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Tutu Reeve says most of us don't have power, so again, we can be bigoted.

I think we're looking at it with too narrow over scope.

There's a tremendous number of black people that have power.

If your city has a drug problem, let's say it's the one, the bad one, heroin, fentanyl.

You see a motorist In a neighborhood where there's a lot of drug activity and you're a police officer cops have a lot of power, you know that some cops are black, you know that too Do you know that black cops can also racially profile white people if they think this white couple and this Toyota Camry is trolling for drugs in a neighborhood known for drug activity And let's say that vehicle didn't know moving violations.

They didn't speed they didn't cause any

You know, they didn't break any traffic laws.

They absolutely can get pulled over.

I would say that that cop is acting in a racist way just because you see a white couple in a vehicle driving around an area where there's high drug activity.

That's not a reason to pull them over.

But guess what?

The cop doesn't anyway.

Like that.

That's a small thing, maybe to some of you, but to that white couple, that's a huge thing because they're getting pulled over by the police.

And we know once the cops have you pulled over.

Now it's entirely up to you what you do, but it's probably in your best interest if you comply.

So there are ways in which black people can't be racist.

And the other one is we assume that all white people have power.

If anything, they may get the benefit of the doubt because of their skin color, but right now in America, being white doesn't really afford you all that much.

The throes of this country, these big, huge, West Virginia is probably the best and the worst example for white people.

They have nothing and when we stop burning coal as fuel for heat, they're really cooked Kansas Nebraska Other than whatever oil reserves we have in North and South Dakota Alaska the large majority of these states are poor white people that don't have any kind of power They can't harm a black person.

They have no institutional structural power

So as long as we are being specific at how we are looking at race and racism all white people ain't got power now They may have some privilege But some of them don't even know how to use their privilege right because if you're white and jobless and poor you are lazy the whole country was set up for you literally it's designed in this blueprint from top to bottom all of the Constitution benefits you in some kind of way Programs tax incentives, it's all for you how states were created

Native Americans were moved out, colonized the land in which the Native Americans lived on and built suburbs on them, but some some kind of way white folks missed the boat.

When black people are in disadvantaged situations, we very well can say an institution or a structural or a white person simply did not give us an opportunity because we are black and that's a very real thing.

White people cannot use their skin color as to why they have fallen below the cracks in a nation that was literally discovered curated created and shaped for them But yes black people can be racist.

Let's talk to Someone who I believe is actually racist online one.

I'm actually a little nervous to talk to them because I'm not sure what they may say Here we go you guys ready you guys ready for some real racisms here we go

Hello Bob

hello show You know what is interesting is the fact that white people understand there are Maybe a person in Africa that can cure Alzheimer's disease

And they're

not

in here

you

cure what?

Alzheimer's disease or cancer.

So they can't be, you know, disliking the lower class people, Asians, whatever Mexicans because they could, you know, they understand that any race of a person can get us a cure for cancer or whatever.

You know, so it's hard for me to believe that they just making sure they stay ahead.

They give so much charity.

That's one horrible thing that Trump did between you and me the other day.

They stopped that charity from going to Africa and people died.

Oh, that was so cruel.

That was so cruel.

You know and and so they

think

you know and I believe if people want it all all the host Radio host won't people to call in They won't be I don't get you.

Yeah,

it's not always because believe it or not some calls are a waste of

time

You know you want people to call in and the lines is big y'all host do you know to me?

Before you ever been behind the microphone for three hours five days a week you ever done that No, it's hard.

That's not easy.

How would you know what a radio host may want?

By the way you talk doing you know, you know when you talk I just

You want people to call me how

often how often do you hear me say call in now?

Please call it unless we giving some away How often do you hear me say I give the phone number out?

But I do that cuz I kind of have to how often do you hear me say well if you don't believe it call in I bet somebody won't call in I'd like to hear somebody call in callers.

What do you think you ever hear me say that?

Cuz then when I do that guess who calls

you do

you look you got a gift of gas and you got a good talent and you don't really have to have too many people calling but you want to you wouldn't like that I really I don't believe that you don't want people to call you it would be you didn't even have a chance to get your partner calls because people was calling all you radio hosts won't people to call you and and and you know

That's about all I got to say, you know about except it just aggravated me to stop the charity from going into an area in Africa where blacks died because of it.

And man, it's cold, boy.

They need to

get rid of that.

Why do you think it's America or the US government?

Or us taxpayers responsibility and this is I'm just asking you like not because I'm it's a loaded question.

I'm just curious as to what Your answer will be.

Why do you think it's our responsibility?

To give money to other countries

It's not a responsibility.

It's intelligence is smart.

It's because they realize There's a person maybe in Asia maybe

China that can invent a cure for cancer.

So they understand that, you know, and that's why chair needs to be, it's not an obligation,

but they know.

Wouldn't that be the benefit of that Asian country for the leaders of that Asian country to foster their own population to invent the cure for cancer?

Why is it the responsibility of the United States to give

our money to another nation so they can find the cure for cancer and you're right Bob they're probably hold on don't talk there might be somebody in an Asian country that if they got some USAID they could

find the cure for cancer, but I know people that live in Milwaukee County or Gary, Indiana or Detroit, Michigan or Sacramento, California, they could also use that money that might also find the cure for cancer.

And those people are right here in America.

So why would, and this is an objective question, why should we prioritize giving American money to another nation when I can probably list

200 million people in this country that need that money more than somebody in Asia does because that Asian has their own country, their own government, their own democracy, their own taxes, their own tariffs.

Why do they need our money?

Sherwin, Sherwin, it's not

about money, money, money all the time.

It is about money, money, money.

You talk about giving

them money.

No, Sherwin.

It's about getting a cure or being able to analyze age.

And and and no one can analyze a better person from Africa or Asia or whatever And people share people share all over the world

Don't don't don't listen to me.

Don't vote again.

Don't do any voting.

You're gonna hurt what excuse me You better not don't let me find out you know you better not vote you better not let me find out you the next election is on a Wednesday

You understand it you hear me I Apologize for that go back to doing what you've been doing for the 60 some years of your life Just go on iron and do your little laundry and go to the grocery store and make you some ham hocks Don't you ain't got to do?

