Where Did We Come From, Where Do We Go? (Hour 2)

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Where Did We Come From, Where Do We Go? (Hour 2)

The Todd Allbaugh Show · Mon Mar 10, 2025

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The fantastic Mr. Aaron Zombers on the board at seven minutes past the hour of one o'clock.

Welcome into hour number two of the big broadcast on this Monday, March 10th, 2025.

See sometimes,

You just need to do over.

That was much better.

That was a mulligan.

Sometimes in broadcasting, as in golf, you need a mulligan.

And I just I'm doing.

See, here's the deal.

And this will tell you something about me.

I maybe maybe this is a sign now I've become too reliant on Twitter X. And you say, well, Todd, why are you still messing around with the Elon Musk thing?

Well, here's the deal.

I if you're not familiar.

on your feed, as they say, things that come across your screen.

You can either set it for people you follow or people who are suggested.

If you're on the suggested part, you get a lot of crap.

If you're on the follow part, you really don't.

And so you choose who you follow.

So I follow legitimate news sources, ABC, CBS, CNN, Associated Impress, Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Scott Bauer, Wisconsin AP, so on and so forth.

And so that's how I curate a lot of what I bring to you, finding stories, reading articles, sending things to myself, sending Zombers cuts I find off of that.

Well, it went down this morning, crashed, and it's still a little spotty.

So that's brain follow in my brain because I'm just so reliant.

It's like, oh, how do I find these clips and how I just I'm so I'm a little I need Dan Schaefer quite frankly to become Recombobulated because on a Monday, I'm a little bit discombobulated.

All right Anyway, gonna have a big show here the second hour.

What's worse is coming up things that are too salty or foods that are too sweet.

We'll talk about that in a minute big sports weekend for Wisconsin sports

Across the across the entire gamut highlighted by Wisconsin Badger hockey women's hockey Winning the WCA J and getting the number one seed of the NCAA tournament.

We'll talk about that big upset in division three at my alma mater.

You'll be a plethal as Wisconsin Lutheran College Upset the pioneers on their home court in the NCAAs to move on to the sweet 16 congrats to them

Wisconsin Lutheran College from down there in southeast Wisconsin.

So we'll talk a little bit about that as well But I want to pick up because I messed this up.

I meant it was completely my fault Because again of this Twitter going down.

I want to play you this cut From one of my favorite political movies primary colors it stars the great Kathy Bates as the political consultant

and Emma Thompson and John Travolta as the power couple.

Travolta, this is basically the movie that was based on the novel that was supposedly based on Bill Clinton's primary run in 92.

So Travolta plays the Clinton character, Emma Thompson plays the Hillary character, and they found out something about their primary opponent that's going to be damning a sexual escapade that was brought on at a dark time in his life.

which they agree probably wasn't really his fault, but if they use it, it'll knock him out of the race and the Clinton character, uh, Stanton that goes by in the movie can win.

And so Kathy Bates's character brings this to them and is basically going to say, we can't use this, but she sets it up talking about the night that they were all in Miami as kids in the 1972 race.

in which McGovern was running against Nixon.

And McGovern chose, as his running mate, Missouri Senator Thomas Eagleton.

And it turned out, after he chose him, that Eagleton had had some mental illness problem.

And at the time, in the early 70s, they addressed it with shock treatments, which were very taboo to even talk about.

and some of the government had to get rid of him.

And so she's talking about this when they were kids and what Jack Stanton, the Clinton character said to her, and I'm gonna come back and tell you why it's pertinent today and then take your phone calls.

I forget that convention.

Libby, for Christ's sake, what are you doing?

What's the point?

The point is Eagleton.

Remember Jack?

I was knowing you what, two days then?

We hear that McGovern has chosen a vice president who had electric shock treatments.

And for the first time, I actually consider the possibility that we might lose to that fucking brain, Nixon.

I mean, before that, I was absolutely convinced we would win.

Can you imagine, Henry?

We were so fucking young.

And this one, this one, he takes me out.

We go to this little open-air Cuban joint.

Remember Jack I got

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my

head in my hands.

I mean life has ended and I say they did it the CIA it had to be the CIA I Couldn't believe that Tom Eagleton would really be a nutcase They had to drag him off and drugged him and made him crazy It couldn't have been that McGovern was just a complete Amateur no they did dirty tricks and I said to Jack we got to get the same capability as the CIA Remember Jack we got to be able to do dirt too and you said no Our job is to end all that

Our job is to make it clean.

