Loving One Another Includes People Different Than Us (Hour 2)

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World Headquarters.

And now, pursuing truth wherever it may lead, here's your host, Todd Alba.

Across Wisconsin on the Civic Media Radio Network.

and streaming worldwide on the Civic Media app.

Good afternoon, everybody, Todd Alba, along with Mr. Aaron Zombers on the board.

Welcome in.

It is the 15th day of July, 2025, a Tuesday.

It is a great day to be Wisconsinite.

We are on location, not at the World Headquarters of Madsen, but at Radio City Rockette Park in beautiful Racine, Wisconsin, the home of WAUK, Milwaukee.

from Racine and Zomers already.

And Zomers is with me.

I'm very excited about this.

Usually when we go on the road, he has to stay back at the World Headquarters, but he was allowed to come on the road with me.

And already Zomers, the board here not functioning like back at home.

Yeah.

I want to do over on that

one.

The look on his face.

If we had been recording, he would have just said, all right, we're going to do this again.

But this is the beautiful thing about live radio.

There ain't no going back.

It's fine.

It's fine.

I feel like I'm visiting you in a prison cell, by the way, because the window, it's like a slit in a

cell.

Very much feels like visiting a prison cell.

But we'd be able to closer and talking

on a

handset.

But it's funny just to see your face and your heads in the window.

But it's fantastic.

I see a little more of

Todd because he's farther away

from the window.

If you're watching on the stream...

It down here in Racine.

There's a camera that follows you around to watch watch this like over here and follow Look, it follows me over here.

There is a window for the lot those watching the stream fantastic Big show today here in Racine is the flower first leg of our what makes Wisconsin great tour here in July our friends Jane Matt Nair and Greg Bach are going to be joining us from the Matt Nair on air program You can hear it every morning from nine until

11 always a great show they are gonna be hopping on the van with me after this show and we're heading up to Oshkosh by gosh we're gonna be there in Oshkosh at the EAA museum because next week the big EAA show takes over town people come in from all over the world it becomes the busiest airport in the world

next week in Oshkosh, Wisconsin.

So we're going to preview that tomorrow in Oshkosh, and then we're heading back up and getting in the van.

And from there, we're going up to Butternut, Wisconsin, talking local artisans from beautiful Butternut.

And then from there, it's over to Hayward on Friday.

We're going to be outside at the lot.

the lot, not big lots, but the lot of unspecified size.

Yes, it's a beautiful place.

There's a pavilion there.

It's right across outside from our Studio Muskie 101, the Muskie up there in Hayward.

We're going to be outside, stop by, join Jane and Greg from 9 until 11, and then join us outside from

two until four on Friday afternoon.

Beautiful.

Hey, word, the World Lumberjack Championships happening.

A pow wow is going on from our Native American community and lots more to talk about.

Might go musky fishing.

Who knows?

It's going to be a big show all week long.

So she'll keep it here, both to Jane and Greg show, Matt and Aaron air in the morning and our show in the afternoon.

It's going to be a great, great week and many thanks to all of our great staff here at WRJN, W-A-U-K studios.

is another no it's just those two stations here uh chris morrow our sales director also the gm down here many thanks to him for letting us plant our our story behinds in his in his station here for a couple hours we appreciate that thanks to luke mathers our very own luke mathers uh here's the deal on the vehicle uh i no longer have a company card

So God love Luke, he came down into Wauwatosa.

Our bus van is from Wauwatosa, and he came down this morning and brought the company card with him, but as George Costanza once said on Seinfeld, didn't take, so poor Lukester had to put this thing on his personal card.

Thank goodness there was room on his because there was room on mine.

Yes.

And we appreciate Luke making the trip and that he was here today.

So like the gang's all in receding, it was fantastic.

So I appreciate everything Luke's done to get this trip going.

Many thanks to Todd Michaels in Oshkosh for his work leading up to that.

And many thanks to Darla, our great station manager up in Park Falls and Hayward for all of her work up there.

There's a lot of other people behind the scenes making all this happen.

And then we couldn't do these things without them and certainly not without you with Zomers.

So thanks to everybody for making this great week of what makes Wisconsin great happen.

We appreciate

it.

Absolutely.

Thanks to all those people, you know, for me, whatever, but no, everybody else doing all the great work of scouting out locations, getting people to come on the show, all that great stuff.

Yes, we appreciate it very much.

Yeah, absolutely.

Other things that are different.

in Racine versus the World Headquarters of Madison in the men's room.

Did you see this in the men's room?

There's a sign in the mirror that says, no grooming.

No grooming over the sink.

I did not see that.

I'm like, what are people grooming in there?

I don't want to know.

I don't know.

I don't know.

But I will not.

I groomed this morning.

I groomed the beard this morning before I left Madison.

So I'm freshly groomed.

So be no grooming.

Big show today.

Coming up at the bottom of the hour, I'm very, very excited about this.

State Representative Tip McGuire, Democrat of right here in Racine, represents the 64th District.

He's a member of the powerful Joint Finance Committee.

Will be along, he's gonna be joining, because he, we're in his district, but we picked a bad day because he's...

outside the district, but he's kind enough to call in via phone, so Representative McGuire will be on the show talking about the budget, talking about what's next in the state legislature, and talking about Racine, his hometown, and how cool is that he grew up here, and now he gets to represent it in the state legislature.

And Tip and I go back a ways, my last stint in the Capitol, 2010 to 2014, and Tip was working for former state rep Peter Barker.

and we used to go for walks around the Capitol and chat in a bipartisan way.

So anyway, now that he's a representative, he's gonna be on the show and we're looking forward to that.

And we're also in hour two, a little what's worse for you, Zombers.

And CP, our writer and co-executive producer of this program has done a great job on the what's worse's this week because they are location specific.

Yes, they're very topical.

I love it.

And we're here and one of our great sponsors, by the way, here in Racine on Civic Media is O&H Kringle.

And here now, if you're watching on the stream, I went this, when I got into town, look at that.

There it is.

Look at that beautiful packaging, O&H Kringle.

And I got ourselves a raspberry Kringle already.

Luke Stur has been in well deserved.

He got a piece.

Zomers has a piece over there and O and H great sponsors of civic media.

We appreciate their sponsorship, their partnership.

And here in my hot little hands, a piece of O and H Kringle.

How is it, Zomers?

It's excellent, as you well know.

I'm about to take a bite.

I just did before he did.

The raspberry filling, it's a perfect proportion.

It's just it's beautiful as tender.

It's sweet as Andy Griffith once said about another project

Good crinkle and also something I like about it kind of the middle is kind of a pocket Yeah, I've had crinkle before where

the

filling is kind of another you know solid layer and it's very thin not so with these

no crinkle is a

Kringle rules in Racine, many thanks to O&H for being a sponsor.

