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It’s Time For The State To Step Up On Childcare (Hour 1)
The Todd Allbaugh Show · Fri May 16, 2025
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It is now six past the hour of two o'clock on this Friday, TGIF May 16th.
It is a great day to be Wisconsinite.
We have made it to the end of the week, Zommers.
Friday is here.
Thank goodness.
Yes,
I am looking forward to some R&R.
Yes, you and me both my friend Overcast skies little sun poking through here at the world headquarters of civic media in downtown Madison right here on State Street
Rough weather last night summers.
Wow.
We talked about it was kind of breaking out during our show yesterday And I know parts of Wisconsin really got hit hard and I wanted to start off the show just by offering our thoughts our prayers and and and Good vibes being sent out to the communities across Wisconsin who really have gotten some some strong damage of some tornadoes hit touchdown and parts of the state yesterday a couple of stories wanted to hit on hit on here
First of all, from Channel 3, the CBS affiliate here in Madison, great anchor reporter Brady Mallory is in Mayville, Wisconsin today and showing on his Twitter feed some of the storm damage up in Mayville.
But then he's also reporting on this really great inspiring story.
And we've talked about on this program before that the late great
Fred Rogers, i.e.
Mr. Rogers of Mr. Rogers Neighborhood, was fond of telling kids, but really all of us who are kids at heart, he would repeat what his mother told him, that in times of trouble or disaster, look for the helpers.
Look for the helpers.
And Brady Mallory, Channel Three has found
Helpers up in mayville, wisconsin today just kind of north of the beaver dam area and he posts on his twitter brady says call it a post storm Post-it at open door coffee in mayville people are paying forward Which is routine here by buying their neighbors coffee and treats and leaving it post-it notes customers can come in grab a note
and get a free little pick me up.
And it's really awesome.
People saw this this store called open door coffee in Mayville.
People are going and writing kind of inspirational notes to one another on post it notes, putting it on a wall and then buying a coffee order with that so people can just come in who are going through hard times in Mayville today and
get an inspirational message and get a free coffee courtesy of their neighbors.
So a great reporting by Brady Mallory of Channel 3000 and WISC here in Madison.
Those are the kind of things I love.
Those are the kind of stories that in the midst of destruction that people still step up.
And again, this is a great example.
I bet nobody's going into open door coffee in Mayville and saying, well, I want to only make sure that this goes to a Republican voter or a Democratic voter.
Nobody cares.
They're doing it because it's helping each other out.
And that is the spirit of Wisconsin.
That is part of what makes Wisconsin great that I love to focus on and love to talk about in this program because there are helpers everywhere.
All we have to do is look.
It's just there.
We have plenty of people who just want to do the right thing.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
So a big shout out to Brady Mallory of Channel 3 for bringing that story for their broadcast and just thought I would give them a shout out for doing that.
Also, according to the Marshfield News Herald, it says in the town of Colby, and of course Colby, famous for Colby cheese, which was founded here in Wisconsin in the city of Colby, said within hours of a tornado tearing through the Colby area, residents, neighbors, and others were out in the community yesterday.
volunteering their woodcutters and chainsaws to help clear as much debris as possible before the sunset.
The National Weather Service of La Crosse confirmed a tornado near Colby, moving northeast at 45 miles per hour at around 5.21 yesterday afternoon.
Law enforcement confirmed the tornado was on the ground according to the National Weather Service.
The intensity of this storm has not yet been determined.
It says by 7.45 last night, just over two and a half hours later,
Later, groups of volunteers, EMS and electric linemen were out cleaning up the numerous downed trees and grounding the live wires from approximately 20.
downed power structures.
Their focus was getting all of the roads open according to USA Today Network Wisconsin videographers on the scene.
According to Excel Energy's Electric Outage Map, nearly 500 customers in Colby, Spencer and the Unity area were without power due to storm damage as of 12 a.m.
this morning.
Several homes in the Colby area suffered damage as well as a Colby Chrysler Center where the local dealerships once pristine vehicles now sit
battered in dens from flying debris and shattered windows, glass in the parking lot.
Colby Chrysler Center building suffered damages as well.
So thinking about all those folks at Colby, as we said in the Mayville area, I know Juno is also a place that got hit fairly hard and I know there were other communities that I'm not calling out specifically, but to everyone across the state of Wisconsin who was affected by these storms last night, we're thinking of you.
If there's something we can pass along in terms of fundraisers for you, if there's anything that we could do to be supportive, please let us know because we want to do that.
But again, it doesn't matter whether you're in Mayville, paying it forward, buying coffee for your neighbors or folks here in Colby who were already out last night helping to clean up before the sun even set.
And again, who was it?
Groups of volunteers, EMS and electric linemen.
And how many times do we go to parades in the summer or we see a brought stand and it's a fundraiser for our local EMS or volunteers?
And we think, well, I don't know, I don't have time.
Take the time and even if you don't want to brought, give them five bucks, give them 10 bucks, give them 100 if you can afford it.
Because these are the people, our volunteers, our EMS, our first responders, the electric linemen.
All these folks who we don't think of often enough throughout the year, but by golly, when we need them, we need them.
And we're all so thankful that we come out and support.
That's the Wisconsin spirit, folks, right there.
So I wanted to start off the show with a big shout out to our local communities and all those first responders and people who are cleaning up around the state of Wisconsin after those storms.
I believe it might be a couple of much more minor storms, kind of your garden variety, rain and thunderstorms later on this afternoon in parts of Wisconsin that are cool down zombers, kind of cool in the 60s across the state of Wisconsin this weekend, but all in all.
Not too bad.
Can't complain at all.
Big show today.
Coming up at the bottom of the hour, we have Brynn and Mike Schieffer here of the Faith Lutheran Child Care of Cameron, Wisconsin up in beautiful Barron County.
Not too far from our station up there in Amory and they're going to be here.
They are in town lobbying for the child care programs in Wisconsin.
Of course, we had folks on earlier in the week talking about
The Republicans on the joint finance committee who are cutting the funding for childcare in the state of Wisconsin They are down here lobbying on that.
We're gonna talk a little bit about their business and again what these cuts really mean to people
in the childcare industry and people who use the childcare industry.
Those are the things I want to get to is what, what does this really mean to the average Wisconsinite who is in need of or is currently using these services?
So we will talk to them.
Also, and what's worse for today, Todd tends to lose things.
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So the category today lost phone or lost keys.
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Coming up as we said at the bottom of the hour here just after the news and farm report with Pam Young brought a Brynn and Mike Schieffer from Faith Lutheran Care in Cameron, Wisconsin will be here in studio.
They're in town lobbying the legislature on childcare.
Going to catch up with them a little bit and talk about that.
And then after that, going to get into what I
find a beyond disturbing story that the Department of Homeland Security good old Kristi Noem dog shooter that she is is considering a reality show where immigrants compete for citizenship.
You cannot make this up.
We'll discuss that a little bit later Trump firing the FEMA director Trump firing the director of the US Copyright Office Who's gonna be left out there to it's just it's chaos Or is it my former classmate back in high school ones called it Chow's Also, here's a little bit of good news for you Mono Raju from CNN.
You know that guy very famous reporter
I did not know this, as Johnny Carson once said.
He is a University of Wisconsin Madison alum.
I didn't know that either.
He was in town for the West Politics Luncheon and revealed his first big break he got was at the Badger Herald.
And so we'll talk a little bit about that later on this hour.
And we have a quiz for you later on or later on today.
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We're getting into summer now.
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Want to give you a couple of Wisconsin headlines?
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Go to wiswispolitics.com, wispolitics.com, covering the Republican Party of Wisconsin Convention up in Rothschild.
This weekend going on today says even with Donald Trump's president, Donald Trump's win in November, Brian Shimming could soon face moves, a move to remove him.
Quote, somebody else needs to have the opportunity that can fundraise and unite the party.
Unquote.
One former Wisconsin GOP leader said and also said, we really need that ahead of 2026.
If we're going to have a chance to take out Tony Evers or.
The other person of this, not Evers, goes on there.
So what's going on in Rothschild today?
The chairperson, chairman Brian Schimming, is being challenged by, I know this may sound weird to some people, but even in today's iteration of the Wisconsin Republican Party, there is an, I would call it the Uber MAGA part of it.
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Right when he tells us to do it.
Right when he tells us to do it.
And then there are other people like like shimmying and others who are like, hey, you know, basically, yes, Trump's our leader and we love him, but.
We have to kind of adapt things here for for Wisconsin as well.
So he's by the Uber Maga part of the party.
The challenges are coming from Milwaukee County, Brown County, which is Green Bay.
And I think there's a Claire County or the Cross County as well.
So big voting blocks within the Republican Party.
So we'll see how that goes on Monday.
We're going to be joined by somebody from Wisconsin to watch.
Wisconsin Watch will also be at the Republican Party.
of Wisconsin convention this weekend.
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We'll see if we'll see if as I like to call him the shim sham man.
Tony, watching on YouTube says someone dares challenge the shim sham man.
Yes, Tony.
Yes.
As a matter of fact, they're they're going to try.
So we shall see.
We'll let you know on Wednesday whether a Brian Arthur shimming survives that.
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The state Senate votes to make sharing deep fake nude images.
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That's a deep fake.
So the bill's author says legislation is needed to protect residents as AI capabilities advance.
Current law.
does not cover images of real people generated by artificial intelligence, but Senator Andre Jacques and his floor speech cited a DHS study that found that 90% plus of deep fake videos posted online are non-consensual pornography.
The bill passed on a 33-nothing vote.
So there you go, some good things happening.
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coming to you from downtown Madison just a block from the state capital lots of people in town lobbying for different causes as the joint committee on finance pushed together the state budget and we're talking about all week here childcare one of the things that affects all of us across the state of Wisconsin
And here now, joined at the desk, and we're very honored to have them in studio today, are Brynn and Mike Schieffer.
They are the founders and owners of Faith Lutheran Child Care in beautiful Cameron, Wisconsin, in Barron County, not too far from our station up in Emory.
Brynn and Mike, thanks for coming in, welcome.
Thank you very much for having us.
Well,
we're pleased to have you here.
Tell us a little bit about yourselves, how long you've been in the Cameron area and how did you come to start this child care
service?
So we moved to Cameron 2007 and joined Faith Lutheran Church about 2009.
And in 2010, we were like, hey, this is a great space for a child care center, which I had been doing in home off and on and worked at other centers previously, went to the church council, and they loved the idea.
So September of 2011, we opened up a small center.
And it grew from there.
In 2016, we were able to purchase a second center, and that allowed us to care for infants and toddlers on top of preschool and school age kids.
And when COVID hit, that it had a big impact on our church center, and we ended up closing that down permanently in August of 21.
So many dates to remember.
And
so we've been keeping the second center that we purchased.
We've been keeping that going since then.
But it's slowly getting smaller and smaller, harder and harder to find qualified individuals
to
work.
And the funding that we do have, which is federal funding, is set to run out in July.
We have been in town this week.
basically demanding funding for childcare for the state of Wisconsin because once that goes away the estimates are upwards of 25% of centers licensed or certified centers in Wisconsin will close down and the rest will have to raise rates drastically and working families just can't afford it.
How many families and or children do you care for right now?
So I currently have 24 children, roughly 20 families.
Wow.
And then there's five employees.
So we're pretty small.
I mean, we've been as big as between the two centers, almost 70 children and 16 employees.
And now, yeah, but shrinking down.
I have a great base right now.
I don't want to see, you know, I don't want to lose that.
But Mike, don't you think this story is not unique that there are how many, I can't even imagine probably hundreds of childcare facilities like yours that might take care of 24, 30 children.
And you replicate that times hundreds across the entire state.
It affects a lot more people than people might think.
I would agree with that, yeah.
And I'm here more as a representative of support staff.
As far as the husbands and families that are there supporting our wives that are passionate about this and stuff like that.
So we feel it.
long care, storm removal maintenance, things of that nature.
That's my role.
So
you're kind of the maintenance guy of the operation and what other parts of the business do you help with?
That's pretty much yet.
I have my own separate job and stuff otherwise.
But
you run kind of the business side of it together or more or less?
Myself and then we do have like an account an accountant and things like that and we are a board-run nonprofit So any other nonprofits out there that are you know shying away from standing up for childcare?
Please stop get out there and advocate for us.
We need you to I
like to go back to what you said earlier We're talking with Brendan Mike Schieffer from Faith Lutheran Child Care in Cameron, Wisconsin here at our studios
Go back to what you said about you rely on federal funds, but explain to people, these aren't necessarily funds that come directly from the federal government, they come through the state, correct,
currently?
Yes, so it is federal money that's ARPA money from coronavirus is a response to that.
And so this is called childcare counts funding.
We apply every month, so we get a certain amount per child, per staff that we have.
Some of the money goes towards staff bonuses.
and the rest goes towards daily operating expenses.
And like I said, that money is set to run out.
Currently, the state of Wisconsin is only one of six states that provides no, there's no state dollars.
It's only the federal dollars.
The fact that they don't provide any money and this money is running out.
how detrimental it will be to the workforce,
to
every family that counts on us.
Like you just said, we're one tiny center, but you replicate that across the state.
And you're talking about a workforce without care is an economy that grinds to a halt.
And that was what we were trying to show this week.
As somebody who's not in childcare, doesn't have children of my own,
I could appreciate the best I can with you saying, well, we're just one, in your words, a tiny center.
But I know people who run centers as big or smaller than yours.
And I would kind of argue that, but to those families, you're everything.
You might consider yourself a small business, but to those families, you're everything.
Because to try to find alternative care, talk a little bit about the situation in Barron County.
Is there a waitlist for childcare there?
Like in most places?
Yes,
there's always a waitlist every center that is around and there is another Center in Rice Lake that will be closing very soon Decided that they they couldn't stick around for it anymore in which I completely understand I'm hoping that will come out on the other side and will come out successful
So we also have a very good question from Tony watching on YouTube He says has State Senator Quinn helped you out at all?
No.
And he has been invited to our center.
We'll get to that in a second.
But I wanted to just go back because I think this is so fascinating for those of us who might not have kids or not in this industry, when you say that many of the federal dollars now are coming from money that were approved during COVID.
So the question I have is, what did you rely on or what did you use?
prior, were you still getting federal funding prior to COVID or what was the situation then?
No, the only other funding that comes through is Wisconsin shares, which is a subsidy for low income families, but that just offsets their cost.
So there's no other funding.
It was all based on parent rates.
And when our other center closed down, that's when we started going into the red most months.
And so that was it, losing that enrollment is what?
is slowly eating away at us.
So if I get it right, before COVID, it was 100% or close to it on tuition paid for by parents.
Yes, it was.
And I wouldn't say it was good then.
We've always been having this fight, Worthy Wage Day, that just happened here.
And for childcare, we still don't have worthy wages.
Right.
clawing for $13 an hour out of our ask of $480 million.
And currently, you know, childcare workers, we're in the bottom 2% of earners.
And we have one of the most important jobs.
We're raising up the future, the future of the state, the future of our country.
And we invest, the state of Wisconsin is investing, investing nothing in them.
So they should have it right.
There were no federal dollars or very little prior to COVID.
The industry was already probably, I don't want to call life support, but you were facing challenges.
COVID came along.
If you want to call it a silver lining, although I hesitate with the devastation of COVID, if there was any silver lining, I guess, is that these funds were made available, which kind of put up maybe a temporary bandaid on the problem.
They did.
And now that those funds are not being continued by the federal government and the Trump administration,
And the state legislature isn't putting money.
Now we're right back to the crisis mode pre-COVID.
Is that right?
Yes.
Well, we're definitely in crisis mode now.
I mean, with the rising cost of everything, we're in crisis mode.
And no longer can we, myself, my husband subsidize doing this, paying for things out of our own pockets, things like that.
It's time for the state to step up and recognize us.
That was a big thing too when the federal funding did start coming in.
We felt like for the first time, we were seen.