Because if it's clean, we win.

Because our ideas are better.

You remember that, Jack?

That was a long time ago.

Libby, you said it yourself.

We were young.

We didn't know how the world worked.

Now we know.

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There you go.

Now we know.

the Hillary Clinton, Hillary character played by Emma Thompson in primary colors.

I play that for you because if you ever get a chance, I can still stream it.

Certainly I have it on DVD.

Yes, I do.

I've been thrilled.

I never worked on presidential campaigns directly.

And yes, it's a it's fiction, but it's based on and I'll tell you from a lot of campaigns over a lot of years.

Everything about this movie is based in truth at some level everything in this movie has happened to some degree somewhere along the lines in American politics Primary colors check it out But I play it because it's indicative of in a degree where we're at today With this I talked about this tweet that was going all over liberal democratic socials this weekend It was a real clip

of Trump, where he's talking to the head of FIFA, the World Cup organization, saying his words, that they, meaning the Democrats, rigged his words, the election, and then I became president, and so therefore he's gonna be president in 2026.

He's clearly talking about the 2020 election, saying that was rigged.

Again, let's check the facts.

It was not.

But folks on social on the left took this and made up a headline saying user clip Trump admits election was rigged for him to win Trump admits that the presidential election was rigged in order for him to win unquote a That's not what he was saying and B it perpetuates more disinformation on the left the far left This is not a mainstream idea.

Thankfully

But they keeps being brought up that somehow the 2024 election was stole to rig through voting machines or whatever.

That is not true.

It is no more true that the 2024 election was rigged, that the 2020 election was rigged.

Period.

End of story.

It couldn't be to use Kathy Bates's character's words there in the movie.

Me that they were there these these Democrats were so upset in 72 that the governance people hadn't done their research on Eagleton You know, it couldn't be that they were just that incompetent running campaigns.

Somebody had to do this to us.

It had to be somebody else And again trying to put myself in the place of Democrats, which I am not one I'm an independent

I'm trying to appreciate as best I can how frustrated longtime Democrats are that Trump won this election.

But in my opinion, the answer isn't to try to make some fiction up or blame someone else.

Look internally, like Brian Schatz, the Democratic senator from Hawaii is done.

And as said the sentence, we Democrats need to talk more like normal people, unquote.

Meaning,

As those cuts I played earlier when Bernie Sanders was in Altoona this weekend, Wisconsin, when people said were worried about hunger, heat, meals, paying bills, shoes, boots, eyeglasses.

Those are the issues in my opinion the Democrats should be focused on and promoting candidates and ideas and leaders in their party that want to talk about that instead of

Well-meaning individuals who say, we have to make everyone's individual issue the number one issue.

We can't leave anybody behind, no matter how far out on the spectrum it is.

That is not a winner when it comes to running general elections statewide or nationwide.

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Let's go quickly to LA Tom, who's been patient.

LA, thanks.

I just wanted to get that out there.

Let's say you.

Yeah, I think part of the problem is honestly is the media not civic media, but the regular media, you know, you see like oh God when when Zelensky was you know, there it was like Zelensky blowing up or something like that,

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right?

Yes,

yes, or or they always have to put it where oh You know Bernie showed up for all the Democrats

It's like, what are you talking about?

You show up for the human beings in the area.

I want

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to interrupt your second and give you another example.

I watched CBS this morning.

The reporter there, a good reporter, said this morning that Trump misspoke last week in calling Uzlinsky a dictator.

He didn't misspeak.

He intentionally said that.

Go ahead.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No.

And I just think it's really sad because I don't know, you know, I mean, it's the big money.

It's the money in politics.

that is basically dividing all of us.

And it's like, you know, you talk to the people that you, you know, visited with and when you guys went on your tour and stuff like that,

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I

agree with you 150%.

And I would say that honestly, the things that Bernie Sanders has proposed, 70% of the country actually agrees with it.

So it's something where the oligarchs are trying to keep us divided.

Just like Scott Walker said, you know, develop the strategy, divide and conquer.

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Up against the clock, Tom.

Thanks for calling in.

Peggy is next.

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Network.

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Wherever if they lead and having fun doing it welcome back to the title ball show on the Civic media ready to work 21 past the hour of 12 I am I'll tell you what it is.

I'll tell you right now.

It's not Twitter.

I know exactly what it is It's this dang daylight saving time.

