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Good afternoon, everybody.

Todd Alba, along with Mr. Aaron Zommerns, our producer and engineer, welcome in.

It is Tuesday, September 2nd, 2025.

It is a great day to be Wisconsinite, back to work.

And yes, back to school for most public school kids, some of the private school kids already there.

Many of our universities across the state, first day of classes as well.

partly cloudy skies at the World Headquarters of Civic Media in downtown Madison.

Glad to have you along for a fun, full-packed afternoon.

Back on a live show, we replayed our Joe Thomas show.

Many thanks to the Pro Football Hall of Famer, the NFL Hall of Famer, Joe Thomas for being on the show along with our very own Brady Ewing yesterday, but back to the live show today.

Zomber is how the heck are you?

Doing well, you know, I I made the unfortunate mistake of forgetting that today was the first day of classes for many and Went to a Starbucks drive-thru in which I was trapped for a while

Took you took you a little bit longer than expected We'll get into our weekends hours of sports filled weekend.

I was

recuperating from a little vaccination and how that ties into news over the weekend that former CDC directors

including some Republicans now condemning current Health and Human Services Secretary RFK, upheaval.

Vaccinations are a part of that.

We'll take a look at that.

Also closer to home, Dan Bice, columnist from Milwaukee Journal, sent already a story today, liberal Supreme Court candidate Chris Taylor.

ditching her own recusal plan.

Turns out when she was in a legislature, she thought, no, no, no, Supreme Court justices should recuse themselves if you get a certain level of donations, which it sounds pretty good to me.

But now that she's actually running for Supreme Court, maybe not so much.

We will dig deeper into that.

Our old friend Joe Gao, remember him?

Uh, Zomers?

Yeah, a sexy, happy cooking.

Yes.

Uh, former University of Wisconsin lacrosse chancellor.

who started his OnlyFans page with his lovely, intelligent wife, going to TMZ.

They're in Wisconsin.

What was the one, Only Murders in the Building?

No, what's the?

Wait, what are you referring

to?

The Netflix series is about the big serial killer.

No, Only Murders in the Building is a Hulu show.

I know.

I don't

know

the guy and his nephew that terrible terrible tragedy over by Green Bay murdered that reporter

Stephen Avery quick PSA for everyone out there This used to be a big problem, but not anymore anytime I would introduce myself while that was big and say I'm from Manitowoc to be like Oh, you know Stephen Avery right it happened in Manitowoc County not

in Manitowoc.

I told you I met him, right?

Did you?

Stephen Evry.

Yeah, that's a long story.

I mean, we'll get into it later.

I had the unpleasurable, for that moment when they thought he was, you know, didn't do it and was like released and he was made a hero and I

was in a

room and yeah.

Anyway,

you

did tell me about that.

Yeah,

that didn't work out too well anyway No, and so the Netflix have done these have done these shows or on TV of these ridiculous folks from Wisconsin and and now here we have good old Joe Gao You know talking about his only fan site which apparently is going to TMZ for some sort of documentary thing

So we'll talk about that a little bit later in the show as well.

The Brewers are off today after 19 games straight.

You

gotta silence your phone, buddy.

I

know.

I know.

Just hang on.

Several things going on here today.

All right.

The Brewers are after 19 straight games.

We'll hear from Murph, who got tossed out of yesterday's game.

Zombers was there.

We'll talk about that a little bit later.

In preview, we might have a special guest, so hold your hats and hallelujahs later on.

Green Bay Packers kicking off their big first week coming up on Sunday as we'll talk a little bit about that as well.

But want to start with breaking news this afternoon just wrapped up at the White House and this was billed over the last 24 hours as a huge, huge, huge announcement by President Donald Trump in the Oval Office.

And I don't want to get into this very far, but over the weekend, as social media and Russian bots tend to do, it was started on social media.

Platformers of the weekend that Donald Trump was missing and he had died and that so that there's all the speculation That there was going to be you know like JD Vance was gonna come out.

Hey, I'm actually the president now But that no that was remotely close.

It was just ridiculous hoopla on on the internet But Donald Trump showed up moments ago at the Oval Office with an announcement regarding the location of the space command moving it from Colorado to

Alabama which before we start we're going to play just a brief synopsis of the actual announcement But Tommy Tuberville former coach of Auburn is now a US senator He's in the room for this press conference and Trump makes remark Oh boy about you guys didn't like what happened over the weekend there because Alabama the college football team had a terrible terrible loss to unranked Florida State what Trump of course does not get

or understand is that Tommy Tumberville coached for Auburn, which is in Alabama, which is Alabama's arch rival.

And it was Alabama who lost, not Auburn.

And Tumberville is like, oh, I actually coached at Auburn.

So yeah, that's the way things kicked off here this afternoon.

And then Trump got into the actual announcement.

We're going to come back after this cut.

Break it down of what the actual truth is, lay it out for you.

But here, moments ago, was the president of the United States, Donald J. Trump in the White House.

In my first term, we created, and I created, a thing called Space Force.

So important.

You know, we were losing the race in space very badly to China and to Russia.

And now we're far and away, number one in space.

And re-established SpaceCom.

with a mission to protect American space assets and detect any threat to our homeland.

We initially selected Huntsville for the Space Comm headquarters, yet those plans were wrongfully obstructed by the Biden administration.

And as you know, they moved them to a different locale, and today we're moving forward with what we want to do and the place that we want to have this, and this will be there for hopefully hundreds of years.

That's where it's going to be.

I will say I want to thank Colorado the problem I have with Colorado one of the big problems they do mail-in voting they went to all mail-in voting so they have automatically crooked elections and we can't have that when a state is for mail-in voting that means they want dishonest elections because that's what that means so that played a big factor also in Huntsville space

Calm will play a key role in building the Golden Dome, as you know.

That's going to be a big thing.

Everybody wants to be a participant in it.

Missile Defense Shield, we're going to be having a Golden Dome that the likes of which nobody's ever seen before.

The finest, the best.

And by the way, Canada called.

They want to be a part of it.

And that'll be great.

But Canada wants very much to be included in that.

And then we're going to work something out with them, I hope.

who will also ensure that our technological capabilities, of which we're way ahead of anybody else, as nobody close, remain unmatched long into the future.

So I'd like to ask Secretary Hakeseth to say a few words.

All right.

So that's the gist

of it there.

That's the heart of the announcement.

