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It is six past the hour of one o'clock.
Welcome into hour number two of the big program here in downtown Madison.
It is Wednesday, February 19th, 2025.
It is a great day to be Wisconsinite, and it is... Pump Day!
That's right.
A cold camel.
Now, does a cold camel give you camel ice cream?
Oh, that could be true too.
I'm gonna need something to keep me warm.
Heading out right after the show today, getting on the road.
Love doing this.
We continue looking and finding out what makes Wisconsin great.
One of those things is the classic ski race, the American Birkenbeiner, cross-country ski race, being held up at a beautiful Hayward once again.
And we are going to be there tomorrow broadcasting live from downtown Hayward.
We are going to attempt to do this outside.
So tune in.
If nothing else, it'll be entertaining.
So I'm putting on my Baxter State Parka.
I may have to find a heated vest or something.
Anyway, it's gonna be a lot of fun.
We have people lined up local folks are gonna stop by have some great sponsors as well So I'm looking forward to being in downtown Hayward tomorrow for the Birkenbeiner We're also gonna be there on Friday Do the show from there on Friday at the studios in downtown Hayward at WBZH the buzz of the north
Really?
Yeah.
I guess because I'll be talking most of the show, obviously.
So I worry less
My toes.
I worry
Gotta get some toe warmers.
Anyway, those are first world problems for Todd.
Big hour this hour.
We're gonna be discussing a little bit of the lighter stuff.
You said we weren't me at my me by Packer.
I for those watching the stream, I have a Packers quarter zip on today.
Why?
And our friend, Tony Loreno, brought this up.
I said, I'm going to steal this.
The age old question, why is it in Wisconsin when it gets cold?
We put our Packers gear on.
So if we have Packer stuff, you know, they put the Packer stocking cap.
And anyway, we'll we'll discuss that
a little
bit.
And also we have a what's worse for you today, dealing with household chores.
Household chores, that'll be a lot of fun as well.
And give you a little quiz question on foreign aid.
See what you know about that?
Wanna wrap up the topic we were finishing up with Trig V. Olsen on last hour.
And then this made a lot of news overnight.
President Donald Trump negotiating.
meeting with Vladimir Putin, president of Russia, they're gonna meet in Saudi Arabia.
One of the reasons they have to meet there is because there's a warrant out for Putin's arrest for international war crimes, for the slaughtering that he has committed of human lives.
And they're meeting to negotiate the end of the Ukrainian war, which, A, was not started by Ukraine, but rather by Russia,
And B, as of yesterday, Zelensky, the president of Ukraine, said he has not been directly involved in these talks.
Now, pretty hard to bring both sides together without having both sides there.
Trump is now, and I know this is an overused term, literally, but is literally, in other words, taking talking points that the Kremlin has put out on Ukraine and spreading those lies and disinformation as truth
out of the mouth of the president of the United States.
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If you'd like to check in with it, one of our longtime listeners, we always appreciate it when she checks in.
Joe, listing on WMDX in Madison.
Joe, thanks for calling in.
What do you want to say on the situation with Ukraine?
Thanks, Todd.
This is a really important issue, and I appreciate the time you spent on this.
I don't know if you've had Matt swim on recently, but I'd love to hear what his responses are.
We're going to work on that.
Yeah,
agree with you.
Yeah, yeah, really interesting.
You could do an hour or two with him.
Absolutely.
But I appreciate the fact that you introduced Putin as an international war criminal.
And it's important to remember that this guy is not just the leader of his country, he's former KGB.
And he's also a guy who's amassed a fortune, the estimate of $200 billion.
Gee, where'd he get the cash?
Was that his salary?
I doubt it.
So where'd the money come from?
Well, so who is this guy?
You know, he's all about reclaiming what he had had before.
And I think that Mark, in the last half hour, said it well that Trump is selling
us out.
He is going to sell out the United States.
All the prestige, the honor, the alliances that we built over these last decades are going to go right up the window.
And I don't think we can begin to imagine the damage.
