Gated Communities

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Gated Communities

The Truth with Sherwin Hughes · Thu Oct 15, 2026

Sherwin Hughes

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Sherwin Hughes

October 15th, 2026.

The days are all running together.

Let me tell you why the days are all running together because I'm very excited when I get excited.

I kind of lose track of time.

Oh, the Brewers are going to the World Series.

You make no mistake about that.

One went away.

From going back to glory the last time they were there in 1982.

I was just a wee tot.

And I think the city needs this.

We need the.

Injection of optimism to where we're all rooting hopefully for the same thing Every so often it's real good for a city to have a common collective purpose and if it sports so be it so shout out to the Brewers for Getting a win on the road against the LA Dodders.

I'm thinking sweep quite honestly just like they swept us the Dodders swept us

Last season we might be returning the favor and that concludes the sports broadcast portion of my program I got other things I want to share with you.

Also, let me shout out Homer and Bailey I Joined them on their program this morning for probably longer than I should have but it's always good to chat with them See if they just ask me nicely I will come down and spend a little time with them, but I want them and everyone else to understand

that during their program is my preparation time for this program and there's a lot of information I need to collect and gather and read and digest and dissect so I can keep this jet engine fueled up for three hours because I can't reach a cruising altitude with this program let's say at hour one or hour two and then run out of gas because then we're gonna have to make an unexpected landing and we don't want to do that.

So I do make a little bit of a sacrifice.

What does Homer do to this microphone?

The microphone needs Viagra.

We did talk about when I was with Homer and Bailey, police interactions, and we're such hypocrites in this community.

I'm gonna give you some crime information today where overall it appears the crime is down in the city, but I don't...

I don't put a lot of weight in those statistics because if somebody feels unsafe, the math doesn't matter.

If I say, oh, homicides are down 22% from this time last year, but you just experienced someone in your family or a friend who was killed, there was a victim of homicide, then the statistics don't matter.

It's about people's overall personal, subjective feeling of safety because if you feel safe,

and the understanding of the city, the perception of Milwaukee is safe, then people will come here and they'll spend time here, they'll go to restaurants here, they'll spend more money here, but I don't know if the overall perception of the city of Milwaukee is a safe place.

And when crime might be going down, but if people don't feel safe, here's what happens.

People that don't feel safe decide that they want to get guns.

That is a complicated subject matter.

I know a lot of people want to oversimplify things because that's what folks like to do Oh, I don't feel safe.

I'm gonna get a gun Statistically, you're not gonna use it on some criminal breaking into your house.

I Know we watch a lot of movies And you know, we see these things play out on television like oh person broke into the house and hero homeowner shot him that doesn't happen now if you want to pay attention to statistics statistically you are much more likely to

Shoot your spouse much more likely for a child to find that firearm and you are much more likely to die by suicide if you have a gun in your house and also Concealed carry does not make this world safer.

I'm gonna give you just a real quick example on this and I hope you agree We sometimes have police that don't know when they should be Discharging their service with and maybe they should be de-escalating maybe they should intervene in a different way

And every so often, thank God it's not every single moment of every single day, a police officer pulls that trigger when they probably shouldn't have.

And these are folks that we believe are trained in a variety of different scenarios and they go through tactical training and they go through all these different situations where they should and should not discharge their firearm.

Do you think that a regular average citizen who only gets concealed carry training, which isn't very detailed?

On the variety of situations you may find yourself in, and most people that have guns, if you don't go to the range regularly, you're probably going to be a bad shot.

I know having a gun makes you feel safe in a city where the perception of crime is very high, even though the numbers and the statistics are telling us that crime is going down.

If people don't feel safe, people are going to get guns, and the more guns that we have in our society does not make anything better.

Because people won't know when to shoot don't know who to shoot at and if they miss if you fire at somebody and you miss and you injure somebody else You got a whole host of legal troubles that are going to follow you for the rest of your life And then at that moment you realize I probably shouldn't have gotten a gun in the first place Crime has gone down overall in the city, but there's a very unusual caveat.

There's an asterisk Next to these crime statistics and that is what I want to discuss today also

Today is the day we found out that that youth detention facility out there on 76 and Good Hope, you know, the one that used to be a vehicle emissions testing station, you know, the one that cost 80 million dollars to build, you know, that youth detention center that is in the community in the neighborhood, the far northwest side of the city.

I call that area the land that time forgot because when Northridge mall closed almost a quarter century ago.

It took almost that entire neighborhood, that whole ninth Aldermanic district with it.

Not much has moved in.

Hell, even the Walmart moved out of that area when you lose a Walmart.

And that was that Walmart closed back before we had this current rash of closing of grocery stores and retail stores, etc.

Even that Walmart was like, we can't be over here anymore.

If you lose a Walmart, that's now it just moved a little bit further east To brown deer, but the point is still made if development consists of government buildings and prisons and detention centers That's not the kind of economic development that we want even though the government buildings and prisons and jails and detention centers Yes, that is economic development.

Yes, there's

people that are hired to do the construction.

And yes, absolutely.

There are people that are going to work in that facility.

There's going to be doctors and nurses and correction officers and all of the people.

Problem though, it's a net negative for us because all of those people and all of those jobs and that $80 million detention center, they are all being funded by tax dollars.

So revenue.

Isn't being generated plus the incarceration of a youth is exceptionally expensive.

I believe it's somewhere between 90 and 100 thousand dollars per year So that is a net negative on our tax income speaking of tax income.

I got to make mention of this I Did hear Superintendent of the Milwaukee public schools Brenda Cassellius you join my colleagues

Homer and Bailey and she said something that was exceptionally political and I don't want People to miss the political statement that she made so first she made a pitch to voting She wants everybody to vote because I think the superintendent knows Where she was that she knows this radio station a majority Democratic listening base now we got some Republicans out there, but the majority of the people that soon into us are probably Democrats of her first

thing that she said in this regard.

She's a political lady because her job is politics because there is a board that appoints her.

The MPS school board directs her.

She actually works for them.

They approve and sign her contract.

They authorize her salaries.

They essentially structure the curriculum that is going to be implemented and she is the executive that executes said curriculum.

Obviously, the superintendent is political.

Here's what's crazy.

At the same time we're building a youth detention facility, we had the superintendent of NPS on because the two are pipelines to each other.

So I find these things very interesting and ironic.

And so she encouraged people to vote, which of course, whenever you are talking to the black community, you always got to tell us to vote because for some reason we don't like to do it.

We got to be reminded.

I believe she is hoping that there is a democratic governor and a democratic legislature.

But here's what the superintendent said.

There was overly political and she essentially told us if you were listening carefully enough, a referendum is coming.

She already knows it's coming.

I think it's going to be $330 million.

They probably already have the language sketched out because they want to renovate some of these buildings because the buildings are old, which she also said in her interview.

For every $100,000 of assessed value of your house Your property taxes are going to go up with this next referendum is going to go up an additional $120 per $100,000 of assessed value So if your house is assessed at $300,000 you are going to pay an additional

an additional three hundred and sixty dollars per year on top of the like two hundred and sixty or two hundred seventy dollars you are paying in additional because of the previous referendum it just keeps stacking up but the superintendent told everyone to vote which means she is hoping that we get a democratic wisconsin state senate and a democratic control wisconsin state assembly both of which are real possibilities

but also a Democratic governor in which she then said the state has $4 billion in surplus, which it does.

I think it's a little bit less than that now.

And inflation has probably eaten some of that money up.

The superintendent basically said the legislature needs to do its job and take some of that $4 billion surplus and invest it in education.

That is not going to happen.

In fact, MPS probably needs all $4 billion of those dollars.

And that is money for all 72 counties and all 1851 municipalities in the state of Wisconsin.

And to think that MPS is going to even get a piece of that money is ridiculous and outrageous.

But here's another thing that I'm seeing people are doing.

David Crowley is going to be set up for failure because the black Democrat that gets elected to governor and it's looking very good for him.

Now, of course, anything can happen.

But it's looking good.

It's also looking good that the Democrats are going to get control of the legislature.

And they're going to immediately say, David, you need a fully fund public education.

You need to take some of that money, that surplus money.

You need to give it to MPS.

Or if you don't, David, David, if you don't, if you don't give us the surplus money, not only are we going to increase taxes, we're going to do it in your name because see David Crowley, all the education people and the teachers and the teachers union people who are very political.

They said, David, if you don't give us some of that money for MPS,

We're going to put a referendum on your people.

So what's going to end up happening is David gets elected.

He's probably going to say screw you.

We've got a whole bunch of other priorities in this state.

I can't just give the $4 billion surplus just to education.

And they're going to say David Crowley as governor in his first term, major property taxes go up.

I'm going to take a break.

Come back.

Should Milwaukee have gated communities and before you jump to a damn conclusion I want you to actually give it some thought and that's our YouTube poll question of the day You guys have it been to a city that has a gated community.

It's actually kind of nice.

It is.

I'm serious not inconvenient They're checking everybody that comes in door Dasher uber eats pizza delivery your mom and your cousins and then when they want to come and visit you They got to check in at the gate, but you know who is coming in

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They may go to Extraordinary measures so that they can get a good night's sleep You might put a security system in your home and that's recommended.

Anyway, it's just a good rule of thumb and also it will qualify you for a discount in your homeowners and or renters insurance So it's just a good rule of thumb to get a security system.

But if you hear about

A number of break-ins, maybe on your block, maybe in the general vicinity, maybe in the neighborhood, that could impact your subjective feeling of safety and you might want to be proactive and go and get you an ADT system where a very unusual person will come to your house and install the security system.

But it'll make you feel safer or some people just take the shortcut I'm gonna get a gun don't know how to use it Don't know how to load it don't know how to disassemble it don't know how to clean and oil it But they're gonna have a gun because just having that firearm makes them feel safer.

So there are things that we can do Maybe there's a policy solution, but I think we've tried a lot of policy solutions

Maybe there are some community solutions.

Hell, maybe there are development solutions because we want people to feel safer because if they don't feel safe, they're going to do things to make themselves, however arbitrary, feel safe.

There's another thing that I notice.

So our interactions with the police.

are very interesting because depending upon the day and whatever the topic may be, some of you want more police.

You see a lot of reckless driving.

You hear about crime.

You saw crime being committed.

Maybe some of you even called the police and you got very slow service.

We will want more police.

If something happened, we want more police.

That's usually a default setting.

People will even call over her this over the years Oh, sure when I'll go an entire day and I won't see any police anywhere at all.

I don't see any patrolling I don't see any cops walking around I don't see police officers on motorcycles or bicycles side notes on Bicycle cops.

Why do they wear Daisy Dukes?

They were the shortest little shorts

Why is it that police officers that are on bikes shave their legs?

I don't know why they do it is a department policy You know damn well them legs be so smooth and they'd be all lotioned up lotioned up cop legs How can you take that police officer seriously and I listen you're supposed to take the police seriously, but if there is a cop wearing some Daisy Duke shorts on a bicycle Because he obviously doesn't have a siren How do you get pulled over by a bike cop?

Slow down hold on and they're pedaling like real fast, but they're not going very fast But their legs are moving like really fast you ever seen them before on a bicycle cop.

I would just outrun.

I'm going seven miles an hour Pull over Sherwin, please my legs are getting very tired

My legs are also very shiny and glistening and shaved, and I never see women bicycle cops.

Have you ever seen a woman bicycle cop?

I'm just going off of what I see, ladies and gentlemen.

Jeez, relax.

So we'll want more police.

Because we want to feel safe, and maybe if we have more police, even though we are mandated by law to have at least, if I'm not mistaken, 1,650 police officers in the city of Milwaukee on active duty.

by a certain date.

And if we do not reach that threshold of 1,650 police officers active and on duty in the city of Milwaukee, we will lose a portion of our shared revenue.

Now, that ordinance, that law very well could get amended if, in fact, we get a Democratic governor and a Democratic legislature, because it's very difficult to meet that number.

Because at the end of the day, we may want more police.

We may want.

More subjective feeling of safety, but let's be clear.

Nobody wants to be a cop If you talk to a young person and you ask them what they want to do because back in the day you ask a young person Oh, I want to be a doctor or a lawyer or a cop or a firefighter.

No, I don't know what they want to be I think they want to be Steve the stoners and Do dances in public?

They look semi gay Not hold on relax not entirely gay, but just like 42%

Don't know what young people want to do, but they don't want to be cause they don't want to be teachers and these are foundational vocations that we need to create a society that is much more economically prosperous and safer I Said all that to say this I Did watch the I think it was cell phone footage.

