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Is A “Workhorse, Not A Show Horse” Enough In 2025? (Hour 1)
The Todd Allbaugh Show · Wed Feb 19, 2025
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Good afternoon, everybody.
I'm Tom Allmott, along with Aaron Zommers, our fantastic producer and engineer.
It is six past the hour of 12 noon on this Wednesday, February 19th, 2025.
It is a great day to be a Wisconsinite, and
is hot day.
It's cold, but not too cold for a camel.
even the camel was able to get things up and get the engine started.
Across Wisconsin today, some school districts decided to wait another day to have classes or delayed classes by two hours out of concern for particularly young students while waiting to bus stops around the state.
It's supposed to warm up maybe into the 40s, and Mr. Zomers, I know you've run hot, but this is even a little cold for I bet you.
Yeah, it's a little bit chilly.
You
That's right.
So be careful out there.
If you're driving yet today, temperatures will begin to warm, but many cold weather warnings across the state of Wisconsin.
As we said,
going to warm up tomorrow.
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Lots to get to today.
In the news, we have a DPI Department of Public Instruction race set between a conservative and a progressive.
We'll talk about that for the results of the election last night.
And what influence will Elon Musk's money have on that race?
He's already pledged almost a million dollars in dark money for the state Supreme Court race.
We'll talk a little bit about that.
Speaking of dark, President Trump now saying that it is President Zelensky of Ukraine, who's the dictator and the aggressor after Russia was the one that unprovoked attacked Ukraine.
What that means for American international relations.
Trig V. Olsen, of course, has spent time promoting him and helping democracy in Eastern Europe.
We'll talk about that.
But we're going to start where Zomers and I left off last night.
What?
a little over 11 hours ago here at the same studio after Governor Tony Evers.
gave his budget address, his biennial budget address.
Not only that, it only happens every two years.
But Tony Evers was there to give the budget address.
And before I bring on, Pat Crichtlow, host of Up North News Radio, a former news anchor at WEAU in beautiful Eau Claire, also a former Democratic state senator representing the beautiful Chippewa Valley and Trigvielson Senior Advisor at Lincoln Project.
Let me set the stage and then I'll tell, we'll have Crichtlow tell me why I'm wrong.
Let me set the stage.
I've never written a budget address, but I've attended a lot as a longtime state senate staffer.
I wrote a lot of speeches for my former boss, Dale Schultz, when he was the senate majority leader.
Here's what happens when you do an off year, when you don't have a state budget due, your state of the state is kind of addressed is a combination between cheerleading for the state.
And then you pick one, two, no more than three things to say, hey, I want the legislature to do this with me before you adjourn and go campaign.
On years like this, where there's a budget up, your state of the state is largely a cheerleading event.
You have all kinds of people from across the state.
You tell people how great the state is, and then you identify two or three stories, and you say, come on back in a month, and we're gonna tell you how you get it done.
Then you have, what you had last night, your budget address where you lay out highlights, not a accountant litany of numbers, but a few highlights because what you're doing is you're trying to lobby, literally lobbyists, legislators, and the general Wisconsin public to get on board with your ideas.
I've said this before, I'll say it again, and this is a serious offer.
I would go and help the Evers campaign, the Evers not campaign office write speeches.
I don't know who's in charge over there.
I don't know if it's Brick Cutterback, their communication people over there.
That was one of the worst God awful speeches a politician, a politician has ever delivered in my years of watching political speeches.
It was rambling.
The governor seemed annoyed to be there.
I think he'd rather gone and watch the Badger basketball game where he has season tickets.
God love him for that.
There were no stories.
There was no narrative.
There was some meat in there.
We're going to talk about that.
But Pat Crightlow, I was deeply disappointed.
Somebody stayed up past their bedtime last night.
I did, actually.
Somebody, boy, make you work a little late into the night on a speech.
You got to take it out on the guy giving the
speech.
Well, come on.
I mean, I know you're a Democrat.
There are lots of good things that he put in there of substance.
