Following Van Orden’s Lead, National GOP Runs And Hides (Hour 2)

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Following Van Orden’s Lead, National GOP Runs And Hides (Hour 2)

The Todd Allbaugh Show · Tue Mar 4, 2025

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It is six past the hour of one o'clock.

Welcome into hour number two of the big program here on Tuesday, March 4th, 2025.

It's a great day to be in Wisconsinite, a little overcast in downtown Madison, the World Headquarters.

There's a front coming in Zomers.

I got to the age now.

Apparently where my my my eardrums are going crazy today.

Everything feels and hears.

I can feel it in my bones.

My knee always gets sore when it's going to rain.

That's pretty good.

I've reached that age, but no, in all seriousness, there's a big front coming through and people should be aware, particularly our listeners of Northwest Wisconsin.

Avery Hayward.

La Crosse, Eau Claire, Chippewa Valley area.

Those areas could see maybe six inches of snow before it's all said and done tomorrow night.

Elsewhere, the middle part of the state, two to four inches.

Madison here, inch, maybe two on the outside.

And in southeast Wisconsin, maybe nothing at all.

just a lot of rain though lots of rain but needed rain so appreciate the moisture just be aware the driving conditions may deteriorate as we go across the next 48 hours or so lower michigan just on the other side of the river from the cross blizzard warnings i mean this is kind of kind of crazy so

Be aware of that civic media will continue our great weather team will continue to let you know what's happening throughout the next 24 to 36 hours or so as this moves through.

Many thanks to Luke Mathers for being here for Tuesday tangents with Luke Sir.

Always a pleasure to have in the long given opinion.

We always say we're going to talk more sports and then it's been so newsy.

We haven't gotten a chance to do that.

You'll have to set aside and dedicate an all sports hour Yes, or or even just say all right the first 15 minutes with Luke we can talk politics and then it is done no more

We've talked about an egg timer are you gonna get a good you'll get as an egg timer.

No, I'll just turn off your microphones

Very good very good all right lots to lots to get to here this hour including a little what's worse for you have some fun, but also want to get to

A couple of stories.

The tariffs, of course, have been have been put into effect.

I'm going to talk about that a little bit on Canada, Mexico and China.

And also these town hall meetings and First Amendment rights.

Want to talk about that a little bit this hour as well.

But first on these tariffs, they went into effect at midnight.

of those three countries I mentioned, Mexico, Canada, and China.

The first two, of course, are trade partners.

Our allies, President Trump's plan, 25% tariffs on steel imports are already affecting prices for the material.

With the benchmark price for domestic steel reaching more than $900 a ton last week,

a roughly 25% increase on the year.

At the start of Trump's term, a ton of steel sold for less than 700, but domestic producers are now reportedly quoting customers' prices of $1,000 a ton.

While demand for US steel has remained relatively unchanged, domestic producers have raised prices in anticipation

of the tariffs and US prices have now moved above par with important steel.

This is according to Bloomberg reporting.

And here's something we don't do a whole lot.

Play a little Fox News for you.

Stay with me, stay with me.

So this is on the old Maria Bartolamo show or whatever her name is.

Something like that.

This is real.

Fox News just played this a while ago.

A reporter in the field at a Dodge dealership, Dodge truck dealership, even Fox News is reporting how much the tariffs that went into effect at midnight are going to affect us.

This is real folks off of

Fox.

Could be ground zero for the impact on the tariffs, Maria.

This Dodge Ram truck, $80,000 instantly became $100,000.

There you go.

Even Fox News

reporting that overnight, a brand new Dodge Ram truck went from $80,000 to $100,000.

Remember when we went through the pandemic?

And for even like a year or so after Remember how prices just went through the roof on automobiles and even for because here's what happens Nobody wants to pay in or a few people want to pay, you know, a $20,000 surcharge on a new automobile I mean, I mean think about that Dodge Ram.

I mean, I've got a 2016 1500 Dodge Ram So I mean mine's mine's a little old now hundred and eighteen hundred twenty thousand miles on it

I'm going to drive that thing until it falls apart, by the way.

It's just getting broke in.

So I'm not trading anytime soon.

But think about that for a new Dodge Ram 80 grand.

And now overnight, it went up to $100,000.