And hour two, we're going to ask you the question, there's really only one right answer.

But well acceptable.

What's worse, coffee, cake, or Kringle?

That's in hour two.

And our very own Greg Bach, co-host of Matt and Air on air every morning from 9 until 11.

Greg's going to be here in studio.

And we're going to talk about the last segment.

about getting on the road.

Jane, I thought we'd bring Jane on as well, but Jane, she has people and her people are getting her ready.

Before we had a no, not really.

I'm just making it.

She's going to leave her car at her place.

We're going to pick her up on the way out of town.

Seems like a good move.

Yeah, absolutely.

My truck is sitting in a lot in Wabatosa.

We'll be there when I get back.

We'll find out.

I hope so.

We'll find out.

Oh, also from O and H, look at this.

I got this for Jane and Greg and I.

It was a lemon loaf, a lemon pound cake loaf.

It looks amazing.

I'm a sucker for lemon.

Me too.

So I got that there and so it's gonna be a great trip, gonna be a great few days here and really looking forward to that.

So a big show today and hope you stay with us.

We'll take your phone calls as well.

Can we take phone calls here?

To my knowledge.

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4842 I thought I want to start here.

I want because speaking of going around the state and and doing things like that We ran into all we can did domers give me the phone the thumbs up we can take calls.

That's fantastic on Friday of last week we were at the northern Wisconsin State Fair with our friend and colleague Pat Crite low of mornings with Pat Crite low from six until nine Every day Monday through Friday here at civic media

And my sister and I, who is our on-site producer, we do these things, we ran into Republican gubernatorial candidate Josh Shulman in one of the barns.

And we said, we struck up a conversation, and I said, well, hey, I'm doing my show here over in Building Seed.

We don't have a large segment available, but I got about a seven-minute segment if you want to stop over.

He said, great, because the Republican Party booth is right across the aisle.

I was going there anyway.

and he couldn't have been nicer.

And Pat and I had him on the program and we asked him, some generally, we didn't have a lot of time to get into specifics, but you know what?

He answered the questions that we asked and he said he'd come back on for a longer segment.

Now, he happens to be a Republican, like most Republicans these days, who is all, seems to be in on Donald Trump, had nothing but good words to say about him, which to me, in my mind, makes it somewhat, I would not

want to vote for.

But he was willing to have a discussion.

And I think that's really important.

So last night, I'm getting ready for the show, going through some of my, you know, social media stuff that I go through to develop the show.

And I came across on Twitter X Twix, Devon Remaker, Devon Remaker.

Now, here's a guy who just got himself elected to the chairmanship.

of the state of Wisconsin Democratic Party.

Never met him.

I hear we're trying to get him on the show, would love to have him.

His predecessor, Ben Wickler, on this show many times, always, again, I would say I agree with Ben Wickler most of the time, but regardless, he was always willing to have a conversation and we appreciate that.

Devon Rebaker, we want him on the show.

He has an open invitation to come on.

But he retweeted something from Josh Shulman, the Republican gubernatorial candidate.

A post he made,

about the Wisconsin State Fair.

Let's try to get this in as long as we have time.

So here's what Josh Shulman posted at the Northern Wisconsin State Fair.

Hey everybody, we're here at the Northern Wisconsin State Fair in Chippewa Falls and we just had an electric time.

There are hundreds of people that came through and they're so excited for a grassroots campaign with a candidate who's willing to press the flash, burn the shoe leather and actually do the work it's going to take to take back Wisconsin.

We had a wonderful time here in still from people in this neck of the woods and we'll see you soon in smoother and then in Monticello and in your neighborhood soon.

Hi, that's all that he's standing in front of a nice sign that said Wisconsin State Fair.

It is red, uh, three quarters, hip and jeans.

I think it's great.

I did nothing wrong with that.

And regardless of whether or not I'm a vote for the guy, it's just a very standard campaign thing.

Well, Devin Remacher, the new Democratic Party chair of Wisconsin, retweets that along with a picture and Zomer is not exactly sure who this guy is.

But Josh showman happens to have I guess you might say one of his pronounced features is he has really great teeth and and I don't I don't want to say a big mouth, but I mean His teeth are very nice and you notice them.

I like I'm not gonna date Josh.

He's married man But I mean, you know, I think he's a fine-looking guy.

Nothing wrong with that But Devin Remaker retweets what we just played from showman

along with this

Other person it looks kind of like the comedian Nathan fielder I'm not sure if it is

if it might be Nathan fielder the comedian and seems to be making fun of Josh showman's physical appearance

And then he wrote something on it.

We're gonna come back.

I'm gonna tell you what Devon Remaker wrote and why I think the guy is off to a poor start as chairman of the Wisconsin Democratic Party.

Don't attack Trump and then try to use Trumpism to get votes.

That's what I say.

We'll tell you what he said after this.

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wherever it may lead and having fun doing it.

Welcome back to the Top of All Show on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Today on location, our beautiful studio is in Racine, Wisconsin, Radio City Rocket Park.

No, it's just Radio Park, I think.

I get confused.

It is Radio Park.

That's

correct.

All right, Radio Park, very good.

Here at beautiful Racine, Wisconsin, coming up after the bottom of the hour, gonna be joined by

hometown favorite son state representative tipp maguire democrat here ever seen in the 64th district member of the joint finance committee looking forward to catching up with representative maguire after the bottom of the hour right now before the break here we played you a cut of josh showman who is the i should have said county executive by the way he's a current elected official county executive of washington county here in southeast wisconsin

And now Steve's gonna run for governor as a Republican we ran into him up in the northern Wisconsin State Fair last week along with Pat quite low our colleague Pat and I had about seven minutes with him Look, you don't have a lot of time to get into any deep stuff, but he and I asked him about the state budget.

We asked him whether or not he needed Trump's endorsement or not Asked him about working across the aisle.

They answered all those questions And again, I because of his support for Donald Trump

Not gonna be someone that I would vote for but I really came he came across as someone who Was not When you meet him on the street, you don't like oh, that's a slimy politician I because the Republican Party booth was right across the aisle from the civic media booth I watched him with the crowd for over two hours.

I watched him one of the barns He listens to people unlike Scott Walker who I also saw campaign

It's not a forced thing.

It's not like oh, he's pretending to be a power.

He's pretending to be interested He comes across as a very genuine guy and smooth and I don't mean that derogatory I mean he's very polished and I can see why he would connect I can see why he got elected accounting executive of Washington County So he put this on at the North Wisconsin State Fair he put on his ex-account of a 27 second video

Just saying, hey, we're here at the northern Wisconsin Faro meeting people.

They're ready for new leadership.

Well, you know, I can't wait to see it.

Here's where we're going to be next.