Yeah, it has me discombobulated and thrown off on a Monday.

I Tried to like go to bed early.

I tried to sleep in It's the daylight saving time

I love the light at the end of the day, by the way, but it's, I'm just, I'm thrown off eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two.

Our friend's ongoing contributor watching on Facebook, Jeff Perry says, Todd, you may want to try blue sky.

It's essentially the same as Twitter was nearly all the same new sources.

I like it.

Well, Jerry Betty, your apps, I am on the blue sky.

I'm on blue sky, but I just haven't had.

time to like find all of the same people I follow on Twitter as I do on Blue Sky.

And also I learned this, and you tell me, I'm talking to my friend real time over the air.

Here's, and if anybody else knows this, I tried to make, I tried to take my post from Twitter and put it on Blue Sky over the weekend.

Now apparently Blue Sky limits their

They're carrot.

Do you have to have like a subscription to have longer blue sky messages?

We have to do that on Twitter on blue sky.

I don't know if you can.

I'm limited.

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I'm limited.

To quote Wicked.

So anyway, no, I get it, Jeff.

I need to go more on the blue sky.

I'll try that.

Who is this on from Madison W. M.D.

Jordan.

Thank you very much, Jordan.

Asking by chance, could you tell me the song title for the show's outro?

The lyrics go something about banging your drum.

I'd like to look up and give the whole song a listen.

I absolutely can, Jordan.

It comes to us from a group called Dead Man Fall from the UK.

And the song is called Bang Your Drum.

Bang Your Drum by a group called Dead Man Fall.

I found it years ago.

when the former host of the late late show and CBS Craig Ferguson originally from the UK and He found this group and he had him on the show and he sat in with a lot of his last show They came on the show.

He said he gives Ferguson plays drums and So he played that played that song a lot on on his show and I just think it's a great moniker that We're gonna go through bad times But keep going

Keep banging your drum.

Somebody will hear you.

Somebody else will start banging their drum along with you and create a chorus.

I think it's a great metaphor for what we try to do on the show.

Give a little hope, encourage people to keep banging their drum, and together we can raise our voices.

The group is called Dead Man Fall.

The song is Bang Your Drum, which more often than not is how we end the show every day.

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By the way, Jordan, thanks for listening to us on WMDX in beautiful Madison.

Peggy calling in from Brooklyn.

Peggy, I'm not, in fact, I was through Brooklyn last week for the first time in a while, went down to Green County in Monroe, always drive through Brooklyn.

It's a great little community of folks who've never been there.

How are you?

Good.

So your previous caller nailed it on the head.

i have so many democrats and i have so many democrats and so many republicans calling me out say you are so far left i am not a liberal and the democratic party has to move to the middle because they're losing people

because people want to be in the middle and see both sides of it.

They can't be so far left, so far right, they won't meet in the middle.

And as soon as I say to them, they'll say to me, you have to quit putting things on Facebook.

And I said, we need to meet in the middle.

I'm not arguing with you left or right here, but we need to meet in the middle.

And they can't, they don't know what to say to that.

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Yeah, I couldn't agree with you more Peggy.

You're talking my language.

Uh, and you know who else to a degree the senator u.s senator who gave the democratic response to donald trump's uh Two hour speech to congress last week democrat from michigan alissa stulkin And a piece over the weekend in the hill argued that since the election president trump has had democrats quote on their heels Stulkin joined mbc news is meet the press on sunday where she was asked by host kirsten welker

About if the Democratic Party has the leadership to help navigate the Trump administration She said quote look I mean people who know me.

I'm pretty straightforward I don't think it's a secret that Democrats have been on their heels since Trump won the election, right?

Slokin said I don't think that's that's something that's being hidden Slokin delivered the rebuttal course to President Trump.

She went on to say I Think you can't get better until you admit you have a problem

I think some of the new voices of the party have been agitating about it, right?

New senators, new representatives, new folks who are like, hey, we need to do more.

We need to be showing that we're actually having a plan to stand up on really important moments of inflection.

So that's what I'm trying to do from within.

Senator Slokin from Democrat from Michigan.

And by the way, to Peggy's point and to L.A.

Thomas' point as well.

If you look on social media from folks on the progressive left, I'll call it, there were many that were very angry about Senator Slokin's speech, her rebuttal against Trump.

I thought it was great.

I thought it was great as well.

