More Calls with Matt Flynn (Hour 2)

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More Calls with Matt Flynn (Hour 2)

The Todd Allbaugh Show · Mon Feb 24, 2025

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It is six minutes past the hour of one o'clock on this Monday, February 24th, 2025.

It is a great day to be a Wisconsinite here at our World Headquarters in downtown Madison.

Overcast skies.

Some parts of Wisconsin may hit the old five zero.

50 degree mark today, a little, well, I'm not sure to call it a late winter or early spring thaw, but temperatures may kind of moderate out temperatures in the forties, looking like some rain in parts of Wisconsin later on in the week.

So maybe that old groundhog, Jimmy, the groundhog was right, Zommer's, spring may be coming early.

That

seems to be the case, but you never know in Wisconsin when you get second or third winter, it happens.

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say.

You know, you got the boys basketball tournament come up here in Madison.

You always seem to get a big snowfall for that.

So probably plenty of winter left, but it feels kind of nice after a week end up in Hayward.

Beautiful week end up in Hayward.

We covered the Birkebinder up there.

Just a good time had by all coming up a little bit later in this hour.

A what's worse,

cold and flu edition.

We'll ask you those questions and talk you a little bit about the Brewers getting their opener down in Arizona this weekend.

And the first time in a long, long time, without Bob Euker, we'll discuss that.

But we'll bring on our ongoing contributor and friend right now, Matt Flynn, a two-time chair of the Democratic Party of Wisconsin, an attorney, a Navy veteran, and also a great author.

Matt, you're a guy who gets about town.

You ever been up there at Hayward at the Birkambiner?

Yeah, I have a brother-in-law, and my sister-in-law passed away.

Jack Reader, Reader's Recess Resort.

Anybody up in Hayward?

Reader's Recess Resort, Jack Reader.

My brother-in-law, good man, and I love going up there and visiting him.

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Now, wait a minute, Matt.

We've been friends for a while now.

You know a guy that owns a resort, and I've been sleeping on a cot, on a futon up there

in?

Hayward, at the radio station.

Yeah, I've been to the radio station.

I was interviewed there and those are very, very Spartan accommodations for many of your stature.

Yes.

I will let Jack read or know.

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It really is Well, great to have you along.

Thanks for giving us a little bit more time here at hour number two Matt lots of people on the phone lines yet You could join Matt talk you a little bit about the news over the weekend amongst them that Donald Trump president Trump firing the

Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and several other military officials over 5,000 civilian folks in the in the military as well firing inspectors general across the board and a judge Advocates general better known as Jag officers in the military and also You know dramatically changing the United States position with the war in Ukraine of course everybody who Knows facts that knows the sky is blue knows it was Russia

who attacked Ukraine unprovoked and now over the weekend Donald Trump seemingly changing the not seemingly changing the foreign policy of the United States here and uh i mean here's a guy Matt we're gonna get to the full line don't hang up but we'll be right with you but i want to get your quick take on a couple of things number one Trump and Musk

among these big purges, they fire the people in charge of nuclear weapons until they found out, well, wait a minute, they're in charge of the nukes, then they try to rehire them, but they can't because they don't have their personal emails.

I mean, these people, their elevator doesn't go to the top floor.

Right the emblematic thing is Musk is there in a weird outfit with a weird brandishing a chainsaw a chainsaw a chainsaw Charlie and and that's how he treats human beings That's how he cuts down his the forest for the hell of it and he goes you ten thousand people get out You tell me any good things you do your and then he sends them these things saying they're being terminated for bad performance That's false those and this is blanket

That hurts them for future job applications.

He does not care about human beings.

Remember, he's a South African guy and he became a citizen, although frankly, if I were in office, I would investigate because he had a student visa in Stanford and didn't show up,

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but?

he stayed in the United States.

That's a violation.

It should have been disclosed.

I wouldn't mind seeing him deported quite frankly.

He's

a

danger to the United States.

absolute danger to the United States.

And here he goes, here's a chainsaw.

