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Good afternoon, everybody.
I'm Tom Alvall, along with our producer and engineer, Mr. Aaron Zommers, on the board.
It is six past the hour of one o'clock.
Welcome into hour number two of the big program.
It is Wednesday, March 26th, 2025.
It is pump day.
Indeed, also a great day to be Wisconsinite here.
We come to you for the World Headquarters in downtown Madison, Wisconsin.
Sunny skies on tap, Mr. Zommers.
A beautiful day, warmer weather.
As we get through a little rainy, but that's fine.
We could use the rain.
Lots of the area still under lots of the state still under a dry, what do they call it, dry weather, advise
It's like an extreme dryness or whatever it is.
Something like that.
This time of the year, I'm sometimes I get extremely dry and that's why I have to moisturize.
So the earth needs to the earth has to moisturize as well.
Right.
It's Good for the Earth.
The Good Earth by Pearl S. Buck.
Wang Lung.
Pearl S. Buck, one of the great American authors of all time.
The Good Earth.
It's easy reading, it's great reading.
I mean, right now there's a show, a really, really hot show right now streaming White Lotus.
Have you heard of that?
I have heard of that.
With Arnold Schwarzenegger and Maria Shriver's, Patrick Schwarzenegger is in it.
And there is a literally an incestuous storyline in it.
And it's gotten a lot of play everywhere.
This was, this Perles book was way ahead of White Lotus.
There's conniving, there's family, there's lust, and there's land.
The Good Earth by Pearl S. Book.
See, that's the problem with America today.
Not enough people are reading Pearl S. Book on the Good Earth.
I hope.
These days you never know.
DEI.
Right?
Exactly.
All right, coming up this hour, I'll let her out and talk a little sports for you.
Wisconsin, the women's side basketball hired a new coach yesterday, Robin Pidgetton.
Pington.
How are you saying it?
Not an impressive hire.
She has like two or three consecutive losing seasons at Missouri.
And yet Chris McIntosh, the athletic director at Wisconsin said, yeah, come coach us.
I just don't get it.
either commit to the women's basketball program, or if you're not going to invest in it and respect it and give it the support it deserves, then move on, right?
That's my take on that.
So we'll talk about that a little bit later.
What's worse this hour, having to do with memory, remembering things.
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Maybe you're sitting on the John.
I mean, who amongst us had to say, you know, gotta sit down for a while.
Let's listen to the radio.
People have said, Todd makes the crap flow.
Here's the point.
You can win a hundred bucks every day for the next two weeks at this time on this show.
We are going to give away an hourly prize.
It might be a hundred bucks.
It might be a prize package extravaganza to the Chula Vista Golf Resort or the, not just golf, but Chula Vista Resort in Wisconsin Dells.
They have golf, they have indoor water parks.
It's a great place.
Zamas and I have been there.
Or it might be Milwaukee Brewer club level seats.
Beautiful, beautiful plush seats and a beautiful part of Ampham Field.
And then everybody who enters,
is eligible to win the grand prize of a Verlo mattress set, a Verlo mattress set.
And who doesn't, and I got very excited, Zomers, because it's not just the mattress you understand.
There's more to it than that.
And for a moment, I thought part of the prize was a bamboo steamer.
They used to sell those like infomercials the bamboo steamer It was like it was like a steamer basket made of bamboo that you just set over a pot of water and you cook stuff via steam But he made a big deal about it for a while and infomercials the bamboo No, it's not bamboo steamer, but you'll get a queen set of bamboo sheets How about that interesting let's have the sheets
My grandpa used to tell us this.
He'd say, say that 10 times fast.
He used to say, let me see if I can say this.
I sit upon, what is it?
I sit upon a slitted sheet, a slitted sheet upon I sit or something like that.
And he'd say, do that 10 times fast.
Without swearing.
And see, I did it.
I did it.
I did it without swearing.
Yeah.
But yeah, if you get a mattress set, you get bamboo sheets, it's fantastic.
That's the grand prize and so much more.
So that's why everybody gets to enter in to win.
Here's how you, and this hour, somebody's going away with $100 and you're not competing against Jane McNair, who does this at 11 o'clock in the morning or other people on this network.
It's only for this hour.
