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Back in Pocket

The Truth with Sherwin Hughes · Tue Aug 18, 2026

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August 18th, 2026.

Yesterday, I was out of pocket, professionally, not proverbially.

And with me being gone yesterday, there was a conversation that I believe I missed.

I'm assuming that at least some of my colleagues were able to touch on the previous weekend's events.

I did not get my opportunity to do so, and I would like to.

share with you my sentiments about what transpired at the Wisconsin State Fair.

And I'm also going to say I should probably give this disclaimer that, okay, it's an isolated incident, right?

Every single day of the State Fair wasn't racked with violence at Spin City, but these things happen consistently.

And so I asked a question in the Hughes Views Facebook group.

And if you're not a member, by all means,

It's where we post information and post the story links that I may reference on this program in Facebook on Facebook rather so that you all don't inbox me and ask me sure when where's the link to that story I post most of that stuff in That Facebook group and it's also a place where you all can sound off on the issues of the day and also post your relevant stories I do stress the word relevant because sometimes y'all just see a funny meme on the internet and put it in the huge views Facebook group

Those posts will not be approved, however I digress.

And whenever I ask the questions, a very simple question, why are these kids fighting so much?

The answers that I receive shows something that is very, very clear.

And that is why I want to have this conversation today, because it's not about the single incident that took place at State Fair.

I also don't want to just wrap this whole conversation up in whatever crime numbers are, because the statistics tell a much different story.

And as I was going through, you know, the different comments that people were leaving as to why these kids fought at State Fair, one of my favorite responses, because we talk about this stuff often, and I believe that we are a community, not that we all have the exact same education levels or income or even the same expectations for our families, for ourselves, and for our future.

I believe that we are a community.

I'm not just talking about black people.

I'm talking about people that can be impacted by the actions of one another.

I'm talking about the greater community, where for the most part, I think we all want some of the same things.

I think there's a commonality that exists amongst all of us.

All of us want to be reasonably happy, want to have a little money in our pockets.

I think that we want to feel safe, want to make sure that our children have the opportunities to succeed.

I think there are things that bind us together.

And so when I talk about community, that is what I'm speaking in terms of this broader conversation of people that just have a bunch of similar interests, you see.

And so when I ask the question why are these kids fighting so much it's everything from well, they're not properly disciplined at home I Don't know if I agree with that I think that there is an expectation or an understanding that these kids are being treated pun intended with kid gloves and parents just Dismiss their kids bad behavior.

I believe it's actually quite the opposite Where there are some of you that do believe in corporal punishment when a child acts up

Then you give them spanking or you get out of belts or a wooden spoon or whatever your method of violence is.

I think that these kids are getting punched in their faces.

I think that they're literally being beat up by their parents.

I've seen it because a young mother or a young father whose frontal lobe ain't even developed themselves that has very little patience.

and might be under the influence of a number of different substances, and we have to have a conversation about that.

Y'all see the pitfalls of legalizing marijuana is not going to benefit our community because we can't deal with our problems when we're sober.

I think these parents are beating these kids up.

That's what I think.

And I also think that that violence, that we couch that violence in a different kind of language, we frame it differently by saying, well, no, no, no, that's discipline.

The kids sees it as they're getting beat up by their parents.

They also see that if you use physical force, if you use physical violence to try and modify or correct somebody's behavior, I think that's where a lot of the fighting comes from.

But one of the other responses that is fairly common.

So these kids don't have anything to do.

They don't have any any outlet.

What can we build them?

If they are illustrating how they will.

Conduct themselves when they're in somebody else's space somebody else's town and here's the thing about the state fair I can't even tell you the last time I went to the Wisconsin State Fair Let me tell you why because the food there is disgusting.

I don't want to eat fried cotton roaches on a stick I don't want nothing on a stick.

Maybe a corn dog, but you get a corn dog get the metro market I don't need to go to the state fair and pay for parking in somebody's front yard to get a damn corn dog on a stick It's an exhibition of Wisconsin agriculture.

It's cows and it's pigs and it's

Chickens and it smells like poop all over the place and you got some stupid rides That's it's just not for me But but if if we're to give our young people this outlet apparently that they so desperately pray because we allow them to go to the state fair Which I believe is and should be an outlet for the youth because there's there's games.

There's carnivals there carnival rides.

There's carnies Is that offensive to call a carny a carny?

You know what a carny is there are toothless people that love the crystal meth and they travel

all around the country and they set up carnival rides and they're very scary.

If a carny ever invites you to the back of the ferris wheel by all means, please don't go.

We may never see you again.

I'm digressing.

This is what happens when I'm out of pocket for one day.

But if if young people.

Are acting in this particular manner.

When they should be on their best behavior because they're in somebody else's place, they're in somebody else's space.

They are at an event, and I would argue the Wisconsin State Fair should be for everybody.

But what is this damn fascination we have with rural Wisconsin?

I don't understand that.

At some point during today's program, if I can get to it, I want to have a deeper conversation about data centers.

Why do we care what rural people think?

Do you understand that we need to be a hub for technology?

Because Wisconsin don't really offer much else.

Other than traveling and tourism in Milwaukee, Wisconsin is an industry-less state.

I mean, we make some paper in the Fox Valley, we manufacture, we produce ginseng, but other than that, and here's the thing, since when...

Do we have more of a deep affection for the wants and needs of people in rural Wisconsin?

At the same time, we're using the technology that requires these data centers to be built because whenever destroying our neighborhoods to build the freeway that could connect those rural communities to the economic engine of Milwaukee, those rural folks didn't care about us.

So why this deep affection for them?

Build the data center.

Now, hold on.

We got to do so with some limits and some parameters.

There's good data centers.

There's bad data centers.

You make them pay for their energy.

If they're going to be stressing out the grid, then maybe they got to pay for those infrastructure improvements.

But Wisconsin cannot be known as a place that is hostile to 21st century technology or those businesses and companies will go somewhere else.

I am perplexed why we care so much about rural Wisconsin.

Rural Wisconsin and some of those cities and towns got a 1000% increase in their shared revenue.

Swimming in money.

You know how much money Milwaukee got?

10% increase in shared revenue, barely enough to cover the pensions.

We got to pay cops and firefighters and their spouses.

So I don't know where this affection came from, but I live in the city.

I'm worried about city stuff.

I don't care what's going on in Ashkamunga.

Sorry, but Ashkamunga don't care what's going on here.

We're going to talk about that later because I'm real hot on this data center thing.

Y'all over here feeling sorry for these people.

You ever see what rural Wisconsinites say about Milwaukee residents, yet for some reason we are taking their issues in these little small Podong towns that have literally nothing and we're elevating it to the level to where David Crowley is now being called data center Dave.

Call him that.

In fact, give me a data center nickname.

I feel jealous and left out.

Super data Sherwin.

Don't please don't get me started on that.

We got to talk about this youth violence issue Here's the part that I don't get and this is probably my old age and maybe my ability to critical think and maybe because my frontal lobe has been developed for I don't know better than a quarter century Why would you want to ruin somebody else's time?

Somebody else is going to have a good time at the fair They want to go and eat a bunch of things on a stick a cheesecake on a stick a pizza on a stick some bugs on a stick

They want to eat a bunch of things at the fair and they want to walk around and they want to smell the pig poop, which is disgusting, by the way.

I saw a documentary on fried chicken.

It's on Netflix.

The name is escaping me.

And it's an African-American man, but he's a peculiar one because he's from England.

I'm always thrown back a little bit when I see an African-American man with an English accent.

I just, I don't like it.

Don't want you to talk like that sir.

Why do you talk like a king?

You're not you're just English but he eats fried chicken three meals a day for 30 days, so he does a bunch of health tests in The beginning of this documentary where he experiments I guess he's documenting I guess it is an experiment with his health because he talks about the proliferation of what they call chicken shops

Western Europe particularly in England and all throughout London.

They got more chick-fried chicken places in London that we have per capita here.

It's insane.

It's about we grew up eating and everybody eats fried chicken and we love fried chicken.

He also delves into the stereotypes of African-Americans and fried chicken.

But I've talked about this before on previous programs.

Every single culture eats fried chicken.

The Koreans eat fried chicken.

The Chinese fried chicken.

Even the Italians, they fry their chicken.

Chicken Parmesan is breaded and fried chicken with marinara sauce and mozzarella on it.

Everybody eats the fried chicken, but for some reason black people and fried chicken.

So he's fried chicken.

Three meals a day for 30 days and he has health suffers dramatically in just 30 days, but he's also eating it three times a day.

And then he goes to the these farms where our chickens.

Produced and it's literally disgusting and I love I love food you guys know that once you get me started talking about food The show is ruined because I'm probably gonna talk about food for the duration of the program I love food so very much.

So I saw this documentary Two weeks ago I have not eaten chicken since and don't even crave it because what I saw and how these chickens are produced is absolutely disgusting

The way they have to grow them and the hormones they inject in them where the chickens are dying from heart attacks because their breasts grow so big because when you go and Buy chicken you want a big chicken breast.

That's value for your money But the things they have to do to these birds they literally collapse under their own weight and they're laying in their own filth They're so big and so heavy because of these hormone injections that these chickens get because we as consumers demand a big old chicken breast

These chickens are literally dying.

And so every so often the people who own these chicken farms have to go in and pluck out the dead chickens, where the alive chickens are just mixing and mingling with the carcasses of other chickens.

It's so disgusting.

It's so bad.

But I also have been able to separate what chicken looks like on a plate versus a feathered bird.

To me, they're almost two totally different things with this documentary.

My God.

Filthy and disgusting now.

Don't worry.

I'll be back to eating chicken again.

It's just I got to get that documentary behind me About the youth now Some say that they don't have an outlet but if we built them one and I don't even know what it would look like You know, I still have my NPS recreation guy, which is like I don't know 70 or 80 pages of a whole bunch of activities

why parents aren't signing their kids up for that.

And here's what's crazy.

When I talked about it a couple months ago, I was like, hey, summer's coming, everybody.

These kids are going to be acting wild.

Here's the recreation book.

I went through a whole bunch of pages and a whole bunch of different offerings.

Some of the stuff is actually really cool.

Learning to cook, you can play an instrument.

There's all sorts of dance.

Lots of constructive activities.

There's a whole bunch of different pools throughout NPS where the kids can go and swim.

There's just a lot of stuff to do.

And the number one thing that I heard from you all, which was terribly disappointing because I knew that this summer was going to be bad because it's one of the easiest predictions you can possibly make every single summer and we feel powerless to do anything about it.

That's why I asked the question in the Hughes Views Facebook group.

Nobody has an answer.

People even saying, oh, well, because Milwaukee is a violent city and the kids are going to be violent.

Wait, what?

That's and then there's always the proverbial.

Well, we were fighting to know the hell we were not because we.

When we were youth, we didn't want to lose what we had.

Not to mention we wouldn't go somewhere else to another city, another town, another suburb and act a fool out there because we were highly in tune to how white people think about us in the first place.

And I know some of y'all don't care about that, but they still control too much of our future, too much of our fate because as black people, we own nothing.

Nothing.

I can't even get y'all to buy houses, but you'll pay $2,000 a month in rent and your furnace doesn't work.

It's so frustrating.

Because this also harms our political representation.

Like, you think that David Crowley is not going to wear the sins of our youth when he is campaigning statewide?

You think he's not?

They're going to say, OK, we don't know this David Crowley guy.

And believe it or not, there are people that literally have never heard him before.

Because why would you know the county executive from Milwaukee County?

Or they just got familiar with him with the squeaker of a win that he got during the primary.

And they said, OK, we don't know this David Crowley guy.

OK, what does he do?

Oh, he's the Milwaukee County executive.

Let me see what's going on in Milwaukee County.

And depends on what your search parameters are.

The news and the information that comes up when you search what's going on in Milwaukee County, I promise you it ain't good.

And I can understand somebody from far away that does not know him, does not know us, doesn't know the dynamics of this county.

Might say I'm not voting for him because his county is a myth, especially the youth.

Take a break, come back, talk to Linda on the other side.

We're going to have to get to the bottom of this because all I'm seeing is us making up excuses.

And here's the worst part about it all.

So I ask this question in the Hughes Views Facebook group.

There's always the white person that says well sure when the murder rate is down and at least they're not shooting each other How low of a standard can you have?

For black youth behavior, it's almost like I'm glad they're fighting and destroying public spaces because at least they're not shooting so wait It's an either or how about they do neither?

How about you go to the fair and get fat and eat stuff on a stick and get cotton candy cotton candy is gross by the way for some reason Bailey Coleman likes cotton candy

The weird stuff that I remember when I listen to other people's shows, let me take a break, come back.

We're gonna get to the bottom of this.

Why the violence?

Why the fighting?

What are you fighting over?

It used to be just one girl was mad at another girl, because it's something, something boyfriend.

Okay, well then they fight.

Why don't you do it in the parking lot?

Or do it somewhere else?

Meet at McGovern Park.

Sounds like a nice place to fight, and they fight, and after a while, people break it up.

First of all, people having legitimate beef.

Don't break the fight up so early.

Let them get it out.

As long as they're not picking up like rocks and bricks, let them let them fight it out.

Don't break it up so fast.

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I

don't

want to tolerate excuses for why young people are acting in this way.

And if you want to be a bleeding heart and if you want to feel sorry for him, fair enough.

But don't call me with that stuff because I think that people have such a low standard for black children and it's killing us because if we have a low standard for their behavior, we'll also have a low standard for their academic success.

Nobody puts high standards on black kids because we think that they're dumb or they're stupid or because they're poor.

That's insane to me.

It's insane.

It's like we've just given up on them.

Oh, well, they're going to fight because what are you saying?

They're a lower order of being.

You know, there's a whole bunch of people in this country that think they were monkeys.

And when we act that way, all we're doing is confirming it.

It's disgusting because that's not who we are, but sometimes that is the only Interaction or the only perspective the people that don't actually know black people get and they see us acting like this It makes no sense They show all this like this footage and it's blasted all over the internet.

It's all on the local websites And I'm not gonna sit here and say oh well the media is making us look bad Why do we keep giving the media stuff to put out there if we're concerned about looking bad wouldn't

Isn't there some responsibility that needs to be put on us?

But that's the other thing.

Nobody takes responsibility for anything.

It's like if I'm fat, and maybe there's a medical issue or a thyroid issue, there's sometimes biological factors, sometimes it's genetic if you're fat.

Sometimes you're fat because you just eat a lot of food and don't exercise and you love McDonald's so very much.

But then what do we do?

Let's sue McDonald's because I'm fat.

When the key is in the Hyundai's we're getting stolen instead of us dealing with the issue of Car theft from a law enforcement perspective or whatever other means we have to deal with grand larceny We sue the car companies, you know Did you all know that Milwaukee sue the car companies because their cars are too easy to steal so we sued them What?

What?

Somebody breaks into my house.

Do I sue the law?

company.

Let's talk to Linda.

You're on one on one seven

truth.

Good morning.

It's a good day in Milwaukee.

I should say a great day.

However, I'm going to make this quick because I got to be here.

But show and I've been thinking about this all weekend and it's very, you know, heartbreaking, upsetting, but

Milwaukee, Wisconsin needs to get tough on teens and social vandalism.

And I just think that we need to create a law that, you know, that a law or an ordinance that holds parents accountable where they have to pay a ticket or an ordinance.

And if they don't pay it, they spend 10 days in jail.

We need to get tough on teens and crime and negligent parents for real.

And I think that if we create a law or ordinance or a policy where they have to pay for their negligence and social vandalism caused by their teens, their children, while they go into Atlanta to Rick Ross party, you know, they just needs to be recognized because the worst of us.

It's not the definition of the best of us, for real.

That's my take as a disciplinarian, as an educator, and as a person that took advantage of these systems in Milwaukee that work, like the recreation department.

I raised my sons in that until they got of age to get into the basketball thing.

When my granddaughter, I put her in the recreation.

I am going to start swimming classes at recreation because these are the things that work.

Our communities that are doing great things, taking back pride in their communities that work.

And I'm calling the chief and the mayor and the governor and I'm going to suggest strongly suggest.

that we get tough on teams by citing them and their parents for being negligent.

Thank you.

Have a great

day.

I'm so glad she said that you hear that sentiment.

You hear that passion coming from her that she wants to get tough on this stuff and even hold the parents accountable.

I think that's.

I understand her her emotion because it's a very emotional issue because it's very frustrating because I think there's a lot of us to see what our potential is but our potential is being.

Stifled by this bad behavior Right, but her passion.

She's the girl.

No, she's gonna talk to the mayor and the police chief and the governor I don't know if they're gonna do a whole hell of a lot, but you hear that sentiment Does that sound like defund the police to you?

So those of you to try to call black people woke and say we want to defund the police No, what I heard was more law enforcement what I heard from Linda

in 2026 is very similar to what we heard from black people, black communities, and black families all over the country before the 1994 crime bill was signed into law.

When we get fed up, we want more law enforcement.

So we got to stop pretending like, oh, we don't like the police.

We love the damn police, especially when we call them.

We want them to show up right away.

Now, the problem with policing is you don't know what kind of officer you're going to get.

You don't know what kind of training they're going to get.

You don't know what kind of move they're going to be in.

You don't know what kind of customer service you're going to receive.

Because there are instances in this document where if you are a legitimate victim and you call the police the cop will run you for warrants and you call the police and You want to report a crime?

You might be the only eyewitness to a damn murder But now you're locked up because they ran your background So there are people that legitimately don't call the police the other thing is when it comes to immigration This is something needs to be discussed more

If you're not an American citizen and you're in this country right now where you can be deported, literally taken away from your family anywhere you go, you go to the metro market to get some Ben gay.

