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Fighting For Right To Repair with Sen. Sarah Keyeski (Hour 2)
The Todd Allbaugh Show · Wed Feb 26, 2025
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Good afternoon, everybody.
I'm Tom Albaal.
Along with Mr. Aaron Zommers, our producer and engineer, it is six past the hour of one o'clock.
Welcome into hour number two of the big program here.
It is Wednesday, February 26th, 2025.
It is a great day to be Wisconsinite, and it is...
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Day!
Look at that.
The camel has made it with us here to the middle of the week.
Glad to have you along with us.
But thanks to Trig V. Olson, Senior Advisor at the Lincoln Project, as well as Mike Johnson, Superintendent of Public Schools and beautiful Eau Claire for being here in hour number one, coming up in hour number two at the bottom of the hour.
Stick around because I'm going to have some great information for you after the bottom of the hour news at 1.34.
New Freshman State Senator Sarah Kayeski is going to be here in our studio summary.
I understand now, this is the benefit of being downtown Madison.
We have right near the Capitol and the walk on downs.
We have Senator Kayeski is going to be here in person in the studio.
that happens.
So look, and Senator Kayeski represents the old hometown now.
in Richland Center, so she is a very diverse district.
We'll talk to her about this.
She is from Lodi, but the district goes from all the way in Richland Center and parts of Sock County and stretches over into right here in parts of Dayton County.
So it's an eclectic group of people that she represents, and she is going to be here talking about her co-sponsorship
The right to work bill or right to repair right repair.
I'm sorry.
Good Lord
very different things Yeah, I'm doing three things at once.
Yes, right to repair right to repair.
people nearly fell off their chairs there no right to repair bill and I know I know that Center path
was on, I believe, Jane McNair's program yesterday talking about this.
And so now one of the other co-sponsors, Sarah Kayeski, is going to be here talking about it as well.
And what this boils down to is say, you know, if you're a farmer or somebody and you've got a tractor or a piece of equipment that you should, I mean, it's just common sense.
Most people think, well, yeah, you should be able to work on your own equipment.
No, no, no.
As it turns out,
that's harder than it thinks.
Are you harder than you think?
So Senator Kayski will be here to explain that.
And we'll also talk to her about, she's a lovely person.
We first met her down in beautiful Muscaday last year when she was a candidate.
And she was there to listen to folks from Richland Center on the closing of the two year campus.
One of the few people that actually either Republican or Democratic that took time to come and listen.
And so she was there.
And I think she's someone who really has
communities and focus.
So it'll be great to catch up with her and find out our first few months or first few weeks of being in offices.
So Sarah Kayesky at the bottom of the hour, state senator.
So all of that and much, much more.
We're going to try to fit in before the end of the show.
And I know it means people, late night people were making fun of this last night.
And first, I guess it is kind of funny, but it's also this is actually pretty serious stuff.
Joanne fabric.
Closing every store.
I know there's a lot of people in Wisconsin that use join fabric and it's not just fabric it's baking supplies and it's and it's Decorations and things like that and a craft anybody who crafts This is a this is a big deal because yes There are some stores that might carry some of this but join fabric.
It's been a mainstay and they're going out of business.
Yeah, so get get there quickly because
Going on a business soon.
We'll talk a little bit more about joy and fabric going on business as well And we're gonna have a what's worse for you But first of all I want to go back to the phone lines 8 5 5 7 5 2 4 8 4 2 and Go out to our friend LA Tom out in beautiful Los Angeles, California now LA I know you don't you have more going on in your life than just us But I was wish you would have been on yesterday because of our what's worse yesterday was what's worse New York
or Los Angeles and we're not talking about the people you understand.
It's just that there's the Los Angeles mayor Karen Bass who fired the fire chief there just doesn't seem to be taking a lot of responsibility.
And then in New York, you got Eric Adams out there who's he's a schmuck and now under Trump's control.
And so we had this debate yesterday on what's worse, LA or New York.
