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Today is Thursday, August 27, 2026.

I have a whole bunch of unrelated stuff.

I want to talk about Well, some of it is gonna be related, but I don't know.

We're gonna be all over the place today I never really talked about Dolly Parton.

She's dead.

She died from the cancers.

She's a She was a beloved country music star.

Her music was good.

She sang a song called Jolene and a couple other songs.

She also

1974 I will always love you and then Whitney Houston covered that song and then that song became so popular with the Whitney Houston cover of I Will Always Love You by the Dolly Parton that Dolly Parton made 10 million dollars in royalties from the Whitney Houston version of the 1974 classic I Will Always Love You and then what Dolly Parton did was simply amazing.

So at some point during today's program, I'm going to talk about

Not just the life and legacy of Dolly Parton, but Holy smokes that she'd do a lot of stuff for black people and she didn't even really want a lot of credit for it.

She did so many things.

There was a whole literacy project that she was involved in, which actually had a positive impact on children here in Wisconsin.

Oh, speaking of literacy and children here in Wisconsin.

See, I told you we got a bunch of unrelated stuff going on today.

The forward together for kids sponsored by City Forward Collective we're gonna do an episode today I believe at 11 o'clock Xavier did you get notification that we got a special guest coming in the studio?

All right, we're gonna talk about Teach for America and how representation Matters, but it really matters in the classroom, and you know our children that are going to school really need to see teachers

that look like them, while it may seem trivial to some of you, it is exceptionally important for young people and for students to see someone that they can actually culturally and racially relate to because it automatically makes the information that that teacher is delivering to that child just a little bit more credible.

And also, we have a major shortage of black African American teachers.

If you ask many of the children in the city,

And I would encourage you to do so.

What they want to do when they grow up.

Don't expect any reasonable answers.

But one thing you probably will not hear is I want to be a teacher.

We need more teachers.

We are very quick to tell people what fields they should go in.

A lot of adults and middle-aged people and some of you old people, you know, some of you geriatrics.

I love you geriatrics.

I'm damn near one of you.

But we'll look at our lives and we'll look back and think, wow, if I had a chance to do it all over again, I would have been a fill in the blank.

I would have been a plumber.

That I guess plumbers plum.

I would have been a electrician.

Someone would have said, because oh, they make so much money.

And I think what we do is we tell.

Young people because part of our responsibility as older folk is to guide the young people into a proper path because the hope is That the next generation does better than the previous that is not happening right now But I think a lot of us may look at our lives and say oh if I had a chance to do it all over again I would have gotten into the trades and we are very much encouraging young people to get into the trades

the amount of emails that I get an inbox messages that I get from people that are representing different spheres of the trade that always want to share either their job fairs or their apprenticeship programs.

It's actually quite a lot.

The problem is if you want our young people or whoever, young adults to get into the trades, we need people that can teach the trades.

Ladies and gentlemen, we need teachers that can teach the math because I don't know why we have.

Put trades employment and trades careers as like I don't want to say second tier But we make it seem like it's easy.

Oh, just go and get into the trades and you'll make a hundred and forty thousand dollars a year know the hell you won't not if you can't do math and Looking at the statistics and they're very consistent certainly more consistent than the damn market University Law School poll even though another one of those came out.

I don't like the market poll.

I Don't like it

I'm also not impressed by Marquette.

Which, whenever I say that it angers a lot of people, but what are they going to do?

They went to Marquette.

They can't fight.

That's why they went to Marquette.

I want you UWM.

We'll kick anybody's ass.

It's got David Crowley leading by five points.

There's math involved in polling.

There's math involved in sample sizes.

There's math involved in how you sample different representative groups.

There's math involved in counting voters and counting voter registration, but our young people don't know the math so very good.

So why are we telling the young people to get involved in the trades when they don't know the math very good?

You know, if you're an electrician and you don't know math very good, if you don't know the amperes and if you don't know the wattages and if you don't know the volts, you're going to get electrocuted.

Like in the cartoons, you're gonna touch two wires together You didn't get the volts right or the amps right or the wattages right and then you're gonna be electrocuted And then we're gonna be able to see your bones like in the cartoons when you get electrocuted We can automatically see your bones.

So we have to make sure we are doubling down on the basics So I'm gonna have Michael Nguyen in the studio.

He is the executive director of Teach for America Milwaukee.

He's gonna be joining us

For our forward together for kids segment at 11 o'clock and I want you guys to Certainly stick around and stay tuned for that because I'm looking forward to that conversation because you know what I think I Think that some of you would be really good teachers I Believe it or not Sherwin Hughes was on a track To be a college professor.

I know that's very shocking to some of you.

So when I was

finishing my degree from the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee.

There weren't very many high hopes professionally or a lot of opportunities for someone getting a degree in the study of society.

I have a Bachelor of Arts degree in Sociology and so we were offered a couple of things.

Now you got to keep in mind this is

better than a quarter century ago.

At the time, believe it or not, there was a particular category of employment where you could literally make your own salary because the demand was so high that they just wanted somebody who had some like a college degree of any kind and they would take you in this field and you literally could name your salary.

You could make your own hours, which was very, very unusual for the late 1990s and the year 2000 for those kinds of jobs to exist.

So we were offered all sorts of opportunities because by the time you're in your 400 and 500 level classes in college, then job opportunities start just showing up here.

Sign up here if you want to pay the internship doing this or sign up here if you want to pay the internship with this downtown Milwaukee Corporation.

I don't even know if they do that anymore.

All of our internships were paid.

If someone even would have suggested to us back then that internships were free and you get paid an experience, we would have laughed at you.

I got an internship my last year at UW Milwaukee that paid me $15 an hour in 1998.

Some people are still fighting for $15 an hour and it's almost 2027.

That is.

whole heartedly disappointed because $15 an hour.

Then he was okay now.

You had you had a couple of little dollars to throw around.

I was it was 20 hours a week.

$15 an hour.

That little nice little $320 every week that hit me right where it needed to hit me.

However, I digress.

The job was technical writing.

So that was the opportunities that were offered to us.

The other one was if you

Have your bachelor's degree in sociology All you would need was a minimum grade point average in your core Sociology classes you needed a 3.0 in your sociology classes, and then you would need three letters of recommendation From three of your sociology Professors and you could be admitted into the master's degree program which sets you up to eventually become

a professor at the university, any university, but specifically they wanted to retain sociology graduates to teach sociology and related fields at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee.

If you followed that track, you wouldn't have to take the GRE.

Do they still do the GRE?

The graduate record exam, or if you want to go to grad school, are you familiar with that exam?

A long time ago, if you wanted to go to grad school, just like if you wanted to...

get admitted into the colleges and the universities.

You have to take the ACT or you have to take the SAT.

The GRE was attested.

No matter what your field was, if you wanted to go to grad school, you had to take the GRE and then get a certain score.

Obviously, the higher the score, the more scholarship opportunities that were available to you.

But if you're a sociology student and you had at least a 3.0 in your core sociology classes,

and you got three letters of recommendation from professors, they would automatically admit you.

And I started on that track.

But then I got a job working for a member of Congress and I was like, screw this!

Screw you, UW Milwaukee and your sociology professorship.

Sometimes I think back and I was like, damn, I'd be retired by now probably.

Probably would have went on a sabbatical and did a whole bunch of research Studying many tribes in India.

Who knows where that world could have taken me but instead Alas I'm here with you.

I Have no regrets Technical writing.

I didn't really get to the details of that.

Check this out You guys familiar with what a technical writer is.

I don't know what happened to him now.