And there are actually a couple of important things that came out of this, believe it or not, in my opinion.

President of the United States Donald J. Trump at the Oval Office less than a half an hour ago.

What to me the biggest news out of this whole thing was today is that Donald a sitting president of the United States in the Oval Office Said that mail-in voting equals crooked elections and that that was a large factor in him moving an entire agency within a department to a different state and This is Trump's latest thing

is calling mail-in voting crooked.

And Sadie wants to abolish it.

Sadie's gonna sign an executive order to end mail-in voting in the United States.

And of course, if you actually read the Constitution and understand it, you know that legally, Trump is not able to do that, that states control their own voting.

But what he can do, and we've already seen him do this on redistricting in Texas,

is he could put pressure on red states, i.e.

those states that have Republican governors or Republican legislatures like Texas, like Florida, like Indiana, and have them make mail-in voting illegal.

So he could put pressure on us indirectly, all right?

And so he continues this today by saying, hey, Colorado has mail-in voting that's

crooked elections, Trump's term, not mine.

And this was a part of it.

So that's number one.

Number two, he doubles down on this golden dome, missile defense system, which is of course very different than what he has accused of the steel dossiers in Russia.

Well, golden shower, which is something completely different.

Don't look it up.

Golden dome, he calls it much like Ronald Reagan's old, many people don't remember this, but Reagan called it the Star Wars program.

You're gonna have a big defense system in space, Star Wars.

And now Trump is calling it the Golden Dome.

So those are my two takeaways.

The biggest one that a sitting president of the United States continues to double down on saying that mail-in voting is quote, unquote, crooked.

And remember, Brian Arthur Shimming, the current chairman of the Wisconsin Republican Party last year, to his credit, and I credit him last year and continue to do so.

He applauded not only applauded mail and voting, he encouraged Republicans in the state to participate.

And so the only way we're going to make headways in Democrats winning Wisconsin is to embrace and participate in mail and voting.

And that is credited largely with helping Donald Trump win Wisconsin last year.

So the Wisconsin chairman of the Republican Party is all in on mail-in voting the standard bear the flag bearer for the Republican Party Donald J. Trump says that it's crooked So you know people like Derek Van Orden and Scott Fitzgerald and Glenn Grossman Brian style Tom Tiffany they're gonna have to make a decision Who is right?

Brian Scheming in Wisconsin or Donald Trump?

Let me give you the the facts

on this announcement today, Trump's saying they're going to move the U.S.

space command from Colorado to Alabama.

In 2018, this is VSCBS News.

In 2018, Trump had signed an order re-establishing a U.S.

space command after it had been absorbed in 2002 into the U.S.

strategic command.

Its main goal is to find ways to defend U.S.

interests in, defend U.S.

interests in space.

In 2023, President Joe Biden had decided instead to keep Space Command headquarters in Colorado, where it temporarily had been located overturning Trump's first term decision to Alabama.

Here's the key.

Biden had been convinced by the head of Space Command at the time that moving its headquarters would jeopardize

military readiness.

His reversal prompted the House Armed Services Committee, chaired by Republican Mike Rogers of Alabama, to request the Pentagon watchdog investigate the basings decision.

So it was Trump during his first term.

We said, we're going to do the space force.

We're going to reestablish the space command.

And it's going to be in Alabama.

When Biden got in and listened to the military advisors at the time, he said, no, no, no.

Turns out our military readiness is more important.

We're going to leave it where it's at in Colorado.

And then the Republicans investigated it.

And what they found out was very interesting and plays into today's announcement at the White House.

What did the investigation reveal?

We'll tell you.

After this, don't go anywhere.

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We're ever it may lead and having fun doing it welcome back the title ball show on the civic media ready to work Aaron Zommer's producer and engineer on the board 22 now past the hour of 2 o'clock on this Tuesday September 2nd talking about the breaking news story Within the hour President Trump announcing for the White House that he is going to relocate space command to Alabama After it had been in Colorado

And so what happened is to catch people up if you're just tuning in that.

During his first term as president, Donald Trump reestablished the US space command.

It had been absorbed into something called the US strategic command under George W. Bush in 2002.

Then Trump says, no, no, no, we're going to break this off.

It can be part of space force.

And then, of course, he loses to Joe Biden.

Biden comes in and instead decides to keep Spaceman command headquarters in Colorado, because when Trump reestablished this suddenly in 2018, they're like, look, where can we put this?

Well, it made the most sense at the time to put it in Colorado.

And so Biden said, well, look, we're going to keep it there.

because the head of space command at the time said that moving the headquarters would jeopardize military readiness.

Well, that prompted the Republican House Armed Services Committee chair, Republican Mike Rogers, of guess where?

Alabama.

I say it like that because the great late Keith Jackson, broadcaster on ABC, would, you know, get calling you Alabama.

So, uh, Congressman Rogers from Alabama said we got to have a, we got to have a big investigation here.

So here's what happened.

The Defense Department Inspector General said in a report that Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, Alabama would be the Air Force's preferred location for the command.

That's true.

But keyword, but building facilities.

equal to the ones that were already in Colorado, could take three to four years, according to the Inspector General's report.

Air Force General James Dickinson at the time, the commander of the US Space Command, voiced concerns about the timeline's impact on the command's readiness, contributing to the decision Biden had made

to keep the headquarters in Colorado.

So yes, it's true that the Air Force General at the time said, yeah, all things being equal, we'd like to have it in Alabama.

But the commander of the actual space force command said, look, three to four years before you're going to have proper facilities in Alabama, that's going to jeopardize our mission.

That's going to jeopardize our readiness.

And if you've ever had the honor and pleasure to work with military like I have had That's number one for them.

You say look, this is my personal preference with all these other considerations But our number one mission is to make sure that we are ready if and when we are called upon to serve And so Biden listened to his military advisors and said okay, let's keep it in Colorado So

Now for Trump to come in and say, you know, this is all political and yada, yada.

It's just not true.

And now think of the, uh, thousand people that have been a part of space command of, uh, yeah, part of the space command who are now going to have to move to Alabama or get other jobs.

According to CBS News, the Air Force in 2021 settled on Huntsville, Alabama as his preferred location for the headquarters after weighing a number of factors, including proximity to other space agencies and support in the community for military families.

Two years later, as we said, Biden said based on recommendations by the military, it would stay in Colorado.

Now, Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville is also home to NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center.

