Common Sense Ain’t So Common (Hour 2)

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Common Sense Ain’t So Common (Hour 2)

The Todd Allbaugh Show · Fri Apr 4, 2025

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It is six past the hour of one o'clock.

Welcome into hour number two of the big program on Friday, TGIF, April 4th, 2025.

Glad to have you along.

Again, many thanks to Kelly Call and Sean Hannish from The Great New Film.

Just a bit outside the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers.

Which will be shown tonight as a part of the Wisconsin Film Festival, which incidentally is going on from now through April 10th around the Madison area.

So wonderful, wonderful films.

Of course, we talked to John Roach earlier in the week and his great new film being a part of this as well on Sunday.

And then Sean and Kelly, their film as well being held tonight in Madison.

Rush tickets are available for.

for just a bit outside the store, the 82 brewers tonight.

That basically means from our understanding that they're going to wait and see if there are seats that nobody showed up and then sell those.

So it's kind of, you have to be there in person.

So if you're in the Madison area and you don't mind that, come on down tonight.

Be there by 5 30 tonight at music hall on campus.

Otherwise you can wait until a week from tonight.

and see just a bit outside on the streaming service Roku for free.

How about that?

That doesn't happen very often, Zomers.

No, it does not.

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So

just keep an eye, make sure you got the Roku channel ready.

My TV is a Roku TV.

It

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hasn't built

in, so I don't have to worry about

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that.

You're all set to go.

Otherwise, you

can download it ahead of time, get it ready to go.

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Ready, set, go there.

That's fantastic.

And again, the Wisconsin Film Festival has a lot of great...

independent films at it.

You should check it out.

If you haven't got anything else to do this weekend or make time to actually do something this weekend, it's wifilmfest.org wifilmfest.org.

And you can find the entire list of films coming up this weekend and into next week.

You might run into Todd, you might run into me, you might run into Pete Schwabba, host of Nightlight.

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Yes,

Pete

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Schwabba.

All kinds of great people.

And Sean and Kelly, I forgot to bring this up.

I think they're going to do a question and answer session tonight.

That is my understanding.

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After the film as well.

All right, sounds good.

Eight minutes past the hour of one o'clock.

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That seems like a goofy word, Summers.

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No, just seed.

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Jeff Perry

on Facebook.

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Yes, Jeff.

Jeff, let me, please, please.

Jeff, this is fantastic.

Our ongoing contributor friend, Jeff Perry asks, Todd, is this a local contest?

Thank you, Jeff Perry.

So very much for asking because as it turns out, the lawyers on the 12th floor just sent down a text and they tell us now that this indeed is a statewide contest.

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That's the best part.

This is the best part text the word seed s e e d As a gay man Todd will not be spreading his seed s e e d I Just think it's a goofy word.

Yeah, it's the last one.

I think it's rigged.

I think it's right in the last one for us

Here's that and here's the deal on this that in each one of these these contests There's been a little internal contest and I don't start it.

You understand that this is this is other people But Jane McNair and Greg Baca their show that our air which precedes us every day For now Anyway, they're so they challenged me and they that and we somehow have have come out on top

by the smallest of margins in each of these races.

But I hear now we're down big.

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That's what I've heard as well.

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Yeah.

And so it's not looking good for Zomers tonight.

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Yes.

And and I'm not sure what this means, but but Jane McNair said to telegram I didn't I didn't know they do do that anymore Jane said to telegram to me and it said you may want to practice the phrase quote This is not your baby on quote Morey morey morey.

Yes, morey Bobic Yeah, because the afternoon shows that's the kind of stuff they do they they they have paternal tests of DNA

And then they have a guy and a gal and she says it's just baby and the guy goes it ain't my baby I don't I don't even know you and oh don't don't you tell me that and then and then Maury does a DNA test and they're sitting right there and he opens up very dramatically and he looks at me says This is Not your baby.

You are not the father.

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Yes, you are not father or you are the father So anyway, I'm practicing because it doesn't look good

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So text the word seed, S-E-E-D right now to the Civic Media app.

Seed, S-E-E-D, somebody this hour is going to win an overnight stay at the Chula Vista Resort.