Would you like to weigh in?
I would like to say New York because it's much, much more congested.
And it's much more of a city where LA really is a tapestry of towns.
It is.
It's a lot of small kind of feeling of towns, you know, throughout the whole area of Los Angeles.
And New York is, honestly, it's more like San Francisco.
It's just a city and you have to go over a bridge or you have to go far away in order to get away from the city.
And I'm one of those people, you know, I like my
small town where I grew up and I think that's made my, even though my town, my city, whatever North Hollywood is, you know, probably 300,000 people, it still has, you know, neighborhood type places where you feel like you're in the small town.
That was my point.
Yeah, I've spent a lot more time in LA than I have New York City, but I've been to both.
And I was going to my point that, that if you're just going to say LA like downtown LA,
If I had to judge it on downtown and also the traffic for me in LA, if you're going places, that's what kills me.
But to your point, the tapestry of cities, I mean, I could, if I had the money, I could live in Pasadena.
I mean, I just think that area is spectacular.
I love Pasadena and it's all these, you know, I've been spending some time at Hermosa Beach and Downey, you know, West Hollywood.
I
just great little
Yes, they're not little I know but to your point they're communities and I think that's a beautiful part about LA, but that's not why you called go ahead
Right the reason I called is I was actually helping my mom yesterday to try to learn how to call her congressperson
know and give her opinion and I actually and Derek as I should be would say Derek Van Odd one is her
as her representative.
And I actually got him, he was actually in the, in the room when the call came through and he got on the phone with me.
Really?
And I have to tell you, yeah, the man is a very, very rude, rude, rude person.
Um, when I was sober, very interesting to say that because when I, when I talked to him,
First of all, Aaron was great.
Aaron is the person that takes the calls, and Aaron was good.
And then he, like, practically grabbed the phone away from Aaron and started talking to me.
And I said to him, I said, I don't want, or my mom does not want for any of the cuts to come from Medicare, Social Security, or Medicare or Medicaid.
And he was like, oh, we're not going to take anything from there, no matter what.
And I said, OK, I said, I don't want tax cuts going to the U lines.
And I don't want them going to the Bradley Foundation.
I don't want them going to Widow Hendricks.
He was like, why do you call her Widow Hendricks?
They got it all defensive with me.
I said, well, she is a widow and relaxing Hendricks.
That's a lot.
If you were, oh, that is more, the most, the sweetest, respectful thing I've ever heard a person say, I said, sir, I'm your, I am your constituent.
My mother is your constituent.
You need to learn that you actually work for us.
We don't work for you.
And he cursed at me on the, on the phone.
I can't remember what he said, what if a bull asked or what it was.
But he said, if you think we're going to cut something there, then I'll buy you a beer.
And then I said, well, what I understand, you need to slow down on your drinking.
And you need to maybe not be buying people beers or talking about beers when you're working.
I said, and also please be nicer to your staffers.
And I told the staff or Aaron, I said, Aaron, what you ought to do is you ought to run for political office.
And you're probably doing most of his work anyway.
But yeah, I thought that was really, really quite interesting.
I'm very astonished.
I actually got him.
But two, what a rude, rude person and what a, um, unbuttoned.
I asked him, I'm saying, when is the town hall meeting going to be?
And he says he's going to have one, I guess in March.
Um, when he gets back or whatever.
And I said, okay, well, you know, my mom wants to be put on the mail and they're on the list to let her know where it is.
And my sister's also live in that area.
Um, want to all know, you know, when it is, and he was so like I said, it was, it was rude.
I appreciate you sharing this story.
We got to run by really, really appreciate LA calling in.
That's interesting.
I have a firsthand account.
Of course, Derek Van Oorten has been, uh, you know, it does not deny.
that he verbally attacked and assaulted a teenage librarian in prayer machine where he lives.
He has also not denied that he verbally attacked and assaulted teenage pages in the US Capitol after drinking too much out there.
