Pizzas vs Tomato Pies (Hour 2)

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Pizzas vs Tomato Pies (Hour 2)

The Todd Allbaugh Show · Thu Mar 13, 2025

Live from the Civic Media World headquarters in Madison, Wisconsin, it's the Todd Alba show.

And now, pursuing truth wherever it may lead, here's your host, Todd Alba.

Todd Allbaugh

Across Wisconsin on the Civic Media radio network.

and streaming worldwide on the Civic Media app.

Good afternoon, everybody.

I'm Tom Albaugh along with Mr. Aaron Zommers, our fantastic producer and engineer on the board.

It is six past the hour of one o'clock.

Welcome to hour number two of the big program.

It is Thursday, March 13th, 2025.

It is a great day to be Wisconsinite.

It is a sunny day, a warm day.

Mr. Zommers, I can feel that it is truly short sweater.

Temperature is going to be up into the seventies tomorrow.

for a couple days.

Yes, and then winter returns by Sunday.

Second, third, fourth winter.

Right.

But in all seriousness, just for a second, if you live in Wisconsin, particularly say between La Crosse and Eau Claire, and then draw a line kind of over and down to Tomah, and then over to Portage, and then down to Racine Kenosha, that

I'm very broadly speaking Southwest part of the state.

I know people in Madison wouldn't say they're Southwest, but but

comparatively

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yeah, but but the Southwest portion of the state Third maybe is a way to say it Maybe some severe weather tomorrow night.

So just be aware of that and what makes it kind of scary or scarier

is that the meteorologists expect the worst of the severe weather tomorrow evening to come in after sunset.

And so that's what it gets dangerous and because it's darker out, obviously.

And so dark out, darker or darker.

And so people and there is some risk of tornadic activity.

It sounds like most of the concern is for severe thunderstorms, not a lot of rain in this system because it's going to be so fast moving.

But it's the wind.

And so both straight line winds and also a possibility keyword possibility for tornadic activity.

So just keep an eye to the sky, keep an eye to the radio and your other weather sources because could get kind of rough going for tomorrow.

May want to plan not driving too late.

Todd Allbaugh

Yep.

Yeah, exactly.

So that's just but enjoy the nice weather today.

Enjoy it during the day tomorrow.

Get out there.

But yes, temperature is going to plummet from seventies tomorrow into the thirties by Sunday afternoon.

A bit chillier, but chillier.

Right now, we are not on every station across the civic media-ready network that we're normally on because Wisconsin men's basketball pregame show is underway.

The Badgers are playing in the Big Ten tournament.

Big game coming up here in about a half an hour.

So we will be ending our show today at 130 and Enjoy the music for the last half.

We can't do that.

Yeah, no,

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we're not gonna do that.

Oh, we're not doing that today But no and some of our stations across the network right now doing the pregame show for the Wisconsin Badger basketball game They are taking on the Northwestern Wildcats

and it'll be shown on the Big Ten Network, but it's going to be aired for free across many of our Civic Media stations.

You can find those stations via the Civic Media app, which you can download for free.

So stick around.

We're going to play what's worse and have some great fun here in this hour on some of our stations.

On other stations, you can catch Matt LePay, Brian Butch, and Wisconsin taking on Northwestern.

Should be a good game.

Northwestern beat Minnesota yesterday afternoon, kind of a little mild upset of sorts there.

Northwestern was ranked number 13, Minnesota 12, coming into the tournament in the tournament bracket, not overall, of course, Wisconsin, the number five seed in the Big 10 tournament.

If they win today, the Badgers, they would take on UCLA tomorrow.

So we'll see one game at a time But right first of all the Badgers taking on Northwestern at the bottom of this hour on some of our station We'll kind of give you little updates as the show goes along as well But right now at ten minutes past the hour one o'clock time once again for what's worse?

No prizes

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to give away no money involved, but it is your opportunity to have your voices heard

Normally, I say across all 11 stations in the Civic Media Ready Network, but today, you know, a third of them, or maybe two thirds of them, something like that, right?