You can go to metro market because you want to get some California peaches and they are in season.

You may never come back home again because ice may swoop you up.

So there are people who are insecure about their citizenship and sometimes they're the only witnesses to crime and they never reported because they're afraid if they reported that they're going to get deported.

So the sentiment that Linda has, I think that's one that is widely shared by a lot of African-Americans.

We're not anti-crime.

We're not anti-police, rather.

In fact, in some cases, when we get fed up, we want more police.

We want more law enforcement.

We want more laws.

Now, here's what would happen if we use Linda's example, because this has been tried before.

In fact, I think there's a parent couple that did not secure the firearms in their home and their teenage son.

Got a hold of that firearm and shot some kids at their high school and those parents are doing like five and 15 years Respectively or some something like that.

So that was an example of we're gonna hold these parents accountable Let's say we did something like that here kids go out to the state fair or whatever and they fight We cite the child here's what you can't do legally if someone didn't commit a crime

And I don't know how any defense attorney can probably get a parent's responsibility thrown out because the parent wasn't there.

They can have plausible deniability.

I don't know where my child was at.

I don't know they were going to fight.

I didn't commit the crime.

You can't hold me responsible.

But if a 15-year-old gets a $205 disorderly conduct ticket, chances are the parent is going to be financially responsible for it.

But if we held parents accountable, like your kid commits a crime, we're going to hold you also responsible.

So what is that going to do to the black community?

The mama, the daddy and the kid are all going to be incarcerated.

So there will be consequences to that.

But that's not getting to the root of the problem, because I don't know if y'all know this.

Having a whole bunch of laws to try and rectify people's behavior or curb some of their most outrageous tendencies.

It doesn't work.

It just locks up more people.

They don't change.

There's you can have the death penalty in a state you think that determines murder go look it up I'll let you do it y'all are smart people the states that have the death penalty still have the highs damn murder rates So more laws is not Is not the answer and locking up parents is not the answer which you're gonna have is a whole let's say we did that kid commits a crime misdemeanor car theft whatever up We're gonna hold the parents responsible to gonna give the parents two years gonna give the child three 30 years later

Everybody's gonna say oh my god these laws are racist against black children against black parents because look how many black people and parents were locked up We're just repeating history or like right in front of our own eyes.

I'm take a break come back talk to a couple folks on the other side I want to get to the bottom of this this damn If you're gonna fight just find it home I can invite somebody to come to your house or go somewhere go fight behind the school Under the bleachers or something

Why are you doing it in other places?

Why are you ruining somebody else's time?

But I also think it goes to show the sentiment and the mentality of these young people.

They don't care.

They don't care.

It's on site for them.

They see somebody they don't like.

They don't care who's around.

Y'all, they don't even care if the police are around.

I don't know about you all, but when I was younger, you know, in the 20th century, when the world was very different, I didn't want to get arrested by the police.

Sometimes we wouldn't even do anything wrong.

We see the cops and just start running Yeah, we don't want to chance it.

Let's just get out of here.

Oh, what is that a squad car?

Let's go the other way These kids will literally fight each other and pull guns on in front of the police Like that should be terrifying to all of us if you're dealing with a cohort of young people that aren't even afraid of the police if they're not scared of the police and the police can kill you The police can kill you and get vacation time.

The police can kill you and get duty disability

A cop can kill a person.

Say, oh, that was stressful.

I murdered somebody.

I'm sorry.

I shot somebody in the line of duty.

I'm so stressed out.

You know what duty disability is?

You give them $60,000 a year for the rest of their life health insurance and a full pension, and they don't have to be a cop anymore because killing somebody stressed them out.

I've seen it happen.

Have more conversation on the other side.

Millison and Linda, you guys stay put.

I'll come right back to you.

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Let's talk to Millison.

Hey, Millison, how are you?

I

am well.

How are

you

this morning?

Doing all right.

What do you think about all the

youth

violence

fights?

I agree with you about the parents being punished like that, but there is a way to get them.

And before I say what I'm going to say,

I don't want anyone to say what about the other kids because that's not our problem.

If your child is given a ticket for disorderly conduct and he's found guilty or if he gets into some kind of trouble and you're in public housing, you get food stamps, you get any public assistance, it should be cut off.

Because if I'm giving you taxpayer money to help you and you still can't control your children, you don't need that money.

That will eliminate this.

Once they find out you can't feed the other kids because your stamps, they taking it from your stamps, they'll fix it.

They'll fix it before taking them to jail.

They'll fix it then.

You find out you can't live in city housing or in section eight housing because your son is out here clowning or your daughter is out here clowning.

You'll fix that problem because you need some place to go and you have other kids.

What

about let me just play devil's advocate because not all of these parents that have unruly kids are receiving stamps in public housing might be a little bit of a stereotype.

What do you do with.

Parents could be a two-parent home.

They both work full-time and maybe they're just absent parents because they're working so much and they have a more How do you punish them because you can't take their mortgage if their kids are acting up?

You know that tax refund you get No, you don't get it You know all the things that the city gives you You do not get because even the people who don't need assistance

You still need something, whether it's your kid going to school.

You need something, but we have to take out trying to embrace these people.

They're not embraceable.

You're not going to fix them.

Just like you said, there's no changing them.

So any monies we're putting into them is a waste.

All right, let's leave it there.

Otherwise it's going to get weird.

Okay, thank you for your call that she just goes off on these her the longer she goes She's fantastic by the way, but the longer she goes the more punitive she gets eventually had I kept Millison on the phone for I don't know 90 more seconds Well, if you kids acting up we're not gonna plow your snow on your street and we ain't gonna pick up your garbage You gonna have to fend for yourself now if you

Take her original sentiment.

Okay, if you're receiving some kind of public benefit and your kids are acting up and you're receiving stamps and getting Public housing and we cut that off now.

You got to deal with a homeless problem And so I think that that would be compounding the issue So I don't think that you can you can do that some of it certainly is cultural where there's Because I try and Make sense out of this and I'm trying desperately.

That's why I'm reaching out to you all because maybe you all know something or see something that I can't

And I will admit, I sometimes have blinders on because I keep and maintain a high standard for black people, because I know that when you set a high standard for us, we exceed it.

But also, if you set a low standard for us, we'll go lower than that, you see.

And so I think that I have a real specific set of viewpoints on this.

I listen to...

Don't watch the social media content.

There's a whole bunch of Instagram and some of it is this social media You go out and you act a fool in public and you get the footage We just have this obsession with just seeing violence all up and down our timelines whatever And it's like when there's fights and there's violence going on the kids get excited like oh we outside It's lit out here.

I might

There's nothing lit about you all got to go home at 9 o'clock y'all went out there and you clothes That's the white people's fear.

They know black sponsors of the state fair I don't even know how many black vendors they have but that's neither here nor there.

That's them people's thing

Wisconsin State Fair is 170 175 years old where people go and they show their cows and their pigs and the sheep and they got auctions for the cows.

It's an agricultural exhibition.

That's their thing and I don't take that away from them.

Hell, I don't even have it in the city.

It's in West Dallas.

So we got to travel outside of where we live to go to their thing.

Let white folks have their damn thing.

We want to stay fair.

So let's have a black state fair.

Wait a minute.

Don't know if we won't necessarily have an auction because you never know what might get auctioned if we had an all black state fair.

I might buy one of y'all.

I'm put you to

good use Why you going out there you made them white folks go home an hour early on the last day of the fair But I knew something was up.

Let me tell you how I knew something was up because on on my Facebook timeline Anybody can he stay fair ticket like I saw this like

Flood of people asking and you know what kind of people asking for free who got stay fair tickets left over because I knew There's something was gonna happen on that last day because the other 1110 days Of the fair honestly people posting incessantly.

Oh, who's got tickets to the fair?

But it's always on that last day and that's when everything came to a head But if you think about it rationally imagine What's a black like Black Arts Fest MKE?

Or Juneteenth day and then I think we have like an African Celebration at one of the Milwaukee County parks could you imagine think for a second now?

Because I need us to be able to see both sides of the issue Let's say we have a black cultural exhibition and a bunch of white kids from Greendale Greenfield Oak Creek and Franklin descended on a beautiful black

event, a cultural exhibition of black culture where it's nothing but love and it's black.

Vendors and it's black art and it's black music and imagine a bunch of white kids came and fought and shut down our black cultural exhibition because you imagine if they had to close June 10th They died already ends early that they had to close it even earlier because a bunch of white kids from somewhere else Came into our neighborhood and ruined our cultural exhibition Do you know how mad we would be now?

I want you to empathize with them because every time a white person speaks out about our behavior

it ain't about race because quite honestly we would be even more angry.

A bunch of white kids came into our community and shut down an African World Festival or Black Arts Fest MK.

You think about how mad we would be that we want to play it all year to have our art on display.

We might have planned all year for this black arts and entertainment and cultural festival.

We might have planned all year to have some of those music acts performed.

And a bunch of white kids from the suburbs are coming out there and fighting and making us have to close early.

We'd be ready to burn a damn city down.

Think about that for a second.

Let's talk to Lisa.

Hey Lisa gonna one-on-one seven the truth.

How are you?

I'm good Sharon.

How are you

doing all right?

What's on your mind?

You know, that's a good idea We do need a black state fair, but I haven't been to state fair since I was seven or something Do I tend to go back?

No, never ever want to go back.

I have nothing to do with animals I don't want to smell and I don't want to see him.

Why do we have a black

state fair?

We don't got no we don't own farms.

Well, you know what?

You know, some people go, some black people go because they said they go for the ride.

I said, you don't lost your mind.

You're going to pay 25 hours of parking, 25 hours to get in.

You could go to Great America and ride all you want to all day long for a lesser price.

But anyway, um, I don't think we should, um, totally, we shouldn't pay a parent life parents for their children's bad behavior.

Let me tell you why.

because first of all, I had two parents, one strict one and one, you know, my mother was, you know, she was kind, just we harded and everything, but our parents discipline is, but my oldest brother, he was a problem.

He was always trouble.

Okay.

I feel, you know, and we were raised right.

Oh, God, we were raised right, but my brother was a comedian at school, you know, but we were raised right.

I feel these kids now fighting.

You could forget that.

And there was all type of gangs around, you know, they knew the gang members, but they weren't stupid enough to join the gang because then they had to meet the real gang leader and that was my father.

But anyway, you have these kids that go out here and they want to do stupid things like fighting.

What we should do is, and I think we should do this, we should get them into jail, you know, put them in jail, not amongst adults.

But put them in jail and then when you put them in jail, that's torture them.

Whoa, Lisa give you.

No, hold on.

This is how you torture them.

I'm going to give you two books.

You're going to learn reading and you're going to learn math.

I'm going to give you two books.

You're going to learn a book a week.

When you read that book, wait, you got to give me like a 10 page essay on that book math.

I'm going to give you algebra, geometry, trigger number three.

And I might throw in another math, whatever to torture you.

then test you on that.

Okay?

Then we're going to get together.

If the person you fought with is in a jail with you, we're going to, you know, put you guys together so you could talk it out.

You could, like I said, you could fight it out.

You could fight all day to get tired.

But at the end of the day, you're going to resolve your issue.

And you're going to be in a sale, a sale, your sale, 23 hours a day.

I might let you out to see some fun, but you will be there 23 hours a day.

Okay, we got to take

a break and I got another call on hold.

But we get your point torch room by

giving them

academic rigors and putting them in the cell with the person that they thought that's insane to me.

But also listen to what she's saying.

That's doubling down on incarceration, even though that idea is a little wild.

You're also going to find out these kids can't read.

They can't do geometry.

You can't.

Well, here, do this geometry, and then that's going to be your lesson.

I also come to find out that if you are the dumb kid in class, you get more attention.

You get more special need.

You get more special care.

You get the special classroom and stuff.

There's no one.

Here's the thing.

If you pretend not to know how to do your homework, the attention that you get, I think that's part of the addiction.

If you're doing everything you're supposed to do in the classroom you just continue on you just do the next chapter But if you don't get it if you don't understand if you can't pass they do all this stuff for you get catered to you get coddled to so there's almost an incentive To not want to be involved in your classwork I can't prove this but I do know that the amount of effort Resource and attention that we give to the kids that are not doing well for whatever reason I think that they see that you you get more out of not

doing your homework you get more you get oh what's wrong we gotta treat this one special let's put them in the special class and do all the special things and you have a shorter school day now we're gonna put you in alternative school and also there's utility in that because if I can illustrate there are a whole bunch of children that are under grade level in reading and math I get to ask you the public for more money and you cough it up every single time okay fall into that tree

So you got the kids, whether they're dumb or not, they'll play dumb to get special attention.

And then, of course, you'll have the district that'll say, we got a bunch of dumb kids.

We need more money.

And here goes the public coughing up more money and then have the nerve to complain about affordability.

You know how much money we could save if our kids could read?

We'd be running around here naked.

Well, maybe some of y'all would keep your socks on because some of y'all are weird like that.

You don't get fully naked.

You just leave your socks on.

But that's OK.

I'll take it.

If our kids could read.

And who do we blame for that?

The whites?

Racism?

Stay fair.

The truth with Sherwin

Hughes will be right back.

I'm looking at

the YouTube comments, and it's just prisons, prisons, build more prisons, build more prisons.

Y'all know that we cannot incarcerate our way out of this problem.

I thought we learned that.

Because all we gonna do sometime later, when all the data is needed out, these increased penalties, sending everybody to jail, sending the parents to jail.

Locking the kids up is gonna end up looking like a racial disparity even though it's this is the best part about this conversation It's black people that want the racial disparity and incarceration because black people want to get rid of some other black people It's also the same phenomenon where because I never really understood this until I looked at it in terms of of our community's perspective While you have some Latinos and Hispanics that are pro-trump and anti-immigrant

Don't make no sense right y'all all speak the same language y'all all eat pasteles y'all all eat empanadas y'all all eat What's the things in the corn husk tamales?

I love me a tamale by the way But yes some Latinos especially the Cubans they were like pro-trump like they wanted other Latinos out of this country because the fewer Latinos that are in this country illegally

the more economic opportunity there is for the Latinos that actually got their citizenship.

So I think there's some part of African American culture that wants to get rid of certain black people and we'll have these behavioral standards or whatever the standard is.

But whatever we can do to get rid of some of them because that gives more opportunity for the rest of us or maybe we think we can live in peace with less black people.

But then I would argue now you got to deal with more white people.

Let's talk to someone who I don't know.

You probably should live without him too.

Hi Bob.

How are you today?

I know you've got great answers for us.

Hello Sherwin.

You know, when I was a school bus driver in Milwaukee, I had to stop the bus once a week because the kids fighting.

And they said, ask me, don't put your hands on the kids because we got cameras on the bus.

We have to let you go.

I said, well, you don't have to let me go because I'm not going to sit down and write kids up.

And they beat each other up.

I'm going to say, one little girl said, I'm going to kill my daddy.

I said, you can kill your daddy, but sit down and stop hitting this boy.

And then they said, I was going to quit.

And then they gave me a mentally ill bus, a little bus.

Perfect bus

for you to

drive.

Cuz I didn't have no accident and I was in there the day and yeah, so Bob you were driving a short bus Not in the beginning I was driving a big bus and they walk

and then they put you on a short bus you so you was you was in the short bus

For the first year I was with the big bus and then I was on quick and then they put me in a

small but How long was you driving the short bus?

one year.

And I stopped, I quit the company because, and I went to Germantown.

Oh boy.

And do you know what was interesting?

So I don't know if it's the kids or the parents.

I didn't have to stop the bus one time.

Three years I drove the bus and then I had a stroke.

That Germantown the last year, I didn't have no faith.

Why do you think that?

Tell me why I mean They was all white kids I that's all I saw and they were mostly black kids in their walk

So you think it's

just a

rate hold on but I want to make sure we're clear here So you think it's just a race thing white kids are just better behaved at least on your school bus than black kids are so black kids are Inherently flawed when it comes to their behavior.

That's what you're saying.

I Think it's that era the era

It's different.

I went to the grocery store and I spent $99 and $98, 90 to 98.

And then I spent $140 this week.

I said, wow.

Hold on, Bobby.

Because this stuff, you're starting to

get into.

I'm going to take

this.

Hold on.

I need this to make sense to people other than just yourself.

You're talking about an era, right?

So the era refers to a period of time.

If the black kids is acting up and the white kids are not, the era is the same.

We're all in the same year.

The culture is the same.

The music is the same.

It's different, man.

And when I was in Illinois, black music cut off at 12 o'clock when I was young.

And that was it.

And then black music go all the way every 24 hours.

How

does that explain the white kids and their behavior being better?

And the black kids behavior being more poor because music used to cut off

at

12 o'clock back in the 60s

These white kids, they just don't fight them white kids didn't because they I mean they treated me like I ain't nothing What

grades were the kids?

What were the

ages?

They were both in high school and when they gave me the small bus I bought some toothpaste and I turned around and then kids was eating my

And standing up on the bus, so I had to stop the bus anyway, so I said, you know, and I should have stayed because I was Yeah, I could help the kids and no, you know, I

don't think so.

I don't even know if you can help yourself.

They were eating your tooth.

So wait, this is the short bus kids that I believe I believe they were eating the toothpaste on the short bus.

Yeah, and then standing up and walking.

I talked to them.

I just quit and I went to German town.

And then I didn't have to stop the bus and I drove for one year and had to scope.

Okay.

And

in

German time he was on a long bus, big bus, not a little bus.

Yeah, yeah.