It makes sense to vote sure when you made sense

And so I do that in regards to what you say but not

I gotta go find a cure for Alzheimer's so I gotta go I'm not having that I'm not having That's your favorite

color

I Wouldn't say favorite favorite is probably

This woman who goes by DJ she'll call once every three years, but it's worth the wait

She's called a couple times since I've been here

Al ranks high Who else Milisand is great The town presses me

Lee's favorite guy named the caller.

He's preachy.

Really?

He calls in

a lot on the morning show.

Yeah.

Just not one of my favorites.

I'm sure he's a nice guy,

but it's not.

Not my favorite.

I'm indifferent to all the callers.

But do you ever, and you're just as familiar with the callers as I am.

Do you ever, because you can recognize them on a caller ID.

Do you ever see somebody?

Come up on a call already like oh god.

Oh here we go again.

I'm only I mean to get annoyed when I because when I call and I say what's your name and what would you like to talk about and the Instantly start talking about what they want to talk about instead of saying their name First you know I mean so that's my number one pet peeves if you ever call in When I say what's your name and what you want to talk about say your name and briefly talk about what you want to talk about I don't want to have a whole conversation

Even

when they tell you what they're gonna talk about 90% of the time.

That's not even what they're gonna talk about.

That's true.

I Just see the name and I go with it.

I don't even care what they say they're gonna talk about cuz Chances are they're gonna switch up to something else anyway, or I gotta tell you guys how much money black men make I got the chart right here in front of me.

Unfortunately, you're gonna have to wait until I come back from this little commercial break before I shared with you

How much do black men really make according to us census data now remember Ladies if you want a black man Some of you don't some of y'all are done with us Some of y'all hate us Some of you ladies think we're just all not good people and not good providers and then probably about 27 to 49 percent of black women think that all black men are gay.

So there's that

We're not respectful or feminine, right?

We're not masculine enough because you ladies, you all have to be the man, right?

And some of y'all take that role very seriously.

No, seriously, there's some women that take the role of being masculine to heart.

So much so, you got a thicker mustache than me.

Got a beard like DJ Brother Zeke.

That's how masculine you are.

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Till noon on one on one seven the truth It's all about mindset money in real estate helping you take the next step toward building a future How much do black men really make before we get to those details Lisa probably knows hello Lisa.

How are you?

Doing okay.

What's on your mind, Lisa?

I'm not one of your favorite color.

I guess not.

You didn't mention my name.

Oh well.

You sound sick.

You okay?

I didn't recognize you.

You know, my voice, I don't know for the last few days.

I lost my voice.

It got a lot better.

I couldn't talk

at all

yesterday.

Are you driving?

Yes, I am.

You know, I don't like when people call me from the car speakerphone.

You know, you ain't supposed to call radio shows from the speakerphone.

I didn't know that.

Never heard of that.

Well, you're hearing it now because the listening experience for other people is terrible.

Convenient for you.

Bad for us, but I guess we'll bear with you.

Go ahead and give us your comment.

I'm not one of your favorite.

Is that why you called?

No, you're not.

Being true to them, being honest, and I'm also a little bit racist.

Oh, that's

fine.

What?

You

being you.

Are you a little bit racist, Lisa?

A little bit?

No.

Yes, you

are.

No, I believe in, I believe in, you know, people treat others like they want to be treated.

Nobody treats others like they want to be treated.

Nobody

does

that.

And in other words, there are things that, you know, one, one way.

do in other ways or not.

And it's like, are you not tired yet of doing it?

Are you not tired of it?

Are you accepting this type of behavior?

Or are you just going to keep brushing it off?

And it seems like our people just keep brushing it off.

Everybody gets a black card.

It gives a black card to everybody.

And that's what angers me.

And when they get the black card, they treat them.

They act like they got a gold card.

But you're leaving off

my

black card.

I don't understand that But

and we

accepted that's what makes me angry.

We accept

it.

I don't

accept it because I wish one would try me I Wish one would try me I'll be like come on.

It sounds like a threat

Well wonder boy in Texas he tried me I said I'm down real quick

He tried me the Mexican boy.

He tried me

Why hold on why you gotta be a Mexican boy?

Why can't he just be a boy and he probably was a grown

man?

Because he was a Mexican boy about 21 22 He was a boy.

He

gives

them my son was older than him If he lived but he was a boy and you're gonna be a boy until you learn how to talk to me Until you learn how to talk to a woman

until you learn how to talk to a black woman, until you learn how to talk to a black person.

Because every black person that's stepping into this AT&T store doesn't mean they're going to steal something when they're looking.

When I'm shopping and I realize I'm going to purchase just about everything that's in there, but you feel what?

That

I'm

going to steal your little items?

Boy, if you don't sit down and have a seat in, boy, I'm the wrong person.

Lisa, you don't think you look like a thief just a little bit, just kind of, no?

Yeah.

No way

all

right not when I greet you not when I greet you with a smile and everything else

Fair enough.

Why

would you why would you think that you know?

I don't think that about nobody

does a thief comes in all shapes and sizes and cause thief could be anybody

I Don't know you'll see that whatever color you are you'll see feel all

right.

Well, I trust you know because why you're thief

I don't care what race you are.

Do you

trust

me,

Lisa?

I

love you.

I still love you.

Trust you as far as I can see you.

What the hell?

Yeah.

That means I don't see you.

So I don't trust you because I don't know what you're doing.

What you mean you don't trust me?

You call my radio show and want to talk to me, but you don't trust me.

Why are you calling somebody you don't trust?

What does that got to do with trust?

Because I was.

You know people that they're calling you like to talk to I thought you like talk to me other than my voting issue

That's one of the reasons that's one of yeah, that's pretty significant But here's the thing Lisa tell you what I've had a change of heart.

I don't care if you vote I'ma leave you alone about it.

You do whatever it is that you want to do I'm gonna I'm not gonna bother you, but don't vote if you don't want to

Because people

Look, everybody's different.

I don't

hold nothing over no one.

No,

nothing.

You know,

so,

you know, somebody, I hear people, folks, you know, they, when that voting time come, I hear them vote.

I mean, I haven't talked about it.

Republicans and then I see me.

Okay, listen, at least we were done talking about that.

I got to tell people how much money black men make.

I got to tell them because you're prolonging the conversation.

This is why you're not one of my favorite people to talk to.

