Every Vote Will Matter On April First (Hour 1)

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Every Vote Will Matter On April First (Hour 1)

The Todd Allbaugh Show · Wed Mar 26, 2025

Live from the Civic Media World Headquarters in Madison, Wisconsin, it's the Todd Alba Show.

And now, pursuing truth wherever it may lead, here's your host, Todd Alba.

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Good afternoon, everybody.

I'm Todd Albault, along with our engineer and producer, Mr. Aaron Zommers, on the board.

It is six past the hour of 12 noon on this Wednesday, March 26, 2025.

It is pop day.

Indeed.

And also a great day to be a Wisconsinite here in downtown Madison, the world headquarters.

Sun is back out at Zommers 50 degrees plus today here in Madison.

and across parts of Wisconsin.

Yeah, it's getting toastier.

Little

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by little.

Yeah, I love it.

Love it.

Some spring rain on the way for much of Wisconsin coming up here for the rest of the week.

But temperatures in parts of Wisconsin may get close or hit 70 degrees.

Bye.

Thursday, Friday this week.

So enjoy that.

As Zomer said, spring is, we're past the high school basketball tournaments now.

So hopefully no more major snowstorms.

But as I say that, we'll definitely get one right in April, right?

At some point.

But it looks like we've kind of turned the corner and spring is on the way.

So, so good for that.

Glad for that.

Glad to have you along everybody.

A big show for you today in just a bit.

Trig V. Olson will be joining us.

The senior advisor.

at the Lincoln Project.

Trigby has some new numbers in on the Supreme Court race for Wisconsin between Brad Schimmel and Susan Crawford.

The election coming up, of course, this coming Tuesday, now under one week.

Early voting is still going on right now.

You can early vote by going to your local county clerk's office or whatever the early polling place is in your municipality.

You can look it up very simply.

Get online and go to myvote.wi.gov.

Pulling places open up on election day proper at 7 a.m.

Close at 8 p.m.

But I have a plan to be a voter.

If you don't think like myself, gonna be helping out with election coverage with Dan Schaefer and Zomers and our crew.

So my plan is to vote early.

Either today or tomorrow, probably.

Have my

vote banked and see where that goes.

So we'll talk about that with Trigvie in just a moment.

Also, news out today, Trigvie's friend, he's been on this program, the great Chancellor of UW Eau Claire, Jim Schmidt, sadly is another victim of the incompetence of the University of Wisconsin system and President Jay Rothman as Chancellor Schmidt has taken a better opportunity and will go to the University of Virginia.

to run that great organization, certainly a loss for the Chippewa Valley.

And for the people.

Really?

Yeah, you didn't see that?

Our mutual friend just sent that to

us.

No.

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Yeah.

He's going to run UVA?

Well, I didn't see the whole story yet.

Here, let's pull it.

By the way, Trivielson now joins us from the beautiful capital, our nation's capital, outside there in the suburbs of Washington, DC.

Trivielson, like myself, a former Republican.

A native of River Falls, and now the senior advisor at the Lincoln Project.

Mr. Trivios, now are you my friend?

You

okay?

I'm sorry to just come in.

I don't know.

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He is easy without words.

So let's just run downwards.

So we're going to get to that story as well.

Also, the University of Wisconsin-Madison has a new women's coach in basketball, which is overwhelmingly

underwhelmed.

We'll talk about that in hour two.

Also, in hour two, our break into spring text to win contest.

Stay tuned.

At the end of this show, somebody will be $100 richer, giving away $100 in hour two when everybody is entered in to win a Verlo mattress set.

What better way to spring into spring than on a mattress?

Unlike JD Vance on a couch.

This is automatically allegedly So that's coming up in our two also what's worse for today?

Having to do with remembering things So we'll talk about that and much much more but right now trigger me and all we're gonna get to the the big news of the day out in DC of course with Pete Hegseth But as long as we brought it up, let's let's talk about this for a second

According to the University of, or according to Wisconsin State Journal, UW Chancellor Jim Schmidt is set to leave for a new job at Virginia University.

So,

James Madison,

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he says here.