So what happens is people are like, well, I'll buy used.

Well, because the demand is there on the used that sends those prices to the roof.

By the way.

What's the price increase from $80,000 to $100,000?

25%.

What are the tariffs?

25%.

Funny how that works out.

So again, these are real things are going to start impacting Wisconsinites very, very quickly.

In fact, well, according to Fox, there it already has.

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4842 let's go to the phone lines up to beautiful lacrosse up there along the Mississippi River on WL CX and lacrosse Dana and lacrosse.

Thanks for calling.

We'll see you

Good afternoon dad.

Thank you.

Yeah, I'm just sitting here by the by the river on my lunch before the storm starts rolling in any precipitation up there

Not not yeah, I mean the streets wet just been it was raining this morning earlier, but right at the moment say Now Gordon and Trump the reason we're doing these tariffs are because we're just getting ripped off by Canada and Mexico, correct

That's according to him.

Yes

So that takes me back a few years then because if we're getting ripped off so badly

That we have to now pay a hundred hundred thousand dollars for an eighty thousand dollar truck And that's way out of my range.

I don't even look at it trucks I'm looking at the stuff in my price range, right?

And those aren't even vehicles, but what that tells me is that if you remember back in Trump's first term and this one's for you CJ and and all the mag is out there Let's not call names.

Okay.

Go ahead They tore apart he tore apart NAFTA

Allegedly and created his own best trade deal ever

in his

first turn.

Yeah, and that should be what we're under right now So why is it a terrible deal?

I'll leave it at that and hear your comments off the air

appreciate it.

Thanks Dana.

I appreciate it Yeah, for those who don't know there was the North American free trade agreement was put in you know years ago and During the Trump administration there we did that

Called it one of the greatest things ever and now something Trump actually put in place He's saying forget it And with Canada a lot of this stuff isn't so much immigration.

You know, they're blaming it on fentanyl, right?

How much fentanyl comes into the US or and and and that they don't confiscate enough But if you actually look at the facts according to our own custom and border patrol more fentanyl goes from the United States into Canada

And it's coming from Canada into the United States as it turns out as it turns out eight five five seven five two four eight four two Oli in the Northwoods Oli, thanks for listening up getting a snow up there Oli

Not yet, it's a little cloudy looking but so far pretty good lots of rain last night I just want to say Welcome to Trump's terrorism

care new deal and I just was wondering the gentleman talked about the price of the trucks going up.

I'm wondering how soon Elon Musk is going to be raising the price of his Tesla.

Is that going to go up 25% too?

And is he going to charge the extra 25% to the government for the new cars they've ordered from him?

Yeah, that's a great that's a great question.

I mean Tesla stock already already going down even before this Just based on on his shenanigans and what he's doing So that that's a great question.

Well, we'll see by the way Musk is gonna be there tonight in the chamber during the presidential address We'll see if they talk about that always a pleasure Ali.

Thank you so very much Kurt in Madison texting in a WM DX says with vehicle prices jumping up

Demand for vehicles goes down.

And what will the vehicle manufacturers do?

Cut jobs because the demand has dropped.

And with all the prices of consumables going up, many other products such as appliances will drop because now they no longer have the extra income to buy products.

Isn't that wonderful?

Dana, texting back into lacrosse says it's real hard not to bring it up.

Oh, I got it.

All right.

Individual.

I get it.

I get it.

I just want to say this and I love all of our callers, all of our textures.

But at least on this show, other people can do what they want.

On this show, I just don't want us to bring up specific names of other people who listen to or call into the show.

Let's just make our own points and we'll respect as long as people keep it respectful.

That's great.

I just don't I'm not going to call out people who who listen to the show.

I don't think it's productive.

I think that

That's kind of a 1990s talk radio format to get clicks and to light people up.

And I don't know about you, but I feel pretty lit up the way it is.

I think I think, especially after tonight, I think people are as lit up as they need to be.

So part of the goal of this show is to have thoughtful conversations.

Doesn't mean we can't disagree and be passionate about our points, but let's just not bring up and call out other people.

challenge other people directly.

I just don't think it's productive of getting to a good place of understanding one another.

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Sherry listening in beautiful Huracan.

Sherry, you got 45 seconds.

It's all yours.