Mark from Prairie to Sack texts in a pun, he said.

Brad Schimmel conceded

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to Susan

Crawford.

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I like that.

I like that.

Conceded.

But the word is not conceded.

The word is seed.

Just seed.

S E E D. All right.

This is why do I just why do I feel this is not going well?

I don't know.

Maybe it's because the other CBS mug broke

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at least you've got a new one The new one is fine.

It's I'm I'm very being very very careful with it.

Um, all right, well Have some texts I will not read on the air, but they're very humorous on the last side.

I do appreciate them.

Uh, what else we got here Zabers?

Uh, come in a little bit later.

We're gonna have a board game with a week That'll be exciting.

We haven't done well.

We do it last week.

We didn't last week.

I mean, there's there's been a lot going on

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There's been a lot going on.

I want to give a shout out, a thank you to again, to the Chancellor Mark Mone at UW Milwaukee for having us down there yesterday.

That was a lot of fun.

That was a great show.

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Yeah, it really was.

And a special thanks to Carrie Anderson Pink, who put that entire show together.

She was the one that got all lined up all the guests who got us the venue.

Some

great

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students, really some great students learned a lot about them and about the programs at UW Milwaukee.

So.

Thank you to them for hosting us yesterday.

Really, really, really a great show.

I want to do more of those as we travel around the state later on and finding out what makes Wisconsin great around the state of Wisconsin.

We also, as we said, what's worse for you.

We'll probably wait and come back with that.

We'll go look at a little news this this hour as well.

Little thoughts on the new tariffs, by the way, Kate Ardolf.

wrote to the New Republic quote the Trump administration isn't poised review manufacturing so much as Reward whatever companies executives happen to cozy up to and fund Republican campaigns on quote Have you seen this Trump put on these new tariffs?

35% some places other am I and now China's retaliating by the way the stock market Not doing well in the toilet not not doing not doing well as it turns out

dropping massively every day.

Yeah

So

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so so far the tariffs are are not doing great the budget lab predicts an average loss of three thousand eight hundred dollars in purchasing power That's in twenty twenty four dollars per household per household this year So think about that per household on average The average household have thirty eight hundred dollars less in purchasing power That means thirty eight hundred dollars less per household to go to the local florist the local bakery

the local bar, local grocery store, local auto mechanic.

Groceries?

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What an old fashioned

word.

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As Trump likes to say.

It means multiple different things in a bag together.

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That's what he said.

Yeah, I know, exactly.

Welcome back.

Talk a little bit about these tariffs in the news.

And also have a what's worse for you.

Text the word seed, S-E-E-D, right now to the Civic Media app hotline.

in our break into spring text to interview.

Come on back on The Allmonger.

You can't live together, you can't live alone.

Considering the weather, oh my, how you've grown.

From the men in the factories to the wild kangaroos.

Like those birds of a feather gathering together and feeling exactly like you.

They got mesmerized.

I was

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waiting to hear what the line was going to be that brought it all together.

There it was.

It was a while.

It took a while.

Who sings that?

John Prine.

That's Common Sense by John Prine.

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Yes.

The great late John Prine.

Absolutely.

Wonderful, wonderful artist.

Uh, a shame it didn't recognize his voice.

For goodness sake.

Uh, well, welcome, welcome back.

We're talking a lot of common sense and after the bottom of the hour, we're going to talk a little bit about, uh, Trump world and these tariffs.

The opposite, perhaps

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the opposite of, you know, making the sense kind of crazy.

I mean, it seems it is self-destructive and now the markets are not doing well.

Price is going up and all those, you know, Todd was saying this months ago.

Stock up on staples.

Toilet paper, this sort of thing.

Rice, beans.

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Right, yeah.

And now Mark, Mark Cuban is saying the same thing.

So, I mean, don't go out in the whore.

Don't make them rush like, like the pandemic.

COVID.

But it's a good time to make sure you have some.

Yes,

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because prices are going to go up.

That's indisputable right

now.

Buy toilet paper from Costco if you have a Costco membership.

Don't again, don't fill your house with it,

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but buy your next big block.