But I think it's within the, well, it's in the, I see what they're saying, the headline is misleading in my opinion.

So, James Madison is in Virginia, but it should be at a Virginia University.

The headline here just says, at Virginia University.

So I apologize.

I did not mean to mislead anyone.

But at any event, you know, Chancellor Schmidt, well, he's been on this program.

We appreciate his hospitality when we've been in Eau Claire.

Here's a guy who's really making a difference in Northwestern Wisconsin.

He was passed over by the border regions and Governor Evers to be the president of the UW system in favor of a non educator and attorney that ran a huge law firm in Milwaukee in J Rothman.

And now

James Smith's taking his talents to James Madison.

Our loss their game.

Yeah, 100%.

Although it might be my daughter Ola's game because she's been looking at Virginia schools because

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in

state.

So yeah, but she was she's also looking at the University of Wisconsin.

But anyway, yeah, I mean, that's the thing, right?

Like.

Good people are gonna go look for great opportunities or they're gonna get poached away and that seems to be what's the case here

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that happens in all vocations of life unfortunately, but My friend Tommy raise back how he used to work with him politics.

He had a great line He said Todd life's all about options good advice.

I think

it is all about options options are important

They're definitely important.

Good

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to

have options, Todd.

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It is.

And I'm happy for Jim Schmidt, but again, very sad for the University of Wisconsin system and for the Chippewa Valley in particular, because it's a huge loss.

And we hope they find somebody that can carry on the legacy and the tradition of Chancellor Schmidt and UW Eau Claire.

Let's move to National News, Trig V.

We've been following this or you've been following it.

There's more breaking news this morning and it is on this texting over the private text app called signal and It has to the defense secretary Pete Hegseth according to Axios a growing number of Democrats in Congress are calling for defense secretary Pete Hegseth and national security adviser Mike Walls to be fired or resigned over the leak of a signal chat discussing a strike in Yemen

The Atlantic, whose editor-in-chief, Jeffrey Goldberg, was inadvertently added to the chat, published the entire transcript this morning.

Hexeth sent the group details about the timing in a weapons system in advance of a strike on the Houthi rebel group.

And I want to just, I'm sure you've seen it trickily, but for those that haven't seen it, I want to read you just a couple, I want to read you the timeline that's been published this morning in The Atlantic.

And then we're going to discuss it and the reaction on both the Democratic and Republican side.

The Atlantic says this, at 11.44 a.m.

Eastern, Hengseth posted in the chat in all caps, quote, team update.

The text beneath this began, quote, time now, 11.44 Eastern time.

Weather is favorable, just confirmed with SECCOM.

We are a go for mission launch, unquote.

that it says SECCOM or Central Command is the military's combat command for the Middle East.

The Hexeth text continues, quote, 1215 Eastern Time, F-18's launch, first strike package, 1345, that's military time, trigger-based F-18, first strike, window starts, target terrorist is at his known location, so should be on time.

Also, Strike Drones launch MQ-9s.

Unquote.

The Hegseth text then continues, quote, 1410 military time.

More F-18s launch, second strike package.

1415, Strike Drones on target.

This is when the first bombs will definitely drop, pending earlier trigger-based targets.

Next line.

1536 military time.

F-18 second strike starts.

Also, first season or first sea-based Tomahawks launch.

Stepping away from this, Tomahawks are missiles that are launched from a ship.

Back to the text.

Quote, more to follow per timeline.

We are currently cleaning on OSEC, or OPSEC, O-P-S-E-C, that is operational security.

Godspeed to our warriors."

Unquote.

Then in the Atlantic says, shortly after President JD, Vice President JD Vance texted to the group, quote, I will say a prayer for victory.

Unquote.

Trivie, there's no debating whether or not this was military information that was shared beyond secured lines, secured places.

Your your colleague at the Lincoln Project a couple days ago Stuart Stevens made the point You've helped run presidential campaigns if a campaign manager for a Republican candidate had included a journalist on a text about campaign plans They'd be fired

Well, they probably yeah or demoted or some there would be some consequence.