So this guy has a history of being rude to people.
That's unfortunate.
Appreciate the call.
855-752-4842.
Let's go to Gary in Sussex.
Gary, a couple of minutes before the break.
Let's see.
Okay.
Well, first of all, I wanted to call up and I thought that was a little bit.
out of line with matt yesterday our friend our friend
our friend like matt flinn was on this show yeah
yeah matt okay now i i took offense to the fact that when he when he said he thinks that you know republicans or whatever yeah took offense to that but what i do want to i want to say and i want to apologize because normally i'm pretty calm about things you know but i do want to apologize for that well that's nice thank you as far but as far as um you know do you know donnie deutch's
i do not
Okay, well, he's not CNN.
Okay.
He's very popular.
Okay.
He said last night that I'm not quitting the Democratic Party and I'm gonna become an independent because the Democrats have just gone so far now for you and your listeners if you guys like me I listen to all I listen to everybody if I listen to only the view
Like my wife does, I have to deprogram my wife every single night when I come home because she attacks me and oh, what about Donald Trump?
I said, where'd you get it?
Well, it's on the view.
Now,
this is very interesting.
I want to be appropriate.
I don't want to go too far down this road.
But I think it's very interesting.
Couples that your wife is obviously an avid Democrat, your avid Republican.
Does does that affect your relationship?
This is a thing.
My wife is a Republican, but when she watches the view, she gets tainted all the time, and she says, all this other sort of stuff.
So I have to bring her back to the... Wait a minute.
Tainted?
Gary, tainted?
She just hears an opposite view.
That's not tainted.
That's being smart.
Right, but she doesn't watch it.
She doesn't watch Newsmax or she doesn't watch Fox.
She really doesn't watch it, but she listens to the view and she votes
Republican.
I'm telling you, Todd, it's terrible.
All right, I gotta run, Gary, but thanks for the apology to Matt.
I appreciate that.
Back with more on the other side.
Cindy's waiting on the line, and we'll get to it once worse as well.
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That's the part.
That's the part about this show.
I love two unexpected calls.
Now, Gary's phone call was very, very interesting because well, they both were LA Tom and talk to Derek Van Orton Ward.
Right.
The only person that I know so far.
Who's actually talked to Congressman van Orden personally on the phone as a as a constituent so that's very interesting And then we add Gary from success calling in and revealing that that his wife, you know to use gets all ginned up by by the women on the view And then he has to come home and have these have these you know marital political spats
One of our one of our textures on the text line says, sounds like Gary's wife might be one of those secret Republican wives voting for Kamala Harris.
I don't know.
I mean, you don't know, right?
I mean, you don't you don't know who people people go on the in the voting booth.
But but also it's very kind of Gary to call and, you know, he and Matt Flynn, you know, got into a little debate on the show on Monday and Gary calling in to apologize.
So see it right there.
We can all get along.
We can all we can all get along because I appreciate that eight five five seven five two four eight four two.
Let's go to Cindy listening in Appleton hometown of Harry Houdini.
Cindy, thanks for calling and listening.
What say you?
Well, I'm just wondering who's going to do the job loss report for the first hundred days because I don't know if we can trust anything that comes out of that administration, but I'll be curious to see how many jobs.
actually were lost in his first great 100 days.
That's a great point that we have not been talking about, Cindy.
I appreciate it, right?
I mean, usually presidents brag over Elizabeth Job creation, my first 100 days.
There is going to be a net job loss like nobody's business, like nobody's business in this first 100 days under Donald Trump.
thousands and thousands of people be laid off by Trump.
Lots of federal workers, by the way.
It's called like the fork in the road where it's like, you should probably go to the private sector.
If you don't, there's no guarantee you can still work here at the VA hospital or whatever.
And so effectively getting laid off just might be delayed a few months.
Right.
I'm gonna send, I'm gonna send, this is a radio production in real time, Zomers.
I'm sending you a cut, I forgot to do this.