Somebody the people that enter this hour are going to win a hundred somebody's gonna win one person a hundred bucks Here's how you do it you enter via the civic media app if you don't have it go to your app store type in civic CIVIC media is Takes less than a minute to download it is free Open it up The first eleven stations are the news talk sports stations that this program is on choose the one closest to you or just pick one at random
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Because Zomers and I have no part of who wins.
They don't trust us.
Oh, speaking not trust in us.
The attorneys remind me now this is a statewide contest.
Yes.
Lots on the line.
A statewide contest and they don't trust so they have a computer do it.
The computer chooses the winner at random.
and the computer only recognizes those entries that are spelled correctly.
You understand?
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Now, how would that be, Zombers?
I mean, start spring off with a new mattress from Verlo.
You're into the home, this listener viewing audience type and text in right now the word lawn, L-A-W-N.
Somebody will win a hundred dollars this hour.
More chances to win all day long on different civic media shows.
Hold your hats and hallelujahs, mama's gonna do it to you.
You know what musical that's from?
Unlike the text-to-win contest, there are no prizes with this other than your chance to have your voice heard across statewide radio timely, timely indeed.
Look, I've gotten to the age where sometimes you forget things.
We all forget things, right, Summers?
And people are out and about more than nice weather.
You got your car and it's busier.
I don't care whether you're at a sporting event or the grocery store, the shopping mall.
Usually it happens to me.
on like garages with multiple floors, like a public parking garage, right?
So here's the what's worse for today, what's worse?
Not remembering names or not remembering where you parked.
Not remembering names or not remembering where you parked.
855-752-4842, 855-752-4842.
You could also text us on the Civic Media app along with that entry for the text to win contest.
The word for the contest is Lawn, L-A-W-N.
Text it now, you can also text what's worse.
Not remembering names or not remembering where you parked.
And so the cars are all just kind of jimmy jammed in there any which way, but loose.
What's worse, not remembering names or not remembering where you parked.
A-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.
Let's go to the phone lines.
Whistler in Richland Center, listening on W-R-C-E.
Whistler not remembering names or not remembering where you parked.
What's worse?
Name.
Right?
I've done, thank you, Isla, appreciate it.
I've done the exact same thing because you think, well, I know their name, right?
And then you call them and it's the wrong name and you just want to die.
What's worse, not remembering names or not remembering where you parked?
855-752-4842.
Come on back for the All Ball Show right here on the Pacific Media Radio Network.
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Say my name, say my name
That's great.
You dug that up.
I appreciate it.
We're playing what's worse right now.
And also, we're playing two things at once.
We're two-timing you.
So if you want to get it on the action on a hundred bucks go to the civic media app and text the word lawn L a w n as in Nancy lawn You have a beautiful green lawn in the summer L a w n text it right now to the civic media app somebody from amongst the texts this hour
is going to win a hundred bucks cash and everybody will be eligible for the grand prize of a Verlo mattress at the end of the contest.
We're also playing What's Worse.
Lots of phone calls.
Stay on the line.
We're going to take you in order that they're received.
What's Worse.
Not remembering names or not remembering where you parked.
855-752-4842-855-752-4842.
Brian, listening on WAUK, Milwaukee, not remembering names or not remembering where you parked.
Brian, what's worse?
I'm gonna have to go with names.
I worked in a pharmacy for over 15 years.
And when a patient comes up to the counter, you know, oh, hi, Mrs. Sohan.
So how are you?
And, uh, unfortunately, there's been a few times where I'm just so-and-so, uh, and I completely forget their name.
I know.
I mean, you recognize the face.
Yes.
You know you know them.
And it happens all the
also have to say not remembering the name because it can be much more socially awkward, especially when you get some wise guy or wise person that seems to sense
you know, they seem to sense or know that you forgot their name.
So they repeatedly call you by your name.
You know, sort of like to rub it in, you know, they keep, you know, calling you by your name and they kind of pounce on the fact, hey, this guy forgot my name.
It's like a power struggle.
They just want to kind of rub it in that you forgot it.
Um, you know, regarding the car, fortunately these days, you know, you do have your key five and you can hit the lock or the alarm is right.
Even though my nephew and I had a brewer game down there.
Um, there's parking lots, even though they're all named or whatnot.
Sometimes it could be a little hard to find your car.
If you're leaving.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And why is it you can remember a conversation you had with that person, the most verbatim, which can't remember their name?
neurologist.
Yeah.
And I got a sign right here.