This is even sort of more egregious than that

in the sense that there are secure channels for this kind of thing.

And signal is relatively secure from an encryption standpoint.

It's really secure.

But I want to correct one thing you said.

And I think you were reading a news story.

He didn't leak this in the sense that

leaking is typically if something, you're a reporter and I give it to you and say, don't tell anyone I gave it to you.

And that's a leak.

They invited him onto this signal chat.

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Correct.

Inadvertently, but they invited him.

And I mean, it's so ham-handed.

They lied grossly.

I don't know if Zomers can pull the conversation with Laura Ingram yesterday, but they were literally saying no classified material.

They forced his hand.

They had to know they were lying and they were trying to get out of the story.

And once again, they're gaslighting and they're trying to play people off as stupid.

And Tulsi Gabbard lied about it to court.

So she purged herself on it.

Congress, yeah, my bad.

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Yeah, we'll look at that.

Well, we come back.

We do have a great audience.

I'm going to start earlier today on Tim Miller's podcast.

Andrew Goldberg, the reporter on the Jeffrey, pardon me, Jeffrey Goldberg, reporter on this, is on Miller's show with even more shocking information, perhaps.

We'll have that cut for you and let you hear it in his own words.

What he didn't publish in the Atlantic

but was in this text, as Trigvie said, of which the U.S.

Secretary of Defense invited him to.

Also, the Republican and Democratic response.

Don't go anywhere.

It's the Todd Albao Show.

If you're in the crease and he has a breakaway shot, I pity you on the hockey arenas.

Trick V. Olsen, nobody shoots it harder and better than himself, whether there's politics or ice.

Hockey, the great Trick V. Olsen, happy to have him along the River Falls native, and now a senior advisor at the Lincoln Project joins us every Wednesday.

By the way, Kraitlo says to tell you hello.

For those that don't know, Kraitlo is now, he has a new meeting on Wednesdays.

So he's joining us on Tuesdays.

So we got to figure out a way we can do it.

We can have you just pop in for a couple of minutes and harass Crichtlow on a Tuesday.

Yeah, I need to get up one morning and go on Crichtlow's show.

It's so hard for me, Todd, because I don't speak to people at 10.

I know.

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And I've traveled with him.

I've traveled with Trayvie.

And I just wait down in the lobby whenever he's ready to talk.

He comes down and talks.

I told you that my, I have a really good British friend and mentor and he said to me, he just laughed because we ended up long story, but I was doing some work.

We were working on a project for down in the Caribbean for like.

Two weeks and he wanted to get up.

He's a morning person.

He's like one of those 4 a.m.

People so he goes for a walk at 6 You wanted me to come with you me and him and of course I didn't say anything And he's like you're so strange you say nothing before 10 never shut up after And it's true

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kind of true But it's a good way.

That's a good way for those watch on the stream trivia speaking of breaking into spring

You've shaved your beard.

Yeah.

You know, my face every once in a while, I have to do it because it itches.

And my my daughter, Kaya, is not very happy about it.

But the other two ladies in my life are pretty happy about it.

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OK, very good.

Talking about the big story out in DC, Defense Secretary Pete Hagseth put a reporter from the Atlantic editor-in-chief, Jeffrey Goldberg, into a group text.

on the platform called Signal.

And I had to give detailed information about a strike in Yemen against the Houthi terrorists, putting the men and women who wear the uniform at risk.

And who knows what other information is being shared on this non-government administered platform on non-government controlled devices.

Senator Michael Bennett, Democrat of Colorado, citing Hegsteth and Walz's denials that classified information or war plans, quote, unquote, were discussed in the chat, said in a statement, quote, they must both resign, unquote.

Representative Maxwell Frost, Democrat of Florida, a member of the Democratic leadership, said on X, quote, had this specific plan gotten into the wrong hands, Americans would be dead right now.

Walls and Hagseth must be fired immediately.

Reuben Gallego, a Democratic senator from Arizona, said Hagseth needs to resign, and that the incompetence and cover-up is embarrassing.

House Minority Leader Hakim Jeffery's Democrat called on Hagseth to be fired.

