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Good morning welcome to the program Thank you all for joining us on what I'm gonna call a monumental moment of historic pedigree in studio.

We have only the third African-American elected governor in American history and I want people to appreciate that in 250 years of this nation there has only been three and With some good luck and great voter turnout.

We will have four first.

Let me let me welcome

Governor Westmore of the great state of Maryland to to Milwaukee governor.

Welcome

lessons.

It's great.

It's great to be back.

It's great to be back

We're so glad you're here because this moment is is is as big as they get and David We're gonna talk about the endorsement from President Barack Obama, which you both share but Governor Moore, let me ask you this Why now and why David Crowley?

Well, you know, it's um, you know, it's interesting because I'm up for reelection and

you know, in 24 days in a wake up too, and people are like, so how are you heading out to Wisconsin?

And I said, it's two reasons.

It's the man, and it's the moment.

This is a true leader.

This is someone who has devoted his entire life to public service.

And you know, one thing I say about David is that he doesn't need a white paper to explain what it is to fight for working families, because that's what he's done his whole life.

That's his background.

He doesn't need a research.

analysis to be able to understand the needs of the people of Wisconsin, because that's who he's always fought for.

And so the chance now to have David serve as the next governor, someone who, you know, who has to focus on being able to drive costs down when we are watching what is happening in Washington DC, which is making life more expensive for all of us, that someone who is going to make sure that he can protect the people of Wisconsin.

when we're watching Washington, DC, that does not seem to be interested in protecting us at all.

And who your governor is, it matters.

And so that's why I am writing for David Crowley to become the next governor of Wisconsin, not just because he would, yes, be only the fourth African-American ever elected governor in the history of this country, but also because it's what the people of Wisconsin need right now.

They need true executive leadership, and that's exactly what he's shown his entire life.

Mr. County Executive, this has been, let's just say an unusual election cycle, and that's putting it mildly.

When you had the conversation with your lovely wife, Erica, and you made the decision to get back in the race, did you think that you would be at such a moment right now where you have Governor Westmore here in town for you, and also an endorsement from Barack

Obama?

So when, no, no, I wouldn't have thought about any of this.

And, you know, at the end of the day, I know that I'm extremely blessed.

I'm glad to have the support of so many folks all across this state because this is about lifting families up.

And when you think about having the endorsement of Governor Westmore as well as, you know, President Barack Obama, it is such an honor because we're talking about one, a president who set a standard, you know, when it came down to serving with integrity.

you know, providing millions of people with health care, providing millions of people with great employment and good paying jobs.

And then you see Governor Westmore representing the new generation of leaders, you know, and I'm trying to join that club, trying to be the next governor of Wisconsin.

And so it is it is absolutely an honor.

And when I think about having those two endorsements, you know, especially today as we travel on across the state of Wisconsin, southeast of Wisconsin, I know with their support, we can win this race in

November.

Governor Moore, can you talk about the

the important specific and unique leadership that governors can provide more specifically.

Democratic governors can provide to their states with Donald Trump being president.

There is a defense that your constituents need that I believe that governors are uniquely qualified to do.

Can you can you talk about that?

And also.

Let our county executive know how important this kind of leadership is in the face of Donald Trump's second term

Lord have mercy.

I'm telling you like and I'm speaking to all Wisconsinites right now It's never mattered more who your governor is ever It's never mattered more because you know, we are seeing how folks in in Washington and to be clear, you know, when I talk about folks in Washington, I'm talking about Congress from Tom Tiffany because he also

has responsibility for the fact that we have bills that we have bills that were passed that are now going to rip people out of healthcare.

He signed on to that.

He co-signed on the fact that we're going to have bills that is going to kick hundreds of thousands of children off of food assistance.

He co-signed on that.

So who your governor is matters because it's not just about our ability to push back against this and this federal administration we're seeing right now.

that governors have a unique chance to push forward and to show what an alternative can actually look like.

Because remember, when a budget gets introduced in a state, who introduces that budget?

The governor.

In order for something to become a law in the state, do you know what it needs?

The governor's signature.

So you need to make sure that you have a fighter on board to be able to do it.

And I have been so humbled by the opportunities that we have had inside of the state of Maryland when we are watching this type of behavior.

this type of corruption that continues to hurt our family, the fact that in our time, in our state, that we have been able to, because you have a governor, like you're going to have with David Crowley, who's able to take these issues seriously, that in our state, despite what has happened on the federal side, we've been actually able to make sure we're protecting people.

from losing their health care.

We've been able to have historic advancements in public education.

We've been able to have amongst the fastest drops in violent crime anywhere in the United States of America inside of the state of Maryland.

That doesn't happen by accident and that's why Wisconsin has a unique opportunity right now to get someone who is a true executive to sit in that executive seat to become the next governor.

Governor Wes Moore of the state of Maryland is in studio along with our Milwaukee County Executive and Democratic nominee for Wisconsin Governor David Crowley.

Mr. County Executive, the difference between campaigning and governing can be quite vast.

Obviously you are on a tour of the state and talking to voters, engaging voters and trying to convince them.

of why your leadership should be the leadership that they select to lead the state.

But then once you get elected, the honeymoon is short, brother.

There's a

lot of work to be done.

How do you make that transition?

And also, I want to follow up by asking Governor Moore the transition between...

having this great optimistic and strong grassroots supporter campaign, and then the tough work of governing, especially amongst Republicans that you all share in your legislature.

So how do you transition, David, from the beauty of the campaign, the poetry even of the campaign, to the prose of governing?

I want to be very clear.

First of all, campaigning is hard.

It takes a lot of work, right?

But that's the easiest part, because governing is even harder.

because you want to make sure that you're actually delivering those lower costs.

That we're going to be able to expand health care so no one falls from the cracks and get the care that they need whenever and wherever they need it.

And so as we are running this campaign, 25 days left until this election, we also have to start thinking about how we're going to govern.

And we've already started having conversations with the different caucuses about what those priorities need to look like because we have to be prepared.

You know, in 16 years, you know, Republicans have had control of this state legislature.

And we think about the past 32 years, Democrats have only had total control for two.

And so we have to make sure that we're not just winning, but that we can prove that we can govern, that we can prove that we can deliver for the 6 million people that call Wisconsin home.

And I'm absolutely looking forward to doing that, but I want to be clear.

We can't do that if people are sitting on the sidelines.

We need everybody to get involved in this game because when you think about a congressman time tiff and him becoming the next governor, I mean, there's absolutely ramifications, not just to those who call Wisconsin home, but throughout this entire country.

We were talking about somebody who's not just been a Trump loyalist, but an election denier.

He voted against certifying the 2020 election.

And so that's not a person you want to become the governor who actually certifies our election when it comes down to the 2028 election.

We got to ultimately defeat this mega agenda in this legacy, but we have to focus on how we're going to actually do that by delivering for the folks who call Wisconsin home and love this

day.

Governor Moore, the pressure in the transition, right?

So you run for office, you ran in 2022, you were successful and tremendous amount of support and everybody is happy for the historic moment.

But then...

You get elected.

Now, everything is your fault.

Hey, I need health care.

Hey, crime is too high in Baltimore.

How do you how do you make that transition from like being celebrated on the campaign trail and this great victory you won?

So now, yeah, no more fun and games.

We got to govern.

Well, I think that, you know, one of the reasons I'm so excited about David is that he's not in this race because he's looking for accolades or or applause.

He's in this race because he wants to make a difference.