I have not seen the body camera footage of It's a Milwaukee man That was handcuffed

thrown to the ground by three Milwaukee police officers and then punched repeatedly when it did appear that this individual was subdued and maybe that bleeds over into excessive force.

I know based upon what I saw and it's only 35 seconds.

It's not the entire incident.

It looks pretty bad.

But please know something.

That if we get the police that we want more police and if we meet that threshold set by the Republican legislature of 1,650 police officers, which is probably 200 more than we have right now You're gonna see incidents like this and I'm not putting blame on anybody because I don't know the details of it.

I can just comment on that video But this hypochondrasis

That African Americans have African American men in particular When we see situations like a cop using excessive force We believe that that happens every day all the time and it's going to happen to us Even when it does not happen every day all of the time and does not happen to us.

Let me clarify

Whenever there's an officer involved shooting where we believe it was not Justified it doesn't matter where it happens it can happen in a city and in a state that you have never been to in your entire life But when black people black men in particular

see an officer involved shooting that on initial inspection doesn't appear to be justified.

Oh my God, we think that it's going to happen to us next.

The next time we get in our car, we're going to get pulled over by the police and the police are going to beat us up and the police are going to shoot us when we're totally innocent, even though it has never happened to us.

And I can't remember what the specific situation was, but it was some years ago.

Where there was an officer involved shooting and it wasn't even in Milwaukee was somewhere else But it did make national news and this was some years ago And people were calling into the radio show I was on WNOV at the time and they were complaining about how terrible the police officers are and all of the police officers are racist and they're you know the police started as slave patrols all that is true all that is true

And they were just so angry that these police officers are so incredibly racist and every time they interact with a black man, they shoot us and kill us.

They would really have you thinking that every time we get pulled over by a cop, we need to get our affairs in order and get out some life insurance because we gon' die at the hands of the police.

But then I asked the people that were calling and I said, it was mostly black men.

A couple black women called in.

Now that's a whole other story because black women call the police on us.

I think more than white folks do.

I want you to sit with that.

They'll call the cops on us don't have a brother be on probation or parole And he lives with his woman and she can use the criminal justice system to control her man She don't like her man out there in the streets and she'll tell him if you ain't home by 11 o'clock I'm calling your PO and guess what she does And now they're coming to arrest him.

Oh, we can have a whole weeks worth of conversations on that So somebody had called in and they were obviously very upset about this officer involved shooting that took place somewhere else

And I started to ask the people that were calling in what kind of interactions they had with the police.

Because they were very emphatic about how racist law enforcement is.

I said, well, brother, when was the last time you got pulled over by the police?

I got pulled over last week.

Well, what happened?

I got let go of the warning.

Huh.

Fair enough, somebody else called it.

Can't believe these police officers sure what all they doing is killing us black men.

We're innocent victims.

They just murdering us left and right.

OK, brother, I understand you're very.

Emotional over what you saw in that body camera footage of a black man getting harmed by the police in a far away state in a far away city.

Hey, brother, when was the last time you had an interaction with the police a couple months ago?

You want to tell us about it?

Yeah, and I will never forget this.

This brother said that he was drunk at seven o'clock in the morning and hit a school bus full of kids.

And it was a white cop that responded.

He said that cop let him go home.

The cop was like, oh, is your car drivable?

And the guy was like, yeah, it's dry.

But he's like, OK, get on out of here.

What I have found is that a large number of African-American men have like this hypochondrosis.

We think that if a black person somewhere, anywhere that we don't know.

in a city in a town that we've never heard of can't spell the name of it and can't find it on a map.

If a black person is harmed by the police in anywhere America, we think it's going to happen to us, even though it has never happened to us.

And it's unusual because the city of Milwaukee has that minimum 240, 250,000 black people.

And if it was really that bad, they would be offering like 10 of us a day.

But they aren't I think more often than not the police are just letting us go or they just don't even care so when I look at this incident of this handcuffed man being taken to the ground and punched by the police and I can't remember the last time there has been a similar situation we have to admit that these situations are in fact rare now they probably never should happen

But never is a very specific kind of term when we want more police and we do because people don't feel safe

these kinds of situations are going to become more common and we do hope that if a person was wrong that they can receive some semblance of justice but we got to stop psyching ourselves out and thinking that this kind of stuff happens every day because a bunch of y'all are driving around your one moving violation after another you're speeding your license plates aren't registered your windows are tinted too dark and you're driving around through the city smoking a blunt

And then when you get pulled over for any one of those things, of course, the cop is racist.

Stop it.

And you got to wear your seatbelt and you got to have proof of insurance.

So we can't have it both ways.

We can't want more cops and demand more cops.

And then when there are incidences that take place, when it appears that a cop is using excessive force, we can't then all of a sudden play the victims.

Because if I ask some of y'all.

What you would have done to some of these criminals in our community, especially reckless drivers, some of y'all, if given the power and the authority of the police would be more, would use more excessive force than the cops actually do.

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JD the poet says He has friends that are in the city of Milwaukee That live in gated communities I'm unfamiliar he says the River Place lofts and walkers point and The ones across from Presidio off of 55th Street, so like gated there's a gate

where there's only one way in and one way out and there's a person who is checking the identity of anyone entering.

So apartments and condos that's different.

I'm talking about like homes that have wrought iron gates where the neighborhood is encapsulated in that gate.

There's only one way in.

There's no walking paths into that community.

There's no biking paths.

I am unfamiliar.

I'm not saying that those places don't exist, but I know that there are cities.

So Memphis is a great example.

There's plenty of gated communities in Memphis.

Let's say there's a crime that gets committed somewhere in the city.

A big one, a bad one.

People get very angry.

We say the whole neighborhood is bad, and then people will get nostalgic and say, you know, 60 years ago, it wasn't this bad.

We didn't have these kinds of problems 60 years ago.

And then immediately it will turn on poor people and it will turn on people that are receiving section eight because they are the ones responsible for the crime.

And I'm not going to get into the details of that.

But if I talk about that long enough, talk about whatever incident of crime took place and people get angry and I take some of your telephone calls and we have a call right now.

I'm going to take in a second.

Ultimately people will say we want those people out of here.

We don't want them to live here.

We want to deport them somewhere We want to get rid of them.

We got around these people up I'm sure you guys have heard our many conversations about whatever crime took place and then immediately After me discussing what that crime was we got to say these bad people need to go they need to go back to Chicago We need to remove them from the city and I also express how difficult that is and also it's kind of like ethnic cleansing or not kind of like it is

And then you may wonder where this brand of fascism comes from that we're experiencing right now in this nation politically.

There are undesirable people that we blame our problems on and we want those people gone, not depending upon who you are and what the issue is.

You may think that immigrants are coming over here and taking your jobs and that's why you're under or unemployed.

And so you want those immigrants to go back to where they come from.

Same with African Americans if we believe that a certain element, maybe it's a poor element, maybe it's an element that gets sectioned and gets welfare benefits.

If we believe whether it's true or not, whether we believe it, that's all that matters.

If we think that these are the people that are destroying our neighborhoods and committing all this crime, we want those people eradicated and removed from our neighborhood.

Just like some Trumpers want illegal immigrants and Mexicans shipped across the border, there is very, very little difference.

And I try to explain to folks, well, you can't just do that.

You can't just say, hey, you look poor.

I don't like you.

You need to go somewhere else.

That's not really how that goes.

But maybe what we can do is gate a community, but I want to take it a step further.

I want to share with you guys some of the crime numbers how they're down in some areas of the city But they're but they're moving to other areas like Sherman Park is experiencing an unprecedented uptick in violent crime But the Harambe neighborhood the crime is going down and it's just a matter of where the crimes are committed It's rarely the people that live in those neighborhoods.

It's just when the crime occurs We mark the neighborhood.

It doesn't mean the whole neighborhood is bad.

It just means that this is where the homicide took place

Now we can't just pick people at random and remove them or you can't say poor people can't live here.

That's illegal unconstitutional and violates a whole bunch of stuff.

But what if we had gated communities?

But we took it a step further because I want people to feel safe.

Crime is down.

Statistically, but the subjective feeling of safety is also down.

So people are not feeling safer and we're not.

If we are not feeling safer, then more people are going to go and get guns and that compounds the problem.

What if we had a gated community where to live in this community, whether you owned or rented, we can do a little experiment.

We'll call it Sherwin Village.

To live in this community and it's going to be crime free.

You understand it?

Not a bike is gonna get stolen.

No homes are gonna get broken into there's not gonna be any armed robberies or strong armed robberies There's not gonna be any homicides.

There's not gonna be any kind of assault aggravated assault There's not gonna be any battery not entirely sure what battery is but it goes right along with assault Well, there's not gonna be either one of those in the Sherwin Village It's gonna be a gated community where if you want to live here.

We'll accept your section eight

Sure, come on in with your section eight, but you're gonna have to pass a background check No criminal record whatsoever and and and every person that you want to come and visit you in the Sherwin community Sherwin Village, they got to pass a background check too.

So guess what your cousin and no that's got an armed robbery conviction which in that

Unfortunate that he, you know, got in trouble, but he paid his debt to society.

Well, you still can't come into this community.

You can't even visit your baby mama if you got a criminal background.

Can we do that?

I think we can.

But first, let's talk to Linda.

You're on one on one seven.

The truth.

How are you?

Good morning.

Good morning.

It's a good day in Milwaukee, sir.

Yes, I thought that I should come in on this conversation because.

Yeah, you're you man.

So many great things are happening.

You're talking about two things.

One is investing in communities.

And yes, there are gated communities and Milwaukee.

One is on 91st.

10 years ago, I discovered that.

of that gated community is educators, principals, and all of that.

And I was like, oh, no, I don't want

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to go there.

91st and 91st and what?

Like an actual physical wrought iron gate?

Yes.

It's an

upper class gated community of home owners of principals and teachers.

91st

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and what?

Linda, I need to know where it is.

You can't just say

91st.

I don't know the exact sharing, but just keep going.

And it's just before.

brown deer.

But let me say this, there's a difference in the middle class upper-scale gated communities and the organized neighborhood communities, you know, neighborhood watch communities like Bridge Builders, like, you know, Amani and Sherman Fiends.

These are different.

These are working class communities that want to be gated.

if you want to use that word because we want to uh we are homeowners and we are investing in our you know landscape our communities and we are um what i should i say you can't regulate a person's heart you can't heal wounds you know but we can set a social and a societal standard for these people who do not love themselves in our

of behaving out of wounds and baby that goes not just for the least amongst us because Linda is learning baby a lot of these leaders a lot of these gatekeepers are behaving out of their wounds and suppressing uh people like myself that want to you know see progress in the black community and these people are holding us down hello black crab mentality but anyway

We're talking about communities.

This is the only way that Milwaukee can get back some black pride in our communities by taking ownership and investing in where we live and recognizing that we have to shun those people, those elements, those minutes to society that do not respect or love themselves.

We

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hold standard.

I know we have to, but how do we do that?

Do we kill them?

Do we ship them off to Mexico because we keep talking about the bad element and there's nothing we can do about them and you got to hurry up and say this because I gotta take a break.

Okay.

Here's what the bridge builders do with the seventh precinct and the Alderman.

We, you know, let them know.

We give them citations.

We let them know.

You are a problem in our community.

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Okay, and that works.

We give them a ticket that they're not going to pay.

All right, fair enough.

Yeah, once you start involving the law, once you start applying financial accountability, baby, yes, they do.

And this is why I called the the MPB and I told them that we need to start getting tough on team negligence and how they are doing because I think we should detain these teams, hold them.

And to the parent come and if the parents don't come tell somebody CPS because a lot of these parents out of town don't know what their child doing but know that their child is not Responsible, let's

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leave it there Linda because I got to take a break, but I appreciate your call Did you guys hear that detain the teens you got to just run them up just grab them because they're doing something I supposed to do I need you to understand that that is a mentality that really exists

in our community, but also keep in mind, what if you're the teen being detained?

What if you don't want to be detained?

What if you literally didn't do anything wrong?

And what if you're a teen of 18 or 19, you're actually an adult and a cop comes and detains you because that is what the community sentiment is.

And let's say that that person, that teen, that 18, that 19, that 17 that's being detained, doesn't want to be detained.

And then they don't want to be handcuffed.

They don't want to be taken down to the precinct.

And now they're resisting arrest.

