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It is literally one of my biggest pet peeves.
And I know that you all know, because I bring it up frequently.
Quite honestly, I bring this situation up more frequently than I need to.
I really can't stand when people just disregard their garbage in their trash anywhere on the street in someone's yard.
Just no respect.
whatsoever for somebody else's property and no respect for keeping where you live Clean it's horrible and it says a lot about that person but also I can tell a lot about a person by how they feel about what some may think is a Situation that's trivial.
Oh, they just threw a wrapper out of the
car window.
Oh, what's the big deal?
The window just blow it away.
For some reason, every piece of trash that has ever been thrown out of any window of any car or anything that's ever been thrown on the ground ends up in my yard.
I don't know how it happens, but if anything ever gets thrown outside on the ground in the city of Milwaukee, it just it ends up in my yard.
It ends up against my back fence and it's horrible.
It's horrible.
So whenever I see garbage in front of my yard, I always pick it up and I'm very angry when I have to do that because I'm thinking of myself.
Somebody could have just put this in the garbage.
Sometimes garbage carts you guys have those neighbors where they don't really know when garbage day is they just leave their garbage carts just out Every single day of the week and if I see garbage of course I'll put trash Even in my neighbors yard because that makes the block look ugly and I'm fortunate in that I live on a block where it's majority homeowners We have a few renters, but they're mostly they're mostly decent folks.
They've been long-term renters, but man.
Oh man is it
It just infuriates me when people do that and Every spring we have these neighborhood cleanups.
You guys are probably familiar with the one that we had here at 101 7 the truth for many many years sponsored by Tory Lowe I wonder if Tory Lowe is gonna continue his neighborhood cleanups.
I know that they probably should Continue and he took great pride in those and I guess from his perspective
It's a community building exercise.
It brings people together because his cleanups are actually pretty diverse.
There's a lot of our colleagues and coworkers here when we were with good karma brands and they'd come out and do their part.
It was always embarrassing for me because a lot of times the cleanups and you all would specify where you would want the Tory low cleanup to take place.
Like we had a website and you could select.
Enter in an address or maybe there's a vacant lot or maybe there's a particular school I think one year they cleaned up a church parking lot baffling to me because I think wouldn't the parishioners want to keep their house of worship clean, but however I digress I Was embarrassed because a lot of our colleagues and co-workers I think they would view Participating in the Tory low cleanup.
At least this is how I thought they viewed it
It's like I'm going to do my part and help these blacks that can't even pick up garbage in front of their own houses.
I took it as such.
No one ever said that.
No one was ever explicit in saying something that egregious, but it just felt that way.
Like they played their role.
They did their part.
You know, you can't ever call them racist.
Sure.
When I'm not racist, I picked up garbage in a black people neighborhood.
It just felt that way.
Also because I have never.
Been asked to participate in or even seen and I'm not saying that they don't exist.
I just I have never been Requested to clean up garbage in Brookfield or Franklin or Oak Creek or River Hills We're having a River Hills neighborhood cleanup because you know all this garbage out here in River Hills that tends to pile up after the winter snowmelt I've never seen it, but there's something about
About us I also could say all right.
It's more densely populated in the city of Milwaukee.
There's more people and obviously if one out of 1,000 people litter That's still 600 people throwing garbage on the ground But one out of 1,000 is actually a very low number, but it seems to be concentrated in particular neighborhoods and it oftentimes seems to be the neighborhoods that are
Let me just say of color.
So it's very frustrating to me because it's very very preventable But I also think that if you if you get to know a person Then you're talking to them or whatever and you maybe you hang out with them socially like you go and do things with this person You don't really know them Until you go to their house and see how they live and what I have found is that
Some people live in total squalor.
Have you ever gone to somebody's house and you just don't even want to sit down?
No, I'm not naming names.
Xavier says, yes, you've seen people that live like that.
We all do.
The part that always gets me, I'm going to make a much larger point today.
I am going to talk about the festival that took place at Brown Deer Park where they left, it was a black festival and they left it an absolute mess like all of the trash, all of the food, all of the cups and containers.
from what was supposed to be for all intents and purposes.
It was a safe and fun event, but they left their garbage all over Brown Deer Park.
This was an event that they planned starting back in the wintertime and it just took place, I believe it was last weekend.
And there's a news story on how much garbage was left and they had six or seven different event organizers.
I guess it's a pretty big event that they have annually.
Brown Deer Park, but the story is about like they didn't pick up any garbage one I'm gonna quote the story in a little bit The one of the event organizers said well by the time the festival ended it got dark and we couldn't see the garbage anymore So essentially we just left it there So then a number of volunteers had to come and pick up the garbage from Brown Deer Park and one of the volunteers was just giving their
Account of just how disgusting it was like they found soiled underwear.
Oh, it's so bad It's so bad and I'm thinking to myself isn't this very similar to?
The garbage that we see just throughout the city of Milwaukee, and I'd like to believe this if You go somewhere else and I don't know if these people live in brown deer now I'm assuming that some of them do maybe some of them don't but if you live in a place where it's routine
for garbage to be thrown on the ground.
And maybe you participate in it because you might be thinking to yourself, well, everybody else throws trash on the ground.
I think I'm going to do the exact same thing.
But if you're going somewhere else, if you're going to a public space, if you're going to a green space, if you're going to a park, and Brown Deer Park is beautiful.
In fact, they've got one of those PGA golf courses.
In fact, so I got a soft spot for Brown Deer Park.
I grew up at that park.
I played at that park.
When I built my model rockets, me and my dad would go launch my model rockets at Brown Deer Park.
I would hang out with my friends at Brown Deer Park.
In fact, Tiger Woods Turn Pro.
Brown Deer Park Tiger was 21.
I was 22 years old and that's when I saw myself as potentially being a black golfer I assure you with the age of 51.
I am not a black golfer.
I'm not a golfer of any race.
I I get worse The more I golf it's the hardest sport I've ever played my entire life And I end up losing a lot of my golf clubs also because I golf of people who are reckless, but it is
So when I saw this story of all this trash that was left behind it brown to park obviously I got offended dare I say I got triggered because it just it makes me so angry like there's zero pride none if I'm having an event in a park That's used by everybody.
You know, we pay a lot of money to maintain these parks now a lot of property tax money got to maintain the parks We got to spend extra money to keep the damn parks clean.
This is horrible.
This is embarrassing as an event organizer.
I wouldn't
I would go back the next day to make sure the place that I reserved.
The permit that I got to have my event was spotless.
In fact, I would leave it just like I found it.
But there's also something deeper about the psychology of people.
And a moment ago, I was just talking about people who live in complete squalor.
What confused me with those folks is they'll invite you to their house.
Maybe it's for the first time.
Let's assume that it is.
And they don't clean up anything I'm not I'm not OCD clean but my house is picked up because I never know who may stop by and I make sure I keep garbage out of my yard because I get You know Amazon drivers will come and some of my biggest listeners shout out to the people that They drive for a living like those are some of my biggest listeners.
In fact, I took an Uber home Monday night
And the guy that picked me up by getting a vehicle, he had 101.72 into his radio.
He knew who I was.
Kind of embarrassing for me, but you know, it's cool.
So I make sure that my yard doesn't have garbage in it, because the last thing I want is somebody's making a delivery to the Sherwin Hughes' house, and I got Frito lay bags on my yard.
It just, that kind of stuff bothers me.
So I make sure I keep my yard clean.
It doesn't mean I'm happy about having to go pick up somebody else's soda cans and beer bottles.
Little half pints of sea grooms gin, but but I do it just to To give the appearance that I try to keep my yard a little bit clean because you know people will talk about you They got a fascination with talking about me boy.
I've been called everything you could imagine a Republican a Liberal not often a liberal I've been called gay that happens pretty frequently been called mean you name it I get called it mean.
Oh sure
Oh, sure.
Well, why are you so mean to Bob?
Just sit.
I've been real patient with Bob lately, and I'm just letting Bob just take all the rope he needs to hang himself.
You're the nicest man I know.
You must know some awful people.
But if I'm having somebody come to my house for the first time, that is as clean as my house is probably going to be for a long time, because I want them, first of all, to feel comfortable.
I can't feel comfortable if somebody's house is disgusting.
I don't want someone to think, oh, I went to Sherwin's house and it was gross.
Don't want that like that's the least that I could possibly do like that's respect obviously for myself How I live but then also if I'm showing you my home Like I might get down to clean the baseboards.
You know I mean cuz some of y'all Find dust everywhere and also depends on who's coming over some of y'all I don't care But I'm never gonna have a sloppy disgusting house But I've also realized that those people that might throw trash on the ground is have a total disregard For a particular type of cleanliness.
You also have to worry about like their personal hygiene.
So that's a whole another
Conversation we should have at some point, but it seems that How someone lives their home Because you know the people that will invite you into their home and it's there's dishes in the sink the bathroom not the bathroom You got to clean the bathroom bathroom in the kitchen got to keep it clean bedroom That's okay because you just close the bedroom door.
Yeah, sometimes I got clothes on the floor I take care of that later, but you know bathroom got to be clean
Kitchen has to be clean common areas got to be clean living rooms relatively picked up I vacuum the floors.
I got a little hardwood floors, but I got some carpet I keep all that stuff done because you never know who might who might come over you understand But people who live in complete and total feel that are okay with throwing trash on the ground when they're anywhere doesn't matter where they're at That's how they feel on the inside I've come to realize if your surroundings are full of just mess and garbage and chaos a lot of times internally
Their head is also very discombobulated.
They're very disorganized mentally.
You can tell a lot about a person, not just by how they live, but the space they invite you to.
Because if I'm inviting you or if somebody is inviting you, there's a time in which you are expected.
Hey, everybody, come on over Sunday at four o'clock.
It's Wednesday right now.
So if I'm inviting people over to my house.
Sunday at four o'clock I Got four whole days to clean the crib up But then when people arrive and my house is a mess That's probably a reflective of just like how I feel on the inside now I know I said a whole bunch, but I'm gonna be connecting a bunch of things.
I'm gonna take a break when I come back I'm gonna talk about this community festival that took place at Brown Deer Park and for all intents and purposes at least according to the article
It was a successful festival Let me do just a real quick side note on this because this is frustrating to me too.
It's like now I'm starting to over scrutinize Everything that we're saying everything that we're doing of the standards that we are putting out there in the world as adults Because the children are getting really really bad examples because we are beside ourselves with the inappropriate behavior of our children And I'm wondering where they're getting some of this stuff from I know exactly where they're getting it from
I almost can't blame the kids because the adults are worse because the adults should know better.
The standard for black people having a good event, I don't care who gets mad.
Is nobody got shot?
It was a great event.
Wait, what?
There was no violence.
This event was great.
Have we descended that low?
And I want to answer to this question.
Have our standards as black people become so low that if nobody gets shot and there's no fights, that that's the standard for a great event?
Shouldn't a great event be like Somebody won a new car several people had sex and somebody found $900 in cash like a great event should be oh my god.
We all got together and no one was murdered We should do this again sometime It's literally in the article like oh there was no violence, but you left garbage everywhere.
It's so bad y'all And I really wish somebody would challenge me on this that our standard has gotten so low
that if there is no violence, it's almost like, what?
No one?
Not even a stab?
No one?
You sure when you mean to tell me ain't nobody even get stabbed?
Wow.
That's insane to me.
There is an issue with NPS discipline.
I'm going to wrap all this stuff together.
Because I think it starts very small, and if people are throwing trash on the ground, it could be in front of their house, it could be at an event that they're having at Brown Deer Park.
That is a basic lack of discipline.
At the very least, it's not even about wanting to be neat, clean, and orderly.
It's not even about wanting to leave a beautiful park, a green space that we all pay to maintain, leaving it exactly the way you find it.
These people have zero, zero discipline.
And some of that is translating into the youth because we have harsher penalties and more suspensions and expulsions of black children because of this lack of discipline that these children exhibit.
I'm wrapping all this stuff up.
It's us.
It's the adults.
We're setting bad examples and we're setting low standard.
We don't have high academic standards.
We have low standards for behavior.
And even what makes a successful event is one in which no one was killed or there was no fighting.
We are so much better than this.
We're going to discuss it today.
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It's created to bring people together is facing criticism after volunteers say they spent hours cleaning trash and debris from Brown Deer Park the following day.
So I am going to propose because I'm sick of just complaining about stuff and not proposing any solutions.
We need a resolution that's the song that I play to get see what I did there.
I'm very witty This has a very simple fix I'm gonna get into the details of the story, but if you
Reserve a picnic area at any Milwaukee County Park and I'm speaking from Milwaukee County because I don't really care about Walker Shaw County They can handle Walker Shaw things in Washington County and handle Washington County things I also know that I'm not reading stories in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel about parks in walkie Shaw County or Washington County or Ozaki County where there's a whole bunch of trash that's left after the white people have a fourth of July festival So I'm gonna talk about Milwaukee County if that's okay with the court if it pleases the court
Because somebody has to get the permit.
You have to pay for the permit.
I think you even need like a separate alcohol permit if you want to have drinking.
At least that's how it used to be.
You'd buy a permit and then you pay this fee and it allows you to rent areas, picnic areas in Milwaukee County Parks.
But then once you have the liquor permit, you can bring beer and wine, whatever the case may be.
But either way, somebody's got to be responsible for that permit.
Somebody signs off on it.
Somebody says, oh no, this is my event.
I'll pay the fee.
I'll sign the permit.
If trash is left behind The person who Signed the permit the person who say oh no, I'm responsible.
This is my event and If they leave trash, oh, we'll clean the trash up But you're gonna pay for it if it costs.
I don't know you paid 10 people $20 an hour
That's $200 per hour 10 people making 20 bucks an hour and it takes them 10 hours to clean up You're gonna get a bill for $2,000 that it gets your mind right or we will suspend your Park permit privileges until you pay that $2,000.
Oh, you don't want to pay it
You don't want to pay because I don't know if you can write a citation for that.
But how about this?
We'll find out where you live.
We'll put it on your property taxes so you can have an event at a park.
But if you don't clean it up, it's going to get cleaned up, but you're going to pay for it.
I think that that's a simple solution because it's so much easier to even bring your own trash receptacles because one of the event organizers said they asked for additional like garbage like bins and they didn't get the bins, but they were provided with trash bags.
That's good enough.
and because you don't have actual bins doesn't mean you just throw the garbage on the ground and it's so frustrating because the this behavior is so low level yet we as people and as a community want so much we require so much we ask for so much we need more services and we need more resources and I don't doubt that at all
But if we're exhibiting these kinds of behaviors, I can actually understand why somebody would say screw those people.
We're not giving them anything.
No more resources.
No more services.
And these are adults.
These are not children because I looked at the pictures.
These is grown folks.
Some of them got more gray than me.
And that's a lot of gray.
I think I've gotten grayer doing radio.
Be careful, Xavier.
It'll gray up pretty fast and not dealing with these people that be calling and texting in and stuff.
You know, it's funny.
I have a couple gray hairs that started popping up on top of my head.