But come on, be on his pad.
That was a terrible, he gave a terrible speech.
Who do you think he was speaking to?
I
don't know.
That's the point.
That's the point.
I don't know.
Do you think he thought for a moment
that somebody on the other side of the aisle would stand and applaud and say, you are absolutely right, governor.
After all these years of resisting, your words have convinced me and I am going to cross the aisle right now and join your democratic breath.
No, he wasn't talking to them.
He
was agreed to
them.
Yeah, I thought you should be talking to the Wisconsin people of Wisconsin and you've seen Tommy Thompson do it.
You've seen Jim Doyle do it.
People of
Wisconsin are tuning in for a budget address.
No, but it's the budget.
He
could
he talks it is the ultimate insider game.
It's it is the ultimate inside baseball.
The only nerd nicks watching it are people like you and me who have worked in the building or have covered the building or have any idea what you know, the policy process is of passing a budget.
And when you're talking to them, you are not in persuasion mode.
All right, you're looking like the fighter that you are for your particular flag, for your particular party, for your particular cause, and you are unapologetic about it because you know darn well that to show, to show any kind of conciliatory view in the opening of a budget negotiation is weakness.
You negotiate later.
This is where you're laying out your starting grid for the race.
I lost
track of how many times Governor Evers used this phrase last night.
The legislature should approve my plan, I feel in the blank.
Kids will perform better.
The legislature should approve my plan, my plan, my plan.
And some of the plan actually was good.
Much of it was good.
But you know what Tommy Thompson, Jim Doyle used to do?
Here's what he could have done on that.
He could have said, you know what, Speaker Voss, turn around and look at him.
I know he don't agree on it a lot.
But you know what?
I bet we could agree on this.
Didn't you graduate sixth grade from, you know, whatever, whatever, high school or elementary school in Burlington?
They do a great job.
Don't they have a speaker voice?
How many votes did they get together?
But you're signaling to the people of Wisconsin that you're not the jerk.
You're trying to reach across the aisle.
It's not the people
of Wisconsin.
It's you're
talking to your own
team going, here's what we're going to push for.
And these lazy bums are not coming along.
Alright, let's bring an arbitrator.
Trig V. Olson,
what say you?
Pass.
Keep going.
This is why he gets to travel around the world giving advice.
Right.
And I sit here and chip
real fast.
His literal motto is, if you've got a problem, I got a plane to
That being said I do think he could have done a little bit better based on what I read with the theatrics and the building the broader narrative that I'm the one who's trying to fight for all people here and there are things we can agree on because it would have put the other side in that inside baseball game a little bit on the defensive.
The strategy should have been how do I divide and conquer Voss's
caucus which is not monolithic.
It's mostly but not entirely.
Which is exactly what the governor did when talking for example about extending Medicaid coverage to new moms for one year and he purposefully singled out Robin Voss not by name but said this is a bill that has more than 90 votes in this chamber and yet one guy is not letting it get passed.
And and people
He's not Tommy Thompson or Jim Doyle Oh Tommy or Doyle would have literally gone at Robin or would have cited some Republican friends who I share this with and and Amped it up.
I would have oh, yeah, I would read up.
I would read out if you want to run for governor Pat.
I'm all I'm all in
until you've got a problem, then I'm going to have a
plane to catch.
See, he's reliable that way.
Right.
Here's my point.
You're right.
Tony Evers is not a dynamic speaker.
He never will be.
But the people writing that speech for him could have at least put the words in there.
So if people read it, well, you know, he didn't deliver it that great, but it was there.
They attempted to do it.
No
taxes on tips, no sales taxes on over-the-counter medications, middle-class tax cut, all those things that regular people want to hear are
in there.
Here's a question, Pat.
Tony Evers is 73 years old.
He'll be 75 years old when his next term is up.
Do Democrats in this state really want an old, white, 75-year-old guy who can't give speeches as their nominee for governor in two years?
Well, now we're back to that parlor game with Joe Biden.
