Mondays With Matt: Trump Politicizes The US Military (Hour 1)

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Mondays With Matt: Trump Politicizes The US Military (Hour 1)

The Todd Allbaugh Show · Mon Feb 24, 2025

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Good afternoon, everybody.

I'm Todd Albaugh, along with Mr. Aaron Zommers, who is back on the board from a little R&R on Friday.

Glad to have you along here on a Monday, February 24th, 2025.

It is a great day to be a Wisconsinite.

Six minutes past the hour of 12 noon here in downtown Madison.

A little overcast sky, a little sun here and there, but our meteorologists are saying a little taste of spring.

here on this February 24th, temperatures could get into the into the fifties in some part to Wisconsin, the low fifties at least.

So, so looking forward to that.

Mr. Sommers, welcome back.

Always glad to have you back.

And yeah, well, R&R, the great Sam Davidson filled in on Friday.

How was your weekend?

Good.

I went to a convention in Chicago.

I went to

MagicCon for Magic the Gathering.

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big nerd.

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You're into a lot of diverse stuff.

That's fantastic.

It was a good time.

MagicCon.

Play a bunch of games.

I got to see some cool informational panels and shows and stuff like

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that.

Well, very good.

Glad to have a day off.

Welcome back to the show.

Welcome back, everyone.

We had a great time.

Many thanks again to all of our friends up there and beautiful Hayward, Wisconsin, the great staff that we have up there at WBZH, our news talk sports station in Hayward, as well as our brand new music station, Muskie 101.

So a great team up there, Big G, Gray, doing a great job.

We appreciate all their help up there.

And many thanks to all the people at the American Birk Combiner for letting us bring some of those sights and sounds to you.

It was such just a really, really fun time.

And look forward if we're able to go back next year.

Want to turn our attention to current events and no better.

By the way, coming up in hour two, what's worse today, we have a cold and flu season.

What's worse?

I am

Knock on wood staying healthy, but I know a lot of people are down and out So we'll talk a little bit about the cold and flu season the Milwaukee Brewers kick off the season for the first time Since 1971 without Bob Uker it sounded strange But we'll play the opening by Jeff levering a little bit later on and the Badgers Bad loss for the Milwaukee Milwaukee for the Wisconsin Badger men's basketball team tough loss at home against the dreaded the evil the terrible

Oregon ducks Wisconsin the bakery was open down on Monroe Street Or actually when I guess on Dayton Street, but the Badgers had 17 turnovers 17 you're not gonna win a lot of games.

Yeah, that's not ideal No, it's 17 turtle so all that more but want to begin with what's happened over the course of the weekend

These days, the news comes by the hour, sometimes by the minute, no better person to help us sort through all this.

Been looking forward to talking with him for a couple of weeks now.

And of course, many of our fine listeners who are also fans of Matt Flynn have been asking for him.

And here he is in the flesh, a two-time chair of the Democratic Party of Wisconsin, an attorney, and also a veteran of the United States Navy, the one, the only, our friend, Matt Flynn.

How are you, my friend?

Terrific, terrific time.

I'll tell you what, I like being back on the Tide

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Oboe show.

Matt's indirect

on the Tide Oboe show.

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That's right.

That's right.

It's kind of like a compilation.

Well, you always open your shows, Matt, with, you know, you're not woke unless until you know history and you take us to the front lines of history being made every minute of every day.

Wow.

Lots of history being made every minute of every day these days, Matt.

And I want to.

You know, again, you're kind of a Renaissance guy.

You're a man of many talents.

You've, you know, to clean it up for radio, as you say, you've seen a lot of stuff.

And so I appreciate that about you.

For the first couple of topics here, of course, you're an attorney, activist of Democratic Party, a leader, but I really appreciate the fact that you're a veteran of the United States Navy.

And I think that

what happened over the last three to four days here in terms of President Trump firing the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, also a secretary of the Navy.

Several others are coming.