This is why.

Hold on.

Remember I told you I was gonna bring you something

don't bring me anything Don't do it

You

see Cuz first of all you said you don't trust me I got to go now.

I got to talk about the black man how much money we don't have I work in a food court.

There's a food court in the radio

They don't make a memory like I do

make a what a what now wait What is

it a memory?

I don't know what that is a

memory right Until you try it.

It's a it's a BLT, but it has different,

you

know, I hooked it up That's my bill.

What's in it?

Um Well, I got baking in there with whatever type of baking you want first of all because I make sure people

Yeah, I got pork bacon and

only one kind of bacon only one kind of big only one kind and the rest

of that other stuff ain't

bacon So hurry up and tell me what's in the damn sandwich because I don't want no sound if I want them one on me to meet am I sound you got 10 seconds It's

a porkster.

They got pork chops to pork chops.

They got bacon

Lisa did you just say you put a damn pork chop in a BLT?

What's wrong with you black

is why you blacks died from high

cholesterol diabetes Are you you put away?

Isn't that just a pork chop sandwich with bacon on it?

Okay,

I gotta go I've had enough my cholesterol is going up just listening to

you

Po women I try wouldn't you

they need to stop

anyway,

they try to damn hard.

Okay.

Thank you Lisa.

All right now.

All right.

All right.

All right.

Okay, you too.

All right.

Holy Jesus Christ.

Good God a BLC with a pork chop in 18% of black men

Make less than $15,000 a year Comparatively 20% of black women make less than $15,000 a year 22% of black men make between 15 and $30,000 a year 24% of black men make between 30 and 50k

18% of black men make between 50 and $75,000 a year.

Only 8% of black men in America make between $75,000 and $100,000 a year.

6% of black men make between $100,000 and $150,000 a year.

So ladies, if you are looking for a black man that makes six figures,

You're looking at roughly 6% of the African American men.

Some of them are gay, some of them are married, and the rest of them probably won't like you.

Only 2% of black men in America make between $150,000 and $200,000.

1% of black men make between $200,000 and $250,000 a year.

And 1% of black men make more than $250,000 per year.

All told, 64% of African American men in America as of the year 2024 make under $50,000.

Only 10% of black men in America make over $100,000 per year.

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I don't know if somebody might have a problem with the way I read that.

I might get chastised.

It's a

possibility.

All right, that's enough.

I gotta get serious here.

Everything has got to be very serious.

Got to be very serious all the time.

So I am not a fan of talk radio.

Let me explain.

Because I'm not a fan of it, I make talk radio for people that are also not fans of talk radio.

It's usually boring.

It's a bunch of unfounded opinion sometimes hosts get on here and they just lie or if it's true to them It must be true for everybody.

No Gotta spice it up a little bit.

You know what I mean?

Gotta add a little pizzazz to it.

Otherwise It's terrible

You know what else is terrible ladies and gentlemen I hate to admit it because I do use artificial intelligence and oh stop it you do too There's great benefits from using AI.

Do you know that artificial intelligence can identify?

tumors and cancer better Faster and more efficiently than human beings When doctors look at x-rays they sometimes cannot tell they cannot determine especially a blood test come back negative and they can miss a lot of cancers

artificial intelligence when used properly can really advance the course of medical technology and lots of other technologies.

Unfortunately, ladies and gentlemen, that is not the only thing that artificial intelligence can do.

And a lot of people are sounding the alarm that it does have the power to do some very, very evil and very sinister things.

But any technology can be manipulated The conveniences that we have just from our phones We can buy things and order things we can get research on anything you can do all sorts of things you can you know put together a grocery list

That's healthy.

You can find out what prices are.

You can find out about investments.

There's so many things that you can do.

You can look at your cameras and keep an eye on your home when you're away.

Technologies are untold not to mention it can connect the world.

You can talk to people that live many thousands of miles away.

It's a great connector of people and there's just so many conveniences.

But also there's a lot of risk.

50 years ago, we knew nothing about someone hacking into our bank accounts or stealing our passwords or stealing our Identity such things didn't exist.

There's always going to be drawbacks, but the conveniences are incredible You can order a pizza with your thumbs and a person will bring a pizza to your house and you don't even have to talk to a person You can pay for it right there online not just pizza

If you would have told me when I was in fifth grade that one day I could have sushi delivered to my front door by a non Asian person I'd have slapped you in the face because I wouldn't have believed you Our entertainment our movies I Watch movies on the internet ladies and gentlemen.

I don't have DVDs.

I Don't have VHS tapes

None of them I got rid of all of them.

I have a rather large movie collection.

All of them are stored in the cloud Sometimes when I bore when I'm bored, I'll go through the different digital movie offerings I can boom I can rent some movie right there from the comfort and convenience of my living room using nothing but a store credit card and my thumbs pushing on the buttons of a remote control

So incredibly convenient.

In fact, I don't know how we could ever readjust our lives without these technologies not to mention automotive technologies If I told you ladies and gentlemen that there are some cars that drive themselves and Park themselves Would you believe that as you can get into certain vehicles

that you can buy right now put in an address or use a voice command hit a button and you don't have to touch the steering wheel the accelerator nor the brake pedal and you can arrive at your destination and a lot of times you can arrive there even more safely than if you were operating that vehicle yourself that is incredible now there's some drawbacks

especially when it comes to artificial intelligence and how it has been used, dispatched and deployed in law enforcement and policing.

And some of the information that I found is alarming.

Now, this is where we need people to know, to understand and to pay attention.

I personally am not in favor.

for artificial intelligence to take the place of Policing and I'm gonna tell you why because the bias that exists in people I think that that can be more malleable

We can train people and train our law enforcement to be conscious of their bias and to be a little bit more objective.

The problem that I and we should have with artificial intelligence getting involved in law enforcement is whatever bias a programmer has.

Let's say they haven't been through anti-biased training and they're putting together a program and constructing an algorithm with their bias already built in.

what that artificial intelligence is going to do is going to continue to use and replicate that bias in every single law enforcement scenario.

That is a problem.

Especially if we are not being conscious and intentional of eliminating and eradicating bias in our computer programming and in our artificial intelligence algorithms.

There is now enough documented evidence to discuss artificial intelligence in policing without resorting to hypothetical science fiction.

