Wisconsin Politics and Legal Drama Unfold

Live from the Civic Media World Headquarters in Madison, Wisconsin, it's the Todd Alba show.

And now, pursuing truth wherever it may lead, here's your host, Todd Alba.

Across Wisconsin on the Civic Media radio network and streaming worldwide on the Civic Media app,

Good afternoon, everybody.

I'm Todd Allball, along with Mr. Sam Davidson on the board, our producer and engineer for the day.

It is the fifth of May, 2025.

It is a great day to be Wisconsinite.

It is Cinco de Mayo, cue the mariachi band.

No, we do not have a mariachi band, but we do have Sam Davison.

Sam, back for the day.

I cannot thank you enough, Zomers.

Apparently he had some bad fish at the Wisconsin Broadcasters Association Dinner, which is odd because there was no fish.

Maybe he brought his own.

And it was still bad.

He actually wasn't there.

But yeah.

No, he's still feeling a little ill at the cold and flu season.

And so he wasn't able to make it in.

But happy that you're here.

And I appreciate you always do a great job.

Of course, Sam is the producer and engineer of John Gordy on WMDX, our flagship station here in Madison at the World Headquarters of Civic Media.

So glad to have you here, Sam.

Thank you.

Glad

to be here.

Now, there's a big night market on State Street on Thursday.

Are you going to be part of that again?

I will be.

John Gordy and I have been jokingly throwing out the idea that we should get cardboard cutouts of ourselves so we don't actually have to show up.

I love it.

Cardboard cutouts are a little expensive though,

so I guess we're gonna have to go.

You're an ace at this because there is a wheel of misfortune that people can stop by and spin and then win fabulous prizes like a keychain.

On the on the at the booth right outside on State Street, and I'll tell you this Sam was an Eagle Scout number one No one's better with the young people and the kids at these things than Sam you do a great job.

So thank you I enjoy watching that so you'll be there.

Oh, yeah, you can count on it.

I will I try to get to the later shift so that

John and or Gordy can go home because they got again, but I need you to early the early the next day.

So,

well, they got to drive.

I live just a couple blocks away.

Oh, I see.

And they're older

than

you.

Yeah, a lot older than me.

Look, I'm saying.

I absolutely love a big show today at the bottom of the hour.

Jack Kelly is going to be here from Wisconsin watch talking about some of the news happening last week.

And over the weekend as well, we're gonna talk this is making news today Donald Trump wants to put new tariffs on films Films and we're gonna do a little look back in Wisconsin on films even before your time Sam Wisconsin was a breeding ground for film production in Wisconsin and people have forgotten that history So we'll dig that up a little bit as well Are you a Bitcoiner and do you know a lot about the Bitcoin Sam?

Can't say that I do know.

Yeah, well, I'm not an expert at all.

But there is interesting news on Trump and the old Bitcoin, the furthest scams going on there.

And much, much more.

We're going to talk about Ron Johnson here from Wisconsin in a second.

But I would be remiss if I speak in the Wisconsin Broadcasters Association, the big gala, big masquerade ball gala was this weekend on Saturday at the Marriott.

It was attended of lots and lots of people there.

And a couple of takeaways.

First, the Sirius, which is a huge shout out and congratulations to our colleague, Maggie Dawn, who won the Large Market Radio Show of the Year Award for the Maggie Dawn Show.

So congratulations to her for that.

She also won, I think, for Best Media or Use of Social Media in Large Market.

So congratulations to her.

Also then, Brittany Burlow.

one of our weather people and news people up in Warsaw, she won like three awards, fantastic, WFHR in Wisconsin Rapids, Melissa Kay and others, one awards.

These are all first place winners and there were other place holders, kind of like the Kentucky Derby.

I can tell you, our show was nominated, but with little surprise, we did not win.

So congratulations to all the winners of fantastic job by all now Let's get to the less serious part of this evening on Saturday The best part of the evening for me was I got to sit next to the lovely and talented Jane Matt Nair of Matt Nair on air and she slipped me a couple of Mickey's throughout the evening and so I was loaded by the end of the night No, not really not really we had a lot of fun and

Number one, it's way too long.

It's four hours long.

Four hours of this.

Number two, and I think Jane talked about this a little bit on her show this morning.

It's a room filled with broadcasters and media people.

We cannot shut up.

And so the poor people up on the stage giving out these awards for four hours, it was a constant people were talking over them.

I felt terrible for the presenter.

There was only one time in four hours.

where the crowd showed restraint and respect.

And that is at the end of the night where they announced the winner of the 50-50 raffle.

Otherwise, otherwise, no, no, no, people.

And there was a lot of this going on saying, there was a lot of, so let's say I'm talking to someone, not Jane, but other people in the room.

There's a lot of this going on.

Do you know who that is over there?

No, I'm not sure.

Oh, God.

I don't want to talk to them.

Oh, hey, how are you?

Great to see you.

How have you been?

Great.

Fantastic.

Have a nice evening.

Bye.

Who was that again?

I'm not sure who that was.

You heard that.

You heard that from people all over the room because you kind of recognize people.

Right.

You see them on

TV

and stuff like that.

Right.

And then you try to act like you know who they are.

There were a couple of people that I knew.

Largely people avoided me.

They're lost.

Not at all.

Which is normal for me.

Which is normal for me.

Tonight was a good time had by all.

But no, it was it was the again the best part of the evening our table was fantastic because I got to I don't get to see Jane that often and so we had a lot of laughs and Greg Bach was there her co-host of Matt Nairnair that was great Aaron Coreno one of our VPs he was there that was our own Catherine Lake who helped put all that together many show many thanks and shout out to her for putting it all together so

I think I saw a picture of Sage Weill himself there as well

Sage Weill

in a rare, our owner and CEO making a rare appearance in full suit and tie.

That's a big deal for him.

So he was, and many thanks to him for all the opportunities.

So that was the weekend by and large.

I did a little kayaking over the weekend.

First kayak trip with my friend's curtain floor seat.

That was a beautiful day yesterday to get out and about.

Yeah, I think that was by and large.

Did you get outside this weekend, Sam?

That's all I wanted to

know.

Oh, boy, did I. I was up in my parents' cabin, but I was told it was going to be a fishing trip with my dad mostly, and they instead used us for manual labor.

My brother and I to put the dock in, put the boat lift in, and build part of a fence.

Really?

Yeah, so that was that was my Saturday Wow, it wasn't bad though.