We were, you know, that people saw us and valued what we were doing.
You know, asked us, told us, please stay open.
Please stay open.
Please take care of our first responders and our medical professionals and everybody that had to go to work.
And we did it.
We did it day in and day out.
And it was that that was fatigued.
Let me tell you to not know day to day what was going to happen and no help.
Well, I know we said a story for Colby and Stormstruck Chippewa Valley last night.
I mean, those first responders, those EMS people, well, we need them.
We want them there.
Well, if they have child children, those kids have to have some place to go.
Yes.
And I think people don't associate that ripple effect often enough.
that if the kids don't have, we have a business person on earlier this week that they literally didn't hire someone because the person they wanted to hire didn't have childcare.
And so it ripples down in the economy that way as well.
Yes.
Well, trying to, if you're trying to entice an employee to come from other parts of the country or into your community to support your businesses, they need to have a place to raise their family.
Yes, we need to be family friendly.
So
I
understand you guys are part of Wisconsin Early Childhood action needed and we're down here to lobby the state legislature to try to get this.
So my understanding is you try to get to see your Senator, Senator Quinn and Representative Armstrong.
I know the assembly has been in session this week, but I've heard the doors have not necessarily been thrown open for you.
Correct.
And we have some more stops to make before we head back home today.
I mean, have you met with staff?
Some members of we can have.
And what what is your response when these Republican members of the legislature so far at least their staff?
Maybe there's concepts of a plan
That's encouraging
as I say
sarcastically That's been enormously frustrating because look I mean, what is it four and a half five-hour drive for you guys?
Three hours three hours
three 40 or whatever
it's a little bit of a hike to get down here you stayed overnight
Yes,
and and all you're trying to do is meet with the your elected official
to talk about an issue facing their own district, and the fact that they can't make time for you to me is just, as someone who used to be a legislative staffer in that building, is appalling.
Well, and if you request information through listening sessions, 80% of constituents want child care funded.
We'll come back to talk a little bit more with Brynn and Mike Schieffer from Faith Lutheran Child Care in Cameron, Wisconsin.
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Right now we are here in studio at World Headquarters in downtown Madison of Civic Media.
And in studio we have Brynn and Mike Schieffer.
They are the owners of Faith Lutheran Child Care in Cameron, Wisconsin.
I guess technically owned by the church, but you guys founded it and run it every day.
But I think it's a creative concept because of 501c3, right?
It's what you do it through there, but but you're the ones that really do the day-to-day operations
Yes, well it was a ministry of the church You know they when I when I came to them because the there was a need in our community You know we had a congregation of how many hundred hundred and some people that were like yes, let's do this let's focus on this and
So again, we need to see that collectively, people coming together and supporting the children in
our state.
And as someone who grew up in a faith community, I'm not sure there's a better actual tangible example of true Christianity than taking care of children and taking care of each other.
I mean, some people might not connect that to a faith or a religion, but
To me, as a very, very imperfect Christian myself, that seems to be a fundamental tenet of Christ is to take care of people.
Yes.
Absolutely.
So the irony is not lost on me.
Some of the people block up the street under the capital dome of my former party that I left in 2011, who like to parade around a lot.
You know, it reminds me a little bit, not to get too biblical, a little Pharisees that, you know, like to talk a lot about about.
God and religion, but they don't seem to want you practice it when it comes to putting their mouth or money or their vote where their mouth is.
And to me, if you truly are a person of faith, you would want to make sure that we take part of the $4 billion surplus in the state and fund basic childcare.
And is that too much?
Yeah.
Apparently it is.
No, it is not too much.
Matter
of fact, the ash should be even bigger than the 480 million that we're seeking.
Quality child care is extremely important.
There's varying numbers about the return on investment for every dollar spent on child care, what our returns are.
And I've heard numbers between seven and $13 per dollar that we're spending.
That's phenomenal.
What's the return on investment when we send people to prison?
Can we stop investing in that and start investing in our children in our future?
Well, if you don't want to disclose this fine, but I'm just one of our viewers had a question just roughly What's what's the what's the cost now for a tuition for for a child that goes a daycare?
So in our
Up by me and I know that we're a little on the higher side It's 250 a week for an infant and then school age for full-time is around $200 and I know down here It might be a little closer to $300
a week for
an infant.
Yeah, you know, I think I think I don't say Milwaukee is paying like 25 grand a year.
Yeah, that's you know, you that's one child
right
you start talking about two or three a you know a Making childcare affordable for everybody not
not just certain people.
And I know a big thing on the Republican platform is to not raise taxes, to not take money out of the working man's pocket.
You don't invest in childcare.
We don't have childcare.
It's coming out of your pocket one way or another.
Somebody could lose their entire income because grandparents aren't around to babysit aunts and uncles aren't around to babysit.
You know, most people don't have that luxury.
Quite a few families in my center
You know, they've said they don't know what they would do if we close because they're not around extended family.
And, you know, unless we start, you know, they want to send their kids to the bargain basement on licensed daycare.
Good luck.
You know, you have accidents happening and other bad things.
The your your state senator Quinn representative Armstrong might not want to meet with you I do know for a fact there are some Republicans that listen to this show I'll give you each about a minute work up against the clock here What would you like to say to to the Republican senators representatives on this issue?
Invest in child care now You need us the state needs us that the children need us first and foremost, but the parents and the employers everybody needs us our economy
runs on childcare.
Mike.
I would agree.
And, you know, people might not be showing it with the way they vote currently, but when things start to hurt, maybe their eyes will get opened up and you may not want that.
I have a friend of mine who lives in the Milwaukee area and she and her husband have one child and they said they'll be paying, they're paying $450 a week this fall for a two year old and they have friends with two kids and it's $47,000 a year.
in the Milwaukee area.
And I think Barron County is one of the lowest rates in the state.
So it wouldn't surprise me, obviously, when you get into these areas that those costs grow substantially.
I think that people that don't have children have no idea of the cost.
Correct.
And then people, again, because you don't walk in someone else's shoes, we have the audacity to judge.
and say, well, why isn't that person working?
Why are, you know, what's the big deal?
And they don't understand that it takes so much of the income just to take care of the child.
And to your point, Bryn, that the family networks, the grandparents and things, it just, people have had smaller families and those opportunities aren't there.
So it would seem to me that...
You're literally doing God's work in my opinion.
So thank you both for what you do.
Thanks for making the trip down here.
Thanks for coming on our show.
And I want to continue to follow this.
If we could be helpful to get the word out, to clarify things we're here for
you.
Thank you.
Thank you for having us on and helping us get the message out.
Because yes, you just said it, the people that maybe it's not, they're not faced with it every day.
They don't understand it.
Hopefully this gives them a little more understanding.
Talk to somebody.
Talk
to somebody you know that has children.
Ask them what their struggles are and how you can help.
We appreciate you.
Brynn and Mike Schieffer from Faith Lutheran Child Care in Cameron, Wisconsin.
Thanks for being a part of What Makes Wisconsin?
Great safe travels back up there.
It's a beautiful part of the state, all right?
Thank you
so very much.
Thank you.
Come on back, everybody.
We're going to have hour number two, What's Worst?
Lost Keys or Lost Phone?
And read my next notes, but I can't find them.
Come on back.
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Welcome into hour number two of the big program.
How about Bryn and Mike Schieffer Zommer's?
That was
great.
I
mean, yes, fantastic people, fantastic business owners.
Like you said.
literally doing the Lord's work.
Doing probably the most important job there is taking care of kids.
And just we hear the same or very similar heartbreaking stories so many times across our state and the country, but especially here.
It's
a statewide issue.
I don't care whether you have kids or not.
Even if you're somebody like me that doesn't have kids, childcare is going to affect us one way or the other.
Whether it's in terms of hiring someone, not hiring someone, having places that are under or no staff at all, childcare is a necessity.
And if you weren't with us in the first hour, you guys go back and listen to us at civicmedia.us.
Go to our show page and you can hear the podcast form of it.
It was really a great conversation with the Bryn and Mike Schieffer of Cameron, Wisconsin, childcare providers up there at first Lutheran childcare in beautiful Barron County.
I wonder before we move on, because I thought this was really, really important.
We were talking about the costs up there and after we got off the air, they said, Bryn and Mike said, one of the Republicans
a tax on us basically knocks on us is that we're not charging enough that way it's an unsustainable model because we're not charging enough compared to as I said before a friend that has pays a lot more in the Milwaukee area but Corrine Hendrickson who was on the show earlier this week she
on Facebook is watching and says it's important to note that rural counties cannot charge as much as we don't have the family income to sustain it.
But we still have the costs.
It varies widely.
Supporting families together.org has a state map.
So supporting families together.org.
So be aware of that.
Oh, people calling in.
on my cell phone, though, instead of the, instead of the over the airplane, I should turn that down.
If you want to call in, talk a little bit more about this, 855-752-4842.
855-752-4842.
But Korean brings up a great point.
Coming from rural county myself in southwest Wisconsin and knowing people there that do childcare, if they charge the same prices that say someone in Milwaukee County is charging, they wouldn't have any clients.
or they end or they go out of business because folks in that part of the state other parts of the state just can't afford their wages aren't commiserate with the prices of child care in the Milwaukee area for the most part for the most part so there is a bit of regionality to child care depending upon
what incomes are where in different parts of the state.
So really appreciate Korean watching and calling in about that.
855-752-4842.
855-752-4842.
Let's go to Lori, listening on WMDX here in Middleton.
Lori, thanks for calling.
What do you want to add?
I was just telling your producer that I'm just so impressed with just the staff and the guests and what have you that are on civic media.
They're just good souls.
I don't hear the vitriol and the hate that I hear on other right wing stations.
I mean, it's like truly about goodness and kindness and helping.
And I just, it's just a breath of fresh air.
That's all I can say.
And I so appreciate you all.
Well, you made my day, Lori.
Thank you for your listenership.
Thanks for calling in.
That means so much to me because, look, I'm not always right, but as we say, we pursue the truth, and I want to do it in a meaningful way.
It doesn't mean that I might not have opinions or other people, but I want to do it thoughtfully and not in a mean way, and I hope to get...
information, right?
That's the thing we're really trying to get
out is
honest, truthful, accurate information to lift us all up and do it a little bit of fun along the way and realize that we're all in this together.
So, Lori, really appreciate you.
Have a great weekend, all right?
Thank you so very much.
You, you also sir.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you so very much.
Well, how about that, Summers?
I mean, those are the we love that and thank you very much for for calling in and voicing that support.
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We're going to talk about a serious story.
I know some people think it's funny.
I'll explain why I don't think it's funny.
But Kristi, no, remember her hair extensions?
Former governor of North Dakota likes to make she play a cosplay cosplay.
It's costume play.
She plays police officer because she goes out on these quote unquote raids and she wears the regalia acting like she's a police officer and most
Many actual police officers and military people are always calling her out online on Twitter saying you don't know how to wear a flak jacket.
You don't know how to aim her rifle.
She's a cosplayer.
She's a fake.
All right.
When it comes to when it comes to law enforcement type of stuff, but she does it for and I'm not trying to be.
I guess I am being derogatory.
But I mean, it's like glamour shots.
Glamour shots for cops, basically, when it comes to how she presents herself online.
It's all about the clicks.
You know, I think calling her a cosplayer is an offense to cosplayers because they represent things that they love and do a lot of research into making it right.
And
clearly she has not done that.
She has not done that.
And of course she was the former governor of North Dakota that shot her puppy dog because it wouldn't stop barking.
And now she's the head of the Department of Homeland Security.
Well, she has a new, she's working with the member Duck Dynasty.
Great moments in TV history.
I say that sarcastically.
Duck Dynasty producers are working with Kristi Noem now apparently and they're considering a reality show where immigrants compete for citizenship.
We'll explain.
I kid you not.
Also, I'll give you a quiz here in a bit on Wisconsin tourism.
Tell you why the Trump actions in DC are going to have an effect on places like Wisconsin Dells and Door County and all those great tourist destinations and Monoraju.
University of Wisconsin Madison grad got his first big scoop here in Madison all that and more but right now it's 14 minutes past the hour of three o'clock time once again to play what's worse let's
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All right, timely, timely indeed.
I'm gonna be on the road this weekend, Zommer's going up to Shawano.
That's not how you say it.
Shawano, I'm going to Shawano, just west of Green Bay.
Go up to see Dad and Mary, my stepmom.
Hang out with them a little bit.
And inevitably, when I go on the road, I misplace things.
All right.
And so today's category, what's worse, lost phone or lost keys?
What's worse, a lost phone or lost keys?
855-752-4842, 855-752-4842.
What's worse, when you lose your phone?
Or when you lose your keys, eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two.
Also give us a text on the old civic media app.
Excuse me.
I had a burping here.
What's going on?
All I have is water and coffee.
You understand I'm not drinking any other adult beverages on the air.
Maybe.
Did you earlier?
No, I didn't.
No, I
know.
I'm not a day drinker.
I know, I
know.
That's Pat's job.
No, I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
I only say that because Todd
is maybe next week.
Maybe next week, because we're we're so here's the deal.
I'll let everybody into the little secret.
Crite lows on vacation, but he's going to be back next week.
So we're going to do this show big.
We're on the road for for Wednesday, Thursday and Friday next week on Wednesday of next week.
We're going to do the show from the town of Dunn.
just outside the city of Oregon here in Dane County.
We're going to be at Kopkes Greenhouse, one of our great sponsors here at Civic Media.
In fact, I was just down there this morning, bought some plans to take up to Sean O and we're going to be down and talking to Gordy.
Gordy Kopke and the Senate Law, Josh, who helps now run the place.
Great place, local greenhouse, talking about their big event for the Badger Honor Flight.
They do this every Memorial Day weekend, where they, you come out, they got live music and they got concessions, and then they have an auction for one of these beautiful planters.
And these things are worth about...
80 to 100 bucks if you go out and buy them, but they're gonna auction out all the proceeds go to Badger honor flights to get our veterans out to Washington DC to be honored So it's a great fundraiser.
We're gonna be down in a copkeys greenhouse on Wednesday of next week Talking about that gonna have a lot of fun and then on Thursday and Friday of next week We're going up to Eau Claire the Chippewa Valley and do the show from up there and if the weather holds there is a chance
We will do the show from Pat Critello's Pound Tune Boat next Friday.
Fingers and
toes crossed.
As my friend and former broadcast partner, Kevin O'Connor, is fond of saying great potential, great potential for disaster.
and just he could go either way.
So we'll see.
It could be the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald, but we hope not.
855-752-4842.
855-752-4842.
Let's go to beautiful Brookfield, Wisconsin.
Listen to the NWA UK gym in Brookfield.
Gym lost keys or lost phone.
What's worse?
Well speaking from someone who's lost both probably more than once I would have to say the keys are worse because If you do lose the phone at least you can drive the car to where you think you might have lost it You can also have somebody call that phone, but if you lose those keys you are locked out of your car You're not going anywhere or if you're you know, it's the home key haven't forbid you're not getting into that house So I would have to say lost keys are worse
I appreciate Jim before you go.
Where's the weirdest place you ever found your keys?
At the trailhead at Lampam Peak State Park at the ski trailhead, it was in the middle of winter.
I was about to ski a race out there and I noticed, oh my God, I lost my keys because it's in such a hurry to pull my skis out of the car.
Fortunately, some young youth skier, the kids race, said, mister, are these yours?
And pulled them up out of a snow bank and there were my keys.
Wow.
That's good.
Yeah, it's well, I'm going to wait until after we get up against the clock and do a break.
I'll come back and I'll share with everybody the time I lost my keys and almost my mind and I'll tell you where I ultimately found them.
Your
mind, your marbles.
No, well, I still haven't found those.
But yeah, I've lost my keys.
It drives you crazy, right?
And I reminded of the old George Carlin bit, you know, what he said he said one time, you know.
My mom said, well, you know, I lost the dog.