They've probably been replaced by AI

But in the late 1990s and in the early 2000s, you could get a job being a technical writer and the minimum salary that you would get was $100,000.

$100,000 if you don't have any dependence and you're a single person is a decent amount of money right now.

I would say that if you're a single person making 100 grand, you're OK in Milwaukee.

You can have your little nice car.

You probably can buy a house.

Take you a couple of little few vacations.

You can afford to go out to eat to a couple little few nice restaurants.

You can afford to go to shows and see live music.

$100,000 is nice.

It'll get you there.

It'll move the need a little bit.

Pay your little student loans back, have a little money left over to spare.

If you make $100,000 in the year 2026, $100,000 in 1998, I would be hanging out at the Playboy Mansion just throwing dollar bills and playmates, making $100,000 back then.

Money went way further back then.

but a technical writer is someone who writes instruction manuals.

So you know if you get like a, I don't know, like a new device, a new computer, some furniture that you have to put together.

Technical writers are the people that back in the day would script, they would send you the product, right?

And then you would sort out how you put the product together and then you would write up the manual.

And then that manual would get printed and reprinted and included in the boxes of whatever it was that needed to be assembled.

There were so few people that wanted to be technical writers that they were just going around to college campus.

Whoever these companies were, because if you have a, I don't know, a furniture company and you make the ready to assemble furniture, that company didn't also write the instruction manual on how you put it together.

They would contract out for it.

So that was a job that I consider but then I thought that probably sucks Because I would not know how to explain the intricate details of how you put certain things together because here's what I do I'm one of these kind of people I Buy something needs a little bit of assembly.

First of all, I don't like to assemble stuff because I just don't but whatever I Don't look at the instruction manual

I lay out all the pieces and I intuitively just start to assemble it.

I only refer to the instruction manual when I get stumped.

If I can't figure it out then I'll revert to the instruction manual and most of the time I am able to assemble things relatively

securely without needing the instruction manual because most things I may purchase that need to be assembled are fairly straightforward.

I will say this.

Do not ask me to help assemble your baby's crib because I have been asked to help people assemble a crib before.

Oh, I got it.

Don't worry about it.

Oh, go take care of whatever else you have to do around the house.

Good old Uncle Sherwin is going to take care of assembling the crib.

I wouldn't put a damn baby anywhere near a crib.

I had 17 parts left over, bolts, nuts, screws.

It was rickety.

I just wouldn't trust myself to put together a crib.

I said all that to say this.

The Jehovah's are coming to town.

Talked about that yesterday.

They're having their international convention here.

There's a story that appears in today's newspaper because apparently this is a very big deal.

I'm not quite as big a deal as Dolly Parton dying, but the Jehovah's having their international convention in Milwaukee is it's something significant and a good section of downtown central downtown streets are going to be closed for the duration of the convention.

Yesterday's program I talked a little bit about the Jehovah's they are They're an interesting sort not a very large congregation a very strict specific type of Christian They've got a hundred and twenty thousand different congregations all over the world, but only nine point two Million members worldwide so not not a huge congregation But like anyone else we welcome you here to the city of Milwaukee, but then there's something that they're doing that

I thought it was kind of cute when I talked about it yesterday, but then I had a chance to let it incubate a little bit and now I'm offended at this thing that the Jehovah's are doing ahead of their convention.

So I remarked, because they got here on Wednesday, some of them did.

There's some that are here ahead of the convention in order to prepare for the convention, which is in fact this weekend.

And the article that appears in today's journalism, I'd imagine the journal and other local news media outlets are going to cover the Jehovah's the entire time they're here.

Lucky us.

If I was a door, I wouldn't feel safe because you're going to get knocked.

Why are thousands of volunteers scrubbing downtown Milwaukee clean?

They're literally going around and they're like cleaning the city, the city.

They're cleaning downtown downtown is one of the cleanest parts of the city of Milwaukee every night again You might find a little bit of Debris You might find a little a little potato chip bag here every so often you may find the backwoods blunt wrapper Maybe every so often you might is our city not clean enough for you Who do you think you are you don't got to come here and clean are we clean the city?

We got street sweepers

You want to clean come back in the springtime when Tory Lowe does his cleanup?

We'll give you something to clean up.

Yeah, you ain't got to get here early clean They're basically saying ill Milwaukee you dirty heathens we got to come Several days ahead of our international convention because we don't like the way you keep your house I Witness the fight once between a wife and a mother-in-law.

It was the most fierce thing I've ever seen in my entire life You know what I should do I should take a break come back and tell you

About this story because let me tell you something.

I feel like that scorned wife Sherwin is gonna tell you how he With the Jehovah's getting here ahead of the convention to make sure the city is clean enough To have their convention here.

I'm offended by that What Milwaukee's not clean enough for you should have tried Chicago if you don't think that we're clean enough should have tried Detroit.

We're very clean.

We're spotless here.

We smell like ivory soap

here in Milwaukee.

Well, some some of us don't but but I'm offended.

I'm so offended that I have a Halloween costume idea and it does involve Jehovah's Witness.

So here's what I need.

I'm going to take a break.

I always say I'm going to take a break and then I don't.

I need a woman between the ages of preferably 35 and 55 to be the part two of my two part Halloween costumes.

So if there are any ladies between the ages.

35 and 55 we can go thin build we can go medium build we can even go heavy set but I need a woman between the ages of 35 and 55 who is available the entire Halloween weekend because my costume involves

two parts one part me one part you and we're going to clean up we're going to go to every goddamn Halloween contest in this city and we're going to make sure that we enter all the ones with a cash prize and we're going to get rich but I need a woman with 28 is the 35 and 55 don't be 57 years old you're too old and don't show me no fake ID don't be 62 years old and show me a fake saying you're 48

lady be linda here's your chance

hold on no look you need to relax I know I don't know no no no

No wolves of the book of variety sir, none of those.

Oh, I thought they're very nice looking one.

I

don't know not name.

I don't know I don't I don't first of all I don't objectify women all women are be yes in your photos and ladies all women are bebe Ladies quick question.

I really got to take a break.

I did I'm way over time Do y'all nag each other or just us?

So while you think about that also by the way eggs are not dairy the truth with sure when he was a be right back

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If you ever want to know what 1991 sounds like, this.

Take me back.

The world is so crazy.

So here is the biggest fight that I have ever witnessed between a mother-in-law and a wife.

Now this is traditional woman stuff traditional wife stuff.

This is trad wife stuff So a lot of y'all are not gonna be able to relate to this because You know expecting a traditional wife is insane nowadays because how dare you right?

The mother-in-law They just the couple just had a baby fairly recently and so the mother-in-law was

Coming over to to help To help with the baby sometimes that's what mother-in-laws do they help they help with things around the house because you know a new mother new parents Especially if it's their first child can be very overwhelmed and it can be very stressful In fact, it can be so stressful.

We come to find out That you know women can be so overwhelmed By the postpartum that they may murder their kids so we want to make sure

that the mothers are getting all the help they need.

Xavier, you would like to add something to the discussion.

Yeah, the judge on that case today, he told the jury to go in to their decision making with an open mind about the wife or the murderer.

Unbelievable that the judge is tainting the jury like that.

Yes.

He stood in front of him, gave a speech and everything.

Go into it with an open mind.

It's either She ain't gonna get it quit it It's gonna be either a hung Jury or Solidly guilty there's gonna be somebody on that jury that's gonna be like nah she killed her kids she sent the husband and go run errands and Made sure the errands would take long enough so she had time

to killer kids so Anyways You got to make sure that the women are not overwhelmed and so the mother-in-law Comes over to be helpful, right?

