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Good afternoon, everybody.
I'm Todd Alba, along with our outstanding producer, Mr. Aaron Zommers, on the board.
It is six past the hour of one o'clock.
Welcome into hour number two of the big program.
It is Wednesday, March 19th, 2025, and it is pump day.
That's right.
And it is also a great day to be Wisconsinite here at the World headquarters downtown Madison.
It is a rating right now.
Little rain outside and can expect that to continue here in Madison.
Parts of the state are already receiving snow, particularly up in trivius old stomping ground up there in the River Falls area up there.
It's a little snowy up there in Chippewa Valley.
Also going to be snowy.
Well, eventually all this precipitation if it's not already is
this front moves through is going to change to snow so throughout the afternoon into tonight some of Wisconsin roadways if they're not already will become very slickery as they say so do drive carefully allow extra time if you have to be on the roads tonight some places in Wisconsin could see six maybe eight inches locally in terms of actual snowfall this could be the wet heavy stuff so please don't be
It's a, unfortunately a time when a lot of folks can have heart attacks, try to move that kind of snow around.
If you don't have to go anywhere, you might want to just let it sit because we'll be back in the fifties for much of the state by the end of the week.
Last coming up in hour number two today, talk about this fun story down in Milwaukee, where students are showing off underwater engineering schools at the seventh annual sea perch tournament.
Talk a little bit about that.
That'll be fun.
Also, uh, 48 years ago today, the final curtain fell on the Mary Tyler Moore show.
48 years ago today.
We'll talk a little bit about that.
Talk about our brackets as well as the Badgers are set to take on the Montana Grizzlies on Thursday.
Pregame show starts at 11 30.
The tip off time is around 12 30.
You can hear that locally.
on stations across the broadcast airwaves in Richland Center, Amory and Wisconsin Rapids.
Due to the NCAA and their agreement with Westwood One, we are not able to stream that on the Civic Media apps.
You have to live in one of those communities.
For those watching on television, I believe it's on TNT, which will be broadcast on Thursday as well.
Also, what's worse coming up here in a minute, but our friend, Trig V. Olson,
Senior advisor at Lincoln Project has agreed to stick around to have a little fun with what's worse.
We're going to do that in a minute.
But first, we're going to go out to Los Angeles, California in LA, Tom, before the break, before the end of last hour.
We were talking about this article or this post that Mark Cuban had done and Trigvie was talking about this on the effect of tariffs, the Trump tariffs, which it looks like, according to the figures that Trigvie has here, Mark Cuban.
up to 10% or more of Wisconsin jobs are going to be affected negatively on this.
And just talking about the messaging of why we don't hear more about this.
L.A.
Tom, thanks for joining us.
We'll see.
Yeah, Todd.
First, I want to compliment you on showing where each $100 is going to of taxes.
And I hope that you can do that also on the state level as much.
Um, the one question I have is how much of that tax dollars is actually going also towards tax breaks, uh, for the rich.
Um, so I would love it if you could work on that again.
It's a really important thing.
Also, please take the quiz, select a candidate quiz.
Cause I want everyone to take that cause it'll show that they're voting against their best or voting for their best interests.
Um,
You know, what we have to think about, and this is going to be controversy, especially with you and Trigby, I think.
Republicans do not like we the people government.
They said they want to destroy it, and their actions are showing that.
Democrats like we the people government and want it to be better.
If you love your job, or if you're at your job and you love the company, you're going to do really, really good for the company.
If you hate your job,
you're not going to do such a great job for the company.
So I would say to anybody out there that's, you know, talking about Sue and Crawford and Mr. BS, you know, hey, do you want someone that really believes in the rule of law and believes in good government, good, we the people government, or do you want someone that's just basically owned completely by the special donors?
It's not that the Democrats are not
also in the getting money for politics to run for office.
But I'm sorry, this is the Republican sandbox and the Democrats are just playing in it.
Democrats have put up many bills on a federal level to try to get money out of politics, including HR1, which they were filibustered on.
And that is the clue behind this whole thing.
And I really think Democrats
What I'm doing, Todd, to find solace, and I hope everyone else maybe think about this, I'm going back and I'm listening to the old FDR speeches.
And I'll tell you what, you know what, that's when it was, government was great.
And what Democrats need to really do, and I think even people in the middle need to start doing, is saying, let's make government great again.
Because government is we the people, we pay our taxes,
That's what pays for the things such as the fire department and all of that.
And honestly, the Republican party, and it's been their goal for a very, very long time, has been they want to privatize things, and they don't want to have things in the public sector.
And I'll tell you this, if my house is burning down, I do not want to have to make sure I call and be on an automated service and say,
I hope you paid your dues so the whole neighborhood doesn't burn down.
You all from it.