It was it was nice being outside

Was it beautiful weather up north?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, it was great

And I think most of this week now is gonna be 60s Maybe a couple of 70s along the way and then mom's day mother's day coming up on on Sunday this week

So

for those who have moms don't forget that's coming up on on Sunday looking forward to that as well.

Are you a big?

Cinco de Mayo guy Sam you go out for the for the evening

I didn't know that that was a thing going out on Cinco de Mayo.

Well, some people go out and have margaritas and tacos and whatever.

And the thing is, in Mexico, it's not really that big of a thing.

It's kind of a...

It's a bigger thing here.

Yeah, it's an Americanized holiday.

Yeah.

And people kind of yuck it up and overdo it.

What not

sure are you going out for Cinco tomorrow?

I There's a place seven acres dairy down in pay-all.

I let's have a kind of a cool thing tonight, but I don't think I'm going I think I'm just gonna celebrate the evening as per usual alone in the dark No, no, no, I'm just gonna chill I think that's that's my evening so

All right, well, it's great.

Sam, it's just, by the way, we should take a look.

I always like doing this, especially when Sam's on the show.

He created the Sam Davison street cam for those watching.

He gave me too

much credit, Todd.

Not at all.

You're the one who put this together.

It's the street cam.

Look at that beautiful shot of downtown Madison.

You have the Overture Center on the right and my failed coffee shop right in the middle of the sky.

Is

that where it used to be?

Yeah.

Wow.

No, I've told this story on the show before.

That was the original location.

And then people in downtown Madison who will go unnamed on the air screwed me over, I lost $25,000.

But if you look through the window and see where the building is connected, I paid for that.

So I say on the show, if I ever get too big of a head, too much of an ego, I just look out the window to one of my...

That's

one

of my not so great ventures, but look at that.

It's a beautiful day out there in downtown Madison State Street So I get out there and enjoy the weather.

Oh, I know a Friday Friday, Sam.

I went down to see the Brewers of the Cubs

That's right.

You mentioned that by the sixth inning Kurt and I were out of there because it was 10-nothing.

Oh Yeah, that's a great.

However, the Brewers did get a win on

on Sunday last the yesterday afternoon.

So at least they did not get swept by the cubbies.

And they'll try again for other win.

It's Houston Astros.

The Astros are in town.

Broadcast time starts at 6 0 5 tonight in Richland Center, Oshkosh, Racine, Kenosha Park Falls and now in beautiful.

Heyward, Wisconsin, right here on the Civic Media radio network.

Tyler in Wisconsin Rapids, what do you say?

I think you should have been awarded best laugh at least.

Thank you, Tyler.

I appreciate that up there.

WFHR, the station up at Wisconsin Rapids, Melissa Kay and those people, they won some legit awards.

So they came home with some great, well-earned hardware.

Got a

local news team awards.

Yes, lots of...

Good on them.

100% and that really is one of our strengths here at Civic is our all the great local news folks in each of your respected areas Want to get to this we should do it now or when we come back the Tapper Ron Johnson Cut we have time now to sneak it in or not a little bit alright So here was over the weekend Wisconsin senior senator Republican Ron Johnson on State of the Union with Jake Tapper and they brought up the Wisconsin lead pipe issue Here's what Rojo had to say

I do want to start with something close to home for you.

At least nine schools in Milwaukee have been temporarily closed this year after some students were found to have elevated blood lead levels, which can cause developmental issues.

The CDC has denied city officials request for help after HHS Secretary Kennedy

uh... shut down the uh... agencies led the poisoning prevention program your fellow wisconsin senator dot democrats amy balton wrote his secretary kennedy saying he needs to immediately rectify the issue on quote did you agree have you talk to secretary kennedy about this

uh... good morning jake well first of all you know led

In paint and buildings, there's been an issue for decades.

We know how to test for it.

We know how to mitigate it.

I wouldn't think this is something that requires federal government involvement in it.

It sounds like Secretary Kennedy, again, when you have a...

budget now that's seven trillion dollars large having only been four point four trillion dollars large in 2019 and you try and pair back government You know, there's some things you're gonna have to reverse and it sounds like a Secretary Kennedy is gonna take a look at this and see if you've got he needs some experts on this in CDC But again, this is an issue that's been along around a long time and local and state officials ought to be able to handle this

Local and state officials ought to be able to handle this that is Ron Johnson

Wisconsin senior senator republican on state of the union jake tapper this weekend local and state officials ought to be able to handle it according to ron johnson now here's a guy we don't have or we're gonna come back here's the little they like me to do teases as we say so here's the tease coming up

I'm gonna tell you a story about when Ron Johnson first got elected U.S.

Senator and what he told my former boss about Wisconsinites stricken with drought and the compassion and the caring level that Ron Johnson had for them.

So these comments on folks in Milwaukee, not a surprise, nor is it unexpected.

Not unexpected to have a great time with you every week.

Come on back.

It's another edition on Monday on the Todd Allball Show right here across Wisconsin on the Civic Media.

for Radio

Network.

wherever it may lead and having fun doing it.

Welcome back to the Tattleball Show on the Civic Media Ready Network.

Zomers on the disabled list still.

So Sam Davidson is pitch-hitting once again as a producer and engineer.

Sam, always a pleasure.

We're talking, you can always see the secret shows.

We like to call it during the break on the stream, Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, and the like on the stream.

We just talk about, sometimes it's the same thing we're talking about on the air, sometimes not.

And we got a text in from Barb in Waukesha on W-A-U-K, who started thought about you while watching on Friday night, the Brewers game.

At least your tickets were free because I said I went you know I was fortunate enough to have a couple of the civic tickets my buddy Kurt and I went the Brewers lost 10 nothing so but we had a we had a couple of hot dogs and then my I Traditionally like to have one Miller high life at the game And so I took a picture of me holding up the high life with Kurt and I and we sent that to we called the family group chat on WhatsApp

And so my two godsons are on that, Kurt's sons, and one of them, Jason, said, Todd of Soap said at Miller Light, dropping the stadium rights, he couldn't stomach having one there.

Which is only partly true, but I enjoy a good Miller High Life note again.

And you're saying that the nitty here in town, dollar highlights?

That's right, weeknights from 10 to 11 p.m.

You can go and get a Miller High Life for one dollar.

A buck!

That's right.

You can't beat it.

And as I said, it's the champagne of beer.

It's old and old marketing.

That's right.

I like it.

I think it's a fresh crisper, fresh beer.

I

agree.

That's a tangent for today.

All right.

Before the break, play a little Ron Johnson, senior Republican senator from, uh, from Wisconsin was on Jake Tapper show over the weekend, state of the union.

and said that he thinks that the lead pipe problem in Milwaukee, the people in Wisconsin and the state and local officials should be able to handle it.