Because of Badger basketball.

But nonetheless, nonetheless, a great opportunity to have your voice heard.

And this is timely, timely indeed, as Mike Lucas is fond of saying, because, as we said,

Lots of basketball it is the season for tournament college basketball that the conference tournaments going on right now the Badgers playing Northwestern at the bottom of the hour and then selection Sunday this coming Sunday on CBS Always one of my favorite things gonna seem a lot different this year without the legendary Greg Gumbel after his passing But nonetheless a great a great event selection Sunday will find out where the Wisconsin Badgers rank

in the final tournament seating and where they will play in the first two rounds, or if they get to two rounds, first two games.

There's a chance they could still play the Pfizer form in Milwaukee next Friday.

But part of that might depend on the outcome of today and the rest of the Big Ten tournament.

The point is, this time of year, Zomers, lots of people order the pizza.

They're wanting pizza this time of year because there's no better food to eat, I don't think, during a basketball game than pizza.

So directly from the home office, as they say, what's worse, pizza with sauce or pizza with no sauce?

Pizza with sauce or pizza with no sauce?

855-752-4842, 855-752-4842.

I

don't know that I've ever had pizza without sauce, except for...

one time when it was an accident, they didn't put sauce on it and I got my money back.

Todd Allbaugh

Well, this brings up an interesting point and the person who normally writes these, our co-executive producer, CP, and he is traveling right now.

He's an important guy who goes all over the country.

And so I put a text into him.

I said, if you have a minute, can you call in and explain pizza?

with no sauce or pizza with sauce.

He says I'm traveling, but he sent me an eight second voice message.

Now I am not listening to this.

Do we play it without listening to it on the air or do we not?

We have

a

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dumb button.

I'm just going to say you've got your finger on the dumb button and also there's very high level meetings right now at Civic Media and everybody in leadership is at lunch.

And so nobody's listening to us.

So fine.

Let's do it.

All right.

So

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here we go.

Here is the unedited version of CP on on pizza with sauce and pizza with no sauce.

Here we go.

All right.

Let's let's let's let's try this again.

I got to go back here.

Got to go back.

But try to hear CP.

Here we go.

Pizza with sauce or pizza without sauce, basically.

Believe it or not, some people don't like pizza sauce.

I guess that's true.

I know some people just know a

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lot.

I asked him to explain what does it mean pizza with sauce and pizza with no sauce and he says pizza with sauce, pizza with no sauce.

Believe it or not, some people don't like sauce.

You know, it is that simple.

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Who doesn't like sauce?

I know some people who it's not their favorite part.

Like they would rather just have a lot of cheese, but I think I know more people who would rather be swimming in sauce.

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Go to Cindy listening in beautiful Appleton, Cindy, pizza with sauce or pizza with no sauce.

What's worse?

Pizza with no sauce, what's the point?

Right?

Yeah, it's gotta have lots and lots of sauce.

I agree with you 100%.

Not even close for me.

I've never heard how can you even make a pizza with no sauce?

Isn't that just breadsticks?

Like

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triangular breadsticks?

I mean, Cindy, serious question.

Cindy, have you ever gone to a place and even seen people order pizza with no sauce?

Hello?

No, no.

Thanks, Cindy.

I appreciate it.

People, CP, Cindy, people have very, very few words today.

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Let's go down a beautiful walkie-shaw on WA UK Rick listening in walkie-shaw Rick pizza with sauce pizza with no sauce.

What's worse?

Well, I'll tell you a fact I was married to a Sicilian and it's pizza

with sauce I like because one time she made me a pizza late at night and she didn't have the stuff and she put it on a pancake mix.

Really?

I had to turn it down.

I couldn't eat it.

Wow.

Wow.

It's a true story and texts with no sauce are better.

Todd Allbaugh

I appreciate it, Rick.

Thank you so very much.

Now, right there, if you've got a wife who's a Sicilian, I'm surprised she even used a pancake batter, I guess in a pinch.

Maybe

she just thought, I can do this.

I'm good enough with this.

I'll make it work.

