Reflecting On Rep. Al Green’s Protest… And Butter (Hour 2)

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It is six past the hour of one o'clock.

Welcome in the hour number two of the big program here on this Thursday, March 6th, 2025.

It is a great day to be Wisconsinite sunny skies and a cloud in the sky that I can see.

Out of the world headquarters here in downtown Madison on State Street.

Great to have you along.

How about Chad Holmes stop and buy Zomers?

Now, there's a guy who's getting it done day in and day out, just like our friend Phil Knee at WRCO.

Holmes up there at WXC or Wausau.

He's getting up before the chickens get up.

He's doing a show.

He'd do it a couple of hours of a radio show, and then he's going out at night and broadcasting hockey and baseball and the list goes on.

And he's down here now broadcasting state high school hockey.

Yeah, those two work so hard and deserve praise.

And it's always good to hear his takes.

And I'm glad that he got to come on coincidentally when

somebody from

Wausau called

in.

Exactly.

it just shows you how we're all kind of connected and good luck to all those wisconsin high school hockey teams boys and girls who are participating here in madison this weekend it is serious stuff these hockey's state tournaments so uh big and uh big kudos to all of them you can listen to those broadcasts by the way if you don't live in wasa via the civic media app simply download it at your apple or android device type in civic

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Listen to Chad tonight on the Civic Media app.

Lots to get to this hour, including what's worse on butter or margarine.

That'll be fun.

I don't think it'll be close, but maybe maybe we'll split maybe people feel differently than me.

I don't know Gonna talk more about these cuts Yesterday being announced at Department of Veterans Affairs 80,000 employees and now today where it is that Trump is going to effectively shut down the US Department of Education Which is ironic for me at least

That it happens today because today the 6th of March Would have been my maternal grandmother Marge Wallace would have been her 104th birthday She died at the ripe old age of 96 Before the show I thought to myself if I had said to my grandmother in her 90s Well, just think grandma in 2025 you'll be 104 her reaction most likely would likely would have been oh

I hope not.

I hope I'm not around.

Because I mean, she worked her tail off, literally building a university and helping others to be an educator.

She was a group as a farm girl.

And by inter 90, she had a, you know, she was a lot of pain, just her bones and everything.

And it happens to a lot of people.

And she would say, I don't want to live to be a hundred.

And she didn't, she checked out at 96.

And by the way, she lived the last eight-ish years in a nursing home and had all of her faculties up until the day she died and by golly, she voted.

So she was the first woman to serve as a dean of the University of Wisconsin campus at UW-Richland with so many other people there in the Richland Center area, helped to establish that.

And it survived for over 50 years.

until J. Rothman took over the W system and the Republicans defunded it.

And Tony Evers said, I care, but not enough to do anything about it.

That's going to be a new segment.

I care, but not enough to do anything about it.

You know, J. Rothman and those guys, they're

doing the

best they can.

Right.

So anyway, happy birthday, grandma.

I know you're looking down.

Thanks for all you did.

Your legacy lives on in so many lives that you helped.

I still have people come up to me.

and say if it wasn't for your grandmother, I would have never got my education.

I wouldn't have my job.

It just goes to prove the ripple effect of one person on other people's lives.

So there you go.

Speaking of that ripple effects, I want to begin this hour.

It was great to have Chad in here, but we didn't get to I want to revise and extend some remarks that I made made yesterday about the joint session of Congress, the presidential speech.

Trump was there.

And Congressman Al Green, I believe of Texas, Democrat, stood up and it was shouting at Donald Trump as he was trying to give the speech.

And Mike Johnson, the speaker, gave a warning, pounded the gavel, said, you're out of order.

If you don't stop, we'll have you removed.

And Green continued.

And so they called the sergeant arms and had Al Green removed.

I said yesterday that while I don't agree with Johnson on much, I agreed that was appropriate because.

He wouldn't stop and people said, well, why isn't it okay for Marjorie Taylor Green and others to yell liar at Joe Biden, but not and I said, well, I know it's nuanced, but they stopped.

They didn't continue on.

Al Green did.

And look, I'm 55.

I'm an institutional guy.

I worked for both the United States House of Representatives and the state Senate.

I have seen firsthand that normally.

The most effective way to get something accomplished in these institutions is to have rules that everybody has to follow.

And so I just said, look, I think what Green said is important that Trump doesn't have a mandate to cut Medicaid, but I don't think he did it the right way.