Yeah, I'm looking forward to being a silver fox.
Oh, sure.
It's been that legendary 9.7
It's been a pretty good summer for me too.
Not as wild as last summer.
Every summer, you know, I mean a couple chilled out laid-back summers because then you appreciate the wild ones even more because if wild is your default You know what I mean because then you got to go further and further and further and further and further and more extreme more extreme And then next you know you're in prison.
Yeah, you're true.
That's true
Now one of the people behind the friends and family fest is acknowledging organizers could have Could have done better while also saying
They did not simply pack up and leave the mess behind.
See the event took place over the weekend in Brown Deer Park and was peaceful and successful according to family and friends fest organizers Organizers stress they spent months planning the Milwaukee County with the Milwaukee County Parks and Attained all the proper permits to conduct the event just a little side note on that and do not get this family and friends fest
Confused with truth family fest, which will be taking place this Saturday at Riverside University high school From 11 a.m.
Until 2 p.m.
And we're gonna be there from 11 to 2 and be Broadcasting and have all the vendors are gonna be there and all the resource tables are gonna be there It's gonna be many many different things come on out.
We're gonna have some entertainment.
Someone might be dancing.
I don't know someone might be doing the inchworm and break dancing I don't know what's gonna happen.
You never know But I promise you this
When truth family fest is done at two o'clock there will be nothing on the ground.
There will be no potato chip bags There will be no blunt wrappers and tobacco guts.
There won't be any of that stuff left It's very easy have a lot of respect or some respect or a modicum of respect for somebody else's space Aren't we worried about getting judged?
We need to start shaming people again Shame used to be a real big thing
Oh my God, who was here?
Who had this party?
It's disgusting.
Oh, Johnny and Billy and Susie and Travis.
Shame them.
Reputation used to mean something.
It really did.
Are we living in a world where reputation means nothing?
Don't you want to have a solid reputation?
Do you want to be known for someone who is gross and disgusting and leaving squalor behind?
Like it's real simple stuff.
Like where do this stuff go?
Am I just
living in the late stages of capitalism
Oh, here you go late stages late stage early stage mid-stage ain't got nothing to do with somebody not finding a garbage can I don't care if it's early stage socialism communism Taoism religiousism.
I don't care what it puts garbage in a garbage can.
It's a simplest gesture You know what I'll do sometimes if there's no place to throw away any garbage I just keep it in my pocket till I get home or I put it in the car I got all sorts of little cubby holes in the Tesla
I was like, oh, I don't have anywhere to throw this away.
I just put it in a cubby hole in the Tesla and then I get get home and I'll put them city of Milwaukee trash bin.
I think somebody switched my trash bin.
With their trash bin because where I live, you put it, you put it on like this by the sidewalk, put it by the curb, not in the street, but you put your garbage bin and the garbage bin come mysteriously on whichever day they choose and they come and get your garbage.
And sometimes my bin is not exactly where I left it.
It's like a house down sometimes or it's in front of my neighbor's driveway.
And I can tell that the bin is not my bin because my bin didn't smell bad.
The bin that I have now is disgusting, like somebody threw a body away at it.
Oh, they just switched it.
They're like, ah, I don't like that smell.
The
event took place over the weekend in Brown Deer Park and was peaceful and successful According to family and friends fest organizers organizer stress They spent months planning with the Milwaukee County Parks and attained all proper permits to conduct the event Friends of Brown Deer Park
A volunteer group that regularly gives its time to clean and care for the park posted photos showing trash, food, balloons, and other debris scattered throughout portions of the park after the third annual family and friends fest.
This morning we encountered an absolutely disgusting mess left all over the hurling field and playground from a quote family event held here yesterday This is from the friends of brown deer park They put a social media post with these pictures that are just absolutely filthy.
They left the damn balloons At the park you got to take the balloons which you believe somebody took the time to blow up the balloons The kids got to take the balloons whether they left the damn balloons on the ground
The people who reserved these areas lied about the numbers who would be attending.
Hundreds descended yesterday and left trash far worse than anything we've ever encountered.
It took four of us a combined total of 11 hours to clean up and the park staff were still carrying everything off after we left.
The group made some attempts to bag the trash, some of the trash, but the entire area was littered with balloons, hot coals, dumped in multiple places on the grass.
metal and wooden stakes, plates, cups, most plastic cups smashed to create shards, utensils, liquor, beer bottles cans, games, clothing, including soiled underwear, confetti and more.
They drove cars all over the field and through the playground, including the mulched areas under the equipment for children.
An unbelievable amount of food was thrown all over.
The final thing to notice how much unopened food snacks beverages and party supplies were also left behind This group must have plenty of money to throw away along with their trash and they show these pictures.
It is so embarrassing.
What is this right here?
What is this?
Is that a whole propane tank?
Okay, why don't we do this take a break come back Grab a telephone call on the other side
Somebody named Walker Shaw is calling Okay Al from Sherman that's odd that it says Walker Shaw.
All right, we'll talk to Al from Sherman Park Al from Sherman Park I hope you keep Sherman Park clean cuz Sherman Park is it's not always spotless now because if you have Sherman Park in your name Al you better be out there making sure it ain't no blunt rappers out there buster You're listening to the truth with Sherwin Hughes and one on one seven FM.
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Talking about an event that took place last weekend a friends and family fest that was at Brown Deer Park and there was tremendous amount of garbage food supplies even unopened food items clothing including soiled underwear left at the park and there's a group called friends of Brown Deer Park that did go and Clean up everything that was left behind and they also posted pictures on
They're friends of Brown Deer Park social media pages and it's just it's really really embarrassing and so via the YouTube chat Marlene says suspending park permit privileges is Not going to work because they'll just have someone else secure the park permit next time Glad you brought that up Marlene because we need a thing through this and a county supervisor can put together an ordinance and this joker will pass this county board
Know the chairwoman Marcella Nicholas Nicholson Nicholas Nicholson.
Sorry Marcy.
She got married too.
So she's got another last thing I think Nicholson both L Just collecting last name shout out to Marcy the chairwoman of the county board Who will be acting County Executive if David Crowley gets elected governor?
We'll talk about that another time But I think that this ordinance would it because it makes sense if you get a permit
And you reserve a picnic area or park space at any Milwaukee County park and if you leave trash You're gonna be responsible for cleaning it up day of or you're going to get fine and we'll suspend your park Permit privileges, but here's the thing suspend the event so you can get another person to get the permit Okay, you find another person But the event will be suspended doesn't matter who gets the damn permit you're gonna have to call the event something different
And they probably wouldn't want to do that because if it's called the third annual friends and family event They probably want to call it that for the fourth and the fifth and the sixth annual but if they have a track record of Leaving trash behind then you suspend the entire event.
You got to wonder what if they would have rented a space in Walker Shaw County or Washington County How are the folks out there?
I just don't want people thinking if you can disrespect Milwaukee as we get enough disrespect as it is
We get disrespected because I think people are jealous of all the amenities here I think the people are jealous because you know Milwaukee is a black city.
It is this is our city I know it's hard for us to to like conceptualize that and to internalize it But it's our city it is we are the plurality race in this city and I want it to be reflective of the best of who we are That's an urban area and that comes with a lot of problems and we don't exactly have political disagreement with some of our more
conservative counterparts in the Wisconsin State Legislature, but there are things that we can do to promote a better image of the city because Milwaukee is a black city.
And I know that we don't want to take responsibility for that, but I think that we should because it could be something that we can be proud of.
There's nothing stopping us from being a premier upper Midwestern town with a plurality of African Americans.
We should have higher standards for everything because this is our city and as time goes on It's gonna be more and more our city including taking responsibility for some of the problems because we're gonna get to a point We can't blame white folks no more can't blame they're gone.
They're gonna ride here.
We're not dealing with it Be three white people left in the city me walking we gonna blame them for everything
Discipline disparities and NPS gonna blame them for police brutality people only want to be cops anymore in the city of Milwaukee Pretty soon.
We're gonna run everybody away and it's gonna be us.
We ain't we gonna find them three white people We're gonna blame them for everything separation segregation racism slavery and when the last three white people leave we gonna blame them I guess we'll have to start blaming the light-skinned black Xavier you're on deck Let's talk to Al from Sherman Park.
Hi Al from Sherman Park.
How are you?
Hey, how are you doing Shirley?
laughing
Don't don't blame Xavier
Not
yet Hey, you gotta be petty like me and paint your house numbers on your trash can Then you see it down the street you go grab it That's just how petty I am um
Now I get tired of having to call the city to replace my carts because somebody else took mine because there's a full or the city didn't take theirs because they have the wrong materials in there that irritates the heck out of me.
free?
Okay.
Might be cartless for a week or so.
It takes a month for me
Yeah, I don't.
Yeah, I kind of feel your pain there.
Now, we had a couple events last year at the Brown deer, what was it, the Boathouse, and then we had a birthday party at the golf clubhouse.
But we always clean up, you know, especially when we had a family event.
picking up our trash, cleaning up the tables, putting it in the garbage, and nobody leaves until that's all picked up.
So I think it's a matter of pride and discipline.
And one of the things I think that we're being sold in our community is that pride and discipline is a white thing.
And I think it's nonsense because when you hear stories about people complaining you can't wear bonnets and slippers and do rags to class, that's not our culture.
Our culture is not lack of discipline, but we've been told by others that our culture is lack of discipline and pride and civility.
I reject those messages.
I don't know.
What's your thought on it?
Because they in some cases are filthier and less disciplined than us.
It's just that they get away with it.
So I really hope we don't think that Being clean and cleaning up after yourself and having pride in space is something that's associated with them folks because them folks are the wrong example But I don't know it it could be I I do know when it comes to appearance because I come from an era where
It doesn't matter what you did.
You left the house looking at least halfway decent because you never knew who you were going to run into.
And my parents used to tell me because I used to go to the mall a lot and I pick out any old clothes to wear to the mall because I didn't care.
My parents are like, you ain't going to the mall looking like that.
Somebody we know might see you and they don't think poorly of us.
You ain't going to embarrass us.
I always make sure I had money in my pockets.
My parents thought I was going to steal all the time.
I don't know why that was.
But no, there's pride and appearance.
was always something that was held very very high and I look back at some of this old civil rights footage out where our our heroes and our ancestors knew that they were going to get
beat and bludgeon and sometimes even kill, but they still wore their Sunday best.
You wouldn't catch a black woman out there in 1963 going across the Edmund Pettus with her hair and roller.
She got her hair done.
She had her pearls on.
She had on her heels, about to march to her death.
We had so much pride in who we were.
It seems like some of it is gone.
I say we bring it back.
And I don't know how we bring it back and instill it in the young people because I think there is something that tells us, as long as we're rebellious, we're proud black folks.
But sometimes rebellion is... We still need to have some pride in our rebellion.
How about that?
So you can rebel and still have pride and civility and discipline.
So anyway, the part that I don't get about trash is people throwing the diapers out in the street and then the liquor bottles.
What is that about?
I'll go up every week and I'll find at least two or three liquor bottles thrown up on the sidewalk, brown, royal, beer.
I don't get it.
Anyway, have a good day.
I'd have
a fit But baby wipes you guys ever just see like little cloth baby wipes, you know what that is That's prostitution If there are baby wipes, but there's no diapers That is a woman of the night Cleaning herself between clients and this the prostitution is not what you think it is where it's just
Sometimes the holes be on a stroll.
There's a street used to be Lisbon and the holes just be out there strolling I think the holes might still be out there early in the morning late at night No, it doesn't be careful But it'll just be a woman who'll just hop into a person's car even on a side street and not always on on main roads
And then they'll do their business and then she'll, she'll clean up and just throw the baby wipe out on the, that's a biohazard, by the way.
And whenever I see those, the, the profanity that comes out of my mouth, I'll listen a little bit to the, to the morning show.
And then we're talking about road rage.
I have many different types of rages.
I do have trash rage.
I like, I get angry.
Like, why are y'all throwing this stuff at my or what?
I, whatever duty.
Oh, I get up early in the morning.
I try to talk to the black folks.
I try to level set.
I try to demystify politics.
Wait until I get to the story about what the Trump administration is doing to reverse disciplinary policy changes at MPS.
I had to read this story three times.
I feel silly because this other day I was like, oh, well, Trump's president, nothing is different.
Oh, it's about to change.
You're about to see something exceptionally, exceptionally profound change in how black students are disciplined.
This also leads us to our daily YouTube poll question.
Are black students unfairly disciplined in schools?
Because, you know, yesterday we had a conversation about.
probably
some
everything we had a conversation about yesterday but how we should handle fighting when kids you know start these I don't know street takeovers and they fight because they fought at State Fair some of the things that you all suggested were overwhelmingly harsh the worst of which and this is common whenever I talk about okay if
Black teenagers are causing a disruption.
First and foremost, we're going to hear hold the parents responsible.
So give the parents a ticket, which I suppose in some cases is reasonable.
But then people went as far as to say, oh, if they're on section eight, take their housing.
If they receive food assistance, take away their food stamps, if their children are unruly and acting up in public.
So the thing is, if you listen very carefully.
The things that black people will say if you ask us what the consequences should be When other black people are lacking Discipline and when their children are misbehaving and fighting and ruining public spaces for other people What we say goes much further than even what a white racist would do
And if you have the conversation long enough, black people love the death penalty.
Oh, we love it.
But we also are on intimate terms with death.
Death is our friend.
Hell, I'm going to a funeral on Saturday.
This be my third funeral I've been to in eight months.
So just people, black folks died.
Just on accident, on purpose, car accidents, heart attacks.
You name it.
I'm taking a break, come back, talk to Phil on the other side.
I see you, Phil.
We're going to get to you
in just a second.
The truth with Sherwin Hughes will be back shortly.
Reginald says put the fire hoses on those disruptors We went out to dinner from my brother's birthday on Sunday You want to go to Olive Garden?
I'm like cool He said sure one if I had a chance to do it all over Start over.
He's like I'd be a revolutionary.
I'm like, bro.
What is you revolting against G?
Parents bought you a damn new car when you turn 16 you grew up in brown deer, and you got a college degree with what?
It's fine.
Don't worry about don't start to feel I Feel how are you?
I'm okay.
How are you doing Sherwin?
Hey about that garbage cart thing I learned this when I was a I had some rentals and you get one garbage cart per single family house
A duplex you get to, and you also decide for recycle.
Now, if you order an extra card, you have to let them know that your other card is missing or broken.
Because if you look at your water bill, and you got an extra card, it's in little bitty writing.
They charge you for that extra card, each water period.
So every three months, you're paying for that extra card.
So you got to make sure that you get really the old one.
And like the other gentlemen said, I mark mine with like a paint color because they'll take it down the alley somewhere and then they'll use yours and then you end up with none or you end up with a broken one.
But that's what I wanted to let you know.
Useful information, so maybe I will spray paint.
Sherwin's cart.
You in words?
No, I don't say that.
Milwaukee Community Festival created to bring people together as face and criticism after volunteers say they spent hours cleaning trash and debris from Brown Deer Park the following day.