There's always a very unusual even if people don't want to admit it relationship between the wife and the mother-in-law a lot of times because

Mamas don't think any woman is good enough for her boy, right?

There's always a weird kind of tension However, I digress The mother-in-law comes over doesn't even really say hello to anybody just walks in the house like it's her house because sometimes mother-in-laws can feel a heavy sense of ownership over anything that their son is involved in her son's house even though it's her son

and his wife's house, the mother-in-law, she walks in front, doors open, what does she start doing?

Amelia starts cleaning, starts cleaning up in the kitchen, start putting stuff away in the kitchen.

And the mother, the mother-in-law, or I'm sorry, the wife, they're just like, yo, what are you?

And then the argument ensues because it was assumed that the wife,

Doesn't keep a clean enough house.

So the mother-in-law starts to clean Anyway, even though the house and I was there.

I was like this is not bad.

I Had no business being there because I certainly wasn't gonna help with the baby because no thanks But then it was hey, hey, what do you what are you doing?

Oh, no, I just this is this over here is disgusting and who left the kitchen like this and now these two women

Are arguing this is what I feel like I feel like That overwhelmed wife who's trying to keep it all together and keep the house straight and you got a new baby And of course you got to deal with your spouse and everything else that life brings with it and then to see someone essentially Degrade you and demean how clean you keep your house is very very offensive These Jehovah's Witnesses

Coming to Milwaukee ahead of their convention this weekend, which is gonna block off by half a downtown You ain't gonna be able to get to the places you need to get to and thankfully it's over a weekend because the area surrounding the 3rd Street Market Hall.

Oh, that's gonna be blocked off Joe Laffenburg was born and raised in fonds.

You lack of Wisconsin to a family that has practiced the Jehovah's Witness Faith Fort generations

and community service is deeply rooted in his life.

He has cleaned windows prior to a convention in Green Bay.

He's provided public ministry to neighbors in Fond du Lac.

On Wednesday morning, August 26th, Laffenburg, age 46,

was one of ten volunteers sweeping and picking up trash inside the 330 west well street parking garage ahead of the religious groups 2026 international convention at the baird center this weekend from august 28th through august 30th quote my family and I saw all that were coming to Milwaukee and thought what a nice opportunity to clean and give Jehovah's witnesses the best possible view of the city hold on dog

What you mean the best possible view of the city?

Why don't you go to the top of the fister?

Go to blue on the 23rd floor.

There's a beautiful view of the city.

In fact, Milwaukee skyline is really starting to take shape.

You know how I describe Milwaukee skyline?

Because if you are in one of the many places in this city where you can get a good view, Milwaukee is very beautiful.

It's like we're getting breasts.

Like our skyline is hitting puberty.

If you come across the home bridge and it's a beautiful picturesque view from ear to ear if you're maybe at blue It's really nice if you're out on a boat.

I highly encourage you to get on a boat.

I hope you have a friend

with a boat because a friend with a boat is a very good friend indeed and go out.

Oh, I don't know.

About a half a mile offshore and just look at how beautiful and majestic Milwaukee skyline is.

And if you look to the north, you'll see a St.

Mary's Hospital.

This beautiful white building and it's and it's built on a bluff.

St.

Mary's Hospital.

It's a wonderful, wonderful place to die.

If you have to know, I'm saying if you need to die somewhere that's very pleasant and quiet.

I highly recommend St.

Mary's Hospital.

It's where you should go and die and you can see it as a part of the Milwaukee skyline as it kind of fills out the enclave known as Milwaukee's East Side.

It's beautiful.

I think this is a very impressive city.

I think Milwaukee Punch is way above its weight.

You know what I did yesterday?

I went to one of my favorite restaurants.

Not gonna tell you which one it is.

Don't need to see any of you there.

Let me tell you why it's one of my favorite restaurants because for some reason No one goes there for lunch people go there on the weekends People go there for brunch on Sundays.

They got a very nice Sunday fun day.

They sometimes have live music People go for happy hour, but they don't ever go for lunch and sometimes when I have lunch I don't want to see people the only people I want to see is my server So I went to my little favorite little spot and I was feeling just I felt real good yesterday.

I felt real

motivated and optimistic and then I went to my favorite park.

Lakeshore State Park.

They're actually having an event this weekend.

So if you don't want to be bothered with the Jehovah's or if you don't want to help the Jehovah's pick up much trash around the city, which I find very embarrassing.

Y'all ain't even got here yet.

You have any, just you're going to send some people just ahead of time to clean up the city.

I don't, that's very offensive.

We keep a very clean city.

feel like that wife whose mother-in-law just walks in the house and just starts cleaning up basically saying oh you don't keep a clean enough house we need to clean it ourselves but also don't men get accused of this too if a woman says hey honey can you help around the house can you clean up a little bit and men I think men do a great job of cleaning we get it done we're efficient when we clean but if we don't clean to the standard of a woman then she thinks that it's weaponized in competence y'all got to chill with that

Man might be loading or unloading the dishwasher, but if he's not loading or unloading the dishwasher the way the woman would do it What does she do though?

Just stop I'll just stop putting the dishes away.

I'll do it.

I can't stand that's why we don't want to marry on It's like the only way and that's an OCD thing.

I think Some women think that the only way To do something is the way that they do it and if it's done slightly differently it gives them anxiety

Honey, you need medication.

You should be happy that we even want to help around the house.

Here's the other thing I'm coming to find out.

Y'all gonna get mad at me today.

Mind as well.

I'm used to it.

Being a stay-at-home parent is not hard.

Go pour concrete and go cut bricks 80 hours a week and tell me which job you'd rather have.

I'd love to be a stay-at-home daddy.

I'd make all the meals.

I'd do all the laundry.

Everything would be...

Put all the dishes away the house would be clean and then I take a nap and to me and the babies will read stories And we'll just we'll have snack time, you know put little goldfish crackers and a little plastic plastic baggy It's so hard try dealing with a boss.

That's racist 40 hours a week.

I'm gonna take a break come back You're listening to the truth with sure when he was on one on one seven FM.

I'll be right back

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On Wednesday morning, August 26, Joe Laffenberg, age 46, was one of 10 volunteers sweeping and picking up trash inside the 330 West Wells Parking Street garage.

West Wells Street Parking Garage.

Ahead of the religious groups, 2026 International Convention is going to be held at the Baird Center this weekend from August 28th through August 30th.

And I want to let you guys know about the street closures.

I'll give you those streets in just a moment.

Joe goes on to say, my family and I saw that all were coming to Milwaukee and thought, what a nice opportunity to clean the city, to give Jehovah's Witnesses the best view of the city.

Laffenberg said, it's priceless, a once in a lifetime experience, and it hasn't even started yet.

Laffenberg was among.

Hundreds of other volunteers wearing blue vests that began a quote general cleanup on August 26 targeting 17 parking lots near the convention center The cleanup effort laughing Burke said is a major part of the volunteer based religious groups faith Serving as an appreciation to the conventions host city Milwaukee, they're here at the market hall you gonna see

Tell you what Jehovah's Come knock on my door.

I'll let you in show you where the vacuum is the broom What do you call the thing the thing that you sweep You got a broom and then you have the thing that you sweep the dust into a dustpan.

There you go Earlier this week volunteers

Pressure wash the walls and the streets near the Baird Center.

It's all spotless over there.

Come on, y'all.

Listen, don't y'all have... I guess you can't really do a lot of door knocking downtown because that's a lot of apartments and condos and they're not buzzing you in.