And she went to say, well, just get up and walk away.
Well, it just got up and walked away.
Come on back.
It's the title of our show for a Friday.
Right in the middle of what's worse, lost voter, lost keys, 855-752-4842.
Give us a call more after this on the Civic Media Ready Network.
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Very, very quickly.
Twenty-two now past the hour of three o'clock.
What do you dial up?
There's hours.
Party up by DMX just because, you know, it talks about losing your mind and,
you know.
People that know me well know that I often lose my mind.
We're talking about losing things.
What's worse, lost phone or lost keys?
Way in.
855-752-4842.
855-752.
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It appears that Todd is no longer audible.
Really?
Oh, now we can.
Nope.
Briefly, your microphone stopped working.
Everybody, we're
good.
Lots of things have stopped working with Todd.
I lost the connection
momentarily is what I think happened.
My my sister listen listening up a beautiful Eau Claire after after getting out of school here She's a teacher.
She says the song in every teacher's head at the end of May
Once
worse lost phones or lost keys 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 or text us on the civic media app.
Alright, so before the break
I once lost my car keys, my truck keys.
Let's drive a Dodge Ram.
And this has been several years ago now.
And I came and I was, I'd come home, I'd run some errands and gone grocery shopping.
And then I was going to go out later in the evening and I could not find my keys.
And I'm like, where on earth?
And I tore everything up.
I went through like dirty clothes piles, even though I hadn't changed my clothes.
You know, you look every you look in the stupidest places, like I throw them in the trash can.
Did I I went down to my truck.
The truck was locked.
I looked inside.
I leave and no, no, I had to.
I couldn't have left them inside because I needed it to get into my apartment.
So they had to be in the apartment.
Well, they finally to bring the story to the clothes.
I finally found them.
I opened up the freezer and
I
put the keys because I put like whatever, eggos or ice cream or something in the freezer I bought and I must have had in my hand and just in a rush I put the keys in the freezer.
And that was several years ago and I thought, good, gosh, do I need to go get myself checked?
But you're paying it, right?
Do weird things
when you're in a rush, yeah.
Also, Ellen and Cedarburg called in.
I don't know if I accidentally hung up on her or what, but we seem to have lost Ellen and Cedarburg.
If you want to call back
in, we'll definitely
take your call.
Otherwise, I'll share what she said with me if we
don't hear from her.
Well, call in Ellen.
And Cedarburg has a great cheese factory as well, by the way.
Cedarburg cheese.
Give us a call back, Ellen.
We will not hang up on you this time.
All right, Zomers, what's worse, lost phone or lost keys?
I think.
I don't know, I think I am gonna have to go with lost phone being worse.
If it's dead, if you don't have an easy way to find it, because if you lose your keys, you can call somebody else to pick you up or whatever.
True.
But at the same time, I know that you can also have someone call your lost phone if it's not dead.
I don't know, it's a tough one because either can help you get the other.
Yeah, yes, I absolutely agree.
I'm gonna go though with one of our earlier callers I think if I lose my phone especially now with the with the newer iPhone I got here this year upgraded and so he has to find my phone and all that so so I feel like if I
I mean, I would, I have panicked if I misplaced my phone.
But if I lose my keys, I can't, especially if I'm out somewhere, I can't get into my truck.
I can't get into my apartment.
You know, I don't know.
I feel more helpful, helpless, I think, when I lose my keys.
A couple more calls here.
855-752-4842.
Here we go.
Ellen and Cedarburg calling back.
Ellen, I'm sure we hung up on you earlier, but thanks for calling back.
Lost phone or lost keys?
What's worse?
Well, they're both awful.
And they happen to me all the time.
I would say lost keys because with a phone, if my daughter taught me, somebody else can call the phone.
And if your phone is on, then you'll find it.
Yeah.
That's a very practical and good answer.
So I appreciate that.
By the way, what's your favorite Cedarburg cheese?
Oh my gosh, it would have to be Parmesan.
Really?
All
right, that's
interesting.
I've never, I've never tried that before, but I'll give it a try.
You have great cheese up there in Searbury.
All right, thank you, Ellen.
Have a great weekend.
Thank you so very much.
Yeah, I appreciate you.
One more here.
Tony on, uh, watching on YouTube says keys are worse when you lose them.
You could drive to work without your phone.
Great point, Tony.
Absolutely.
All right, they're
being convinced.
That wraps up another edition of What's Worst Here For Today.
We'll be back on Monday with a brand new edition of that.
I want to mention this quickly here before we get out of here at the end.
I have a news update that will come back with this more serious story on Kristi Noem.
But Manu Raju, great reporter at CNN, was back in Wisconsin at a West Politics luncheon this week and
He's a badger.
I did not know that he graduated from the University of Wisconsin-Madison and he broke a legendary story in 1999 before he ascended to CNN as an anchor and the network's chief congressional correspondent.
Now, I'll kind of summarize this quickly, but back in November 13th, 1999 at the Wisconsin versus Iowa football game at Cape Randall, Ron Dane broke the NCAA's all-time rushing yards record and that was the big story.
But
As it turns out, he did the highest one at the 50 yard line that let him run all the way to the 100 yards down the field and the crowd is going crazy.
And nobody knows who it was because it was pre-iPhone.
They didn't show it on TV.
I'm not talking about Ron Dane, by the way.
I'm talking about a guy who was a streaker who ran out on the field but naked.
But Raju knew and he interviewed Tim Condon.
Condon for the Badger Herald identifying the Streaker, and that was his first big story.
Raju said, and then he became a true campus legend.
People were having house parties for him, raising money to pay off his fines he'd gotten.
He was the news.
Wow.
So you never know what your big break is going to be for Mono Raju.
It was the Camp Randall Streaker.
Back with more serious news after this is the All Balls show for a Friday.
You're listening to Civic Media all across the great state of Wisconsin on the Civic Media radio network.
Welcome back to the Taliban show on the civic video.
You're ready to work is now 35 minutes past the hour of three o'clock.
Glad to have you along Aaron Zahmer is on the board to get to this story on Kristi Nome in a minute, but first some breaking news and also some special weather statements.
I want to pass along to you.
We talked about this at the top of the show that after the thunderstorms and and tornadic activity that rolled through the state yesterday, there was a chance for kind of more pop-up garden variety showers and thunderstorms and a possibility of severe weather this afternoon.
And now that is happening and we want to bring you up to speed on this.
I want to start first of all for our listeners on WISS and Oshkosh and WGBW in Green Bay and Zama
this is for your old hometown area, the Manitowoc area.
There is now a severe thunderstorm warning in effect until 4 p.m.
for Manitowoc County.
At 332, a severe thunderstorm was located near Manitowoc, moving northeast at
45 miles per hour.
60 mile per hour wind gusts and quarter size hail have been associated with this storm.
So if you're in the Manitowoc area and two rivers area, certainly get to shelter and be inside at this time.
Again, a severe thunderstorm warning for Manitowoc County until four PM this afternoon.
Then moving closer for our WMDX listeners in the Madison area.
There is now a severe thunderstorm warning in effect until 4 15 this afternoon for southeastern Iowa County and Western Dane County.
And looking at the radar there, there is a severe thunderstorm right now.
Basically right on 18 151 between Dodgeville and Mount Horrib.
And that storm like the Manitowoc storm is moving
north northeast right now.
And so towns in the path of this storm, certainly in the Mount Horeb area, Barnabale right now, parts of Verona, Middleton, Wanakee, and the city of Madison will be right kind of on the edge of that storm.
So be aware that that thunderstorm warning lasts until 4.15 this afternoon.
Those are the only official severe thunderstorm warnings right now in effect across the state of Wisconsin.
They have a
a special weather and well, they actually just upgraded it from a weather advisory now to another severe thunderstorm warning.
This one in effect until 415 this afternoon for Waukesha County.
So our listeners on WAUK in the Waukesha County area.
This is for you, Waukesha County, also southeastern Jefferson County.
So parts of MDX listening area there.
So again, that one lasts until 415 this afternoon.
Zooming in our radar right now, we can see that the storm is just right around the Palmyra area, and that is moving east northeast right now.
So areas in that path of that storm are Rome, Eagle.
Ottawa, North Prairie, Douseman, Summit, and then Waukesha area, Pewauke area, Heartland, and eventually Brookfield.
So be aware of that.
That's a severe thunderstorm warning in effect until 4.15 this afternoon.
So if you're in the Waukesha area, certainly in the Jefferson County area, also in part of Eastern Iowa County and Western Dane County, including ultimately the city of Madison, and then Manitowoc County,
also all under a severe thunderstorm warning at this time.
Also for listeners on WGBW in just north of there, our good friend Pete Schwabba in the Marinette area just kind of.
west of Marinette.
There is also a severe not they don't qualify as severe but they're calling it a strong thunderstorm right now for Marinette, Menominee, Accanto area and that storm is moving through there strong but not severe at this time.
So hopefully not as destructive as yesterday's storms but wanted to bring you that.
There is a cluster of stronger to severe weather moving from say Reedsburg, Wisconsin and Southwest Wisconsin down to the Illinois
line and all of that is headed to the east northeast right now.
So be aware of that.
We'll continue to update you as we go through the afternoon.
Also breaking news over the wires at this time.
Many thanks to Zomers for giving me the heads up on this.
The U.S.
Supreme Court this afternoon has blocked President Donald Trump from moving forward with deportations under the 1798 Alien Enemies Act for a group of immigrants in northern Texas, siding with Venezuela.
who feared they were poised for imminent removal under the sweeping wartime authority.
The decision is a significant loss for Trump who wants to use the law to speed up deportations and to avoid the kind of review normally required before removing people from the country.
But the decision is also temporary and underline legal fights over the president's invocation of the continued
invocation has continued simultaneously in multiple federal courts across the country.
No doubt Maggie Dawn will have updates on this being the attorney that she is on her show.
But again, the breaking news at this hour, according to the wires, the US Supreme Court blocking President Trump from moving forward with deportations for now under the 1798 Alien Enemies Act this afternoon.
So lots of news going on.
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42 minutes now past the hour of three o'clock.
Wanted to bring this to you because and I get it some people are gonna say well that's kind of funny I guess I don't I just don't find anything funny about it and I was listening to a friend's show earlier today and She said this and I thought it was really well said I'm paraphrasing If you've never known an undocumented person you're good at this is gonna hit different
than if you do.
I have lots of people in my life, people in my family are Latinos, Latinas.
I know people who are here who are documented, and I've known people in my life who have been undocumented.
And I've walked at least with them.
Obviously, I never walked in those shoes, but I've walked beside them.
And so this story to me is just pathetic.
It's sick.
And
I think it is disqualifying to have someone like Kristi Noem as the Homeland Security.
This comes to us from the Wall Street Journal.
You can find other places as well.
The Department of Homeland Security is considering reality shows, a reality show where immigrants compete for citizenship.
The Department of Homeland Security is considering being part of a television show in which immigrants would compete for potential U.S.
citizenship.
An idea the producer pitched as far back as the Obama administration.
Department spokesperson Trisha McLaughlin said she had spoken to the producer of the proposed television reality show and that consideration of the idea was ongoing.
It is, quote, in the very beginning stages of that vetting process, unquote, she said.
Adding.
quote, each proposal undergrows a thorough vetting process prior to denial or approval, unquote.
The pitch for the proposed citizenship competition show comes from the mind of Rob Warsaw, a producer and writer whose credits include the Duck Dynasty reality show.
Warsaw, who emigrated from Canada, by the way,
told the Wall Street Journal that the show is meant to be hopeful and a celebration of what it means to be an American citizen.
These are his words, Warsaw quote.
This isn't the hunger games for immigrants, he said.
Immigrants already in the system would compete in various contests, including potentially an American history and science, also Warsaw stressed, and that losing contestants would not face deportation.
Quote, this is not, hey, if you lose, we're shipping you out of the boat to another country, unquote.
Warsaw's outreach to the Department of Homeland Security was earlier reported by the Daily Mail.
Now, apparently, I'm going to paraphrase the next part.
I don't want to say the phrase in the business.
It makes me sound like I'm some big insider.
I'm not.
But it's commonplace.
Put it that way.
It's commonplace in this industry.
If you are pitching something, you have something called a deck or a slide deck.
It's basically a fancy way of saying a PowerPoint presentation.
Yeah.
So the Wall Street Journal got ahead, got a hold of a 36 page slide deck where he outlines this reality show.
All right.
And in one challenge,
In this deck, the pitch in San Francisco, for example, immigrants would compete in a gold rush competition where they're sent into a mine to retrieve the most gold.
In another episode, contestants will be divided into teams and placed on an auto assembly line in Detroit to reassemble the chassis of a Model T. The slide deck envisions the show beginning with the contestants sailing to Ellis Island.
where they're greeted by the show's host, a famous naturalized American.
Says as examples, the producers suggest actors Sophia Vagara, of course she made her name on Desperate Housewives, Ryan Reynolds, other people, the contestants would then travel across the country on train after each episode, one seat on the train would be eliminated.
What do you think of this?
eight five five seven five two four eight four two eight five five seven five two four eight four two I have some thoughts
Can
you imagine
if this were people waiting on kidney transplants?
And then they made them compete to see which one of you is gonna get a kidney the other ones will probably die But I which one of you is gonna get a kid like that would be disgusting.
How is this any different?
It's just it's
I can't think of much more than be demeaning to someone who's I mean, I like to say I know people who are here documented undocumented I know people have gone through the process legally and here's what people don't get unless you've gone through it unless you know people have gone through it I assisted people going through it when I worked at the congressional office and handled immigration issues It can take years everybody says we'll do it the right way It can take years and even when you come here
under one status that's legal you apply for a renewal of that and because both republicans and democrats don't fund the immigration services enough it takes years for this stuff to get approved and while they're waiting they become undocumented and now to say well if you want to go on tv and you know it is the hunger games give me a break
Just like the movie, the Hunger Games, it's putting humans out there and say, I mean, it's like the Roman Coliseum.
Are you not entertained?
And they're using human beings.
And don't give me this crap about, well, you know, if we wouldn't send them back.
People are being arrested right now in courthouses in Wisconsin, who are coming their hat in hand to immigrate here, the quote unquote.
right way, the legal way, and they're being arrested, and they're being deported.
This crap is sick.
Take your phone calls after this.
It's a tunnelball show for a Friday on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Welcome back to the Tahleball show on the Civic Media Radio Network where it is now eight minutes before the hour of four o'clock at the top of the hour.
ABC and CBS News, a weather update for you.
Mike Clemens on the sports desk.
Brewers, by the way, play tonight at six thirty five against the Minnesota Twins and Fam Field.
We'll have that for you on Richland Center.
Oshkosh, Racine Kenosha, Park Falls, and Hayward over the air only.
So be ready for that.
Then another edition of the Maggie Dawn Show from four until six and our friend Pete Schwabba from six until eight.
My guess is Maggie will be breaking down big story of the day, the Supreme Court, U.S.
Supreme Court this afternoon, blocking President Donald Trump from moving forward with deportations under the 1798 Alien Enemies Act.
For a group of immigrants from Northern Texas, the Supreme Court sided with Venezuelans who feel who feared they were poised for imminent removal under the sweeping wartime authority.
Other big news the afternoon, weather want to update you on that.
A severe thunderstorm warning continues for our listeners on WISS and Oshkosh and WGBW in Green Bay for Manitowoc County.
severe thunderstorm warning in effect until 4pm this afternoon for Manitowoc County.
That storm now has moved north of Manitowoc proper according to radar now in the two rivers area.
So be aware of that.
That severe thunderstorm warning continues.
The other severe thunderstorm warning that we had for you in the Dane County area has the first one that we had
is now canceled because the storm moved a little north of where it was originally headed.
But there is a new severe thunderstorm warning right now that remains in effect until 4.15 this afternoon, particularly for northwestern Dane County.