And and I think about you know even the answer that he just gave where you know he did not mention you know Democrats or Republicans he didn't mention one side of a state versus another side of the state he mentioned Wisconsin Constantly and that's the type of chief executive that we're gonna need is somebody who is going to make sure that that not only are we seeing everybody and lifting everybody up

But, you know, when I learned in the military, I joined the military, I joined the army when I was 17 years old.

And my background, I had never run for political office before ever before running for governor.

And I told people my background is I was an army officer and I ran a poverty fighting organization.

And we learned something in the military.

That is a statement where they said we leave no one behind.

Ever.

And that is what it means to be a governor.

That is what it means to be a chief executive.

that when you get into that seat, you are absolutely right.

You got the keys now.

Every single, and I always say about governors, if you haven't dealt with a tragedy or a crisis, just give it a second, yours is coming.

Because every one of us is going to deal with it.

And at the same time though, the way that you have to approach it is the way that executives approach it, the way he's approached it as kind of executive is saying, we focus on making sure we're leaving no one behind.

We focus on making sure we can grow an economy that everyone can participate in.

We focus on making sure we're bringing costs down for people so we can make life more sustainable.

We focus on making sure we are pushing back against the work that we're seeing of this Trump administration instead of being its cheerleaders.

We focus on making sure we're protecting our people.

In his case, Wisconsinites, in my case, Marylanders.

We are going to protect our people.

And that's why I think that there is nobody who is more qualified and ready.

to go into that seat in the Wisconsin State House than we have in David Crowley.

Mr. County Executive, I said to my listeners yesterday I was going to ask you a question that is not often asked of people who are running for high political office.

I know when you travel the state and you're hearing from all sorts of folks, they want to know what you can do for them.

How can you bring down costs?

How can you make life more affordable?

How can you bring some common sense back to our government?

People are always asking you what you can do for them.

I want to ask you, what do you need from us?

As someone who was running for governor right now and the the history of this moment is larger than I can even comprehend you tell us what you need from us

Well, I'm gonna just be honest like the historical moment is not lost on me You know, but that's not why I'm in this race it's about delivering for the people who call this place home And so when you think about what we need I want to be very clear.

I am not just running against

you know, a mega extremist in Congressman Tom Tiffany.

I'm running against three billionaires that are bankrolling his entire campaign.

He has received more than 34 million dollars since January to spend against me.

And if you add up all the other dollars with the shadowy groups and outside spenders, it's about 60 billion that's being spent already.

And so we know that we're not going to be able to fund raise that amount of money.

We know that they're going to continue to spend, but we win this race.

by giving our time, by giving our talents, and by giving our treasure to a campaign of this magnitude to make sure that everybody is going to have an opportunity to get ahead.

And so we need people to knock on doors, make phone calls, talk to family, friends.

You know, whenever you're in a barbershop or in a grocery store, get people out to vote.

Talk to them about what's at stake.

You know, how can you use your talents, your social media presence, to let people know what is actually going on and then help us compete?

If you can give $2, $5, $10 here and there, that helps us get us over the finish line.

Because I want to be very clear, it's not just about getting me elected.

I need a legislature to actually work with to actually get the job done.

And so the more and more we can elect Democrats in the assembly, in the Senate, because Republicans have had total control.

That makes it easier to make sure that when that tide rise, all the boats rise.

And so I encourage everybody to visit our website at CrowleyforWI.com.

You can see us on different social media platforms.

Get involved.

You can't sit on a sideline.

We have to get on the offense, but we can't do it if we keep responding and reacting only to Donald Trump and Republicans.

And the only way to get on the offense is to show up to the ballot box.

And so early voting starts on October 20th.

We know absentee voting has already started.

So if you have your ballot, please mail that in as soon as possible.

You don't want to wait too long because we know how the Trump administration is slowing down the mail.

And so we have to make sure that we don't have any excuse on why we didn't get our voice heard on November

3rd.

I want to make this point very loud and clear.

They're going to challenge the results of this election.

We need to overwhelm these votes.

so that there's literally nothing to challenge.

I know that the last 10 or so years, going back to when Hillary Clinton was a Democratic nominee in 16, that election was decided by less than 30,000 votes.

The election of Tony Evers in 18, 25, 30,000 votes.

The reelection of Ron Johnson, our MAGA extremist US senator.

when he defeated Mandela Barnes, 27,000 votes, that margin is too close considering all that is at stake.

So register, vote, bring your friends, your family, your nieces, your nephews, post on social media because these numbers need to be so far outside of the potential margins that they have nothing that they can try and challenge.

Governor Moore, there's some similarities between

Wisconsin and Maryland, Milwaukee and Baltimore.

In fact, I've been to Baltimore before in the inner harbor, which is beautiful, reminds me a lot of Milwaukee's lakefront.

But in the two respective states, you have large urban areas that sometimes deal with urban area problems.

You all in Maryland have dealt with some of those urban problems, the education of young people and even crime and have made some monumental strides.

So first.

How and then also as a governor that is a current county executive that deals with and sees the problems right here in our large urban center of Milwaukee.

The power that you have as governor to make a real impact on urban areas that need that impact is monumental.

So what's the secret sauce?

Yeah, well, you know, honestly, the secret sauce is partnership.

And you know, it's funny because when I first became the governor of Maryland.

I was very clear.

I was like, listen, it can only be Maryland's decade if it's Baltimore's time.

And people were like, well, of course he'd say that he's a Homer, you know what I'm saying?

Like that's where he's from.

And I was like, no, I said it because I'm really good at math.

You know what I mean?

It's our state's largest city.

And so tell me a single state in the country that's clicking on all cylinders when its largest city is not.

And mathematically, it's impossible, right?

And so we have gone in and made historic investments.

in Baltimore and created partnerships with our mayor, partnerships with our local officials.

When we said that we had to get, for example, we said we had to get the issue of violence and we had to address it.

The year before I became the governor, Baltimore City was averaging almost a homicide a day.

A city of less than 600,000 people averaging almost homicide a day.

So we said, there is no way I'm going to spend eight years giving eulogies.

Not a shot.

We are going to do what it takes to be able to bring this violence down.

So we said we're going to focus on both investing in local law enforcement and making sure that a person commits a violent crime, particularly with a firearm, I'm going to have them handcuffed for 24 hours.

But also we invested in community violence interrupters.

We invested in people that were coming back home from incarceration.

I signed the largest mass pardon in the history of the United States of America when I pardoned over 175,000 misdemeanor cannabis convictions because we had people who had a misdemeanor cannabis conviction from the 1990s who could not get a student loan.

or barbers license.

And so by being able to work with the community, the violent crime rate in the state of Maryland as a whole is now down nearly 60%.

The last time the homicide rate was this low in Baltimore City, I wasn't born yet.

Those are the kind of numbers we're seeing.

Same thing with job growth, same thing with population growth.

We are watching numbers right now that are moving in ways that we have not seen literally in a generation, and it's because we're actually choosing to work together.

And so I think that's going to be one of the powerful things that you're going to be able to see with the county executive when he becomes the governor.

The county executive doesn't need instructions on where, on what is going on in so many communities.

He lives it.

He doesn't need, he does not, you know, he doesn't need a, you know, a map quest to figure out how to, you know, where neighborhoods are, because he lives it.

And that is something powerful that I think we're seeing inside of the state of Maryland, where you cannot look at the growth that we've had in our state, economic growth, population growth, down in public safety, numbers down in public safety, numbers up in public education, without understanding that you need to have a governor, like you're gonna have here in Wisconsin,

who doesn't just know the people.

He sees the people.

And he's working with all of us to make us better.