And now somebody that cop punches that 18, that 19.

in the face all of a sudden oh my god the police are killing us so I want us to listen to how hypocritical we can be we want to get rid of them we want more law enforcement Linda said give them citations you honestly think they're giving a poor person a ticket is going to change their behavior giving a poor person a ticket is going to put a poor person further into debt because they're not going to pay it they're going to put food on the table they're going to pay the rent they're going to pay whatever expenses they're going to put gas in the car they're not paying that ticket we'll talk more about this on the other side the truth with Sherwin Hughes will be right back

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I cannot find any gated communities in Milwaukee.

And when I Google it, apartments and condos are all that the search results are returning.

That's not the same thing.

I'm not saying that there aren't any.

I just, I can't find any.

And when I asked Linda where the gated community was, she said, oh, 91st.

91st runs the complete length of the city of Milwaukee.

So where on 91st?

Or she said just before brown deer trying to pick.

I'm familiar with that area.

So somewhere between Vincent High School.

There is a little enclave back there, but I don't know if it's gated unless the gates are new.

But you can't just have a gated community.

I think we need to take it a step further.

Let me give you.

An example that makes sense.

Have you all ever checked.

The sex offender registry.

for the zip codes you live in or your neighborhood, you will be astonished.

Now, I thought that neighbors and residents had to be notified if a sex offender was moving into your, like you're supposed to get a letter or something or somebody knocks on your door and is like, Hey, just to let you know, pervert is moving in on Wednesday.

I thought that there was like a committee of people or something that I know around Halloween time.

at trick-or-treating time the sheriff's department goes and Like they make the sex offenders like leave their houses or something you guys from know you with this because they have it on the news known sex offenders because their name is on the list as a registry and neighbors and community members are supposed to get an Alerts or some kind of notification that a sex offender is moving into your neighborhood But there's also a website and so

Haven't checked the website in years because I just it's very disappointing Each sex offender is noted on a map with like a little purple dot.

Okay, and I looked at Just the north side of the city of Milwaukee.

There were so many purple dots The entire north side of the city of Milwaukee was literally one big purple dot They are on every block in every single street

Now, I was under the impression that the community had to be notified.

I know that I haven't been notified and there are some that live in the vicinity of my house, but I don't I'm not worried about it necessarily because I don't I'm too old for a sex offender and also.

I mean, I'll kick your ass if you try to get some of my sweet chocolate, right?

But there are children, though, that are in in our neighborhood.

And I wonder if those parents know.

That's our sex offenders on the block.

So there's legal precedent where you are supposed to and can identify offenders and tell the neighbors What if we took it a step further because right now?

Sex offenders are on a registry.

We know where they live.

We know all the details of these people We know the details of their crime when they were arrested all that if you click on one of these little purple dots It'll give you the person's picture all of the things, right?

But what if we did that for other offenses?

So sex offenders included.

But what if somebody had a drug trafficking case or a human trafficking case or burglary or armed robbery?

What if we knew what if the neighbors and the residents were made aware?

Hey, somebody who committed a homicide is moving into your neighborhood.

And what if the residents said.

We don't want them here because there used to be these huge town hall meetings.

If a sex offender was going to move into a neighborhood, usually Oak Creek or Franklin, there'd be a town hall meeting and the residents would rise up and say, no, you can't move into our community.

And then they would have to find somewhere else for that person to live.

And I think it's the state's responsibility to locate and relocate sex offenders.

But when the community is alerted, the community can say, no.

Because of the crime that you committed, we don't want you to live here and the state will find somewhere else for them to live.

And I feel like the state is dumping those sex offenders in the black community because again, nobody cares if black children get sexually assaulted or black women get raped, okay?

But what if we could do that?

What if you knew for an absolute fact that each and every one of your neighbors had a clean record?

no criminal background whatsoever.

Would that help improve your subjective feeling of safety to where you wouldn't need a firearm to protect yourself?

If we can list someone on the sex offender registry and we can look up their whole criminal background and read the details of their sexual offense, probably against a child, okay?

Why can't we do that?

with other crimes that people committed because isn't it the right of the people to feel Safe at home and in their neighborhood and in their community and if you think that the police are gonna be there all of the time and catch every single You know burglar or attempted armed robbery.

That's we can't rely on the police like that There's not enough of them even if we have the number of officers that we're supposed to have legally in a city of Milwaukee 1650 there's 570,000 people in this city

over almost 100 square miles.

1600 cops is not going to do it.

What if we could take more proactive measures?

And I'm using a precedent that has already been set because if someone's a sex offender, we know who they are, we know what their crime is, and people in a community can reject that person from living on that block in that particular house.

What if we could do that with people who committed other crimes?

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Yeah, we can't find any gated communities in the city of Milwaukee.

Somebody else in the YouTube chat said they looked and they couldn't find any either.

Condos and apartment buildings don't count.

I'm talking about homes, actual houses, single-family houses, and maybe duplexes where there's a physical wrought iron or some other physical barrier that prevents people from going into that community.

I mean one way in,

One way out.

There's no bike path in.

There's no walking path in.

There's one central entrance and exit, and there is a guard that only opens that gate for people that are on a list, people that are residents, or people that were otherwise pre-approved.

I am unfamiliar.

Now there's like little tucked away enclaves, but there's a public road where anybody and everybody can drive right in.

I'm talking about something that is manned.

I guess or woman 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

And if someone forces their way into that community, law enforcement will be called immediately.

I am unfamiliar with a place like that in the confines of the city of Milwaukee.

Suburbs may be different, but I'm talking about the city.

So if we don't have them, should we consider a gated community?

But let's take it a step further.

Because if someone is on the sex offender registry, the entire community is alerted, or at least it's noted somewhere on a website of that crime, that sexual offense that that person has committed.

What if we expanded it to other crimes?

Maybe you don't want somebody who's broken into houses before, who's a burglar, who's maybe you don't want somebody who has shot somebody.

Committed a homicide.

What if you don't want them in your neighborhood?

And this is another interesting thing that I see because you always have somebody saying oh sure

Give people a second chance.

Sherwin Hughes

No And it's always a woman and this is not to offend the women But they're always so quick to forgive if you have done something where you harmed your community

Your community should have any community should have every right to say, yeah, we know that you committed a crime a long time ago and sure you went to jail, but we don't want you here.

That's the only deterrent.

If somebody knows that if they commit this crime, it may prevent them from living where they want to live for the rest of their life.

Now, is that going to be a complete and total deterrent?

No.

But if if you're a kid growing up.

And you witness like your uncle and your aunt having these struggles because of crimes they committed where they can't get an apartment here They can't buy a house here.

They are excommunicated from this community here.

Maybe that has an impact on that child Forgiveness is for Jesus and women, you know, they say a woman always Forgives but doesn't forget.

I'm under no obligation to forgive anybody and if I do so Consider me a really nice person, but when it's an adult

Committing another offense against another adult.

We don't have to forgive you.

That's the other problem with black folks and not that I want to judge my people.

Dylan Roof walked into a black church and had Bible study with a group of black people for 45 minutes and then open fire in the first press conference you saw with somebody said, we forgive him.

What?

We're a conquered people.

We forgive every goddamn body.

We need to stop because where is it getting us now?

I'm not saying you're cold and harsh, but we need to have a hard line that does not get crossed if you commit an offense against anybody, especially your own people.

They don't have the obligation to forgive you.

Let Jesus do that.

We don't want you in the neighborhood because I've listened to y'all.

Over these years, hey Sherman, we don't want these people in the community.

We don't want these youth in the community.

They're causing all this trouble.

They're doing all the street takeovers.

They're causing all the crime.

We don't want these welfare people in all these section eight people.

Okay.

Well, then let's get rid of them.

Let's say they can't live in certain neighborhoods designated by the quote unquote good people.

Told y'all about when I saw Milisanda to grocery store She said sure when the good black people need to walk around with an X on their forehead So that people know that we're the good blacks and not the bad because they can't distinguish us I was like that's a little excessive, but I guess I see your point Whether we want to publicly admit it or not

We are fed up with these same black folks that everybody else is fed up with.

And I'm not going to speak to the white folks because white people need to be able to handle their own mess.

I'm not going to delve into their problems because I don't want their problems, nor do I want to give solutions to their problems because their problems are of their making.

This is their country.

I'm worried about us.

If neighbors have the legal right and authority to deny residency.

To a sex offender and they do Now there's a federal law involved in that so maybe we need Congress to act Shouldn't residents maybe on a limited basis Have the same ability to deny residency to people who have committed let's keep it limited to violent felonies Why should we welcome those people with open arms and here's the thing it's not even That they would commit the crime again

But we don't know that all we can do is look at their past and say you know what?

There are things in your past that indicate a tendency toward Criminal activity and a lot of times it's not just one armed robbery.

It's not just one non fatal shooting It's a whole rap sheet shouldn't residents who are tired of paying all this money and increasing taxes and paying all this money

for increasing police costs and public safety costs that are paying all this money to incarcerate these people.

Shouldn't folks be able to live in complete and total peace?

Here is where this idea of Sherwin Village might run a bit of foul of the law.

I have a feeling that such communities where you're doing this very strict background check where if you don't have

You can only apply to live in this community if your background is squeaky clean.

I'm talking juvenile and adult.

I got a feeling that black people might be kept out of those neighborhoods.

They might all of a sudden become lily white.

But then don't we always fantasize about segregation?

Black people always say, oh, when we integrated, this is what messed everything up.

OK, I'm going to hear you when you say that.

But maybe we need to segregate from other black folks.

Or do you just see every single black person as just a part of your family?

I don't Nor should I feel obligated to because I promise you this not all Latinos and Hispanics see each other as family in fact some of them hate each other You don't believe me find a local Mexican and call them Puerto Rican and stand back and watch those fireworks Why do we think I'm just being realistic here?

Because we always have these grand fantasies of black people coming together the reason why we can't come together Because there are some black people that are content on killing harming and stealing from other black people.

Why do you want to come together with them?

And I think her name is Sherita in the YouTube chat.

She says oh, yeah, it is Sherita That's messed up sure when everyone makes mistakes and they deserve a second chance

and not to be judged by their past.

Can I make this personal for a second, Sharita?

And I'm not picking on you specifically, but you're the one that made this comment.

This man punched you in your face repeatedly.

He didn't like your attitude.

He smacked you around a little bit.

He might have been drunk.

He might have been having a hard day.

Maybe he's going through something, but he's beating you up.

Don't forgive him.

Probably.

But that's on you.

There's another woman.

They get smacked around by a man.

She's not gonna forgive him.

She ain't giving him a second chance But I think we suffer from that affliction.

We let people harm us and the excuse is well, I know they love me or well They're my family.

I still gotta forgive them.

No, you don't We do too much forgiving and where is it getting us?

What do you think you getting into heaven?

By giving my suffering by forgiving somebody who is content on hurting you because when you continue to forgive somebody That's permission for them to do it again because guess what they gonna come to you crying They gonna say that they're sorry and you gonna forgive them and where does that get us?

It gives us and gets us black eyes and broken ribs We don't have to forgive people You got a criminal conviction on your background now, okay, you committed a crime you and I'm not trying to be

Overwhelmingly harsh on people but there needs to be a standard that is set somewhere because we just let any old thing happen Let people do any old thing you can harm your community dramatically and we'll just welcome you back.

In fact, here's what angers me There's less time and attention and effort paid to victims than to offenders and I say that because If you're an offender and you did God knows what they don't give you a skill in prison

You're gonna get your GED if you want it.

You're gonna get your high school equivalency diploma if you want it.

You can get associate's degrees if you want it.

You can get skilled in a trade in prison.

You can build a set of skills in prison.

You can have a job in prison and build a resume in prison.

And come out and then there will be companies that will be given tax credits because they hired you because you were in prison.

And we need to hire our offenders because, you know, we're so scared of them offending again.

We let offenders hold us hostage in our own community.

We do things for offenders that we don't do for victims.

The victims get nothing.

Maybe the victims have a restitution fund.

And that's why I was glad I had the Wisconsin Attorney General Josh Call in studio, because one of the things the state attorney general does is they monitor and maintain a victim restitution fund.

So sometimes if you're harmed by somebody and maybe they go to jail, maybe they don't, but maybe there is.

Some monetary damages that you are owed the state attorney general make sure that you are paid but more often than not these offenders are Indigent they don't have the money and so victims get nothing, but the offender gets a skill gets a diploma gets a job and the Company that hired the offender they get a break on their taxes and the victim got nothing that is fundamentally unfair

We're doing too much forgiving and here's the thing.

