He turns the dark into blazing bright.
This is the day that we knew would come and we knew that we would have a conversation about what has transpired over.
We can say the most unusual, the most unorthodox and the most unpredictable democratic primary race for governor that we have ever seen.
There's a lot to unpack here, but first and foremost, congratulations to Milwaukee County.
executive David Crowley who pulled off an improbable victory last night.
I want to delve into the details of that improbable victory because when you look at the numbers and you look at the countywide data, all of which is starting to roll in pretty accurately now, even though there were some snafus with the city of Milwaukee, which we must talk about a little bit of a human error.
They said at the central count, which is what we were all waiting for.
I couldn't wait anymore.
I had to go to sleep.
Dr. Can and I did a broadcast on the Hughes Views 414 YouTube channel.
So we're just going to do an hour.
Maybe we'll do two, four and a half hours of broadcasting.
And by the time we both finally signed off, we still did not have a winner.
As I'm looking up at my monitors in studio, it looks like Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley is accepting the Democratic nomination of the speech he is giving live and in real time at the Sherman Phoenix.
So maybe at some point we'll bring you details of that speech or we'll play it for you another time.
But there's some things to take into account here.
So first and foremost, the county executive is no stranger to winning close races, if you can recall.
He was elected Milwaukee County Executive in 2020.
And guess who he ran against?
Another hardcore far left liberal progressive in State Senator Chris Larson.
It also should be noted that Wisconsin State Senator Chris Larson was an unabashed supporter of Francesca Hong.
He made that abundantly clear in a number of Facebook videos and online posts that he spread throughout this entire election cycle.
Giving his support to Francesca Hong at the same time bashing the establishment so when County Executive Crowley got elected in 2020 he beat Chris Larson by less than 1100 votes and There were about a hundred and ninety thousand votes cast so that was a very small victory as well, but the Person that he ran against in the political sentiments of who County Executive Crowley ran against in 2020
Versus who he ran against just last night their ideologies were the same I guess I could go into some long details soliloquy patting the establishment on its back because at the end of the day the candidate that was labeled establishment the candidate that was labeled to centrist and to moderate and not liberal enough is the one that ultimately was victorious
There's a lot more detail than just that.
And this is not one that is really easy to comprehend if you look at all of the polling.
And so the Market University Law School, let me be real clear about this, should never be allowed to release another poll again.
Because there's something that I suspect in how they do their polling.
They dramatically under index the African American vote.
It is the almost exact ward by ward coalition that got David Crowley elected to the county executive position in 2020 that exact same.
I've got the heat maps.
It is almost the exact same blueprints of the same voters that supported him last night.
But there's a huge difference that we are not accounting for.
And I've got a bunch of details on it.
Kelda Roy's staying in the race completely evaporated Francesca Hong's possibility of winning without Kelda being in the race Francesca Hong not only wins She wins by a comfortable margin of probably 25 or 30,000 votes and I got all the details on that Oh Fran, she should be very mad at Kelda Kelda never had a pathway to victory.
She did not there was no Calculation there was no political path
There was no amount of money that she could have spent.
Kelda has become a very familiar political commodity, which is not necessarily bad.
But when your brand of political commodity is that of ambition, Wisconsin voters don't like that.
When you polled.
Kelda Roy's supporters and they're a hearty bunch, not
ain't that many
of them, but it's enough of them.
And you ask them who their second choice is better than a third actually 34% of Kelda's supporters say their Francesca Hong is Their second choice if you ask them who their third choice is of course, it's going to be David Crowley, but it's kind of a distant third Kelda Roy's and Francesca Hong represent the exact same constituents and the same geography in Madison
and in Dane County.
Kelda remaining in this race and taking 60,000 votes in this statewide contest.
Was just enough to weaken Francesca Hong's coalition.
And so we're going to give you some details of that.
We got a YouTube poll question up for you.
Just curious.
Do you think that.
The Hong campaign will request a recount of these ballots now if it was within point two five percent the state of Wisconsin would pay For that recount but because it is just over there.
We're looking at about four point four percent is what the margin of victory is Somewhere is around three thousand votes.
I got the exact number somewhere in many of my open tabs here on my computer
Because there were some irregularities that's central count.
That's why it took so damn long That's a problem because the election that we are going to have so the next one run our way to November 3rd There can't be any election irregularities first of all this was a lower turnout election a little bit higher than we suspected but still probably less than 30% so that's par for the course
If the city of Milwaukee for whatever the reason of this quote-unquote human error Whatever the cause of that is the human errors may be compounded when you have I don't know three Maybe four potentially five times the number of voters.