Now one of the people behind Family and Friends Fest is acknowledging organizers could have done better while also saying they did not simply pack up and leave the mess behind.
I got a problem with that because that's zero accountability and responsibility for the garbage that they absolutely left because there are pictures there.
It's been photographed.
It's been documented.
It's like, oh yeah, we could have did a better job.
You know, it was getting late.
It got dark.
People started going home.
Nobody wanted to clean up.
Like take responsibility for it.
And this is a whole different conversation.
Now one of the people behind friends and family fest is acknowledging organizers could have done better like are you serious?
Done better like oh, yeah, we should have cleaned it up and as the event organizer Because if your name is on the event like now I'm gonna associate this event would just oh they're gonna leave garbage behind See we can squeeze Curtis him before we take a break Curtis you're on one on one seven the truth.
How are
you?
And you are allowed two garbage carts per unit.
And you could have unlimited recycling if you can order as many as you want.
No charge.
Yes, sir.
for us.
Hey, can I say one thing?
Yes.
Everyone listening, please do not flip both hands, say, or anything.
I was blown up a couple weeks ago and I would like to die to at least not put that stuff in the cage.
blown up.
Yeah, it was everywhere dude, everywhere.
not like you're back
I absolutely am.
Oh, yeah, I'll check everything now.
I just want to share that with everybody.
Thank you.
Yeah, we played that footage on the morning show.
Yep.
I saw him get blown up.
Y'all ain't even right why y'all try to blow up Curtis Curtis is nice Curtis I hear picking up y'all's garbage y'all try to kill Curtis with a propane tank Don't you have to return a propane tank?
Cuz isn't there a deposit you can't keep a propane tank.
What is happening?
Curtis is I'm going back to work.
I'm risking life and limb Listen, shout out to sanitation workers because if it was not for them
So when the garbage sanitation workers went on strike in Memphis, like that was an effective kind of boycott because you let Milwaukee go without sanitation workers for one month, it'll be rat rodent city.
The truth was when he was to be back for hour two.
The truth with Sherwin Hughes returns after this on 1017 the truth, the truth app and 1017 the truth.com.
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The people that were involved in the organizing of the Friends and Family Fest at Brown Dear Parker Listen, they're going to be mad at me, but I'm trying to bring shame back.
There probably was a time where people would be embarrassed if their event ended up.
An hour's worth of topic on black talk radio, you would think they would say, oh, no.
How terrible.
We should be ashamed of ourselves next year.
We're going to clean up.
They barely even took responsibility for it.
In fact, you know what?
I want to finish reading the article.
Like I had to stop so many times because there's something like every sentence of every paragraph of the article is more infuriating because the park is an absolute mess.
And one of the organizers was like, oh, yeah, I guess we could have done better.
What?
That's a basic minimum and it should be a requirement.
I've never rented a picnic area before but I've gone to plenty like isn't there some fine print somewhere that you got to clean this stuff up or you'll be fine?
Is there even a Milwaukee County ordinance where you can find somebody or hold them responsible because I'm all for if somebody doesn't want to clean up their event cool but you're gonna pay for somebody else to clean it up and it's gonna be a hell of a lot more expensive or ooh I got one
You want to rent a picnic area?
$17,000 deposit.
You get your deposit back when we go and inspect the area.
And if it's clean, you get your deposit back.
You want to rent a picnic area?
Oh, you do.
Give us your firstborn.
Actually, no.
Keep your firstborn because far too many people would be willing to sacrifice their firstborn.
Find them Not gonna clean up, okay somebody clean it up and we're gonna pay them whoever this cleaning services a Lot of money and you're going to be charged The group says for Friends of Brown Deer Park volunteers spent a combined 11 hours cleaning its social media posts also raised concerns about debris and hot coals
Left behind after the gathering this is going to relate to How young people are disciplined so if there are adults and if there are parents Who I'm assuming put this event on this is not a kids event I mean there are kids there, but there were adults that signed the contracts and Rented the space and if children see that undisciplined kind of behavior Do you wonder where the lack of discipline?
Stems from when these kids are in school, but then we have this whole thing.
We got to unravel and as black folks we got to be honest about some things Look, I get it right systemic oppression institutional structural racism at every single epoch in American history some barrier has been erected and
Every time we make progress, it seems that even our politics turns away from black progress.
The other political party will erect more barriers just when we jump through one hoop.
Here comes four more.
Like, I get it.
It's a struggle.
We have to work really, really hard.
We walk into some of these rooms and
we
I know it, y'all.
Trust me, I do.
But at the end of the day, if you take all that away.
This is just the the cross that we bear as black people That just it comes along with it But also when we win and we accomplish the glory is so much sweeter because you are doing it for history You are setting a tone that listen to me when I tell you this no matter what they throw at us cool because they tried everything They tried it all we still come out victorious.
They cannot stop us right now.
It seems like we are stopping ourselves I'm gonna ask a real simple question.
It should be rhetorical
As much as you may hate the system and I'm sure some of y'all even hate capitalism which is confusing to me because black people love money and we love entrepreneurship We love making profit because sometimes you know if you're black and talented white folks will come for you because you make them look bad You make them look lazy and you make them look mediocre.
Oh, they hate that So sometimes we just leave corporate America and we start our own corporate America We start our own little businesses shout out to all the people that do that But then even if you want loans and resources for your business if you black you got to jump through more hoops and hurdles
than anybody else does, so I get it.
At the end of the day, can you behave?
Can you behave?
Can you act like a normal, rational human being?
Can you get into a disagreement with somebody and not yell and scream and cuss them out?
Can you keep your tone the same even if you have been wrong?
Can you can you debate an issue without getting in your feelings?
Can you behave?
Can you carry yourself with a level of maturity?
Not just fit for an adult but fit for a child to watch and learn from this should be a rhetorical question Can you behave with all the oppression and all the racism and all the white folks that are clearly trying to kill you?
Table salt will kill more black people than white people will just to let you know
I don't care how many cops kill black people Not exercising is gonna kill dramatically more.
So just want to throw that out there in case we want to blame something on our death French fries, which are delicious.
I like crinkle-cut But let me tell you the ultimate The waffle fry No
You don't like
I like to dip things.
I like sauces.
I like dipping the waffle fry has got.
And then the sauce, it can get all up in the holes and you can fully sauce.
Your season waffle for I'm gonna give you all a little hack even though I shouldn't I got to stop revealing my places I go to certain places.
Oh like yesterday during the storm.
I wasn't at home.
I was in the streets I was at Club Charlie's all their furniture blew away and my stupid ass parked a Tesla under a tree and it was raining so bad because right when the touch the tornado touched down in West Dallas some of that wind was blowing eastward and it's just leaves and sticks and branches flying off the damn
Tree and all the furniture of Charlie's umbrellas was blown away because they got patio furniture I feel back because the poor server waitress girl she put on her like a Windbreaker and she almost got blown away and we all standing inside Club Charlie's looking at her out the window like I hope she makes it nobody tried to help her so The white girl gave up.
She's like I'm not bringing all these umbrellas in here and stuff just started blowing down the street
I'm thinking to myself my Tesla's gonna get crushed by a tree because I partner under a tree It was alright.
I just had a stick on my hood just a branch not even a branch.
It's like a stick big stick, but it was okay be careful out there ladies Lewis Vasquez is this him?
He looks black
Let me let his hair texture.
You know, we got to look at determining factors.
So he he looks Afro-Latino.
Y'all confuse me with that.
Black African American, black Afro-Latino, white Hispanic, white non-Hispanic.
Listen, pick a side, y'all.
Come on.
Why are you adding?
Can we get back to the waffle fries for a second?
I don't like how you responded.
So here's what you do you go to I can't say the name We're also gonna be starting back our segments with visit Milwaukee or I'm gonna be forced to tell y'all all the fun places to go But I got to separate there's places that I know of that I'm familiar with and I think you all would enjoy and I might promote and talk about those But then there's the places that I go to and I love y'all so much.
You have no much no idea Rather how much I love you guys, but I don't want to see you when I'm in the street
I don't if I run into you cool but I'm not gonna you're not invited catch me if you can't if you see me out you see me up but I'm not telling you where I'm going I learned that lesson the hard way but there's a particular place that I believe has the best waffle fry one could ever get okay it's it's supreme it's a superb waffle fry now here's what they do though
They also have regular french fries and then you can get truffle fries.
I like truffle.
That's that's next level right there.
That's sophistication And so here's what they have they have the regular french fries Which are just like the regular normal McDonald's cut french fries
and they're
mid but then you can get those regular french fries with truffle seasoning and like a dusting of Parmesan cheese
They will make you fight someone.
They will make you leave garbage at Brown Deer Park.
That's how good these fries are.
Okay.
But then they have the waffle fries and the waffle fries, just their seasoned waffle fries.
So I said to the server one day and I'm a, I go to this place not often, but consistently.
I said, waitress lady.
She said, yes.
I said, lean in close.
She's like, ooh, not like that freak.
I said, what if we experimented with something?
She's like, I like to experiment.
I was like, ma'am, you're taking this too far.
I said, can we put the truffle oil and the Parmesan cheese on the waffle fry?
She was like, what?
Let me find out for you, sir.
And they brought out my food I had them waffle fries with that truffle oil and that Parmesan cheese on and then they give you like this peppercorn ranch to dip it in I immediately started cursing And so that every time I go there, that's what I get Xavier over here.
You don't even like waffle fries on what?
I know
I They're not the ultimate on average
You're given an exception to the rule.
On average, waffle fries are pretty average.
Your example is an extraordinary example.
It's an exception to the rule.
Now, if you're looking for a great fry, you're going to go to... My great fry is... I'll say for...
But it's a some some five guys I'll say five guys They're greasy and there's they're like a flimsy.
I like a
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, if they've done right so if you get them if the person isn't You know lazy and they take them out too rarely and they're all soggy But if you get them done the right way properly with you know the Cajun the Cajun season on it.
It's it's a wrap
Know they give you a lot of them.
You never need to
order a large fry from five guys because you can get whatever small Offering they have and they just filled a bag and a bag be so greasy.
I Don't like seeing the grease.
I mean, I know it's gonna be delicious But I was like who my arteries are gonna look like that.
I don't five guys is expensive Yes, you a hamburger.
Well, you got to put all the toppings.
I'm thinking free.
So you get your double You get you some fries and get you a drink you getting close to 25 bucks
Yeah burger and fries about 20 bucks
Yeah, no Taco Bell is ridiculous You get a what's that you get the nachos and a couple of tacos and you're like
$20.
That's
Okay, not too far.
Know y'all have your own Mexican spots.
There's so much good Mexican food.
I'm not a food truck person Some of y'all square by these food trucks.
I guess there's one this in Wauwatosa This song like 68th and State Street they park in front of the there's a gross two grocery stores a metro market and then there's a Metcalfs, which used to be a century as a taco truck I don't like taco trucks because if if you get sick they can just drive away
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
You ain't gonna find one of them or they'll just hop town on you.
I like an established brick and mortar restaurant.
I don't want my food out of a truck.
You don't ever go to those taco trucks right over there, uh, uh, right off of Kilborn, where they be playing the jazz by the, that place.
You know what I'm talking
I'm talking about the one Yeah, it happens on Wednesdays only on Wednesdays, maybe they play jazz like right across the street from the The the the Marcus Performing Arts Center
don't
Well, yeah today it'll be you know they have it
During the afternoon they have a bunch of food trucks and jazz playing and stuff
Yeah, pretty soon I Didn't get an email today, so I don't think that I don't think there is one
What does this is August?
I think
Are you gonna go are you afraid they're gonna be fighting?
Which only happened one
I've been a night market for a long time.
They fought every night market damn near last year at the end always girls No, I'm not I actually ought to do one thing for me.
I shall not to fight at Bastille days Who fights at a French festival you think the French people because it's their revolution You think if somebody gonna be fighting at Bastille days, it's gonna be the French people
According to our caller the night market is tonight.
Oh, I'm not sure.
I think it's supposed to be just overcast
So it's takes place on a couple of streets Wisconsin Avenue King draw those are the main streets
And then I think that there's a little section where the food trucks are.
I think that's second Street second and Wisconsin So there's vendors set up Going east and west both sides of the street on Wisconsin Avenue and they have these areas that are like reserved for Vendor tents and they sell all sorts of stuff in a jewelry and a trinket so you can get all the little things the many local vendors that have their different wares for sale
But every night again, there'll be a gap between vendor tents.
Maybe a vendor didn't show up or there was a spot that was reserved for a vendor tent and no vendor rented their particular spot.
So
here's
We bring some chairs.
We bring a cooler.
Bring our own drinky drink.
Bring a little speaker.
So we got our own music.
So we over here.
We posted up.
We in the middle of the action Jack We right there on Wisconsin Avenue We got our little chairs and so then our friends will come by and hey you want to sit I don't meant you a drink you drink and we just out there kicking it Just people watching.
That's how we night market probably frowned upon But I didn't see anything that said I couldn't do all that stuff and then we will come in here It's a good karma brands because they got the ice machine So we need more ice for the cooler.
We just come upstairs and we get the ice and then we go back down to
To the streets.
I don't know.
I got a that's probably frowned upon now You know signs you got to tell me explicitly if I don't see a sign then I'm going to Do what I'm gonna do until they decide they want to come up with the rule to prevent me from having fun
Because I'm sure when Hughes you are no longer allowed but also you can't keep track of it because the thirst for your market hall is Packed pack cuz you got people that are in here that'll buy drinks in
here and then
I'm just bringing my own I'm bringing Matidos and mixers got to have your seltzer's got to have a little meal Bring you a little crystal light bring you a little cranberry juice.
You got to have your own little drink a drink.
You'd be dug in there.
All right, you know Sit there for just hanging out kicking.
Oh Yeah, just watching people.
Yeah, we sold
No, it was last year.
Where is this?
This is 26.
I don't think I went much last year.
But in 2024, the truth used to get VIP access because they got a little VIP little courtyard over by the federal building.
And so we would start there and then we would migrate over to our little little area we had reserved.
But that was back when the truth had strong representation.
Everybody is scattered.
So we don't it wasn't quite the same after last year after they started disbanding our group.
Started firing people people quitting.
When does you start here Xavier?
What year?
I started here 23 maybe no like at the beginning of 25 so I or yeah, yeah, yeah, or maybe the end of 24 you just got here basically Yeah, yeah, I mean when I first started here I was just doing the sports stuff So I wasn't even meant to be producing the shows.
I was only doing the sports stuff, but here I am
Yeah.
There are some documented disparities in how black students are disciplined in the Milwaukee public school system.
And it seems there is documentation and data that shows if you look at the race of the student, the disciplinary action taken against them is different with race being a variable, meaning.
if a white student commits an offense, and a black student commits the same, this word gets gray, or similar offense, the black student is much more likely to be suspended or expelled, and this is documented, so it shows an actual racial disparity in discipline.