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But to have your husband turn it down.

Must be a low

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blow.

Late at night.

And and get no sauce 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 pizza

with sauce or pizza with no sauce Dave in New Berlin texting saying pizza with no sauce isn't pizza.

It's a salad on a piece of bread That's a good point

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now For those watching on the stream and we have a lot of folks watching on the stream today We appreciate that largely because of Dan Schaefer and Dan Jacobs, of course

The photo, the picture we have on the screen, on streaming, on Facebook and YouTube and Twitter and the like.

The pizza with the sauce looks like a great pizza, a typical pizza.

The one on the right, the picture for no sauce, it looks like it's a white sauce or a cheese sauce on the bottom.

It's hard to tell if it has sauce or if it's just melted cheese.

Right.

855-752-4842, 855-752-4842.

We go down to beautiful Green County and the city of Monroe.

Monroe that is Angie Monroe Angie pizza with sauce pizza with no sauce what's worse

um actually i'm in between because sometimes the sauce isn't very good

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um

so it just depends on your sauce and i would rather do no sauce and just do a little garlic on it

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and

you can make flavor without having sauce right um

on your bread stick.

So as long as you have flavor on your bread stick, I mean, just put garlic on it and put the tomatoes on it.

And you don't have to do all the red stuff because some places, like my heart, I get, now that I'm older, I get heartburn really bad.

So yeah, I get my, yeah,

it's

tricky.

And as long as it's got no preservatives, which actually Casey's.

doesn't have all the crap in it because I don't get heartburn from them.

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So yeah.

I was just down and I was I was just down in Monroe last week and my friend's curtain force and I we ordered a Vince's pizza.

You ever have a pizza at Vince's in Monroe?

No, she's gone.

Right.

Very good.

You you cut it off.

We'll find out if you're in Monroe.

Check out Vince's pizza.

They got great pizza.

Great sauce.

Come on back.

It's the almost showing some obedience.

I think we're just about ready to build the perfect pizza.

Give me pizza!

P-I-G-V-A!

Give me pizza!

P-I-G-V-A!

Now it's feeling kind of hungry.

Todd Allbaugh

Welcome back to Tahleball's show on the Civic Media Ready Network, 21 past the hour of 1 o'clock Thursday, March 13th.

Thomas,

where'd you find that?

I was thinking, what songs do I know about pizza?

And I remembered the Mary Kate and Ashley show.

Just a show that my sister's watched when I was younger and I remember pizza and I was like, I think that's a song and looked it up and yeah, good.

It's not good.

Todd Allbaugh

No, but it says pizza.

That's what we're doing right now.

Welcome back.

Our daily segment called What's Worse, where we ask you the listening and viewer audience obscure questions and you tell us what's worse.

Today's edition, pizza with sauce or pizza.

with no sauce.

What's worse?

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It'll come up, little CM logo, click on that, takes less than a minute.

It is free, gratis, sero, no dinero, not a dime, doesn't cost anything.

It's what Gale King at CBS calls a deal.

The Civic Media app, you can listen to all of our great programming and text in.

And you'll want to do this now.

Now, as I said before, the entire leadership team at Civic Media.

All the decision makers, all the bosses, all the supervisors are gone right now.

It's a desert in here.

It's me and Zomers.

And that's it.

And so I'm that I'm not 100% sure whether I was supposed to say this or not.

But nobody's listening from leadership.

So they don't care.

They won't find out.

There's a contest coming up.

Oh, a text to win contest.

And let me tell you, it's spectacular.

The grand prize.

I tell you what it is, but they do have it.

I think the attorneys are still listening in their earpiece.

So I can't tell you what the grand prize is, but it's going to be phenomenal.

So download the Civic Media app not just to play our little goofy game every day was worse, but as and more importantly, for our upcoming text win contest, because you want to be all ready.

for that.

What's worse, eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two.

Let's go to Kurt in Waukesha, listening on W. A. U. K. Kurt pizza with sauce pizza with no sauce.

What's worse?

Well, first I'll say I have worked in the pizza industry for about 20 years.