Over 5,000 civilians in Department of Defense have been told they're letting go.

Just let's start things off, Matt.

As a veteran, what does this mean to you?

Well, let me tell you something as a veteran and just as an American citizen You're seeing the slow notification of our culture

and

the there are 50 Republican senators 50 eunuchs council of eunuchs who are sitting by and they're accommodating it now let me just talk about the military briefly just like you said he fired the the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Air Force

Veteran with a general a full general four star years of service four star who also Happens to be an african-american guy in a combat pilot and terrific and what he fired was actually the chief of naval operations the CNO Who's a woman?

He's a French Eddie who is a four-star admiral and he fired the the admiral in charge of the Coast Guard who's a woman he fired one black guy and two women this guy

When he talks about getting rid of DEI, well, that's just the front.

He's talking about getting rid of black people and women.

That's all he's talking about.

And so what he, by doing that, when I was in the Navy, the chief of naval operations was Elmo Zumwalt.

He was a revered admiral and he would send us Z-gram.

So we get these, there was no internet back then, but we get these sort of faxes about this and about that.

He was a leader.

What Trump is trying to do,

is politicize the military.

And he made a very bad mistake.

He said that he admired Hitler's generals.

He said that.

He said that in the past.

What he doesn't know is that Hitler's generals tried to kill Hitler.

They planted a briefcase with a bomb in it.

And unfortunately, not close enough to his desk and it blew off his fingers, but it didn't blow the bastard up.

So in this case, I hope we do have Hitler's generals.

But what he's doing is,

is he is going to end up having political officers on ships and in regiments.

The Russians do that.

They put a political officer on every submarine, every ship, and they spy, and they rat on the captain, and they rat on the XO and all this.

We are seeing the Russianization of our military.

And quite frankly, Donald Trump only has three guiding principles in his life.

And they are sadism, treason, and fraud.

That's it.

And he's inflicting that on the country, and we've got to stand up.

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I think Matt, you know, I have family who serves on the civilian side in the military.

I had the honor and privilege.

I never served myself like you, but I had the honor and privilege of doing military affairs for about five years for a member of Congress here in Wisconsin.

and anybody who's either served or had the privilege of working with our military men and women, the people that put on the uniform every day so that we can enjoy the freedoms that we have up until this point all enjoyed, you understand keenly that these folks, I want you to talk a little bit about this, these folks, to accomplish, they are mission driven.

They are given a mission, whatever that is, and it varies from branch to branch, from unit to unit, but they have a mission.

And they come together regardless of race, sexual orientation, gender, political background, and they accomplish that.

Former General Colin Powell, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff as well, wrote a great autobiography.

I really recommend it if you ever get the chance for the listeners.

But he talked as a kid whose parents came, if I believe from Jamaica, and he grew up in Brooklyn.

And he never, never thought he would have opportunities in the private sector that the military afforded him because I don't want to say it's colorblind.

That's not true.

Nothing really is, but it gave him the best shot of being judged on his accomplishments.

No, you're absolutely right.

And you put your finger on something very, very important.

The military time and again has been told to accommodate groups that society has not yet accommodated.

For instance,

Harry Truman integrated the the military and so he demanded that black people be treated the same as everybody else and the military said fine and they did it even though much of the country in the late 40s wasn't willing to do it the second thing is he said bring women in the Democratic Party did and have them in combat positions the military said fine and it was one of the smartest things we did because we need staffing and

on submarines, on aircraft carriers, a lot of its computers.

Then they say, well, bring in transgender people.

And it's worked.

There aren't many of them, but they're accommodated and they serve honorably.

The military has always, without question, accommodated what they've been told and has always been positive.

This is the first time that you have a guy who's firing black generals, female generals and admirals,

anybody that he doesn't like and putting in political officers

and

I do not want political officers on a ship.

On my ship, if we'd had a rat walking around as a political officer to snitch on the captain and is he insufficiently loyal to Trump and that kind of thing, you turn into Russia.