Are you voting
for the person?
Are you voting for the person or are you voting for the figurehead?
Meaning it doesn't matter if he can't run 100 meter hurdles.
Does he still have the values that voters want and is he willing to push for them and not cave?
And the one thing that you know, Tony Evers can't necessarily be accused of is caving to Republicans.
There have been one or two times people have disagreed with his approach to getting a bill passed, but he's never had to veto a budget.
and then force state government to run on last year's budget for an extended period of time.
So he's always been forward active on the budget.
And that's something that makes him, you know, not a stubborn, you know, far left or far right governor, makes him a practical man who's getting things done.
All right, we're going to move on to the actual substance here.
A couple of cuts from last night's address by Governor Tony Evers.
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Pat Crichtlow, you were gone for a while.
You had a wonderful time down
south.
I spent a wonderful week in the Dominican Republic
on
beach with...
hardly any intrusion by news or real life or anything.
It was the perfect quiet way to recharge the batteries.
And I could not be more grateful to you for filling in for part of that along with Dr. Lirely and Greg Bach.
I enjoyed having the week off so much.
I'm doing it again next week.
Not by not by choice, just through weird coincidental scheduling that next week there is a courier newsroom event that I'll be attending.
So yeah, I'm I'm working an entire week this week, Todd.
And then I got I got to take another week off.
I'm sorry.
There's so many things I could say, but I'll just get
so
I was joking around because, you know, Tommy used to say, oh, Wisconsin's a kind of place where you go away for a vacation.
You come home and your neighbor mowed your yard.
They come out with a bag of cheese curds of one hand and a six pack of Miller light the other and say, welcome home, friend.
And Crichtlow posted a picture that they got home and their driveway was full of snow and he had to motor through into the garage.
Which I, I, I quit.
correctly corrected the record that our neighbor who would have done it, we expressly told him not to, because he had just had hip surgery.
Oh lord, poor guy.
Do not,
help us, we'll be fine.
So now I'm the one with, for, I'm now on day four of a really sore lower back, but at some point I'll need the surgery and you know, somebody else will take care of me.
Was that a CBS midi series young and limber?
He got onto the stage and gave a biennial budget address last night.
Here's something I thought hit home talking about extending badger care for a postpartum of women.
Here's Governor Evers from last night's biennial budget
In the year of the kid, let's finally do what's best for our moms and babies.
Let's extend postpartum coverage for pregnant women on badger care up to one year after giving birth.
Wisconsin and Arkansas are the only two states in America that haven't done this.
I mean, nothing against Arkansas, but come on, folks.
I have proposals in every budget.
I've been introduced as governor.
There's also a bipartisan bill to get it done that almost 90 legislators support.
One legislator should not be able to single-handedly obstruct the bill that's supported by a super much.
And that was what you referenced.
See
now at that point you know that's when in this day and age you would half expect Speaker Voss who was sitting directly behind him
to basically start picking a fight with them right there.
And, you know, because we're in that era of who is that guy's name, Joe Wilson, who, who yelled you lie at President
State of the Union.
We're, we're in that era now where I half expected Robin Vos to just.
interrupt him and go well I just think all Medicaid is welfare and then try to make Tony Evers you know look like Joe Biden on the debate stage.
I don't think we're far away from that unfortunately in this American political world but at least at this point a governor can still make a speech and take a shot at the speaker and the speaker she's got to sit there and take it because it's not his turn to give the speech.
Instead he was sitting behind Evers looking like he just ate a banana and drank a bunch of Sprite and it was starting to bubble up.
That's
new
Boss was making a lot of faces on that.
He
you invite them to yap back and it just gets,
back.
All right, here's Governor Evers proposing lots of tax cuts last night in the speech.
Here is one of them on property taxes, Governor Evers.
Wisconsinites wouldn't have to raise their own property taxes to keep school lights on and doors open if this Legislature invested in K through 12 education from the get-go and the budget I'm announcing tonight proves we can both make the investments in our kids that we need to and hold the line on prop prevent property taxes from going up All told
Our pro-kid budget will do its best for our kids by providing more than $3.15 billion.
