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So I'm not saying that.
This incident is particularly suspicious.
I just have a lot of questions.
In fact, it's what I do.
I am here to ask questions and I hope.
That we get the answers to them because the timing of this just seems Very unusual and the circumstances are well, let's just say a might confusing over the weekend we learned that Republican nominee for governor of the state of Wisconsin Tom Tiffany was on a flight.
I believe it was a small single engine plane
on his way back from a Republican gathering and or get together, I believe the annual Lincoln Day dinner where there was an emergency.
And this emergency resulted in a water landing of the plane that Congressman Tiffany was aboard where it was just he and the pilot.
Now, everyone relax.
The Congressman is fine.
He's got 12 stitches above his eye.
The pilot also fine.
The pilot got four stitches.
Total stitch, 16.
No life-threatening injuries, no broken bones, so I suppose all of that is a blessing.
Thoughts and shares to the congressman and to the pilot.
But I just have a couple of questions.
I know that it was also during the weekend in which we were commemorating maybe celebrating or maybe remembering what happened 25 years ago on September 11th when the Twin Towers came down and there was a big hole in the ground in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
And there also was another corresponding hole in the Pentagon.
So the weekend was let's just let's just say full of remembrances of tragedies.
So the FAA of course and the National Transportation Safety Board are investigating this water landing in which no one was hurt No one was seriously hurt the congressman got 12 stitches and the pilot got four stitches total stitch 16 Not a lot of stitches between two people considering that a plane crashed in a lake We live in a world of incredible surveillance there's cameras everywhere everybody's got a cell phone
Their security cameras apparently you guys don't like the flock type.
Just flock cameras all over the place and they do all of the videoing and the tracking of the faces and all of the license plates and the data and the sharing.
Also know that it is summertime while it is late summertime.
In fact, if you woke up this morning, hell, it felt like winter.
I had to turn the heat on in the car.
Very cold.
Not ready for it yet because I know what's coming.
God bless America.
one thing at a time, one thing at a time.
I know that there are a lot of people that love our waterways in Wisconsin.
They do.
Water activities in the summertime, very big business, the whole industry here.
You know, even Lake Michigan, people are going boating and they're going fishing.
I'm so happy to say that I spent a good portion of my summer doing things and going to places where these
Bullets don't reach.
I spent a lot of time on the water enjoying all the leisure activities on boats and whatnot and sitting on docks and sitting by the dock of the bay watching the tide roll in.
There's always somebody on the water.
There's always somebody fishing.
There's always somebody on shore.
There's always somebody on the pier.
I'm just curious.
Did anybody get any video footage of the plane going down?
These are all legitimate questions now.
And I wish that I didn't have to be this damn skeptical.
But how many times has Donald Trump been killed?
How many times has he been shot for like three?
How many times?
I forgot how many times.
Trump gets shot every weekend.
But I want to ask you all a favor.
I want you all to do something for democracy.
I want one of you to be a courageous fighter for your nation.
I'm asking a favor of you and I don't ask you all much.
Mostly because when I do, I get disappointed.
You want an example?
You want an example of why I don't ask you guys things anymore?
And when I do ask you things...
My heart gets broken into a million and one pieces.
My heart, Sherwin's heart has been super glued together so many times.
I ask you not to fight at Bastille Days.
You can fight on Brady Street all you want.
You can fight on Water Street.
Hell, you can fight on Capitol, Burlide, Locust, Chambers, Wright, Minakie.
Where else you want to fight?
You
You want to fight on 60th Street or 76th Street or 27th Street or 35th Street?
By all means have that.
I said don't fight at Bastille Days.
Don't do that.
Not my festival where I go and pretend I'm a black Frenchman.
Don't do that.
It's really the only festival that I attend.
Like a big old family reunion for myself and my people because there's some people that you don't see during the cold weather month But we all come out of our hibernating shells in the summer and Bastille days is when all of my people come out of their shell It's so nice.
It's so fun.
But y'all took the fighting down To Bastille days and it was a big fight.
It was one of those fights that It was roving Remember in the cartoons
when someone would be in a scuffle and you can't really tell what's going on because it's like a big ball of moving dust and you'll see like a foot a leg a fist a toe an elbow a hand a head an ear and it's just a roving rolling ball of dust that's what happened at my beloved Bastille days and I asked you guys don't fight at Bastille days and you disappointed me so I don't ask you for anything but now I'm asking for something because I'm curious you owe me you owe
me one Milwaukee
Now, this is going to be for a specific purpose.
I need you to help me in this endeavor, because I need you to be a hero.
I need you to save democracy.
I need you to take one for the team.
I want to see how long it takes.
And maybe it never happens at all, but I just want to see something.
You would ask, Sherwin.
Why don't you sign up for Tom Tiffany's campaign and email updates?
No, I will not do that Being what I do for a living.
I will never be able to get off of that list They'll start to send me stuff in the mail.
They'll probably send stuff to the address here They might even make a request to come on the show kidding Republicans don't ever want to come on my show because they're dumb, but they ain't stupid
I want to see if he raises money off of this plane crash.
And maybe he doesn't.
Maybe he does not.
Maybe it's just it was a real thing that happened.
Maybe it was an accident where no loss of life took place.
And we got to be thankful.
How many lives do Republicans have?
Just saying.
Trump gets shot today?
No, I'm seriously asking because this is a legitimate question.
You gotta hit refresh all the time on the news websites because somebody always trying to kill Trump, but he always escapes and wins reelection, which I find very unusual.
What the sophisticated thing to do, the classy thing to do is not try to raise campaign money off of this tragedy.
But if I know this incarnation of the Republican Party led by Donald Trump do not let a good tragedy go to waste So I'm curious and I'm not gonna sign up for his email and campaign updates But I want to see if he's able to raise money or if he's going to raise money and how long it's going to take before they
put something out and they do an email blast.
Tom Tiffany almost lost his life fighting for America.
The least you can do is send him $17.76 for the freedom and salvation of America.
So you got 12 stitches
That's 16 stitches.
If I do a little math.
That's an average of eight stitches per person for a plane that landed in the water.
Is there any video footage?
Any cell phone footage?
Was anybody on a boat?
Was anybody on a pier?
Did anybody see anything?
Where's the flight transponder?
What communication did they have?
Because you know that's publicly broadcast.
Communication between planes and the towers.
All of that is FCC regulated just like this radio I'm speaking to you on right now.
Is any of that information going to be made available?
I got a feeling that it is not.
And because this is a pretty high-profile event, ladies and gentlemen, all of that information needs to be provided to the public, but I have a sneaking suspicion that it will not be.
Now, I want to be wrong.
I want to hear the communication.
I hope they share the communication.
I hope they are very transparent.
What happened to the plane?
What was wrong with the plane?
When was the last time the plane was maintained?
Did the plane have gas in it?
Did somebody not go to the gas station and put gas in the plane?
Why'd the plane go down in Lake Warsaw?
How far were they from a runway?
I'm just very curious.
Is there any video footage, surveillance footage, block camera footage?
How come the plane didn't break apart?
How fast were they going?
When the plane is submerged in water, how in the hell do you get out of it?
I need you to think about this for a second, because I don't know if you've ever been in the waters.
Some of you have.
Some of you swim very well.
Some of you swim like little fishies.
the deeper you go, the more pressure you feel.
You know what I mean?
When you go into the waters and it gets real deep, you feel the pressure pushes on your chest.
You know what I'm talking about?
Us expert swimmers, you know, a scuba dive trained individuals, we know all about that pressure.
And so if you have the pressure of the water squeezing in and pushing in on the on the plane.
How do you open the door?
Did the cabin fill with water?
If the cabin filled with water, how come nobody drowned?
And how come there was only just 12 stitches above the congressman's eyebrow and the pilot only got four stitches?
That's very convenient.
I'm just saying I got questions now.
And I just could be over speculating here, but I need...
I need some answers because this is a pretty serious event.
If something like this happens to David Crowley, I'd have the exact same questions.
Actually, no, I'd say it was an assassination attempt.
If David Crowley's plane went down, oh, come on.
David, if you're listening, I don't know why you wouldn't be.
Don't get on no
planes.
Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley, if you need to travel around the state, I'll call you a Uber.
I don't need you getting on no planes because I don't trust what's going on in the world.
So I really wish one of you would sign up for Tom Tiffany's email updates.
I'm not gonna do it cuz that's the kids to death You know what's crazy?
I'm on Trump's email list.
I don't even know how I got on there just randomly in the last like probably a month and a half two months I'm getting all these Donald Trump fundraising emails while recently I Cancelled it, but I was curious as to how I even got on and it's sad because it's almost like the Trump campaign it
It begs people for money.
The Democrats are coming.
Please send Donald Trump $12 Donald Trump can't do it alone.
We need you and they use my name and sure when the president wanted me to tell you That he needs you so very badly, please show the president that you care by sending him $1,432 So one of you could sign up for Tom Tiffany's email list I'm wondering if he's gonna raise money off the plane crash and maybe he doesn't
Maybe this investigation unfolds very publicly.
Maybe we get video footage.
Maybe we get all the answers.
Maybe we get the information to those little planes.
They all got a black box, right?
I want to hear the pilot saying Mayday.
Did he call for help?
I want to know all of these things.
I'm gonna take a break.
Come back.
I'm gonna read you whatever the local media is saying about the story.
In fact, I'm not gonna go to local media.
Let's go to national media.
Let's go to the Associated Press.
And then also, I think I discovered why so many people
Of all races and all demographics, move away and out of the city of Milwaukee.
We've lost so much population.
Since 1960 at our heyday, we probably lost a quarter million people.
Now there are a few people that are coming back to the city, mostly younger professionals, but we are not bringing in more people than we are losing.
And sometimes people just hop the border.
to walk a Shaw County or Washington County, or maybe they just hopped the border to cut a hay or to the St.
Francis or to the other bedroom communities like Oak Creek and Franklin, but people are leaving the city of Milwaukee.
And it's it's I understand it, but I need to put some kind of science behind it.
Well, I think I found the science and the explanation as to why people are leaving the city.
And it really is not what you think.
And I'm going to take.
my sweet time in explaining this because I want policy decisions if policy makers listen to the show.
To consider what I'm going to reveal this morning on why I believe it's a profound reason.
It's a great excuse to get the hell out of this city and never come back.
We have titled today's show, The Reason Why We Leave, and we're going to dig into that on the other side.
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Representative Tom Tiffany, a candidate for Wisconsin governor, wiped away tears and laughs while sharing how thankful he was on Sunday to survive a harrowing late night emergency landing into a lake of the small plain he was riding in.
The pilot said, we're going down.
Tiffany a Republican told reporters at a downtown Wausau firehouse Pull your seat belt tight.
I gave it a yank and pulled it good and tight It was probably about 10 seconds later.
We hit the water Oh and to make this even more mysterious it happened at night.
It was at 9 o'clock at night.
I mean, it's got to be very scary To go down and
Crash the plane or water landing now also know the water landings when done properly Can be exceptionally safe.
I shouldn't say safe.
They're always dangerous, but they have a very high survival rate It's just very suspicious and I have to question everything anyone Affiliated with this Republican Party does everything that they do
is between a lie and nefarious.
It is below board.
It is disrespectful.
It is deceptive.
They are lying directly to the American people.
And now I'm starting to understand like a deeper psychology of some Americans.
If someone believes that they're going to get a check from the Trump administration because of all the money.
We found all of the redundant spending with doge if you believe that check is coming if you believe that you're gonna get a
a tariff refund or all the money that we collected in tariffs.
If you believe that that is happening, if you believe that if the Republicans win majorities in these midterm elections or they maintain their majorities, that Donald Trump is going to give you a $5,000 check.
And there are people that actually believe that and other policies.
While he is telling you that it's a Democrat hoax that you can't afford your gas and that you can't afford your groceries, talking
about a man who campaigned on no more wars, no more Middle Eastern wars.
Joe Biden, you botched the leaving of the war in the Middle East.
You messed it up.
There's going to be no more wars.
And then puts us right back into a forever war.
And I look at the people that we share this country with.
And if you believe that, if you were still with him and if you were still casting your vote for that, I look at you differently.
And it's your fault that I look at you differently.
Now I believe that I could sell you anything.
I could make you believe anything.
And then when I add that into, because I have no sympathy for these people, because I know how they talk about us, they think that we are their problem, that black people are their problem, that immigrants are their problem, that minorities are their problem, that minorities getting scholarships is their problem, that DEI and that diversity and affirmative action is their problem.
No, they are their problem.
And if you are that stupid to still put your faith in him and in them, I look at you differently.
Now I'm trying to think, well, what can I sell you?
Because I can't let you be that dumb and still have money in your pocket.
I need I need your money because it's better off in my pocket because you're too dumb.
You're dumb.
And I'm I'm giving you like not even a tenth of a percent.
How bad Donald Trump has screwed these people over but he has done this incredible thing and he's had a lot of help He's had help from conservative media.
He's had help from members of Congress who are essentially neutered He had help Instead of the people that are harmed by him Blaming him they blame us That is fascinating, but it also goes to show you can get people
to believe anything if you meet them in their ignorance and just you let them believe that they are correct in all of their assertions and all of their assumptions and you don't challenge them you don't actually explain to them how Donald Trump is literally milking the American people Donald Trump has made more money in these last two years of this term that all of the US presidents combined I need you to think about that and we're just sitting here just
Paying too much money for everything inflation is out of control can't get a damn mortgage to save your life mortgage rates 30 year fix has been above 6% Economy is failing Yeah, people are Not sure if they're gonna vote for David Crowley.
Let's this is a tough one So when you are in a situation like the Republicans find themselves in
All indicators point to heavy Democratic majorities, not just in the House, but maybe even in the Senate.
And the Senate wasn't even supposed to be in play.
There is no way that James Tallarico should even be within the margin of error for a U.S.
Senate race in the state of Texas.
If Texas could, they would bring slavery back yesterday.
Texas is going to become, follow me on this, what Georgia became.
in 2020.
Georgia has two Democratic senators.
Georgia is the heart of the Bible Belt.
Georgia is Marjorie Taylor Green territory.
Not only does Georgia have two Democratic senators, you have a Black pastor and a Jew.
That's too liberal even for me.
I'm like, one of y'all gonna have to drop out.
That's too left.
Black not only a black pastor Raphael Warnock is the preacher at Ebenezer Baptist Church.
That's dr. King's that was dr. King's church where he did all of the preaching and the dr. King they killed him by the way Dr. King's assassination one fake They got him in the face.
Yeah, that's awful No, I'm just saying that they didn't dr. King didn't say
Maybe I should fake an attempt
to get more publicity on the movement Somebody pretend to shoot me But don't actually hit me
I tune a one-on-one seven a truth on my heavenly radio
I
Because the Republicans are messing this country up so bad, but it's not them.
They're an apparatus.
They're a strategy.
They're a business.
They're a grift Republicans are doing what they're supposed to do and they're following Donald Trump's lead and I say let them because both the Democrats and the Republicans Have something in common moving into this midterm election Both Donald Trump and the Democrats want to make this election about Trump
Trump wants to make the election about him and absolutely so do the Democrats but things are just they're so bad There's going to be more desperate things they are going to do because the strategy of and you can just look this up on your own You don't have to believe anything that I say There was I think it might have been with an Erdogan or one of these foreign right dictator presidents Russia came up with an idea like a generation ago that if there is a political contest
If a particular candidate is not doing well in the contest you You create a tragedy you do an assassination attempt and it gains national sympathy that goes above whatever the partisanship is in that particular country So if you have someone that is very unpopular if they have a near-death experience or if there is a tragedy Then that nation will rally behind that person that that's KGB strategy.
There's nothing new about that.
That's old Russian
Like trying to usurp the elections of other nations like that.
There's nothing new about that.
And are you shocked that Donald Trump did something similar?
No, I'm not saying the assassination attempt was fake, but damn.
All those misses.
Just it's crazy, right?
And so that's why I got to bring up this damn Tom
Got 12 stitches above his eye.
Wasn't even bruised.
He gave a little press conference.
Think about if you.
Crash the damn plane in the water.
You don't give a press conference that night.
I'm not talking to the media for a good long time.
Let the media like speculate, you know, he came out.
Do this back on a campaign trail today.
He was in the water.
What was it last night?
Saturday.
Last night.
I don't know when it was Saturday.
Do this out campaign today.
I take at least a couple of days off.
Take a break come back.
I Gave I sent you the poll a little late exam.
I haven't even looked at our YouTube yet.
You put the poll up I'm just curious as to what people think.
I posted some stuff on Twitter.
I know I'm gonna take some heat, but I don't care.
I don't believe it.
I ain't gotta believe it.
Believe it.
I maybe I don't know.
I just I got a lot of questions.
What was the communication from the tower?
What was wrong with the plane?
What are the maintenance records of the plane?
Where's the flight transponder?
Where's the black box?
Like where's all that stuff?
You know what I'm saying?
If you give me that, then I'll be satisfied.
But I am here to ask those questions.
The problem is Donald Trump has so tarnished the media and called everything that we do fake that even when we do what we're supposed to do, ask probing questions because they're not supposed to outsmart us.
Politicians can't, they're, they're the tail.
We're the dog.
They can't wag us.
We've let, we've let them get away with too much.
For too long and too many of them have gotten weak too many of these CEOs of these media companies is too scared of Donald Trump post the interview Donald Trump says all I'm gonna take your FCC license if you post the interview post the interview then go to court and get your license back.
They're scared of him Because he's trying to Hog tie and hamstring the media and it's working because too many all the your
pansies almost said I'm gonna take a break come back got a poll The Tiffany crash real or a hoax, I'm scared to see what the vote totals are You're listening to the truth with Sherwin Hughes exclusively on 101.7 FM and Milwaukee also on YouTube Search 101 7 the truth on YouTube hit subscribe and we're all over the social medias and the Instagrams All that good stuff too
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back.
So I checked the YouTube poll, and it's a simple question, because you know what?
I don't know if there's a lot of trust in government.
There's never really been a lot of trust in government.
People don't trust what our elected officials are doing.
We hear it every single day.
People always think that money is disappearing.
I believe that money is disappearing, but it's not disappearing.
From the places in which you think there are far too many of us that don't understand local politics Which is relatively easy local politics is not nearly as complicated as a federal government State government is complicated to really is very complex a lot of committees a lot of subcommittees the spending is insane our Biennial budget has got to be getting close to a hundred billion dollars and every single one of those dollars is accounted for It's income taxes.
It's property taxes.
That's more for local government
It's you know your vehicle registration fees.
Oh speaking of which I got to register my I'm
I don't want to pay the 331
dollars But I have to you got to pay it because they will pull you over if your tabs are expired and I just I don't need the risk damn it But all those dollars are accounted for and that's a lot of money the state budget, but local government There's a lot less money
And I hear too many people saying oh sure when they're taking the money and they call it financial mismanagement.
Not really.
I just think that people don't know how it works.
And when they look at conditions in the community, like there's parts of Milwaukee that look like a third world country.
There's whole neighborhoods that look bombed out and people actually live there so wild.
But then there's places in this city that are beautiful, pristine, new buildings, new construction.
It's crazy.
And so I can understand, I suppose, why people may think, well, all this money we're paying in taxes, why do these neighborhoods look this way?
I'm going to explain something.
I'm probably going to wait until an hour, too, because I need a whole
fresh
And this is the reason why I think that people leave the city of Milwaukee.
So it's more than just when you look out of your window and you see hopelessness and you see poverty and, of course, the crime.
Low levels of education It's it's obviously that But there's something that's driving All of that and you would wonder why some places in this city have looked the exact same for 50 years There are very few places in the city of Milwaukee that have looked the exact same for 50 years
downtown didn't look anything like this 50 years ago.
Brady Street was nothing like it is right now.
50 years ago, Brady Street was a dump.
Some would say it might be turning to back in the dump status, but I paused before I went that far.
Water Street didn't look anything like what it looks like right now.
50 years ago, but certain parts of the north side exactly the same.
It's like the land that time forgot The places that investment evaded and avoided There's an explanation the money is being drained and it's a lot of it when I tell you the dollar amount I spent time doing this research now.
I hope you're all proud of me I should submit these next couple of hours for an award kidding.
I'm not gonna get one But I think I know why people are leaving this city other than the obvious reasons
There's this, there's a hole in the bucket, dear Liza.
And as we try and fill this bucket up, think of the bucket as holding hope, opportunity, possibilities, optimism, resources, money, investment, entrepreneurship.
It is a, it is the bucket of well wishes that every good city, productive city,
Has you pour these things into this bucket and then the public in the community They pull a little bit out of the bucket if you have a city that is rich in opportunity and you have this Optimistic bucket some people are reaching out.
Let me grab a little entrepreneurship and some people reaching the bucket and say oh, let me grab
Maybe some better educational opportunities.
Oh, let me let me reach in the bucket and and get a better job or a better opportunity or a promotion because cities and metro areas that is what they are designed to provide this bucket of Opportunity and you want more people to come to the city to do two things Pour into the bucket so that more people can take out of it and their lives can flourish and when the lives flourish What do they do?
They pour back into the bucket.
There's a hole in our bucket
As we pour into it everything seems to be leaking out I have assigned a dollar amount every single I even have it down to the second of how much is leaking out of our bucket and I need a policy solution for this but here's the other thing about Policy makers in the city of Milwaukee without me naming any names what I'm going to explain to you.
They already know
They have every bit of statistics and data.
In fact, they know where every dollar should be spent, how much tax revenue we get, where the best investments are to prevent or to patch up the holes in the bucket.
It's like potholes in the city of Milwaukee.
We keep patching them, but they keep coming back.
They try to patch the holes in our optimistic bucket where you put in a little entrepreneurship.
You put in really good schools and more educational opportunities.
You put in good jobs.
You put in good wages.
You put in good benefits and then people can come.
pull something out of that bucket.
Because we work as a community, we work as a society to fill that bucket with possibilities.
And you know what the best part is?
The children.
The children can look in that bucket and they have all of these things that they can pull out of the bucket to make themselves productive adults.
And then they're going to be successful and they'll pour into that bucket for the next generation.
Our bucket here is almost empty.
But here's the thing about our elected officials here.
All they have to do is just patch the bucket, and then they know another hole is coming and they'll patch the bucket.
They don't have to seal it.
They don't have to.
They don't have to seal the bucket.
They know it's leaking.
What far too many of our local elected officials do, not all of them, but here's the thing, even if you're a really good one, a good policymaker, you need...
Cooperation from policy makers that aren't good Because they need majority votes to move anything.
Okay, and what's gonna happen?
This is a Milwaukee thing.
I think if somebody is really really good Try to diminish their shine because if they're too good, they're gonna make you look lazy because you are that's If somebody's really good They shame all of the people
that aren't good and the aren't good people absolutely are in the majority.
So you'll have the aren't goods coalescing and coming together to make sure the are goods aren't successful because if the are goods are successful, then the ain't goods look stupid.
I think that's the problem.
There's a couple of them that are.
And they're frustrated.
You can tell they get mad at their own colleagues.
There's answers to some of these questions.
And it also would reinvigorate public trust.
People aren't voting.
Voter turnout is low.
And I get it.
I still want you to vote.
I also don't want you to fight a Bastille Day.
So I guess if I had to pick.
Oh, don't put me in that choice.
I don't want to.
What do I choose?
We'll try it again next July Bastille days If y'all fight next year Bastille days, I'm gonna fight too.
That's just what I'm gonna fight In fact, I need to get in the gym Keep myself in shape this winter.
I'm gonna learn I gotta fight I live in the city of Milwaukee even though I'm too old to fight I gotta I feel like if I want to go out and have a good time in certain parts of the city I need a good roundhouse kick the thing about a kick in a fight is nobody really expects a kick
The punches we expect those like you see people fighting they're putting up their dukes a Kick to the bread basket like nobody sees that coming.
You know I'm saying who you I I watch a lot of MMA and I've realized that I could not be an MMA fighter, but You kick somebody in the chin that that changes the whole trajectory of a fight.
I think people need to kick mark Take a break come back.
Oh, let's look at the pole
Y'all are worse than me Tom Tiffany crash real or a hoax 70% of you think it's a hoax, so I'm not alone Then it just seemed really suspicious how his plane just went down in the water and how do you get out?
How do you not drown because their plane is not waterproof Planes fill with water and they show the plane and it's weird because it only landed in the waters not even that deep which is also weird like they landed in the perfect shallow part of Lake Warsaw
You know whenever there's a tragedy anywhere in the world you're gonna see video footage uploaded to social media before the news even arrives on the scene whereas because I combed I Think the best source for that kind of footage and it's usually X formerly Twitter.