But that's what the Republican party would like to have happen is everything to be privatized.
Stand by.
Don't go anywhere.
Just stand by.
Stay on the line.
We'll keep the line open there for LA Tom Triggy.
Democrats need to start caring like Democrats, but fighting like Republicans, right?
Like that, at the end of the day, that's what needs to happen.
And I just think, I don't know, I think at the end of the day,
you know, if Democrats, there's a lot of people who've been sold this bill of goods that government isn't doing anything for them until they need it.
And everybody hates lawyers until you need one, right?
Like it's the same thing.
And people like the roads they drive on, they, you know, and this is an assault on government.
I don't know how much of this is, I mean, it's a very sort of, it's not a sliver.
It's a lot of Republicans.
Republicans tend to be more skeptical of government, but the ones who are running the ship in this are these really sort of libertarian, we don't need no government, except for if I can get a big contract to install my rocket ship stuff.
Then I'm all for it.
I agree with you and yeah, I mean, I don't think that was particularly controversial LA Tom I thought you nailed a lot of great points.
I I think two things a on the messaging I agree with Brian Schatz the US senator from Hawaii Democrat who has said that you know Democrats need to start talking like normal people his term his words not mine, which I think is absolutely true I'll also say this and
You know, I think most Wisconsinites loved Bob Uker, still love Bob Uker, the longtime brewer announcer of 50 plus years who passed away here a couple of months ago.
And Lane Grindel, his longtime co-announcer, who is now the voice of the brewers for this season.
Lane Grindel wrote a great piece about Bob Uker and Uker telling him the secret or one of the secrets to good announcing.
And he said, you know, stats are great.
All these stat sheets, they give us and everything.
Yeah, they're, they're, they're great.
I mean, hey, man, use them like, you know, but he said, don't get confused.
The game is out there.
And he pointed from the announcing booth onto the field.
He said, the game's out there.
It's on the field.
It's in the stands.
In other words, if you want to paint a great picture for our audience, don't have your nose buried in the stats.
Just look out there.
And I think sometimes in our travels, trivia around the state, I wish Democrats would spend more time out there.
And I wish that they would actually see how people are living and how they and that there's not all a bunch of hateful people that are voting for Donald Trump.
They're just frustrated.
And I think we have to learn that the game of politics, it's out there in the state of Wisconsin.
It's not behind polls and stat sheets.
No, I absolutely agree with you.
And the fact that, you know, the people out there, I believe that it's not that they're bad people.
It's honestly that they're being buffooned.
They're actually being lied to and they're actually believing it.
And I wish they could come to a thing that says, you know, I have been snuckered by these people.
But what the Democratic Party needs to do, get back to your
FDR roots, get back to your Teddy Roosevelt roots in terms of the Republican side, talking about conservation and talking about the beauty of this country and the national forest and things like that that Teddy talked about and FDR talking about people getting healthcare for all and social security and
unemployment and the WPA system.
And he wasn't about just giving people money just to give people money.
The government was the employee of last resort.
And I think that, you know, we don't have a thing right now where we have a lot of competition in business.
We have monopolies.
So therefore you do not even have, and now you have corporate capture where the corporations are bought off.
And I'm telling you, the problem is, it is a conservative Supreme Court that brought us Citizens United.
Oh, sure, yeah.
They brought us Berkeley versus Bulejo, and they brought us First National Bank versus Bellotti.
I appreciate it.
They made corporations, people, and made this whole mess happen.
Trick me.
Let's wrap it up on that, please.
I mean, I would say this.
I'm just thinking, as Tom's talking, the reality is the Democrat Democratic Party, much like the Republican Party, the Republican Party is held captive by the extremes of the party, and the Democrat Party is to a degree too.
Part of the reason there was a survey that just came out that shows most voters, even Democrats, think that the Democrats are mostly concerned with the issues of their base and not problems of average people until they fix that.
And part of the reason why the culture wars on the right win is because Democrats are afraid to say certain things because they don't want to offend.
a small portion of their base that's out of step on a lot of these things.
And it allows things that aren't really things like men playing women's sports in the state of Wisconsin, in high school athletics, that's not a thing to become things.
Right.
Appreciate it.
Stay tuned.
Trigman are going
to start off.
He's a stick around to help us start off with what's worse.
Not going to want to miss that.
A little lighter side after this.
Don't go anywhere.
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our our billing our finances here He had a blanket wrapped.
It was it gets chilly in this office.
He had a blanket I said I wish I wish I was home with a blanket and a hot cup of coffee today or chillier
It's
one of those days in Wisconsin.
I was the weather out in Washington, D.C.
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We had some callers in the line here and wanted to keep discussing media and that sort of thing.
We'll do that after the 130 break if those folks want to call it back.