I would point out to you that there was a recent story out of Poland that said the country of Poland is now making it compulsory for every child in Polish schools over the age of 14 to attend a weekly class.
that trains them in, quote, guns.
So it's how to load it, how to clean it, how to shoot it, but also first aid and other, quote, disaster information.
What are they getting ready for?
They're getting ready for Russia to attack them.
They're getting ready after the Russia attacks.
and kicks back the Baltics, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, and Moldova, all those countries, Poland's next, and they're making their plans.
And so their 14-year-old children are getting instruction in how to use guns.
And I'm sure it's going to be more than guns.
It's going to be, here's how you make an IED.
Here's how you make a Molotov cocktail.
Here's how you do whatever you can to salvage your country.
Everybody is watching.
They're watching and they're seeing a country that they had looked up to that's acting like a crazy person.
They're acting like crazy lying Trump and they are making other plans.
And it's across the world, whether it be Canada or Panama, you know, most of Central and South America sees that and goes, oh man, are they going to steal my country because I have lithium mines here?
What's ahead?
Man, we are losing what we had, which was alliances and respect and all that soft power.
And I would say to people that we are going to have a very different country if something doesn't stop soon.
I mean, all the alliances from five eyes, you know, that we've had for satellite.
That's going to be four eyes soon.
So nobody's going to be sharing with us information because they know that leaker boy is going to have it out immediately to Trump.
So a different world is ahead people.
And just because we've had stuff in the past doesn't mean we're going to have it in the future.
And Trump is about taking care of Trump and his rich pals, not us.
Thanks a lot, Todd.
I appreciate it.
Thank you, Joe.
Always a pleasure.
As Matt says, Matt Flynn, Joe nails it as she so often does on a couple of things, well, more than a couple.
But let me just.
pull out a couple of things that I really appreciate, Joe, bring it up.
Number one, this is destabilizing for the world and most especially for the United States.
If you break alliances like that, if you go against what has been the tradition, I mean, I still think American exceptionalism is a good thing.
I know some people don't like that, meaning that the United States for at least the last 75 years,
We've led the way on democracy around the world.
Hasn't always been perfect, hasn't always been pretty, but by and large, other countries have looked to the United States based on their wealth, their military strength, and their resolve to protect and extend democracy around the world.
Sometimes, many times imperfect democracy, but democracy nonetheless.
As Trig Wilson pointed out last hour, America's greatest generation
World War II veterans, both here at home and abroad, sacrificed greatly for the preservation of democracy when it was most in danger last against Hitler and Nazism in World War II.
And this what is going on now by Trump and the Trump administration is a disservice, a disrespect to all those who fought
and lost their lives to protect democracy prior.
Because this is not to Joe's point, when you have our allies like Poland training already their young people for a Russian invasion.
Because, I mean, French President Macron has said this recently, last couple of weeks, that Trump's actions and his administration's actions really raise questions of whether the United States can any longer be a reliable partner.
Take Trump the person out of the equation for the second It's the office of the president of the United States and all the trappings and the power that come with that office forget.
I know it's hard But set aside the person for a minute The fact that the occupant of the White House the president states is parrots talking points from a kg former kgb official in Vladimir Putin
a war criminal.
That's beyond disconcerting.
I'm 55 and never in my lifetime have I heard anything close to this.
And the fact that elected Republican officials in Washington who know better but are so intimidated and we got into this a little bit yesterday by Elon Musk being the most wealthy person in the world and is going around Washington according to Republicans.
and threatening people saying, I will use my vast wealth to take you out of elected office if you speak up against Trump.
Dangerous, dangerous times.
855-752-4842, Jim listing in Brookfield on WAUK.
Jim, you want to talk about Ukraine, what say
you?
I say, what do I ask?
What do Benjamin Netanyahu and Putin have in common?
And the answer is, international committees have recognized both of those individuals
as committing war crimes or war criminals.
And here, the president of the United States, that office is closing up to both of them, literally with Netanyahu sitting by the fireplace and smiling and laughing and saying, oh, we're going to turn God's or God's into the next Riviera.