And in the high school kid and they didn't fight.

And they looked at me like I was nothing.

You ain't nothing better than a little summer and I just smiled.

Some of them.

Spoke some of them because I wouldn't nothing

you're not Bob didn't the black kids also treat you like he were nothing because if you told him to shut up and to sit down and to stop fighting they wouldn't respect you correct

So the

black kids were nicer, but fought more the white kids fought less.

Oh, we

I'm not getting anywhere.

Here's the thing We don't have a solution is what I'm trying to illusory.

We have no idea what to do

take away the food stamps, lock up the parents, build more gyps, we don't know what to do and it's embarrassing because this is literally our future that we don't know what to do with.

A problem that we cannot solve.

The truth

with Sherwin Hughes will be back for hour two.

You are listening to the truth with Sherwin Hughes on 1017 the truth the truth app and 1017 the truth comm

Welcome to our three of the truth

With Sherwin Hughes, talking about data centers, I say build them.

Yeah, if it costs a little bit more, but look at the technology that we're getting.

And if the cost is diffused amongst millions of people, fair enough, like how much is our energy bill going to actually go up considering the utility that we get out of the technology?

It's not going to double it, but also I'm not in favor of, because this is a democracy.

Know some of y'all hate that word and Donald Trump has made democracy falling out of favor and I can tell the tail ain't gonna wag the dog here I'm gonna need y'all to understand that phrase that analogy that euphemism the smallest group is not gonna control The larger part of the whole it's not maga shouldn't control the Republican Party

DSA shouldn't control the damn Democrats.

And what somebody who lives in a rural community of 97 people, their sentiments should not impact the technological advancement of the other 5.9 million people in Wisconsin.

These are my sentiments.

You do not have to agree.

And because you don't agree doesn't mean you got to get angry and have any animosity.

I just have a different set of ideals than you will be fine.

But that's what we have fallen into.

The smallest, tiniest voices need to be elevated to such a way that they can diminish the impact to the larger part of our cities, our democracy, our state, our country, and our world.

No, thank you.

That is an issue.

These small extreme groups, whether it be political or people that are anti-technology or anti-development, of course people in small towns are gonna be anti-technology.

They're not very smart.

They're not.

Because if they were smart, they'd have left a long time ago.

I can say that because I don't have a lot of rural listeners in my program.

Well, if I did, I got less now.

I don't feel sorry for you.

Know what your political sentiments are.

I know how you feel about this city I know that you vote for legislators in outstate, Wisconsin for no other reason than to make sure Milwaukee gets punished Milwaukee doesn't thrive So do you think I feel sorry for you if they want to build a data center right across your face?

Not my problem.

I love data.

I use chat GPT a ton Sometimes I just see something I take a picture of it.

Hey chat GPT.

What is this?

Hi Sherwin.

This is a blah blah blah blah blah.

Thank you

Pay for it too.

I used to do it a free chat GPT and now I'm paying I'm in it worth every penny so good.

Oh Xavier stop it Dude, you got Starlink.

Everybody's fine.

Everybody's fine.

I drive a Tesla You use I want Starlink too.

I was looking at some of the Starlink plans.

I was like hmm 100 megabytes for $50 Well, well, well Elon now Elon

Says some things that aren't very nice.

He does say some racially insensitive things, but you know what I heard today I heard black people talking about what needs to happen to other black people to go just as far as what Elon Musk has said about Africans So you got to weigh the good with the bad.

You know what I mean?

Like black people we sometimes don't like blacks either

Sure when the solution is lock everybody up lock up the entire family take away their food stem take away their housing I literally heard somebody call today and say oh of your children act up make the parents homeless That's if a white person said that it would be racist right, but if a black person says it it's being tough on crime And I'm not judging either way Just come on guys Racine's own consolidated plan

Estimated Microsoft's investment could produce approximately 4,300 jobs, 2,300 construction, and 2,000 permanent positions, and noted Microsoft's partner with Gateway Technical College to train workers now and into the future.

A person living in Milwaukee, Waukesha, or Washington County can potentially work in construction on the data center.

provide engineering, electrical, plumbing, or HVAC services, work for a contractor supplying the project, obtain technology-related employment, operate a business supplying the facility, benefit from workforce training programs, sell goods and services to those construction workers and those people that work in the facility, benefit from the increased regional economic activity, it seems that we would benefit greatly.

way more than the people in that community, so I say build it.

Wisconsin is competing for the AI economy.

The data center itself is not the entire economic prize.

The larger question is, does Southeastern Wisconsin want to become one of the places where the next generation of computing infrastructure is built or not?

Wisconsin's Economic Development Agency explicitly says its data center initiative program is designed to attract the capital investment, the money, the resources, highly educated workforces, and high wage jobs associated with these new facilities.

Those are all wins to me.

Yeah, my we energies bill might go up a little bit.

You know how I can offset it, turn the temperature down a little bit in the wintertime, put on a blanket and a hoodie.

Oh, no, the data center is gonna make when we energy is coming.

They don't gotta be 72 degrees in your house in the wintertime.

72 is, you live if it says 70, you can save money.

Turn the thermostat down a little bit.

You don't need to have AC cranked up to whatever it's cranked up to.

Sweat a little bit.

Get you a little spray bottle if you get hot when you're sleeping in the middle of the night.

Turn air conditioning down a little bit if you're worried about the we energy's bills the way some of y'all The temperature you have in some of your homes.

You're paying a lot of money for that My house is insulated poorly I Got quoted on windows is like 13

grand.

I was

like nah I'm cool cuz I got weird custom window sizes and they got to make them all custom.

Oh But it'll save money in the long run

How much of a long run are we talking?

Oh, these windows will pay for themselves in 30 years.

It's either when I turn the air conditioning on.

It's either frostbite in my house and oh, it's too cold.

Let me turn the AC off.

Then it's Jamaican hot.

It's so it gets so hot.

Did I actually start speaking in Patois?

Well, I know turn it down heat doing give me some ox tails and some cabbage and some peas and riots Well, I want Jamaica and then I turn the AC on and then What does a cold person sound like can I say Eskimo Eskimo I can say I thought that they didn't like to be called that they build the igloos

Who said you can't calm that I don't know it's a political correctness of you can't call people Eskimos anymore.

You can't call little people midgets

political correctness is dead.

I think so

yes

I've noticed that but there's some words that I still can't bring myself to say You know like what?

I'm not gonna say cuz people get very angry over this word, but when I say it though

I'm just gonna let you guess.

I don't mean the word to degrade certain people of lower mental acuity.

You know what I mean?

Like, I don't mean it that way.

Tell them what the R word.

I'm saying that all the time.

I mean, who says it all the time?

I do.

No.

Not on the air.

Yeah, no.

They don't, you know what I'm supposed to say.

But sometimes it's the only word that fits and I don't mean it to like degrade people You know what I mean like that's no no no no not them, but there's some people That act they're smart It's worse if you're smart and act on if you know better and just don't do better.

That's just Hoof.

Ah, yeah, yeah, I don't like that people don't use their common sense common sense isn't common

And Microsoft has already completed its first Mount Pleasant facility, which calls, which it calls the Fairwater AI data center.

Microsoft says the facility is intended to power the next generation of artificial intelligence and innovation and create long term economic opportunities locally.

Like why are we mad at that?

If Wisconsin becomes a major AI infrastructure hub.

There can be second-order benefits.

AI data center, construction, utilities, engineering, technology, workforce, suppliers, startups, research, and additional investment will follow.

Could Milwaukee County residents be adversely affected by a data center being built in Racine?

Yes.

But the mechanism is important.

A Milwaukee resident is not going to experience a Racine County data center simply because there's a large building in Racine.

The potential regional impacts are primarily electricity infrastructure.

This is probably the single most important regional issue.

Large AI facilities consume enormous amounts of electricity around the clock.

Wisconsin's regulators recognize this explicitly.

The Public Service Commission said,

Data centers are large enough that their demand can affect generation and transmission infrastructure.

And it's April 2026 decision specifically addresses the risk that costs associated with serving data centers could be shifted to existing customers.

But if we're using the technology, shouldn't some of the cost be shifted to us?

But then also you can require with regulation and very.

Careful policy for these data center companies like Microsoft to foot the bill for the increased infrastructure that we need.

We need to upgrade our infrastructure.

Anyway, Joe Biden told you that with the infrastructure bill, our electric electricity grid is old as antiquated.

It can be hacked.

We got to upgrade and why not upgrade it for the sake of this new technology.

So you're not going to get me to be against the data.

So now I'm going to give you now there's some cons obviously.

But in the grand scheme of things, bringing billions of dollars to Wisconsin and having Wisconsin be known for something, being known as a tech hub where we can get engineers and high income people and highly educated people to come here and to move to Wisconsin and to buy houses and to pay more property taxes and to spend their big fat AI data center.

Paychecks and then pay more income taxes and pay more sale taxes.

Ladies and gentlemen, that's the net positive.

I'm sorry if you live in a rural community We got to do something with your land.

You ain't farming on it Got all this land just sitting there.

All you're doing is walking around barefoot in the tulips No, we need that land for technology because I like chat GPT and I need a place to store all my photos I'd rather store my photos right there in your backyard in a data center.

I need to store the photos got had a cloud

No, Sherwin, but the data centers are gonna hurt the rural people the rural people have been trying to hurt us with their vote for the last three generations Well that no you have to feel sorry for small-town rural folk.

No the hell I don't I mean, I think the only reason why I feel sorry for them because I come to find out they don't have enough dentists There's not more dentists need to be in rural areas because their teeth are jacked You gotta have teeth.

I like my teeth.

I brush my teeth at least two times a day

People that say they brush their teeth three times and that's weird.

That's an obsession.

Who brings a toothbrush to lunch?

You have a compulsion.

You don't want to brush them too much.

You got two times a day is good.

Brush them in the morning time.

Got to get that plaque.

Got to get that tartar.

Okay, then you go through your day, eat your little lunch, go through your day, eat your little dinner, have your little snacks.

You guys like little Debbie's.

Some of y'all like cream pies.

You like cream pies Xavier you like cream pies Yeah, I love cream pies You ever you ever make one they're not probably not very difficult to make when you think about it Just oatmeal cookie with some cream in the middle.

Yeah, I've made a lot of cream pies Okay, so whatever you have your little cream pies and then this is nighttime It's nighttime and you got to go to sleep.

You got to have a routine.

I Like to take my showers at night.

I like to wash off the day's dirt

Take my shower I Brush my teeth and I start my wine down Watch me a little television.

Maybe watch me some educational so I have smart dreams And I go to sleep and I brush my teeth two times I Haven't had a cavity since I was 31 and when I got that cavity of 31 I was very angry.

It was a small cavity It was one of those cavities like oh you got a small cavity it can wait until your next dentist appointment You better get this Joker now like oh, no, it's tiny

Don't tell me that.

I don't like that.

Oh, we don't have to worry about it yet.

Well, I'm gonna worry for the next six months dentist.

Feel this Joker.

And it's not even that bad.

It is drilled it out.

Once you get over the sound of the drill.

It's not that bad.

You

smell a little smoke.

That's all right.

It's just your tooth.

I enjoy the dances.

I do too.

I fall asleep in a dentistry.

It's easy to do I used to be afraid.

I don't even know where my fear the dentist even came from But not cuz I get a text message.

Oh sure when it's time for your you know your check I'll

damn near fall asleep in the barber chair.

I Don't worry about that.

Oh

You don't have them shape up your beard.

I do.

No,

let nobody know

professionally shave your head

It

doesn't you don't need a professional for that

Oh, it's a whole treatment.

You know, they get all the dead skin off.

You know,

I got a luffa.

I don't need nobody rubbing on my head like that.

But I also don't.

I don't want a professional massage either.

You don't like massages?

I don't want no stranger rubbing on me.

I don't know you.

That's gross to me.

I'm serious.

Yeah, I don't like

it.

So you never got a massage?

Never, ever.

I've had somebody offer to pay.

Like if they were too adamant about it, that's why it sounded even more weird.

Oh my God, Sherwin, you've never had a massage.

Here, I'll pay for it.

I'll pay for it.

Get naked and a person walks in and they're going to they're going to oil you down and rub on you.

I couldn't.

Like get out of my head enough to actually enjoy a stranger rubbing on me and it's with women too.

They'd love to get massages Yeah, but if a strange man in any other context even brushes up against them they quick to call them some kind of a sexual assaulter, but we'll let a straight Weirdo stranger oils them up.

Uh-uh.

Well, I've never gotten a massage by a male, but you know next time in your Vegas I have a few spots for

you

You ain't gotta go to Vegas for a tug.

There's tugs all over the place.

Oh, I didn't know that.

Let's see if somebody's calling right now.

Look who's calling.

I know he knows about tugs.

I'm gonna take a commercial break, come back and grab a telephone call.

I am not opposed to data centers and because a small town might see some adverse impact, sometimes to move the needle forward and to provide technology and to provide...

High-end jobs and provide all of the other benefits that can come sometimes You know you got to take the good with the bad But I'm not gonna be over here concerned about what's happening in small towns the small towns ain't got no kind of concern for us I say build it because I need somewhere to store my food photos because when I go out to eat I got to take a picture of my damn food and that photo got to be stored somewhere You got to put it in the cloud and if the cloud happens to be in your backyard Mr. And Mrs. Johansson, what do you want me to do?

Maybe you should have moved.

Oh,

you're one of those people that take photos of their food

It's delicious and the presentation is nice absolutely because I like to recommend restaurants and one and but I'm not one of those weird food reviewers because all that stuff is That stuff is fake because there's some food reviewers.

I'm not gonna name any names They love everything that they eat oh ten out of ten ten out of ten first of all Nothing is a ten out of ten.

There's not that many restaurants

that are 10 out of 10 because I've been to some of those restaurants that these fake food reviewers give a 10 out of 10.

You know what they do?

They extort restaurant owners.

How do I know?

Because my friend that owns a very popular restaurant gets extorted by food reviewers all of the time.

Here's what they say.

We're going to come to your restaurant.

We're going to order an unlimited amount of food.

You're the restaurant owner.

You're going to pay for it.

You give us $900 on top of all the free food and all the free drinks.

And we'll give you a positive review or we'll come to your restaurant We'll order a limited amount of food probably won't tip your servers and we'll give you a bad review And it will impact your business the choice is yours.

He has to set money aside to be Extorted from these damn food reviewers.

So when you see these it's a whole like a hustle It's a whole hustle you extort and some of these restaurants.

I know the um

Oh, come on now, 60th and North Avenue, the Asian joint.

It's the Asian, come on now, the Asian buffet, the Vietnam restaurant.

They told a food reviewer to screw off.

But they know what they got, though, over at the Asian joint.

What is the name of that joint?

Y'all know what I'm talking about.

It's right there on the northeast corner of 60th and North Avenue, right there, a little Asian restaurant.

Got a little buffet.

And then during COVID, they transferred into

like a little Asian grocery store, they knew how to pivot.

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All

right, somebody stand.

Y'all gonna run out of water.

This is also probably coming from somebody who's an anti-vaxxer.

We're gonna, how you gonna run out of water?

You can't.

You know that the amount of water that has always been on earth is the same amount of water that's always been on earth.

You know water doesn't disappear.

You know that?

When somebody told me that, it kind of blew my mind a little bit.

The water in the oceans evaporates, turns into clouds.

Clouds get saturated.

Water comes right back down to form a rain.

Same thing, but if it's in the wintertime and the colder climate, the same precipitation comes down to snow.

Guess what?

You drink water as a human being comes out in the form of urine.

Same water coming right back out.

Water doesn't, same amount of water, water ain't going nowhere.

Water don't disappear.

You know what else blows my mind if you guys are into things that are really screw your brain up.

I would say look it up, but the explanation is going to defy human comprehension.

Watch a YouTube video on what is called 52 factorial.

You're going to be blown away.

It's written 52 with an exclamation point called 52 factorial.

It's very simple.

It tries to conceptualize or give you an idea of how many different.

Configurations a playing card deck can be in when you shuffle it right you have Four suits right you got your jacks your Queens your Kings What am I missing Jack King Queen I guess ace ace of the face card and Then you've got all the numeric values of the clubs and the diamonds and the hearts and spades and you shuffle it up

So basically whenever you shuffle a deck of cards, that particular comedy, if you lay all the cards out and you look at the order in which they happen to be in just randomly and you shuffle it again, that is the only time in the course of human history that those cards have ever been in that order.

If you shuffle them again, it has never been duplicated.

So 52 factorial, since we're talking about stuff that blows your mind a little bit.

It's crazy.

I just was like, talk about a rabbit hole.

I don't go down rabbit holes.

Very often because I fear I may never come back.

But the 52 factorial rabbit hole is insane.

So it basically says so to try and conceptualize the numbers like 10 to the 64th power times.

It's insane.

It doesn't make any sense if you look at how they try to write it down with a number of zeros.

If you.

How does it work?

Every one billion years.

OK.

You take.

a single step Okay, so a billion years passes you take one step By the time you have made it all the way around the earth's equator that's 25,000 miles now remember you're taking a single step every billion years you still aren't even a tenth of the way of All the different combinations a card that can be shoveled in so then they say after you've taken one step every billion years by the time you get

All the way around the earth here's what you do you take a spoon and you take one spoonful of water out of all of the oceans Okay, it's every billion years now.

So every step is a billion years once you get around the earth once now you start to empty the oceans By the time all of the oceans are empty You're still not even halfway there and then you got to put the water back in the ocean and then use the next one is you take every

Billion years you take another step put a stack of paper on the ground Every one billion years put another stack of loose leaf paper on the ground by the time that paper stack reaches the moon You're barely halfway there of the different combinations of shuffled deck and being and I just went down this rabbit hole It was just insane.