So definitely with sauce.

Extra

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sauce.

So with sauce is better.

So no sauce is is worse.

That is focaccia.

Todd Allbaugh

All right, this is fantastic that you have worked in the pizza industry It had do you get requests from people?

I'm asking this seriously.

Are there people that say no sauce?

We get it occasionally because of Acid complaints or you know stomach complaints

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really

so we will get it occasionally

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Boy,

I we usually advise you know because they do like the sauce that if you've ever heard of like the pinza

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Okay

bread, which is a little bit less diabetic and very good.

It has usually a different sauce that's sweeter.

That's not as acidic.

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Really?

All right.

This is, this is, I love it.

I love this.

I appreciate you listening and calling in with real pizza knowledge.

So thank you, Kurt.

Thank you very much and have a great day down there in beautiful Waukesha.

There you go from a pizza expert.

It actually does occur.

Pizza with no sauce, 855-752-4842.

Matthew on the text line, brand new text from the nominee falls.

We appreciate that, Matthew.

Thanks for listening.

He says, is the grand prize in the Texas Wind upcoming contest, pizza with no sauce?

No, no, it is not.

I promise you, it's a lot better than that.

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It's a lot better than that.

855-752-4842.

We go to the Northwoods, Ollie in the Northwoods.

Ollie, what's worse, pizza with sauce or pizza with no sauce?

Well, I love pizza with sauce, but my granddaughter insists on ordering a pizza with no sauce and There's a place in Spooner, Wisconsin that sells that I believe they call it cheese fries So basically the pizza crust just loaded with cheese and

and a little bit of garlic and stuff, and that's the way she goes,

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though.

Wow.

All right.

I'm learning every minute, and I love every minute of it.

Thanks, Ollie.

I appreciate that.

Plus, I'm sure there are people with allergies.

There's always going to be things that sound weird to everybody else, but that they have to eat for dietary reasons.

Todd Allbaugh

I think what's emerging here, Zombers, and correct me if you think I'm wrong, what's emerging here is this is not a listed menu item or something that's normally done, but it occurs occasionally.

That's maybe why I haven't heard of this before.

Although, Tyler in Columbia County just texted in saying, pizza with red sauce is worse.

But if there's Alfredo or cheese sauce, I'll take that over no sauce.

Todd Allbaugh

Really?

All

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right.

Well, I've seen that,

right?

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I mean...

You know our friends Ian's pizza up here where Zomers and I eat about every eight days There's only

seven days a

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week And they're fantastic They have the macaron the mac and cheese pizza and they also have a an Alfred chicken Alfredo pizza So yeah, you have you have different sauces But the question right now is what's worse pizza with sauce any kind or pizza with no sauce 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2

eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two.

Steve in Milwaukee says, with sauce, unless you have Papa Murphy's Mediterranean chicken pizza, that is good without sauce.

That's

very specific.

Most of the time that no sauce is worse, but sometimes it works.

Sometimes it works.

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What else do we have here?

We have Jules listing on WXCO up a beautiful wasau says, isn't no sauce pizza fries?

Well, that's a good question as well.

Uh, pizza with sauce or pizza with no sauce?

I'm going to have to go with the majority here and say that pizza with no sauce is worse.

If you're still calling it pizza, right?

If you're saying it's breadsticks or pizza fries or something like that, that's a different, a different thing.

And if, but if it's just pizza that has no sauce and you're not intending to dip it in sauce, then that's worse.

Yeah.

I mean,

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I, I basically, I, I'm just going to cut right to the chase pizza with no sauce is worse.

period because I have one of our earlier callers.

I mean, I think it was Angie or somebody or Cindy, who doesn't matter.

Whatever callers they're saying that not just sauce, but I want like lots of sauce on my pizza.

I mean,

to me,

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to me, the tomato and and all the ingredients in that sauce, it makes all the difference in the world.

I like a crispy crust with I like I like a good

quarter to a half inch between the crust and the toppings of just sauce and

crust.

That's just kind of

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crispy like that.

I love that.