And mirroring the talking points of Putin, XKGB agent, as you just said, I think it's unconscionable.
And the rest of the non-dictatorship world, the democracy-free world, will look at us from this day on, totally different.
And our standing has taken a huge hit.
And it'll take decades, I believe, to recover to once we had.
You mentioned, Todd, it's a disservice to the greatest generation.
Definitely, but also what about all the Ukrainian soldiers that have given their lives or wounded or whatnot?
And now they're going to get thrown on the bus and not even get a seat at the table negotiating in Saudi Arabia of all places in Saudi Arabia with the Russians with our new secretary of state who looks like a deer in the headlights.
Little Marco is Trump used to call them.
So we are definitely in dark times.
I'm sorry.
Appreciate it, Jim.
Thank you so much.
I agree with most what you said there, especially on Putin.
You know, I think there is a difference between Netanyahu and the Israeli people, but that's a discussion for another day.
Even Joe Biden said he did not agree with that war crimes assessment on Netanyahu, necessarily.
But that's another bottle of wine or a cup of coffee.
Welcome back with Jack and Merrimack on the phone lines.
And also, what's worse is the all balls show for a Wednesday on the Civic Media Radio Network.
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Zomers on the board.
Glad to have you along with us here on a Wednesday.
Want to finish up this subject on Ukraine.
Donald Trump spreading lies cozy enough to a war criminal and Vladimir Putin saying that now Trump's saying that it was Ukraine's fault.
What's that what's that Scooby-Doo sound?
I mean, I mean what I mean complete not not even based in some sort of truth a complete lie Ukraine was the is the victim here it was Putin who unprovoked attacked Ukraine and now Trump spreading misinformation
and trying to quote, unquote, negotiate a settlement without having Zelensky, the Ukrainian president, involved.
A couple of quick updates here.
Number one, breaking across the wires about five minutes ago, Trump's former vice president, Mike Pence, just called Trump out for his pro-Putin propaganda, saying, quote, Mr. President,
Ukraine did not start this war.
Russia launched an unprovoked and brutal invasion, claiming hundreds of thousands of lives.
The road to peace must be built on truth."
That's Mike Pence.
Look, I give the guy credit for speaking out on that.
Also, a quick note here on the, let's go back to the text line, Mr. Zombers, if it could, please.
This is Mark Imperto Sack saying, quote, I can't thank my public school teachers and parents enough for teaching me critical thinking skills.
My parents had tons of history books around, and I still remember hearing about the Holocaust in fifth and sixth grade, and the history lectures in 11th grade of Mr. Tomzak.
at Superior Senior High School, unquote.
Thank you, Mark, appreciate that.
Also, we have, oh, Jim in Brookfield, check it in, saying hi.
I'll be in Hayward both tomorrow and Friday afternoon.
Will it be a time to be on the lookout for you and possibly say hi quick?
Yes, absolutely, Jim.
You and anybody else can stop in.
We're gonna be just off of Main Street there at our WBZH station.
about a half a block off of Main Street.
I'm my truck out there.
We're going to try to do the show outside tomorrow if we can, right outside the studios, and then be inside the studios.
But we have a window that looks right onto the road there in downtown Hayward.
So stop by either tomorrow or Friday, Jim.
or anybody else wants to stop by and say hi.
We're going to have a couple of giveaway items as well.
I think some bandanas, some civic media bandanas and whatnot.
So stop by.
It'll be a good time had by all.
Let's go to the phone lines, 855-752-4842.
Jack in Merrimack.
Jack, thanks for holding, my friend.
What say you?
This is pretty typical of an authoritarian regime, any place in the world.
Let's rewrite history to favor ourselves and our allies.
And very clearly, Putin is one of Trump's allies.
I mean, people ignored this fact.
When it happened, they ignored it all the way through Trump's first term, and they ignored it when they voted for him.