I was like a billion years between steps other way a minute What about a billion years around the earth?

No, no one step

So a billion years you're moving every three feet by the time you get 25,000 miles you ain't even scratch the surface that is Also explains my mom look at blackjack.

Yes, and that's six decks It's all chance ladies and gentlemen Let's see what we got in the YouTube chat anything worth reading Aaron says the foot massage is fire too

Brothers it's okay to get treated so I've gotten a pedicure before Because I don't know what happened, but all of a sudden it's not cool to wear flip-flops anymore.

I Don't It's not cool and not that I really care about the fashion Understandings of a younger generation because I mean screw them, but apparently you can't wear ankle socks anymore.

Those aren't cool and then you're not supposed to wear

Flip flops, but they call them thong sandals.

I think that sounds very derogatory But I used to wear flip flops all the time because when it's really hot.

I don't want socks It's hot.

I Don't like it.

I used to wear flip flops here and holy smokes when Carrie was here.

Oh, she used to make fun of me so bad I don't have bad-looking feet for a man.

Some of y'all got hammer toes and bunions some of y'all toes oof her jacked up, but I would get

I've gotten pedicures, but I've gotten to it was actually kind of nice Would I do it regularly?

No, because I don't necessarily consider that a part of my self-care routine But I would get a pedicure Just the start of sandal season because my feet are gonna be out because when it's really really hot like first thing I do when I get home to take off my shoes and socks I don't like stuff on my feet like that So I've gotten a pedicure before I wouldn't a manicure.

That's that's gay Geez it is.

I'm not gonna sit there.

Hi Ling Ling.

Can you please?

Can you do my nails for me?

No.

I cut my fingernails.

I keep them short because long fingernails on men vile.

Disgusting.

Disgusting.

Oh, women will tell you, if you got long nails as a man, you have dirt under your fingernails.

You're not getting laid, sir.

Not even a little bit.

It's horrible.

So bad.

I cut my fingernails, keep my fingernails.

I mean, they're even, but I'm not getting them all done by Ling Ling.

Sit there and Ling Ling share and have her talk mess about me in Vietnamese.

No, thank you.

Not doing it.

But the pedicure I've got, but there's a whole bunch of people in the YouTube chat, so I'm, oh, Sherwin, you need to get a massage.

So you're wearing flats with a thong

in them?

I don't wear it.

I just wear them around the house now.

OK, good.

I wore them on vacation when I was in Memphis, because I don't care about my family things, literally about anything that I do.

They can have all the opinions they want, but, you know, I don't care.

But I don't wear.

I used to wear them just like to work and just out and about, because, you know, in radio, nobody can see your feet.

So I wouldn't care.

I guess you can't wear flip-flops anymore, but slides are stupid slides are slippers So we traded flip-flops for slides and then you guys wear socks with slots wearing socks with sandals is a sin That's why we listen to a generation of wear socks with sandals It's ridiculous.

Oh, we got to talk to Derek.

I forgot all about there Sorry, Derek.

I forgot all about you.

Hi.

How are you?

I'm doing okay for Sharon.

I want to tell you some of you took my data centers

and they had a person who was from, they had a show here and they were talking about data centers.

I'll speed it up so it makes sense.

Anyway, this guy was from Texas and he was just talking about, you know something, what you need to do, you need to, every state needs to do what they've done in Texas, meaning that he says Texas has the largest number of data centers and you need to deregulate everything.

And besides the deregulation, he said, no, deregulation is wonderful.

It works in Texas.

And he was comparing it like when you're choosing your phone service, like if it's too hot and as far as electrical things, if it's too high, what do you do?

You switch services, right?

And you go to some other services.

So he said,

no, we can't do that in Wisconsin.

We have a monopoly in our.

I understand that.

That's what he was saying, that he said every state needs to do like they do in Texas, deregulate everything.

And then he said, somebody asked him about the electrical cost and everything.

And that's when he was talking about, well, if you had to deregulate it, electrical grid or something like that, I mean, you could do like they do where if it's too high, I mean, if you don't like the cost at T-Mobile or Verizon, what do you do?

You switch to a different service.

He's just talking about total freedom and he says that's the problem with a lot of states They just need to deregulate deregulate and deregulate as far as the water I

would ask you to look up what happens when you deregulate your Electricity the power out is yeah, that's what somebody it's a huge That's not worth it.

Yeah, let's let's land a

plane

I understand that this is a person from Texas.

And he was just saying, and that's what he was talking about, uh, data centers.

He said, if it's too, if it's too high, you just switched to another service.

That's what they do in Texas.

But we can't do that.

And most places are not going to do that.

I understand that.

I understand that.

What are we talking

about?

I understand.

Okay.

We're talking about data centers.

I see the runway, Derek.

Wheels down, landing gears out.

Let's, let's land it.

Okay.

When he when he was just saying if more states would do like he was just saying that towards water.

As far as using water, he said you can have a closed loop system.

Where it is recycle the water through the.

These data centers because they didn't do they according to him, they do get very hot.

But you just keep on recycling the water through that and that way you wouldn't be using a lot of water.

I mean, I don't know.

The most of our closed loop because.

They don't have access to unlimited amount of water.

You're correct.

All right, there.

Thank you.

And I was just, I was just bringing it up because that's, uh, that's what the guy from Texas was saying.

And he says, and I hate, like you said, he says they hillbillies, I guess, or they just need to move on to the 21st century.

All

right.

And get rid of, they don't believe any kind of regulations in Texas

at all.

That's right.

And that's actually not a good thing.

It's a net negative when you don't have regulation because then when the power goes out, it's hard to hold somebody responsible.

We appreciate your call, Derek.

Okay, okay.

Thanks a lot, Sherwin.

I was just passing along.

Okay, all right.

Okay, Derek.

All right then, now.

Okay.

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As if a bunch of white kids came to Truth Family Fest and started fighting and we had to close it down early at one o'clock instead of two.

We'd be very mad at them.

Would we be saying these white kids need a place to go they need their own thing to do no we want to kill them So when our kids go out to stay fair and going into somebody else's community, I shouldn't say that black people live in West house West house has come a long way used to be just gross old po-dunk working-class whites Kind of whites that even after they've taken a shower they still have dirt on their faces

That's what West Stiles used to be.

We called it Dirty Stiles in Brookfield.

Hmm.

Oh, um, you said not too long ago, Xavier.

Because we're talking about Walmart.

You said, oh, there's Walmart in Brookfield.

No, there's not.

Well, yeah, there is.

Where?

Right off the freeway.

When you, uh, yeah, right

off the freeway.

Yeah, look it up.

Oh, no, no.

So

or

is that technically New Berlin?

New Berlin.

Okay.

150 second.

I

still count that as Brookfield.

It's a whole nother city.

Yeah, but you know growing up

ray scene is Milwaukee.

Well, no, it's right next to each other.

But that that little gray area that's Brookfield technically to the people out there in Brookfield.

They

know that's Brookfield.

There is a difference between the Brookfield white or even the Brookfield black.

Oh, they're snooty.

They're high city.

I went to the Olive Garden in my nominee falls.

on Sunday.

I noticed something.

Oh, I got to have a story I put together last week.

I never got to it because we're probably talking about the election a lot.

And it's black people, we are underrepresented in the service industry in Milwaukee in particular.

If we are working in the service industry, it is rarely a host, a hostess or a server.

We tend to be in the kitchen or busing.

So we're not.

Not not as often.

In Milwaukee in particular, we are not directly facing the diner.

We're not serving them.

We're not seeing them as often.

I'm not going to say that there aren't African Americans that are.

that are not in the service initially, it's just at a much lower number,

right?

So we go to the Olive Garden.

My self, my mother and my brother.

And we're sitting in a section and we get a black server.

There's a lot of black people at that Olive Garden in Monomony Falls.

We love us some Olive Garden.

It was all sorts of blacks, a diversity of blacks.

Studs.

Older blacks look like they just came from church just all sorts lots of black in fact I think the african-americans may have outnumbered the white folks at least when we went there's many blacks there right so we're sitting in a section of course we get a black server which makes a lot of sense So we're in a very small kind of like I don't want to say it's a cordoned off area But we're just off of the bar.

There's maybe like four tables over there and our server comes up really nice guy african-american guy probably in his late 20s really

Nice great service very attentive decent a tenant, but not too attentive Here's why I don't like don't don't bring the food and before I had a chance to even take a bite How's everything tasting so far?

How would the first few bites?

Do you see that my fork is still clean?

I haven't and you lie anyway.

Oh, everything is good.

Oh, it's delicious even though you haven't taken a bite yet so a Caucasian family There's already another

Black family in this section and of course the black server is waiting on them, but they end up leaving then a white family comes in and they look Barry Washington County, if you know what I mean, if you know, you know, they just look like they're From a less cosmopolitan area and their dress just you gotta dress at least you don't gotta get dressed up to go to Olive Garden, but come on, dude

A sleeveless flannel and a bent up dirty trucker hat.

Come on, buddy.

It's too bad.

It's Sunday, too.

Come on.

Do a little better, but whatever.

You know that they had a white server?

We're in a small section.

You would think, and maybe they don't do sections that way, or I don't know how they trade tables.

But I found it interesting, but it also matches something that I have been told.

I got a lot of friends in the restaurant business, and it's a horrible business.

It really is.

Profit margins are horrible.

You got to deal with unruly customers and disrespectful customers Everybody wants something for free people will finish their food Say that they don't like it one another meal to go It's it's really really bad and then if you have an issue with your supplier of your food or whatever It is that you're serving you got to find another supplier like you might have a real popular fish fry But you were fish supplier all of a sudden they're out of business.

Oh, it's it's not fun.

It is not fun

But I get a lot of information from The details of the restaurant business from behind the scenes that tells me I would never want to own a restaurant ever White servers will argue Over

who

has to take the black table?

So a lot of restaurants will hire black servers to deal with and to wait on the black patrons I cannot say for sure and I certainly wasn't gonna ask our server if this was the case But we're in a very small section.

There's four tables in this section

And we have an African-American server, but then a white family comes in and literally out of nowhere a young Caucasian woman is waiting on on that white table I'm literally looking at segregation like the white family is right across kind of diagonal from us and they have a white server and Then we have an African-American server and the same little tiny four seat Section I wonder if that's true because I do know for an absolute fact

Then when white servers see African-American diners and they judge us they really do They and maybe that's not fair because I know some black people try to overcompensate like oh when I go to a restaurant I tip Extra because I know a lot of black people don't tip some of it is we've had limited exposure to the service industry And we may not understand tipping culture.

I remember going to lunch with a friend many many years ago

And we went to a restaurant where several of my friends worked as servers because I always feel comfortable going to restaurants when I know people because then I know the service is gonna be good if I got a complaint They won't roll their eyes at me.

It'll be taken very seriously It's just a comfort thing for me.

And so my friend was like, oh, no, sure one lunch is on me.

I'm like bet.

Thank you and the bill was like I'm not even lying y'all

Like $30 and let's say 90 cents Do live $31 and had the nerve to send the server someone I went to high school with and had the nerve to say you keep the rent you keep the change I had to then as we're walking out.

I went in my pocket and I gave her a $20 bill.

I'm so sorry for that He's oh, no, no, you you keep that 10 cents and this is a guy that I don't

When I say he's like he's the CEO of a nonprofit in the city Milwaukee if I say his name y'all will know who the hell this dude is and I I was like I looked at him sideways He's like oh service was good sure when I'm glad you recommended this restaurant or a bunch of your friends were I was like you left him 10 10 a dime.

That's crazy.

That's

I overtip Just because the stigmatism, you know the whole stereotype I just like to give him Something not to talk about

I'm not gonna overtip

Just for the sake of trying to overcompensate if I overtip is because I like this restaurant I like the people and I come to that restaurant often and when I walk in even if they have no tables I get a table because if they know I tip like I need to get something for my tip I Need to get but I don't go to places where the service is even going to be questionable I would prefer to go places where I know the person or I'm familiar with somebody there So if I had it's more to prevent if I have a bad service

Experience that I can complain and have it actually register and mean something because sometimes you complain they get mad at you I Want or because you got to mess my stuff up pretty damn bad for me to complain because I hate doing it I'm just one of those kind of people

That's why I need one of those kind of women like if my food comes out

just a

little bit off I didn't really order this or the food is really good.

I have one of them.

Uh-uh boo.

Uh-uh excuse me No, no, no, no come here.

No you get manager everybody come on cuz I don't like to be the ones you know what I mean to Raise all that ruckus let a woman do that.

They do it better than I do anyway

But I want it to be treated like oh, we're so sorry mr. Hughes We're gonna take this off of the bill next time you come in it's on us and our dessert is on the house there you go I'm coming back I'm coming back I guarantee it and I'm probably gonna spend you're gonna make your money back off of me if you treat my bad experience Seriously, and you sort me out.

Okay, we're gonna take it off the bill.

You know what?

We got we got the meal.

I'm coming back and I'm gonna spend more money the next time I'm gonna take a break back last break of the show

I was a little bit out of pocket yesterday, but professionally, not proverbially.

Back in pocket today, I really want to talk about that stuff that was going on at State Fair and what are we going to do about it?

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Some people don't see

just because it makes the dining experience that much more expensive which I get I like in tipping in a weird kind of analogy it's like an association fee when you live in a condo it just makes condo living that much more expensive and depends on the particular condo whatever you're paying in an association fee may not be worth it so yeah they do basic maintenance and they plow them

parking lot and common insurance or something like that but it's some of these condo fees I think are engineered to be extra high to keep to price certain people out of condos because you can't fake it in a condo G and some of these condos in Milwaukee we have a lot of inventory some of those condos on the river they're like 60% vacant and the biggest

Owners of a lot of those condos that we have in Milwaukee because we way oversaturated this market back in the 1990s when they were putting together the urban plan for the next 30 years like Oh Milwaukee's gonna flourish downtown is gonna explode which it did Absolutely, and a whole bunch of people are gonna want to live downtown.

Let's over build condos Most of them are vacant and then the people that are buying them are from Chicago because it's so much cheaper in Milwaukee to buy a condo on the river

with a view in the third war with a boat slip than it is to own the same real estate in Chicago.

It's so much cheaper.

These people get the condo in Milwaukee, pay the association fees, get the boat slip and get a boat and it's still cheaper than owning similar real estate on the Chicago River downtown Chicago.

I think Chicago was way overrated.

It really is.

We ain't got to go to Chicago.

We got Chicago right here at home in Milwaukee.

You ain't got to go to Chicago.

We're a much better Chicago.

Chicago is just too big for its own good.

And Chicago, you will get murdered.

You'll get murdered.

You'll get murdered in Chicago.

They'll resuscitate you, bring you back to life, and they'll murder you again.

You get murdered two times.

What'd you do this week?

And when Chicago got killed twice?

Oh, for real?

You going back?

Yeah, I'm going back for the pizza.

Deep dish pizza.

Stupid.

Gives me

heartburns every time.

It's awful.

And it takes an hour.

OK.

What are you gonna have on the deep dish meat lovers combo?

Okay, you're gonna have a meat lovers cheese extra cheese.

All right.

See you tomorrow.

I do like portellos

though.

I'm trying to think about it.

Nope.

But portellos, I think it's portellos.

Portellos.

Yes.

I think it's out.

It's out there.

It's in Brookfield.

Yeah, I ain't going out there.

I'm going to Brookfield with nothing.

Everything I need is in Milwaukee.

If I got a step out of Milwaukee ever so briefly for certain I don't know goods or services I dip my toe in a while with toast up and I come right back to Milwaukee because why would toast is so close?

There's parts of why we're toasted basically are Milwaukee anyway, just like Glendale Some parts of Glendale are more run down the Milwaukee is but I don't I don't travel out That I don't need to there's nothing out there The only time I may travel to the suburbs my

Bank there's no ATMs anywhere.

I got to go far away to go and I don't like paying ATM fee Don't charge me money to get my money.

That's my money I'm charging you unless I need to get cash like quickly, which is rare I put everything on my credit card and just pay my credit card off Because then I get cash back.

It's just such a and also if If you get scammed if you've ever had like user debit card and there's a one of those card readers all your screwed bro

Like that's awful and it's real hard to get your checking account money back.

In fact, you probably won't get it back, but if you use a credit card and you get scammed, you can cancel the transaction.

You have a lot of recourse because when you use a credit card, that's not your money.

That's somebody else's money.

As long as you pay the credit card back or pay it off before your end statement date.

Well, there's two, there's a bill due date and there's a statement date.

The statement date, you want to pay your credit card before that because that's what they report to the credit bureau.

How you can improve your credit score they can a dramatic improvement of your credit score stop using your debit card because that's the link directly to your checking I get you want them little credit cards if you can and now you can have a Relatively low credit score.

Maybe you want those secured credit cards, but I'd like to think that I'm talking to people that have a decent idea of their credit and can get at least a Low limit credit card.

That's how I have operated because then if

There's weird charges on my credit cards.

They're easier to dispute than if it's a debit card where that's your cash.

You don't want to do that now.

Your checking account is for transactions.

I rarely use my debit card.

I'm afraid to use it because I don't trust using these damn machines.

Scanning my card.

CurlyQ says the only thing

that kills me in Chicago was traffic.

I take the train when I go, but also I don't need to go to Chicago for what?

If I find out I have to go to Chicago, it's usually oh.

Sure.

Well, what are you doing this week?

I got to go to Chicago.