I will.

I know you will.

You want... What if it's a bunch of dudes though?

Because I know you want to try and turn out a Jehovah's woman.

Once

you guys coming into my house

Would you let them in?

You know you wouldn't let the guys in you just want the girls to come in.

Yeah, I know this much because I know Well, I told you guys about Scorpio She is a she left the faith There's something about The repression like sexual repression from being in one of these

Really really super duper strict religions that when people Break away from it and it's a tremendous sacrifice and I cannot Like overstate this if you are able to leave the Jehovah's faith You you're sacrificing everything you've ever known you're sacrificing your family like your mother and father

They can't talk to you anymore.

Your siblings, your uncles, your aunts, your entire community basically abandons you.

It's really horrible.

You're out there in the world completely on your own.

But then when people decide that that's what they want to do and they take that step, the freedom, you're reborn again because you're not constrained by the confines of this very, very strict interpretation of the Bible.

And they just they explore the world through brand new eyes.

And I was fortunate enough to meet Scorpio.

Like she had been out for a couple of years, but still a lot of things were new.

Like her husband wouldn't let her do nothing.

She had babies at 19.

She couldn't do anything.

But then when she finally left sometime in her late 30s and she was able to explore, I caught her at the right time.

Sounds like fun to me.

I asked her if she had ever been to because I have a list of restaurants that are must go to's in Milwaukee.

And I asked her if she had ever been.

I got it.

It's like 15 that she just, you got to go summer night, summer, you know, kind of average summer, just authentically Milwaukee.

She hadn't been to any of them.

I was like, oh, honey, we got to go eat.

And how appreciative she was that I took her to one of these restaurants.

It was just, it was amazing that she just, she started to share with me.

How difficult the life actually was because you can't be a free thinker.

You can't be an independent thinker.

You can't be a critical thinker and still adhere to some of the most strict pieces of that of that religion, especially when it comes to your role as a wife.

I think it's very healthy for every relationship, for every marriage, for the wife to cuss the husband out every now and again.

Just not a lot, not don't.

Life, if he comes home with glitter on him, then.

You know what I mean?

Then, of course, ladies express yourself.

But she just had to keep keep everything in.

And then there was another there's another friend of mine who I just found out fairly recently that he left the life.

I didn't know that he was ever a Jehovah.

And that's where he came from.

And then somebody a mutual friend was like, oh, sure.

When you know, so and so used to be a Jehovah.

I was like, word.

You would have never guessed it.

And a lot of you know who this person is.

He's kind of Milwaukee famous, whatever the hell that means.

I'm not sure what Milwaukee famous even really means.

Speaking of Milwaukee famous, there is yet another story about the backlash to the garage, the bar on Brady and Arlington.

And there is a new story where one of the popular.

Milwaukee artists Ishmael Ali known as Ishtar.

He's a local Milwaukee artist and on the list of three dozen plus artists that the garage no longer wants played as a part of DJ's set list.

It said explicitly no Milwaukee artists.

Well, local news affiliate CBS 58 did an interview with.

Ishtar Ishmael Ali is his name Ishtar is his rap hip-hop name, I suppose And I want to play a little taste.

We're not gonna do it right now I'm gonna take a break come back and we'll play it on the other side and I want to use it as an example So I don't know what ishtar I know ishtar is like the goddess like a female goddess of femininity and fertility while black man, but it's not his name is ishtar

But maybe that's a play on ish tar because I never I never understand some of the names that people pick for themselves like Charlemagne the God Who I hate because he is

a gossip columnist that needs to get his face punched in.

I I hate people like that.

I hate people that have the opportunity to provide good information to a large audience and all he does is he gossips like a teenage girl.

So many and he's almost gotten his ass kicked a few times.

But Charlemagne, you know who Charlemagne is?

Charlemagne is.

It was the father of modern Europe who lived in the year 800.

Why would your black ass name yourself after the father of modern Europe?

I want to punch Charlemagne in the face just because of that.

And while I'm punching faces, Roland Martin can get some too.

I guess Roland Martin got caught cheating recently.

And is wearing some leopard print underwear.

I like I like rolling Martin

and let me see I wish he would come back to Milwaukee Hope he shows up with the Jehovah's.

It's gonna be me and him if I see rolling Martin It's gonna be some furniture moving in this mother father.

You said they caught him with some leather panties

Leper skin underwear.

Who

cares?

He was not with his wife.

So no, you ain't supposed to cheat.

Oh, yeah But he always preaches this holier than now stuff like come on

All the people that preach the whole like I know damn well that I'm not ever gonna preach holier than now cuz I'm sinnier than now.

I sin Oh my god ain't nothing like it feels good cuz I don't want to have to wait like I don't want to die to get my heaven Why everybody else got to get their heaven everybody else gets their heaven on earth

You believe in heaven?

Yeah, cuz I can create it right here on earth.

Yeah, I think when we die it just goes to black

Believe I believe in many things.

I think the religions there's something in every world religion That has a premise that is worth embracing for humanity to just To be better and to realize it's full potential like the Jews have some good things and the Christians have some good things and the beloved the Muslims have some good things Bismillah inshallah

Would you say

I said I love halal food

What's the difference it's just blessed isn't it's not is it prepared?

It's the way they raise the cows and stuff like that You know, it's not like brutal, you know, and it's better quality meat

Whatever, I don't care how my cow was raised.

I just wanted to look right when it's on my plate Oh, by the way, eggs are not dairy.

Why are you all arguing with me about that?

Eggs are not because they put eggs in the dairy section does not mean that eggs are dairy

Dairy are products that come from cows milk.

Chickens lay eggs.

A chicken.

Is not a cow.

Malcolm X said if a cat has babies in the oven or they biscuits or kittens, just because you put eggs in the dairy section doesn't mean that I'm over here arguing with somebody.

Cherry just eggs.

Yes, they are dairy.

How you went to NPS, didn't you buddy?

How you know?

It's obvious.

The truth with Sherwin Hughes on 101.7 FM is going to come back.

And when we come back, we're going to play you a little bit of an interview from one of the Milwaukee rappers whose music is not allowed to be played at the garage.

And once you hear the interview, you're probably going to understand why.

Don't go anywhere.

I'll be right back.

The truth with Sherwin Hughes returns after this on 1017 the truth the truth app and 1017 the truth comm You are listening to the truth with Sherwin Hughes on 1017 the truth the truth app and 1017 the truth comm

Mild the Elephant says, Sherwin, I want you in a boxing match against Roland.

I do too.

Gladly.

Set it up.

I'll promote it here on 101.7 The Truth.

We'll put it on the poly market.

Put it on the bedding sites.

I got that ass.

His head is so big, it's such an easy target.

You know what I mean?

Like I just.

He probably has a strong chin though.

He's got to have a strong chin to hold up all that head.

He can't be that bad.

You don't like him that much.

He came here and he disrespected the etiquette that exists.

If you have your own platform and you go on somebody else's platform, there is there's unspoken rules of how you conduct yourself.

And I observe those rules.

Every now and again, Sherwin will appear on somebody else's radio show.

Stopped in the morning show with Homer and Bailey in fact all of the shows that we've ever had here one on one seven the truth at some point in time I've always stopped in even though I've had my own show on different radio stations for a very very long time if I am a guest on somebody else's show it's their show

I'm a passenger.

I'm second fiddle.

I speak when I'm spoken to.

I keep my answers truncated and succinct.

Roland Martin's big head-ass got on my microphone and thought it was his show.

And I'm giving him the visual cues.