And

this is a message to everybody listening and some of you may have voted for Trump.

This is not the Republican Party.

We need a center right party and a center left party.

but two American parties.

The Republican Party is not anymore an American party.

Trump is a glioblastoma in our brain, in our culture.

He's got to be taken out, lawfully, of course, got to be taken out, and we cannot let this cancer continue.

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We have time for the George W. Bush cut summarizer before the break to you.

This is Matt, to your point.

Here was former President George W. Bush in the 2000s talking about Ukraine.

As we welcome new NATO allies, we also affirm that the door to NATO membership remains open to other nations that seek it in the Balkans and beyond.

Here in Bucharest, we must make clear that NATO welcomes the aspirations of Georgia and Ukraine for their membership in NATO and offers them a clear path forward to meet that goal.

So my country's position is clear.

NATO should welcome Georgia and Ukraine.

into the membership action plan.

And NATO membership must remain open to all of Europe's democracies that seek it.

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Former President George W. Bush of the 2000s, Matt, I probably played that a little premature.

I don't want to transfer completely into Ukraine yet, although we're going to get to that.

But to your point, Matt, Donald Trump is not the party of even George W. Bush.

Regardless of what folks may have feelings on George W. Bush, that cut right there shows how far the Republican Party, the old party, has fallen.

in just, you know, 15 years.

Right.

The center right party was the Republican center.

Left was Democrat.

They're both patriots and they both resisted the Russians.

The Russians have been our adversary for a long time and they're dangerous, very, very dangerous.

Trump is being, in my view, sexually blackmailed by Putin because of the steel video.

And he will do anything for Putin.

He servile to Putin and he cannot be permitted

to say, well, now we're with Putin and we're against Ukraine.

That does not have the ascent of the Democratic Party, the Republican Party, or anybody else.

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Come on back, Matt Flynn, after this, on the Civic Media Radio Network, you're listening to the title ball show for Monday on the Civic Media Radio

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Welcome back to the Tahleball Show on the Civic Media Radio Network, along with Matt Flynn, who is always directed as 21 past the hour of 12 noon on this Monday, February 24th.

Glad to have you along on the Civic Media Radio Network.

Always fun to catch up with our friend and ongoing contributor Matt Flynn, a two-time chair of the Democratic Party of Wisconsin.

An attorney, also a great veteran of the United States Navy, and also a great author.

We will talk more about some of Matt's latest works a little bit later on in this hour.

Matt Flynn's so kind as to give us an hour of his time.

We appreciate it, Matt.

I want to play a cut here.

I know you've heard this.

Many of our listeners may have heard it.

I think it's worth replaying.

Correct me if I'm wrong Matt on the other side, but I think that this is a former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Milley, who this was after on his way out before Trump, this is while Joe Biden was still president, and he was on his way out of the chairmanship before the current one out.

Now the former Joint Chief of Staff was fired over the weekend by Trump, but here is General Milley giving all of us as Americans, and I believe

a directive to the men and women in uniform across this country, a directive.

To a country, we don't take an oath to a tribe, we don't take an oath to a religion, we don't take an oath to a king, or a queen, or to a tyrant, or a dictator, and we don't take an oath to a wannabe dictator.

We don't take an oath to an individual.

We take an oath to the Constitution, and we take an oath

to the idea that it's America and we're willing to die to protect it.

Every soldier, sailor, airman, marine, guardian, and coast guard.

Each of us commits our very life to protect and defend that document, regardless of personal

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price.

I think that was way out.

He was saying don't don't go along with this new guy if he gets back in because that's not what we're here for

It was a terrific statement and if you couldn't put it any better and as a result Trump has said he's taken away Millie's security detail took it away and he is saying he may prosecute Millie Trump we're seeing a not so notification of our culture

Let me let me tell you what was going on here If you can imagine say in 1943 in the middle of the Second World War suddenly Franklin Roosevelt saying Churchill is a dictator Hitler is somebody we can work with he's a genius for getting all this land We are now going to side with Hitler and fight the British and fight the French Suppose he said that a president cannot

override the Constitution.