I'm looking at my garage right by my toolbox.
I came.
I saw, I forgot what I came for.
Well, if you don't remember where you parked, you can always either pop your teeth so your trunk comes open or
or beep your car.
But, uh, I think we have to go to Senator Ron Johnson as far as how embarrassing it is to not remember a name.
I heard that clip on J. Matt Nier's show this morning where he couldn't remember a Hegcess name, right?
Yup, that was it.
That's hilarious.
Thanks, Holly.
I appreciate it.
855-752-4842.
Got a beautiful Sauk County listening on WRCE.
Chris and Sauk County.
Chris, not remembering names.
Not remembering where you parked.
What's worse?
Normally, I would say names, but this time I have to go with where you parked.
I recently lost my car in the French Quarter on Super Bowl Sunday, and I was a half a mile away from where it was.
No drive around some locals drove me around with my key fob until we found it It was very traumatizing.
No down Wow, so it was my own personal car
fortunately, I parked near a Tesla truck and that's how we found it
I was never so glad to see a Tesla truck.
I have lost my car in downtown Hayward and had to walk back and forth on the street after dark looking for it.
I know that's parked on the side street.
The only worse than that would be involved in an organization where I'd use the wrong app when I sent communications out.
I can bluff getting past the name, but I can't find my car.
That's black and white.
And by the way, I think he said that he said that not, he said I could fake not remembering a name, but you know, if you can't remember where you're, he says, yeah, you can just call somebody buddy or something else to cover it up.
LA, I agree with you, but the worst is when somebody who you can't remember your name comes up to you and you're with someone else.
And now I'm in the awkward position and they're looking at you like, or are you going to introduce me to whoever you're with?
And so what do you do then?
This is my sister or this is my friend or this is my significant other and this is What you do?
This is the big guy, you know, you know the big guy.
How you do a big guy?
You can't fake that So zombers well, we can come back get your thoughts because we're all more kind of up against the clock here Well, we'll come back.
We'll we'll find out what zombers nice think about
not remembering names or no not remembering where you parked what's worse also don't forget you can text right now the word lawn LAWN as in Nancy to be eligible in a hundred bucks the word lawn on the Civic Media app is the all ball show come on back after this on the Civic Media Network
Truth, wherever it may lead and having fun doing it.
Welcome back to the title ball show on the Civic Media Network.
Glad to have you along on a Wednesday, March 26th, almost in fifth, 26th in March, 2025.
Erin Summers, the wonderful and talented on the board.
Glad to have you along here on a Wednesday, right in the middle of a couple of things.
We are for the next week and a half, really until next Friday, not this Friday, the following Friday.
And by the way, can I just say this right now?
Every day is great, but cannot wait until next Friday, the 4th of April.
We're almost the end of April.
By the way, we're almost the end of March.
4th of April, Friday in this studio here in downtown Madison, the wonderful producer and director of Just A Bit Outside, the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers.
Kelly Call and Sean Hannish are going to be right here beside me, live and in person, because their film, just a bit outside, is part of the Wisconsin Film Festival.
This ain't civic media buying these tickets.
This is Toddy.
I have purchased out of my own personal finances.
two extra tickets for just a bit outside the movie to be shown next Friday night on campus at UW Madison during the Wisconsin Film Festival.
We'll give those away on Monday.
Monday.
Now that's exciting.
So be with us on Monday.
We'll give you a chance to win those two tickets to just a bit outside on Friday.
So be with us on Monday for that.
Anyway, so lots of it lots lots of excitement going on But the the thing we're playing for right now is a hundred bucks and who can't use a hundred bucks?
All you got is and it's only from the entries this hour in our springtime No break into spring springtime break trivia Contest texting all you have to do is text the word no trivia involved
And it's a statewide contest.
Text the word right now, Lawn, L-A-W-N as in Nancy.
Let me use it in a sentence for you.
In the spring, the lawn is green.
In the spring, the lawn, L-A-W-N is green.
Text the word lawn, L-A-W-N right now on the Civic Media app.
Somebody this hour will win 100 bucks.
Everybody is in the pool to win a brand new Verlo mattress set.
to literally bounce into spring on.
That was another thing my grandparents taught me growing up.
There's a song, you know, ten little monkeys jumping on the bed.
One fell off and hit his head.
Mama called the doctor.