Make sure you got a few months lined up because prices are going to go up through maybe shortages as we go about this.

So we shall see.

We'll talk more about that at the bottom of the hour right now.

23 minutes past the hour, one o'clock time once again for what's worse.

Let's

go.

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will begin to play once worse.

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So first of all the text to win word this hour seed s e e d Seed as in Chet's feed and seed It's a great place in Michelin Center Chet's feed and seed, but the word is seed s e e d And if you text that in somebody this hour is gonna win a great overnight stay in the Chula Vista

Resort up a Wisconsin Dells.

It's a good Simpsons joke about that.

I believe it's Chuck's feed and see

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really

which um, you know, okay, yeah

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Perry's really enjoying this show by the way this particular show.

I'm sure he is

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so am I anyway, so now it's time to play what's worse timely timely indeed Mike Lucas says because

What we're in a great lack of in this world is common sense and particularly election or after election night, you know a lot of expert opinion quote-unquote Round the dial.

Well, this is all about Elon Musk.

This was all about whatever whatever And we know he had Trigby Olsen on he's an expert I guess as well

and his expert opinion was don't listen to the expert opinion To summarize it.

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Yeah, that's very well said.

So here now what's today is what's worse what's worse?

common sense or Expert opinion what's worse common sense or Expert opinion 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 Give us a call and give us a call a holler a collar 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 or text us as well

So now you got two things to text you can text in seed S E E T and be eligible for an overnight stay at Chula Vista and you can also text in and Tell us what's worse?

common sense or expert opinion 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 and Summers this one I mean

I don't know.

I think it's self-explanatory, but what's your take on

it?

I think that most people will probably agree that expert opinion is worse because the farther up these corporate minds and consultants get from reality that it's like if at corporations like big ones, you know retail stores or something sometimes they'll take certain products off the shelves that don't make sense to get rid of or they'll make decisions about

How often you're working and how long, uh, that just don't make sense if you're actually in the

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store.

And to your, to your point, oftentimes people who claim that they're experts really aren't.

And name only, right?

In name only, eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two.

By the way, this just in a clarification on the Wisconsin film festival tonight, Sean Hannes just texted me, our great guest, one of our great guests of last hour.

And Sean said, the rush tickets.

are available tonight for just a bit outside, but that means people who show up at the theater will be offered available seats on a first come, first serve basis.

So it's exactly what we thought.

People who don't show up like 10 minutes before the screening.

Right.

Those seats will be given to people who are waiting.

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Well, again, if you just buy a ticket, you don't get it for free.

Right, right.

So again, don't drive two or three hours for it.

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But if you're in

Madison, it's

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one

shot.

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If you want to come to Madison.

So if there are empty seats tonight at the music hall at UW campus at 530, there will be a rush tickets sold at that time on a first come, first serve basis.

All right, let's go to the phone lines.

855-752-4842.

Ollie, up in the Northwoods.

Ollie, common sense or expert opinion.

What's worse?

Well, I think.

What's worse is expert opinion because most people who have an opinion think they're experts about everything Yeah, I

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think I'm right there with you Ali.

I appreciate the call.

Thank you so very much Yeah, Jeff Perry watch on Facebook says my expert opinion opinions are worse

We also have a few texts from let's see Nancy in Madison Kimberly

And in Chippewa Falls, all saying, yep, expert opinions are worse.

Yeah.

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And in some people, like a doctor, for instance, now that's a real expert.

That's different.

That's different.

Expert opinions are important.

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All right, text the word seed.

S-E-E-D right now.

S-E-E-D right now.

Otherwise, we'll see you alongside Judge Judy later this month.

Come on back.

It's the time of our show on the Civic Media Ready number.

Wherever it may lead and having fun doing it.

Welcome back to the time of all show on the civic media running network.

Thirty four minutes now past the hour of one o'clock on Tuesday.

Tuesday.

Why did I say Tuesday?

It is not Tuesday.

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I was going to say TGIF.

We'll start with T, I guess.

Friday, April 4th, 2025.

Glad to have you along with Zomers on the board doing we're right in the middle of a couple of things.