But now we're seeing in real time the challenge here for the Democratic Party to Peggy's point and to Slokin's words, that Slokin is someone who

Can appeal to the middle and I'm not talking about appealing to people who are you know voting hook line and sinker for Donald Trump Many of those folks we're not going to get I'm talking about the folks in the Democratic Party who chose to stay home or not vote the full ticket in November and That even narrower band of people who consider themselves independence Who chose to either vote for Trump or just not vote the presidential election

And I think that for some people in the Democratic Party, there's zero sum.

In other words, you have to agree with all my issues, or I'm not, I don't want any part of it.

And again, I go back to that clip I played earlier from primary colors.

When you get a little, now I'm going to sound like the old man that I am.

When you get a little experience under your belt, you have a greater appreciation for pragmatism.

And you learned that it's often, if not almost always, of course, there are our red line issues like basic human rights.

But generally speaking, in elected politics, it's better to be pragmatic and get 75% of the loaf rather than zero.

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34 minutes past the hour of one o'clock on a Monday, March 10th.

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The Daylight Saving Time change has messed my head up.

And I thought I felt like I came in today feeling pretty good about it.

I thought when I prepared, I worked on the show over the weekend.

But still, the Daylight Saving Time messing things up.

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Let's go to the full lines.

Rick in Waukesha, listening on WAUK.

Thanks for calling.

Rick, what do you have?

Well, Todd, how's it going?

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I'm well.

How about yourself?

I'll tell you.

All right.

Hang in there with this weather.

Right.

The thing is, you know, this is like all-star wrestling.

You know, it's always rigged.

It's never rigged.

It's always the other guy when you're in trouble.

You know, it's like acting.

And then then the media comes on, it's like flies on a dead fish.

You know, they just whatever is going on, they're just eating it up,

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you know,

No, I agree.

And you know, who else agrees with you is our very own political editor, Dan Schaefer here at Civic Media, also the founder of the Reconpopulation area.

And he was on this show a while back.

He wrote a column you can find it at civicmedia.us at the Reconpopulationarea.com where he said that, you know, look, whether we like it or not.

The manga party under Trump has become the pro wrestling party to your point that it's a spectacle now whether we agree with that spectacle is beside the point but they know how to get attention they know how to make this entertaining and To some degree not saying that I think Democrats should become a pro wrestling type of party as well But you have to learn how to cut through today's media and get your message across would you agree?

Rick is there.

Oh, right.

Yeah, I was saying Rick.

Do you agree with that?

Well, yeah, but you know, I met a guy that was a police officer in Washington DC during the Kennedy era and He said, you know, watch out for these Hollywood politicians, right?

You know that there's all kinds of politicians.

They're just actors, you know Well Reagan was

He was a good one.

Yeah, I mean, you know, they're, they're good at, uh, pooling people.

Right.

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Period.

Yep.

You

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know.

Well, I appreciate your listenership, Rick.

Thanks for calling in, uh, 8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2.

Let's go back one zombers on the old text line here to Kurt listening in Madison, the WMDX.

Kurt says, quote, so what you're telling me is that if the Democrats message better that all the far right red states would have voted for a Democrat, no way in hell.

The two driving forces that resulted in the loss were Harris was a woman, and I believe she would have made a great president, by the way, and those who failed to vote.

And those are the hard facts.

Ignorance of being lazy is a choice.

That includes the blue and purple states.

Unquote, that is from Kurt, a listener off the text line in Madison.

No, I don't, I mean, again, I don't want to get too far into this today.

We've talked about it at length, Trigby and other people.

I don't think that, that.

if the Democrats message better that the far right would have voted Democratic.

But I do think that there was a disconnect, A, between Democrats motivating their base as evidenced in those who stayed home or simply chose not to vote at the top of the ticket.

And B, as Trigby Olson, someone who has worked on national presidential races and won, has talked about, is that

on some issues, not all.

And by the way, I don't blame Harris.

I don't think, I don't think that Trigby does either.

Harris directly, I think it's people around.

I mean, Tim Walls was on, or Tim Walls tweeted out, Governor Minnesota, the vice presidential nominee last time around.

He, self-reflection, he said, we didn't, we held back a little bit.

We were too safe.

Remember how when Tim Walls first got on the ticket, he had that catchphrase, you know, Republicans are just weird.

Maga folks are just weird.

And that caught on.

That was popular.

And then the political consultant class around the Democrats and Walls and Harris said, you can't use that word.