What's that?

Hey sweetheart.

I wanted you to know yesterday I went to buy gas.

I was going to buy gas yesterday.

It was 264.

I thought I'll wait another day.

And I heard that it would be like 17 days before the gas prices would be raised.

Today it was 309.

Wow.

Wow.

Yeah.

I appreciate it, Sherry, for that on the ground update.

Yeah.

Gas prices going up.

And Dana, don't worry.

We love your listenership.

All good.

Back after this.

Welcome back to the time of all show on the civic media ready to work.

It is 21 now past the hour of one o'clock on Tuesday, March 4th.

Zombers on the board.

Glad to be along with you.

Gonna get to what's worse, a little taco Tuesday edition for you.

Gonna ask you what's worse.

But I want to make sure we get to this because again, it's just it's fast and furious breaking news out there today.

So earlier this morning, according to Politico or the sound, I guess to be.

Late morning early afternoon in DC.

The chair of the House Republican campaign arm told Republican lawmakers to stop holding in-person town halls amid a wave of angry backlash over the cuts undertaken by President Donald Trump's administration.

Representative Richard Hudson, Republican of North Carolina, the NRCC chair.

delivered the message inside a closed door meeting of House Republicans, according to three people, granted anonymity to describe the private remarks according to Politico.

Trump yesterday dismissed the town hall uproar, much of it trained on the sweeping cutbacks made by the Musk-led doge as being part of the work, Trump said it was part of the work of quote unquote, paid troublemakers.

Many other Republican leaders have adopted a similar tact asserting that the protests Republican lawmakers have encountered have been coerced by Democrats and not reflect, do not reflect genuine voter anger over the Trump cuts.

Speaker Mike Johnson said the people who do this as a profession, they're professional protesters, he said.

He said he thought it was quote unquote wise not to quote play into that unquote and added that the Teletown halls were a good option for members to hear from their constituents.

You just phone in literally phone it in.

I have a little perspective on this, but first let's hear from good old Derek Van Orton, Republican Congressman of Western Wisconsin.

This comes to us from the Heartland signal.

I'm not sure which conservative radio show he was on in Wisconsin.

Maybe it was Vicky McKenna, was it?

What's the Meg Ellison show?

Oh, the Mike Ellison show.

I've never heard of it.

I've never, never heard of it, but okay, great.

Here's Derek Van Horten, courtesy of this sound from Heartland Signal.

Well, it's not just Glenn.

They're over disrupting Fitz's meetings and they did a whole bunch of Republicans around the country.

And I just

People have to understand, you know, a little history buff, and... How people in... How people associated with the communist movement and the national socialism movement used to get their way politically is they would do stuff like this, and they were called agitators.

So this is a time-fisted, proven method.

or very far left and very far right groups to get their way.

And when I say very far right, I mean actual national socialists.

So here's what I told everybody.

We've been getting harassing calls.

I just got four death threats last week, me personally.

If anybody's come into any of these meetings that we have, and they act in an unlawful manner by harassing people, or if they're being disruptive, refusing to leave a venue,

We will have them arrested and charged with the Class B misdemeanor.

I'm not going to put up with these agitators throwing disrespect and acting in an unlawful manner to their fellow Wisconsinites or my staff, period.

F. A. F. O. That's uh, that's

Derek.

We're not doing it.

That was Derek Van Orton, Republican Congressman of, uh, of Western Wisconsin, courtesy of the Heartland signal on conservative radio.

So now comparing people who show up.

constituents who disagree with him, basically calling them Nazis.

And this is a theme today, all planned out.

All planned out.

Donald Trump on his truth social says, quote, all federal funding will stop in capital letters for any college, school or university that allows illegal protests.

Agitators will be imprisoned or permanently sent back to the country from which they came.

American students will be permanently expelled or, depending on the crime, arrested.

And then in capital letters, no masks.

Exclamation point.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Headline on media light Trump threatens to cut all federal funding to universities that allow quote-unquote illegal protest.

What is an illegal protest?

You see how they both use Trump and van Orden the term agitators?

Trig Vilsen talks about this all the time on this show former Republican like myself has fought against autocracies

and fascism in Eastern Europe has been banned by Putin himself from Russia.

I keep saying that because I want you to understand this is not just a political pundit.