So I'm gonna give you the statistics of how many black students there are in NPS, at least when this consent,
Decree was created a consent decree basically a lawsuit saying you got to change your ways because it's unfair and it's racist and we can prove it with documentation and data that the district is unfairly and more punitively Punishing black students and you have a certain amount of years to clear this up.
This actually started with the Obama administration his department of justice and his
Department of Education noticed some of these disparities in discipline with NPS and they required them to clean it up.
Well, now the Trump is here.
The district will be able to go back to unfairly disciplining black children because I'm going to leave you with this.
I'm going to take a break.
We're going to get into it.
But also, I'm trying to talk about where the lack of discipline comes from, and if you've got a bunch of adults throwing garbage in a park, trust me, that stuff can have an influence on the kid,
right?
It's not just cleanliness.
It's not just respect.
It's discipline.
The Trump administration says it is racist to look at racial disparities in discipline, meaning if you change policies because
Black children are getting disciplined unfairly because they're black.
The Trump administration is saying that in and of itself is racist because you are looking at race in determining different types of discipline.
So now the district can go back to disciplining however it wants without having to make any special accommodations or even be mindful of Black children getting treated differently.
But we're going to have a much larger conversation about discipline overall.
And why are black children getting disciplined at all in school?
Shouldn't they just be behaving?
Or are you guys gonna make up excuses for why they're
not?
The truth with Sherwin Hughes will be right back.
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I'm gonna call us the flagship of Milwaukee black media So we have a new I Don't know something happened.
We're all of a sudden I was getting text messages that people would text into the radio station to my phone and that's a no-go So I blocked all that Is there a way that I can look look at the text messages on the computer I got a sign into my email I ain't doing all that.
That's too much.
That's too extra
Nearly 16,000 students have been suspended in Milwaukee public schools this school year and that what year is this?
2024 That's compared to just 2.5% of suspensions for white students.
Wait a minute.
Let me read that again Nearly 16,000 students have been suspended in Milwaukee public schools so far in the 2024 school year with black students making up 80% of the suspensions
that's compared to just 2.5% of suspensions for white students according to data presented to the Milwaukee school board that was in March of 2024 just under 50% of the districts 67,495 students are black 28% are Hispanic and 9% are white and then I got some more updated information like do you know that black children aren't even the majority in NPS anymore
I think that might be a good thing because Black parents are choosing other places, spaces, and avenues to educate their children.
Can I throw out a Sherwinism?
Do you guys mind?
If you're going to go to a restaurant, go to a restaurant with someone who either owns one or who is a chef.
If you're going to go check out art to an art museum or to an art exhibit,
Go with an actual artist If you're gonna go to a live music event show maybe a small venue, maybe a big venue Go to a music event with an actual musician because people that are In those respective industries have have superior taste because they know it okay
Go to a restaurant go to ask the chef where he eats go there when restaurant owners because all restaurant owners I Mean they eat their food obviously, but they don't always eat at their restaurants.
They have their favorite restaurants and it's usually something exquisite If you've been in the restaurant business for 30 years, I trust your judgment on where I should go get some food, okay?
They even show you like different way how you order stuff.
Ordering stuff is not always just off the menu.
It's a whole bunch of different things.
Oh sure, if they have this and they have this and then you combine this and they'll make this.
I'm like, can you do that?
Oh, the restaurant like this, absolutely.
They expect you to almost customize because they want you to have the best dining experience
ever.
Send your kids to school where teachers send theirs.
Hope that makes sense ask an educator Not even what schools they recommend because they might recommend a school Just so you send your kids to the one they recommend no no no no ask them where their kids were educated In fact, you know what if you all have any interactions with or run into someone who is a teacher or a retired teacher, especially a Milwaukee public school teacher ask them where they're sent
where they sent their kids to school and what you will find is that a great number of them did not and would not send their kids to NPS and you have to wonder if you are an educator if you are in the industry and you are trained and educated in education you know some things about schools and because teachers and administrators they all they know each other they talk that's right principles and system principles from all over the place they share ideas they share best practices
Here's what screwed us when we got rid of phonics Now they do this thing where kids just look at a word and they memorize The word without knowing The breakdown of how when you have an E at the end the vows are long like they don't even do that No, we're not even how any of these kids can read so when I say that our children are not on grade level They're not even teaching them the proper mechanics.
We used to have a workbook remember to find you the phonics book
Was separate head like newspaper pages to it.
Take out your phonics book.
We're doing phonics I Don't do phonics.
No, let's make them memorize the order of the letters in the word.
It's so sad Just under 50% of the district 67,495 students are black 28% are Hispanic and 9% are white.
So what are the rest Asian Dominican
About 14% of the students who have been suspended in the 2024 school year are Hispanic, according to MPS.
80% are Black, who have been suspended.
John Jegerman, District Discipline Manager.
What kind of job is that?
Hi, what do you do for a living?
I'm the MPS District Discipline Manager.
Oh, you're awarding.
John Jaygam and district discipline manager said total suspensions in NPS are up 6.9% through February of 2024 or about 900 additional suspensions those numbers could include students who have had more than one suspension Jaygam and said during a committee on parents and community engagement meeting Jaygam and did not respond to further questions from Wisconsin Public Radio and that is where this article appears
Administrators have given monthly suspension updates since September of 2020, following an investigation by the U.S.
Department of Education's Office of Civil Rights that found NPS had disproportionately suspended or expelled black students.
So before I get into more details about that, I'm gonna take a break, come back, we're gonna dive in real deep.
Why can't they behave?
Are they disturbed?
Do they have anxiety I'm being I'm serious here because somebody needs to do a deep dive and some critical thinking like what why can't Are they bored?
Are they in the wrong grade?
Are they so far behind that they have no comprehension of what is going on and their behavior is reflective of that because isn't it worth
At least from our perspective.
The administrators and the teachers, they have a different perspective.
But as a community that is relying on this district to educate our children, at least so they can be prepared for work or prepared for higher education, because we're going to need a workforce.
Now, dammit, I want Social Security, and I don't even know how much I'm going to get.
I might get three bags of peanuts and...
Some cotton candy.
I don't know what I'm gonna get for Social Security, but damn when I want something I know if I'm gonna get Social Security Somebody got to be in a workforce work and they got to be paying into Social Security So Sherwin can get his check and I can smell retirement right around the corner.
I don't know how much longer I'm gonna be doing this Count my money.
See how long because I don't want my life to outlast my money Sherwin need to die before the money run out.
You know what I mean?
Because I ain't trying to be 72 years old being a Walmart greeter and I'd be a terrible Walmart greeter because I wouldn't even greet y'all
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Milwaukee Public
The district considers race in disciplinary practices.
The U.S.
Department of Education said yesterday, August 18th.
But before I get into that, it's going to be very confusing to some.
I got to make sure that we come away from this conversation, not being confused.
So there is a disparity in black children being disciplined.
And sometimes they'll be committing the same offense as a white child.
The white child will get a less harsh punishment.
the black child more likely to get suspended and expelled.
There's a couple ways we can look at this.
First of all, what are the black children doing and why are they doing and why can't they behave?
Okay,
Number two, when the black children commit the same offense as the white child, why are the black children being disciplined more harshly?
Like that deserves critical analysis.
One of the things that I can think of off the top of my head, and here's the thing, I don't know, I don't even know what the offenses are.
Is it pushing, fighting, shoving, cussing out a teacher?
I don't know.
But what I could, what I can deduct from this is if a white child pushes a fellow student and they get caught, teacher sees it.
Go to the principal's office, we're gonna call home.
And then maybe that's it.
Call home, parents come in, maybe have a conversation, talk to the child, whatever.
Send the kid to the principal's office, something.
And that's it.
No suspension, no expulsion.
And then you can look at the same, the same behavior.
Black child pushes a student, three day suspension, maybe one day in school suspension, or in some cases, an expulsion for being physical with another student with the white student.
And this is just me thinking out loud here.
That was the first time their first offense.
Pushing a fellow student so since the principal's office they call home Maybe there's a little conference between the assistant principal the principal and the teacher and the student They figure something out the child gets disciplined at home.
Okay boom that child was not Suspended that sounds to me like something that's reasonable child because kids you know some kids deserve to be pushed Some adults deserve to be pushed to not saying you should do it, but some y'all ask for it First offense, I don't believe in punishing people
super harsh for the first offense.
Now, if they do it again, of course, you increase the penalty with the frequency of the offense, right?
But what if the black student has been pushing five kids a year since they were in fourth grade?
By the time they get to high school, and I'm assuming that these children's disciplinary records are cumulative and they follow them.
Because wouldn't you want to know if this kid who's coming from middle school to high school?
Has been suspended before has been expelled had a city year out of school before like wouldn't you want to know that?
So I'm assuming that they keep accurate records So when you look at the offense of just pushing a child Or could be maybe even vice versa because white kids get expelled too If that white child has been pushing kids since they were in fourth grade And then they push somebody in high school now they get expelled with the black children How much leniency are they are they give it?
And if we're looking at the thing in totality, okay, well, this black child was in fact expelled or suspended for pushing a child, but it was the 10th time they did it.
We're with this white student or black student.
It was, it was their first offense.
And maybe some of the disparity can come from there, but there's still a lot of, a lot to unpack here because we need to figure out why anybody is pushing anybody in the first place and why these kids can't, can't behave.
Right.
Let me give you a few more.
little hearty details because what the Trump administration is proposing is that MPS can absolutely go right back to suspending and expelling kids with no respect to any kind of racial disparity and I assure you in some cases Yes, because this child is black and there's an understanding or a stereotype or a generalization that black students are more dangerous and they're more violent Even though we don't do a lot of school shootings.
We really don't
We'll shoot you after school, but at least black students respect the fact that hey This is a place for learning and maybe a little fist fighting, but we don't bring guns into the school It's also because it's really hard to get a gun into a black school The story I've told a million and one time this goes back to the crack era in Detroit, Michigan where there was an expectation because of the
all of the problems and the plagues of the crack epidemic, which I think we look back at the crack epidemic, and now we make it seem like it was way worse than it actually was.
It wasn't.
I mean, yeah, there was crack, but we look back on the crack era, and I was like, oh, it's responsible for all the social ills in America.
No, it wasn't.
Crack wasn't that prevalent.
I think marijuana is doing more damage now than crack ever did.
Absolutely.
And alcohol does more damage than both of them combined.
Another story.
So there was, um, I think Detroit school district is one of the first school districts to implement.
The safety protocol district wide 88 89 school year right around there.
Metal doors that can only be opened from the inside of the building.
Okay.
So if you're outside, you can't get in because there's no handle on the outside of these metal doors and then also magnetometers.
where the kids had to walk through metal detectors every single morning.
Because there was an expectation that the violence that existed in the neighborhood around the school would filter its way into the school.
So Detroit was like, we're going to be proactive and we're going to make sure that people outside in the community who may be violent can't get into the school and harm our students.
It also treats children like prisoners, even though they weren't guilty of anything.
You have all this additional security because then he's majority black schools in Detroit during the crack era Violence was the expectation So the 14 year old boy who was walking home from school in Detroit and he was about halfway, so he was halfway between the school and home and Some people started shooting not at him at each other and he gets caught in the crossfire
And so this child who's 14 years old has nothing to do with these these folks that are shooting Runs to the safest place that he knew and it wasn't home It was actually back to the school which I always found fascinating because the heavy amounts of security That have been placed in majority back schools and this is going back almost with 35 40 years because there's an expectation that black people in black neighborhoods
and black
that there's not the kind of evidence in black schools that there will be school shootings like in white schools where they won't have magnetometers, they won't have metal detectors, they won't have those metal doors even though the school shootings are much more likely out there and here's the reason why.
The veneer of whiteness is something that needs to be studied.
I wish a college would offer a PhD discipline in this.
Suburban schools don't want the appearance that they're dangerous even though they are Well, if we have metal detectors here, it's gonna look bad Yeah, but there were five school shootings in the surrounding County.
Yeah, I know that's That's unfortunate, but it'll just look bad.
It'll look violent.
It'll look like this isn't a safe place Quite honestly having metal detectors ensures everybody's safety, but it's always such a fascinating argument
as to why they won't install metal.
Now some suburban school, they got to have them.
Them kids will bring grenades to school.
But a lot of them said we reject having to put in all of these safety measures that we know will keep children safe, teachers safe, administrators safe, because well, if we put these metal detectors up, it just looks terrible.
We didn't have a brown deer until.
So if you went to a basketball game.
Yep, you had to go through a metal detector because we would play.
Surrounding city schools.
And you know, if there was like a little like a preseason game or a scrimmage and boys from Vincent came, you got to batten down the hatches.
You know what I mean?
It's Vincent and Brown deer are mile and a half apart, two miles apart.
What time is it?
45?
Take a break.
Come back.
A few more details on.
Exactly how bad it is.
There's a major problem in how often black children are committing these offenses that get them suspended and expelled.
And white children may be committing the same offense.
We don't know the frequency of the offense.
We don't know how often the black child who got suspended or expelled for pushing the kid, how many times they've actually pushed the kid.
But it's something worth examining.
And NPS was like, look, we're going to examine and have a culturally competent way of looking at why there's such a huge disparity.
less than 50% of the student body at NPS is black, but black children made up something like 80% of the suspensions and the expulsions and that's embarrassing for the district.
So the district was like, okay, we're gonna look at, are we looking through a lens of whiteness, engaging and judging black children's behavior?
Well, the Trump administration said, you can't look at race at all.
So go back to disciplining these kids the way you were that created the disparity.
The truth with Sherwin
Hughes will be right back.
One of the most revealing findings from the 2021-2022 school-eared data involved the category of quote, chronic disruption or violation of school rules.
Black students received approximately 82% of roughly 1,500 suspensions issued under that category alone.
That's important because disciplinary categories such as disruption, disrespect, and defiance can involve considerably more administrator slash teacher judgment than offenses involving something objectively bearable like possession of a weapon.
Let's talk to Linda.
You're on one on one seven the truth.
How are you?
I'm blessed.
Thank you, Sherwin.
Good morning to you and all of the good black and white people of America.
It's a great day in Milwaukee.
Sherwin, as an educator, a black female educator, I am, you know, just really broken.
But as a doctoral student, I am one that wants to find the do the research and find the answers.
But I will say that pre.
COVID times that NPS was a failing school district so post COVID times we see a bad situation that has gotten worse where you know we know that you know parents don't know how to read and that goes several generations before this this child and today's child black child I feel that is so even though children need
rules they need boundaries they need discipline yes they do and they want it but I feel that today's black child has so much on them coming at them you just describe a typical you know family that you know probably poor that you know don't have no guidance and just imagine a five six seven eight nine year old growing up in a environment like that with no
you know uh constructive guidance what have you and no safety for the child male or female and so you have these children today my god it would be a miracle for these children to survive and to become productive citizens of society having said that i think that poverty is a social and a health crisis at this time because we don't talk about the mexicans
who had the brawl over the weekend.
We don't talk about the crises of these young white males going into, that's recently escalating by the way, going into black communities and mass shootings.
