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Good afternoon, everybody.
I'm Todd Albault, along with the outstanding producer, Mr. Aaron Zommers, on the board.
It is six past the hour of one o'clock.
Welcome to hour number two of the big program.
Appreciate you being here on Tuesday, March 18th, 2025.
It is a great day to be in Wisconsinite.
Beautiful weather, spring weather, a little overcast, sunpoken through in downtown Madison, the world headquarters here.
Zommers, great day to be alive.
The Pat Crite level of North News Radio and Trig V Olson, senior advisor at Lincoln Project will be here.
And who knows what else.
Work on a couple of things for this week involving movies.
So yeah, there's a little tease for you.
I want lots to get to including what's worse today a cable phone company dispute edition More news stories of course But I want to start off this hour.
I'm dressed mostly in black today for a reason for those watching on the stream YouTube Facebook and Twitter It is time for a memorial service in remembrance after 37 long
And glorious years together, I am sad to announce the passing of my CBS mug.
Yes, it happened after the show yesterday.
All right, we can bring that down.
It happened after the show yesterday.
I got this mug at the CBS store in Manhattan.
And as a senior in high school, my friend, Carrie Anderson, and I went out to see Garrison Keeler at Radio City Music Hall.
And I was working for CBS affiliate, WRCO, Richland Center at the time, now part of Civic Media.
And I got this mug and I used it.
Partner, every day I worked at WRCO.
I took it to college at WSUP.
Back to RCO.
I've just moved countless numbers of times.
It's been packed away, kept safe.
It came with me here to Civic Media when I came back to radio.
And it's been with me every, but yesterday it was sitting here on the counter and I had my hands full of stuff.
There was stuff on the counter next to the mug and I was talking to Zabers and I picked up my stuff and swung around and I knocked the cup off onto the carpeting where it met its untimely demise.
Yes.
It shattered.
This is bad luck.
We don't know what's gonna happen, but that was bad luck So yeah, I took a moment to to mourn and then and then I got on on eBay and I believe now I have found a replacement cup
Courtesy of eBay.
What was it?
I was 35 36 bucks something like that something like that.
So I've ordered it.
So when it when it comes, I will I will have a ceremonious unpacking here on the show for the replacement of our CBS long time CBS mug of 37 years.
But so today I'm using my not so old CBS this morning mug.
from the Charlie Rose or O'Donnell Gale King days, which you know, it's a fine mug.
Dave, just Dave says, my condolences and deepest sympathies, Todd.
I'm sorry for your loss.
Thank you.
Thank you.
My sister watching down in Texas with the, the, the matriarch of the Holly family, Lisa, third town there.
And she's, oh, no, I'm so sorry.
Look, it's a joke, everybody.
Oh, Tom and Ellie Tom says if that's not a sign of things to come, I don't know what is, right?
It was funny that that was zombers.
Both of our immediate reactions like, oh my God, that's bad luck.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
We're just obviously it's a little joke here.
It's just a cup of the material thing.
But it's one of those things that you never have something like that.
Somers, we've had a long time like that.
Just, you know, your life doesn't revolve around it, but it's just something that's consistent with you.
up there with it was
fun and I got a mug It was a really huge glass mug That was transparent and it was kind of like had the patterns of a grenade but inverted you know where it's got like bumps But they were it was the ridges that were pronounced bumps.
I loved that mug I used it a lot brought it to college.
I was washing it in the sink in the bathroom one day and Dropped it less than a centimeter
onto the, like just a little bump on the drain stopper for the sink and it shattered entirely.
And I was like, wow, that is unfortunate.
If you
Oh, well.
Who else here says, one listener at WMDX, bummer, one time someone I worked with accidentally broke my favorite coffee mug, sad day.
Yeah, such is life.
All right, much more important things to talk to you.
Thanks for humoring me there.
855-752-4842.
Before what's worse, I want to do this little quiz for you.
You've probably heard about measles, outbreaks happening in Texas and elsewhere around the country, outbreaks happening when not enough people get vaccinated.
The measles virus is super contagious and vaccination rates of 95%
is what it takes to prevent the disease from taking hold in a school or other community.