No Republicans have called yet for resignation, but some are ratcheting up their criticism of the administration.

Notably, Representative Don Bacon, Republican of Nebraska, said, quote, the White House is in denial that this is not classified or sensitive data.

And putting it down where the chickens can get at it, other people are using stronger language, certainly than that.

Republican Senator from Montana, newly elected Tim Sheehy, I have to watch it and clean it up for radio, said, quote, well, somebody effed up.

Unquote she is a former Navy SEAL and so that's reporters on Monday Tim Miller on his podcast had the reporter Jeffrey Goldberg on yesterday Goldberg told Miller there was more that he did not publish.

Here's the here's the cut

There's

a covert CIA operative named on the threat, right?

Well, yes, and I withheld her name from this.

They named somebody who's an active CIA officer in this thread, which is on Signal again, a commercial app in which I'm watching.

And I withheld it.

I didn't put it in the story because she's under cover.

But I mean, the CIA director put it into the chat.

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Trigby the CIA director put into a chat that was unsecured the name of a current and active undercover CIA agent I mean, yeah, as you off well you go ahead

I mean

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soft as you so often remind me you say you look at

how good Look at how the if this here's the thing that people who are on right need to ask themselves

And this is how you can tell if people are being extremists.

And if this were a Democrat administration, how would you be responding?

We all have to start putting ourselves in other people's shoes and not, you know, think about that for a minute.

Because we're all Americans first.

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And we need more people calling our elected officials, having them listen to us and say, look, these folks need to resign or need to be impeached.

Your voice does matter call your local congressperson call your state set a state or a part of me US senator Tammy Baldwin or Ron Johnson and Voice it because we need more Republicans joining bacon We need more Democrats out there say we have listened to our constituents and this isn't us talking as politicians We are representing our constituents

and Americans are rising up against this.

855-752-4842.

Let's go to Ken Bob on the phone in Dalyville.

Ken Bob, thanks for calling in.

What's up?

Well, like I told your screener, this is mind-bogglingly stupid.

They identify in the actual report, it's a message or distributed to wall that U.S.

officials had positive identification of the target.

walking into his girlfriend's building and now it's collapsed.

So with this guy, this intelligent source who contacts us with confirmations and things, we just told the Houthis where he was, what he was watching, and what happened.

And now they know where to look for this guy.

And that's been a publish in Al Jazeera because this Trump administration was too dishonest to admit that there was classified information there and it would have been then withheld by the Atlantic, but they, I just,

Um, I can't, I just can't.

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Yeah.

No, I appreciate the call, Ken Bob.

A-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

I think veterans, before this even, with the cuts to the Veterans Administration and other VA programs, the cutting of the money to address victims of burn pits or military heroes, I think the picture is becoming more and more clear that this administration simply does not care

about veterans or military, but are we surprised?

Because again, he stood at the grave of a fallen navy seal and said, I just don't get it.

I just think at the end of the day, right?

They they screwed up and then

It's not the crime is bad.

The cover-up is worse.

Yeah.

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Come on

back.

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Triggy has new numbers on the Supreme Court race in Wisconsin.

We will reveal them and discuss it.

Take your phone calls as well.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2 is the all ball show on Pacific Media.

Stay tuned.

Welcome

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back to the title of the show.

The Civic Media Radio Network 34 now past the hour of 12 noon on this Wednesday, March 26, 20, 25, Zomers.

What did you dial up off of the Trigvielson playlist?

Just Can't Get Enough by Depeche Mode.

Oh, Depeche Mode.

I like that.

Very good.

Just Can't Get Enough.

For many of us, kind of political geeks, like Trigby and I, we like numbers.

Can't Get Enough information.

And that's what Trigby brings us today in his work with the Lincoln Democracy Institute and other organizations.

Have a big race coming up.

And this surprises me, Trig.

Well, I said it shouldn't because I know people like you and I, we kind of just consume news and we're all into it.

For normal Wisconsinites, they're like, hey, the ice is off the lake and we will get the fishing going or, you know, looking at gardens and things like that.