Here's the deal.

Back when I used to be a Republican and worked for former state Senator Ron Johnson, about this time of year, usually in February, March, they have Republicans used to have something called Lincoln Day dinners.

It's like their annual fundraiser get together.

They usually choose elected official.

So this was in Hillsboro, Wisconsin at the Vernon County Lincoln Day dinner years and years ago in Southwest Wisconsin.

Ron Johnson had just been newly elected.

It was, I can't remember, nineties or maybe early 2000s.

It doesn't matter.

Whatever he was first elected.

And, uh, uh, it was a year of a drought, a really, really bad drought.

And, and so Dale was there as the local state senator and he seated at the head table next to Ron Johnson, Republican, fellow Republican.

And he's saying, look, you know, this is really bad for our farmers and, and here's what we can do at the state level.

But what ideas do you have at the federal level?

How can our two offices work together for our mutual constituent, our agricultural farmers during this drought in Wisconsin?

And Ron Johnson just kept eating the whole time.

And finally when Dale, he put down his, he put down his fork on the plate with kind of a clank.

And he finally looked at Dale and he said, Dale, what does that have to do?

with lowering the deficit.

That's what I'm laser focused on.

I went back to eating the salad.

And Dale told me on the way home, he goes, yeah, I got the message right away.

And that's a great example of who this guy is, Ron Johnson.

And there are other people I will not mention, other Republicans, because I don't have authorization to do so.

There are other high level Republicans that I know who have told me firsthand.

that when their family or people they know have a federal problem, they tell them specifically, call Senator Tammy Baldwin's office because Johnson will not do anything for you.

They're notoriously bad at constituent case work.

And so hearing Ron Johnson say this on Jake Tapper, that he's just pointing this off onto people, but we shouldn't be bothered with this.

Kids are being exposed to let-in Milwaukee public schools.

We don't have time for that.

It's not a surprise nor is unexpected eight five five seven five two four eight four two eight five five seven five two four eight four two Let's go to Nick on the phone Nick listening on WM DX here Madison Nick.

Thanks for calling.

Let's see

Hey, thanks for having me Yes, it's just uh, I was just listening to you talking talking about going to a brewery and

First of all, you know, maybe you should hang up right now.

I'm a White Sox fan.

But that's fine.

That's fine.

Yeah.

But but I remember one time I went to a game.

It was my friend's birthday and basically we got there.

It was the last minute thing.

Right.

And then we got there and then he said, OK, Nick, you set up the grill.

I'm going to get tickets back.

as I was grilling out, and he said, okay, I was given three choices, standing room only, reduced visibility, or behind home plate.

So we took behind home plate.

Of course we did.

Of course.

We're not in here.

How was it?

It was really good.

And actually, we both could...

have an honest disagreement with the umps based on, you know, the pitches, you know, because we were right behind

it.

Right.

So this was not just speculation.

You saw the same view as the umpire was.

Absolutely,

yes.

That's

fantastic.

So here we are.

And this was at Ampham Field or back when it used to be County

Stadium?

In fact, I know it was still Miller Park.

Miller

Park, yeah.

Always followed Miller Park.

Don't ever follow anything else.

Now, so you were that close.

Here's the question.

I want to, what's her name?

We only got a minute left here.

The Brewer's Girl, the Buxom Brewer's Girl that's always on TV with a little cut blouse.

Were you near her?

Um, no, but I wish I was

You know who I'm talking about if you watch Brewer's game She has season tickets and she has like a Twitter account and only not maybe not only fans, but like something like that I don't know so All right, Nick.

I preach that was a great story.

I appreciate you calling in and best look cool white socks.

Yeah, thank you appreciate that.

How about that Sam?

There you go

That's what you want when you go to a Brewers game.

All right, come on back.

What you want is a Jack Kelly from Wisconsin.

A watch going to review some of the new stories of the week on the more serious side.

Don't go anywhere.

It's a Monday, Monday edition of the all ball show right here on the Civic Medium.

wherever it may lead and having fun doing it.

Welcome back to the Tahleball show on the Civic Media Ready Network.

It is now 35 minutes past the hour of two o'clock on Monday, May 5th, Cinco de Mayo, Sam Davidson, our producer and engineer today, out for Zomers, who's on the DL list, but Sam brought in the...

Maracas, which I appreciate for a second to mile.

I appreciate it.

Speaking of that, we were talking before the, we had a caller call in and said they got in front row seats.

There was a White Sox fan got in front row seats or close to it at a Brewer's game.

And I asked if you'd seen the woman that sits there, you know, that is speaking of Maracas.

And he said, no, I never had.

And we, I couldn't think of the name, but it's John from West Bend, front row Amy.

front row Amy.

And so it's a real thing.

And Sam, she has a big social media following.

And she goes to just about every Brewer's game, sits right behind home plate.

And she keeps the score.

Big deal.

Yeah, that's great.

So it's fantastic.

Anyway, thank you very much, Sam.

So thank you to our finalists for clarifying that.

Speaking of big news, always big news is where you can find the big news of the state of Wisconsin, WisconsinWatch.org.

That's Wisconsin Watch.

.org and Jack Kelly, one of the many fine writers and journalists from that organization joins us here at the desk in our studio.

Jack, I appreciate you being here.

Thank you so very much.

Yeah, good to be back.

Good as always to see you.

Well, it's a pleasure.

And I think we're going to start doing this on a regular basis.

I appreciate that because Mondays there always seems to be a lot to get through.

And you folks, you can people can sign up for your newsletter, which is fantastic.

They can also check out the stories at WisconsinWatch.org.

but this will be great now on Mondays to have you help us sort through the news of the weekend despite the fact I hear now that you're a Chicago fan as

well.

Just baseball, just baseball.

Just baseball.

But you're a Packer fan.

I am a Packer fan and, you know, let's keep in mind the NFL reign supreme, certainly in my household.

Very good.

All

right.

Let's turn to a little news over the weekend.

We have a...

2020, 2026 seems to be a long ways away, but I guess these days in political terms, it is not.

And we do not know whether or not Governor Evers is going to run for election on the Democratic side, but there's already an entry in the Kentucky Derby of Politics in Wisconsin, the governor's race.

Yeah, I mean, it's really interesting.

So, you know, Washington County executive Josh Schoeman got into the race over the weekend.

And, you know, there could be

many more Republican candidates to come as well.

It could be a quite crowded Democratic primary if Governor Tony Evers decides not to seek a third term.

He has gone back and he has not publicly said what he plans to do.