This is good ol' Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Trump, Trump Acolyte, Republican member of Congress, Ultra Maga.
Now think about this.
James Carville was talking about this on CNN with Anderson Cooper last night.
James Carville, longtime Democratic strategist, saying his dad,
was a proud postmaster for years.
Think about how many people in our communities, our friends, our families, our neighbors are post-post people, I guess you have to say, but postal workers, carriers, letter carriers, federal employees.
Think about all the people that worked at our Veterans Affairs Hospitals, Veterans Affairs Nursing Homes at King.
All the people that take care of our veterans, federal employees.
Think about our agriculture workers, USDA.
federal employees.
They are part of what makes Wisconsin great.
Here's what Marjorie Taylor Greene, Donald Trump's lieutenant, thinks
of all the people I just mentioned.
You can protest all you want outside of departments of this government.
You can protest all you want, but the American people disagree with you.
You're protecting the bureaucracy.
The bureaucracy is not a business.
Those are not real jobs producing federal revenue.
By the way, they're consuming taxpayer dollars.
Those jobs are paid for by the American tax people who work real jobs, earn real income, pay federal taxes, and then pay these federal employees.
Federal employees do not deserve their jobs.
Federal employees do not deserve their paychecks.
And these are jobs that can be fired at will.
Federal employees do not deserve their jobs.
That's what Donald Trump and MAGA believe if you are a federal worker.
Tom L.A.
Tom on YouTube says, where's her income coming from?
That's a good point.
Great point, L.A.
She is a federal employee, by the way.
Cadillac Healthcare being paid for by you and I, the American taxpayer.
855-752-4842.
Let's go to Mark, give a prayer to Zach.
Mark, if you can make it quick, please.
What's eight?
Yeah, well, maybe Gary's one that needs to be programmed.
I was away from the radio for a bit, but I don't know if you've seen the
little Trump turning gas into this little paradise where
oh yeah
all kinds of old statues to Donald Trump I mean it's just disgusting
well that's but I'm glad you brought that I'm glad you brought this up mark because I want to get this in I don't want to spend a lot of time on it all the people and I saw this firsthand in Madison all the people that had encampments down at the University of Wisconsin Madison
pro-Palestinian, pro-Gaza.
You have people putting anti-Semitic graffiti on the parking garage where I parked my truck in every day.
All these people having to say that I can't vote for the lesser of two evils because Kamala Harris is as bad as Donald Trump.
He won't be that bad.
So we're going to stay home.
All of us in Dearborn, Michigan, we're going to stay home and send Kamala Harris the Democrats a message.
Well, how's that working out for you?
because those folks are as guilty as the mug of voters in making sure that this happened what we have right now.
And Donald Trump put out a sick video to Mark's point talking, literally he's calling it Trump Gaza.
Trump Gaza.
So how did that work out?
All you great folks on the progressive left who wanted to stay home, take a powder, not so hot.
Mark, are you still here?
Do we have time to bring Mark?
But Mark, do you agree or disagree?
I agree.
I mean, it's just ridiculous that they shouldn't own better.
And I'm just sad that it's just disgusting.
I mean, the whole golden calf thing that they've got going with him, it's just sad.
And he put this on his true social.
Trump did.
Yes, he did.
Yes, he did.
I mean, it
was fake when I first saw it, but he actually did it.
No, he actually did it.
It's a real deal.
Appreciate the call, Mark.
Come on back.
More phone calls.
Phones are lit up.
We'll take your phone calls in order that they're received.
855-752-4842.
855-752-4842.
We will get to what's worse, eventually, here.
And we have, actually, you know what?
We have Sarah Kayasky.
State Senator Sarah Kayasky is here.
We got into the phone call.
So stay with us.
Sarah Kayasky is on the other side.
So we have so much fun.
We get distracted a little bit.
But come on back.
More on the other side.
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34 minutes now past the hour of one o'clock on this Wednesday, February 26th, 2025.