The president cannot speak for everybody and just switch sides.

You can't do that.

What he's doing now is trying to do that.

Say, well, now Ukraine is bad, Russia is good, and let me tell you something even worse.

This new chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, if he's in front of the Senate and I was in the Senate, I'd say, sir, if you got an order from Trump to side with the Russians,

and oppose Ukraine militarily, send American troops over there and shoot Ukrainians, would you obey that order?

And if that son of a whatever does anything except hell no, out he goes.

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This

is very, very serious.

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This guy, you're talking about Cain, general.

By the way, he's a three star.

He's a three star and he's gonna replace a four star, which I don't think he's ever, which has ever happened.

He's retired, they're bringing him back.

He's quoted as telling Donald Trump, quote,

I would kill for you, unquote.

I mean, right.

The one thing,

well, let me tell you something.

That's Donald Trump that said that.

You know, we want to assess this guy, but he's a three star.

He is not qualified to be the chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff for a lot of complicated reasons.

But the law says that the president can override all of those regulations.

if it's somehow needed as an emergency.

And Trump is doing that.

The fact is that the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff now, this 41 year veteran of the Air Force is superb.

This rotates among the services.

So

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it's got to

be an Air Force person this year.

And so what he's doing is sticking another Air Force retired guy who he thinks will be right wing and knuckle under.

We cannot let the military be politicized.

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I

can't emphasize that enough.

This is not a trivial thing.

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And Matt, we got three minutes here before the break or so, and we'll pick it up on the other side.

I want to have you start talking about, because your unique perspective, not only are you a Navy veteran, you're also an attorney, talk about, because I think this part got a little overshadowed with what we just talked about.

Not to say that we just, what we just talked about is unimportant, it's not.

But talk to us about the importance also of Trump firing, I believe it was 18,

inspectors general.

And these are the folks, Matt, keep me honest here, as I understand it, these JAG officers and JAG officers in the military and also the inspectors general across the administration, these are the people that know the law and in the military, correct me if I'm wrong, the JAG officers are the one group of folks that can tell the generals, no, you don't have to follow that order from the commander in chief because it's unconstitutional.

You're right.

What Trump did is for two separate reasons.

For the 18 inspectors, these are the ones that are in effect ombudsmen who look at these agencies and inspect them for illegality and fraud.

Trump and Musk are fraud on the hoof.

They do not want anybody there blowing the whistle on their fraud.

And so as a result, they fire these people and they're going to put in compliant people, magnetized people, or they won't replace them at all.

And all that does is accelerate fraud in agencies.

With regard to the JAG officers, JAG, by the way, stands for Judge Advocate General.

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And

I in Milwaukee, in the Milwaukee Navy League, am the Judge Advocate General for the Navy League.

And it's the legal officer just for the Navy League in Milwaukee.

It's real small potatoes.

But the JAG Corps at the higher levels in the Army, Navy, Air Force, et cetera, exactly right.

The generals, if he gives an order,

All right, I want to send American troops to Ukraine and to side with the Russians in combat a Jag officer at the highest levels will say to the general the admiral You cannot obey that order.

That is an illegal order.

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You

can't do it They don't do it frequently obviously, but they can do it by removing them and perhaps not replacing them or replacing them with people like the Pam Bondes of the Attorney General who are basically Stepford lives or their werewolves and the rest of them you take

He has found a way, a chink in the Constitution, to destroy a democracy by using the Constitution.

That's because the president, the executive controls the prosecution, controls the attorney general.

Nobody ever thought they'd put corrupt people in, but they have.

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Stay tuned.

More Matt Flynn on the other side.

Matt Flynn direct, Todd Albaugh on a Monday, February 24th on the Civic Media Radio Network.

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It's a mashup.

I think what a time or is they call it mashup?