He keeps saying, I want to wait until after the state budget.

I want to wait until after the state budget.

When you talk to folks in the know, it seems to go back and forth.

So I think the question remains outstanding there.

But yeah, an interesting entry into the race here from Josh Schoeman.

In some ways, he might remind people, you know, going back to yesteryear of someone like Governor Scott Walker, you know, Milwaukee area county executive.

younger guys, 43 combat veteran, and could potentially be an interesting foil for somebody like Tony Evers, who would be almost 30 years his senior.

And we saw how effectively Republicans were able to weaponize President Joe Biden's age against him.

Obviously, the governor is still a good decade younger than the former president was, but is another person who is not known for his public speaking.

It would be interesting to see how that dynamic would play in the race.

Fascinating as always,

Wisconsin politics, 18 months out.

I really don't know the guy at all.

I don't know a lot about him.

Is he regarded in Washington County as someone to get things done?

Is he fairly partisan?

Do we know a lot about this guy?

Yeah, I mean, honestly, he popped onto my radar just in the last couple of weeks when the rumors started swirling that he was getting interested in.

And I believe he was on the county board and has been a mover and shaker kind of in county level politics for a while.

Of course, you know, Washington

County is one of the, it's one of the counties, right?

We love

to talk about the Wow County is when it comes to Wisconsin politics.

I think it's interesting to see, you know, if you look at statewide candidates recently, right?

Eric Havde was a Madison Democrat.

You know, Brad Schimmel had a lot of previous baggage from being a statewide elected official.

Of course he was from Waukesha County, but you know, he was attorney general and.

the sexual assault kit backlog, etc., was really baggage that I think hit him hard as well as Elon Musk's influence in the state supreme court race.

Came back to bite him, probably.

It'll be interesting for me to see if a guy like Josh Showman, who comes from the heartland of Republican politics in this state, is able to gain subtraction.

You know, there's something to be said about getting in the race early.

You know, if you pick up some Memento, maybe some key endorsements to scare some people off, marry some money, it could be interesting.

I would be really interesting for me to see, you know, you would have kind of a really interesting dichotomy of the two term Democratic governor.

been a public servant for a long time versus a much younger opponent kind of from the Republican heartland in the state.

So I think that, you know, that hypothetical shapes up to be interesting.

It also shapes up to be interesting when you consider if Evers does decide not to retire, not seek a third term, the whole line of potential Democratic candidates as well.

So it would be interesting to see

In 26, if we had an open governor's race, I think that that would be pandemonium for sure.

Interesting.

I just found it interesting as someone who likes to study politics or pay attention.

Yesterday, on the old Twitter, Twix X, whichever you want to call it, Bill McCoshen, a longtime Republican, Bill McCosh, of course, former chief of staff and secretary of commerce, former Republican governor, Tommy Thompson tweeted this out.

He says, the case against.

a GOP gubernatorial primary.

One, the consulting class is willing to destroy their competition in the primary because the bigger payday comes in the general.

Two, candidates run or candidates buy the notion that they have to go nuclear to win.

And third, neither Tommy Thompson or Scott Walker had to destroy their opponents in their primary to win, whether they had mostly compelling vision and positive messaging to attract a majority of primary voters.

And they dramatically outworked their opponents.

Macassan over the weekend.

I just found it interesting.

I know I'm not trying to read into that.

I don't know whether Bill Macassan is a showman guy or not, or whether he's just saying Republicans shouldn't destroy their own.

And I would say that probably the Democrats, to a certain degree, these primaries these days are just brutal.

Yeah, I mean, they are bruising for sure, I think.

I think there's two points here to lift up.

Maybe nothing better demonstrates how breezy they can be than the 2022 Republican gubernatorial primary.

Between Tim Michaels, a late entry and former Lieutenant Governor Rebecca Clayfish, you know, Michaels spent literally a small fortune.

Several million dollars on TV ads and

then

got the Trump endorsement and was able to get across the finish line Ultimately, you know pretty comfortably in that in that race But it's hard and and and we saw that and then of course 2022 was quite a good political environment for Democrats, especially coming off of the Dobbs decision, etc But you saw the Republican Party of Wisconsin and it's German, right?

Chairman Schimming wanted to move away from primaries right away.

He talked about we need to avoid a prime

primary in the 24 U.S.

Senate race.

Hovey didn't really have a serious primary opponent.

He talked about it again in the state supreme court race.

Of course, nonpartisan, nonpartisan on paper only as your listeners probably very well know at this point.

And they didn't really have that, right?

There was no February primary like we saw in 23 when Dan Kelly and Jennifer Durrow beat up on each other.

And then Janna Protase was just blue Dan Kelly out of the water.

They're interested in avoiding this.

That being said, the last two times that they were able to avoid it, their candidate still lost on the Republican side.

And so there maybe is something to being tested in the primaries.

Then again, primary day to election day in Wisconsin is only three months.

That's pretty short compared to many states.

And so if you have to spend a lot of money and a lot of time winning one small piece of the electorate, which is the Republican primary base,

that can set you back in the 90 day sprint to the finish line for the general election.

We're talking with Jack Kelly.

He is from WisconsinWatch.org.

That's WisconsinWatch.org.

I'll just go to the phone line quickly, 855-752-4842.

Oz is on the phone listing in beautiful Washington County.

Oz, thanks for listening and calling.

What's the?

Thanks for the

great show.

Appreciate it.

Yeah, it's pretty good.

I like your laugh.

Well, thanks.

That came from the

jeans, you know.

What do you want to say, Oz?

Well, anyhow, I'm talking about Josh Scheinman, whatever it's called.

He was on the bus for Trump back in November.

Big bandwagon.

And our property tax was like $200 this year.

In Washington County.

Yes, Washington County.

So what's your you live there?

What's your what's your opinion of showman and what what what kind of reputation does

he have?

He sends out a nice color from newsletter telling how great our Washington County is and everything.

It's fine.

It's fine for a while and we haven't got that for a while now.

So, you know

So so he does some yeah, so he apparently does some PR work But you're saying your property taxes and you know who knows there's lots of different things that go into property taxes going up But at least your personal property taxes are going up

Especially we're on a fixed income, you know,

right right now absolutely.

I appreciate the call I appreciate the call as thank you so very much.

Have a great day there in in beautiful Washington County Jack again, I think that's gonna you know, it it's gonna

still wait early, but we'll see how this kind of comes out in terms of I'm always interested because because the photo wasn't the photo or the video the announcement and he's in the the plaid shirt with the camo baseball cap and I'm like You know like Scott Walker

He wasn't a real hunter, a real motorcycle rider, but because Tommy Thompson set the stage, who really is and was a hunter and Harley rider.