Al Green took to the House floor yesterday and I listened to it.

I saw it on Twitter, actually.

And I listened to it and I thought, I thought to myself, would I have listened to that if he hadn't been thrown out?

If he just had a, if he just went to the house floor and said something, would I have stopped and clicked and listened to that?

Let's listen to it and we'll discuss.

Here's Al Green yesterday in the house representative's floor.

And I did it with

intentionality.

The president indicated that he had a mandate.

I said to the president, you do not have a mandate to cut Medicaid.

I have constituents who need Medicaid.

They will suffer and some will die if they don't get Medicaid.

I heard the speaker when he said that I should cease.

I did not, and I did not with intentionality.

It was not done out of a burst of emotion.

I was emotional about it, but I did it with intentionality.

I think that on some questions, questions of conscience, you have to be willing to suffer the consequences.

And I have said I will.

I will suffer whatever the consequences are because I don't believe that in the richest country in the world, people should be without good health care.

I stood up for my constituents then.

I'm standing up for my constituents now.

I am grateful to Mr. McGovern for what he has said.

I'm grateful to those who have been standing with me.

But I will tell you, I appreciate you.

No anger.

The officers who had escorted me out, they were kind to me.

I don't blame the speaker for anything.

Friends, I would do it again.

I have to be candid with you.

I'm not trying to in some way insult you.

This is a matter of principle.

This is a matter of conscience.

There are people suffering in this country because they don't have health care.

I'll close with this.

On some issues that are matters of conscious, it is better to stand alone than not stand at all.

This is where I stand.

Democratic U.S.

Representative Al Green of Texas.

So I listened to that.

And I thought, would I have stopped on Twitter and listened if Al Green hadn't been thrown out?

And if I'm honest with myself, no, I wouldn't have.

I thought he was exquisite in that explanation.

I thought he was, I guess the other word is exquisite.

It reminds me of the great late civil rights activist John Lewis who reminded all of us that sometimes it's good to have good trouble.

And I think Al Green got into some good trouble.

And while I still don't think that we should become Parliament in the UK with Prime Minister's questions and yelling at one another, I think Al Green made his point.

And the fact that he accepted the responsibility and said, look, I know whatever punishment's coming my way, I'll take it.

Didn't make excuses for it, took responsibility, but he made a really important point.

And it was a way to cut through in a time when it's very tough to cut through message-wise.

So That's my second pause reflect take on Al Green.

I think he did what he needed what he thought he had to do He made a point edit by the way, it's a very salient one Because those of us sometimes including myself are not paying attention to what really matters what really matters are these votes coming up in Congress soon, which are going to determine Medicaid Medicare Social Security lives actual lives

of a lot of folks.

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LA Tom out in beautiful Los Angeles, California.

LA, what do you have?

First off, Al Green of the hero of my now.

And also, you know what?

People act like the only people that are on Medicaid and Social Security and Medicare are Democrats.

I mean, there's a hell of a lot of Republicans out there that are on Medicare, Medicaid and-

In red congressional districts.

Social security, right?

Yeah, absolutely.

So I don't know, I would think that even Republicans would be saying, you know, thank you, Al Green, for speaking out for me.

It wasn't like a you live thing where it was just basically just trying to make a headline.

He had a purpose behind what it was he was trying to say.

And like you said, Todd, he got that out.

Now, I'd like to say that money in politics and lobbyists in politics is what is destroying our country.

Because of Citizens United, this has destroyed our country.

If we didn't have Citizens United, we wouldn't be having millions of dollars going into a campaign in Wisconsin right now, Susan Crawford and BS.

I mean, we would have basically people running for office.

And for the gentleman that called before, look, it was the Republican sandbox.

We're just playing in it now.

I went

before it.

Hey, hang on.

Before we go out of time, you put something in the chat.

I want to address it.

You said the 10 Democrats who voted for the center of Al Green today.

I don't know this for a fact.

My guess is if you look, there are Democrats who are in swing districts who barely won the races and are being attacked by conservative media in their district.

And so this is a way to try to balance now politically.

They're trying to survive.

That's my guess.

Appreciate the call, LA.

Come on back.

We'll play a little What's Worse.

It's the title of our show.

It's March 6th.

It's Grandma's birthday, and this is the Civic Medium radio network.

It's been fun doing it.