And so I absolutely think no sauce is worse.

I wouldn't eat a pizza with no sauce.

It's not pizza without sauce.

No, not

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really.

I mean, and again, I come from the old school, back in Richland Center, where you go buy your Chef Boy R.D.

pizza, and that's just crust and the canned sauce.

I know it's cheap and commercial, but the taste of that is just, and you put ground beef and green olives and some cheese.

That's Richland Center pizza right there, my friends.

All right, come on back.

We have a news, weather and sports update, and more fun and games.

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Number.

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Pizza time.

Having fun doing it.

Welcome back to title ball show on the civic media ready network.

Glad to have you along.

Thirty four minutes now past the hour.

One o'clock on Thursday, March 13th, twenty twenty five.

What a beautiful day.

Zomers, we we forgot to check.

How's the what's the street cam looking like?

We check out here the quarter of Fairchild and State Street in downtown Madison.

Look at that.

Oh, hang on.

I'm going to adjust the camera.

Give us a little music here, Zomers.

And we'll walk.

Currently, the street cam is pointed a little bit too high.

You see more of the sky than anything else.

Todd is adjusting it.

You can see

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the street, plenty of cars crossing.

That's a lot better.

Dan Schaefer and Dan Jacobs brought a lot of their followers along today and we appreciate that.

So here now for those that might be watching, this is a bonus for those that, if you, if you think, well, sometimes Todd pushed me to sleep.

He wouldn't be the first one.

And so we need something to visually stimulate us during the show.

We'll just check us out on Facebook, YouTube and what used to be Twitter.

The old x-factor now and we brought we give you the stream the visuals every day and you can check us out there either at the Civic Media or at the Todd all ball show or just all ball show ALL BA UGH Glad to have you along and you can see look at that.

It's a Delivery truck right now somebody other some people did some shopping They're about to cross the street right there by the ovager center.

It's a beautiful day in downtown Madison

You know, talking about visual stimulation, maybe one of these days, I'll start playing Minecraft and just put it on one of the screens like they do on some TikToks and stuff.

We're just maximum overstimulating visuals.

Too many things going on.

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Glad to have you along at 36 past the hour of one o'clock.

One of our listeners from WMDX here in Madison texting in a brand new texture.

We appreciate that as always.

I said, what happened?

I didn't hear what's worse.

Well, a little late to the party, but that's OK.

We'll repeat it.

Are what's worse today involved pizza?

What's worse pizza with sauce or pizza without sauce?

Sherry and Horicon, by the way, listening on MDX says, I like sauce.

And really, who doesn't?

Well, I guess there are some people.

And so it was great.

We had Kurt calling in, who is an entrepreneur, a pizza maker, a pizza owner.

who's been in the pizza business like 20 plus years, and he's telling us that occasionally some people for whatever reason, digestive or otherwise, they order their pizza without sauce.

So it is a thing, but I just prefer pizza with sauce.

Yeah, me too.

So I appreciate everybody calling and we do that each and every day in our number two here on the show, asking you the less important questions about what's worse.

Gotta have some fun.

every day as well.

Don't forget, if you're tuning in across the Civic Media Radio Network, looking for the Wisconsin Badger basketball game, it is playing right now on some of our network stations that include the Badger Radio Network, Matt LePay and Brian Butch Wisconsin just underway now against Northwestern.

You can hear those games via the Civic Media Radio Network if it is not playing in your area.

But we hope you stay with us as well.

Have a little fun here as well.

Ollie in Northwood's calling back.

Let's go to Ollie quickly 855-752-4842.

Ollie, what have you got for us?

Well, I have a burning question actually.

Todd Allbaugh

Really?

All right.

I don't know if it's on one of the Civic Media channels.

They do a commercial for a tomato pie.

Could you explain that to me?

It's been killing me ever since the first time I heard it.

Is that a real pizza or tomatoes?

Todd Allbaugh

All right, like a commercial for one of our sponsors?

Yes, it's a place I believe in Madison.

You have dough boys, and then you have another one that's called tomato pie.