The central risk is not simply that an algorithm can be wrong.

It is that an algorithm can be wrong at an enormous scale, can conceal how it reached the wrong answer, and can cause police officers to treat an uncertain statistical prediction.

as a real objective fact that can lead to arrest or worse.

And of course, per this article, Milwaukee provides a particularly relevant case in February of this year.

Milwaukee Police Department backed away from acquiring facial recognition technology and Chief Jeffrey Norman announced that the department would prohibit its use before that decision.

A proposed arrangement with.

Biometrica reportedly contemplated providing access to roughly 2.5 million mug shots and images in exchange for facial recognition software licenses.

The Milwaukee Police Department also had previously borrowed facial recognition capability from neighboring agencies.

The fundamental problem, artificial intelligence converts probability into police action.

Most police AI does not actually say this person committed a crime.

It produces something much closer to, quote, this face looks statistically similar to a criminal's face.

Or this person slash vehicle slash location has characteristics associated with previous criminal activity.

The danger arises when the human officer interprets the first statement as the second the United States Justice Department's own 2024 report on AI and criminal justice warned that predictive AI policing data can contain gaps errors and human biases and that algorithms trained on those data can perpetuate existing disparities and lead to

over policing of particular people and communities and I think you know who those people in communities are.

Facial recognition has actually sent innocent people to jail.

This is the easiest AI policing danger to demonstrate because there are identifiable victims and I got a list of names.

So here's what I'm gonna do.

I'm gonna take a break.

Come back.

And I'm going to give actual examples of how facial recognition technology has led to innocent people being arrested and being detained.

Talk about that on the other side.

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Robert Williams from Detroit.

In 2020, Detroit police arrested Mr. Williams, a black man, after facial recognition technology incorrectly connected him to surveillance footage from a watch theft.

Police arrested him at his home in front of his wife and his children.

He hadn't committed the crime.

The case eventually resulted in a 2024 settlement, so four years later, imposing major restrictions on Detroit police use of facial recognition.

That was not Detroit's only case.

Portia Woodruff.

This case is even more striking.

Woodruff was eight months pregnant when six Detroit police officers came to her house and arrested her for robbery and carjacking.

Facial recognition produced a bad lead.

Underlying search generated 73 possible candidates, which an investigator narrowed down to Woodruff erroneously.

Charges were subsequently dismissed for insufficient evidence.

She sued Detroit.

By 2023, she was the third known person alleging wrongful arrest by Detroit police involving an incorrect facial recognition.

match.

There was an obvious real world clue that something was wrong.

The woman police were arresting was eight months pregnant.

That's an important lesson for AI policing.

The computer didn't eliminate human error.

Human beings stopped questioning the artificial intelligence.

Niger Park spent 10 whole days in jail.

New Jersey police investigated a shoplifting case in 2019 the actual suspect had left behind evidence including fingerprints and DNA But investigators obtained a facial recognition lead pointing toward Niger parks Parks was innocent.

He nevertheless spent 10 days in jail This illustrates something psychologists call

Automation bias people tend to give disproportionate credibility to computers Once AI says possible match Ray knitting possible match these a brother Z possible match Xavier

An investigator can unconsciously begin asking, how do I prove that they actually committed a crime that they probably did not commit?

Here's the problem and I see a bunch of problems.

Let's say I'm minding my own business, which I rarely do.

But I'm just going on about my day, doing Sherwin things.

I don't know, I'm driving around.

I'm eating a cousin's sub with my shirt off.

I just woke up from a nap and the nap was so good.

I lost one of my socks.

I'm just doing whatever it is that I do, okay?

I Hear a knock at the door they identify themselves as the Milwaukee police department and they break my door down They don't even let me put my other sock on and they arrest me or they attempt to now remember I'm not doing nothing, but sitting in my living room partially nude eating a pepperoni milk

But they believe that they have evidence that I committed a crime artificial intelligence Misidentified me and they believe that I am the suspect now.

This is obviously a worst-case scenario, but I want you guys to imagine that you are being Arrested by the police and you literally didn't do the crime and they're not even telling you why they're arresting you and let's say when the information comes out the crime that they are accusing you of you aren't even in the vicinity of the location

Of where that crime took place.

Can you imagine being totally and completely innocent and have have done nothing wrong and now they're arresting you?

You probably would resist arrest because you know you didn't do anything wrong This is the big problem because we know once you begin to resist because let's just imagine for a second you didn't do it They're accusing you of maybe a violent felony and you absolutely didn't do it, but a computer somewhere misidentified you with bad facial recognition technology

and they believe that the computer was accurate and they're making an arrest and you literally didn't do it.

You would resist, you would argue, you would fight.

Let's say you got somewhere to go, let's say you have things to do.

The police just busted your door down or they're dragging you out of your vehicle and you're already late to an appointment.

That is what this actual danger is now I know that they say if you're being arrested you're supposed to comply You're not supposed to resist but what if you really?

Truly didn't do it And of course you're gonna try and plead your case to law enforcement because guess what everybody's getting arrested by law enforcement says the same thing I didn't do it.

I Really didn't commit the crime and actually

was right nitty or

Maybe Shannon

That's a legitimate concern Now it doesn't happen often and we hope that These incidents are few and far between but if it happens once it happens way too much There's a Netflix documentary that I really want you all to watch and I don't recommend Documentaries or movies very often, but every so often there's one Where I believe it's in the public interest to view and it's called coded

Bias and it came out.

It was one of those pandemic era Documentaries and we would just glued to the television boy.

I watched more Netflix and that two-year span Then probably in the ten years prior to I Remember when Netflix was like a kiosk at a grocery store where you go get a DVD Before that Netflix you would order movies in the mail.

That was dumb

I'm gonna go online and pick a DVD and they're gonna send it to them through the mail Did you mail it back when you were done watching is that how that works?

It's called coded bias and It's an African woman.

I think she's African-American or maybe African and She explains in great detail how The bias that's that white people and computer programmers

This is why we need more black people in tech is essentially the The plot of this documentary and when you have people that have racial bias because you know, they think we all look alike God I hate that I Know for an absolute fact The white people do not all look alike.

You don't think so.

No Not even close.

I get confused here.

Sometimes I call people the wrong names

Well here is a little different

They all look a

lot

here.