So the worst of the storm is not going to head towards Madison proper
No, but if we zoom in right now that severe storm is right over the top of Black Earth and Mazemany and Headed in the prayer to sack direction and then also going to affect kind of the northern side of Middleton and Wannakee by the way, summer is the only Wannakee in the world.
Did you know that
I did want a
key is in the path of that storm So if you're in the town of Springfield if you're Wannakee if you're in Westport if you're on the north side of Lake Mendota, you're gonna want to be
the Middleton area a severe thunderstorm warning for you until four fifteen this afternoon.
Sixty mile per hour winds and penny size hail associated with that storm will continue to watch these throughout the afternoon.
Right now I want to finish up on this story.
We're talking about Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem with the I'll call it a sick idea working with producers of the former show Duck Dynasty to create a reality show where
immigrants to the United States will be put on TV in competitions to win an expedited, basically, golden ticket to US citizenship.
855-752-4842.
Let's go up to you.
Beautiful Eau Claire on WCFW, the TAP.
Jean and Eau Claire, thanks for calling, Jean.
We'll see
you.
Oh, thank you so much for bringing up this issue.
It is
Puget and vile and grossly insane.
These people have no place in the great United States of America.
They need to be walked out and taken right over for mental health.
Thank you for bringing this up.
I was sickened when I saw it.
I thought these people don't take our country serious.
And in fact, they don't care about our country.
And I hope people pay attention to this because this is not.
the people of our country.
Thank you, Todd.
Thank you so much for people who need to pay attention.
These people are not normal and watch them when they're in their meetings.
Pay attention to these people because they don't care about our country and they're taking it down the gutter.
Thank you so much, Todd.
You guys have a great weekend and thank you.
Bye-bye.
Thanks, Gene.
You have a great weekend up there, beautiful Eau Claire as well.
Well, I first saw it.
My first reaction was this is a can't be real somebody somebody this quoted this and sir And so like I I dug down and found a couple of sources and then they confirmed it and then DHS confirmed it and so no no Yeah, it it that initial
that initial disbelief was quickly replaced by a gut wrenching disgust.
Yeah, I Yeah Again, we were at the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee last summer
And I saw all the signs that said mass deportations now and it just It had a real effect on me.
I think that part of the convention more than anything else Because it's just so mean spirited and it's just so in my opinion anti-American I've had the honor and privilege of being
Going to New York City and going to Ellis Island and visiting the Statue of Liberty I've had the distinct honor and pleasure it was it's probably ranks right up there along with helping military folks as The greatest honor I've had when I worked on immigration issues for former congressman Clug That when you would help someone work through the paperwork and oftentimes cut through the red tape of doing it the right way quote-unquote
That people would invite you then to their swearing-in ceremonies to their naturalization services And I can see almost not quite as I look out the window here downtown Madison the federal courthouse And I've gone there and witnessed people being sworn in as US citizens a friend of mine who immigrated here from El Salvador
who had a very long and difficult process to get to a legal status and then to get a green card and then to be naturalized.
And I went to his naturalization ceremony was at the Staples Center in Los Angeles.
And there were thousands of people there.
And to see them all take the oath of naturalization and the US flags and what that moment meant is extraordinary.
And the people that want to come here and participate, people like me are the fortunate ones, right?
We were born here.
We're naturally Americans.
The people who are naturalized, they believe in the American dream probably more than those of us who were born here because they had to work for it.
And that should be rewarded.
And it should never be taken lightly and certainly never be made.
fun of.
Thanks for a great show today, everybody.
Thanks to a Bryn and Mike Schieffer from beautiful Barron County.
Thanks to Zomers.
Thanks to Luke Mathers for helping to set up the show today and all of you for listening, whatever you're fighting for, whatever you believe in, do not give up.
Keep banging your drum.
We'll see you Monday.
This is Aaron, Todd's producer.
Thanks for tuning in for this weekend's Best of the Todd Alba Show.
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And now, pursuing truth wherever it may lead, here's your host, Todd Alba.
Across
Wisconsin on the Civic Media Radio Network and streaming worldwide on the Civic Media app.
Good afternoon, everybody.
I'm Todd Albaugh, along with our producer and engineer, the fantastic Mr. Aaron Zommers on the board.
It is six past the hour of two o'clock.
Welcome into the Civic Media World headquarters in downtown Madison on State Street.
It is Tuesday, May 13th, 2025.
It is a great day to be Wisconsinite.
Overcast skies here in the capital city, but pretty warm temperatures.
Forecasters saying that rain will move through parts of Wisconsin, kind of on and off today, maybe more heavier rains in the evening, kind of depends on where you're at.
Great show today.
Cannot wait to get into it.
Our friend and ongoing contributor, it's been a while since she's been here.
Way too long, as a matter of fact, in my opinion.
It'll be great to have her back.
She is a positive psychology coach, Ms.
Kira Saban.
is going to be here and looking forward to talking with, it's gonna be a start of a three-part series today, next Tuesday, and the following Tuesday.
And of course, this is Mental Health Awareness Month.
And one of the things that, you know, I kind of set up an informal editorial agenda for the show for the year, one of the things I wanna spend more time on is mental health and mental health awareness.
And I think oftentimes,
you hear that phrase or people hear that phrase and immediately they think of an ultimate crisis.
Oh my gosh, someone's thinking about harming themselves or the worst possible case scenario.
And while that is certainly a part of it, mental health could just be really being depressed or down or lonely to the point where it brings us down or performance down all around.
It's not necessarily quite a crisis.
but it can lead to that.
And so we're gonna talk to Kira over the next three weeks about what we can do.
If you're like me folks, you're looking at the news and you're being like, what can I actually do to make a difference?
And for three days this month, today, next Tuesday and the following Tuesday, we're gonna focus on community.
And we're gonna say, what can we do in our communities to help ourselves?
and to help one another.
And Kira Saban is gonna be here to walk us through that.
So it's always great to have her along.
That's coming up here at 20 minutes past the hour, this hour.
Then at hour number two, talk a little what's worse.
And I did not set this up this way, but today's what's worse, guilt or shame.
Yeah, it fits
perfectly.
It does.
It does fit perfectly.
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The Brewer is taking on Cleveland again.
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And that's coming up on on on Friday.
So that's and then all kinds of other just out of those numbers.
We were talking before the show.
I said, I said, part of the theme of today's show should be what's wrong with people.
Yeah.
There's just what's wrong with people.
I mean, we every other week, we have Peter Ray behind managing editor of ebombs world to talk about crazy people things or crazy things that people do that are funny.
Right.
But before the show, we got repeated news alerts of crazy things people did that were not funny.
One of the things we'll be talking about hour two, Wisconsin schools warn parents.
about viral TikTok challenges involving setting their Chromebooks on fire.
Again,
I
asked the question, what's
wrong
with people?
This is the Todd Pods all over again.
I mean, yeah, exactly.
Only instead of little kids, it's like high schoolers, for good of sake.
And David Hogg, remember him?
I got myself some hot water over David Hogg.
Well, now, according to NBC, the Democratic National Committee panel recommends a redo.
vote that elevated David Hogg to vice chair after procedural
concerns.
And yeah, you know who's leading that effort?
Who?
The person he beat.
Yeah, I know.
Well, we'll get into it now or two.
There's
a lot to unpack there.
I love overturning elections.
I'm just entertained by it all.
I'm just entertained by it.
It's ridiculous.
It really is.
First, I want to get to a bit of breaking news here for our listeners in Madison on WMDX.
This comes to us courtesy of Channel 3000, Channel 3, the CBS affiliate here in Madison.
Madison police are investigating today after a man was shot in the foot while making a delivery downtown.
Officers responded after the man arrived at a local hospital.
He reported that he and a woman were making a food delivery.
along the 200 block of South Park Street at around 340 a.m.
Let me say that again.
340 a.m.
When he heard a loud bang and felt pain in his leg, the man's injuries were not considered life-threatening and no arrests have been made as of this afternoon.
So as if you have information regarding the shooting, you could call Madison Area Crime Stoppers at 608-266-6014, that's 608-266-6014.
I'm glad, you know, the guy's gonna be okay, but I didn't know you could order food at 340 in the morning somers to be honest.
Oh, you can order food whenever you want from... I
mean, on campus, they have those cute robots that travel around and deliver.
I didn't know you could just...
Who's making food at 340 in the morning?
McDonald's, probably.
You think depending on the location some of them.
I was I was surprised some of them around here are not 24 hours I thought they all had to be by law or something
see Matt listening on watch on Facebook has the same question Delivery from where what's open at that time?
It's probably just McDonald's maybe Taco Bell or
Chabita or Chaba.
What's it
called?
Yeah, you know what good point.
It's probably Chiba.
Their whole thing is catering to high people
I shouldn't be laughing about this, but I find it kind of entertaining.
The guy's gonna be okay, so just relax.
It'll all be fine.
So that's the, we'll stay on top of this if we have, we'll find out where, wouldn't it be interesting to find out where the food is being ordered from?
That
would be interesting.
And by the way, what happened to the food that was being
ordered?
Yeah,
did it get delivered?
Did he just drop it and run?
Was this individual shot in the foot after delivering the food before?
I don't know, the moral of the story is just
don't order food at 3.40 in the morning.
And practice gun safety, keep them locked up.
Yes, keep them locked up.
All right, so that's the breaking news there.
Other quick announcement before we bring Kira Saban on, because we talked about this for a couple of days here before the show, we were looking forward, and we still are, by the way, to having former Wisconsin Badger star and star of the NFL, Montae Ball on the show.
We were looking forward to it, as was he.
However, as it turns out, in these days of airline travel in the United States, unfortunately, his flights got canceled and kind of rebooked.
And so Montaigne's gonna get into town until later on after the show, and he's traveling.
So it just, it worked.
Unfortunately, he's not gonna be on the show today.
But he was very apologetic.
I said, don't worry about it.
Take care of yourself first.
And he promised to rebook.
We'll have him on the show soon.
soon here on the show.
But one of the reasons, and again, this goes to our focus on mental health awareness, that one of those, Montee has a great story.
Obviously a very talented football player and a friend of our friend, our mutual friend, Brady Ewing, who played on the Wisconsin Badger team with him.
But Montee also went through a time of addiction.
And it was a pretty tough time for him.
He's been very public about it.
He has gone through recovery, and now he is helping others.
And there is an event tonight, and I understand there are still tickets available.
There is an event tonight.
in Madison tomorrow, tomorrow.
Good, good.
Gosh, Todd, get the story straight tomorrow at Wednesday.
The event is tomorrow Wednesday, May 14th.
It is called a fireside chat with Monte Ball and our old friend, Kristen Brie, who is a columnist for the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, and of course has her own brand of as goes Wisconsin on the socials.
And as they say, it's not another network.
But we love her.
She was she's a great friend.
She is going to be the moderator.
She has been doing.
a series of this around the state through the Journal Sentinel.
And so Monte Ball, Kristen Brie, tomorrow at the Cooper's Tavern here on the square, it begins at six o'clock and goes until 8.30.
And it's an opportunity to socialize, but to hear Monte's story, to perhaps ask some questions.
And I think that we're all gonna be, I'm gonna be there.
I'm bringing a friend.
And again, I talked about this yesterday.
Speaking of the Ewing's Brady's dad.
I was a Michelin Center last week in the past weekend and he and I had this great conversation and it makes us feel better when we're around other humans.
And I also think that we look at guys like Monte Ball, phenomenally popular and talented.
And as a fan, we look at a person like that and think, well, they got everything worked out.
I mean, they're living the dream.
And it's a great reminder as much as I wish that Monte hadn't had to go through his journey that he's gone through, but it's a great reminder, especially when somebody like Monte Ball is so public about it and then uses that to do good and encourage and help others.
It's a great reminder that nobody hasn't figured out.
We all have a journey and we're all going through something.
And when you can hear it from somebody like Monte Ball,
Personally, I think it's just gonna be a very encouraging evening.
It's gonna be, and also you got Kristen Brie there.
So you know there's gonna be some laughs and just some lightness to it as well.
Anyway, that's the plug for that great event.
And again, Montay will be on the show soon.
He was very apologetic.
I said, hey, family comes first.
You gotta take care of those things.
And as we all know, air travel is a touch of go right now.
So anyway, we're gonna come back and reset a little bit here.
Talk to Kira Saban, a positive psychology coach.
And during the break, maybe it's kind of a good prep time for all of us to be thinking about what can we control and what can't we control during these times?
We can't take it all on at once.
That's just not mentally healthy and mentally good, right?
It's just too much for any one person.
It is too much.
So we'll be talking about things what we can control, what we can't control.
And next week, we'll be talking about healthy ways to cope the second in our three-part series.
But we're going to start it with things we can control, things we can't control, and personal needs conversation.
How about that?
It could get very personal.
I'm
sure it tends to.
Can we bring Kira on so that Todd has a therapy session on the air, basically?
And we hope it does some good for other people as well.
No, no, no.
It's going to be fantastic.
Stay tuned.
A conversation with Kira Saban, a positive psychology coach on the other side, you're listening to a Tuesday edition on the Todd Allball Show, and you're listening to Cross Wisconsin to the Civic Media Ready Network.
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Past the hour of two o'clock on Tuesday, May 13th.
Glad to have you along here.
Mental health awareness month.
She was just a small town girl living a few blocks from me in the same small town.
She took the midnight train out.
Now look at her.
Now look at her.
She is a positive.
Midnight train.
Yeah.
What midnight train at Richland Center.
Okay.
They took the drain tracks out when I was in high school, I think.
Positive psychology coach, Ms.
Kira Saban, you could find her at Thrive with Kira, and make sure you spell the without, W-I-T-H, Thrive with Kira, that's K-I-R-A dot com.
Kira Saban, it is great to have you back.
I am so excited to be here, as always, Todd.
I chose that music because you pointed me one of your Insta posts recently about the 80s in which we both grew up in.
I'm a little older than you, but it was a great post, all those 80s memories.
I've been finding that nostalgia really hits me lately.
And so I started posting things that made me really happy.
And then it's crazy because other people, they made them really happy too.
So I weekly do a manic Monday where I post videos and commercials and TV shows.
Last night I did post the...
Circus of the Stars, if you remember that
from the 80s.
As
well
as I think last night was also Battle of the Network stars.
I'm so amazed by what they got TV stars to do in the 80s that would never exist today.
That's amazing.
It's so cool that you brought up this nostalgia because, and Kira knows my mom, I went flower shopping for Mother's Day.
And I usually get the flowers from the front pots.
And I've gotten different.
Well, I go to, by the way, Kopke's greenhouse that the town had done outside of Oregon, one of our sponsors here at Civic Media.
Great place to go get your plans.
And I was thinking, you know what?
I try to get something kind of unique, but I was looking at the geraniums, Kira.
the red and white geraniums, I'm like, that just made, I just remember like growing up and it made me feel nostalgic and it made me feel good.
But I thought that was too on point.
And so I got her kind of purple and white geraniums.
Well, Linda, you'll have to tell us how you feel about that now that you know,
right?
But the nostalgia, we need comfort
these
times.
We really do.
We really do.
I also do Fluffy Friday, where I just put up happy animal videos.
Oh, okay.
OK, yeah, not furry Friday, fluffy Friday.
So very different things.
Very different things, more like kittens and pandas.
So that OK.
Our mutual friend, ongoing contributor, Jeff Perry on Facebook says, Kira, last night we watched the very first episode of Threes Company.
How about that?
Oh my
gosh.
Another morning.
I love.
Yeah, there is no more like and then you have to watch Alice after it though.
I know right?
All right We could do we can sit here and I have old home week all week But I think these are this is a good table setter You've been so kind as to agree to do a three-part series today next Tuesday and the following Tuesday for mental health awareness month And I love the fact that you're willing to do this because you've come on the show before There's crazy times right now politically
And for me at least, and I'm just gonna put this out there on the air.
I don't care because I'm always interested in curious opinion.
I've been struggling recently with this show because I hear from people from their 20s through their 70s.