I'm like, hey, man, hey, man, just bring it back.

Land a plane, Roland, land a plane.

And then another thing.

And then on my show, we go.

I could feel it was such a sweet.

Sweet daydream of my hands.

Tightening around that fat ass necklace.

I just and I drifted off into a place of bliss.

It was so bad and he was here because I guess he was doing some I don't know.

Some of them promoting Kamala Harris, which clearly didn't work as Kamala lost.

Can you play the

The video clip, a little brief interview of Milwaukee rapper Ishadar when he had his little conversation with CBS 58 regarding the garage and him being an artist that is no longer being played there.

A popular Brady Street bar could temporarily close after a no playlist sparked backlash from local artists.

Andy Bernhard has the story and reaction.

You can see it behind me.

The garage remains closed and has been for several days after a list sparked controversy for banning certain artists.

Ishmael

Ali's passion is his music, something he loves to share with the Milwaukee community.

So when Ishmael was at one of his favorite bars, the garage on Brady Street, he was shocked and disturbed at what he found.

And

I look down and I just see the duct tape and the list and I'm like, oh,

This is real

he says the list at the DJ booth had several black artists listed on a no playlist Including a note saying no Milwaukee rap bolded in all caps.

I feel like a slap in the face to us Like I said being black myself being an artist It's kind of like a

I don't know if it was a do not enter sign or like it made it kind of just standoffish to us.

The garage responded on social media saying they spoke with the employee who issued the list which was not approved by ownership saying it was not acceptable.

The bar says its intention was to eliminate music with lyrics referencing violence or guns but a list of artists was the wrong approach.

At this time we need to you know be together.

I feel like from the establishment to the artist just creating a better environment for all of us.

Sources tell CB

The owners of the bar sent out a message to employees saying the bar will be closed for two weeks with compensation.

CBS 58 did reach out to the garage for more information on the closure and plans moving forward but did not receive a response yet.

In Milwaukee, Andy Bernhardt, CBS 58 News.

So in that little brief interview, here's what troubles me about that.

He couldn't.

You could not use profanity like dude.

Here's an opportunity for you to represent yourself well and to push back on this venue That is not playing your music because of its vulgarity and you can't Not cuss with a CBS 58 local news camera in front of your face and shout out to DJ brother Z He is in the the YouTube chat and before we play the clip because I gave a little like a little

Preface to the to the clip Zack said no ishtar slander will be tolerated Zack you were the biggest stickler for profanity on terrestrial media that I've ever met my entire life like Al is currently banned for a profanity that Al didn't even say because it sounded like Al said a profanity and This local Milwaukee rapper could not choose any other word than sugar, honey iced tea

Well, and they had to bleep it out and that makes him look bad.

Now, I also know that the standard is probably low because someone who, you know, is a local artist or a rapper, whatever, probably does not do a lot of media and obviously for good reason.

But I just think it was it was a poor presentation because when you think about it, it is unfair to local artists.

If you look at it from their perspective, I think in the grand scheme of things, when it comes to business and business ownership.

They have the full right to decide what does and does not get played and who does and does not get booked at their venues.

But the fact that he used profanity on a local media interview, it kind of proves the point.

The truth with Sherwin

Hughes will be back for hour two.

He turns the dark into blazing bright.

Today is Thursday, August 27, 2026.

I have a whole bunch of unrelated stuff.

I want to talk about Well, some of it is gonna be related, but I don't know we're gonna be all over the place today I never really talked about Dolly Parton.

She's dead.

She died from the cancers.

She's a She was a beloved country music star.

Her music was good.

She sang a song called Jolene and a couple other songs.

She also

1974 I will always love you and then Whitney Houston covered that song and then that song became so popular with the Whitney Houston cover of I Will Always Love You by the Dolly Parton that Dolly Parton made 10 million dollars in royalties from the Whitney Houston version of the 1974 classic I Will Always Love You and then what Dolly Parton did was simply amazing.

So at some point during today's program, I'm going to talk about

Not just the life and legacy of Dolly Parton, but holy smokes that she'd do a lot of stuff for black people and she didn't even really want a lot of credit for it.

She did so many things.

There was a whole literacy project that she was involved in, which actually had a positive impact on children here in Wisconsin.

Oh, speaking of literacy and children here in Wisconsin.

See, I told you we got a bunch of unrelated stuff going on today.

The forward together for kids sponsored by City Forward Collective we're gonna do an episode today I believe at 11 o'clock Xavier did you get notification that we got a special guest coming in the studio?

All right, we're gonna talk about Teach for America and how representation Matters, but it really matters in the classroom, and you know our children that are going to school really need to see teachers

that look like them, while it may seem trivial to some of you, it is exceptionally important for young people and for students to see someone that they can actually culturally and racially relate to because it automatically makes the information that that teacher is delivering to that child just a little bit more credible.

And also, we have a major shortage of black African American teachers.

If you ask many of the children in the city,

And I would encourage you to do so.

What they want to do when they grow up.

Don't expect any reasonable answers.

But one thing you probably will not hear is I want to be a teacher.

We need more teachers.

We are very quick to tell people what fields they should go in.

A lot of adults and middle-aged people and some of you old people, you know, some of you geriatrics.

I love you geriatrics.

I'm damn near one of you.

But we'll look at our lives and we'll look back and think wow if I had a chance to do it all over again, I would have been a Fill in the blank.

I would have been a plumber That I guess plumbers plum I Would have been a electrician someone would have said because oh they make so much money and I think what we do is we tell

Young people because part of our responsibility as older folk is to guide the young people into a proper path because the hope is That the next generation does better than the previous that is not happening right now But I think a lot of us may look at our lives and say oh if I had a chance to do it all over again I would have gotten into the trades and we are very much encouraging young people to get into the trades

the amount of emails that I get an inbox messages that I get from people that are representing different spheres of the trade that always want to share either their job fairs or their apprenticeship programs.

It's actually quite a lot.

The problem is if you want our young people or whoever, young adults to get into the trades, we need people that can teach the trades.

Ladies and gentlemen, we need teachers that can teach the math because I don't know why we have.

Put trades employment and trades careers as like I don't want to say second tier But we make it seem like it's easy.

Oh, just go and get into the trades and you'll make a hundred and forty thousand dollars a year know the hell you won't not if you can't do math and Looking at the statistics and they're very consistent certainly more consistent than the damn market University Law School poll even though another one of those came out.

I don't like the market poll.

I Don't like it

I'm also not impressed by Marquette.

Which, whenever I say that it angers a lot of people, but what are they going to do?

They went to Marquette.

They can't fight.

That's why they went to Marquette.

I want you UWM.

We'll kick anybody's ass.

It's got David Crowley leading by five points.

There's math involved in polling.

There's math involved in sample sizes.

There's math involved in how you sample different representative groups.

There's math involved in counting voters and counting voter registration, but our young people don't know the math so very good.

So why are we telling the young people to get involved in the trades when they don't know the math very good?

You know, if you're an electrician and you don't know math very good, if you don't know the amperes and if you don't know the wattages and if you don't know the volts, you're going to get electrocuted.

Like in the cartoons, you're gonna touch two wires together You didn't get the volts right or the amps right or the wattages right and then you're gonna be electrocuted And then we're gonna be able to see your bones like in the cartoons when you get electrocuted We can automatically see your bones.

So we have to make sure we are doubling down on the basics So I'm gonna have Michael Nguyen in the studio.

He is the executive director of Teach for America Milwaukee.

