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of the truth for sure when Hughes make sure you continue listening we're gonna give away some Bryson tiller tickets we should give away some tickets to go see Clarissa she agreed to come back on the show by the way oh yeah when whenever I say so oh you got like that come on now come on dog look who you talking to me let me know let me know showing let me know what works for you it's on my availability this is an opportunity

For her so of course she gonna be on my time and I I'm gonna take a picture with her this time

Okay,

you know, I didn't want to take a picture I don't want to look like too much of a groupie because that's not cool to be a man groupie.

Yeah, you know, I got your film shots of With you and Eric Holder Yeah, that got to do with Clarissa my god, you just you taking photos, you know That was the last photo I ever took of you with a guest cuz you I don't usually don't yeah, I know I hate it

Because

I don't I don't like it We need a policy Because if I don't what if I don't like you You know how embarrassing it is because it's usually a whole bunch of people in the studio So there'll be a guest or whatever, but they'll have like a whole damn entourage

And entourage is sometimes during the producer studio.

Sometimes they're out in a little lobby area.

So when the interview is over, the whole entourage comes in here with a damn cell phone.

Oh, can we get the pictures?

And sometimes I'm not dressed to take a picture.

And also, I don't know where that picture is going to go.

And I don't even see the pictures.

What if it's a bad picture for me?

I don't like I'm just I don't like it.

But then if you say no pictures, you should see the looks on their faces.

It looks like you just killed their kitten.

No, no, thank you.

I'm not taking it.

But if I like no, no, no, that's that's me having a boundary, you know what's crazy?

Somebody being offended when you don't want to take a picture is nuts I Should be able to say screw you not taking a picture with you.

I don't know you like that what you gonna do with the picture masturbate to it

Possibly

exactly.

I don't need that.

That's not I don't want to take a picture like oh, we're in taking

We're taking a bunch of pictures now and then oh no here take one with my phone here Here take my phone here.

I want no no let's get another angle here.

I'm gonna take three of them like I only have a couple of minutes from when a guest leaves until when my next segment starts and They have no concept to that.

I got so much I can say about guests.

Oh Sometimes they're so bad.

Sometimes they're wonderful.

They're media trained or if they've done interviews before it's easy It's like walking the park.

It's like cake very easy

And then these are my favorite people.

Interview is over because everybody comes in nervous.

Everybody's nervous.

If you've never done radio before, I don't know what it is, but people say, oh, oh my God, they're all looking around.

They're all timid.

And then we get to talking and I engage them and they're usually talking about something they're very familiar with or something they're very knowledgeable on.

And then they get comfortable, right?

And the next thing you know, right, the interview goes well.

So we complete our segment.

And then they say some mess like that's it.

We're done already We're that's all that was fun and they just and they sit here Like I'm gonna automatically change my mind and want to do another 30 minutes because you got comfortable and I hope I'm not being too harsh, but I just have to be honest about Interviewing people that's why I don't even really like interviewing people anymore.

In fact It's one of my least favorite things to do because most people

Most people are not that interesting unless they are in fact very interesting people.

But most people very dry and boring.

Hopefully your interview on Friday will be riveting the hole with Mamie.

I guarantee it.

This will be one for the ages.

I'm looking forward to that.

You guys should literally do, you know, a taste test together.

I'm not gonna be in the food reviewer space because It's already saturated with people

you already kind of do it, you know when some pizzas brought in some Rubens are brought in, you know you're You're munching away

But I would hate to have to

Be required.

Well, if you're a food part like you got to constantly be turning out content You got to constantly go to new restaurants You got to constantly go and try out some of these menus and first of all it gets expensive And I would hope that whatever content I make by eating somebody else's food would generate enough revenue to cover Cover what the restaurant bills are going on to eat ladies and gentlemen.

It's insanely expensive And if you go to three four five six restaurants a week because that's the kind of content you're producing

That's hundreds of bucks.

And then you got to leave tips.

Oh, no.

I like the places that I like and I go to the play last night.

I was, man, we tore the city up yesterday.

It's feeling a little bored.

Couple of friends, like, hey, man, where are you at?

Because they know I'm done at noon.

I was like, I'm in my skin.

Where y'all at?

It's like, come on down to the public market.

I said, public market, say less.

So we started off at the.

They got a little wine bar in the public market.

Let me let me tell you something I Thought these people because I met them at two o'clock.

I met my friends at 2 p.m.

First of all, don't you people that are at the wine bar at two in the afternoon have jobs?

That's the first thing why is it so many people there, but it was all women Women sitting around at the wine bar two o'clock in the afternoon and they weren't together.

They were separate So there you go.

And then of course we had to go to the Tiki bar

You got to go to the tiki bar at the Milwaukee public market.

That's If you know, you know, so then we went to the tiki, okay?

After the tiki We went to go check out the big because one of our friends had been to the big he was just there the day before and he liked it so he was there for brunch He was like y'all we got to go to the big I said I'll go to the big and so here's the thing about the big there are two parking structures

right next to each other.

Well,

we parked in the wrong parking structure.

We parked in the God free and con law firm parking structure.

So I found a reserve spot, which you never park in a reserve spot.

And then I parked the vehicle and we take the elevator down and the man at the front desk says, you can't even be in here.

You can't.

Why are you here?

You, you're not a client of God free and con.

This is our parking structure for our lawyers, our attorneys and our clients.

You gotta leave.

I was like, you gotta be nicer.

And so I had to go back and then get in my car and he's like, you want to go to the parking structure next door.

We're not affiliated with the big and he was like, people keep coming here.

They keep parking.

So whenever you go to the big, you're better off taking the streetcar because the streetcar tracks drop you off right at the front door of the big, which is on the east of Michigan.

I believe the address is nine oh nine.

Don't ruin it, though.

If I find out you all are going to the big and acting a fool and not tipping, I will have something to say about that.

I'm telling you, don't ruin it.

So we get there.

It's just like a wonderland.

It's beautifully appointed and decorated and the staff is very friendly and you have these incredible views of the Discovery World Museum and Lake Michigan.

It's very nice Beautiful place and then and then After I had some lobster tacos three for ten bucks by the way at the big they got a nice little happy hour menu Well, we weren't done off after that

Had to bring my friends to the 3rd Street Market Hall and give them a tour of our studios here at the 3rd Street Market Hall So we came out Zack was here jazz was broadcasting So we came and did a little tour here hung out for a little bit at the at the bar there at the 3rd Street Market Hall Not done yet

Got to go one more place.

They had to end the night at Mo's because I wanted a Caesar salad with anchovies.

And so that's where the night ended.

I had a great day yesterday.

No wonder why you're not doing huge views.