Yeah here.

They do like there's like a similar they all They all dress the same And I think a lot of you know the good karma people because they're it's all sports now and All the the women I should say yes, you should

say Why not?

We don't work for the hold on

I'm trying to figure out how I can say because people are real sensitive around here And I got to be careful because I got to be mindful of people

You know how women that ride motorcycles Are a little masculine.

Yes

Women that work in the field of sports a lot of times other than the ones that are hired because of their looks But it's kind of dude-ish, you

know, you think so They

dress like their favorite athletes, you know what I mean, they're just kind of got a little tomboy issue.

Yeah, that's what it is.

That's what it is

No, I'm not judging and that's how some of them look it is and so yes, there is a similar so people sometimes in in like professional fields Like the culture is like homogeneous.

They may dress the same but now I can tell I can distinguish between whites I Can look at a white and tell like oh you look like you're Eastern European because they have like a different look on their face I can tell because I've also viewed and witnessed many whites in my life

And I'm able to tell, like I also can tell the difference between, I pride myself on this, a Chinese person, a Japanese person, like Southeast Asian, like Laotian, Vietnamese.

I definitely can tell, I'll spot them a mile away.

I can spot an African, like a Somalian.

Oh God, oh yeah.

They got that look.

They, oh yes they do.

They're not hiding from anybody.

But sure when I promised I'm not from somebody.

Oh shut up.

Yes, you are don't try to hide it.

It's very obvious

They do

have they've got a look, but there's a hope but I'm Nigerians too

Sudanese people as well.

Yeah, there's a look to them But now I can tell the difference.

I don't think that all white people look like so that's annoying But so because they have that bias they think that we all look alike as black people When they code and they create these computer programs and these algorithms that same bias of not differentiating

Our facial features Causes innocent people to get flagged for crimes.

They did not commit so I hate when they say we all look alike because I can have dangerous implications because wonderful white person confuses me with a black person that owes them money Hey, hey dude come here, huh?

Yeah you The one wearing that blue shirt and that really sexy bomber jacket.

Yeah you

Don't you owe me $45?

No, you look like the dude that owes me $45 and I gotta fight this dude.

I don't owe nobody $45.

I actually owe him $50.

I hate when they say we all look alike and here's the other thing that I hate.

This is even worse.

It's the worst thing that a white person can say or do.

And if I have any whites listening, please take heed.

I want you to be aware of this.

This is very.

upsetting to us.

And it's usually a white person who's from outside the city of Milwaukee, but they may spend some time here.

They might come here for, you know, concerts.

It might have been in Bryson Tiller.

They might go to festivals, but they don't live in the city of Milwaukee and they don't really interact with black people all that often, but they know a handful of us, right?

And so let's say this mystery white who comes into the city infrequently, but on occasion, they've met a couple of black people.

I only met him out and about met him at a concert met him at a bar met him at a restaurant Okay, and they know this black person very well, and maybe they even keep in touch Follow me.

I'm going somewhere with this And because they know this black person This white person then happens to meet me and then they ask me if I know the Random handful of black people that they met on various visits to the city of Milwaukee

We do not all know each other.

I would never ask a white person like, hey, hey, hey, random white.

Do you know John Smith, another white that I'm familiar with?

That's ridiculous.

They might.

Thank you for listening.

The lunch break is up next.

Yeah, Sherwin.

Yeah, I'm a little bit race.

I'd love to hear I'm not even gonna get managed.

I want to explore the topic today.

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The question of the day and really the question of every day is are you just a little bit racist?

You don't have to be proud of it.

Everybody has flaws.

It is okay to admit.

That you have flaws and in the grand scheme of things and to be a good person to be a good human being racially biased for being a racist or even being even being judgmental Like those are flaws.

You're not supposed to be judgmental.

You're supposed to listen and not judge.

Oh Stop it.

That's all we do is we walk around and we judge we judge everything every body all the time.

I have never one time ever in my life

Met a human being that is not judgmental what'll happen though is people will be like overly sympathetic if you see somebody who's down and out and they're doing poorly and they're not doing well like you might want to offer some help Do you need some money?

Do what can I do for you?

You were judging that person based upon what you were seeing.

They didn't ask you for nothing.

You're still judging them It's okay.

We're human But we sometimes pretend

That we are holier than thou when we are not in fact I want this one to sting a little bit some of the most absolutely vile harmful hurtful neglectful abusive Judgmental people I've ever met in my entire life sitting a church pew every Sunday every Sunday because they believe that they can act any old kind of way

They can act immorally.

They can act illegally.

They can be mean-spirited.

They can gossip, which to me is one of the biggest sins there is, and death to the gossipers.

I shouldn't say that too loud.

But if you go to church every Sunday and Jesus forgives you, it allows you to be a horrible human being, but have a good conscience about it.

There's nothing more hypocritical than that.

Some of the best people, the sweetest people, the nicest people.

the most self-sacrificing people.

And also, dare I say, the most people-pleasing people would never step foot in a church a day in their lives and probably have no allegiance to any kind of religion whatsoever.

But because they feel guilty about that in a Christian nation where in God we trust is on the money, and if I'm not mistaken, in God we trust is even on a couple of state's license plates.

Talk about a separation of church and state gone awry.

Sheesh!

Oh, Xavier.

Yes, sir.

Well, I think South Carolina actually.

Well, do you know the, you know, God, we trust that got put on our money because we're battling the godless communists.

Thank you.

That's us being judgmental right there.

Yeah.

I mean, you're a communist.

No, I'm not.

Oh,

it's OK.

No, I'm I'm a capitalist that believes in well regulated capitalism.

All right.

Fine.

I want everyone to be able to admit their flaws instead of walking around holier than now.

That's the only way that should grow or maybe you don't grow.

Maybe you just are happy and comfortable with who you are There's also a bunch of misnomers.

We have this conversation a lot You can be I don't know whatever kind of racist or judgmental or prejudice blah blah blah blah against a group and Still marry somebody from that group Please don't get it twisted You can hate black people hate

Everything about us and have a black spouse and have biracial kids We have to digest that and understand that to be very very true now I don't know what JD Vance's racial proclivities are and you would think is Donald Trump picked him to be his vice president that they must share some kind of racial attitudinal similarities his wife is Indian

Stephen Miller who absolute racist.