But there is a race coming up and this is serious now.

Polling and other things show that a lot of people are just not aware because they're just sick of the news.

They turned out and who could blame them quite frankly.

But there is a very important election coming up on Tuesday, April 1st.

No joke.

And it is the big race, of course, is for Wisconsin State Supreme Court.

Brad Schimmel, the former Republican attorney general, taking on the common sense and law abiding judge in Susan Crawford.

And Trig V, you have some new information to share because I think for some people, they look at the ads or whatever and say, oh my gosh,

We're very concerned this thing might be baked, done, and that Schimel's gonna walk away with this, but in the words of Lee Corso, the ESPN former coach analyst, not so fast, it might be closer than the experts think.

Yeah, well, so I have access to some research that's just been done.

Basically, I mean, the race for Schimel is somewhere between 48.5 and 50.1, and right now Crawford is somewhere between 48 and 50%, so with two to 4% undecided, and then a lot of questions about what turnout is going to look like, right?

Like any model, any survey in terms of an election, I'm less...

Inclined to say here's exactly where things are in terms of I'm not making predictions.

I'm just telling you where

things are right now You know so who are these people that are if it's if it's you know really low turnout that probably works to Schimel's advantage if it's really high turnout Probably works to Crawford's advantage.

There's kind of four sweet spots in this low turnout really low turnout helps Schimel

Turnout that goes above that works Crawford's edge and then moderate turnout kind of goes back to Schimel Assuming that some of these low propensity Trump voters and in more rural counties show up and then really high turnout goes back to Crawford really because That's even lower propensity voters in Milwaukee in Dane County

You know, it's hard to say.

I mean, people just need to get out and vote.

The people who are still undecided about this thing, they tend to be more moderate to slightly conservative.

There aren't a lot of liberals still on the table or people on the left.

They're all in for Crawford.

They tend to reside more in rural places, the counties that are gonna matter from a turnout perspective for Crawford or Milwaukee and Dane.

For Schimel, it's gonna depend a little bit on

how much erosion there is in the Wau counties.

You know, they have been trending a little bit more towards the Democrats.

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And the battlegrounds are really brown.

Stop there just for a second.

They don't know what Wau stands for.

So those counties around Waukesha, Ozaki, and Washara, right?

Washington, Waukesha, and

Ozaki.

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Right around the.

You know, it's

going to be places.

places like O'Connor, Milwaukee, some of those kinds of places, and then really the Key Battlegrounds, yeah, Pewaukee, River Hills, you know how that's going to vote.

But I think that's technically

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Milwaukee

County.

But Key Battlegrounds, Brown, Audigamey, Winnebago, so up in the valley, Racine Kenosha, and then La Crosse, Eau Claire, and St.

Croix.

Those will be the...

really the places that have enough votes and, you know, when you start talking about some of those Western Wisconsin counties, there's some of the most purple counties in the state.

And they have enough population that they matter, right?

So, as you know, like the work that I do with the Lincoln Democracy Institute, we focus a lot on

personalities and cognitive traits.

The people who are undecided or who are leaning one way or the other, they tend to be very cognitively reflexive, which means they're people who are actually consciously thinking about the choice that they're gonna have to make.

And I suspect there's a little bit of them that are torn between uncomfortable with what's happening.

You know, they're more conservative, right-leaning, center-right-leaning, so their habit of tending to vote for Republicans and looking at people on the left with a little bit of skepticism.

So it's really important on Crawford's part to reinforce, I think, you know, personally who she is with the attacks that are being levied at her and doing it directly herself.

They're conscientious, they're extroverted, they tend to be agreeable.

You know the the people on the left and right have made up their decision They know how they're gonna vote the ones who are gonna change your sort of that right of center people so

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yeah, it's It's really interesting again for people like you and I who really dig down in this and and as you and I were talking, you know yesterday kind of preparing I Guess my big takeaway trigger maybe it sounds over simplistic, but again, I think there are people out there

that may think, does my vote matter?

I see so many ads for Shimmel, and now there's larger buys we're hearing for Crawford as well.