That's too much.

You know what I mean?

It was too much.

And I got to be at home at seven o'clock.

That's, you know, and we had a good summer.

This was a very productive summer.

I got a lot out of this summer.

And I noticed doing that podcast five days a week.

It takes away, you know, my personal time in my social life.

Not that I don't love talking to you guys with that format, but nah.

How about two to three times a week?

No, because I need to be able to answer the call of something social.

You know

what I'm saying?

Oh

yeah, like booty.

I'm done here at noon.

That podcast doesn't start until seven, which that's the first mistake, but I don't want to compete with any of the other shows.

On one on one seven the truth because I wouldn't want that I want at the time We had just made the transition to our new shows and they weren't performing they're performing way better now I was I don't want to offer an alternative while

nitty is on

you know what I mean, so I Don't know I'm gonna do another one But it's got to be something significant to talk about maybe we'll do another debate watch party Maybe I don't know we'll see there's a lot

of significant things

It's you because you follow everything

Congress ending early so they can't impeach Pete Hedzick Congress also in the early so they can't do the second round of the Epstein files

All of this stuff does is spin the wheels of the American people we get been out of say this is why liberal media and I used to be MSNBC MS now fan because they've got real journalists

But now I can't stand it because there well Donald Trump clearly can't do that because it's illegal But he does it anyway, and they spend the next hour talking about Donald Trump is doing all these illegal things But nobody has the power to stop it all they do is they just get themselves Worked up in a frenzy for an entire hour or two hour program It's of no value whatsoever Get the American people all angry and all mad and stuff that they're not gonna fix They're not gonna change because remember half of the people in this country voted for this and telling the people in the country that voted for

that they were stupid for voting for this is literally a waste of everybody's time and then there's all the stuff that's going on internationally and I'll be honest with you couldn't care less don't care you're not care black kids in the city of Milwaukee can't read don't care about Israel not even a little bit came and make me care I'm sorry Palestine it's not cool what they're doing to you but also not cool that black kids can't do third-grade math when they're in high school

So, I gotta take the good with the bad in any amount of time or effort or energy that I dedicate to something else, somewhere else.

The city in which I live in, like when I look out of my window, if all of that is dilapidated and if my city is suffering, I don't care what's going on in Argentina, I don't care who they're going to war with, couldn't care less, because guess what?

The people in Argentina don't care about us.

Well, how about the Palantir thing now?

We're being surveilled.

I'm talking about the thing, the water thing.

Oh, you know, that's updates on that.

Yeah.

Apparently, they're not going to use talents here for their whatever data collection they're doing.

They said they're going to go with Google or Microsoft.

But the company got voted in.

Well, their proposal is $54 million less than their competitor.

And by law, government agencies have got to take the lowest bid.

So the biggest concern was were they gonna use Palantir to do additional data collection on people who?

Have their water services through MMSD.

They say they're not but I don't know who knows about that But that's got it, but it's because it impacts us right here in Milwaukee like what Palantir is doing like in Sacramento, California or Fresno, California or Boise, Idaho absolutely couldn't care less.

I cannot be focused on nor care about

What's happening in another city?

Mostly because what I know about the talk radio audience that has listened to me for many many years They don't care about Boise, Idaho either.

They want to know what the hell is going on in their city so they can make sense out of what they see when they leave the house I let to the extent that something happening in Boise, Idaho Translates directly to what's going on here in Milwaukee.

Well, then sure I'll talk about Boise, Idaho, but for the most part don't care

Don't care about what's happening in Kenosha There's a bunch of stuff happening in Kenosha and Racine.

Well, we clearly know how I feel about that But it's got to make sense to people here How do we improve our lives and how do we better educate and inform people about Milwaukee?

It's a very complicated city believe it or not a lot of problems for a little small podunk town Not even a lot of people here You would think that once we identify a social problem in this city we could have it eradicated in 15 minutes.

Nope

No, no changes, things get worse.

Can't really figure out how to solve problems here.

We manage them and we build an entire government or social service non-profit infrastructure around managing problems that we just can't seem to fix.

Very frustrating and I'm starting to hear.

the culmination of the frustration because now you're hearing people say these people need to leave the city.

They need to get out of here.

No more section eight.

We got to get them the hell out of here.

That's a real extreme solution.

But the problems are not resolving themselves because I know that people remember when Milwaukee was a lot better, a lot safer, a lot calmer, a lot nicer.

Was it always perfect?

It wasn't.

Was it better?

Yep.

So to that extent Don't really care what Trump is doing right now unless Trump is launching a nuclear weapon and even then okay, I Still be like yeah, we still have four hours left here in Milwaukee.

I'd still make it local Yeah, well he launched the weapons We're good until 3 p.m.

Here in Milwaukee, so go ahead and have sex with that person you've wanted to sleep with since high school.

I Know exactly where I'm going Jack

If they launched I know exactly whose house I'm going to where you going?

Lady B's house.

Oh She been quiet today.

Where's she at?

Do we make her mad?

Well, I'm gonna I was gonna start calling her manly be

don't do that.

Oh

She I did for a while think she was a total catfish I thought she was a man, but then she called the podcast and she actually has a fairly pleasant speaking voice Assuming that was her

We heard from her in a while Why don't we do this?

Take a break come back.

Can we have those pictures Xavier of the ready already?

Okay, so converse Was I guess they commissioned some ad company to create an ad for their Malaysian market And there's two versions of this picture

One of the versions is cropped and I don't know who cropped it, but it looks like and it gives the visual imagery of two feet hanging and Then the shadow of what appears to be a pointy white hat Which is symbolic of the uniform and the regalia worn by the Ku Klux Klan, but when you look at the full ad

It tells a different story.

So we're gonna take a break and when we come back go to YouTube and I want to hear from you all what you think about this controversial Converse print ad where it appears that Two black feet are hanging.

They're dangling as if someone is being lynched and then the shadow which forms the top part of the converse star looks like the

the headwear or the hat.

The mask worn by a member of the KKK will put that up on the YouTube on the other side.

The truth with Sherwin Hughes will be right

back.

Welcome back to program We're gonna get through it.

We're all right We move on a fly here Y'all only knew what happened behind the scenes.

All right, Xavier.

Do you have the?

the ad up On the YouTube I don't see it the conference at Yes

Want to know what people think about this some of you maybe They've already seen this ad so first of all I don't wear Converse cuz I just don't never own a pair of Chuck Taylor's in my life never even wanted a pair of Chuck Taylor's they just They don't even look like a that's not a shoe.

I want to wear Looks flimsy You can't kick somebody real good.

We're a Chuck Taylor Exactly.

It's all canvas and it's just now.