Oh, he'll tell you I got a tattoo.

He's Jewish though, too So that's also I want black people to know and understand the Jewish people can be very racist as well against everybody literally racist against everybody who's not Jewish and I don't know the ethnicity of his wife Stephen Miller is a Donald Trump advisor who comes up with some of the worst most egregious Culturally insensitive

Policies that a lot of that stuff comes from Steven Miller and like how to architect and you know rig these elections That's all Steven Miller stuff.

I don't know what the race of his wife is but she ain't no Lily white one Xavier.

Yes, sir.

She's Caucasian and Jewish

She looks kind of olive though.

Yeah, she might be she might have a little a couple flakes of Middle Eastern in her.

Yeah, you know because they're semites.

Yeah, exactly It's hard to say because you can be real super duper white and then be Jewish

Lot of them are European.

Well, yeah, they're from Europe Yep, they are converted Europeans, but you got to go back like 5,000 years though those Jewish people Were the semites now Europe is just I'm a Jew now and I hate everybody that's not I'm gonna let me leave the Jews alone because I don't I don't feel like that battle today because that battle is It's a rough one

When everybody's got a little

Little tinge of racism.

I don't want to ask you Xavier because you'd be all too happy to answer I'm gonna check the poll.

I know that it's early We only started the poll when this show began.

I just want to take a little gander

free to ask me what

I Don't want to ask cuz I know what you're gonna say Some people you don't need to ask you just know now if someone were to ask me My racial viewpoints

are very, very complicated.

And as time goes on and I meet more people, my racial viewpoints become even more complex because I know people of so many different dynamics and ages and levels of income and education.

And I know people from different, different regions and different

countries and there is good there is bad and there is ugly in all of them so I cannot say with absolute certainty that these are the bad people and these are the good people so if I take my group if I had to identify quote-unquote the good people there's some bad ones mixed in there too and if I identify this group these are the bad ones there are some saintly people mixed amongst that group as well

I do believe that holding and harboring some kind of racial resentment is essential for the United States and the brand of capitalism that we have.

Somebody has to be on the bottom.

Let's not always focus on the people that are on the top.

We'll worry about them another time, not right now.

But in America, somebody has to be on the bottom because that's who we can almost universally marginalize, prejudge, discriminate against, and pay less.

Gotta have a group that you dehumanize because those are gonna be the people that are taking the place of American slavery for a very long time.

I'm not gonna say it's still black people.

because there's some folks that are below us.

But it was us for a very, very long time, even after we were free and granted citizenship and the right to vote and the rights of freely assembled and do all of the things.

We were still on the bottom of the totem pole and look at the incomes of black people as a result of that.

Then for a while, it was it was the gays.

The gays did a strong comeback, though.

Now you're going to have Pete Buttigieg going to run for

president.

Don't know about that mayor Pete.

I don't hold on now.

It's not that I Have a problem With a gay president I Know other black

people will have a problem with the gay president, but I will say this I've interviewed mayor Pete several times Smart as a whip very articulate policies are great reasonable dude moderate his problem though is his flamboyant husband

Chaston don't shut his mouth.

I think they put They kind of I think they took Chaston's Twitter away from him because Chaston is The yin to Pete's yang he's just the flamboyant one but I'll say this if the if Pete Buttigieg and Chaston became first man and first man President of first first gentleman should that take a lot of getting used to first The president because right now you got a president and a first lady

If Pete Buttigieg became president it would be the president of first gentlemen The White House will be decorated impeccably you know what they would do to that ballroom that ballroom would just be glittered out ever disco ball in it Imagine the parties they'd have in the Donald Trump ballroom But there has to be somebody on the bottom and so being racist or having racial bias is a function of America now We want to get rid of that, but if you get rid of

The racial bias, and if you get rid of capitalism, like the way we see it, because there's gotta be some bias.

So for a while it was women, women are on the bottom, women get paid less, women are looked at as less than, they can't do certain jobs, et cetera, et cetera.

So whenever you have a group that is discriminated against, that is prejudged, that is on a lower racial totem pole, these are the people that we pay less, because the only way that you really, truly get rich in America is if you rob people of salary.

Instead of paying somebody 50 bucks an hour,

You pay them seven and you keep the other 43 so in order to justify that Immorality you have to say well these are just a lower order of people.

They don't deserve to make good money.

I'm taking break come back Look who the pole is getting robust.

Let's see what we got.

Oh You dirty sons of guns you look at the

pole

48% of you are at least somewhat racist.

You know what?

I'm proud of you.

I'm proud of you all for admitting that.

Now, I think the number is a lot higher.

But as the show goes on, because as time goes on, different listeners kind of filter in like there's some people that don't start listening till 10 and some people that don't start listening till 11 or 1130.

Those late arrivals to my show, those the racist ones, they wait till the very end.

So watch the poll explode as the show goes on.

Title of the program today is dependency because I mean ultimately at the end of the day the whole racist thing It's stupid because we're all dependent on one another.

I Need you all I need the whites And you know the not the whites need me

I Give them common sense.

I'm the only one who has the courage to tell them about themselves because I'm

not afraid of the whites.

I Rather like them They keep us honest, you know, I can't say that I hate the whites

I hate the stuff they do.

Say how they may act.

How they dance.

Hate and love some of their music.

I play the whites music.

Sometimes the whites do music good.

Sometimes they do it bad.

When whites do music, they need to stick to whites music.

Don't try to do blacks music.

A couple whites have gotten away with blacks music.

I'm gonna give Eminem some space.

An R&B singer from the 90s named John B other than that.

Maybe I'll throw a Michael McDonald in there.

I'll keep forgetting.

I'll give him a little bit because he did a song with Chaka Khan.

Take a break, come back, continue our conversation.

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Tutu Reeves says Black can't be racist, but they can be bigoted Let's explore that Let me first start by saying absolutely absolutely black people can be racist We hide behind the fact that some people believe with a narrow definition

That black people can't be racist first thing we say if we say something that is well I shouldn't say if we say something if we execute a function if we do something an Action that is in fact racist will defend ourselves and well black people Can't be racist because racism is race plus power you have to have some kind of power you have to have some kind of influence over another group

Over someone you consider subordinate whether subordinate or not you have the power to put them in a subordinate position if you look at it that way Absolutely black people can be racist.