Allow me to use the dirty word, gentlemen.

I know I shouldn't do it.

I have to do it.

I can only make my point by using this dirty word.

Bipartisanship.

Governor Moore, how hard is it in these days and times of all the extremes in our politics to work with Republicans?

And I say this because...

Number 47 has made a multi-billion dollar investment in Maryland with I believe shipbuilding which has got to be a Welcome situation, but the person that it's coming from makes it very very difficult.

I guess how do you get over?

the personal attacks and the disrespect and got to push all that aside and there are opportunities however few and far between where you can actually work with Republicans and they do deliver resources home like how do you walk that line because if you if you smile too much in the Donald Trump photo op

Right.

And

then your own side will accuse you of being too cozy.

So I guess in part to our county executive and hopefully our next governor, how do you walk that fine line of working with Republicans in a common sense way in hyper partisan times?

You know, I think that when I think about what people want from me as the chief executive, they want me to be a fighter.

But not that doesn't mean I fight with everybody.

It means I fight for them.

in any way that I need to.

And I think about it in the context where, you know, in the military, you know, when I served in Afghanistan with the 82nd Airborne Division, and I always say, I never once asked my soldiers, what's your political party?

Never once.

Like, we have one job, one mission, one goal.

We go out there, we do our thing, we bring everybody home, right?

And I think about how in Maryland, for example,

That for all the bills that we have introduced and I and we've gotten passed in Maryland since I've been the governor, you know 97% of them have been passed bipartisan Democrat and Republican supports and so the the approach that I'm really excited for David's leadership is this is as a county executive He understands how to get things done across the aisle You know and you know in fairness he is he is running against somebody congressman Tom Tiffany has

voted with Donald Trump 100% of the time.

I don't know how you agree with anybody 100% of time.

I don't agree with myself 100%.

You know what I mean?

But it's like, I don't understand how you can be so subservient, particularly when the policies that are being passed are hurting the people of your community.

And so I think that, you know, the fact that I, you know, whether it was leading soldiers overseas,

whether it was running a poverty fighting organization, or I think about in the case of David, where it's being a county executive of a jurisdiction that has both Democrats and Republicans in it.

We know how to get things done across the aisle because we never forget who it is that we're supposed to be fighting for.

And I don't do this job because I'm trying to curry favor with a person.

I do this job because God has given us the opportunity to be able to

serve the people in our jurisdictions.

And I know that's the exact same type of approach that David's going to bring.

Governor Westmore of Maryland is in studio as is our Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley the Democratic nominee for Wisconsin governor David I know when you travel around the state you'll go to some very very red areas because I know you know the math of some of the counties that you're in and they'll say David I'm don't tell nobody but I'm gonna vote for you

as you travel

around the state affordability is hurting everybody yeah it's hurting Democrats is hurting Republicans it's hurting independents Democratic Socialists do you

believe that because affordability is such a big issue, everything is more expensive.

Groceries and gas and it's going to be expensive to heat our homes this upcoming winter.

Do you think that that gives you the ability to step even further into bipartisanship because both Democratic and Republican constituents and voters are hurting equally?

And also, you have a history of working across the aisle to get stuff done that makes sense.

Do you feel comfortable in being able to do that if you get elected?

I mean, I'm a creature of this legislature.

You know, I remember when I served, we were so deep in the minority, we were only two seats away from them having a, they were two seats away from having a super majority.

I remember when we couldn't take a vacation, right, when you're in session because you want to make sure that you have those numbers.

And so when I think about my success running the largest county, the largest and the most democratic county that we have in the state, right?

All of my success has come through a Republican control legislature.

You know sure when you've heard me say and many people have no one cares what you know until they know how much you care And we have to continue to build those relationships because whether you live in in in Boston, Wisconsin or Marshfield or Warsaw, Milwaukee or Racine, Beloit We're all facing the same issues Our job is to eliminate the cycle of poverty the cycle of trauma in this state and the only way to do that is by working together and so for me

I'm willing to work with anyone and everyone who wants to have a seat at the table to make sure that we're delivering the results.

We can't continue to make promises and not actually do what we're going to do.

And so I believe in my ability.

And as we've been traveling, what's been great is the amounts of disaffected Republicans and independents who have come out to show their support to say, we are rejecting Tom Tiffany and this mega extreme agenda.

And that's what we need people to really understand that this is much bigger than me.

This is about making sure that our children, our grandchildren, can actually see a future that they can afford in this state.

Well, I love Maryland.

I don't want Wisconsinites leaving to go to Baltimore, right?

Like, I want to make sure that they stay right here in the state of Wisconsin, here, you know, where they grew up.

It could, you know, be able to afford their own home.

And so, you know, but I will tell you this, my goal is not to have a bipartisan, you know, legislature.

I'm working extremely hard to get that trifecta, to make sure that

Democrats are rowing in the right direction because it's not just about me, it's about making sure that we have something to prove to this state.

And so, you know, I look forward to working in a bipartisan manner because we also have to show Republicans in many of these rural areas that I'm not looking just to be a governor for Democrats.

I'm looking to be a governor for all of us to make sure that we understand that we need one another.

Yes, it's great being the economic engine of the state, being the largest community.

But I need every single farmer.

I need every single manufacturer outside of Southeastern Wisconsin because we need one another.

That's how we grow our economy and that's how we grow prosperity for every kid, every person, no matter their zip code or what their last name may be.

Last question to both of you.

Mr. County Executive, let's say that people are fed up and they turn out and you win.

Twenty years from now, when we look back on this very moment,

What do you want people in the state of Wisconsin?

What do you want historians to say that you changed when you got elected governor of the state of Wisconsin?

You know What the first and foremost I want I want people to change their perception of how government is supposed to serve I want to make sure that People say you know what our state model is forward and that's exactly where David took us that David made sure that we fully funded our public schools

that David made sure that we had criminal justice reform.

That David made sure that women continue to have access to the reproductive freedoms.

Honestly, it's not about being known for something.

I really want to just do good work.

I just want to be able to let a kid who grew up in the same situations as myself, whether they're in an urban center or a world center, look at me and say, you know what, I can write a story just like that.

that they can see themselves in me and say, you know what, my future does not have to be determined as far as where I come from.

And I think that that's what's more important for me, is making the state of Wisconsin the state of choice, no matter where you live in this country.

You can live on the East Coast, you can live on the West Coast, you can live on the Gulf Coast, but I want you to leave all those coasts that come to the Fresh Coast, right here next to Lake Michigan, where, you know,

We're Midwest nice is known, but Wisconsin is much different

Governor more 20 years from now.

What do you want folks to say that you changed?

positively for Maryland and also

In 2032, when you enter your hat in the ring, say, I don't want to rush you into 2032.

Because I see a 2032 ticket now, but I'll talk about that when you all leave.

OK?

Y'all

going

to be going out to the studio when I talk about this 2032 ticket.

But what do you want people to say that you did, you changed for Marylanders?

I want them to say that we are unafraid to go out to the big problems.

That we don't kick hands on roads.

And we don't go out to things because they're easy.

We go out to things because they're necessary.

You know, when we talked about the issue of violence, I mean, people told us that, like, be careful with this one, because people have not figured this out in 30, 40 years.

You know, we're watching 300-plus homicides in Baltimore, and it wasn't that it was just... The pain wasn't even piercing anymore.

It was just chronic.

Like, people expected it when you watched the kind of violence that our economy had flatlined.

And people are like, careful how much you talk about growing an economy and all this stuff because they're like, it's hard.