It's very recognizable.

It's iconic, but so are nikes

Alright, here we go.

So this is the ad ladies and gentlemen Can you put both pictures up there Xavier because there's is that possible?

Because this shows the full ad like this looks normal to me like she's standing but also if you look at the shadow on her skirt There you go right there.

Is it possible to put them side by side?

Okay when you guys see this because you can't see In the cropped version

You can't see that it's her arm holding a pair of Chuck Taylor's.

And what appears to be the points he had of a Klansman is actually the top of the star.

She's standing in the middle of a converse star.

I suppose I can see how someone, an American in particular, an African American specifically, may interpret this as a cropped photo depicting.

a lynching.

Are you able to get them both up there?

All right, Xavier's finagling the pictures.

So, Jasmine Jazz West said they knew what they were doing with the converse, but did they though?

Because this is a Southeast Asian, this was not for the American market.

And so here's the thing about Americans, we're going to look for racial terror anywhere we can see it because we expect it.

And if you are a nation that does not have the same history as us, and maybe it was malicious, I don't know, every so often, like didn't Target do something, they had a costume or something at Target that depicted something racial.

And sometimes these companies do this to get the controversy, to get the publicity, because it brings attention to that company.

And sometimes publicity is good, sometimes controversy is good.

Have no idea because I know that this ad was made for Southeast Asian market and maybe they're aware of lynching But what would the point of this even be because if this is a global ad or let's just say it was an ad that was To be shown to consumers in Asia Why would an Asian consumer in South Korea Japan?

Vietnam equate this with the American lynching of black people

That is something that we would interpret like this.

There's probably things that we do here in America that might be wholly offensive to Chinese people.

There might be symbols that we use or ads that we create that are very offensive to people in other countries and we literally have no idea.

Like we may have customs here in America that if we did those same customs somewhere else, it would be really upsetting to those people, but it would be based on our ignorance.

So maybe just do it one at a time, Xavier, if you can't do them.

Oh, they're both up.

OK.

Oh, there we go.

OK.

See what I'm saying, ladies and gentlemen?

So if you look at the full ad, I mean, I

don't know.

Maybe.

Maybe.

I don't what do you think he's they ever you think that they did this on purpose?

I don't think they did on purpose honestly I think people are seeing what they want to see but I do get there there I Don't know there This pleasure with that But yeah, no, I don't to me when I see it I Just see you know, I don't know but

I had to like people had to explain it to me for me to see it.

You know what I mean?

I mean when I first saw it out because I saw the cropped version.

I didn't see the full version.

I had to go and search for the full version because they took it down right away.

Ladies and gentlemen, what is the name of the sporting goods store?

I think it's in the Mayfair collection.

Is that Dick's sporting goods?

Correct, okay, I Don't know if they still have this decorative lighting up in front of Dick's sporting goods So at the Mayfair collection right across from my about 114th and Burla and why would so so?

But they have these so you see the the cone looking hat on the The shadow here of the ad that we have up on our YouTube right now that that can't mistake it

that pointy hat.

Dick sporting goods at the Mayfair collection has three white pointy hat looking things as a part of their decoration right in front of the store.

That to me is way more obvious, way, way, way more obvious of clan symbolism, what they have in front of Dick sporting goods at the Mayfair collection than this is.

And I don't know if anybody has said anything about that.

So I think it's just a matter of.

Interpretation grab a telephone call shall we our phone number is a 3 3 2 1 2 1 0 1 7 a 3 3 2 12 10 17 I suppose I can see at the crop version of this picture that we have up on the YouTube that someone could interpret that as a clan Hatch or headwear and then the feet hanging because you can't see that that's a woman's arm holding those shoes it does a little bit

Kind of looks like let's talk to Al from Sherman Park.

You're on one on one seven the truth.

How are you?

Doing well, how about yourself sure

doing okay?

What's on your mind?

Oh

Yeah, I'm gonna talk about the Congress ad.

Okay.

I'm gonna say What I quickly looked at I thought it kind of looked like a person hanging but then I looked at it closely I could kind of see there was like an arm dangling some shoes, but I wouldn't ever jump to

that it was a clan image.

And then I came across some research where the vice president of North American marketing is African American.

I don't think he intentionally approved that.

And then when I looked at it, he wouldn't

have done this ad because this ad was for the Malaysian market.

So somebody who is doing ads for commerce in America probably wouldn't be exposed to this at all.

So we had to go across the pond to find this edge that we outraged about.

I just think it's a Rorschach test for if you see, I guess, oppression and racism in everything without, I guess, doing deeper dives to kind of question your imagination a moment, you know?

Because like I said, when I looked at it, it looked like a person hanging, but then I looked at it, you know, closer.

I don't know.

just uh someone holding some shoes and it could probably could have been lit better but if it wasn't for our market then I think we're being a bit outraged over nothing and I do wonder if we have like as African-Americans in America

trauma

trauma we see racism or find it in every little thing and that's got to be exhausting and mentally training

Find me something in America that

has.

Find me anything in this nation, anything in this nation that has some kind of a documented history that was not at one point in time, racially biased, prohibited or oppressive to black people.

You can't find anything.

The reason why we don't have free health care, the reason why we have.

College tuition why states no longer subsidized college tuition is because when black people could get admitted to schools now all of a sudden we have to pay for it Everything in this nation has got something traceable back to slavery.

Does that mean that every single thing in this nation right now is racist?

No, but it has a history of it There are very few things that exist in this nation that did not start either to benefit or

Benefit white people or harm black people so that part I thoroughly understand and when we are reminded of these images All this is doing is just showing us what America actually is but I'm gonna share with you and thank you for your call There's a few other things that I think might Cause African Americans to believe that this was very much an intentional doing The year 2020 the name Malcolm harsh Victorville, California found hanging from a tree tree near a homeless encampment

Family initially questioned suicide.

The FBI and the DOJ reviewed the case.

Authorities ultimately said the evidence supports suicide the year 2020.

The name Robert Fuller, age 24, Palmdale, California, found hanging from a tree near City Hall.

Initial suicide assessment produced major protests and an FBI review ultimately ruled a suicide the year 2020.

The name Dominique Alexander, age 27, New York City, New York.

found hanging from a tree in Fort Tyron Park medical examiner ruled a suicide.

The year was 2020.

Undenified slash other black Houston case reported nationally from Houston, Texas, part of the cluster of public hanging deaths that attracted national attention in June 2020.

Authorities reported indications of suicide, contemporary reporting counted for black men, at least among.

at least five found hanging publicly during that period of the year 2021.

Makayla Miller, 16 year old girl, Hoppington, Massachusetts.

Black teenager found hanging from a tree.