Welcome back to the Toddleball Show on the CivicVideoReady.org.

21 now past the hour of one o'clock.

Birthday wishes, I mentioned before the show, it would have been my grandmother's, my grandma Wells' 104th birthday.

She is, she departed, she checked out at 96.

She's happy in heaven, I'm sure.

Megan, one of our great folks here in the office in Madison says, coincidentally, it's also my husband Corey's 30th birthday today.

He loves listening to you guys while he's at work.

Well, happy birthday, Corey, Big 3-0, just a young buck out there in the woods.

So thanks for listening.

And this brings up an interesting point.

I'm thinking maybe for the summer, we start having people send in birthday wishes.

I'm a big fan of Garrison Keeler, the old Prairie Home Companion show on national public radio came out of Minnesota.

And for some very many years during one part of the show, they play music instrumental and he would read birthday wishes from people in the audience or people that listeners would call in, you know, and send out birthday.

I think that'd be lovely for us.

And timely, timely indeed, as Mike Lucas likes to say, because we just bought Civic.

I couldn't buy a raincoat.

But the Civic Media just bought a brand new station.

Well, a legacy station in northern Minnesota.

And when I say northern Minnesota, I mean, like to paraphrase sale, a sale, a pair, Sarah Palin, I can see Canada from my backs to ports.

You really can.

W. L. E. Y. End of the road

radio

itself.

E. L. Y. Or E. L. E. L. Y. Yeah, Eli.

Eli, Minnesota.

Sorry.

The old dyslexia kicking him.

W. E. L. Y. In Eli, Minnesota.

And this is like right near the border of Canada and they broadcast to the boundary waters up there.

And because their signal goes into the boundary waters, it may be one of the few if not only signals up there.

They are licensed by the FCC to carry emergency announcements.

Now, for those of you like me who are big fans of broadcasting and the old, the old and current CBS Sunday morning show that was originated and hosted.

So very many years by the late great broadcaster Charles Corralt, who did the on the road programs and whatnot.

He did a couple of stories on Eli and he fell in love with it.

So much so that when he retired for broadcasting in 1995, the station up there, WELY was falling on hard times and he bought it and he ran it.

Charles Corralt, WELY in Eli, Minnesota.

until it's untimely death in 1997, and then it was sold and it's fallen into kind of disrepair and been shut down a couple of times.

Now, Civic Media has bought it and has breathed life into it.

We have some, Craig, the trader, I think he's called up there, trader Craig, and one of the local personalities is back on the air.

And I think this is great because now through Civic, we can broadcast these things to the boundary waters.

So I think we pick up on that.

I think Charles Krall would love this and, you know, Garrison Keeler and we just read people's birthdays this summer.

So maybe that'll be a thing later on this summer.

But cannot wait.

I know it's going to be local music up there, WELY.

Might be an AM signal coming up there as well.

I'm not sure if we're going to... I have a feeling the people of Eli, Minnesota may not want me other airways every day.

Because, you know, I'm a little I'm a little harsh on the Gophers over there.

I will say,

though, Phil in Minneapolis just called in and says it is pronounced Ely.

Oh,

really?

Well, see, immediately, that's another reason the people in Ely don't want me there is because I can't pronounce their town name.

Who wants this Wisconsin boy on our airwaves?

Mark and Perry Disack also texted in with that pronunciation.

Well, I appreciate that.

That's the that's the by the way, it's the first correct pronunciation effort.

Ely, Ely, Minnesota.

Well, thank you.

The more you know, the more you know.

And they're lovely, lovely people up there in northern Minnesota.

I mean, it's not Iowa.

Watch

yourself

before we.

I don't think we're going to.

I don't think we're going to buy any stations.

Iowa, but you never know.

And look, we're all from the Midwest, right?

We're just we're just we're just getting along.

Thank you, Mark.

Thank you for the caller.

So congratulations to all the folks in Elie, Minnesota, who are now part of the civic media family.

All right, we're going to start this now.

We'll finish it on the other side.

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Timely, timely indeed, because Easter is on.

We're now into Lent, Mr. Zomers.

Are you giving anything up for

Lent?

Probably not.

All right.

Well, I guess I would have had to know already by now.

So I guess the answer is no.

I always, I traditionally for Lent, I give up abstinence.

How's that working

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for you this year?

Somebody has to do it.

I've given up abstinence for Lent.

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Are you going to talk about that?

