Today is a national holiday: Pat Kreitlow’s birthday! Civic Media News Director Terry Bell joins us to celebrate. After that, Todd and Pat reflect on some news from the MAGA movement. Kevin Roberts, President of the Heritage Foundation, is now openly calling for violence. When reacting to the Supreme Court’s presidential immunity decision, he claimed that “we are in the process of the second American revolution, which will remain bloodless… if the left allows it to be.” 

At the bottom of the hour, Todd addresses one of the elephants in the room. He and Trygve Olson often sing the praises of former Republican Governor Tommy Thompson, characterizing him as a cheerleader for Wisconsin. While he did fill that role, unfortunately, he has now chosen the side of Trump and Trumpism. Todd reflects on what it is that causes people to take this reprehensible stance. 

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