Authorities concluded suicide 2024.

DeNorris Richardson, age 35, Colbert County out.

I'm just getting started.

I'm just getting started with these.

Black people have been found hanging from trees mysteriously.

Damn near every four weeks for the last seven years all them rule suicides And so when this ad comes up showing someone's feet dangling and the depiction of a clan hat, what are we supposed to think it is?

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It's just so now I'm gonna take a break, right?

And then we're going to give away tickets, like really soon.

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The year was 2024, DeNorris Richardson aged 39, Colbert County, Alabama, found hanging in an abandoned house.

Sheriff's Office ruled suicide.

Wife strongly disputes it, particularly noteworthy because Richardson had sued Sheffield Police alleging abuse.

Sheriff subsequently requested an FBI investigation slash review.

The year was 2025.

DeMar Trevion, Trey Reed, Cleveland, Mississippi.

Delta State University student found hanging from a tree on campus, authorities ruled suicide.

No evidence of foul play.

Family retained attorney Ben Crump and sought an independent investigation slash autopsy.

The year 2026 Kyle Basinga Cobb County, Georgia found hanging in a park Investigators said there was no indication of foul play case nevertheless generated substantial community concern How I'm so I'm baffled by this y'all and not a lot of stuff baffles me We have there's cameras everywhere you can't get away with anything

However, I did accidentally take a case of water from the metro market a couple years ago because I totally forgot it was on the bottom part of my shopping cart.

No, I totally forgot.

I had a bunch of groceries in my cart.

You know, you got groceries in the cart and you put something on the bottom shelf.

When you're looking at the car, you can't see what's on the bottom shelf.

went to the checkout line and they scanned all my stuff and I'm missing the cash you're missing and I got to the car I was like oh snap there's water under here but I'm already at the car what I'm gonna do because what if I go back in the store and they said get on the ground inward you stole that water no no no I'm trying to bring the water back so I figured I just put it in my car and I'm but so you can get away with very few things in today's world because everything

Is under surveillance there's security cameras.

There's ring cameras and in all of these cases which I find Just shocking there's no footage.

How do you?

Unless they killed the person and then hung them I Suspect foul play in all these because this and there's a there's a rash of these quote-unquote suicides all African Americans

in the last couple of years, but nobody sees anything.

My camera that I have on my house is like it sees a quarter mile of my block and either I see everything.

Sometimes when I'm bored, I just watch the block.

But with these situations, nobody saw anything.

Xavier, what was you going to say?

Well, I was going to say, well, we already know there's been a massive infiltration of our police of our police all across country.

with white supremacy.

Oh,

we've known that the FBI pointed that out.

James Comey found that out in 2006 during the Bush administration.

Here's what happened.

They found that white national and this is he said it was such a problem.

It was a threat to national security.

And this is literally 20 years ago.

And the FBI director of the time, James Comey was like, yo, I'm putting everybody on alert that white supremacist groups or members of these groups are joining local law enforcement, not for the reason that you think.

Not to terrorize not there's some of that that's gonna happen But black people could be terrorized by the police without a person being a former former Formal member of a white supremacist group They would Because this is back when Investigations were handled internally very few police departments now in the modern era Handle their own investigations, right?

So let's say an officer was accused of malfeasance those

colleagues of that officer would investigate that officer and all the times, most of the time they would clear that officer, right?

So these white supremacists were joining local law enforcement so they could be a part of the internal investigation to clear white officers when they were accused of excessive force malfeasance, et cetera, et cetera.

And so this was put on the nation's radar.

at a law enforcement conference that James Comey headed up back in 2006 during the Bush administration.

So we've been aware, but I don't.

Maybe this has something to do with law enforcement, but a lot of times the black person is with just like a group of friends and then all we lost them.

We didn't know where he went after nine o'clock and then now he's found hanging in a tree.

Juliana Zeta.

Charlotte, North Carolina found hanging from a tree on a church property Authorities determined suicide her family questioned that determination and circumstances surrounding the scene 2026 it just says black men unidentified person age 32 from Raleigh, North Carolina found hanging from a tree and it's and they're always hanging from trees not I guess what else can you hang somebody from?

I

Don't I

pull that's a climb

That's how come nobody is seeing anything?

2026 Smith age 58 Albany, New York found hanging from a tree in June authorities determined suicide Tasia fortune and it's women to their age 29 Jackson, Mississippi found hanging from a tree behind an abandoned home August 3rd medical examiner subsequently ruled the death of homicide Jarquees Ratliff

Was arrested in charge with murder he is pleaded not guilty police said additional arrests were possible That sounds like a black person to hung another black person that's rude check out the film one

teaspoon

of chocolate Demetrius Eugene Fleming Roanoke Rapids, North Carolina found hanging August 21st as of September 17th reporting police were still awaiting medical examiner reports of the manner of death

Should not be characterized as suicide or homicide Okay, we're Al we got it.

We can't take Al's call.

Can we know we can't Al you can't we can't talk to you or can we If

it's a minute

long Al can you get it done in a minute?

Yes, okay

Only thing I was gonna say affectionated so good why you don't got a Panera's in the meadow.

Have a good day.

Oh, thank

you.

All right.

Bye.

Bye

Bye-bye Xavier what do I do now?

Well,

I do anything time

to give away some tickets.

Okay.

How do I do it?

I swear I've never

done this.

How about it?

I'll start it off.

You gotta play this.

I'll hit the key for you.

Okay

do that And now I read this part true station, I think it's about that does this the part what I read this is I'm botching this whole thing.

Oh, no, you got it

We're starting from the top here.

I'll play the thing and then you'll start from the top

Truth nation, it's about that time call right now at 833-212-1017 You've been listening and waiting for your chance to win tickets to go see Bryson tiller and In person at the American family insurance amphitheater on the summerfest grounds and now's your chance to win a pair of tickets call right now

A 3 3 2 1 2 1 0 1 7.

We're about to play a game called name that song, but why call before they hear the song?

Somebody already calling Say you don't know the song yet person What's about to happen is Xavier is about to play

One of our favorite song from who was not necessarily one of our favorite song But whatever about to play a song from Bryson tiller and if you can call in and guess the name of the song correctly You can win a pair of tickets to go see Bryson tiller live.

It's that simple.

That's not simple at all like 38 steps This is Sherwin Hughes on the award-winning one-on-one seven the truth truth nation are you ready Xavier play that song and take us to break

Can't ignore me So give me all of you in exchange for me Just give me all of you in exchange for me for me break it down

That should be enough the truth was sure when he was a beer I pack

The truth with Sherwin Hughes returns after this on 1017 the truth the truth app and 1017 the truth.com This is the truth with Sherwin Hughes on 1017 the truth the truth app and 1017 the

truth.com

Just give me all of you in exchange for me for me break it down

That's easy That's

All

right, so

I guess you're gonna take some calls and find out how easy it was Which one do I take I guess I get to pick

Yeah, I guess.