Todd, we just can't, we turn you off sometimes because we get overwhelmed.
We just don't wanna hear the news.
We know it's important.
I just don't think, Kira, that I could come on this show every day and say the world's on fire.
It's a crisis every day.
You've talked to how humans are wired before.
Let's start there, that human beings are just literally not wired to be in crisis mode every day, right?
At all.
I mean, I love to think about, you know, being from Wisconsin, like our grandparents and great grandparents, they were mostly farmers, you know, they barely had any
emergency situations and we now turn on our phones and there's like trigger emergency every second and our brains are not meant for that, right?
Our brains are not able to really take that in and so it can overwhelm us, it shuts us down and then we can't exist and then we can't be human.
And I think that that's happening everywhere because one of the things that Todd and I talked about recently, we were just talking about this is just out of
think people in our country are happy right now, whoever you are, well, whoever you voted for.
We are struggling as a nation, and we are seeing the results of that.
And so even though you look at things politically, I look at things through psychology and humanity.
And humanity wise, we are we are struggling.
But I also know that the world has always been struggling.
since the day we are born and probably the day we will die.
Whether we see it in our neighborhoods or our backyards or in our communities, you know, that's true.
But we get to choose what we think about.
We get to choose where we put our money and our power and our time and our energy.
And that's what I want to talk about today, taking back our control, like looking and putting our time where it makes sense.
Because otherwise, we get so overwhelmed, we become paralyzed and we do nothing but worry.
And I think this is great.
We have about a minute or so before the break here.
So let's set the table and then we'll come back and get right into it.
Things we can control and we can't control because if we look, I mean, I think it's great to go out and join a protest, a peaceful one, obviously.
I think that's great.
But I think oftentimes we tell people, hey, go do this because it's going to make it better.
And then they go do it.
and things are the same or worse and they feel completely over-wet and hopeless.
And these are things what you're gonna give us after this break are things we can do for ourselves and our friends and neighbors that we can actually make differences with.
Yes, absolutely, because I think that community is where it starts.
I think humanity is where it starts, and that's how we get back to each other and get back to some sanity.
And it fits well so well with one of the main ethos, the through lines of civic media, our CEO and owner, Sage Weill, when he started this.
He wanted to be about community, a focus on that it started.
It didn't start in Washington, DC.
It starts in our local neighborhoods with local news, local sports and local neighborhoods.
And we're going to talk about community with Kira Saban.
When we come back, positive psychology coach, don't stop believing there is hope on the other side.
News, sports, the weather is next.
It's the all ball show on the Civic Media Ready Network.
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Glad to have you along in the all ball show and civic media.
Talking with Kira Saban, positive psychology coach for Mental Health Awareness Month.
Janet Jackson, Kira, is now being honored with an ICON award at the American Music Festival.
How about that?
I think that's fantastic.
Well overdue, I would
say.
Agree.
Agree.
Kira.
Before we, this is one of these things that's funny, but it's not, I guess.
I just saw this during the break.
According to the European Space Agency, and Dutch scientists, you guys trust the Dutch, headline, the universe is poised to die much faster than previously thought, according to new research by Dutch scientists.
Charlie Sykes, a long time conservative talk host, now turned kind of an independent, like me says,
Why does this feel like good news?
I
don't know if it feels really like good news, Todd, but maybe that's just where you're
at.
But but against the point we're talking about before the break and we're going to get into it right now is that with all the news that's piling on, regardless of who people voted for, that it just seems like the world is out of control.
You don't know what's going to happen next.
And we get you've talked about this before.
We are lonely people, not just females, but actually probably more so males are their own little worlds and silos, information silos.
And this is not good for mental health.
So we're going to talk about things that we could control and can't control.
This is the first of the three part series with Cura.
So Cura, let's start things that we cannot control, but we sure try to.
We sure try to.
I mean, the thing is, is that every day we are walking through our days and we're trying to control our environments, right?
And we may not think that we're trying to, but we are.
And a lot of the times the energy that we spend trying to control our environments is wasted because we're trying to control things we can't.
So first thing we can't control, guess what?
Other people.
We cannot control no matter if there are kids, our parents, our partners, our friends, we can't control how they act, how they react.
You might give them great news and they may be stunned or not happy for you.
We can't control the way other people react to us.
And trying to just drives us crazy or leads to some level of people pleasing and manipulation, which we're not trying to do on a daily basis.
We also can't control timelines.
We can't control how fast things happen.
I know that when we are sometimes grieving, we want to get over it right away.
We want to push through it and just put our heads down.
But if you've ever grieved or tried to heal from something extreme, it takes its own timeline.
We can't control it.
And all we can do is maybe try to numb it, but that once again isn't very helpful.
We also, oh, go ahead.
No, no,
no, that's
fine, that's
good.
We also can't control, this is going to be a newsflash, everybody, the state of the world right now, right?
We cannot unfortunately control everything that's happening in our country, whether it's on tariffs, whether it's on...
anything for that matter.
We have some control, but a lot of it, we don't.
And I don't know about you, Todd, but I grew up being called a worry wart, which I've now learned is anxiety.
Funny
how that's happening that my dad's like, oh, you're just a worry wart.
Oh, or I am having anxiety.
But really, if we spend the amount of time that it's kind of being shoved in our faces, the news, the media, the kind
constant, like, what bad is going to happen now, which we have to remember, sells newspaper, sells ads, sells all of the different things, you know, then we would never want to get out of bed.
I have, you know, I'm going to talk about what we can control, but I have to really be focused on where I put my time and energy, or I don't want to get out of bed in the morning.
Right.
And I think this is, again, it goes back to, and I'm not, look, I'm not.
Me personally, I'm not discouraging people from participating in democracy.
Certainly go out, peaceful protest, all that.
We have ballot boxes, although it's going to be a while before an election.
But to Kira's point, to your point, Kira, I think that too often there's too much emphasis by those of us in the media on what you just said, and then we feel overwhelmed.
And I think it's healthier.
Mental health is better for our mental health if we put more focus on what things we can control.
But before we get to that,
Tell us the psychology behind, why do we want to control things that we can't?
Why do we have this thing that our brain makes us want to control things we just have no power over?
So first of all, we're not going to go into PTSD and trauma right now.
But our brains love consistency.
Right?
As humans, our brains crave predictability, and when our brains interpret, they interpret that as safety, right?
So whether it is or not, they like to think that they know what's coming up to feel safe and to feel calm.
But it's an illusion because we really know there's so many things that, you know...
that we can't control.
We could get in a car accident on the way home.
There's so many things that are out of our control.
But our brains feel safe when we think that we can.
But what ultimately we want to do as humans is learn what we can control and then have the skills and mindsets to be able to calm ourselves and cope.
when things don't feel good, instead of trying to constantly control our environment, the people around us, our relationships, our friendships, so that we feel safe.
And that's kind of what we're gonna talk about next week, is how do we actually cope in a healthy way?
Because it can't be just beer and cheese.
Just throwing
that
out there.
Not to ruin anybody's day.
Maybe occasionally for some of us.
Occasionally, it just can't be the only way.
Not always, certainly.
So I think that's interesting, talking to Kieris Taben, by the way.
who is a positive psychology coach and you can find all of her work and get in touch with her at thrivewithkira.com.
And she's somebody who certainly helped me in my life and I know helped a lot of other people as well.
Kira, this idea that there's a psychology behind this that we always wanted to control things, but is it too simplistic to say we need to just learn to let go of some things?
And I don't wanna say not care.
But how do you get to that point where you're able to break that psychology of wanting to control things all the time?
First of all, understanding what actually makes sense for us to control.
And I don't think that on a daily basis we think about that or talk about it, right?
We're just trying to think about things so much, right?
We think that if we worry and if we think about all of the worst case scenarios that somehow we're protecting ourselves, but they've actually proven that that's not true either.
All you're doing is putting time and energy and brain power towards things that may never happen and usually negativity.
Right?
So whether we want to believe in whatever the science proves that where we put our time and our energy and our focus is creates results.
And that can be negative results or that can be positive results.
I'm just I'm chuckling because, you know, I'm pretty open to these segments and there have been times in my life where there's a bill I had to pay or is behind and I just like, I don't want to call that person.
I'm putting it off because it's going to be terrible and it's going to be bad.
And then you finally do it.
And it's like, oh, that was all it was.
And in the meantime, I've created days of not weeks of anxiety over basically
nothing.
Right.
And if we do that all the time and then are also trying to control things like the government or our country or our, you know, our family members or our coworkers, man, that's exhausting.
And we weren't, we're tired.
Right.
We're
just really, really tired.
Agree or disagree.
I don't think either one of us, you can speak for yourself, but.
I'm not saying that there aren't things that aren't important to pay attention to, that could have consequences, but to take that on every day and somehow think that we individually are going to change that, our bodies just, they're not wired for that.
They are not wired for that.
And I mean, they're still coming out with the data on, you know, how technology affects our brains, how like social media and the now the comparison, you know, and just
I mean, you and I've talked about this a thousand times, but I think everybody out there needs a hug more than anything else, right?
We're so isolated.
And what do you do when you're isolated?
You go online and you find people who believe the same things that you believe or can tell you how to make sense with your loneliness and your sadness.
And a lot of those people are not good people and are taking advantage of people.
I couldn't agree more.
We talked about this yesterday.
I don't want to belabor it, but just to follow up on that, and Zomers was so good he made a promo about this yesterday, or something I said yesterday, was at home, was at mom's house, saw David Union as well, Brady and Brandon's dad, and we just started talking unexpectedly, and he tells me this beautiful story of how he and his wife Andrea met in high school, and how they're still in love, and just, it was so uplifting, but the point was,
I would have never gotten that just chilling out, looking, scrolling, doom scrolling.
I was outside doing something and had a real conversation with another human.
We all need to do that more, Kira, don't we?
100% because the thing is, is that when we don't see other people struggling, we think it's only us.
And then that's where the isolation comes.
That's where we stop talking to people.
You know, I love the idea of self-help, but there's also something called community help.
Right?
In so many times, it's not just us needing to read another book or listen to another podcast, even though I have a podcast and you have a radio show.
It's also just remembering.
talking to people because we have become so divided.
We've forgotten that our neighbor is really nice and has, it makes great cookies, right?
And, you know, and probably has the same concerns on a daily basis that you do.
And that's the hardest thing is like, I think that we think things have changed and I think we're just have stopped talking to each other.
That is so good.
That is so good.
And it's so true.
About four or five minutes, not quite that.
Well, three minutes left.
Thank you, Zomers.
Let's get into a little bit of these, a personal needs convo, Kara, for the next three minutes before the break.
I love to share with people that there are four personal needs that only we can take care of ourselves, right?
And we try to pass them off a lot of times, or people try to pass them off on us.
Number one, our physical well-being and health.
That is completely up to us.
We can make green smoothie for our spouses.
We can suggest a doctor.
We can walk besides them, but we cannot make people change their life.
They have to do it.
Their emotional well-being and happiness.
And that's right.
It is nobody else's job to make you happy.
If you're not happy, you have to figure out what that is to make you happier.
I think we turn to our partners and our family or even our jobs to make us happy and they can't do it.
It's completely up to us.
and happiness is a skill, and it's something you can learn and grow, like that's what positive psychology is.
We also can't control anybody else's passion or purpose.
We can cheerlead them, we can send them job links, we can remind them how talented they are, but we can't let that fire for them, we can't make someone want a bigger life.
Right?
That's up to them.
And then the final one, which is hard to hear because we are all given a worth or worth away on a daily basis is our self worth and how we feel about ourselves.
That's a hundred percent on us.
We can tell somebody else are amazing.
We can see their potential.
We can love the crap out of them, but we can't force somebody to believe it.
And these are things.
This is why we heal.
This is why we have therapy.
This is how we have coaches or whatever it is.
to be able to take care of those things ourselves so we can show up as whole people in our friendships, our relationships, and that is how we've changed the world.
Think about that list, Kira.
How people are physically, how well they are emotionally.
their passion and purpose and their self-worth.
How much time do we spend trying to change or help, quote unquote, other people on those four things?
Well, I just feel like if I did this or said this, you know, maybe they'll just light a fire.
I mean, I've been unemployed, I've been looking for a job, and people are, I know they're trying to be helpful, but sometimes that just puts you in a more depressed state.
And a lot of times, because we secretly know inside that this is our own work, people get resentful.
Yes.
Right?
So if you try to do it for them, they get resentful and then push you away.
So it's not working either way.
A, you can't do it for them.
And then B, if you try, that's us trying to fix them.
And usually that's a self-worth thing.
Wow.
Really good stuff.
Physical, emotional.
well-being, passion, purpose, self-worth.
These are things we all have to work on for ourselves.
We can't rely on others to do it for us.
We'll come back and talk about things we can control with Kira Saban.
She's a positive psychology coach.
You're listening to the All Balls show on Civic Media.
Thanks for sticking with us on the best of the Todd Allbaugh Show.
Here's the rest of Todd's conversation.
Enjoy.
Along with Kira Saban of Todd Allbaugh, Kira is a positive psychology coach.
You can find all of her work at thrivewithkira.com.
We're always still thankful and happy to have her here.
Today is the first of a three part series.
Join us each Tuesday for the following two weeks as Carol will be back during this Mental Health Awareness Month talking about.
Things we can control and can't control in this crazy crazy world when sometimes the news the day we feel overwhelmed We've talked about things.
We can't control the psychology behind it.
I love these personal needs Convos and maybe we could kind of go through this again in a future episode just to refresh in case you weren't with this before the break Kira said
a person's physical well-being, their emotional well-being, their passion and purpose, and also their self-worth.
Those are things that no matter how much we love or care about someone, we cannot change that for them.
It's up to each of us individually to work on those things for ourselves, right Kira?
Absolutely, and we will just go like, not so in the but so try it.
This is one of my favorite scenes because it's also our own self work.
Right,
exactly.
That's what we're doing.
We're healing and we're making ourselves better.
So let's empower people a little bit here because there are some things that we actually can control.
Of course.
And David Newberlin actually said, texted it on the Civic Media Text app and said, I'm perfectly content with the idea that I can't control what others do.
Here's what I can control.
And it's really powerful.
I get to control how I respond to others.
Kira Saban?
Exactly.
Exactly, it's the first thing right here.
I told Dave, like, go to the head of the class, 100 points, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Not how not only how we react, but how we respond to people, right?
And I will tell you a lot of times we think that our emotions are uncontrollable That is not true at all emotions actually last 90 seconds and any emotions Yep, it lasts longer than that is actually either secondary emotions kind of the feelings we have about those emotions and we start to ruminate so I tend to I know
Is it that fascinating?
That
kind of blows my mind, but go ahead.
Yeah, so when we realize that our emotions are actually just signals to our body or our brain to say, hey, there's something going on, right?
Like there's something that's either not okay or is or really happy.
Once we realize that, we can step back and we can respond to people.
And responding means we don't lose it, we're not mad, we're not sarcastic, we're not just in passing.
we're actually responding in a way that we can be heard because what's the point of talking if we can't be heard?
100% agree.
So by not reacting, by not, you know, nobody wants to talk to somebody who then shares 17 things wrong about you, right?
By just being able to respond and say, you know, can I be heard?
This is important to me.
That's how we change and better our relations.
Let's
get to the next one until we don't run out of time.
You got it where we put our time energy and money where we put our
time energy and money
Yes, where we where we shop where we Where we did like donate our our time where we Like organizations that we volunteer for Whatever we are doing you want to do what you want to see move forward, right?
And what happens is we sit home a lot and worry
that is helping no one.
You thinking about the world not going well, isn't bettering it in any way.
Take that frustration and use it as fuel.
And you've talked about this before, but I'm just not gonna do it right now, but who we spend our time with and what those people have in effect, that's a huge one that I've tried to listen to you more on.
And somebody told me years ago, I'm sure you guys have heard it, that look at the five people that you spend the most time with, they represent you.