U.S.

Army Space and Missile Defense Command and the Missile Defense Agency.

As of last fall, 1,000 out of the 1,400 positions allocated for U.S.

Space Command had been filled according to a May Government Accountability Office report.

The report found that uncertainty over the final location of headquarters was a factor in discouraging civilians replying for jobs at the command.

And you don't blame them, right?

First Trump's president now Biden's president now Trump's president.

Where is this actually gonna land?

I can't take a job and not know if my family has to move halfway across the country So Again like so many things in Trump world they take a nugget of truth Twist it on its head add in untrue rhetoric and come up with a new a new narrative At the end of the day

It's about the mission and about serving our readiness for defense in this country.

And based on everything I've seen read, it would appear that the overall military recommendation to former President Biden was to keep it in Colorado to make sure that we're ready.

And now, and Trump went out of his way to say, you know, I won Alabama by 47 or 46 points.

That had nothing to do with it, right?

Right?

Right?

Looked around the room.

And as Tony just chimed in on YouTube, as we said at the top of the show, probably the number one thing to come out of today's press conference for me was the president of the United States standing in the Oval Office once again saying that mail-in voting equals quote, unquote, crooked elections.

And the fact that Colorado uses mail-in voting is one of the key factors he decided to move it to Alabama.

So that's how decisions are being made now.

Not not based on actual military recommendations and accurate information But what do I think politically benefits me and my party?

Want to give us a call want to chime in welcome eight five five seven five two four eight four two eight five five seven five two four eight four two Farm news is next with Pam Yankee and her crew of Midwest farm report and when we come back

Todd got the prick over the weekend.

How did he recover?

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35 minutes now past the hour of two o'clock.

I'm laughing because we may have, I feel like I'm on a date because I'm being teased.

We may have a special guest, and I'm very, very excited about it.

I hope so, because I know what it is.

I know.

I thought it was going to happen.

We'll see.

So state, you're not going to want to miss it because it's when we put this show together, this is exactly what we're looking for.

And so I hope it happens.

Anyway, welcome back, everybody.

Going to talk about.

I still they call it the tease.

Speaking of teases, they want me to say things that will entice you to bring you back.

So there you go.

Oh, I'm told now.

I'm told now my in my earpiece.

I'm told now.

Three o'clock after the three o'clock hour the special guest may be popping it.

So that's talk about a tease And so I said before the before we went to the farm report there with Midwest farm report the incredible team there I said I got pricked over the weekend.

It might not be what you're thinking I got vaccinated for a couple of things for Shingles and for pneumococcal pneumonia

I had a little bit of pneumococcal back in college got some penicillin cleared it right up And I was it hit me like a ton of bricks I felt like I'd been hit by a car and boy do I know what that feels like Anyway, we'll get into that and also why it's timely timely indeed is Mike Lucas is fond of saying

Because of what's happening at the CDC, we're gonna get into that in a minute, but I wanna finish up on what we were talking about, our top story here, Donald Trump having this press conference in the Oval Office.

It really was kind of a nothing burger, in my opinion, mostly just saying that he's gonna go back to his decision of 2018 and move the space command from Colorado to Alabama.

And despite the fact that during the Biden administration, Biden listened to the military advisors who overall said it was better to keep it in Colorado.

Yes, true that the Air Force General said if the Air Force had, you know, if they ruled the world and they don't, but sure, it would probably be better to have it Alabama.

But for a number of reasons, for readiness purposes, it was better overall to keep it in Colorado.

So that's what Biden did.

Now here today, Trump says he's moving back to Alabama.

And I think the biggest headline in this whole thing was.

Trump doubling down today in the Oval Office on mail-in voting, calling it crooked, quote-unquote, his word, and saying that was a factor because Colorado has mail-in voting, and moving it to Alabama.

Now, it probably really didn't, but again, it gives him this platform to double down, sending signals to Republican governors and legislatures to get rid of mail-in voting.

And then he can hold it over their heads and be like, see, I'm taking away your government programs and jobs if you don't do what I like.

Good point.

Yeah, exactly.

Let's go to the full lines, 855-752-4842.

Mark, in prayer to sack.

Mark, thanks for calling in.

How was your Labor Day weekend?

It was great.

Went to Labor Fest yesterday, ran into Chris Taylor, who I've talked to many times in the past.

You know, while I was still working downtown and ran into Mark Polkana, talked to him for a while as well.

Very good.

My other, you know, labor friends, you know, that ran into them as well.

But looking at how the Trump administration is doing things, I can't help but note the parallels between it and Stalin, because Stalin purged his officer corps doing a great deal of damage to his country's military readiness and leadership at that point in time.

And Stalin was also the one who says, I'll let everybody vote as long as I get to count the votes.

And I see echoes of that in the Trump administration.

I mean, the guy does not understand.

for god's sakes russia has mail and voting they have computer voting right i mean uh... that we don't you know that we don't you know that putin says something to trump and i think trump is upset he didn't get hold hands with with putin like uh... modi and and and ping of china i think that he's he's upset about that i guess i guess the old sweet caroline you know the little island about holding hands touching hands i think he's you know shedding tears there he wasn't given the same kind of love and

and comradeship that in spite of the fact he knelted Vladimir Putin and figuratively and rolled out the red carpet for the man.

But I mean that the damage Trump is doing and Higgs is doing to our military readiness is purging our officer corps as well as purging other agencies of people that actually know something about you know like HNSS.

People are going to die because of this nonsense.

Appreciate the call.

Thank you so very much Mark.

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It's what Gayle King at CBS calls a deal.

Bart, listening on WMDX says, Trump also said he's definitely sending troops into Chicago at the press conference.

That's kind of a big news.

He

must have said it afterwards in the questions at which time we were starting the show.

That's my

guess.

Yes, I was about to say, I was about to say, we didn't, it was during when we started the show, so we listened to the whole thing, but now I'm seeing, apparently the quote was, quote unquote, we're going in.

So Trump said we're going in, unquote, in terms of sending National Guard troops to Chicago, but did not give a timeline.

So that was just kind of a quick throwaway thing for Trump today in this press conference.

But yes, as they say, big if true.

We'll find out whether he actually follows through with it.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

Cam listening in Appleton.

Cam, thanks for listening.

What's up?

Hey, so this ties into him snubbing, Trump snubbing Colorado.