You might offend somebody, calling them weird.

We don't want anybody to think that we're calling anyone weird.

Well, it was something that connected with people.

It was something that was funny.

And it was true.

JD Vance is a weird guy.

And so all said, well, look, we played it too safe.

I think that's good.

I think that's good self-reflection.

And as Trivius mentioned, in particular on the trans issue, Tammy Baldwin in Wisconsin, nobody campaigns better.

She hit back on those allegations that she was supporting, you know, trans people in prison and giving them, you know, gender-affirming care.

It's just not a thing and she struck back on it and said you're lying about my record and Harris's folks never did Because they were afraid of what's called in the Democratic parlance blowback scores that you might offend someone in the Democratic base So I think it's things like that Reed Galen who's been on this show founder of the Lincoln co-founder of Lincoln project now with President of the Union has a great podcast out

right now talking a little bit about messaging and read makes the point as I did in my column last week, we didn't know we were making the same point basically wrote separate columns or podcasts in the column that it's very difficult to get people voters to listen to you to what you're saying if they don't feel you like them.

So if you're attacking them all the time is terrible people or, you know, they're just stupid or they, you know, all kinds of name calling.

They're never gonna vote for you and I think there were some not all Certainly not Tammy ball Tammy Baldwin should be the template for Democrats particularly in Wisconsin my opinion She goes to the dairy breakfast.

She goes on the farm.

She goes to the pancake dinners.

She goes to the VFW's She goes to the dels the Wisconsin dels and talks with the businessmen and women She goes to northern Wisconsin sits in dive bars and finishes her beer Talks to hunters

It is a real person.

And although they might not always agree with her, they say, you know what?

She gets us.

She likes us.

That should be the example, in my opinion, for Democrats.

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Perry, calling in from beautiful, a canto.

Perry, thanks for calling.

What's

he?

I agree with the Tammy Baldwin statement.

She gets out there, she states her case and stuff like that, but I wanted to talk a little bit about the Democratic Party and meeting in the middle and that type of stuff.

I just think the messaging was often this election.

It was the most underwhelming presidential election I ever voted in.

I didn't see anything that was really striking where it was like, get off the couch and go vote other than protect democracy.

There's something you can catch on your computer called Democracy Now, very good.

They have different guests on there talking about different topics, but on Thursday they had Ralph Nader talking, and he actually did talk about that senator from Michigan, given the rebuttal, and he was talking about, it was kind of underwhelming.

It wasn't showing the Democrats taking up policies for

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the

average person.

It didn't talk about raising the minimum wage.

They talked a little bit about child care and that, but it wasn't really something that was get behind the people.

Let me

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ask you this.

Let me ask you this, period.

Not to cut you off.

What, I'm assuming you're generally a Democratic voter.

Is that fair to say?

Pretty much.

Okay.

So what, what is- Going for a

sheriff.

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Right?

What would you say, what would you as a Democratic voter like to hear from the Democratic Party or Democratic candidates that would excite you more to vote?

Well, I think one thing, just me personally, but the environment is my number one issue.

If we don't do something there, and now we have Tony Weed voice in this.

don't put any money into electric charging stations so we can't drive up to

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northern

Wisconsin because there's no electricity to plug into.

I think, you know, just regular things raising the Social Security payments for the middle class and maybe raising the payments on everybody so they all pay a certain percentage.

Things like that would get, you know, the average person.

And I think we got kind of horn swaggered also.

and the high prices with inflation and stuff, which nobody controls them.

We know the guy in there now isn't doing a dang thing.

Todd Allbaugh

I appreciate the call, Perry.

Thank you so much.

I appreciate your perspective.

Have you noticed, Thomas, how so many people are outside enjoying the nice weather?

No, we're not.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Great call.

Beautiful Conto up there in Northeast Wisconsin.

Let's go closer to home before our station and Dick in Madison and WMDX here in Dane County.

Dick, are you outside as well and enjoying this nice weather?

I was.

Real quick, I heard almost all of the things talked about the last caller said nobody paid any damn attention, but I'm going to run something by you that I ran by the show this morning.

We have some next presidents.

I know that that's supposedly out of bounds.

We're living in different times.

All these guys need to step up.

I know the last one needs to stay out because it'll look like sour grapes too soon after.

But Bush, Clinton, and Obama all need to step up fast and at least say this is not normal.

This is not how we grew up.

This is craziness.

The stock market's down 900 points again today.