Here's why this is significant and why
Francesca Hong would be well within her right to request this recount.
I don't know if it's going to change the result, but if there are errors in how we record votes and how we report numbers and the digital transfer of voting information from the voting machines to the central count, if there's something that needs to be ironed out and fixed prior to November 3rd, we got to get it done.
Let me tell you why.
Tom Tiffany is an election denier, regardless of what the result is going to become November 3rd.
And I think that we're all hoping.
for the same result, there's going to be skepticism of those election results.
So if there's going to be skepticism in election results, let's have all of that figured out and sorted out so we can get both sides, both Democrats and Republicans and liberals and progressives and moderates and independents and centrists believing in and trusting our system of how we count these damn ballots.
The poll that stirred me the most.
Was the internal poll that was conducted by the Crowley campaign?
When you do an internal poll you are asking real specific questions of voters like well if Francesca drops out then who you gonna vote for?
Well if David supports a moratorium on data centers are you more likely to support him?
Internal polls are about as leading and favoring of the candidate in the campaign that is doing that internal poll than anything else
He was even losing in their own internal polls.
He had never pulled better than 32 or 33% on polls that his campaign, the Crowley campaign paid for that essentially lead people into supporting David Crowley.
So when I saw that poll, I was like, it's very consistent.
He was not leading at any point during this cycle.
Last night it was the complete opposite Francesca Hong really didn't lead at any point as the votes were being counted.
So here's what we're gonna do We're gonna decipher some things we're gonna figure some things out and we are going to Rejoice just for a moment that I believe it'll be easier for Democratic coalitions to come back and coalesce behind David Crowley, but more importantly
I think David Crowley has the kind of political sentiments, especially when I share with you some of the outstate, very rural, purplish, if not bleeding, red counties that favored him over Francesca Hong.
There's some counties where the vote margin was four or five votes, and this only leaves me to believe all of you that said, oh, I'm not going to vote.
I'm going to wait until November.
If a few more of you would have said that in just a handful of counties throughout the state, this would have been a very, very different result.
That is why everyone needs to vote in every single election, even if you have to hold your nose and do so.
Even if you are not really a party, faithful person, everyone needs to cast their ballot because you never know when you're going to have a contest just like this one.
David Crowley is going to potentially help the Democrats.
Get legislative majorities where I don't know if a Hong campaign could have done that David would be very credible in campaigning in Senate districts and assembly districts around the state That are very competitive.
They're within the margins as well and David campaigning there on behalf of that Democratic legislator Could actually do some good because if the Democrats do not have a majority into in the legislature
Davis first term as governor assuming he wins is going to be exceptionally difficult and there will be lots of obstacles if he wants to get things actually accomplished The other big thing is we have a census Coming up shortly and redistricting is going to be top of mind For many many people and we know that the maps that we have now are much more favorable to Democrats will
The party that has the majority in the assembly in the legislature redraws the maps for the next census.
Assuming that David Crowley is able to win, he will be governor when the maps are getting redrawn.
So having fair maps that adequately represent Democratic voters and the districts in which they live in is paramount.
That is why this legislative majority is exceptionally important.
So now it's a lot easier for us to talk about.
Whereas if Francesca Hong would have won last night, then talking about these legislative majorities would have been an afterthought because her whole campaign would have been platforming democratic socialism and not necessarily getting a majority of even moderate Democrats elected to the Wisconsin State Legislature.
Got a lot to talk about today and thank you all for choosing to spend at least part of your morning with us.
And also thank you to those who spent a good portion of your evening with myself and Dr. Ken last night.
We had
We had an interesting broadcast four and a half hour live stream.
We did that was very impressive.
So thanks again to everyone who participated via Hughes views 414 on YouTube.
I'm going to take a break, come back and we're going to dive right back into it.
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David
That was both stunning, a stunning upset and an unheard of comeback to feeding the field's front runner with a Hail Mary effort in the final weeks of the race that was seen as a test of whether new Democratic socialist victories in deep blue states could be.
Replicated in Midwestern battlegrounds.
Let me first give credit where credit is due while I did not necessarily agree with the issues nor the sentiments of some of her supporters from a political science perspective from a grassroots organizing perspective talking about meeting voters where they are and responding to
political extremes coming from Donald Trump 2.0, the campaign that Francesca Hong ran was a beautiful exhibition of political science.
She did everything right.
Now, you may disagree with some of the things that she may have said during what we call woke one and maybe some of her tweets.
But when you think about it.
Both candidates had tweets from a long time ago that they likely regret.
But at the end of the day, I don't know if that, that mattered.