Now, the first time around,
Comey's report and and other information that I'd also read and I can't give you the direct references because it's a while back, but Comey's report basically said Russia is used their media influences to support Trump You're getting into the presidency and I mean that's that's pretty clear
Um,
and he invited it by the way remember that he said, you know, Russia, if you're listening to the go after Hillary for me, which they did.
But anyway, you know, he literally, literally, Russia did what Trump asked in the 2016 election.
But go ahead.
Yep.
That's, that's part of it.
Um, uh, I think there's, there's, uh, something else that we have to worry about.
And it's, it's the, um,
uh... in in the american administration now you've got uh... musk who is going after and trying to get and going to court to get access to everybody's banking and social security information now think about that for just a minute this is a country that is pretty much controlled by money if he's got that information he's going to have the ability
um damage people's finances severely if they don't agree with everything that trump is doing and you know people that are our high profile they're going to be first on the list people uh news organizations that are high profile they're going to be on the list it's just going to go on and on i first thought when when when musk wanted those numbers i thought
Yeah, I think it's both.
But it's a serious problem.
Yeah,
I mean, 100% anybody that opens their mouth.
I was in Russia early on during Putin's administration and people there were scared then about talking about negative things about the government.
I had a cage former KGB guy that asked me to sponsor him to become a US citizen because he wanted to get the heck out of that country.
Wow.
That's how bad it
Wow
And that's what we're looking at in this country, if we give those guys control over our financial information.
I appreciate the call, Jack.
Thanks so much, Jack and Merrimack.
Great point.
He's right about taking over the media as well.
We've talked a little bit about that on other shows.
But I want to get one more call in if we can quick.
Let's go to Ollie up the Northwoods.
Ollie, I'm going to be in Hayward tomorrow.
Are you anywhere close to Hayward?
uh... pretty cool yeah
all right well come on over to the high it
won't get a chance to won't get a chance to see you but you really would have loved to uh... i just want to say that two things i agree with the last caller uh... about the information that i remember uh... uh... you're so go my sister saying that trump had tried to get every the
what each person in the United States how they voted.
Hey, Ollie.
Hey, keep that thought.
Don't go anywhere.
I'm going to put you on hold.
I don't want to lose.
I want to make sure we pick this up.
I'm up against the clock.
Have a quick local news and weather update.
We'll come back, finish up with Ollie, and do what's worse next.
Stay with us.
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Join us tomorrow.
We'll be live from downtown Hayward, Wisconsin and our studio's WBZH Buzz of the North for the 51st annual American Birkabiner Big Birky Ski Race tomorrow.
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I will be there.
Gonna attempt to do the show from outside the studio to give you a flavor, a feel, a sense of what's going on up there.
Looking forward to that local guests as well.
And then Friday doing the show up there as well.
Friday's show, some of our regulars, Brady Ewing, gonna be here talking about, by the way, Badger Sports, basketball team, another big win last night, 20 point win over Illinois here at the Coles Center.
The Badgers are on a roll under Greg Gard, John Tanji.
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Congratulations to the Badgers for a big win.
Talk to Brady about that and other things.
Also, Peter Rapine on the show as well with a week of a humorous look at the Week in Review.
So a big couple of shows next two days up in beautiful Hayward.
We are going to get to what's worse.
Don't worry in a minute, but I don't want to cut off this discussion.
Some great discussion, some great conversation here over what's happening with Ukraine.
I think Trig Vy Olsen.
Our friend from the Lincoln Project put it the best, right?
Imagine if your neighbor, when they were out watering their lawn or you guys were out cooking in the back deck together at the same time, kept looking over and saying, you know that backyard of yours belongs to me.
I might just file a lawsuit and take it.
Your backyard belongs to me.
What if your neighbor told you that all the time?
It would be disconcerting at the least and really tick you off at the most and then imagine if the guy if you woke up one day and or you went away like for a weekend you came back and the guy put up a fence and Fenced you out of your own backyard That's the context was happening in Ukraine Putin just took it without provocation
He's a former KGB official and a convicted war criminal.
And now the President of the United States, Donald Trump, says it was Ukraine's fault for starting this conflict, a complete lie.