But there's a big influx of new ads from Elon Musk's pack.

Again, he has approached, I think, $19 million that he himself and his pack have put in.

We're now at north of $80 million combined between both candidates and third party spending in this.

And I think people are just going, it doesn't matter.

This thing is just baked.

And the takeaway for me, Trigby, is

Every single freaking vote is going to matter because it's so close and this race is not over And it's going to come down to every person listening to us and whether they go out and vote which will decide this election

Yeah, a hundred percent mean this election is is gonna be really close and and

You know, about 1.2 to 1.6% of Wisconsin voters fall in this category of people who were Evers Johnson voters and Harris and Trump Baldwin voters.

And they're high-prefensity voters, actually.

I mean, they're thoughtful.

They are gonna be key in this.

Yeah.

Key.

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But I think it's just so important.

I know we say this before every election, have a plan, be a voter.

But I get it just because I've been around the state a lot.

I listened to a lot of folks at bars and grocery stores and people are just so fed up.

And there are people on both political spectrum, both sides of the aisles that are fed up.

But I'm not just giving you false hope here because Trigby really knows this stuff and studies it and is in touch with other people to kind of verify.

He doesn't just come on here and say this.

This is a guy who really does a lot of homework, and we don't give him enough credit on this show, and you're a humble guy, Trig V. But you know this stuff, and it's going to be enormously close, and so I want to give people real hope that your vote really does matter in this election.

Going to the polls, casting, this could be within the margin of error, Trig V, where it triggers an automatic recount, right?

Yeah, 100%, for sure.

I mean, one half of one percent is the...

is the threshold.

Now, if the people who are most likely to show up and campaigns matter, I will say that there is, Shimmel may have overstepped based to a degree on what I've been seeing in attacking.

There

are a lot of people, more people in that sort of middle who feel like she's been unfairly attacked, but she has got to get

She's got to be responding directly to the kind of hits and I think you know nothing says Where the race is at more than the actions that you're seeing that campaigns are taking for people like you and I who are watching it and You know the fact that shimmel is pivoting to sort of I mean there's they've become a category of their own the trains ads right like

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It's trying to scare their very conservative base into making sure they go to the polls by giving out inaccurate and untruthful information against Susan Crawford on her stance against trans people and what people may be doing to their children.

Again, it's all scare tactics untrue, but it's to motivate them to get them to the polls.

855-752-4842.

Rob in Port Edwards calling in.

Rob, thanks for listening.

What do

you got?

Thank you.

I've been canvassing for Susan Crawford and Joe and for no on the constitutional amendment here for over a month.

And I've learned a lot in this whole process and I'm canvassing my community of Port Edwards.

And what I'm finding is many folks don't have a clue anything at all about the candidates.

And with all due respect to you folks in the media, television, radio, internet, however, God bless you all keep doing it.

Don't stop.

But the point I'm getting at is

These folks, they're smart people, they're great people, but they don't know enough about the candidates in particular.

They don't know when, where, how to vote in particular in our little community.

And so my encouragement to each and every listener out there, if you are passionate about this, and I hope you are because this is huge, you talk to people and it doesn't matter if they are known Democrats.

talk to people and encourage them and give them straight information.

Don't don't tell them stories, but the most important part is that they know exactly what this is about, who the players are in respect to the issues and where and when and how to vote.

That's my encouragement.

Hey,

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Rob, don't don't hang up before before you go.

I'm here.

I just want to say this.

It's only Wednesday, but so far you're the top running for best call of the week.

That's fantastic.

Yeah, 100%.

Maybe the month.

Yeah, really, because if people don't know where Port Edwards is, Trigby and I were in your neck of the woods here last fall.

It's just south of Wisconsin Rapids and north of Nicosia.

It's a beautiful part of the state.

Yes, we're on the river.

Yes, we have water here.

Yeah, right.

But it's a very red community, but that being said,

I am encouraged by folks that I had thought were very red.

I'm finding out that they're closet democrats in some cases.

And they really need encouragement to speak their mind and do that via a vote.

I'm encouraged, but I'm scared.