I'm going to cut a couple of million people in half and destroy their careers.

Who puts up with that?

We don't put up with that.

We do not put up

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with that.

Here's another quick take, Matt.

Over the weekend, Musk sent out from his made up, I'm tired of people calling it, you know, the Department of Government Efficiency.

It is not a department.

It is not anything that's been condoned by Congress.

It's a made up thing.

It's a made up agency.

But Musk sends out to all department heads, including the military, that you have to get me by today, Monday, the top five things that you accomplished.

to justify your existence.

And if you don't, I'll take that as your resignation.

Now, Hagseth, Secretary of Defense, set up a new rapid response team at Department of Defense, and they have a new Twitter handle specifically for rapid response to Department of Defense.

Wisconsin's own Congressman Derek Van Orton.

was carrying on about this, how he was all for it, how, and a couple of people pushed back.

And he said, well, you know, he said a lot of terrible things.

Anyway, Derek Van Horten is clearly not tuned into his own administration.

He's also a Maga Republican, because get this, Hegseth owned Department of Defense, put out the following statement.

I want to read this for you, Matt Flynn, to get your take.

Here it is, quote, Department of Defense, DOD, personnel.

may have received an email from OPN, Office of Personnel Management, requesting information.

The Department of Defense is responsible for reviewing the performance of its personnel and will conduct any review in accordance with its own procedures.

When and if required, the department will coordinate responses to the email you have received from OPM.

For now, please pause any response.

to the OPM email titled, quote, what you did last week, unquote, what did you do last week?

Signed Darren Selnick performing the duties of the Undersecretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness.

Matt Flynn, this administration can't even get on the same page amongst themselves.

Right.

These people, these people, it's sort of like the Three Stooges, except I like the Three Stooges and they're funny.

This is not funny.

This really is not funny.

And you have a guy like Van Orden, by the way, Becca Cook did a hell of a job against him, and I'm hoping she takes him on again.

This guy's a disgrace, a disgrace to the Congress.

But getting back to this other thing, right, they fire nuclear people, try to rehire them, can't find them.

They say, give me five things that you did, or you resigned, and then defense, and the FBI as well did the same thing, so don't respond.

This is the

This is the overgroup and furors fighting among themselves.

The furor stands above it to Trump and furor and the overgroup and furors start fighting against themselves.

This is what's going on.

And I'll tell you, treating human beings by brandishing a chainsaw and pumping it up and down and bragging that you've cut people's livelihood.

You think that's funny?

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You?

think that's funny, Jack?

Well, let me tell you something.

This guy does not have American values.

He does not have American

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values.

855-752-4842.

Matt has been kind enough to stay around to finish up these calls.

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Let's go to the phone lines.

Dale, listening on WISS in Oshkosh.

Dale, thanks for holding on.

Let's see you.

Hey, Matt, great hearing you again.

As a person who is totally dependent on social security for my retirement,

and seeing how musk is trashing everything.

What if, what say you if things blow up on a proportion and Trump wants to compel the military for martial law?

Great.

There's an excellent question.

The military cannot and constitutionally should not be used for any domestic purpose.

If he suspends the, he has to do what's called suspending the writ of habeas corpus.

and then declaring some kind of rebellion or an emergency.

If he does that, our federal judges, even the six tarantulas, will have no choice but to enjoin it.

Now, even if they enjoin it, they don't have an army.

You know what it gets

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down to?

Matt, tell folks, put it down there where the chickens can get at it.

For those of us who aren't illegal people, what does enjoin mean?

Well enjoying it the federal judges may say no, you can't do that.

No, you can't do

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that Okay,?

but they have no army.

They have no army And so if Trump says the army is gonna do it and the federal judges say no, you know what it comes down to which is really said Who does the army obey?

Yeah, and what's sad is the army is very diverse and it may obey different tests.

This is third world stuff

This has gone on in Latin America.

This has gone on in Africa.

And Trump is plunging us into this.