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on Pete Schwab's show Night Light with Conrad.

Can we talk in TV movies?

I'm not sure abstinence.

They were asking last night, what do you give up for Lent?

I thought I'd save it for tonight.

Anyway, what's worse, butter or margarine?

Butter or margarine?

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What's worse?

Butter or margarine our ongoing contributor and friend Jeff Perry on Facebook says based on your tease I can only assume the grand prize in the text to win contest coming up is related to the testicle festival No, no it is not but wouldn't that be fantastic if it was for those that don't listen to us on WMDX at Madison?

Oh, well, I guess a lot of people here pay me on key

Midwest Farm Report, she's later this week, she's going to be broadcasting from the Testicle Festival.

This is a real thing here in Dane County where they have all kinds of Rocky Mountain oysters, deep fried, all that kind of stuff.

What would you put on your Testicle Festival, Rocky Mountain oyster, butter or margarine?

What's worse, eight, five, five, seven, five, two, four, eight, four, two.

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What's worse, butter or margarine?

Butter or margarine?

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By the way, more clarification.

We were talking about our new station over in Minnesota is pronounced ELE.

E. Lee, Minnesota, and it's W. E. L. Y. And someone asked, well, if it's over on the other side of the Mississippi, when did it begin with K?

Usually stations west of the Mississippi are K. I don't know the full story.

All I can tell you is that the original station signed on October 2nd, 1954 as W. E. L. Y. A. M.

On the FM side, it was originally called KQ EQ As it was issued of the license on 1992, but then later on changes to WELY FM So for whatever reason is known as WELY here's all right Oliver.

Let's get on this Let's reach out to Trader Craig up there at WELY and get him on the show

We can ask Trader Craig.

This will be fantastic.

Great.

Right.

This is, I'm going to have some, we're going to have so much fun with this new station, Minnesota, up there, the beautiful boundary waters.

Right now, what's worse, butter or margarine, butter or margarine.

All right.

Uh, MT in the Grove, better known as Minona Grove says margarine is worse.

It's like spreading warm plastic and I refuse to spread neither.

on my testicles.

Probably a good move.

Because we were talking about this testicle festival.

It's a real thing of Rocky Mountain Oysters here in Dane County.

The Pam Yankee on the farm report is, I mean, it's a big business.

It is.

And speaking of the Testicle Festival, for those of you not listening to WMDX in Madison, the John and Gordy show is a morning show we have here.

And

this is their promo for tomorrow's show.

John Peterson and Gordy Young.

On our next show, Pam Yonkey will

be

talking about the Springfield Corner's Testicle Festival.

If you're unfamiliar with what a testicle is.

Wait, no, no, don't go there.

The John and Gordy show, weekday morning, six till eight.

There you go.

I thought that was hilarious.

Tune in tomorrow.

from six to eight, and you can learn more.

Matt, what if our UPS drivers in Richland Center are listening on WRCE, the old home station?

Marjoram is worse.

Butter is superior for cooking, shaving, and sunbathing.

Now,

this, and then another person said to him, this reminds me that old Seinfeld article where Kramer decides to use butter as moisturizer and suntan lotion.

Yeah, that's not a good move.

Not a good move.

Not a good move.

Tony listening on WMDX and Beaver Dam.

It's Wisconsin butter that goes on everything.

So margarine is worse.

Absolutely.

Michael listening in Tosa on WMDX says butter is best, margarine is the worst.

Kimber listening in Muscatie on WRCE saying margarine worse of all every day.

And half the night, only real butter forever.

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One more here from RCE.

Our other UPS driver, Sean, in the RC says, butter is better, especially when it's from Al Cam Creamery in Richland Center.

They do it great.

All sorts of great local butter in Wisconsin, right?

All right, let's go to you while Ollie in the Northwoods calling back Ollie, butter margarine, what's worse?

Well, margarine is definitely worse.

It's much more watery and I prefer to drink my water.

And butter actually has recently been medically proved to be better for you than margarine.

Right.

So stick with good old Wisconsin butter, I say.

Great call.

Appreciate it, Ollie.

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Zabers we got a text from Megan and son prairie saying I don't know I've never had margarine because the chefs in my family respect food too much to use it Wow, wow, I hated a margarine

8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 let's go to Milwaukee beautiful Milwaukee and WM DX Brian butter or margarine was worse

I'd have to see margarine and I made the mistake once where I was baking

and

I thought margarine was healthier

And if you know what a dump cake is, you literally just take your pie filling, and I use cherry pie filling, put that on the bottom of a 9 by 13.