But right now at 22 past 1 o'clock, time once again for What's Worse.
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All right, as Mike Lucas says timely.
Timely indeed Trigvie also stayed around to help us us kick off this edition of what's worse Trigvie I've traveled with you and You know usually we try not to have a report down at the lobby earlier than nine Because Trigvie needs to sleep and so today's what I don't talk before 10 o'clock
That's actually pretty accurate.
He comes down to the lobby and I know I know well by now I just sit there reading something on my phone or the paper and when
That's also kind of true, but in a good way.
All right, here's what's worse, especially with a day like today.
Sometimes some people are staying up late to watch the March Madness and sleep can be a problem.
So today's, what's worse?
Trouble sleeping or trouble waking up?
Trouble sleeping or trouble waking up?
855-752-4842-855-752-4842, your context is on the Civic Media app.
What's worse, trouble sleeping or trouble waking up?
I ask you, Trigvielson.
I feel for you
Are you
Oh, yeah.
You know,
I
up.
Yeah.
No, absolutely.
8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.
We go to Cindy in beautiful Appleton, Wisconsin.
Cindy, trouble sleeping or trouble waking up?
What's worse?
Hey, Todd.
Hey, Trigby.
Trouble sleeping, because if I don't sleep well, then I have trouble getting up.
So if I sleep like a log, I can get up in the morning without a problem, but not the other way around.
All right, very good.
Well, thank you.
I appreciate the call.
So the 855-752-4842, 855-752-4842.
Lots of texts coming in.
We go to the phone lines again.
Our friend Troy in Mount Horrib calling in.
Troy, what's worse, trouble sleeping or trouble waking up?
Pretty much just like Joe said, trouble sleeping because then I'm a bear in the morning if I don't get enough sleep.
Oh,
hey, real quick.
Yeah, real quick.
The guy with the Peruvian wife, he was in Newsweek this last week, I think, saying that he won.
He'd vote for Trump again.
Wow.
So I don't know if he just wanted to get rid of his wife or what, but I don't
know.
I'm not sure is
Chris.
What?
But he said in there that he was hoping that publicity around this.
would get Trump to make the policy better like Trump cares about him and his wife or something.
Incredible.
All right.
Thanks Troy.
I appreciate it.
What's worse?
Waking up, sleeping or going to sleep or trouble?
Waking up going to Roger watching on Facebook says he's listening to FHR or Stevens or Stevens in Stevens point it says.
But he's in Stevens point listening to FHR trivia.
You and I have been to FHR Wisconsin Rapids.
He says trouble sleeping leads to trouble waking up after finally getting to sleep.
That is true.
That's
Well, yeah,
up.
You could be, you know, you could be just a high roller at the craps table and not wanting to walk away.
Yes, I know.
I had I
Eight five five seven five two four eight four two.
What's worse, trouble sleeping or trouble waking up.
Christine in slinger, listening on WAUK says trouble sleeping is worse.
Also Tony listening in Madison on WMDX says trouble sleeping.
is much worse.
John, listening on WISS in Oshkosh says trouble sleeping for sure as that leads to waking up the next day.
Greg, a beautiful Genesee Depot, listening on WAUK says trouble sleeping is worse.
I worked third shift for 32 years.
I still can't sleep at night and I hate getting up in the morning.
Wow.
That's incredible.
All right, very good.
855-752-4842.
855-752-4842.
Ollie in the Northwoods.
Ollie, if you can make it quick, trouble sleeping or trouble waking up, what's worse?
Well, I have trouble sleeping, and in order to overcome the trouble waking up, I usually end up fighting it and making sure I stay awake all night if I have an early appointment.
Well, there you go.
All right.
Very good.
I appreciate the call.
All right.
Thank you so much.
Trigvie, I appreciate you sticking around an extra half an hour.
That was fun.
Got some got some good information out there.
And we did a little
All
Well, good.
So there's a couple.
Yeah, absolutely.
Trigvie also the senior advisor, Lincoln Project.
Thanks, my friend.
We'll talk to you soon.
Oh, see you guys.
All right.
Thank you very much.
Come on back.
We'll we'll talk perch and brackets on the other side.
Don't go anywhere
Welcome back to the Taliban show of the civic media radio network.
It is nine before the hour of two o'clock at the top of the hour.
CBS or ABC News, depending upon which of our great stations you're listening to across the civic media radio network, followed by a check of news in your local community, our great sports reporter, Mike Clemens.
Mike Clemens was on Pete Schwabba's show last night and was fantastic as always.
It was just a great, it was entertaining and informative to listen to Mike and Pete last night.
So enjoyed that.
So Mike Clemens will be in our weather forecast.
Don't forget wet weather moving across Wisconsin today.
Some places already receiving snow.
