and unfortunate but good reminder to all of us to think before we get behind the wheel of the vehicle.
If you feel buzzed, if you've been doing things other than drinking, all of that can lead to limited ability to drive safely.
And when you read stories like this,
All it takes is one mistake behind the wheel to affect other people's lives forever.
A sad but good reminder to all of us.
I apologize if we started the hour off on a couple of less than upbeat stories, but I think it's really important to take the time to think about these things and remember them.
as well.
We're gonna come up here, gotta do a little business, as they say.
Gonna turn the page, come back, we'll do a quick rendition of our what's worse today.
I'll give you a hint.
It involves toast.
And who doesn't like toast?
I do.
particularly with strawberry and rhubarb jam.
So we'll come back, talk about toast, wheat toast, or white toast, and then stick around because at the bottom of the hour, our old friends of the program, Sean Hannish and Kelly Call, are going to be along and talk about their great film, Just A Bit Outside, and the brew crew.
What was it like at the Euker Celebration of Life, being the ones putting together the video content with all the celebrities and family there?
We'll ask them that as well.
Stick around, the all ball show continues for Tuesday on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Network now 22 past the hour of three o'clock on a Tuesday, September 9th going to talk baseball after the bottom of the hour.
Brew crew in action tonight down in Texas.
You can hear the pregame show at 6 30.
The first pitch just after seven o'clock.
You can watch it for free on many.
Network stations across Wisconsin and then stick around for just a bit outside the store.
The 1982 Milwaukee Brewers going to talk with John Hannish and Kelly Call about that after the bottom of the hour.
But right now at 23 past, time was singing for what's worse.
Let's go.
Time once again for what's worse.
Nothing to give away, no prize.
What he involved is your chance to have your voice heard on all 10 news, talk, and sports network stations of the Civic Media Ready Network.
All right, timely, timely indeed as our friend, well, we hope, we hope he's our, I'm going to see them tonight.
Mike Lucas and Tom Oates as part of the Ideas Fest, which is part of the Capital Times there.
Anyway, this is the time of year.
where you wake up in the morning and you think to yourself, it's just, sometimes it's the smell of foods that get me, not just the taste.
And for me, toast in the morning.
So today, on a fall day, the category today is white toast or wheat toast.
What's worse, white toast or wheat toast?
Now, Zommer says the song that you played is by bread.
Yeah, very good.
Make it with you by bread.
Well, I mean, it's always fun to make toast together with other people at a toast party.
What's worse, white toast or wheat toast?
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What's worse, white toast or wheat toast?
eight five five seven five two four eight four two eight five five seven five two four eight four two let's go to beautiful mount horrib troy our good listener listening on w ix or mdx pardon me w mdx in madison troy mount horrib troy white toast or wheat toast what's worse
good afternoon god and zammers uh what's worse is white toast
White bread's just an awful thing, and it's got no, no value whatsoever.
wow.
One of my earliest memories, my grandma and I used to, so this was before.
You know, I was like four, three or four.
My grandma and I used to eat breakfast together and we'd eat toast with peanut butter on it and dip it in our coffee.
that's great.
Yeah.
And she always had that.
What is it?
Honey nut?
yeah.
It's got like an orange label.
Yeah.
You know, so.
We used to eat that morning.
Oh, maybe.
Yeah.
honey wheat.
Oh, maybe.
You had the
forget.
memory.
Yeah.
I remember everything but the name of the brand.
But I remember it was Honey Wheat.
Right.
I appreciate you calling in.
Appreciate listening as always.
Have a great day out there.
Hey, you two out there, a beautiful Montaur.
What's worse, white toast or wheat toast?
855-752-4842.
855-752-4842.
Casper, one of our great engineers, listening on MDX says, I don't have a huge preference.
What's worse than both of those things is waking up at 4 a.m., like I did this morning, having a faint smell of burnt toast.
I thought I was having a stroke what wow be careful out there says a sign of
What's worse?
White toast or wheat toast 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 Mary
out in Mount Horror, listening on MDX says, in case Zomers isn't familiar with the song, I would say White as Wheat at least has some nutritional value.