It's not making our community safer.

So this is just an idea that I came up with but It could be considered harsh.

I know the black folks are very quick to make up excuses For some of our worst behavior because it's gonna get to a point Where we can't blame white folks anymore because the world is running out of them

And what the hell are we going to do when there is less and less and less white people and the impacts of white supremacy is mitigated.

Now it's going to exist.

OK, but it might be so reduced that it can no longer be used as an excuse for complete black misery and failure.

Then what are we going to do?

We got to make some tough decisions now.

And we might have to start with, let's say.

By reducing or eliminating all this damn forgiveness for people who have in fact committed crimes against their own community if you've harmed black people you don't deserve to live around them and it's not too harsh to say like if you've harmed a child Right, you don't deserve to live around children.

We agree on that don't we if you've sexually assaulted a child you don't have access to children anymore and that's something that we consider reasonable if you've harmed a member of your own community doesn't that community have the right to say yeah, we don't want you here anymore Are you gonna listen to them plead their case?

Well, I didn't like the way this person was dressed and I've robbed them because I didn't they had too much attitude and I robbed them.

I'm sorry.

I robbed them.

Sherwin Hughes

OK, cool.

You're not going to rob anybody else because we don't want you over here.

The central finding Milwaukee is becoming safer overall, but not every neighborhood is benefiting equally.

Milwaukee's latest third quarter crime report released October 14.

So yesterday.

shows substantial citywide reductions in homicides, non-fatal shootings and carjackings.

However, Sherman Park has experienced a significant increase in gun violence, demonstrating how citywide improvements can conceal neighborhood level deterioration.

Overall, reported serious crime fell 4% through September.

This meaningful progress, I don't think 4% is meaningful progress for less crimes out of 100.

This is meaningful progress according to the article, but it does not establish that every north side neighborhood experienced a comparable reduction.

The most recent independently verified neighborhood specific comparison from January 1 through August 10, 2026.

Sherman Park had a 50% increase in homicides.

Sherman Park had a 140% increase in non-fatal shootings.

The Sherman Park neighborhood had a 114% increase in fatal plus non-fatal shootings combined.

And the Sherman Park neighborhood had a 44.8% increase in aggravated assaults.

What if the people that live in that beautiful historic neighborhood said enough?

We're putting up gates.

And if you want to live here, you're going to have to pass a background check and meet the approval of the people who have invested here for years, who have mortgages, who are paying ridiculous amounts of property taxes.

Is that so wrong?

Again, I'm going to use the example of the child sex offender.

If you offend each against a child, you don't get to be around children anymore.

In fact, if you've offended a child, you don't get to be around your own children.

And we accept that, like, oh yeah, if you've touched a child or heard a child in any other kind of way, we don't allow you access to children.

But what if you have done something to an adult?

That adult has the right to say, I don't want you around me.

And then a collection of adults in a neighborhood, in a community that take crime seriously, because I don't think we take it serious.

I think we laugh at it.

I think we point our fingers at our elected officials.

Trust me when I tell you, there's not much they can do.

They can pass a bunch of ordinances.

I believe the David Crowley has a chance of getting elected governor.

He can sign a bunch of new bills into law making a whole bunch of stuff illegal.

But if people are content on breaking the law, the laws on the books don't matter.

Ladies and gentlemen, laws are for the law abiding.

Only for the law abiding.

If you're going to break the law and you're going to commit that crime, you don't care what the law is.

Do you honestly think that there's someone who's going to murder somebody probably this weekend?

You think they're saying, well, you know, murder is illegal and I probably shouldn't do this because I'm going to face life in prison.

No, they're going to pull the trigger.

They know that murder is illegal.

They know people that have been murdered.

They know people that are in jail for murder.

Trust me, they know.

And they're going to do it anyway.

Now, most regular normal people, oh, I don't want to murder because I don't want to sacrifice my freedom.

I want to be able to go to Summerfest.

And I want to be able to go and hang out at the restaurant and at the bar.

I don't want to murder because I'm not going to like prison food.

I don't want to murder because gravity will be my worst enemy because if I'm in the prison and I happen to drop something, I got to be careful of who's behind me.

So law abiding people are like, you know what?

Maybe I'll just walk away from this volatile situation and won't do any murdering.

Laws are for the law abiding and we think that we need these tough on crime people.

We're tough on crime.

We are.

Now we also have to be careful as black folks because we put ourselves in another damn catch 22 we want safer neighborhoods We want safer communities.

I I agree, but then if black people commit a bunch of crimes and let's just say black people do I'm not You know saying we're the only ones that commit crimes But let's just say there's African-Americans that commit crime and they get convicted for the crimes that they actually committed.

Let's say they confessed Yeah, I did it.

I committed the crime and then they go to jail

And then we add up all the black people that confessed or were found guilty of their crimes.

And we see that there's a large percentage of black people that are in jail or committing crimes that they actually committed.

Okay.

We then are going to call the criminal justice system racist because black people that committed crimes got convicted for committing crimes and are serving time in jail.

They have criminal records and we're going to say, oh no, the criminal justice system is racist because look at all the black people that are in jail.

But wait a minute, didn't.

Didn't we want safer neighborhoods and safer communities?

Didn't we want tough on crime politicians?

Don't we want people to serve out their their whole sentences?

Well, yeah, but what if some of those people are black?

Okay.

Are we going to then call that racist?

Yes.

But but black people actually committed the crimes and statistically they committed those crimes against other black people.

Do you agree?

Uh huh.

And they went to jail for committing their crimes.

Do you agree with that?

Oh, I certainly do.

But the criminal justice system is racist because there's a bunch of black people in jail for committing crimes Some of which they confessed to some of which they was on body cam.

I Saw they got a little thing here right on Fox six now It's feels racist But it's Black woman walking out of target on camera And they published her picture they published the surveillance footage of her she stole a hundred and

$50 some worth of merchandise and they put a little thing on the Fox six Now website black woman large build wearing pajama style clothing, but she actually did it Would somebody call that racist?

I mean, I think it's funny.

She's wearing a terrible

wig she should have stolen a better wig if you ladies oh my god if you're gonna commit a crime get a nice wig take a break come back we'll talk to Tracy Tracy hang on don't go nowhere Tracy I'm gonna take a little break we're gonna come back and talk to you the truth with Sherwin Hughes will be right back

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Here's what Sharita said.

This is the person that said oh, we got to forgive people when they commit crimes whatever Here's what she said in the YouTube.

I swear YouTube chat just has the best comments ever She says now I'm a felon for shooting this man in the ankle For beating his girlfriend and almost killing her

She says I served nine months in jail and I'm on probation for three years due to my action.

Hang on.

She read it.

Did you shoot?

This man in the ankle while he was actively assaulting this woman because I'm confused because legally in Wisconsin, you can intervene.

Well, there might be some stipulations, but you can intervene with physical force like you can use your firearm to protect somebody else even if you don't know legally you can do that But I almost want you to call in She said that's why I said some people do deserve a second chance But I have to live with what I did and I'm okay with that because I saved someone from almost losing their life

So you intervene in an active domestic violence situation, or did you find dude later and blast him?

Also, were you legally qualified to carry that firearm?

Whose gun was it?

Was the gun stolen?

Like I need answers.

I'm very curious about this.

In the meantime, let's talk to Hot Tracy.

Thank you for holding.

How are you?

Good morning.

Thanks for taking my call.

Sherwin Hughes

Sure.

What's on your mind?

About the gated community.

I was thinking about something totally different, something radical there.

Sherwin Hughes

Do you know of any gated communities in Milwaukee?

Because I can't seem to find

any.

I haven't looked, but I got a radical idea that's called workers point.

Workers point?

No, workers point.

Now you got, now you got different properties up here that you know that accept Section 8 and low income and stuff like that.

What if we had a community called Workers Point where people with jobs would get the same benefits that the people that don't necessarily work?

You see what I'm saying?

Where you would have a community full of workers that would still, you can get help from the government like everybody else because even people that are making $30 an hour.

They still need help with food stamps and other bills and stuff like that.

We actually work and pay taxes into that program, but a lot of us never get to utilize.

So we had a community called workers point where you would have low income housing for people with jobs, like real, you know, like really good jobs, but still need help with

Sherwin Hughes

housing.

So subsidized housing.

for low like low-income housing for people that have high income

I Wouldn't necessarily say high income but those who don't qualify for the benefits because we make too much But we still need food stamps.

We still need stuff like that But we we don't qualify because we are over that threshold But if I could get food stamps right now, I would use and I make good money, but I still need

because of the rent.

See, the rent is high.

You see what I'm saying?

So that eats into the food and stuff like that.

So instead of just having low income, maybe you should have some people that are actually working that can live in a community where the rent isn't that high, but still qualify even though you have a good job based on the situation of the economy.

Now that's a fairy tale.

That's just you know, but who knows what this point it would Okay, well

Sherwin Hughes

you keep saying it and keep developing that idea, but I appreciate

you know You just never know you have a good morning.

Sherwin Hughes

Okay you too Tracy All right, let's take a moment shall we?

If you make $30 an hour me use round numbers here, that's about $250 a day

In a five-day work week that's 1250 a week That is 2,500 every pay period that's $5,000 per month and I get it because your rents could be quite honestly half of that your rent could be $2,500 a month and before taxes you're bringing home 5,000.

Okay, cool So if we adjusted some kind of scale to where because I can see people that are making

What on paper looks like decent money, but they are still financially struggling.

Let's just let's take a look at this just for a moment He said he would get food stamps if he could qualify for let me let you know some traces I assure you there are ways you can get your hands on some stamps You might go to jail, but you can get you can get some stamps at a very steep discounted price If we allow people this is an individual now

that are making $60,000 a year because that's Roughly $30 an hour.

That's 1250 a week.

That's 2,500 every two weeks.

That is $5,000 a month times 12 months That's $60,000 for an individual if we allow those people to qualify for a housing subsidy Because housing is getting more expensive mortgages are getting more expensive interest rates are rising rent is gonna rise to

Because when landlords know that people can't afford to get a 30 year or a 15 year fixed mortgage, they naturally are going to raise the rent.

And just in general, everything is getting more expensive.

If we allow people to make 60 grand a year as an individual to qualify for these subsidies, we would probably quadruple the number of people that are receiving welfare.

Who in the hell is going to pay for it?

Because right now you have the folks who are making the $60,000 a year.

Their taxes are subsidizing people.

that are unemployed and people that are making $10 an hour and $7 an hour.

So if we increase the dollar amount per hour that you make and allow you to qualify for housing subsidies, who in the hell is going to pay for it?

And stop saying millionaires and billionaires because eventually millionaires and billionaires will hide their money to where we won't have any access to taxing it whatsoever.

And there's ways in which they can do that.

If you continue and I know y'all hate rich people, but it's crazy that we all want to be a rich person, but we hate them probably because we're not rich if a Company a multi-billion dollar company a Walmart as an example or CVS or whatever locates in a community

And that community is unsafe and workers are having their cars broken into and workers are being robbed and people don't want to work in that location and let's just say that people are stealing and They're shoplifting and the shrinkage is very very high Let's say the shrinkage is even internal because people that live in that neighborhood might also work at that Walgreens that CVS that Walmart and they're stealing that multi-billion dollar comic.

What's it gonna do?

It's gonna leave Think of a very wealthy person as the exact same thing if they're in a place in a space in a community

Where they don't feel comfortable.

They don't feel safe.

It is not a conducive place for them to be wealthy.

They will go someplace else.

And if we think that we can just siphon money off of wealthy people, and it's crazy because most rich people, like you can't be too mad at Jeff Bezos when the last 37 things you purchase were from Amazon.

It's like, whoa.

give our money to these people, these companies and these corporations, and then get mad that they got rich off of our money, but there has never been any conversation about us reducing our consumerism.

But then get mad at the people that we make rich because they have products and services that we want.

I'm not mad at Netflix.

Now, I don't have the top tier Netflix.

That's too much.

It's like Netflix is damn near 30 bucks a month.

No, thank you.

And there's only a few times a year that.

Decent movies and documentaries are on Netflix anyway.

I'm not paying that kind of money for the Netflix I got the cheap Netflix the 899 Netflix that has commercials in it Which is fine because if I'm watching something on the cheap Netflix because I'm not paying $30 a month for Netflix I shall do no such thing Because when they play the commercials in the cheap version of Netflix, that's when I check my phone so that works out fine for me I Did a brief

Trial of YouTube TV YouTube TV is crazy expensive.