But with declining vaccination rates, the US overall has fallen below 95% to a 92.7% vaccination rate for measles.
It's most common for kids to be vaccinated for measles when they're first enrolling in school.
Now, here's your multiple choice quiz for today.
The question is about Wisconsin's.
measles vaccination rate for school kids.
So this is great because I don't know this.
I don't know this.
So we will see what there.
So here is the other quiz for you.
Wisconsin is a. At no risk for measles because our kids have the second highest vaccination rate in the country.
B. Safe for now because the vaccination rates for our kids is just above the 95 percent rate.
C. At a slight risk.
Because measles vaccinations are below 95% in some communities or D at high risk for measles because Wisconsin's vaccination rate is 49th of the 50 states Would you like to do any tries that Zalmers
Somebody let's see D
Yeah, we'll just get right to it.
Unfortunately, the answer is D. Children in Wisconsin have the second to worst vaccination rate for measles.
Only Alaska is worse.
That's according to Wisconsin Department of Health Services.
That is abysmal.
Wisconsin's rate is 84.8% well below the 95% rate needed to prevent an outbreak.
Many of us are vulnerable to an outbreak of measles.
measles is preventable by vaccinations.
But only if we achieve herd immunity when enough of the population either vaccinated against or is immune because they once had the disease.
When you get vaccinated, you helped protect infants.
Who can't get the vaccination until they are 12 months old?
And the few people who are unable to get a vaccination for health reasons.
Wisconsin wisely requires children enrolling in public or private school to show proof they have the required immunization.
The problem is lawmakers have made it too easy for parents to exempt their kids from vaccinations.
And that's why this is happening.
In Vernon and Clark counties, less than half
of children, a kindergarten age children have both recommended measles shots.
Say that again, in Vernon and Clark counties in Wisconsin, less than half of kindergarten age children have both the recommended measles shots.
If you're unsure about your own vaccination status, you can get a test that measures the level antibodies against disease in your blood.
Little factoid not what I wanted to pass along but important The bottom line folks get vaccinated get your kids vaccinated and know science has proven vaccinations do not cause autism period I've heard dr. Lierly talk about this several times on this network
Yeah, I would like to bring up our president in his Alzheimer's disease, which is apparent.
Because of his irrational behavior.
Look, I know people that have Alzheimer's and dementia and I'm not here, I'm not a doctor, I'm not going to diagnose.
I don't think that we have clear evidence that he has that specific disease.
I think certainly there is something wrong with the guy.
He has a lot of other mental health issues, I'm sure.
I don't know.
I mean, I don't know.
Clearly the guy is affected by something.
But I'm not a Dr. John, but I always appreciate listening.
And, you know, John comes from to us from the land of the mastodon out there in beautiful Boaz in Southwest Wisconsin.
Come on back.
We will take more of your calls.
Whizzler and our very own Jane McNair is on the line.
855-752-4842.
The Talal Ball Show.
The day after drinking to the Civic Media radio network.
I didn't drink that much.
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Welcome back to the Taliban show on the civic media radio network.
21 past the hour of one o'clock on Tuesday, March 18th, 2025, took a little measles quiz.
As Johnny Carson used to say, I, I did not know that.
According to the Wisconsin Department of Health Services, Wisconsin ranks second worst in the nation only above Alaska.
When it comes to
vaccination rates for measles.
Get your kids immunized.
That's what I say.
855-752-4842.
855-752-4842.
I only say it about 100 times a day.
Time now to go to our friend and colleague.
She has the fantastic matinee on air show every morning between 10 and noon, preceding us along with Greg Bach.
Jane, as the song says, what does Jane say?
Hello, my friend.
Jane?
I am good at what's yourself.
Well, that's always good to talk to you as well.
I was just thinking, Todd, when you were talking about the measles vaccine and no, measles vaccine does not cause autism, but it also reminded me
because it's five years ago today that the World Health Organization declared COVID a global pandemic, and it reminded me that vaccines also do not make you magnetic.
I would promise if I got, yes, if I got the COVID-19 vaccine, I would become magnetic.
That has still not happened.