And on social security, he could very well by executive order say Musk thinks that we should privatize it or reduce it by 80% or 20%.

And it'll go to the sixth tarantulas.

It's very dangerous what he's doing, and he's avoiding the Constitution.

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855-752-4842.

Let's go down to one of the Abat and I's favorite cities in Wisconsin, Monroe, Wisconsin, home of the cheese bakers, Angie and Monroe.

Angie, what's up?

I just want to say I've never been so embarrassed to be an American.

It's pretty sad what I'm seeing.

I am totally with Ukraine and I'm glad that we're talking about this.

That way I can

college empathy thing and I'm glad we're talking about it that way we all get together with ideas.

We got to do something to save America.

I don't even know what to say.

It makes me sick to my stomach and I have to be scared every day and these people think we should be on brushes side.

What?

I don't even know.

I'm arguing with somebody on Facebook about this and she wants us to be on brushes side and I'm like

I will.

No, that is not what we do.

It's like, you go to Russia then.

Why do we have to change America?

Yeah.

Great.

Angie, let me just make a, yeah, if I can just respond quickly to that.

Angie, I would look at it this way.

I'm never ashamed to be an American.

I am proud to be an American.

We have an un-American president that snuck in and is destroying the constitution.

The Russians have been responsible for torture.

invasion, genocide, and fraud for a long time.

In the Second World War, Stalin killed tens of millions of people, millions of Ukrainians killed.

Trump is siding with a torturer and a genocidal sadist.

We do not consent to go along with that.

Get on the phone right away, call the Ukrainian embassy, call the NATO embassies, say, we stand with you, do not trust Trump.

We do not support Trump.

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I echo Matt Flynn's comments.

I am proud every day to be American.

Predominantly, there are men and women in uniform and others across America.

I'm proud of Matt Flynn, too.

Come on back.

More questions with Matt Flynn next with Todd Albaul's show on the Civic Media Ready Network.

An old cowboy went riding out one dark and windy day.

Upon a ridge he rested as he went along his way.

When all at once a mighty herd of red-eyed cows he saw, plowing through the ragged skies, and up a cloudy draw.

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with the U.S.

Constitution in one hand and his mighty writing pen in the other.

Helping save America each and every day, Matt Flynn Direct joins us, a two-time chair of the Democratic Party of Wisconsin, an attorney and Navy veteran, and yes,

An author, always glad to have you here, Matt Mundy.

It's with Matt, 21 past the hour of one o'clock.

Let's go right to the phone lines.

One more call to get to here.

It is Cindy in Appleton being very patient.

Cindy, thanks for holding on.

What's your question and a comment for Matt Flynn?

Well, I would just like to say that for everybody that calls to the radio station, they should be

As soon as they hang up, they should be calling their federal senator and their federal congressman and telling them to knock this off, do not cut social security.

As a matter of fact, I talked to Tony Weed's office last week and that office assured me they were not going to touch social security, although I said, I don't believe you people because you're a backer of Trump.

Every time someone calls, they should also make that call to the legislators and tell them the same thing they're telling you.

Excellent point of view.

And in addition to calling ambassadors saying we stand with Ukraine, what you're saying is very, very important.

The Republican Party ever since George W. Bush has floated the idea of privatizing Social Security and also voucherizing Medicare.

So they would give you a voucher for Medicare, and you'd have to buy your own insurance, and they'd privatize Social Security, make it into a 401k.

If that happened, people would get cheated on their investments, cheated in the stock market.

You'd have to hire a lawyer to get the insurance company to cover your injuries.

We can't let them do that.

Musk believes in that.

Musk will recommend that to Trump.

Trump will then possibly try it by executive order.

That is unconstitutional.

But the sixth tarantulas on the Supreme Court, if they side with him, because they already have on a lot of things, that could be a very dangerous blow to our economy and to our country and our culture.

So I stand exactly with Cindy.

Thank you for calling.

Go to hear from you again.

Call all of them.

Do not touch Social Security.

Do not touch Medicare.