The doctor said, no more monkeys jumping on the bed.
Yeah, we'll bring it up.
All right, we'll bring it up.
All right So text in the law on LAWN right now somebody's gonna win a hundred bucks this hour also Gonna wrap up here are what's worse for today?
Not remembering names or not remembering where you parked.
Zomers, what's worse?
Maybe that's just my personal experience, but on one hand, I'm pretty good at remembering names, but also if I don't remember it, I don't care.
If I got to ask you what your name is, I'll ask you what your name is.
If you judge me if you want, I don't care.
Now I know your name.
But if I lose my car, which I have, then you're kind of just stuck.
Especially if you parked far away from whatever event you're at and it's not in a parking lot like I've in Minneapolis I went to a convention and parked pretty far away because I had to and Walked around for like an hour and a half trying to find my car after Now I always drop a pin and in Google Maps of where I park whenever I have to do that Because that sucked
It's clearly not remembering names because
if generally speaking, unless I'm with someone, if I forget where I parked my truck, that's on me, and if I wander around for half an hour or whatever that's on me, if I don't remember somebody's name, as I said before, particularly if I feel a need to introduce that person to somebody I'm with, and I can't think of their name, it is absolutely embarrassing.
And I have done this, somebody else brought this up earlier, where you have to make that split decision.
Is that somebody I know or I think I'm pretty sure I remember their name.
And you say, hi, Susan.
And hi.
I think I look at you weird, like, holy crap, that's not their name.
And I said, oh, oh, my gosh, I'm sorry.
No, no, I'm I'm I'm Sharon, not Susan.
That's close.
Yeah, right.
L.A.
Tom commented on YouTube.
He says.
Always associate a name with someone else, you know, there's a guy named George.
I called him Edward the other day I knew I was wrong when I said Edward but played it up like I lost my mind now whenever I see him I think of curious George that monkey That's a good idea.
That's really great.
Yeah Another thing that helps me is asking a question when you're introduced like recently I met someone named Ashley We were in a bar.
It was noisy and so I was like wait was it Ashley or Ashlyn like Ashley I'm like, okay, and that helped cement it in my mind.
He said she has a great furniture store
I didn't I didn't mention it, but it's you know the thoughts there I didn't know her well enough to compliment her for just to story it, but we'll get there
41 minutes now past the hour of one o'clock a quick little sports note for you We talked about this briefly yesterday because it broke while we were on the air this from BadgerExtra.com story today Says Robin Pinkerton Pidgeoton, I believe it's proud Pidgeoton must be one heck of an interview
She must have wowed University of Wisconsin athletic director Chris McIntosh with her vision for the Badger Women's Basketball program.
Pidgetton must have been able to convince him that she can get ahead of the program in upward trajectory, even though her own career arrow is pointing down at the moment.
How else to explain why the person Macintosh hired to rebuild a program with 14 consecutive losing seasons is coming off back-to-back losing seasons of her own?
Things were trending so far in the wrong direction for Pigatin at Missouri that she announced her resignation last month ending a 15-year run with the Tigers that at best could be described as mediocre.
Pigatin went
250 wins and 218 losses at Missouri, a 53% winning average.
That looks fine on paper, especially when combined with the rest of Pegaton's resume.
She was 190 and 76 in eight seasons at St.
Ambrose University and NAIA school in Davenport, Iowa, and 144 and 81 in seven seasons at Illinois State before getting the job at Missouri.
Chris McIntosh said yesterday afternoon, quote, I think she'll be a great fit here.
And I'm excited for our fans and our staff and our friends in the media and for the state of Wisconsin to meet her.
I believe that they'll see the same thing in her that I do.
Still, it's hard for McIntosh to sell a vision of Piggaton, 56 years old, being a winner, considering how much she's done of losing as of late.
Get this.
The Tigers made four consecutive NCAA tournament appearances from 2016 to 2019, which just happened to be when the eventual WNBA second round pick Sophie Cunningham was a lights out shooter and scorer for the program.
Missouri has not returned to the NCAA tournament since Cunningham exhausted her eligibility.
Here are the Tigers record since that point.
A record of nine and 22.
9 and 13, 18 and 13, 18 and 14, 11 and 19, and 14 and 18 this past season.
Pinkerton's SEC record in the post Cunningham era was 28 wins and 66 losses, a ghastly 29% winning average.