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last uh last segment as well we'll try to sneak into what's worse before the end of the of the show here but right now we are joined by new freshman state senator from the
14th district here in the state of Wisconsin, Sarah Kieske, who is from the, we'll call the South Central part of the state, but reaches over into the old neighborhood there in Richland County.
And she was here in person for those watching on stream, YouTube, Facebook, whatnot.
It's great, Senator, to have you here in person and kind of one of the advantages we have only being a block away from the Capitol.
Yeah, it's a really easy little commute I have.
Well, welcome to the show.
We met last, last summer, fall, when you were
campaigning down in Muscadio, Wisconsin for those that don't know that's just south of Richland County.
And there was a listening session there and it was regarding the closure of the two-year campus at Richland Center.
And you were there along with now former Representative Katrina Shanklin and Senator Royce as well.
And I was so impressed that even though you weren't a senator yet, you took time out of your campaign to listen.
and then to give your viewpoint.
And I think regardless of partisan politics, that so many people in Wisconsin are just looking for an elected official who will legit listen and then hear what they're saying.
Is that what you attribute to part of your, you knocked off an incumbent, which is not an easy thing to do.
Do you attribute your listening skills to part of your
victory?
I guess you would have to ask the voters right fully but I think people did experience from me a sense that I really
do care and I do really want to hear from them.
Just who I am as a person that has always worked in the service field of being a counselor, my greatest skill probably is listening and trying to hear the heart of what is going on for somebody.
And so I brought that to the table just because that's who I am.
And so I think it is
As somebody that wants to be in service to people, that skill I think is a little bit underrepresented and much needed.
So I think people appreciated it a lot and then hopefully that was one of the reasons.
Your district, the 14th, I call it an eclectic district.
Maybe that's not the right word, but it stretches from basically the east side of Madison and then north kind of along the interstate.
And then encompasses goes west into, you know, parts of Salk County into my home county of Richland County in southwest Wisconsin.
You're originally from Lodi.
Is that where you grew up
at?
No, I grew up in a small town called Kashton, Wisconsin.
Yeah.
No, exactly where Kashton is.
Oh,
really?
Yeah.
So, you know, when I grew up, it was about 850 or so as the population.
Now, I think it might be a thousand.
So a really small town in Monroe County.
And so, but I've lived in Lodi now since 2017.
Wow.
Yeah.
No, Cashion, for those who don't know, just North Richland County, kind of south of the cross, and Organic Valley Dairy has expanded there, and it's a huge part of their economy out there in Cashion.
So you live in a Lodi.
Tell us a little bit about yourself, your background, and what led you to run for the state Senate.
Yeah, so my background is, like I said, I grew up on a dairy farm.
And so I was really deeply entrenched in living in small rural Wisconsin.
And all that entails, right?
That means you know the neighbors, you know the business of the neighbors, you also help the neighbors when things are going wrong.
You grow up in a small rural school, which is really the bedrock then of that community.
I went off to study.
I have a master's degree.
in counseling psychology, and I've worked for 25 years doing counseling services for individuals, couples, and families.
And that's just been my passion for all these years.
I've just loved my work.
But with the changes in the political landscape, I became more concerned about the world I was leaving my children and bringing our children into and became increasingly more active.
in just the political realm and wanting to do my part.
And that transitioned into starting a nonprofit when COVID hit our small community, because it really seemed to divide us in a way that was so unfortunate, both because I think...
We all were choosing to live there because we care about that small connected piece that we were seeking in that rural lifestyle.
But with the changes and the pools of political division, there's just so much rancor.
And I was then seeing where I brought my children, where I was raising them, it became kind of a hostile environment.
And I just felt so compelled to just do whatever I could.
As a mental health provider, that meant
Well, how do you help people feel better?
How do you help people care about each other?
So it was really just this idea of then focusing on how do we work together?
How do we uplift our environment?
It was called Lift Load.