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You know how many more subscribers we got 10
10 I Tell people to go to YouTube every day because I put a poll up
So frustrated it's hot in here like the turn the goddamn heat on Oh, you wanna you want a fan?
Oh, they brought you a fan.
Yeah, that's why Dean was in here with the fasting Dean walking Dean is an unusual fellow.
He's like he helps us out a lot more
than
I know he does.
So I seen Dean walking around upstairs and he had a fan in his hand.
And it was weird because like he's holding the fan walking in one direction, but his head was turned looking at me.
So he's got a fan here and he's didn't say hello.
I smiled and nodded at him, but he's he was determined.
He was it's hot as hell in here.
Yeah, he brought it down for us.
So I'll bring it in there.
Do you need it?
Is it hot in there?
I don't need it.
I got a hoodie on.
I'm fine.
Wait a minute.
So it's not hot in there.
Not to me.
Okay.
Well, let me take a break and we'll get I'm sweating.
I need some water.
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John says via the YouTube I wonder at what point the quote powers that be start the draft and then he defines the draft for those of you that don't know it is a no-choice military conscription and he was wondering when that's going to be cranked up I got good news for you never
So every adult male has got to register for the Selective Service by law, and if you don't register for the Selective Service, it's almost like a minor felony.
There's things you can't get, government services you can't apply for or receive.
A whole bunch of grants you can't get, so you gotta sign up for the Selective Service.
Here is why there will be no draft.
The kind of wars that we will have in the 21st century.
Will not require those kinds of ground troops.
That's number one.
It'll be electronic warfare It'll be cyber warfare and it'll be drones and missiles and that kind of stuff and it might be nuclear and Americans are too fat and out of shape if you drafted do you know how many American young men would fail the physical do you know what kind you have to be in like not perfect shape but
Pretty close because they don't have a lot of time to get you ready to fight physically You love my god the anxiety the depression the medications that people are on no way the obesity It would might be I don't know one in a hundred maybe would qualify and Then you have the people that would defect that would go to Canada because some people just wouldn't
They wouldn't fight in a war.
So no, they know better than that In fact, that's more of a reason why we need immigrants I bet immigrants will come to this country be more willing to fight for this country than we would Thank God I'm too old I get bone spurs like a president.
Oh, yeah, bone spurs for sure Bones are spurred and both of his feet A whole bunch of ways to get out the draft play crazy I got a
Something I was gonna share with y'all, but I you can really get out of the draft, but I'll save that one for myself But no Reggie, we're not gonna they're not gonna draft anybody Americans are way too out of shape and be embarrassing The Chinese have an army That's probably the size they could draft like 50 million people just the Chinese And they would kick our asses and do better math too
Let's see what else we got on the YouTube chat.
Mostly people exchanging pleasantries.
I don't even know why I read Reginald Jones' comments.
He just talks about just literally anything that comes to mind.
He just types it.
What a life.
Sitting, listening to Sherwin Hughes all day.
I wish I could do that.
A bunch of y'all sitting around in your underwear eating bacon and eggs.
Listening to me bloviate on about how terrible the world is Wonder woman great name.
Happy Monday.
You got me thinking about Halloween.
Oh, that's mr. Maddie.
That's ah speaking of Halloween Got my costume idea, but I need another person I Need a woman preferably between the ages of 29 and 54
medium bill To be The second part of my two-part Halloween costume and what we're gonna do is we're gonna go to every single Halloween Costume party that we can go to the ones that are paying for first place and we're gonna win And we're gonna collect hella dough Because this costume idea that I have I need another person preferably a lady Slim to medium bill.
I'll take a thicky thick
You can be a little heavy set.
It's just the costume is going to bulge in one part if you're too thick.
But we can make that work.
It might even actually add to the overall theme of what we're going to accomplish.
And we're just going to clean up.
So here's the thing.
Halloween is on a weekend this year.
Oh, that's spooky right there.
I love it.
Halloween is on a Saturday.
So that whole weekend is going to be freaky-deaky.
In fact, you know what I think I might do?
I might come because I got another costume that I haven't worn in a couple of years.
I might wear not.
The winning costume that I need I know the person for because if I wore that I would need a woman in here with me for the whole show and that's We're not gonna do that But I might dress up in one of my auxiliary Halloween costumes that Friday October 30th and just sit here and I'll just do the show like normal I won't even like point out the fact that I'm wearing a costume like you won't even be able to tell I'm just gonna do to show normal like I'm doing it right now But I just being full regalia being full costume.
So that's
Gonna be a lot of fun, but I am recruiting Slim medium build maybe a little bit on the heavy set side.
Maybe a husky a husky gal To be part two of my two-part costume and we're gonna go to all the costume contests around the city Especially those that have cash prizes and we are going to win I'm gonna take a break when I come back for hour two I'm gonna give you the reasons why I think people are moving away from the city of Milwaukee the truth with Sherwin Hughes will be back for hour two
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I am providing information on why I believe people moved away because the violence infrastructure, the violence industrial complex in the city of Milwaukee.
It's about three quarters of a billion dollars, and I don't believe that it is sufficiently preventing, but maybe it is properly managing the epidemic of violence.
And when you are spending that kind of money on a problem that is not at all diminishing, you're better off moving somewhere else where less money is spent on a violence prevention ecosystem.
Let's talk to a patient waiting.
Sam.
Hi, Sam.
How are you?
You're on one on one, seven The Truth.
I'm doing all
Okay, first I want to agree with little sign About getting them out of here Because I believe that penalties for certain firms are soft Go back to the keyboard era those kids will get caught And they'll be on house arrest And then go back out water on house arrest and steal more cars
How about just sitting straight to jail?
We can't.
But why we can't?
Because black people get very angry when we come to find out a lot of black people are in jail because then we call the whole criminal justice system racist.
And so they're much more likely to have, you know, extended supervision and have house arrest.
Here's the other thing.
Right now with the current prisons we have in the state of Wisconsin, they're designed to hold 17,000 inmates.
Sam, you know how many inmates we got in those prisons?
23,000 we are 133% over capacity, which is unconstitutional.
So even if we lock them up and send more of them away, number one, they're going to get out eventually.
And when they get out, now they're coming back to the community with a criminal record, they ain't going to get a job.
We don't have the prisons to hold the people there probably should be there.
So we got to build more prisons, which we can do, but there's a whole bunch of other investments and resources that we're not going to get because we got to spend our money on building more prisons.
So they'll oblige you if you want to build more prisons.
Oh, I absolutely know the Republicans and Democrats will take some of your tax money right out of your wallet and build more prisons, but your roads ain't gonna get paved.
Garbage might not get picked up in your snow ain't gonna get plowed, but at least we'll have some prisons.
I'd rather have prisons than my garbage picked up.
They gotta go.
These kids gotta go.
Another option I know we can't do, but that's just kill them.
Get rid of them.
Yeah.
Sorry.
to me.
Especially if they don't care.
If they don't care about life and what they doing, then why keep on the rent?
And that's it.
Thanks, Sam.
Glad he said that because the attitude and Sam, right, we would call him like, I'm tired of this.
Sam is an upstanding citizen.
He was like, oh, we'll kill him.
That's exactly what people are doing on the street right now.
So Sam, I'm glad he said that.
Because he represents that same attitude That exists on the street That's costing us a billion dollars a year because whenever people say oh, we got to get rid of them the people on the street right now that are doing all the violence They're doing they're doing that for us aren't they?
They're getting rid of them and how is that working out?
We make it seem like oh, this is a problem that we'll just get rid of them and then they won't be here anymore.
You know, there's more every day
It's like, oh, let's graduate this class from MPS.
Then there won't be any more seniors.
Let's just graduate them.
And then we're done graduating.
There's another graduating class that are juniors.
There's another class.
They're sophomores.
They're going to be graduating too.
So even if you quote unquote, get rid of them, there's more that are coming.
It's not like, oh, let's just get rid of them.
And then we'll all be safe.
I think the public.
I'm starting to see that we need to be better educated on this ecosystem because if our attitude is the same as theirs, oh, we'll just get rid of them.
Like you can just get rid of people.
Let's talk to someone who very well may have the solution.
Hi, Al.
How are you doing today?
I'm doing
wonderful.
Two years of things.
And this is what I have noticed.
You got to cut back on affectionate.
the low income and the disability because, you know, a lot of these houses is dysfunctional.
And I noticed where it's a lot of drama, a lot of these people live with these people because they don't work.
So you're going to have to limit that.
A lot of y'all see the get upset.
They already gentrified the inner city of Milwaukee.
I mean, it's a house for $200,000 on 11th and Keith in 53206.
So they are already pricing y'all out.
You know, so I say cut back on the government assistance.
A lot of times when you have a lot of government assistance, you have a lot of chaos because don't nobody work.
And a person who work have a different standard for people who don't work.
You got to cut back on that.
Another thing you got to cut back on is the slum landlords.
Because the slum landlords rent to the people who got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten evictions.
And then they rent to anything.
They just collect in the rent.
When you look at other areas where they don't have all that, you don't have some landlords.
You don't have a lot of section eight.
You don't have this thing of where they're going to go.
They don't care where you go.
They push you out like they do black people.
So that's why it's always concentrated here.
Another thing is, and I'm not going to even throw the politicians in it, because a lot of them know what's going on in the community, but they only move when the white people come along.
And that's why you got the white people that's moving on the north side, but they only come out at night time.
And they're buying your houses up dirt cheap.
And then they're taking the problem houses and asking $200,000 to $250,000 that people are paying with no garage.
But you're going to have to push the people out.
I'm not going to say they need to die, because if they burning up all the spoons and all the steel oil and you can't clean your pots and pans, they're going to kill themselves anyway from bad dope to no dope.
That's why their eyes is big is cash issues.
I say pull back on the government assistance and you will start seeing a change.
You can't save everybody.
What do you look like trying to save somebody who don't want to save themselves?
You let them go.
That's all you can do.
Everybody is smart, bright and intelligent and nobody is dumb as to set some nuts.
But if you don't want to save yourself.
Can't you gotta let them go, but you gotta cut back on the section eight a redness distance the disability and the slum landlords because you're slum left You know you got some politicians that slumber landlords too.
Oh, yeah You know you got a lot of these wealthy white people who own these houses in the inner city and you got to get on your building inspectors, too
because a lot of them from landlords is random house sounds when they could be condemned.
Now, I know y'all going to cut me out, but I'm all for it.
I'll hang up and listen.
Bye bye.
Thanks.
I appreciate your
If you to humor him for a moment, cut off the government assistance and you get rid of section eight.
Now you have a homelessness problem.
So add a zero onto everything that I just said.
By eliminating government assistance and programs We are adding to the problem what government assistance can do and of course it gets exploited and taken advantage of it you can get to a point of Diminishing returns because you have people that live and survive solely on government assistance Which keeps them and us as taxpayers on the hook until they die till one of us dies But I don't think that that would
It's not necessarily a problem to be ultimately solved It's one to be managed and hopefully over time reduced and all this technology that we have we still have not figured out a Better way to manage and reduce the violent incidents even though it's costing us a billion dollars that we don't even have in this city But what seems to be a very popular opinion is well, we'll just get rid of them
Here's how that actually work.
We don't get rid of them.
We have to move and let them stay you understand it They're not going anywhere they can't They can't go anywhere.
They can't pack up and move.
They're not going to German town.
I'm not going to Oak Creek I'm not moving a door County
They're fixed.
They've been here for generations.
Their grandmoms was poor, their grandfathers was poor, and the culture that they live in is transmitted from mother to child, from father to son.
They're here, okay?
We have the ability to leave, and that's exactly what people are doing.
So it's interesting.
I hear people saying, oh, we got to get rid of them.
No, no, no.
They're going to stay.
We are the ones that are leaving.
Let's talk to.
Jordan you're on one-on-one seven the truth.
How are you?
I'm doing well sir.
I'm
I Just wanna I gotta say it man.
It's a lot of black folks.
They sound like they sound like them.
They sound like the white boys just kill them Like anything I don't understand it.
I think the problem is honestly beyond us.
It's a It's a two three four five generation deep
Problem that's embedded.
It's it's rooted.
It's got a tuxing.
It's staying, you know, we can move.
Yeah, but that just leaves the problem somewhere else But then you ain't gotta worry about how do you how do you heal the people though, man?
Honestly on the real yeah, we can move and that and that works for you and for me But honestly, do you do you have
not I want to know
because I don't even know the people that need to be healed brother Don't even know they're sick because they live in a world and surrounded by a culture
That's normalized all of this.
In fact, we're the sick ones But also I want to take issue with something you said because I get it you said the people sound like the white folks kill them No, that's they sound like black people because black people
are
but what you're
amongst people that are
people
do
or if we
promise you, we have
we've
social services.
We've tried
It's about your own personal happiness, finding your bliss.
I really, I really, really dug the, you know, I ain't no radio calling person.
I'm a.
I'm a I'm a young you know me whatever whatever I might be a Y in myself.
I really
really dug the Country air The fun that you just want to find your personal piece your little piece of happiness, so that's all we need if they understood that There was more You know what I mean then then what what they see out of their friend
a lot of
my my lot of my niggas my peers my friends
died I'm almost ten years removed you know without my my friends who didn't grow up to be young men on on earth you know me and I realized like there's when you don't like you said what you don't know you don't know you know ignorant to live some shit it's just it's sad man but yeah thank you for calling
man I can dig it man have a good one all right
How about we just teach them how to read and use logic?
Well, with the curriculum that I learned about UPS, I mean, NPS has, it's pretty hard.
They're actually bringing books back to school.
Are they gonna still be reading off a laptop?
I don't know all them details, but they are they did say When I was reading press releases about the beginning of the school year There was a whole bunch of bullet points about new things.
They're gonna try and different strategies and different avenues They're going to explore and to that I say good because at the root of all of this is a lack
academic success at the root of all of this are a lot of people that cannot read on great level the world becomes a really big scary place if you cannot read decipher and interpret the fine print that surrounds us Milwaukee's annual bill roughly 744 million five hundred thousand dollars from shootings
The Milwaukee County Community Health Needs Assessment applied those cost estimates to Milwaukee's 2024 firearm violence volume and calculated.
Fatal shootings every year cost $332,700,000 non-fatal shootings cost $411,800,000 combined approximately.
seven hundred forty four million five hundred thousand dollars that is roughly two point zero four million dollars every twenty four hours
that can't be right
that is two point it is right that is two million forty thousand dollars every twenty four hours we're spending on shootings or roughly
$85,000 per hour, 24 hours a day.
And Milwaukee continued to experience very substantial violence in 2025.
Milwaukee Police Department reported 142 homicides and 515 non-fatal shooting victims.
Although homicide and fatal shooting figures are not interchangeable because not every homicide involves a firearm.
Non-fatal shootings were down.
from six hundred thirty nine in twenty twenty four and a seven hundred forty four million dollars probably understates the real economic damage the NICJR calculation includes very important direct costs but cannot comprehensively price several enormous indirect financial effects property values
Violence produces a wealth effect that is particularly consequential for homeowners.
Urban Institute research across multiple cities found that neighborhoods experiencing gun violence surges saw home appreciation approximately 4 percentage points lower and also experienced falling and failing homeownership rates and credit scores.
Then you got to move.
You didn't pay all this money for this house and all this down payment And all this mortgage to have the value of your property go down because we can't spend enough money to stop students You got to move somewhere to where your property values are gonna go up Like a man on Viagra But consider the mechanism
I was waiting on that.
A house that might have appreciated from $150,000 to $165,000 instead appreciates to $159,000.
That's roughly $6,000 of household wealth that does not materialize.
Repeat that across thousands of properties in neighborhoods persistently identified with violent crime and the suppressed household wealth in the city of Milwaukee is, Jesus Christ, tens of millions of dollars.
It also eventually matters to municipal finances because weaker assessments can mean a weaker property tax base.
I'm gonna take a break, come back.
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We're gonna go deep in the tunnel and we're gonna squirt out all of the information and the data.
We're gonna squirt it all over you.
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It's gonna be so much information.
It's gonna be so gooey and ooh, information.
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Why do I need a towel?
Because Sherwin is spewing in all nasty information.
It's yucky.
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All right everybody, about to go deep here.
So there's no...
There's no solution and I think that's what people are listening for because I tell Folks all of this these details and these facts.
I'm just telling you what it is.
It's not okay.
So now what do we do?
We're doing it.
We're doing it We're spending all of the money we have.
There's not a nonprofit that is not addressing a need that arises and the need is so big that more nonprofits are Springing up.
It's an entire industry.
It is a violence
industrial complex that every year we are spending three times Milwaukee bucks revenue.
So stop saying that we're investing in spending all of our money downtown.
No, we're not.
We're spending them on fatal shootings.
That's where the money is going.
Downtown could never.
They could never get this much money in investment.
We are investing more in something that.
Really is not improving.
But that's where the money is going.
That's why we can't have nice things.
And if you stay, your property values are going to go down.
And if you stay, the tax revenue that the city is collecting goes down, down, down, down.
If you stay, expect property tax increases to make up for the reduction in property values.
So instead of us saying oh, they need to leave.
Oh, they can't This is their city.
They're running it They are part of a billion dollar financial ecosystem.
They're not going Anywhere and if we had the ability it's a quote-unquote move them or get rid of them We would now some are going to jail in prisons, but that's not working either Because our jails and our prisons are overcrowded.
Let me let me separate to our prisons are overcrowded
In California in 2012, the U.S.
Supreme Court ruled that California's overpopulation of their prisons violated the Cruel and Unusual Punishment Clause of the U.S.
Constitution.
California immediately had to start releasing inmates because they just couldn't keep up with the number of people that were going to prison.
And they were better than, I think they were 120, 125% of capacity in California.
We're 133% of capacity here in the state of Wisconsin.
So if some prison worker, prison guard, or some inmate says the conditions in XYZ prison are so bad and so overcrowded, it is a threat to our lives, which it actually is, and they're Supreme Court precedent.
So while some of you may want more of them locked up for longer, more of them are going to get released early and coming right back home.
unless you're okay with building 10 or 15 more prisons to the tune of several billion dollars.
Now, Tom Tiffany will oblige you in an absolute second.
In fact, he is waiting for black folks to say we need to build more prisons to lock up more black people.
He is chomping at the bit, but not right away because you know he was in a bit of an accident.
Tom Tiffany was in a plane.
And it went in the water and he got a cut Yeah, he's fine.
Everybody relax.
He's back on the campaign trail He got 12 stitches and the pilot got four stitches.
That's 16 stitches between four people.
That's two people Not that many people 16 stitches two people that has a total of How many stitches is that 12 plus 6 plus what is how many stitches he
got?
No bruises?
So you're getting a plane crash, no bruises, just a cut.
Can he swim?
to
he got a
window before they got submerged
well that's why he had to cut his head he
He did he you know did a headbutt And then he broke the window and then you're making
Yeah, he uses head he headbutted out the window and they're both the him in the Pilot you know swam to safety
hang on US Rep Tom Tiffany a candidate for Wisconsin governor wiped away tears and laugh while sharing how thankful he was on Sunday to survive a harrowing late-night emergency landing
Into a lake of the small plane in which he was riding in the pilot said quote We're going down Tiffany and Republican told reporters at a downtown Warsaw firehouse Pull your seat belt tight.
I gave it a yank and pulled a good and tight.
It was probably 10 seconds later.
We hit the wire Tiffany said he and the pilot Leonard bolts Remained on top of the plane in Lake Warsaw until it began sinking
Before deciding to try and swim ashore.
He said they swim about 100 to 150 feet until they reach water shallow enough to stand in so Do they have a truck?
Do you smell the exhaust in here?
No, I know the hearse is here a
you
Oh,
didn't
I swear, you know, Zach's going to that funeral for the DJ
I don't I don't smell.
Oh,
You don't smell that.
That's pure carbon monoxide.
What they do is they load the food trucks.
You're not smell that Didn't get your ass out of here.
I smell it I tell it smells like a Diesel exhaust pipe is coming right they've done this before we had to tell them because they idle the trucks while they unload it and the exhaust fumes come in the studio And there's no windows in here.
So I'm we go to break out go outside.
Oh, no, we're gonna go to break right now And I'm gonna go out I'm about to cuss them out.
Okay over here losing feeling in my feet
I'm tired of passing out on air.
And we got people calling.
Okay, callers, you hang on.
Let me go save my life real quick.
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Everything gonna be alright this morning.
Oh, yeah.
Woo!
You've got a new government.
It's called Trumpism.
A lot of people are frustrated, right?
Donald Trump promised to come and clean it up get the immigrants out of here You're rid of all the DEI and all the affirmative action.
Oh, you have a new government.
This is what your new government looks like New don't always mean better ladies and gentlemen.
Let's talk to Let's try Sandra you're on one on one seven the truth.
How are you?
I'm just fine.
How are you today?
I'm doing good.
What's on your
mind?
And then the money gets snipped out of the city and our city all run down and all the distance.
But what if we go back to the era where we were doing real well, where the jobs were here, you would find a job anywhere.
Because like I said, I'm of an age, so I could apply anywhere for a job.
But we still had to fight the racism because we had to have like urban needs and all that stuff to help us get jobs equally, at least fairly.
But what if we go back?
to that part to build us to let the people know especially young kids how we got built up to a good point and how it got slotted because that's when all the demolish started up the city.
You know you started getting boarded up houses, raggedy streets.
They built this first way to take the white people out and then they had the buses they could take in the city and get the job.
And so there's a lot going on to make sure we never got a head because if we got a head, we probably would have been closer.
And then they would probably burn to death or build up with water to get rid of us.
But I think it's really sad that we as black people, first thing we say is lock them up and kill them.
Or, you know, the students, they need to be locked up.
You know, you got a president killing up a whole America.
I've never heard nobody say that.
You got white people shooting each other.
They don't say thoughts and prayers no more.
They give the gun people, they've even given them more relaxed rules that anybody, a baby, five-year-old could have a rifle.
Come on.
You know, there's so much garbage that's going on, and black people, whenever they see like Tom Tiffany, oh, we're going through the crime, he needs black faith.
So tell the people, he and y'all, don't think because I'm educated, I'm listening to that, they're going after your education.
They went after government employees, we are educated.
They're going after the medical field where they're cutting out, where you can't even get your treatment.
You can't decide the stuff to go in.
There's a whole lot of political mess.
And the biggest criminals are your political mess, especially up there in Washington, DC, where traffic is this positive.
You need to talk about them and get behind closed doors and get a strategy.
OK, Sherman, that's what I have to say.
OK, bye-bye.
Bye.
Bye-bye.
I Like that one too We're always very nostalgic about the past.
You know, it wasn't this violin in the six days All right, let's go back then Let's go back to Milwaukee making and manufacturing everything.
Let's go back to a whole bunch of breweries.
Let's go back to assembly lines Going back to manufacturing plane.
You think that's ever gonna come back today is Monday
You think you can make today Monday yesterday, which was Sunday?
You cannot all you can do is hope and wait for this upcoming Sunday.
We can never go back Nostalgia only exists in history books and in our minds We can't go back That's and I don't want to diminish people that because I wax nostalgic to our members some time ago when things were I don't know better or our memories tend to
water down all of the negative.
I remember the 90s, 90s was a great decade.
People were getting murdered in the 90s too.
But all of a sudden I only remember the fun.
Like oh I wish we could go back to all the nightlife we had in the 90s.
There was a lot of murder going on back then too.
Like a lot of murder.
Routinely 140, 150, 160 homicides between like the end of the 1980s and the middle of the 1990s.
We were averaging triple digit homicides every single year in the city of Milwaukee.
Yet that's the time in which I whack nostalgia.
Oh, we should go back.
No, we can't.
We don't want to go back to that either.
Let's talk to Al from Sherman Park.
You're on one on one seven.
The truth.
How are you?
I'm doing well.
How about yourself
doing good?
What's on your mind?
Well, first I was going to talk about the plane crash, but then I did want to mention about the prisons.
Why don't we just lock up the violent people and put the less violent people like.
Thieves house arrest or 100% we 100% contracting to send them out of state to like Texas
very expensive.
But yeah, we're doing that too.
Well, but you don't want to come those back around you robbing your house robbing and killing you.
They're gonna get out.
Why do we
Well, I've known some felons.