People are always saying, what do you like most?
I don't want a brand.
I always tell him I like to What's what's worse white toast or wheat toast Matt what if I great UPS drivers out there Matt Milts I should say wheat is better as I think white has more sugar and no taste Though both are rich, so we should not be have too much of either.
All right, Mike
Brand new listener in Madison on WMDX.
Thanks, Mike, for tuning us in here in the Mad City.
Mike says, I do both.
But when you serve toast, it has to be brown or dark brown.
Otherwise, it's just warm bread.
There should be a fine for people who serve warm bread instead of toast.
I might be with you on that one.
There is something to be said for that.
You want it to be toasty.
Heather Nocler, WCFW on Facebook says, I love bread.
the band and the carbs.
There really isn't a worse, maybe a dry plain white toast is worse, but I like it all.
I don't like too many seeds, but I like here in Madison, the Clawson's, I think it's country or like a French country crackdown.
That is good bread, yeah.
Yeah, that's really good.
Although I will say there is a cause for like white bread for French toast or something like that.
So anyway, I would say that white is worse.
All right, there's nothing worse about Kelly Collins, Sean Hamish or their film, just a bit outside.
We'll talk to them after this.
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Welcome back to the Tallel Ball show on the Civic Media Radio Network 35 minutes now past the hour of three o'clock on this Tuesday, September 9th, 2025.
If that music sounds familiar, it might be because you're a fan of just a bit outside the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers, not just a great visual film, but the music.
The vibes about it, it takes you right back to 1982 for those of us who are old enough to remember that.
And in my opinion, as someone who lived through 82, I haven't felt vibes like this for the Brewers since then, and it's a special season today.
And if you have not seen just a bit outside the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers, I ran into somebody, by the way, this weekend, who the film came up, and they said, I just haven't had time yet.
All right, no more excuses because tonight, ladies and gentlemen, across Wisconsin, you can see it for free and here to tell us all about it and to talk about the film, our friends of the program, Sean Hannish and Kelly Call, the director, producer and producer of Just a Bit Outside, the store, the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers.
Sean, Kelly, welcome back to the program.
Thanks for being here.
Great to be here, Todd.
It's always fun.
Guys, lots to catch up on, but...
Let's make sure we get to it because I want to make this is really the thrust you guys put on back on today is we got this release that the movie is going to be shown tonight for those who.
Don't know or don't follow the Brewers every day.
First of all, what's wrong with you?
But I got to get this quick plug out.
You can listen, turn down the television and listen to it on the radio.
The Brewers taking on the Texas Rangers tonight at 630 for the pregame show, the Radio Side first pitch at seven o'clock.
You can hear it on WRCE and Richland Center, WISS and Oshkosh, WRJN, Racine Kenosha and WCQ in Park Falls and WBZH and Hayward, our Brewers affiliates here at Civic Media.
But guys, this doesn't happen very often now with all the different rights and everything, but Sean, it's going to be shown tonight on several broadcast stations, the FanDuel feed, correct?
We were just thrilled when our friends at Good Karma came and said, hey, we want to put this across the state in actual, like, over-the-air free TV broadcast, which, I mean, it's amazing.
You need to think that people can now just turn on their television.
You check their local listings, turn on their television.
And within this week and next week, you're gonna be able to actually watch the film on TV, you know?
No need to go to the theater, no need to worry about an app.
It's right there for you.
You know how these things work better than anyone else.
How did you guys come upon this and make this happen?
And before you answer that, let me give you...
folks the station we'll come back to it in Milwaukee for those listening on our station WAUK in Milwaukee you can see it on CBS 58 that's WMLW for our friends here in Madison that listen to us on WMDX you can watch it on Channel 3000 WISC TV or TVW in Wausau WSAW in Green Bay WGBA and WACY and in La Crosse WKBT Kelly
How does this happen that you guys got this film on broadcast television in Wisconsin?
Well, I think, I think we start first with a disclaimer, which as they say, check your local listings because they are not all airing at once.