Yeah, it's Salvatore's tomato pies.

It's a pizza place.

Todd Allbaugh

Oh, got it.

I understand now.

I've eaten at Salvatore's many times.

I have a couple of locations here in Madison.

It's a great place.

I'm not just saying that because they sponsor.

It's a great place.

And I think maybe the difference is a tomato pie might be maybe more well-known as deep dish.

or it's not the thin crust, it's a deeper dish.

And instead of just having the tomato sauce, they might have actually kind of chunks of cooked tomatoes and more tomato-y in it and layers of cheese.

So it's more like a pie rather than a thin pizza.

Well, that's what I was wondering if it was the crust with tomatoes on it instead of tomato sauce.

Todd Allbaugh

I think there's

both.

Oh, kiddo.

Todd Allbaugh

Well, that's a great question.

Quite a question.

I appreciate it.

And timely indeed, given today's what's worse.

So I appreciate you listening.

I appreciate you picking up on that sponsorship.

And yeah, Salvador's Tomato Pies here in the Madison area, a great business.

We appreciate them being a sponsor and even better, it is a legit great pizza.

So thanks, Ollie.

Appreciate you calling in.

Have you been to Salvador's?

I only have once, but it was very good.

Yeah,

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it's absolutely fantastic.

Now, somebody, somebody on MDX says, what's not true?

Somebody just texted and said, not true.

What does that, what does that mean?

I

don't

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know.

All right.

Well, if, if we have a, if they want to explain themselves or call in, we'll, we'll take the call.

I think sometimes people just try to jerk around, you know, it's just like throw me off.

Anyway, let's talk, let's talk a little bit what's going on in the national scene here today.

Lots of local news in the first hour and we love that.

But let's take a little bit look what's going on around the country as well.

The new Musk watch doge doggy tracker.

I just like calling it doggy instead of doge shows savings under Elon Musk's reign of error.

I like that have been overstated by at least 92 percent as Maxwell smart once said and get smart missed it.

by that much.

So this is great.

There's something called the Musk watch doze tracker.

And it thought they find out now that the savings that Musk and Trump keep talking about has been overstated by at least 92 percent.

That's fantastic.

Musk is claiming he's saving taxpayers four billion dollars with a B.

per day by selling property, firing workers, rooting out waste, and canceling contracts, leases, and grants.

Here's the problem.

There is next to no detail or documentation to back up purported savings.

Well, that can be a problem.

I mean, back in school, my teachers used to say, show your work.

The documentation that does exist

Shows gross overstatement of potential savings to taxpayers The musk watch doge tracker and if you want to don't take Todd's word for it check it out yourself Doge DO GE DOG isn't gross II Dot musk watch Dot com doge dot musk watch dot com

It shows claimed cuts versus verifiable cuts.

The tracker also lets you zero in on terminated contracts by location and by agency.

The tracker even comes with a caveat that most savings claimed by Doge may be illusion because of illegal withholding of funds appropriated by Congress.

So there you go.

You know, talk about keeping us honest, keeping folks honest.

Check it out.

Doge.muskwatch.com.

Doge.muskwatch.com.

Not must watches and must watch TV.

Muskwatch.com.

It's very different when you actually look at the facts and how the numbers line up than what Trump and Musk are claiming.

And now there's this

As we said earlier in the hour, breaking news from CBS and other places that a judge today has temporarily at least reinstated several of these laid off slash fired employees at many of these federal agencies.

But that's just, I mean, at some point people are human, right?

So if you have or had one of these jobs, told you are fired, you file for unemployment, you're looking for new employment, now they say come back.

It's only temporary.

Who wants to be jerked around like that?

Just from a mental health standpoint.

Do I have a job?

Do I not have a job?

Very disconcerting.

I can imagine a lot of them are not going to go back.

Exactly.

Exactly right.

And so that's the real reign of error here.

Well, that's two things.

That's the numerical things we just talked about.

They claim to be saving all this money, but they're really not.

When you look at it, they're exaggerating it by 92 percent.