Come on now, I understand that we are looking at the one aspect here and there, the low reading, the low performance and all of this, but what are all of us doing?
because I feel like all of us are contributing to today's situation of the Black child in the educational system because we are not putting forth the response necessary as a community for these children.
They don't have parents speaking up and speaking out for them.
They don't even have officials.
speaking up and speaking out for them and I'm not I'm not trying to give them a pat.
I'm a disciplinarian and I'm a strict educator but I also feel after 28 years of teaching that and on different levels elementary middle and high school that children we we put so much on them man we really do we really do.
And all they want to do is be happy and successful.
How we get them there, I think a lot of external variables contribute to their distractions and their downfalls.
And yes, I know they're not using their own critical thinking, but when you are on the outside looking at a child, you have to think about what is going on on the inside.
that child's mind especially when they growing up in a surrounding like that where there's no discipline there's no rules there's no tradition there's no reading come on now okay it's too much on these kids thank you thank you Linda
Way poorer and behaved better Black standard of living has never been this high in the history of our existence in this nation We have more money make more money have higher incomes have more disposable income
And still can receive benefits where now you can be a hundred and fifty percent a hundred and seventy five percent and two hundred percent of the poverty line and still qualify for all sorts of assistance Poverty is not it.
Let me tell you what it is There are some families that they can't take care of the kids that they got if some women can't take care of the kids She got can't feed the kids can't keep control and keep track of the kids.
She got got having abortion Don't have you can't have the baby you can't you can't take care to get what?
Y'all know that we can't save some of these kids can't save them Can't save them and that's the truth talk more about that now or three the truth with Sherwin Hughes to be right back
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The people that were involved in the organizing of the Friends and Family Fest at Brown Dear Parker Listen, they're going to be mad at me, but I'm trying to bring shame back.
There probably was a time where people would be embarrassed if their event ended up.
An hour's worth of topic on black talk radio, you would think they would say, oh, no.
How terrible.
We should be ashamed of ourselves next year.
We're going to clean up.
They barely even took responsibility for it.
In fact, you know what?
I want to finish reading the article.
Like I had to stop so many times because there's something like every sentence of every paragraph of the article is more infuriating because the park is an absolute mess.
And one of the organizers was like, oh, yeah, I guess we could have done better.
What?
That's a basic minimum and it should be a requirement.
I've never rented a picnic area before but I've gone to plenty like isn't there some fine print somewhere that you got to clean this stuff up or you'll be fine?
Is there even a Milwaukee County ordinance where you can find somebody or hold them responsible because I'm all for if somebody doesn't want to clean up their event cool but you're gonna pay for somebody else to clean it up and it's gonna be a hell of a lot more expensive or ooh I got one
You want to rent a picnic area?
$17,000 deposit.
You get your deposit back when we go and inspect the area.
And if it's clean, you get your deposit back.
You want to rent a picnic area?
Oh, you do.
Give us your firstborn.
Actually, no.
Keep your firstborn because far too many people would be willing to sacrifice their firstborn.
Find them Not gonna clean up, okay somebody clean it up and we're gonna pay them whoever this cleaning services a Lot of money and you're going to be charged The group says for Friends of Brown Deer Park volunteers spent a combined 11 hours cleaning its social media posts also raised concerns about debris and hot coals
Left behind after the gathering this is going to relate to How young people are disciplined so if there are adults and if there are parents Who I'm assuming put this event on this is not a kids event I mean there are kids there, but there were adults that signed the contracts and Rented the space and if children see that undisciplined kind of behavior Do you wonder where the lack of discipline?
Stems from when these kids are in school, but then we have this whole thing.
We got to unravel and as black folks we got to be honest about some things Look, I get it right systemic oppression institutional structural racism at every single epoch in American history some barrier has been erected and
Every time we make progress, it seems that even our politics turns away from black progress.
The other political party will erect more barriers just when we jump through one hoop.
Here comes four more.
Like, I get it.
It's a struggle.
We have to work really, really hard.
We walk into some of these rooms and
we
I know it, y'all.
Trust me, I do.
But at the end of the day, if you take all that away.
This is just the the cross that we bear as black people That just it comes along with it But also when we win and we accomplish the glory is so much sweeter because you are doing it for history You are setting a tone that listen to me when I tell you this no matter what they throw at us cool because they tried everything They tried it all we still come out victorious.
They cannot stop us right now.
It seems like we are stopping ourselves I'm gonna ask a real simple question.
It should be rhetorical
As much as you may hate the system and I'm sure some of y'all even hate capitalism which is confusing to me because black people love money and we love entrepreneurship We love making profit because sometimes you know if you're black and talented white folks will come for you because you make them look bad You make them look lazy and you make them look mediocre.
Oh, they hate that So sometimes we just leave corporate America and we start our own corporate America We start our own little businesses shout out to all the people that do that But then even if you want loans and resources for your business if you black you got to jump through more hoops and hurdles
than anybody else does, so I get it.
At the end of the day, can you behave?
Can you behave?
Can you act like a normal, rational human being?
Can you get into a disagreement with somebody and not yell and scream and cuss them out?
Can you keep your tone the same even if you have been wrong?
Can you can you debate an issue without getting in your feelings?
Can you behave?
Can you carry yourself with a level of maturity?
Not just fit for an adult but fit for a child to watch and learn from this should be a rhetorical question Can you behave with all the oppression and all the racism and all the white folks that are clearly trying to kill you?
Table salt will kill more black people than white people will just to let you know
I don't care how many cops kill black people Not exercising is gonna kill dramatically more.
So just want to throw that out there in case we want to blame something on our death French fries, which are delicious.
I like crinkle-cut But let me tell you the ultimate The waffle fry No
You don't like
I like to dip things.
I like sauces.
I like dipping the waffle fry has got.
And then the sauce, it can get all up in the holes and you can fully sauce.
Your season waffle for I'm gonna give you all a little hack even though I shouldn't I got to stop revealing my places I go to certain places.
Oh like yesterday during the storm.
I wasn't at home.
I was in the streets I was at Club Charlie's all their furniture blew away and my stupid ass parked a Tesla under a tree and it was raining so bad because right when the touch the tornado touched down in West Dallas some of that wind was blowing eastward and it's just leaves and sticks and branches flying off the damn
Tree and all the furniture of Charlie's umbrellas was blown away because they got patio furniture I feel back because the poor server waitress girl she put on her like a Windbreaker and she almost got blown away and we all standing inside Club Charlie's looking at her out the window like I hope she makes it nobody tried to help her so The white girl gave up.
She's like I'm not bringing all these umbrellas in here and stuff just started blowing down the street
I'm thinking to myself my Tesla's gonna get crushed by a tree because I partner under a tree It was alright.
I just had a stick on my hood just a branch not even a branch.
It's like a stick big stick, but it was okay be careful out there ladies Lewis Vasquez is this him?
He looks black
Let me let his hair texture.
You know, we got to look at determining factors.
So he he looks Afro-Latino.
Y'all confuse me with that.
Black African American, black Afro-Latino, white Hispanic, white non-Hispanic.
Listen, pick a side, y'all.
Come on.
Why are you adding?
Can we get back to the waffle fries for a second?
I don't like how you responded.
So here's what you do you go to I can't say the name We're also gonna be starting back our segments with visit Milwaukee or I'm gonna be forced to tell y'all all the fun places to go But I got to separate there's places that I know of that I'm familiar with and I think you all would enjoy and I might promote and talk about those But then there's the places that I go to and I love y'all so much.
You have no much no idea Rather how much I love you guys, but I don't want to see you when I'm in the street
I don't if I run into you cool but I'm not gonna you're not invited catch me if you can't if you see me out you see me up but I'm not telling you where I'm going I learned that lesson the hard way but there's a particular place that I believe has the best waffle fry one could ever get okay it's it's supreme it's a superb waffle fry now here's what they do though
They also have regular french fries and then you can get truffle fries.
I like truffle.
That's that's next level right there.
That's sophistication And so here's what they have they have the regular french fries Which are just like the regular normal McDonald's cut french fries
and they're
mid but then you can get those regular french fries with truffle seasoning and like a dusting of Parmesan cheese
They will make you fight someone.
They will make you leave garbage at Brown Deer Park.
That's how good these fries are.
Okay.
But then they have the waffle fries and the waffle fries, just their seasoned waffle fries.
So I said to the server one day and I'm a, I go to this place not often, but consistently.
I said, waitress lady.
She said, yes.
I said, lean in close.
She's like, ooh, not like that freak.
I said, what if we experimented with something?
She's like, I like to experiment.
I was like, ma'am, you're taking this too far.
I said, can we put the truffle oil and the Parmesan cheese on the waffle fry?
She was like, what?
Let me find out for you, sir.
And they brought out my food I had them waffle fries with that truffle oil and that Parmesan cheese on and then they give you like this peppercorn ranch to dip it in I immediately started cursing And so that every time I go there, that's what I get Xavier over here.
You don't even like waffle fries on what?
I know
I They're not the ultimate on average
You're given an exception to the rule.
On average, waffle fries are pretty average.
Your example is an extraordinary example.
It's an exception to the rule.
Now, if you're looking for a great fry, you're going to go to... My great fry is... I'll say for...
But it's a some some five guys I'll say five guys They're greasy and there's they're like a flimsy.
I like a
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, if they've done right so if you get them if the person isn't You know lazy and they take them out too rarely and they're all soggy But if you get them done the right way properly with you know the Cajun the Cajun season on it.
It's it's a wrap
Know they give you a lot of them.
You never need to
order a large fry from five guys because you can get whatever small Offering they have and they just filled a bag and a bag be so greasy.
I Don't like seeing the grease.
I mean, I know it's gonna be delicious But I was like who my arteries are gonna look like that.
I don't five guys is expensive Yes, you a hamburger.
Well, you got to put all the toppings.
I'm thinking free.
So you get your double You get you some fries and get you a drink you getting close to 25 bucks
Yeah burger and fries about 20 bucks
Yeah, no Taco Bell is ridiculous You get a what's that you get the nachos and a couple of tacos and you're like
$20.
That's
Okay, not too far.
Know y'all have your own Mexican spots.
There's so much good Mexican food.
I'm not a food truck person Some of y'all square by these food trucks.
I guess there's one this in Wauwatosa This song like 68th and State Street they park in front of the there's a gross two grocery stores a metro market and then there's a Metcalfs, which used to be a century as a taco truck I don't like taco trucks because if if you get sick they can just drive away
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
You ain't gonna find one of them or they'll just hop town on you.
I like an established brick and mortar restaurant.
I don't want my food out of a truck.
You don't ever go to those taco trucks right over there, uh, uh, right off of Kilborn, where they be playing the jazz by the, that place.
You know what I'm talking
I'm talking about the one Yeah, it happens on Wednesdays only on Wednesdays, maybe they play jazz like right across the street from the The the the Marcus Performing Arts Center
don't
Well, yeah today it'll be you know they have it
During the afternoon they have a bunch of food trucks and jazz playing and stuff
Yeah, pretty soon I Didn't get an email today, so I don't think that I don't think there is one
What does this is August?
I think
Are you gonna go are you afraid they're gonna be fighting?
Which only happened one
I've been a night market for a long time.
They fought every night market damn near last year at the end always girls No, I'm not I actually ought to do one thing for me.
I shall not to fight at Bastille days Who fights at a French festival you think the French people because it's their revolution You think if somebody gonna be fighting at Bastille days, it's gonna be the French people
According to our caller the night market is tonight.
Oh, I'm not sure.
I think it's supposed to be just overcast
So it's takes place on a couple of streets Wisconsin Avenue King draw those are the main streets
And then I think that there's a little section where the food trucks are.
I think that's second Street second and Wisconsin So there's vendors set up Going east and west both sides of the street on Wisconsin Avenue and they have these areas that are like reserved for Vendor tents and they sell all sorts of stuff in a jewelry and a trinket so you can get all the little things the many local vendors that have their different wares for sale
But every night again, there'll be a gap between vendor tents.
Maybe a vendor didn't show up or there was a spot that was reserved for a vendor tent and no vendor rented their particular spot.
So
here's
We bring some chairs.
We bring a cooler.
Bring our own drinky drink.
Bring a little speaker.
So we got our own music.
So we over here.
We posted up.
We in the middle of the action Jack We right there on Wisconsin Avenue We got our little chairs and so then our friends will come by and hey you want to sit I don't meant you a drink you drink and we just out there kicking it Just people watching.
That's how we night market probably frowned upon But I didn't see anything that said I couldn't do all that stuff and then we will come in here It's a good karma brands because they got the ice machine So we need more ice for the cooler.
We just come upstairs and we get the ice and then we go back down to
To the streets.
I don't know.
I got a that's probably frowned upon now You know signs you got to tell me explicitly if I don't see a sign then I'm going to Do what I'm gonna do until they decide they want to come up with the rule to prevent me from having fun
Because I'm sure when Hughes you are no longer allowed but also you can't keep track of it because the thirst for your market hall is Packed pack cuz you got people that are in here that'll buy drinks in
here and then
I'm just bringing my own I'm bringing Matidos and mixers got to have your seltzer's got to have a little meal Bring you a little crystal light bring you a little cranberry juice.
You got to have your own little drink a drink.
You'd be dug in there.
All right, you know Sit there for just hanging out kicking.
Oh Yeah, just watching people.
Yeah, we sold
No, it was last year.
Where is this?
This is 26.
I don't think I went much last year.
But in 2024, the truth used to get VIP access because they got a little VIP little courtyard over by the federal building.
And so we would start there and then we would migrate over to our little little area we had reserved.
But that was back when the truth had strong representation.
Everybody is scattered.
So we don't it wasn't quite the same after last year after they started disbanding our group.
Started firing people people quitting.
When does you start here Xavier?
What year?
I started here 23 maybe no like at the beginning of 25 so I or yeah, yeah, yeah, or maybe the end of 24 you just got here basically Yeah, yeah, I mean when I first started here I was just doing the sports stuff So I wasn't even meant to be producing the shows.
I was only doing the sports stuff, but here I am
Yeah.
There are some documented disparities in how black students are disciplined in the Milwaukee public school system.
And it seems there is documentation and data that shows if you look at the race of the student, the disciplinary action taken against them is different with race being a variable, meaning.
if a white student commits an offense, and a black student commits the same, this word gets gray, or similar offense, the black student is much more likely to be suspended or expelled, and this is documented, so it shows an actual racial disparity in discipline.
So I'm gonna give you the statistics of how many black students there are in NPS, at least when this consent,
Decree was created a consent decree basically a lawsuit saying you got to change your ways because it's unfair and it's racist and we can prove it with documentation and data that the district is unfairly and more punitively Punishing black students and you have a certain amount of years to clear this up.
This actually started with the Obama administration his department of justice and his
Department of Education noticed some of these disparities in discipline with NPS and they required them to clean it up.
Well, now the Trump is here.
The district will be able to go back to unfairly disciplining black children because I'm going to leave you with this.
I'm going to take a break.
We're going to get into it.