No, what do you mash up two things like that songs or shows?

Yeah, yeah mashup or The main thing very good little a flim and all ball mashup here on on a Tuesday if you like to call in ask a question for Matt 855-752-4842 855-752-4842 the phone lines are all open all callers welcome

no points of view off limits.

Is that what you say, Matt?

Have I got it close?

Yeah.

That's what we used to do.

That's what you do.

It's

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great, it's a great way to do

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it.

Yeah, absolutely.

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Let's go to the text line first, if we could, Mr. Summers, a caller in Racine, the Chuckster in Racine calling in and wants to ask Matt, what happens to, we're talking about, by the way, before the break, Donald Trump,

firing some of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, other officers, JAG officers as well.

And the Chuckster asks Matt, what happens to the generals, admirals and officers that Trump fires?

Can they still serve the US military in other roles?

What about their military rank and pensions?

Or are they just out?

Matt?

Right, no excellent question, Chuckster.

And here's the answer.

If all he does is fire them, no, they go back into active service.

They keep their pensions under any circumstances.

However, with some of them, like with Miley, he reduced him in rank, and he reduced his pension, and he threatened him with prosecution, took away his security detail.

Remember Tommy Tuberville?

who is one of the worst senators, it threats the United States.

Tommy Tuberville of Alabama stopped about 500 promotions of flag type officers for 10 months.

He demoralized our military.

Many of them retired early.

We lost an awful lot of experience.

The Republican Party does not love America.

It does not love our military.

It hates, and I'm talking about the new Republican Party under Trump.

It hates America.

And it hates our military.

And so Trump, what he can do with some of these people, I don't think he will, because they haven't ticked him off enough, he can say, I'm reducing you in rank, which will reduce their pension.

He can say,

You're out.

You can't be an officer anymore, but he has to say that.

We can't just replace

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them.

And Matt, I mean, look, I mean, you can tell me off, we're friends, I don't care, as long as you keep an FCC compliant.

But I mean, I don't disagree.

I agree with you that I believe that Donald Trump and the people that he's appointing to these cabinet posts and also some of the leadership, I think that they don't care about America.

I think that Trump is a Russian asset.

But I would amend that in my opinion.

You push back if you want.

I don't think that everybody in Wisconsin who's a local party chair or votes Republican, I don't think they hate America.

And I don't even necessarily think that every Republican in Congress hates America.

And I got to keep myself FCC compliant.

I think they're just chicken crap.

I mean, they don't have any backbone.

They don't have any hoodspot.

Well, look, I know a lot of people are Republicans even in my own family and some people voted for Trump I respect all of that.

We are a democracy We need two parties center right and center left 90% of the Republican Party are patriotic Americans 90% But the 10% are the ones that are running the Republican Party and Trump and his cabinet are emblematic of those You're absolutely right that not every congressman and not every senator hates America

But one of the sad things is they're getting death threats.

It's not just that they're afraid of primaries.

Some people in that Congress could survive a primary, even if Trump opposed them.

But Tillis of North Carolina, when Hegseth, the Secretary of Defense, was up for confirmation.

There were three votes against him among the Republicans.

That was Moscow

Mitch,

that was Collins of Maine, and the Murkowski of Alaska, and all it required was one more.

And he put the word out, I'm going to oppose him.

The FBI came to tell us and said there were credible death threats against you and your family, and he caved for that reason.

Donald Trump, remember, encouraged a mob to hang his vice president, hang Mike Pence, and he pardons them.

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after they were unsuccessful.

Look, I'm not making this up.

This is true.

This is serious.

I know Republicans in Wisconsin who either didn't endorse Trump or who endorsed Harris and only half jokingly tell me now, I don't go into any buildings above the second floor.

The phones are lighting up as Matt likes to say do not hang up We will take you in order of your calls eight five five seven five two four eight four two Mark and per to sack mark if you can make a brief.

What say

you?

just remember that the Romans could actually consider the term king as a curse word.