Trigvie has lived this to the point where he has banned, he has seen as an enemy of Vladimir Putin.

So this guy knows something about this stuff.

This is a narrative from MAGA.

It's a narrative from Trump.

It's a narrative from Van Orden.

that anyone who shows up as an agitator, and that I'm not sure what their criteria is for an illegal protest.

Now, if you're on a campus where they don't allow overnight camping, and that's in their ordinances or whatever, and you camp there, then well, yes, that's illegal, you're there on that ground.

But if it's in a street or a sidewalk,

or in a public place, as long as you're not vandalizing anything, as long as you're not causing harm, as long as you're not being destructive, that kind of protesting is protected under something called the Bill of Rights.

Freedom of speech.

But do you see the narrative?

We don't like you.

You're causing trouble.

You're pointing out the truth.

We'll call you an agitator and have you arrested and expelled from school if you're a student.

I was working for former Republican Dale Schultz in the state Senate during Act 10.

And during the mining controversies, Dale was the only Republican in the state Senate to vote against Walker's Act 10.

It was Republicans who showed up to his personal home in Richland Center in the mornings at all hours with pickets and blocked his driveway so he and his family couldn't get out.

And you know what his reaction was?

He went out and put salt on the sidewalk.

It was during the winter because he was afraid they're gonna slip I Said the police said he wants to come and do it.

He was no just let him if they're right as long as they don't do anything harmful He had a much calmer approach to that than the staff did by the way And now those same Republicans say that peaceful protesting is agitating Come back take your calls.

What's worse is ahead 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 is the all ball show on the civic media ready network

you

Having fun doing it.

Welcome back to the town of all show of the Pacific media, ready to work zombers on the board.

Glad to have you along here on a Tuesday.

Going to get to what's worse in a moment.

Just want to finish this up.

Derek Van Orton, Republican congressman from the third district, saying now that a people show up to town hall.

By the way, Van Orton hasn't had a proper town hall, I think, going on two years.

I mean, a true town hall where you say, hey, I'm going to be here.

There's plenty of seats in a school auditorium.

I'm going to be here for the next hour and a half.

Anybody is welcome to stop on by.

He almost did.

And then check it out.

Then you check it out.

But Van Orton saying now that he's calling people that show up to disagree with him.

Congressman Grossman, Congressman Fitzgerald and Wisconsin agitators.

Same word that Donald Trump used today in Truth Social saying that.

That these folks are going to be arrested now for for what they're calling quote unquote illegal protests Lawful protesting i.e Having a sign showing up Chanting hey, hey ho ho Whoever has to go As long as you're on a public sidewalk a public street

Anywhere public that is protected under the first under the bill of rights free speech Can't go into somebody's private property and do it and let me make very very very clear I Condemn any act of violence be it to a person or property

I condemn any threats of violence to any person or any property has no place.

Period.

Period.

But we're talking about the right to protest, which is a constitutional right.

And now Trump and Van Orton saying that, well, I have these people arrested.

And again, before the break, I brought up that.

You know, back in 2011, 2012, working for Republican State Senator Dale Schultz, who was the only Republican to vote against Scott Walker's act 10 and held up the raping and pillaging of Wisconsin's conservation resources with the Walker sponsored mining bill.

So they're going to create thousands of jobs up there in Mellon, Wisconsin to date.

The vote or the job tally zero.

Zero.

Anyway, Republicans, there was Republicans in Richland Center, Southwest Wisconsin, that went and picketed my former boss's house, his personal house, stayed on the sidewalk for the most part, blocked the driveway, and my boss's reaction was to go out and salt the sidewalks so they didn't slip on the ice.

Never shut it down.

Texter says it's funny.

There's been no such concerns like those expressed by Van Orden over local school board disruptors.

Great point.

We've seen all kinds of moms for liberty.

Conservatives come to school boards and basically shut them down.

Death threats to school board members because they allow a book in a library that they don't like.

And let's remember that Derek Van Orden has never denied that he verbally assaulted a teenage girl in a library in his adopted hometown of prayer, prayer machine, has never denied Derek Van Orden that he verbally assaulted teenage pages in the United States Capitol after a drinking bender in the US Capitol.

amongst other things.