And when I heard that at the time, I was like, oh no, that's not
good.
That's not good at all because they tended to be negative people, always brought me down, constantly complaining, and I would just get the same way.
Yeah.
Next one, how we give back to what we believe in.
That's right.
I know so many of us are concerned about
our LGBTQ communities were concerned about just a lot of people possibly not getting the funding or the support that they used to have.
But guess what?
We're the support.
We can be the support.
If you don't have the time or the energy, there are organizations that always need money.
There's organizations that need help.
Don't worry about, like,
I mean, I want to see people give back to their communities and their time in that way.
That's how we make sure that they can't take that away from us.
What we consume on a daily basis, content, social media news.
Absolutely.
I hate to tell you this, Todd, but people who watch the daily news are 20% less happy.
So that's actually scientific.
Very
unhappy.
Isn't that a line from the producers?
you know, but really be aware of what you're consuming and how it makes you feel.
There are ways that we can take in.
Here's what happened today without us completely taking us over for the day or for a half an hour or an hour, right?
There are ways for us to get the information and be thoughtful to it because I can tell you this, you know, we used to get newspapers and then that's all we would that's all we would know for the day or the week or whatever.
Now we are inundated every second of every day.
And let's be honest, there is not 24 hours of.
news every single day.
So they're finding news and that news is mostly stuff that's not happy.
So really be thoughtful to where you give your time.
I obviously love Todd Allball show for my news and information.
And I like ThriveWithKira.com for some
of my information as well.
Thank you.
Thank you.
But if you find yourself just doom scrolling through all of these videos, it's not helpful.
And all it does is really take you down in a way that it's hard to bring you back up.
And the final one we touched on, who we surround ourselves with, we have control over that.
I always enjoy being surrounded by more Kira Saban.
We'll see you next week, Kira.
Really, really appreciate you.
You can find her and all our info at
ThriveWithKira.com.
That's all for this week's Best of the Todd Alba show.
As always, if you want to hear the rest of the week's shows, you can go to civicmedia.us slash shows or anywhere else you get your podcasts.
And as Todd always says, whatever you believe in, whatever you're fighting for, do not give up.
Keep banging your drum.
We'll see you on Monday.
Overcast skies, little sun poking through here at the world headquarters of Civic Media in downtown Madison, right here on State Street.
Rough weather last night summers.
Wow.
We talked about it was kind of breaking out during our show yesterday And I know parts of Wisconsin really got hit hard and I wanted to start off the show just by offering our thoughts our prayers and and and Good vibes being sent out to the communities across Wisconsin who really have gotten some some strong damage of some tornadoes hit touchdown and parts of the state yesterday a couple of stories wanted to hit on hit on here
First of all, from Channel 3, the CBS affiliate here in Madison, great anchor reporter Brady Mallory is in Mayville, Wisconsin today and showing on his Twitter feed some of the storm damage up in Mayville.
But then he's also reporting on this really great inspiring story.
And we've talked about on this program before that the late great
Fred Rogers, i.e.
Mr. Rogers of Mr. Rogers Neighborhood, was fond of telling kids, but really all of us who are kids at heart, he would repeat what his mother told him, that in times of trouble or disaster, look for the helpers.
Look for the helpers.
And Brady Mallory, Channel Three has found
Helpers up in mayville, wisconsin today just kind of north of the beaver dam area And he posts on his twitter brady says call it a post storm Post it at open door coffee in mayville people are paying it forward Which is routine here by buying their neighbors coffee and treats and leaving it post it notes customers can come in grab a note
and get a free little pick me up.
And it's really awesome.
People saw this this store called open door coffee in Mayville.
People are going and writing kind of inspirational notes to one another on post it notes, putting it on a wall and then buying a coffee order with that so people can just come in who are going through hard times in Mayville today and
get an inspirational message and get a free coffee courtesy of their neighbors.
So a great reporting by Brady Mallory of Channel 3000 and WISC here in Madison.
Those are the kind of things I love.
Those are the kind of stories that in the midst of destruction that people still step up.
And again, this is a great example.
I bet nobody's going into open door coffee in Mayville and saying, well, I want to only make sure that this goes to a Republican voter or a Democratic voter.
Nobody cares.
They're doing it because it's helping each other out.
And that is the spirit of Wisconsin.
That is part of what makes Wisconsin great that I love to focus on and love to talk about in this program because there are helpers everywhere.
All we have to do is look.
Absolutely.
So a big shout out to Brady Mallory of Channel 3 for bringing that story for their broadcast and just thought I would give them a shout out for doing that.
Also, according to the Marshfield News Herald, it says in the town of Colby, and of course Colby, famous for Colby cheese, which was founded here in Wisconsin in the city of Colby, said within hours of a tornado tearing through the Colby area, residents, neighbors, and others were out in the community yesterday.
volunteering their woodcutters and chainsaws to help clear as much debris as possible before the sunset.
The National Weather Service of La Crosse confirmed a tornado near Colby moving northeast at 45 miles per hour at around 5.21 yesterday afternoon.
Law enforcement confirmed the tornado was on the ground according to the National Weather Service.
The intensity of this storm has not yet been determined.
It says by 7.45 last night, just over two and a half hours later,
later, groups of volunteers, EMS and electric linemen were out cleaning up the numerous downed trees and grounding the live wires from approximately 20.
downed power structures.
Their focus was getting all of the roads open according to USA Today Network Wisconsin videographers on the scene.
According to Excel Energy's Electric Outage Map, nearly 500 customers in Colby, Spencer and the Unity area were without power due to storm damage as of 12 a.m.
this morning.
Several homes in the Colby area suffered damage as well as a Colby Chrysler Center where the local dealerships once pristine vehicles now sit
battered in dens from flying debris and shattered windows, glass in the parking lot.
Colby Chrysler Center Building suffered damages as well.
So thinking about all those folks at Colby, as we said in the Mayville area, I know Juno is also a place that got hit fairly hard and I know there were other communities that I'm not calling out specifically, but to everyone across the state of Wisconsin who was affected by these storms last night, we're thinking of you.
If there's something we can pass along in terms of fundraisers for you, if there's anything that we could do to be supportive, please let us know because we want to do that.
But again, it doesn't matter whether you're in Mayville, paying it forward, buying coffee for your neighbors or folks here in Colby who were already out last night helping to clean up before the sun even set.
And again, who was it?
Groups of volunteers, EMS and electric linemen.
And how many times do we go to parades in the summer or we see a brought stand and it's a fundraiser for our local EMS or volunteers?
And we think, well, I don't know, I don't have time.
Take the time and even if you don't want to brought, give them five bucks, give them 10 bucks, give them 100 if you can afford it.
Because these are the people, our volunteers, our EMS, our first responders, the electric linemen.
All these folks who we don't think of often enough throughout the year, but by golly, when we need them, we need them.
And we're all so thankful that we come out and support one another.
That's the Wisconsin spirit, folks, right there.
So, uh, wanted to start off the, uh, the show with a big shout out to our local communities and all those first responders and people who are cleaning up around the state of Wisconsin after, after those storms, uh, believe it might be a couple of much more minor storms, kind of your garden variety, rain and thunderstorms later on this afternoon in parts of Wisconsin that a cool down in Zommer's kind of a cool in the sixties across the state of Wisconsin this weekend.
but all in all, not too bad.
Can't complain at all.
Big show look today.
Coming up at the bottom of the hour, we have Bryn and Mike Schieffer here of the Faith Lutheran Child Care of Cameron, Wisconsin up in beautiful Barron County, not too far from our station up there in Amory.
And they're going to be here.
They are in town lobbying for the child care programs in Wisconsin.
And of course, we had folks on earlier in the week talking about
The Republicans on the joint finance committee who are cutting the funding for childcare in the state of Wisconsin They are down here lobbying on that.
We're gonna talk a little bit about their business and again what these cuts really mean to people
in the childcare industry and people who use the childcare industry.
Those are the things I want to get to is what, what does this really mean to the average Wisconsinite who is in need of or is currently using these services?
So we will talk to them.
Also, and what's worse for today, Todd tends to lose things.
My band director, Lauren Jensen, used to tell me back in high school, she'd say, Todd, you lose your left nut if it wasn't attached.
And she was absolutely right.
So, the category today, lost phone or lost keys.
What's worse, we'll ask you that in hour two and take your phone calls and much more fun along the way.
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Coming up as we said the bottom of the hour here just after the news and farm report with Pam Young brought a Brynn and Mike Schieffer from Faith Lutheran Care in Cameron, Wisconsin will be here in studio.
They're in town lobbying the legislature on childcare.
Going to catch up with them a little bit and talk about that.
And then after that, going to get into what I
find a beyond disturbing story that the Department of Homeland Security good old Kristi Noem dog shooter that she is is considering a reality show where immigrants compete for citizenship.
You cannot make this up.
We'll discuss that a little bit later Trump firing the FEMA director Trump firing the director of the u.s.
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This weekend going on today says even with Donald Trump's president, Donald Trump's win in November, Brian Shimming could soon face moves, a move to remove him.
Quote, somebody else needs to have the opportunity that can fundraise and unite the party.
Unquote.
One former Wisconsin GOP leader said and also said, we really need that ahead of 2026.
If we're going to have a chance to take out Tony Evers or.
The other person of this not evers goes on there.
So what's going on?
In Ross child today the chairperson chairman Brian shimming is being challenged by I know this may sound weird to some people But even in today's iteration of the Wisconsin Republican Party, there is an I would call it the uber maga part of it
And then there's kind of the more mainstream Republicans or more, if you could call it mainstream, Maga.
But there is the Uber Magas.
They're basically like, if we should do every single thing that Trump tells us to do, period, period, right when he tells us to do it, right when he tells us to do it.
And then there are other people like, like shimmy and others who are like, Hey, you know, basically, uh, yes, Trump's our leader and we love him, but.
We have to kind of adapt things here for for Wisconsin as well.
So he's by the Uber Maga part of the party.
The challenges are coming from Milwaukee County, Brown County, which is Green Bay.
And I think there's a Claire County or the Cross County as well.
So big voting blocks within the Republican Party.
So we'll see how that goes on Monday.
We're going to be joined by somebody from Wisconsin.
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of Wisconsin convention this weekend.
So we'll we'll check in.
We'll see if we'll see if as I like to call him the shim sham man.
Tony, watching on YouTube says someone dares challenge the shim sham man.
Yes, Tony.
Yes.
As a matter of fact, they are they're going to try.
So we shall see.
We'll let you know on Wednesday whether a Brian Arthur shimming survives that.
Here is a bit of bipartisan news quickly for you.
We talk about things that don't work.
How about this?
The state Senate votes to make sharing deep fake nude images.
a felony in wisconsin how about that uh deep fake of course is when you use computer ai to basically photoshop not just an image but a video
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You create it via AI.
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That's a deep fake.
So the bill's author says legislation is needed to protect residents as AI capabilities advance.
Current law does not cover images of real people generated by artificial intelligence.
But Senator Andre Jacques.
And his floor speech cited a DHS study that found that 90% plus of deep fake videos posted online are non-consensual pornography.
The bill passed on a 33-nothing vote.
So there you go, some good things happening.
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hour and a half or so is season text the word season s e a s o n make sure it is singular season one season it is the season of lobbying and budget writing here in madison as we're coming to you from downtown madison just to block from the state capital lots of people in town lobbying for different causes as the joint committee on finance pushed together the state budget
And we're talking about all week here, childcare, one of the things that affects all of us across the state of Wisconsin.
And here now joined at the desk, and we're very honored to have them in studio today, are Brynn and Mike Schieffer.
They are the founders and owners of Faith Lutheran Child Care in beautiful Cameron, Wisconsin in Barron County, not too far from our station up in Emery.
Brynn and Mike, thanks for coming in, welcome.
Thank you very much for having us.
service?
So we moved to Cameron 2007 and joined Faith Lutheran Church about 2009.
And in 2010, we were like, hey, this is a great space for a childcare center, which I had been doing in home, off and on, and worked at other centers previously, went to the church council, and they loved the idea.
So September of 2011, we opened up a small center.
And it grew from there.
In 2016, we were able to purchase a second center, and that allowed us to care for infants and toddlers on top of preschool and school age kids.
And when COVID hit, that it had a big impact on our church center, and we ended up closing that down permanently in August of 21.
So many dates to remember.
And so we've been keeping the second center that we purchased.
We've been keeping that going since then.
But it's slowly getting smaller and smaller, harder and harder to find qualified individuals to work.
And the funding that we do have, which is federal funding, is set to run out in July.
We have been in town this week.
basically demanding funding for childcare for the state of Wisconsin because once that goes away the estimates are upwards of 25% of centers licensed or certified centers in Wisconsin will close down and the rest will have to raise rates drastically and working families just can't afford it.
So I currently have 24 children, roughly 20 families.
Wow.
And then there's five employees.
So we're pretty small.
I mean, we've been as big as between the two centers, almost 70 children and 16 employees.
And now, yep, it's shrinking down.
I have a great base right now.
I don't want to see, you know, I don't want to lose that.
But Mike, don't you think this story is not unique that there are how many, I can't even imagine probably hundreds of childcare facilities like yours that might take care of 24, 30 children.
And you replicate that times hundreds across the entire state.
It affects a lot more people than people might think.
I would agree with that, yeah.
And I'm here more as a representative of support staff.
As far as the husbands and families that are there supporting our wives that are passionate about this and stuff like that.
So we feel it.
long care, still removal maintenance, things of that nature.
That's my role.
That's pretty much yet.
I have my own separate
stuff otherwise.
But
Myself and then we do have like an account an accountant
things like that and we are a board-run nonprofit So any other nonprofits out there that are you know shying away from standing up for childcare?
Please stop get
and advocate for us.
We need you to I
like to go back to what you said earlier We're talking with Brendan Mike Schieffer from Faith Lutheran childcare in Cameron, Wisconsin here in our studios
Go back to what you said about you rely on federal funds, but explain to people, these aren't necessarily funds that come directly from the federal government, they come through the state, correct, correctly?
Yes, so it is federal money that's ARPA money from coronavirus
a response to that.
And so this is called childcare counts funding.
We apply every month, so we get a certain amount per child, per staff that we have.
Some of the money goes towards staff bonuses.
and the rest goes towards daily operating expenses.
And like I said, that money is set to run out.
Currently, the state of Wisconsin is only one of six states that provides no, there's no state dollars.
It's only the federal dollars.
Yes.
And, you know, the fact that they don't provide any money and this money is running out.
how detrimental it will be to the workforce,
every family that counts on us.
Like you just said, we're one tiny center, but you replicate that across the state.
And you're talking about a workforce without care is an economy that grinds to a halt.
And that was what we were trying to show this week.
I could appreciate the best I can with you saying, well, we're just one, in your words, a tiny center.
But I know people who run centers as big or smaller than yours.
And I would kind of argue that, but to those families, you're everything.
You might consider yourself a small business, but to those families, you're everything.
Because to try to find alternative care, talk a little bit about the situation in Barron County.
Is there a waitlist for childcare there?
Like in most places?
Yes,
there's always a waitlist every center that is around and there is another Center in Rice Lake that will be closing very soon Decided that they they couldn't stick around for it anymore in which I completely understand I'm hoping that will come out on the other side and will come out successful
No, and he has been invited to our center.
We'll get to that in a second, but I wanted to just go back because I think this is so fascinating for those of us who might not have kids or not in this industry when you say that many of the federal dollars now are coming from monies who are approved during COVID.
So the question I have is what did you rely on or what did you use?
prior, were you still getting federal funding prior to COVID or what was the situation then?
No, the only other funding that comes through is Wisconsin shares, which is a subsidy for low income families, but that just offsets their cost.
So there's no other funding.
It was all based on parent rates.
And when our other center closed down, that's when we started going into the red most months.
And so that was it, losing that enrollment is what?
is slowly eating away at us.
Yes, it was.