First, your opportunity to win.

An overnight stay at Chula Vista Resort in Wisconsin Dells.

Somebody this hour is going to win.

Might as well be you.

All you have to do is download the Civic Media app, open it up, go over to the little icon, or first of all, choose a station, order the first 11, open it up, lower right hand corner, hit text, and then text the word seed.

The magic word this hour, believe it or not, is seed.

S E E D seed All right, and if you're randomly chosen You're on your way to the chula vista resort.

It was constant tells Also asking you what's worse?

common sense or expert opinion common sense or expert opinion.

What's worse?

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2, 8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

Zomers, you said you had a couple of texts on this.

Yes, a few people texted in over the break, and we finally have some dissenting opinions, which is good.

You've got to hear the other side.

Megan in Sun Prairie asks, does either option actually exist?

Common sense is getting harder to find but expert opinions aren't usually from experts.

Just Google addicts

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That's true, I'll go along with that Who else with Jack and Merrimack says common sense is the worst it flies in the face of facts way too often The only people who really study something are the ones are only the ones or the first ones.

I'll choose priest

Who really study something are the only are often the oh

Okay, well now I screwed it up too.

Often only the people who really study something are the first ones who really know about a subject.

Perhaps the best example is the decades that common sense denied global warming.

Those of us who studied it knew it was reality since the 80s.

Thank you.

Thank you.

I appreciate

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it.

By the way, Jack, I was not saying Judas Priest to your text.

It was just that the thing that we usually have the text on isn't working.

So I got to do my phone and then it skipped up.

By the way, Jack in Merrimack, the Merrimack Ferry is now open for the season.

That's fantastic.

Speaking of things that are free, hop on up to Merrimack or catch it on the Dane County side and you can go back and forth across the Wisconsin River now on the Merrimack Ferry.

How about that?

855-752-4842, 855-752-4842, asking today's what's worse, common sense or expert opinion.

For me it comes down to who's giving the expert opinion But we'll get to that in a second eight five five seven five two four eight four two Tom calling from WM DX in Madison Tom Common sense or expert opinion.

Well, he actually had some other news he wanted to

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share.

Oh, all right, very good Tom

Yeah, yeah, I think it needs to be a combination of both

all right the idea of not listening oh okay yeah you're done i would say okay that's that's

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fantastic no

it's fine yeah i think it needs a combination i think it needs a combination of both you have to have enough common sense to listen to an expert opinion that's for sure and uh

And the reason I called is I hope everybody's out on the hands-off protests that will be taking part all over the country.

I think there's 1,100 protests going on.

And in Madison, the one starts at noon and definitely be there and heading over to Monaco Brewing Company for the after party afterwards.

And it's super important that people get out on the streets, especially now as an artist and a performer.

i just learned that all the humanities counsel in america i think fifty eight of them are all getting defunded at the same time i think as of april second uh... and they're a little town that really really survive on those when it comes to uh... uh... you know the fourth of july celebration the civil war re-enactment uh... the community colleges theater program or the you know the elementary school artisan residents all of those

All of those entities depend on that money, and they're just killing it all across the board with no rationale and no accountability.

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Thanks for the information, Tom.

I really appreciate it.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

Gene, it'll clear.

Gene, you're calling in for what's worse or something else?

Something else.

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All right.

What do you got, Gene?

Very important.

Today, the Senate is convening, and Republicans are pushing for Trump's

build a goal through and it's very important that people call in and have their voice heard.

You know, you know what really thickens me is I remember Trump saying how much money he made during like recessions, you know, and when bad things happen to our country, how much money he made.

People got to be aware because we don't want our farmers to lose their land.

We want them to keep it and we need to have our voices heard.

I never seen anything like this, Todd, and you and I have been watching for years and years, but people's voice matters, so keep up the uproar.

Thank you very much, and have a good weekend, and you guys do great work.

Todd Allbaugh

Bye.

Thanks, Gene.

Appreciate you.

Have a great weekend up there in the beautiful Chippewa Valley.

I heard Pat Critello's having a bake sale this weekend.

Is that true?

I don't know, but if he is, I want to go.