But also, I'm trying to talk about where the lack of discipline comes from, and if you've got a bunch of adults throwing garbage in a park, trust me, that stuff can have an influence on the kid,
right?
It's not just cleanliness.
It's not just respect.
It's discipline.
The Trump administration says it is racist to look at racial disparities in discipline, meaning if you change policies because
Black children are getting disciplined unfairly because they're black.
The Trump administration is saying that in and of itself is racist because you are looking at race in determining different types of discipline.
So now the district can go back to disciplining however it wants without having to make any special accommodations or even be mindful of Black children getting treated differently.
But we're going to have a much larger conversation about discipline overall.
And why are black children getting disciplined at all in school?
Shouldn't they just be behaving?
Or are you guys gonna make up excuses for why they're
not?
The truth with Sherwin Hughes will be right back.
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I'm gonna call us the flagship of Milwaukee black media So we have a new I Don't know something happened.
We're all of a sudden I was getting text messages that people would text into the radio station to my phone and that's a no-go So I blocked all that Is there a way that I can look look at the text messages on the computer I got a sign into my email I ain't doing all that.
That's too much.
That's too extra
Nearly 16,000 students have been suspended in Milwaukee public schools this school year and that what year is this?
2024 That's compared to just 2.5% of suspensions for white students.
Wait a minute.
Let me read that again Nearly 16,000 students have been suspended in Milwaukee public schools so far in the 2024 school year with black students making up 80% of the suspensions
that's compared to just 2.5% of suspensions for white students according to data presented to the Milwaukee school board that was in March of 2024 just under 50% of the districts 67,495 students are black 28% are Hispanic and 9% are white and then I got some more updated information like do you know that black children aren't even the majority in NPS anymore
I think that might be a good thing because Black parents are choosing other places, spaces, and avenues to educate their children.
Can I throw out a Sherwinism?
Do you guys mind?
If you're going to go to a restaurant, go to a restaurant with someone who either owns one or who is a chef.
If you're going to go check out art to an art museum or to an art exhibit,
Go with an actual artist If you're gonna go to a live music event show maybe a small venue, maybe a big venue Go to a music event with an actual musician because people that are In those respective industries have have superior taste because they know it okay
Go to a restaurant go to ask the chef where he eats go there when restaurant owners because all restaurant owners I Mean they eat their food obviously, but they don't always eat at their restaurants.
They have their favorite restaurants and it's usually something exquisite If you've been in the restaurant business for 30 years, I trust your judgment on where I should go get some food, okay?
They even show you like different way how you order stuff.
Ordering stuff is not always just off the menu.
It's a whole bunch of different things.
Oh sure, if they have this and they have this and then you combine this and they'll make this.
I'm like, can you do that?
Oh, the restaurant like this, absolutely.
They expect you to almost customize because they want you to have the best dining experience
ever.
Send your kids to school where teachers send theirs.
Hope that makes sense ask an educator Not even what schools they recommend because they might recommend a school Just so you send your kids to the one they recommend no no no no ask them where their kids were educated In fact, you know what if you all have any interactions with or run into someone who is a teacher or a retired teacher, especially a Milwaukee public school teacher ask them where they're sent
where they sent their kids to school and what you will find is that a great number of them did not and would not send their kids to NPS and you have to wonder if you are an educator if you are in the industry and you are trained and educated in education you know some things about schools and because teachers and administrators they all they know each other they talk that's right principles and system principles from all over the place they share ideas they share best practices
Here's what screwed us when we got rid of phonics Now they do this thing where kids just look at a word and they memorize The word without knowing The breakdown of how when you have an E at the end the vows are long like they don't even do that No, we're not even how any of these kids can read so when I say that our children are not on grade level They're not even teaching them the proper mechanics.
We used to have a workbook remember to find you the phonics book
Was separate head like newspaper pages to it.
Take out your phonics book.
We're doing phonics I Don't do phonics.
No, let's make them memorize the order of the letters in the word.
It's so sad Just under 50% of the district 67,495 students are black 28% are Hispanic and 9% are white.
So what are the rest Asian Dominican
About 14% of the students who have been suspended in the 2024 school year are Hispanic, according to MPS.
80% are Black, who have been suspended.
John Jegerman, District Discipline Manager.
What kind of job is that?
Hi, what do you do for a living?
I'm the MPS District Discipline Manager.
Oh, you're awarding.
John Jaygam and district discipline manager said total suspensions in NPS are up 6.9% through February of 2024 or about 900 additional suspensions those numbers could include students who have had more than one suspension Jaygam and said during a committee on parents and community engagement meeting Jaygam and did not respond to further questions from Wisconsin Public Radio and that is where this article appears
Administrators have given monthly suspension updates since September of 2020, following an investigation by the U.S.
Department of Education's Office of Civil Rights that found NPS had disproportionately suspended or expelled black students.
So before I get into more details about that, I'm gonna take a break, come back, we're gonna dive in real deep.
Why can't they behave?
Are they disturbed?
Do they have anxiety I'm being I'm serious here because somebody needs to do a deep dive and some critical thinking like what why can't Are they bored?
Are they in the wrong grade?
Are they so far behind that they have no comprehension of what is going on and their behavior is reflective of that because isn't it worth
At least from our perspective.
The administrators and the teachers, they have a different perspective.
But as a community that is relying on this district to educate our children, at least so they can be prepared for work or prepared for higher education, because we're going to need a workforce.
Now, dammit, I want Social Security, and I don't even know how much I'm going to get.
I might get three bags of peanuts and...
Some cotton candy.
I don't know what I'm gonna get for Social Security, but damn when I want something I know if I'm gonna get Social Security Somebody got to be in a workforce work and they got to be paying into Social Security So Sherwin can get his check and I can smell retirement right around the corner.
I don't know how much longer I'm gonna be doing this Count my money.
See how long because I don't want my life to outlast my money Sherwin need to die before the money run out.
You know what I mean?
Because I ain't trying to be 72 years old being a Walmart greeter and I'd be a terrible Walmart greeter because I wouldn't even greet y'all
Take a break come back Gonna try and figure out what what's happening y'all like why can't the kids be a The truth with Sherwin Hughes on 101 7 FM will be right back
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Milwaukee Public
The district considers race in disciplinary practices.
The U.S.
Department of Education said yesterday, August 18th.
But before I get into that, it's going to be very confusing to some.
I got to make sure that we come away from this conversation, not being confused.
So there is a disparity in black children being disciplined.
And sometimes they'll be committing the same offense as a white child.
The white child will get a less harsh punishment.
the black child more likely to get suspended and expelled.
There's a couple ways we can look at this.
First of all, what are the black children doing and why are they doing and why can't they behave?
Okay,
Number two, when the black children commit the same offense as the white child, why are the black children being disciplined more harshly?
Like that deserves critical analysis.
One of the things that I can think of off the top of my head, and here's the thing, I don't know, I don't even know what the offenses are.
Is it pushing, fighting, shoving, cussing out a teacher?
I don't know.
But what I could, what I can deduct from this is if a white child pushes a fellow student and they get caught, teacher sees it.
Go to the principal's office, we're gonna call home.
And then maybe that's it.
Call home, parents come in, maybe have a conversation, talk to the child, whatever.
Send the kid to the principal's office, something.
And that's it.
No suspension, no expulsion.
And then you can look at the same, the same behavior.
Black child pushes a student, three day suspension, maybe one day in school suspension, or in some cases, an expulsion for being physical with another student with the white student.
And this is just me thinking out loud here.
That was the first time their first offense.
Pushing a fellow student so since the principal's office they call home Maybe there's a little conference between the assistant principal the principal and the teacher and the student They figure something out the child gets disciplined at home.
Okay boom that child was not Suspended that sounds to me like something that's reasonable child because kids you know some kids deserve to be pushed Some adults deserve to be pushed to not saying you should do it, but some y'all ask for it First offense, I don't believe in punishing people
super harsh for the first offense.
Now, if they do it again, of course, you increase the penalty with the frequency of the offense, right?
But what if the black student has been pushing five kids a year since they were in fourth grade?
By the time they get to high school, and I'm assuming that these children's disciplinary records are cumulative and they follow them.
Because wouldn't you want to know if this kid who's coming from middle school to high school?
Has been suspended before has been expelled had a city year out of school before like wouldn't you want to know that?
So I'm assuming that they keep accurate records So when you look at the offense of just pushing a child Or could be maybe even vice versa because white kids get expelled too If that white child has been pushing kids since they were in fourth grade And then they push somebody in high school now they get expelled with the black children How much leniency are they are they give it?
And if we're looking at the thing in totality, okay, well, this black child was in fact expelled or suspended for pushing a child, but it was the 10th time they did it.
We're with this white student or black student.
It was, it was their first offense.
And maybe some of the disparity can come from there, but there's still a lot of, a lot to unpack here because we need to figure out why anybody is pushing anybody in the first place and why these kids can't, can't behave.
Right.
Let me give you a few more.
little hearty details because what the Trump administration is proposing is that MPS can absolutely go right back to suspending and expelling kids with no respect to any kind of racial disparity and I assure you in some cases Yes, because this child is black and there's an understanding or a stereotype or a generalization that black students are more dangerous and they're more violent Even though we don't do a lot of school shootings.
We really don't
We'll shoot you after school, but at least black students respect the fact that hey This is a place for learning and maybe a little fist fighting, but we don't bring guns into the school It's also because it's really hard to get a gun into a black school The story I've told a million and one time this goes back to the crack era in Detroit, Michigan where there was an expectation because of the
all of the problems and the plagues of the crack epidemic, which I think we look back at the crack epidemic, and now we make it seem like it was way worse than it actually was.
It wasn't.
I mean, yeah, there was crack, but we look back on the crack era, and I was like, oh, it's responsible for all the social ills in America.
No, it wasn't.
Crack wasn't that prevalent.
I think marijuana is doing more damage now than crack ever did.
Absolutely.
And alcohol does more damage than both of them combined.
Another story.
So there was, um, I think Detroit school district is one of the first school districts to implement.
The safety protocol district wide 88 89 school year right around there.
Metal doors that can only be opened from the inside of the building.
Okay.
So if you're outside, you can't get in because there's no handle on the outside of these metal doors and then also magnetometers.
where the kids had to walk through metal detectors every single morning.
Because there was an expectation that the violence that existed in the neighborhood around the school would filter its way into the school.
So Detroit was like, we're going to be proactive and we're going to make sure that people outside in the community who may be violent can't get into the school and harm our students.
It also treats children like prisoners, even though they weren't guilty of anything.
You have all this additional security because then he's majority black schools in Detroit during the crack era Violence was the expectation So the 14 year old boy who was walking home from school in Detroit and he was about halfway, so he was halfway between the school and home and Some people started shooting not at him at each other and he gets caught in the crossfire
And so this child who's 14 years old has nothing to do with these these folks that are shooting Runs to the safest place that he knew and it wasn't home It was actually back to the school which I always found fascinating because the heavy amounts of security That have been placed in majority back schools and this is going back almost with 35 40 years because there's an expectation that black people in black neighborhoods
and black
that there's not the kind of evidence in black schools that there will be school shootings like in white schools where they won't have magnetometers, they won't have metal detectors, they won't have those metal doors even though the school shootings are much more likely out there and here's the reason why.
The veneer of whiteness is something that needs to be studied.
I wish a college would offer a PhD discipline in this.
Suburban schools don't want the appearance that they're dangerous even though they are Well, if we have metal detectors here, it's gonna look bad Yeah, but there were five school shootings in the surrounding County.
Yeah, I know that's That's unfortunate, but it'll just look bad.
It'll look violent.
It'll look like this isn't a safe place Quite honestly having metal detectors ensures everybody's safety, but it's always such a fascinating argument
as to why they won't install metal.
Now some suburban school, they got to have them.
Them kids will bring grenades to school.
But a lot of them said we reject having to put in all of these safety measures that we know will keep children safe, teachers safe, administrators safe, because well, if we put these metal detectors up, it just looks terrible.
We didn't have a brown deer until.
So if you went to a basketball game.
Yep, you had to go through a metal detector because we would play.
Surrounding city schools.
And you know, if there was like a little like a preseason game or a scrimmage and boys from Vincent came, you got to batten down the hatches.
You know what I mean?
It's Vincent and Brown deer are mile and a half apart, two miles apart.
What time is it?
45?
Take a break.
Come back.
A few more details on.
Exactly how bad it is.
There's a major problem in how often black children are committing these offenses that get them suspended and expelled.
And white children may be committing the same offense.
We don't know the frequency of the offense.
We don't know how often the black child who got suspended or expelled for pushing the kid, how many times they've actually pushed the kid.
But it's something worth examining.
And NPS was like, look, we're going to examine and have a culturally competent way of looking at why there's such a huge disparity.
less than 50% of the student body at NPS is black, but black children made up something like 80% of the suspensions and the expulsions and that's embarrassing for the district.
So the district was like, okay, we're gonna look at, are we looking through a lens of whiteness, engaging and judging black children's behavior?
Well, the Trump administration said, you can't look at race at all.
So go back to disciplining these kids the way you were that created the disparity.
The truth with Sherwin
Hughes will be right back.
One of the most revealing findings from the 2021-2022 school-eared data involved the category of quote, chronic disruption or violation of school rules.
Black students received approximately 82% of roughly 1,500 suspensions issued under that category alone.
That's important because disciplinary categories such as disruption, disrespect, and defiance can involve considerably more administrator slash teacher judgment than offenses involving something objectively bearable like possession of a weapon.
Let's talk to Linda.
You're on one on one seven the truth.
How are you?
I'm blessed.
Thank you, Sherwin.
Good morning to you and all of the good black and white people of America.
It's a great day in Milwaukee.
Sherwin, as an educator, a black female educator, I am, you know, just really broken.
But as a doctoral student, I am one that wants to find the do the research and find the answers.
But I will say that pre.
COVID times that NPS was a failing school district so post COVID times we see a bad situation that has gotten worse where you know we know that you know parents don't know how to read and that goes several generations before this this child and today's child black child I feel that is so even though children need
rules they need boundaries they need discipline yes they do and they want it but I feel that today's black child has so much on them coming at them you just describe a typical you know family that you know probably poor that you know don't have no guidance and just imagine a five six seven eight nine year old growing up in a environment like that with no
you know uh constructive guidance what have you and no safety for the child male or female and so you have these children today my god it would be a miracle for these children to survive and to become productive citizens of society having said that i think that poverty is a social and a health crisis at this time because we don't talk about the mexicans
who had the brawl over the weekend.
We don't talk about the crises of these young white males going into, that's recently escalating by the way, going into black communities and mass shootings.
Come on now, I understand that we are looking at the one aspect here and there, the low reading, the low performance and all of this, but what are all of us doing?
because I feel like all of us are contributing to today's situation of the Black child in the educational system because we are not putting forth the response necessary as a community for these children.
They don't have parents speaking up and speaking out for them.
They don't even have officials.
speaking up and speaking out for them and I'm not I'm not trying to give them a pat.