And I say, yeah, but we do hard things.

We're going to go after hard things.

When people talk about the issue of poverty, I'm so happy that I heard this brother talk about poverty.

I mean, like, poverty is my why.

We have got to end child poverty in this society.

And when people say, careful how you do it because it's difficult, and they say, I understand that.

But if we're not here to do difficult things, then what's the point?

We'll

find something else to do.

And so I want for people to know that in this time, whether we were talking about issues of getting our economy going, which we are now doing, we'd have over 17 billion dollars of private investment now in the state of Maryland since I've become the governor.

We're watching a job growth rate in Maryland that is now almost double the national average.

Like we do hard things.

We do hard things like public safety.

We do hard things like making sure that we can get child care for the people of our state.

The other thing that I want people to know is this, is right now I am the only black governor in America.

That is not a title that I want to hold on to for very long.

In Wisconsin, y'all have a chance on November 3rd to rip that title out of my hands and I will gleefully give it away and never talk about it again.

Because this is not just going to be about how Wisconsin has the opportunity to make history.

This is about how Wisconsin has a chance to vote for somebody who sees all of them.

And that's why I'm here to support my friend, David Crowley.

Governor Westmore of Maryland.

Thank you so much for being here and helping us create history and of course our beloved Milwaukee County executive and my former state representative David Crowley We're gonna do everything that we can and I'm gonna make sure that people know that you will deliver on behalf of the people of the state of Wisconsin Crowley for w i.com Crowley for w i.com

is the website.

Gentlemen, thank you so very much.

Godspeed to you both.

And Governor Moore, we'll see you here in 2031.

And just if you want

to, you know what I mean?

If you just want to come visit.

These electoral votes in Wisconsin is important

now.

All right.

Obviously, good being back.

And I will be back.

Hey, I will say this.

You give me a leg that he'll be back a lot more.

Thank you so much.

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everybody on the floor just pause somebody in the middle just move get on down to the

So Xavier tells

me that this song that's playing right here is the most popular song in Baltimore,

right?

This is one of the most popular dance songs in Maryland history, Doodoo Brown.

So Xavier wanted to play this as the governor is entering, and I was like, maybe we should play Doodoo Brown later.

We'll wait until after we conduct the interview and then we'll play Marilyn's most popular dance song So I don't know how you all interpreted that conversation, but That was monumental or just how effortless it was for Governor Moore to Talk about so glowingly talk about our Milwaukee County executive and why he is here Governor Moore is running for reelection himself right now.

He's literally campaigning for his own reelection to

be governor for another term in the state of Maryland, but took time to come here and to support David Crowley.

And it was such an incredible conversation.

I actually learned a tremendous amount.

And I've been working in government essentially my entire career, but I think I learned more in this last 30 plus minute conversation I might have learned in the last 20 plus years.

It's also good to know that.

David Crowley could lean on the successes of Westmore and.

I hope he didn't overstate.

I think he actually understated the amount of progress that they have made in Baltimore Baltimore worse than Milwaukee in every measurable category and I know that's very difficult for us to comprehend a place that is worse than this because we love to complain about how bad Milwaukee is.

They turn that city around unlike any other governor.

has been able to do with Baltimore because Baltimore has always been the problem child and now they've got job creation and an economy that's outpacing the national average their homicides are down their children are being educated even at a higher level than they are in Milwaukee and they had a poor public school system there too ladies and gentlemen it can get done I don't think I've ever been more motivated for a particular political campaign or candidate than I am right now this is a monumental moment especially to be able to sit in this studio with those two men

Was really something that is not lost on me and I hope it's not lost on any of you either because I didn't want to Break up our conversation to take any commercial break.

I couldn't do it X. I had to keep talking I want the conversation to flow.

So here's what we're gonna do We're gonna do another little commercial break.

I'm gonna come back and I would love to get your feedback on the conversation Was there anything that should learn was there's some things that?

We're encouraging for you.

Are you ready and motivated to go and cast your ballot?

And I really hope you do.

Everything is on the table, ladies and gentlemen.

Every time you go to the store and buy something, every time you put gas in your car, you are being negatively impacted, not just by this president, but Tom Tiffany, who has voted with Donald Trump 100% of the time.

And I like what Governor Morris said.

Governor Morris said he doesn't even agree with himself 100% of the time.

The kind of loyalty and fealty I'm gonna call it that Tom Tiffany has to Donald Trump will absolutely destroy the state of Wisconsin We got a Democratic governor right now in Tony Evers who has been an incredible stopgap and protecting us from some of the worst impulses of Donald Trump and our Attorney General Josh Call who's up for reelection.

He's running against a Trump's loving MAGA supporter

In Eric Tony, so we have had two very strong Democrats and Tony Evers and Josh Call that have protected us in Wisconsin from some of Donald Trump's worst instincts and we have the ability to continue with that protection by electing David Crowley and re-electing Josh Call to be Attorney General.

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Make sure you join us on the YouTube search 101 7 the truth on YouTube hit subscribe you'll be able to see the Live in studio camera and also participate in the YouTube chat Read a couple of comments Al says I hope Wisconsin is paying attention to that that was truly one of the most inspired conversations.

I heard from the policy

All right now, I'm inspired to I just I know voters in this state I know How we are sometimes and we cannot afford for this election to be close.

They're already planning how they're going to

You know, mix stuff up and have people thinking that some fraud was being created.

Do we still really believe that people are double and triple voting other than the Republicans who are just about the only ones that ever get convicted for it?

You guys know that the majority of the people that get convicted for voter fraud are actually Republicans.

Imagine that.

At the end of the day, it's probably one of the dumbest felonies you can get.

If you're going to get a felony, you know what I mean?

Go big.

Don't vote twice.

Imagine you get sent off state.

to a Department of Corrections facility and they ask you what you in for.

Somebody said, murder.

Oh, wow.

What you in for?

Double, double bank robbery, robbery, double, double, double homicide.

Ooh.

Well, what are you in for?

I knocked off 17 liquor stores.

Oh.

What about you, Steven?

What are you in for?

I voted twice.

Yep.

voted for Tom Tiffany two times and now I'm I mean here Where my worst enemy

is gravity because I don't want to drop any soap Imagine gravity being your worst and I take another break just get started

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And like a flash of lightning, it seems to me that this moment has automatically become larger than the election that looms 24 days from today.

Xavier, I would like to get your take because you are probably one of the most honestly critical people about American politics, right?

You always find.

the uncomfortable and sometimes inconvenient truths about folks that are running for public office because I know you do your research.

You do research with an emphasis on finding dirt.

Yeah.

Your thoughts on the conversation that we were both just a part of?

Very historic, by the way.

No, it was a great conversation that we had.

There was some meat left on the bone talking about some of his accomplishments, but I understand we were here for David.

He was just the surrogate for him.

But you know you want to know what I know my opinion of Governor Moore.

Is that what you this is that what

you

overall sure Overall, I think he's actually angling to run in 2028.

That's why he's here in Wisconsin

You think he's gonna run that soon.

Yes, I was you know, I do my research and I was just watching his His debate with you know, his opponent just two days ago

And he wouldn't commit to saying that he would not run in 2028.

So I think he's here in Wisconsin just to, you know, wet his feet and, you know, familiarize himself with the Wisconsin people.

I think he's doing a good job of that.

So I said 2032 to because I even very well may throw his hat in the ring because I quite not quite honestly right now.

I think the Westmore would probably be the most on paper qualified individual that the Democrats have to offer.

And some might argue with that.