You then take the chocolate cake mix, put that over, and then you're supposed to take that to butter, put that over the top, top of the oven, 350 for 45 minutes, and everything melts, and you got yourself a cake.

Easiest thing to make in the world.

Right.

Well, I thought, oh, I'm going to be healthy, and I'm going to use barterin.

45

minutes later, I had the most stupidest mess in the world, and I called my mom, going, mom, I thought you told me this was an easy cake to make, and I have to be sober in an hour for a potluck.

What do I do?

Did you use butter?

No, I used barterin.

Well, if I tell you to use butter, you better use butter because with baking, you have to follow the instructions.

That's so true.

You go

out to the store and buy a cake that night.

At least the thing is with butter, now they do prove that it is healthier and at least you can get an unsalted version of it if you want to really tell you about it,

you know,

right?

There you go.

That was that was my biggest making mistake for the easiest thing to make in the world.

I was like, how the hell did you mess up a dump

cake?

By using margarine, apparently, right?

Appreciate the call.

Thanks, Brian.

Thank you so much.

And good luck on the cooking there.

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Kurt listening on WMDX in Madison.

Kurt, butter or margarine, what's worse?

Margarine's worse, and I did a lot of research about the agents and stuff to mitigate bacterial growth while you're sleeping at night.

Well, guess what?

Small pad of butter, smear around in your mouth, swish it around, and... Wait a minute.

Wait

a minute here.

Stop the show.

I want to make sure I understand.

You're saying that instead of brushing your teeth, put butter in your mouth at night?

Oh, in addition?

No,

I didn't say that.

All right, I said that.

Say that before we go to bed, if you take a pad of small amount of butter and smear, you know, use your tongue and move it around your mouth, it'll mitigate a lot of the bad bacteria.

Really?

I have learned something on the show

today.

No, I Google it.

I'm just fascinated because I've never heard it.

Yeah.

All right.

Thank you, Kurt.

Appreciate it.

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Whistler up on the RC, Richland Center, listening on WRCE.

Whistler, Butter or Margeron?

What's worse?

Well,

I would have to say that Margeron is worse.

I remember back in the 50s, early 60s, my aunt and uncle lived in Chicago.

Every time they'd come up to spring green, they'd bring two cases of margarine because it was cheaper than budget.

So that was one of the things that happened in my young life.

But yeah, I think butter is better.

The families can be split apart by stuff like that.

You got to be careful.

Appreciate it, Whistler.

Have a great day up there in the RC.

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Let's go to Chad Holmes Country.

WXCO in beautiful Wasaw.

Dale in Wasaw.

Dale, butter or margarine?

What's worse?

Margarine is worse, but there's a butter, a stick butter is the best.

But there's butters out there now that are spreadable butter.

There's a lot of oil in that spreadable butter, and that's been shown to be detrimental to a person's health.

All this oil in this spreadable butter, but stick butter is the best, margarine is the worst.

Appreciate it, Dale.

Thank you so much.

They also have now, it's called hand rolled butter.

Which is right from the creamery.

They don't even shape it into sticks.

They just take it raw and they roll it until nice a nice little roll Not not like more like an oblong roll basically, huh?

Yeah, it's really good Let's see here.

What's worse butter or margarine when listening to WMDX of Madison says from the aspect of saturated fat butter is worse But for the aspect of America's dairy land Margarine is worse

Tom and Jackson on AUK says, easy, butter is made from real dairy.

It got a bad rap years ago when the corn industry paid for junk science that said butter was bad for you.

Megan, oh, we already did that one.

Let's see here.

What else we got?

We've got Katya in Madison.

Todd, what is the binary thinking?

I like butter and olive oil blend.

Now, that's different, I think, than what our last caller was saying.

You put

And that makes it a little bit more spreadable.

I think as long as it's good olive oil, I think that's fine for you as well.

Although I'm not a doctor, don't take my medical advice.

Tom and Jackson, AUK says later it was proven that in the process of making corn oil to hold shape, it was not good for

you.

Yeah.

Continuing this earlier

comment about

the fake, alleged fake studies that made butter seem worse than margarine.

Yeah.

And in Chippewa Falls on WCFW says, do they still sell margarine?