It's like 90 bucks a month.

So they give you like a 20 minute trial of YouTube TV and you can spread your 20 minutes out over Whatever period of time.

I think it took me Probably three or four days to utilize all 20 minutes because I check this or I'd see if they have this sports game on or I check this and I check that ain't no way I'm paying 90 dollars a month for no YouTube TV

But for the people that do pay $90 a month for YouTube TV, you can't get mad at the CEOs of Google for being multi-billionaires because you got got for $90 a month watching the YouTube TV.

Tracy had a novel idea, allow people that make $60,000 to qualify for some of these subsidies.

But here's what we do, Tracy, instead of doing that.

We'll just give tax breaks to or income tax reductions to or property tax reductions to Middle-class working families.

That's what we call that so instead of subsidizing their housing We just take less money out of their checks so they can have a little bit more cash that they can spread around and help cushion them for upturns and downs downturns I should say in the economy but to have them qualify

for food subsidies and housing subsidies.

Ah, that might be a bit much because think about how many more people we will have on the welfare rolls if poverty is now $60,000 a year.

I mean, you could make that case.

You're probably better off asking for universal basic income where everybody, no matter what, gets a thousand bucks a month just no matter what.

And maybe that's an AI data center dividend if an AI data center comes in your community.

Part of the deal for them to get the land and the water and the electricity is they got to give every resident $1,000 a month where you can buy anything with that $1,000 a month help offset you You know your debt pay your bills buy a little cocaine what I would buy whatever you want son of our business The truth with shirt when Hughes will be right back

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Sherita says she's gonna call in.

I'm waiting on your call, Sherita.

I want you to explain this situation.

She says, earlier in the program, I was talking about how we are too drunk on forgiveness for people who have committed crimes and committed offenses, especially against other black people.

And if people are fed up and they're tired of this, shouldn't those people who are fed up and tired have the ability and have the right to live in a neighborhood and live in a community where there are no criminals whatsoever?

Listen listen, I know it was a situation where you had to shoot somebody you had to rob the bank Okay, but we don't want you to live over here.

Go live with other bank robbers You can't then you can't harm people hurt people and then beg those same people for access to them and If I take the situation with children it makes a lot more sense If someone has offended a child and has harmed a child we no longer give them access to children and we're perfectly okay with that

If somebody has committed another kind of crime and you've harmed an adult, that adult would say, I don't want you around me anymore, even though you did go to jail.

Shariata says she shot a man in the ankle because he was beating his girlfriend and she served nine months and she's on probation because of that and she is now a felon.

You didn't go to jail, Shariata.

You went to prison.

Just would love the details of that because legally unless unless there's other factors that you are Sharing with us and if that's 99% of the situation when someone says oh sure when I did this I went to jail for 30 years and I shouldn't have yeah, but she also didn't tell us you had 17 pounds of heroin in your truck Let's talk to Sandra.

You're on one on one seven the truth.

How are you?

I'm just fine.

How are you?

I'm good.

What's on your mind?

Hmm, a lot of stuff.

Cause I listen and I, you know, I read and I'm, I'm going to read even deeper, especially about the criminal justice system, because like I told you before, I had a son stayed 22 years in prison and he died in 24 in prison on the ground.

But anyways, I'm just

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wondering, I

can't say exactly, but they said he did.

Well, the law when he went to try because instead of him pre bargaining He went to trial and you probably should have pre bargaining and you might have been almost out But you know how they do they so smart they want to but do we try to go did he

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commit the crime though?

You

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don't know if he come in you said he should have taken a plea for a crime that you don't know if he committed Was there like evidence DNA?

Cuz really bad so I don't want you to say it cuz you're gonna lose

a lot of

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sympathy if you tell people what the crime is but his crime was Really bad, but if you think you did it was it was his word against somebody else's that what

we're trying to say

Just climb down when you're locking people up that you say are criminals You got a president.

That's the biggest criminal plus this aren't a right But yet the crime is still high to the sky.

We got to be scared.

We are living in a gay-gay community over here where I am ain't no house Ain't nobody they just now started tearing down houses that's been boarded up for 50 years I was watching the documentary the other day they were showing the whole city of Milwaukee to show North Avenue the raggedy buildings how these

People that ran stores, like American Motors, now it's a Walmart over there on the east side.

They run the stores and then they leave.

They start offshoring the dial so they can make more money.

So we want too much money.

And that necessary thing is cheap, it falls apart, can zip up, zippers break, buttons fall off.

And the raggedy homes they're building are not made of real stuff.

I mean, you can look at it so cheap, like they throw it up with a snap of a finger.

But as always, we get mad at the rich.

I'm not mad at the rich.

I'm mad because they can pick us and we're not smart enough to know it.

We get pimp not the right.

Especially black people.

We buy tickets to games because we spend a lot of money to these people.

They say our money don't stay in our area for one day.

If we spend money, they're getting rich to me.

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Okay.

What do we stop spending money with them?

Just stop spending it.

Don't use trouble.

Why are

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we blaming the people?

that we are giving our money to.

Isn't that a discipline problem with us and where we spend our money?

Well, that's what we need to learn.

Get in the back door, teach our people, just like they did.

They came up with 2025.

Wrecking crew, how they're going to wreck up America.

And by the way, who almost America don't seem like Americans on America.

No way.

We like the Russians and everybody else on it.

But no, just get our kids in the back.

Just do like they do.

You don't know every move they make until they do it.

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Sounds like we're just

generally we're

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just generally mad at the system right now We're mad at the companies for leaving and going overseas and not paying American workers what they want

you can't pay American workers that

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kind of money because American workers are terrible and you know that

Okay, so

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we don't say it again

about the building

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with them

What can we do with them?

I suggest that we could donate we donate everything else and then we can fix our community

This might say well, we pay taxes you shouldn't have to donate

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So wait, what are we doing with the board of buildings now?

We're donating them They're just standing there looking

at us and then they follow the park cause nature take them back.

They rust out like a Detroit car manufacturers They're on the weather channel all this stuff is rust out it falls apart and

We're not teaching our kids or whatever how to attain all of this success.

So that's our fault.

And we talk about it, but we need to get a school.

Because

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we're not teaching our kids that's on us, right?

And if there's a building sitting vacant or a house sitting vacant in a neighborhood,

What is stopping us from pooling our money together and hiring some people in the neighborhoods to do the drywall and the HVAC and to do the roofs?

Like what's stopping us from buying that

house?

Waiting for somebody

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waiting for Superman as Black people?

Somebody told me it's against the law.

You know, legal things you got to go through to get this done.

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It's against

the law to

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buy a house.

It's against the law to put money into trying to redo this city.

Like I said don't we donate to every society?

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Don't don't don't listen to that person

again That was me saying can't we donate we donate to other stuff can't we donate they say it's against the law, but I never checked into it But it's not bad thing to break our people we got to wake them up and stop saying we're criminal cops when you say criminals with black face, of

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course

Because what'll happen is Black people

will

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commit the

crime.

Sandra,

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can we have a conversation about Black folks hurting other Black folks and us improving

our community?

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I

always receive our crimes.

Sandra,

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can we have

a

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conversation about...

Us our people and our community without bringing in the president of the United States and say oh he's a criminal too because what you're doing is you're justifying bad behavior of black people by saying Donald Trump

No,

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can we have a conversation just internally without including white folks or is that even

possible?

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We've exhausted the conversation I gotta take a break now

I think we're too obsessed with white folks.

And the obsession that we have with them, because we get mad that they can do a bunch of crazy stuff and illegal stuff and they can break the rules and break the laws.

And instead of us saying, wow, let's not be like them.

We want to be like them.

But their most sinister impulse is, well, how come the white people get to commit all these crimes and get away with it?

How about we don't question that?

And how about we don't commit crimes?

Because if we as black people commit crimes, we're committing them.

Against one another and here's what I'll say to all the shooters and all the killers Y'all this real tough ain't you but when it comes to shooting the races you ain't got no bullets left Oh, you'll shoot somebody to live right next door to you somebody your own community disrespecting you But when it comes to shooting the bigot are going to a clan rally and regulating all of a sudden you don't know how to aim Y'all need to chill.

I think we're scared of white folks unnecessarily because they're scared of us

What am I even talking about today?

Look, I feel like we're going backwards Got Linda in the YouTube chat talking about black people that are successful Don't want other black people to be successful successful black people want everybody to be successful now Maybe we need to address this whole idea of gatekeeping Stop it.

You know damn well You can't tell certain people about certain things that you have that you discovered because the ruin it if you give certain people a connection

If you give certain people an opportunity, they will exploit it and they will ruin it.

You got to keep some secrets now.

You mean to tell me that all the things that you have learned and what you have discovered through your hard work and your discipline, you're just going to give that away.

It might have taken you 40 years to arrive at a certain point.

You're just going to give that away.

Now, some things like knowledge and conversation you can share freely.

But if you work to obtain something, you know you can't give it away to somebody who's undeserving because they won't know what to do with the opportunity and they'll ruin it.

I have introduced people to other folks and I regret doing it.

Sherwin, why did you introduce me to them?

They ended up ripping me off.

Sherwin, why did you introduce me to them?

They ended up lying to me.

And here I am thinking like, oh, I don't want to be a gatekeeper.

I'm going to share all of these connections that I have with people that seem to be deserving.

You know, dammit, you can't do that.

You need the gatekeeper.

That's why we need gated communities.

Sherwinville.

No criminals, no felons, no sex offenders, no armed robbers, nobody that shot somebody in the ankle.

You can't live here.

Go live somewhere else.

Live off a green field.

Oh Lord Melisand is calling.

We're about to get extra racist I'm take a break come back and talk to her on the other side The truth with Sherwin Hughes will be back in a couple minutes

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During the commercial break, I got a little curious about the price of Brewer's World Series tickets, because they're going to the World Series.

The tickets start.

So this would be game one of the World Series.

Brewer's have home field advantage during the World Series.

This is going to be fantastic for the city.

Regardless of how you feel about baseball, I think we need this.

The tickets start at $1,322.

And on this scale,

They go up to 6,053.

They're going to be more expensive than that.

Six.

Oh, Lord.

I can't breathe.

$6,000.

I hope they can subsidize.

Can we get welfare for Brewer's tickets?

Can I qualify because of my income to get a subsidized Brewer's ticket?

$6,053.

Can I pick the section?

Nope.

Oh, here we go.

What is the section one?

One twenty six.

Three thousand twenty seven dollars and fifty cents.

It's an outfield seat.

Good God Almighty.

Let's talk to Milisano on one on one seven the truth.

How are you?

I am doing well.

Good morning.

Morning.

I only have this is something that has always baffled me.

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Okay.

If we know the deck is stacked against us.

The criminal justice system, you're not going to get a fair shake.

Why do you do the crime?

Two people, a black boy and a white boy, do the exact same crime.

The white boy's family has enough money to get him a private attorney.

The black boy has a public defender.

He's going to get screwed.

Why are you trying to do what the white people do?

If they do it and they get a little slap on the wrist, you know you're going to get more, so don't do it.

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But what if they really want to commit the crime?

What if they really want to steal the car?

What if they're really mad at the person and they have to shoot them in the

face?

Then you have to accept the consequences.

Well, no, cause consequences are

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racist.

Millison, that's

no, they're not.

And if it's true, it cannot be racist.

I keep telling you that if it's true, it's not racist.

It can't be.

If it's true.

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Millison

you know as well as I do

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that if a black person commits a crime and they even admit it and they Confess to it and there's camera footage of them and they got DNA evidence We know that that's racist if they get caught and go

to jail.

It's racist No, that's true.

That's like the little boy that got beat up by the police if you

have a concealed carry, if you got your mama carry, it don't matter.

If you have a police encounter and you have a gun, what happens to you just happens to you.

We can't do no Monday morning quarterbacking.

You got beat.

Lee, you're done at home.

If you think you need your gun on the street, hope you don't have a police encounter.

But if you do and you get messed up, that's on you because you should have left it at home.

But Milis on the white people get to

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carry Milis on the white people get to carry their guns and

they don't get

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hurt by the police.

People

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get to

cut what

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you

need to do is wake up white tomorrow and then you can do that.

But you're not white.

So you can't do that.

I got another one for you.

OK.

White people read books.