And I wouldn't say it was good then.
We've always been having this fight, Worthy Wage Day, that just happened here.
And for childcare, we still don't have worthy wages.
Right.
clawing for $13 an hour out of our ask of $480 million.
And currently, you know, child care workers, we're in the bottom 2% of earners.
And we have one of the most important jobs.
We're raising up the future, the future of the state, the future of our country.
And we invest in the state of Wisconsin is investing, investing nothing in them.
There were no federal dollars or very little prior to COVID.
The industry was already a problem.
I don't want to call life support, but you were facing challenges.
Yes.
COVID came along.
If you want to call it a silver lining, although I hesitate with the devastation of COVID, if there was any silver lining, I guess, is that these funds were made available, which kind of put up maybe a temporary bandaid on the problem.
They did.
And now that those funds are not being continued by the federal government and the Trump administration,
And the state legislature isn't putting money.
Now we're right back to the crisis mode pre-COVID.
Is that right?
Yes.
Well, we're definitely in crisis mode now.
I mean, with the rising cost of everything, we're in crisis mode.
And no longer can we, myself, my husband subsidize doing this, paying for things out of our own pockets, things like that.
It's time for the state to step up and recognize us.
That was a big thing too when the federal funding did start coming in.
We felt like for the first time, we were seen.
We were, you know, that people saw us and valued what we were doing.
You know, asked us, told us, please stay open.
Please stay open.
Please take care of our first responders and our medical professionals and everybody that had to go to work.
And we did it.
We did it.
day in and day out.
And it was that that was fatigued.
Let me tell you to not know day to day what was going to happen and no help.
I mean, and those first responders, those EMS people, well, we need them.
We want them there.
Well, if they have child children, those kids have to have some place to go.
And I think people don't associate that ripple effect often enough.
that if the kids don't have, we have a business person on earlier this week that they literally didn't hire someone because the person they wanted to hire didn't have childcare.
And so it ripples down in the economy that way as well.
Yes.
Oh, trying to, if you're trying to entice an employee to come from other parts of the country or into your community to support your businesses, they need to have a place to raise their family.
Yes, we need to be family friendly.
Right.
So I understand you guys are part of Wisconsin early childhood action needed and we're down here to lobby the state legislature to try to get this.
So my understanding is you try to get to see your Senator, Senator Quinn and Representative Armstrong.
I know the assembly has been in session this week, but I've heard the doors have not necessarily been thrown open for you.
Correct.
And we have some more stops to make before we head back home today.
Some members of we can have.
Maybe there's concepts of a plan
three 40 or whatever
it's a little bit of a hike to get down here you stayed overnight Yes, and and all you're trying to do is meet with the your elected official
to talk about an issue facing their own district, and the fact that they can't make time for you to me is just, as someone who used to be a legislative staffer in that building, is appalling.
Well, and if you request information through listening sessions, 80% of constituents want child care funded.
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Right now we are here in studio at World Headquarters in downtown Madison of Civic Media.
And in studio we have Brynn and Mike Schieffer.
They are the owners of Faith Lutheran Child Care in Cameron, Wisconsin.
I guess technically owned by the church, but you guys founded it and run it every day.
But I think it's a creative concept because of 501c3, right?
It's what you do it through there, but but you're the ones that really do the day-to-day operations
Yes, well it was a ministry of the church You know they when I when I came to them because the there was a need in our community You know we had a congregation of how many hundred hundred and some people that were like yes, let's do this let's focus on this and
So again, we need to see that collectively, people coming together and supporting the children in
And as someone who grew up in a faith community, I'm not sure there's a better actual tangible example of true Christianity than taking care of children and taking care of each other.
I mean, some people might not connect that to a faith or religion, but
To me, as a very, very imperfect Christian myself, that seems to be a fundamental tenet of Christ is to take care of people.
Yes.
Absolutely.
So the irony is not lost on me.
Some of the people block up the street under the capital dome of my former party that I left in 2011, who like to parade around a lot.
You know, it reminds me a little bit, not to get too biblical, a little Pharisees that, you know, like to talk a lot about about.
God and religion, but they don't seem to want to practice it when it comes to putting their mouth or money or their vote where their mouth is.
And to me, if you truly are a person of faith, you would want to make sure that we take part of the four billion dollar surplus in the state and fund basic childcare.
And is that too much?
Yeah.
Apparently it
of fact, the ash should be even bigger than the 480 million that we're seeking.
Quality child care is extremely important.
There's varying numbers about the return on investment for every dollar spent on child care, what our returns are.
And I've heard numbers between seven and $13 per dollar that we're spending.
That's phenomenal.
What's the return on investment when we send people to prison?
Can we stop investing in that and start investing in our children in our future?
So in our
Up by me and I know that we're a little on the higher side It's 250 a week for an infant and then school age for full-time is around $200 and I know down here it might be a little closer to $300
an infant.
Yeah, that's you know, you that's one child right you start talking about two or three.
Hey, you know a Making childcare affordable for everybody not
not just certain people.
And I know a big thing on the Republican platform is to not raise taxes, to not take money out of the working man's pocket.
You don't invest in childcare.
We don't have childcare.
It's coming out of your pocket one way or another.
Somebody could lose their entire income because grandparents aren't around to babysit aunts and uncles aren't around to babysit.
You know, most people don't have that luxury.
Quite a few families in my center
You know, they've said they don't know what they would do if we close because they're not around extended family.
And, you know, unless we start, you know, they want to send their kids to the bargain basement on licensed daycare.
Good luck.
Now you have accidents happening and other bad things.
the uh your uh your state senator quinn representative armstrong might not want to meet with you i do know for a fact there are some republicans that listen to this show i'll give you each about a minute where it goes against the clock here what would you like to say to to republican senators representatives on this issue
invest in child care now uh you need us the state needs us the children need us first and foremost but the parents um and the employers everybody needs us our economy
runs on childcare.
Mike.
I would agree and you know people might not be showing it with the way they vote currently but when things start to hurt maybe their eyes will get opened up and you may not want that.
And I think Barron County is one of the lowest rates in the state.
So it wouldn't surprise me, obviously, when you get into these areas that those costs
I think that people that don't have children have no idea of the cost.
Correct.
And then people, again, because you don't walk in someone else's shoes, we have the audacity to judge.
and say, well, why isn't that person working?
Why are, you know, what's the big deal?
And they don't understand that it takes so much of the income just to take care of the child.
And to your point, Bryn, that the family networks, the grandparents and things, and just people that had smaller families and those opportunities aren't there.
So it would seem to me that...
You're literally doing God's work in my opinion.
So thank you both for what you do.
Thanks for making the trip down here.
Thanks for coming on our show.
And I want to continue to follow this.
If we could be helpful to get the word out, to clarify things we're here for you.
Thank you.
Thank you for having us on and helping us get the message out.
Because yes, you just said it, the people that maybe it's not, they're not faced with it every day.
They don't understand it.
Hopefully this gives them a little more understanding.
Talk to somebody.
Talk to somebody you know that has children.
Ask them what their struggles are and how you can help.
Brynn and Mike Schieffer from Faith Lutheran Child Care in Cameron, Wisconsin.
Thanks for being a part of What Makes Wisconsin Great Safe Travels back up there.
It's a beautiful part of the state.
All right.
Thank you so very much.
Thank you.
Come on back, everybody.
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It's the title ball show for a Friday, TGIF May 16th, 2025.
It is a great day to be Wisconsinite.
Overcast skies right now in downtown Madison, the world headquarters, along with Aaron Zomers, our producer and engineer.
Welcome into hour number two of the big program.
How about Bryn and Mike Schieffer Zomers?
Like you said.
literally doing the Lord's work.
Doing probably the most important job there is taking care of kids.
And just we hear the same or very similar heartbreaking stories so many times across our state and the country, but especially here.
It's
I don't care whether you have kids or not.
Even if you're somebody like me that doesn't have kids, childcare is going to affect us one way or the other.
Whether it's in terms of hiring someone, not hiring someone, having places that are under or no staff at all, childcare is a necessity.
And if you weren't with us in the first hour, you guys go back and listen to us at civicmedia.us.
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It was really a great conversation with the Bryn and Mike Schieffer of Cameron, Wisconsin, childcare providers up there at first Lutheran childcare in beautiful Barron County.
I wonder before we move on, because I thought this was really, really important.
We were talking about the costs up there and after we got off the air, they said, Bryn and Mike said, one of the Republicans
a tax on us basically knocks on us is that we're not charging enough that way it's an unsustainable model because we're not charging enough compared to as I said before a friend that has pays a lot more in the Milwaukee area but Corrine Hendrickson who was on the show earlier this week she
on Facebook is watching and says it's important to note that rural counties cannot charge as much as we don't have the family income to sustain it.
But we still have the costs.
It varies widely.
Supporting families together.org has a state map.
So supporting families together.org.
So be aware of that.
Oh, people calling in.
on my cell phone, though, instead of the, uh, instead of the, uh, over the airplane, I should turn that down.
If you want to call in, talk a little bit more about this, uh, 855-752-4842.
855-752-4842.
But Korean brings up a great point.
Coming from rural County myself in Southwest Wisconsin and knowing people there that do childcare, if they charge the same prices that say someone in Milwaukee County is charging, they wouldn't have any clients.
or they end or they go out of business because folks in that part of the state other parts of the state just can't afford their wages aren't commiserate with the prices of child care in the Milwaukee area for the most part for the most part so there is a bit of regionality to child care depending upon
what incomes are where in different parts of the state.
So really appreciate Korean watching and calling in about that.
855-752-4842.
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What do you want to add?
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Have a great weekend.
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I know some people think it's funny.
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But Kristi, no, remember her hair extensions, former governor of North Dakota likes to make.
She played cosplay cosplay.
It's costume play.
She plays police officer because she goes out on these quote unquote raids and she wears the regalia acting like she's a police officer and most
Many actual police officers and military people are always calling her out online on Twitter saying you don't know how to wear a flak jacket.
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She's a cosplayer.
She's a fake.
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When it comes to when it comes to law enforcement type of stuff, but she does it for and I'm not trying to be.
I guess I am being derogatory.
But I mean, it's like glamour shots.
Glamour shots for cops, basically, when it comes to how she presents herself online.
It's all about the clicks.
And of course she was the former governor of North Dakota that shot her puppy dog because it wouldn't stop barking.
And now she's the head of the Department of Homeland Security.
Well, she has a new, she's working with the member Duck Dynasty.
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Duck Dynasty producers are working with Kristi Noem now apparently and they're considering a reality show where immigrants compete for citizenship.
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Tell you why the Trump actions in DC are going to have an effect on places like Wisconsin Dells and Door County and all those great tourist destinations and Monoraju.
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All right, timely, timely indeed.
I'm gonna be on the road this weekend, Zommer's going up to Shawano.
That's not how you say it.
Shawano, I'm going to Shawano, just west of Green Bay.
Go up to see Dad and Mary, my stepmom.
Hang out with them a little bit.
And inevitably, when I go on the road, I misplace things.
All right.
And so today's category, what's worse, lost phone or lost keys?
What's worse, a lost phone or lost keys?
855-752-4842, 855-752-4842.
What's worse, when you lose your phone?
Or when you lose your keys, eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two.
Also give us a text on the old civic media app.
Excuse me.
I had a burping here.
What's going on?
All I have is water and coffee.
You understand I'm not drinking any other adult beverages on the air.
Maybe next week, because we're we're so here's the deal.
I'll let everybody into the little secret.
Crite lows on vacation, but he's going to be back next week.
So we're going to do this show big.
We're on the road for for Wednesday, Thursday and Friday next week on Wednesday of next week.
We're going to do the show from the town of Dunn.
just outside the city of Oregon here in Dane County.
We're going to be at Kopkes Greenhouse, one of our great sponsors here at Civic Media.
In fact, I was just down there this morning, bought some plans to take up to Sean O and we're going to be down and talking to Gordy.
Gordy Kopke and the Senate Law, Josh, who helps now run the place.
Great place, local greenhouse, talking about their big event for the Badger Honor Flight.
They do this every Memorial Day weekend, where they, you come out, they got live music and they got concessions, and then they have an auction for one of these beautiful planters.
And these things are worth about...
80 to 100 bucks if you go out and buy them, but they're gonna auction out all the proceeds go to Badger honor flights to get our veterans out to Washington DC to be honored So it's a great fundraiser.
We're gonna be down in a copkeys greenhouse on Wednesday of next week Talking about that gonna have a lot of fun and then on Thursday and Friday of next week We're going up to Eau Claire the Chippewa Valley and do the show from up there and if the weather holds there is a chance
We will do the show from Pat Critello's Pound Tune Boat next Friday.
As my friend and former broadcast partner, Kevin O'Connor, is fond of saying great potential, great potential for disaster.
and just he could go either way.
So we'll see.
It could be the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald, but we hope not.
855-752-4842.
855-752-4842.
Let's go to beautiful Brookfield, Wisconsin.
Listen to the NWA UK gym in Brookfield.
Gym lost keys or lost phone.
What's worse?
Well speaking from someone who's lost both probably more than once I would have to say the keys are worse because If you do lose the phone at least you can drive the car to where you think you might have lost it You can also have somebody call that phone, but if you lose those keys you are locked out of your car You're not going anywhere or if you're you know, it's the home key haven't forbid you're not getting into that house So I would have to say lost keys are worse
At the trailhead at Lampam Peak State Park at the ski trailhead, it was in the middle of winter.
I was about to ski a race out there and I noticed, oh my God, I lost my keys because it's in such a hurry to pull my skis out of the car.
Fortunately, some young youth skier, the kids race, said, mister, are these yours?
And pulled them up out of a snow bank and there were my keys.
No, well, I still haven't found those.
But yeah, I've lost my keys.
It drives you crazy, right?
And I reminded of the old George Carlin bit, you know, what he said he said one time, you know.
My mom said, well, you know, I lost the dog.
And she went to say, well, just get up and walk away.
Well, it just got up and walked away.
Come on back.
It's the title of our show for a Friday.
Right in the middle of what's worse, lost voter, lost keys, 855-752-4842.
Give us a call more after this on the Civic Media Ready Network.
Well,
855-752-4842.
855-752-4842 or text us on the Civic Media app.
All right.
So before the break, I once lost my car keys, my truck keys.
I drive a Dodge Ram.
And this has been several years ago now.
And I came and I was, I'd come home and run some errands and gone grocery shopping.
And then I was going to go out later in the evening and I could not find my keys.
And I'm like, where on earth?
And I tore everything up.
I went through like dirty clothes piles, even though I hadn't changed my clothes.
You know, you look every you look in the stupidest places, like I throw them in the trash can.
Did I I went down to my truck.
The truck was locked.
I looked inside.
I'll even know I had to.
I couldn't have left them inside because I needed it to get into my apartment.
So they had to be in the apartment.
Well, they finally to bring the story to the clothes.
I finally found them.
I opened up the freezer and I put the keys because I put like whatever, eggos or ice cream or something in the freezer I bought and I must have had in my hand and just in a rush I put the keys in the freezer.
And that was several years ago and I thought, good, gosh, do I need to go get myself checked?
But you're paying it, right?
Do weird things
I think I am gonna have to go with lost phone being worse if like if it's dead if you don't have an easy way to find it because if you lose your keys you can call somebody else to pick you up or whatever.
True, but at the same time I know that you can also have someone call your lost phone if it's not dead.
I don't know.
It's a tough one because either can help you get the other.
I would, I have panicked if I misplaced my phone.
But if I lose my keys, I can't, especially if I'm out somewhere, I can't get into my truck.
I can't get into my apartment.
You know, I don't know.
I feel more helpful, helpless, I think, when I lose my keys.
A couple more calls here.
855-752-4842.
Here we go.
Ellen and Cedarburg calling back.
Ellen, I'm sure we hung up on you earlier, but thanks for calling back.
Lost phone or lost keys?