He keeps making the comments about the mail-in voting, and he tried to move the space department over to Alabama.

And it's because this is still

just theory but it's based off of data.

The data from smart elections and smart legislation and election truth alliance shows that the machines because they've been able to verify for a fact now that the machines that are used to tally mail in votes and the chain of custody are completely different systems entirely than the ones that are used for same-day voting and early in-person voting.

And those organizations are finding in the data that the two early voting and then same day voting are showing manipulation where mail-in voting is not.

So there's clearly a reason why he wants to get rid of them and why he specifically targets the machines that are counting those votes.

And he's obviously not being honest about it.

Thanks, Cam.

Appreciate the call.

855-752-4842.

Gene, it'll Claire.

Let's hand WCFW the tap.

Thanks for calling, Gene.

What's up?

Hi, guys.

Great show today.

Man, where's to get the money?

Another thing, too, is when he tried to deport that plane full of minors.

I can't remember what deal it was.

I was trying to get my,

now I take the picture.

It was Saturday or Sunday, yeah.

I take pictures of headlines now because I can't keep up and I'm running out of notebooks and papers.

There are so many disgusting things going on.

He's attacking the United States from the inside out, going after all our institutions that keep America safe.

He had a bunch of kids on a plane ready to deport him with

no verification of where they go, who they are, and luckily a judge stopped them.

Child abuse, if bringing out loud and clear, and I gotta tell ya, the new GOP party is guardian of the predators, so keep that in mind when you vote, guardian of the predators, because it is getting all the way around our country, and I hope people wake up because this guy's gotta go, and the people that put him in.

And the people that are responsible for project 2025.

Wake up, folks.

We are in for the battle of our lives, but we can do it if we do it together.

Thanks, guys.

Thanks, Jane.

Appreciate the call as always.

Forty three minutes now past the hour of two o'clock.

Yeah, lots of lots of news over the Labor Day weekend.

I think to Gene's point, some of the things I haven't talked about was not a great weekend for Trump in court as things like this try to deport

People suddenly got stopped by judges.

Also the tariffs.

Some of those got knocked down by the courts this weekend.

The courts are not necessarily the US Supreme Court, but lower courts are in fact saying no to Trump.

And he doesn't like that too much.

And there are reports that tomorrow several of the victims from Jeffrey Epstein's Island and other places are going to hold their own press conference tomorrow, which is only going to put

a bright light back on the Epstein files, which the Trump administration continues to refuse to release.

Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, Donald Trump, all said that, Jesus, just give us another term and we'll unmask all the sexual predators.

We'll give QAnon and manga based people and the alt right extremist.

Christian nationalists, not, when I say that, remember not talking about your standard Catholic or Methodist or Wesleyan church or whatever.

These are the, these are the, the QAnon folks, the, the alt-right extremists who said that Donald Trump was essentially their savior and he was going to unmask the Epstein files.

And now that it's not happening,

One can only assume why Because again, I'm not the smartest guy in the world, but if you got nothing to hide you say sure here.

Here's everything we got But if you got something to hide You don't release it That's my take but I'm a pretty simple guy And so that's very disappointing as you might imagine to the Q it on and the alt right and the extremist manga folks

because the guy that they looked the other way for all of his other infidelity and sins, because this was the, he was the chosen one to use the Star Wars term.

And it turns out he ain't doing what was chosen of him.

And so Trump finds himself in a conundrum, a quadrum, if you will, a kerfluffle.

So he's doing everything he can, Trump, in my opinion, to...

Move the spotlight away from not releasing the epsom files to anything else.

Not sure how you.

Spent your weekend.

Mine was largely recovering from I went to my doctor, got my physical as I said on Friday, we were here with a live show on Friday in the morning to have my physical.

The good news is cholesterol is fine.

Blood pressure is fine.

I'm pretty healthy.

All things considered.

But.

I needed to get my second shingles.

I had not gonna get in the story.

I had shingles in my late 20s.

Was in a very stressful situation.

Not fun.

Not fun.

It was terrible.

And now the person who gave it, who largely responsible for that, passed away recently.

Anyway, so I've had shingles.

I was out of work for those three months.

And so even still, it's only say, you know, I've reached the age now that I have to get a my shingles vaccine and I got my first one a few months ago.

You got to go back for the second one.

Now, some people get both of them.

They're fine, basically.

Well, I got that and I got the vaccination for pneumococcal pneumonia.

That I mean, if you've ever had the pneumococcal pneumonia, I am not.

I should be laughing because it's probably very serious.

Yeah, I just like saying pneumococcal pneumonia.

I know at the end of the ads, you know, the TV ads for it are really funny.

Yeah, having TV ads for pneumococcal pneumonia vaccines is weird.

Anyway,

anyway, I got my vaccine as I'm supposed to.

I'm happy to do it.

I'm glad to do it.

But boy, did it knock me flat on my back for about three days.

Well, two and a half.

I was glad I did it on Friday of Labor Day weekend.

And so it was it was timely.

Here's is from Axios.

Over the weekend, nine former directors of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, better known as the CDC, on Monday warned about increasing threats to public health from the Trump administration's political interference at the agency.

Who are these people?

Did they include Republicans?

And what did they say?

We'll tell you after this.

Don't go anywhere.

It's the Todd Albaul Show for a Monday.

A vaccination Monday on the Civic Media Radio

Network.

I think I said beforehand it was Monday.

It's Tuesday, of course, September 2nd, 2025.

Great song, by the way.

And right on cue because we've been talking about the fact that I got over the on Friday at my physical, I got my second shingles vaccine shot and also my pneumococcal pneumonia shot.

And I was a little ill over the weekend recovering from these vaccines.

Happy I have them, by the way.

And I think that it has affected my thinking because I said it was Monday and it was actually Tuesday.

But here's the thing.

We didn't play in this.

I'm not sure if it played everywhere in the state on all of our stations, but here in Madison on WMDX, right on cue during the commercial break, we had an ad from Pfizer.

Pfizer.

about the pneumococcal pneumonia vaccine, and it used that song.

This is, yeah, I know, right?

The unexplained mysteries of radio.

That was fun.

That was, that was, that was great.

Nicely done.

Nice timing on that.

So, uh, so here's the deal.

So according to, uh, it's a great story in Axios, over the weekend, yesterday, as a matter of fact, nine former directors of the Centers of Disease Control Prevention.

i.e.

the CDC, warned about increasing threats to public health from the Trump administration's political interference of the agency.