8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2 8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2 Charles, calling in Milwaukee, VA UK.

Charles, always a pleasure.

We'll see you.

Hey, good afternoon, Kyle.

Well, that, that texture stole my thunder, as Earl would say.

That was my point.

I didn't hear any Republicans

Outraged by the people acting complete like complete idiots at the school board meetings.

You know now over seven they want to complain and say oh well Well, we know we lied to you all but don't come and call us out for it

Yeah, that's a that's a great point that that has happened all over the state, right?

I mean I mean what moms for Liberty people who are just

Upset because of a book at a library have shut down school board meetings people are not running for school board because of death threats and again I condemn any sort of a death threat any sort of physical violence any sort of a vandalism from anyone period full stop But but it's hypocritical at best.

I think For people on the right now to be upset because citizen and we've seen this right Charles We've seen this that people show

up and?

say look I voted for Trump

But I don't like all these cuts and in Republican congressman run for the hills

Well, and they thought time that it was only gonna affect People in the blue states and probably people of color right and not realizing that these federal workers in that like the the military guy that you play That supports Trump and still supports Trump and he's losing his job.

I I don't understand it But I will say

Next week, Monday, Todd, I will call you on Monday afternoon and give you the five things that I did this week.

I appreciate that, Charles.

Maybe we should start doing that on this show.

We should just set aside time and let's tell each other what we have accomplished five things this week.

That's right.

I appreciate you.

Thanks for listening, Charles, down there in beautiful Milwaukee, 855-752-4842.

Whisco Paul.

Whisco Paul, thanks for calling in.

What have you got?

Good afternoon, Todd.

You're so nice to people.

It's unreal.

Well, we got to maintain some sort of decorum around here.

You know, we're all just people.

Go ahead.

Yeah, we

don't want to be like Van Orden.

Right.

The tea party, the tea party comes to mind.

That was, that was pretty rowdy, but, um, I'm fearful here a little bit.

Well, you take Groban over here.

Now he's from a red district and now there was quite a few Republicans there that are mad.

And, um, I don't, if in a, in a present course here, when you have somebody that isn't in government running cuts, just kind of like Willie Milley, it's not really well thought out.

You're going to have people

mad and they should be able to vent as long as it's peaceful.

Heck, even that town was peaceful.

There was no rioting going on there.

They were voice for us, but it wasn't.

I'm going to worry about this.

Are they setting this up for like, if anybody does any kind of disturbance, I mean, peaceful disturbance, which I, if your voice and your opinion, they just

Paul yeah, I mean Well, I think

that's that's the concern and that's the con that's the concern and and I'm I'm at the same time anticipating but also Concerned I sound like I sound like Susan Collins.

I'm very concerned But I'm concerned about what what we're gonna hear tonight at this that mean they're saying that they're going to do something revolutionary We've heard this word now.

There's gonna be a revolutionary speech.

It was this mean

is this fear mongering is this uh the words to get people all nervous and upset or they really go announce something that's completely a counter to the u.s constitution i don't know i don't know so we're gonna have to find out

i'm sorry i didn't mean to interrupt you i will fill this out there i've been around a long time and with what you're doing right now you're going to see a recession um it made it it could be really deep i mean you can't just talk

government people out of work without some ramifications there, because some of the people pay for themselves and these terrorists, that's going to add to inflation.

So, um, do you think people are mad now, which promises Trump made if we go into a deep recession and, um,

But anyway, I'm not going to go any further.

I love you.

We love you.

Thanks for listening.

I really appreciate it.

855-752-4842.

Again, the presidential address by President Donald Trump will be held on this network.

Via the ABC and CPS national anchors starting at 8 o'clock and we will discuss it on all of our programs including this one tomorrow right now It is 44 minutes past the hour of 1 o'clock.

Let's do this time once again for what's worse.

Let's

go

Time once again for what's worse.

No prize, money involved, nothing to give away, but it is your chance to have your voice heard across statewide radio.

All 11 news, talk, sports stations on the Civic Media Radio Network, no better way to get your message out than on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Timely, timely indeed, on a Tuesday as Mike Lucas likes to say, I say that every time because I don't want to think, I'm kind of ripping off his line.

But Mike Lucas used to host this great show called sidelines with all these Wisconsin sports reporters.