All of it is spendable revenue for schools across Wisconsin.
And we're going to make those investments while holding the line in property taxes to ensure the average homeowner will not see a property tax increase.
My budget would create a new incentive for local governments to freeze their local property taxes.
If local governments agree not to raise local property taxes, they'll get a direct payment from the state.
This will ensure local partners can still afford to pay for basic and unique local needs alike without property taxes going up.
All right, Pat Crightlough.
I asked former Republican State Senator Rob Coles last night, current Democratic State Senator, Kelder Royce, Lieutenant Governor Sarah Rodriguez.
Can you talk to my former boss?
Nobody could give me an answer.
What does he mean by this?
If locals don't increase their property taxes, the state will pay for their needs.
Where does that money come from and who's the arbitrator that decides who gets the
money?
Here's, here's, well, take, let's go back a step here.
I'll try to be quick.
I know you're running short on time, but by Republicans short changing public schools for 16 years now, it means that property taxpayers have had to increase their own property taxes to make up the difference when it should be the legislature funding it through state taxes, which are, which comes through the income tax, which is the more progressive tax.
And so what Evers is saying is this is a backdoor way to get back to that, to say if you don't raise the property taxes locally, we'll backfill it with state funding, which is coming from a fairer, progressive pot.
And that way the Republicans don't have to, he's basically helping the Republicans say face, saying, oh, we like tax freezes.
Yes, we'll go along with that.
No, they won't really, but they'll
they'll do that better than actually making up for 16 years of shortfalls.
So it's, it's kind of a gimmick, but it's kind of one that would get the system back to where it should be and saves Republicans if, if they would choose to go along with it.
Best
explanation I've heard so far.
Don't quite get it, but great explanation.
Always appreciate you, Pat.
Thank you very much.
Pat Kratlow every morning, six to eight of Up North Use Radio.
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Todd Albaugh along with engineer, producer Aaron Zommerz and per usual on a Wednesday.
He is a River Falls boy, a native of Wisconsin, a mean hockey player and like myself, a former Republican and now a senior advisor at the Lincoln Project.
Trigvielson joins us from his home in our nation's capital.
Many thanks to Pat Crichtlow for coming on today as per usual.
We always appreciate him as well.
Well, talking a little bit, we're gonna wrap this up and then move on to Ukraine.
But I wanted just to kind of put a point on this, Governor Evers' biennial budget address last night.
Look, he had some good substance in there.
I'm not begrudging him that at all.
But I guess I get so hung up on it because there are not a lot of things that I feel I do particularly well.
or have experience in, speech writing happens to be one of them.
And I guess it angers me because I've been in meetings with Governor Evers back when he was the DPI secretary with my boss, and he's a lovely person.
He's a sincere person.
He's a serious person.
And he can actually be pretty funny in private.
I just don't feel the people around him are serving him well and representing him across the state.
is that whoever is doing his speech writing and preparing him for these things, even if he's not that great a speaker, they're not preparing him for the moment we live in today where politics are reality TV.
It does not matter if you have good substance in your speech.
It matters if you make a good TikTok out of it.
That's a great point, Zomers.
And one of our callers on the line says speech is also to create bites for radio and other media.
Evers just seems to be getting tired of the job.
So to your point, Somers, you're right.
People can say, well, that doesn't make sense.
Well, it doesn't, but that's the reality of the media that we live in today.
855-752-4842, 855-752-4842.
Let's go out to beautiful Los Angeles and LA Tom.
LA, I know you're a Wisconsin native yourself, but boy, the weather I'm sure is nicer out here.
It is frigid in Wisconsin.
Yeah, it's been 75 years today.
Good for you.
What do you got?
Yeah.
All right.
So, honestly, I thought Tony's speech was brilliant.
I felt like he's someone that understands the average person in Wisconsin.
I
thought he took away the whole idea of tax cuts from the Republicans.