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Olly, let's go back to the North Woods.
We'll be up there tomorrow.
Olly, thanks for holding through the break.
We were up against the clock.
I have no control over the clock.
So go ahead, start again.
You want to make a couple of points about Ukraine.
Yes.
Well, like I said, I was agreeing with Jack about the fact that Elon's thing,
can be very much more nefarious than imaginable, more than just getting people's bank account numbers, but about knowing who does what and who agrees with Trump and who doesn't.
I think that's very important.
But as far as you cringles, I can't believe that
We can't discount the fact that it's Trump, but it's hard to believe that President of the United States would get up there and do that Save that completely total lies that When everyone knows that Russia invaded Ukraine and then for him to say that to lie to people
like nobody is going to know just Makes the US look terrible and I can't help but wonder when he talks about the Russia wanting for part of their peace agreement is that there would be elections in Ukraine well, they tried that Ukraine had elections and
um in some of the areas that russia overtook already and people there were videos of people being forced to put ballots in boxes by gunpoint right from russian troops holding them at gunpoint while they voted is that what we want here in the united states is that what we want for the world people
to be forced by gunpoint to vote one way or another.
And I just can't help but wonder how strong the Russian Kool-Aid is that it only took a matter of a day or two of Trump drinking their Kool-Aid to come back with such nonsense.
You make great points, Ollie, and I think when you live up there in Northwood, God's country up there, just beautiful, a place on earth, and also just common sense people, right?
And I think it makes a great point, Ollie, that if you're sitting at a local bar in Northern Wisconsin and you just say, does that make sense, most people, regardless of who they voted for, would say, well, no, this whole, it just doesn't make sense.
Most people clearly understand that Russia attacked Ukraine.
And to Ali's point, the office of the president of the United States making all of us as Americans and America look like fools and now unreliable allies around the world is enormously destabilizing.
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Let's go back quickly to LA Tom.
LA, you want to take a second kick at the cat?
What do you got for us?
Yes, Todd, I just want to ask you, you know, we can look at history and we can look at what's happened in the past.
Now, granted, the Republicans can really say if they want to, they own the lives, they beat us, all of that kind of stuff, but do they really want to go through all of this pain?
I mean, do you think we're going to get to a point where we can stop this bleeding?
Or do you think we're going to probably have to go through all of the pain that we have in the past?
At this time, it'll be, you know, so Nazi Germany will be the United States of America with no FDR in sight.
I mean, what do you think?
I mean, I'm like,
I appreciate the question.
I don't know that I'm qualified other than like everybody else.
I have an opinion.
And what am I?
high school football coaches, Ken Lewis, I'll clean it up for radio.
You know, said opinions are like, you know, buttholes.
Everybody has one and they all stink.
So I mean, I can give you an opinion.
But, you know, based on people like Trig V. Olson, other people that I know, they're smarter than me.
And having been in politics for a while, having been part of the old Republican party for almost 30 years and left in 2011.
I don't see any profiles encouraged right now.
I don't see a John McCain in the Republican party, the current iteration of it in MAGA.
I think they're intimidated.
I think they're too afraid not to be US Senator or US Congressman.
They're intimidated by Elon Musk's wealth and being primaried and taken out.
And so I'm not prepared to say this is, you know, the equivalent to Nazi Germany, but I do think that it's going to get worse before it gets better.
I think that it's going to take, we just heard about this, that the United States Department of Agriculture offices in Wisconsin are laying off people and that farmers and landowners are not going to get their payments for things like conservation reserve program and forest management in some cases.
That Elon Musk is just canceling those contracts and he can.
And I think it's going to take people feeling real pain.
And I don't wish that on anyone.
Let me make that clear.
But I think people are going to have to feel real pain in their own lives before the chickens come home to roost.
I just pray that it's not too late when that happens.
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Let's go quickly to Dick in Madison on WMDX.
Dick, what say you?
Well,
That was one of the most surreal moments in my whole life.