I was really coming together in service of one another.
And from that, I...
inadvertently just got on the radar of people that said, hey, Sarah, will you do more?
Because we like what you stand for.
We like what you're trying to do, your mission of service.
And so initially I was asked to run in an unwinnable assembly district.
And I said, well, why would I
ever do that?
Well, good for you then, because you know how hard it is to run.
You know, and so then it's just a passion project, really.
what I was willing to do.
Again, I was so concerned about what was happening on the national level, local level.
And so I said, yeah, I will do that because, again, that's my way to serve.
So I was doing that.
And then the new maps came about.
And then I thought, OK, good.
Now people do want to run in that district because it became more winnable, possibly.
And after a lot of people had conversations that I didn't know anything about, I was asked, would I be willing to instead move to run for the Senate?
And I think that really just came from people.
seeing who I was seeing what I stood for and and getting behind that and I really honestly is really kind of this unbelievable journey that I didn't expect and now like a you know about a year later um here I am and it's amazing and I would have never predicted it but it feels absolutely like the right place to be.
Well, I just appreciate you sharing your story.
Well, we all have a journey.
And from what I've seen, this is a very grassroots thing.
And you're an authentic person, you're genuine, you are who you are.
And I think that really connects with people.
We're talking to State Senator Sarah Kieske, a new freshman here, Democrat from, well, we'll call it Southwest, South Central Wisconsin.
One of your first bills here, your co-sponsoring Senator, is something that...
I didn't even really know it needed until I kind of dug into this is called right to repair.
Tell folks why this is needed and why you're a co-sponsor.
So yeah, so it's something that I did here on the campaign trail and I too was quite fascinated by it because when I was growing up again on the small farm that we had my dad just repaired his own equipment That's what he did, you know every small engine he you know kind of and he Jimmy rigged a lot of things.
He was like the natural MacGyver and so So to me when I learned about this, I didn't even quite know what what do you mean you can't
fix your own equipment and really the tools and some of the products that are needed for fixing are now limited to just these dealerships that have sold you the equipment and so you can't do your own repairs.
Um, and so it's cost prohibitive oftentimes to either go through that dealership only because it's a bit of a monopoly, right?
It limits your choices.
Um, and so, and, and you weren't able, um, initially now it's gotten better to have access to those products.
Let's say it's a computer program oftentimes now because these equipment, this machinery now is this so advanced, but in order to even get access to that, it's
thousands of dollars and you've already paid into a piece of equipment that was hundreds of thousands of dollars right and so it's it's but if you did work on your own equipment or if you had you know a local trusted repair person that could equate with your warranty is no longer good right and so you you're kind of stuck
And so this is just an opportunity to say, okay, people should have the right to have access at a fair cost, a fair cost.
Not saying that they can't make some profit.
I mean, I'm not anti-business, right?
But I am for competition.
And so in order to be able to then be able to get access to this and or have a independent,
mechanic have access to this so that they can work on your equipment.
So you can have somebody that you know and have a relationship with or is closer to you or is more available at a desperate time of need because when do tractors maybe break down?
When you need them the most.
When you need them the most,
right?
And when are they new to the most?
It's during harvesting, right?
Or planting.
Who else is harvesting?
everybody.
And so if it has happening, then it might be a epidemic of time.
And if you have a limited resource of people that can service your equipment, you might be waiting.
and you can't wait when you're a farmer.
You need to be able to have that fixed expeditiously.
So that's kind of the concept behind it and why it's so necessary.
Yeah, my granddad was a farmer in Richland County, dairy farmer for 40 years, and he had a Minneapolis boolean, and then he was one of the first people, a doigt that was called at the time, one of the first German tractors.
He worked on it all the time, and I think he would look at this bill that you are cosponsoring, the right to repair bill, and say, well, this is just common horse sense, as he used to say.
And we're talking to State Senator Sarah Kieske here on her new co-sponsorship of the Bill Right to Repair Bill.