I mean, so Walker tried to become that persona.

It'll be interesting to see.

I have no idea.

Maybe Shulman is, but I just find it seemed a little too.

point-on-point for me and in that opener.

Yeah I mean he was doing some media today as well and you know the whole time he's doing some appearances and you know kind of the the trucker cap with the camo and the showman

for

governor logo on the front of it

and so you

know it is definitely you know when you're

when you're going to run a statewide campaign, you need to send as many signals to voters as you possibly can.

And I think that the plaid flannel with the vest and the hat sends a message.

And also, if you watch the launch video, big emphasis on Son of a Lutheran pastor, a lot of emphasis on his faith, many, many mentions of his service.

in Kuwait.

Those are some of the hallmarks that candidates really try to lift up when they're trying to make a first

impression.

Evers is telling people both he's running and not running any insight into that

I You know every every few days I chuck him with folks and it really does flip back and forth.

I hear similar things It's I think on my one of the last conversations.

I had it was you know, definitely leaning towards yes You know, he's had a lot of success, especially in the courts recently in the state court especially in front of the state supreme court especially and that could really

some of those wins could set him up potentially if he were to win the third term to have more power than he's had the last kind of six and a half years.

And so, it'll be interesting to see if nothing else, Tony Evers remains an outstanding fundraiser, and so he could probably raise 20, 30 million bucks in a heartbeat, which goes a long, long ways, especially, it's not that expensive to buy advertising in Wisconsin for

a

candidate.

Right, exactly.

And interesting to see in terms of now that you're not going to have

Judas Priest, Ben Wickler as the chair of the Democrats anymore, because Wickler is stepping down.

You get Joseph Pecky.

Does he step into that role?

Can he keep the gravy train rolling for money for Democrats?

To your point, do you think it's really Evers who's the great fundraiser?

Or is it Ben Wickler helping the Evers campaign fundraiser?

Yeah, I mean, that is a fascinating dynamic as well, right?

God, I don't remember the exact number, but in terms of statewide elections, well, Ben Wickler was chair of the Democratic Party.

I

think he only lost

four or five of them.

He was, like, you know, 19 and four or something,

which is incredible.

A

lot to do with the fundraising,

of course.

They run circles around the state Republican Party by and large.

We're going to come back, talk more to Jack Kelly of Wisconsin.

Watch after this.

It has a great story, a link to Massachusetts with the arrest of Judge Dugan in Milwaukee last week.

Talk to Jack Kelly about that.

Stay with us at the All Balls Show for Monday on the Civic Media Party Network.

you

Having fun doing it.

Welcome back to the title of our show on the Civic Media Ready Network.

It is eight before the hour of three o'clock.

And we have an hour two, a little energy drink edition of What's Worst Today.

We talked about because you were you were here pitch hitting on Friday, Sam, Red Bull and Monster.

That's right.

And you said you hadn't had either one, right?

Right, correct.

So we'll see.

Jack Kelly from WisconsinWatch.org.

What's worse, monster or Red Bull?

Oh man, I think probably monster.

But I, I couldn't tell you the last time that I had an energy drink.

Actually, I could probably tell you the last time I had a Red Bull.

but it was probably an undergrad and it was not just rentables.

A little mixer, a little mixer.

Chuckster listening in on WMDX here in Madison, but he's down in beautiful Racine.

We were talking about Shulman entering the governor's race for the GOP side says Shulman has been taking shots at Governor Evers.

He was the county administrator.

Oh, this is nice.

Who allowed Washington County golf courses to open during COVID-19 and shut.

when all the other courses were shut down nationwide in the early days of COVID in April 2020.

So there you go, there's something.

I mean, you know, but to that point, that is exactly the kind of culture warrior thing that could adhere you to in a Republican primary, especially to someone like President Donald Trump.

Well, yeah, they're all going for Trump's.

A blessing, right?

Yeah, I mean,

the Trump endorsement is make or break, I

think.

I used the term jokingly that they all like to genuflect before Trump.

And now over the weekend, he literally, this is real, truth social, out a picture of himself in the Pope's costume dress and says he wants to be Pope.

I'm not making that up.

I think he said this morning on Air Force, I think it was on Air Force One.

He's not sure how that got reshared on the accounts.

Okay, very good.

On the more serious side, he wrote a great piece at Wisconsin Watch, Jack Kelly, here, entitled, Arrested Milwaukee Judge Echoes, Massachusetts Case.

with one key difference.

Give us the details.

Yeah, so it was striking how many details were similar in this.

So this goes back to a 2019 case, which involves a 2018 incident.

It took federal prosecutors several months to collect evidence and impanel the grand jury and get an indictment of a Massachusetts judge named Shelly Richmond-Joseph.

In that case, Joseph was accused of helping an unauthorized immigrant avoid an ICE agent after a court appearance.

To do so, it was alleged that she had the defendant leave her courtroom through a non-public exit, and then eventually another courthouse official actually badged this gentleman out of the back of the building.

And so both Judge Joseph and another court official

were indicted.

Of course that probably sounds similar if you've heard any of the details in the case of Judge Hannah Dugan in Milwaukee County.

You know the criminal complaint against her alleges that she you know told

this defendant to come with her and lend them through a non-public exit, which when you talk to people who spend a lot of time in the Milwaukee County Courthouse and say, well, they actually ended up in the public hallway anyways.

As they noted, the agents watched them walk to the elevator, decided not to arrest them, then waited for them to go outside, and then eventually the man tried to flee, and they caught him after a foot pursuit.

And so kind of those parallels of this idea of letting somebody through a non-public exit to try to avoid ICE officials.

Um.

that key difference and you might have picked up on it there.

I talked about how prosecutors were secured in indictment of the Massachusetts judge in 2019.

That is not what happened in the case of Milwaukee so far, at least unless it just happened in the last 20 minutes and I've missed something.

They served her with a federal criminal complaint, which I'm told by former federal prosecutors is quite unusual.

So how do you get a federal criminal complaint?

You as the prosecutor go before a federal judge and

instance it was a federal magistrate judge excuse me and have to establish probable cause.

If the judge signs off on it then you can do it and then it can lead to the arrest and the booking and everything else that we've seen.

That's very different than getting an indictment which is where prosecutors go before a grand jury of other you know in this instance would be other Wisconsin residents and present evidence to show that there is probable cause and then secure an indictment.

And it's also noteworthy because

It starts a clock.