Very, very good video.

So Devin Remacher, the new Wisconsin Democratic Party Chair, repost that on Twitter, along with a guy.

Who do you think he looks like?

The comedian?

Nathan Fielder.

We think it might be Nathan Fielder.

We're not 100 percent sure.

Just the angle is a little weird to hardly match with other pictures of him.

It appears that.

Remaker is trying to poke fun at Josh showman's natural facial features which Look, I'll make fun of Guilfoyle or these Trump women that get the the Botox the lips and the hair extension because they're intentionally changing their looks to please Donald Trump and and also their positions of power and I think that's funny

to me up is different.

Yeah, exactly.

You're punching up This is a seemingly I don't want to read to but a seemingly

making fun of someone's natural or poking fun at someone's natural features, which I don't think is cool.

Then Remacher puts above that, he says, quote, out of the out on the campaign trail, talking to my hundreds of excited grassroots supporters.

They're all just out of frame, cheering for me too, unquote.

because in the video that Shulman posted, he is standing there alone because he has the Northern Wisconsin State Fair behind him.

It turns out people don't hang out by the sign for the Northern Wisconsin State Fair.

They hang out inside the Northern Wisconsin State Fair.

And so Remaker seems to be like trying to insinuate that Shulman didn't meet a bunch of people.

There weren't hundreds of people.

Look, because our booths were across from each other, I will tell you that Josh Shulman, or yeah, Josh Shulman,

did in fact meet hundreds of people because I saw it.

And he was actually really good at it.

So, you know, Devin Remacher is what, 32, 33 years old?

And he's very young.

And he was Ben Wickler, the very successful longtime Democratic chairman of Wisconsin.

Remacher was his deputy.

And.

Look, I thought the Democrats should have put Joseph Pecky, a more seasoned guy, a guy I think in his late 30s or 40, early 40s, a professional marketer.

Pecky was on this program.

I thought the Democrats would have been better served, but I'm not a Democrat.

Democrats said, no, Todd, you're all washed up, and they decided to put Devon Remaker there.

What, the reason, and I hope Remaker comes on the show.

We've invited him I would love to have him as we said Ben Wickler was on this show several times always enjoyed him But I think this kind of too cute by half Seemingly making fun of Josh showman's physical appearance and then insinuating that showman was lying about meeting hundreds of people the northern Wisconsin State Fair It seems very Trump-esque to me and if Democrats think that the way you win elections is by mimicking Donald Trump They're off on that

They're just off.

Because Republicans rally around Trump, it's all about Trump and mimicking Trump on the right.

People aren't going to vote for Democrats, in my opinion, by mimicking Trumpism and being mean about things and punching down.

What I think Remaker should have done is said,

Look, does does Josh Shulman support federal ice troops coming in and disappearing people in our farm fields and dairy farms?

That would have been a fair punch on policy.

But to just go after a guy for his natural looks and then to insinuate that he's lying, because I'll tell you what, we are at the North Wisconsin State Fair for two days, quite what I work.

You know who I didn't see there?

Governor Tony Evers.

You know who I didn't see there?

any Democratic elected official.

I'm not saying maybe the other one or two days the fair went on might not have been there.

But the Republican booth was hopping.

It was well laid out.

Lots of people behind there.

It was hopping.

The Democratic booth was off in a corner with one little sign that did not look good, by the way.

And one person sitting there.

I just think that Denver Remaker and the Democrats could do better.

Maybe having more people like Representative Tip Acquire, who I think is doing a great job down here at Racine, he will join us next via phone.

Don't go anywhere.

It's the title of our show live on location from beautiful Racine, Wisconsin, the home of WRJN across the civic media.

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Network.

We are live on location of our first day, our first sight of our What Makes Wisconsin great tour.

Kicking it off here at the studio is WRJN.

This is where to be a UK broadcast out of the beautiful Racine, Wisconsin, home of O and H Kringle, great sponsor, great Kringle.

Coming up in hour two, we're going to do a little bit of what's worse featuring Kringle's worth of things.

And by the way, Dave in New Berlin.

One of our great listeners says, Racine is my hometown, Todd.

I used to visit the studio when I was a teenager.

I cut a few sound checks.

He says, not very good ones, but I bet they are.

He said, likely in the very studio that you're in.

Back, he says, back in 1926, I think he kids.

No, he was saying that to me because I said that.

We were talking about, you know, the old studio, and we said in loving terms, like historic, and that it's one of the first stations in the U.S.

that went on air.

So Dave was saying he believes it went on air in 1926.

Oh, I see, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, I love, because my first job in radio to be R.C.L.

in Richland Center was in the original studio that opened up in 1949.

And so to have a chance to broadcast in a historical studio like RJN here in Racine, another original building built for radio is an honor and a privilege.

And we're so happy that we are here.

Happy that you're along with us at 36 minutes past the hour of two o'clock.

And so happy to have our next guest here as well.

According to his ex-files, no, his ex-account, says proudly serving the greater Kenosha Racine Summers, Mount Pleasant Elmwood Park region, he is a state representative from the 64th district, including the city of Racine, a member of the powerful Joint Finance Committee, and he joins us via phone, state representative Tip McGuire, Tip, how the heck are you?

I'm doing well Todd.

How are you?

I could not be better.

I'm sorry we picked today when you were not in the district We came down here didn't give you a heads up, but I appreciate you calling in and joining us because you know back in the day during my former boss Dale Schultz's last stint in the capital 2010 to 14 you were then working for former state rep Peter Barker and in a bipartisan fashion you and I over lunch would go out and take a walk around the building as they say the capital or a couple of

walks away and we would say, well, geez, how could our bosses work together?

And lo and behold, back in those days, both Dale and Peter did find ways to work together and got along.

I really, I always appreciated those talks and walks.

And it's great now to have you on as a state legislator yourself.

Well, I appreciated those talks and walks as well.

And those are two guys that we can both be proud to have worked for.

Oh, absolutely.

I really believe that.

I wish we had more of that going on in the capital.

And you're in your second term now?

I'm in

my fourth term.

Are you really?

Oh, my God.

I

see that.

I'm getting an old tip.

It goes so fast.

Well, just watching you and the way that you've carried yourself, the way that you...

I have worked with the public.

It reminds me a lot of the best of our two former bosses because you're someone who truly cares.

You're getting to represent your hometown area.

And I think first and foremost, when you have a passion to represent where you're from, I think that makes a difference.

Agree or disagree?

I 100% agree.

The number one reason that you run for office is because you care about your hometown and you want it to succeed.

And so I'm very proud.

It's the honor of lifetime to represent Kenosha.