They have turned their lives around and then there's some felons that do stupid stuff and go back.
they'll turn their
Well, anyway, prison doesn't
makes them better
Well, then that goes back to that.
Philosophy eliminate them.
You know what they do in Muslim countries.
I'm just saying we're nicer to them than the Muslim countries are
We are some of the most I'm thoroughly convinced why we have so many homicides because at every level of black person Murder is an option They're killing each other on the streets, but then when I'm talking to y'all today Well, we got to get rid of them like you're the third or fourth person today.
So well, we got to get rid of them
Sometimes get rid of
them means
Not going to put them in concentration camps.
But then the other part of get rid of them is kill them.
So I see why they are murdering because they are literally doing and executing what we are talking about on Black Talk radio.
So I totally get it.
And at the
same time,
Well, people come up with the excuse there's nothing we can do with them.
And then the last resort would be a limiting.
Exactly.
That's what's happening on the street.
We, and I'm saying the big we, are not different than them because we want murder as a tool too.
They want to get rid of people that they have beefs with.
We have a beef with them because they're ruining our city.
They're making our property values go down.
They're using up all the police resources.
And so what's our solution?
Well, we got to kill them.
We got to get rid of them.
So we're not different than them.
Because they're not going to reform but anyway exactly the plane I worked in travel And there's one thing I will never do is get on somebody's private little put put plane because when those planes run out of power Some people have a false impression that planes glide they glide like a rock Now when I worked in travel the large jets because we work with US scare US scare has so many crashes.
I'd never get on their planes voluntarily
But yeah, I don't know why Tom Tiffany would insist on flying around getting that car and drive around I bet he won't get another one of those little putt putt planes
I bet he will all
All right, bye
teach them to read and give them
Lost businesses and jobs, economic damage goes beyond homeowners.
The Urban Institute research found that reductions in gun violence were associated with more new businesses, more jobs, greater retail activity, fewer business closings, and stronger neighborhood property appreciation.
In Washington, researchers found that 10 fewer gunfire incidents in a single census tract
were associated with one additional business opening.
20 additional jobs in new businesses and $1.3 million in additional sales at a new business.
If there's 10 fewer gunfire incidents, that's what you get.
$1.3 million poured into the optimism and hope bucket.
Those numbers should not be directly transplanted onto Milwaukee, but they do illustrate that there is a mechanism.
Violence therefore produces an expense that never appears under a government budget line.
Businesses that never opened, jobs that were never created, houses that never appreciated, and families that chose another neighborhood.
Lost wages.
Violence removes people from the productivity economy in several directions simultaneously.
A shooting victim may lose weeks, months, or years of work.
A disabled victim may permanently leave the labor force and collect disability until the day of their death.
A homicide victim loses decades of potential earnings and tax revenue.
An incarcerated offender also leaves the labor force.
Family members often miss work caring for victims or attending court proceedings and funerals.
And taxpayers lose income pay.
payroll, sales and other tax revenue.
The NICJR therefore attributes $88,352 and lost tax revenue alone to an average fatal Milwaukee shooting and another $12,369 for a non fatal shooting.
I've got 123 people on hold.
Why don't we take Marlin?
You're on one on one seven.
The truth.
How are you?
Good yourself doing good.
Good, I think part of issue that we're having here is lack of empathy for people.
Um, we cannot tell people, you know, because you're poor, then we're going to just kill you or get rid of you because we're listening.
Then we're just we're just.
uh, condemning people because they're poor, we're condemning poverty.
And that's not a good thing for our country either.
You know, and then the other people talk about, well, let's go back.
Like you just said is we can't go back because manufacturing ain't here like it used to be.
But you know, all the other industry that was here a long time ago is not here no more.
So you can't go back.
We can't go.
It would be nice to have had a place for people to work, but a lot of places.
People don't work because like you say education or lack of reading or whatever situation may be so we can't have that.
And just sending people to jail or prison is one that is not smart.
We there is a way we could do bring people nonviolent felons and do stuff for them because we spent like a $100,000 per person every year that they're present.
So we took that money and invested it.
We, we will probably save a lot more money less, but, uh, but running prisons is big business because if you know all the prisons are on these little, little small towns that spark industry in those towns.
So, you know, we got a lot of issues, but yeah.
Thank you sir.
All right.
When somebody gets shot, taxpayers do not merely pay for an ambulance and two police cars.
A single shooting can activate.
Are you ready for this?
911 dispatch, police patrol, fire slash EMS, emergency room, trauma surgery, detectives, forensic services, medical examiners, prosecutors, public defenders, courts, pretrial detention, trial, incarceration, probation, parole, victim compensation, counseling, and reentry services.
For some cases, government remains financially involved for decades.
That's why the $2 million price attached to a single homicide is plausible.
Even when, even though, rather, the visible response on the night of the shooting may cost only a few thousand dollars.
The larger Milwaukee number, if we combine the findings conceptually, not arithmetic-wise, because there is some overlap, a reasonable picture emerges.
Anti-violence slash reentry slash victim services infrastructures, $175 million a year.
Direct government economic burden of shooting $744 million is the recent Milwaukee estimate.
Property value suppression, diminished investment, lost business activity, uncompensated household costs, trauma and lifetime productivity losses are not even fully captured.
I'm gonna take a break, come back.
That was my last segment.
We'll take a couple phone calls on the other side.
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I were you
I'm fine.
Thank you.
I want to touch on three things right quick.
One of your callers earlier said that, you know, they need to get rid of slum lords, rent assistance section eight.
I just want to be clear.
They have all those things in every county, every city, every state that does not negate the violence and all the other things that happen in Milwaukee.
The second thing is one of your callers said, I think he said he was.
a former, excuse me, white in and he said, you know, you just have to find your blissful piece and your little pocket of happiness.
But at the same time, how do you do that when you have crime all around you?
When you have people stealing cars, running on lights, high-speed chases, killing people.
And then the third thing I think I want to say is you caught the people who said that they should just kill them.
you know, you said they're on the killing train.
I think that what they're saying is there's no accountability.
At what point are people going to be held accountable?
Nothing is getting done.
It's just like a revolving door.
So there's no accountability.
So people are continually doing more crimes and nothing's going to change.
And then one more thing I want to add, you said, move away.
And I get that because I've done that.
However, what about the people who can't move away?
What if you're older and you've built your life and you have your church and you have this and that?
You know, that's not a solution either.
I get what you're saying.
I get what you're coming from.
However, that's not a solution.
So my whole point and I want to end on this is there's just no accountability down to the DA.
You know, the court system, they don't hold people accountable.
There's no accountability.
So I understand where people are saying, just kill them.
And I don't think they physically mean I'm going to take a gun and kill them.
But you have all these programs and all these nonprofits as you just stated yourself that are popping up, but nothing is being done because it starts at the mind.
People want to keep making excuses and, you know, education is that people know right from wrong, period.
And that's it.
You know, so at a certain point we have to make.
these young people, people, whoever accountable.
So that's all I wanted to say.
How are you doing today?
mind?
Well, in some cases, I'm I'm I'm with Militia.
In some cases, you might have to kill a couple of them.
I've been in prison before, so I'm talking from experience.
It's a couple of things that you have said that you said that prison doesn't work.
Actually, prison does work.
It's just that sometimes people just don't want to change because sometimes the excuse is better than the change.
You'll notice that people that have gotten out of prison is doing better than people that has never been to prison.
People that have gotten changed, they lie, they get up and do some things.
And it's a crazy thing that when I was in prison, I've seen it with my own eyes.
This is not something I'm saying from the sidelines.
A person to buy a long clock in jail to get up and go work in the kitchen for 40 cents an hour.
And I heard this with my own ears that say, I mean, on the streets, make it crazy.
I ain't gonna be working for no $7.25 an hour.
I've seen this and I heard this.
It's a crazy thing that you will never see dirt, but you'll never see a dust ball in the prison cell.
Never.
You just don't see it.
You see people are unloading trucks.
You see them in their washing dishes.
You see them washing clothes.
You see them cutting grass, cutting trees, fixing cars, fixing the building up, doing work.
They do all of that stuff.
Now, when I say 40 cents an hour, that's the highest that you're going to pay.
It might be less than that.
But when they get out, they don't want to do that out here for those $7.25 an hour.
So the accountability needs to be this.
You either do this or you get that.
And here's another thing, and they sound extreme, but for people that don't want to change, once you've built an apartment building over here in the city, they'll say, you can live here.
You can do whatever you want.
You can throw your trash out the window.
You can shoot and kill each other.
You can do whatever, because this is where you want to live at.
It may sound extreme, but sometimes that's what we may have to do.
I've been there before.
I shot three people.
That's why I went to jail.
And in my involvement, I should have never got out.
That's what I did.
And the reason why I say this is because I should have left it alone.
I should have talked myself in the prison.
I should have left it alone.
And don't think.
Since I got out of prison that I'm not mad or I don't get upset, it's been a couple of people I want to slap their life out of their ass.
But I have to have some self-control.
Just like when you see people shoot on the streets when they got these so-called anger issues or irritation issues along with this issue, then you know all of a sudden you know how to control yourself.
You don't hear about them slapping on their guards, beating up other inmates.
They don't have no riots, ain't no sexual assault.
They don't do none of that up in here.
No robbing, no stealing, no spending the block.
No crash now, none of that.
That's
Sounds like he needs to be put down.
Like when he tells his story.
He's got companies and landscaping businesses.
He employs people like he is one of the examples because earlier I said, okay, prison doesn't work because we have a recidivism problem.
He is one of the examples of prison working.
Also, there's other examples, but I think by and large, a certain kind of person is able to get rehabilitated easier than others.
One of the things that I do, but I am very strict and specific, is I write letters on behalf of people that are seeking pardons.
And I am happy to say that every time I've written a letter on behalf of someone seeking a pardon, they have gotten a full and unconditional.
But I don't do them for everybody.
But there are some people that...
that exhibit the qualities and the traits that we want them to have and they realize their full potential once they've served some time in confinement because maybe they're getting structure, maybe they're getting discipline, maybe they're having exposure to educational materials and they're getting their GED and they're getting their associates degree, things that we wish that they could have taken advantage of while they were out here, but maybe they were surrounded by or distracted by or in a family situation that did not allow for that.
But a question I would ask to just normal average everyday regular people.
What would you do if you had to feed your family and had no money?
No, no, no.
Answer me the question.
You can't go to a bank and get a loan.
You can't borrow no money from your family members.
You have no credit cards.
You have no bank account.
What are you going to do?
Your rent is due.
Your electricity is about to get shut off.
You got to feed three hungry babies.
You need brakes, tires, and gas for the car.
What are you going to do?
No, no, no.
Tell me what you're going to do.
And sitting and waiting is not an option.
And the check that you get, not enough.
You need breaks, you need tires, you need gas for the car, you gotta feed these kids, you gotta pay the rent, you gotta pay your bills.
You don't got no credit cards, you can't go to a bank, and you can't ask any family members for money.
Once you answer that question, I think you'll have a better understanding.
Because here's the thing, you're gonna feed your kids.
Oh, you go and eat, you know what I mean?
But at whose expense?
Then when they do that when someone's back is against the wall because they're gonna feed their kids They're gonna eat.
Oh, they gonna get gas for the car and then when they Do what they have to do To feed them kids to pay them bills pay that rent pay that we energies bill will incarcerate them for that But I would ask you the same question.
No, no, no, maybe we're gonna talk about that tomorrow
What would you do and stop saying?
Well, I have money saved, not in this scenario.
You have nothing.
You're negative $40 in your bank account.
And you got immediate needs right now.
What are you going to do?
How are you going to get that money?
I'm not going to answer it today, but maybe they'll answer it on the lunch break, which is up next.
I'll see y'all next time.
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The truth with Sherwin Hughes I get Really frustrated and I'd imagine some of you do as well with Not just the reoccurrence of violence in the city But our benign responses to it it's just it we just expected it just happens it just happens Every winter time
When we think about the warm weather months because you you long for nicer days in the middle of winter, but then Our excitement about the summer because summer is in Milwaukee can be a lot of fun because there's a lot more things to do a lot of stuff going on festivals Outdoor activities, it's always tempered with well, you know There's gonna be an uptick in violent crime and shootings and homicide so we can't even be fully fully excited
about the summer because we know that it comes with a catch and what's even more frustrating is another anti-violence
meeting another anti-violence rally, anti-violence walk, another nonprofit dedicated to the violence and the anti-violence and stop the violence.
And then you got people posting all over social media stuff like, and this, I believe this slogan is really, really helpful.
It works really well when people say stuff like, put the guns down.
Saying, put the guns down.
Is as effective as parents saying well, let's stay together for the kids When has that ever worked?
It hasn't might as well get divorced It just gets nauseating Well, what did you do over the weekend?
I went to an anti-gun violence rally and then I went to a march and then I went to the organization in the nonprofit
designed for the victims and the victim services because, you know, violence, we are being held hostage by what I believe is a very small group of people.
So before I go and start assigning blame, because that is not what these next several segments is going to be about.
It's not about assigning blame because we've done that and it gets us nowhere.
It's not even about, you know, creating policy because they just know that there's a hole in our bucket of opportunity and opportunity leaks out.
And that opportunity oftentimes leaks out to other places, to other cities, to other towns, other counties, other metro areas, other states and other regions.
There's a lot of talent and a lot of really great people that are cultivated here in Wisconsin and Milwaukee.
We've got a lot of great institutions here.
We've got a lot of great schools here, but then people go somewhere else to realize their talent because our opportunity bucket in the city has a hole in it and it is hemorrhaging.
It needs a tourniquet.
And so people leave.
There's so much violence in the city of Milwaukee of all types.
I'm talking about the street type even fights shootings fatal non-fatal domestic violence It is an industry ladies and gentlemen.
It's a two-fold industry There's the industry that prevents it and then there's an industry that tries to treat it after the fact we're very reactionary to because we've got so many agencies and organizations and anything that has
any kind of funding to stop violence or mitigate violence and provide youth activities.
All of that is siphoning money away from things that I think could be much more productive like training people, getting people a skill, providing more opportunities for folks, encouraging people to move here and invest in the city of Milwaukee.
It is an industry.
We have a violence industrial complex.
That is why I don't believe this is my personal opinion.
You can disagree.
And actually, I want you to.
There's no real motivation to stop, to reduce or to fix because so much money is made after the shot has been fired.
Whole industries are employed.
People have pensions and benefits and wages and promotions based on how much violence there is in the city of Milwaukee and all of the infrastructure like the business infrastructure, the non-profit infrastructure that is designed and expecting the violence.
Gotta help the victims gotta have this organization gotta have this gotta have these services gotta have the counseling services gotta hire more EMTs gotta have more first responders gotta have more police gotta have more this we are spending more money than we have and there are people making money So when you think about money think about a cycle Like water is the cycle, you know that all of the water that has ever been on earth is still here on earth It just gets cycle because even when you drink water the water comes out of you when you go pee pee
And then the water and the oceans goes up into the clouds.
And then the clouds are like, oh, we're full.
And then the water comes back down in the form of rain and precipitation.
So all the water just cycles.
Money cycles, too.
So we are spending money on something.
Prevention or awareness.
Or we got to have another anti-violence rally.
Got to have another anti-violence walk.
We should be in real good shape.
How many violence walks do we go on?
Every walk is the top.
Tori Lowe does the violence walk.
Every year he's still doing those.
I want to hope he does he walks.
I never participated in him because I'll be damn I'm just not doing that.
It's not me.
I'm not that's so low.
No, I shouldn't say that.
We're better than that.
Like we're just reduced.
Well, we can't
stop any of the violence.
Let's
Let's just been walking since the goddamn civil rights movement ain't gone anywhere on a treadmill.
Racking up all these miles burn up all this shoe leather doing all these walks.
Aren't y'all sick of that?
It's embarrassing It is and I don't want to diminish the people that have been hurt But I know that there is an industry that exists and every single day somebody wants to start another nonprofit I got to help the people I got to start another nonprofit.
Okay fine help start the nonprofit
Help the people, but you gotta get paid, you need money, you need grants, you gotta pay your staff, you gotta have management, you gotta have a building.
Okay, that's all well and good, but all of that money that is being given to you, your agency, your nonprofit, and maybe you're making a difference, maybe you're not.
I know that the numbers stay relatively consistent every single year, even though homicides may be down 9%, other categories of crime is up.
Whenever a crime exists every single year it costs more money and when I give you the details of how much money it costs It's not just in the obvious There are people standing outside of my window taking pictures Now there's two white people hugging.
Do you see this Xavier?
Do you see how there's not a lady's putting their armor on?
What happens like
why do they do these things to me?
I don't even want to hear what you got to say.
You're gonna throw me off track I'm frustrated is what I'm trying to tell you There's a whole industry dedicated to black tragedy We got a museum showcasing our Holocaust really you only need to go once Our whole story
It seems or the most popular Characterized parts of the black story is one of tragedy You know any black people have played slaves and movies slaves and mammy's because that's just Not we've played other roles too has a bit of black James Bond Has an isn't Idris Elba Elba with his beautiful self isn't he a black James Bond?
They were talking about it, but I think that's not going to happen.
They didn't give it to him.
He could be a good black James Bond.
Hello.
Bond James Bond.
White women will absolutely sleep with him.
They'll leave their husbands in a second.
Actually, no, they won't.
Yeah, leave your husband to sleep with somebody.
Just sleep with them and don't tell your husband.
Husband won't even know.
I mean, come on, fellas.
If your wife wants to go.
Hang out with Idris Elba like if he's willing like you should be proud of it You know they hey everybody Idris Elba knows my wife personally.
Oh really?
Can I have your autograph sir?
Yes, you can The more nonprofits we have The more revenue we are losing and we cannot invest in other areas.
I'm gonna give you a little snapshot here because I'm gonna get into some
Pretty heavy stuff in a second by one third of all of the land in the city of Milwaukee is owned or occupied by an entity or an agency that collects zero property tax dollars So about 33 or 34 ish
Square miles which is a lot in a city that is ninety six point one square miles collects no tax revenue and so that other sixty four sixty five percent of land and buildings and dwellings therein has got to be the
entire tax burden for the city and we're not
Ask me about how we can get more land because we need more Milwaukee needs to expand.
I say we go west.
Let's take a little piece of walking show.
What are they going to do?
I think we should annex a little piece of Ozarkie County.
We should annex a little piece of Washington County.
Would say we annex a little piece of the county directly south of us, you know, that's southern County That's right south of Milwaukee County You know what County that is what County is just south of Milwaukee County if you're traveling south on the 94 headed to Chicago and you cross out of Milwaukee County was that first County you go to I don't want to piece it out everything but Because we need more land and we need more property that we can tax because one-third of the land is either a church
A school, a government building, so think of city hall, think of police stations, fire stations, the municipal buildings, all of the city-owned building, the Department of Public Works, the police stations, the police substations, the places where the police have their squad cars.
A third of the land is a government agency entity or non-profit.
The more nonprofits we have and the more buildings they acquire, that's less tax revenue that is coming into the city and that's a bigger tax burden on us.
At the same time, MPS is hungry.
They want every penny they can possibly get.
We are taxing people to oblivion, but I still don't believe that is why people are leaving.
People are leaving this city because the violence industrial complex is $744 million.
Every single year we don't have that kind of money.
I need to think about this now This is three quarters of a billion dollars coming from a city of five hundred thousand people for all of the violence prevention all of the intended and unintended consequences of a shooting a non-fatal shooting a fight the lost property tax dollars people leaving the city and taking their property tax dollars and they're spending with them it is insane Milwaukee Bucks revenue
It's 350 million dollars a year Our violence industrial complex is roughly two seasons of Milwaukee bucks revenue all of it all of it the whole dear district all of it all the ticket sales all of the beers all of the drinks all of the hot dogs and all of the popcorns Everything all of the concessions all the goddamn jerseys you buy the violence industrial complex in this city is three quarters of a billion dollars
Someone is getting paid when we shoot each other and they're not inclined to have us stop.
I'm gonna take a break come back We're gonna get into it today because I don't blame anybody for leaving because if you were spending that kind of money every single year We can't pour into the opportunity bucket
We can't.
We've got to spend way too much money.
Got to have a violence program here.
Got to have a nonprofit here.
Got to have this.
Got to do a violence walk.
Got to do a community gathering.
A community get together.
Got to have a community anti-violence program.
Got to have a community forum.
Let's have a meeting.
Should we have a meeting?
Let's have another meeting to talk about somebody getting shot.
But hold on.
Be careful where you have the meeting because somebody might get shot at the meeting.
And then we're going to have the meeting when Miles will plan for the next meeting because somebody's going to get shot in between meetings.
In the wintertime we're going to plan we're going to plan for a safe summer because we know a bunch of people are going to get shot and they're going to get killed Can't do anything about it, but we can have let's plan You guys want to start another agency another nonprofit because we don't have enough of those Let's see if we can start one more if we just have one more agency one more nonprofit then maybe just maybe somebody won't shoot somebody You know how much each shooting cost you know how much they cost 2.05 million dollars and all of the associated services that takes place with the shooting
Two million dollars per shooting and we simply can't stop might as well give them the bullets then Might as well make the bullets easier to get because if we know they're gonna shoot why should we have to stress them out on where they're gonna get the ammo?
It's insane to me.
It really is and when I look at these numbers like I got sick They were just sitting here just spending the money just throwing good money after bad The truth with Sherwin Hughes on one on one seven FM will be right back
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Once the definition is expanded beyond street outreach workers to include violence prevention, victim services, reentry, probation, parole, community corrections, and the personnel infrastructure required to operate all of those systems, Milwaukee has what can be reasonably described as a nine
Figure annual violence response economy listen to me.
We have a violence response Economy it is a financial ecosystem of something that I believe is It's preventable But why would you prevent something I'm gonna give you the low estimate and then I'm gonna give you the full Monty
The full dollar amount is getting in some estimates here.
It's over a billion dollars when you look at lost property values lost entrepreneurship opportunities.
It goes on and on and on Why would you want to stop that somebody is making money and it ain't us The best estimate is that roughly 125 to 175 million dollars in distinct public and nonprofit resources are spent every year in Milwaukee
on prevention, intervention, victim services, reentry and community corrections related to violence and serious offending.
If you simply add the operating budgets of the organizations and agencies involved without correcting for grants and contracts that pass from government agencies to nonprofits, the apparent ecosystem approaches or exceeds $180 million to $220 million every 12 years.
months.
This is separate from the much larger economic costs caused by violence itself.
A recent Milwaukee area of public health analysis puts the government slash economic costs of just shootings, just shootings alone at $744,500,000 every 12 months.
And even that figure does not fully capture depressed property values, reduced business activity, foregone investment, trauma, educational disruption, quality of life losses, or the statistical value of lives loss.
I'm going to read you some components in the annual spending, and this should open your eyes to something that we simply throw our hands up and can't prevent.
My eyes will make money off of it.
Can't stop it can't stop somebody from shooting can't Can't can't tell people to talk it out or maybe I don't know walk away As angry as I may get at someone and I've been pretty hot I always reserve the right for diplomacy When the leaders of warring nations who are literally killing each other's children at the time of the meeting
If they can sit down, then I don't know why two people that have an argument over a woman can't just say, hey, screw her.
Let's not kill each other over her.
But no, you've got to shoot somebody in the face because they took your woman.
Milwaukee Department of Community Wellness and Safety, approximate annual spending $5,100,000.
Milwaukee County Community Reintegration Center, $67.1 million per year.
The Sojourner Family Peace Center, $9,500,000 per year.
Wisconsin Community Services, $54.2 million per year.
Even the Running Rebels program is included in this $5.3 million per year.
Safe and Sound, $2,450,000
per year.
domestic abuse victim and witness operations, three plus million dollars just in staff, other victim reentry, domestic violence, community programs, millions more, Wisconsin Department of Corrections probation parole, attributable to Milwaukee alone, 10 plus million dollars every single year.
The city department of community wellness and safety is a good example of how misleading the commonly cited figure can be.
It's 2026, departmental budget is about $1.35 million, but when special purpose appropriations and grants associated with this programs are included, the program structure represents $5,108,000, approximately $2.31 million in operating, SPAs, and another $2.80 million in grants.
Programs include violence interruption, not just, you gotta interrupt it.
I know you're gonna shoot, but
just pause.
Let's spend a couple million
I am not at all trying to be disrespectful to the people that do this work because they're very, very good people.
I just want them and everybody else to know that there is a financial ecosystem that is based upon the recurring violence in the city of Milwaukee.