Try that.

Try that.

That's racist.

We read books too.

Do but if you were reading a book instead of toting the gun you wouldn't be in trouble I'm just saying it.

Yeah, I'm just saying you us and these guns I don't know where that little mentality came from But you walking around here thinking you having a gun that you're special or you're something no

The police will shoot you down.

Your parents will need to go fund me because you paid $10,000 for a gun and some bullets, but you didn't think about some life insurance.

So that falls

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on you.

All right.

Bye-bye.

That was racist.

Everything she said was racist.

Hello, Cherise.

Cherise, I hope you're not a racist.

What do you have to say about

the

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conversation?

Well, just going, I didn't hear the initial start, but I just been hearing, you know, I heard what she said and I heard what she was saying before.

And, you know, like, I already got it rough just being this black female, just going through Milwaukee.

Like I said, I was at Mayfair Mall, I don't know, some years ago, and the day before I was there.

And what happened?

I watched this lady who looks nothing like me.

Fight with the police.

I mean fight.

I mean like up close smell breath everything the next day I'm there they follow me through the parking lot All the way there and it was like we told you not to come here and before No more no more.

We don't want you here and I could have done in trouble So if I'm already having a hard time just trying to buy my daughter a jacket at Mayfair, I don't want no troubles

I don't carry a gun.

I go through these neighborhoods.

I go do my home visits.

I work.

I don't want no gun.

I already got enough trouble just being who I am.

Now, I think with guns, I think you feel more likely to take and handle situations yourself than to call the police.

I pay taxes.

I trust the police that if I got a problem, I call the police.

Now, I've had episodes where I've had to call the police, and you know what?

I'm not sending you.

I didn't take matters in my own hand.

I didn't shoot nobody.

I didn't fight nobody.

I didn't do any of that.

Because guess what, Sharon?

If I put hands on anybody, if I catch any assault and battery charge, you know what I'm losing?

I'm losing my job.

I cannot have a solid battery on my thing.

So now, how's my daughter going to get her college pay for?

How is everybody that are impacted by the decisions I make going to be impacted?

So I have a lot to lose by saying, oh, oh, GP, I'm going to handle this.

Uh-uh, he ain't going to be able to disrespect me like that.

I'm going to handle this.

No, I step back.

I call 911 and I let the professionals do it because if they go kill that person, guess what?

They're probably going to get off.

They're going to investigate what if I shoot somebody, I'm being in trouble.

And like I said, I'm not just talking.

I've had situations where I had to just choose.

Do I want to play Miss Police Officer with no credentials?

or do I want to play a citizen who pays taxes and calls the police?

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Let's leave

it there.

So I call the police.

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All right, thank you.

Appreciate it.

Have a nice day.

All right, then.

She's got a lot to lose.

And that was not a very racist comment that she made.

Middle sign on the other hand, racist.

The truth with Sherwin Hughes will be back for hour three.

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Welcome to hour three of The Truth with Sherwin Hughes.

I think we need gated communities where fed up residents can live in a place and in a space where they know everyone who is their neighbor.

You don't even gotta be on a first name basis with your neighbor, but you know, to live in the community, your gated community, they have zero criminal convictions in their background.

Now, here's the caveat.

You are going to pay more for this level of safety, but isn't peace of mind worth it to know that everyone that lives in the neighborhood, and we got to do it one better.

There's no litter.

People aren't throwing stuff on the garbage because they're paying too much money to live in this gated community.

You're paying for the private security.

There's only one way in.

There's only one way out.

Undesirable people are simply not welcome.

People just can't walk around and just can't drive through your neighborhood.

There's a gate.

There is security.

And if somebody tries to force their way in,

Law enforcement is called or maybe private security handles that we got gated communities all over this country.

Now, I'd rather we provide additional safety measures in the city of Milwaukee because the alternative is more people are going to leave.

They're going to move somewhere else.

They're going to take their income with them.

They're going to take the tax base with them.

In fact, if enough people leave, some employers might say it's not worth it for us to stay because the population of Milwaukee is declining so much and I'll do you one better.

If an employer decides to come to a city because we're always saying, oh, we need more jobs here.

We got to bring in the jobs.

OK, cool.

You know the first thing a major employer is going to look at?

How's the education system?

Are we going to have an educated workforce?

If we bring our $5 billion company to Milwaukee, we hire 10,000 people and pay them all $75,000 a year to start.

Do we have a public education system where the kids can read on grade level and do at least basic math?

The answer to that is no.

I don't know why we believe that we can get all these opportunities and all these resources here when we don't have the people in the population that can support high paying jobs.

I know people are mad at data centers, but we need something to come and develop in Wisconsin.

We do.

You don't always get to be a chooser if you're a beggar and I hate to be that harsh.

The other thing is you can't just give somebody a job if they don't have the skills and the qualifications for it.

We try that with customer service jobs because a lot of those jobs pay a minimum wage.

But you still have to have some kind of skill.

Do you see what happens?

Do you know what happens to businesses?

And you know, the customer experience when the person who is serving you or ringing you up has zero skills whatsoever, it's a miserable, miserable situation.

You cannot hire people that do not have skills.

You cannot hire people to do customer service if they don't have customer service skills.

Because guess what's going to happen?

Customers are not going to return.

So to think that we can just bring jobs here and everyone who was unemployed can be employed, that's not the case because jobs, a career, a vocation is not welfare.

Hey everybody that needs a job, here go to this place and get a job and they'll pay you $75,000 a year.

You know you don't know how to do basic customer service, you can't use Microsoft Word or Microsoft Excel, you don't even have good telephone skills, but here you go, here's the job because you need one.

Do you honestly think the business can operate like that?

And you know that businesses can operate like that because there are some entrepreneurs that are out there.

and some of y'all have taken some great chances on some of the people that you have hired and what has happened with some of those people you took chances on and maybe it's somebody that you know and you like them and they're a really good person and they fell on hard times and they really need this job and you find a position for them in your business in your company that you started with your own money and your own time labor and effort and they mess your whole business up and now you're over here losing customers because you took a chance on that person

I bet you won't do that again.

We need to understand and appreciate that you can't just give opportunities to people because they got a hard luck story.

Some people created their own hard luck stories because that's all they know.

Let's talk to someone who doesn't know very much about hard luck stories because their luck is always good.

Hi, Al.

Thank you for holding.

How are you?

I'm doing fine.

Well, first of all, data communities does not have section 8.

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They don't

have cheap rent.

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That's

right.

They don't have scattered side house and and they don't got them packed together like big bus and cockroaches And you bring up something for I think you

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have you agree that we should have gated communities.

You think that's a good idea

Not at this time.

No, why not?

Lisa first of all

In order to have a gated community, you have to have a certain a certain standard.

We do

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have.

You got to have a neighborhood.

So here's what we'll do.

We'll designate a neighborhood and maybe it's a brand new development.

Maybe there's nothing there right now.

Maybe it's an empty field and we put 10 or 15 beautiful homes and we build these brand new homes and we're going to gate that community and in order to live there in order to qualify for a mortgage, you got to have a good job.

You got to have money in the bank.

Got to have good credit and you have to have.

criminal infractions in your background and only

Okay, well, that's

holy dammit.

That's fine.

But for where were you talking about Milwaukee?

There's no goals because only thing they want to do is pack people on top of people on top of people.

Okay, now you what is that street Long Island Longhorn off over there behind the corn bees over off of Silver Spring and Silver Spring and Green Bay.

You go that last block that ain't done but Red Door section eight and

chaos, you know, and nothing against people who are on low section 8.

Their care for anything is very low because they don't have to work for it.

So when you look at all that section 8, y'all can call it affordable housing to the people in the Shepherd Express.

I don't give zero goddamn.

Okay, it's nothing by low income because every time it's low income is green dumpsters.

It's garbage.

Alright, so they keep pushing that and this is some of our own people that pushed that in the inner city.

But

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Al, I'm offering an alternative because we know that we don't like the poor people.

We don't like the Section 8 because there's a bunch of garbage and they're terrible people.

I'm talking about creating a brand new community for folks that are sick and tired of the bad behavior and the crime, a gated community.

I'm not talking about taking the neighborhood that exists and putting a gate around that.

No, we'd be starting from scratch.

It'd be a brand new community for a specific kind of homeowner that it's fed up.

Now they're going to have to pay a little bit more money for that gated security, but they're guaranteed no rap scallions are going to be able to come in.

Nobody's going to be able to just drive through and litter.

It's going to be all homeowners and they've all passed a background check to live in this particular community.

I mean,

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would you live

there?

I probably will, but I'll probably be out a little farther, but that's fine.

I think they're doing something like that off.

I think that's brown there in Titonia, a little part of River Hills.

But here's the thing with the inner city.

Ginger vacation going to take that over, because we know when they gingify, politicians is more on stuff.

They own it like flies on horse sugar, honey, iced tea.

So when you look at all the destitution, the disrespect that's coming in the inner city, it's allowed by the common council because you can't go put in a room and house.

or no trailer park in a way or to do but you can do it where it's a whole lot of black people okay and then you got them colors that's sitting up there and them dresses and them big bojangles spin them big bojangles smiles and they see everything coming on and then they black asses will get up there and say vote for me and you like you color green ham hot evening nigga i mean person please you know what i mean so it's things that has to be

pull back, pull back on some of the section eight.

Why do you have to pack all of them in one place like a bunch of roaches?

Why do you gotta do that?

Why you gotta keep stacking them and putting them in communities where you have homeowners?

Why do you have to keep doing that?

Y'all don't do that with the white people.

Y'all kissing like white people ass.

But oh, I guess because we black and we color, it's okay.

I don't know.

I mean, because if they don't fix it, and hey, they don't fix it, then they'll be kissing and licking their asses of the gentrification of the white folks.

Because y'all black asses love to do that.

Common console, all the men.

Mayor, because you stay kissing white ass, because you're not a fan of the color.

You know that too.

We can go a little deeper, but we ain't gonna do that today.

But hey, if they can't do nothing, we're gonna say eff it.

to all the black people that live here, get your money together and move.

And when they gentrify, they can kiss and lick their white asses, and you can be somewhere with no alleys and no sidewalks, and you can have your peace.

That's it.

How about that?

Because we're going through the same thing.

And I'm so sick and tired, it's goddamn 5-3-2-0-6.

Everybody know you from 5-3-2-0-6, goddamn it, OK?

All right, let's put that out there.

We already know that.

But what about the people who have, what about the homeowners in five, three, two, zero, six?

Everybody is not a goddamn junkie and had their mouth on a crack pipe.

Everybody, mama, didn't lay on our back and have seven goddamn kids and couldn't pay our goddamn rent.

Okay.

All right.

So can we talk about something else?

All we push is that black people are poor that goddamn it is and they don't have a pot to urinate in so black people get your money together Move let the white people move in and your politicians can lick on their breath and suck on their head.

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All right.

That's it.

All right.

Have a good day.

Okay.

Okay.

Have a good day to you too.

I don't know what's happening

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So The black elected officials don't like the colors But then Some black people also don't like the colors and Want to get rid of section eight?

Why do we have so much section eight because there's a lot of the colors But gotta stop saying that all black people are poor, but we don't I'm confused

D Donald says Milwaukee is too segregated for a gated community.

There won't be diversity and what about their kids that will eventually Grow up and go through their rebellion stage We got to stop with this diversity because the only people they wanted is black people Nobody wants to live around us and we don't want to live around them.

We got to stop it

You think that people legitimately walk out of their houses every single morning like oh my god I'm glad there's an Asian right there.

There's a Latino right there.

There's somebody from India right there There's a Korean woman who lives around the corner.

Yay.

Nobody says that you want to live around like-minded people in fact I don't even think people care about race if you are If you have a family there's a husband a wife and some kids You want to live around other husbands wives and kids that want safe communities in good schools this diversity thing we we've been duped

We don't want to live around white folks and white folks want to live around us and that's perfectly okay The only reason why it's a problem is if we live in one area and they live in another and they have better Resources and better amenities and more investments and better schools etc etc That's why it's not fair But if we can have that exact same stuff and not deal with them because I do we hate white people do we love them?

We hate when they gentrify, but then who's stopping black people from buying properties in black neighborhoods So when a white person wants to buy a property in a black neighborhood, we get mad at the white people.

No, that sounds like a sound investment

Because the property is cheap.

I think we're just all over the place.

But here's who's going to clear it up for us.

Sherman, how?

Hi, Sherman.