Don't voucherize them and do not privatize them.

Those are the words.

Don't privatize Social Security.

Don't voucherize Medicare.

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I got to get to a speed round here, Matt.

I want to get your take on this.

This is a longtime Democratic strategist, James Carvel, one of the architects of the Clinton campaign.

Still goes on podcasts.

He was on a podcast over the weekend, Matt.

This is a very hot take.

But I want the audience to listen to this from James Carville.

He thinks that national Democrats should do right now and a prediction and get Matt's take on the other side.

Here's James Carville.

Well, okay, I'm a tease of peace.

I'm pretty sure be coming out.

I'm doing it at New York Times.

Probably Monday or Tuesday, but sometimes they'll kill it.

But what I've said very publicly, Democrats need to play possum.

This whole thing is collapsing.

It doesn't need Elizabeth Warren,

in somebody screaming to pacify some progressive advocacy groups in Washington, which, by the way, I wish these people were just useless.

They're actually worse than useless that they're detrimental.

And they never, ever learned to shut up.

And so, Dan, this is what I believe.

I believe that this administration, in less than 30 days, in the midst of a massive collapse, in particularly a collapse

in public opinion.

Delavope at Harvard, who's very good.

I used to think once I saw a Harvard youth poll, I discounted it, I've come to say it's a damn good poll.

Pretty good guy.

He's gone from 53 approval to under 30 to 39.

That's a collapse.

And all we need to do, the analogy I use, is picket is 500 yards from the stone wall.

Hold your fire.

It's going to be easy pickings here in six weeks.

Just

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lay back.

It goes on from there, Matt Flynn, but that's James Carville, longtime Democratic strategist.

He's saying that, and we see this in Wisconsin over the weekend, some of the Republican congressman, Scott Fitzgerald, Glenn Grossman, others.

Lots of citizens of Wisconsin coming out and their voice heard, Carvel's predicting that this whole thing is going to collapse, especially when it comes to whether Congress does a continuing resolution or trying to pass a budget that ultimately they're going to have to come to Kim Jeffery as the Democratic leader.

And when they do that, that game over.

That's what Carvel's saying.

Here's my listen, I think a lot of Carvel, I think he is one of the best strategists we've had in this generation.

But I disagree with him in this respect.

The waving the arms, the shouting and all that kind of stuff, I agree, is not particularly effective.

But remember something, Trump just got elected.

He's in for basically four years.

And in those four years, he's put an administration of animals in there.

If you take a look at their pro-Russian, their anti-vaccine, they don't care to give a damn about the American people.

If we simply play possum, they're in there and they have compliant federal judges.

You've got, there is an old adage that says the Supreme Court follows the election returns.

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And

that is less true now, but it is true that we have to get public sentiment out there in space.

Now the public sentiment, I mean, I like Elizabeth Warren, but she's not particularly effective.

She shouts and yells and everybody just takes it.

They go, well, that's Elizabeth Warren.

But everybody who's just called into this show, everybody.

who either calls their representative and says, don't touch social security or we stand with Ukraine.

We're not going to let this clown do anything about that or call the Ukrainian embassy and say, we stand with you.

Do not trust Trump.

That is essential.

It's essential.

We can't play possum.

I mean, he's from Louisiana.

He plays possum.

Look, we can't play possum.

The point of the matter is how we don't play possum is important.

And you don't go out there, we have a scarecrow and waving your arms.

Everybody's got to get behind this.

Stand up to everybody.

We're with Ukraine.

Trump is a traitor to the United States.

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Matt Flynn, one minute.

It's all yours.

Tell us about your latest works in writing.

Well,

let me tell you, I've written five, I published five books.

But the one you might enjoy is, is a series, three series, the Bernie Weber series of this guy from Wisconsin, who's a math genius.

And he cracks the ISIS code, the Chinese code, and he's cracks another one and basically saves the country.

You really like it.

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And it

also has a lot of the ideas that I've thrown out on the radio.