Well, I can think we go, you know, in order.

In order, yes.

All right, let's talk to... Is this Christina?

Yes, it is.

What's the name of that song by Bryce and Tiller, Christina, for a pair of Bryce and Tiller tickets?

Could it possibly be

exchange?

Congratulations, Christina.

You just won a pair of tickets to go see Bryson Tiller at the American Family Insurance Amphitheater at the Summerfest grounds.

What station makes you a winner?

It's 101.7, baby.

Oh,

yeah.

Hold on, now.

Wait a minute.

Where you going to the show with, now?

Where you going with?

Dude, it might be you.

It might be you.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.

Don't play with me.

I'm too old now.

Don't.

Hang on, Christina.

I love a little salt and pepper now.

Come on now.

Oh, yeah.

I was gonna say it.

I'm not gonna say it, Christina.

Well, I got some salt and pepper for you.

Extra spicy.

Hold on, Christina.

We're gonna get you the information.

Congratulations for winning the pair of tickets to go see Bryson Tillers on to put her on hold.

Let's just talk to Donna for the heck of it.

Hi, Donna.

How are you today?

I'm well.

How are you sharing?

I'm doing all right.

What's on your mind, Donna?

I'm looking, you know, I called and I thought I had won the tickets here and Xavier, I'm literally missing in live.

So, obviously, I didn't win.

Anyways, I'll try again next time.

Christina

won unless you offered something better.

I snatched

them tickets

for her and gave them to you and what you offered.

I'll

just call Christina myself.

It's a few tickets.

I'll just call her if she wants to, you know, take me as a plus one.

She'd rather take me, but thank you for playing, Donna.

Let's talk to Jaden.

You're on one on one, seven the truth.

How are you?

I'm good.

How are you?

It's all women.

I'm doing all right, Jaden.

What's on your mind?

Well, I was trying to win the tickets.

You didn't win them.

Christina won the tickets.

Yeah.

I could

see.

Thank you.

No, thank you.

Thank you.

Okay, hang up now, Jaden.

All right.

No guys, just girls.

All right, then.

They all hung up.

Oh, the guys did.

Fine with me.

Let's read some YouTube chats.

Mr. My D says Professor Hughes lady B is going to get you know she the hell she ain't She ain't gonna get nothing but rejection

What's going on

who else Lady B asked why we don't give away the $5,000 anymore Because we gave away enough $5,000 we probably gave away all man

A hundred grand I betcha something like that That was a nightmare You guys remember we used to give away a hundred one dollars and seventy cents every single day that was just Too much and so we like screw this it's too much paperwork having to do all this a hundred bucks every single day so we went to five thousand dollars every

Think it was every three months, right?

Yeah, so we gave away 20 grand a year for probably five years I Have not heard from a single Winner you'd think that we'd still hear from the people that won a group of 5k.

I met one lady He sure did that's the dude that said he was gonna rent a car and drive to Kentucky

of all the things that people could do with the $5,000.

He said, I'm going to rent a car and drive to Kentucky with three guys.

Really?

That's what you're going to use your 5Gs for?

Sorry.

He's like, yeah, we're going to Kentucky in a car.

To do what?

I don't know.

Ask him.

He's in a damn chat.

He stays in the chat.

He's just talking about everything.

Oh, yeah.

I've put him on time out a couple times.

You had to.

He talks so much in the chat, just about anything that comes to mind.

He'll tell us about the coffee.

He's drinking.

He'll tell us about the weather He'll tell us about his favorite shade of blue literally nothing to do with what the show is about what I'm talking nothing to do with any of that Just talking about how they had electricity in 1947 and the first radio broadcast he ever heard on his transistor radio back in 1952 He just didn't goes on just keeps typing he types so much that other people can't comment

It's amazing how he does that.

It's very impressive and then he sends me emails Reggie, how'd you get my email address?

He's got my personal email.

I hope I didn't give it to you.

I need to stop doing that I Used to make the mistake of giving my email address.

I like old people if you have a story idea Here email me directly stupid because they would email me but have nothing to do with any story ideas Nothing

Sherwin, can I come on the show and hang out with you?

You cannot Don't do that You let Bob hang out with you Bob has a talent Bob played his saxophone with one arm.

Yeah, surprisingly interesting.

We started Because every Monday at 11 o'clock Bob will call in and play the saxophone.

It was just a whole mess.

I was like might as well just get this dude in the studio

till I realized his lack of overall mobility and Bob is a fall risk.

And you know, Bob is, he doesn't move around so good.

You know, when you get older, the biggest threat to your safety and your health and security is falling.

You know how bad I would feel if Bob fell in the studio and never got back up?

I feel terrible.

Then I'd take a saxophone and see if he had any money in his pocket.

I mean, what's he going to do?

He's laying on the ground.

So we decided that that probably wasn't the best idea Then he showed up at my last beyond the mic Didn't invite him.

I mean I invited him obviously everybody's invited But I didn't ask him to play any music do brought a keyboard and a saxophone And had to have our staff help him set it up and he actually did okay, you know people very much enjoyed it Congratulations to Christina.

She won a ticket

see Bryson Tiller.

I guess I'm gonna go with her.

Probably a terrible mistake.

Thank you guys for listening.

Have yourselves a wonderful day.

Up next you will find the always exciting and entertaining lunch break featuring maybe Shannon and Ray Nitty.

Reggie says

Do you remember where is it?

So when I took drivers that there was not a second steering wheel

But there my instructor had a brake pedal on the passenger side Miss Willoughby.

I'll never forget miss Willoughby She used to hit that brake pedal a lot on Sherwin She was real calm too.

She'd be in a car just like filing her nails and just like talking about her family and then she would look up boom slam on the brakes I'd almost fly through the windshield, but I do not recall When did y'all take drivers in and what the hell kind of car was that they retrofitted with a second steering wheel?

So hang on a second.

You mean to tell me that there were vehicles that had a steering wheel on the passenger side so that the instructor could take control of the wheel?

How in the hell would that even be legal?

Because if I'm holding the wheel as the student driver.

And then there's another corresponding steering wheel on the passenger side where my instructor is sitting.

I might fight her for control of the wheel.

She might turn left.

I might turn right.

Now I got a puncher in the face.

No, because I don't want to die.

That's... When was that?

Xavier, what kind of driver's ed did you take, assuming that you took it?