He's gonna be joining us

For our forward together for kids segment at 11 o'clock and I want you guys to Certainly stick around and stay tuned for that because I'm looking forward to that conversation because you know what I think I Think that some of you would be really good teachers I Believe it or not Sherwin Hughes was on a track To be a college professor.

I know that's very shocking to some of you.

So when I was

finishing my degree from the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee.

There weren't very many high hopes professionally or a lot of opportunities for someone getting a degree in the study of society.

I have a Bachelor of Arts degree in Sociology and so we were offered a couple of things.

Now you got to keep in mind this is

better than a quarter century ago.

At the time, believe it or not, there was a particular category of employment where you could literally make your own salary because the demand was so high that they just wanted somebody who had some like a college degree of any kind and they would take you in this field and you literally could name your salary.

You could make your own hours, which was very, very unusual for the late 1990s and the year 2000 for those kinds of jobs to exist.

So we were offered all sorts of opportunities because by the time you're in your 400 and 500 level classes in college, then job opportunities start just showing up here.

Sign up here if you want to pay the internship doing this or sign up here if you want to pay the internship with this downtown Milwaukee Corporation.

I don't even know if they do that anymore.

All of our internships were paid.

If someone even would have suggested to us back then that internships were free and you get paid an experience, we would have laughed at you.

I got an internship my last year at UW Milwaukee that paid me $15 an hour in 1998.

Some people are still fighting for $15 an hour and it's almost 2027.

That is.

whole heartedly disappointed because $15 an hour.

Then he was okay now.

You had you had a couple of little dollars to throw around.

I was it was 20 hours a week.

$15 an hour.

That little nice little $320 every week that hit me right where it needed to hit me.

However, I digress.

The job was technical writing.

So that was the opportunities that were offered to us.

The other one was if you

Have your bachelor's degree in sociology all you would need was a minimum grade point average in your core Sociology classes you needed a 3.0 in your Sociology classes, and then you would need three letters of recommendation from three of your Sociology professors and you could be admitted into the master's degree program which sets you up to eventually become a

a professor at the university, any university, but specifically they wanted to retain sociology graduates to teach sociology and related fields at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee.

If you followed that track, you wouldn't have to take the GRE.

Do they still do the GRE?

The graduate record exam, or if you want to go to grad school, are you familiar with that exam?

A long time ago, if you wanted to go to grad school, just like if you wanted to...

get admitted into the colleges and the universities.

You have to take the ACT or you have to take the SAT.

The GRE was attested.

No matter what your field was, if you wanted to go to grad school, you had to take the GRE and then get a certain score.

Obviously, the higher the score, the more scholarship opportunities that were available to you.

But if you're a sociology student and you had at least a 3.0 in your core sociology classes,

and you got three letters of recommendation from professors, they would automatically admit you.

And I started on that track.

But then I got a job working for a member of Congress, and I was like, screw this!

Screw you, UW Milwaukee and your sociology professorship.

Sometimes I think back and I was like, damn, I'd be retired by now, probably.

Probably would have went on a sabbatical and did a whole bunch of research Studying many tribes in India.

Who knows where that world could have taken me but instead Alas I'm here with you.

I Have no regrets Technical writing.

I didn't really get to the details of that.

Check this out You guys familiar with what a technical writer is.

I don't know what happened to him now.

They've probably been replaced by AI

But in the late 1990s and in the early 2000s, you could get a job being a technical writer and the minimum salary that you would get was $100,000.

$100,000 if you don't have any dependence and you're a single person is a decent amount of money right now.

I would say that if you're a single person making 100 grand, you're OK in Milwaukee.

You can have your little nice car.

You probably can buy a house, take you a couple of little few vacations.

You can afford to go out to eat to a couple little few nice restaurants.

You can afford to go to shows and see live music.

$100,000 is nice.

It'll get you there.

It'll move the need a little bit.

Pay your little student loans back, have a little money left over to spare.

If you make $100,000 in the year 2026, $100,000 in 1998, I would be hanging out at the Playboy Mansion just throwing dollar bills and playmates, making $100,000 back then.

Money went way further back then.

but a technical writer is someone who writes instruction manuals.

So you know if you get like a, I don't know, like a new device, a new computer, some furniture that you have to put together.

Technical writers are the people that back in the day would script, they would send you the product, right?

And then you would sort out how you put the product together and then you would write up the manual.

And then that manual would get printed and reprinted and included in the boxes of whatever it was that needed to be assembled.

There were so few people that wanted to be technical writers that they were just going around to college campus.

Whoever these companies were, because if you have a, I don't know, a furniture company and you make the ready to assemble furniture, that company didn't also write the instruction manual on how you put it together.

They would contract out for it.

So that was a job that I consider but then I thought that probably sucks Because I would not know how to explain the intricate details of how you put certain things together because here's what I do I'm one of these kind of people I Buy something needs a little bit of assembly.

First of all, I don't like to assemble stuff because I just don't but whatever I Don't look at the instruction manual

I lay out all the pieces and I intuitively just start to assemble it.

I only refer to the instruction manual when I get stumped.

If I can't figure it out then I'll revert to the instruction manual and most of the time I am able to assemble things relatively

securely without needing the instruction manual because most things I may purchase that need to be assembled are fairly straightforward.

I will say this.

Do not ask me to help assemble your baby's crib because I have been asked to help people assemble a crib before.

Oh, I got it.

Don't worry about it.

Oh, go take care of whatever else you have to do around the house.

Good old Uncle Sherwin is going to take care of assembling the crib.

I wouldn't put a damn baby anywhere near a crib.

I had 17 parts left over, bolts, nuts, screws.

It was rickety.

I just wouldn't trust myself to put together a crib.

I said all that to say this.

The Jehovah's are coming to town.

Talked about that yesterday.

They're having their international convention here.

There's a story that appears in today's newspaper because apparently this is a very big deal.

I'm not quite as big a deal as Dolly Parton dying, but the Jehovah's having their international convention in Milwaukee is it's something significant and a good section of downtown central downtown streets are going to be closed for the duration of the convention.

Yesterday's program I talked a little bit about the Jehovah's they are They're an interesting sort not a very large congregation a very strict specific type of Christian They've got a hundred and twenty thousand different congregations all over the world, but only nine point two Million members worldwide so not not a huge congregation But like anyone else we welcome you here to the city of Milwaukee, but then there's something that they're doing that

I thought it was kind of cute when I talked about it yesterday, but then I had a chance to let it incubate a little bit and now I'm offended at this thing that the Jehovah's are doing ahead of their convention.

So I remarked, because they got here on Wednesday, some of them did.

There's some that are here ahead of the convention in order to prepare for the convention, which is in fact this weekend.

And the article that appears in today's journalism, I'd imagine the journal and other local news media outlets are going to cover the Jehovah's the entire time they're here.

Lucky us.

If I was a door, I wouldn't feel safe because you're going to get knocked.

Why are thousands of volunteers scrubbing downtown Milwaukee clean?

They're literally going around and they're like cleaning the city, the city.

They're cleaning downtown downtown is one of the cleanest parts of the city of Milwaukee every night again You might find a little bit of Debris You might find a little a little potato chip bag here every so often you may find the backwoods blunt wrapper Maybe every so often you might is our city not clean enough for you Who do you think you are you don't got to come here and clean are we clean the city?

We got street sweepers

You want to clean come back in the springtime when Tory Lowe does his cleanup?

We'll give you something to clean up.

Yeah, you ain't got to get here early clean They're basically saying ill Milwaukee you dirty heathens we got to come Several days ahead of our international convention because we don't like the way you keep your house I Witness the fight once between a wife and a mother-in-law.