I'm not happy about that.
I don't know what advantage it would give me were I magnetic, but I was told I would be magnetic and I am still waiting.
That's a great point.
You know, I thought maybe I'd be gonna have a more magnetic personality, but no, that didn't happen either.
And by the way, you guys did a great job this morning in all seriousness, you know, helping us not to forget what happened five years ago and basically the world shut down.
And I thought it was so well done, you know, reading these heartfelt texts and calls from people, healthcare workers that were there and that one nurse that you read that she just,
started and saw death all around her.
And I thought, yeah, you know, we forget this, right?
And we forget how the former and now current administration dealt with this and it ain't good.
No, and I really, I really believe, Todd, that we have kind of a collective amnesia about those years of the lockdown.
It was traumatizing in lots of different ways.
And again, nobody wants to think about that stuff.
But that's why I thought it was important at least this morning.
And I called it going down COVID memory lane because we forget.
We forget what happened.
We forget what was said.
We forget the ridiculous things that some people in that administration were suggesting that we could do in order to protect ourselves.
I was working for a different radio station at the time in the news department.
I did more stories trying to get people not to injure themselves by taking poison or bleach or horse dewormers and things like that because that was some of the stuff that was coming out.
Oh, and also, by the way, for the people, for the people who promised me I was going to become magnetic, I was also told that anyone who got the COVID-19 vaccine was going to be dead within three years.
for
still
Good news for us.
Good news for us, Jane.
And I also think as well, in addition to everything you just said, we also forget about all the heroes that emerged during that time, all the people that did save lives, the people who put their own lives at risk, who lived in their garages for weeks, if not months, to protect their own families so they could go help the rest of us.
And how quickly we turned on those people that we were originally applauding when they would finish their shift and dealing with freezers full of bodies because there wasn't anywhere to put them all.
Even grocery store workers who were considered essential.
There were all kinds of folks like that.
And then it seemed like within a year.
Now everyone in the healthcare became the enemy.
I don't understand where that where that flip came.
Absolutely, absolutely.
I know you've had Dr. Lyon on your show before and you guys have talked about this.
And I think, you know, regardless of how people voted the ballot box, I think the important thing is trust the science, get your kids immunized, and all of us should have our vaccinations up to date, because not only does it help us, it helps others as well.
It's what a small thing that we can do.
It's about all of us.
It's about protecting all of us.
And if you're going to get your information from anywhere, don't get it from your Facebook friends, cousins, dog walkers.
Okay.
Really?
That's all I ask.
All right.
Very good.
That's all I
Take care, my friend.
See you later.
Bye-bye.
The wonderful tale to Jane McNair of the McNair on air program every morning from
10 until noon, sorry, I forgot to schedule for a minute.
All right, we have lots of calls to get to, stay on the line.
Do not hang up, as Matt Flynn likes to say.
We'll take you in order that they are received.
Let's go to Dick in Madison at WMDX.
You wanted to talk about Trump and Putin quickly.
Well, real quickly, the way he's playing this whole thing, I mean, Putin looks at him much, I think, I'm gonna paraphrase Groucho Marx.
If he looks like an idiot and he acts like an idiot,
Don't let him tell you he's not an idiot because he's an idiot And that's exactly how he's acting with all of this.
Yeah, I mean the guy is completely out of control and I mean he's sold out He's just they're gonna divvy up this country to criminals.
Yeah, and they're gonna give them no security going forward
please
I just wanted to, I'm hoping James to listening, because I wanted to say that I'm sorry she's not magnetic, but at least she can.
I heard the other day on TV or on the radio that the doctor there said that she's golden.
So she may not
magnetic, but she's golden because she got her, because she did get her measles shot and she had measles.
So now she's golden.
I'm sure Jane's still listening.
Well, Jane is always golden.
She is rock solid broadcasting gold.
Thank you very much, Ollie.
Thank you, Jane.
Come on back.
Stay on the line.
If you're there, we'll take your calls and we come back right now.
A newest sports and weather update.
It's the title of our show.
What's worse is next on the Civic Media Radio
Network.
Welcome back to the show.