Whether we know what causes it, whether we know how to prevent it, all of that is irrelevant because it exists.
And whatever forms it exists in, and there are many, many forms of it, there is a financial ecosystem that costs the city of Milwaukee almost a billion dollars every single year.
That does not mean that the people who are working in these industries are faulty.
It doesn't mean they aren't good at their jobs.
It's just they are part of a system that is like a permanent fixture.
of this city and maybe other cities have it too but I don't live in other cities if I want to have a good time in this city I have to sometimes burden myself to go to places where bullets can't reach and I'll gladly do it but damn it gets expensive there's a cost on that too going to places where you are safe and where you feel safe and those places absolutely exist in the city but you are going to pay a premium but then at the end of the day
My life is worth the investment, I suppose, but I have to go to the places where the bullet can't reach.
Milwaukee County's Community Reintegration Center, formerly the House of Corrections, has a 2026 expenditure budget of $67,130,000, including $29.08 million in personnel expenses.
It has 358 full-time employees.
Its stated mission specifically includes successful reintegration programming and resources intended to produce behavioral change and enhance public safety.
How large is the institutional economy Milwaukee maintains because of violence, serious crime and recidivism?
Probation and parole is another substantial layer.
Wisconsin's division of community corrections, supervisors, probationers, parolees, and people on extended supervision.
Milwaukee's Region 3 alone had 13,027 clients, 373.5 staff positions and 260 probation and parole agents in fiscal year 2025.
That is roughly one-fifth of Wisconsin's entire community supervision population.
Just in one zone in the city of Milwaukee The state also spends 38 million 790 thousand dollars statewide and fiscal year 2026 just on Purchased community corrections goods and services.
That's the economy because now you can sell all of these agencies all of the products and the services that they will need there is no Real motivation to stop the violence which you need to do is manage it so that you can
Profit off of it because if it's not going anywhere if it's a fixture that we just throw our hands up and don't know how to prevent Might as well get paid at least somebody can retire off of it, you know The state also spent thirty eight point seven nine million dollars statewide and fiscal year 2026 just on purchased community corrections goods and services things such as treatment cognitive behavioral programs housing
community reintegration, employment services, substance use treatment and reentry.
That $38.8 million does not represent the entire DCC personnel operating budget.
So Milwaukee's attributable probation parole and reentry footprint.
is readily in the tens of millions of dollars once salaries, benefits, office space, and contracted treatment is counted.
The non-profit violence economy is significant by itself.
So I'm gonna take a break, come back.
I'm gonna talk about this other part of the economy here in Milwaukee.
It is a significant one.
It's the non-profits that exist just to, I don't know, help victims, prevent violence, organize the marches and the walks.
It is substantial and just think now all of this money that is going into quote-unquote prevention and victim services We could be allocating literally literally anywhere else anywhere else Pave the roads give it the NPS.
I don't have to ask for referendums Talk about that on the other side.
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The nonprofit violence economy is significant by itself.
And so let us challenge the notion that we are spending so much money downtown.
Well, you have to invest where property values are highest because the better downtown is doing the more overall revenue.
is coming into city coffers and then state coffers and then we hope that we can get a better return on the money that we are sending to Madison via our income taxes, sales taxes, etc.
So the more people that are spending money downtown, the more overall revenue that is generated.
But there's more money on violence prevention in the city of Milwaukee and I can't even narrow it down to probably five or six zip codes than the entire Bucs ecosystem.
I need you to listen to me good.
All of the ticket sales and every single beer, drink, and chicken wing order from every restaurant in the Deer District.
Every single year, violence prevention resources is three bucks seasons that we are spending.
So no, no, no, we're not spending more money downtown.
We're spending more money on us.
That's where the money is going.
So don't think that people are stealing the money.
You're wondering if there's a bunch of financial mismanagement going.
The violence ecosystem in the city of Milwaukee is a billion dollars a year.
That is three times annual Milwaukee bucks revenue every single year So yes money is being spent downtown more is being spent on us now I don't know That's probably not our priority of where we want the money spent, but at this point we don't have a choice the Sojourner Family Peace Center 9.5 2 million dollars in fiscal year 2025
including approximately $4.47 million in salaries and wages, serving domestic violence survivors and families.
About 130 employees were reported running rebels $5.28 million in 2024 expenses.
96 employees, about $4.1 million was classified as program service spending.
Its programs explicitly include violence slash gang prevention and juvenile justice intervention.
Imagine that spending $4.1 million to prevent.
gang violence, safe and sound program approximately $2.45 million in 2025 expenses with 38 employees specifically organized around crime prevention, youth programming, neighborhood safety, and community law enforcement partnerships.
And so once I start getting through this list, you're going to see the sheer number of people.
It's like thousands of people in this city that work in some kind of or extension of anti violence violence prevention.
Victim Services programs thousands of people and it's hardly making a dent It's hardly making a dent And so since a dent is hardly being made by almost a billion dollars being spent on trying to prevent violence And you might as well just try manage it, you know But this is where our money is going.
So please don't think that somebody is stealing from you Please don't think the oh, they're investing all this money downtown.
We have to put money somewhere.
So think of downtown as like
the Dow Jones or the S&P 500 where Milwaukee is investing its property tax dollars and a lot of its resources in hopes that we get a better turn return on our investment so that the return on the investment that we get from investing downtown can fund these goddamn anti violence prevention programs So that's that's how you got to think of the flow of money in the city
Bunch of people come downtown for concerts and shows.
That's why when there's violence downtown, it really, really hurts because we need more wallets downtown spending money.
So we have more money to give to the safe and sound program and running rebels and all of the things to stop the people from doing all of the shooting.
And it doesn't really stop all of the people from doing all of the shooting.
Then there's Wisconsin Community Services, one of the largest players in the rehabilitation reentry infrastructure.
Its recent expenses were $54,190,000 with more than $28 million devoted to salaries and wages.
Its operations include court services, community reintegration, behavioral health and corrections programs.
Community Advocates adds another $17,760,000.
Portions support domestic violence, homelessness, behavioral health.
crisis serves.
We're just a city that's just really troubled.
What's wrong Milwaukee?
Why y'all so sad?
Why everybody's sad?
Counting the whole organization would overstate the violence specific total, but excluding it, the money that community advocates receives would all together understate the full violence ecosystem.
The estimate of Milwaukee specific anti violence industry.
So this is the stuff designed to stop the shooting and the punchings in the face The narrow definition so prevention Intervention Which clearly doesn't work because then you have victim assistance.
So you got money for prevention?
There's money for intervention and then we need money for victim assistance because the prevention and the intervention didn't work
$25 to $40 million every year on those three categories, prevention, intervention, and victim assistance.
That's wild.
I don't know if the answer is another agency, another organization, or another nonprofit, or another walk, community violence walk is the answer.
I think it's just an accompaniment.
I think it's something that exists.
They can get funded, where people can get paid, and they can feed their families based upon an inability to resolve conflict amongst people.
This encompasses violence interruption, domestic violence services, victim services, neighborhood safety programs, youth violence prevention, credible messengers, and closely related non-profit activity.
The expanded definition will include
Prevention plus victims plus reentry plus probation and parole plus community corrections.
So the whole gamut, okay That's approximately 100 25 million and 175 million dollars in Distinct annual spending they're spending more money on us than they are spending downtown Can we put that myth to rest?
I think people say that because downtown looks really nice and we must assume Oh, they're spending a bunch of money here.
They need to
Because the revenue that is generated from downtown economic and business activity needs to fund the anti-violence programs that are taking place I don't know about two and a half miles away sometimes not even two and a half miles away They're funding anti-violence programs in downtown itself.
Let me continue the gross institutional footprint before eliminating overlapping government grants and contracts is 180
to two hundred and twenty million dollars every single year and this is not Milwaukee County this is just the city quote Milwaukee appears to have at least a one hundred twenty five million to one hundred seventy five million dollar a year violence prevention victim service community corrections and reentry ecosystem and that's before counting
ordinary policing prosecution.
Oh, I didn't even count the policing costs.
Oh, I forgot about that.
Where's my policing costs at?
Oh, add a zero on everything for the policing costs.
Milwaukee appears to have at least $125 million to $175 million a year of violence prevention, victim service, community corrections.
and reentry ecosystem, and that's before counting ordinary policing, prosecution, the entire court system, prisons, and emergency medicine that needs to be administered to victims.
So when we think about our current crop of elected officials, right, wherever they serve, whether it be the mayor, the people appointed by the mayor, the people on all the different commissions and the boards and the common council and the common council staff and all of the county board and all of the county people, think about that.
To run for office means that you have to deal with this.
This is what you're representing.
This is what you do every single day when you go to work.
It's not, oh, I'm going to go and create jobs.
You have to manage a violence economy, a violence ecosystem that has almost a billion dollars all told.
almost a billion dollar industry.
This is what you do as an elected official.
You're not stopping anything.
You're not preventing anything.
You are managing the next bullet that gets fired and all of the consequences that take place after that.
And all the agencies and all the nonprofits and all the prevention and all the staff and all of the management and all of the buildings and all of the software they need for all of their computers to track who's going to get shot and how many times.
And I did not even include policing in this.
That is a whole another whole because we're going to pay for policing forever.
These cops get pensions, their wives, their surviving spouses get pensions.
So the more police we need and some of you would say, oh my God, yes, we need more police.
OK, we're going to pay for those cops, their salaries and their benefits and their health insurance until their spouse dies.
We could be talking about.
45 50 years of city tax money and revenue Paying for the pensions of these cops that we need more of so when you say we need more police know that that comes at a cost, too It's a lot cheaper if you can just say hey Learn to talk it out or if you have a problem with someone and you know that they go to the basketball court at McGovern Park Maybe maybe go to Lincoln Park and play basketball.
You know what I'm saying?
Maybe just go
Maybe go to Grant Park.
Maybe go maybe don't go to a park at all Maybe park your ass at home on the couch and watch Netflix for 895 a month the cheaper tier of Netflix the one with the commercials and I don't mind the cheaper tier of Netflix with the commercials cuz during the Netflix commercials I check my phone
It's not
bad Instead of being out there in my government Park shooting at somebody not talking about shooting a basketball either Take a break come back
I'm gonna leave you with this and then we're gonna come back and we're gonna dig you guys want to dig Let's dig Xavier.
Are we digging so we get deeper?
I can go so much deeper.
Yeah goes deep as you can.
I'm gonna hit the cervix.
Yeah, there you go ouch Some people like that The National Institute for criminal justice reform Calculated the total cost
of a single Milwaukee fatal shooting at $2,050,000 per fatal shooting.
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La
Honestly move And I hate to sound like a pessimist here, but come on you know We're spending three quarters of a billion dollars and where's that getting it?
What what else can you do?
We're doing it all Move Go somewhere go out in the country Just relax go where it's quiet.
I'd like to
Look out of my window and see deer pheasants birds Chickadees foxes kangaroos Wallabies I'd like to look out of my window and see ducks
a duck build platypus I want to just I want to retire in the nature I want to have a four-wheeler and I want to have like fishing ponds on my land and sometimes I just want to get up early in the morning and I want to make some coffee and I'll get out on my four-wheeler and there's and there's dew and a little rolling fall and I'll ride my four-wheeler
Breathe in that cool, crisp country air.
And just look at my land with a sense of pride.
And then you let out one of those belly laughs, even though nothing is funny, kind of like Bailey Coleman.
That's what I want out there in the country where you can have 50 acres of land and your property taxes are $9 and 37 cents.
And it's just you're just in and you look up at night and you see the stars And then you look and you see bald eagles Hairy eagles All the golden eagles That's what I want
Because you know you don't want to cut
that grass.
Don't let the grass grow, it's
nature.
Okay, okay.
Now, I have been saying this for a long time, that y'all are going to let them ruin our city.
Water Street talking about closest.
Y'all are allowing good people to mean
And they want to keep the bad people.
It's easier to run them out of the city.
That's
not easy.
Good people
can
they going?
They can't.
They will go if you make it uncomfortable for them.
Right now, they are very comfortable here.
They can do anything they want with no consequence.
start using the law as a consequence.
The
It's not about breaking it.
It's not about breaking
it.
The only thing we can do is either we move away or do we kill them?
We just got to kill them.
We got to kill
them.
No, no.
You can get them out of here.
Where are they going?
You can't kill them.
OK, that's a question.
It doesn't matter.
Do you care where they're going or do you want your city better?
go to another city.
Let it
go to another city.
What city are you going to take them?
It doesn't matter.
Do you think the people,
it does not.
This
of our solution is,
are spending money to keep the problem.
If you would stop spending money to keep the problem.
What is trying to keep the problem?
Let the problem go.
I'm just saying.
If you made it where it was very uncomfortable here, no more allowing you to drive with no tabs.
Every
Before you get all deep into stuff that doesn't make any sense to anybody but you, what we are seeing is the result of things being uncomfortable for them, and this is what the reaction is.
Things are uncomfortable for them, and this is how they're responding to it.
So anything that we can pack up people and just move them somewhere, you can't do that.
Because you also can't tell
me
think you could pack them up.
I can tell you how.
If you stop making it comfortable,
will have changed.
When somebody
about for action.
We're talking about getting rid of people, not for action.
We already know what they're doing.
So if you make it where the first thing is there are
We're
That's what I'm not gonna entertain this foolishness Dude is collecting ten million dollars or ten in ten million a month in rain.
He's gonna close down Then you're gonna have a homelessness problem and also okay.
Let's humor her for a second with the most ridiculous thing.
This is embarrassing
Spending a billion dollars and it's the best we can come up with.
Well, just get rid of them.
Okay, get rid of them more coming More are
gonna come More being born Get rid of them.
What do you want a Holocaust?
The National Institute for Criminal Justice Reform calculated the government cost of a single Milwaukee fatal shooting
at $2,050,000.
A non-fatal shooting costs $644,491.
The components are remarkably concrete.
Crime scene, police and EMT for a fatal shooting that costs, for every shooting now, $7,955.
For a non-fatal shooting it costs $4,919.
Hospitals slash medical for a fatal shooting, $88,525.
For a non-fatal shooting,
more expensive because the person is still alive.
$144,617.
The criminal justice for a fatal shooting, so lawyers, judges, prosecutors, investigating the case, $55,962 per fatal shooting for non-fatal shooting, $8,570.
Incarceration for fatal shooting, $1.73 million.
Incarceration for non-fatal shooting,
$416,000.
Victim and social services per fatal shooting, $75,329 for non-fatal shooting for victim and social services, $57,028.
Lost tax revenue for fatal shooting, $88,352.
Lost tax revenue for non-fatal shooting, $12,369 total per every non-fatal shooting in the city of Milwaukee.
$644,491 per non-fatal shooting.
That's
so many getting shot in
Fatal shootings?
$2,054,000.
Police response is not the largest expense.
Incarceration is for a fatal shooting.
Incarceration represents $1,740,000 of the $2,054,000 for a fatal shooting in government costs.
Milwaukee's total annual bill, roughly $744,500,000 from shootings alone.
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We're gonna talk to Al and Sam.
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I am providing information on why I believe people moved away because the violence infrastructure, the violence industrial complex in the city of Milwaukee.
It's about three quarters of a billion dollars, and I don't believe that it is sufficiently preventing, but maybe it is properly managing the epidemic of violence.
And when you are spending that kind of money on a problem that is not at all diminishing, you're better off moving somewhere else where less money is spent on a violence prevention ecosystem.
Let's talk to a patient waiting.
Sam.
Hi, Sam.
How are you?
You're on one on one, seven The Truth.
I'm doing all
Okay, first I want to agree with little sign About getting them out of here Because I believe that penalties for certain firms are soft Go back to the keyboard era those kids will get caught And they'll be on house arrest And then go back out water on house arrest and steal more cars
How about just sitting straight to jail?
We can't.
But why we can't?
Because black people get very angry when we come to find out a lot of black people are in jail because then we call the whole criminal justice system racist.
And so they're much more likely to have, you know, extended supervision and have house arrest.
Here's the other thing.
Right now with the current prisons we have in the state of Wisconsin, they're designed to hold 17,000 inmates.
Sam, you know how many inmates we got in those prisons?
23,000 we are 133% over capacity, which is unconstitutional.
So even if we lock them up and send more of them away, number one, they're going to get out eventually.
And when they get out, now they're coming back to the community with a criminal record, they ain't going to get a job.
We don't have the prisons to hold the people there probably should be there.
So we got to build more prisons, which we can do, but there's a whole bunch of other investments and resources that we're not going to get because we got to spend our money on building more prisons.
So they'll oblige you if you want to build more prisons.
Oh, I absolutely know the Republicans and Democrats will take some of your tax money right out of your wallet and build more prisons, but your roads ain't gonna get paved.
Garbage might not get picked up in your snow ain't gonna get plowed, but at least we'll have some prisons.
I'd rather have prisons than my garbage picked up.
They gotta go.
These kids gotta go.
Another option I know we can't do, but that's just kill them.
Get rid of them.
Yeah.
Sorry.
to me.
Especially if they don't care.
If they don't care about life and what they doing, then why keep on the rent?
And that's it.
Thanks, Sam.
Glad he said that because the attitude and Sam, right, we would call him like, I'm tired of this.
Sam is an upstanding citizen.
He was like, oh, we'll kill him.
That's exactly what people are doing on the street right now.
So Sam, I'm glad he said that.
Because he represents that same attitude That exists on the street That's costing us a billion dollars a year because whenever people say oh, we got to get rid of them the people on the street right now that are doing all the violence They're doing they're doing that for us aren't they?
They're getting rid of them and how is that working out?
We make it seem like oh, this is a problem that we'll just get rid of them and then they won't be here anymore.
You know, there's more every day
It's like, oh, let's graduate this class from MPS.
Then there won't be any more seniors.
Let's just graduate them.
And then we're done graduating.
There's another graduating class that are juniors.
There's another class.
They're sophomores.
They're going to be graduating too.
So even if you quote unquote, get rid of them, there's more that are coming.
It's not like, oh, let's just get rid of them.
And then we'll all be safe.
I think the public.
I'm starting to see that we need to be better educated on this ecosystem because if our attitude is the same as theirs, oh, we'll just get rid of them.
Like you can just get rid of people.
Let's talk to someone who very well may have the solution.
Hi, Al.
How are you doing today?
I'm doing
wonderful.
Two years of things.
And this is what I have noticed.
You got to cut back on affectionate.
the low income and the disability because, you know, a lot of these houses is dysfunctional.
And I noticed where it's a lot of drama, a lot of these people live with these people because they don't work.
So you're going to have to limit that.
A lot of y'all see the get upset.
They already gentrified the inner city of Milwaukee.
I mean, it's a house for $200,000 on 11th and Keith in 53206.
So they are already pricing y'all out.
You know, so I say cut back on the government assistance.
A lot of times when you have a lot of government assistance, you have a lot of chaos because don't nobody work.
And a person who work have a different standard for people who don't work.
You got to cut back on that.
Another thing you got to cut back on is the slum landlords.
Because the slum landlords rent to the people who got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten evictions.
And then they rent to anything.
They just collect in the rent.
When you look at other areas where they don't have all that, you don't have some landlords.
You don't have a lot of section eight.
You don't have this thing of where they're going to go.
They don't care where you go.
They push you out like they do black people.
So that's why it's always concentrated here.
Another thing is, and I'm not going to even throw the politicians in it, because a lot of them know what's going on in the community, but they only move when the white people come along.
And that's why you got the white people that's moving on the north side, but they only come out at night time.
And they're buying your houses up dirt cheap.
And then they're taking the problem houses and asking $200,000 to $250,000 that people are paying with no garage.
But you're going to have to push the people out.
I'm not going to say they need to die, because if they burning up all the spoons and all the steel oil and you can't clean your pots and pans, they're going to kill themselves anyway from bad dope to no dope.
That's why their eyes is big is cash issues.
I say pull back on the government assistance and you will start seeing a change.
You can't save everybody.
What do you look like trying to save somebody who don't want to save themselves?
You let them go.
That's all you can do.
Everybody is smart, bright and intelligent and nobody is dumb as to set some nuts.
But if you don't want to save yourself.
Can't you gotta let them go, but you gotta cut back on the section eight a redness distance the disability and the slum landlords because you're slum left You know you got some politicians that slumber landlords too.
Oh, yeah You know you got a lot of these wealthy white people who own these houses in the inner city and you got to get on your building inspectors, too
because a lot of them from landlords is random house sounds when they could be condemned.
Now, I know y'all going to cut me out, but I'm all for it.
I'll hang up and listen.
Bye bye.
Thanks.
I appreciate your
If you to humor him for a moment, cut off the government assistance and you get rid of section eight.
Now you have a homelessness problem.
So add a zero onto everything that I just said.
By eliminating government assistance and programs We are adding to the problem what government assistance can do and of course it gets exploited and taken advantage of it you can get to a point of Diminishing returns because you have people that live and survive solely on government assistance Which keeps them and us as taxpayers on the hook until they die till one of us dies But I don't think that that would
It's not necessarily a problem to be ultimately solved It's one to be managed and hopefully over time reduced and all this technology that we have we still have not figured out a Better way to manage and reduce the violent incidents even though it's costing us a billion dollars that we don't even have in this city But what seems to be a very popular opinion is well, we'll just get rid of them
Here's how that actually work.
We don't get rid of them.
We have to move and let them stay you understand it They're not going anywhere they can't They can't go anywhere.
They can't pack up and move.
They're not going to German town.
I'm not going to Oak Creek I'm not moving a door County
They're fixed.
They've been here for generations.
Their grandmoms was poor, their grandfathers was poor, and the culture that they live in is transmitted from mother to child, from father to son.
They're here, okay?
We have the ability to leave, and that's exactly what people are doing.
So it's interesting.
I hear people saying, oh, we got to get rid of them.
No, no, no.
They're going to stay.
We are the ones that are leaving.
Let's talk to.
Jordan you're on one-on-one seven the truth.
How are you?
I'm doing well sir.
I'm
I Just wanna I gotta say it man.
It's a lot of black folks.
They sound like they sound like them.
They sound like the white boys just kill them Like anything I don't understand it.
I think the problem is honestly beyond us.
It's a It's a two three four five generation deep
Problem that's embedded.
It's it's rooted.
It's got a tuxing.
It's staying, you know, we can move.
Yeah, but that just leaves the problem somewhere else But then you ain't gotta worry about how do you how do you heal the people though, man?
Honestly on the real yeah, we can move and that and that works for you and for me But honestly, do you do you have
not I want to know
because I don't even know the people that need to be healed brother Don't even know they're sick because they live in a world and surrounded by a culture
That's normalized all of this.
In fact, we're the sick ones But also I want to take issue with something you said because I get it you said the people sound like the white folks kill them No, that's they sound like black people because black people
are
but what you're
amongst people that are
people
do
or if we
promise you, we have
we've
social services.
We've tried
It's about your own personal happiness, finding your bliss.
I really, I really, really dug the, you know, I ain't no radio calling person.
I'm a.
I'm a I'm a young you know me whatever whatever I might be a Y in myself.
I really
really dug the Country air The fun that you just want to find your personal piece your little piece of happiness, so that's all we need if they understood that There was more You know what I mean then then what what they see out of their friend
a lot of
my my lot of my niggas my peers my friends
died I'm almost ten years removed you know without my my friends who didn't grow up to be young men on on earth you know me and I realized like there's when you don't like you said what you don't know you don't know you know ignorant to live some shit it's just it's sad man but yeah thank you for calling
man I can dig it man have a good one all right
How about we just teach them how to read and use logic?
Well, with the curriculum that I learned about UPS, I mean, NPS has, it's pretty hard.
They're actually bringing books back to school.
Are they gonna still be reading off a laptop?
I don't know all them details, but they are they did say When I was reading press releases about the beginning of the school year There was a whole bunch of bullet points about new things.
They're gonna try and different strategies and different avenues They're going to explore and to that I say good because at the root of all of this is a lack
academic success at the root of all of this are a lot of people that cannot read on great level the world becomes a really big scary place if you cannot read decipher and interpret the fine print that surrounds us Milwaukee's annual bill roughly 744 million five hundred thousand dollars from shootings
The Milwaukee County Community Health Needs Assessment applied those cost estimates to Milwaukee's 2024 firearm violence volume and calculated.