I'm a disciplinarian and I'm a strict educator but I also feel after 28 years of teaching that and on different levels elementary middle and high school that children we we put so much on them man we really do we really do.
And all they want to do is be happy and successful.
How we get them there, I think a lot of external variables contribute to their distractions and their downfalls.
And yes, I know they're not using their own critical thinking, but when you are on the outside looking at a child, you have to think about what is going on on the inside.
that child's mind especially when they growing up in a surrounding like that where there's no discipline there's no rules there's no tradition there's no reading come on now okay it's too much on these kids thank you thank you Linda
Way poorer and behaved better Black standard of living has never been this high in the history of our existence in this nation We have more money make more money have higher incomes have more disposable income
And still can receive benefits where now you can be a hundred and fifty percent a hundred and seventy five percent and two hundred percent of the poverty line and still qualify for all sorts of assistance Poverty is not it.
Let me tell you what it is There are some families that they can't take care of the kids that they got if some women can't take care of the kids She got can't feed the kids can't keep control and keep track of the kids.
She got got having abortion Don't have you can't have the baby you can't you can't take care to get what?
Y'all know that we can't save some of these kids can't save them Can't save them and that's the truth talk more about that now or three the truth with Sherwin Hughes to be right back
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Welcome
to our three of the truth with me sure use Talking about these I guess discipline issues and the disparities that exist
between black students and white students where the disparity is the most pronounced.
Why can't the kids behave?
It's always poverty's problem, right?
Are y'all honestly gonna tell me that having more money makes you behave better?
Having more money makes your behavior in some cases worse because you can get away with it.
Stop blaming poverty.
Like the standard of living in a poorest state in America, which I think It teeters back and forth and they're always red states.
I think it's Mississippi between Mississippi, Louisiana and Arkansas.
Those are per capita income are the poorest Still better than like the country of England our poorest states Have a higher per capita income than most of Western Europe.
So poverty is relative problem is there's so much
consumerism that whatever money people have as far as income goes they just they spend it and there's also much more sensitive to just like price fluctuations but poverty is not an excuse so you mean to tell me that we have to get rid of poverty we got to extinguish poverty in order for children to be able to behave come on now you didn't know that's ridiculous there are some people no matter how much money they make they're gonna be poor
Financially they're gonna be poor, but also morally they're gonna be bankrupt as well.
So it's not It's not poverty.
I think people overestimate What money can do You're the same person You're just a better financed version a more extreme version of who you were if you were a jerk when you're poor
You get rich now you're a rich jerk which I would argue is a worst kind of jerk to be because now you got money you have like this Inflated sense of self and then here's what's crazy.
You can be poor your whole life.
I've seen it people throw up dirt poor right Get a little bit of money Maybe a lot of money you guess what the first thing they do is hey poor people hate them
How dare you look at your poverty-stricken self.
I don't want your kind in here, but sir You were at the same soup kitchen two years ago.
Ah, that was the old me Now I'm rich.
No money don't do it.
I Think that there are some people that They can't raise kids can we why don't we ever want to admit that if men could get pregnant
Do you have any idea how many abortions we'd have?
It'd be a part of our routine.
Hey dawg what you got going on this weekend?
Man,
I got pregnant again dawg Yeah, I'm feeling you know, I mean Yeah, I'm gonna go get that thing taking care of whatever cuz you know, I ain't trying to be no pappy So y'all want to meet at the spot?
I'm just yeah, I'm gonna go down to the little clinic whatever I ain't gonna take long It's a I'm supposed to be laid up for a couple days with bed rest, but I'm gonna be in the streets tonight
So, yeah, man, my appointment is, hey, you want to take me, dog?
You want to take me to the abortion doctor?
Yeah, yeah, I got you, dog.
And actually, you know what?
Can you take me next week?
Yeah, I got you.
We'd have so many abortions.
Especially if.
Let's reverse the rules.
Man sends a text.
It's always a text.
Text a woman.
I'm late.
And then she says, yeah, and ain't mine.
I don't I hate.
We text the woman.
If men could get pregnant, we send a text.
Get that late text saying, I'm late text.
The woman is like, I don't know, but I want to have nothing to do with you or that baby.
We're going to have an abortion.
The woman said she don't want to be a man, me to the baby.
What are we going to do?
Ain't raising this baby on our own cost too much.
Life is already hard enough.
Have abortion a man's right to choose His body his choice.
We totally wouldn't I'm of course I'm not over here telling women what to do But I'm just saying I know men and if there is something that will be inconvenient or expensive or a burden or Stifle our progress because men get a lot of their work Like who we are and how we are judged is based on what we can earn and what we can do and how far we can go when it comes to success and being a professional
That's it.
So if there is something that gets in the way of that and we can we can lower or or mitigate or eliminate that barrier, I promise you we would do it.
It would just be smart thinking.
I'm gonna have to be I'm gonna have to take maternity leave dog.
I'm trying to get this promotion son.
You know what I mean?
Try to go on vacation.
I can't go on vacation with a pregnant belly.
Yeah, I'm just gonna go ahead.
We would just
have some people can't parent.
Why is that such a tough conversation to have that we feel like because somebody
has children We owe them everything and we got to take care of their kids The state has to take care of their kids.
They have almost no skin in the game whatsoever Their kids can grow up to be a murderer and then I will say to you if you ever been a victim of a violent crime And it was a child with a mom and could say yeah, he's always been a problem.
I never could ever I couldn't discipline him.
He would never listen.
He never went to school.
He cut school He was doing drugs.
Why why you shouldn't have had him you should because now he just killed somebody
And if you're the victim of a violent crime and the mother's telling you about their child, like, oh, yeah, he's always been a problem.
Your family that has suffered at the hands of that child that even the mama and the daddy will admit, oh, yeah, we've never been able to do anything with him.
Don't you wish that child was never born?
Because then your child will still be alive.
And we've got to look at things in those terms for some reason.
That's, oh, we can't talk about it like that.
Maybe we should.
Maybe that's the part of the conversation that's missing.
And women, you ain't got to explain nothing to nobody.
You don't want to have that baby.
Don't have it.
Don't.
If you can't take care of it, and if that child might end up being a neglected child is a problem.
Six ways from Sunday, they're going to be your problem.
They're going to seek attention in the wrong places.
They're going to use drugs and alcohol more likely.
They're going to have anxiety, all this stuff.
And we know what's going to happen.
We know it.
And here's what's crazy.
You can even see it in your other children.
Not to mention an adult that grows up That wasn't loved and wasn't cared for by their parents.
We got to be realistic about this stuff now We got to put everything out on the table because our community is exploding Your relationships are going to fail if you done did not have a solid
Parental family or community foundation and connection you are doomed.
Here's what you're not gonna do You had a messed up upbringing.
It's not your fault.
It's horrible.
It's a bad bad thing But what you ain't gonna do is you can't find a partner because you're screwed up You can't blame the opposite sex because you can't find somebody like I read some of this stuff now
There are people that are obviously troubled never had a solid relationship never even had a solid like family relationship, right?
They weren't love they weren't nurtured They weren't cared for and they get out into the world where people care about you even less once you get out into the world The love that you needed to carry you through life should have came from your family because you can't expect it out in the world because the world is a monster and parents got to prepare their kids for that The world is gonna eat you up.
You're not prepared for it.
We don't have that foundation of love
Being cared for being taken care of and building your self-esteem and allow these damn kids to fail You bulldozer parents don't even let their kids mess up.
I messed up a lot.
My parents are like, all right, that's your ass buddy That's it that you're gonna get some discipline because you got to learn
I Don't want my child to ever see any consequences.
Get out into the world all these men out here are terrible It ain't them you ever ask yourself why you attract them same with guys These women out here are terrible.
Why are you attracting terrible women?
What you gotta look?
I know what the role I played I've I Can't even I won't blame a single woman That I've ever been with Dated any of that there was a horrible human being that's me
I attracted that trash.
She gonna be who she is.
You know what I mean?
I can't even do nothing about her.
That's who she is.
Genetically, she screwed up and I didn't screw her up, but she just is screwed up.
How am I attracted to the screwed up?
That's me.
That's not her problem.
She's nuts.
How am I?
I like a little crazy though.
The who in the right amounts, but the problem is I like crazy.
That can be controlled Latina crazy.
No, no, no, no, not that's too much.
I Like that kind of crazy.
I can't deal with
not latinas.
I don't know Speaking a little Spanish to you.
can't speak
me the Latinas though, I mean they they look good
or what are you being?
No, not being no, no, no
No, yo quiero yo quisiera.
Like coming out of party out
of no one can do it.
Grande torta.
That's a big, a big, big fat, fat sandwich girl, big fat girl.
Torta big fatty.
No, no, relax.
Everybody calm down.
So don't blame the other people.
Sometimes people had real if you had If you didn't have good role models and good examples that you could that you could mimic It's tough I'm not saying it's impossible But kids are growing up With really bad examples every whether it be the garbage that was left at an event at Brown Deer Park or just what they see I've often not that y'all care, but I'm gonna tell you anyway Sherwin, what's your type?
Because hell, I don't even know if I line up some of the women that I've been involved with.
I was going through some stuff clearly.
Like
Some big mamas?
ain't for me.
You don't like the big mamas?
Not for me.
nah, it's not me.
Well, they say more cushion for the pushing or
who
But they're just all so different when I had to figure out, okay, what is my type?
I gotta figure out why I'm attracting what I'm attracting.
It also depends on where I'm at in life.
If I'm in a good place in life, then the people, just the energy of the people that come around me, and this is with everybody.
If you're doing good, good energy comes around you, and so will good people.
If you're not doing good, the people that find their way to you will also be reflective of just where you are.
So just watch your energy, you know what I mean?
Get your energy up and the people will improve.
But what I've found that
They do have in common at least the ones that I've had good relationships with.
Some people you may have dated and timing is bad, but you're still cool.
Like I got some homegirls that, you know, we dated for a little bit, didn't work out.
Everybody's still cool.
We still can kick it.
We still talk.
I tell them, hey, you need something.
I got you and vice versa.
I appreciate that.
But you know what?
For me, work the best.
And that's why you can't limit yourself to race.
Women that have relationships with their fathers.
There's nothing There's nothing that compares that actually had that had their dads in there like the parents didn't have to be married but she Got her father's perspective on life and was raised by her father and loved by her father and disciplined by her father and has a healthy respect for who her father was This completely changes the woman's perspective on men now you got some women to grow up in a household full of women.
It's worse with men
But when a girl grows up in a household full of mamas grandmamas and aunties not a man in sight not a husband in sight Not a boyfriend in sight and these dudes are coming and going these little girls growing up thinking she got 75 uncles because every time her mom on her auntie brings somebody around this is just your uncle stop saying that to them girls Got these girls messed up in the head And if a girl grows up hearing the women in her life her mom or her grandmother, they always have 35 aunties
If every one of those women is talking bad about men, because they can't keep a man or these men are terrible, these men are this, how do you think that's going to impact that girl?
And then when she grows up and gets out into the real world, she's going to have a healthy disrespect for men off jump because that's all she's heard.
I'm talking about in her formative years, even long before puberty, you have a girl 13, 14 years old that has enough hatred in her heart for men that she's going to hate them forever.
I can't compete with that.
Nobody wants to compete with that but little boys though There's always exceptions and the exceptions are the ones that speak up and get mad at me But if you're a little boy or just a son Even worse you got all sisters No dad no father no male role models.
You see your mama with a different dude every six months.
You hear your mother talk terrible about men
Your aunties, all your grandmothers, all talking terrible about men.
You're the only boy now.
All women, you're growing up around all women now.
You hear nothing but terrible things about men from all these women.
While none of these women are raising you as the only boy to be a good man, good father, and good husband, they're not doing any of that.
Of course not.
In fact, you're better off raising your little boy to be dependent on the mama forever, because I don't be the only man that never leaves her.
Think about that one for a second.
Raised my boy ain't gonna learn nothing he gonna be dependent on his mama forever because I can guarantee and sometimes it's subconscious He'll never leave me because every other man did These boys can't do nothing and then women complain all these men are worth it Of course there he was raised to be worth it So he would never leave his mom because here's one thing that women hate who they hate a mama's boy because sometimes they get jealous
Why you always up under your mama like
He was raised to be that way to never leave her to be dependent on her
But if a boy grows up just surrounded by women who?
Have terrible things to say about men what's gonna happen is it's not that he's gonna hate other men that boy is going to hate himself And then he's gonna be a people pleaser for women because he hates himself If you hear nothing but horrible things about men your whole life even as a little boy you can't develop a healthy self-esteem as a man You were gonna go above and beyond to people please for women.
That's a bad situation too
Oh, the kids in school.
So they're all products of all of this stuff.
And we're trying to apply surface level fixes to stuff that's really, really, really deep.
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It's a multifaceted problem and you got to be a major critical thinker to try and figure some of this stuff out.
Lack of discipline, obviously.
It's paramount because if the children are not getting disciplined at home, if they don't understand rules and boundaries and in certain places and certain spaces, you have to act a certain way.
Oftentimes what people do is They keep it so real that they don't know how to modify their behavior To fit the places and surroundings that they are in if you're normally a really outspoken really loud person and you don't hold back great But if you go to a quiet restaurant where the candle lights are the only light and the piano music is low Then you don't you know what I mean you got it
Act in a way that is fitting for the environment that you were in and when it comes to young people this is lost too when you're around adults These kids got to know that the adults are not your peers There's so little respect and if you're an adult and somebody's child is talking you disrespectfully like And I don't even blame the child necessarily you shouldn't blame the child because their parents
Allow for that Some people should just get a dog and see how that goes because there's some folks that can't even They can't control a dog if I come to your house and your dog is jumping all on my lap Oh, he likes you.
I don't care.
Don't don't know that that that no because I don't want your kid jumping all over me either Start with the dog see how that goes and if your dog doesn't make it to the age of two because you forgot to feed it even like oh, I'd be probably a bad parent
Compare black students with white students.
The contrast is especially dramatic.
During the 2023-24 school year, black students represented roughly half of all enrollment, but 80% of out-of-school suspensions.
White students represented roughly 9% of NPS enrollment during this period, but accounted for only about 2 to 3% of suspensions, depending on which NPS suspension measure slash report was being used.
Black approximate enrollment was 50% share of suspensions 78 to 80% Hispanic 28% of students 15% of suspensions white 9% of enrollment 2 to 3% of suspensions the Hispanic comparison is important because it demonstrates that this is not simply a minority versus white phenomenon
Hispanic students are also a large disproportionately low-income urban student population in NPS yet their share of suspensions was substantially below their share of enrollment so if we use poverty as an excuse maybe this is a good example because Hispanic students are poor too but their behavior or at least how their discipline is dramatically different than how black students are disciplined so why is poverty this indicator of bad black student behavior but it's not an indicator of bad Hispanic
Student behavior, so you can't blame poverty.