So tell us for those that don't know I mean, you know I grew up in Richland Center Southwest, Wisconsin lived almost half my life now and in Madison I don't get down to this part of the state as often as I should or I would like We're a statewide show tell folks a little bit if you were just kind of given the elevator pitch or or telling people about your hometown area The district you now represent in the assembly.

What should people know?

I mean, I think you have to start at Lake Michigan

We have one of the wonders of the world right here in our backyard.

We've got Lake Michigan.

We're right on the lake.

And so we're sort of between Milwaukee and Chicago, but we have excellent food, a little influence from both.

Excellent food, some wonderful museums, a downtown trolley that you can ride around, especially in the summer.

I wouldn't recommend it as much when it's cooled out.

But you can.

And it's just a beautiful community that, you know, honestly, it is a city.

It's a hundred thousand plus people.

But in reality, it still has that small town feel where people know each other and the communities very comfortable with each other.

Yeah, it's just a beautiful part of the state that those of us that might not get down.

I mean, a lot of people like going to.

Milwaukee to a Brewer's game.

I think for some of us, it's like, well, that's Southeast Wisconsin.

No, no, no.

There's actually a lot of life and vibrancy south of Milwaukee between that and the state border.

And in Racine and Kenosha area, certainly have that tip.

Tell us before we get into the policy of this thing, tell folks a little bit about your journey growing up here, where you went to school and kind of what drew you into politics.

Yeah, so I guess if I'm being totally, totally frank, so I grew up here in Kenosha County, grew up in the town of Summers, where my mother still lives, but not too far from where I live now.

And, and so my, my father taught at Parkside, my mother taught at a school in Chicago, and they, they both drove in different directions every, every morning and then returned home, but.

Coming, you know, growing up with a family of teachers, I read a lot and we had like a big, you know, acre and a half yard.

And so I would get on, you know, get into all sorts of adventures out there.

Growing up, I went to St.

Sebastian's Insurgent and then St.

Catherine's High School in Racine.

I went to Marquette for undergrad.

And then I came to work with you in the Capitol, Todd, for five years before I went to law school at the University of Wisconsin.

Following law school, I was a prosecutor.

I was a special prosecutor in Kenosha and then an assistant DA in Milwaukee.

And then when the opportunity to run opened up in my hometown, I took it and I ran.

I guess I would say the thing that initially drew me to politics was when I was, I don't know, 16, 15 years old, I opposed the war in Iraq.

And so I started watching and observing politics a lot more that way.

My parents were always very politically involved.

And then from there, I volunteered on my very first campaign, which is in.

2004 for John Kerry and Russ Feingold, and I made phone calls for them.

And then after that, I was just committed to making sure that we had a Wisconsin and the United States that benefited working people and where we could have faith that the decisions made by our leaders were the ones with our best interests at heart.

I love the story.

And I said that wrong.

I apologize.

It really isn't just politics.

To me, it was a public service.

And I think you're someone, I think I know you're someone, because I've walked, I've spent time with you in the Capitol.

I've seen you work, I've seen you listen to people.

You're someone who really cares about helping others and making your area and the entire state better.

And that's what I respect about you and appreciate, even if we might, you know, not always agree on every single policy thing, it's your intent and why you do this.

So we're talking with state representative, Tim Auquire from the 60

Fourth District Democrat here from the Kenosha and Racine area.

So talk to us a little bit.

Well, first of all, Tim, I gotta say, so you got your law degree at Wisconsin, undergrad at Marquette, right?

Yeah.

So tell us, the big game, Wisconsin Marquette basketball, who do you cheer for?

Well, look, Marquette doesn't have a football team for me to cheer for.

I usually give them the edge in basketball.

You know, the badgers, the badgers, they got other things to cheer for them in.

So I usually give Marquette the edge in

basketball.

Yeah.

My former boss, one of my other former bosses, Scott Kluge, he's a big Marquette fan and, and grad and, and so he takes me to one Marquette game, men's basketball game a year.

And I have to say, as a Wisconsin fan,

Marquette student section for men's basketball is better in my opinion most nights and they really shock a smart They really do it the right way.

So It's just part of what makes Wisconsin great.

All right, let's get on to some actual politics here So the state the estate budget you're one of four Democrats.

There's two assembly people There's two senators on the on the estate budget committee joined finance committee You're one of the three who voted no on the on the state budget tell us we had us five

State Senator Kelder Royce on the program quite a bit during the budget.

She was also a no vote.

Tell us Representative McGuire why you voted no.

Well, I think to get into the no vote, I want to kind of remind everyone about the context of that final decision.

After what seemed like many more months than is typically given, but was actually roughly on time, the process as it was going through

Republicans continued to try and create this very right-wing, very conservative, very radical budget.

And briefly they had entered into negotiations with the governor and then walked away.

And then they continued down this path of having a very right-wing budget.

And so from that point, that is sort of the undergirding of what was in a lot of the budget.

Now, the governor was able to come in and negotiate with them the second time and drag them kicking and screaming to a better result.

He was able to improve some of the funding for education.

He was able to make sure that we were at least extending child care counts or something like it for an additional year.

He was able to reverse the

87 million dollar cut that they were planning for the UW and start putting funds back into our university system.

And so there were a lot of really positive things that the governor did, but there were also a lot of things that were still a part of that budget that were very conservative.

And so when it came time for me to vote, I looked at the things that I had set out at the beginning.

as what we need to accomplish with this budget.

You know better than most, Todd, that every year the legislature gets together.

We

have a lot of bills that we debate and that we differ on and that we agree on, et cetera.

But usually there are some big pressing issues that are the business of that year, things that must be accomplished.

And from my perspective, the thing that must have been accomplished this year was ending the cycle of referendum across the state.

Unfortunately, in school districts, everywhere rural, urban,

big, small, and we heard it when we did the joint finance tour.

It was the number one issue discussed.

School districts were suffering and were going to referendum and were raising property taxes on their communities and their communities were stuck with that choice.

Whether to raise my own property taxes and make sure that my kid has a good school or whether to keep my property taxes and housing affordable, but worry about what's going to happen at the school.

Are they going to go to larger class sizes?

They can lay off teachers.

What's going to be happening at my school district?

And so we needed to end that problem.

And unfortunately, this budget doesn't do that.

I

think for communities across the state, they will once again go to referendum.

The governor had, at the beginning of the budget process, had put in a tremendous amount of property tax relief to make sure that the referendums that had already passed wouldn't continue to impact folks as harshly.

And unfortunately, Republicans took that out and refused to put it back in.

They neglected education, they neglected property taxes, and that means that communities are going to go back to this question of, should we raise property taxes when those property taxes are already going to be going up?

State Representative Tim McGuire of the 64th District.

A couple of minutes left here, Representative.

What you just said, you laid it out perfectly.