He's totally cratering this economy in seven weeks.

This isn't normal.

Nothing's normal about it.

And it needs to be spoke to by the ex-presidents.

Todd Allbaugh

Yeah, I appreciate the call, Dick.

Thank you so very much.

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I mean, I saw during the last election, I saw former President Obama, former President Clinton out on the campaign trail for Vice President Harris and Governor Walz.

I mean, they were out there doing things.

As a former Republican,

And somebody who voted for George W Bush twice, I would have liked to have seen him done more than just not endorse Trump.

I mean, that's helpful to a degree.

I mean, it sends a nuanced message to people who know him or followed him or supported him.

It was clear that George W is not a Trump fan at all.

But I agree with with the caller that it would have spoken a lot more had W come out.

and actually endorsed vice president Harris like Liz Cheney did.

Like Bush's running mate, Dick Cheney did.

But that, of course, we heard from some disaffected Democrats that said that was part of why they wouldn't vote for her is because she was making some sort of an unholy alliance with, you know, the Bush chaining claim.

I subscribe to Trig V. Olsen's Seven Rules of Dealing with an Authoritarian.

I can't remember which number it is, but, you know, Hitler.

in World War II was the worst person on earth.

The second worst person was Joseph Stalin.

The United States decided to make a deal with the second worst person in order to take the worst person out.

The enemy of your enemy is your friend, at least for now.

So I thought that was smart on Harris' part.

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Deanne, up in beautiful Claire, listening to WCFW on the tap.

Deanne, thanks for calling in.

What's

up?

Thomas is gonna respond to the gentleman who talked about all of the ex-presidents getting involved.

And I'm of the opinion that they will eventually get involved, but I think that all of the mega followers need to feel the pain first.

If those presidents get involved now, they'll just become a distraction for the party.

Whereas if mega start feeling the pain of all of Trump's decisions, then they're going to listen when those ex-presidents finally come forward.

That's my opinion.

Todd Allbaugh

I think there's some truth to that and look I don't wish paint on anyone.

I really don't But I agree with you in the sense that there are some folks out there in the electorate Kind of like doubting Thomas, you know the story for the Bible after Jesus, you know resurrected went to his disciples and Thomas didn't believe it until he could feel Jesus his hands and the scars There are some doubting Thomas is out there until they actually go through it themselves.

They're not going to

Believe it.

Come back.

Take more phone calls.

Wrap things up.

We'll do a quick version of what's worse.

Appreciate it on the phone calls.

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Welcome back to the time.

I'll show in the Civic Media Network.

It is nine before the hour of two o'clock in the top of the hour.

ABC and CBS News, followed by a weather check of our great weather out there across Wisconsin.

Very spring like almost summer.

Mike Clemens with a great sports report did not have the time.

Appreciate all the calls.

Did not get the time to talk sports like I intended today.

Again, big congrats to Wisconsin Lutheran College, who knocked off my alma mater, the Plattfield pioneers.

in the round of 32 in the division three NCAAs in Plattville on Bo Ryan court.

Not an easy thing to do.

Wisconsin Lutheran College got their very first win in the NCAAs the night before and then knocked off Plattville on Saturday to advance to the sweet 16.

Congrats to them.

Also, congrats to the Badger women's hockey team that beat the middle, the evil Minnesota Golden Goats.

To win the WCHA title, yet another title for the Badgers under coach Mark Johnson.

When are they going to put up the statue in front of a Bon Arena of Mark Johnson?

Badgers, the number one seed now in the NCAAs.

By the way, our friend Brady Ewing listening to the show today.

We always appreciate that.

He sends me this article because he heard us talk about.

I've apologized to the show for today's show online because I've overprepared for today's show.

And I also blame Daylight Savings Time.

And now here, Brady sends me a story from PBS.

Daylight Savings Time causes lower productivity and higher healthcare costs, study say.

It does.

Investigators into the 1986 Spatial Challenger Disaster revealed that key decision makers worked on little sleep.

raising concerns that the fatigue impaired their judgment.

And it goes on to the Exxon Valdez oil spill.

So clearly more sleep, less preparation for tomorrow's show.

Let's go quickly.

Who do we got here?

LA Tom, call it back quickly.

LA, what do you got for us?

I have to say that I think we do have a woman problem in this country.

And what I mean by that is there's a majority, there's a lot of women that voted for a woman, but we've had two of the most qualified women run for office.