Fatal shootings every year cost $332,700,000 non-fatal shootings cost $411,800,000 combined approximately.
seven hundred forty four million five hundred thousand dollars that is roughly two point zero four million dollars every twenty four hours
that can't be right
that is two point it is right that is two million forty thousand dollars every twenty four hours we're spending on shootings or roughly
$85,000 per hour, 24 hours a day.
And Milwaukee continued to experience very substantial violence in 2025.
Milwaukee Police Department reported 142 homicides and 515 non-fatal shooting victims.
Although homicide and fatal shooting figures are not interchangeable because not every homicide involves a firearm.
Non-fatal shootings were down.
from six hundred thirty nine in twenty twenty four and a seven hundred forty four million dollars probably understates the real economic damage the NICJR calculation includes very important direct costs but cannot comprehensively price several enormous indirect financial effects property values
Violence produces a wealth effect that is particularly consequential for homeowners.
Urban Institute research across multiple cities found that neighborhoods experiencing gun violence surges saw home appreciation approximately 4 percentage points lower and also experienced falling and failing homeownership rates and credit scores.
Then you got to move.
You didn't pay all this money for this house and all this down payment And all this mortgage to have the value of your property go down because we can't spend enough money to stop students You got to move somewhere to where your property values are gonna go up Like a man on Viagra But consider the mechanism
I was waiting on that.
A house that might have appreciated from $150,000 to $165,000 instead appreciates to $159,000.
That's roughly $6,000 of household wealth that does not materialize.
Repeat that across thousands of properties in neighborhoods persistently identified with violent crime and the suppressed household wealth in the city of Milwaukee is, Jesus Christ, tens of millions of dollars.
It also eventually matters to municipal finances because weaker assessments can mean a weaker property tax base.
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So there's no...
There's no solution and I think that's what people are listening for because I tell Folks all of this these details and these facts.
I'm just telling you what it is.
It's not okay.
So now what do we do?
We're doing it.
We're doing it We're spending all of the money we have.
There's not a nonprofit that is not addressing a need that arises and the need is so big that more nonprofits are Springing up.
It's an entire industry.
It is a violence
industrial complex that every year we are spending three times Milwaukee bucks revenue.
So stop saying that we're investing in spending all of our money downtown.
No, we're not.
We're spending them on fatal shootings.
That's where the money is going.
Downtown could never.
They could never get this much money in investment.
We are investing more in something that.
Really is not improving.
But that's where the money is going.
That's why we can't have nice things.
And if you stay, your property values are going to go down.
And if you stay, the tax revenue that the city is collecting goes down, down, down, down.
If you stay, expect property tax increases to make up for the reduction in property values.
So instead of us saying oh, they need to leave.
Oh, they can't This is their city.
They're running it They are part of a billion dollar financial ecosystem.
They're not going Anywhere and if we had the ability it's a quote-unquote move them or get rid of them We would now some are going to jail in prisons, but that's not working either Because our jails and our prisons are overcrowded.
Let me let me separate to our prisons are overcrowded
In California in 2012, the U.S.
Supreme Court ruled that California's overpopulation of their prisons violated the Cruel and Unusual Punishment Clause of the U.S.
Constitution.
California immediately had to start releasing inmates because they just couldn't keep up with the number of people that were going to prison.
And they were better than, I think they were 120, 125% of capacity in California.
We're 133% of capacity here in the state of Wisconsin.
So if some prison worker, prison guard, or some inmate says the conditions in XYZ prison are so bad and so overcrowded, it is a threat to our lives, which it actually is, and they're Supreme Court precedent.
So while some of you may want more of them locked up for longer, more of them are going to get released early and coming right back home.
unless you're okay with building 10 or 15 more prisons to the tune of several billion dollars.
Now, Tom Tiffany will oblige you in an absolute second.
In fact, he is waiting for black folks to say we need to build more prisons to lock up more black people.
He is chomping at the bit, but not right away because you know he was in a bit of an accident.
Tom Tiffany was in a plane.
And it went in the water and he got a cut Yeah, he's fine.
Everybody relax.
He's back on the campaign trail He got 12 stitches and the pilot got four stitches.
That's 16 stitches between four people.
That's two people Not that many people 16 stitches two people that has a total of How many stitches is that 12 plus 6 plus what is how many stitches he
got?
No bruises?
So you're getting a plane crash, no bruises, just a cut.
Can he swim?
to
he got a
window before they got submerged
well that's why he had to cut his head he
He did he you know did a headbutt And then he broke the window and then you're making
Yeah, he uses head he headbutted out the window and they're both the him in the Pilot you know swam to safety
hang on US Rep Tom Tiffany a candidate for Wisconsin governor wiped away tears and laugh while sharing how thankful he was on Sunday to survive a harrowing late-night emergency landing
Into a lake of the small plane in which he was riding in the pilot said quote We're going down Tiffany and Republican told reporters at a downtown Warsaw firehouse Pull your seat belt tight.
I gave it a yank and pulled a good and tight.
It was probably 10 seconds later.
We hit the wire Tiffany said he and the pilot Leonard bolts Remained on top of the plane in Lake Warsaw until it began sinking
Before deciding to try and swim ashore.
He said they swim about 100 to 150 feet until they reach water shallow enough to stand in so Do they have a truck?
Do you smell the exhaust in here?
No, I know the hearse is here a
you
Oh,
didn't
I swear, you know, Zach's going to that funeral for the DJ
I don't I don't smell.
Oh,
You don't smell that.
That's pure carbon monoxide.
What they do is they load the food trucks.
You're not smell that Didn't get your ass out of here.
I smell it I tell it smells like a Diesel exhaust pipe is coming right they've done this before we had to tell them because they idle the trucks while they unload it and the exhaust fumes come in the studio And there's no windows in here.
So I'm we go to break out go outside.
Oh, no, we're gonna go to break right now And I'm gonna go out I'm about to cuss them out.
Okay over here losing feeling in my feet
I'm tired of passing out on air.
And we got people calling.
Okay, callers, you hang on.
Let me go save my life real quick.
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Everything gonna be alright this morning.
Oh, yeah.
Woo!
You've got a new government.
It's called Trumpism.
A lot of people are frustrated, right?
Donald Trump promised to come and clean it up get the immigrants out of here You're rid of all the DEI and all the affirmative action.
Oh, you have a new government.
This is what your new government looks like New don't always mean better ladies and gentlemen.
Let's talk to Let's try Sandra you're on one on one seven the truth.
How are you?
I'm just fine.
How are you today?
I'm doing good.
What's on your
mind?
And then the money gets snipped out of the city and our city all run down and all the distance.
But what if we go back to the era where we were doing real well, where the jobs were here, you would find a job anywhere.
Because like I said, I'm of an age, so I could apply anywhere for a job.
But we still had to fight the racism because we had to have like urban needs and all that stuff to help us get jobs equally, at least fairly.
But what if we go back?
to that part to build us to let the people know especially young kids how we got built up to a good point and how it got slotted because that's when all the demolish started up the city.
You know you started getting boarded up houses, raggedy streets.
They built this first way to take the white people out and then they had the buses they could take in the city and get the job.
And so there's a lot going on to make sure we never got a head because if we got a head, we probably would have been closer.
And then they would probably burn to death or build up with water to get rid of us.
But I think it's really sad that we as black people, first thing we say is lock them up and kill them.
Or, you know, the students, they need to be locked up.
You know, you got a president killing up a whole America.
I've never heard nobody say that.
You got white people shooting each other.
They don't say thoughts and prayers no more.
They give the gun people, they've even given them more relaxed rules that anybody, a baby, five-year-old could have a rifle.
Come on.
You know, there's so much garbage that's going on, and black people, whenever they see like Tom Tiffany, oh, we're going through the crime, he needs black faith.
So tell the people, he and y'all, don't think because I'm educated, I'm listening to that, they're going after your education.
They went after government employees, we are educated.
They're going after the medical field where they're cutting out, where you can't even get your treatment.
You can't decide the stuff to go in.
There's a whole lot of political mess.
And the biggest criminals are your political mess, especially up there in Washington, DC, where traffic is this positive.
You need to talk about them and get behind closed doors and get a strategy.
OK, Sherman, that's what I have to say.
OK, bye-bye.
Bye.
Bye-bye.
I Like that one too We're always very nostalgic about the past.
You know, it wasn't this violin in the six days All right, let's go back then Let's go back to Milwaukee making and manufacturing everything.
Let's go back to a whole bunch of breweries.
Let's go back to assembly lines Going back to manufacturing plane.
You think that's ever gonna come back today is Monday
You think you can make today Monday yesterday, which was Sunday?
You cannot all you can do is hope and wait for this upcoming Sunday.
We can never go back Nostalgia only exists in history books and in our minds We can't go back That's and I don't want to diminish people that because I wax nostalgic to our members some time ago when things were I don't know better or our memories tend to
water down all of the negative.
I remember the 90s, 90s was a great decade.
People were getting murdered in the 90s too.
But all of a sudden I only remember the fun.
Like oh I wish we could go back to all the nightlife we had in the 90s.
There was a lot of murder going on back then too.
Like a lot of murder.
Routinely 140, 150, 160 homicides between like the end of the 1980s and the middle of the 1990s.
We were averaging triple digit homicides every single year in the city of Milwaukee.
Yet that's the time in which I whack nostalgia.
Oh, we should go back.
No, we can't.
We don't want to go back to that either.
Let's talk to Al from Sherman Park.
You're on one on one seven.
The truth.
How are you?
I'm doing well.
How about yourself
doing good?
What's on your mind?
Well, first I was going to talk about the plane crash, but then I did want to mention about the prisons.
Why don't we just lock up the violent people and put the less violent people like.
Thieves house arrest or 100% we 100% contracting to send them out of state to like Texas
very expensive.
But yeah, we're doing that too.
Well, but you don't want to come those back around you robbing your house robbing and killing you.
They're gonna get out.
Why do we
Well, I've known some felons.
They have turned their lives around and then there's some felons that do stupid stuff and go back.
they'll turn their
Well, anyway, prison doesn't
makes them better
Well, then that goes back to that.
Philosophy eliminate them.
You know what they do in Muslim countries.
I'm just saying we're nicer to them than the Muslim countries are
We are some of the most I'm thoroughly convinced why we have so many homicides because at every level of black person Murder is an option They're killing each other on the streets, but then when I'm talking to y'all today Well, we got to get rid of them like you're the third or fourth person today.
So well, we got to get rid of them
Sometimes get rid of
them means
Not going to put them in concentration camps.
But then the other part of get rid of them is kill them.
So I see why they are murdering because they are literally doing and executing what we are talking about on Black Talk radio.
So I totally get it.
And at the
same time,
Well, people come up with the excuse there's nothing we can do with them.
And then the last resort would be a limiting.
Exactly.
That's what's happening on the street.
We, and I'm saying the big we, are not different than them because we want murder as a tool too.
They want to get rid of people that they have beefs with.
We have a beef with them because they're ruining our city.
They're making our property values go down.
They're using up all the police resources.
And so what's our solution?
Well, we got to kill them.
We got to get rid of them.
So we're not different than them.
Because they're not going to reform but anyway exactly the plane I worked in travel And there's one thing I will never do is get on somebody's private little put put plane because when those planes run out of power Some people have a false impression that planes glide they glide like a rock Now when I worked in travel the large jets because we work with US scare US scare has so many crashes.
I'd never get on their planes voluntarily
But yeah, I don't know why Tom Tiffany would insist on flying around getting that car and drive around I bet he won't get another one of those little putt putt planes
I bet he will all
All right, bye
teach them to read and give them
Lost businesses and jobs, economic damage goes beyond homeowners.
The Urban Institute research found that reductions in gun violence were associated with more new businesses, more jobs, greater retail activity, fewer business closings, and stronger neighborhood property appreciation.
In Washington, researchers found that 10 fewer gunfire incidents in a single census tract
were associated with one additional business opening.
20 additional jobs in new businesses and $1.3 million in additional sales at a new business.
If there's 10 fewer gunfire incidents, that's what you get.
$1.3 million poured into the optimism and hope bucket.
Those numbers should not be directly transplanted onto Milwaukee, but they do illustrate that there is a mechanism.
Violence therefore produces an expense that never appears under a government budget line.
Businesses that never opened, jobs that were never created, houses that never appreciated, and families that chose another neighborhood.
Lost wages.
Violence removes people from the productivity economy in several directions simultaneously.
A shooting victim may lose weeks, months, or years of work.
A disabled victim may permanently leave the labor force and collect disability until the day of their death.
A homicide victim loses decades of potential earnings and tax revenue.
An incarcerated offender also leaves the labor force.
Family members often miss work caring for victims or attending court proceedings and funerals.
And taxpayers lose income pay.
payroll, sales and other tax revenue.
The NICJR therefore attributes $88,352 and lost tax revenue alone to an average fatal Milwaukee shooting and another $12,369 for a non fatal shooting.
I've got 123 people on hold.
Why don't we take Marlin?
You're on one on one seven.
The truth.
How are you?
Good yourself doing good.
Good, I think part of issue that we're having here is lack of empathy for people.
Um, we cannot tell people, you know, because you're poor, then we're going to just kill you or get rid of you because we're listening.
Then we're just we're just.
uh, condemning people because they're poor, we're condemning poverty.
And that's not a good thing for our country either.
You know, and then the other people talk about, well, let's go back.
Like you just said is we can't go back because manufacturing ain't here like it used to be.
But you know, all the other industry that was here a long time ago is not here no more.
So you can't go back.
We can't go.
It would be nice to have had a place for people to work, but a lot of places.
People don't work because like you say education or lack of reading or whatever situation may be so we can't have that.
And just sending people to jail or prison is one that is not smart.
We there is a way we could do bring people nonviolent felons and do stuff for them because we spent like a $100,000 per person every year that they're present.
So we took that money and invested it.
We, we will probably save a lot more money less, but, uh, but running prisons is big business because if you know all the prisons are on these little, little small towns that spark industry in those towns.
So, you know, we got a lot of issues, but yeah.
Thank you sir.
All right.
When somebody gets shot, taxpayers do not merely pay for an ambulance and two police cars.
A single shooting can activate.
Are you ready for this?
911 dispatch, police patrol, fire slash EMS, emergency room, trauma surgery, detectives, forensic services, medical examiners, prosecutors, public defenders, courts, pretrial detention, trial, incarceration, probation, parole, victim compensation, counseling, and reentry services.
For some cases, government remains financially involved for decades.
That's why the $2 million price attached to a single homicide is plausible.
Even when, even though, rather, the visible response on the night of the shooting may cost only a few thousand dollars.
The larger Milwaukee number, if we combine the findings conceptually, not arithmetic-wise, because there is some overlap, a reasonable picture emerges.
Anti-violence slash reentry slash victim services infrastructures, $175 million a year.
Direct government economic burden of shooting $744 million is the recent Milwaukee estimate.
Property value suppression, diminished investment, lost business activity, uncompensated household costs, trauma and lifetime productivity losses are not even fully captured.
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That was my last segment.
We'll take a couple phone calls on the other side.
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I'm fine.
Thank you.
I want to touch on three things right quick.
One of your callers earlier said that, you know, they need to get rid of slum lords, rent assistance section eight.
I just want to be clear.
They have all those things in every county, every city, every state that does not negate the violence and all the other things that happen in Milwaukee.
The second thing is one of your callers said, I think he said he was.
a former, excuse me, white in and he said, you know, you just have to find your blissful piece and your little pocket of happiness.
But at the same time, how do you do that when you have crime all around you?
When you have people stealing cars, running on lights, high-speed chases, killing people.
And then the third thing I think I want to say is you caught the people who said that they should just kill them.
you know, you said they're on the killing train.
I think that what they're saying is there's no accountability.
At what point are people going to be held accountable?
Nothing is getting done.
It's just like a revolving door.
So there's no accountability.
So people are continually doing more crimes and nothing's going to change.
And then one more thing I want to add, you said, move away.
And I get that because I've done that.
However, what about the people who can't move away?
What if you're older and you've built your life and you have your church and you have this and that?
You know, that's not a solution either.
I get what you're saying.
I get what you're coming from.
However, that's not a solution.
So my whole point and I want to end on this is there's just no accountability down to the DA.
You know, the court system, they don't hold people accountable.
There's no accountability.
So I understand where people are saying, just kill them.
And I don't think they physically mean I'm going to take a gun and kill them.
But you have all these programs and all these nonprofits as you just stated yourself that are popping up, but nothing is being done because it starts at the mind.
People want to keep making excuses and, you know, education is that people know right from wrong, period.
And that's it.
You know, so at a certain point we have to make.
these young people, people, whoever accountable.
So that's all I wanted to say.
How are you doing today?
mind?
Well, in some cases, I'm I'm I'm with Militia.
In some cases, you might have to kill a couple of them.
I've been in prison before, so I'm talking from experience.
It's a couple of things that you have said that you said that prison doesn't work.
Actually, prison does work.
It's just that sometimes people just don't want to change because sometimes the excuse is better than the change.
You'll notice that people that have gotten out of prison is doing better than people that has never been to prison.
People that have gotten changed, they lie, they get up and do some things.
And it's a crazy thing that when I was in prison, I've seen it with my own eyes.
This is not something I'm saying from the sidelines.
A person to buy a long clock in jail to get up and go work in the kitchen for 40 cents an hour.
And I heard this with my own ears that say, I mean, on the streets, make it crazy.
I ain't gonna be working for no $7.25 an hour.
I've seen this and I heard this.
It's a crazy thing that you will never see dirt, but you'll never see a dust ball in the prison cell.
Never.
You just don't see it.
You see people are unloading trucks.
You see them in their washing dishes.
You see them washing clothes.
You see them cutting grass, cutting trees, fixing cars, fixing the building up, doing work.
They do all of that stuff.
Now, when I say 40 cents an hour, that's the highest that you're going to pay.
It might be less than that.
But when they get out, they don't want to do that out here for those $7.25 an hour.
So the accountability needs to be this.
You either do this or you get that.
And here's another thing, and they sound extreme, but for people that don't want to change, once you've built an apartment building over here in the city, they'll say, you can live here.
You can do whatever you want.
You can throw your trash out the window.
You can shoot and kill each other.
You can do whatever, because this is where you want to live at.
It may sound extreme, but sometimes that's what we may have to do.
I've been there before.
I shot three people.
That's why I went to jail.
And in my involvement, I should have never got out.
That's what I did.
And the reason why I say this is because I should have left it alone.
I should have talked myself in the prison.
I should have left it alone.
And don't think.
Since I got out of prison that I'm not mad or I don't get upset, it's been a couple of people I want to slap their life out of their ass.
But I have to have some self-control.
Just like when you see people shoot on the streets when they got these so-called anger issues or irritation issues along with this issue, then you know all of a sudden you know how to control yourself.
You don't hear about them slapping on their guards, beating up other inmates.
They don't have no riots, ain't no sexual assault.
They don't do none of that up in here.
No robbing, no stealing, no spending the block.
No crash now, none of that.
That's
Sounds like he needs to be put down.
Like when he tells his story.
He's got companies and landscaping businesses.
He employs people like he is one of the examples because earlier I said, okay, prison doesn't work because we have a recidivism problem.
He is one of the examples of prison working.
Also, there's other examples, but I think by and large, a certain kind of person is able to get rehabilitated easier than others.
One of the things that I do, but I am very strict and specific, is I write letters on behalf of people that are seeking pardons.
And I am happy to say that every time I've written a letter on behalf of someone seeking a pardon, they have gotten a full and unconditional.
But I don't do them for everybody.
But there are some people that...
that exhibit the qualities and the traits that we want them to have and they realize their full potential once they've served some time in confinement because maybe they're getting structure, maybe they're getting discipline, maybe they're having exposure to educational materials and they're getting their GED and they're getting their associates degree, things that we wish that they could have taken advantage of while they were out here, but maybe they were surrounded by or distracted by or in a family situation that did not allow for that.
But a question I would ask to just normal average everyday regular people.
What would you do if you had to feed your family and had no money?
No, no, no.
Answer me the question.
You can't go to a bank and get a loan.
You can't borrow no money from your family members.
You have no credit cards.
You have no bank account.
What are you going to do?
Your rent is due.
Your electricity is about to get shut off.
You got to feed three hungry babies.
You need brakes, tires, and gas for the car.
What are you going to do?
No, no, no.
Tell me what you're going to do.
And sitting and waiting is not an option.
And the check that you get, not enough.
You need breaks, you need tires, you need gas for the car, you gotta feed these kids, you gotta pay the rent, you gotta pay your bills.
You don't got no credit cards, you can't go to a bank, and you can't ask any family members for money.
Once you answer that question, I think you'll have a better understanding.
Because here's the thing, you're gonna feed your kids.
Oh, you go and eat, you know what I mean?
But at whose expense?
Then when they do that when someone's back is against the wall because they're gonna feed their kids They're gonna eat.
Oh, they gonna get gas for the car and then when they Do what they have to do To feed them kids to pay them bills pay that rent pay that we energies bill will incarcerate them for that But I would ask you the same question.
No, no, no, maybe we're gonna talk about that tomorrow
What would you do and stop saying?
Well, I have money saved, not in this scenario.
You have nothing.
You're negative $40 in your bank account.
And you got immediate needs right now.
What are you going to do?
How are you going to get that money?
I'm not going to answer it today, but maybe they'll answer it on the lunch break, which is up next.
I'll see y'all next time.
From the Associated Press, U.S.
Representative Tom Tiffany, a candidate for Wisconsin governor, wiped away tears and laughs while sharing how thankful he was on Sunday to survive a harrowing late-night emergency landing into a lake of the small plain he was riding in.
The pilot said, we're going down!
Tiffany a Republican told reporters at a downtown Wausau firehouse Pull your seat belt tight.
I gave it a yank and pulled it good and tight It was probably about 10 seconds later.
We hit the water Oh and to make this even more mysterious It happened at night.
It was at nine o'clock at night.
I mean, it's got to be very scary To go down and
You crashed a plane or water landing now also know the water landings when done properly Can be exceptionally safe.
I shouldn't say safe.
They're always dangerous, but they have a very high survival rate It's just very suspicious and I have to question everything anyone Affiliated with this Republican Party does everything that they do
is between a lie and nefarious.
It is below board.
It is disrespectful.
It is deceptive.
They are lying directly to the American people.
And now I'm starting to understand like a deeper psychology of some Americans.
If someone believes that they're going to get a check from the Trump administration because of all the money,
That we found all of the redundant spending with doge if you believe that check is coming if you believe that you're going to get a
a tariff refund or all the money that we collected in tariffs.
If you believe that that is happening, if you believe that if the Republicans win majorities in these midterm elections or they maintain their majorities, that Donald Trump is going to give you a $5,000 check.
And there are people that actually believe that and other policies.
While he is telling you that it's a Democrat hoax that you can't afford your gas and that you can't afford your groceries, talking
about a man who campaigned on no more wars, no more Middle Eastern wars.
Joe Biden, you botched the leaving of the war in the Middle East.
You messed it up.
There's going to be no more wars.
And then puts us right back into a forever war.
And I look at the people that we share this country with.
And if you believe that, if you were still with him and if you were still casting your vote for that, I look at you differently.
And it's your fault that I look at you differently.
Now I believe that I could sell you anything.
I could make you believe anything.
And then when I add that into, because I have no sympathy for these people, because I know how they talk about us, they think that we are their problem, that black people are their problem, that immigrants are their problem, that minorities are their problem, that minorities getting scholarships is their problem, that DEI and that diversity and affirmative action is their problem.
No, they are their problem.
And if you are that stupid to still put your faith in him and in them, I look at you differently.
Now I'm trying to think, well, what can I sell you?
Because I can't let you be that dumb and still have money in your pocket.
I need I need your money because it's better off in my pocket because you're too dumb.
You're dumb.
And I'm I'm giving you like not even a tenth of a percent.
How bad Donald Trump has screwed these people over but he has done this incredible thing and he's had a lot of help He's had help from conservative media.
He's had help from members of Congress who are essentially neutered He had help Instead of the people that are harmed by him Blaming him they blame us That is fascinating, but it also goes to show you can get people
To believe anything if you meet them in their ignorance and just you let them believe that they are correct in all of their Assertions and all of their assumptions and you don't challenge them You don't actually explain to them how Donald Trump is Literally milking the American people Donald Trump has made more money in these last two years of this term that all of the US presidents combined I need you to think about that and we're just sitting here just
Paying too much money for everything inflation is out of control can't get a damn mortgage to save your life mortgage rates 30 year fix has been above 6% Economy is failing Yeah, people are Not sure if they're gonna vote for David Crowley.