But I didn't want to make it seem like he is here to familiarize himself with the battleground state of Wisconsin and the people of Milwaukee because he wants to run for president in 2028 But I actually would be okay with it if I look at the the accomplishments that he was able to stack up in Maryland Baltimore included because Baltimore is so similar to Milwaukee've ever been number four There's a real similar feeling like the people are the same like the cultures are very very similar if you ever go to the inner harbor

of Baltimore, it looks a lot like our McKinley Marina.

It's very, very familiar kind of surroundings and settings in Baltimore, and they had a lot of social problems.

In fact, I would say they might have had even more than us.

We're concerned about Brady Street and Water Street and homicides.

Like, multiply that times too, and that's what Baltimore was, and the fact that he was able to put together some kind of a formula.

And it wasn't just Governor Moore, of course, working with the legislature and working with partners and stakeholders, which he did say,

During this conversation, they're working with partners is very important.

In fact, it's paramount.

No governor, no elected official can do it on their own.

Like we, we need that kind of recovery in the United States because like I said a couple of days ago, I don't even think we know how bad it actually is in this country.

There's a lot of things that are taking place and transpiring and a lot of confidence in our government has been eroded under Donald Trump and that stuff doesn't come back easily.

And whenever elect officials do something, it might be a necessary evil.

It's even dramatically more unpopular when people don't have a lot of trust in government.

I would say that the timing of our city council members and our mayor and others giving themselves raises terrible timing.

But in order to raise the salaries of other city employees, that's the way it's written.

That's the way the.

Charter is written everybody has to get a raise to give the people that are working in city government to make $20,000 a year a raise and there are people that work in city government deep down in some of these bureaucracies that only make 20 $25,000 a year that is not enough money for anyone problem is legislation needs to be created so that

Folks who are on the lower end of the income scale as far as city workers go where they can get a raise without pushing the mayor's salary over 185 thousand dollars a year Let me also say this That is a CEO position I know we don't see it as that because we think that our elected officials should work for free And we see government is something that people should do just because you know you want to serve and you want to help people

Milwaukee is a corporation and Cavalier Johnson is the CEO of that corporation now I want you to do a real comparison I want you to compare What CEOs of private companies and corporations make compared to what CEOs of first-class class-day cities make Cavalier Johnson is making 95 98% less than them and I know that doesn't

Really move anybody's needle to support the mayor making close to $200,000 a year.

But the job is not easy because everything that happens in the city happens to be the mayor's fault.

Let's talk to James.

You're on one on one seven.

The truth.

How are you, James?

All right, it was going on service.

Look at it.

Look here, man.

Um, I know you feel a big deal about this, but don't but I don't mean to brush your bubble.

But and I get it.

I get it.

You got to kind of roll further.

the less of two needles, but I see rolling quality in, man.

Did you really think anything would change for you, me, anybody in the county of Milwaukee?

Honestly?

Yes.

What, what, what, what, what have we done?

I'm not, here's the thing, because we've had this conversation before, and I think the last time we talked, I told you not to vote.

Here's the thing with some folks, and especially in our community.

Because they want so much and they take so little responsibility for actually improving their own lives Nothing is ever gonna be good enough

for them

if you think that all the garbage is gonna be picked up You think the people gonna stop shooting each other if you think the crime is automatically gonna go away, brother You are disillusion, but what can happen is the gas tax can be repealed what can happen is the economy can be Can be more striving and more robust more resources can be brought to the city of Milwaukee because in previous Incarnations of the legislature Milwaukee has been

and when you starve this city, which has been an intentional tactic by the Republicans.

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Welcome to our two of the truth with Sherwin Hughes not that I wanted to cut the previous caller off, but

He's called before.

Listen, if you... For some people, let me be honest, your life ain't gonna get no better.

Some of y'all are doomed.

I just got to say it.

And if you believe that an election or a person or a legislature is going to make up for many, many years of your bad choices and terrible decisions, and you living in the consequences of those decisions, that's not what elected officials do.

What we want them to do is clear barriers for folks who are struggling and working hard.

who are doing everything they're supposed to do, who are not running a file of the law, who pick up garbage when it's on the ground, who have respect for their neighbors, who are generally decent human beings.

We want government to work better for them.

There's some folks that are so far gone, they have no hope left.

There's some folks that are so far gone, church ain't even helping them.

And it's those folks that think, oh sure, when voting for so-and-so, if so-and-so gets elected, ain't nothing gonna change for me.

You're 100% right.

It's an interesting dynamic because we don't listen to anybody.

We don't take advice from anybody People refuse guidance.

They refuse mentorship.

They don't listen to people who are trying to steer them in the right path Yet at the same time

You know if I vote for somebody that's not gonna matter You're right because people that are in your life and in your family been trying to steer you in the right direction Right an election is not gonna change anything for you and those people are out there and maybe those are some of the folks that never voted in elections because here's the unfortunate thing even if we get record turnout in this upcoming election whether it be early voting that if I'm not mistaken starts in 11 days October 20th The election itself is Tuesday

November 3rd, even if we get record turnout, 45% of the people that are eligible to vote are going to stay home.

That's record turnout if we get 55% turnout.

We get 60%.

65% would be unheard of.

If we get 65% voter turnout, I'll buy everybody in the city hot dog.

And I'm comfortable in making that bet because I doubt we get 65% voter turnout.

And I also know this much when voter turnout is high, it usually favors the incumbent or the incumbent party.

We have a lot of untapped potential in our community and I try to talk about it as often as I can.

A lot of untapped intelligence, a lot of untapped work ethic and I think if those things are released,

We could make some substantial improvements in our trajectory as a people, as a city, as a state.

Another place where we have a lot of untapped potential is at the ballot box.

Like this one is going to fall on us because voter turnout, when we talk about it, it's usually the African-American community.

And I don't know how much worse things need to get.

Now, hold on.

Let me be clear, because some of y'all are saying, well, sure, because that's how you say it.

Well, sure when Milwaukee is in very bad shape right now and David Crowley is the county executive He is one person You know that we have 48 circuit court judges Some of them will let release somebody an hour after they just shot somebody on the street.

You know that we have 18

Milwaukee County board supervisors, I bet you don't even know some of these supervisors names You can't just put it on one person and then you have we have a mayor We have a police chief and a sheriff 15 members of the common council and then that's just the government people You know who really makes the difference we can really make the substantial improvements us, but we don't want to do that.

I Think that's where a lot of our laziness shows

If individual people just did a little bit better, you wouldn't even need to lean on these elected officials.

But because we don't even want to pick up garbage in front of our house, we got to have neighborhood cleanups because we even outsource our own cleanliness.

It's just infuriating when we always blame somebody else, but that's just a lack of overall responsibility.

But you hear that coming from people all the time.

Everything is always somebody else's fault.

Because when you can point the finger at somebody else you can make yourself look like the victim and get unnecessary and unearned sympathy Now I expect that from

them

I Do not expect that from us because there's something very specific and unique about being black ain't nobody giving you nothing

You got to earn everything.

You have to out earn everything to some time still just be at zero.

That's just a part of it.

But our victories are so much sweeter because guess what?

Nobody gives us anything.

They don't give us respect, decency, fairness, honor, justice.

We don't get any of that.

All of that we have to go get and create for ourselves.

All of that we have to earn.

We earn it.

It belongs to us.

But I also think that this country has done a number on us.

We are a conquered people.

But once you realize that and once you realize who wants to keep us in this position, then you begin to wake up a little bit.

They want us saying that nothing is going to change.

They want us thinking that our vote doesn't matter.