It was the most fierce thing I've ever seen in my entire life You know what I should do I should take a break come back and tell you

About this story because let me tell you something.

I feel like that scorned wife Sherwin is gonna tell you how he With the Jehovah's getting here ahead of the convention to make sure the city is clean enough To have their convention here.

I'm offended by that What Milwaukee's not clean enough for you should have tried Chicago if you don't think that we're clean enough should have tried Detroit.

We're very clean.

We're spotless here.

We smell like ivory soap

here in Milwaukee.

Well, some some of us don't but but I'm offended.

I'm so offended that I have a Halloween costume idea and it does involve Jehovah's Witness.

So here's what I need.

I'm going to take a break.

I always say I'm going to take a break and then I don't.

I need a woman between the ages of preferably 35 and 55 to be the part two of my two part Halloween costumes.

So if there are any ladies between the ages.

35 and 55 we can go thin build we can go medium build we can even go heavy set but I need a woman between the ages of 35 and 55 who is available the entire Halloween weekend because my costume involves

two parts one part me one part you and we're going to clean up we're going to go to every goddamn Halloween contest in the city and we're going to make sure that we enter all the ones with a cash prize and we're going to get rich but I need a woman with 28 is the 35 and 55 don't be 57 years old you're too old and don't show me no fake ID don't be 62 years old and show me a fake saying you're 48 lady be linda here's your chance hold on no look you need to relax I know I don't know no no no

No wolves of the book of variety sir, none of those.

Oh, I thought they're very nice looking one.

I don't know not name.

I don't know I don't I don't first of all I don't objectify women all women are be yes in your photos and ladies all women are bebe Ladies quick question.

I really got to take a break.

I did I'm way over time Do y'all nag each other or just us?

So while you think about that also by the way eggs are not dairy the truth with sure when he was a be right back

The truth with Sherwin

This is the truth with Sherwin Hughes on 1017 the truth the truth app and 1017 the truth.com

Welcome

to our two of the truth with Sherwin Hughes.

How many jobs do you all have?

We asked a question via the YouTube poll because I'm curious.

You know, we have inquisitive temperaments around here.

Looks like a bunch of you have already voted.

Do you currently have more than one job?

41% of you do.

Is that because your second job, your second occupation is it's a hobby.

It's a love of yours.

It's a passion where you can't do it full time because it might not be able to pay your bills just yet and maybe you're working toward that end or.

Do you work a second job because your first and primary occupation does not pay you enough?

Wallet Hub did a study and survey of many metro areas in the United States and it found that Wisconsin residents are working more than one job, even more at a higher rate than some other states.

So I am very curious.

Do you all have more than one job when I'll think about let me see um Kind of no because when I leave here, I'm essentially done.

There's obviously other things I can task myself with There's some other professional endeavors.

I may involve myself with but I don't go to another place and punch another clock I don't get another

Hourly wage by working somewhere else now There's a couple other little few projects that I might be asked to be a part of but they are very very optional for the most part This is my only job, but I do a damn near full time It takes a lot to

prepare

even when I do I suppose I do have a second job, but I don't get paid for it every so often I'll do a YouTube broadcast did one last night Those are fun though

Don't know maybe one day it produces some revenue, but I don't do it in hopes that it will replace Either this professional endeavor or some of the other professional endeavors that I may be involved in I have been The executive director of a political action committee for 11 years, but that only gets activated every so often we are not as involved in Politics and in some of the smaller races like we once were we got to be

Really really invested in a race or the outcome of that race I should say before we get involved So I wouldn't necessarily call that a second job would come to find out par for the course 41% or at least 41% of the people that participate in this program do have another job and didn't used to be like that in fact The shift of the economy in the last oh probably 60 years now

You didn't even have to have two people in the same household working.

Just the father, just the dad would probably have a manufacturing job, an assembly line job, a production job, and that could be enough for the entire family.

You could afford a home.

You could afford at least one, maybe even two cars.

You could take a little vacation every now and again, and the retirement benefits were fantastic.

You retire after 30 years.

You have a pension and health insurance for the rest of your life.

I'm not sure if there are many endeavors that even exist.

I tell you what, if I meet a sugar mama.

I'd sign off on your thing.

I'd be like, sorry, guys.

Sugar mama don't want me working no more.

She wants me at the house.

It's been real.

Peace.

Maybe the sugar mama will allow me to do YouTube, but.

If I was a kept man ain't nothing wrong with that Xavier would you be a kept man if a woman's she's got the money She's got all the money all your dreams could come true You could have whatever you want going vacation by all the cars you want money up the wazoo Maybe she inherited the money.

Maybe she comes from old money.

Maybe she comes from new money or or Maybe she did the right thing.

She married a fellow.

He was rich She divorced him now.

She got half and she don't want to be all lonely with all that money and she said Xavier I want you to be my

Boyfriend or something and you don't have to work anymore.

You don't got to go to weddings no more and take photography You don't have to produce stupid Sherwin show no more.

She said she'll take

it

right

away.

It's exactly

long as I have an allowance so I can put some money away for a rainy day

She may not like that but here's what you would probably have to do like they're being account where you can just dip in you know what I mean and Then you say oh hey, honey

I'ma go out with the guys, and we're just gonna go and have dinner.

I like to take my friends out to dinner.

She'll be like, oh, go ahead.

The dinner might only cost $175, but you take $1,000.

You know what I mean?

And then you spend $175, and then the other $825, you put that away.

And then you say, oh, hey, honey, I wanna go visit my parents out of state, and the trip is probably gonna cost, it's gonna cost like $4,000.

You got that flight cheap.

And the hotel is going to be cheap, too.

The whole trip only cost 750, but you're going to tell, oh, it's going to be about $4,000.

And then you put a little piece of that $4,000 away.

That's how you do it.

Then over time, you're like, it's not working out.

That's what you're telling.

Ain't that something that you're the sugar mama and you get broken up with?

Woof.

Happens all the

time.

I know it does.

I know it.

Sugar daddies get broken up with, too.

But the sugar daddy situation.

Maybe a little bit different, but here's the thing all right, so if you Are a sugar baby So the recipient of the sugar okay, and you're a fella so you have a sugar mama You don't have to do stuff every now and again you may not have to do it every day, buddy But you don't have to do stuff every now and again.

You don't have to earn your keep Yeah, I have a

few women that I coach up on that so yes,

but what you mean?

Hold on you women you coach

Well, you know, there's women that are sugar babies that have sugar daddies and you know, I have a few friends I give them advice to extract the most amount of money from the man

Bro you ain't right

why?

Do they for because you're helping them right you're helping them extract more money Do they reward you for the advice as you give them because your advice should turn in some more profit for them?

Do they reward you?

Oh, yes.

I have generous friends.

See, that means you're a pimp.

No,

no, no.

Yes, yes, you are.

You're pimping.

And the sugar daddy is the John.

Oh, my God, my producer is pimping.

I'm not even sleeping with the women.

You don't got to be sleeping with them to pimp.

If some of the best pimps never sleep with their with their their colleagues.

The stuff you find out, I'm over here being produced by a pimp.

Well, they said it ain't easy.

Producer by day pimping by night if you are helping women get that's what pimps do

Boy

Now we got DJ on the line.

Yeah, perfect time for her to call some

funny stories to tell you about that kind of stuff though about pimping not pimping tis

the game is

sold sir not sold just

This advising women, you know There's some of the sugar daddy's finding out that they're they're the John.

It's good stuff.

Hold on.

You called him a

John.

Well, you just called him the John.