Todd Allbaugh

Which is different than Pat Critello getting baked.

That's two very different things.

Very different.

Both may involve the pontoon.

Yes.

That's what we're going to do a show this year for the pontoon.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

I heard it's very nice in the afternoon.

A Whistler at WRCE in Richland Center.

Whistler, I think you're calling in for what's worse.

That's fantastic.

Common sense or expert opinion.

What's worse?

I

think someone earlier said...

You gotta have a balance.

Yeah.

But common sense makes the most sense.

But then you invite other input.

Todd Allbaugh

Yeah.

Agreed.

Absolutely agree.

Thank you so much.

I appreciate you, Whistler.

855-752-4842.

855-752-4842.

Let's keep it in Madison.

WMDX in Madison.

Dick in Madison.

What's worse, common sense or expert opinion.

the stock market today as opposed to yesterday.

No, I think expert opinion.

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That was good.

I like that.

Yeah, it's down.

It's only down 2,000 points.

Todd Allbaugh

Oh, only 2,000.

All right.

Very good.

Yeah,

well.

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Did you hear Dick by the end of the year, a roll of toilet paper, 25 bucks.

That's cheap.

Right?

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Yeah.

I

have to price.

No, expert opinion because many times it comes from very opinionated people.

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Yeah, not there.

That's great.

I like that a lot expert opinions that come from opinionated people That's a great take on that dick very well done eight five five seven five two four eight four two eight five five seven five two four eight four two if you want to weigh in my take on this Expert opinions generally are worse because common and I mean I said some of the caller's points.

I get it like it depends on

what your take is on common sense but i i think of my i think of my grandparents a lot things just life experience which gives you common sense like i don't know like don't pee against the wind that's that's common sense or don't pee against a flat rock that's common sense uh make hay while the sun shines in other words get your work done while you're able to that's common sense right summers

yeah and i i think generally just don't pee

Outside of toilets when I

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don't agree with that.

I mean, I was the walkers of the woods.

You're doing be careful.

You're picking up rock

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Yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm not going all the way back to the house about the field picking up rock I mean, you just drink some water and you go over to a to a bush or something.

I don't know eight five seven five two four eight four two Mona listening in Madison MDX Mona common sense or expert opinion.

What's worse?

opinion with no common sense.

That's great!

That

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is the best answer so far in my opinion, Mona.

Well done.

I agree.

Well done.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

Let's go up to Appleton.

Cindy in Appleton.

Cindy, common sense or expert opinion.

What's worse?

Well, it depends on who it's coming from I think because an expiry being from like a scientist or somebody like that is good But common sense

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from a trumpet.

Is there such a thing?

Well, I don't want to give birth.

I guess it depends on what they're talking about I mean somebody might have voted for Trump but have good common sense when it comes to I don't know growing radishes

So I think it depends what their opinion is.

Well, I appreciate it Cindy I have a great weekend up there at Appleton 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 going to the old hometown Richland Center WRCE Bev in Richland Center Bev common sense or expert opinion.

What's worse?

Common sense is worse, but you know what's interesting is Tom, Tom Nichols has a book called the death of expertise.

Oh,

and I think that's the problem that

If you have real expertise, you need it.

But we've got a whole lot of people who think they're experts when they're not.

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But common sense is worth it.

I like that.

I like that a lot.

All right.

Thank you.

Great take, Bev.

Appreciate it.

855-752-4842.

855-752-4842.

Just a couple more calls here and then move on to a little news of the day.

Speaking of a common sense take, how many of you guys watch Therese Bueller's Day Off?

Back of the day.

As it turns out,

People say, you know, well, don't watch movies.

Don't watch television.

It's gonna rot your brain I'm gonna prove to you that watching movies will make you smarter in just a minute eight five five seven five two four eight four two David in Milwaukee listening on WA UK David I have a question for you first of all Where are you at?

Milwaukee and a do you listen to us actually on a radio or be on the app?

I

Listen to on the radio

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All right, I am in Brookfield right now in Brookfield.

All right.

That's that's fantastic I appreciate the info David.

All right, David a common sense or expert opinion.

What's worse?