Let me just take a moment on this because this is very important.

If our votes didn't matter, why are they trying so hard to make it difficult?

That's number one number two if they truly honestly in their heart of hearts Believe that black people were less than if they truly believe that we were inferior.

They really believe that Then it shouldn't matter what resources and what opportunities black people get follow me now

If they really believe what they say about how we are a lower order of being, then you can give black folks everything and we would still fail.

You could give us a great education.

You can give us fully resourced communities.

You could give us everything.

If they really believe that we were ill-equipped to be successful, then they would give us everything and it wouldn't make any bit of difference.

But here's what they know and they understand.

All you gotta do is give us a little bit.

All you got to do is open the door this little bit let a little beam of light come through that crack in that door let a little bit of hope seeping and we will become governors and we will become presidents and we will positively change the lives not just of our people but of everybody and I think that's what gets lost in our politics and if you're a conservative and if you're a Republican which a lot of whom have been listening to my show because they're the only ones that are commenting on my Instagram post

The people you vote for don't care about you one bit.

You're a fool if you think Trump cares.

Trump told you he looked you in your face and said no more forever wars and looked you right back in your face and started one.

Donald Trump said that things were too expensive under Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

He was going to make things more affordable.

He lied in your face again.

He does not care.

You know what Donald Trump said?

That the affordability crisis is a Democrat hoax.

You know, it's not a hoax when you look in your wallet You ever look in your wallet and it's so empty if somebody in your wallet looking back at you saying I don't know what you're looking at me for You ever have no food in the refrigerator.

You'd be real hungry And then you just go back and look in the refrigerator 20 minutes later like something's gonna magically appear Am I the only one that does that I have zero food in my house I'll have just to box the bacon soda because you got to put the bacon soda in the refrigerator.

I'll be I'm hungry.

Oh wait Cuz when I'm hungry, I talked to myself

I sure am hungry and you go to the refrigerator and ain't nothing in there but a scarecrow and a bat a bat flies out Damn I ain't got nothing in the refrigerator and then you go sit back down watch TV

And then like you forgot you just went to the refrigerator seven minutes ago Let me go see what I got in the refrigerator and you opened up and there's the same bat flying around as you saw seven minutes ago That's not a lie There are people that legitimately cannot afford to live and Donald Trump thinks that's a hoax You can't lie to people if they're broke the most honest somebody is ever going to be is when they have no money because you can't fake being broke

You can try The people that Conservatives voted

for because they wanted Individuals punished they wanted the people that receive whatever the hell DEI is an affirmative action You wanted those people punished you wanted the migrants punished because you know they came over here I guess without permission or whatever and they're doing a bunch of jobs that you passed up

And so you wanted those people punished and this is basically what it boils down to that's why it's so difficult for me to talk to a conservative Republican that still believes in this current regime You voted out of spite you voted for hate

You're hated too Some of y'all are broker than some of us

When you vote for hate, what do you think you are going to get?

Now there are some people that might feel a little bit better that migrants are being deported and that DEI and affirmative action have been made illegal and Unconstitutional etc.

But how does that put food on your table?

How does that put more money in your wallet?

How does that make gas prices and diesel prices less expensive?

It doesn't is it worth it?

Now here's the thing about folks like David and it's not just him Democrats sometimes they care too much and I get mad at Democrats because they'd be a little too soft for me I want them to have a little bit more of a hard edge be a little mean and nasty, but Democrats I don't even think it's in them.

Oh Sure when we

We got to help this person.

They just shot at you.

I know but Well, they missed I want to help

them.

I'm not one of them bleeding heart liberals.

I'm jaded I've turned cold because I understand politics now better understand the people that are in it But they're legitimately our people that want to help folks regardless of where they live in regardless

of what they look like.

And ladies and gentlemen, as much as this may hurt some of you to hear it, it is the only way we can achieve the kind of society that we can be proud of.

When everybody has a fair shot and when your talents and your merits can realize your full potential.

And why you gotta worry about somebody else?

Why do white folks get mad when black folks are doing things and accomplishing things?

Because here's the thing, when we do things and accomplish things and become successful, all we're gonna do is buy more stuff from y'all.

You should wanna support black folks.

You open up a business in our community, we'll buy it.

Buy everything y'all sell.

As opposed to the opposite, when resources are starved and opportunity is not extended, now you're scared to come to Milwaukee because of the crime.

There's a way that we can mitigate that by people getting out of their own way and more importantly, getting out of the way of somebody else's success.

I never understood that about people.

I don't wish ill on people, I guess until they wish ill on me, then it's on.

But for the most part I want everybody to be happy healthy and comfortable because you know what that means That means you leave me alone I want to be left alone if everybody's got stuff going on you got a good life And you got a good job and you got a good little spouse and you might have terrible kids But everything else is good in your life then you just that's what you do you focus on the beauty of your own life But when you're angry and you're miserable and you're suffering then you got to make everybody else around you suffer I'm tired of having to deal with somebody else's damn

suffering I need to be left alone it is the only thing that I ask for in life and maybe I'm doing this for selfish purposes and I try to communicate this to people I've been trying to communicate this to so many people personally professionally please leave Sherwin alone they can't

Sure, we got a mess with you

because we don't have nothing else to do we sure would get over here and get in this argument That we're having about nothing come on sure when disrupt your day Just make your day terrible by coming over here and getting involved in something that you said you wanted to be left out of Every time my damn phone raise a man who what now?

Every email I get damn it.

I ate email every Facebook inbox I get Stop it.

If you don't have my telephone number, you can't talk to me

Ain't to say that but And now I'm being angry You guys don't know what it's like somebody will just go to any news website Find whatever the headline is and they just oh Sherwin needs to see the top headline in news week calm.

No, I don't Sherwin, did you did you see this?

Did you see what happened on the south side of Milwaukee?

I know I don't

As you be doing that too sure when did you see what happened in northern Detroit yesterday at about 730 in the northern block of 19th Street in Detroit, Michigan.

Did you see the

I?

I said more timely more elegant

Oh

smooth for you to comb through something that's sexy that the audience is starving for They starving all right

So

Along the lines of things that I know interest you specifically There was a situation that took place in Mequon.

It was it was a shocking situation.

It was a road raid incident.

Okay, and there's a fellow Who's running for Congress in the sixth district and I believe correct me if I'm wrong extra we remember he's like green he's a green party guy Okay, he's a green party candidate running for Congress.

So he's

Apparently on the bed his last name is aren't we'll get to the story after I take this break and so there is There was a Jewish fellow from Israel And he was taking his son to school the Jewish fellow had his son in the car and they were going taking the boy to school, okay The Jewish fellow driving the car with his son in the passenger seat sees

Another motorist and this motorist so that let me set the stage here.

I'm doing a terrible job of it The Jewish fella has a sticker on his car with the star David on it And it says F Hamas, okay, that's what the Jewish fella He's making a political and social statement on his vehicle first foremost bumper stickers.

Why do people do that?

Don't do it.

It's like putting tattoos on your car.

Why are you doing that?

Whatever you gotta let the damn world know if there's one place in which we should not be Communicating certain viewpoints that might be controversial.

It's on your car because when we're in our vehicles and in traffic You're particularly vulnerable and there's some people out here I don't know if you know this that are insane and if they see something on your car because you want to make a political or social statement Their insanity might get triggered and now they're doing a pit maneuver and you're in a ditch So I just never understood bumper stickers

So the Jewish Feller Got a star David sticker and it says F. Hamas and then Another man witnesses the marbles ignite this man shouldn't have said nothing Okay, you see the Jewish Feller with the star David that says F. Hamas on it What a guy who's a congressional candidate for the Green Party his last name is aren't we're gonna play the video for you on the other side He starts yelling at the Jewish Feller like hey

Don't say F. Hamas on your vehicle.