Health Secretary, like saying it like that, Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'

's takeover of health policy funding and research, quote,

is unlike anything we have ever seen at the agency and unlike anything our country has ever experienced.

Unquote.

The directors wrote in a New York Times guest essay.

The Trump administration ousted CDC director Susan Monarez last month, i.e.

a week ago.

After she refused to quit, the White House said that

she was quote unquote not aligned with the make America healthy again agenda.

It's a very nice way in my opinion of saying she won't do what we tell her.

Now several top CDC officials also resigned following her departure.

Silicon Valley investor and entrepreneur Jim O'Neill who advocated for unproven COVID treatments

was named Acting CDC Director.

So if you were all in on the Ivermectin or putting a light hose up your rear end, this is the guy for you.

Or injecting bleach.

Or bleach.

This is the guy for you.

The nine directors, 10 years of the CDC, spanned from 1977 to this year.

And they have collectively spent more than 100 years working at the CDC.

They worked.

in either permanent or acting capacities under Republican and Democratic administrations from former President Carter to current President Trump.

Here's what they're saying in this letter.

The nine former directors wrote, quote, the loss of Dr. Minarez and other top leaders will make it far more difficult.

for the CDC to do what it has done for about 80 years to work around the clock to protect Americans from threats to their lives and health.

They went on to say, during our respective CDC 10 years, we did not always agree with our leaders, but they never gave us a reason to doubt that they would rely on data driven insights for our protection or that they would support public health workers.

That's key, right?

That regardless of party, regardless of president to the past of both parties, these directors and the CDC said, look, we didn't always agree with our bosses, but they always relied on data-driven science and a commitment to support public health workers.

First time, according to these former CDC people, directors, that this is not happening.

The White House spokesperson referred Axios yesterday to O'Neill's Friday statement, quote, public health is a noble calling, he wrote, what it is driven by transparent data and a rigorous science that earns public trust and keeps the world safe.

We are helping the agency earn back the trust is squandered, unquote.

I'm just not aware of any credible people that think that the CDC squandered trust.

I just don't know any.

And it's incredible people I'm not talking about that goofy so-called quack doctor that Trump had in his first term is now in Congress.

I'm not talking about that I'm talking about people who have committed their life to science and to health and to public health and who do not do it in a partisan way

I'm talking about the people that you go to in Green Bay and Amory and Richland Center in Milwaukee, the people that you walk in and take your blood pressure and check you.

You're talking about the physician assistant.

I'm talking about the nurse practitioner, the registered nurse, the physician that you see.

How many times do they come in with a sticker for one party or the other?

How many times do they say, well, you know, according to

blank administration or according to president blank, here's what we should be doing.

Never encountered that in my experience because they rely on science and data and research and things that are provable.

And now for the first time in our country's history, we have an administration and a health secretary who does not rely on those things.

and goes at the whim of the head of a party, the manga party, for political purposes, using health people's lives as a political pawn, a political tool.

I think it's extraordinarily dangerous and sad.

Gonna come back next hour.

You're not going to want to miss a special guest in studio with

Packers news.

That's right.

A special guest with Packers news.

What is it?

Who is it?

Stay tuned.

You're gonna find out and what's worse having to do with Wisconsin's number one drink?

Milk.

It's the second hour of the Countdown Ball Show for a Tuesday.

Don't go anywhere on the Civic Media.

Ready Network.

From the Civic Media World Headquarters in Madison, Wisconsin, it's the Todd Alba Show.

And now, pursuing truth wherever it may lead, here's your host,

Todd Alba.

Good afternoon, everybody.

Todd Alba along Mr. Aaron Zommer is our producer and engineer.

It is Tuesday, September 2nd, 2025.

It is a great day to be Wisconsinite.

Now six minutes past the hour of three o'clock.

Welcome into hour number two of the program here downtown Madison State Street, mostly cloudy skies.

Some sun peeking through not a bad day at all, but.

Boy enjoy it today because the bottom is going to fall out of the old temperature gauge by midweek ties only in the upper fifties in some part and up north.

Maybe some frost in the pumpkin.

I mean way up north like Ashland and Superior in that area But yeah, gonna be pretty cool for a couple days and then temperatures moderate again this weekend pretty low will continue to update us on that coming up this hour Chancellor Gao from La Crosse back in the news has a deal with TMZ and You know the fund never quits when it comes to Chancellor Gao.

So we'll talk about that also Supreme Court news

Following up on Rebecca Bradley a bad Bradley as we say who a step does oh, she's not gonna run again She is out but news on the liberal that's in according to Dan Bice coming up a little bit later on in this half hour But right now and what's worse as well involved in Wisconsin's number one drink?

milk for right now ladies and gentlemen as we teased

right before the top of the hour, no better tease, right?

That he used to join us every Tuesday.

for Tuesday Tensions with Luke.

And then lawyers got involved or there's been contract dispute and we were told we couldn't have him anymore.

And now, but now he has breaking.

And I said, we talked on the show and before it started, and because now he's our boss, we answer to Luke, which is great.

He's a great, he's a great supervisor and boss.

And he said, well, we got, what are we doing this weekend?

I said, well, I got, I have the new Mococo pneumonia vaccine recovery time.

And I said, what'd you do?

And he tells me, and I said, this is what we're looking for.

This is what we're looking for.

People want more of this.

And so we went to the 12th floor.

He got permission from the attorneys.

And here he is, ladies and gentlemen, right beside me in the studio, our friend, our colleague, the one, the only Luke Mathers for Tuesday tangents with Luke.

Luke, sir, how are

you?

Maybe I'm already regretting this decision.

I'm good man.

How are you doing?

I'm great now that you're here.

It's great to have you back on the show We appreciate you making a special special appearance of course.

No, I wasn't planning on joining you.

I know

you pretty much insisted I told

you a little

bit about my celebrity sighting over the weekend.

Well, here's the deal

And the Packers back underway regular season, of course, our great sports reporter Mike Clements.

Nobody covers the Packers better.

The Packers going to be getting underway on on Sunday up a Green Bay, taking on the Detroit Lions.

You can hear the broadcast starting at one o'clock in the afternoon in Richland Center Park Falls.

We're seeing Kenosha and now Watoma as well.

So that's fantastic.

Yeah.

But.