Let's this is a tough one So when you are in a situation like the Republicans find themselves in
All indicators point to heavy Democratic majorities, not just in the House, but maybe even in the Senate.
And the Senate wasn't even supposed to be in play.
There is no way that James Tallarico should even be within the margin of error for a U.S.
Senate race in the state of Texas.
If Texas could, they would bring slavery back yesterday.
Texas is going to become, follow me on this.
What Georgia became.
in 2020.
Georgia has two Democratic senators.
Georgia is the heart of the Bible Belt.
Georgia is Marjorie Taylor Green territory.
Not only does Georgia have two Democratic senators, you have a Black pastor and a Jew.
That's too liberal even for me.
I'm like, one of y'all gonna have to drop out.
That's too left.
Black not only a black pastor Raphael Warnock is the preacher at Ebenezer Baptist Church.
That's dr. King's that was dr. King's church where he did all of the preaching and the dr. King they killed him by the way Dr. King's assassination one fake They got him in the face.
Yeah, that's awful No, I'm just saying that they didn't dr. King didn't say
Maybe I should fake an attempt to get more publicity on the movement Somebody pretend to shoot me But don't actually hit me just get real close
when I tune a one-on-one seven to truth on my heavenly radio
what it is
Because the Republicans are messing this country up so bad, but it's not them.
They're an apparatus.
They're a strategy.
They're a business.
They're a grift Republicans are doing what they're supposed to do and they're following Donald Trump's lead and I say let them because both the Democrats and the Republicans Have something in common moving into this midterm election Both Donald Trump and the Democrats want to make this election about Trump
Trump wants to make the election about him and absolutely so do the Democrats, but things are just they're so bad There's going to be more desperate things they are going to do because the strategy of and you can just look this up on your own You don't have to believe anything that I say There was I think it might have been with an Erdogan or one of these foreign right dictator presidents Russia came up with an idea like a generation ago that if there is a political contest
If a particular candidate is not doing well in the contest you You create a tragedy you do an assassination attempt and it gains national sympathy that goes above whatever the partisanship is in that particular country So if you have someone that is very unpopular if they have a near-death experience or if there is a tragedy Then that nation will rally behind that person that that's KGB strategy.
There's nothing new about that.
That's old Russian
Like trying to usurp the elections of other nations like that.
There's nothing new about that.
And are you shocked that Donald Trump did something similar?
No, I'm not saying the assassination attempt was fake, but damn.
All those misses.
Just it's crazy, right?
And so that's why I got to bring up this damn Tom Tiffany thing now.
Got 12 stitches above his eye.
Wasn't even bruised.
He gave a little press conference.
Think about if you.
Crash the damn plane in the water.
You don't give a press conference that night.
I'm not talking to the media for a good long time.
Let the media like speculate, you know, he came out.
Do this back on a campaign trail today.
He was in the water.
What was it last night?
Saturday.
Last night.
I don't know when it was Saturday.
Do this out campaign today.
I take at least a couple of days off.
You know what I'm saying?
Take a break come back.
I Gave I sent you the poll a little late exam.
I haven't even looked at our YouTube yet.
You put the poll up.
I'm just curious as to what people think.
I posted some stuff on Twitter.
I know I'm gonna take some heat, but I don't care.
I don't believe it.
I ain't gotta believe it.
Believe it.
Maybe I don't know.
I just I got a lot of questions.
What was the communication from the tower?
What was wrong with the plane?
What are the maintenance records of the plane?
Where is the flight transponder?
Where's the black box?
Like, where's all that stuff?
You know what I'm saying?
If you give me that, then I'll be satisfied.
But I am here to ask those questions.
The problem is Donald Trump has so tarnished the media and called everything that we do fake that even when we do what we're supposed to do, ask probing questions because they're not supposed to outsmart us.
Politicians can't.
They're they're the tail.
We're the dog.
They can't wag us.
We've let we've let them get away with too much.
for too long.
And too many of them have gotten weak.
Too many of these CEOs of these media companies is too scared of Donald Trump.
Post the interview.
Donald Trump says, oh, I'm going to take your FCC license if you post the interview.
Post the interview, then go to court and get your license back.
They're scared of him.
Because he's trying to hog tie and hamstring the media.
And it's working because too many of y'all, you're you're
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So I checked the YouTube poll and it's just, it's a simple question because you know what?
I don't know if there's a lot of trust in government.
There's never really been a lot of trust in government.
People don't trust what our elected officials are doing.
We hear it every single day.
People always think that money is disappearing.
I believe that money is disappearing but it's not disappearing.
From the places in which you think there are far too many of us that don't understand local politics Which is relatively easy local politics is not nearly as complicated as a federal government State government is complicated to really is very complex a lot of committees a lot of subcommittees the spending is insane our Biennial budget has got to be getting close to a hundred billion dollars and every single one of those dollars is accounted for Its income taxes its property taxes.
That's more for local government
It's you know your vehicle registration fees.
Oh speaking of which I got to register my I'm I don't want to pay the 331 dollars But I have to you got to pay it because they will pull you over if your tabs are expired and I just I don't need the risk damn it But all those dollars are accounted for and that's a lot of money the state budget, but local government There's a lot less money
And I hear too many people saying oh sure when they're taking the money and they call it financial mismanagement Not really.
I just think that people don't know how it works and when they look at Conditions in the community like there's parts of Milwaukee that look like a third-world country There's whole neighborhoods that look bombed out and people actually live there.
It's so wild, but then there's places in this city that are beautiful pristine New buildings new construction is crazy
And so I can understand, I suppose, why people may think, well, all this money we're paying in taxes, why do these neighborhoods look this way?
I'm going to explain something.
I'm probably going to wait until an hour, too, because I need a whole
fresh
And this is the reason why I think that people leave the city of Milwaukee.
So it's more than just when you look out of your window and you see hopelessness and you see poverty and, of course, the crime.
Low levels of education It's it's obviously that But there's something that's driving All of that and you would wonder why some places in this city have looked the exact same for 50 years There are very few places in the city of Milwaukee that have looked the exact same for 50 years
downtown didn't look anything like this 50 years ago.
Brady Street was nothing like it is right now.
50 years ago, Brady Street was a dump.
Some would say it might be turning to back in the dump status, but I paused before I went that far.
Water Street didn't look anything like what it looks like right now.
50 years ago, but certain parts of the north side exactly the same.
It's like the land that time forgot the places that investment evaded and avoided There's an explanation the money is being drained and it's a lot of it when I tell you the dollar amount I spent time doing this research now.
I hope you're all proud of me I should submit these next couple of hours for an award kidding.
I'm not gonna get one But I think I know why people are leaving this city other than the obvious reasons
There's this, there's a hole in the bucket, dear Liza.
And as we try and fill this bucket up, think of the bucket as holding hope, opportunity, possibilities, optimism, resources, money, investment, entrepreneurship.
It is a, it is the bucket of well wishes that every good city, productive city,
Has you pour these things into this bucket and then the public in the community They pull a little bit out of the bucket if you have a city that is rich in opportunity and you have this Optimistic bucket some people are reaching out.
Let me grab a little entrepreneurship and some people reaching the bucket and say oh, let me grab Maybe some better educational opportunities.
Oh, let me let me reach in the bucket and and get a better job or a better opportunity or a promotion because cities and metro areas That is what they are designed to provide this bucket
of opportunity and you want more people to come to the city to do two things.
Pour into the bucket so that more people can take out of it and their lives can flourish.
And when the lives flourish, what do they do?
They pour back into the bucket.
There's a hole in our bucket.
As we pour into it, everything seems to be leaking out.
I have assigned a dollar amount every single year.
I even have it down to the second of how much is leaking out of our bucket.
I need a policy solution for this.
But here's the other thing about policy makers in the city of Milwaukee without me naming any names.
What I'm going to explain to you, they already know.
They have every bit of statistics and data.
In fact, they know where every dollar should be spent, how much tax revenue we get, where the best investments are to prevent or to patch up the holes in the bucket.
It's like potholes in the city of Milwaukee.
We keep patching them, but they keep coming back.
They try to patch the holes in our optimistic bucket where you put in a little entrepreneurship, you put in really good schools and more educational opportunities, you put in good jobs, you put in good wages, you put in good benefits, and then people can come.
pull something out of that bucket.
Because we work as a community, we work as a society to fill that bucket with possibilities.
And then you know what the best part is?
The children.
The children can look in that bucket and they have all of these things that they can pull out of the bucket to make themselves productive adults.
And then they're going to be successful and they'll pour into that bucket for the next generation.
Our bucket here is almost empty.
But here's the thing about our elected officials here.
All they have to do is just patch the bucket.
And then they know another hole is coming and they'll patch the bucket.
They don't have to seal it.
They don't have to.
They don't have to seal the bucket.
They know it's leaking.
What far too many of our local elected officials do, not all of them, but here's the thing, even if you're a really good one, a good policymaker, you need...
Cooperation from policy makers that aren't good Because they need majority votes to move anything.
Okay, and what's gonna happen?
This is a Milwaukee thing.
I think if somebody is really really good Try to diminish their shine because if they're too good, they're gonna make you look lazy because you are that's If somebody's really good They shame all of the people
that aren't good and the aren't good people absolutely are in the majority.
So you'll have the aren't goods coalescing and coming together to make sure the are goods aren't successful because if the are goods are successful, then the ain't goods look stupid.
I think that's the problem.
There's a couple of them that are.
And they're frustrated.
You can tell they get mad at their own colleagues.
There's answers to some of these questions.
And it also would reinvigorate public trust.
People aren't voting.
Voter turnout is low.
And I get it.
Now, I still want you to vote.
I also don't want you to fight a Bastille day.
So I guess if I had to pick.
Oh, don't put me in that choice.
I don't want to.
What do I choose?
We'll try it again next July Bastille days If y'all fight next year Bastille days, I'm gonna fight too.
That's just what I'm going to fight In fact, I need to get in the gym Keep myself in shape this winter.
I'm gonna learn I gotta fight I live in the city of Milwaukee even though I'm too old to fight I gotta I feel like if I want to go out and have a good time in certain parts of the city I need a good roundhouse kick the thing about a kick in a fight is nobody really expects a kick
The punches we expect those like you see people fighting they're putting up their dukes a Kick to the bread basket like nobody sees that coming.
You know I'm saying who you I I watch a lot of MMA and I've realized that I could not be an MMA fighter, but You kick somebody in the chin that that changes the whole trajectory of a fight.
I think people need to kick mark Take a break come back.
Oh, let's look at the pole
Y'all are worse than me Tom Tiffany crash real or a hoax 70% of you think it's a hoax, so I'm not alone Then it just seemed really suspicious how his plane just went down in the water and how do you get out?
How do you not drown because their plane is not waterproof?
Plains fill with water and they show the plane and it's weird because it only landed in the waters not even that deep which is also weird like they landed in the perfect shallow part of Lake Warsaw
You know whenever there's a tragedy anywhere in the world you're gonna see video footage uploaded to social media before the news even arrives on the scene whereas because I combed I Think the best source for that kind of footage and it's usually X formerly Twitter.
I did nothing I'm gonna take a break come back Read some of these commentaries on the YouTube
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I Heard them remark today like oh sure when you're wrong We are increasing our YouTube subscribers since I went on that rant like a week ago.
You know how many more subscribers we got 10
10 I Tell people to go to YouTube every day because I put a poll up
So frustrated it's hot in here like the turn the goddamn heat on oh you want to you want to fan oh They brought you a fan.
Yeah, that's why Dean was in here with the fasting Dean Walker Dean is an unusual fellow.
He's he helps us out a lot more than you think
I know he does.
So I seen Dean walking around upstairs and he had a fan in his hand.
And it was weird because like he's holding the fan walking in one direction, but his head was turned looking at me.
So he's got a fan here and he's didn't say hello.
I smiled and nodded at him, but he's he was determined.
He was it's hot as hell in here.
Yeah, he brought it down for us.
So I'll bring it in there.
Do you need it?
Is it hot in there?
I don't need it.
I
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John says via the YouTube I wonder at what point the quote powers that be start the draft and then he defines the draft for those of you that don't know it is a no-choice military conscription and he was wondering when that's going to be cranked up I got good news for you never
So every adult male has got to register for the Selective Service by law.
And if you don't register for the Selective Service, it's almost like a minor felony.
There's things you can't get, government services you can't apply for or receive.
A whole bunch of grants you can't get, so you got to sign up for the Selective Service.
Here is why there will be no draft.
The kind of wars that we will have in the 21st century.
Will not require those kinds of ground troops.
That's number one.
It'll be electronic warfare It'll be cyber warfare and it'll be drones and missiles and that kind of stuff and it might be nuclear and Americans are too fat and out of shape if you drafted do you know how many American young men would fail the physical do you know what kind you have to be in like not perfect shape but
Pretty close because they don't have a lot of time to get you ready to fight physically You love my god the anxiety the depression the medications that people are on no way the obesity It would might be I don't know one in a hundred maybe would qualify and Then you have the people that would defect that would go to Canada because some people just wouldn't
They wouldn't fight in a war.
So no, they know better than that.
In fact, that's more of a reason why we need immigrants.
I bet immigrants will come to this country and be more willing to fight for this country than we would.
Thank God I'm too old.
I get bone spurs like I present it.
Oh yeah, bone spurs for sure.
My bones are spurred.
And both of his feet.
A whole bunch of ways to get out the draft.
Play crazy.
I got a...
Something I was gonna share with y'all, but I you can really get out of the draft, but I'll save that one for myself But no Reggie, we're not gonna they're not gonna draft anybody Americans are way too out of shape and be embarrassing The Chinese have an army That's probably the size they could draft like 50 million people just the Chinese And they would kick our asses and do better math too
Let's see what else we got on the YouTube chat.
Mostly people exchanging pleasantries.
I don't even know why I read Reginald Jones' comments.
He just talks about just literally anything that comes to mind.
He just types it.
What a life.
Sitting, listening to Sherwin Hughes all day.
I wish I could do that.
A bunch of y'all sitting around in your underwear eating bacon and eggs.
Listening to me bloviate on about how terrible the world is Wonder woman great name.
Happy Monday.
You got me thinking about Halloween.
Oh, that's mr. Maddie.
That's ah speaking of Halloween Got my costume idea, but I need another person I Need a woman preferably between the ages of 29 and 54
medium bill To be The second part of my two-part Halloween costume and what we're gonna do is we're gonna go to every single Halloween Costume party that we can go to the ones that are paying for first place and we're gonna win And we're gonna collect hella dough Because this costume idea that I have I need another person preferably a lady Slim to medium bill.
I'll take a thicky thick
You can be a little heavy set.
It's just the costume is going to bulge in one part if you're too thick.
But we can make that work.
It might even actually add to the overall theme of what we're going to accomplish.
And we're just going to clean up.
So here's the thing.
Halloween is on a weekend this year.
Oh, that's spooky right there.
I love it.
Halloween is on a Saturday.
So that whole weekend is going to be freaky-deaky.
In fact, you know what I think I might do?
I might come because I got another costume that I haven't worn in a couple of years.
I might wear not.
The winning costume that I need another person for because if I wore that I would need a woman in here with me for the whole show and that's We're not gonna do that But I might dress up in one of my Auxiliary Halloween costumes that Friday October 30th and just sit here and I'll just do the show like normal I won't even like point out the fact that I'm wearing a costume like you won't even be able to tell I'm just gonna do this show normal like I'm doing it right now But I doesn't be in full regalia being full costume.
So that's
gonna be a lot of fun, but I am recruiting.
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The truth with Sherwin Hughes I get Really frustrated and I'd imagine some of you do as well with Not just the reoccurrence of violence in the city But our benign responses to it it's just it we just expected it just happens it just happens Every winter time
When we think about the warm weather months because you you long for nicer days in the middle of winter, but then Our excitement about the summer because summer is in Milwaukee can be a lot of fun because there's a lot more things to do a lot of stuff going on festivals and Outdoor activities, it's always tempered with well, you know There's gonna be an uptick in violent crime and shootings and homicide so we can't even be fully fully excited
about the summer because we know that it comes with a catch and what's even more frustrating is another anti-violence
Meeting another anti-violence rally anti-violence walk another nonprofit dedicated to the violence and the anti-violence and stop the violence and then you got people posting all over social media stuff like and this I believe this slogan is really really helpful It works really well when people say stuff like put the guns down Saying put the guns down
Is as effective as parents saying well, let's stay together for the kids When has that ever worked?
It hasn't might as well get divorced It just gets nauseating Well, what did you do over the weekend?
I went to an anti-gun violence rally and then I went to a march and then I went to the organization in the nonprofit
designed for the victims and the victim services because, you know, violence, we are being held hostage by what I believe is a very small group of people.
So before I go and start assigning blame, because that is not what these next several segments is going to be about.
It's not about assigning blame because we've done that and it gets us nowhere.
It's not even about, you know, creating policy because they just know that there's a hole in our bucket of opportunity and opportunity leaks out.
And that opportunity oftentimes leaks out to other places, to other cities, to other towns, other counties, other metro areas, other states and other regions.
There's a lot of talent and a lot of really great people that are cultivated here in Wisconsin and Milwaukee.
We've got a lot of great institutions here.
We've got a lot of great schools here, but then people go somewhere else to realize their talent because our opportunity bucket in the city has a hole in it and it is hemorrhaging.
It needs a tourniquet.
And so people leave.
There's so much violence in the city of Milwaukee of all types.
I'm talking about the street type even fights shootings fatal non-fatal domestic violence It is an industry ladies and gentlemen.
It's a two-fold industry There's the industry that prevents it and then there's an industry that tries to treat it after the fact We're very reactionary to because we've got so many agencies and organizations and anything that has
any kind of funding to stop violence or mitigate violence and provide youth activities.
All of that is siphoning money away from things that I think could be much more productive like training people, getting people a skill, providing more opportunities for folks, encouraging people to move here and invest in the city of Milwaukee.
It is an industry.
We have a violence industrial complex.
That is why I don't believe this is my personal opinion.
You can disagree.
And actually, I want you to.
There's no real motivation to stop, to reduce or to fix because so much money is made after the shot has been fired.
Whole industries are employed.
People have pensions and benefits and wages and promotions based on how much violence there is in the city of Milwaukee and all of the infrastructure like the business infrastructure, the non-profit infrastructure that is designed and expecting the violence.
Gotta help the victims gotta have this organization gotta have this gotta have these services gotta have the counseling services gotta hire more EMTs gotta have more first responders gotta have more police gotta have more this we are spending more money than we have and there are people making money So when you think about money think about a cycle Like water is the cycle, you know that all of the water that has ever been on earth is still here on earth It just gets cycle because even when you drink water the water comes out of you when you go pee pee
And then the water and the oceans goes up into the clouds.
And then the clouds are like, oh, we're full.
And then the water comes back down in the form of rain and precipitation.
So all the water just cycles.
Money cycles, too.
So we are spending money on something.
Prevention or awareness.
Or we got to have another anti-violence rally.
Got to have another anti-violence walk.
We should be in real good shape.
How many violence walks do we go on?
Every walk is the top.
Tori Lowe does the violence walk.
Every year he's still doing those.
I want to hope he does he walks.
I never participated in him because I'll be damn I'm just not doing that.
It's not me.
I'm not that's so low.
No, I shouldn't say that.
We're better than that.
Like we're just reduced.
Well, we can't stop any of the violence.
Let's walk together.
Let's just been walking since the goddamn civil rights movement ain't gone anywhere on a treadmill.
Racking up all these miles burn up all this shoe leather doing all these walks.
Aren't y'all sick of that?
It's embarrassing It is and I don't want to diminish the people that have been hurt But I know that there is an industry that exists and every single day somebody wants to start another nonprofit I got to help the people I got to start another nonprofit.
Okay fine help start the nonprofit
Help the people, but you gotta get paid, you need money, you need grants, you gotta pay your staff, you gotta have management, you gotta have a building.
Okay, that's all well and good, but all of that money that is being given to you, your agency, your nonprofit, and maybe you're making a difference, maybe you're not.
I know that the numbers stay relatively consistent every single year, even though homicides may be down 9%, other categories of crime is up.
Whenever a crime exists every single year it costs more money and when I give you the details of how much money it costs It's not just in the obvious There are people standing outside of my window taking pictures Now there's two white people hugging.
Do you see this Xavier?
Do you see how there's not a lady's putting their armor on?
What happens like
why do they do
Don't say nothing Xavier.
I don't even want to hear what you got to say.
You're gonna throw me off track I'm frustrated is what I'm trying to tell you There's a whole industry dedicated to black tragedy We got a museum showcasing our Holocaust really you only need to go once Our whole story
It seems or the most popular Characterized parts of the black story is one of tragedy You know any black people have played slaves and movies slaves and mammy's because that's just Not we've played other roles too has a bit of black James Bond Has an isn't Idris Elba Elba with his beautiful self isn't he a black James Bond
They were talking about it, but I think that's not going to happen.
They didn't give it to him.
He could be a good black James Bond.
Hello.
Bond James Bond.
White women will absolutely sleep with him.
They'll leave their husbands in a second.
Actually, no, they won't.
Yeah, leave your husband to sleep with somebody.
Just sleep with them and don't tell your husband.
Husband won't even know.
I mean, come on, fellas.
If your wife wants to go.
Hang out with Idris Elba like if he's willing like you should be proud of it You know they hey everybody Idris Elba knows my wife personally.
Oh really?
Can I have your autograph sir?
Yes, you can The more nonprofits we have The more revenue we are losing and we cannot invest in other areas.
I'm gonna give you a little snapshot here because I'm gonna get into some
Pretty heavy stuff in a second by one third of all of the land in the city of Milwaukee is owned or occupied by an entity or an agency that collects zero property tax dollars So about 33 or 34 ish
Square miles which is a lot in a city that is ninety six point one square miles collects no tax revenue and so that other sixty four sixty five percent of land and buildings and dwellings therein has got to be the entire tax burden for the city and we're not getting any more land however if you
Ask me about how we can get more land because we need more Milwaukee needs to expand.
I say we go west.
Let's take a little piece of walking show.
What are they going to do?
I think we should annex a little piece of Ozarkie County.
We should annex a little piece of Washington County.
Would say we annex a little piece of the county directly south of us, you know, that's southern County That's right south of Milwaukee County You know what County that is what County is just south of Milwaukee County if you're traveling south on the 94 headed to Chicago and you cross out of Milwaukee County was that first County you go to I don't want to piece it out everything but Because we need more land and we need more property that we can tax because one-third of the land is either a church
A school, a government building, so think of city hall, think of police stations, fire stations, the municipal buildings, all of the city-owned building, the Department of Public Works, the police stations, the police substations, the places where the police have their squad cars.
A third of the land is a government agency entity or non-profit.
The more nonprofits we have and the more buildings they acquire, that's less tax revenue that is coming into the city and that's a bigger tax burden on us.
At the same time, MPS is hungry.
They want every penny they can possibly get.
We are taxing people to oblivion, but I still don't believe that is why people are leaving.
People are leaving this city because the violence industrial complex is $744 million.
Every single year we don't have that kind of money.
I need to think about this now This is three quarters of a billion dollars coming from a city of five hundred thousand people for all of the violence prevention all of the intended and unintended consequences of a shooting a non-fatal shooting a fight the lost property tax dollars people leaving the city and taking their property tax dollars and they're spending with them it is insane Milwaukee Bucks revenue
It's 350 million dollars a year Our violence industrial complex is roughly two seasons of Milwaukee bucks revenue all of it all of it the whole dear district all of it all the ticket sales all of the beers all of the drinks all of the hot dogs and all of the popcorns Everything all of the concessions all the goddamn jerseys you buy the violence industrial complex in this city is three quarters of a billion dollars
Someone is getting paid when we shoot each other and they're not inclined to have us stop.
I'm gonna take a break come back We're gonna get into it today because I don't blame anybody for leaving because if you were spending that kind of money every single year We can't pour into the opportunity bucket
We can't.
We've got to spend way too much money.
Got to have a violence program here.
Got to have a nonprofit here.
Got to have this.
Got to do a violence walk.
Got to do a community gathering.
A community get together.
Got to have a community anti-violence program.
Got to have a community forum.
Let's have a meeting.
Should we have a meeting?
Let's have another meeting to talk about somebody getting shot.
But hold on.
Be careful where you have the meeting because somebody might get shot at the meeting.
And then we're going to have the meeting when Miles will plan for the next meeting because somebody's going to get shot in between meetings.