It's been one of those days.
It's a great show, but it's just, you know, it's, uh, people have feelings.
That's, that's great.
Uh, I said, yes, my long time 37 years CBS mug broke yesterday.
I think it's thrown off the balance of the force a little bit.
Lots to get to this half hour.
Don't go anywhere.
We will get to a phone company versus cable company edition of what's worse.
Lots of phone calls.
Let's get to it.
If you can make it brief, please.
We're up against the clock.
Let's go to Andy in beautiful Denmark.
Not the country of Denmark, which is fantastic, but the city of Denmark and Wisconsin, just south of Green Bay.
Andy in Denmark.
What do you want to talk about, Andy?
Hi, I was wondering why it seems everybody's always pointing their finger at vaccinations.
We have a big question mark with PFAS in our drinking water and nobody's ever pointing their finger at that.
Well, I've certainly spoken about PFAS in drinking water and that's why we have to do more to protect our drinking water.
Certainly an important issue as well, and I hope that the governor and the Republican legislature could get their act together and settle on a legislation to address the PFAS in Wisconsin, but certainly important.
So I appreciate you raising it.
Thank you so very much.
8-5-5-7-5-2-4-2.
Tom in Madison on AU, pardon me, on the WMDX.
Tom, thanks for calling and what do you got?
Yeah, you bet.
I was really shocked about the vaccination rate, so I'm driving to a gig right now, and I got on the phone and I called, let's see, Tammy Baldwin, Mark Pokan, Tom Tiffany, a couple other Republicans, and as Patton said, I got this information from Civic Media.
Also, Mark Pokan's staffer said, Mark Pokan's staffer was really surprised.
She said, I did not know that.
And she started writing stuff down.
And I will definitely forward this to Mark.
And I'm just like, you know, it took me like 10 minutes to make five phone calls.
So I hope everybody's doing that, especially before the election, because it really matters.
That's action.
That's action right there and appreciate that.
I would also encourage not just our federal elected officials, but call state elected officials too, because the statistic I gave you from Wisconsin Department of Health Services that Wisconsin is the second worst vaccination rate for measles in the country behind only Alaska.
And again, the first line of defense I think would have a better chance of passing is contacting your state senator, your state representative and saying,
Look, we, we need to make it, have to have laws on the books in Wisconsin so it's not so easy to just opt out of vaccinations here in the, in the state of Wisconsin.
Great job, Tom.
Appreciate you mentioning us.
And, and, uh, yeah, I think Congressman Pockeyn's office is a great example of when you call in, you are listened to.
855-752-4842.
Ted in beautiful Appleton, Wisconsin, home of Harry Houdini.
Ted, thanks for calling in.
We'll see you.
Yeah, hi, Todd.
Sorry about leaving before I had planes on the tarmac moving.
It's all good.
You're up
Yeah, with, you know, draft coming up and me being 61 and having heart issues.
I was worried about the measles stuff.
So I checked with my provider and they told me to come in and get a blood
test.
Because I don't remember if I had the measles or if I ever had the shot.
You know, if I did, it was really young.
And I'm immune.
So I must have either had it or I got the vaccination back way back when.
So simple blood test, you can find out if you're concerned about the measles and stuff.
So
I think that's fantastic.
And you're right.
I mean, it is a simple blood test and
Better to be safe for sorry if you don't know your immunization record, but certainly all of us should know and all of us be vaccinated against measles if at all possible.
Appreciate your call and intent.
Appreciate your listenership up there in beautiful Appleton, Wisconsin, and have a great day at the airport up there.
I also want to mention before I forget again that I mentioned earlier, what can we do?
One of these things that we can do right now in America, in Wisconsin, is to call our legislators like Tom has done.
You can also vote.
VOTE, that's what I was alluding to earlier, starts at the end of E, VOTE, vote.
We have a major election coming up here two weeks from today on April 1st.