So here it is Matthew Flynn go on Amazon or Barnes and Noble or anywhere and go, it's China code, hunting Bernie Weber and Milwaukee Jihad.

And you will learn a lot about Wisconsin.

There's not a ton of math in there.

He's just a good kid, Wisconsin kid getting the job done.

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Matthew J. Flynn, great author, great friend.

Matt, always a pleasure.

Thanks for the generosity of your time, my friend.

We'll talk to you soon.

Talk to you soon.

Thank you.

Thank you so much, Matt Flynn.

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Welcome back to the title ball show on the Civic Media Radio Network.

34 minutes now, past the hour of one o'clock on Monday, February 24th, 2025, Zomers on the board.

Many thanks to our friend and ongoing contributor, Mr. Matthew J. Flynn, Matt Flynn.

Always gets a lot of people involved.

Always, while I love about Matt as being an attorney, being a veteran, he knows facts and...

Anybody who could bring his facts and help us understand things in an understandable relation when it comes to legal things, when it comes to the military, I find that a benefit.

And certainly he has a take and a point in, and we agree a lot.

We don't always agree on everything between Matt and I, but that's what makes us great friends is that we can agree to disagree sometime and always laugh about it,

right?

Yes, laughing is definitely something to appreciate about Matt Flynn because he's a very funny guy.

And also, yes, I like how he will share

that things are his opinion.

Right.

As opposed to just stating everything as a fact.

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Yeah.

Really great guy.

Check out his books again.

Matthew J Flynn at Barnes and Nobles or Amazon.

I have all of them.

They're fantastic reads.

Some are lighter-hearted reads.

Some are more serious, but you're always going to get a great time.

Matt Flynn, wherever you buy your books.

I knew the plane that James Carvel cut would get some responses that we have.

And I'm wondering if we're not gonna replay it again, but basically James Carville over the weekend in a podcast for a long time Democratic strategist was credited with helping Bill Clinton get elected and reelected in the 90s.

James Carville's, it's a hot take.

I'm not gonna say it's not, it's a hot take.

And what James Carville is saying in that clip is that he believes that, and he's using a term, right?

He's saying that Democrats should play possum for a little while.

I don't think that he's talking about every single person in America.

I think what he's talking about in the way I took it was democratic leadership, the people in Washington, rather than going out and, you know, in Carvel's words, doing more damage by really saying some very left extreme things in some cases, just kind of let Trump sit there because he thinks in a month to six weeks,

Because remember, we haven't talked about this hardly at all, and we'll have Matt back on, because he's really great at talking about this as well, that, remember, Congress pushed kick the can down the road.

Coming up here very soon, Congress has to either pass a continuing resolution to keep the federal government running, or pass a budget, or the federal government will shut down.

And so remember Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House of Representatives, has what a two, two, three seat majority right now in the House of Representatives.

So I think what Carvel is saying there is, look, Trump's policies as they get rolled out on the hour now almost, cutting defense, cutting, we just had another story today we haven't gotten to it, that

several staff, more staff members in the United States Department of Agriculture in Wisconsin have been let go.

As somebody who grew up in rural Wisconsin and gets there a lot, we would just spend time up in Hayward, travel around the state.

When people's, there's a program called the CRP program, CRP, Conservation Reserve Program.

And what it does is it pays,

People in rural areas that have highly erodible land on big hillsides pays them not to farm that per acre And then you have to I used to have I when I had my farm I was in this program for a while And it pays you to plant natural native grasses and alfalfa To help the land recover and a lot of farmers a lot of rural people.

There's also forestry programs and others

They pay their taxes based on these federal programs for CRP, for forestry, and others.

When those programs start going away and people can no longer get that money.

Things like that.

Then you're going to see people in rural America start saying, wait a minute, I didn't vote for this.

And I think what James Carville is saying there is, don't alienate those folks.

Don't start bashing them.

Wait for this to just play out.