And I'm not asking you to speak for the governor, but as someone who had a seat at the table, can you give us any insight as to why Governor Evers, I agree with him, drew a red line in the sand to get money for childcare in this state.

He drew a red line, at least to some degree, to get more money for UW System, which I agree with, but he chose not to draw a red line to get the adequate or more money for K-12 public education.

Well, I think that the government made significant progress in the special education funding, which was very important.

And so I really want to credit him for and Senator Heselbine for doing a good job negotiating better results for Wisconsinites.

But ultimately, if I'm being totally honest, Todd, I don't think that Republicans would have budged.

on property tax relief because I think that they are hoping that this fall they're going to come in and they're going to introduce some bill on the 400-year veto thing or they're going to introduce decoupling and they're going to say, oh, people's property taxes are going to go up unless you cut education in these other ways or send the first dollar from the state to voucher schools or whatever it is.

I think that they're going to come back in and use what they did in this budget as an excuse to do more damage later.

Do you

have time to stick

around for another segment or you got to go?

We're up

against the clock.

That's why it has.

So we're going

to take a

quick break and do a little business and more on the other side.

It's a cliffhanger.

That's a tease from State Representative Tim McGuire, who will finish his thought asking more about politics and government on the other side.

We're live in his district at Racine, home of the WRJNWA UK.

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That is Mickey shore and the versatile tones from Starlight Records here.

It was a label.

You said Zombers.

It was here in Racine and they recorded in this very studio.

I don't know.

Not this studio.

It was at 16 20 Edgewood Avenue.

OK, back of the day.

Back in the 60s.

Yeah, very good.

Well, we're speaking with we appreciate him sticking around the state representative from this area Tim McGuire of the 64th district Democrat here in the Racine and Kenosha area representative McGuire You heard of this this starlight records.

This is part of the history of this district and again shows the diversity I mean you got it all down here.

You got record labels.

You got shoreline.

You got sports.

You got crops.

It's fantastic

Yeah, I've honestly I've never heard of Starlight Records before so I'm glad that you introduced

this I took a note when you mentioned it earlier.

Oh very good very good Well, I appreciate coming back because look at I'm not you're not here to speak for the governor I don't expect that but you were a no vote on on the state budget here and the question I posed was you know governor drew a line in the sand for for child care money Which I agreed with he drew a line in the sand for you to be a system

I don't think enough, but that's beside the point.

I agreed with what he did draw the line the same for and as someone who

touts himself as the education governor, I just said I didn't understand why he didn't draw a deeper line in the sand on that.

Granted, he got money for special education, but to your point earlier, this budget means that people all over the state are going to have to have more referendums.

Eau Claire district is going to lose like $2 million in the next biennium.

There are smaller districts with even a greater impact.

You are making it a point you wanted to finish up on that.

Yeah, I wanted to say I thought that the governor did excellent work in dragging Republicans kicking and screaming further than I think that they wanted to go.

But he also was butting up against a timeline and that timeline isn't just the normal timeline for budget to pass.

And you'll never hear legislative Republicans talk about this.

Maybe they mentioned this.

I don't know.

I would doubt it.

But that timeline was shortened because federal Republicans.

We're passing the federal debt bomb bill that was going to cut millions of Americans off their health care and was going to create problems in the health care space across the country.

And that included some federal dollars that the state receives and that goes into health care here in Wisconsin to make sure that we have coverage for people.

And so I think that the governor was working to get as much done as he could in the timeline that he had.

And while I wish that the budget was better, it certainly

I don't believe that it'll have benefited Kenosha schools down here.

And so I think that there's going to be a lot of challenges facing our school districts.

I also understand why the governor did what he did.

And I'm grateful that he was able to take this budget.

I mean, honestly, Todd, I don't know if you were listening to every joint finance hearing.

And I hope you weren't.

I missed that.

I'm sorry, Tip.

Yeah.

But an awful lot of those hearings were watching people take votes to just refuse to fund

programs that Wisconsinites would be shocked if you weren't funded.

And the governor took that budget and he made it better.

And again, it wasn't good enough to earn my vote, but I appreciate his efforts in doing that.

And quickly, I talked about this during the process.

I'm glad you brought it back up because I totally agree with you.

You know, you've been in many more, I'm sure.

But back when I worked for Dale Schultz in the state Senate, I was in meetings with Robin Voss.

You'll remember this.

We were both working at the Capitol when Dale held up the raping of the land in the Republican Mining Bill in northern Wisconsin, at least for a while, and was in private meetings with Robin Voss.

And he gets to a point where he just politely says,

Okay, I think we're done here.

Thank you very much.

We'll talk to you later and he walks out of the room and I think you're right I think that the governor probably pushed speaker Voss as far as he could have gone

I Would I would I would I wasn't in the room, so I can't confirm that but I would hope so I certainly think that the governor was sticking up for his priorities and his priorities were Those three big things that we mentioned education childcare and EW systems.

All right

Oh, no, I was just going to say, so I think that there are certainly some positives in the budget.

It did get a lot better.

But obviously, I think there's going to continue to be challenges on that one big problem that the state should be working to address today.

All right.

You're a young guy.

You're a smart guy.

You've made a name for yourself.

You're on joint finance committee.

Are you outside the building?

Can I ask you a political question?

You can all right very good.

So I want to know the next two minutes What do Democrats have to do statewide?

Just in your opinion as a young Democratic leader, what do Democrats have to do politically to win in the state in 2026?

You know, I saw a headline the other day that I thought could have been one of those recurring onion headlines and that headline was in quotes Dems may be overthinking this

I think that we you know you worked on campaigns before you know campaigns are it's about talking to voters It's about going out and talking to people in your community talking to people across the state We tend to think of these things as big strategic chess games But really what we should be doing is taking our values going out asking people what they care about and then telling them how we want to help It's that simple

I couldn't agree more

I could not agree more.

And I wish more does someone who is doesn't belong to any party anymore.

I left the Republican Party in 2011.

I want to see Democrats win because I think it's the only major political party left that believes A in democracy fully and truly and B that can lead us forward.

But they keep seeming to step on their own message.

And it is this.

I'm sorry.

We're got one minute left.

Do you think that this divide in the state between I'll just call it progressive Democrats and more centrist Democrats?

Is that going to be the bane of 2026 or?

Can they pull it together?

Oh, we can pull it together.

Absolutely.

I'm very confident in both the elected officials that we've got from across the spectrum, as well as in the people who are concerned about the future of our country.

We can pull it together.

We will pull it together because, frankly, the state depends on

it.

All right.

Here's our goofy question for next hour.

You get the first take at it.

What's worse, Representative McGuire, coffee cake or Kringle?

What's worse?

What's worse, coffee cake or Kringle?

coffee cake, of course.

You got the right answer.

We'll play that on the other side.

State Representative Tip Aguirre from the 64th District.