Fat pizza.

And nobody want no fat pizza.

I want skinny pizza.

I want crispy crust pizza cut into squares.

I don't even like triangle pizza.

Triangle pizza makes the pizza taste funny.

Just like.

If you eat soup out of a bowl with a spoon and taste one way, put soup in a pint glass and drink it like a drink and it tastes different.

It's gross.

I love clam chowder, but if you give me a glass of clam chowder, I'll fight your family.

I'll be like the kids at State Fair.

Thank you for listening.

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The last hour we discussed the problem with isolated incidents, which I'm not sure how isolated they are because they're predictable of youth behavior.

And it's mostly, it's mostly black young people.

And their response to it is, I think they almost relish in the disruptions that they cause.

And maybe this is something much deeper and much psychological.

I know that a common response is we got to

blame

the parents.

Oh, the parents need to do better.

Oh, I love that one.

It's so simple.

It will just do better then.

What if I applied that in other avenues?

You may not be very well versed.

Money and finances and investing and I can just say well just invest your money Just do better with your money.

People don't know how Telling the parents to do better like what is the standard for that parent who standard is it because here's the thing some of us because We're not involved in those kinds of belowboard Low vibrational activities.

We think that we're the standard.

No, we're not we are because they have no trust for us

Here's what makes it worse We have to convince those same people to vote which I I have stopped doing I Know that that might anger some of you especially because the stakes are very high in this gubernatorial election If someone has to ask me if a grown human being with grandchildren has to ask me why they should vote I will tell them not to don't if you don't see the importance of it

And if you can't conceptualize a future by voting for an executive or a legislator that will create a better future through policy, then you miss all of your civics lessons, you miss all of your history classes, and you just don't want better for your community.

Or what I should do is drill down a little bit more.

If somebody wants better for their community, because everybody does, I'm going to ask them, well, exactly how do you plan on getting that if there's not a foundation of policy?

Policy is not going to fix what is wrong right now.

We gotta take some responsibility in the decisions that we make every single day.

That's number one.

Number two, what elected officials gonna change the trajectory of your life?

Why do we expect that?

Well, Sherman, what has David Crowley done for me?

Oh, I love hearing that one.

What have you done for yourself?

What has anybody done for you?

Honestly look at the people that send your phone the people that called you last the people that texted you last When was the last time any of them did a damn thing for you?

And these are your friends and these are your family that you talk to and interact with every single day if they haven't done anything for you Why was somebody who was running for us like what do they owe you?

We want to be able to create a policy environment that allows people to realize their full potential if there are barriers

Let's reduce them if there's gaps in funding.

Let's even it out.

But it's not going to change the trajectory of your life.

Electing Tom, Tiffany, nor David Crowley is not going to change the attitude and behaviors of your kids.

They're still going to act the exact same way.

I could argue that some of the things that we may need, some of the critical investments in like social infrastructure and education may suffer under one administration versus another.

But overnight, you're not going to notice anything.

Hell, you may not notice anything for a year or two, like literally nothing.

While it is awful that Donald Trump is president for a number of reasons some of y'all are fine Now you don't like him and for good reason But you didn't lose your job.

I mean stuff is a little bit more expensive, but I don't know how he can make stuff cheaper anyway But if I have to explain to a person especially a black person where we were essentially created by law

Black people had to have a legal definition before we had a human one and I know that that's not right That's not fair But if you look at what policy and law can do for black people like 10% of the Constitution is like hey, let's make sure black people are human.

Let's make sure That they can walk down the street And there's obviously some pitfalls of that too because when Civil rights legislation was really starting to take root and then we could enter into institutions of higher education

All of a sudden, now you have tuition showing up.

That's not a coincidence.

And so what is our response to that?

Telling the kids they don't need to go to college.

They never want us to go to college anyway, and now we over here affirming it.

That's insane to me.

Yes, expensive, but you will not make a better investment than in yourself.

I don't care how much it costs.

I stand on that because it's worth it.

Because

nobody else

is going to invest in you like that.

Sure, and I don't want to spend a hundred thousand dollars in myself But you'll buy a hundred thousand dollar car when you only have a hundred one thousand dollars in your bank account make that make sense Don't let me get off track here.

I want to get to some kind of solution Because you imagine though an earlier example that I gave and it's highly unrealistic But if you can and some people just lack empathy you can't like close your eyes and empathize with somebody else's situation like those what they call sociopaths or psychopaths people that are just so arrogant and narcissistic and

They just can't empathize with other people.

Imagine if we have a beautiful exhibition of our culture and our art.

Maybe it's Juneteenth Day, maybe it's Black Arts Fest, MKE, maybe it's a number of different festivals that we have.

They're smaller, but they take place pretty frequently.

And a bunch of white kids from the suburbs made us have to shut down early because they were fighting.

We'd hate those white kids.

We would blame them, wouldn't we?

Absolutely.

So then think about when our kids go out to another community.

It's a whole west house is another city.

It's a whole another suburb.

They got their own mayor, their own common council.

So our kids are going out there and then acting a fool and fighting big groups, big, big fighting groups, big old bunch of people just throwing fists, kicking, whatever.

And then they got to shut down early.

Imagine how you got to pack your cow up.

You drove.

All the way down from Madden to walk and you want to make sure that everybody can see your cow because you were proud of that cow.

You raised that cow from a calf and you want to bring the cow to the state fair and then a bunch of black people make you have to go home early.

I raised my cow to show my cow to stay fair now because of the black kids.

I got to go home early.

I'd be real mad.

I hop on my cow and I plow right through that group of blacks.

I mean, that's they don't do that.

Thank goodness because that would be terrible.

Or what if.

The people at the state fair and stay fair is overwhelmingly white

and there's

blacks out there I mean, it's their thing kind of like brewers games which leads us to the YouTube question of the day.

I'm real curious about this one Because I noticed that the brewers are having Like a black day a black heritage black art black something Because black people don't go to brewers games.

That's fascinating to me as well because baseball is probably one of the more diverse

Professional sports.

Hell, a full third of baseball don't even speak England.

It's because Spiney.

I don't think Big Poppy ever learned England.

Hey, Big Poppy!

Hey!

Who do you play for?

The Red Sox?

Big Poppy?

It's very diverse, but for some reason, we don't really go to Brewer's games.

I haven't been there.

I don't remember.

Ten years, maybe?

No, not that long.

Probably 20.

Did the Brewers play during COVID?

They did.

I might have went to a COVID game.

Maybe 2021, I went to one, but I didn't buy tickets like somebody else had tickets and they just didn't, they didn't go or they couldn't go.

And so I took their tickets.

I can't remember.

I don't know if I've ever paid for a Brewers ticket in my entire life.

Isn't that wild?

I did a, um, so the Brewers had a, every so often they'll do a black night.

They'll do like a Negro league night.

Brewers were Negro League jerseys and it's weird to me because it's a whole bunch of white people that don't care about that kind of stuff.

But they did.

Oh, God, this is horrible.

So this probably was the last game I went to.

They did this trivia thing in the seventh inning where you pick a person out of the crowd

and it

was all like orchestrated.

They already knew the person they were going to pick, but they supposedly grab a person out of the crowd and because they were showcasing.

Don't know if it was black night Negro League night, but one on one seven the truth was the highlight so on a big screen They put one on one seven the truth and our lineup and the times our show was on it was actually pretty cool They put the up on a big the big screen and then I being a host Tory did it as well Did Kyle do I think there was a number of hosts that did like this contest because they wanted to feature

Black people or Negro League and it was something specifically black where they highlighted and focused on one on one seven the truth our radio station and in our different shows so it was my turn to do the The trivia so they they orchestrate this whole thing you meet with a person they go over the rules of the game and they pick somebody out of the crowd and I got a little note card and I got to ask them questions and then I got it They got to figure out like if I show the jersey number they got to say what player it belongs to very very simple game, right?

Public speak for a living.

I have never been I wasn't just nervous.

I was petrified American family feel holds 40,000 people and I'm standing on top of the Is that the dugout the bullpen it's got this wooden platform and I'm looking up and I had a damn panic attack I had a panic attack that was so bad so nobody could tell thank God.

I was so nervous I had to bring a friend with me

Oh, yeah, sure.

We'll just show up at seven o'clock.

We got parking for you and then come over into this office and we'll walk you and we'll go through the game and this is white girl wearing hands Okay, sure.

And here's a no card gonna read this read this read this and I'm gonna say this this and this I'm gonna go like this I'm gonna make sure you're speeding up make sure you and the person we're gonna pick is gonna be I'm like, what is happening to my life?

And I get up there and they announced the game and I stood up on the the platform which is this wooden roof they have over the the bullpen and I blacked out

I don't know what all I knew.

I don't even know what I said.

It was so bad.

Not that this has anything to do with black people going to Brewer's games, but I've never been so scared in my entire life.

Like when I think about that as a damn nightmare, I don't know what it is.

I'm usually fine.

I don't care about big crowds.

I've never spoken in front of a damn crowd that big.

But here's what's crazy.

I still maintain that on my bucket list that I want to sing the National Anthem at a Bucks game.

Cause I could do a lot better than some other people we've heard sing the national anthem a couple of seasons ago.

They had Flavor Flaves singing the national anthem.

And when I saw that,

I was like,

Jesus Christ, I know that I could do a better job than Flavor Flaves.

But holy smokes that I freak out.

And then so the game is over.

It was only like 90 seconds, but it felt like 17 years.

I felt like it took almost two decades to get through a 90 second segment.

I don't even remember I remember one of the players names because I had to announce the players name if the lady the quote-unquote Volunteer from the crowd and she was preselected ahead of time because you can't just pick somebody random out of the crowd at a brewers game because those people get drunk You can't do that.

You can't just pick they made it seem like it was random.

It wasn't it was some suburban white lady probably I don't know mid 50s probably from Greendale to Greenfield

She I think she even knew the answers to the questions that we gave her some fake prize or whatever it was Horrible chest nerve racking and so I asked the question on YouTube Do you attend Brewer's games first choice is regularly next choice is occasionally Next one is rarely

And then the fourth category is never.

And I'd imagine that we've done some demographic stuff, but I think it may change from day to day.

But for the most part, the people that participate in the YouTube chat that vote in these polls are majority African-American.

But this, the responses that I see, the percentages are in line with what I suspect we don't go to baseball games in the times that I have gone and has only been a few.

I only went to County Stadium.

I didn't go to County Stadium for the first time until I was probably 20 or 21 years old because I could drink.

I did not go as a kid because my parents didn't go.

My parents knew which white people to avoid.

And technically, I think they say it's Milwaukee, but really Miller Park, and that's not Miller Park, American Family Field.

It's like it's kind of in West Milwaukee.

West Milwaukee is a notoriously racist place.

In fact, when I was a freshman in high school,

When we played West Milwaukee, I played for high school football for Brown Deer.

I had never been called a nigger more times in the span of four quarters of football in my entire life.

I was like, whoa, hey, you got every single plate.

And the refs heard it.

We told the coaches they were yelling it in the crowd.

It was really, really hostile.

And then.

Something happened where we we ended up fighting them and they had to call and cancel the game It was a whole mess, but this is when I learned something about white people that if you are black and grew up and segregated Milwaukee and you've never had an abundance of experience with white people I can understand why you would hate them just like I can understand I'm not saying it's right, but I understand

Why white people that don't have interactions with and befriend and work with and collaborate with black people how you could hate us because all you see is really terrible stuff.

And here's the thing about the terrible stuff that you see about black people.

That's literally us doing it.

So it's not like it's fabricated.

You don't got to make nothing up bad about black people.

The problem though is when you see bad black behavior, I got to sit you down for.

300 year colonial history lesson to get you to understand why you may see some of these behaviors and ain't nobody got that kind of damn time.

I'm gonna sit here and explain oppression and what it shows up like and what it looks like and then the impact and influence of capitalism and segregation and reduce school funding and the funding flaw when it comes to education which is interesting because everybody will talk about how the

funding flaw is so bad for education, but don't nobody fix it.

I've been hearing about the funding flaw for 30 years.

We got to fix the funding flaw.

Just tell us you're not going to fix it because it allows you to give black schools less money.

Black children are going to perform less and you can push them to the menial jobs.

That's basically just tell us that stop lying to us.

But if you haven't grown up and

This had a bunch of like positive you have to have a lot of interactions with people of a different race.

I'm very fortunate in that regard But what I saw at 14 years old as a freshman in high school Is white kids that were on our team there were also my teammates football teammates That punched those other white kids even harder than we did

because the West Milwaukee teammates were denigrating us.

It's almost like we'll handle this.

They fought them harder.

Very few black people, very few, get to have an experience where you are defended by somebody white.

And this is also an unintended or maybe intended consequence.

Segregation I'll tell you all a million and one times.

I should not have graduated from high school.

I don't I should I literally should not I Graduated with 1.4 grade point average, but now when I go back with my adult mind I got screwed over so bad by my teachers They hated my absolute guts and some of it was raised some of it was I was smarter than a lot of my teachers in high school My god, they hate that plus I was bored to pieces like I needed to be academically challenged and I never was and I I hated school because it was stupid, but I found I didn't cut school

because you know I had Eugene and Emma to contend with and I don't want to hear their mouths if I got caught cutting school so I went every day but for me school was more like social interaction of being cool with everybody and talking to people getting to know people because Brown Deer back then was incredibly diverse now it's mostly black but it was it was Puerto Rican kids and I had a girl I went to school with from fifth grade named Rakishi she was from Iraq and I just knew all these different groups of people and we're all kids you know what I mean and kids don't know how to hate each other

I mean, we'd get some strong direction and influence from our parents on who we're supposed to hate.

But even if my parents told me to be cautious of the white kids, some of them were just so damn nice.

I was like, Eugene and Emma, y'all got it wrong.

First of all, they were from the Jim Crow south.

White people would just kill you back then.

They would just grab one of you off the street and let's go string one up and they would just murder you.

So I can understand my parents wanting to instill a very healthy fear of white people in me.

But what happened is I go to school and I got to be afraid of these white people.

They're terrible.

They're going to want to kill me.

But then I'd ask Trisha Metzger for a pencil.

She'd say, here, Sherwin, take the whole pack.

Or I forget my lunch money.

Here, Sherwin, come share my pizza slice with me.

I'm like,

wait a

minute.

Aren't I supposed to hate you, Whitey?

Might have needed some colored pencils for a particular assignment.

Oh, Sherwin, just.

It's your lucky day.

My parents bought me five extra sets of colored pencils.

Why did the white kids have so many more school supplies?

They were like their own school store.

Because for some reason, Sherwood never had a pencil.

Because I had pencils.

I never had.

I'm always the kid that had to borrow a pencil.

You can't ask another black kid for a pencil.

That's for sure.

Ain't got nothing.

Black kids go to class.

Ain't got no books.

If you know how we give all these damn backpacks away, they're not gonna have the backpack by the second week of school But I had so many positive experiences so when I needed one class to graduate I needed to get a ridiculously high grade on my algebra final exam and I remember that final exam was the last exam of the exam period my senior year so when I took

That test that like the school was empty everybody else was done with their exams They were all on summer break and we were to graduate that Sunday and I took that class was in the last day of school was a Thursday So I took my time with that algebra test because I knew I needed an impossibly high grade in order to pass the class and if you didn't pass the class Well, you don't have enough credits and math.

I would not have graduated from high school.

So I'm panicking and math is hard to study for you.

You know the concepts that you don't

So I tried my best to study.

I was real worried about this, you know.

But at the very least, I wanted to graduate from high school.

So I took my test.

I took my time.

I was the last person to finish.

And so I brought my test, my exam up to my, my algebra teacher, Mr. Sherfinsky, who I will admit I gave him hell because I had him my freshman year and sophomore year for whatever math freshman and sophomores were required to take at Brown Deer.

I used to act up in this class and this act of fool used to kick me out of class all the time But then it came down to I needed and I had him again my senior year This teacher that I gave hell was going to be determining Whether I got a high school diploma or not I would say got my would have gotten my high school diploma on time or not But I have a feeling I would have been so destroyed by not getting my high school diploma.

I maybe never would have gotten it

So I'll bring my test.

I

said, Mr. Shafensky, I'm gonna sit with you while you grab.

He was like, come on.

Have a seat.

He's got his answer key out.

He's got my test on the right side, the answer key on the left.

And he's going through my answers.

Number one, check mark, check mark, check mark.

Because back then, teachers, they used red ink, which is trauma now.

Now you can't even...

Like if you if you did bad on a test it was so marked with red ink It looked like it was bleeding and he's just going down and just I'm getting everything wrong and I just my eyes start to well up because

like I'm

not graduating and I'm thinking to myself if I'm mr. Sherfinsky I would relish in the fact because I gave him so

much

hell I would relish in the fact that he would stop me from getting my high school diploma So we get to the last question.

I clearly failed

I didn't get the high grade.

I needed like an A minus on that test and I failed it.

I just sat there and I was ready to accept my fate.

Now I'm starting to think ahead.

Like, what are my parents going to say?

What are my other family members going to say?

He said, I'm not going to do that to you.

Because I've seen you grow up and mature.

I'm going to give you whatever grades you need so you can go ahead and.

Get your life started.

And at that moment.

I couldn't hate white people.

I couldn't even if I wanted to because what he

if he was actually playing by the rules, he was like, no, you got to take this class over blood.

No, no, no, you go on the summer.

You're not.

You need to learn this, man.

I'm not sending you out into the world without knowing this man.

But he did it anyway.

And from that moment on, it changed me.

So I was 18 just barely.