I think this would surprise a lot of people.
I know State Senator Paff was on Jane McNair's show yesterday, the day before, talking about this as well, that there are maybe apps available, because so much of this, like our cars now are computerized, but again, that costs thousands or hundreds of dollars just to download the app.
And really, I would think that Ag...
people, agriculture producers, owners of this equipment would say, look, it doesn't matter what party you're from, we should all be able to work on our own equipment without costing thousands of dollars.
Have you talked to any Republicans so far in the legislature?
Have you gotten a sense that there might be a bipartisan approach to a very common sense bill?
I'm going to remain hopeful.
I like that.
Yes, I'm going to remain hopeful.
let's just wait and see.
I'm gonna cross my fingers because like you're saying, farmers come in red and blue or purple or indifferent, right?
And so I don't think this should be a partisan issue.
I think it's just understanding, this is helping the cornerstone of our economy, right?
We're helping those farmers help them with their costs, which we know we need to do more to make sure that costs aren't just so out.
going out of out of reason and we also want to be able to have maybe small businesses benefit so you know some mechanic maybe could blossom a new business in a small area where he knows he could have
agricultural equipment he could work on, and then it's another opportunity for jobs.
We're coming up about a minute and a half.
The time always goes quickly.
You have other appointments to go to, so we don't want to monopolize your time.
But Senator, is there anything I haven't asked you about your co-sponsorship of the right to repair bill that you believe that listeners should know?
Nothing in particular, I think.
Just understanding, again, it's kind of simple, if you will.
Yeah, common
sense.
Yeah, I don't know that we need to make it that.
that complex, right?
Do people believe that others should have the right to either repair their own equipment at a fair, reasonable cost, have access to the things they need and or be able to have it with an independent repair person?
That just makes good sense.
That seems like it helps with, again, access and keeping something from being too monopolized in a way that I don't think is honoring
competition in the way that we really do need to in the business field.
Yeah, I agree.
Minute left here.
Give us a sense.
You haven't really had a proper floor session yet other than your inauguration, but what's it like just to be in the building?
Oh my gosh, it's like it's it's magnificent and it's it's so hard to explain what it's like as a new person because you know I walk in and you know it's it's magnificent but then like the next day you'll notice something else about you know like maybe it's the doorknob and how how how intricately designed it is right or you look at the the panels on the walls in this new committee room I mean it's just ornate it's
And then you also, you look at, oh, sorry, the pictures of the people that have been there.
It's great.
You're
just like, it is such a historical moment.
It is such a privilege.
It's
a privilege to have you on the show.
We'll have you back soon at State Center, Sarah Kieske.
Thank you so much.
Oh my gosh, it's just my pleasure.
Thank you,
Todd.
Our pleasure.
Come on back.
We'll wrap things up after this on Civic Media.
Welcome back to the Taliban show on the civic media radio network.
It is now nine before the hour of two o'clock on the top of the hour.
ABC and CBS News, depending upon which of our great stations you're listening to all across the civic media radio network.
And then Maggie Dawn in from two until four every afternoon.
The Maggie Dawn show
Always a fantastic treat.
I believe if I heard correctly on the promos, Mr. Summers, our old friend Matt Rothschild filling in for Dom Selvia today.
he will be on the show.
You'll get a dose of Matt, and that's always a good thing.
He's a great guy, and stay tuned for that as well.
Pete Schwaba tonight on Night Light with Pete and Conrad so be aware and be there for that.
Many thanks to State Senator Sarah Kieske.
What a wonderful person she is.
No, it's absolutely fantastic and it's good to hear an elected official who's working on legislation that affects real issues with real people.
I mean, here's something, doesn't matter whether you've got a snow blower or a $100,000, $200,000 tractor, whatever it might be, everyone should be able to work on their own equipment in their garage or the worst shop or whatever.
is
Yeah, absolutely.
I'll scroll the phone lines quickly, 855-752-4842.