What she needed to do, and it looks like her strategy was executed, but she had a monkey wrench thrown in the plan and the monkey wrench that was thrown into this plan that I don't really think anybody accounted for.
Because again, we were relying on polling that was either inaccurate, under indexed for certain types of voters.
Where we just couldn't figure out where a third of the primary voters were going to go because they were still undecided Ultimately, it looks like they broke for the establishment and supported David Crowley and and just and just the right amounts to give him a very very small victory but also We all underestimated the popularity of Tony Evers This was very much a last-ditch effort.
It seemed like it was too late.
It looked like the writing was on the wall
Plus, this entire election cycle was very inconsistent.
You had candidates that were in the race that didn't have paths to victory.
You had candidates that were all agreeing with one another, which ultimately was a benefit for Francesca Hong and her platform.
Mandela gets in the race in December.
That didn't help.
Sara Rodriguez, who was supposed to be the heir apparent as she is still currently the Lieutenant Governor.
Her financial woes ended up tanking her campaign then David Crowley being respectful He drops out puts his support behind Sarah Rodriguez Then all of a sudden within a couple of days David Crowley is back in the race with the support of the governor I think at the end of the day that did it that help we all underestimated the popularity of Tony Evers and people think because he's not a fancy speaker.
He's not particularly flashy
He is not boisterous.
He's a very, very humble man.
At the end of the day, politically, I think that's the sentiment of most Wisconsin primary voters.
Remember, primary voters are a little bit older.
Young voters like to come out to the rallies.
They like to party.
They like to be where the excitement is.
They like to have their issues be promoted front and center.
But at the end of the day, the lowest cohort of voters in any election primary or general are 18 to 29.
I don't know what the details are of how they perform for Francesca Hong, but I don't know if it was quite enough But underestimating the impact that Tony Evers could have in this race is something that we probably all did But the 50 plus thousand votes that Keldor Roy has received Like I've got some statistics here.
I'm gonna read for in a second if like something like if three out of 100 Keldor voters
Would it voter for Francesca?
Because a third of Kelda's voters, so I don't know close to 17 18,000 voters Said the Francesca Hong was absolutely their second choice yet Kelda stayed in the right.
Kelda was a spoiler So David Crowley needs to send a bouquet of flowers and some chocolates and some teddy bears to Kelda Crowley defeated Francesca Hong by less than half of a percentage point in an election outcome
that none of the statewide polls predicted in every survey, including one Crowley's own campaign paid for.
Hong carried a double-digit lead in the race.
Crowley was declared the winner by the Associated Press early Wednesday, August 12th, after a series of reporting delays in Milwaukee, Winnebago, and Green counties.
There was something to happen in Winnebago County.
They had to count
the votes by hand.
You guys, we can't
have faulty election tabulations when the Republican nominee is an election denier.
Do you understand my concern about how this damn thing can go left in November?
Because if we have a similar result, and I'm not even going to try to predict the results of that one, I'm not in the prediction game at all because that's, that ain't my cup of tea obviously.
If this race is within the margins, come November 3rd, not only will the Tiffany campaign double down on election fraud, because what they'll do is they'll point to what happened during last night's primary, but the entire Trump apparatus that has built itself on election denial.
Including January 6th, which was a physical and violent representation of Donald Trump supporters denying an election that Donald Trump legitimately lost We don't want that kind of energy here And so I have to make sure let's do whatever we can to make sure whatever snafus or mistakes or human errors that transpired last night are rectified before this campaign against the actual election denier in chief
starts up Quote David is ready to get back to work build a broad coalition and win in November Crowley campaign manager Garen Randolph said in a statement Tuesday's election outcome underscored the popularity of Governor Tony Evers The Milwaukee County executive had dropped out of the race in July in reaction to polling that showed he had failed to break through in a crowded primary but returned to the race just days later
with an endorsement from Evers who holds a job approval rating of more than 50% in a recent market university law school poll.
I just can't believe anything that they came out of that poll.
It almost seems like, and I can't prove this, obviously.
I did send a couple of choice messages, emails, and a tweet or two regarding the market university law school poll.
Like their poll should be deemed.
Less than credible like fake news like tabloid from this point forward because
it
So I made a mention yesterday that An organization that I have been running for the last 15 years.
It's a political organization We use a pollster out of Washington DC and we've done polls over the years.
We've polled in mayoral races
we've polled when it comes to issues.
And we found that in 2020, it must have been 2023, maybe 2022, when Cavalier Johnson was elected mayor, the Market University Law School released their poll.
We then conducted our own poll using a different pollster out of Washington DC.