No fooling.
two big races on the board Supreme Court between Susan Crawford and Brad Schimmel and Then you've got your DPI race Department of Public Instruction So also a big race there Early voting starts today So if is our friend Luke Mathers likes to say have a plan to be a voter Know what you're gonna do and maybe you say well, I might be out of town
on April 1st maybe maybe you do April 1st pranks on your friends you're going to travel around then make a plan to be a voter and you could do that by starting today early voting in person across wisconsin you can go to myvote.wi.gov if you're not sure if you're registered or not sure where your polling place is remember early voting
Usually you have to go to an appointed place or to your clerk's office in rural areas.
That might mean making an appointment to go see a rural clerk.
But you can vote early, in person, starts today.
And then on election day proper, polls open at 7 a.m.
and close at 8 p.m.
You can register at the polls.
Don't forget in Wisconsin you can do same-day registration.
But again, if you want to find out if you're registered and do it in advance or find out where your local polling place is, go to myvote.wi.gov, myvote.wi.gov and vote today.
Be a voter.
Lots of local races on the ballot, referendums as well, all very important.
Be a voter.
All right, it is 41 minutes past the hour of one o'clock time once again for what's worse.
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All right.
Today's edition.
Timely, timely indeed.
Because a lot of people from March Madness are wanting to watch all the big games.
And sometimes you say, well, you know, I don't have the larger sports package, but maybe for March Madness, I'll do it.
I know other people are, you know, sometimes spring good phone deals.
But it's the companies we deal with so today what's worse the phone company or the cable company 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 what's worse phone company or cable company I Definitely have feelings
Oh, absolutely Yeah, so you can have everything through them if you want what recommended but if you want to sure go ahead eight five five seven five two four eight four two eight five five seven five two four eight four two
Got to beautiful richland center richland county out there and whistler listing on wrce whistler phone companies or cable companies.
What's worse?
I'll tell you what with the situation I'm in I get both from one company
like being a leader.
I'm balanced I would have to say two separate hours would be worse than one
Yeah, all right.
It's right there Right there, you know,
Thanks.
I appreciate it whistler Thanks so much eight five five seven five two four eight four two What's worse the phone company or the cable company eight five five seven five two four eight four two Tom listening in Florida Texan.
What's a phone company?
That's a good, yeah, right?
I mean, for people of a certain age, we remember when everybody had a landline.
And so I think what we're talking about here more is a cell phone company, a cell phone company or a cable company.
cell
One in the same time.
I tend to agree.
Yeah, absolutely.
Brian and Milwaukee listening in W. A. U. K. says both are just as bad.
Cable is worse though.
They will only give you the best deals with a package and no opinion otherwise.
Real option otherwise.
Pardon me.
Linda in Milton listening on W. M. D. X says I have no trouble with my phone company, but cable is the worst.
There you go.
eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two.
Eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two.
Yeah.
I mean, for me, it's just not even close.
It's hands down.
For those that weren't around or didn't don't remember, last year I had about a spectrum over several months in which I went through nine different cable guys.
Nine.
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine.
Until I finally got a, one of the big managers here in Madison and basically he gave up on me and wouldn't call me back.
I won't even go into the details.
It's a long story because it's it's it's internet and cable together.
Now I don't get mom set up.
She's got their internet, but now she's on the on the YouTube TV.
So a lot of people now are they still have internet, but they're streaming their cable services.
A lot of people have cut the cord, so to speak on on cable.
What's worse, phone company or cable company?
855-752-4842, 855-752-4842.
Linda in Atkins or, all right, watching on, oh, Linda on Facebook says, TDS is the worst company I've ever dealt with.
I now have a spectrum.
That's very specific.
People see, people have feelings on this.
The thing that I hate whether it's intentional or not cable and phone companies both lie to you Constantly and then just raise the prices for no reason and a lot of the times you can get them lowered back down at least somewhat by calling and hanging on the customer service line for an hour.
All right, come on back.
We'll wrap things up mercifully after this.
You're listening to the Sad Hall Hall Show on the Civic Media Radio Network.
Welcome back to the title of all show in the civic media ready to work where it is nine before the hour of two o'clock at the top of the hour ABC or CBS News depending upon which of our fine stations you're listening to and then sports update with our great sports reporter Mike Clemens weather for my great weather team and then the fantastic Maggie Dawn with the Maggie Dawn show every afternoon from two until four followed by Dom Selvia, Peach, Wabba, Rick Smith and
Robert Pilot with Native Roots Radio, a great lineup here at Civic Media.