But it encouraged me to find the good in everyone including finding the good in myself The truth with Sherwin Hughes on 101 7 of him will be right back

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I once had somebody tell me that Frankie ballet is one of the best singers of all time No way

If all Frankie Valley is better than all the Motown singers to that I vehemently disagree I Don't know enough the Italians like you know the Italians They're weird they I'll tell you what about the Italians Oh, they make a fine monster.

Chole.

Oh, they love Frank Sinatra Oh, they love him too.

Why everybody loves Frank Frank was a real gangster I like the blue eyes.

He's good every so often I play a little Frank Sinatra.

I'm in that mood

I sometimes think that I was born in the wrong era because there was something about the mid late 1950s early 1960s culturally in America but also I got to remember if you're in the wrong part of the country and you're black in the 1950s 1960s it wasn't a good time you know if you were more

in a more enlightened or more liberal part of the country.

I don't know somewhere in Northern California.

San Francisco.

That's almost too much

hippies

are dirty.

What's your problem with hippies?

I just said they're dirty.

And also don't be fooled because don't y'all hate boomers.

Who people just let there's a gen I don't care about boomers because I look at the baby boomer generation is different like those were

They were fighters and they were crusaders and they were protesters and I think that they moved the needle forward really for all people black people in particular so our black baby boomers are heroes white people not so much but here's the duplicity that I see so the hippies all turn into like corporates and turn into maga and turn into the boomers it's all hey what did y'all think the

The boomers were when they were kids they were idealistic and they were protesting the Vietnam War mostly because they didn't want to go They tuned in they turned on they dropped out.

They were doing drugs.

They were doing acid They were humping each other all the time the hippies used to hump and they were dirty yuck They're gross.

I don't Know thanks Not for me, but then they turned into the boomer like that was literally their generation

So I don't romanticize the hippies.

They're yucky.

I'm driving in today.

I'm so fascinated.

I'm fascinated by just regular stuff that I see.

I don't have to go and do exotic things to have stuff to talk about, just regular stuff that you may come in contact with, the stuff that you just witnessed.

And Milwaukee is the place that just keeps on giving.

So much so good people watching here.

That is one thing I'll say about state fair.

Oh man, the people watching you just gotta wonder Don't do these people know that it's the year 2026.

I don't care What year it is if you go to the state fair a large swath of the people you can't tell them it's not 1982 they're they're convinced

That it's fast times in Ridgemont High just came out like they're just convinced there's they're stuck in the 80s But you know the rural people want to talk about the rural people in a second because I say build the data center if they don't If they oppose data centers being built in their backyard then go find another backyard We need the data centers.

We also can't be hostile to technology, but I'm gonna talk about that in a second because I've got a pretty well thought out Set of arguments that I'm going to illustrate to you all about the data centers

So if people work out and some people are where they work out before work I Think that's a compulsion.

It's weird Some people deal with their problems by working out and then they try to shame everybody else because they post the gym pictures Shout out to people that you know are proud of their progress, but it should be personal That's my opinion because my thing is if you got a really dope body You know what makes your body even doper if you just post pictures of just you but not in the gym Because then we get even more than man.

Oh my god.

How do they get such a nice body if I see the gym pics?

Then I know how you got the nice body, but how about going to the gym and never telling anybody never think about that You ever think about going to the gym and not photographing it not spending a whole bunch of time in a mirror never understood that but whatever and gyms are gross too I'm not sure what's more disgusting hippies or gyms hymns or gyms are filthy Yuck, and then and then you got the women that wear stuff in the gym And then you they get mad at you if you look come on your butt cheeks are hanging out lady And you're doing squats

Sherwin, can you come spot me?

But don't

look don't you you pervert?

Don't look

but if you're one of those people and I know quite a few Let's take their fitness very seriously and they work out Before they go to work like oh, I hit the gym at 430

Yuck,

but whatever But when they work out before work they bring their clothes they shower

Get dressed at the gym.

They go to work.

Okay.

They prioritize their working out because it's a part of their life It's their routine.

They wake up early.

They go to the gym They work out they sweat very much a lot.

They take the shower They get dressed they go on to work, right?

and then there's the people that They bike like it's a part of their fitness routine, but

That's also how they commute not they may not bike every single day, but if they were they work out or exercise three or four days a week They'll ride the bike You understand how hot it gets sometimes in the summertime and walk and I always found this just it's vile I Had a teacher in high school.

There was a biker mr. Backus.

He was like a journalism teacher.

I actually loved Journalism very early on in fact I wrote for the school newspaper and one of the columns that I would publish

the brown deer bullet think about that damn newspaper was called the bullet you can't do that anymore when we were in middle school our mascot was literally a speeding bullet talk about something didn't age well not they eventually changed it to the Falcon but our newspaper was the when middle school I think it was the bullet high school was the Falcon but here's my column that I would write is I would I would publish

Whose parents are out of town and who would be having parties out in the school newspaper?

It was and it let me publish it, which was just dumb But mr. Back is Rode his bike every single day he had his little bike helmet He had in the classroom on his desk.

He wrote he smelled so bad Here's the thing that I don't understand.

I don't want to limit this to a race

There are some cultural differences in hygiene I don't know if you guys are ready to have that conversation, but it might get a little in my conversation might get a little stinky It's 95 degrees and you're commuting from Wauwatosa and you work downtown and you're riding a bike and you've sweated

the entire five or six miles riding your bike and you just go and you sit in a damn conference room and you're sitting in these closed quarters with your coworkers.

That is absolutely disgusting.

And they have no foresight to think like, wow, this is gross.

I'm going to stink.

But if you go to the gym before work, like those people that prioritize their exercise and their fitness, they know to take a shower after the workout.

But for somebody that rides their bike, there's other experiences.

I don't want to.

Say too much because it's pretty close to home where people ride their bikes to work and they just they sweat and you're disgusting Like there's no concept of like oh man.

I just sweat it and they're wearing like a shirt and tie On a bike I got the pants leg rolled up because I guess you don't want to get the chain oil on your legs So that's why they roll up one pants leg and it's just it's disgusting to me like come on Let's take a break come back

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This is weird because this obsession with a local

Concern is this it's weird.

There used to be a thing called local control where you know different Areas and different regions would have whatever their issues are political issues or social issues and if you're from somewhere else You look oh, okay.

Well, that's their issue in that town that they live in very rarely do we take an issue That is a local gripe and then make it everybody's issue.

I never understood that

There's so much to worry about in your own backyard.

Adopting somebody else's issue with AI data centers.

We need our kids to know how to read, but some of it is this though, too.

People are afraid of artificial intelligence because they don't know what it's going to mean.

They don't look at the worst case scenario, but that's with any new technology.

Anything that we are not familiar with.

We are afraid of it first.

We always think the worst-case scenario, but here's the thing with AI the worst-case scenario is really really bad But we don't have any evidence of that and we can always panic about what something could potentially be We have nuclear weapons.

Thank God they haven't been used since World War two.

They're Dangerous obviously, but worst-case scenarios.

Oh America's not gonna make it the world is not gonna make it until 1972 because somebody's gonna use a nuclear weapon always gonna use a damn nuclear weapon

It's a good threat.

I think we use them as deterrence, but nobody's gonna use a nuclear weapon because of what it'll do to the global economy It'll kill too many consumers Nobody wants to lose their entire economy just to blow up another country and in that country is gonna blow you up, too So it was something that was blown entirely out of Proportion, but we didn't know we were afraid we're afraid of this new technology harnessing the power of the universe to blow up a bunch of Japanese people AI is

The same we're afraid for what it may mean.

So we think that if we oppose progress if we oppose technology Then that will stop it Only thing you can't stop is time When automobiles This is before they were mass produced and they were being made on a limited scale There were literally people the prevailing wisdom in the United States is nothing will ever replace horses

God this automobile thing is just a fan.

I'm seriously that's a real thing The media at the time the newspapers at the time they bashed automobiles how ridiculous is this moving carriage?

They can fit several people and move them from one place to another place because back then there was no roads There was no highway infrastructure.

They thought that the cars were just This weird new mode of transportation that would only be for a very select

few people very wealthy people and it would never catch on well clearly they were wrong and the opposition to data centers I think is something similar to that sentiment we're afraid of new technologies and what it may mean but what I can't understand if you live in the city of Milwaukee and another community somewhere else that we know does not care at all

about the city of Milwaukee nor its people in fact they demean and they stereotype the people here now all of a sudden we have concern for them and them

Building or having a data center built in their community.

Did they say anything when they were gutting the African-American community?

Took away 8,000 homes and businesses I can draw a direct line from the poverty that exists today to the entrepreneurship and the home ownership that was destroyed in the 1940s to build these damn freeways and some of the freeways were never even completed But they tore all the houses down.

Oh, yeah, we're gonna build a freeway psych.

Are you gonna rebuild the houses?

Nope

You think the rural communities were concerned about that?

They wanted our houses demolished because they wanted to be able to get to the city with those highways that literally gutted our community.

They relished in it.

They wanted it.

Yeah, yeah.

Build a freeway so I can get to Milwaukee faster.

I don't care who we hurt.

But for some reason, he'll also think about these rural people.

They have opposite political interests in us.

But all of a sudden, and it's really interesting because the socialists have taken AI data centers as like one of their...

their signature issues like come on you guys like seriously and they know and they should know that in some of those rural areas and maybe it's a way for them to have conversations with rural people for them to introduce themselves and their brand of political organizing to people that have opposite political interests rural areas in wisconsin are trump supporters they are but also think that there's not that much difference between someone who is maga

And someone who upholds the tenets of democratic socialism and oftentimes they're related.

They're in the exact same family But the issue of data centers, I don't think that should be a concern of ours because look how much data we use Our phones our Gmail accounts the photographs that we take all that stuff's got to get stored somewhere because there's not a corresponding decrease in the use

data you're not telling people hey maybe we should use data less maybe we should send less text message maybe we should take less pictures of our food and less pictures of less videos of concerts this is the part I don't get I don't get a lot of things you go to a damn concert don't even watch the concert but you record the entire thing

You go to a concert and you see all these phones that are lit up because people are recording the show.

When are you going to go back and watch a three hour concert on your phone?

How about experiencing actually being there instead of taking up all this damn gigabytes on your phone and that data's got to get stored somewhere.

So I just find it disingenuous.

I'm going to talk to talk to Al first.

Al, you're on one on one seven.

The truth.

How are you?

I'm doing wonderful.

Hope everybody's having a wonderful day.

See what y'all have to understand.

The people who voted for Donald Trump has, their integrity is very pro-white trash.

OK?

So that's probably, you know, anything that deals with racism always ended in rape.

That's why everything went up.

See, the mindset is very 211 still reserved.

You know, that's why a lot of their daughters and their kids grew up to be junkies and little whores.

OK?

But when you bring up stuff with black people and your kids, that's in-house.

see a lot of stuff see you had a deal you got a different kind of currency because see you should know how to conduct yourself well get out in public and I don't mean acting like a monkey who broke away from the cage it was something that was instilled in you and we got to stop seeing what parents don't have no money because parents got money for eyelashes here three five buying all them regular used cars and then we say they don't invest in themselves at the time they have a higher center maximum

You had the Women Force of America where they had, when they would help you get an associate degree, they would help you get a daycare.

It was a lot of things, but they was not using that.

Okay?

So we should not say, well, you know, they don't have no money.

They have ways of getting money because I remember I went through some of those programs that money.

And some of the people in the program said they were trying to get to their baby daddy with the 20 inch rims.

Okay, so we got to stop doing that.

Y'all kids is out of control because you're not raising them.

That's the problem.

You're not taking time to put them in activities and find out what they choose to be.

Some of y'all use CPS because you don't want to beat your kids.

And I stand by capital punishment, because there ain't nothing that come out of my mind that's going to tell me what they ain't going to do in my house.

And I'm walking around here scared when I can hit you in your mouth with a fist and a broomstick, and y'all can tell you're slavery.

But when you get out in the streets and the police put their hands on you, who are you calling?

You calling your mama.

You calling your daddy.

And if your daddy ain't around, goddamn it's fine.

And that's who you calling.

Because they're not only people who are going to come bring the devil out.

So parents.

Do what you gotta do and if you do everything right and they get out there in the streets and f up that's on them and that's the consequences of they don't got damn action.

So let's stop it and push forward.

Have a good day and have a tropical buzz ball and a shot of gin tonight.

Bye bye.

Bye bye.

Bye bye.

Tropical buzz ball and a shot of gin but stop there.

Don't drink more than that.

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I'm a firm believer in progress and in technology and seeing how far the human mind can go.

I am not one who is ever going to be in favor of stifling progress.

I also know that progress comes with some costs.

I think that the automobile and all of the transportation options that we have has revolutionized the entire course of human history.

But a drawback is pollution, especially when you use fossil fuels.

But would you rather not have shipping and trucks and ships to bring goods and commodities from one part of the world to the next?

Well, of course you would.

We wouldn't enjoy the lifestyle that we enjoy if it wasn't for transportation and logistics and shipping and being able to move things over the road and across oceans.

But there's going to be.

some consequences to that and what we hope is that we can mitigate some of the consequences or at least the benefit that we are getting from these technological improvements.

and these new processes can far outweigh whatever the drawbacks are.

And I think that just being obstinate and just opposing a technology is nonsensical as much as it is a non-starter.

That's number one.

Number two, if there's a local issue in a rural community that has nothing but the greater benefit to the state of Wisconsin, our economy, or technological advancement, screw their local issue.

You can't stop progress.

Move somewhere else.

What do you want me to do?

We couldn't stop progress when it steamrolled its way through our neighborhood and our community.

But now all of a sudden we feel sorry for these rural farmers that I could say are partially responsible for why we got Donald Trump 2.0.

A major AI data center is fundamentally different from a typical warehouse or an industrial building.

It represents billions of dollars of capital investment in the region, creates large construction, rather, ecosystems, generates permanent high-skilled jobs, expands the technology sector, and potentially attracts additional businesses.

They want to locate near advanced computing infrastructure.

So because people don't know a lot about the details of these data centers, they can capitalize off of misinformation.

First and foremost, what are we going to do to stop the spread of misinformation because lies and falsehoods spread faster and are more believable than the truth?

Because if people are afraid and if they're nervous, they don't know what AI is and what am I ultimately turned into?

You can scare people.

You can scare those people in those small towns and those rural communities that this is, in fact, the boogeyman.

You can scare them and they'll be opposed to it, but it's a technology that we all use.

It's crazy because somebody might be going into some rural community to rail against this AI data center, but we'll use chat GPT for their damn talking points.

Microsoft said it expects to spend $4.7 billion locally between 2024 and 2028 on hyperscale construction in Wisconsin.

Anybody else spending that kind of money here?

Who's spending $5 billion in Wisconsin?

Other than Milwaukee and the weirdos in Madison, it's not really a lot here.

We need to do something with this land.

And I know what you guys are going to say, oh, and about the electricity and the infrastructure.

There's a fix for that.

Oh, and they're going to use all the water.

Some of these cooling systems are self-contained.

So your water argument is throwing out the window.

Let's talk to a mill.

You're on one on one seven, the truth.

How are you?

Hey, how are you

doing?

I'm good.

What's on your mind?

Hey, I hear you loud and clear though, and I think but I do disagree with a certain aspects of what you just said, particularly as it relates to why we should be concerned.

I do agree that we shouldn't just be generally concerned Milwaukee about what happens in certain places if it relates to the environmental factors, right?

I do believe the people best situated to decide those are the people who are.

located there.

That being said, and I think this is where the miseducation and just the misinformation kind of goes a long way because people start conflating things, right?

There are things that I think we all should be, I don't know, concerned is the word, but at least being formed done, right?

So you're half right.

We are the demand, right?

To large extent.

Every stream,

every chat GPT question, like you said, right?

Every photo to be back up, right, needs a place, right, to go to.

And people need to understand this.

Data centers have existed for as long as the internet and the cloud has existed, right?

But that being said, there is no denying the scale.

the rate of change in terms of capacity building across that being driven by AI technologies.

So that's something that we can't run away from.

But here's why I think places like Milwaukee can't sit out.

The data center may be in places like Port Washington or racing, but the bill's going to show up on the North side, right?

Because of electricity, same utility.

Because of how electricity

gets billed right people have to understand this you may not see this on your bill but there are three components to every electric bill that you get you get the actual dispensation of manufacturing of the electricity right the plants and all that stuff the transmission and the delivery we energies controls the manufacturing of electricity generation and delivery the american transmission company which isn't necessarily under the purview

of Wisconsin and is federally regulated right controls the transmission so transmissions will be you know the the polls and the things you see on the highway all of that stuff in normal times right whenever there's an expansion that gets split across customers all around the state right now people need to also understand that regulators

and we energies and even the public, the public commissions that have been set up by the government to regulate utilities are just sitting by.

So half the time when I see some of these conversations happening, it's like y'all responding to like old information because if you were paying attention, you would realize that, you know, the utilities commission set up has already.

Right, especially as it relates to certain deals, made certain changes to how some of this new generation cost is going to be spread.

If you're paying attention, you want to stand, then the FERC has told, you know, transmission companies in a region, hey.

Why shouldn't we put this cost on big data companies?

You would also understand that we energies will say having conversations with these companies, right?

And again, I'm not trying to say that these things are all going to lead to a situation where we don't get to bury the cost.

But I think understanding that gets us to understand what are we fighting for and how are we fighting for it?

Right?

I got to take

a break.

All right.

Your point is well taken.

All right.

You two.

If we are going to greatly benefit from this technology, maybe not so much now, but into the future, then the cost should be spread out.