Butter for sure is better.

Yes, of course they sell margarine.

Yeah, absolutely.

Let in Madison, butter or margarine depends on if you want your dietary application before, after it goes into the cow.

I like that.

That's really good.

I will say, yeah, it is important to have butter alternatives for people who are lactose intolerant.

Sure, exactly.

But that doesn't mean that they're

good.

But they also have pills

for that.

That's true.

For some people, they don't

work as well.

Well, take a pill.

Now, I'm gonna tell you a story.

Well, you got what's worse than honors, butter and margarine.

Margarine.

Yeah, I'm saying it's important to exist.

I'm

not

saying I like

it.

I think I've heard this years, I think I told the story a long time ago on this show.

I'm gonna retell it quickly.

I had a revel, and I grew up in a dairy farming family.

My grandparents on my dad's side were dairy farmers.

So big lover of dairy.

But then, you know, in the 80s or something like that, you know, margarine kind of came on, you know, as the caller said,

There was a texture, a lot of, a lot of fake science paid for by the core industry on, on margarine.

And so I started kind of using margarine because it's supposed to be good for you.

And I was back home from college and my mom used to have, well, she still does have the old kind of the stove, the electric stove with the coils.

And so I was going to fry an egg.

And so I put margarine in the pan to fry an egg.

And then the phone rang before cell phones.

Yes, I know.

And so I went to answer the landline and so I put the pan on its side.

One side of the pan was up on the coil of the electric burner and one was on the flat part of the stove.

And I went, I'm freaking who it was.

And the phone call lasted a couple of minutes and I went back to the stove to fry the egg.

And that big glob of margarine I put in the pan to melt, there was like a big glob of

whatever Still up at the top of the pan and then all this water at the bottom and I thought to myself I'm not putting that my body That there's no way that can be good for you.

And yes, I get it too much, you know cholesterol or any too much of anything is not good for us, right?

But other colors point dairy if you get like good organic butter I mean, it's it's it's milk and salt and enzymes and that's it

And you cannot beat great Wisconsin butter.

As Ken Lewis taught me years ago, you can't beat it with a stick.

So yes, margarine is worse.

It ain't even, and you know, back in the day, like Wisconsin, uh, Olio, he used to call it Olio was outlawed.

And Wisconsin restaurants to this day, you have to carry butter on the table.

That's the law.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2 Tony in Beaver Dam, Tony, butter and margarine.

What's worse?

Oh, I brought it up.

I said, oh, but only was basically margarine.

Well, no, it's got oil right in the name.

Right.

So are you saying that all the oil is worse than than than butter?

Well, of course.

I said that butter is the only thing for people in Wisconsin.

So I'll go along with that.

Have a good day.

Appreciate it, Tony.

Thank you so much.

Tom and Jackson says, if you put margarine, uh, outside animals won't eat it.

I didn't know that.

I've never put, I've never put it outside for an animal to try out.

Uh, well, this was fantastic.

This, this is a good one.

Lots of feelings on this.

Like overwhelmingly people have voted now that margarine.

Is butter better for margarine is worse than butter.

Can we fit a quick one in Steve and Middleton Steve quickly butter or margarine was worse

Margarine's worse, but I usually buy it, but you know the story about Gordy Roslip will be public and from down around Dirlington Yeah, tell it

tell it

quickly he claimed he tried this

pass the law and you couldn't sell oil in the state because of the butter industry and that.

And he claimed he could tell the difference.

So they ran a couple of different demonstrations and he could never tell the difference at all.

I know.

That's a great story.

700 corky road slip.

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It is now nine before the hour of two o'clock at the top of the hour.

Little CBS News Radio or ABC News Radio, depending upon which are great stations across the Civic Media Radio Network that you listen to, followed by a sports update with the great Mike Clemens, our sports reporter.

How about them Wisconsin Badgers last night?

Speaking of Ely, Minnesota, our listeners up there.

Although we're not on you yet, but music is music is I Wisconsin went to the barn in Minnesota last night men's basketball and came away a winner by seven points 74 to 67 big game for the Badgers Jack Janicki This great kid from Minnesota who had D1 offers scholarships passed him by to come to Wisconsin

And I'm not sure if he's a walk-on.

I don't believe it.

I'm not sure he has a scholarship now, but when he came, I don't think he had a scholarship.