Here's what I would think on initial inspection I would think that the most minority student which is white student would be the most Discipline and the most disruptive and the most unruly because don't we see that if you're a minority and a hyper minority you are judged in a way and you are scrutinized in a way that even ambiguous things that you may do and may say are judged the most harsh way
White students are the absolute unequivocal minority in MPS, yet they have less disciplinary problems than anybody else.
You would think that the white students would want to fight everybody all the time because they're not throughout numbered.
They get bullied a lot because, you know, it's not a lot of white students at a particular school.
I bet you got some MPS schools with only two or three, maybe four white students.
If you're one of those four white students at an MPS school, your parents, you gotta wonder why they have you there.
I don't even know if that's a good experience because there's no way you wouldn't get bullied.
What is this here?
The 2023-24 numbers are stark.
A state commission instructional review of NPS examined 11,658 out-of-school suspensions during the 23-24 school year.
The racial distribution was approximately Black 80% of NPS out-of-school suspensions Hispanic 15% white to Asian 2% two or more races 1% black students represented 49.5% of NPS enrollment yet accounted for 80% of the out-of-school suspensions That means black students were overrepresented in suspensions
by 30.5 percentage points on average.
Another way to talk about it is one out of every two MPS students is black, but four out of every five out of school suspensions wins to black students.
The disparity becomes even larger when we get to kids that were expelled.
92% of the kids expelled from MPS are black.
A same review found that 92% of NPS expulsions in the 23-24 school year were issued to black students.
Enrollment, 49.5% African-American.
Out-of-school suspensions, 78-80% African-American.
Expulsions, almost universally black students.
So the Trump administration has got something to say about this because clearly NPS needs to examine their policies Why are 92% of the expulsion's black students?
Is there something the district is doing wrong?
Are there policies on these no tolerance policies?
Are they way too punitive?
Do they look at race differently?
Let's go ahead and just just say yes So the district started to enact this is under Darian driver ladies and gentlemen, this is 10 years ago
It was noted by the Obama administration that there were major disparities in discipline and NPS I think that some of us knew that and Also, it's even more dangerous because when black children are suspended from school when they're not in school They might be out in the street because the mamas and the daddies are at work a lot of the times And if the child gets I don't even know how they handle that because if there's no parent Or if a parent has to miss work or take off work because their child got suspended
That puts the economic future of that family in jeopardy because now mom and daddy got to miss work and sometimes we as black people have jobs where you can't miss a lot of days So they wanted to change their policies and also they had to because under the Obama administration under my good friend Eric Holder A consent decree was created in which MPS was going to be much more intentional about how they train teachers and they were going to have a different perspective
and maybe do a case by case basis before they issued the discipline because the disparities are as stark as you can possibly get.
This is dated, this article came out today.
Milwaukee Public Schools is under federal investigation again, so remember they were under federal investigation because there were such stark disparities in the discipline of black children.
Obama administration was like, yo, NPS, you got to change some stuff.
They said, OK, we'll agree to the consent decree.
And you have a certain number of years to rectify the disparity.
Fast forward to today.
Milwaukee Public Schools is under federal investigation, again, based on allegations about how the district considers race in disciplinary practices.
The US Department of Education said yesterday.
The Department's Office of Civil Rights announced its investigation into the Milwaukee Public School System and another school district in Fayetteville, Arkansas as it shared new guidelines against school discipline policies that aimed to reduce racial disparities.
NPS said we're gonna change our rules and how we discipline children because the old way of how we were doing it led to 92% of black kids getting expelled and black children who are now less than half of the enrollment at NPS are still 80% of the suspension.
We would want them to and expect them to change their policies because those numbers are horrible.
The Trump administration is saying you can't.
You can't change your policies even though your policies led to these disparities.
Looking at race and changing your policies based on race is a violation of the law.
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Make your mind up.
Skinny is derogatory.
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I want to see no rib cage.
Nothing wrong with that
sometimes.
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So, you know, I like the women tall.
I'm OK.
You know me as Miss Bond.
Oh, I sure do.
Yes.
And I don't know, after seeing what happened Sunday, I guess a lot of people would say no wonder at the State Fair.
But you talked about the Hispanic population and them being poor and whatever.
I taught that that was my first assignment because a lot of people.
might be in this country that shouldn't be.
They made sure they told the line at school.
I barely had, I wrote one comment one time on a report card that caused the father to make his son come to school, get on his knees with an apology letter to me.
All I wrote was he was not living up to his potential.
I had no idea it was that derogatory that that would happen.
They view the Maestra, the teacher, as a very important part of the family.
As a matter of fact, I used to have to send two sets of work home with them because their father, mother, grandparents wanted them to teach them what they'd learned.
and whatever, and I can see where a lot of times, like you said, I had one student, I remember, now this is when I left my Hispanic school, came over to the north side, and I had a eighth grader who was about six-four, he was very tall, and it intimidated a lot of teachers, but it didn't intimidate me.
I just turn around and tell them, do what everybody else is doing.
don't play with me."
And he got back in line and did what he was supposed to do.
I don't know if it's the way people say something that says, oh, some of these kids that gets them to the point where they do something suspendable, or if they do something that might not be suspendable, but they get suspended anyway.
So I don't know.
I've subbed since I retired, and I still have family in the system, and we talk all the time.
But, yeah, it can look like it's kind of weighted.
Like, it's not fair that this group seems to be the biggest group to be suspended.
I will say it's the way too that the parents and you talk with each other or have a relationship.
Like I said, my parents over at the other school, if I open my mouth, it was like the old commercial.
If Hutton, I think it was when they said that everybody was quiet.
And I don't, I don't know.
It's just.
Different cultures, I guess.
All right, Ms.
Bonds, appreciate
your call.
Milwaukee Public Schools is under federal investigation again based on allegations about how the district considers race and disciplinary practices.
The U.S.
Department of Education said yesterday, the Department's Office of Civil Rights announced its investigations into NPS and one other American school district in Fayetteville, Arkansas.
as it shared new guidelines against school discipline policies that aim to reduce racial disparities.
Think about this.
There are racial disparities that have been identified in Milwaukee and also in Fayetteville, Arkansas.
And these districts are taking decisive action to eliminate those racial disparities.
And because of a Donald Trump executive order, they can't take race into account.
when putting together discipline policies.
So whatever policies they have in place that led to the disparities that we have have got to remain because you cannot look at race as a way to modify and change your policies.
Complying with an April executive order signed by Donald Trump, the new guidelines say schools are home.
God, they're playing in our faces.
Schools are violating the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that was the one where Dr. King was standing over Lyndon Johnson's shoulder when Lyndon Johnson signed his 64 rights Bill rights or a civil rights act and then he turned it's a real weird awkward-looking picture because President Johnson like turns over and hands that
pen
to Dr. King Because you know when presidents and governors sign bills people that were instrumental in bringing that bill to fruition Get to keep the pen
You ever see like an executive sign a bill they use like 30 different pens and they give the pens away so there's a photograph of Dr. King receiving the pen that Lyndon Johnson used to sign the 1964 Civil Rights Act the Trump administration is using that bill To say we cannot account for race
Changing policy because that violates civil rights now think about whose civil rights that violates I want you to think about this too This is why politics nowadays needs to be demystified If black children because of whatever the reason is I don't know y'all want to blame poverty blame poverty bad parents blame bad parents no dis blame whatever it is, okay, but if these statistics continue
and as NPS's black enrollment continues to dwindle.
Right now it's less than 50%, it's about 49% of NPS's enrollment is black, yet suspensions and expulsions of black children is actually going up.
If black children are suspended or expelled from school, who does that benefit?
Non-black kids.
If your academic career is interrupted because you have to find a new school,
or because you are spending time out of school because this child is suspending and they're missing lessons and if they're already behind think about this now and if you don't graduate doesn't that increase the likelihood that these other students of different races have a better shot of being say at the top of their class you know some of these colleges and universities they want the top 10 percent
You've got to be in the top 10% of your class or the top 15% of your class.
That's what some of these colleges want.
Well, if the black student, think about this now, the black students are getting expelled and suspended to where it's interrupting and interfering with their academic progress.
That gives more opportunity for those other students, multiracial students, Asian students, white students, Hispanic students to place higher in their class.
Complying with an executive order the new guidelines say schools are violating the Civil Rights Act of 1964 if they quote evaluate the racial outcomes of their discipline policies and make decisions based on or because of those racial outcomes So if MPS says hey, let's change direction and how we discipline kids writ large black kids in particular the Trump administration says you can't change your policy
Even though your current policy is more punitive on black kids.
I need this to register with folks If they identify the disparity which we have Black students are expelled more suspended more and they NPS like oh, let's change gotta change some things the Trump administration says you can't because you're looking at race to influence the change in policy that is insane to me, but here we are The new guidance
is an actual reversal of a previous stance of the Office of Civil Rights which had long considered disparate impacts of disciplinary policies to be grounds to investigate schools for racial discrimination.
NPS itself was the subject of an Office of Civil Rights investigation 10 years ago for the high number of suspensions and expulsions of black students.
and the district seeking to change course and address the disparities is now a violation of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, which was signed into law to mitigate and prevent and reduce discrimination
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Zach, if I was to ask you, what does the president do?
What just off the top of your head?
What do you sign executive orders?
That's right.
So that's about right Bet so yeah, right President is the top law enforcement officer in the country.
Yeah, the commander-in-chief Kamala Harris was a prosecutor She prosecuted criminals.
Okay, that's that's a law enforcement Like profession prosecutors and force the law Donald Trump was a defendant
But now is the top law enforcement officer the president enforces the laws passed by Congress Congress let me give you an example Because people didn't know that they still don't know this we okay, so when you vote for president Or governor or mayor or county executive They're executing the law passed by the legislature.
They are law enforcement officers y'all elected Donald Trump to enforce the laws that he breaks and what is he doing?
He is changing the laws to favor
Those that are lawless, why do you think they want to put together a two billion dollar flush fund for the people that did the January 6th?
He sides with law breakers because we made him the top law enforcement if you take a criminal and say hey criminal make all the laws
Think about what kind of laws they're gonna make.
They're gonna make laws for criminals.
That's why he's corrupt.
That's why he's trading stocks.
That's why he's making billions and billions of dollars.
That's why he accepted a plane from a foreign country.
That plane got so many microphones and bugs in it.
When you were the top law enforcement officer, you are in fact, Richard Nixon said it.
He said, it's not illegal if I do it.
Richard Nixon said, I am above the law.
The unitary executive theory means.
If you're president of the United States and if you look at it critically, you enforce the law.
Congress was like, hey, we have a housing discrimination problem in the country.
And Congress was like, oh, what do you want to do about it?
Let's pass a bill and create HUD, Housing and Urban Development, which attacks and mitigates housing discrimination.
It gets rid of housing covenants, which you guys are familiar with because I read them all the time.
The president then gets to pick somebody to enforce the laws created by Housing and Urban Development, which is designed to eliminate.
Discrimination and housing the president didn't create HUD the president enforces the law passed by Congress because Congress realized that there was a problem they had to fix and it was housing discrimination So all the president does is enforce the law President don't make the law the president can sign a law can veto a law But they have to enforce it and we allow the president to pick cabinet secretaries to help him do what enforce the law Take a break come back
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So there's an interesting investigation.
So this is what's got NPS in trouble with the Trump administration.
Somebody somewhere said probably some liberal.
that NPS is using a lens of whiteness in how it looks at black student behavior.
And maybe just maybe that lens of whiteness is contributing to some of these suspension, expulsion, and disciplinary policies that have led to disparities that are palpable, if not tangible.
In a press release August 18th,
Federal officials said they were launching an investigation.
Another, they're attacking NPS.
Launching, well, we're attacking too, though.
In a press release dated August 18th, federal officials said they were launching an investigation into NPS because Milwaukee education leaders had, quote, derided facially neutral school policies as reflecting systemic whiteness.
The press release says the leaders were seemingly encouraging school officials to consider race in disciplinary practices.
Ladies and gentlemen, we want the district to consider race in disciplinary practices because if they are judging the behavior of black children more harshly, don't we want to mitigate that or at least identify that?
at the very, very least if that's racial discrimination 101.
If a black child throws their books on the ground because they're frustrated, and a white child throws their books on the ground because they're frustrated, the black child might get kicked out of class because they're being disruptive, but the white child was just having a bad day.
That would be an example of looking through this lens of whiteness that white children are given the benefit of the doubt They're allowed to be angry.
They're allowed to show a range of emotion You see even if the range of emotion the white child shows is disruptive We allow them that benefit, but if a black child shows emotion, they're dangerous They're violent and they must be removed and that's a real Like real-world example where white children can do all sorts of things
You ever seen how some white kids talk to their parents I'd go to my white friends house is growing up and sat in awe
Hi Sherwin, hi, we're um We got some family coming over we're gonna have dinner so you can come back later or come back Tomorrow, but we're gonna do some family time We
always love it when you come over is what a white parent was saying to me and the kid was sure was not freaking going anywhere woman Sure when you're staying here, dude
We're hanging out we're playing Atari 2600 until I say so and then I look at the mama like well who overrules here who overrules who My mother wouldn't even tell She wouldn't even be polite when it was time for my friends to go home, but y'all get out of here now y'all going on you know And she'd just stand by the door until everybody got up and left
Ask what they were referring to, a spokesperson for the Department of Education told the Milwaukee Journal sent them.
They don't comment on open investigations.
NPS officials said they received a notice from the Department of Education on August 18th yesterday stating it would be investigating whether NPS was using, quote, race as a factor when considering disciplinary action against students.
NPS officials said they had no further information about what prompted that investigation.
So they're trying to change the discipline policies so it's more fair to black kids.
And the Trump said, no, continue to be unfair to black kids.
NPS caught national attention in 2024 for a memo that appeared to share ways to reduce racially disproportionality in disciplinary practices, including examining practices that came from a quote, lens of whiteness.
The memo had reportedly been shared with a campus bias tip line of young America's foundation, a conservative youth organization led by former governor.
Oh, Scott Walker.
It's not clear from the Department of Education's press release whether the Office of Civil Rights Regulation investigation stems from a complaint filed by Scott Walker.
While many OCR investigations are direct responses to complaints, the office can also launch its own compliance review.
Scott Walker's got his fingerprints all over this.
Can launch its own compliance reviews which can be based on information in media and other sources When the office of civil rights regulation Open and investigation into the Green Bay School District in May of 2025 it was following a complaint filed by the conservative Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty law firm a spokesperson for the law firm said will Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty
didn't file a complaint in the NPS case, but the firm issued a statement celebrating the NPS investigation.
The OCR means Office of Civil Rights.
I said Office of Civil Rights Regulation, Office of Civil Rights.
The Office of Civil Rights investigation could include reviewing records, conducting interviews, and making site visits to NPS schools.
If officials find NPS violated civil rights law,
They will seek to negotiate a resolution agreement under which MPS would commit two steps to address the violations.
Keep in mind the violations are MPS wanting to change its policies so they are less racially discriminatory against black students.
The Trump administration says you can't change your policies to be less racially discriminatory.
You have to leave them as they are.
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