You know, and I said, well, you took a little time with your family and friends up in the York County area, and you ran into someone on the golf course.

And I said, oh my God, we got to talk about this.

Yeah, I wasn't planning on golfing this year, but my brother-in-law was like, you can use my clubs.

It's fine.

And I was like, I don't want to drag mine all the way up there.

I don't play that often.

I'm not very good.

It's more of an excuse to walk around, enjoy the

nice

weather.

We had excellent weather up in Door County.

It was a little chilly to be camping, but you know, we made it work.

And interestingly enough, as we were finishing the nine holes, because we just, we agreed we wouldn't take all day.

The ladies back at the campsite with all the kids and dogs and stuff.

It's like I don't want to make Kelsey or anybody else have have their hands full because I'm out doing 18

holes like it was a hunting trip No, it

was me my cousins my brother-in-law my uncles my aunt joined us But there was eight of us gone and so you know, there's a lot of little ones running around.

I was like I don't need to play 18 I'm not good enough to play 18 finishing up the ninth hole and and somebody like somebody just started casually

uh, took chatting with us, uh, who was about to get ready to tee off from the first hole, and I look over, and it was none other, uh, than the, the former president now president, president Emeritus.

Emeritus.

Yeah, Emeritus.

There we

go.

Uh, for the Packers, Mark Murphy.

You ran into Mark Murphy on the golf course.

He was chatting me

up.

He was, he was asking

how I was doing.

Cause you were being very polite.

You were like, you recognized him, but you weren't going to be one of those people.

Right, right.

I wasn't going over to say hi or anything like that, but he, we were waiting for the second of the two four sons to finish up.

Uh, we were waiting for my uncles.

He had six, you said.

He had a large

family.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And so he was getting ready.

He was asking us how we did.

He was teasing us, letting us know that the back nine were easier than the front nine.

And we, we, we told him.

Well, that's good news, but we're not playing the back nine.

He said even better.

He had some fun with the crew that he was with talking about how many breakfast balls, which if you don't play golf very often, when you're teeing off from the first hole, usually the first one doesn't go where you want it to go.

So you get an extra one.

Mulligan, some folks call it, breakfast ball is usually what it gets referred to with me and my friends.

And I asked.

How were things going with the big news with the trade last week, Thursday?

And he said, yeah, you

know, Michael Parsons from the Cowboys, the Green Bay.

Yep.

Legendary trade by the biggest acquisition of Green Bay since Reggie White.

Go

ahead.

And well, Charles Woodson was

up

there.

We do that with defensive players.

We make a big splash.

Xavier McKinney last year, I thought was a really good.

But

yes, yes, not to this level.

Um, and, and so we, we, I essentially, we were talking about the trade.

He asked us what our reactions were.

We told him how excited we were.

He said, yeah, a lot of the time, like players of that caliber, which Parsons is up in the Reggie white caliber of defensive players don't become.

available very often.

And I kind of made the, that was, I was on the golf course, it was having some fun.

I made the offhand comment that, you know, I didn't really think that he was available, but apparently Jerry made him so available.

Jerry Jones, the owner of the Cowboys.

And Mark Murphy along the lines was, yeah, Jerry kind of messed that one up, but yeah.

He didn't necessarily say it in a way that is

radio friendly

radio friendly so therefore We were having a good time.

He was it was very nice.

We bumped into him again the second time in Dork County and one of the breweries down up there and

was overall it was very interesting and you know you never know who you're gonna bump into here in Wisconsin.

That's great and I appreciate you coming on and sharing that because number one I find it because they're what initiate all this is over the weekend there there's news now that Michael Parsons plans to

play

on Sunday but it's gonna have to take a quarter shot or something for back issues he's had so I asked Lukester I said okay is this a deal where

Parsons was not a hundred percent in the Packers really made a terrible mistake or just a Usual medical thing and you said you thought it was a usual medical

I think so be it the way that Mr. Murphy was reacting it seemed like he was very excited that the Packers got the upper hand of the deal so this news over the weekend now developing that Parsons has got something going on with the back I'm hoping it's just routine, but

yeah time will tell that's that's that's great insider information, but also just a great story in that

And others have talked to or had the similar experiences.

When we were on the road last year with Trig V and Reed Galen, we had an event there with the local rep there.

Before he was a rep, he was the assistant to the mayor there, Ahmad.

Uh,

uh, right.

Yes.

Thank you.

Uh, and Murphy was there just having, having a dinner and was very kind talking to people was totally cool.

People coming up to him.

And so I think it just makes you feel good as a packer fan to know those are the types of people that are running our organization.

Yeah.

And we, we thanked them for everything.

I mean, it's, it's.

very easy being a Green Bay Packer fan of late.

And

so we

thanked him for everything he's done for the organization.

And it sounded like when we bumped into him after the golf course that he did okay, but he wasn't as, he wasn't bragging, but he did okay on the golf course as well.

Now, Sue and Franklin asks, were you at Maxwell, was it Maxwellton in Bailey's Harbor?

Yep.

Well, she reports he owns it

now.

Yeah.

So

that's what

my uncles thought.

I didn't know that, but my uncles were.

So

that's why he got to stick to this force.

And

probably,

probably, but

not everybody was in my family was quick to recognize him.

They were kind of, they

were dismissing him a little

bit.

I believe so.

But I don't know if it was a

Packer hat.

I think it was just kind of a

low-key.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He was out there enjoying some family time as my cousins and I and my uncles.

We were all just doing it.

It was a great holiday weekend.

It was a fun time.

I only lost a couple of balls.

But it was very interesting to kind of look over.

And we were trying to chat him up.

He was very...

Excited to be there.

He was very friendly outgoing and you just never know who you're gonna run into.

No, you don't that's great Well, I appreciate you coming on Luke because see this exactly what we're looking for when it comes to this what our listeners want to hear is great insight Wisconsin insight and information So thank you for that.

Of course and as Luke likes to remind me this the difference between a younger man was he doing Labor Day weekend?

Golfs with Mark Murphy.

What does the older man do?

I'll recover from my recover from my new cockle

I want to make it very clear I

was not golfing with Mark Murphy.

I

happen to

run into him.

Were you on the golf

course with the man?

Yes,

but I was already finished with my

round.

I finished my round.

Maybe two truths and a lie.

This I could use in the future

one time.

I'll have to come up with.

I did have class with Sam Decker.

So that's my other movie.