Zomers is safe.
I don't know what's going on during the break here.
The full moon was last week.
I nearly lost my other CBS mug during the break.
I knocked over my reusable.
clean canteen container.
There's still a coffee in it.
And I caught my other coffee mug before it fell off the off the table.
What's going on, Zomers?
I don't know.
Two in a row would have been catastrophic.
I mean, in the two and a half years we've been doing this show, I've never done that.
And now in nearly two days in a row.
Whoo boy.
Howdy.
What a what a day what a day I think today is a good day just to
Chill after the show.
I think so.
I think so too.
All right.
Let's get to a little this and that before we get out of here See if I can not knock knock knock knock anything else over before the end of the show By the way, thank you for all the calls on on what's worse Jack and Mary Max's the cable company is worse in my opinion dozens of channels are useless That you ask for whether you at want them or not.
I haven't had cable in years since before COVID didn't even get it then
Jack and Merrimack.
I do agree.
I think cable companies are worse.
Me too.
All right.
I want to give you this quickly.
This is from Axios.
Articles about the renowned Native American Code Talkers have disappeared from some military websites with several broken ULRs now labeled quote DEI unquote.
Why it matters.
From 1942 to 1945, the Navajo Code Talkers were instrumental in every major Marine Corps operation in the Pacific Theater of World War II.
They were critical to securing America's victory at Iwo Jima.
Driving the news, Axios identified at least 10 articles mentioning the Code Talkers that had disappeared
from the U.S.
Army and Department of Defense websites as of yesterday.
The Defense Department's URLs, that's basically the line that you click on to go to the website, were amended with the letters DEI, suggesting they were removed following President Trump's executive order ending federal diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives.
The
Internet archives show the deleted Army pages were live as recently as November, with many visible until February or March of this year.
None are shown with air messages until Trump took office.
Asked about the missing pages, Pentagon Press Secretary John Yulot replied in a statement, quote, as Secretary Hegseth has said, DEI is dead at the Department of Defense.
We are pleased by the rapid compliance across the department with the directive removing DEI content from all platforms, unquote.
So they don't deny it.
Right.
As well as...
Uh, I believe the highest military black officer in american military to ever get the uh, one of the prestigious medals He's also been taken off Of of history in america's military According to axios in both world wars the military deployed units that used indigenous american languages to secretly transmit information in pivotal battles Choctaw soldiers, uh confounded german troops during world war one's deadly offensive
At Utah Beach, Comanche troops created terms that didn't exist in the language.
Bombers were pregnant airplanes, tanks or turtles, and Adolf Hitler was possible taboo.
Crazy white man.
Code talkers were sent to North Africa.
After 16% of the tribe's Iowa population enlisted during World War Two.
As of yesterday, the word, I'm just gonna.
I'm not gonna try to pronounce it.
I need Robert Pilot here.
M-E-S-K-W-A-K-I no longer appeared on DoD's website.
The Navajo Code Talkers rapidly and meticulously shared hundreds of messages in the complex language, often during intense battles, making them, the enemies couldn't understand them and courage under fire.
At Iwo Jima, six Code Talkers sent more than 800 messages.
without error.
They likely saved countless American and allied lives by using languages the US government had tried for generations to eliminate.
The Navajo Code Talkers now eliminated from Department of Defense websites and history by Donald Trump because he thinks it's woke and because he thinks it's quote unquote, DEI.
What a guy.
Yeah, so on that happy note, I look, I think it's just another reason why we have to think to ourselves as our friend, Trivio Olsen, who will be on the show tomorrow says, if that happens to something that you cared about, how would you feel about it?
We're all on this together, whether we like it or not, friends and neighbors, and we have to start treating each other that way.
Thanks for being with us.
Be here tomorrow.
Trivia Olsen.
Packed quite low.
Until then, whenever you're fighting for whatever you believe in, do not give up.
Keep banging your drum.
See you tomorrow.
Thank you.
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