Did you have it in school or did you take private driver's ed?

Private driver's ed.

Right across the street from the DMV.

Reginald Jones says y'all remember those driver's ed schools that had cars equipped with two steering wheels and brake pedals on the passenger side of the vehicle I've only seen that in movies JD the poet who is probably 48 years younger than Reggie also says that he remembers that vehicle I thought it was something because you know when Reggie says stuff He's talking about the 1920s a lot of times like when he comments on things like he's he's very I see me

Trying to think of when he was born.

Maybe slavery.

Maybe he was like the first generation for you know, he's an older fella You know, he talks with that continental accent.

He like sends me emails stuff.

Sherwin.

Did you see this?

They're getting rid of horse-drawn carriages.

Yeah, that's right They're gonna start replacing horses with motor vehicles.

Here's an article from 1921 You're not gonna believe it.

Yeah, he sends me all sorts of stuff.

Don't even know how he got my email address I have a

Milwaukee black media email address that's maybe four months old five months old How do some of y'all have that email address already?

the number of businesses and companies how I Don't even like to check my email because it's gonna tell me stuff that I either a Don't care about B

Already know or see Require me to do something at the most inconvenient time ever on planet Earth So I if you don't check your emails, then you're actually safe But the number of emails that I can and I'll mark on is like spam and fishing and I'm still Aurora healthcare is having a media event and having you're invited and please don't Don't invite me to stuff unless it's really important

Not just stuff that's important to you or your organization stuff that's like universally globally important, but don't just I Sure when I'm having a birthday party for my second cousin twice removed.

Would you like to come?

I don't know you sir See what we got here teens who have not completed a driver's education or 16% more likely to have a crash and 75% more likely to get a traffic ticket

That's according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

The average cost of a driver's education course in Wisconsin is $500 to $700 according to Milwaukee Recreation, a cost that can make taking the course difficult for some families.

and may cause some teams to skip it entirely until age 18.

That really is expensive.

But if I recall correctly, it was even expensive back in the day.

I think my driver's day was probably $200 or more, 30 plus years ago.

But you have to look at it as an investment.

And I know that times are hard and money is tight.

And even with that being said, y'all still find money to buy up.

bunch of things that you don't need.

I don't know how good we are at budgeting.

Should I get like a finance money person on the show so we can have a conversation about budgeting because some of y'all make good money.

But you still live check to check.

Isn't that what coach Eric is for?

Oh, absolutely.

Coach Erica Odom.

Yeah, every other Saturday here on one on one seven the truth from 11am until noon.

Let me do a side note on that.

So that's what my replays usually are.

Correct can my replays are not are they still not anew and on weekends?

Honestly, I could not tell you You're not here on a weekend.

Yeah, exactly Here's the issue and shout out to coach Erica.

I Love it's like she's real authoritative when she talks she yell talks Are you ready to level up truth nation?

I'm like, I think so.

I wasn't really ready to level up until you yelled at me coach Erica Odom

True nation you need to listen right now Money and finances and and and a house and I'll manage your rental property.

Oh, I don't I don't have any rental property what you do now Maybe I should get her on the show so when we do Like weekend programming specialty shows this goes back to the very beginning of one on one seven the truth

Whenever we have weekend shows Saturday shows or Sunday shows They always play those shows air during my replay time and I always feel a little short-changed They always they've done that since I don't why is that is that some form of racism?

No, you're the most popular show so they want to play there in your slide No, if I'm the most popular show you should leave my show untouched You know what I mean, and I'm not suggesting

that our Saturday shows or weekend programs be played during anybody else's show.

But why y'all been picking on Sherwin for six years?

Y'all, they're everybody always messing with Sherwin.

See, they think it's sweet.

That's what it is.

Take an hour out of Sherwin show.

But shout out to Coach Erica because I hope she, I hope people listen to her show and I hope she helps talk about budgeting your money, which is very hard to do.

I know it's even hard for me to do, especially if I have cash in my wallet.

Because when I have cash in my wallet and I see some stuff, I'm like, I can buy this thing I'm looking at with paper in my wallet.

Sometimes swiping my card because I try to keep tracking my head of how much money I'm spending.

And then sometimes I feel it's hard to describe.

It's not like guilt.

It's like, oh, this is expensive.

This is going to add up quickly.

And then I'll go buy something else and I'll go out to eat and I got to run an errand.

I'm just swiping, swiping, swiping the card, swiping, swiping, swiping.

And then every couple of few days.

Go online and I check my credit card balance because I do my level best I shouldn't say my level best every month.

I pay off my credit cards I do not let them roll over because I don't want to pay interest I'm fortunate that I'm able to do that But a lot of times because I'll be on a swipe spree because some days you just got to buy stuff You got to go places and do stuff.

I got to go here and I got one thing I'm not buying is gasoline.

So that's good You ever look at your credit card statement like I know damn well that I didn't go to this place because the merch the merchant name

that the place you went to might show up as a different name on your credit card statement.

I don't like that.

You need to be consistent with it.

I don't like how you do that.

Sometimes they get tricked.

They trick me.

Don't trick Sherwin.

You don't like to be tricked.

And don't want to be accused of being a trick either.

Don't like it.

It doesn't work out so well for me because then I'm freaking out, but I got to call the credit card company and then they will know.

No, Sherwin, you actually.

You did go to that place.

Well, it doesn't it doesn't match what I remember in my mind And then you just have charges that you like I swear I get fraud at every month because there's no way that I spend that much money All these charges.

I don't recognize I think it was easy you remember back in the day when you kept a checkbook and if you wrote a check you wrote in the checkbook so you can look in the checkbook and See all of the things that you wrote checks for man.

Is that an antiquated system?

I bet you have a whole generation of people right now that don't know how to write a check

They don't know how to balance a checkbook.

Maybe that's why we're smarter with budgeting money because you used to have it was you be at the grocery store And you got to write groceries and then you write the check we had to know how to write Nobody even knows how to write anymore.

How'd I get from this?

We're talking about drivers in Jody Donna bar drivers education supervisor with Milwaukee recreation built the program with affordability in mind

Classes for Milwaukee Public Schools students are $35.

Oh, that's way cheap.

That covers the permit fee too.

For the general community, classes are $150 for Milwaukee residents and $275 for non-residents.

Jack of that non resident feats of seventeen thousand dollars because if you're not from Milwaukee Well, I don't know if we necessarily want you coming here and taking up seats in our driver's ed unless we're gonna make a fat amount of coin off you two hundred seventy five dollars for non residents That's still a deal when you consider on average in Wisconsin private drivers ed classes are between five hundred and seven hundred dollars So someone who isn't from Milwaukee is still getting a subsidized

Drivers ed class take a break come back check our poll.