And our poll, and I remember seeing
It must have been 2022 because I saw Chevy at our one-year anniversary party for the truth So this must have been the winter of 2022 somewhere January 2020 and our poll had just come out and our poll shows Chevy beating Bob Donovan by whatever the margin was and so ultimately when the election took place the poll that we did not only was it accurate to the point it was dramatically more accurate
than the Marquette University Law School poll.
And I was curious then like how they got it so miserably wrong.
It was great for us and it was great for my organization because we were the credible pollster.
In fact, I was issued an apology by local journalists because we released our poll.
Like, oh sure when your poll is full of BS, Marquette University has the accuracy on the poll.
They actually apologized to me because they were miserably wrong when they said that my poll was the one that was inaccurate.
The Marquette University Law School under indexes for black voters.
They think that y'all don't vote.
And so they don't even ask black voters, therefore, and this needs to be noted for any candidate that's running for office.
There might be a stereotype and an assumption and probably a generalization, and I can understand why somebody would have that generalization, that African Americans don't vote just as a whole, but those of us that are voters don't miss an election, and when you have contests like this where literally every vote counts, we can be the difference.
And no one would suspect it because our participation is not expected.
Let's talk to Linda.
You're on one on one seven the truth.
How are you?
It's a great day in Milwaukee.
Hello, Sharon.
And the best of Milwaukee has stepped up and we must step up with him.
Hello, somebody.
I said this.
I said it.
I tried to contain myself throughout the whole intro of your monologue, but you know, I couldn't contain myself because I see it.
The best of Milwaukee has stepped up and the best of Milwaukee must step up with him.
We must be the change we want to see.
Hello, somebody.
I'm so grateful.
I'm so happy.
I want Sherri, you and I, you gonna come pick me up?
If we're going to dress up in all the election gear, I'm trying to tell you because I'm telling you, the best of Milwaukee will take down Tiffany and we will make a political stand.
Hello, somebody.
And that's a Marquette Pol guy.
He should be fired because, yes, they never pull us.
And I always wanted to be pulled.
I just called WISN and I said,
Why is that poll always wrong?
You know, he should be fired for that racist bias polly.
That's all I had to say, Sherry.
I'm just happy.
That's all.
Because this is a changing point for us.
I don't care what you say, Sherry.
Your powerball predictions is wrong.
political prediction in this case was the wrong and I'm happy to work but yes this is the best time for black Milwaukee to step up and be the change we want to see in this hello have a great day
huh all right you too all right then hello somebody sounds like she wants to get pulled by me
Why does she have to say to me and her gonna get all dressed up and no no no that has nothing to do with anything that happens Don't don't bring me into this.
I see that you want to get pulled Linda Not gonna pull No,
no,
a while
Want to make sure that the irregularities and how we count our votes are cleared up
If an internal poll done by the campaign, which are usually the most favorable because they'll give you some insight as to where you need to be and where you need to maybe change your messaging because they ask voters like if if David had this stance on taxes and the millionaires would you change your vote if David had this stance on Public education and fully funding public schools.
Would you change your vote?
So what internal polls oftentimes do is they give you a different pathway to pursue
And you can change your campaign strategy to to maybe adopt the philosophy of the voters.
He was losing even the internal poll.
So what the hell were we supposed to do?
But here's the thing.
There are some folks that just they just believed.
And maybe that's all it takes.
Maybe it has nothing to do with science and anything like that.
I have not yet considered.
Francesca Hong supporters and will they Will they get behind?
David Crowley, I think it was very easy for them to say when she was comfortably leading and running a really really fantastic campaign I think it was very easy for them to say hey when Francesca wins you all all you moderates and independence and centrist and establishment people
You all need to get behind her and their energy was very very strong because they knew that they would need the largest coalition possible to support Francesca Hong against the Republican because the onslaught of negative campaigning coming from Trump world and coming from Tom Tiffany and the Republicans would be overwhelming and
they
They've got a tremendous amount of resources to pour into Wisconsin
because Republicans have always had a tremendous amount of resources to pour into Wisconsin.
So building bridges between Democratic socialists and centrists, moderates, and establishment folks is something that her supporters needed to do.
Now, I'm wondering now that she was on the other foot, but here's the thing.
I don't expect Francesca supporters, at least not all of them.
I don't expect them because they have...
a different political philosophy, and that's why I kept saying throughout this cycle, they really aren't Democrats.
They're not, they're not team players.
I did hear a little bit of her speech that she gave last night.
It wasn't necessarily a concession, but I think it showed a tremendous amount of grace and a tremendous amount of class.
She did not go negative at all during this election cycle.
She very well could have, but she didn't.
She stayed positive.
She stayed optimistic.
She stayed up beat even we even got a benefit right she even changed her way now She
loves Thanksgiving again.