The vast amount of money is being spent is just obscene.

I'm going to let

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Trig V speak to this.

But Trig V, I think what Rob just said there,

If you want to know the way to cut through 80 million dollars a crap, and I got to clean it up for radio, the relationships you have, one-to-one, your friends and family is more powerful, agree or disagree, Trigby?

Yeah, 100%.

I mean, that... And it's not about lecturing them or... It's about asking them questions and leading them to understand what's at stake, and they're gonna...

and having faith that they're going to make the right choice if you help lead them to

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it.

Really great call, Ron.

Thanks for all the work

you're

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doing.

Go ahead.

Go ahead.

There's a great BBC article right now that you could read on how to approach people that you believe have a differing opinion, and it's a good short read, but what you really don't want to do is be confrontational or be able to change their mind.

What you want to do is elicit their opinion and their rationale and respect that.

Okay.

I don't believe the same thing you believe in, but if you respect these people, odds are they're going to say, hey, this guy's, you know, he's, he's square.

He's got a point there.

So anyway, God bless you all.

Hey, thank you, Rob.

I mean, that's the

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way to do it, right?

Trigby, right there.

I

mean,

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go to every political conference you want, but I mean, you're not going to learn anything better than what Rob just told us, uh, from poor Edwards.

And it just goes I mean you you know this for you you see it I mean it just you know I mean was Wisconsin common sense It's taking care of our neighbors is taking care of our family and use your brain and be respectful and don't be a jerk and have real conversation Do you know what generally speaking when you do that?

Wisconsin lights are gonna do the right thing So

oh 100%

Todd Allbaugh

I really, really appreciate Rob.

I think we're up against the clock right now, so we'll come back.

We've got Kathy and Cambridge and Ollie in the Northwoods, as Matt Flynn says.

We see you on the lines.

Do not hang up.

We will take those calls when we come back.

And we'll check Trigley Olsen's Green Bay Packers draft board and see what's happening there.

You

know, he does.

Todd Allbaugh

He is one of the owners, making big decisions along with Goody.

Come on back.

It's the Todd Albal Show.

It's Wednesday.

It's on the Civic Media Radio Network.

You're down three goals to two.

There's 18.9 seconds on the clock.

One shot, a penalty to tie it up and send it to OT in the national championship game.

That's the kind of music you have in your head.

Trigby, did you watch any of the Wisconsin versus Ohio State national championship women's hockey match game over the weekend?

Kirsten Sims with 18.9 seconds, the best

Stick handling I've ever seen men's women's college and a NHL penalty shot ties it up OT and Kirsten Simpson overtime with the back of her stick flips into the net Badgers won the national championship

Yeah, I said I read about it.

I didn't see

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it's incredible

pretty spectacular

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dial

it up Mark Johnson's quite a coach eight

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national championships eight

Yeah.

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Can we

get him on the can we get him on the

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show?

We're trying.

We're trying.

I really

want to be on that

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day.

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

I'll be having a fanboy moment

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with that, right?

We're always a fan of Trivie Olsen, senior advisor at the Lincoln Project, bringing us new and hopeful information that, in fact, well, I mean, some people might want to have a bigger lead.

But but this election coming up on Tuesday, April 1st, Supreme Court Department of Public Instruction

Other elections on there, but the big one is Supreme Court Crawford versus Schimmel.

Trigby's saying his analysis, data reporting, it is going to be extremely close.

Every vote will matter.

You could be the difference.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

Kathy, listening on WMDX and beautiful Cambridge.

Lots of great pottery there in Cambridge.

Kathy, how are you?

What do you have?

Oh good, I'm just putting my two cents into Susan Crawford because I'm mad that's even close.

Do you realize that Wisconsin Pregnant Women will die if Bradchin was elected?

You know what's doing it?

It's happening right now in all the other states.

They go in with bleeding for miscarriage or a topic pregnancy and doctors can't treat them for fear of prosecution.

Don't let Wisconsin women have that.

Get the BS out of there both for Susan Crawford.

Thanks for listening

Todd Allbaugh

Thanks.