And for some reason you had 53% of white women voting for a P grabbing rapist over another woman.

I really think that Democrats should not put another woman up

for president because I don't, I think it's a built in something that's going on.

And I just don't think that a woman can win.

I think if Joe Biden as an example would have stepped down and made Kamala Harris the president and then she could have been the president for six months to eight months or whatever, then maybe people would have got used to it, but there's just something about it.

And I don't think women,

Want other women to succeed.

I just don't

Todd Allbaugh

Really do you think I mean maybe some maybe there are some people out there I just mean we elected a black man to to the

presidency twice percent 53% who do we call God a man?

Who do we do the different things whenever there's anything that's in leadership in this country a man?

And I'm telling you there is an issue there that needs to be solved if we are ever to have a female president

Because there's a lot of look at

Todd Allbaugh

look at look at Mexico has a president.

You're more Margaret Thatcher event.

I mean,

Todd Allbaugh

it's just all over the world.

I mean,

I yes, I you have to remember you have to remember Margaret Thatcher dad Queens Well, I mean we have we have Lindy Graham come

Todd Allbaugh

on

By the way by the way

Todd Allbaugh

before before we let you go things that are too salty or foods that are too sweet what's worse

Oh, God, um, probably too sweet.

I'm not really a big, salty or sweet person being vegan and stuff.

So I just, yeah.

Thanks.

Todd Allbaugh

Thanks LA.

Appreciate it.

Have fun out there in west coast.

Uh, now another Tom here in, uh, Wisconsin and Madison.

Tom, thanks for calling.

Let's see.

Tom,

are you there?

Hello,

Todd Allbaugh

Tom, you're on the air.

What do

Todd Allbaugh

you

got?

I didn't use my needs.

What?

That's okay.

Um, you mentioned, um, um,

Our representatives, you didn't talk about Mark Pokan.

I wish he talked more about him.

I'm not sure if you're familiar with what he's doing against, you know, with those and everything.

He's introducing a new rule about

Todd Allbaugh

Musk.

Have you seen that?

I've seen a little bit about it.

I mean, I think, like Congressman Pokan is a great guy.

He's been on the show.

You know, I think Democrats can offer lots of bills, but they don't have the majority right now.

And so...

I appreciate speaking out is certainly good, but bills by Democrats aren't going to go anywhere right now.

I hear you on that, but he is the one guy on a few number.

If you were here 14 years ago, he's the one who broke open Alec.

You know, he went into Alec and broke in and brought it up.

And he's the one who kind of showed us that this is what project 2025 people all about and moving it forward.

So he is attacking project 20.

I just think he's a good soldier.

Todd Allbaugh

He's a

great

Todd Allbaugh

guy.

He's a great representative from Wisconsin.

I've known him a long time when he all the way back when he was in the state assembly.

And I think he fights hard

for

Todd Allbaugh

Wisconsin.

And we'd love to have him back on the show.

Yeah.

Cool.

All right.

Thanks.

Appreciate it.

OK, so we got two minutes.

Here's a two minute speed round.

What's worse?

Yeah.

What's worse?

No time for the things

Todd Allbaugh

that are salty or things that are sweet?

LA Tom says things are sweet.

I'm gonna agree with LA Tom as somebody who I I literally have to take salt pills and I'm supposed to over salt my food I

Todd Allbaugh

did not know this.

We've been

doing

Todd Allbaugh

this show together for two and a half

years I've learned a lot about your health

Todd Allbaugh

conditions.

I do I did not you take salt pills

Yeah, I take I don't remember exactly

Todd Allbaugh

I mean, I don't mean to be laughing at the condition

I didn't know this about you

Todd Allbaugh

people did this as like the Mayflower stuff

before I was diagnosed people would

Or I would always eat food with less salt because it's like salty food is bad for you.

And then it got worse.

And then I got diagnosed and they're like, nope, you're supposed to do the opposite.

Todd Allbaugh

I disagree.

I think things are sweet or worse because things are salty or worse.

Did you say salty?

I said sweet's

Todd Allbaugh

worse.

I think salty.

You can't take the salt out.

I don't know.

That's

Todd Allbaugh

fair.

All right.

Of all the shows we've ever done, this has been one of them.

Thanks for being with us.

Stay tuned.

Maggie Dawn is next.

Whatever you're fighting for, whatever you believe in, do not give up.

Keep banging your drum.

Tomorrow's show will be better.

Have a good one.

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