Paid in his own way to play for Greg Garder, the Badgers, and Janicki came off the bench, had like six, seven points last night, and like with eight seconds left, took a bad shove or whatever, his face hit the floor, the poor kid chipped his like a quarter of his front, one of his front, and he has beautiful teeth.

That is unfortunate.

And he got, he got up and he picked his tooth up or part of the tooth up off the floor and went to the bench and coach Garber's asked after him.

He was okay.

And he said, he'll be fine.

He just looks like a hockey player right now.

Yeah.

Um, and so I recommended my dentist to them on Twitter.

I said, here, Rob Bradley, go see him.

Great, great dentist here in Madison.

Um, but boy, the Badgers looked, uh, you know, the three point shot.

still not doing great, but badger Wisconsin.

Now, still the number one free throw shooting team in America.

Very impressive.

How about that?

On the other side, Marquette University, bad news for my former boss, Scott Klug, his Marquette Golden Eagles fell 72 to 66 last night to the Yukon Huskies.

But.

I think Marquette will be OK.

They're going to win a couple of games in the tournament, I think.

But with that win last night, now Wisconsin finishes up the regular season with senior night on Saturday.

They take on Penn State at the Cole Center.

You can hear that game on the Civic Media app for free and on select stations broadcast over the air across the state of Wisconsin.

Then on the Big Ten tournament.

which the Badgers, I believe now are right kind of tied.

There's like three teams trying to fight for that number four seed in the Big 10 tournament, which means you get a double buy in the Big 10 tournament.

And right now the Badgers still forecast for a three seed in the NCAA tournament, which means they may, may be able to play their first two games, the Big 10 tournament in Milwaukee at the PhiServe Forum.

That'd be fantastic news.

A couple of this and that knows to end the show.

The Supreme Court ruled five to four uphold a federal judge's order that compelled the Trump administration to release funding for completed projects to contractors and recipients of grants from the US Agency for International Development and the State Department, which amounts to roughly two billion dollars.

So we'll see if the Trump administration actually implements that.

Gives these life-saving foods and medications to people around the world who are dependent upon them.

We shall see also yesterday NBA player LeBron James scored his 50th 50,000 try that again time 50,000 Career has had had 50,000 points Wow and the NBA 50,000 LeBron James incredible great athlete a health secretary

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., the anti-vaxxer.

Get this.

This is interesting.

Acknowledge the value of measles vaccines amid a deadly outbreak in Texas.

I can't do it.

I can't.

The voice is still like I have to take a lot more steroids to do the voice.

I can do it, but I'm not going to do it right now because it is hard on the voice to do it work into it.

Yeah.

Well, you know.

There are a lot of people dying of measles.

So yeah, I mean, vaccines will help.

Apparently Kennedy's motto is you can't lose if you take both sides.

So true.

Well, he kind of has the worst of both sides most of the time.

We did not spend as much time on this today as I had planned, but we had other things going on as it is seemingly now every day.

We mentioned a little bit yesterday as it broke.

I know Jay Mattner mentioned it this morning, talked about it with Greg on their show.

Department of Veterans Affairs planning an aggressive, what they're calling an aggressive reorganization that includes cutting around 80,000 jobs from the sprawling agency that provides healthcare to retired military members, according to an internal memo obtained by the Associated Press and others.

The VA chief, VA chief of staff, Christopher Sirick,

told top-level officials at the agency that it had an objective to cut enough employees to return to 2019 staffing levels of just under 400,000.

That would require terminating tens of thousands of employees after the VA expanded during the Biden administration as well as to cover veterans impacted by burn pits under the 2022 PACT Act.

This is very important.

And we'll continue to talk about this because regular listeners of this show know that few people admire, honor, and respect our veterans and men and women in service and uniform more than me.

And although I never served, I had the honor and privilege of working with them during my time working in U.S.

House of Representatives.

The reason that Biden expanded the VA was to cover these folks

who put their lives in danger overseas, particularly in Afghanistan, and were exposed to all these chemicals that caused them cancer, including Biden's late son, Beau.

And John Stuart has done amazing work to get this for these people.

And now the Trump administration says, thanks, but no thanks.

We say thanks to each and every one of you.

Thanks to Zomers.

Brady Ewing will be here tomorrow talking Badger basketball and more, whatever you're fighting for, whatever you believe in.

Do not give up.

Keep banging your drum.

Maggie Dawn is next.