In the wintertime we're going to plan we're going to plan for a safe summer because we know a bunch of people are going to get shot and they're going to get killed Can't do anything about it, but we can have let's plan You guys want to start another agency another nonprofit because we don't have enough of those Let's see if we can start one more if we just have one more agency one more nonprofit then maybe just maybe somebody won't shoot somebody You know how much each shooting cost you know how much they cost 2.05 million dollars and all of the associated services that takes place with the shooting
Two million dollars per shooting and we simply can't stop might as well give them the bullets then Might as well make the bullets easier to get because if we know they're gonna shoot why should we have to stress them out on where they're gonna get the ammo?
It's insane to me.
It really is and when I look at these numbers like I got sick They were just sitting here just spending the money just throwing good money after bad The truth with Sherwin Hughes on one on one seven FM will be right back
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Once the definition is expanded beyond street outreach workers to include violence prevention, victim services, reentry, probation, parole, community corrections, and the personnel infrastructure required to operate all of those systems, Milwaukee has what can be reasonably described as a
nine figure annual violence response economy listen to me we have a violence response economy it is a financial ecosystem of something that I believe is it's preventable but why would you prevent something I'm gonna give you the low estimate and I'm gonna give you the full Monty
The full dollar amount is getting in some estimates here.
It's over a billion dollars.
When you look at lost property values, lost entrepreneurship opportunities, it goes on and on and on and on.
Why would you want to stop that?
Somebody is making money and it ain't us.
The best estimate is that roughly one hundred twenty five to one hundred seventy five million dollars in distinct public and nonprofit resources are spent every year in Milwaukee.
on prevention, intervention, victim services, reentry and community corrections related to violence and serious offending.
If you simply add the operating budgets of the organizations and agencies involved without correcting for grants and contracts that pass from government agencies to nonprofits, the apparent ecosystem approaches or exceeds $180 million to $220 million every 12 years.
months.
This is separate from the much larger economic costs caused by violence itself.
A recent Milwaukee area public health analysis puts the government slash economic costs of just shootings, just shootings alone at $744,500,000 every 12 months.
And even that figure does not fully capture depressed property values, reduced business activity, foregone investment, trauma, educational disruption, quality of life losses, or the statistical value of lives loss.
I'm going to read you some components in the annual spending, and this should open your eyes to something that we simply throw our hands up and can't prevent.
My eyes will make money off of it.
Can't stop it can't stop somebody from shooting can't Can't can't tell people to talk it out or maybe I don't know walk away As angry as I may get at someone and I've been pretty hot I always reserve the right for diplomacy When the leaders of warring nations who are literally killing each other's children at the time of the meeting
If they can sit down, then I don't know why two people that have an argument over a woman can't just say, hey, screw her.
Let's not kill each other over her.
But no, you've got to shoot somebody in the face because they took your woman.
Milwaukee Department of Community Wellness and Safety, approximate annual spending $5,100,000.
Milwaukee County Community Reintegration Center, $67.1 million per year.
The Sojourner Family Peace Center, $9,500,000 per year.
Wisconsin Community Services, $54.2 million per year.
Even the Running Rebels program is included in this $5.3 million per year.
Safe and Sound, $2,450,000 per year.
domestic abuse victim and witness operations, three plus million dollars just in staff, other victim reentry, domestic violence, community programs, millions more, Wisconsin Department of Corrections probation parole, attributable to Milwaukee alone, 10 plus million dollars every single year.
The city department of community wellness and safety is a good example of how misleading the commonly cited figure can be.
It's 2026, departmental budget is about $1.35 million, but when special purpose appropriations and grants associated with this programs are included, the program structure represents $5,108,000, approximately $2.31 million in operating, SPAs, and another $2.80 million in grants.
Programs include violence interruption, not just, you gotta interrupt it.
I know you're gonna shoot, but just pause.
Let's spend a couple million dollars on you pausing.
I am not at all trying to be disrespectful to the people that do this work because they're very, very good people.
I just want them and everybody else to know that there is a financial ecosystem that is based upon the recurring violence in the city of Milwaukee.
Whether we know what causes it, whether we know how to prevent it, all of that is irrelevant because it exists.
And whatever forms it exists in, and there are many, many forms of it, there is a financial ecosystem that costs the city of Milwaukee almost a billion dollars every single year.
That does not mean that the people who are working in these industries are faulty.
It doesn't mean they aren't good at their jobs.
It's just they are part of a system that is like a permanent fixture.
of this city and maybe other cities have it too but I don't live in other cities if I want to have a good time in this city I have to sometimes burden myself to go to places where bullets can't reach and I'll gladly do it but damn it gets expensive there's a cost on that too going to places where you are safe and where you feel safe and those places absolutely exist in the city but you are going to pay a premium but then at the end of the day
My life is worth the investment, I suppose, but I have to go to the places where the bullet can't reach.
Milwaukee County's Community Reintegration Center, formerly the House of Corrections, has a 2026 expenditure budget of $67,130,000, including $29.08 million in personnel expenses.
It has 358 full-time employees.
Its stated mission specifically includes successful reintegration programming and resources intended to produce behavioral, change, and enhance public safety.
How large is the institutional economy Milwaukee maintains because of violence, serious crime, and recidivism?
Probation and parole is another substantial layer.
Wisconsin's Division of Community Correction supervises probationers, parolees, and people on extended supervision.
Milwaukee's Region 3 alone had 13,027 clients, 373.5 staff positions and 260 probation and parole agents in fiscal year 2025.
That is roughly one-fifth of Wisconsin's entire community supervision population.
Just in one zone in the city of Milwaukee The state also spends 38 million 790 thousand dollars statewide and fiscal year 2026 just on Purchased community corrections goods and services.
That's the economy because now you can sell all of these agencies all of the products and the services that they will need there is no Real motivation to stop the violence which you need to do is manage it so that you can
Profit off of it because if it's not going anywhere if it's a fixture that we just throw our hands up and don't know how to prevent Might as well get paid at least somebody can retire off of it, you know The state also spent thirty eight point seven nine million dollars statewide and fiscal year 2026 just on purchased community corrections goods and services things such as treatment cognitive behavioral programs housing
community reintegration, employment services, substance use treatment and reentry.
That $38.8 million does not represent the entire DCC personnel operating budget.
So Milwaukee's attributable probation parole and reentry footprint.
Is readily in the tens of millions of dollars one salaries benefits office space and contracted treatment is counting The nonprofit violence economy is significant by itself, so I'm gonna take a break come back I'm gonna talk about this other part of the economy here in Milwaukee is a significant one.
It's the nonprofits that exist just to I don't know help victims prevent violence organize the marches in the walks
It is substantial and just think now all of this money that is going into quote-unquote prevention and victim services We could be allocating literally literally anywhere else anywhere else Pay the roads give it to NPS.
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The nonprofit violence economy is significant by itself.
And so let us challenge the notion that we are spending so much money downtown.
Well, you have to invest where property values are highest because the better downtown is doing the more overall revenue.
It's coming into city coffers and then state coffers and then we hope that we can get a better return on the money that we are sending to Madison via our income taxes, sales taxes, etc.
So the more people that are spending money downtown, the more overall revenue that is generated.
But there's more money on violence prevention in the city of Milwaukee and I can't even narrow it down to probably five or six zip codes than the entire Bucs ecosystem.
I need you to listen to me good.
All of the ticket sales and every single beer, drink and chicken wing order from every restaurant in the Deer District.
Every single year, violence prevention resources is three bucks seasons that we are spending.
So no, no, no, we're not spending more money downtown.
We're spending more money on us.
That's where the money is going.
So don't think that people are stealing the money.
You're wondering if there's a bunch of financial mismanagement going.
The violence ecosystem in the city of Milwaukee is a billion dollars a year.
That is three times annual Milwaukee bucks revenue every single year So yes money is being spent downtown more is being spent on us now I don't know That's probably not our priority of where we want the money spent, but at this point we don't have a choice the Sojourner Family Peace Center nine point five two million dollars and fiscal year 2025
including approximately 4.47 million dollars in salaries and wages serving domestic violence survivors and families about 130 employees were reported running rebels 5.28 million dollars in 2024 expenses 96 employees about 4.1 million dollars was classified as program service spending its programs explicitly include violence slash gang prevention and juvenile justice intervention imagine that spending 4.1 million dollars to prevent
Gang violence.
Safe and sound program.
Approximately 2.45 million dollars in 2025 expenses with 38 employees specifically organized around crime prevention, youth programming, neighborhood safety and community law enforcement partnerships.
So once I start getting through this list, you're going to see the sheer number of people.
It's like thousands of people in this city that work in some kind of or extension of anti violence violence prevention.
Victim Services programs thousands of people and it's hardly making a dent It's hardly making a dent And so since a dent is hardly being made by almost a billion dollars being spent on trying to prevent violence And you might as well just try manage it, you know But this is where our money is going.
So please don't think that somebody is stealing from you Please don't think the oh, they're investing all this money downtown.
We have to put money somewhere.
So think of downtown as like
the Dow Jones or the S&P 500 where Milwaukee is investing its property tax dollars and a lot of its resources in hopes that we get a better turn return on our investment so that the return on the investment that we get from investing downtown can fund these goddamn anti violence prevention programs So that's that's how you got to think of the flow of money in this city
A bunch of people come downtown for concerts and shows.
That's why when there's violence downtown, it really, really hurts because we need more wallets downtown spending money.
So we have more money to give to the safe and sound program and running rebels and all of the things to stop the people from doing all of the shooting.
And it doesn't really stop all of the people from doing all of the shooting.
Then there's Wisconsin Community Services, one of the largest players in the rehabilitation reentry infrastructure.
Its recent expenses were $54,190,000 with more than $28 million devoted to salaries and wages.
Its operations include court services, community reintegration, behavioral health and corrections programs.
Community Advocates adds another $17,760,000.
Portions support domestic violence, homelessness, behavioral health, and crisis services.
We're just a city that's just...
Really?
Trouble?
What's wrong Milwaukee?
Why y'all so sad?
Why everybody's sad?
Counting the whole organization would overstate the violence specific total, but excluding it, the money that community advocates receives would all together understate the full violence ecosystem.
The estimate of Milwaukee specific anti-violence industry.
So this is the stuff designed to stop the shooting.
and the punching's in the face.
The narrow definition, so prevention, intervention, which clearly doesn't work, because then you have victim assistance.
So you got money for prevention, there's money for intervention, and then, oh, we need money for victim assistance because the prevention and the intervention didn't work.
$25 to $40 million every year on those three categories, prevention, intervention, and victim assistance.
That's wild.
I don't know if the answer is another agency, another organization, or another nonprofit, or another walk, community violence walk, is the answer.
I think it's just an accompaniment.
I think it's something that exists.
They can get funded, where people can get paid, and they can feed their families based upon an inability to resolve conflict amongst people.
This encompasses violence interruption, domestic violence services, victim services, neighborhood safety programs, youth violence prevention, credible messengers, and closely related non-profit activity.
The expanded definition will include prevention plus victims, plus re-entry, plus probation and parole, plus community correction.
So the whole gamut, okay?
That's approximately 100 25 million and 175 million dollars in distinct annual spending They're spending more money on us than they are spending downtown.
Can we put that myth to rest?
I think people say that because downtown looks really nice and we must assume Oh, they're spending a bunch of money here.
They need to
Because the revenue that is generated from downtown economic and business activity needs to fund the anti-violence programs that are taking place I don't know about two and a half miles away sometimes not even two and a half miles away They're funding anti-violence programs in downtown itself.
Let me continue the gross institutional footprint before eliminating overlapping government grants and contracts is 180
to $220 million every single year.
And this is not Milwaukee County.
This is just the city.
Quote, Milwaukee appears to have at least a $125 million to $175 million a year.
Violence prevention victim service, community corrections and reentry ecosystem.
And that's before counting.
ordinary policing prosecution.
Oh, I didn't even count the policing costs.
Oh, I forgot about that.
Where's my policing costs at?
Oh, add a zero on everything.
For the policing costs.
Milwaukee appears to have at least $125 million to $175 million a year of violence prevention, victim service, community corrections.
and reentry ecosystem, and that's before counting ordinary policing, prosecution, the entire court system, prisons, and emergency medicine that needs to be administered to victims.
So when we think about our current crop of elected officials, right, wherever they serve, whether it be the mayor, the people appointed by the mayor, the people on all the different commissions and the boards and the common council and the common council staff and all of the county board and all of the county people, think about that.
To run for office means that you have to deal with this.
This is what you're representing.
This is what you do every single day when you go to work.
It's not, oh, I'm going to go and create jobs.
You have to manage a violence economy, a violence ecosystem that has almost a billion dollars all told.
almost a billion dollar industry.
This is what you do as an elected official.
You're not stopping anything.
You're not preventing anything.
You are managing the next bullet that gets fired and all of the consequences that take place after that.
And all the agencies and all the nonprofits and all the prevention and all the staff and all of the management and all of the buildings and all of the software they need for all of their computers to track who's going to get shot and how many times.
And I did not even include policing in this that is a whole nother a whole because we're gonna pay for policing forever These cops get pensions their wives are surviving spouses get pensions So the more police we need and some of you would say oh my god.
Yes, we need more police Okay, we're gonna pay for those cops their salaries and their benefits and their health insurance until their spouse dies We could be talking about
45 50 years of city tax money and revenue Paying for the pensions of these cops that we need more of so when you say we need more police know that that comes at a cost, too It's a lot cheaper if you can just say hey Learn to talk it out or if you have a problem with someone and you know that they go to the basketball court at McGovern Park Maybe maybe go to Lincoln Park and play basketball.
You know what I'm saying?
Maybe just go
Maybe go maybe don't go to a park at all Maybe park your ass at home on the couch and watch Netflix for 895 a month the cheaper tier of Netflix the one with the commercials and I don't mind the cheaper tier of Netflix with the commercials because during the Netflix commercials I check my phone It's not bad Instead of being out there in my government Park shooting at somebody not talking about shooting a basketball either Take a break come back
I'm gonna leave you with this and then we're gonna come back and we're gonna dig you guys want to dig Let's dig Xavier.
Are we digging so we get deeper?
I can go so much deeper.
Yeah goes deep as you can.
I'm
Yeah, there you go ouch Some people like that The National Institute for criminal justice reform Calculated the total cost
of a single Milwaukee fatal shooting at $2,050,000 per fatal shooting.
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And I hate to sound like a pessimist here, but come on, you know, we're spending three quarters of a billion dollars and where's that getting what what else can you do?
We're doing it all Move Go somewhere go out in the country Just relax go where it's quiet I'd like to look out of my window and see deer Pheasants
birds chickadees foxes kangaroos wallabies I'd like to look out of my window and see Ducks a duck build platypus.
I want to just
I want to retire in the nature.
I want to have a four-wheeler and I want to have like fishing ponds on my land and sometimes I just want to get up early in the morning and I want to make some coffee and I'll get out on my four-wheeler and there's and there's dew and a little rolling fall and I'll ride my four-wheeler and I'll just breathe in that cool
crisp country air.
And just look at my land with a sense of pride.
And then you let out one of those belly laughs, even though nothing is funny, kind of like Bailey Coleman.
That's what I want out there in the country where you can have 50 acres of land and your property taxes are $9 and 37 cents.
And it's just you're just in and you look up at night and you see the stars And then you look and you see bald eagles Hairy eagles All the golden eagles That's what I want Little shoots the place for you.
Let's talk to Millison.
She'll have the answers for us.
Hi Millison.
I'll read you today
Don't let
the
grass
grow it's nature
and they want to keep the bad people, it's easier to run them out of the city.
They're
not easy.
Good people can have the ability to leave.
Bad
They will go if you make it uncomfortable for them.
Right now, they are very comfortable here.
They can do anything they want with no consequence.
Start using the law as a consequence.
are
and parole.
The law is a consequence.
You've got to understand.
The
is only... Millicent, listen to
It's not about breaking it.
It's not about breaking
it.
The only thing we can do is either we move away or we kill them.
We just got to kill
them.
No, no.
You can get them out of here.
Where are they going?
You can't kill them.
Okay.
That's a question.
It doesn't matter.
Do you care where they're going or do you want your city better?
go to another city.
Let it
another city.
What's it going to take them?
It
doesn't matter.
Do you think the people, if it's not, this is why we're not going to spend a billion dollars every single year because of our solution is, well, just get rid of it.
Because dollars spending money to keep the problem.
If you would stop spending money to keep the problem, what is trying to keep the problem?
Let the problem go.
I'm just saying, if you made it work, it was very uncomfortable here.
No more allowing you to drive with no tax.
It
What we are seeing is the result of things being uncomfortable for them and this is what the reaction is.
Things are uncomfortable for them and this is how they're responding to it.
So anything that we can pack up people and just move them somewhere, you can't do that.
Because you also can't tell
me how.
making it comfortable.
How
comfortable?
Most cities that have changed.
When somebody
about for action.
We're talking about getting rid of people, not the action.
We already know what they're doing.
So if you make it where the first thing is, we're out of calls down for a year.
That's what I'm not going to entertain this foolishness.
Do this collecting $10 million or 10 in a 10 million a month in writing that he's going to close down.
Then you're going to have a homelessness problem.
And also, OK, let's humor her for a second with the most ridiculous thing.
This is embarrassing.
Spending a billion dollars.
And this is the best we can come up with.
Well, just get rid of them.
OK, get rid of them.
More coming.
More are going to come.
More being born.
Get rid of them?
What do you want a Holocaust?
The National Institute for Criminal Justice Reform calculated the government cost of a single Milwaukee fatal shooting at $2,050,000.
A non-fatal shooting cost $644,491.
The components are remarkably concrete.
Crime scene police and EMT for a fatal shooting that costs for every shooting now Seven thousand nine hundred fifty five dollars for a non fatal shooting it costs four thousand nine hundred nineteen dollars Hospitals hospital slash medical for a fatal shooting eighty eight thousand five hundred twenty five dollars for non fatal shooting more expensive because the person still alive one hundred forty four thousand six hundred seventeen dollars the criminal justice for a fatal shooting so lawyers
Judges prosecutors investigating the case fifty five thousand nine hundred sixty two dollars per fatal shooting for non-fatal shooting eight thousand five hundred seventy dollars incarceration for fatal shooting one point seven three million dollars incarceration for non-fatal shooting four hundred sixteen thousand dollars victim and social services per fatal shooting seventy five thousand three hundred twenty nine dollars
for non-fatal shooting for victim and social services, $57,028.
Lost tax revenue for fatal shooting, $88,352.
Lost tax revenue for non-fatal shooting, $12,369.
Total per every non-fatal shooting in the city of Milwaukee, $644,491 per non-fatal shooting.
That's so many getting shot in the ass.
Fatal shootings?
two million fifty four thousand dollars police response is not the largest expense incarceration is
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I am providing information on why I believe people moved away because the violence infrastructure, the violence industrial complex in the city of Milwaukee.
It's about three quarters of a billion dollars, and I don't believe that it is sufficiently preventing, but maybe it is properly managing the epidemic of violence.
And when you are spending that kind of money on a problem that is not at all diminishing, you're better off moving somewhere else where less money is spent on a violence prevention ecosystem.
Let's talk to a patient waiting.
Sam.
Hi, Sam.
How are you?
You're on one on one, seven The Truth.
I'm doing all
Okay, first I want to agree with little sign About getting them out of here Because I believe that penalties for certain firms are soft Go back to the keyboard era those kids will get caught And they'll be on house arrest And then go back out water on house arrest and steal more cars
How about just sitting straight to jail?
We can't.
But why we can't?
Because black people get very angry when we come and find out a lot of black people are in jail because then we call the whole criminal justice system racist.
And so they're much more likely to have, you know, extended supervision and have house arrest.
Here's the other thing.
Right now with the current prisons we have in the state of Wisconsin, they're designed to hold 17,000 inmates.
Sam, you know how many inmates we got in those prisons?
23,000.
We are 133% over capacity, which is unconstitutional.
So even if we lock them up and send more of them away, number one, they're going to get out eventually.
And when they get out, now they're coming back to the community with a criminal record, they ain't going to get a job.
We don't have the prisons to hold the people there probably should be there.
So we got to build more prisons, which we can do, but there's a whole bunch of other investments and resources that we're not going to get because we got to spend our money on building more prisons.
So they'll oblige you if you want to build more prisons.
Oh, I absolutely know the Republicans and Democrats will take some of your tax money right out of your wallet and build more prisons, but your roads ain't gonna get paved.
Garbage might not get picked up in your snow ain't gonna get plowed, but at least we'll have some prisons.
I'd rather have prisons than my garbage picked up.
They gotta go.
These kids gotta go.
Another option I know we can't do, but that's just kill them.
Get rid of them.
Yeah.
Sorry.
Especially if they don't care.
If they don't care about life and what they doing, then why keep on the rent?
And that's it.
Thanks, Sam.
Glad he said that because the attitude and Sam, right, we would call him like, I'm tired of this.
Sam is an upstanding citizen.
He was like, oh, we'll kill him.
That's exactly what people are doing on the street right now.
So Sam, I'm glad he said that.
Because he represents that same attitude That exists on the street That's costing us a billion dollars a year because whenever people say oh, we got to get rid of them the people on the street right now that are doing all the violence They're doing they're doing that for us aren't they?
They're getting rid of them and how is that working out?
We make it seem like oh, this is a problem that we'll just get rid of them and then they won't be here anymore.
You know, there's more every day
It's like, oh, let's graduate this class from MPS.
Then there won't be any more seniors.
Let's just graduate them.
And then we're done graduating.
There's another graduating class that are juniors.
There's another class.
They're sophomores.
They're going to be graduating too.
So even if you quote unquote, get rid of them, there's more that are coming.
It's not like, oh, let's just get rid of them.
And then we'll all be safe.
I think the public.
I'm starting to see that we need to be better educated on this ecosystem because if our attitude is the same as theirs, oh, we'll just get rid of them.
Like you can just get rid of people.
Let's talk to someone who very well may have the solution.
Hi, Al.
How are you doing today?
I'm doing wonderful.
Two years of things.
And this is what I have noticed.
You got to cut back on affectionate.
the low income and the disability because, you know, a lot of these houses is dysfunctional.
And I noticed where it's a lot of drama.
A lot of these people live with these people because they don't work.
So you're going to have to limit that.
A lot of y'all see the get upset.
They are already gentrifying the inner city of Milwaukee.
I mean, it's a house for $200,000 on 11th and Keith in 53206.
So they are already pricing y'all out.
You know, so I say cut back on the government assistance.
A lot of times when you have a lot of government assistance, you have a lot of chaos because don't nobody work.
And a person who work have a different standard for people who don't work.
You got to cut back on that.
Another thing you got to cut back on is the slum landlords.
Because the slum landlords rent to the people who got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten evictions.
And then they rent to anything.
They just collect in the rent.
When you look at other areas where they don't have all that, you don't have some landlords.
You don't have a lot of section eight.
You don't have this thing of where they're going to go.
They don't care where you go.
They push you out like they do black people.
So that's why it's always concentrated here.
Another thing is, and I'm not going to even throw the politicians in it, because a lot of them know what's going on in the community, but they only move when the white people come along.
And that's why you got the white people that's moving on the north side, but they only come out at night time.
And they're buying your houses up dirt cheap.
And then they're taking the problem houses and asking $200,000 to $250,000 that people are paying with no garage.
But you're going to have to push the people out.
I'm not going to say they need to die, because if they burning up all the spoons and all the steel oil and you can't clean your pots and pans, they're going to kill themselves anyway from bad dope to no dope.
That's why their eyes is big, it's cash issues.
I say pull back on the government assistance and you will start seeing a change.
You can't save everybody.
What do you look like trying to save somebody who don't want to save themselves?
You let them go.
That's all you can do.
Everybody is smart, bright and intelligent and nobody is dumb as to set some nuts.
But if you don't want to save yourself.
Can't you gotta let them go, but you gotta cut back on the section eight a redness distance the disability and the slum landlords because you're slum left You know you got some politicians that slumber landlords too.
Oh, yeah You know you got a lot of these wealthy white people who own these houses in the inner city and you got to get on your building inspectors, too
because a lot of them from landlords is random house sounds when they could be condemned.
Now, I know y'all going to cut me out, but I'm all for it.
I'll hang up and listen.
Bye bye.
Thanks.
I appreciate your
If you to humor him for a moment, cut off the government assistance and you get rid of section eight.