I thought that if Tony were anything different than what Tony is, which is just a dull kind of person,
it wouldn't work with him being anything different.
He is very, very dull.
And I think that that's one way that the right wing really can't go after him because he doesn't really bring about excitement either way.
And I think that that's one of the reasons why he's been successful, especially when you had such a zealot like Scott Walker, that the Wisconsin people just
of got
I think tired of the whole, you know, what do you call partisan politics?
And I think Tony just kind of is someone that gets Wisconsin.
He's a grandpa.
He understands education.
He is someone that, you know, cares about his wife.
He's someone that is just kind of a good man, I think.
And I think that's a lot of people look at him as.
No, I don't think you get no argument.
He's not a fire breather.
He's not a fire breather.
And I appreciate that, Antonio.
I mean, Zomers, keep me honest.
I think I complimented his speech in the last month of the State of the State.
I said, you know what?
For him, that was a pretty good speech.
And so, like, he has the ability to do that.
I guess as I listen to you, L.A.,
I think thanks for the therapy on the radio live.
I think part of the reason I'm so ticked off today is because I want a Democrat to be a leader.
I want to be inspired.
What's happening in DC right now, I'm looking for somebody to say, yes, that's my person that I can get behind.
And while he's everything that you said, kind, nice, authentic, all those things, it's just not inspiring.
And I guess maybe I'm too much of a whatever.
Maybe that's too much to ask, but I appreciate your call, LA.
Thank you so much.
A-5-5-7-5-2-4-8-4-2, Trigvie?
Like, he's the guy you want as your high school social studies teacher.
He's the guy you want as your neighbor.
I mean, I make the point on this show all the time if I could.
move back to Wisconsin and had Tony Evers as my neighbor on the left and Robin as my neighbor on the right.
I'd be in pretty good stead in terms of my neighbors, not maybe so much in terms of them getting along politically.
But the bottom line is, you know, I've said this before, like I'm less, and I think most people in Wisconsin, what they're really looking for is a cheerleader for the state, somebody who's, and
Tommy Thompson was that Jim Doyle was that in a different way It doesn't mean that you can't be that and somebody that's gonna fight for for the things that make Wisconsin great And I I don't think people in Wisconsin I think people do in Wisconsin due to a degree get how special Wisconsin is but I don't think they fully get that and things like public education the University of Wisconsin system They're the hubs of our communities
We're good people who want to help their neighbors whether they're MAGA or they're on the far left and He needs to take that challenge straight at the people that are obstructing those core things conservation.
Yeah, we didn't get to the War Knolls Defend they want
who's a cheerleader and a defender of our way of life
Right and the governor to his credit proposed extending the Knowles Nelson stewardship fund and we're hearing now that Republicans want to do away with that.
I mean, I mean what what?
Take it take it straight to them.
Right.
Agreed.
All right.
Our phones are lit up.
We got to go quickly 855-752-4842 855-752-4842.
Let's go to Chippewa Valley.
Gene in Eau Claire listening to WCF WG and always a pleasure.
What's a you?
Hi guys, great show as usual, but I have to say that I love this governor and I've watched lots of governors.
He's a work horse, not
show horse, and it's up to the people and it's up to people who represent us to be speaking about speaking out instead of just their governor because he is working.
He's been, I've never seen a governor outside the state very often.
Boy, he's been over here filling pot holes, doing lots of work.
meeting with teachers, meeting with other people to meet with small business.
I mean, the guy is great.
What you see is what you get, and that's a guy who cares about the people.
So I'm a big mouth.
But I appreciate his quiet, serene, a big step.
So thank you very
much, you guys.
Have a good day, okay?
Appreciate you, Jean, as always.
You make it great.
Thanks, Jean.
Thank you, Jean.
She makes a great point.
Evers has been.
I mean, he does get out there to his credit.
And no, I think that's a great point.
Let's go quickly to Rob in Port Edwards, 855-752-4842.
Rob in Port Edwards, thanks for calling.