And as the afternoon and evening goes on, some places could have six to eight inches, say around Chippewa Falls area, and then south on Madison South and east of Madison in the middle part of the state, maybe four inches or so.
It depends on temperatures and how fast it all changes over.
But in any event, it's going to be wet, it's going to be slippery, and travel could get hazardous.
So be aware of that.
Temperatures will warm back to around 50 by the end of the week, so the snow will not last too long.
That is great.
And then after that, we got the Maggie Dawn show from two until four, Dom Selvia, four till six.
Pete Schwab, as we said, six until eight.
Now talk to me about this summer's because I thought after Schwab's show, it was Rick Smith and and then last night it was it was a native roots radio came on right after.
Is that normally them?
Have I have I been saying it wrong?
The schedules change or do we
I just want to make sure I'm saying it right understand Anyway, if at some point you'll hear Rick Smith across America and native roots radio with her friend Robert Pyle both great shows I just want to make sure that I'm I'm plugging them in the in the right way Very quickly.
We are maybe is it one more call on the Mary Tyler Moore show and TV programs that help propel women or their causes Ollie calling for the Northwoods Ollie.
Did you have a particular show you want to vote for?
Well, I actually liked Mama Family, which has been off of Tira Burnett, but I just wanted to suggest that since you are sort of tipping a hat to Mary Tyler Moore today, that when you leave today, you and your buddy there can also toss your hats in the air.
If only I had exactly, I would.
I don't have a hat with me right now.
It's in my
office.
I
have a baseball cap, but maybe I'll throw the papers
today.
All right.
Thanks, Ali.
I appreciate it.
855-752-4842, 855-752-4842.
Now this is a real time, this is a real time information.
This is fantastic.
Uh, our Casper, one of our engineers says nothing has changed.
It's native roots radio and then the ricksmith Joe.
All right, I'm not sure what happened.
I thought Rick Smith came on first and then I don't know.
I really should go to the meetings more often.
Or we have to get this a couple of things in quickly while Zombers has taken a call here.
According to CBS 58 in Milwaukee, this is great.
Kids from all over the region came to Milwaukee yesterday for a big engineering tournament in a swimming pool.
More than 160 middle school and high school students are competing in teams showing off their underwater engineering skills.
The Navy League's seventh annual Sea Perch Tournament brought students from Illinois and Wisconsin to the University of Wisconsin Milwaukee's campus said, quote, practical applications getting out of the classroom.
And who doesn't want to play with water?
said Eric Walbach, president of the Milwaukee Navy League.
Teams are competing with remotely operated vehicles to complete tasks underwater, such as opening a hatch, taking off an octopus, and putting fish into a basket.
They get basic skills, a basic skills kit, plus they can use $25 in additional parts of their choice.
Usually 3D printed parts are the big ones that they use it for.
Each team has to do three things.
One, earn points in the main mission course.
Two, move through rings in an obstacle course.
And finally, you have a presentation to professional engineers.
Well, how about that?
The top four teams from the competition will advance to the international tournament in Maryland this May.
The sea perch, it doesn't involve live perch, I don't believe, but these engineering skills and by golly, we need more engineers in the state.
of Wisconsin.
Isn't it cool?
I guess great.
And finally, a story about Cougars.
Cougars have been actually done.
Cougars have been on the endangered species list for 51 years, but they're slowly making a comeback.
Lone male Cougars have been seen in Wisconsin for the past 20 years.
But last week and the upper peninsula of Michigan, Cougar Cubs.
or confirmed by wildlife experts is the first evidence of the keystone species returning to the area in over 100 years.
If you want the full story, this is real.
Go to www.goodgoodgood.co.
Never heard of
know I clicked on it, make sure it's real.
It's real.
It's called real good news, not just feel good news.
So there you go.
Good good good.co and you can learn more information than all about them.
That's great The Cougars are making a comeback.
Yeah,
Back to my college days with Water Street and Plattville.
There were a few that prowled the streets But otherwise, no, there's truly a comeback.
Oh, that was a fun show today, Mr. Somers.
How about that?
she was really a groundbreaker in Hollywood in so very many ways.
We'll get to the brackets tomorrow.
Again, another first four set of games are coming up tonight.
And then the tournament gets underway in earnest tomorrow.
I'll share my bracket with you tomorrow.
How about it's already set.
There you can see it's already it's already done.
So there's no cheating on Todd's part.
And see what your brackets look like as well.
Luke Zombers Luke Zombers Luke.
Matthews is going to join us tomorrow as well.
And uh, come on back.
Stay tuned for making Dawn next, whatever your, by the way, thank you to Trigby Olson and Zomers and all of you for listening.
Whatever you're fighting for, whatever you believe in, do not give up.
Keep banging your drum.
See you tomorrow.
Thanks
everybody.