In fact, we strive to be we love it But we get away with it because we have so convinced the world that we cannot be racist So when we do things as black people well, we're just doing them for the betterment of black people.

We're just looking out for one another We're just sticking up for one another

I worked at WNOV for years and pride myself on bringing that radio station back from radio silence to whatever it is today, which I can't necessarily take credit for.

And in the time that I worked there, six years, I could count on one hand how many white people we hire.

Had a couple of white salespeople, but for some reason Never really worked out and if there was a a Need to hire white salespeople at WNOV it was like hey you white salesperson Go get us some white businesses go get them go get them to advertise here And if they were unable to do that, oh, sorry, it's not working out

But you could simply say, well, they weren't meeting their sales goals or hitting what their quota is.

The longest.

Serving, I guess.

Caucasian employee that I saw WNV and we used to just I used to shake my head at it.

She cleaned the toilets.

That's what she was the she was the toilet cleaning lady.

She cleaned the bathrooms and then she'd leave.

If you think about places that like companies and corporations that may not have a lot of black people in the sea suites or in upper management or middle management Go to that same business maybe after 5 p.m.

Or after 6 p.m.

And see who's cleaning the toilets to see who's emptying out the garbage cans That's where you'll find the black people or more often than not the Latinos in the Hispanics I could say that's a functional racism like we won't hire the black people to do important roles management roles, but we'll have them

take out the trash and clean our toilets.

So in the event that black people have power, and they opt to use that power to further the agendas of other black people at the expense of white people, that 100% is racist.

I could give you an example of a black city where you got black millionaires, and in the case of Tyler Perry,

Black billionaires Atlanta when they had the who was their black mayor?

Maynard Ferguson They built Atlanta's infrastructure with almost a hundred percent black contractors didn't hire no white contractors to build the Hartfield Airport all black contract man It was like no no no no no only black people getting contracts.

I'm sure there were probably some

Qualified Caucasian construction firms, engineering firms, excavating firms.

If they got contracts, they got peanuts.

You think that's not racist?

Imagine somewhere in America.

A city that is not just a plurality African American.

But majority black, like 60%, 65%.

And let's say.

In this city, maybe it's a fictional city.

Maybe it isn't.

There's a neighborhood or a couple of census tracts where the white folks just haven't left.

There's still some whites there.

They're hanging on for dear life.

They want to leave, but they can't.

And let's say we know where the white neighborhood is because that is where they traditionally own homes.

Maybe that's where.

Their businesses are maybe that's where their ancestry settled.

And what is now a majority black city?

Follow me.

I'm going somewhere with this.

I'm going to illustrate black racism because if we're going to be honest, we got to be honest about all of the different ways that people can be in fact racist.

Yeah, you can be a bigot.

A bigotry is more like a cultural thing, like not liking gays, not liking Jews, not liking Christians, thinking that all Muslims are going to put us under Sharia law.

Why is that bad maybe sharia law might help I don't know I Think I went to high school with a girl named Sharia, but she wasn't Muslim.

She was black, but whatever So imagine this city where there's and there's a black Mayor there's black political leadership in this majority black fictional maybe non-fictional city black mayor black council members a Lot of the businesses and the wealthier businesses a lot of the employers also black, okay?

There's a neighborhood or two or a couple of census tracts where white people still live and if In the course of budgeting for the black city Because you got to save resources you got a penny pinch.

You don't want to tax people out of oblivion.

That's not very nice

They have to do some cutting and sometimes cities, they got to cut things.

They got to cut out certain departments.

They got to reduce staff because taxpayers don't like paying for all this big fat bloated government.

Taxpayers, in my opinion, want to lean government.

It works real good as streamlined and as fast and policies hit the ground immediately.

The street lights when they blow out they get changed and the snow gets plowed and the garbage gets picked up And if there's a nuisance property it gets taken care of right away.

We like a fast government, but you have to You got to make sure that you are doing some cutting so you have a nice lean and efficient streamlined government Let's say in this magical black city

Black leadership black mayor black council members the business owners are black the whole the institutions are black They got a black college and a black university.

In fact, this city is so black.

I might be scared to go there And they say we got to cut some things Some services and they cut out a couple of polling places because they say well, you know these polling places are

Really expensive to run and to manage and we want to save taxpayer dollars and if that black city reduced or cut the polling places in that white neighborhood in those white census tracks a hundred percent ladies and gentlemen that is racism not only is that racism executed by the leadership of this black city that is black people

exercising institutional racism by making it more difficult or slightly more inconvenient for their white citizens to vote and black people would do it.

Once you get power, you can exact revenge on those that exacted revenge on you.

Why do you think they're so scared right now?

Why do you think they're so afraid of replacement theory?

Their biggest nightmare.

Other than us sleeping with their wives unless they like it sometimes they like that sometimes They like that in controlled environments, but their biggest fear is that if we get into power We will do to them What they have done to us and I can't say that we won't I don't know we'll have to see The truth with Sherwin Hughes on one on one seven FM will be right back

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The pole is it's hovering right around 50% Half of you for the most part have a little bit of racism in you just a little a little tinge of it.

I Think it's built into pretty much every culture as Protectionist it could even be as simple as it was ingrained in you

by your parents, your family, or even your entire community, maybe even by society, that you don't bring a mate, a boyfriend or girlfriend home that is of a different race.

You have to keep your race and your bloodline pure.

We don't want any interracials.

No interracial families, no interracial dating.

Some people don't want their kids to date outside the race.

Ladies and gentlemen, that comes from a kind of self-preservation that is synonymous with racism.

Because you want your race released or family to remain pure One of the ways in which that barrier gets broke down It let's say you got a Caucasian family proud of their white heritage And there's always that daughter They knew when she was little that she loved the chocolate boys You know that daughter that always wanted to play with a black doll instead of the white doll

You know, that daughter that just loved hip-hop music more than everybody else in the family.

She watched a lot of BET.

She can quote many episodes of Martin.

Sometimes that just happens in families.

You got a whole white family.

They weren't even really exposed to a lot of African-American culture, but sometimes every now and again, it's always that daughter.

You know, she hangs out in the hood.

She gets her driver's license, and she hangs out on zeroth and locust.