And Rob, what's up?
Thank you gentlemen, and I would mimic the young lady that called in from Chippewa Truthfully this gentleman does get it done, but in a different demeanor He's not a gaslighter is not a hooter and a hollerer But it doesn't mean that people aren't actually listening and following what he's doing and saying and more of the doing part than the same part he's a man of action and
And it's a breath of fresh air with all due respect to Tommy Thompson and Jim Doyle and Mr. Walker.
This guy's getting things done for the state or certainly showing, stand up showing that he's trying to.
So yeah, don't.
Speeches are one thing actions are an entirely different thing and I'll take it.
I'll take the actions any day Give a good
day gentlemen appreciate it Rob.
Thank you.
Great call.
Yeah, thanks 855-752-4842 855-752-4842 also text us on the Civic Media app You can download it at your Apple or Android device for free Kimber listening on WRCE and Richland Center living in the beautiful town of Muscatty the morale must room capital of the world Kimber in Muscatty says sad when being
exciting is considered for voters voting, but nonetheless, I agree with you both.
Also, we have Rob in Richland Center, on WRC East as I agree with L.A.
Tom, and Gene in Eau Claire.
Well, there you go.
And maybe Trig V, that's one of the reasons that Tony Evers continues to have the only major figure in Wisconsin, political figure that has a positive likability rating.
Maybe people, maybe in this era of sensationalism, maybe it's your nice grandpa who plays Yooker with you.
Maybe that's what people want in Wisconsin.
Maybe that's why he has been re-elected twice.
But the reality is, I think he... No one's disputing.
He's a nice guy.
No one's disputing that he works hard.
I just think that he...
he could be more aggressive in dividing and conquering those, because there are, you know, 90 people, including Republicans on that issue of expanding Medicaid, right,
A quarter of a quarter till the hour, Trigby Olson, Senior Advisor at Lincoln Project joins me.
Let's turn the page, Trigby.
Go to some international issues now.
But as you always point out, they come to roost here at home.
Yesterday, President Donald Trump is talking, and now,
And you keep me honest on this because you're the only person you're the only person that I know who's been banned from Russia by Putin himself But it would appear that Trump is literally using Russian Kremlin propaganda talking points and now blaming the president of Ukraine Vladimir Zelensky and Ukrainians for starting this war when we know factually it was Russia who was the aggressor unprovoked
who attacked Ukraine and Trump sending out misinformation yesterday on his true social and ex-Twitter saying that Zelensky has suspended elections as an unelected person with an all-time popularity rating of 4% in his country, which is factually wrong, incorrect, a lie.
Last credible polling in Ukraine had Zelensky at 52% popularity, which is actually higher than Trump.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know what to say about it I'm old enough to remember when when we had people like Reagan and George HW Bush and George Bush who Understood that you have to meet aggression with strength There is no doubt the Russians invaded Ukraine Ukraine Ukraine did not attack Russia I just think I don't understand it other than
Think about the things that Donald Trump has been talking about.
If he decides to send the 101st Airborne to Greenland, is that going to be the Danish attacked us and we had to invade Greenland?
I just think it's a worldview that is incredibly dangerous.
There is an element of this that is not dissimilar to what we had in 38 with Neville Chamberlain and appeasing
You know, Hitler and what that led to in Europe, the Europeans are panicked about it and justifiably so.
And this will have repercussions eventually for people in the United States.
It just will.
I'd be interested
It just, it makes me sad.
We're, it's not the kind of thing that it is.
It is literally the antithesis of the world that the greatest generation built and handed off to us.
And quite frankly, those of us who are Gen X, those of us, those who are baby boomers really should take a hard look at what kind of world we're leaving for our kids because it's not the world that we inherited from the greatest generation and we should all collectively.
Feel a sense of guilt and remorse for what we're doing and we're not leaving we're not leaving the country or the world
I'd be interested to hear what our listeners think of this just in terms of Ukraine and the sovereign people who were attacked by Putin somebody who is a War criminal he can't even travel the world there's a reason they're having these meetings in Saudi Arabia Because if he lands in most places in the world he'd be arrested
for his war crimes against Ukraine.