I Didn't know that I didn't use that word John.

So you've been using the lingo.

Oh, well

How long you been pimping?

I'm advising women.

You're trafficking in men basically

Yeah, I just you know, sometimes women need advice

And, you know, I just helped him out with it.

Hi, DJ.

How are you this morning?

I'm good.

How are you?

I'm not sure.

Can you hear

me?

Yeah, I can hear you.

I just found out that my producer does a little part-time pimping.

Yeah, I heard.

I heard.

It sounds...

Sounds like he might be running a mentorship program.

I don't know.

Oh, so y'all have all sorts of creative names for back in my day.

It was just called pimping, but all right wait a minute mentorship The question was how many people have a second job and you know is someone's first job or their primary job?

Is it not enough or do people have a second job because it's like a hobby something like to do for fun

And as we were on that topic, I come to find out that it looks like my producer does have a second job.

He's not just a photographer.

Oh, no, no, no.

He does a little part-time pimping as well.

What about you, DJ?

You have any secondary employment options?

Not at the moment.

I used to have too many, so I had to chill out.

Doing too much, but I I feel like I maybe missed a conversation around the the bar Oh bring it up space for that.

Oh, absolutely.

Okay So, you know, it's it's quite It's just so many things to consider.

I was listening to your earlier segment about the convention and how That particular dot the nomination can be

strict in terms of how expectations are of how you should behave and it made me think about how a bar could expect less let me just reiterate bar is expecting for there not to be profane language that's coming from the music and yet your patrons are in fact using profane language as they enter and exit are you policing their

conversations?

Are you policing their clothing?

Are you policing?

What exactly does it mean to have a social institution then restrict music that has profane language in it and then expect for that to create some sort of change?

We do know that Brady Street has had a number of issues and in fact a lot of those issues

have not always been from their Black patrons.

We can talk about the numerous amount of drunk driving instances that occur on Brady Street.

We can talk about the fights that occur and bars that don't frequent, that Black patrons don't frequent, nor do they play Black music.

And I can think about this space historically having quotas.

So what a lot of people don't know is that

those bars in those areas.

I don't know if they still have them, but they have quotas where they can only play a certain amount of hip hop, which is why they mix them with other genres of music.

Most of the time it's like EDM or some kind of house music to minimize the hip hop.

And so we should consider how often or how frequently we will patronize those businesses.

because this has always been a thing from that to their dress codes that restrict things that we wear.

So if you don't want our business, you should not play our music at all.

Don't play our music.

Do not expect our money.

And then the last thing I'll say is that I just want to kind of touch on Ishtar's flaring on TV.

Frankly, I don't.

I don't have an issue with that because it is unrealistic for us to expect for people to not use profane language.

It is not an example or a representation of his.

intellectual capacity actually know him personally and have been a long time friend with him.

And he is a very intelligent individual and I know white folks that cuss on TV that are in different positions.

It is not a reflection of his intellectual capacity or his character.

And so I think we need to be mindful of that and create space for people to be their own person.

Thank you DJ.

Very articulate and eloquent and thank you for not cussing

Thank you a

couple of things She's very good by the way, I like her delivery.

I don't necessarily agree

with most of what she said and let me tell you why if patrons use profanity that should not be the excuse nor the reason why the owner of an establishment should play music

that also features profanity or obscene lyrics.

Let me tell you why because the owner of the establishment that has a lot more responsibility than just the patrons that they serve.

The owner of the establishment can control what music gets played because they curate the environment and the atmosphere of the establishment in which they are licensed to operate.

You can't control the language of your customers, but to say because the customers use profanity, we're going to use

We're gonna play songs or sanctioned songs where women are hoes and bees and etc etc etc So the owner of the establishment for some reason we believe that when something When something seems like it appears like it could be pro black or favors black people, you know black folks don't have to go To every place that plays hip-hop.

Why do we think that we have some kind of ownership?

Sometimes white folks want to play hip-hop music out in Elkhorn is that mean?

Oh, that's the black club now because they play hip-hop

we arbitrarily welcome ourselves in spaces in which we were never invited, and then get angry and upset when the most egregious elements of our culture begin to bubble to the surface, and then they decide that they don't want us anymore.

We assume ownership because they are playing our music that this is our spot in our place And then we get these rude awakenings and that is what this younger generation does not understand about white supremacy and about racism They will tolerate you until they do not and they don't have to give you any warning when the tolerance runs out This is not acceptance ladies and gentlemen.

This is simply tolerance and so I appreciate DJ's call and she's always welcome to call in because I just love hearing from her but also

So I was reading in the comments in Ishtar.

He's thank you Ishtar for being in the comments.

He got a little mad at me and I took issue with because Zach is in the comments too and Zach is the biggest stickler for profanity.

I've ever met my entire life Zach has ended calls that I was on because he thought that somebody said something that was bogus Zach has ended telephone calls that I was on doing my show when Zach wasn't even the producer, right?

So Zach has got a

a particular feeling about profanity over terrestrial airwaves too.

And it's been well documented and I don't think that Zach would ever deny that.

But when you are trying to prove a point, sometimes it is best to use alternative vocabulary because what you don't want to do in these rare moments, when you have an opportunity to plead your case in front of a potentially sympathetic audience.

Which a broadcast media audience very well could be depending upon how you carry yourself and how you deliver yourself But where I think they sold you short is star if you're still in the chat is when they told you that you could cuss They set you up to look like someone who does not have a big vocabulary.

They caught you.

I Know how we operate.

We are media people are sinister and evil and we can

Influenced stuff that people don't even know that we're trying to influence so when they saw no no you can use profanity Because I'm sure that interview was much longer than the clip that they played There's probably a whole bunch of pieces Ishtar that they could have played where you didn't use the sugar honey eyes T-word But they played that on purpose and intentionally they did that on purpose now That's one part of the other part is because a place plays hip-hop and it's a gathering place for African Americans who like that genre of music

does not mean that we are always going to be welcome there.

And then I would argue is if there's a place like that, there's probably a bunch in the city where they play hip hop and black people feel comfortable, feel welcome there.

Do they have any black people on staff?

I mean, other than.

Like bartenders, early black people in management, are there people that work or own that that whatever that establishment is that have decisions, decision making ability?

If the answer is no, then they can shut it down whenever they want.

Here's the thing about the high hat in the garage because these places are connected.

They were in existence long before black folks found any value in going there.

And so when you go into a business that has been around for 35 or 40 years.

You have to keep in mind that they had a customer and a client base before black folks showed up.

Now what a lot of businesses will do is they try and move with the times.

If there's a growing African American population in Milwaukee and if that growing population has more disposable income, of course they're going to play our music because they want your wallet, but they don't want anything else.

They don't want the crime.

They don't want the trouble.

They don't want the disorderly conduct.

They don't want any of that.

They want you to come in.

Buy those overpriced drinks because we'll pay a lot of money for drinks.

That's the thing about black folks.

When we go out, we'll let you rip us off.

You go to a black club, cover charge can be an unlimited amount of money and we'll pay it.

In fact, you go to a black club, you can have two separate lines.

One is a $50 line.

One is a $100 line.

That's the trick.

You know who used to do that?

Ladybug Club.

And then they change the name to 618 Live.

The $50 line never moves because guess what you're going to do eventually?

It's called supply and demand.

If the $50 line, the $50 cover chart, this is just to get in.

You don't even get a back row.

You pay $50 to get in.

You don't even get a happy

ending.

You don't even get a free drink.

But here's what they do and we fall for it.

The $50 line doesn't move and eventually you're going to get fed up.