And at the end, they take somebody's a letter and you say timely, timely indeed, because they always chose a letter that was pertinent to whatever was going on.

It's a great line.

Anyway, it's Tuesday.

I love tacos.

Do you like a good taco?

Well, of course.

Fantastic question today.

What's worse?

Homemade tacos.

or Taco Bell, homemade tacos or Taco Bell, 855-752-4842, 855-752-4842.

Now there might be some, I mean, I'm not here to hate on Taco Bell.

I've eaten my share of Taco Bell over the years and they do a fine job.

But do you like that on fair for lunch or dinner or whatever?

Or would you prefer to make a homemade taco?

Now,

Some people might not know how to make a homemade taco.

So the question is, what's worse?

Homemade tacos or Taco Bell?

855-752-4842, 855-752-4842, or you can text on the Civic Media app like Wisco Paul on WMDX as that's too easy.

Taco Bell is worse.

All right.

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Ted, listening in beautiful Appleton, home of Harry Houdini.

Ted, what's worse, homemade tacos or Taco Bell?

Well,

I got several of them.

What's worse than having Taco Bell is having Taco Bell and trying to listen to Civic Radio 96.5 when it's off the air.

Oh no!

No, if we're down,

we're down for that.

I'm sure we're on top of this.

Are

you being serious?

Are you

goofing around?

Yeah, no.

Oh, it's been out all morning since early this morning when I started listening.

I'm sorry.?

We're on it.?

Thank you.?

We're on it.?

We're on it.?

I appreciate it.?

You know, we're still one of a startup once in a while.

All right.?

Thank you.?

We appreciate it.?

Well, what do you got?

What do you got?

Homemade tacos or Taco Bell?

What's worse?

Taco Bell.

That's I threw Taco Bell in that.

All right.

Taco Bell is worse.

Taco Bell is worse.

All right.

Do you like a good?

Are you a hard shell or a soft shell guy?

Soft shell.

All right.

Very good.

I like soft shells.

They're that way you can hold them better.

and they don't fall all over you.

Now here, look, that's true.

That's true.

Ted, Ted, here's how much we think of you.

One of our fantastic engineers, Casper is on top of this.

He is tech.

He's listening.

He has responded.

There is a power outage in the area.

It is out of our hands.

So as soon as the power is back up, 96.5 will be back up as well.

Look at that.

What kind of service?

You can't?

get service like that at Taco Bell.

No, and the sales guy

didn't say nothing about that

You got directly directly from the horse's mouth or one of our great engineers, thank you Ted I appreciate that and thanks to Casper So there you go the students the powers back on so will 96.5 Sean listening in Richland Center on to be RCE one of our great UPS drivers is Taco Bell is worse on Richland Center

RC tacos in the RC is awesome.

That is a fact ever out in Richland Center go to RC taco.

Um, that's, that's great stuff.

Uh, let's see DJ in Wausau.

Let's see the WXO says homemade tacos are worse.

Have you ever had Taco Bell breakfast?

I get

breakfast is good.

I get the sausage breakfast crunch wrap combo.

Twice a week for breakfast, the bag practically has a rainbow coming out of it.

Oh, wow.

All right.

Very good.

Let's see.

A Roger and Stevens Point says, if you want a delicious, no, that's not nice.

Says you want a delicious laxative.

It's Taco Bell.

Along

those lines, somebody on YouTube, Jiju, I think, says, as someone with IBS, Taco Bell is worse.

I can control what goes into homemade tacos.

And I got to agree there.

All right.

Steve in Milwaukee says, I love both.

But obviously, homemade tacos are better for you.

Come back more what's worse on a Tuesday, homemade tacos or Taco Bell, 855-752-4842.

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Glad to have you along.

Zommerz and I are right in the middle of a what's worse for today.

It's Tuesday.

Lots of people do a Taco Tuesday.

What's worse?

Homemade tacos.

or Taco Bell.

855-752-4842.

855-752-4842.

You can also text us on the Civic Media app.

Our listener Dave in New Berlin.

This is great.

Dave says, Taco Bell is PETA friendly.

No cattle are killed.

He's employing this not real meat.

It's just I don't

think that's true.

It is not.