I mean, even the emperors didn't, even though they're more power than the kings, they never assumed the title of king.

We rejected kings on this country after the revolution.

Washington had achieved a crown and didn't.

And for Donald Trump to do this, if Republicans not to say, you know, to reject this, based on that alone should have been an impeachable thing that he did.

I mean, it is just a crime against the Constitution.

And these people take an oath to the Constitution, not to Donald Trump.

You're absolutely right.

We're not going to have a king, but what's amazing about this guy is he comes right out and says, I'm switching sides.

Zelensky's bad, Putin's good, and he expects the country to go along with him.

Do not go along with him.

I don't care if you write letters to the Canadian ambassador, the British ambassador, and the French ambassador saying that Donald Trump is a traitor to the United States, the American people don't stand with him.

That's, we have to have an expression, a popular expression of support for our NATO allies in Canada,

which

is also a NATO ally.

Donald Trump cannot be permitted in the middle of a war to say we're switching sides.

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Let's go to beautiful Sussex, Gary, out on the road.

And Sussex, Gary, thanks for calling.

What's up?

Well, I got a couple of things.

First of all, I'm a mega Republican and I love America.

And I love our military.

When I see military guys, I buy them lunch.

So for you, Matt, to go out there and say in the beginning, you did kind of explain yourself after Todd told you that there's a lot of good Republicans that love America.

And you did explain yourself.

And you

have a right to your opinion.

I don't want to use words, but I think that

I don't know.

What's your

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question?

What's

your question,

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Gary?

What's your

point?

You said in the beginning, we got to take Donald Trump out.

Now, if I told you, Matt, I'm going to take you out.

I said lawfully.

He

said lawfully.

Wait a minute.

I said lawfully that this impeachment, this criminal prosecution.

Look at Gary, let me tell you something.

You've been on the phone with me for many years.

And

I appreciate your point of

view, but I'm gonna leave you with one.

Hold on I'm gonna leave you with one thought and that is this You vote for Trump.

That's fine.

But if you think That Trump can switch us to Russia against Ukraine and we're gonna put up with it You're wrong.

You should not put up with it.

You

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should

not print up with it Let me ask Gary quickly.

Republicans.

I like your Eisenhower

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Gary before before you leave.

I just really quickly I'm interested in your in your answer.

Do you do you endorse?

what Trump is doing, switching sides in the Ukraine-Russia war.

Well, first of all, Zelensky is a dictator.

He's not.

He went out

there.

Oh, come on, Gary.

Why the hell are you even calling him to the show?

Call him to the right wing radio.

Matt, Matt,

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let

me ask

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you a question.

You already chewed up a lot of time.

Okay, let's, Gary, Gary, come back.

I got a lot of callers on the phone, so let's, I gotta keep moving.

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Joe and Madison and WMDX.

Joe, go ahead.

I would say that Quincy is not a dictator and Gary doesn't know what he's talking about.

Let's not take it

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personal, but yes, all right, let's move on.

Go ahead.

Well, point made.

And two questions I want to ask you, Matt, I'm bearing on your knowledge and your understanding of things.

Two of them.

One has to do with NATO.

The other one has to do with this talk of annexing Canada.

Can you tell me if NATO survives, given this turn that Trump has done, where he's allowing himself

with the dictator Putin.

Where we sit in terms of NATO, does this blow up NATO?

Do the Europeans have to look at a brand new fighting force that they put together from scratch?

Do the leases that we have

that U.S.

has for bases in Europe, do those get blown up as part of this?

How on earth does NATO survive if we go forward with this idea of supporting leaving Zelensky on the trash heap and going with dictator Putin?

My second question is, Trump has been talking about annexing Canada.

Isn't an annexation an illegal military

occupation of a country?

How on earth would we do that, given a country of that size and a country that is perfectly capable of putting forward, if US troops went in there, a long time guerrilla warfare against us?

Your thoughts on those two issues.

Thank you very much, Matt.