I gotta tell you This guy threw away 80 years of this country yesterday threw it right in the trash every president since Harry Truman forward and I mean this morning I saw Truman speaking about NATO then through the year and then you thought they moved on to every president and Holly You know
administered towards Russia, the former Soviet Union, whatever you want to call it.
And then this, this is just, this is, if this isn't a wake up call to this country, I don't know what it is.
And as far as the Republican party, it no longer exists in my mind.
What it is now is that called the hard mega.
The rest of it is as dead as the wig party.
It's gone.
Agreed.
Agreed.
because nobody's standing up to defend that party.
They're just not.
No.
So,
I
appreciate the call, Dick.
Thank you so much.
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Let's go out to the drift list, the beautiful Southwest Wisconsin WRCE in Richland Center, where we find Whistler.
Whistler, thanks for listening.
We'll see you.
Hey, Todd, how's it going?
Well, we're hanging in there.
Thanks.
I'm a proud supporter of Ukraine.
And what Trump's doing is just it makes you go one gold ballistics, but I don't have any guns.
So we don't
want to do that.
But yeah, I get I get this sentiment.
Yeah, no.
Hey, yeah, there's no way that he's going to settle in with Putin and leave Ukraine out of it.
That's just not possible.
Same thing in the Middle East.
You know, same thing in the Middle East.
Yeah.
But
You know, this guy's driving is crazy.
Yeah, totally agree.
Thank you so much, Wissler.
Appreciate it.
Stay safe.
Stay warm out there in the beautiful driftless area.
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Let's go to Brian listening in Milwaukee via WAUK.
Brian, thanks for listening.
What's say you?
Hey, yeah, what really gets me is I've been posting.
you know, a lot of what Trump's been doing lately, as a comparison to other dictators in the past, especially what happened in 1939.
And what gets me is people that I went to high school with that are defending and, you know, making, you know, laughing emojis and just thinking that this is just some big joke.
It's like, one of you guys going to open up your eyes and see what is going on.
This is not a joke.
People are scared for their lives in this country.
I mean the whole world is just mocking us and I'm and I was really pleased when you said that fence finally said no,
yeah
Ukraine did not start this war Right, you know, I just told my parents what you guys said on here and my parents kind of like roll their eyes like oh another day in paradise.
It's like mm-hmm.
Yeah
And
well,
I don't agree with Mike Pence a lot, but I admire him and appreciate him standing up and telling the truth.
I mean, at least he's the only major Republican I've seen so far to do that in the last 24 hours.
I just, I baffled by it, but I appreciate it.
Thank you so much, Brian.
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Tom, listening on WMDX here in Madison.
Tom, thanks for listening.
What's that
you?
Everything is just getting more and more absurd every day we go on with this Trump administration.
What I did today is I always like to call the only two Wisconsin congressmen who voted to overturn an election for Donald Trump, Tom Tiffany and Scott Fitzgerald.
And I just asked them this morning, whatever staffer picked up the phone, I said, so tell me, who started the Ukraine-Russian conflict?
And of course, they don't want to, they don't want to say anything.
And they say, well, you know, we have to, we have to confirm that you're actually a constituent.
And I said, well, I'm an American and I'm, I live in Wisconsin.
And so finally, the one staffer at Fitzgerald's office said, I'm not going to let you bait me into giving an answer.
Wow.
Wow.
Yeah.
Wow.
And I just recommend, I think we should all call our Republicans.
Um, senators, state senators, representatives, congressmen and just ask them who started the conflict.
Right.
That's pretty good.
I'm into the absurd these days.
I
appreciate it, Tom.
Thank you so very much.
I'll just go try to go quickly.
Matt in Menominee Falls.
Matt, you have one minute.
It's all yours.
Go ahead,
Matt.
Hi, I'm just calling.
Um, why can't we do something about this with our military in terms of Ukraine?
Ukraine and Trump and the Republican Party well all that I mean the military
is late right the military serves a good question I appreciate the call Matt the Trump serves are the military serves the pleasure of the commander-in-chief who happens to be Donald Trump
So, I mean, you know, the U.S.
has sent a lot of military aid to Ukraine under Joe Biden prior, but, you know, that gets into a whole another kettle of fish, as they say.