How were you today?

Clear it up for us, buddy.

How you doing today?

I'm going to clear up a little bit of something.

OK.

Our gated community is our sales and our voices.

We really don't need no physical barrier to wrap around certain neighborhoods in order for us to feel safe.

What we need to do as a group of people is that when we see troublemakers move into our community, we as a group of people need to get together and get to the police and say, hey, these people must go.

It's that simple.

Some people come to a neighborhood and thinking that neighborhood is going to conform to their way of doing things instead of them conforming to that neighborhood.

Because if we pick up our trash and keep our yards clean, you should follow suit.

Monkey see monkey do.

Don't come here thinking you're going to do something different and thinking you're going to bring this order here.

So those types of people need to get out of our community.

So we really don't need that physical gate.

The second thing is, you already know that I am the twice convicted felon, been to prison, get almost 11 years.

I have no shame in my past.

And I tell people upfront, I deserve to go to jail.

As a matter of fact, for what I did, I still need to be there.

And that happened almost 30 years ago.

That being said, when a person gets out of jail,

We need to reach back and kill these younger people and stuff.

Hey, man, that's not the way to go.

If you want to live in a room with another man the same size as a bathroom, go ahead and continue to do what you do.

But when you get there, don't call your mom and ask for no money.

Don't think that the people on the outside can feel sorry for you because people have warned you what's going to happen when you get there.

The other part of this conversation, as far as the housing and things like that, yes, these houses have been abandoned for 15, 15 years.

There's nothing stopping from some a person from going down to the city and say a I want that house Tell me what don't tell me what I can't what I can't do tell me what I need to do it in order with this house Person servant.

I know somebody that spent $84,000 or one car One car he spent $84,000 on the one car How many how many houses he could have bought with that one with that money good

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point

Other people we bought we got all these expensive cars right now.

We got Porsche's in our neighborhood Range Rover's are Lexus all kinds of Lexus all kinds of infinity.

So we can bottle Al Sharpton said events.

He said we bought what we want and bear for what we need

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Yeah, that's what I'll show what we want for what we need.

That's genius.

It's very true.

Yeah, that's that's that's what that's what he said

So when you see an abandoned house, and it's been sitting there for a while, the order list, I had asked Russell Stanford his question right here.

I said, how much does it cost to have a house thrown out?

He said between $8,000 and $12,000.

I think that's what the number he said.

But if he did that house to somebody, that very next year you'll start getting tax revenue off that house.

So the community wouldn't lose out.

If then you would have a person there to be caring about and somebody throw trash at y'all or had a dog walking down the street with no leash and no bag and picking up mess, we'd care because we got something in the game.

When you have nothing in the game, you have nothing to lose.

When you have nothing to lose, only thing you do is bring chaos.

You can get up every single day and bring chaos in our neighborhood because you have nothing to lose.

But if you had something to lose, you wouldn't want somebody to come by and break your window, breaking your car and, you know, or not cut their grass.

Because you would say, hey, man, you're making us all look bad.

I'm not sitting here preaching in order to be this righteous person and all this information that I'm telling.

I didn't learn this because I did everything right.

I did a lot of things wrong.

And when I did wrong, it made me realize my mistakes or my bad choices.

I'm going to say my bad choices.

And if we continue to blame the Alderman, the mayors, the governors and everybody else, well, we the problem.

You ain't seen no mayor, no white person come along and throw no trash in the 5306 zip code.

You don't see no white people standing in the middle of the streets, stuff like that, standing in the middle of

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the

politics.

All right, well,

Sherwin Hughes

have a good day.

You too.

Sherman got a flashback from jail when he heard that.

Somebody mentioned Servite Woods as a gated community.

The hell it is.

Servite Woods is affordable housing, y'all.

It's, I shouldn't say low income, but those condos are like $70,000 on the low end on the top end.

I don't think they touched 175.

That's cheap.

That's not gated.

You can drive all up and through Servite Woods.

It's not gated that that neighborhood is sorry if you live in survive woods.

It's a dump over there That's one of the worst neighborhoods in the city of Milwaukee.

There's nothing.

There's no amenities.

I Think is there an Aldi over there?

Whatever is on Brown Deer Road these days.

I know the Brown Deer Road is not the mecca of retail and shopping and Opportunity that it once was in the 80s in the 90s, but no, we don't have any gated communities in the city of Milwaukee and maybe that is what we are missing

We need to have certain areas and certain pockets that people are willing to pay more for cuz Milwaukee actually offers a lot of things.

There's a lot of stuff here if you have the money Downtown is great concerts are great music venues are great restaurants are great James Beard, Michigan a Michelin award-winning restaurants We have all the entertainment all the amenities all the things the black travel summit is here this week And I heard not name nothing from them.

I got to investigate that But people just want to live

In a safe area and you may travel all over the city and there's some neighborhood you may go to and that neighborhood might not be very safe.

But when you are at home in your gated community where you know all of your neighbors don't have any criminal backgrounds, there's no child sex offenders, there's no armed robbers, there's no shooters, there's no murderers.

I think that people should be able to do that for the person that brought up diversity.

Nobody wants diversity.

We got to understand that nobody wants wants you think those white people are sent boy.

I sure wish we had more blacks here I sure and if they do feel that way, let us go into a black neighborhood and buy it But this diversity thing you got to tell me where it's beneficial Because when it's too diverse you have cultures that get diffused You can't have your individual identity anymore.

Let me take a break come back.

We're not getting anywhere today, but this is some damn good talk radio I'm still waiting on you to call.

I she said she needed a phone number

Sharita, I Don't have a phone number memorize Sherwin.

I need the phone number I gave you the phone numbers 8332 121017 I want to hear about how you shot a man in the ankle that was beating his woman and then you went to jail and you're a felon because you shot No, this is time Sharita.

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over here making up excuses I done said the phone number I typed the phone number in the YouTube chat I want to hear from this woman who's a felon because she shot a man in the ankle but apparently the man was beating up his woman and Sharita shot the man to defend the woman which is legal legitimate use of force but she all of a sudden she's a felon now

I want to hear from her.

I gave her the phone number She said she looked she tried to Google it and it didn't come up I just Google one on one seven the truth and one two three results down It's our phone number, but that's all right.

It's eight three three two one two one zero one seven I need to hear from I don't think she's gonna call in because there's probably more to the story that she's not telling us It's crazy how somebody can commit a crime get a felony and then all of a sudden they're the victim And I'm not saying that's the case.

You know what I mean?

I Was saying that there should be people

If they have the money to do this they should live in a gated community where they can have so if you have like a homeowners association That's similar like they have rules though not necessarily rules on who can live I think they base it off of The price of the real estate because if you overprice stuff We know the trick for that right if you overprice things then poor people can't get in You can't oh, she's calling this will be good

You can't say no blacks allowed.

You can't say no poor people allowed, but make it cost $37,000 as a cover charge, and you can pretty much guarantee that people that don't have that kind of money won't have access to it.

All right, let's talk to William.

Gotta put her on hold.

Hi, Sharita.

How are you?

Hi, Sharon.

How are you doing?

Sherwin Hughes

Good.

So please tell us what happened.

Let me step somewhere so I can talk for a second.

I'm actually at work.

This was a situation that happened in 2023.

I was at a friend's apartment.

We were actually leaving out of the apartment and the midst of us leaving out, it was a guy beating on his girlfriend.

She was basically on the side of the vehicle passed out and he still stomping her out and I go to try to grab the guy to get him off of her.

Did you know either one of them?

I did not know neither one of them.

I think the lady and passing coming in and out of the apartment building multiple times, but I did not know her personally.

So after I tried to grab the guy to get him off of her, he stopped me really hard and me being through so much in my past.

I've been through a lot of situations, domestic violence and being.

at gunpoint being robbed at gunpoint.

So yes, I did have a gun.

Yes, my gun was registered.

It was mine.

It was in my name and it was a reaction to where instead of me shooting to kill him, I just wanted to get him off of her from beating on her.

The lady was literally passed out on the side of the car.

He's still just dumping her out.

And people right there watching nobody did anything.

Nobody called the police or did anything and it was just.

a reaction that I wanted to actually save the world.

Sherwin Hughes

Sharita, this happened in the city of Milwaukee or was it somewhere else?

It was in the city of Milwaukee.

Sherwin Hughes

All right, so you shot him in the ankle.

So boom, you pull out your pistol.

You shoot him in the ankle.

What happened after that?

He fell to the ground and he was just sitting there holding his ankle.

Then I had my friend call the police and police came.

I got arrested and.

Yeah, I ended up serving nine months in jail, not prison.

I was in the house of correction.

So that is still considered a jail.

So I served nine months there.

And right now I am on probation.

I'm almost off, but yeah, I did something I regret.

What

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did they charge you with?

Cause I didn't think that felons went to the house of corrections.

It sounds like a misdemeanor, but what was the charge?

Did you plead guilty?

Did it go to

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trial?

What happened?

I did not go to trial.

I took a plea deal.

I was originally charged with first degree reckless injury, but I had two great lawyers and I had my community back in me.

I had a lot of people that came to my court day, people that wrote letters on my behalf.

So my charges were dropped down through aggravated batteries.

So that's why I did not actually go to prison.

But why did they charge you with

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aggravated battery?

Because it sounds like you were not only defending that woman, but when you intervene to get that man off of that woman, it sounds like he advanced toward you and started attacking you.

So you had the right to defend not only her, but also yourself.

But how did they come up with an aggravated battery charge?

It was actually my lawyer to try to give me a last sentence because I was faced in 25 to 30 years for the charge that I was being originally charged with.

But isn't this self, why

Sherwin Hughes

did they not consider this self-defense is what my question is?

Because it sounds like you were defending her, which you legally can do.

The gun was yours, the gun was registered, you had every right to carry the gun.

Were you a felon prior to?

No.

Okay.

Any

other criminal charges like any other criminal

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any other criminal convictions in your background?

No as a kid, I mean I saw a deal for as a kid, but that is obviously was Years ago as a child, but here in the state of Wisconsin.

We do not have self-defense laws or the self defense of others So that was not something that I was able to consider.

I mean my lawyer tried but that was not something That was for me.

Sherwin Hughes

Wait

a minute.

We don't have

Sherwin Hughes

self-defense laws in Wisconsin

No, we do not.

In that situation, because obviously it was not him beating on me, so I couldn't use that as self-defense, should I say.

So I'm not gonna say we don't have the self-defense law, but we do.

Just by him not beating on me, or I'm not the one that was getting beat, I couldn't use self-defense.

Sherwin Hughes

Okay, this is a very unusual situation.

Well, I'm glad that you called us to help clear

it

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up.

Yeah, cause I didn't like to comment that too made and I'm like, I'm not a bad person.

I'm not that type of person.

Like I graduated from college.

Like when I came home, I turned my life, you know, I completed what I was trying to do before I went to jail.

And I came home, I graduated college.

I have my associate's degree in applied science for real estate.

I got my home back, my vehicle, you know, I helped my family, like.

I am not a bad person who I just go out here and looking for trouble.

That's not me.

I said, I made a mistake trying to help someone else, but I wouldn't even consider that a mistake because I helped someone.

So I just did what I felt was best trying to help the next person that was around.

And I said, if the situation was to occur again, yes, I probably wouldn't hesitate to do it again.

I will probably try to, you know, do things differently because of what I went through and how I'm being looked at now.

today.

Like I'm being looked at as a criminal.

Like I'm a bad person.

I'm being turned down for jobs or housing and stuff like that.

But I am not a bad person.

Sherwin Hughes

Did it feel good when you popped him?

What was it like?

What do I feel like when you when that thing went off?

What was your feeling at that moment?

To be honest, it happened so fast.

So I didn't really have a feeling about it.

But

to me like to see the videos in the aftermath of what happened because you have to walk a video and you know when you get arrested they show you a discovery of you know everything that happened or things that took against you and all of that.

I saw myself and it happened so fast but I said I was licensed to carry so I did go to a shooting range who you know I said to protect myself due to all the things that happened to me in the past so I would say it was a nice shot.

Sherwin Hughes

Yeah, it was, especially in the ankle.

So you must have been really close to him because you could have aimed for the head, the neck, center mass.

You aimed down and you got that ankle.

And then he

fell over

Sherwin Hughes

where you must have been very close to him.

Was he

on you?

I was close enough, but my intentions was not to shoot to kill the man.

Like I said, I just wanted him to get off of the girl.