That was excellent, Joe, as always.

Let me start with NATO.

It's good news and bad news.

The good news is that our NATO allies, recognizing that Trump

is an aberration, but somebody they have to deal with are planning for unification against Russia without him.

And here's what they're doing.

There are talks going on right now between Germany, France and the UK that the UK and France will cover Germany and Italy with their nuclear weapons.

So their nuclear weapons, the UK and France are not as substantial as ours, but they're very, very capable of eliminating the Soviet Union.

The problem is,

the minute there's any nuclear weapon launched.

What happened at Hiroshima and Nagasaki is small potatoes.

It would literally destroy the major cities in the world.

We can't have it.

But they will get together.

They will send troops against Russia that goes into Poland or into Lithuania.

And so Article 5 will still be in effect, but by the Europeans.

But the problem is they're not going to let us stay on bases.

that they think are being used to serve Russian interests.

Trump is a criminal.

Trump is an enemy of the people and enemy of the United States.

So that's number one.

Number two, and for instance, we have a base in Holy Lock, Scotland, where we have our nuclear subs go for servicing and out to sea.

If that gets shut down, our nuclear subs are going to have to leave, say Norfolk or somewhere in the east coast of the United States.

And it's going to be a lot tougher.

Number two, with

Joe, I think your question was NATO and refresh me

Todd Allbaugh

again.

Go ahead, Thomas.

Yeah, it was NATO.

How is NATO going to survive?

Are they going to disband and create a new one?

Are we going to get kicked out of it?

And also, how do they deal with us talking about annexing Canada, since that seems clearly a vanity and illegal?

Right.

It's all a bad idea, but NATO will survive, but limp along hoping we get another president, a better one in 2028.

With regard to Canada, you know what's offensive about that?

I mean, I have a sister-in-law from Canada.

I mean, Canada are our friends.

We are integrated economically.

Todd Allbaugh

William Shatner's from Canada.

Jim

Naver's

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from Canada.

Paul Saver.

What he does is he'll say stuff like this.

He'll say,

Okay, I'm going to make Gaza into a resort.

He doesn't mean it.

He says it to get headlines.

But as a result of his saying that there were fights between the hockey teams in Boston, it was terrible.

It was disgusting, pitting us ostensibly against them.

He can't do it.

He can't do it for a variety of reasons.

It is a violation of international law.

It's an invasion.

Number two, the people are not going to put up with it.

But he will say the most provocative, disgusting

things to get a headline and rile up like Gary Assasics.

He'll rile up some of his base.

And Canada is our friend.

It is a member of NATO.

Right.

You can't have a NATO.

It's a member of NATO.

You can't have a member of NATO.

See, I'm going to occupy another NATO country.

Todd Allbaugh

It won't happen, Joe.

Thank you for your excellent questions as always.

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Every single one of our six phone lines are lit up like a Christmas tree.

Can you stay a little, can you stay an extra 10 minutes into hour two if we can't get through everybody?

Yeah, sure.

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Matt Flynn, our friend, ongoing contributor, two-time chair of the Democratic Party of Wisconsin and attorney, U.S.

Naval veteran and author joins us here on a Monday with Matt Flynn.

Always a pleasure, Matt, as you do so well.

You get people engaged, every phone line full, as Matt likes to say, do not hang up.

We will take you in order of your calls, 855-752-4842.

Let's get right to the phone lines.

Gene in Eau Claire.

on WCFW.

Jean, what's the?

Well, great to hear your voice, Matt.

Again, it's wonderful.

I mean, you have a lot of experience in a lot of different areas, and it makes me sick.

The way that Trump talks about Zelensky, he just, he makes me sick.

But anybody that's a dictator, I mean, people are saying, if they're spewing it, they're doing it.

And we got dictator Trump right here.

Going after economy, going after jobs, going after people's nuts, eggs, putting in Elon Musk, who doesn't even have any experience, and then Elon Musk has the kahuna to send notes to people that you better say the best five things or the things you get on your job.