Moving ahead to the story, in BadgerExtra.com,
So it's getting Wisconsin back to even being competitive in the Big Ten, something Bobby Kelsey, Jonathan Tipis and Marissa Mosley failed to do while going to combine 144 and 274.
Overall, over 14 dreadful seasons will be a tall challenge for the new coach.
Perhaps that history of losing scared off potential candidates who believed they could not win at Wisconsin, no matter how confident they were in their ability to secure talent and the coaches' X's and O's.
Perhaps the uncertainty surrounding former Wisconsin players' allegations of mistreatment by Mosley led to coaches with much bigger and brighter resumes than Pickerton's body of work to say thanks, but no thanks to Chris McIntosh.
McIntosh said, quote, I didn't receive any feedback on that, what asked by reporters.
Wisconsin interviewed more than 10 candidates according to McIntosh.
The school worked with, get this, a company called Turnkey, an executive search firm that it has used to help with
McIntosh admitted that Turnkey's Jocelyn Gates helped in this particular search.
Why is that important?
Because Gates is the wife of Missouri men's basketball coach Dennis Gates, but Chris McIntosh said Jocelyn Gates's connection to the Tigers isn't what led Wisconsin to Piggerton Quote Robin became a candidate and took place while we are already in the process deep in the process he said
to do a paraphrase for Wisconsin men's basketball coach, Bull Ryan.
Alls I know is that I might have been born in a weekend, but it was last weekend.
I mean, come on.
Later on in this article, it says even a Macintosh got stonewalled by some of the candidates.
He had intrigued option to the disposal.
One of them, Brad Fisher.
Had a run of a successful program at UW Oshkosh and recently took the Titans to the NCAA Division III national semi-finals.
He was in his own backyard.
But comparing Fisher to Bo Ryan would not be fair to the latter.
Ryan won four Division III national titles at UW Platteville, had two years of Division I, had coaching experience at UW Milwaukee, and had been an assistant at Wisconsin for eight seasons in the 70s and 80s.
But Fisher
A Marshfield native is highly regarded by high school and AAU coaches and state, in the state.
It would have been easier sell than Piggerton to fans starving for this program to start winning.
And it goes on.
I just wanted to bring this up because it's so frustrating to me.
I'm all for women's sports, but if you're going to have women's sports, then don't relegate them to second class.
either invest in them or move on.
Not with women's sports in general, but with this particular program.
When your program is in such a terrible shape that legitimate winning coaches don't even want to apply or be there, you got yourself a problem.
And there's a lot of talk online and stuff.
I mean, it was now relatively a long time ago that Wisconsin cut men's baseball.
I guess baseball has men, softball has women's, but they cut baseball.
So a lot of folks saying, well, just let the women's basketball program go and bring back baseball.
I'm not necessarily opposed to that.
I would love to see Wisconsin have a women's basketball program that compete with Iowa and other places.
But the only way you're going to do that is bring in a winning coach, somebody who really knows the game and has these relationships with it.
And now for those of you who don't know, it's not just your high school teams anymore.
What the really good kids in high school basketball are doing some of them aren't even playing for their high schools anymore They're playing for these private leagues these AAU leagues All right So you have to have a relationship with those programs if you're gonna recruit the best candidates in state of any sport I Think this is a sad hire.
I wish her well.
I hope that she does well with the women's program, but it doesn't look promising to me
You get nothing.
You lose.
Good day, sir.
Thank you, Gene Wilder and the Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.
We're going to come back and wrap things up.
We're going to end the show on a good note from the other basketball program.
And Mr. Gilmore wrote a letter to Badger fans.
Welcome back to the Tahleball show on the Civic Media Radio Network.
It is now nine before the hour of two o'clock at the top of the hour.
ABC or CBS News, depending upon which of our great stations you're listening to, a little weather update, a sports update with our fantastic sports reporter, the wonderful, the talented Mike Clemens.
And then hang on to your hats and hallelujahs.
It's the John and Gordy show 2.0 in the after John and Gordy afternoon.
Not after dark.
It's not as saucy as the later edition of John and Gordy, which is John and Gordy after dark.
It's PG 13, John and Gordy, John and Gordy in the afternoon.
John and Gordy, of course, are a great team.
Morning show here on WMDX in Madison every morning, six until eight.
Maggie Dawn is on vacation this week.