I Think the common sense factor is is worse Because experts have went to school.

They've studied these things but the real reason I wanted to to Express myself was the fact that no one is talking about

Trump is talking about putting America first, but yet he has not pulled any of his businesses or his daughter's businesses out of China.

Todd Allbaugh

Should

they be the first to lead by

Todd Allbaugh

example?

I think that's a great point, David.

Years ago, Letterman had Trump on and had his Trump ties and everything, and Trump was going on about America first, and Letterman says, let's see here, here's a Trump type made in China.

Made in China.

So, uh, yeah, great point.

Appreciate it, David.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

Eric in Madison on MDX, Eric.

Common sense or expert opinion, what's worse?

Well, I think it's situational, but if we've learned anything, it's that sense isn't common.

Todd Allbaugh

That there, that's a great way to end it right there.

Sense is not common.

I appreciate that, Eric.

That's a great call.

Appreciate it.

Oh, there you go, Zomers.

So lots of great takes on that one.

Little thoughtfulness.

That's fantastic.

Do we have time to play the Ferris Bueller thing?

We're going to do that when we come back.

Oh, we can do that.

Todd Allbaugh

All right.

So here now, here, the Ferris Bueller movie, day off movie, their take on tariffs.

In 1930, the Republican-controlled House of Representatives, in an effort to alleviate the effect of the... Anyone?

Anyone?

Great depression.

Past the... Anyone?

Anyone?

A tariff bill, the Holly Smoot Tariff Act, which anyone raised or lowered raised tariffs in an effort to collect more revenue for the federal government.

Did it work?

Anyone?

Anyone know the effects?

It did not work and the United States sank deeper into the Great Depression.

Todd Allbaugh

It did not work.

That is real.

That is not AI.

That is not, that is actual, that scene from Ferris Bueller's Day Off.

That is the actual scene of Ben Stein the actor playing the teacher there talking about the smooth Holly act Which is today?

Applicable to exactly what tropas do with these tariffs.

Yeah a hundred years ago that happened a hundred years before that America tried to do tariffs and it never works.

Yeah,

Todd Allbaugh

but I thought that was fantastic though That's the actual scene or a couple of lines from Ferris Bueller's day off So when people say well, you don't learn anything from movies tell them that

Right there, you can learn about tariffs and the Smoot Holly Act.

Alright, we're gonna come back and Zomers is gonna do a board game of the week for us here and round things out on a Friday.

Glad you joined us here on the Civic Media Radio Network.

And it's the Todd Able show.

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From two until four now, I oftentimes don't go to the meeting summers, but I'm trusting my friend Jane McNair because she's always timely and accurate So I heard her say on her show today that today our friend Tom Salvia

And the Dom Salvia show at four o'clock.

It is his last show here on the network.

And this is apparently what he just has different opportunities.

And he is going to take those.

And so he and Jess is a great producer.

This is their last show.

And for my money, two finer people who work hard, you cannot find.

And I wish them all the best.

And I thank them for everything they've done for this network and wish them well

because they're

Todd Allbaugh

wonderful people.

I very much appreciate

Having had the opportunity to work with them for as long as I have and get to know them because they're great people and they work hard like you said

Todd Allbaugh

Yeah, they absolutely do and brought a lot to this network.

So congratulations to Dom and Jess on on their fine program to an end today from four until six for their last show.

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Anyway, it's coming up close to two o'clock.

Let's do this quick.

It's another edition of Board Game of the Week.

Let's go.

Back to another edition of Board Game of the Week.

This time, Todd, do you like a nice distilled spirit?

Todd Allbaugh

A nice distilled spirit?

Well, yes.

Yes, Aaron Zombers.

I

Todd Allbaugh

absolutely do.

Well, if you like a high quality liquor, you may enjoy this game called Distilled.

Distilled.

Now, here we're talking, Zombers.

So each player.

It takes on the role of an heir to a distillery and you can make, you might end up creating whiskey, rum, gin, tequila, all kinds of different alcohol from around the world.

You get a distillery and now it is upon you to manage the products that go into creating this liquor.

So you gotta get your suppliers in order, you gotta figure out how long you're aging everything and try to make the most profitable distillery by the end of the game.