So there is a clock.

I was told it was 21 days.

And so if this was, you know, two Fridays ago, they have 21 days from that day to put their evidence together, get C to grand jury, make their arguments, and then try to secure an indictment.

And if they don't, the charges could get thrown out.

People were very critical of this.

You know, I was talking to a former federal prosecutor who is a law professor in California now.

She made the point to me that normally when you're doing this via a criminal complaint,

you know, if somebody is a flight risk or they're a danger to the community and you need to pick them in the custody now.

There's no evidence of that.

Judge Duggan is in her 60s.

She is a sitting circuit court judge.

There's no evidence that she was a flight risk.

Stephen Krabiter is another Milwaukee area attorney who is a former federal prosecutor as well, so far as to say that...

you know, the point of doing it this way was to make a political point.

He told me, he said, quote, you know, normally a person charged even with felonies, age 60 plus with no record, no chance of fleeing would be summoned to show up at an appointed time for booking an arraignment, not here.

And that was the point.

And so it is really striking between these two cases, very similar circumstances, but they went the more traditional route back in 2019, grander indictment versus this kind of hurried criminal complaint process.

And when you ask folks who are familiar in the space, they would say, that was the point, the send a

message.

And that's why I love it.

You focus at WisconsinWatch.org is that you boil this stuff down as you just did for us here.

You give us the facts.

And when you get the entertainment out of it, it appears you're reporting to others that this really was intentional to somehow intimidate the court system, to intimidate the public, that, hey, you cross us, this is what's happening.

And I think that, for me at least, I'll speak for myself, is one of the most disturbing things about this whole incident is the suppression of the public, suppression of the courts, and capitulation to one person in Donald Trump.

Yeah, I think it's also worth pointing out.

The FBI director, Cash Patel, tweeted about this, then deleted it.

Later, I believe it was director Patel who tweeted out the photo of her in handcuffs.

Again, this is a 60-something woman.

She's a sitting elected official.

When the now president, formerly the former president, was indicted, he did not show up in handcuffs.

So the AG talked about it.

Yeah.

Interesting.

Always great to talk to you, Jack Kelly.

You can find all these stories and more at WisconsinWatch.org.

We'll see you soon, my friend.

Yeah.

Thanks so much for having me.

Thank you.

Stay tuned.

Hour two is next.

Live from the Civic Media World Headquarters in Madison, Wisconsin, it's the Todd Alba Show.

And now, pursuing truth wherever it may lead, here's your host, Todd Alba.

Across Wisconsin on the Civic Media radio network and streaming worldwide on the Civic Media app,

Good afternoon, everybody.

I'm Todd Albaugh, along with Mr. Sam Davidson, our producer and engineer for the day.

It is Monday, May 5th, 2025.

It is a great day to be Wisconsinite.

Glad to have you along.

Hour number two of the broadcast.

It is now six past the hour of three o'clock.

Welcome in, everybody.

Zommer is on the DL list still, and Sam, great to have you along.

We appreciate you.

Get up early in the morning at the crack of dawn.

and are producing the John and Gordy show from six until eight.

And then you go down and you cook breakfast at the local bar and grill here on State Street.

And now you know I'm not kidding.

And now, but now you've come back to do our show.

We appreciate it very much.

Yeah, glad to be here.

It's always

always a pleasure.

Well, once again, it's pretty quiet right now.

I like doing this when he's here.

He created the Sam Davidson Street Cam looking down on State Street now and Fairchild.

Look, look at that skyline.

You've got the beautiful all glass over your center on the right and.

the rectangular brick building there on the left.

It's a little slow today.

Now, this is like graduation week at UW.

You, Sam Davidson, as a Badger alum now.

Do you remember what it was like last year during this time when you graduated?

Well, it was two years ago for me.

Two years already?

Oh my gosh.

It's been a while.

Exciting though, right?

Exciting, yeah.

I mean, I was very glad to be done with school.

But I mean, look at me here again doing online school again now.

Now

you're going back for a master's.

It's crazy.

But it is I don't know.

I always feel a little nostalgic at spring You see all the grads walking in there and

their gowns taking pictures.

Yeah, the black and red stoles cardinal red stoles and and There's always hope and excitement, but someone who lives in Madison I'm what I get a little a tinge of sadness because I because it's a

This city changes its vibe over the summer when you don't have all those young people in town to meet.

I think you're the first person who's ever told me that they're sad about the students leaving.

Really?

Usually people are happy about that because there's no more traffic downtown.

I guess, yeah, sure, okay, fine.

But I don't know.

But I see where you're coming

from.

I like the youthful vibe.

I just think you got the...

university sports obviously but it's just you're walking around and and I don't know there's a certain energy in in a college town and when the college students aren't out here then you you kind of miss that at least I do but then in October or pardon me in in in August it's like the swallows returning to Capistrano everybody comes back

for

the return migration.

They return migration.

That's right.

Well, Sam Grayton have you along.

We're going to do what's worse here in a second.

Oh, many thanks to Jack Kelly from WisconsinWatch.org.

You could always see all their publications at WisconsinWatch.org.

Our old Luke Mathers checking in.

Apparently he's listening to the show and he himself a Badger alum.

Madison is better in the summer and that's coming from.

Badger and he called me a grumpy old man before the show now.

Oh, I don't want to put up with the kids and traffic and go around See I appreciate the youth And Luke now he's right on the cusp.

Oh, not really.

He's still

you well to me.

He's an old man

Wow.

Watch him come storming in

here now.

Right.

Well, you're on your way out of here, so

what do you

care?

You're exactly.

To me, he's still very, very young.

Only 30.

So, I mean, that's young to me.

But to you, I suppose, is the young buck.

I think I'm still the youngest employee yet.

Well, for a couple more weeks, the youngest employee.

For a couple more

weeks.

Yes, for a couple more weeks.

Luke says ouch.

I still think you're I still think you're young and youthful and he's got a brand new haircut.

He looks fantastic.

I still I'm still going to be here for a while.

All right.

We got West Wars coming up and also now this is making a lot of news here today, Sam.

Let's get into this.

The Trump stir.

Tweet a truth-sweeted.

What do you call it?

I don't even see tweets are just easy to say tweet Whatever is social media platform is true social.

What do you can't say social

out

truth, but that's it you rarely is

So that's why

I don't like to say that Here's this is actual from from the Trumpster.

I believe last night or early this morning Quote the movie industry in America is dying all capitals dying very fast death

Other countries are offering all sorts of incentives to draw our filmmakers and studios away from the United States.

Hollywood and many other areas within the USA are being devastated.