Okay, and as I understand it The Green Party candidate he wanted to make it known that he didn't agree with the Jewish fellows bumper sticker And so then the congressional candidate drives away, you know what the Jewish fellow does the Jewish fellas got the star of David and Hamas F Hamas bumper sticker he followed

congressional candidate into a gas station.

I'm gonna take a break, come back and we're going to play for you the video of what transpired into what should have just been a simple disagreement in traffic and someone not liking somebody else's bumper sticker.

Turn into an arrest with a hate crime enhancer involving a congressional candidate at a gas station in Mequon while someone was taking their kid to school.

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to

tell me

something

a road rage encounter that led to a profusion of profanities and anti-Israel remarks from a mekwan man who's running for Congress.

I'm running for Congress here in the 6th district and f**k that drill.

Go f**k yourself, f**k the real lobby, f**k the Neocon.

Wow, you're running for Congress?

Yeah, you're a piece of s**t.

Mekwon police say 54 year old Matthew Arnt was arrested for disorderly conduct with a hate crime enhancer following his altercation that happened Thursday morning.

That video was taken at this mobile gas station off of Mekwan in Walatosa Road.

The man you see in the video is Matthew Arnt, and he's a Green Party candidate running for Wisconsin's sixth congressional district.

The person behind the video is a Mekwan man from Israel.

He says he wants to remain anonymous out of concern for his safety, but I sat down with him to hear what he says led up to all this.

It feels terrible.

No one wants his kid to be exposed to hate.

And this was all it was about.

It was hate towards Israel, towards Jews.

He says it started when he was driving his son to school, when Art pulled up next to them on the road and started screaming at them.

He says Art was mad at his anti-Hamas bumper sticker.

A sticker he says has nothing to do with Palestinians.

In the video, you pull in to the gas station and follow that guy.

Why do that?

It's a good question.

I don't know.

I just could not let this...

go, go past me, you know?

I'm an Israeli.

I don't think I need to take my head down when someone reacts like this in front of me or my kid.

I also talked to the Democratic and Republican candidates running for Sixth Congressional District.

Republican incumbent Glenn Grossman hadn't seen the video of aren't until I reached out to him.

Well, he's an embarrassment to the entire state of Wisconsin.

And I hope insofar as this becomes news.

Democrat

Brad Smith for Congress sent me a statement stating quote the vitriol and vulgarity he used particularly in the presence of a child is unacceptable.

What's

your name?

What's your name?

Tell

me your

name.

Tell me your name again.

Wow.

I reached out to aren't for comment, but not hear back.

Meanwhile, the Wisconsin Green Party releasing a statement that reads in part quote, the Wisconsin Green Party stands firmly for Palestinian human rights and an end to U.S.

support for the war in Gaza.

Shining obscenities that someone in a parking lot does not advance that cause.

They went on to say they've spoken of art and he says you will address the incident directly.

In Mequon, I'm Merrill Hubbard with TMJ for news.

Couple of things about this situation that.

That are highly unusual and I think that the crime that was charged of Congressional candidate aren't Is not going to stand up in court first and foremost Hamas is the army fighting on behalf of the Palestinian people and because they may have been demonized by

Tainted American media does not change the fact that Palestinians are being slaughtered Palestinian babies and children are being slaughtered They are target practicing with Palestinian kids who are riding their bike on the Gaza Strip.

They got to understand that now the Israelis are Dastardly in the murders that they are committing against children Hamas is the army that is trying to defend Palestine.

Okay, so this the Jewish fellow

wants everybody to know that he's Jewish because he has a star of David's sticker on his vehicle and it says F Hamas.

What does that tell you?

So the army that's fighting on behalf of children that are getting murdered this guy has a bumper sticker saying yeah basically screw those kids screw those dead babies and like now here's the thing the congressional candidate he got a little overzealous and he yelled at the guy in traffic

Here's something that we all should know when we're operating a motor vehicle on the road.

You need to be a defensive driver.

You know, sometimes you might cut somebody off.

You know, sometimes you may not be paying attention and you hit somebody or beep they horn at you.

I've had somebody roll their window down and say, Hey, you shouldn't have did that except they use very colorful language.

You know what I do?

I'm like, yo, my bad.

I'm just, I don't, I don't escalate.

So the guys displaying this bumper sticker with a star David and F Hamas the congressional candidate rolls down his window and yells at him That should have been the end of it But the person with the F Hamas bumper sticker Followed the other guy now when you talk about a road rage incident.

I think the guy who had who all of a sudden is the victim Even though he followed somebody into the gas station in LT

We actually agree on this because usually in situations like this, LT, I expect you to to side with designers.

And in this case, you didn't.

Why would you follow somebody into a gas station that yell at you and cuss you out in while you're driving on a road?

Why would you do that?

LT, you're right.

People get killed for that.

Because I'm going to tell you what, if I have an interaction with a driver on the road and they're following me.

And then I pull into a gas station and they pull in I'm thinking immediately I'm gonna have to defend myself because why is this person following me after an altercation that we had only a verbal altercation nobody was injured nobody was hurt but for the person who Obviously didn't like what was said about his F Hamas bumper sticker, but let that be a lesson to you sometimes when you display

Politically charged, socially charged messages on your vehicle.

Somebody's gonna say something and if you don't want people to say anything about your political or social or foreign policy views, maybe you should not put it on your vehicle.

Now hold on, a congressional candidate probably shouldn't have said what he said, which we have no video and no sound of that.

For all we know he could have said, hey, sir.

Don't like your bumper sticker because Palestinian children are getting killed.

We don't know what he said, but I can understand why it escalated because Getting pursued and getting followed by a stranger Like that's happened to other people and that was the last incident that they had on earth Somebody followed them into a dark alley followed into a parking lot followed them into a gas station and actually killed them So I can understand that man's outbursts.

Here's the problem that I have they charge the man who was followed

with a hate crime enhancer disorderly conduct.

That man was being pursued.

Now, here's the other part that don't make no damn sense.

The man who had the F. Hamas bumper sticker that followed the congressional candidate unnecessary.

You're supposed to be taking your boy to school, okay?

He followed this man into the damn gas station when he could have just kept going, should have taken his son to school, but now the person that followed...

The congressional candidate is now the victim the congressional candidate has been charged with a damn hate crime That don't make no kind of sense to me.

I'm gonna take a break come back There's a lot that I want to say and I'm not gonna say that I'm a hundred percent siding with you Xavier on such issues, but I'm a lot closer now.

What do you mean?

I don't want to get into I'm not get into all the a pack and cuz I'd rather just lead in people alone

I

got enough some of us.

I got enough stuff to worry about in Milwaukee and I don't involve myself in foreign policy unless they send a specific Milwaukee military brigade over there to fight, you know, with Israel.

Then I guess I'd have something to say about it.

But as long as black kids can't read, I think my focus needs to be pretty specific.

But this is one of those where if you're if you already believe that you're the victim.

Why would you pursue someone who obviously is showing signs of aggression and also this dude could have put his kids life in jeopardy because that dude was hot He was he was like F is real and a pack and

are you familiar with Rabbi Schmooley?

I don't know today.

I don't know no damn rabbi what I look like

well.

He's just a famous Jewish Rabbi that he's like a professional victim so someone says anything to him in public he'll

Try to follow them around with the camera and stuff like that.