So I think she's at an attorney's conference.
There's new rules for the text to win contest.
This is where she's doing that, I don't know.
Anyway, John and Gordy went to kindness to come in now and do two shows a day.
So you can join them six to eight in Madison on MDX or on the app.
And then now every day this week, John and Gordy in the afternoon, two until four, stay around for them.
Always a great show.
And then Dom Selvia will be in it for a clock followed by Pete Schwabba and Nightlight.
And he has a, I hear it a special guest tonight.
I'll be tuning in.
Well, not exactly.
Um, they have on the director whose name escapes me at the moment, uh, of a movie called the threesome.
Really?
I don't know what this movie entails, but I am intrigued.
I am intrigued as well.
Due to my, uh, predilection towards blenders.
Peach Wabba and Nightlight on the new movie called threesome.
All right, very good.
Well, I'm looking forward to nervous anticipation to that.
So stick around all afternoon into the night here on Civic Media.
Want to end on this?
Great story in the Milwaukee Journal sent note a couple days ago.
Headline, Carter Gilmore pens an emotional goodbye to Wisconsin basketball.
John Blackwell says the Badgers will bounce back.
Carter Gilmore lived out his dream for five years on the Wisconsin basketball team when it ended on Saturday.
when Wisconsin lost to BYU in the second round of the NCAA tournament, the Heartland native is, quote, damn proud, unquote, to be called a badger.
The fan favorite and popular teammate took to Instagram, or as the kids say, Insta, to pet a heartfelt goodbye to Wisconsin basketball late Sunday night, thanking God, his family, the university, his coaches, teammates, fans, and even the doubters.
What read this to you from Carter Gilmore one Thank God for giving me this dream an opportunity to be a badger without you.
None of this would have been possible to Thank you to my family your love and support allowed me to live out my dream You guys mean more to me than you know Three to the University of Wisconsin.
I want to say thank you so much for this journey
Over the past five years, I have seen what it means to be a Wisconsin Badger and I leave here damn proud to say I am one.
Four, to my coaches, you guys have been the best mentors I could ask for.
You have blessed me by recruiting my 15 plus best friends slash teammates every year.
I look up to each and every one of you.
Number five, to my teammates, you already know what it is, all love.
I am so grateful that I got to meet each and every one of you guys.
We made memories that will last a lifetime on and off the court Six to the fans You are the reason why I play All I ever wanted to do was make you guys proud and to inspire others to follow their dreams and seven to the haters doubters and naysayers Thank you
exclamation point.
You guys relit the fire in me to follow my dream.
On to the next chapter, number seven, unquote.
Carter Gilmore is posting.
Gilmore, accompanying the post with a series of photos to represent his time with the Badgers, including a senior day photo with his parents and head coach Greg Gard and an image of fans at the Cole Center
who had his last name spelled across their chest.
The Arrowhead High School graduate addressed the fans in his post again saying, you are the reason why I play.
We get caught up this time of year for those that make bets, I do not.
I lost money on this.
Oh, you ruined my bracket.
At the end of the day, these are just 18, 19.
20, 22, 23-year-old guys following a dream.
And yes, I get it.
In today's world, there is NIL and money involved.
But Carter Gilmore represents everything that college athletics should be.
He represents the best of Wisconsin athletes, the best of Wisconsin students.
Following your dream, man, what could possibly be better than that?
As I've said before on this show, I had the honor and privilege of covering University of Wisconsin Platteville basketball for three and a half years under former head coach Bo Ryan.
Greg Gard was a senior at the time and then a graduate assistant.
When you travel with these guys and you see their passion and their dedication to bring us the fans' happiness, you understand just a little bit what getting love back and, you know, chanting their name or just accomplishing their dreams.
So take that with us today.
A little positive good.
Don't get so mean.
We get wrapped up in the politics.
We get wrapped up in all the negativity.
When you watch the rest of March Madness, men's or women's, when you watch college hockey women's game and the Badgers winning the national title and those girls giving it their all.
They're doing it to follow a dream.
Whatever your dream is, follow it.
It's not always going to be easy.
Going to have doubters out there.
Let that inspire you to follow.
your dreams.
Talob will say whatever you're fighting for, whatever you believe in.
Do not give up.
Keep banging your drum.
Stay tuned.
John and Gordy are next.
We'll see you tomorrow.