This is a concerted effort by the nations or by other nations.

He puts nations in capital, other nations and therefore a national security threat.

Really?

It's a national security threat.

Trump says it is in addition to everything else, messaging and propaganda.

Therefore.

I've authorized the Department of Commerce of the United States Trade Representative to immediately begin and process the instituting of a 100% tariff on any and all movies coming into our country that are produced in foreign lands.

And then all in caps.

We want movies made in America again.

Exclamation point.

So now, now he's onto the movies.

He he wants to 100% tariff on any movie that is not shot and made in the United States of America.

So lots of news on this already today.

Great story at WPR, Wisconsin public radio dot org headline, Wisconsin proposal calls for creation of state film office tax incentives for film production.

Wisconsin now only one of four states with no dedicated film office.

So now Democratic Governor Tony Evers, apparently in his new state budget, is saying, hey, let's have a film office.

But I, being the resident old person here in civic media, I'm old enough to remember when Wisconsin did have a film office.

And it quite frankly took a little bit of work.

But I found an article.

This is from December 4.

2009 in the isthmus entitled Madison in the Movies behind the scenes and Now there's a place called Milwaukee production rental Has a great blog here.

Let me get the guy's name and credit him for this great blog.

He wrote a John Klein Not my friend Jonathan Klein, but another John Klein says Wisconsin film and tax incentives I'm old enough to remember when Wisconsin had a film office

It was the brainchild, hang on to your hats, a former Republican governor, Tommy George Thompson, who said, ladies and gentlemen, we need more films here.

He created a film office and it was closed in 2005, 2005, because the Republican legislature didn't keep funding it.

Now in 2005 if memory serves I believe Jim Doyle was governor then but the Republican Democrat But the the Republican legislature did not want to do not want to keep funding it and then it was kind of brought back for a while But guess what Republican governor killed it?

Scotty Walker Scotty Walker Republican killed the film on the second iteration of the film office in Wisconsin so again

If you want to go back to the olden days, back to the 90s and 2000s, the guy who was really forward thinking and put this into action in Wisconsin was Tommy Thompson.

And then it was subsequent iterations of his own party, the Republicans, who killed this off.

And now here we have Republican, Maga, Donald Trump saying, well, we're going to put tariffs on these film companies, these films, if they're not shot in the United States of America.

And God bless Governor Evers for trying to bring it back now, but just wait and see.

Wait and see what Robin Voss and Republicans in the legislature, are they gonna fund this?

Or are they gonna say, oh no, these are movies that are about front row Amy or whatever they're gonna say.

You know, they're gonna find some cultural thing while they, you know, movies are bad for kids, bad for kids, wrong messaging, right?

And by the way, a friend of mine brought this up.

They're going to throw more of this DEI stuff out there.

You know, movies are all about DEI, diversity, equity, inclusion.

This is a great factoid because it's the Republican Party of Wisconsin right now who has a bigger staff than what I used to be back in the party, you know, years ago, bigger staff than they ever, ever had before.

And they now have dedicated field offices and staff.

in Milwaukee and other urban places specifically for recruiting black voters and Latino voters.

So a party that says, no, no, no, we shouldn't be doing things to be inclusionary or DEI, they want to be against that.

Guess what the Wisconsin Republican party is doing.

Look, you Maga folks, you better call up Brian Shimming and you better get rid of that.

because I don't know why they're having state offices to recruit black and Hispanic folks when they're supposedly against DEI.

You see the hypocrisy of it?

It's just it's just it's goofy.

So anyway, we got off the subject a little bit here, but this film office now.

We should be doing things to tax incentives and otherwise to bring filmmakers here, but to have 100 percent tariff like Trump wants to do, that's just.

Back crap crazy eight five five seven five two four eight four two eight five five seven five two four eight four two Go to the phone lines mark and per to sack mark.

What do you have sir?

I think the word you're looking for is asinine And I mean I watch the movies and you and you watch the credits because for a lot of the movies that I watched you you want to see what they kind of Little thing they can have little vignette.

They have at the very tail end of the of the credits or mixing with the credits some

But I mean, you watch those, and you see Georgia, and Ontario, and Australia, and Louisiana, and the whole gamut of that some of these movies, there's international flavor to many of these movies.

I mean, British Columbia, and Ontario, and I think one I just saw had Australia, or some place in Africa.

You go to the location you want to have the thing, but the whole

Lord of the Rings thing, I think they filmed most of that in New Zealand.

They

could have filmed that in the Baraboo Bluffs.

Oh, little cross.

I'm kidding, I'm kidding.

Yeah, I know.

It's just beyond me that the Trump is... Nobody is telling Donald Trump no.

The man who does not understand that he actually took an oath to uphold the Constitution, if any other man had said something like that, or man or woman had said something like that,

They'd be looking to impeach the

person immediately because I think Trump salty over the over the Trump movie, right?

Uh, that made him not look so good this year.

I think that's what part of it is.

Really.

I'm not kidding.

But why?

Well, I got the phone marked you.

Can you name some of the famous movies that have been shot in Wisconsin?

Can you name it from a while back?

Oh, God, I couldn't.

Uh, here's my one of my favorite.

I remember when this happened, 1994, long before Sam was a twinkle in his parent's eyes.

Uh, I love trouble.

I love trouble.

A big Julia Roberts movie.

Yeah, I could.

Yeah, I don't know if I ever saw that movie.

Nick Nolte was as well.

It was filmed in Devil's Lake.

Lots of this footage is shot in Devil's Lake.

Yeah, and I think just to the west of us, I think the movie Sweetland, that was filmed in Minnesota or North Dakota.

I never saw that movie, but that's a wonderful movie.

All right.

Thanks, Mark.

I appreciate the call.

Thank you so much.

I'm up against the clock here.

If you want to weigh in on movies in Wisconsin, eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two, eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two, a chain reaction.

Nineteen ninety six, the deep end of the ocean.

Nineteen ninety nine, public enemies.

Twenty oh nine.

All films shot in Wisconsin because Tommy Thompson.

had a Wisconsin Film Office.

Now covering even what was to bring it back.

What's worse is next is the all-ball show in Pacific Media.

Lake Superior to Lake Michigan.

Green Bay, the Mississippi River to all points in between.

Hello, Wisconsin.

It's another Monday, May 5th.

Cinco de Mayo 2025 here on the Civic Media Radio Network, Todd Alba, along with Sam Davidson, who is pinching for Aaron Zamers, who remains on the 15-day disabled list.

No, not 15.

We hope not.