And yet, the president of the United States is going to fly to Saudi Arabia to have a dialogue with this guy.
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They
exactly talking about what's happening in Ukraine right now President Trump now blaming
Ukraine for the conflict that is patently false.
It is a lie.
We know that Russia that is completely unprovoked launched the attack three years ago.
And now Trump is icing Vladimir Zelensky, the president of Ukraine, out so far of negotiations to end the war.
that Ukraine had nothing to do in starting.
Where are your thoughts on this?
855-752-4842.
Let's go to the phone lines.
Tom calling in from beautiful Florida.
What is it today with all these people calling from warm locations?
I love it though.
Tom, hope you're staying warm down there.
What's up?
Well, Trump and Putin are meeting in secret to carve up Ukraine, but leaks are already emerging.
reliable sources say that Trump is conceding everything to Putin except what matters most.
The country's new name will be Trump Crane.
Trump Crane.
What a beautiful name.
it.
He reportedly considered changing Ukraine to Ukraine, but then he realized that Trump Crane has a beautiful ring to it.
And it's appropriate that he gives Trump Crane's rare earth minerals to his
billionaire buddies.
That's pretty good, Tom.
That's pretty, yeah, I mean, that's the way to get, just placate him, right?
If they would just give him, you know, make it all about him, he'd be more likely to be on their side.
That's good stuff.
Appreciate it.
855-752-4842.
Let's go to Mark, listening to Prayer to Sack.
Mark, thanks for calling.
Let's see.
all that's great for me but i mean it is just ridiculous what's going on to trump talk about this for ukraine it's just a complete lie on and unless fox news and the rest of the concert concert immediate call it call out for what it is it is just a complete lie i mean that you probably trumpified getting revenge because they didn't you know that uh... zolensky didn't help uh... trump out and then find a syrupy fake investigation of joe biden and his son in ukraine about that that's what he's still probably
gall the ball and for Donald, Donald Trump is just, uh, he's more or less sold us out.
I mean, I can remember, you know, Ronald Reagan is just, he's probably spun out of his grave by this point in time.
I mean, I thought it was unhelpful to continue to call the Russia, the evil, the USSR, the evil empire, even though they were, I didn't know if that was particularly helpful, but I mean, it is just discussing that Donald Trump and the Republicans are not calling him out on this.
How these people can sleep at night doing this kind of thing is just,
It's beyond me.
It's, you know, Marco Rubio should know better.
All the Republicans should know better.
He does know better.
That's the thing.
They
And they have to grow a set.
I mean, the fact that all our Republican legislatures in the State House and in Washington aren't calling this out for what it is that just a lie is just
It shows the moral cowardice that these people have.
Just a complete subservience to Donald Trump and to the lie.
I mean, it is just pure and simple a lie.
I mean,
thanks, Mark.
Appreciate the call.
Thank you so much.
Trigby, before we let you go, I want to get your quick take on this DPI race, Department of Public Instruction Race.
It was Dr.
Uh, Jill Underly for the Democrats coming through last night and Brittany Kinzer, the Republican back candidate, uh, Robin Voss, the Republican party.
Shimming have put a lot of money, a third party money into Kinzer.
Uh, she came through last night.
We had a story yesterday from Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.
Elon Musk backed group now putting in nearly a million dollars in two weeks for TV airtime in Wisconsin for the Supreme Court race Do you think that the race for Supreme Court is directly tied?
I just don't see this be a split vote.
I think a shimmer wins I think Kinzer the Republican for DPI wins
thing
in?
So there's going to be
of
That is so well put.
And that
Yeah, it absolutely matters.
So well put, Trevi, as you always do.
Appreciate it, my friend.
Stay safe, stay warm.
We'll talk to you next Wednesday.
Trevi Olsen, Senior Advisor at Lincoln Project.
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