Now you have a homelessness problem.
So add a zero onto everything that I just said.
By eliminating government assistance and programs We are adding to the problem what government assistance can do and of course it gets exploited and taken advantage of it you can get to a point of Diminishing returns because you have people that live and survive solely on government assistance Which keeps them and us as taxpayers on the hook until they die till one of us dies But I don't think that that would
It's not necessarily a problem to be ultimately solved It's one to be managed and hopefully over time reduced and all this technology that we have we still have not figured out a Better way to manage and reduce the violent incidents even though it's costing us a billion dollars that we don't even have in this city But what seems to be a very popular opinion is well, we'll just get rid of them
Here's how that actually work.
We don't get rid of them.
We have to move and let them stay you understand it They're not going anywhere they can't They can't go anywhere.
They can't pack up and move.
They're not going to German town.
I'm not going to Oak Creek I'm not moving a door County
They're fixed.
They've been here for generations.
Their grandmoms was poor, their grandfathers was poor, and the culture that they live in is transmitted from mother to child, from father to son.
They're here, okay?
We have the ability to leave, and that's exactly what people are doing.
So it's interesting.
I hear people saying, oh, we got to get rid of them.
No, no, no.
They're going to stay.
We are the ones that are leaving.
Let's talk to.
Jordan you're on one-on-one seven the truth.
How are you?
I'm doing well sir.
I'm
I Just wanna I gotta say it man.
It's a lot of black folks.
They sound like they sound like them.
They sound like the white boys just kill them Like anything I don't understand it.
I think the problem is honestly beyond us.
It's a It's a two three four five generation deep
Problem that's embedded.
It's it's rooted.
It's got a tuxing.
It's staying, you know, we can move.
Yeah, but that just leaves the problem somewhere else
about how do you how do you heal the people though, man?
Honestly on the real yeah, we can move and that and that works for you and for me But honestly, do you do you have
not I want to know
cuz I don't even know the people that need to be healed brother Don't even know they're sick because they live in a world and surrounded by a culture
That's normalized all of this.
In fact, we're the sick ones But also I want to take issue with something you said because I get it you said the people sound like the white folks kill them No, that's they sound like black people because black people
are
Exactly,
people
promise you, we have
Yeah, I feel it's about your own personal happiness finding your bliss.
I really, I really, really dug though.
You know, I ain't no radio calling person.
I'm a.
I'm a I'm a young you know me whatever whatever I might be a Y in myself.
I really
really dug the Country air The fun that you just want to find your personal piece your little piece of happiness, so that's all we need if they understood that There was more You know what I mean then then what what they see out of their friend
a lot of
my my lot of my niggas my peers my friends
died I'm almost ten years removed you know without my my friends who didn't grow up to be young men on on earth you know me and I realized like there's when you don't like you said what you don't know you don't know you know ignorant to live some shit it's just it's sad man but yeah
man I can dig it man have a good
How about we just teach them how to read and use logic?
Well, with the curriculum that I learned about UPS, I mean, NPS has, it's pretty hard.
They're actually bringing books back to school.
Are they gonna still be reading off a laptop?
I don't know all them details, but they are they did say When I was reading press releases about the beginning of the school year There was a whole bunch of bullet points about new things.
They're gonna try and different strategies and different avenues They're going to explore and to that I say good because at the root of all of this is a lack
academic success at the root of all of this are a lot of people that cannot read on great level the world becomes a really big scary place if you cannot read decipher and interpret the fine print that surrounds us Milwaukee's annual bill roughly 744 million five hundred thousand dollars from shootings
The Milwaukee County Community Health Needs Assessment applied those cost estimates to Milwaukee's 2024 firearm violence volume and calculated.
Fatal shootings every year cost $332,700,000 non-fatal shootings cost $411,800,000 combined approximately.
seven hundred forty four million five hundred thousand dollars that is roughly two point zero four million dollars every twenty four hours that can't be right that is two point it is right that is two million forty thousand dollars every twenty four hours we're spending on shootings or roughly
$85,000 per hour, 24 hours a day.
And Milwaukee continued to experience very substantial violence in 2025.
Milwaukee Police Department reported 142 homicides and 515 non-fatal shooting victims.
Although homicide and fatal shooting figures are not interchangeable because not every homicide involves a firearm.
Non-fatal shootings were down.
from six hundred thirty nine in twenty twenty four and a seven hundred forty four million dollars probably understates the real economic damage the NICJR calculation includes very important direct costs but cannot comprehensively price several enormous indirect financial effects property values
Violence produces a wealth effect that is particularly consequential for homeowners.
Urban Institute research across multiple cities found that neighborhoods experiencing gun violence surges saw home appreciation approximately 4 percentage points lower and also experienced falling and failing homeownership rates and credit scores.
Then you got to move.
You didn't pay all this money for this house and all this down payment And all this mortgage to have the value of your property go down because we can't spend enough money to stop students You got to move somewhere to where your property values are gonna go up Like a man on Viagra But consider the mechanism
I was waiting on that.
A house that might have appreciated from $150,000 to $165,000 instead appreciates to $159,000.
That's roughly $6,000 of household wealth that does not materialize.
Repeat that across thousands of properties in neighborhoods persistently identified with violent crime and the suppressed household wealth in the city of Milwaukee is, Jesus Christ, tens of millions of dollars.
It also eventually matters to municipal finances because weaker assessments can mean a weaker property tax base.
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So there's no There's no solution and I think that's what people are listening for because I tell Folks all of this these details and these facts.
I'm just telling you what it is.
It's not
like
So now what do we do?
We're doing it.
We're doing it
We're spending all of the money we have.
There's not a nonprofit that is not addressing a need that arises and the need is so big that more nonprofits are springing up.
It's an entire industry.
It is a violence industrial complex that every year we are spending three times Milwaukee bucks revenue.
So stop saying that we're investing and spending all of our money downtown.
No, we're not.
We're spending them on fatal shootings.
That's where the money is going.
Downtown could never.
They could never get this much money in investment.
We are investing more in something that really is not improving.
But that's where the money is going.
That's why we can't have nice things.
And if you stay, your property values are going to go down.
And if you stay, the tax revenue that the city is collecting goes down, down, down, down.
If you stay, expect property tax increases to make up for the reduction in property values.
And so instead of us saying, oh, they need to leave, they can't.
This is their city.
They're running it.
They are part of a billion dollar financial ecosystem.
They're not going.
Anywhere and if we had the ability it's a quote-unquote move them or get rid of them We would now some are going to jail in prisons, but that's not working either because our jails and our prisons are overcrowded Let me let me separate to our prisons are overcrowded in California in 2012 the US Supreme Court ruled the California's overpopulation of their prisons
violated the cruel and unusual punishment clause of the U.S.
Constitution in California immediately had to start releasing inmates because they just couldn't keep up with the number of people that were going to prison.
And they were better than, I think there were 120, 125% of capacity in California, were 133% of capacity here in the state of Wisconsin.
So if some prison worker, prison guard, or some inmate says,
The conditions in XYZ prison are so bad and so overcrowded, it is a threat to our lives, which it actually is and their Supreme Court precedent.
So while some of you may want more of them locked up for longer, more of them are going to get released early and coming right back home.
Unless you are OK with building 10 or 15 more prisons to the tune of several billion dollars.
Now.
Tom Tiffany will oblige you in an absolute second.
In fact, he is waiting for black folks to say we need to build more prisons to lock up more black people.
He is chomping at the bit, but not right away because, you know, he was in a bit of an accident.
Tom Tiffany was in a plane and it went in the water and he got a cut.
He's fine.
Everybody relax.
He's back on the campaign trail.
He got 12 stitches and the pilot got four stitches.
That's 16 stitches between four people.
That's two people.
Not that many people.
16 stitches, two people.
That is a total of.
How many stitches is that 12 plus six plus?
What is how many stitches he got?
He got 12 plus
No bruises.
So you're getting a plane crash, no bruises, just a cut.
and he swam.
to
he got a
he broke the window before they got submerged.
Well, that's why he had the cutlass head.
He did he, you know, did a headbutt.
And then he broke the window and then you're making
Yeah, he uses head.
He headbutted out the window and then both the
him in the pilot, you know, swam to safety.
U.S.
Rep Tom Tiffany, a candidate for Wisconsin governor, wiped away tears and laugh while sharing how thankful he was on Sunday to survive a harrowing late night emergency landing into a lake of the small plane in which he was riding in.
The pilot said, quote, we're going down Tiffany and Republican told reporters that a downtown wall saw a firehouse.
Pull your seat belt tight.
I gave it a yank and pulled a good and tight.
It was probably 10 seconds later.
We hit the water Tiffany said he and the pilot Leonard bolts Remained on top of the plane in Lake Warsaw until it began sinking Before deciding to try and swim ashore.
He said they swim about 100 to 150 feet until they reach water shallow enough to stand in so Do they have a truck do you smell the exhaust in here?
No
I know the hearse is here.
A hearse?
Yeah, for the funeral.
You
You
it.
Huh?
I swear, you know, Zach's going to that funeral for the DJ.
I don't I don't smell
I'd smell because I think they're right here on the other side of this wall You don't smell that that's pure carbon monoxide.
What they do is they load the food trucks You're not smell that Didn't get your ass out of here I smell it I tell it smells like a Diesel exhaust pipe is coming right they've done this before we had to tell them because they idle the trucks while they unload it and the exhaust fumes come in the studio
And there's no windows in here.
So I'm... We go to break out, go outside.
Oh, no, we're gonna go to break right now and I'm gonna go out there.
I'm about to cuss them out.
Okay.
Over here losing feeling in my feet.
I'm tired of passing out on air.
And we got people calling.
Okay, callers, you hang on.
Let me go save my life real quick.
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Oh,
yeah.
Oh,
yeah.
Everything, everything, everything gonna be all right this morning.
Oh,
yeah.
You've got a new government called Trump is a Lot of people are frustrated right Donald Trump promised to come and clean it up get the immigrants out of here You're rid of all the DEI and all the affirmative action.
Oh, you have a new government.
This is what your new government looks like New don't always mean better ladies and gentlemen.
Let's talk to Let's try Sandra you're on one on one seven the truth.
How are you?
I'm just fine.
How are you today?
I'm doing good.
What's on your mind?
You and your topics and the money gets snipped out of the city and our city all run down and all that this stuff.
What if we go back to the era where we were doing real well, where the jobs were here?
You would find a job anywhere, because like I said, I'm up in age, so I could apply anywhere for a job.
but we still had to fight the racism because, you know, we had to have like urban leagues and all that stuff to help us get jobs equally, at least fairly.
But where do we go back to that part to build us to let the people know, especially young kids, how we got built up to a good point and how it got slotted?
Because that's when all the demolished started of the city.
You know, you started getting boarded up houses, raggedy streets.
They built this first way to take the white people out, and then they had to buses.
They could take in the city and get the job.
And so there's a lot going on to make sure we never got it here, because if we got it here, we probably would have been closer.
And then they would probably burn to death or deliver with water to get rid of us.
But I think it's really sad that we white people, first thing we say is lock them up and kill them.
or you know, the students, they need to be locked up in there.
Look, you got a president killing up a whole America.
I've never heard nobody say that.
You got white people shooting each other.
They don't say thoughts and prayers no more.
They give the gun people, they've been giving them more lax rules that anybody, a baby five-year-old could have a rifle.
Come on.
You know, there's so much garbage that's going on, and black people, whenever they say like Tom Tiffany, oh, we're going through the crime, he needs black faith.
So tell the people who y'all don't think because I'm educated.
I'm listening back.
They're going after your education.
They went after government employees.
We are educated.
They're going after the medical field where they come out, where you can't even get your treatment, your cancer.
Decides the stuff for going.
There's a whole lot of political mess and the biggest criminals are your political mess, especially up there in Washington.
DC with traffic, let's pass it.
We need to talk about them and get behind closed doors and get a strategy.
Okay, Sherman.
That's what I have to
say.
Okay, bye.
Bye.
Bye.
I like that one too.
We're always very nostalgic about the past.
You know, it wasn't this violin in the six days.
Alright, let's go back then.
Let's go back to Milwaukee making and manufacturing everything.
Let's go back to a whole bunch of breweries.
Let's go back to assembly lines.
Going back to manufacturing plant.
You think that's ever gonna come back?
Today is Monday.
Do you think you can make today Monday?
Yesterday, which was Sunday?
You cannot.
All you can do is hope and wait for this upcoming Sunday.
We can never go back.
Nostalgia only exists in history books and in our minds We can't go back That's and I don't want to diminish people that because I wax nostalgic to our members some time ago when things were I don't know better or our memories tend to Water down all of the negative.
I remember the 90s 90s was a great decade people were getting murdered in the 90s to
But all of a sudden I only remember the fun like oh, I wish we could go back to all the nightlife We had in the 90s.
There was a lot of murder going on back then too like a lot of murder routinely hundred and forty hundred and fifty hundred and sixty homicides between like the end of the 1980s in the middle of the 1990s We're averaging triple digit homicides every single year in the city of Milwaukee yet That's the time in which I whack nostalgia like oh, we should go back to no we can't we don't want to go back to that either Let's talk to
Al from Sherman Park you're on one on one seven the truth.
How are you?
I'm doing well How about yourself
doing good?
What's on your mind?
Well first I was gonna talk about the plane crash, but then I did want to mention about the prisons Why don't we just lock up the violent people and put the less violent people like thieves on house arrest or 100% we 100% we're contracting to send them out of state to like Texas
Very expensive.
But yeah, we're doing that too.
Well,
but you don't want to come those back around you robbing your house robbing and killing you.
They're going to get out.
Why do we
Well, I've known some felons.
They have turned their lives around and then there's some felons that do stupid stuff and go back.
don't turn their
Well, anyway, prison doesn't work
makes them better
Well, then that goes back to that.
Philosophy eliminate them.
You know what they do in Muslim countries.
I'm just saying we're nicer to them than the Muslim countries are
we are some of the most I'm Thoroughly convinced why we have so many homicides because at every level of black person Murder is an option They're killing each other on the streets, but then when I'm talking to y'all today Well, we got to get rid of them like you're the third or fourth person today.
So well, we got to get rid of them
Sometimes get rid
of them means
Not going to put them in concentration camps.
But then the other part of get rid of them is kill them.
So I see why they are murdering because they are literally doing and executing what we are talking about on Black Talk radio.
So I totally get it.
And at the
same time,
Well, people come up with the excuse there's nothing we can do with them.
And then the last resort would be a limiting.
Exactly.
That's what's happening on the street.
We, and I'm saying the big we, are not different than them because we want murder as a tool too.
They want to get rid of people that they have beefs with.
We have a beef with them because they're ruining our city.
They're making our property values go down.
They're using up all the police resources.
And so what's our solution?
Well, we got to kill them.
We got to get rid of them.
So we're not different than them.
Because they're not going to reform but anyway exactly the plane I Worked and travel and there's one thing I will never do is get on somebody's private little put put plane because when those planes run out of power Some people have the false impression that planes glide they glide like a rock Now when I worked and travel the large jets because we work with US scare US scare has so many crashes.
I'd never get on their planes voluntarily
But yeah, I don't know why Tom Tiffany would insist on flying around getting that car and drive around I bet he won't get another one of those little putt putt planes
I Bet he will all
All right,
Teacher and read and give them
logic Lost businesses and jobs economic damage goes beyond homeowners the Urban Institute research found that reductions in gun violence were associated with More new businesses more jobs greater retail activity fewer business closings and stronger neighborhood property appreciation in Washington researchers found that 10 fewer gunfire incidents in a single census tract
were associated with one additional business opening.
20 additional jobs in new businesses and $1.3 million in additional sales at a new business.
If there's 10 fewer gunfire incidents, that's what you get.
$1.3 million poured into the optimism and hope bucket.
Those numbers should not be directly transplanted onto Milwaukee, but they do illustrate that there is a mechanism.
Violence therefore produces an expense that never appears under a government budget line Businesses that never opened jobs that were never created houses that never appreciated and families that chose another neighborhood
Lost wages.
Violence removes people from the productivity economy in several directions simultaneously.
A shooting victim may lose weeks, months, or years of work.
A disabled victim may permanently leave the labor force and collect disability until the day of their death.
A homicide victim loses decades of potential earnings and tax revenue.
An incarcerated offender also leaves the labor force.
Family members often miss work caring for victims or attending court proceedings and funerals.
And taxpayers lose income, pay,
payroll, sales and other tax revenue.
The NICJR therefore attributes $88,352 and lost tax revenue alone to an average fatal Milwaukee shooting and another $12,369 for a non fatal shooting.
I've got one, two, three people on hold.
Why don't we take Marlin?
You're on one on one seven this truth.
How are you?
Good yourself doing
good.
Good, I think part of issue that we're having here is lack of empathy for people.
Um, we cannot tell people, you know, because you're poor, then we're going to just kill you or get rid of you because we're literally then we're just, um, we're just.
uh, condemning people because they're poor.
We're condemning poverty and that's not a good thing for our country either.
You know, and then the other people talk about, well, let's go back.
Like you just said is we can't go back because manufacturing ain't here like it used to be.
But you know, all the, all the industry that was here a long time ago is not here no more.
So you can't go back.
We can't go.
It would be nice to have, have place for people to work, but a lot of places.
People don't work because like you say education or lack of reading or whatever situation may be so we can't have that.
And just sending people to jail or prison is not smart.
There is a way we could do bring people nonviolent felons and do stuff for them because we spend like $100,000 per person every year that they're in prison.
So we took that money and invested it.
We, we will probably save a lot more money less, but, uh, but running prisons is big business because if you know all the prisons are on these little, little small towns and that spark industry in those towns.
So, you know, we got a lot of issues, but yeah.
Thank you sir.
All right.
When somebody gets shot, taxpayers do not merely pay for an ambulance and two police cars.
A single shooting can activate.
Are you ready for this?
911 dispatch, police patrol, fire slash EMS, emergency room, trauma surgery, detectives, forensic services, medical examiners, prosecutors, public defenders, courts, pretrial detention, trial, incarceration, probation, parole, victim compensation, counseling, and reentry services.
For some cases, government remains financially involved for decades.
That's why the $2 million price attached to a single homicide is plausible.
Even when, even though rather the visible response on the night of the shooting may cost only a few thousand dollars.
The larger Milwaukee number, if we combine the findings conceptually, not arithmetic wise, because there is some overlap, a reasonable picture emerges.
Anti-violence slash reentry slash victim services infrastructures, $175 million a year.
Direct government economic burden of shooting $744 million is the recent Milwaukee estimate.
Property value suppression, diminished investment, lost business activity, uncompensated household costs, trauma and lifetime productivity losses are not even fully captured.
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Let's talk to Nicole.
You're on 1-on-1-7 The Truth.
How are you?
I'm fine.
Thank you.
I want to touch on three things right quick.
One of your callers earlier said that they need to get rid of...
slum lords, renaissance and section eight.
I just want to be clear.
They have all those things in every county, every city, every state that does not negate the violence and all the other things that happen in Milwaukee.
The second thing is one of your callers said, I think he said he was a former, excuse me, white in and he said, you know, you just have to find your blissful piece and your little pocket of happiness.
But at the same time, how do you do that when you have crime?
all around you when you have people stealing cars, running on lights, high-speed chases, killing people.
And then the third thing I think I want to say is you caught the people who said that they should just kill them.
You know, you said they're on the killing train.
I think that what they're saying is there's no accountability.
At what point are people going to be held accountable?
Nothing is getting done.
It's just like a revolving door.
So there's no accountability.
So people are continually doing more crimes and nothing's going to change.
And then one more thing I want to add, you said, move away.
And I get that because I've done that.
However, what about the people who can't move away?
What if you're older and you built your life and you have your church, you have this and that?
You know, that's not a solution either.
I get what you're saying.
I get what you're coming from.
However, that's not a solution.
So my whole point and I want to end on this is there's just no accountability down to the DA.
You know, the court system, they don't hold people accountable.
There's no accountability.
So I understand where people are saying, just kill them.
And I don't think they physically mean I'm going to take a gun and kill them.
But you have all these programs and all these nonprofits as you just stated yourself that are popping up, but nothing is being done because it starts at the mind.
People want to keep making excuses and, you know, education is that people know right from wrong, period.
And that's it.
You know, so at a certain point we have to make.
These young people, people, whoever, accountable.
So that's all I wanted to say.
How are you doing today?
Well, in some cases, I'm with Militia.
In some cases, yeah, you might have to kill a couple of them.
I've been in prison before, so I'm talking from experience.
It's a couple of things that you have said that you said that prison doesn't work.
Actually, prison does work.
It's just that sometimes people just don't want to change because sometimes the excuse is better than the change.
You'll notice that people that have gotten out of prison is doing better than people that has never been to prison.
People that have gotten changed, they lie, they get up and do some things.
And it's a crazy thing that when I was in prison, I've seen it with my own eyes.
This is not something I'm saying from the sidelines.
A person to buy a long clock in jail to get up and go work in the kitchen for 40 cents an hour.
And I heard this with my own ears that say, I mean, on the streets, maybe crazy.
I'm gonna be working from those seven, 25 an hour.
I've seen this and I heard this.
It's a crazy thing that you will never see dirt, but you'll never see a dust ball in the prison cell.
Never.
You just don't see it.
You see people are unloading trucks.
You see them in their washing dishes.
You see them washing clothes.
You see them cutting grass, cutting trees, fixing cars, fixing the building up, doing work.
They do all of that stuff.
Now, when I say 40 cents an hour, that's the highest that you're going to pay.
It might be less than that.
But when they get out, they don't want to do that out here for those $7.25 an hour.
So the accountability needs to be this.
You either do this or you get that.
And here's another thing, and they sound extreme, but for people that don't want to change, once you've built an apartment building over there in the city of Delta, say, you can live here.
You can do whatever you want.
You can throw your trash out the window.
You can shoot and kill each other.
You can do whatever, because this is what you want to live at.
It may sound extreme, but sometimes that's what we may have to do.
I've been there before.
I shot three people.
That's why I went to jail.
And in my involvement, I should have never got out.
So what I did, and the reason why I say this is because I should have left it alone.
I should talk myself in the prison.
I should have left it alone.
And don't think.
Since I got out of prison that I'm not mad or I don't get upset, it's been a couple of people I want to slap their life out of their ass.
But I have to have some self control.
Just like when you see people shoot on the streets when they got these so-called anger issues and irritation issues along with this issue.
And Jill, all of a sudden, you know how to control yourself.
You don't hear about them slapping on their guards, beating up other inmates.
They don't have no riots, ain't no sexual assault.
They don't do none of that up in here.
No robbing, no stealing, no spending the block.
No crash now, none of that.
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My brother said, I shot three people and I never should have gotten out.
Sounds like he needs to be put down.
Oh, no, he's doing a lot.
Like when he tells his story.
He's got companies and landscaping businesses.
He employs people like he is one of the examples because earlier I said, okay, prison doesn't work because we have a recidivism problem.
He is one of the examples of prison working.
Also, there's other examples, but I think by and large, a certain kind of person is able to get rehabilitated easier than others.
One of the things that I do, but I am very strict and specific, is I write letters on behalf of people that are seeking pardons.
And I am happy to say that every time I've written a letter on behalf of someone seeking a pardon, they have gotten a full and unconditional.
But I don't do them for everybody.
But there are some people that...
that exhibit the qualities and the traits that we want them to have and they realize their full potential once they've served some time in confinement because maybe they're getting structure, maybe they're getting discipline, maybe they're having exposure to educational materials and they're getting their GED and they're getting their associates degree, things that we wish that they could have taken advantage of while they were out here, but maybe they were surrounded by or distracted by or in a family situation that did not allow for that.
But a question I would ask to just normal average everyday regular people.
What would you do if you had to feed your family and had no money?
No, no, no.
Answer me the question.
You can't go to a bank and get a loan.
You can't borrow no money from your family members.
You have no credit cards.
You have no bank account.
What are you going to do?
Your rent is due.
Your electricity is about to get shut off.
You got to feed three hungry babies.
You need brakes, tires, and gas for the car.
What are you going to do?
No, no, no.
Tell me what you're going to do.
And sitting and waiting is not an option.
And the check that you get, not enough.
You need breaks.
You need tires.
You need gas for the car.
You gotta feed these kids.
You gotta pay the rent.
You gotta pay your bills.
You don't got no credit cards.
You can't go to a bank.
And you can't ask any family members for money.
Once you answer...