Sam hopes not 15 days.

but we appreciate you being here, Sam.

Before what's worse here, finishing up the subject we were talking about, Governor Evers wants to bring back Wisconsin Film Office in this state budget.

Tommy Thompson had one in the 90s and 2000s.

We were going through some of the films that have been shot here.

This all is coming back to light because Donald Trump now, truth socially and out on his social media, saying he wants 100% tariff on movies that are not filmed in the United States.

Well, of course you might want to have incentives for filmmakers to make films in the United States and and to Mark's point earlier pretty tough to shoot some of these movies You know in the right place the United States anyway off the text line here People text in we appreciate that Wisconsin movies

that were shot in Wisconsin or movies shot in Wisconsin.

Ali listing in Madison on WMDX says the lake house, the movie, the lake house.

Never saw that one.

We should have Pete Schwabba on.

See, he would know all these things.

What else we have here?

Rhonda in Madison on MDX says back to school, the Rodney Dangerfield movie.

After school, PBS shows after school specialty drink.

Hawker Smokes Match with Scott Bayo.

There was a movie called Hawker Smokes Match with Scott Bale, who of course, that was a big Trumpster guy.

What happened to him?

This is long before your time, Sam, but Scott Bale was in happy days and they had a spinoff called Joni loves Chachi and he was a big heartthrob back in the day and now he's just gone wackadoodles.

Kurt in Madison on WMDX says the movie Animal House Toga Party.

In the United States, the University of Wisconsin-Madison had a large toga party in 1978, drawing around 10,000 students.

He says, I was there.

Really?

So that's what inspired Animal House Kurt?

I did not know that.

Now, Sam, you said during the break, you just went to your first toga party.

A couple of weeks ago, yeah.

That's incredible.

One of my friends, his birthday party, he said, wear a toga.

So I did.

Very free in the romance.

Yeah, I gotta agree.

Right?

Exactly.

It's that time of year.

Spring is here.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4.

Let's go to the phone lines.

David, calling in.

David, we appreciate you listening to the show.

What have you got for us, David?

Well, two movies that were made in Milwaukee, major league.

Yes.

And one called Gale Gale.

What was the

second one?

Gale Gale.

Ooh, I hope that survey saw that one.

I've kind of heard of it.

Remember who was in it or

not?

I don't remember.

I know that Milwaukee was standing in for Chicago because Milwaukee currently looked a lot like Chicago in the old

days.

In the old days.

Yeah, that's a good point.

I appreciate the call.

Yeah, David, thank you very much.

Thanks for your listenership.

Yeah, how could I have forgotten Major League filmed at the old county stadium?

And that was supposed to be the Cleveland at the time, Indians ballpark.

And so, of course, late great Bob Euker played Harry Doyle, the announcer in that county stadium.

I remember when that was shot, the first edition of Major League.

855-752-4842, let's go to Racine.

And Sharkey, listening to Racine.

Sharkey, thanks for listening.

What do you have?

Thank you, 1990.

I was hired for ABC films and Mark Harmon and Cheryl and Finn was Dillinger.

Really?

Oh, yes.

Yes.

And I actually even got a spot.

They were so nice.

It helps to have a cousin on the on the board.

I have to tell you, I have to tell you that I'm, you know, you got the other one with Johnny Depp.

Yes.

I still can say.

in my heart that Mr. Dillinger,

in

my movie, was a lot more probable as being a fine Dillinger individual, because the other guy depth as long as I was on a ship, you know,

pirate ship.

That was really cool.

That was really cool.

That's awesome.

Thanks, Sharky.

I appreciate the call.

That's fantastic.

Yeah, the Public Enemy is 2009.

says here is a story from the Isthmus.

After his local shoot, Johnny Depp made a habit of interacting with the crowd, waiting outside.

He signed autographs and posed for pictures, driving the fans wild.

Director Michael Mann, with a strong impression on local extras, says he's a very thorough director, said Michael Burrowed.

Nobody messes with what he wants.

He knows exactly what he wants, how he wants to do it.

So I'm kind of skipping down a little bit.

During the shoot at the Capitol.

I remember when this happened, actually, I was working at the Capitol at the time.

Actors were assembled at the old industrial lot on East Washington Avenue and the production base camp, including man's trailer, was in the parking lot between Reynolds Field and Das Kromberg.

The local cast of the movie did a lot of waiting around.

It was absolutely boring as hell, said one of the people.

They just put us in a waiting room.

I was literally there for 10 hours before they needed us.

The headquarters for the local shoot was at the Sheraton out by the Coliseum on John Nolan That's where road Ward robe fittings were done for some of the extras talent Johnny Depp stayed right across the street Sam at the concourse.

How about that?

Robert executive producer Robert De Niro showed up in Wisconsin to check out the shoot as well So there you go a little bit of a hitherto unknown facts on the old Wisconsin film film office in Wisconsin, but again

Trump shooting his mouth off or his social media stuff off about trying to put 100% tariffs on this as if as if the poor people out in the Hollywood had just got through the big fires out there as if they don't have enough going on to hurt the industry and And now you got this kind of yahoo mess going on but again, it's gonna be very interesting to see whether Governor Evers trying now to bring back the film office 100% agree with that by the way

Whether the Republicans in the legislature are are gonna go along with it.

We shall see We're gonna take a quick break here a little on news whether it's sports up to eight up if I can yes I get paid to talk for living an update for you Pam Yankee Gonna check in from Midwest Farm report the fabulous farm babe with an agricultural update that we'll come back and do a little What's worse for you?

on this Monday, Cinco de Mayo, 855-752-4842.

Come on back as the all ball show is sam after this.

Keep it coming Sam!

Welcome back to the Town of

Homeballs Show!

Civic Media radio network is 35 minutes past the hour of three o'clock that is from the Blues Brothers movies.

How about that a little Dan Hacker for you and John Belushi

when I was a kid Blues Brothers was one of my most favorite really.

Oh, yeah, I love that.

Oh

my

gosh, Sam Davidson in for a zomers.

They would appreciate him Thanks for dialing that up so quick.

I wanted to play that because we're talking about movies that were shot in Wisconsin

That's one of the many reasons I love doing this show are great listeners Greg Listening on the UK and Genesee depot says the Blues brothers when they shot in Milwaukee and the freeway wasn't done yet The two Nazis that were chasing them in the movie ran off the top of the freeway I got a laugh every time I see that scene.

I did not know that was shot Milwaukee.

That's fantastic But it is just a classic movie, right?

Oh, yeah.

Well, all the musicians that had gotten that movie, too.

Right.

Yeah.