What's worse?
Well, they're both awful and they happen to me all the time I would say lost keys because with a phone as my daughter taught me Somebody else can call the phone and if your phone is on Then you'll find it.
Yeah
Oh my gosh, it would have to be parmesan
All right, that's interesting.
I've never, I've never tried that before, but I'll give it a try.
You have great cheese up there.
It's here.
All right.
Thank you, Ellen.
Have a great weekend.
Thank you so very much.
Yeah, I appreciate you.
One more here.
Tony on, uh, watching on YouTube says keys are worse when you lose them.
You can drive to work without your phone.
Great point, Tony.
Absolutely.
All right.
They're
We'll be back on Monday with a brand new edition of that.
I want to mention this quickly here before we get out of here at the end, have a news update and we'll come back with this more serious story on Kristi Noem.
But Manu Raju, great reporter at CNN, was back in Wisconsin at a West Politics luncheon this week and
He's a badger.
I did not know that he graduated from the University of Wisconsin-Madison and he broke a legendary story in 1999 before he ascended to CNN as an anchor and the network's chief congressional correspondent.
Now, I'll kind of summarize this quickly, but back in November 13th, 1999 at the Wisconsin versus Iowa football game at Cape Randall, Ron Dane broke the NCAA's all-time rushing yards record and that was the big story.
But
As it turns out, he did the heisman at the 50 yard line that let him run all the way to the 100 yards down the field and the crowd was going crazy.
And nobody knows who it was because it was pre-iPhone.
They didn't show it on TV.
I'm not talking about Ron Dane, by the way.
I'm talking about a guy who was a streaker who ran out on the field but naked.
But Raju knew and he interviewed Tim Condon.
con done for the Badger Herald identifying the streaker and that was his first big story.
Raju said, and then he became a true campus legend.
People were having house parties for him, raising money to pay off his fines he'd gotten.
He was the news.
Wow.
It was the Camp Randall Streaker.
Back with more serious news after this is the all balls show for a Friday.
You're listening to Civic Media all across the great state of Wisconsin on the Civic Media.
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That work is now 35 minutes past the hour of three o'clock.
Glad to have you along Aaron Zahmer is on the board to get to this story on Christine Ohman a minute, but first some breaking news and also some special weather statements.
I want to pass along to you.
We talked about this at the top of the show that after the thunderstorms and and tornadic activity that rolled through the state yesterday, there was a chance for kind of more pop-up garden variety showers and thunderstorms and a possibility of severe weather this afternoon.
And now that is happening and we want to bring you up to speed on this.
I want to start first of all for our listeners on WISS and Oshkosh and WGBW in Green Bay and Zomer.
this is for your old hometown area, the Manitowoc area.
There is now a severe thunderstorm warning in effect until 4 p.m.
for Manitowoc County.
At 332, a severe thunderstorm is located near Manitowoc, moving northeast at 45 miles per hour.
60 mile per hour wind gusts and quarter-sized hail have been associated with this storm.
So if you're in the Manitowoc area and Two Rivers area,
certainly get to shelter and be inside at this time.
Again, a severe thunderstorm warning for Manitowoc County until 4 p.m.
this afternoon.
Then moving closer for our WMDX listeners in the Madison area There is now a severe thunderstorm warning in effect until 4 15 this afternoon for southeastern Iowa County and Western Dane County and looking at the radar there.
There is a severe thunderstorm right now basically right on 18 151 between Dodgeville and Mount Horrib and that storm like the Manitowoc storm is moving
north northeast right now.
And so towns in the path of this storm, certainly in the Mount Horeb area, Barnabale right now, parts of Verona, Middleton, Wanakee, and the city of Madison will be right kind of on the edge of that storm.
So be aware that that thunderstorm warning lasts until 4.15 this afternoon.
Those are the only official severe thunderstorm warnings right now in effect across the state of Wisconsin.
They have
a special weather and well, they actually just upgraded it from a weather advisory now to another severe thunderstorm warning.
This one in effect until 415 this afternoon for Waukesha County.
So our listeners on WAUK in the Waukesha County area.
This is for you, Waukesha County, also southeastern Jefferson County.
So parts of MDX listening area there.
So again, that one lasts until 415 this afternoon.
Zooming in our radar right now, we can see that the storm is just right around the Palmyra area, and that is moving east northeast right now.
So areas in that path of that storm are Rome, Eagle.
Ottawa, North Prairie, Douseman, Summit, and then Waukesha area, Pewauke area, Heartland, and eventually Brookfield.
So be aware of that.
That's a severe thunderstorm warning in effect until 4.15 this afternoon.
So if you're in the Waukesha area, certainly in the Jefferson County area, also in part of Eastern Iowa County and Western Dane County, including ultimately the city of Madison, and then Manitowoc County,
also all under a severe thunderstorm warning at this time.
Also for listeners on WGBW in just north of there, our good friend Pete Schwabba in the Marinette area just kind of.
west of Marinette.
There is also a severe that they don't qualify as severe but they're calling it a strong thunderstorm right now for Marinette, Menominee, Accanto area and that storm is moving through there strong but not severe at this time.
So hopefully not as destructive as yesterday's storms but wanted to bring you that there is a cluster of stronger to severe weather moving from say Reedsburg, Wisconsin and Southwest Wisconsin down to the Illinois
line and all of that is headed to the east northeast right now.
So be aware of that.
We'll continue to update you as we go through the afternoon.
Also breaking news over the wires at this time.
Many thanks to Zomers for giving me the heads up on this.
The U.S.
Supreme Court this afternoon has blocked President Donald Trump from moving forward with deportations under the 1798 Alien Enemies Act for a group of immigrants in northern Texas, siding with Venezuelan
who feared there were poise for imminent removal under the sweeping wartime authority.
The decision is a significant loss for Trump who wants to use the law to speed up deportations and to avoid the kind of review normally required before removing people from the country.
But the decision is also temporary and underline legal fights over the president's invocation of the continued
invocation has continued simultaneously in multiple federal courts across the country.
No doubt Maggie Dawn will have updates on this being the attorney that she is on her show.
But again, the breaking news at this hour, according to the wires, the US Supreme Court blocking President Trump from moving forward with deportations for now under the 1798 Alien Enemies Act this afternoon.
So lots of news going on.
It always seems to on a Friday, but we'll keep you up to date on the weather and on the news as we move
throughout the afternoon.
Also, don't forget we're running out of time now.
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Speaking of the Brewers, trying to continue the gotta win here last time around.
Last time they were out on the field on Wednesday.
Tonight they take on the Minnesota Twins at Amfam Field.
That game gets underway across many of our stations on the Civic Media Radio Network over the air at 6.35 with a pregame show.
Don't forget you have to listen over Terrestrial Radio as we cannot stream it on the Civic Media app.
42 minutes now past the hour of three o'clock.
Wanted to bring this to you because and I get it some people are gonna say well that's kind of funny I guess I don't I just don't find anything funny about it and I was listening to a friend's show earlier today and She said this and I thought it was really well said I'm paraphrasing if You've never known an undocumented person you're good at this is gonna hit different than if you do
I have lots of people in my life, people in my family are Latinos, Latinos.
I know people who are here who are documented and I've known people in my life who have been undocumented.
And I've walked at least with them.
Obviously, I never walked in those shoes, but I've walked beside them.
And so this story to me is just pathetic.
It's sick.
And I think it is disqualifying.
to have someone like Kristi Noem as the Homeland Security.
This comes to us from the Wall Street Journal.
You can find other places as well.
The Department of Homeland Security is considering reality shows, a reality show where immigrants compete for citizenship.
The Department of Homeland Security is considering being part of a television show in which immigrants would compete for potential U.S.
citizenship.
An idea the producer pitched as far back as the Obama administration.
Department spokesperson Trisha McLaughlin said she had spoken to the producer of the proposed television reality show and that consideration of the idea was ongoing.
It is, quote, in the very beginning stages of that vetting process, unquote, she said.
Adding.
quote, each proposal undergrows a thorough vetting process prior to denial or approval, unquote.
The pitch for the proposed citizenship competition show comes from the mind of Rob Warsaw, a producer and writer whose credits include the Duck Dynasty reality show.
Warsaw, who emigrated from Canada, by the way,
told the Wall Street Journal that the show is meant to be hopeful and a celebration of what it means to be an American citizen.
These are his words, Warsaw quote.
This isn't the hunger games for immigrants, he said.
Immigrants already in the system would compete in various contests, including potentially an American history and science, Warsaw stressed, and that losing contestants would not face deportation.
Quote, this is not, hey, if you lose, we're shipping you out of the boat to another country, unquote.
Warsaw's outreach to the Department of Homeland Security was earlier reported by the Daily Mail.
Now, apparently, I'm going to paraphrase the next part.
I don't want to say the phrase in the business.
It makes me sound like I'm some big insider.
I'm not.
But it's commonplace.
Put it that way.
It's commonplace in this industry.
If you are pitching something, you have something called a deck or a slide deck.
It's basically a fancy way of saying a PowerPoint presentation.
Yeah.
So the Wall Street Journal got ahead, got a hold of a 36 page slide deck where he outlines this reality show.
All right.
And in one challenge,
In this deck, the pitch, in San Francisco, for example, immigrants would compete in a gold rush competition where they're sent into a mine to retrieve the most gold.
In another episode, contestants would be divided into teams and placed on an auto assembly line in Detroit to reassemble the chassis of a Model T. The slide deck envisions the show beginning with the contestants sailing to Ellis Island.
where they're greeted by the show's host, a famous naturalized American.
Says as examples, the producers suggest actors Sophia Vagara, of course she made her name on Desperate Housewives, Ryan Reynolds, other people, the contestants would then travel across the country on train after each episode, one seat on the train would be eliminated.
What do you think of this?
8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 I have some thoughts
I can't think of much more than be demeaning to someone who's I mean, I like to say I know people who are here documented undocumented I know people have gone through the process legally and here's what people don't get unless you've gone through it unless you know people have gone through it I assisted people going through it when I worked at the congressional office and handled immigration issues It can take years.
Everybody says we'll do it the right way It can take years and even when you come here
under one status that's legal you apply for a renewal of that and because both republicans and democrats don't fund the immigration services enough it takes years for this stuff to get approved and while they're waiting they become undocumented and now to say well if you want to go on tv and you know it is the hunger games give me a break
Just like the movie, the Hunger Games, it's putting humans out there and say, I mean, it's like the Roman Coliseum.
Are you not entertained?
And they're using human beings.
And don't give me this crap about, well, you know, if we wouldn't send them back.
People are being arrested right now in courthouses in Wisconsin, who are coming their hat in hand to immigrate here, the quote unquote.
right way, the legal way, and they're being arrested, and they're being deported.
This crap is sick.
Take your phone calls after this.
It's a tunnelball show for a Friday on the Civic Media Radio
Welcome back to the Tahleball show on the Civic Media Radio Network where it is now eight minutes before the hour of four o'clock at the top of the hour.
ABC and CBS News, a little weather update for you.
Mike Clemens on the sports desk.
Brewers, by the way, play tonight at six thirty five against the Minnesota Twins and Fan Field.
We'll have that for you on Richland Center.
Ash gosh, we're seeing Kenosha Park Falls and Hayward over the air only.
So be ready for that.
Then another edition of the Maggie Dawn show from four until six.
Our friend Pete Schwabba from six until eight.
My guess is Maggie will be breaking down.
Big story of the day, the Supreme Court, U.S.
Supreme Court this afternoon blocking President Donald Trump from moving forward with deportations under the 1798 Alien Enemies Act.
For a group of immigrants from Northern Texas, the Supreme Court sided with Venezuelans who feel who feared they were poised for imminent removal under the sweeping wartime authority.
Other big news the afternoon, weather.
Want to update you on that?
A severe thunderstorm warning continues for our listeners on WISS and Oshkosh and WGBW in Green Bay for Manitowoc County.
severe thunderstorm warning in effect until 4 p.m.
this afternoon for Manitowoc County.
That storm now has moved north of Manitowoc proper according to radar now in the two rivers area.
So be aware of that.
That severe thunderstorm warning continues.
The other severe thunderstorm warning that we had for you in the Dane County area has the first one that we had
is now canceled because the storm moved a little north of where it was originally headed.
But there is a new severe thunderstorm warning right now that remains in effect until 4.15 this afternoon, particularly for northwestern Dane County.
So the worst of the storm is not going to head towards Madison proper
No, but if we zoom in right now that severe storm is right over the top of Black Earth and Mazemany and Headed in the prayer to sack direction and then also going to affect kind of the northern side of Middleton and Wannakee by the way, summer is the only Wannakee in the world Did you know that
key is in the path of that storm So if you're in the town of Springfield if you're Wannakee if you're in Westport if you're on the north side of Lake Mendota, you're gonna want to be
the Middleton area a severe thunderstorm warning for you until four fifteen this afternoon.
Sixty mile per hour winds and penny size hail associated with that storm will continue to watch these throughout the afternoon.
Right now, I want to finish up on this story.
We're talking about Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem with the I'll call it a sick idea working with producers of the former show Duck Dynasty to create a reality show where
immigrants to the United States will be put on TV in competitions to win an expedited, basically, golden ticket to U.S.
citizenship.
855-752-4842.
Let's go up to you.
Beautiful Eau Claire on WCFW, the TAP.
Gina Eau Claire, thanks for calling, Gina.
Let's see.
Oh, thank you so much for bringing up this issue.
It is
It's putrid and vile and grossly insane.
These people have no place in the great United States of America.
They need to be walked out and taken right over for mental health.
Thank you for bringing this up.
I was sickened when I saw it.
I thought these people don't take our country serious.
And in fact, they don't care about our country.
And I hope people pay attention to this because this is not.
the people of our country.
Thank you, Todd.
Thank you so much for people who need to pay attention.
These people are not normal and watch them when they're in their meetings.
Pay attention to these people because they don't care about our country and they're taking it down the gutter.
Thank you so much, Todd.
You guys have a great weekend and thank you.
Bye-bye.
You have a great weekend up there, beautiful Eau Claire as well.
Well, I first saw it.
My first reaction was this is a can't be real somebody somebody this quoted this in here And so like I I dug down and found a couple of sources and then they confirmed it and then DHS confirmed it.
It's a no-no Yeah, it it that initial
And I saw all the signs that said mass deportations now and it just It had a real effect on me.
I think that part of the convention more than anything else Because it's just so mean spirited and it's just so in my opinion anti-American I've had the honor and privilege of being
Going to New York City and going to Ellis Island and visiting the Statue of Liberty I've had the distinct honor and pleasure it was it's probably ranks right up there along with helping military folks as The greatest honor I've had when I worked on immigration issues for former congressman Clug that when you would help someone work through the paperwork and oftentimes cut through the red tape of Doing it the right way quote-unquote
that people would invite you then to their swearing-in ceremonies, to their naturalization services.
And I can see almost not quite, as I look out the window here, downtown Madison, the federal courthouse.
And I've gone there and witnessed people being sworn in as US citizens.
A friend of mine who immigrated here from El Salvador, who had a very long and difficult process to get to a legal status and then to get a green card.
and then to be naturalized.
And I went to his naturalization ceremony was at the Staples Center in Los Angeles.
And there were thousands of people there.
And to see them all take the the oath of naturalization and the US flags and what that moment meant is extraordinary.
And the people that want to come here and participate where people like me are the fortunate ones, right?
We were born here.
We're naturally Americans.
The people who are naturalized, they believe in the American dream probably more than those of us who were born here because they had to work for it.
And that should be rewarded.
And it should never be taken electrically and certainly never be made.
fun of.
Thanks for a great show today, everybody.
Thanks to a Bryn and Mike Schieffer from beautiful Baron County.
Thanks to Zomers.
Thanks to Luke Mathers for helping to set up the show today and all of you for listening, whatever you're fighting for, whatever you believe in, do not give up.
Keep banging your drum.
We'll see you Monday.
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