Thank you for your time, my friend.

Always welcome in this program.

Thanks for letting us hang out in your district.

Have a great day.

Yep, you too.

Thank you so much.

State Representative Tip Aguirre.

We appreciate him.

Come on back.

We'll play what's worse, Coffee Caker.

Kringle, Greg Bach in the second hour, and more news is the All Ball Show from Racine after this.

On location, it's the Todd Alba Show.

And now, pursuing truth wherever it may lead, here's your host, Todd Alba.

Across Wisconsin on the Civic Media Radio Network.

and streaming worldwide on the Civic Media app.

Good afternoon, everybody.

Todd Albault, along with Mr. Aaron Zommers, our producer and engineer on the board.

It is Tuesday, the 15th of July, 2025.

It is a great day to be Wisconsinite.

Glad to have you along here on location.

Our beautiful studio is WRJN at Radio Park in Racine.

Also is where we broadcast WAUK from great home.

of Matt Nair on air every morning from 9 until 11 with the wonderful, the talented Jane Matt Nair and the wonderful talented Greg Bach.

I can't say it about one or not the other, you understand?

Because I have to ride with him for the next three days and I'll hear about

it.

And also on the board, producer Calvin, AKA Dr. Slide, AKA

the

board lord, AKA Calviente, AKA I know there are more.

I didn't know that Kelvin, Kelvin has his own office down here.

And people line up for autographs, which I think is wonderful.

So it's great.

Kids come in during their, there's a church down the street here.

They were having summer Bible school and kids got done, their lunch break of Bible schools came down to get Kelvin's autograph.

And I think that's great.

I think it's absolutely fantastic.

But speaking of Jane and Greg.

Kelvin stand here, but Jane and Greg were getting in a 1967 bluebird bus No, actually you don't want to know something what I was I was well, I'll remind me I'll tell you what we're driving.

Okay, sounds good And the last break because Greg Bach is gonna be here alive and in person to start off this tour And we're gonna talk about it later on this hour with Greg and then we're gonna go pick up Jane

And she's been she's been baking all afternoon and she has a sort of no it's not really Would that be funny that it stems from you you're too young to remember but when Hillary Clinton became first lady

When Bill Clinton Clinton got elected in 92, the press said, well, Mrs. Clinton, what's your, you know, because every First Lady has like education or reading or has some literacy, some program that, from Michelle Obama, it was nutrition, something that they care about and they work on as First Lady.

And the press said, Mrs. Clinton, what's going to be, what's going to be your main thing?

And she said, well, I'll tell you one thing, I'm not going to be sitting at home baking chocolate chip cookies.

Because Barbara Bush liked to, she said one time she liked to bake cookies.

So it was a little shot over the bow.

So that, that haunted her for a long time.

And I'm sure Jane's a wonderful baker, but no, I think she's got Kringle.

We're taking it as a peace offering to Oshkosh tomorrow.

And I went and got Kringle for us on the trip right here in my hot little hands.

the delicious raspberry O and H. Look at that.

Look at that.

O and H, a great sponsor down here of Civic Media, RJN and AUK.

We've had some Luke Mathers has tried, apparently it's his favorite, one of my favorites as well.

We have a lemon loaf as well.

Todd's not going to lose any weight on this trip.

But tomorrow we're going to be broadcasting from the EAA Museum in Ashgash Bagash.

Then it's...

On the road again up to beautiful butternut gonna be talking to some artisans in butternut and finishing the week on friday at the lot the producer parker olson of more names of pat crite low parker watching earlier and says it's the lot like the ohio state university so it said the basically it's a nice place across from the musky 101 station hayward there's a beautiful pavilion bring your lawn chair bring your favorite beverage

Come on out and say hi to Jane and Greg from nine until 11 and then stick around or come back from two until four and see our dog and pony show.

So we'll be talking about the the Hayward Lumberjack championship pow wow going on and whatever else we can find to talk about Hayward.

There's always so there's a lot going on Hayward.

You understand.

So looking forward to spending the week.

Matt and Aaron air our show the next three days as we travel around the state finding out.

In large part, what makes Wisconsin great.

Here's a hint.

It's the people and the Kringle.

Many thanks to State Representative Tim McGuire for being on the show.

Great guy, by the way.

I haven't talked to Tim in a long, long time.

So many thanks for him taking the time to be on the show.

I'd love to have him back soon.

As we said later on this hour, I'll be speaking with one of the co-hosts of Matt Nair on air, Greg Bach, as we kick off.

Things will be talking a little bit.

I want to play you a clip here in a while.

And I just, well, it's going to be a little bit of a seriousness for a couple of minutes here later on, because I saw this yesterday.

It's a teenager, a high schooler, an American citizen in Massachusetts.

He was on his way to volleyball practice and got arrested by ICE.

And after finally it was sorted out, he was released.

had a press conference, and we're going to play you his comments.

It says a lot about where we're at in the United States of America right now.

And who knows, maybe some other, some other, oh, here's something on broadcast rights for rural America, including rural Wisconsin.

We'll talk a little bit about that.

And tomorrow, by the way, do you want tomorrow's summers?

Crite Law always does this in the morning, national days.

Yes, it's Wednesday.

It's National Hot Dog Day tomorrow.

Well, you had one today.

I had a hot dog earlier at the Dairy Queen.

Are you celebrating ahead of time or are you going to go tomorrow?

It was a pre-dog celebration.

That reminds me, for those of you who do not listen on WMDX in Madison, the John and Gordy show is their local morning show and they have a promo running.

They had someone from Costco come to wish John a happy birthday and they said, John.

We know you love Costco and for your birthday, hot dogs are going to be $1.50 all day.

That's pretty good.

Which is the price of Costco hot dogs.

That's pretty good.

All right, so big, big hour this this hour, but right now it's coming up on 13 past the hour of three o'clock time once again for what's worse.

Let's

go.

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All right.

Here we go.

What's worse?

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What's worse coffee cake or Kringle?

8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 Tony watching on Facebook says coffee cake is much worse You never know what's in there, especially if there's nuts as ingredients or bombers will agree with you there

Tony.

Yeah, I'm gonna say

On a crinkle, you can tell if there's nuts or usually on top.

Coffee cake, the texture is less evident.

So you could die if you're allergic.

We don't want that.

We don't want that.

Dave listening in New Berlin says, coffee cake is disgusting.

Worse is the castor oil.

Or worse than castor oil.

Or worse than castor oil.

I was going to say, who's putting castor oil in their coffee cake?

Brian, in all listening to beautiful Marinette.

Home of our own Pete Schwabba, host of Nightlight every night from six until eight.

Brian and Marinette, listening on the Great Station, WGBW in Green Bay, says, if I'm forced to choose one, coffee cake loses.