Did you really?

Yeah, Sam Decker and I were at UW at the same time.

So we had his history class together freshman

year.

He's very

tall.

Sam

Decker is very tall.

He's a very tall man.

Right.

Sitting next to him in a desk, you know, there's not a lot of space in those desks.

And Sam needed all the leg room.

Any other interesting factoids for us before I meet him?

I'll have to figure out

what my one lie is, but now I've given away what my two truths are.

That's really good.

Those are big.

Yeah,

they're OK.

They're

all right.

It

was very fun.

We appreciate you sharing that because it makes us feel good as the Packers get set to kick off the week again the season pardon me on Sunday at Lambeau Field against Detroit.

Big contest one o'clock for the pregame show here on several of our civic media stations quickly before we go to break looks to any any thoughts on game one.

I think it's going to be very interesting to see how the NFC the NFC North was so strong.

Last year and the Packers did not farewell against them

one and

five in those six games that they play against the division opponents.

And so I'm really hoping that Green Bay is able to take care of business when the Lions come to town.

Parsons is going to be a game record.

And if he's if he's feeling good, whether he needs the shot in the back or not, I think it's going to be interesting to see.

We got to have Jordan loves got that hand too, though.

So it's

not going.

I think Clemens said it seems to be.

You don't know what's

happening until all of a sudden real time.

So it's going to be interesting to keep an eye.

But I'm hoping and then we get another divisional matchup.

I think pretty early on

in

season two, but week four is against the Cowboys.

That's gonna be the fun one to

watch.

That's gonna be a lot of fun.

And after the Micah Parsons trade, I thought it was a good sign because not everybody here at Civic Media is like Luke and me and Zama as a Packers fan.

We do have a couple of rogue Vikings, Bears and Lions fans here at Civic Media.

The good news is the day after that Micah Parsons traded came in, they were all curled up in the fetal position on the

in the office, so I thought that was a good sign.

I thought that was very good.

My best

friend's a Bears fan, and he was not too pleased, so,

yeah.

All right, that's Tuesday Tanger's and Luke Mathers special edition.

Thank you, Luke.

Always a pleasure, Todd.

A pleasure as always.

Very good, ladies and gentlemen.

We're getting ready to do another round of What's Worse, including milk.

We don't really have time

for

anything.

All right, let's open the thing.

Here we go, What's Worse.

Time to get to what's worse.

Nothing to give away.

No money to throw at you.

But it

is your chance to have your voice heard on all 10 news talk sports stations in the Civic Media radio network.

Timely, timely indeed, as Mike Lucas says, we might be talking to Mike Lucas.

I'm very excited about that.

What's worse, the category today?

Because as we said, we're into September.

Kids are going back to school today.

What do kids drink at school?

Milk.

What's worse, skim milk or 2% milk?

skim milk or two percent milk 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 2 4 8 4 2 and on the civic media app We'll take your calls next Luke stir skimmer 2%

skim is worse very good.

Well, it's lying about being milk

We'll have all the after this don't go anywhere in civic media

ain't nothing like a nice bowl of corn flakes in the morning to smooth you out milky cereal maybe milky cereal milky cereal maybe milky cereal mirror mirror on the wall who's the baddest female of them all it was frosty flake she loved your bowl and although her skin was white she had a lot of soul rich female very debonair driving her rolls with rollers in her hair we was hanging out

She took me to a club.

I think the name was Cheerios.

She took me to a club.

I think the name was

Cheerios.

Welcome back to the Tom Hubbell Song Show on the Civic Media Ready Network.

23 now past the hour of three o'clock.

We're right in the middle of what's worse for today.

What's worse, the category skim milk or 2% milk?

Skim milk or 2% milk?

Yeah,

8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2

8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 Zombers what was that song you dialed up?

We've played it before on the show, but it's been a while probably over a year You know you might not know that famed rapper LL Cool J has a song titled milky cereal, but he sure does

I Did not know LL Cool J

had a song called Milky cereal.

There's one more milk song

that I want to play.

But we played it for seven seconds long.

Oh, seven seconds?

All right, here we go.

Please pass the milk, please.

Please pass the milk, please.

Please pass the milk, please.

That's it.

That's the whole song.

All right, well, glad we got there.

their license payment in on that one.

What's worse, skim milk are 2%, 855-752-4842-855-752-4842.

Off the text line, PJ, watching on the stream, pardon me, says, both are worse.

Milk is disgusting, says PJ.

I cannot drink it or I can't drink it.

Due to an intestal issue, which is hereditary in my on my father's side of the family I do consume milk alternatives like coconut or almond Thank You peach.

I appreciate that look I recognize everybody's body is different and some people may have you know legit hereditary issues They're like like PJ and this is not an endorsement.

I don't get paid to say that it's just the truth and that's what we're here to do say the truth I had some lactose issues while I was younger

I've told the story on the show before I won't go into detail, but I was lived in Florida for a few short months and was lonesome for Wisconsin.

I looked at the Publix in the dairy section and there was 2% milk by Organic Valley dairy here in Wisconsin and ever that was 2007 and ever since I switched to organic Valley milk by lactose tolerance problems went away.

So you know PJ may have a legit medical issue that won't

Address but I think there's something to be said for switching or at least trying organic or organic value milk because I think it does make a difference Where products come from how they're processed and and what goes into them or doesn't go into them So the question is what's worse skim milk or 2% milk 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 Ted listening in beautiful Appleton, Wisconsin Ted skim milk or 2% what's worse?

I can tolerate 2%.

Personally, raw to me is the best for whole milk.

But for that gentleman's problem with milk, A2-A2 milk is the best for digestive problems.

All right, well, there you go.

I appreciate the input, Ted.

How

are things?

And did you hear about our judge?

No, what happened?

Oh, yeah, he resigned right

he

quit Yeah, we

had that story from

Wisconsin watch right of that of that three-way up that legal three-way between a judge a prosecutor and a cement contractor And the judge was the the manga guy, right?

Who was trying to put this guy in jail that wasn't for an issue that was even before his court and now the guy stepped

down

Well, gee, I wonder if

he did it.

Well, not until February.

Oh The kicker not until February, but he's going

Interesting, I appreciate you bringing, because we had that Wisconsin watch story on the

show.

And that really interesting, right Ted?

Yep, yep, I love it.

All right, thanks, I appreciate it.

Thanks for the call.