Jack in Merrimack, standing by.
Jack, always glad to have you along.
What have you got for us today?
Well, two things.
First of all, Marjorie Taylor and Ian.
has been just repeating this old Republican saw that government has to operate like a business.
Excuse me, government is not a business.
You
hire these people, civil servants, and hopefully legislators to be of service to the people of the country.
It's not a business, it is a service.
The second thing is, if she really wants
More of a business approach.
Bring in more money to the government.
Very simple answer.
Tax the rich more.
Oh, yes.
And don't cut the funding for IRS agents so that there are enough of them that they can actually spend some time looking at the rich that are not paying their taxes.
That's a really easy solution.
If you want to operate it like a business and you want more money coming in, there's your end.
Thanks, Jack.
Appreciate the call.
8-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4.
Should we do a four-minute version of the thing, just for the fun of it?
Why not?
Sure.
Let's go.
Here we go.
Time for What's Worst Speed Round.
Let's go.
Time
once again for What's Worst, the speed round edition of Busy Day, but we'll sneak it in here at the end.
This is timely, timely indeed, as Mike Lucas likes to say, spring is here.
for many of them, it's warm out there.
We're gonna be doing some hiking.
Now when you're hiking, especially in the spring, like Todd might be a little out of shape, a little bulk on you, what's worse, walking uphill or walking downhill?
855-752-4842, 855-752-4842.
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What's worse, walking uphill,
or walking downhill.
What I'm most interested in is how does this answer differ for people's answer on stairs?
Like if somebody says, we had a few people say walking downstairs is more dangerous because you might trip and fall and hurt yourself.
And I wonder
if people have
Therein lies your answer because I think for a lot of people, stairs are different than just walking down a grass hill or up a grass hill.
What's worse, walking uphill
Or walking downhill eight five five seven five two four eight four two eight five five seven five two four eight four two Or give us a call or a text rather on the civic media app or like our friend Robert Watching on Facebook says depends on if I'm just starting to exercise or finishing up That is a practical answer
and he's a hundred percent right if you're just starting out It's like I can walk up a hill, but if you got to finish by walking up the hill
Very different LA Tom watching on YouTube says walking downhill is worse walking uphill is more hard work And I am sorry walking downhill is better.
I guess walking uphill is I know
walking down hill is
Got it.
I'm sorry.
I misread that I apologize LA so he's seen out there as a guy
He's walking up those hills in beautiful Southern California.
Why not, right?
Beautiful palm trees and whatnot.
Cindy in Appleton.
What's worse, Cindy, walking uphill or walking downhill?
Well, being a runner.
I have always believed in taking advantage of gravity.
So the downhill is the good part, uphill is the bad part.
Appreciate it.
Thank you, Cindy.
What's worse uphill or downhill?
Greg in Genesee Depot listening on AUK says walking uphill is worse.
What else we got here?
Tyler in Wisconsin Rapids is a Karina fan.
He says whatever Karina says is best.
All right, very good.
Brian listening in Milwaukee in the UK says both are worse depends on how steep but uphill is definitely where I guess uphill is worse for him Dave listening in New Berlin says walking uphill is worse as well I'm gonna
if the
I
just keep falling
And this is a story for another day, but years ago, I was hiking up a volcano in El Salvador.
And, uh, it's Zalco, Vulcan is Zalco.
And when you get to the top, there's like a lot of ash and you just pick like two or three.
You're crawling, basically, and then sliding back.
I'll say uphill's worse.
Seems like that's the consensus.
There you go.
A speed round edition of What's Worst.
Come on back tomorrow.
More of What's Worst and more fun.
Your phone calls as well.
Many thanks to Trig V. Olsen, Mike Johnson, State Senator Sarah Kieske, Zomers, and you.
We appreciate all of you well-listed and played along.
Whatever you're fighting for, whatever you believe in, do not give up.
Keep banging your drum.
Maggie Dawn is next.
See you tomorrow.