I want to see how many of you actually took Formal drivers education.

I have a number in mind Because I can tell by how some of you all drive y'all learned on the fly like you learn how to drive By hitting stuff and like oh, I can't go that way.

I can't

Go down a one way with my eyes closed.

I think some people learn by trial and error the truth with Sherwin Hughes will be right back The truth with Sherwin Hughes returns after this on 101

You are listening to The Truth with Sherwin Hughes on 1017 The Truth, The Truth App and 1017TheTruth.com.

Wait a second JD.

Why you got to be racist against men?

JD says.

I don't even want to read it because I just I don't believe.

I don't believe that statistic.

According to the National Highway Safety Administration, men cause more accidents.

I don't know.

Here's here's the thing.

If that's the case, it's because women flee and we don't know who caused the accident.

Men, we fess up.

Oh no, I hit something.

Let me pull over and wait for the authorities to come because I'm a law abiding man citizen.

Women will hit things.

Probably don't even know it and they keep going so statistically that would make sense to me that on paper Men may get in more accidents because men will say hey I made a mistake.

I want to make sure that I stay on the scene And I'm gonna take full responsibility for whatever damage that I cause and he'll and a man will just he'll just stand there and wait

And just hey, yes officer.

I did hit something the women They'll hit stuff and the oh, what was that?

I don't know what that was as they drink their iced coffee Do their hair do their makeup eat a McDonald's hash brown and beat three kids at the exact same time so they don't even know that they hit things so I'm assuming that is where that information came from Reginald says see when I say what he talks about like the olden days listen to what he just said on the YouTube listen he says

He learned how to drive in the smoky mountains in a Ford pickup truck with three on the tree Transmission with the choke and throttle knobs on the dashboard you learned how to drive in a Model T as a runaway slave that's

According to data from the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and studies via the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, men account for a higher percentage of overall accidents.

Well, I explained exactly why that is.

Because men are, we're very sorry.

We do not mean to hit stuff, but sometimes women drivers cut us off and then to...

To not you know have further damage.

We may swerve to not kill a child And then we may hit a parked vehicle or we may hit something else and then the woman she keeps on going So technically yes, the man got into an accident, but there was a woman on the road that was trying to kill him Okay, so we cleared all that up Dunbar said the difference between taking the course and not taking

taking it can make everyone a much safer driver.

This appears via TMJ4.com.

We want everybody to graduate with a diploma and a driver's license so they can get a job, so they can go to college, so they can vote, so they can do all the other things that a license helps open the doors for.

So technically, you don't need a driver's license to vote.

I kind of wish they didn't put this.

In the article that is not accurate, you just need a state issued form of identification.

Please, ladies and gentlemen, do not think that you need a driver's license to be able to vote.

You just need some kind of identification.

Why they would put this in this article this close to an election?

I don't know, but I'm glad that I read it so I can clear it up.

And if you don't know the rules of the road, you're going to end up driving recklessly or.

You get an accident or who knows Donna Barr says a driver's license for a teen and also be tied to getting a part time job or an internship.

This is assuming that the teen has a vehicle to drive.

What happened to the days?

When young people that's all they wanted.

Was to buy their own car.

The amount of hours.

That some of my friends would work they damn near had full times out so they could afford to drive a vehicle this younger generation and when I say younger generation I'm talking damn near like under 40 They don't even want to drive certainly the ones that are under 30 Particularly the ones that are under 20 like they don't even want to drive.

That's the craziest thing to me There's nothing like that freedom and that independence.

In fact back in the day, you know, we used to do for fun just drive

Go pick your friends up.

You don't even have a destination.

Maybe you go to highway 100 and cruise the strip.

Oh, do I have stories?

Maybe go down to the lakefront you cruise up and down Lincoln Memorial Drive just burning up gas my friend had a grand damn and We'll put a hundred miles a night on that vehicle just driving around the city listening to music That's all the entertainment.

We need it.

We weren't drinking yet

Just have an innocent fun and then You'd see a car full of girls What we did back then you can't do now because it's probably considered stalking look those are girls in that car chase them Follow the car of girls until one of us has to stop That's what it was about like the priorities have changed so much

But that freedom and that independence, and we still had a drive-in movie theater, you know that drive-in movie theater that was, I think it was called the 41 right there off of Fond du Lac by Jerezka Park, and you could sneak in the back, the back way and watch a free drive-in movie.

You would turn your radio to a certain frequency.

It's something I don't even, probably have no idea what I'm talking about.

So you go to the drive-in movies, and you would turn your radio.

to whatever frequency and that was the sound for the movie.

So you had the sound in your car broadcasting through your car radio.

Bring back drive in movie theaters.

Don't know why they ever went away.

That would be fantastic because then you would bring your snacks.

You'd have all of your food in the car or if somebody had a pickup truck, you sit in the bed in a pickup truck and you would watch the movie like that.

My opinion.

The best way to watch a movie is a communal experience and there was nothing like a Drive-in movie It was the original Netflix and chill and there were some of you that went to the drive-in and you didn't watch the movie at all Because if the Chevy is rocking Don't come a knock and let's talk to the town you're on one on one seven the truth.

How are you?

How you doing

sir doing good?

What's on your mind?

Now you sound like that every time I call bro.

I beg your pardon You be found every time I call you sound like here we go again.

I Think you overthinking why we get to your

comment Okay, okay, that's better.

Hey, okay, um these drivers

I'ma tell you, I ain't even gonna front and I hate to say this, the two people that be driving the worst you don't get the blame for all this wild driving is, I'ma tell you.

Number one, white people.

Because they be out here, they be out here like Indianapolis, Daytona.

And it's ridiculous and they have no fear of the police anywhere, they just gone.

That's number one and number two,

I hate to say it too, man.

No, you

don't.

You don't have to say it at all, but say it anyway.

I don't want to say it.

The sisters, though, the sisters, though, terrible, man.

And they and then when they be driving, not only they be driving reckless, they be driving, putting their makeup on.

They be driving.

They be smoking.

They be driving, yelling at the kids, still going 15 and 20 and up past the speed limit.

It's ridiculous, man.

So yeah, them two sets of subgroups of people, they really need to get on that thing when it comes to driving or whatnot like that.

And now a quick question, also politics too.

With Trump and all the news organizations, pulling back the coverage of the White House or whatever like that.

What do you think about this?

Because I first at first initial thought I was like, oh, that's a good idea.

They're banding together, you know, stop Trump from his BS.

But then I thought about it like, hold on then.

Who's gonna be there to watch the White House when they do do some booze stuff?

It seemed like this is the type of thing that Trump and them wanted.