Like he was literally dumping her out and she's already passed out on the ground.

So I'm like, nobody is doing anything.

So that was just my first reaction to help.

Sherwin Hughes

Well, thank you.

I'm sure that woman is very thankful for you as well, because he very well may have killed her.

So we do appreciate your call.

No, thank you so much.

I appreciate you for accepting my call.

And I love your show.

So thank you so

Sherwin Hughes

much.

All right.

Thank you, Sharita.

Let me say something.

So I got the details of Wisconsin self-defense law and hell yeah, we have self-defense laws in this state Well, let me tell you about her.

She sounds like a very nice lady She does and it sounds like she did the right thing.

She also made it clear hell She would do it again.

Let me be clear about Sharita.

Sharita's a shooter Yeah, huh.

Yeah, she's a shooter you heard she's like, yeah, it was a nice shot I Blasted his whole ass

That's a shooter right there.

All right.

I didn't predict any of this when I started the show today.

We talked to a shooter today.

Good thing she ain't killing.

If she, the way she described it, ladies and gentlemen, I got to take a break.

That sounded like legitimate self-defense because in Wisconsin, I have it right here.

Eminent threat the danger must be happening right now or about to happen within seconds not a future or delayed threat Proportional force.

Oh, this may be where they got her You can only use the amount of force reasonably necessary to stop the threat deadly forces only legal if you reasonably believe You face an immediate risk of death or great bodily harm because Serita wasn't the one getting beat and assaulted

Wisconsin self-defense laws governed by Wisconsin statue three nine three nine point four eight Which allows you to use reasonable force to protect yourself or others?

from unlawful Interference all right, let's take a break come back She read as a shooter I wouldn't mess with her I wouldn't she sounds like a nice lady.

She got her life together She said she got her life back on track.

She finished school, but she's that's a shooter right there because once

Once you were shooter, you know what I mean?

It's like once you taste blood.

Ooh, I ain't messing with her.

She said it was a nice shot, niggle.

Blackout!

Oh, Lord.

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I don't know what y'all think.

Should Sharita be allowed in the gated community?

I'm gonna go ahead and say yes, because she can be security.

Block out!

Oh my, what was that?

Oh, that was just Sherita again shooting at a delivery driver.

They brought the wrong door to edge order.

Block out!

Oh, Sherita.

That's just her shooting at squirrels in the neighborhood.

She's calm about it too.

She's like, yeah, I did it.

And I do it again.

Alright, there's something about that.

So this was a good conversation to have because I was under the impression that you can use force.

Now, it's got to be a proportional force.

I guess she could have hit the dude because of the man was hitting a woman who was unconscious.

I guess Sherita, I guess, could have hit him as well.

But that's probably a mismatch, assuming that he's a man and probably of

Larger size and more strength the hell we don't know he might have been a little four foot seven guy.

We don't know Now she also said that she was able to see footage.

Did she say that that she saw like video of it?

I want to see the video Where the video at somebody got cell phone camera footage.

I want to see the video of Sherita She probably did you know how they do in the movies when you shoot somebody and you have a little bit of smoke Coming out the barrel of the gun.

She probably went

Wisconsin statute nine three nine dot four eight governs the legal privilege of Self-defense and defense of others that is the important part because you can defend somebody else that part I knew for an absolute fact if you see a human being being harmed and you don't know You can intervene now.

That's a very sticky situation because you don't know what happened if you arrive on the scene and one person has a physical edge over another

You don't know what happened.

The person that's getting beat up might have been the original aggressor and they're just getting their butt kicked.

But see, if we had a gated community, we wouldn't have to worry about this.

But I think we should hire Sherita to live in our gated community because she's a shooter.

And once you shoot, this is what I've heard.

Then it's just it's nothing like it's that first time you shoot somebody where you freak out and you panic because most people are not ready For what they see when they fire a weapon at another human being it depends on the gun and the caliber and the range of your target It's usually really disgusting You shoot somebody up close and you're gonna get little bits of like neck

and shoulder, little shoulder skin like splash on your lips.

Ew, I don't want that.

That's disgusting.

And a little bit might go in your mouth.

I don't want shoulder, the only kind of shoulder I want is pork.

You can use or threaten reasonable force to stop an unlawful interference against your person, okay?

Next one is deadly force limit.

You may only use force likely to cause death or great bodily harm if you reasonably believe it is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm.

I think what the message here is, maybe we don't intervene.

But Sharita had to intervene.

Sharita had that thing on her.

What's the point of having a thing on you if you don't let the thing do its thing that thing was banging blackout Oh, I should have asked her what kind of gun Sharita, are you still in the chat?

Can you tell us the kind of firearm that you had?

Did you have a 38?

Did you have a nine millimeter?

I bet it was a nine millimeter.

Did you have a 45?

Did you have a 357 if it was a 357 he ain't got no ankle left So it's easy to find out who this brother is because he walking around with one ankle

Hey dawg, what happened to you?

Man, Cherita shot my ankle off dawg.

I had to get an ankle transplant.

I got a plastic ankle.

Look, here, look, and he'll show it to me.

Look, Sherman, look at my plastic ankle.

And here's what's crazy.

They probably didn't have any black African-American plastic ankles.

He had to get a white one.

So the rest of his leg is black.

It's an African-American leg with a white ankle.

What if he has a Hispanic ankle transplant?

Good God almighty.

Wisconsin self-defense law.

Let's see.

Castle doctrine.

If someone makes an unlawful or forcible entry into your dwelling motor vehicle or business, the law presumes you have a reasonable reasonable belief of danger and you do not have a duty to retreat.

This does not apply if you are engaging in criminal activity.

Public spaces and duty to retreat.

Wisconsin is not is not a traditional stand your ground state for public areas.

Oh, we might be on to something here.

Courts may consider whether you could safely retreat when deciding if your use of force was necessary.

Okay.

Provocation.

If you start a fight or engage in.

unlawful behavior that provokes an attack.

You generally cannot claim self-defense.

You can only regain the right to self-defense if you try, in good faith, to withdraw from the conflict and give clear notice to the other person or if the counter-attack puts your life in imminent danger and you have no other way to escape.

What?

So if you start a fight or engage in unlawful behavior that provokes an attack, so you can't be the aggressor.

It says if you do that, if you provoke the attack, if you start it, you can't claim self-defense.

You can only regain the right to self-defense if you try in good faith to withdraw from the conflict and give clear notice to the other person.

Here's what would happen.

You provoke somebody.

They're mad.

You got them mad.

They're ready to fight you.

You say, Hey, stop it.

I don't want to fight you even though you provoked them.

So that's you trying in good faith to withdraw from the conflict and you give clear notice to the other person.

So you provoke them, you withdraw.

You say, Hey, if you come after me again, I'm going to shoot you.

So that's you giving notice.

Or if the counter attack puts your life in imminent danger and you have no other way to escape so you can provoke somebody and threaten somebody, then you can pull back.

And then this person is already mad because you started it.

You provoked them and you tell them, hey, you better leave me alone or I'm going to shoot you.

And they say, screw you.

And they continue to come after you, even though you started the fight and you provoked them, you tried to pull back and you gave notice that you're pulling back.

And if they continue to attack you because you started it, now you can shoot them.

Oh, that's not good.

But don't be like Sherita.

Or maybe be like Sherita because I'm giving her a job doing security at the gated community.

We don't even really need to interview her.

She her resume is her criminal background Say, yeah, I shot him.

I'm a good shot, too I hit that ankle an ankle cuz I have little dainty ankles.

I would show you guys but She blew his ankle up this she's saying the YouTube chat what kind of gun she had she read what kind of gun did you have?

Take a break come back bottom line is If you're gonna shoot somebody

Don't but if okay if you provoke somebody don't but if you provoke them and say I'm sorry I didn't mean to provoke you and you tell the person that you provoke to leave

alone and they don't leave you alone.

Maybe you can shoot them.

How about this?

Let's just live in a gated community and I would feel safer if Sherita was our security.

That's her blowing the smoke off the barrel of her gun.

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So okay, we're gonna

have

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Serena be security in the gated community.

She's a shooter.

I guess you can't.

You can't intervene.

But the law would have you believing that you can.

Maybe she didn't use proportional force because if the man was just using fists, but that should have been argued in court.

It's a hell of a risk if you take it to a jury because you never know what kind of jury you're gonna get in Milwaukee County But if you get a majority of women on a jury I'm just thinking practically and logically and juries are not always practical and logical Yeah, what's 12 people in the jury get six women

Three of whom may have been victims of domestic violence at any point in their lives maybe more like four of the six may have Witnessed or been victims of domestic violence at best you get a hung jury and then you're acquitted basically I Don't know that sounds reasonable to me but also do you want to put yourself in that kind of situation where you have your concealed carry because your firearm May not always

Be protecting you you might intervene in a situation where someone is helpless and if we take Sharita at her word that this woman was unconscious and getting stomped out Well, you got to do something and also know about our modern society people would rather film they would rather record Then actually intervene and that makes sense though too because if you intervene on behalf of someone that you don't know you might put yourself in danger as well

See this is what I was talking about earlier if people don't feel safe take the situation aside if you generally don't feel safe and you decide that getting a firearm will help your personal subjective feeling of safety and You do all the right things and you have a concealed carry permit and you carry your firearm and you see someone who is being hurt harmed or being victimized

You have a decision to make because you immediately can stop that threat to that other person, but also know that there are risks.

I've talked about this before, even if you believe you're shooting somebody and.

Complete and total self-defense like they're harming you they're still gonna arrest you.

They're still gonna take your gun You're still gonna get booked.

You know, you're still gonna need a lawyer because self-defense is not often established at that moment Now in some cases it is there was a situation happened in Milwaukee a couple of weeks ago I think Homer and Bailey talked about it where there was a woman who was having a problem with this fella and she had reported this fella to the police a number of times so there was an actual record of her

Calling the police and saying that she was harassed by this fellow and if I'm not mistaken She also had a restraining order out on this fellow.

So she had a paper trail.

She had called the police.

There was a record of the calls for service She got a restraining order.

He tried to break into her house.

She shot him

They determined it was self-defense and that woman went to work that morning.

They didn't even take her down to the station for questioning.

In fact, the case didn't even make it to the prosecutor, to the district attorney.

She was able to go to work.

She ain't even missed no work.

Now, I don't know if she killed him or not.

But this is a situation that I'm glad that we have the opportunity to discuss.

And there's probably other folks that might have.

Similar situations where you may have intervened and gotten yourself in trouble or maybe you intervened and nothing happened whatsoever You can use or threaten reasonable force to stop an unlawful interference against your person this is key rules of Wisconsin self-defense statute 939 dot 48

Deadly force limit you may only use force likely to cause death or great bodily harm If you reasonably believe it was necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm like this one makes sense Apparently what Sharita said the woman was unconscious I need to know the caliber of the gun so I can determine and ascertain the condition of his ankle.

She might have blew his ankle off Could you imagine this fella?

One leg is three inches shorter than the other because he ain't got no ankle

Or he got a prosthetic ankle.

He got a plastic ankle from from a white woman ankle transplant And it's probably a bad ankle too.

So it squeaks It's not that's not funny Mr. Me one more time says there have been at least four men on women homicide domestic violence related incidents in the past 10 days

For real sports says unfortunately, I'm not helping you can also get killed Trying to save someone else.

I'll call 911, but I'm not risking my life or my loved one is in danger.

It is what it is Yeah, it's it's a bad situation because it believing you're doing the right thing in the moment

Can turn out to be you doing the wrong thing.

Do I think she should have gone to jail?

No But it's almost like are you telling women that they have no defense if a woman sees another woman who is unconscious and getting beat is Our only recourse in that moment just to call 9-1-1 because I wouldn't expect Schreeter to fight that dude You clearly saw or she clearly saw what this fella did to this victim.

I'd like to hear from the victim lady

Sharita you and the victim lady still friend you need to she needed to invite you to Thanksgiving because you you mean you probably saved her life That lady should have contributed to your legal defense fund Sharita Did you start to go fund me Sharita did a whole bunch of people contribute to your legal defense fund like George Zimmerman and like Kyle written house Tell you what don't I'd rather no one shoot anybody but that's

Probably too much to ask.

I'd rather.

Why don't we just remember back when people used to settle disputes with break dancing?

You'd have a break off.

And you would just have some break dancing.

Why can't we settle our disputes like we did back in the day?

Yeah, sucker.

I didn't like what you were saying to me.