All right, very good.

John, where we're going to be tomorrow, John over at Oshkosh, WISS.

John says, Kringle is worse because I've never met one I don't like.

So dang good, but bad for the waistline.

Well, you have a point.

Yeah, my I am not gonna lose weight of this trip I just I know it in fact, I'm hoping I hope you don't gain some but I'm nervous about that Brian listing on WGBW and Green Bay as well says pick and save coffee coffee cake is mighty tasty.

I never had that quote never had that one Mike

Listing in Milwaukee right here in the UK says, in this case, coffee cake is not as great, quote unquote.

So he's not going to say either one is worse.

He's just going to say which one is not as great.

But, but then he quickly adds, but coffee cake is worse.

Oh, I guess that's Brian, Brian, back saying from Green Bay coffee cake.

Tyler listing in Wisconsin Rapids, FHR, a great station there in Rapids.

Uh, do you go, do you go forward faster when you go and reverse?

How about how about you ask one that's better is what I find is worse around I'm talking about roundabouts.

I don't know.

I think it's a poem.

It's got rhymes.

Oh, all right.

I'm sorry.

I'm not ready.

That's my bad Tyler, but I'm sweating by the way The studio in Madison I freeze my you know, what off?

Okay.

Yes down here.

I'm sweating them off

If we could maybe could we build a station like in I don't know Lake Mills Maybe in P walkie we can have the JJ want studios and P walkie.

I like that That'd be a lot of fun.

By the way, should we tell people this on?

I

don't know what you're referring to

We're gonna do a show with Joe Thomas for Wisconsin Badger and Cleveland Brown

So looking forward to that, we'll have more details later.

That's coming up later on at the end of this month.

All right, what's worse right now?

Coffee cake or Kringle, 855-752-4842, 855-752-4842.

Matt, listing back at the home station, WMDX in Middleton says coffee cake is worse as it is intended to be dry and needs coffee.

So no thanks.

Well, you got a point there, Matt.

I guess coffee, coffee kind of cuts maybe the sweetness as well.

I don't know.

We'll come back Zomers, I will tell you ours.

Call in, give us your opinion.

What's worse, Coffee Caker Kringle, 855-752-4842, 855-752-4842.

We are live on location in Racine at WRJN on the Civic Media Rating Network.

This is magical.

Here we go.

Welcome back to the Tell All About Show Live, a location at WRJN, WAUK, a radio park, as they say down here, in beautiful Racine, Wisconsin, home of the Kringle, specifically one of our great sponsors, O&H Kringle.

We have some here in the studio, Zombers, Niars, Sharing, gave Mathers a slice as well.

That Zombers...

That is the Kringle song.

There's a song about

Kringle.

That's the Kringleville Poca as performed by the Poca King, Frankie Yankovic.

Wow.

The Kringle Poca.

The

Kringleville Poca.

Kringleville.

Referring to,

of course, Racine.

Right.

Kringleville Poca.

Or Racine.

I did not know that about Kringle Poca.

We're asking you the question on today's segment of What's Worse, Coffee Cake or Kringle?

Coffee cake or crinkle.

I thought maybe nobody would choose either one, but people have some feelings and that's good Let's check the stream here The stream yard whatever on YouTube people watch on YouTube, but we appreciate that Jeff Watching in says the locals make their own coffee cake.

You can't make crinkle at home.

So crinkle is better Yeah, I don't I've never tried making crinkle at home

I thought maybe you can't do it.

I bet you if you had some Kepler elves they could do it Elves can make anything not much.

They can't do no absolutely a Heather our on-site unpaid media intern producer better owns my sister a beautiful old Claire watching on Facebook says a dry tasteless coffee cake is much worse.

I've never had

a bad cringle.

I'll go along with that.

I've had some different cringles in my life.

Never really had them.

I've had like this one today.

You can tell it's fresh.

Oh, you've got to get a fresh

one.

Yeah.

This is just right out of the oven, partner.

So this is great.

But yeah, some of you know, like if you're not blessed enough to live down here in Racine or Kenosha, they ship them all over the state.

And so you might have a cringles a couple of days.

All not quite as.

It's tasty this one today.

It's fantastic.

What's worse coffee cake or Kringle 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 Len Listing in Madison on WMDX says coffee takes the cake and you don't have to chew it So just coffee.

Yeah, by the way, we have some well, I have a found five pound bag

of Wonder State coffee in the in the bus ready to go Zomers.

Jane, Matt, Nair, Greg, Bakken, I'll be making coffee every morning on site.

So stop by and see us wherever we got.

We got paper cups or bring your own cup or whatever you want to do.

The coffee pot will be on as we travel around the state this week.

I'm not going to lie.

You know, I was helping you load stuff into your truck a little bit yesterday and I picked up the bag that had your freshly ground coffee in there.

And I was like,

oh, smell delicious.

It does.

It's really good.

Dave in New Berlin says on your way out of town today.

How about 10 years ago?

There was an OH on the southwest corner of I-94, Wisconsin 20 in the truck stop.

It might still be there.

I think it is.

You might want to get yourself a dozen.

Well, I've got one.

I got a lemon pound cake that I can't wait to have.

I got the Kringle.

I got a couple of donuts.

So I think and Jane McNair is going to be taking some as well.

So I think we're stocked up.

on coffee cake and baked goods from any scene for the weekday, but but I appreciate that.

What's worse, coffee cake or Kringle?

855-752-4842.

855-752-4842.

Jeff on YouTube says it takes three days to complete a Kringle properly.

It's still there.

Oh, I guess it depends on how many people are eating your Kringle.

If you're a, a soul was

referring to the, the O and H, I believe.

Oh yeah.

If Jane and Greg are listening, they're gonna be like, is this okay?

Is this guy okay to drive?

Yes, I'm fine.

Don't worry about it.

Everything will be fine.

All right, Summers, what's worse, coffee cake or crinkle?

I mean, I do love me some coffee cake, but come on.

It's definitely worse than crinkle because I feel like, aside from the taste, which is amazing of crinkle, obviously, and the texture and all of it.

There's also the Wisconsin Pride.

That makes it taste just that little bit better.

Yeah.

I'll definitely go along with that.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

Quickly, let's go to Ollie in the Northwoods.

Ollie, we're gonna be trekking up there with Jane and Greg later on this week.

Cannot wait.

Well, I'll try to save you a piece if you I know that you're a little homebound But if you can get out there to the lot, well,

maybe I'll have to send somebody in after

there you go There you go.

Well, we'll get you.

We'll get you some crinkle.

All right Ollie.

What's worse coffee cake or crinkle?

Coffee cake.

It's a lot drier and there's nothing like a good crinkle,

right?