The one we know tonight is TV Wisconsin out of Madison, which is a part of WISC, but that's, I believe it's channel 3.2 tonight.
Correct.
And they're airing the game and it's right on after the game.
We know we are on WMLW tomorrow in Milwaukee.
I think that's at 630.
And the rest of the state will kind of come up when it comes up.
To be honest, we had a couple of stations approach us and asked us, hey, we saw your movie.
How can we air it?
And as opposed to us going from station to station to station,
We reached out to the good people at Good Karma and said, you already have a brewers contact with several TV stations.
Would it be possible to work together to essentially help clear us throughout this, you know, all over the state versus us going one by one by one?
They jumped right on it.
And the other kind of interesting twist here, they came back and asked, what if we aired on some of our Good Karma radio stations?
And we were kind of like,
Okay, I guess.
And then, you know, Sean and I went in and, you know, kind of closed our eyes and listened and it was like, it kind of works on the radio too.
So we'll see.
I'm excited about this, and like I said, I know Civic, we here have some of these Brewer affiliates as well, and I hope at some point we can get it on those stations across Wisconsin as well.
But just to reiterate, for people listening to our show now in Madison, and also to be for our listeners on WRCE and Richland Center, they also get Channel 3 here out of Madison.
If you have the old rabbit ears, go to, as Kelly said, it's 3.
One or two trip from 3.2 digitally or if you have like YouTube or or direct TV.
It's TV W
on there so you can watch it either way.
Sean, tell us a little bit about the excitement and the air around this film.
I mentioned I'm getting all the vibes I got from 82, but then you add in the celebration of life for Bob Euker recently.
And I know you guys were asked to put together the video for the in stadium presentations.
I mean, you know, releasing this movie in theaters last fall during, you know, that great, you know, great run to the playoffs.
And then, you know, obviously, listen with it with Bob Buker passing and all of the outpouring of love and affection from the community and frankly, from around the country.
You know, I believe, you know, again, it's all things bruised.
Kelly and I were really given the honor of creating the
films for the Bob Uker Celebration of Life, both the private one back in April and also the public one that was a couple weekends ago in Milwaukee at the American Family Field.
I mean, that was a real honor.
I think, certainly for me, it's one of the greatest honors that you can have as somebody who puts together films and narrative to say, would you put together the story of Bob Uker?
I mean, how do you do that?
I know I was floating for about five minutes and then I was like, oh my god, that's a real responsibility.
We have
to do this and it has to be great.
This is one you can't phone in.
I couldn't be prouder of what we put together.
In the stadium, it was a really spectacular and special day to hear people, you know, 42,000, have you ever heard 42,000 people laughing at the same time?
I haven't.
And then have you ever heard a pin drop with 42,000 people?
It was an incredibly special day and we were just so thrilled to be a part of it.
But going back to the season,
I personally haven't felt Brewer's energy like this since 82.
We've had good seasons, you know.
2018 was a really good season, maybe, you know, NLCS.
You know, Team Streak was a really fun season, but no season like this.
And I think there were a lot of similarities between, you know, Harvey Keen and Murph.
There's a lot of similarities between a guy like Robin Yant and Christian Yellich.
Um, I think, you know, but, but most, most of all, the palpable excitement for going to the stadium or turning on the game right now, it's, it's, it's at a fever pitch.
And one of the great things about live broadcasting, we had a guy listening to the show earlier named Manuel, who is one of the engineers on Apple plus TV and he happened to be, and he called in and we talked to him last hour and, uh, was talking about the fact that that.
Pat Murphy was the one that came up with a whole pancake, a pocket pancake idea
I mean, listen, the pop pocket pancake is epic, you know, but also the brewers, let's be honest, the brewers.
Haven't missed a beat.
Yeah, either in the front office or with the organization I mean that amazing home run derby they had at the end of July I mean David, you know the team is great on the field and the way that the the organization is handling everything off the field.
I mean
I just I count my lucky stars that I'm a brewers fan this year.