Where'd it come back?
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What's worse, leaving the lights on or leaving dishes in the sink.
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Chris listing in Jamesville, VW MDX.
Chris, what's worse, leaving the lights on or leaving dishes in the sink?
Once again, here I am with my day off listing to you guys.
26 years of being married.
She leaves dishes in the sink.
I leave the lights on.
I don't know what's worse.
It's
a washout.
I'm pretty sure you guys have been in my house.
That's why this came up.
We have not, but thank you for the call.
But that's great.
All right, so you're gonna say the lights, leaving the lights on is worse.
Yes, sir.
All right, sounds good.
Thank you, Chris.
855-752-4842.
Cindy calling in from Appleton, Wisconsin.
Cindy, what's worse, leaving the lights on or leaving dishes in the sink?
Well, since it's me, myself, and I that are roommates, I drive myself crazy when I leave dishes in the sink.
I just can't stand that.
You and me both said, I live alone too, and you're right.
Sometimes, I have a dishwasher, but I don't unload the dishwasher, and then I let a day or two go by, and I've got a dirty dish, and I'm like, oh geez, Todd, what are you doing?
I'm on board, you said the 100%.
Thank you.
You
don't think I'm crazy?
No, no, not at all.
I've done the same thing.
I appreciate it.
Thank you, Cindy.
What's worse, leaving dishes in the sink or leaving the lights on?
855-752-4842.
Greg, listening in Genesee Depot, says leaving the lights on.
leave the dishes out, they don't cost money.
Well that, there you go, right?
Scott listening on our great station up in Green Bay, WGBW says, leaving the lights on is worse.
Trump has not lowered my utility bill yet.
All right, Cindy listening on WXCO, Bull Falls Radio in Warsaw says, I always make sure the dishes are done at the end of the day as I only can hand wash.
I do not have a dishwasher besides myself.
All right, very good.
I would have to say when my boyfriend leaves the lights on because he forgets to turn them off.
Well, there again, right?
The energy bill goes up.
Megan in some prairie listening on WMDX says, leaving the lights on is worse.
I always find the basement lights on when I don't expect to.
There's almost always dishes in the sink anyway, right?
I could get annoying.
Conrad listening in Green Bay on WAUK says, leaving the lights on.
Because I can't have a higher bill than I want.
All right, very good.
Appreciate that Conrad.
Is that our Conrad from Nightlight?
You're fantastic, Conrad.
Tune in tonight.
You're gonna hear Conrad and Pete Schwabba on Nightlight at six o'clock.
John and Oshkosh listening on WISS, the lights for sure.
My two kids think electricity is free.
Oh my God, it turned into an old Krabby guy.
That was great.
Our ongoing contributor and friend, Jeff Perry, says what's worse, dishes in the sink.
But thankfully, I can't say that my computer is goofy, Zomers.
But thankfully,
kids
them.
Well see right there Perry has the advantage that if you got kids you just tell the kids to do it Todd has no kids.
I don't I don't even have a cat I can't even have the cat lick the dishes clean.
Exactly Zomers, what's worse leaving the lights on or leaving the dishes in the sink?
Dishes for sure or if you're leaving dishes in the sink with like chili it or something in them If you're being nasty dishes are worse Otherwise, I think the lights are worse because I mean sometimes the dishes are gonna pile up anyway like let's say you have a bunch of friends over for dinner Where are you gonna put them?
Yeah, you know the dishes got to go somewhere before you can clean them
L.A.
Tom checking in on YouTube because watch this there's a dishes in the sink is temporary leaving the lights on is a higher bill I appreciate L.A.
I would have say dishes in the sink is worse.
I know that's not
responsibility because I just think okay fine I'll play a couple of bucks in the light bill but the dishes could just get grimy and nasty
gotta clean it up.
I think dishes are the sinker wars.
is.
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