Oh, absolutely Well stay in touch if we get closer if we if we have to bake good I mean by Friday it might be a little stale, but you know we can see

I bet you'd only be gone by Friday.

It might, it might, to be

honest.

I have a song for you to sing that we used to sing when we went traveling in the car.

Give it to me.

I

know you're doing show tunes, but one for a good laugh is Charlie Brown.

Can you sing us a bar too?

Oh, Charlie Brown, he's a clown, that Charlie Brown.

He's gonna get caught.

Just you wait and see.

Why is everybody always picking on me?

I love it.

I love it.

Nicely done, Ollie.

Absolutely.

Nicely done.

All right.

We'll see if Jane and Greg and I can sing that one on the road.

Thanks, Ollie.

I bet you one of you guys will know

it.

All right.

We'll see you up north.

Thanks so much.

I appreciate you.

Sean, listening on WRCE, back to the old hometown.

Richland Center says, I 100% agree with Heather.

Coffee cake is worse Megan in some prairie on MDX as coffee cake is worse I like to point out that Kringle hasn't been replicated by hostess yet But coffee cakes in their lineup.

I'm putting them in the lineup Kringles are so good and Brian and Green Bay and WGBW Uncle Mike's Kringle in Green Bay is spectacular.

I have to check that one out next time I'm there.

Yeah, I'm gonna agree pretty much with most all of you

My mom's coffee cake is great, but overall, coffee cake is worse.

Kringle, especially here in Racine, much better.

Little news, weather sports, agricultural update, Midwest Farm Report, Pam Yankee in the back with a look at immigration issues in America and Greg Box.

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Why is everybody always picking on me?

R-J-N in Racine on the Civic Media Radio Network.

We are live on location, the first leg of our What Makes Wisconsin great tour for July.

Along with our colleagues, our friends, Jane McNair and Greg Bach, who shall be.

Getting in the bus with us after our show ends.

It could be in Eau Claire.

It could be in Oshkosh tomorrow at the EAA, both for Jane and Greg show, Matt and Aaron air from nine to 11, and then our show from two until four Zomers.

What did you, what did you

dial up there?

I like that.

As recommended by Jeff on YouTube, that is Thunder and Lightning, the big hit from a Racine-born artist, Shy Coltrane.

Wow.

I like that a lot.

Thank you to John and Jeff.

Thank you, Jeff.

She made

it big with that in, I think it was 72, including hitting the top of the charts and the Netherlands.

In the Netherlands,

Abba.

Wasn't Abba Netherlands as well?

I'm not sure.

Heather will know because Kira and Heather are big.

I

should know, but I

don't believe Abba Netherlands as well.

But I'll stay.

They could be Dutch.

I always like doing Swedish with the Dutch.

They're Swedish.

They're from Ikea.

By the way, I thought about briefly, I forgot there's an Ikea down here, and I'm like, ooh, Ikea.

And I thought, do I need anything?

And I thought, well, that's never stopped me before.

Don't do it.

But no, I'm like, no, I gotta go get cringled, and I gotta get to the station, do the show.

But my partner stopped at Ikea.

I don't think there would have been a whole lot of time to go pick up furniture.

No, but mean it's not just furniture.

I know it's like it's like pots and glasses and you know, there's always something you could buy an Ikea a Terry bar our very own Terry bar Watching in on YouTube says fun song Jeff also.

She loved Ali singing as well Jeff says thanks had heard that song in a while

Yeah, Terry.

Ollie says she says Ollie rocks and she does.

She absolutely does.

All right.

Um, by the way, Cam is now gone.

I'm sorry.

We were going to get the Cam and what's worse.

I apologize.

We waited

too long.

I apologize.

Cam.

I apologize.

Cam Heather says, Abba is from Stockholm, Sweden.

Maybe they played Coob.

I don't know.

It's possible.

We're up in Eau Claire for the National Coupe Championship this weekend as well.

Fun, absolutely fun.

Mom watching back home on the old Facebook, she says, proof that Kringle is best, we ask what's worse, coffee cake or Kringle.

Now here she should know.

She helps out with the Lutheran church, St.

John's church after church coffee.

Edie Sift is dead, one of the great people of the church.

She always helps out.

And she is the real deal, real, real.

Norwegian, I believe.

But mom says, proof that Kringle's best take coffee cake to church and a few pieces are left.

I take Kringle and the entire tray is empty.

Gone.

So there, it was like Family Feud yesterday.

In a poll of 100 Lutherans, top five answers on the board.

What is the best post-church snack?

Survey says, Kringle.

Nicely done,

Zomers.

He even brought the sound effects with his turrisine.

Oh, when I said I got the sounds I needed ready, those were some of them.

That was beautiful.

Really, really nicely done.

All right, more what's worse from the road tomorrow.

Again, we're gonna be with Jane and Greg.

Gonna talk to Greg here in a little bit about our trip starting well for us today and for them tomorrow.

All right, I wanna get to this.

A little bit of serious.

I'm not sure if it's news, it's just ongoing news.

But we hear we watch we read the headlines a lot And I think what's missing sometimes is the human element And when I came across this clip yesterday, I thought well that about wraps it up right there.

I Want to play this for you?

It is a young man still in high school Who is an American citizen happens to be Latino

He got caught up or these ice raids Got arrested Finally let go and they had a press conference right after he got out and this guy really strong Holds it together, but he lays out Exactly what's going on here and we all need to hear this I'm not sure the source bombers if you got it in front of you We'll credit it on the back in there after we figured out but here's a young man from Massachusetts after being let go

My

name is Marcelo Gomes de Silva.

I don't want to cry.

But I want to say that that place, it's not good.

It's not good.

Nobody should be in here.

Most people down there are all workers.

They all got caught going to work.

And these people have families, man.

They have kids to go home to.

And there's genuine criminals out there that

people aren't giving attention to, they're getting good people that don't deserve to be here.

I was one of the translators in there because I speak English, Portuguese and Spanish and they would come in there with their papers and they would say, can you translate this for me?

Because I don't want to sign something and get deported.

And a lot of those papers, I'll have to look back at them and be like, you're being deported, like they're taking you out of the country.

I would have to watch people cry.

like people with kids like 10 month-year-old babies it'd be it'd be really hard I haven't showered in six days I haven't done anything the only thing I could do is thank God every day because that's all I would do I would pray there I would talk about the Bible to them sometimes our lunch and dinner would be crackers and I would share with the people there because they're like all 35 year old men who have kids and

And obviously, you know, like they eat more than me, so I gave them food, I shared with them.

I gave them whatever they needed.

I told them about the Bible.

For me to say the Pledge of Allegiance at my school every single day and not have a Bible in a federal agency place, it's horrible.

It doesn't make sense to me because, like, to me, I always choose God first.

And that's all I did there.

I would pray.