Well, if you don't know what the devil's are doing on their jobs, you shouldn't be supervisory even going into those departments deciding who gets the say and go.

I can't believe it, man.

It's like weapons of mass destruction with Trump in our economy and our whole country, and it's just unbelievable.

Is there any one issue that we can all unite on or any direction that we can take?

And I'll take my answer off the air.

Thank you so much, Matt, for all your information.

Bye.

Great to hear from you as always Jean.

Yeah, let me just quick hit two things One is let me take Ukraine and Zelensky.

Zelensky is a good man.

He really is he's been compared to the Churchill of the modern era and for Donald Trump just in the middle of a war basically say we're switching sides That can't be done.

We can't permit that I'd encourage everybody you want some small thing you can do write a letter or an email to the ambassadors of our allies

to Canada, the UK, France, Italy, Spain, Germany.

Tell them how much we value our alliances.

Donald Trump does not speak for us.

He's a bad man, and we are not going to support him in any of this baloney.

Number two, though, is Elon Musk.

Now, Elon Musk, let me put it to you very succinctly.

He's worth $400 billion.

His aspiration is to be the first trillionaire.

Think about that.

Trillionaire.

But his road to being a trillionaire goes through Social Security and Medicare.

Yeah.

Goes through Social Security and Medicare.

They're cutting right now.

You're not going to be able to afford an old age home or assisted living if you're a person of modest means in our small counties around the state.

All of this stuff is paid for by either Medicaid or Medicare.

So many things.

They are they are simply taking it apart.

Judges are standing tall.

But the Sixth Tarantulas on the Supreme Court still have to weigh in.

And even if they finally weigh in OK, they have no army.

Trump is using the Constitution.

He's seen a chink in it.

He controls the army and the prosecutors to try to really destroy our country.

We must stand tall, write letters and emails to all of the ambassadors of our allies, say how much we treasure them.

Trump is a bad man, and Putin is our enemy.

Todd Allbaugh

eight five five seven five two four eight four two go out to the west coast and uh well i'm sorry actually ollie first of all go up to uh north woods that ollie is first ollie i was just up there in hayward it's a beautiful part of the uh uh state if you can make it quick please ollie go ahead

well i just agree with um mr finn and um i called the ukraine embassy this morning and left a message um asking them to

relay to

President Zelensky not to trust Trump.

He's a liar.

He's broken laws from day one and look what he's done to America in one short month.

They should not believe a word he says.

The number is 202-349-2963.

I encourage everyone to call them and express their dismay at Trump.

That is a wonderful message.

Thank you for calling in let the Ukrainian embassy know let all of our allies know Trump is a liar.

He's a Russian asset He does not represent the vast majority of the United States and we will not permit him to do what he's doing

Todd Allbaugh

Let's go quickly to the West Coast LA Tom LA you got about a minute if you can get it in please go ahead

All right people need to remember out there that Ukraine through the Bucharest Accord

actually got rid of their nuclear weapons, actually called people in the United States to get rid of some of their uranium.

We need to stand by Ukraine 150,000% because of the fact that they could have actually had that nuclear weapon and have taken out Russia themselves, but they chose to want to make a new day for themselves and America needs to stand behind them 150,000%.

Thank you.

Great call, Ellen with you, and I'll tell you what they need to be a NATO and we need to stand by Ukraine Russia under Putin is an enemy of the United States

Todd Allbaugh

What do you think Angie Angie Monroe listening on MDX to do it in 30 seconds Angie?

Well, no, she was actually not the next caller.

I'm sorry all right.

Todd Allbaugh

We'll we'll get it in after the the next break here Matt Thanks for staying around.

We know your time is is valuable.

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Well, look go to Amazon or Barnes and Noble look for Matt Flynn Matthew Flynn and look for Milwaukee Jihad China code or hunting Bernie Weber There you go in there that you've heard on the radio.

Todd Allbaugh

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