Negative 19th and burlite, because, you know, the lower the street number, the worse the neighborhood is.

And then she brings home a black boyfriend.

All the father is irate.

How can you do this to us?

The father takes a personal.

I raised you better than this.

Why did you bring home this black boy?

Dad, I love him.

Oh, drafts.

Blast for me.

Then she gets pregnant.

Father wants to kick her out the house.

Mother says no.

It's our daughter.

Even though she's carrying a Mongrel's baby, she's still our daughter.

And then that baby is born.

The first one to melt is the racist father.

He's a grandpa now.

First grandbaby is a little chocolate milk colored little baby.

I ain't gonna lie to you, a mixed baby is beautiful.

Mean they can grow up to be ugly people You got like probably a 25% of this country Like wanting a mixed baby which that's the kind of racism to that's like genetically engineering a perfectly chocolate milk colored human That's gonna have an identity crisis, but that's neither here nor there.

Let's not cuz America makes it difficult.

I think I know

You know back in the day when we weren't really politically correct.

I probably said some things about one of my best friends was biracial But I don't we didn't use the term biracial you were mixed or Back in the day if we didn't know what somebody was if they were racially ambiguous You guys remember how that used to bother us and we would try to find like clues like oh their nose is wide They got some black and then look at the texture of that hair because you got to know What race this person is that you're looking at that you're talking to that you're interacting with because it helps you

Essentially stereotypes so you know what box to put them in which is a terrible thing That we used to do, but I literally remember asking people this and hearing other people Ask this if you didn't know what somebody's race was you can't do this anymore.

Please don't do this Those of you that are listening don't try this because it's not nice But if you want to try it, let me know how it goes

You look at somebody, you're looking at them right in their face and you got to squint a little bit because boy are you struggling to figure out what race they are.

And then finally you can't help yourself and you say, what are you?

And I'll be like, huh?

Because they may not know what exactly you're asking.

But if I hear someone ask another person who appears to be racially ambiguous, if I hear somebody say, hey, what are you?

I know exactly what they're asking.

In fact, my ears perk up because I'm thinking to myself, yeah, I'd love to know what they are, too.

And you ask this person, what are you?

They might say I'm a Capricorn.

They might say I'm hungry.

They may not know that you are asking what their racial ethnicity, what their heritage is.

Now, you're not supposed to do that.

But sometimes, don't you want to know?

You're not supposed to need to know.

But I sometimes want to know.

I don't know what you are.

It helps me understand.

It also could be a conversation piece.

You might be some very interesting combination of things.

Here's my thoughts on white supremacy.

I'm going to keep them very brief because they're not complicated thoughts.

And some of you probably have thoughts on white supremacy too.

It still works.

It has a function that is.

In existence today, and I would say it's still got some political strength.

I don't know how much I think its political strength wears down with the changing demographics of the country because at some point, race and racism and who holds it and who benefits from it is going to be a function of the demographics of this country.

If white people.

The majority of whom are middle class or lower.

In fact, I wouldn't doubt if the majority of white people now are probably near the poverty line.

So let's say this country gets to a point where it's only like 10 or 15% white.

And the 10 or 15% of the white population left in this country, and maybe 100 years from now if we haven't blown ourselves up.

Let's say we're down to 10 or 15% white population.

And if they're racist, nobody will care.

Go shut up go over there.

You're only 10% of the population 90% of the people in this country are not white.

Nobody really cares what you think, but here's here's my My opinion on white supremacy.

It's very simple if They believe that black people are inferior That we have lower intelligence We have less IQ

That we are subhuman were just a step above an animal if they if they believe that and trust me when I tell you there are some that do believe that Because there was a whole branch of pseudo science that was dedicated to showing how African Americans were not only inferior.

We deserve to be slaves So if they truly believe that here's the thing they don't because if you believe that black people Were a lower order of being you could give us all the resources and all the opportunity

And we never would excel because we're a lower order of being.

There would be no need to withhold and deprive us of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

If you truly believe white supremacists, that we were a lower order of being.

So white supremacy is not the fact that they think they're superior.

It's the fact that they know they're inferior.

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Welcome to our two of the truth with Sherwin Hughes During our one We had an interesting discussion.

I believe about race and racism It relates to our YouTube poll question if you go to youtube.com or open up your YouTube app from your smartphone or other mobile device search one on one seven the truth and hit subscribe and you will be essentially walking through the pearly gates of black talk radio

Is there some part of you that's just a little bit racist and it might not be your fault Maybe in your formative years you were just bombarded with a tremendous amount of racial bias.

Maybe you heard your parents Or your community maybe even at your school your church a lot of negative things about other races and maybe you heard negative things about Asians

or negative things about Mexicans or migrants and it's just kind of in you and you know it stays with you.

The things about childhood are so fascinating because as adults we're still just living out bits and pieces of our childhood.

Now we can recognize things and negative patterns and try to extinguish them and try to learn and grow but it's really, really hard.

A lot of times who you are is a person.

It's formed by the childhood that you have.

It's why even if you saw a lot of negative behaviors that you knew were wrong, you knew were hurtful, sometimes you find yourself exhibiting those same behaviors or at least exhibiting those same thoughts that you saw as a child.

It's a crazy, crazy thing.

And if your formative years had lots of racial bias in them, and maybe it was for protectionism, your family wanted your family to remain intact and no outside dating, maybe.

Maybe you know how black parents will sit their black child down and say, hey, you got to be careful out there in the world.

There's some people that don't like you.

They're going to judge you.

You know, you got to act a certain way around the police.

You know how you have to give black children that talk.

Black boys in particular, because that talk can save their lives.

Now, I think it's horrible that such a talk needs to be had.

In fact, you have that talk with your black boy before you have the talk about the birds and the bees.

Very uncomfortable conversation with my mother about the birds and the bees.

I didn't like it because she used The proper names for anatomy I Didn't like it and I told her I was like Emma stop calling it a penis.

Oh It's so I'm traumatized from that and she was like here just here's here's a book just read read the book.

Oh

So awful.

It's still traumatized.

But how'd you learn about the birds and the bees Xavier on the street?

Oh, just a lots of

video tapes.

That's not a good way to learn that.

Oh, I learned a lot and it's helped me out to this day.

Haven't had any complaints.