And when the Trump administration starts collapsing, hand over foot, that's when Republicans in Congress, Johnson, the Speaker, is going to be forced to go to Hakeem Jeffries, the Democratic leader in the House, and say, we have to have your help to pass a budget or a continuing resolution.

And Carvel's saying, that's.

when you know you've got the power.

So I wanted to clarify that because I don't think Carvel's saying, you know, don't, he would, I think, encourage as would I, people to go out peacefully, demonstrate, show up at these town halls to congressional people, let your voices be heard peacefully, but show up.

855-752-4842, let's go quickly to the phone lines.

Jack listening in recede pardon me.

I'm sorry a little burp there jack.

I apologize jack and recede go ahead

You know what

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you know what it is jack.

I found I've got it right here over the weekend I found a new protein bars called go macro Go macro bar there and they're made in my home in my home Richland County in Viola.

They're fantastic So I was having a pro macro bar and I had a little burp anyway.

Go ahead

All right

Yeah, I disagree with Carville, you know, but I think you, I like your idea better, your interpretation of what he's saying is better than what he said, I think.

Carville always likes one big idea, you know, it's the economy's stupid, right?

So now he's saying, you know, just that it'll all fall apart.

And I think he's right, I think we're seeing it fall apart.

However, Trump still maintains the levers of power.

You know, he's appointed people to positions of power.

Gash Patel now apparently has his Dan Borgino, Borgiano.

Borgino, yeah.

Borgino, yeah.

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We haven't even talked about that yet,

but

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Borgino is an extremist, had a show, a podcast, and now he's going to be the deputy FBI director.

Yeah, so all that is bad.

In the meantime, the things he's destroying, USAID going on, getting ready to go after Medicaid, the national parks.

Uh, you know, they're not, you don't just build those back up easily.

Cause they take some vote of a majority vote of both ties to Congress to return to those things.

Where's that all depends on what the courts does and like the tarantulas that they, their guests talked about who can count on them.

But you know, the other thing that really bothers me, I'm remembering back to when the Washington, the protesters were in Washington and Trump wanted his generals to get the regular troops.

on the streets of the state of the city of washington probably all over the country and they said well can't you just shoot them in the legs or something you know well he's got rid of the real generals uh he's put his own generals in there like all these other places stooge's and uh i don't have any confidence they're gonna stand up for them they just might shoot them in the legs meaning people are protesting and the one last thing is

If you study the people like Tim Snyder who know what happens in totalitarianism, the only places that stop the rolling totalitarian coup like this with an oligarch like Musk that happened in Russia and happened in South America is when the people stood up with mass demonstrations.

So I really think Carvel's wrong, he's dangling about things.

People need to be out protesting and doing whatever they can to stop this now and not sit back and wait.

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Appreciate the call, Jack.

And I basically agree with you.

And again, I don't want to read too much into it, but I think what Carvel was, his comments were directed to the leadership in Washington.

not so much the grassroots people on the ground.

855-752-4842.

Let's go to Whistler in Richland Center, listening on WRCE.

Whistler, I don't want to go into too much detail, but I saw mom over the weekend and she said that she got to meet Mrs. Whistler over the weekend and was an absolutely delightful person.

Well, I would certainly hope so.

You're married to her, so yeah.

Yeah, that's a great point whizzlers

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Yeah, it's it's you're

right Go ahead

the park with Dale.

I told you that's out of the park with Dale.

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Hey,

I love your show, Todd.

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Well, we appreciate your support, Whizler and everybody else.

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Let's go quickly to Dick in Madison and WMDX.

Dick, thanks for calling, we'll see.

Yeah, I think he is onto something, but at the grassroots level, I agree totally with you.

Did you hear any of those excerpts from

the town halls around the country and then the ones particularly in Wisconsin.

People were in their mug and that's a good thing.

And the other reason I bring this up is I remember reading something right after he took office the first week.

This is all fine and good, all this stuff he's trying to push to some degree, except that these people got to go face the constituents in two years.

And in some of these red areas of the country, some of the Biden Harris stuff,

is extremely popular, that created jobs.