And in reality, they're causing strife, consternation, anxiety for real people.

And they're putting services at risk to people in Wisconsin and all over the country.

And that uncertainty, along with this tariff trade war, I didn't even get to today, Trump has put a 200 dollar, 200% tariff.

on alcohol from Europe.

Really?

Todd Allbaugh

Yeah, I'm not making that

up.

Wow.

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Now, now he's going after European liquor.

What is the point?

I've known a couple of those, but I don't know.

I don't know what the point is.

I'm not sure what the point is.

Eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two.

Oh, this is great.

Tom McFarland.

Tom and McFarland now is listening and he is calling in to correct me on pizza versus tomato pie.

This is fantastic.

Tom, thanks for calling in.

Tell us now because I was putting it in Ali called earlier and asked about one of our great sponsors, Salvador's Tomato Pie.

I just said to put it in layman's terms or something I thought was understandable.

The closest thing I can think of that other people might relate to is like a deep dish pie, but please educate us Tom.

What is the difference?

There's a bit of a difference on that.

A deep dish is more like your Chicago style pizza, and that's more like a cheese casserole, for lack of a better term, or cheese lasagna, very deep, very thick.

A tomato pie, the crust is gonna be more like, I think in terms of pizza hut, and their traditional crust that they have.

That's about as thick as it's gonna be.

Todd Allbaugh

And

it's not gonna have as much cheese as a traditional pizza is gonna have.

When you look at your like standard pizza, that's more of like a marinara type of sauce.

It's not going to be as thick as a tomato pie sauce.

That's going to be a lot thicker and not as much cheese.

So you're going to have a thicker crust, not a deep dish, but a thicker pan-style crust, a chunkier sauce and less cheese.

This is the awesome place that they're going to be.

They will make that pie any way you want it to.

If you want cheese on it, tell them they'll load it up for you.

No problem.

Do you work there, or do you just freak with the business?

I do not.

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I

happen to like their tomato pies.

They're very good.

Todd Allbaugh

No, they're great.

They're fantastic.

And you did a much, much better job of explaining this than I did.

So I appreciate you calling in.

I'm from

Chicago.

See,

Todd Allbaugh

you're from Chicago.

Really, Tom, I think what we really need to do is we need to do a show from Salvador's.

Have you there?

And we need to sample these on the air so we can accurately tell people.

I think that is an outstanding idea.

I do as well.

Thank you, Tom.

You've given me a new idea for an all-location show.

Thanks a lot, Tom.

We appreciate you listening to the beautiful McFarlane.

Ever.

Have you been to McFarlane's summers?

Not.

I've driven past it.

I don't think I've done anything there.

It's a

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beautiful community.

It's one of

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those suburbs right south of Madison on your way to Stoughton.

Stoughton gets a lot of play, which they should.

It's a great community as well.

But McFarlane is a slightly smaller city, but they have a beautiful little lake right there.

Back waters to the Ahara watershed.

It's great and they at my godson's used to run a lot of track meets at McFarland high school have a beautiful high school and a great track there Beautiful little downtown.

It's great.

Check.

I do not get to enough places around the state like I you know, I used to I'm from Manitowoc I used to live there So I've been to a lot of the towns around Manitowoc and like Sheboygan Green Bay and around that that area in between the two

But I've only lived in Madison a couple of years, and I haven't ventured too far out of the city.

And I would certainly like to, because when I have, it's been great.

Todd Allbaugh

Absolutely.

Wisconsin C is a great place.

We appreciate Tom McFarland.

We're going to put that on our What Makes Wisconsin Great List Zombers.

We have to go and do, and this is not just for fun, right?

This is research for the show.

Right.

Yes.

Business expense.

Todd Allbaugh

We'll see about that.

But but we'll we'll we'll make a visit at some point to Salvador's Tomato Pies, who is a great sponsor of the Civic Media Radio Network.

And we appreciate that greatly.

We're going to want to take a short break here.

Come back.

We'll give you a little update on the Wisconsin Badger game against Northwestern.

And we'll also wrap up the show.