So this guy might be a fan of him.

I'll show you some videos.

No, I

know you will.

I'm sure you have a lot of them to prove your point.

If if I'm in traffic.

And a white person rolls down their window.

And calls me a slur, right?

Obviously, that's not very nice.

But I'm gonna keep on going I'm just gonna let it be I got stuff to do I got somewhere to go I ain't got time to be fooling with this person I need you to think about this for a second And black folks we got to have a thick skin because you can't overreact to every damn incident of racism that takes place You won't get nothing done.

Okay, let's say somebody I shouldn't even say the n-word Let's say somebody calls me some kind of name in traffic and they yell at me for whatever the case may be But then I decided to follow them I need to get shot

If somebody is showing me signs of aggression and traffic, and then I pursue them, I should get shot.

That's what this man did.

He followed somebody that showed signs of aggression toward him while he had his son in the car.

But the man who did the pursuing is now the victim.

I hope they throw this out.

I might even attend that court case.

Ooh, put me on that jury.

I'd love to be an Austin Ozaki County, though.

Damn it.

I miss all the great cases.

Take a break, come back, continue our little chitchat.

Also because it's Every other Friday we're gonna do the truth weekend guy gonna give you a listing of the things that are happening and going on in the city It's some stuff going on.

Let me let y'all know something don't act no fool tomorrow night Listen to me and listen to me good.

It's gonna be 80 degrees tomorrow 80 degrees in October feel real different It do it feels even better, but don't act no fool cuz I know when it gets warm y'all get to clown and don't be out there chasing people in traffic and following them into the gas station because it's gonna be 80 degrees tomorrow

I'm wearing Daisy Dukes.

You think I won't?

I'll show my cheeks off.

Why can't I show off my cheeks?

You're

going to show your cheeks on camera?

I don't

know

who's asking.

Lady B, not your city girl.

They

don't want to

see my cheeks.

They want

to see you clap

it.

I can't.

I don't have enough.

I can't make it clap.

I can't even make it.

I can't make it do anything.

It doesn't bounce

up and down.

I can't.

Like if I bounce up and down, other things would clap, but not my cheeks.

You're listening to my aunt is listening to the show.

I need to chill I Need I'm not

vulgar Emma.

I'm better.

I used to be bad.

No, you're not very vulgar.

We're very you're very tame

Thank you because I can't be vulgar and then Al is vulgar too because then the show would just be in the gutter They didn't have to be on like satellite radio and have to be all uncensored.

Yeah, I would if anything I would call you a prude

You real mean I'm actually OK with that.

I'm I don't need to be all out there and being all raunchy and dirty.

I don't need to be a nasty boy.

Not on the air.

I don't need to be a nasty boy.

It's not being a nasty

boy.

Oh, you ain't got to tell me.

But there's a time and a place to be a nasty boy.

Now when I'm doing my day job, because you know, my day job is under a lot of scrutiny.

Yeah,

I got

an email from a white guy yesterday.

He didn't like the segment that I did.

the art museum where white tour guides always emphasize a black artist ghetto upbringing they always emphasize that the black person was a slave and when black docents give tours at the art museum they talk more about who the person actually was outside of their enslavement and outside of their their poverty upbringing right I thought I went back and listened to that segment I thought it was spot-on this white dude sends a three paragraph email basically saying how much I hate white people

That it's my fault that Milwaukee is divided.

I wanted to email him back so bad, but he copied damn near everybody that works from Milwaukee Black Media I said, no, let me stay above board I'm thinking to myself if he heard that segment on me being factual about how white people when they give When they explain African-American art and artifacts They can't see our humanity beyond slavery or beyond a poverty or beyond ghetto and by me Calling that out because that's unfair to us this white dude thinks that

I'm stoking racism by saying, oh, white tour guides can give tours, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Wait, what?

I'm thinking of myself, bro, have you heard that?

And you think that I'm anti-white?

You should listen to some of my other stuff like that was tame.

I was like, bro, you should you should listen

to my stuff last week, right?

That's a little white folks have it.

But you should feel honored that someone felt so moved by one of your broadcasts.

They wrote you a.

Three paragraph letter,

you know how lowly and how pitiful We think you are when you take time out of your day to actually type an email because you got that butt hurt because here's the problem with that I wish I wouldn't send me that stuff because now I want to hurt more but now I know I can get that but I want to get more butts I want to hurt the butts.

I heard so many butts I'll hurt a butt if let me know if I said something to hurt you I'm gonna say more of it.

I'm gonna make it worse, but see don't do that Why are y'all trying to trigger me got me over here wanting butts to hurt?

I heard a butt so good

I've got practice.

Pause!

I heard a butt last night.

Xavier!

I need Homer's gavel.

Order in and produce a studio!

Gotta be feeling nice and balanced.

Okay, you know, I'm... Okay, I gotta take a commercial break.

over here losing your damn mind.

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Yeah, hello.

Going once.

Hi, going.

Hello.

Hello, showing.

Hi, sir.

And how are you?

I'm fine.

How are you?

I'm doing all right.

I'm listening to you.

And you know, the two things first off, the Hamas and the Israelis.

This has been going on since Bible times.

And you know what they're talking about?

If you study and you're a smart guy, they always use that type of stuff.

They're sticking babies on bed.

And remember the Germans were doing that.

But once you really did that in World War II, they were the Japanese, right?

They'd line our guys up to see how much they could put a sword through them, how many heads they could chop off with one ball.

But the thing that those people do over there, they hide their stuff so they can get sympathy.

They hide everything in schools.

They put it under a hospital and this and that.

And you are a student of history.

Study triply.

and what Andrew Jackson did.

Got a barbery pirate.

That's the same people.

Read that one.

Now, the other one I want to mention is this stop.

You carry a grudge.

If I'm by myself, I might not.

But if I'm with my wife and things are happening, like somebody's yelling at us, and those people don't like us in general, if you're going the wrong way, you've got a red light, maybe somebody sees your ring, or they see her ring, and they start thinking something they shouldn't think.

And she'll tell me she still asked me she said baby.

Why are you taking off your seatbelt?

And I just thought I got was looking we got to make sure you know, but I'm not gonna get trapped in my car I've got to walk up on them and die looking at him

wait What you're describing like what would start an incident to where you would want to pursue somebody and put your life and your wife's life in danger Like if somebody looks at you somebody says something like you would actually die for that.

No

I've died for this when we were up north at our land.

I'm gonna tell you one for real.

We were up north at our, you know, we've got land, we've got a couple houses.

So we're up there and it's bad enough there's going up there, but you're in Vilas County and it's pretty much cosmopolitan.

But you get out, you get out of from there and there's not a whole lot of people like us up there.

So we went to get something to eat.

One thing right do another you want a couple cocktails as ever cocktail, you know I'm watching this I told her I say man We got a little I noticed these guys eyeing us right and I said look man We got to go you know they're not eyeing you with up just because they look hey your wife is good luck And you know your handsome guy are looking at us.

Hey, we're gonna start some trouble.

You're a guy you've been in bars So I told her let's go man finish your drink slow and then you go first and they

said something so you they were just looking at

you

They don't have to say nothing you're a man and you know what it you know what you're a black dude You know what it's like to be somewhere where people are if they start cutting their eyes some white trash and they start cutting their eyes

Alan here's the thing about being black you think that we can react and do something and say something every time a damn white person Land a plane man because you ain't gonna get no sympathy from us because what you just talked about we deal with 47 times a day land a plane