Yeah, we're talking with Sean Hannes and Kelly Call the director producer and producer respectively of just a bit outside the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers.
You can see it if you're listening to us in Madison original and center on the CBS affiliate, at least their secondary channel, TVW.
That's 3.2 digitally after the brewers game tonight, which is going to be shown for free on that channel and more stations.
as they say to come.
I want to ask you both to start with Kelly and then to Sean.
Sean, I'll preface it for those that don't know, Sean founded a company called Cannonball Productions.
You've worked with people like Mini Driver and let's start with Kelly.
As former president of CBS, you were some of the biggest names entertainment Kelly in your time at CBS.
But what was it like for both of you?
to have the honor to do this work for Bob Euker, someone who is a childhood legend.
And you guys, as Wisconsinites, got to do this.
And you got Bob Costas there, a huge name of broadcasting.
Al Michaels, I know is around.
What was it like for your standpoint that working from the biggest names in the industry to this, Kelly?
I think just...
you have to set aside wanting to kind of pinch yourself that, hey, I'm with this person and remind yourself at the same time, you know, we have a job to do.
And I'll share this with the, especially about the Euker interview.
You know, Bob had been on the Tonight Show, you know, 100 times or whatever.
And Bob kind of would lock into these kind of stories about...
his life and we had to kind of keep pulling Bob.
We only had limited time.
We had to kind of keep pulling him back to 82, you know, like Bob, that's great.
82, 82.
And we got done and we looked at each other and we said, well, okay, it's we got what we needed.
It was a little rambling, but we got what we needed.
And then when the brewers called and said, you know, asked us to do these videos, the first thing we did was went back and, you know, looked at this interview we had done.
And I guess without us realizing it,
And I'm not like super spiritual or anything, but Bob handed us the story of his life on a silver platter in his own words.
And, you know, people were like, how did you get, how did you get all this?
And it was like we, we just interviewed him and we had kind of one of the last interviews with him, but he gave us everything we needed to kind of do this assignment.
And, you know, whether, whether he knew it or not, I don't know, but there was.
There was a little
Aaron Zahmer, our great producer, has something queued up here.
I know that what was shown in Ampham Field, what we might have seen on FanDuel, might have been a little different, but I know this is you guys' stuff, because here's part of that interview that's in just a bit outside the story of the 1982 Brewers, and Sean and Kelly's one of their last interviews with Bob Euker.
This is from the Celebration of Life.
The St.
Louis Cardinals take on the Yankees in the World Series.
Johnny Keenan formed the coaching staff that I would not play in the World Series because of that incident where I picked the tuba up and was walking around.
They had three Dixieland bands on the field playing prior to World Series.
And Roger Craig was standing alongside of me.
And the band that was playing in left field
put their instruments down.
So there's a tuba laying up against near the bullpen.
So Roger says, you go put that on.
So I grabbed this guy's tuba, and I was catching fly balls.
I dented it.
First I tried to get a trumpet on, and that was too small.
We're talking with Sean Hannish and Kelly Call of the film, just a bit outside the story of the ITA to Milwaukee Brewers.
Got to do a little business, but we'll come back.
Talk about how you can see the film tonight for free across parts of Wisconsin.
And more about the film is the All Balls Show across Wisconsin on Civic
beautiful in Wisconsin today and then our great sports reporter Mike Clemens on the latest from Lambeau Fields to get ready to take on the Washington commanders on Thursday.
And of course the Brewers playing tonight down in Arlington against the Rangers.
Time for the radio broadcast pregame show 6 30 first pitch just after seven o'clock.
You could also watch it on select stations across the state of Wisconsin or broadcast as Letterman used to say.
I hope one of your stations has been selected and then stick around for
or just a bit outside the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers being shown here in the Madison CBS affiliate TVW 3.2 on the digital dial or TVW on places like YouTube and Direct TV.
Guys, Brewers, a weird game last night.
The crew dropped 5-0 to Texas.
But I feel like that is due for a comeback to lead into the show tonight or into the movie tonight.
Sean, what was it like?
The question I gave to Kelly.
before the break there.