And if you think for a second, you know, that people, you know, things being built and things getting done again, infrastructure that he talked about endlessly in his first term and never did a damn thing, nothing.

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Yep.

Appreciate the call.

Thank you so much, Dick.

Great calls, everybody.

It's quarter till the hour of 2 o'clock.

Need to move on here.

I want to do a quick version of this.

Mr. Zommer is here.

We go.

Time for What's Worse once again.

Let's go.

Time once again

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for a speed round version of What's Worse.

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All right, Summers, it is the cold and flu season.

Gonna get right to it.

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And I think people, at first you think, well, neither one is great, but then you think about it, there are certain things that may be worse than the other one.

What's worse, the cold, a cold, or the flu?

855-752-4842, LA Tom calling in from Los Angeles, LA what's worse, a cold or the flu?

Well cold hang on longer it seems like and the flu seems like it's over in 24 hours So I'm gonna have to say what's worse is still probably the flu because probably You know you have the vomiting you got everything else going on where the cold, you know, it's just annoying basically I want to say one of it

Todd Allbaugh

I talked to the guy over the weekend.

He had that he had this norovirus going around which is

blue lights.

Yeah, I

Todd Allbaugh

mean he lost 15 pounds.

Your virus is dangerous.

Todd Allbaugh

That's terrible.

What do you want to say, LA quick, please?

I just wanted to say that, you know, all the people out there, you know, with every great drama that there is, there's always a Superman.

There's always a Lex Luthor.

And the thing is, one thing I think maybe the Democrats are doing is they're trying to not make themselves into a Lex Luthor.

you know, like a Nancy Pelosi type or something like that.

So, you know, I do agree with Carville that we just need to keep on making sure that we're putting out our objectives and having basically like a shadow government and telling what it is that we're for.

And just let, you know, Trump crash and burn as he continues to crash, burn and destroy the government.

Thanks.

Todd Allbaugh

Appreciate it.

Thank you so much, LA Tom.

Let's go quickly to Jordan listening in Madison on MDX.

Jordan, what's worse, a cold or the flu?

You know, as somebody that has lung problems, I'm gonna say the flu because that can be deadly.

Todd Allbaugh

That's a great point.

Yeah,

Todd Allbaugh

Ashley, you're more affected as someone has a lung issue with the flu is worse for you.

Absolutely.

Todd Allbaugh

All right.

Thank you.

I appreciate it, Jordan.

Thanks so much for your listenership.

Come back with more of What's Worse and hear from the walkie-brewers.

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Talking about the what's worse of the day, the question to you, what's worse, a cold or the flu?

855-752-4842, 855-752-4842, Sherry, listing in Horicon, Sherry, what's worse, a cold or the flu?

Oh my god, Todd.

I just got over that stupid flu.

I ended up weighing 89 pounds.

Oh my gosh.

I lost 10 pounds.

Todd Allbaugh

Oh my, you didn't have any to lose.

I

could not even drink a third of a cup of water without throwing it up for three days.

Oh my

word.

Careful, careful.

Terrible, 10 hundred, didn't 3.5 fever.

Oh my god.

Definitely the fruit is worse than a cold.

Todd Allbaugh

Well, I am so happy you're on the mend.

I'm glad you're on the mend.

We're thinking of you, Sherry.

Thanks for listening to us and you hang in there, okay?

You take care of yourself.

Yeah, that's why I didn't respond last week because I was just too thinking and bare-word.

Todd Allbaugh

Oh, well, I'm so sorry.

Well, thank you.

I appreciate that.

And you take care of yourself now, all right?

All right.

Thanks, Jerry.

Appreciate

it.

Todd Allbaugh

Well, we love you too.

You take care now.

Thank you Now there that I mean it is you said earlier as bombers I mean you worked in pharmacies for a while I mean this this stuff is nothing to fool around with and and people do die from this and yeah Very very ill.

That's why for me the flu is the clear worse option because you can die from it Norovirus is even worse because you get it coming out of both ends

Todd Allbaugh

Yeah, that's a little fun.