You can do they, you know what I'm saying?

They can do they, they evil doings in the cover of secrecy without the fourth estate watching over them.

You're

right about

that.

So he essentially kicked out what he calls quote fake news But then the major news corporations have all banded together and they are now refusing to cover Donald Trump, but they're going to sue

And they will be reinstated to the White House press pool.

So this is going to be very, very temporary.

In fact, they'll probably get an injunction within the next 48 to 72 hours.

But no, you are right.

Donald Trump does not want the media all up in his business because whenever they are honest and factual about what he is doing and what he is saying, if he doesn't like it, if it makes him look bad because he does enough to make himself look bad, he calls the news fake.

When it holds him accountable.

So you're right.

This is all part of project 2025 to banish the media, but it's not gonna stand.

So just wait for a couple of

like some BS.

It sounds like some BS because when like what if he signs a presidential thing, you know, the thing that only the president can do that it calls action in the government and then we don't even know about it.

He's done so much stuff that we don't know about the things that we do know about I don't even know how much it would change in the first place But I do appreciate your call the town and next time you call I'm gonna sound more enthusiastic

You know gotta sound more enthusiastic though, but don't sound like somebody shot your dog.

Oh Okay, so sound less like my dog was shot, but not enthusiastic.

Okay.

I'll find a happy medium

So you're somewhere in the middle somewhere in the middle.

That's my time.

All right

I love how he says that's my time.

The town.

Oh, you're on one.

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Well, look at this.

When asked via our YouTube poll,

Did you take driver's ed?

72% of respondents say that they did.

I don't believe that.

Well, yeah, if you took it in the 1950s, there's probably different rules on the road.

We should ask them what decade they took it in.

I took driver's ed in the 1990s.

I'd imagine most of the rules of the 1990s.

are still good and still valid.

Not much has changed in the year 2026.

I don't know, maybe.

But if you started driving back when Martin Luther King was alive, I don't even think they had Driver's Ed back then.

Did that?

You just got behind a wheel of a car at like 13 and just drove.

Probably started in the 70s, I'd imagine.

That would make sense.

I suppose I could also probably look it up, but I don't know if they had Driver's Ed.

like in the 40s or the 50s.

We know that Reginald Jones didn't take Driver's Ed because his first car was a horse.

1933.

1933.

It wasn't.

It had to have been like special, like a specialty.

It wasn't in high schools in 1933.

Americans didn't even have cars yet in 33 really.

Modern high schools drivers education was invented in 1933.

Probably in big cities

not in like Kansas

It's Idaho.

It says at state college high school Pennsylvania Pennsylvania would make sense got bigger cities in Pennsylvania in 1933 America didn't even have 50 states yet.

I don't think We're still 48 Right Hawaii.

I should really know this We were still 48 was Alaska state yet.

Yes.

No

There's

only 48 states 1933.

There

you go.

So no Alaska and Hawaii.

Let me do a side note.

Can I talk about Puerto Rico this for a second without the Puerto Ricans getting mad?

The Puerto Ricans are not as nice as they used to be, by the way.

The Puerto Ricans back in my day were really cool with black people.

In fact, if there was like an event and it was like a handful of black people, a small handful of Puerto Rican people and a whole bunch of white people, the Puerto Ricans would come and hang out with us.

We don't feel comfortable to poppy We're going to hang out with you because Puerto Ricans used to swear up and down and they used to be proud of their African heritage I don't know if they're proud of their African heritage anymore because a lot of Puerto Ricans have turned Trumpers But here's a little a question that I have about Puerto Ricans if there's any Puerto Ricans listening or maybe you're married to a Puerto Rican or you identify as Puerto Rican because you can be You can identify as anything you want nowadays Hawaii

is 3,000 miles off of the coast of California, which is utterly ridiculous that it's an American state.

Now, it's very different.

It's a chain of islands.

It's got this lush, beautiful, volcanic-shaped landscape.

It's also very touristy.

But Hawaii, for being 3,000 miles off the coast of California and in the middle of the Pacific Ocean,

It is still an American state.

Now you have the native people that are their native Hawaiians and Southeast Asian people, but they very much do consider themselves Americans because they actually are.

Why does Puerto Rico think it's its own separate country?

Don't Puerto Rican Street, Puerto Rico, like it's a whole other country.

No, no, no, no, no.

You're Americans and you're only like 100 miles away from Florida, Hawaii, which is further away.

Just resigns to the fact that yes, they're American also because of Pearl Harbor that made them very American real quick.

In fact, Hawaii wasn't even a state yet in 1941 that would have been December 7th.

They didn't get their statehood for about 18 years after that.

Well Puerto Ricans think Puerto Rico is a different country.

It just seems that when I get it you have your pride.

Being in Puerto Rican, but then you can also just like move to New York and then be just like a regular New Yorker You don't even have to get your citizenship papers in fact Puerto Rico has always been a destination for me because I hear it's very nice very great place to travel to and also you don't need a passport because Puerto Rico is America Puerto Rico is like You ever have someone that just needs to stay with you just for a couple of days until they get on their feet

They just they maybe they're going through something they're looking for a place and maybe they're between jobs And you're a nice person and yeah, maybe it's a family member Maybe it's a friend and they say hey, I just need I need a place to crash You know you were in trouble when somebody says they need a place to crash That means that they don't really have plans on going anywhere.

Oh, I need can I crash it your place?

for a couple of days.

Oh my God.

Yes.

Absolutely.

You know, my house is your house.

You can come and crash.

And then 14 years later, they're still there.

I feel like that's Puerto Rico.

I feel why are you shaking your head?

I'm not against the Puerto Ricans.

I wanted to go there.

I mean, until I didn't, but they treat Puerto Rico like it's a separate country.

It's a Commonwealth.

Like it's our roommate that we just let be American.

DC

in Puerto Rico should have representation.

I agree with that totally I think there's other Delegates to that are in Congress that can't vote the American do we have the Virgin Islands?

Nope, they don't have

representation either.

Correct, but we there are American Virgin Islands correct What about?

What's Guam is Guam is that one of our little cousins too?

I think Guams

Guamanian maybe

I think they're connected to America Samoa, right?

That's another one.

I think they have a delegate in Congress.

You know how far that's halfway around the world.

If you're the congressional delegate for American Samoa or Guam, and I'm assuming they've got delegate representation, that's got to be like that's a whole two two day flight a whole day, 20 hours.

From Guam I think might even be further than Pacific Ocean in Hawaii is That's insane.

Yeah, they do need that should be states because if Hawaii is a state They've been fighting to get Puerto Rico or DC I think they even have it on their license plate Make DC a state of something they have on their license plate.