Is there actual liquor involved?

You have to provide your own.

It's a BYOB situation.

But it's almost like cards or pieces or what?

A lot of cards, a lot of pieces.

It's a relatively complicated board game because, you know, you're managing a distillery.

So it's one...

Todd Allbaugh

Sounds like a night at a dance club.

Lots

of cards, lots of pieces.

Anyway, lots of pieces.

So it'd be a good one to enjoy some sipping liquor.

I would not say this is a game where you want to get trashed and then try to learn how to play it.

But, you know, if you're enjoying a nice bourbon or something, this could be a lot of fun.

Todd Allbaugh

Now our friend Charles Franklin from the Marquette Law School poll.

That's

what I thought as

Todd Allbaugh

well.

He is a person who is a connoisseur of fine liquors.

I mean, he's not a guy who's going to just get drunk.

He's the kind of guy who really knows the intricate details of the processing and savers.

Every sip of these it might have the smallest little part in the glass and then just savor it

Yes, the two people I thought of when I first discovered this game were Charles Franklin and then know Michael somebody in the local magic the gathering scene in Madison who hosts a lot of game nights at his house and is a lover of

bourbon and cigars and things like that.

I feel like he would love this game.

He probably already owns it.

Have

Todd Allbaugh

you

played this game before?

Not yet.

I just found out about it earlier this week and I really want to play it.

It looks a lot of fun.

So what's

Todd Allbaugh

the, what's, uh, do we know yet what the, how do you quote unquote win distilled?

I mean, you, it's, you do you have to manage your resources and make the best distillery?

Like it's, it's.

So it

Todd Allbaugh

all comes down to the dollar sign is Jack.

It all comes down to the dollar sign.

Todd Allbaugh

So the, the, the person at the end, a little bit, maybe like monopoly.

a boozy verse a boozy monopoly.

Is that what you're telling me, Zomers?

A little

bit, I would say.

I like that.

It's one to five players.

And I like the trend that a lot of games are starting to include up to five players.

It's just you end up with these odd sized groups often, or at least I do.

It's nice to be able to include everybody.

Probably not the same group that you play Candyland with.

Definitely not.

Todd Allbaugh

It's an adult board game.

It is.

No one's disrupting, mind you, but it is an adult board game.

Not that kind of adult board game.

That's an entirely different kind of, you know, Adam and Eve type of deal.

That's not what we're not.

That's not what we're talking about.

We're talking about distilled.

How much is it?

Summers?

It is a bit of a pricey one.

It is $80, but it's a big dollar.

It's a hefty game.

There's there's a lot of pieces.

I

Todd Allbaugh

hope it is.

Is it like a wood board or something?

Is it coming to barrel?

No,

it doesn't come in a

Todd Allbaugh

barrel.

Would that be cool though?

What if the board.

The board for the board game was built into the top of a former barrel that you distilled whiskey in.

That would be very

cool.

They do have some like premium pieces if you want to pay even more and get like metal pieces and stuff like that.

Todd Allbaugh

Yeah.

80 bucks for distilled.

But it's probably one of those games you're going to you're going to buy and really take the afternoon to play.

Oh yeah.

And play it multiple times.

Todd Allbaugh

All right.

Well the game is distilled.

It's 80 bucks.

There you go.

There's your board game.

of the week that was good that was that was uh i mean all your games are uh well most of them are unique i haven't heard of them before but that one in particular i just find very interesting because i i mean i do mom doesn't like when i talk about it she goes people are gonna think that you're really a drunk robert in mcfarland

i'm not i just

Todd Allbaugh

i just joke around about it but i i like charles franklin i enjoy a beverage and savor it what are you gonna say

robert in mcfarland texted in

He found the game cheaper actually apparently on Amazon at $63 right now.

Todd Allbaugh

Oh sick

can't beat it with a stick.

All right, great show today.

Many thanks to Kelly Call and Sean Hannish, their film, just a bit outside the story of the 82 Brewers, available on Roku for free, starting a week from today.

And also thank you to Aaron Zombers as well and everybody who played along.

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