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eight five five seven five two four eight four two eight five five seven five two four eight four two if you want to call the pizza question I thought Zomers this would not be nearly as Controversial as it was but it turns out People have feelings on pizza with sauce and pizza with no sauce

Turns out they do and Sherry and horror Contexting and saying that she is Italian and her grandmother used to make pizza with no sauce

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Now here this comes in and look at look at how efficient the leadership meeting has broken up There was a big leadership meeting here at Civic and has broken up our CEO has taken time now to text me live on the show To bring us a question from a listener Chris has sent in to the company and saying hi, please ask Tom from McFarland

who is from Chicago, he says, his thoughts on, I don't even know how to pronounce it.

Is it Pequod's, Pequod's, P-E-Q-U-O-D, apostrophe S from Chicago.

Chris says, I'm also a Chicago native and I love Pequod's, Pequod's, however you say it, with a smiley emoji.

So how about today's segment of What's Worst is made all the way to our CEO.

And you know, how about that?

That's that's fantastic.

Let's see here.

Dave in New Berlin says, I, wow.

Wow.

Dave in New Berlin's day drinking says, I, I hate the drums for your last segment.

It just means Todd is headed to the bar.

Maggie is lovely at all.

All right.

Well, there you go.

I guess he's saying he doesn't like to hear the drums because it means the show's almost

over.

Todd Allbaugh

All right.

All right.

Todd Allbaugh

Dave makes me laugh and we should all take time to laugh each and every day.

So thanks, Dave.

We appreciate your listenership and thanks everybody for your feelings on pizza.

Once again, it just says to me, we have to do more shows on location at pizza places.

All right, let's see if we can get this in quick.

While the current administration, i.e.

the Trump administration is out to end diversity, equity and inclusion, Congress is not.

The 335 members of today's Congress are more diverse and inclusive than ever before.

According to congressional quarterly roll call data, one in four identifies as Black, Hispanic, Asian American, or Native American.

Yet Congress is not as diverse as the U.S.

population in which more than four in ten are non-white.

Women are 51% of our populace.

but only 28% in Congress.

But talk about inclusion.

To Maga's chagrin, today's 119th Congress includes the first openly transgender member in history.

Representative Sarah McBride, a Democrat from Delaware, is one of 13 members who identify as other than heterosexual.

In Congress, one in 40 members identify as non-heterosexual, but for America as a whole, it's nearly one in 10.

Bye-bye.

Boomer is a thing in the house where Generation X now outnumbers baby boomers 41 to 39%.

I did not know that.

Over in the Senate, have no fear, boomers still roll a rule with 61% of them.

And we have 19 immigrants serving in Congress.

Yikes, 19.

Maga cannot like that, right?

Nope.

So what have we learned here today?

Congress is not as diverse and inclusive as America, but it is trending in that direction.

Which is good.

And we're getting younger people too.

Absolutely.

And speaking of younger people, last night we had the thing with quite low and up North News Radio, that great forum last night on the Supreme Court race.

And one of the people on our panel talking about education, Christian Phelps, who is from the Eau Claire area in his 20s.

And here he is now a member of the state legislature.

I joked last night he brought the immediate age of legislature down by 50%.

Yeah,

he's been on Pat's show for a long time and I've always been impressed with his ability to articulate thoughts that a lot of people have.

Todd Allbaugh

Yeah, I think it's fantastic and we need more young people.

We need people who represent the United States more in elective office.

So

This is good news a little hope to end the show on that they might not be where we want it But little by little poco a poco as they say in Spanish

We are getting a bit more diverse, a few more opinions in our congressional and legislative representation.

Great show today.

Many thanks to Dan Schaefer.

Also many thanks to Dan Jacobs, to Aaron Zahmerz, to all of you for listening.

Have a wonderful afternoon, everybody.

Enjoy the sunshine.

We'll be back tomorrow with Peter Rapine and a wacky look at the week in review.

Until then, this is Todd saying, whatever you're believing, whatever you're fighting for, do not give up.

Keep banging your drum.

We'll see you tomorrow.