It's not true, but it's funny,

but it's funny Nicely done Dave 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2

No other new ones yet.

No other new ones yet.

You can also a text us on the civic media You know you have a preference summers.

Yeah, I first of all I agree with I believe it was

Was it Ted and Appleton who you asked about Soft Shell?

I think so, yeah.

Yeah, I agree that Soft Shell is better because I feel like anytime I eat a hard shell taco, whether it's homemade Taco Bell or anywhere else, I think about touching the shell and it shatters.

And never, never even think about taking a bite.

If I take a bite, it's all gone.

It's all, it's out.

Jaws and steel.

No, I don't even feel like I'm biting hard or anything.

I just get annoyed by that.

And so I would prefer a soft show, but also you're a

hard biter.

That's what

you're saying I'm not gonna comment on that but To homemade tacos are definitely I Agree with another YouTube commenter as well that as somebody with digestive system problems.

I prefer to be able to control it goes in my Tex-Mex so Taco Bell is worse for me

listener on to be xcl, but beautiful wash off says

DJ.

Oh, this is fantastic.

DJ in the saw is my husband and I can attest that his let's see here.

What's going on?

We are my computer froze up here.

I got to get this up in front of me.

This is fantastic.

This is always great when spouses dial in.

So this is a DJ in the saw of my husband and I can attest that his Taco Bell obsession grosses me out.

Taco Bell is.

Definitely worse that is surely in the saw now.

This is fantastic.

This this is exactly what we want We have a husband wife duo here dueling on Taco Bell live on the air.

That's fantastic What else here?

Steve in Milwaukee says you have digestive problems.

Don't get the Dorito loco taco or the flaming taco

Just stay away from all of that Brian listening Milwaukee at the UK's Taco Bell is nasty what's worse is the speed at which it comes out the other end Lots of digestive information here On a Tuesday what's worse homemade tacos or Taco Bell 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 um

Yeah, I think I'll take a good homemade taco any day over time now.

I'm not hating on Taco Bell.

I've certainly had it when I like a Taco Bell I'm not sure if they make it anymore.

It's those short chorizo not real chorizo or Churros Churros It's like they the dough that they they fry and they roll it and sugar and cinnamon I like those but no a good homemade taco now.

I grew up on the old old-fashioned Ortega

You bought your taken taco mix at the at the shells that had the at the sauce that had the spices and it was like a kit They still sell those really we grew up on those and then you know, we didn't in Richland center We didn't have soft tacos till about 1986 We didn't have we were we were a

hard taco family you understand there's no way you couldn't buy tortillas.

I would be

Look, I'm not sure if we have those.

Wilson's market or no

way.

And super value.

I'm not sure if they sold those back then, but we always had the hard shells growing up.

And then it wasn't until I, I explored in college with soft shell tacos and I discovered some things about myself, which was soft shell tacos are delicious.

And I like a good homemade, like a pulled chicken.

Soft

shell that is good.

That is good.

Yeah.

And of course, if you go to like actual Mexico or other places and get real tacos, that's a whole nother.

That's a whole nother.

Now here, look at this.

WMDX listener are our tag and taco kids are the best.

Reminds me of homemade tacos when I was a kid.

See that's

exactly what I'm talking about.

Yeah.

Matt in Richland Center, our other UPS driver.

This is fantastic.

Says, let's get real here.

Your McCormick.

packet and ground beef as a joke compared to a Doritos Locos Taco.

I will say that has feelings.

And Taco Bell has its place.

If you want the specific Taco Bell taste, you're not going to be able to replicate it at home.

You can't do it.

Just like you can't make a Rocky for Coco's Pizza at home.

It's impossible.

I've tried.

You can't do it.

You can only get it at certain things.

You can only get it at the places you buy it.

That's fine.

And Doritos Locos Taco, that's one of them.

That's one of them.

All right.

That's how we play.

That's how we play.

What's worse?

Thank you very much.

Appreciate everybody calling in.

We'll, we'll do another round tomorrow.

That was a lot of

fun.

A lot of people have feelings of tacos.

So there you go.

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You can tune in right at eight o'clock sharp.

Xamarin is going to be here to make sure that it gets on the air unless he had a local taco.

We'll see.

No, it'll be it'll be fine.

It'll be fine.

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