You've worked with some of the biggest names in the Hollywood.
What was it like doing this Euker tribute for the celebration of life?
Honestly, I felt more pressured doing this Euker tribute than I felt during almost any project in my life.
Only because he's so well known and so well loved that, as I said, for a few minutes after we were asked to do this, my feet weren't touching the ground.
I was floating.
The honor was so...
Honestly, so profound.
But then it was kind of like, oh, and by the way, you really can't screw this up.
You know, there's a lot of, you know, everybody loves you.
So, you know, really, I think both Kelly and I were like, OK, we really need a good approach.
And one of the things I'm proudest that we came up with was the idea of telling his life story in four bases.
Thanks, thanks that just having a structure like that to be able to talk because his he lived such a big life You know his life it sprawls, you know, it's Hollywood.
It's broadcasting.
It's a member of the community.
It's his charitable work.
It's Anyway, I think that helped us help me get my head around, you know
being able to tell the story of such an incredible life in, you know, I think we did it in about 25 minutes.
The pressure was there, but the payoff at the end was Bob Costas, Al Michaels, members of the Brewer staff, and Bob's son and family.
coming up to us afterwards and either handshakes or hugs and the compliments of you got it.
You got him.
You showed him in a true manner to all the people here and that, I don't think that'll ever go away.
I think that's super cool because having gotten to know you guys a little bit over the last couple of years,
I know what reverence you have for people in the industry, even though for me, you guys are huge names in the industry.
I look up to you.
But to have people like Al Michaels, Bob Costas tell you guys you nailed it.
That has to be better than any award you've ever gotten.
Without a doubt, I mean, you know, when you have, listen, when you have somebody's family come up to you and say, thank you, you know, that was perfect.
You can't you can't do anymore.
I mean that's that was really the goal was to honor the man and honor his life And then yeah when Bob costs Costas is like, you know, basically comes up to this as you know, you you guys are the backbone this entire celebration what you've done is It's humbling frankly because when we sat there in the audience of you know for the for the private event There were a thousand people there
And I, and I, Kelly and I beforehand said, you know, if the thousand people, you and I have spent the least amount of time with Uker of those thousand.
But we have to make a film that shows that, you know, we really, really understand, appreciate and love this man, all that he's done.
So
So well done.
I want to read you guys this quick.
This comes from our listener, Jane in Madison listening on to be MDX this afternoon.
She writes this, I saw the movie just a bit outside.
in theaters last year, and it led directly to a new interest in Brewer baseball this summer.
And what a year to adopt that team.
Enjoyed the film very much and recommended it to others.
It taught me that winning isn't always everything, but the journey can be.
Thank you.
I mean, wow, Kelly, Kelly.
Oh, what do you want?
I
got nothing to say.
Thank you.
I think that's, I think Sean and I are dancing around the same thing.
That's what it's all about.
The feedback we've gotten both from the film and the, you know, these Euker videos, that's why we do this.
And it's, you know, words can be really powerful and we've heard some powerful words from people.
I mean, I think, you know One of my favorite parts of the film is actually when Ted Simmons and Pete Vukovic talk about pitching There's a section in there where they talk about how to get hitters out that I could watch on a loop for the rest of my life It's so it's so inside baseball, but articulated so clearly that
I think anybody walks out of the film, but that's the particular section, understanding a bit more about the game.
So there's always a gem in there that I find that I look at as if it's for the first
I don't know that I see anything new, but emotionally, I will catch or tear up in a different spot every time I watch it.
And it could be the Gorman saying, I thank the Lord.
I played here.
It could be the woman saying,
Hello, American League Champion Brewers.
Every time something new gets me.
If you listen to us in Madison or Richland Center, you can watch the film just a bit outside the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers for free after the Brewer game tonight on TVW 3.2.
Other places, Milwaukee, Wausau, Green Bay, La Crosse.
Stay tuned.
We'll tell you.
Pass it on here when it becomes available.
It's coming to you.
Kelly Calls, Sean Hannes.
Thank you so much for taking time.
It means the world to us.
We'll