That's number one, number two.

Regulation can require these AI data companies and manufacturers of these gigantic warehouses to have a disproportionate amount of the cost on the transmission and the increased energy use fall on them.

We're going to pick this back up for hour three.

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With Sherwin Hughes, talking about data centers, I say build them.

Yeah, if it costs a little bit more, but look at the technology that we're getting.

And if the cost is diffused amongst millions of people, fair enough, like how much is our energy bill going to actually go up considering the utility that we get out of the technology?

It's not going to double it, but also I'm not in favor of, because this is a democracy.

Know some of y'all hate that word and Donald Trump has made democracy falling out of favor and I can tell the tail ain't gonna wag the dog here I'm gonna need y'all to understand that phrase that analogy that euphemism the smallest group is not gonna control The larger part of the whole it's not maga shouldn't control the Republican Party

DSA shouldn't control the damn Democrats.

And what somebody who lives in a rural community of 97 people, their sentiments should not impact the technological advancement of the other 5.9 million people in Wisconsin.

These are my sentiments.

You do not have to agree.

And because you don't agree doesn't mean you got to get angry and have any animosity.

I just have a different set of ideals than you will be fine.

But that's what we have fallen into.

The smallest, tiniest voices need to be elevated to such a way that they can diminish the impact to the larger part of our cities, our democracy, our state, our country, and our world.

No, thank you.

That is an issue.

These small extreme groups, whether it be political or people that are anti-technology or anti-development, of course people in small towns are gonna be anti-technology.

They're not very smart.

They're not.

Because if they were smart, they'd have left a long time ago.

I can say that because I don't have a lot of rural listeners in my program.

Well, if I did, I got less now.

I don't feel sorry for you.

Know what your political sentiments are.

I know how you feel about this city I know that you vote for legislators in outstate, Wisconsin for no other reason than to make sure Milwaukee gets punished Milwaukee doesn't thrive So do you think I feel sorry for you if they want to build a data center right across your face?

Not my problem.

I love data.

I use chat GPT a ton Sometimes I just see something I take a picture of it.

Hey chat GPT.

What is this?

Hi Sherwin.

This is a blah blah blah blah blah.

Thank you

Pay for it too.

I used to do it a free chat GPT and now I'm paying I'm in it worth every penny so good.

Oh Xavier stop it Dude, you got Starlink.

Everybody's fine.

Everybody's fine.

I drive a Tesla You use I want Starlink too.

I was looking at some of the Starlink plans.

I was like hmm 100 megabytes for $50 Well, well, well Elon now Elon

Says some things that aren't very nice.

He does say some racially insensitive things, but you know what I heard today I heard black people talking about what needs to happen to other black people to go just as far as what Elon Musk has said about Africans So you got to weigh the good with the bad.

You know what I mean?

Like black people we sometimes don't like blacks either

Sure when the solution is lock everybody up lock up the entire family take away their food stem take away their housing I literally heard somebody call today and say oh of your children act up make the parents homeless That's if a white person said that it would be racist right, but if a black person says it it's being tough on crime And I'm not judging either way Just come on guys Racine's own consolidated plan

Estimated Microsoft's investment could produce approximately 4,300 jobs, 2,300 construction, and 2,000 permanent positions, and noted Microsoft's partner with Gateway Technical College to train workers now and into the future.

A person living in Milwaukee, Waukesha, or Washington County can potentially work in construction on the data center.

provide engineering, electrical, plumbing, or HVAC services, work for a contractor supplying the project, obtain technology-related employment, operate a business supplying the facility, benefit from workforce training programs, sell goods and services to those construction workers and those people that work in the facility, benefit from the increased regional economic activity, it seems that we would benefit greatly.

way more than the people in that community, so I say build it.

Wisconsin is competing for the AI economy.

The data center itself is not the entire economic prize.

The larger question is, does Southeastern Wisconsin want to become one of the places where the next generation of computing infrastructure is built or not?

Wisconsin's Economic Development Agency explicitly says its data center initiative program is designed to attract the capital investment, the money, the resources, highly educated workforces, and high wage jobs associated with these new facilities.

Those are all wins to me.

Yeah, my we energies bill might go up a little bit.

You know how I can offset it, turn the temperature down a little bit in the wintertime, put on a blanket and a hoodie.

Oh, no, the data center is gonna make when we energy is coming.

They don't gotta be 72 degrees in your house in the wintertime.

72 is, you live if it says 70, you can save money.

Turn the thermostat down a little bit.

You don't need to have AC cranked up to whatever it's cranked up to.

Sweat a little bit.

Get you a little spray bottle if you get hot when you're sleeping in the middle of the night.

Turn air conditioning down a little bit if you're worried about the we energy's bills the way some of y'all The temperature you have in some of your homes.

You're paying a lot of money for that My house is insulated poorly I Got quoted on windows is like 13

grand.

I was

like nah I'm cool cuz I got weird custom window sizes and they got to make them all custom.

Oh But it'll save money in the long run

How much of a long run are we talking?

Oh, these windows will pay for themselves in 30 years.

It's either when I turn the air conditioning on.

It's either frostbite in my house and oh, it's too cold.

Let me turn the AC off.

Then it's Jamaican hot.

It's so it gets so hot.

Did I actually start speaking in Patois?

Well, I know turn it down heat doing give me some ox tails and some cabbage and some peas and riots Well, I want Jamaica and then I turn the AC on and then What does a cold person sound like can I say Eskimo Eskimo I can say I thought that they didn't like to be called that they build the igloos

Who said you can't calm that I don't know it's a political correctness of you can't call people Eskimos anymore.

You can't call little people midgets

political correctness is dead.

I think so

yes

I've noticed that but there's some words that I still can't bring myself to say You know like what?

I'm not gonna say cuz people get very angry over this word, but when I say it though

I'm just gonna let you guess.

I don't mean the word to degrade certain people of lower mental acuity.

You know what I mean?

Like, I don't mean it that way.

Tell them what the R word.

I'm saying that all the time.

I mean, who says it all the time?

I do.

No.

Not on the air.

Yeah, no.

They don't, you know what I'm supposed to say.

But sometimes it's the only word that fits and I don't mean it to like degrade people You know what I mean like that's no no no no not them, but there's some people That act they're smart It's worse if you're smart and act on if you know better and just don't do better.

That's just Hoof.

Ah, yeah, yeah, I don't like that people don't use their common sense common sense isn't common

And Microsoft has already completed its first Mount Pleasant facility, which calls, which it calls the Fairwater AI data center.

Microsoft says the facility is intended to power the next generation of artificial intelligence and innovation and create long term economic opportunities locally.

Like why are we mad at that?

If Wisconsin becomes a major AI infrastructure hub.

There can be second-order benefits.

AI data center, construction, utilities, engineering, technology, workforce, suppliers, startups, research, and additional investment will follow.

Could Milwaukee County residents be adversely affected by a data center being built in Racine?

Yes.

But the mechanism is important.

A Milwaukee resident is not going to experience a Racine County data center simply because there's a large building in Racine.

The potential regional impacts are primarily electricity infrastructure.

This is probably the single most important regional issue.

Large AI facilities consume enormous amounts of electricity around the clock.

Wisconsin's regulators recognize this explicitly.

The Public Service Commission said,

Data centers are large enough that their demand can affect generation and transmission infrastructure.

And it's April 2026 decision specifically addresses the risk that costs associated with serving data centers could be shifted to existing customers.

But if we're using the technology, shouldn't some of the cost be shifted to us?

But then also you can require with regulation and very.

Careful policy for these data center companies like Microsoft to foot the bill for the increased infrastructure that we need.

We need to upgrade our infrastructure.

Anyway, Joe Biden told you that with the infrastructure bill, our electric electricity grid is old as antiquated.

It can be hacked.

We got to upgrade and why not upgrade it for the sake of this new technology.

So you're not going to get me to be against the data.

So now I'm going to give you now there's some cons obviously.

But in the grand scheme of things, bringing billions of dollars to Wisconsin and having Wisconsin be known for something, being known as a tech hub where we can get engineers and high income people and highly educated people to come here and to move to Wisconsin and to buy houses and to pay more property taxes and to spend their big fat AI data center.

Paychecks and then pay more income taxes and pay more sale taxes.

Ladies and gentlemen, that's the net positive.

I'm sorry if you live in a rural community We got to do something with your land.

You ain't farming on it Got all this land just sitting there.

All you're doing is walking around barefoot in the tulips No, we need that land for technology because I like chat GPT and I need a place to store all my photos I'd rather store my photos right there in your backyard in a data center.

I need to store the photos got had a cloud

No, Sherwin, but the data centers are gonna hurt the rural people the rural people have been trying to hurt us with their vote for the last three generations Well that no you have to feel sorry for small-town rural folk.

No the hell I don't I mean, I think the only reason why I feel sorry for them because I come to find out they don't have enough dentists There's not more dentists need to be in rural areas because their teeth are jacked You gotta have teeth.

I like my teeth.

I brush my teeth at least two times a day

People that say they brush their teeth three times and that's weird.

That's an obsession.

Who brings a toothbrush to lunch?

You have a compulsion.

You don't want to brush them too much.

You got two times a day is good.

Brush them in the morning time.

Got to get that plaque.

Got to get that tartar.

Okay, then you go through your day, eat your little lunch, go through your day, eat your little dinner, have your little snacks.

You guys like little Debbie's.

Some of y'all like cream pies.

You like cream pies Xavier you like cream pies Yeah, I love cream pies You ever you ever make one they're not probably not very difficult to make when you think about it Just oatmeal cookie with some cream in the middle.

Yeah, I've made a lot of cream pies Okay, so whatever you have your little cream pies and then this is nighttime It's nighttime and you got to go to sleep.

You got to have a routine.

I Like to take my showers at night.

I like to wash off the day's dirt

Take my shower I Brush my teeth and I start my wine down Watch me a little television.

Maybe watch me some educational so I have smart dreams And I go to sleep and I brush my teeth two times I Haven't had a cavity since I was 31 and when I got that cavity of 31 I was very angry.

It was a small cavity It was one of those cavities like oh you got a small cavity it can wait until your next dentist appointment You better get this Joker now like oh, no, it's tiny

Don't tell me that.

I don't like that.

Oh, we don't have to worry about it yet.

Well, I'm gonna worry for the next six months dentist.

Feel this Joker.

And it's not even that bad.

It is drilled it out.

Once you get over the sound of the drill.

It's not that bad.

You

smell a little smoke.

That's all right.

It's just your tooth.

I enjoy the dances.

I do too.

I fall asleep in a dentistry.

It's easy to do I used to be afraid.

I don't even know where my fear the dentist even came from But not cuz I get a text message.

Oh sure when it's time for your you know your check I'll

damn near fall asleep in the barber chair.

I Don't worry about that.

Oh

You don't have them shape up your beard.

I do.

No,

let nobody know

professionally shave your head

It

doesn't you don't need a professional for that

Oh, it's a whole treatment.

You know, they get all the dead skin off.

You know,

I got a luffa.

I don't need nobody rubbing on my head like that.

But I also don't.

I don't want a professional massage either.

You don't like massages?

I don't want no stranger rubbing on me.

I don't know you.

That's gross to me.

I'm serious.

Yeah, I don't like

it.

So you never got a massage?

Never, ever.

I've had somebody offer to pay.

Like if they were too adamant about it, that's why it sounded even more weird.

Oh my God, Sherwin, you've never had a massage.

Here, I'll pay for it.

I'll pay for it.

Get naked and a person walks in and they're going to they're going to oil you down and rub on you.

I couldn't.

Like get out of my head enough to actually enjoy a stranger rubbing on me and it's with women too.

They'd love to get massages Yeah, but if a strange man in any other context even brushes up against them they quick to call them some kind of a sexual assaulter, but we'll let a straight Weirdo stranger oils them up.

Uh-uh.

Well, I've never gotten a massage by a male, but you know next time in your Vegas I have a few spots for

you

You ain't gotta go to Vegas for a tug.

There's tugs all over the place.

Oh, I didn't know that.

Let's see if somebody's calling right now.

Look who's calling.

I know he knows about tugs.

I'm gonna take a commercial break, come back and grab a telephone call.

I am not opposed to data centers and because a small town might see some adverse impact, sometimes to move the needle forward and to provide technology and to provide...

High-end jobs and provide all of the other benefits that can come sometimes You know you got to take the good with the bad But I'm not gonna be over here concerned about what's happening in small towns the small towns ain't got no kind of concern for us I say build it because I need somewhere to store my food photos because when I go out to eat I got to take a picture of my damn food and that photo got to be stored somewhere You got to put it in the cloud and if the cloud happens to be in your backyard Mr. And Mrs. Johansson, what do you want me to do?

Maybe you should have moved.

Oh,

you're one of those people that take photos of their food

It's delicious and the presentation is nice absolutely because I like to recommend restaurants and one and but I'm not one of those weird food reviewers because all that stuff is That stuff is fake because there's some food reviewers.

I'm not gonna name any names They love everything that they eat oh ten out of ten ten out of ten first of all Nothing is a ten out of ten.

There's not that many restaurants

that are 10 out of 10 because I've been to some of those restaurants that these fake food reviewers give a 10 out of 10.

You know what they do?

They extort restaurant owners.

How do I know?

Because my friend that owns a very popular restaurant gets extorted by food reviewers all of the time.

Here's what they say.

We're going to come to your restaurant.

We're going to order an unlimited amount of food.

You're the restaurant owner.

You're going to pay for it.

You give us $900 on top of all the free food and all the free drinks.

And we'll give you a positive review or we'll come to your restaurant We'll order a limited amount of food probably won't tip your servers and we'll give you a bad review And it will impact your business the choice is yours.

He has to set money aside to be Extorted from these damn food reviewers.

So when you see these it's a whole like a hustle It's a whole hustle you extort and some of these restaurants.

I know the um

Oh, come on now, 60th and North Avenue, the Asian joint.

It's the Asian, come on now, the Asian buffet, the Vietnam restaurant.

They told a food reviewer to screw off.

But they know what they got, though, over at the Asian joint.

What is the name of that joint?

Y'all know what I'm talking about.

It's right there on the northeast corner of 60th and North Avenue, right there, a little Asian restaurant.

Got a little buffet.

And then during COVID, they transferred into

like a little Asian grocery store, they knew how to pivot.

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All

right, somebody stand.

Y'all gonna run out of water.

This is also probably coming from somebody who's an anti-vaxxer.

We're gonna, how you gonna run out of water?

You can't.

You know that the amount of water that has always been on earth is the same amount of water that's always been on earth.

You know water doesn't disappear.

You know that?

When somebody told me that, it kind of blew my mind a little bit.

The water in the oceans evaporates, turns into clouds.

Clouds get saturated.

Water comes right back down to form a rain.

Same thing, but if it's in the wintertime and the colder climate, the same precipitation comes down to snow.

Guess what?

You drink water as a human being comes out in the form of urine.

Same water coming right back out.

Water doesn't, same amount of water, water ain't going nowhere.

Water don't disappear.

You know what else blows my mind if you guys are into things that are really screw your brain up.

I would say look it up, but the explanation is going to defy human comprehension.

Watch a YouTube video on what is called 52 factorial.

You're going to be blown away.

It's written 52 with an exclamation point called 52 factorial.

It's very simple.

It tries to conceptualize or give you an idea of how many different.

Configurations a playing card deck can be in when you shuffle it right you have Four suits right you got your jacks your Queens your Kings What am I missing Jack King Queen I guess ace ace of the face card and Then you've got all the numeric values of the clubs and the diamonds and the hearts and spades and you shuffle it up

So basically whenever you shuffle a deck of cards, that particular comedy, if you lay all the cards out and you look at the order in which they happen to be in just randomly and you shuffle it again, that is the only time in the course of human history that those cards have ever been in that order.

If you shuffle them again, it has never been duplicated.

So 52 factorial, since we're talking about stuff that blows your mind a little bit.

It's crazy.

I just was like, talk about a rabbit hole.

I don't go down rabbit holes.

Very often because I fear I may never come back.

But the 52 factorial rabbit hole is insane.

So it basically says so to try and conceptualize the numbers like 10 to the 64th power times.

It's insane.

It doesn't make any sense if you look at how they try to write it down with a number of zeros.

If you.

How does it work?

Every one billion years.

OK.

You take.

a single step Okay, so a billion years passes you take one step By the time you have made it all the way around the earth's equator that's 25,000 miles now remember you're taking a single step every billion years you still aren't even a tenth of the way of All the different combinations a card that can be shoveled in so then they say after you've taken one step every billion years by the time you get

All the way around the earth here's what you do you take a spoon and you take one spoonful of water out of all of the oceans Okay, it's every billion years now.

So every step is a billion years once you get around the earth once now you start to empty the oceans By the time all of the oceans are empty You're still not even halfway there and then you got to put the water back in the ocean and then use the next one is you take every

Billion years you take another step put a stack of paper on the ground Every one billion years put another stack of loose leaf paper on the ground by the time that paper stack reaches the moon You're barely halfway there of the different combinations of shuffled deck and being and I just went down this rabbit hole It was just insane.

I was like a billion years between steps other way a minute What about a billion years around the earth?

No, no one step

So a billion years you're moving every three feet by the time you get 25,000 miles you ain't even scratch the surface that is Also explains my mom look at blackjack.

Yes, and that's six decks It's all chance ladies and gentlemen Let's see what we got in the YouTube chat anything worth reading Aaron says the foot massage is fire too

Brothers it's okay to get treated so I've gotten a pedicure before Because I don't know what happened, but all of a sudden it's not cool to wear flip-flops anymore.