Great

day at Appleton, Ted at Appleton.

What's worse, skim milk or 2% milk?

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2, 8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4.

Ben, the listening and beautiful Richland Center, the old hometown on WRCE in the drift list says, when we were kids, my mom would use powdered milk and tried to pull it off as regular.

My dad didn't make any money because he was in radio.

Yes, I know exactly what he's talking about.

Well, you know, I mean, uh, yeah, you do it for the love of it, right?

I mean, you do it for, for the love of it.

But yeah, I mean, I know there are some people that, for whatever reasons, now I've used powdered milk, I think recipes before, but boy, I, I, I can't do the powdered milk stuff.

I remember

when someone told me that they used powdered milk, I was like, you're lying.

That doesn't exist.

There's no way.

Oh

yeah.

This was many years ago, but I've never had it.

The thing I remember about powdered milk the most and not.

This stuff for human consumption.

But my, my paternal grandparents were dairy farmers and you had a lot of times to wean the, the calf off of the, the cow.

You'd use powdered milk and it was like a, a, a powder you put into a, a bucket and then put warm water in it and you'd mix it with your hands.

And then as a, as a young kid, you'd get to hold the bucket next to the calf pin and they, they put their.

heads out between the slots and they just go crazy for this powder milk and it had a certain smell to it that was just like sweet and warm and you think it has to be delicious.

I never tried it that I remember.

You shut up.

But it was it was just one of those things in life, you know.

feeding calves that warm powdered milk.

It was just, it's a sense of smell that would just instantly take me back to those days.

So that's the only powdered milk that I was ever involved with.

855-752-4842, 855-752-4842.

What's worse, skim milk or 2% milk.

Take more of your phone calls here and a bit, also more text and just a bit as well.

but you can always call or text in on the text line.

Several people doing that will tell you what they're saying after this.

What's worse, skim milk or 2% milk.

Also, Chancellor Gao, former Chancellor Gao on the cross, going from only fans to Netflix, will tell you why and how after this, far news is next.

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Pacific Media Radio Network.

Serious.

Milk.

She's Carmen and he's Joe and we are the sexy happy couple and this is sexy healthy cooking your go-to show for plant-based food

We are vegans, which means we eat a

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Carmen is a very talented chef, and she's going to make us some food today.

We also like to have a guest star from the adult entertainment industry to talk a little bit about food and lifestyle and other topics that come up.

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The Civic Media Radio Network 35 now, past the hour of three o'clock.

That is the opening.

That is the opening to former UW Chancellor Joe Gow's only fan show with his wife.

What was it called again?

So there

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enough.

No, sexy happy cooking.

Sexy happy cooking.

That's it.

Sexy happy.

And

also for anybody at Civic Media who is listening right now and heard that this is on YouTube.

I did not go on any other websites on company.

You just you that's what he says I can't see his computers from here, but that's what he says he found it just on on YouTube We're gonna get to that in just a minute big story if you have if you have if you don't look the Brewers are off tonight So there's a lot of people out there that like me they've been addicted to watching and listing the Brewers We got a night off if you're looking for television entertainment We have a suggestion

We'll get to that in a minute.

Right now, let's finish up.

What's worse for today?

What's worse?

2% or skim milk?

Skim milk or 2%?

What's worse?

8-5-5, 7-5-2, 4-8-4-2, 8-5-5, 7-5-2, 4-8-4-2.

Let's go quickly to CJ in Stoughton.

CJ skim milk or 2%?

What's worse?

Oh, definitely skim, but...

Yeah, you know who doesn't love chocolate

milk.

Yeah, right?

Yeah, that's true

Yeah, I grew up my parents also did the sannolac which was powdered milk

But I don't know.

You're

the second person that has said this, and this is intriguing to me.

Do you think it was due to just economy?

It was cheaper to do that?

Or why did they do the powder?

Well, I think simulac is a formula, like a baby formula.

Oh, that's what you were like, really?

No.

No, sandalac was a powdered milk.

I must

be thinking of something else.

My older brother still complains, but I think they did more for him because he only grew to about six foot.

My brother and I were six-five, so.

Yeah, it is a different brand.

We didn't have

it our

whole life, but did you hear milk prices are down?

Do you listen to the news?

We try.

We try CJ.

That's great.

I appreciate.

Thank you for the call, CJ.

855-752-4842.

Tom in Madison, listening at WMDX.

Tom, 2% or skim, what's worse?

Oh, skim, definitely.

Yeah, definitely.

I mean, it's like water.

It's just crazy.

I just wanted to mention vaccines today because I had something happen.

I'm over 65 and I'm an asthmatic, so I'm going to have no problem at all.

But I have a friend who

who is not 65, who has cancer.

And we looked up if she can get the vaccine.

And no, because she doesn't have the right kind of cancer to please the Republicans.

Yeah, you're talking about changes in the CDC under Trump and the RFK we were talking about earlier.

Right.

So I would love, which I spent a whole bunch of time today doing, call your Republican legislators.

all of them.

I've called my Democratic Senator and Congressperson, and they are, of course, on the same page as the rest of us are that actually believe in science.

But call all your Republican reps, Congressmen, state senators, all of those people, and whoever answers the phone, ask them if they are going to get their vaccine this fall.

Thanks, Tom.

I really appreciate it.

Yep, go ahead, go ahead.

No, we definitely need to do this.

This is a very personal thing.

We're going to have a lot of people dying because of this RFK Junior worm brain.

And this is absolutely ridiculous.

And we need to take action.

I mean, if there's anybody in your family under 65, look around the dinner table tonight and know that they are at risk.

And the only reason they are at risk is because of MAGA Republicans.

Thanks, Tom.

Appreciate the call.

Like I say, I have not got... They were out of... I was supposed to get my COVID vaccine as well on Friday, but they happened to be out, so I got to go either to Walgreens or back to the doctor's office.

But I got my shingrix for shingles, and I got my pneumococcal pneumonia.

And yeah, it took me down for a couple of days, but...

You know, feel fine today and very thankful that those were available and very thankful.

I was able to get them.

So, uh, yeah, absolutely.

If you follow the science that we had the story earlier, nine, now nine former CDC directors, including Republicans have said that what RFK junior is doing now at, uh, health and human services and that CDC is just unprecedented.

Never.

Not only is it unprecedented.

never happened before in that, uh, the, what they are doing to, to Tom's point.