It's

so easy to get dehydrated.

Todd Allbaugh

Yeah, I

I think probably in general, the flu is worse for me too, although because of my ear issues, a long cold is not fun for me either.

Really, really quick here.

Patrick in Wisconsin Rapids, listening on the Great Station, WFHR says, which one is it?

Starve a cold, feed a flu, or starve the flu, feed a cold?

The starving one is worse.

He doesn't want to starve.

All right, very good.

I think it's starve a...

Starved of which one is I can't remember.

I do not know

Todd Allbaugh

Greg listening in Genesee depot says the flu is worse Also, Brian in Milwaukee says what's worse the flu?

Yes symptoms are similar but dealing with a fever and chills are horrible Tom in Jackson on a ok.

Let's see here that reset what it's on.

Yes easy the flu it can kill you the flu is worse There all right.

Thanks everybody for playing.

I will say that overall the flu is probably worse as well

I want to go Bob Uker, of course, passing away here last month.

And it's a lot different this year for Brewer's baseball.

We here at Civic Media are proud once again to be Brewer's affiliates all across the state of Wisconsin.

This is Jeff Levering opening up the Brewer's season in Arizona over the weekend.

Under a blanket of sunshine in Phoenix, Arizona.

Cactus League Baseball in the Milwaukee Brewers 2025 season begins.

Hi everybody, I'm Jeff Levering to my left celebrating his 40th season producing Brewers Baseball as Kent Sommerfeld to my right entering his 10th year on the Brewers broadcast team is Lane Grindel and just to the right of Lane a bouquet of flowers and a chair with Bob Euker's name on the back.

For the first time since the inaugural season in 1970, there will be a season without hearing Yook's voice.

The chair, just a symbol, but the weight of his loss is felt by everybody, not just in this booth or in the organization, but around the world.

He was our mentor, but more importantly, he was our friend, and we miss him dearly.

But he's always with each and every one of us in our hearts, every single day.

But we'll do what you could want us to do and that's talk Brewers baseball.

We'll certainly laugh.

We may cry But we'll always remember our friend Bob Uker because he'll always be with us So with that we begin the 2025 championship season in Milwaukee Brewers baseball

Todd Allbaugh

Jeff levering now the voice of the Milwaukee Brewers opening up the season for the first time since 1971 without

Bob Uker can't imagine what that was like for him of course levering along with Lane Grindel Has been taking over more and more of the play-by-play duties all the Brewers ready network to go back and forth between the TV side and the radio side But they always knew right down to that last game of elimination in the postseason last year They always knew that if you could be there he would be

And we found out after his passing that Bob Euker had been badly lung cancer for over a year.

And it was extraordinarily difficult for him, for Euker, to get there for that last game.

But he was not going to be denied and sat in that chair to the right of Lane Grindel to call his last game in which we played the Cup 40 before.

After it, Bob Euker said that one had some sting to it.

and probably knowing that would be his last game ever.

It's gonna be different Zomers, but we're fortunate to have a guy like Lane Grindel to literally and figuratively pick up the microphone.

But I can't imagine how difficult that was for him to open the season this year.

Absolutely.

And it's still wild to me that Bob Euker called 3.5% of all radio broadcast MLB games.

And so even if you're not from Milwaukee,

His legacy will not soon be forgotten.

Todd Allbaugh

No, it won't.

And a reminder, we're going to have the guys back on the show.

Kelly Call and Sean Hannah Schoen.

The the great movie just a bit outside the story of the 1982 Milwaukee Brewers run is now on DVD.

Yes, you can buy it and watch it at home for sale at Amazon.

So check out that great movie just a bit outside.

Many thanks to Matt Flynn for being on the show today.

Aaron Zomer is always great to have him behind the board and for all of you for listening.

Todd Allball saying whatever you believe in, whatever you're fighting for, do not give up.

Keep banging your drum.

We'll see you tomorrow.

Maggie Dawn is next.