I Don't It's not cool and not that I really care about the fashion Understandings of a younger generation because I mean screw them, but apparently you can't wear ankle socks anymore.

Those aren't cool and then you're not supposed to wear

Flip flops, but they call them thong sandals.

I think that sounds very derogatory But I used to wear flip flops all the time because when it's really hot.

I don't want socks It's hot.

I Don't like it.

I used to wear flip flops here and holy smokes when Carrie was here.

Oh, she used to make fun of me so bad I don't have bad-looking feet for a man.

Some of y'all got hammer toes and bunions some of y'all toes oof her jacked up, but I would get

I've gotten pedicures, but I've gotten to it was actually kind of nice Would I do it regularly?

No, because I don't necessarily consider that a part of my self-care routine But I would get a pedicure Just the start of sandal season because my feet are gonna be out because when it's really really hot like first thing I do when I get home to take off my shoes and socks I don't like stuff on my feet like that So I've gotten a pedicure before I wouldn't a manicure.

That's that's gay Geez it is.

I'm not gonna sit there.

Hi Ling Ling.

Can you please?

Can you do my nails for me?

No.

I cut my fingernails.

I keep them short because long fingernails on men vile.

Disgusting.

Disgusting.

Oh, women will tell you, if you got long nails as a man, you have dirt under your fingernails.

You're not getting laid, sir.

Not even a little bit.

It's horrible.

So bad.

I cut my fingernails, keep my fingernails.

I mean, they're even, but I'm not getting them all done by Ling Ling.

Sit there and Ling Ling share and have her talk mess about me in Vietnamese.

No, thank you.

Not doing it.

But the pedicure I've got, but there's a whole bunch of people in the YouTube chat, so I'm, oh, Sherwin, you need to get a massage.

So you're wearing flats with a thong

in them?

I don't wear it.

I just wear them around the house now.

OK, good.

I wore them on vacation when I was in Memphis, because I don't care about my family things, literally about anything that I do.

They can have all the opinions they want, but, you know, I don't care.

But I don't wear.

I used to wear them just like to work and just out and about, because, you know, in radio, nobody can see your feet.

So I wouldn't care.

I guess you can't wear flip-flops anymore, but slides are stupid slides are slippers So we traded flip-flops for slides and then you guys wear socks with slots wearing socks with sandals is a sin That's why we listen to a generation of wear socks with sandals It's ridiculous.

Oh, we got to talk to Derek.

I forgot all about there Sorry, Derek.

I forgot all about you.

Hi.

How are you?

I'm doing okay for Sharon.

I want to tell you some of you took my data centers

and they had a person who was from, they had a show here and they were talking about data centers.

I'll speed it up so it makes sense.

Anyway, this guy was from Texas and he was just talking about, you know something, what you need to do, you need to, every state needs to do what they've done in Texas, meaning that he says Texas has the largest number of data centers and you need to deregulate everything.

And besides the deregulation, he said, no, deregulation is wonderful.

It works in Texas.

And he was comparing it like when you're choosing your phone service, like if it's too hot and as far as electrical things, if it's too high, what do you do?

You switch services, right?

And you go to some other services.

So he said,

no, we can't do that in Wisconsin.

We have a monopoly in our.

I understand that.

That's what he was saying, that he said every state needs to do like they do in Texas, deregulate everything.

And then he said, somebody asked him about the electrical cost and everything.

And that's when he was talking about, well, if you had to deregulate it, electrical grid or something like that, I mean, you could do like they do where if it's too high, I mean, if you don't like the cost at T-Mobile or Verizon, what do you do?

You switch to a different service.

He's just talking about total freedom and he says that's the problem with a lot of states They just need to deregulate deregulate and deregulate as far as the water I

would ask you to look up what happens when you deregulate your Electricity the power out is yeah, that's what somebody it's a huge That's not worth it.

Yeah, let's let's land a

plane

I understand that this is a person from Texas.

And he was just saying, and that's what he was talking about, uh, data centers.

He said, if it's too, if it's too high, you just switched to another service.

That's what they do in Texas.

But we can't do that.

And most places are not going to do that.

I understand that.

I understand that.

What are we talking

about?

I understand.

Okay.

We're talking about data centers.

I see the runway, Derek.

Wheels down, landing gears out.

Let's, let's land it.

Okay.

When he when he was just saying if more states would do like he was just saying that towards water.

As far as using water, he said you can have a closed loop system.

Where it is recycle the water through the.

These data centers because they didn't do they according to him, they do get very hot.

But you just keep on recycling the water through that and that way you wouldn't be using a lot of water.

I mean, I don't know.

The most of our closed loop because.

They don't have access to unlimited amount of water.

You're correct.

All right, there.

Thank you.

And I was just, I was just bringing it up because that's, uh, that's what the guy from Texas was saying.

And he says, and I hate, like you said, he says they hillbillies, I guess, or they just need to move on to the 21st century.

All

right.

And get rid of, they don't believe any kind of regulations in Texas

at all.

That's right.

And that's actually not a good thing.

It's a net negative when you don't have regulation because then when the power goes out, it's hard to hold somebody responsible.

We appreciate your call, Derek.

Okay, okay.

Thanks a lot, Sherwin.

I was just passing along.

Okay, all right.

Okay, Derek.

All right then, now.

Okay.

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As if a bunch of white kids came to Truth Family Fest and started fighting and we had to close it down early at one o'clock instead of two.

We'd be very mad at them.

Would we be saying these white kids need a place to go they need their own thing to do no we want to kill them So when our kids go out to stay fair and going into somebody else's community, I shouldn't say that black people live in West house West house has come a long way used to be just gross old po-dunk working-class whites Kind of whites that even after they've taken a shower they still have dirt on their faces

That's what West Stiles used to be.

We called it Dirty Stiles in Brookfield.

Hmm.

Oh, um, you said not too long ago, Xavier.

Because we're talking about Walmart.

You said, oh, there's Walmart in Brookfield.

No, there's not.

Well, yeah, there is.

Where?

Right off the freeway.

When you, uh, yeah, right

off the freeway.

Yeah, look it up.

Oh, no, no.

So

or

is that technically New Berlin?

New Berlin.

Okay.

150 second.

I

still count that as Brookfield.

It's a whole nother city.

Yeah, but you know growing up

ray scene is Milwaukee.

Well, no, it's right next to each other.

But that that little gray area that's Brookfield technically to the people out there in Brookfield.

They

know that's Brookfield.

There is a difference between the Brookfield white or even the Brookfield black.

Oh, they're snooty.

They're high city.

I went to the Olive Garden in my nominee falls.

on Sunday.

I noticed something.

Oh, I got to have a story I put together last week.

I never got to it because we're probably talking about the election a lot.

And it's black people, we are underrepresented in the service industry in Milwaukee in particular.

If we are working in the service industry, it is rarely a host, a hostess or a server.

We tend to be in the kitchen or busing.

So we're not.

Not not as often.

In Milwaukee in particular, we are not directly facing the diner.

We're not serving them.

We're not seeing them as often.

I'm not going to say that there aren't African Americans that are.

that are not in the service initially, it's just at a much lower number,

right?

So we go to the Olive Garden.

My self, my mother and my brother.

And we're sitting in a section and we get a black server.

There's a lot of black people at that Olive Garden in Monomony Falls.

We love us some Olive Garden.

It was all sorts of blacks, a diversity of blacks.

Studs.

Older blacks look like they just came from church just all sorts lots of black in fact I think the african-americans may have outnumbered the white folks at least when we went there's many blacks there right so we're sitting in a section of course we get a black server which makes a lot of sense So we're in a very small kind of like I don't want to say it's a cordoned off area But we're just off of the bar.

There's maybe like four tables over there and our server comes up really nice guy african-american guy probably in his late 20s really

Nice great service very attentive decent a tenant, but not too attentive Here's why I don't like don't don't bring the food and before I had a chance to even take a bite How's everything tasting so far?

How would the first few bites?

Do you see that my fork is still clean?

I haven't and you lie anyway.

Oh, everything is good.

Oh, it's delicious even though you haven't taken a bite yet so a Caucasian family There's already another

Black family in this section and of course the black server is waiting on them, but they end up leaving then a white family comes in and they look Barry Washington County, if you know what I mean, if you know, you know, they just look like they're From a less cosmopolitan area and their dress just you gotta dress at least you don't gotta get dressed up to go to Olive Garden, but come on, dude

A sleeveless flannel and a bent up dirty trucker hat.

Come on, buddy.

It's too bad.

It's Sunday, too.

Come on.

Do a little better, but whatever.

You know that they had a white server?

We're in a small section.

You would think, and maybe they don't do sections that way, or I don't know how they trade tables.

But I found it interesting, but it also matches something that I have been told.

I got a lot of friends in the restaurant business, and it's a horrible business.

It really is.

Profit margins are horrible.

You got to deal with unruly customers and disrespectful customers Everybody wants something for free people will finish their food Say that they don't like it one another meal to go It's it's really really bad and then if you have an issue with your supplier of your food or whatever It is that you're serving you got to find another supplier like you might have a real popular fish fry But you were fish supplier all of a sudden they're out of business.

Oh, it's it's not fun.

It is not fun

But I get a lot of information from The details of the restaurant business from behind the scenes that tells me I would never want to own a restaurant ever White servers will argue Over

who

has to take the black table?

So a lot of restaurants will hire black servers to deal with and to wait on the black patrons I cannot say for sure and I certainly wasn't gonna ask our server if this was the case But we're in a very small section.

There's four tables in this section

And we have an African-American server, but then a white family comes in and literally out of nowhere a young Caucasian woman is waiting on on that white table I'm literally looking at segregation like the white family is right across kind of diagonal from us and they have a white server and Then we have an African-American server and the same little tiny four seat Section I wonder if that's true because I do know for an absolute fact

Then when white servers see African-American diners and they judge us they really do They and maybe that's not fair because I know some black people try to overcompensate like oh when I go to a restaurant I tip Extra because I know a lot of black people don't tip some of it is we've had limited exposure to the service industry And we may not understand tipping culture.

I remember going to lunch with a friend many many years ago

And we went to a restaurant where several of my friends worked as servers because I always feel comfortable going to restaurants when I know people because then I know the service is gonna be good if I got a complaint They won't roll their eyes at me.

It'll be taken very seriously It's just a comfort thing for me.

And so my friend was like, oh, no, sure one lunch is on me.

I'm like bet.

Thank you and the bill was like I'm not even lying y'all

Like $30 and let's say 90 cents Do live $31 and had the nerve to send the server someone I went to high school with and had the nerve to say you keep the rent you keep the change I had to then as we're walking out.

I went in my pocket and I gave her a $20 bill.

I'm so sorry for that He's oh, no, no, you you keep that 10 cents and this is a guy that I don't

When I say he's like he's the CEO of a nonprofit in the city Milwaukee if I say his name y'all will know who the hell this dude is and I I was like I looked at him sideways He's like oh service was good sure when I'm glad you recommended this restaurant or a bunch of your friends were I was like you left him 10 10 a dime.

That's crazy.

That's

I overtip Just because the stigmatism, you know the whole stereotype I just like to give him Something not to talk about

I'm not gonna overtip

Just for the sake of trying to overcompensate if I overtip is because I like this restaurant I like the people and I come to that restaurant often and when I walk in even if they have no tables I get a table because if they know I tip like I need to get something for my tip I Need to get but I don't go to places where the service is even going to be questionable I would prefer to go places where I know the person or I'm familiar with somebody there So if I had it's more to prevent if I have a bad service

Experience that I can complain and have it actually register and mean something because sometimes you complain they get mad at you I Want or because you got to mess my stuff up pretty damn bad for me to complain because I hate doing it I'm just one of those kind of people

That's why I need one of those kind of women like if my food comes out

just a

little bit off I didn't really order this or the food is really good.

I have one of them.

Uh-uh boo.

Uh-uh excuse me No, no, no, no come here.

No you get manager everybody come on cuz I don't like to be the ones you know what I mean to Raise all that ruckus let a woman do that.

They do it better than I do anyway

But I want it to be treated like oh, we're so sorry mr. Hughes We're gonna take this off of the bill next time you come in it's on us and our dessert is on the house there you go I'm coming back I'm coming back I guarantee it and I'm probably gonna spend you're gonna make your money back off of me if you treat my bad experience Seriously, and you sort me out.

Okay, we're gonna take it off the bill.

You know what?

We got we got the meal.

I'm coming back and I'm gonna spend more money the next time I'm gonna take a break back last break of the show

I was a little bit out of pocket yesterday, but professionally, not proverbially.

Back in pocket today, I really want to talk about that stuff that was going on at State Fair and what are we going to do about it?

The

truth with Sherwin Hughes will be right back.

This is the truth with Sherwin Hughes on 1017 the truth the truth app and 1017 the truth comm

Some people don't see

just because it makes the dining experience that much more expensive which I get I like in tipping in a weird kind of analogy it's like an association fee when you live in a condo it just makes condo living that much more expensive and depends on the particular condo whatever you're paying in an association fee may not be worth it so yeah they do basic maintenance and they plow them

parking lot and common insurance or something like that but it's some of these condo fees I think are engineered to be extra high to keep to price certain people out of condos because you can't fake it in a condo G and some of these condos in Milwaukee we have a lot of inventory some of those condos on the river they're like 60% vacant and the biggest

Owners of a lot of those condos that we have in Milwaukee because we way oversaturated this market back in the 1990s when they were putting together the urban plan for the next 30 years like Oh Milwaukee's gonna flourish downtown is gonna explode which it did Absolutely, and a whole bunch of people are gonna want to live downtown.

Let's over build condos Most of them are vacant and then the people that are buying them are from Chicago because it's so much cheaper in Milwaukee to buy a condo on the river

with a view in the third war with a boat slip than it is to own the same real estate in Chicago.

It's so much cheaper.

These people get the condo in Milwaukee, pay the association fees, get the boat slip and get a boat and it's still cheaper than owning similar real estate on the Chicago River downtown Chicago.

I think Chicago was way overrated.

It really is.

We ain't got to go to Chicago.

We got Chicago right here at home in Milwaukee.

You ain't got to go to Chicago.

We're a much better Chicago.

Chicago is just too big for its own good.

And Chicago, you will get murdered.

You'll get murdered.

You'll get murdered in Chicago.

They'll resuscitate you, bring you back to life, and they'll murder you again.

You get murdered two times.

What'd you do this week?

And when Chicago got killed twice?

Oh, for real?

You going back?

Yeah, I'm going back for the pizza.

Deep dish pizza.

Stupid.

Gives me

heartburns every time.

It's awful.

And it takes an hour.

OK.

What are you gonna have on the deep dish meat lovers combo?

Okay, you're gonna have a meat lovers cheese extra cheese.

All right.

See you tomorrow.

I do like portellos

though.

I'm trying to think about it.

Nope.

But portellos, I think it's portellos.

Portellos.

Yes.

I think it's out.

It's out there.

It's in Brookfield.

Yeah, I ain't going out there.

I'm going to Brookfield with nothing.

Everything I need is in Milwaukee.

If I got a step out of Milwaukee ever so briefly for certain I don't know goods or services I dip my toe in a while with toast up and I come right back to Milwaukee because why would toast is so close?

There's parts of why we're toasted basically are Milwaukee anyway, just like Glendale Some parts of Glendale are more run down the Milwaukee is but I don't I don't travel out That I don't need to there's nothing out there The only time I may travel to the suburbs my

Bank there's no ATMs anywhere.

I got to go far away to go and I don't like paying ATM fee Don't charge me money to get my money.

That's my money I'm charging you unless I need to get cash like quickly, which is rare I put everything on my credit card and just pay my credit card off Because then I get cash back.

It's just such a and also if If you get scammed if you've ever had like user debit card and there's a one of those card readers all your screwed bro

Like that's awful and it's real hard to get your checking account money back.

In fact, you probably won't get it back, but if you use a credit card and you get scammed, you can cancel the transaction.

You have a lot of recourse because when you use a credit card, that's not your money.

That's somebody else's money.

As long as you pay the credit card back or pay it off before your end statement date.

Well, there's two, there's a bill due date and there's a statement date.

The statement date, you want to pay your credit card before that because that's what they report to the credit bureau.

How you can improve your credit score they can a dramatic improvement of your credit score stop using your debit card because that's the link directly to your checking I get you want them little credit cards if you can and now you can have a Relatively low credit score.

Maybe you want those secured credit cards, but I'd like to think that I'm talking to people that have a decent idea of their credit and can get at least a Low limit credit card.

That's how I have operated because then if

There's weird charges on my credit cards.

They're easier to dispute than if it's a debit card where that's your cash.

You don't want to do that now.

Your checking account is for transactions.

I rarely use my debit card.

I'm afraid to use it because I don't trust using these damn machines.

Scanning my card.

CurlyQ says the only thing

that kills me in Chicago was traffic.

I take the train when I go, but also I don't need to go to Chicago for what?

If I find out I have to go to Chicago, it's usually oh.

Sure.

Well, what are you doing this week?

I got to go to Chicago.

Fat pizza.

And nobody want no fat pizza.

I want skinny pizza.

I want crispy crust pizza cut into squares.

I don't even like triangle pizza.

Triangle pizza makes the pizza taste funny.

Just like.

If you eat soup out of a bowl with a spoon and taste one way, put soup in a pint glass and drink it like a drink and it tastes different.

It's gross.

I love clam chowder, but if you give me a glass of clam chowder, I'll fight your family.

I'll be like the kids at State Fair.

Thank you for listening.

Lunch break is up next.