Thanks, Kathy.

I appreciate it.

People were referring to Brad Simmel now as BS trick me around here

Yeah, I know who came up with that.

I'm not sure was that was that quite low or who was that?

I'm not sure.

No,

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I think a lot of you.

Oh, okay

Was it you?

He

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said it some listeners said it look at trivia a coin or a trend setter eight five five seven five two forty four two Ollie up in the beautiful Northwoods Ollie.

What do you have?

Well, I'm not sure I can top the other lady Just I heard a BS commercial this morning.

That was truly full of BS about where Susan Crawford stands on voter ID and

I also want to challenge the people of Wisconsin, whether you are a Democrat or Republican, to look at where our country stands right now.

Mr. Trump is supporting BS and Elon Musk is paying for his campaign.

Those should be a red flag to every voter in Wisconsin to

take stock of what's happening to our country today.

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Yeah.

Thanks, Ollie.

Appreciate it.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-2 down to Milwaukee we go.

W-A-U-K, Iran and Milwaukee.

Ron, if you can make it brief, please.

What do

you have?

Yeah, I found a newspaper in my mailbox yesterday.

I thought it was real because I get a lot of little organization newsletters and newspapers, shape-like newspapers.

That was Wisconsin.

Catholic Tribune and on the cover it said T girls support Crawford and inside was a big long article about trans women who you know, it's kind of disgusting.

So I think that's where they're going with this.

I looked it up a little bit of research went out, ProPublica found out that this is a right wing operation funded largely by the by the E lines.

Yeah.

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Pretty sick.

Uh, I

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mean, it's valuable information.

I appreciate you bringing it to us, Ron, but, uh, trigger me pretty sick stuff.

Yeah.

I mean, but is it surprising?

No, right?

Like,

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no, not a surprise, nor is

unexpected.

Uh, so, I mean, I just think, you know, people, I get where it, it, it, it rages people and makes them angry.

I'm not sure that.

getting angry about it really does a lot of constructive good.

Everybody knew going in that if you were realistic that this stuff was going to start to come.

The question is, what are you doing to counter it?

Todd Allbaugh

Right.

Register to vote.

Be a voter.

As Rob said, pardon me, earlier in Port Edwards, talk to people you know, one-on-one, individually, respectively, respectfully.

And that's how this race is going to be won.

It could be very, very close.

A minute and a half left, Trig V. Any thoughts on the upcoming draft in Green Bay?

in April?

What do I think about the upcoming draft?

You know, I was kind of hoping that they'd ship the pick off and get Miles Garrett, but that's not going to happen.

That was my dream.

You know, I kind of I kind of think he's going to be aggressive.

But, you know, I also think there's all these people who are saying, oh, they're going to make a trade move up because it's in Green Bay, whatever.

I don't think Gouda Kunst and Mark Murphy are going to be making any.

decisions like that based on optics.

And it's not their track record, right?

No.

Todd Allbaugh

I mean, it's just not how they do things.

But

Gudakunst is really good with the drafts.

So, I mean, he is good at drafting people.

I have a lot of faith in that.

All right, well, we'll

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see.

He didn't do much in free agency, but he did more than Ted Thompson.

Remember when we had Ted Thompson?

He never signed anybody, really, other than Woodson.

But I'm optimistic about the pack.

Wait, wait a minute.

Ted Thompson signed Aaron Rodgers, right?

No, he didn't.

He drafted him.

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Oh, oh,

oh.

Todd Allbaugh

Well, OK.

Yeah, they drafted.

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Is Rodgers going to end up at Minnesota?

Yeah, because Russell Wilson just went to the Giants this morning.

The Steelers are saying they don't want Rodgers.

Is he really going to follow the far path?

I don't think anybody wants him.

Including networks for NFL analysts, by the way.

No, yeah, he's too polarizing.

Never polarizing, always comforting.

Trigme Olsen, we appreciate you, my friend.

Have a great week.

Thank you, buddy.

All right, take care.

Trigme Olsen, everybody.

Come on back.

A hundred bucks on the line next hour.

You could be you next hour.

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