She used to maybe didn't like Thanksgiving, you know, maybe she didn't like it But now she loves it again.
In fact, I'll tell you what
Franny pants cuz now I'm back to calling her Franny pants If Franny pants invited me over for Thanksgiving, I would eat Thanksgiving dinner with Franny pants.
I'd love to talk to her about her Her fantastic campaign that she ran
Now I also think that some of the issues I'm not entirely sure which ones but some of the issues that she promoted It is probably in the best interest of the Crowley campaign to adopt some of them including She's gonna have to do a moratorium on data centers.
He's just gonna have to at least say it and then see How far it actually gets because the strength of her candidacy in rural counties I believe was based on
Her rejection of wanting data centers to be built and outstate Wisconsin take a break come back Continue our chat.
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Let's see
Early Wednesday, the race between Democratic Socialist Francesca Hong and Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley remained too early to call as 28,000 absentee ballots from Milwaukee were delayed because of a human error.
In uploading the results, I did speak to someone who is familiar with that human error.
And then this is what they told me.
And they spoke to me on the condition of anonymity.
I want to tell you who it is so bad, but I can't do it.
I got to respect my sources Apparently, this is what happens.
So it's not some huge conspiracy.
It's not all of a sudden we found 15,000 votes for David Crowley,
which is kind of it's kind of what happened They're like, oh, what are these?
Oh votes.
Look at let's count those
This is what it came to somebody didn't push a button
Like there's a upload to the flash drive button
Imagine if that's what your only job is Hey everybody hey, I'm I'm here clocked in hey everybody look It's the flash drive guy because the flash
drive guy you only see once every four years You don't see the flash drive guy all the time because you don't need them and they show they got a suit on probably Probably red white and blue suit
Cause it's real patriotic cause you're the flash drive guy.
That's what you do.
You're the, you take the flash drive and you flash drive it.
Okay.
And the flash drive guys,
everybody step back.
Let me work.
Everyone clear the way.
Oh, the flash drive guy is here.
He's going to do his work.
Probably real flamboyant with it.
Probably got on glittery socks like Michael Jackson because he's a flash drive guy You got to be a little flashy because this is the job.
This is what he does He makes sure that all the very coveted data that goes into our very precious babies of the electronic voting machines
Side note on that.
I wonder if anybody else had this experience.
Don't worry.
We're going to get back to the inept flash drive guy in a second.
I think the flash drive guy went down to Illinois and got to some dispensaries and got some dispensary.
He was like, I'm the flash drive guy.
I'll get high if I want to.
Can't tell me I can't get high.
I'm going to go down to Illinois.
We probably should flock camera the flash drive guy to see if the flash drive guy was high bars.
So when I go vote yesterday, I was number 48 at about 145 in the afternoon, which is not horrendously low for my voting ward, but nothing really to write home about.
So it was hard for me to ascertain what the black community sentiment was because my ward that I live in is exceptionally black.
I only see white people in my neighborhood by accident.
They're they're on their way somewhere else if I see that we got a couple of whites I like my wife's we've got a couple of decent whites But I don't see very many of them and I'm actually okay with that That's fine.
So when I Approach the table at Ward 159 at Sherman school on 50th and locus
Two black ladies there one of them recognized me from one on one seven the truth God bless her she is I had to say my name and I give my ID I said Sherwin Hughes.
She said Sherwin Hughes from 109.9 a.m.
FM
EDC Washington DC Sherwin Hughes from 94.5 WKLH.
I was like, um close enough.
Oh, I listen at you every day Sherwin Hughes from 98.3
W
Oh, thank you ma'am for listening to me on 102.9 the rock So I give them my identification they find my name in the poll book I sign my name right next to The print out in the poll book and then a white feller comes up from nowhere.
Why white people just be coming out of nowhere It's a very black experience.
I'm having yesterday
Going to my polling location in a black neighborhood the two poll workers sitting at the table or two black ladies One of them recognized me from the radio Even though she couldn't exactly name the frequency.
Are you sure when he was from 82.6 the beat?
Yes, ma'am.
I am And then the white guy comes up and says do you want do you want to vote with this ballot right here?
Do you want this ballot here?
I said, what is that?
He said, oh, it's electronic.
You feed it into the machine, and then you can vote on a computer with the touchscreen.
And he's like pushing the ballot into my hand.
I'm like, hold on, Playboy.
I said, I don't know what that is, dawg.
I said, what is this?
He said, no, no, it's electronic here.
And it's like a blank piece of paper with some.
There was some writing at the bottom, but it was mostly blank, but I guess you slide it into electronic voting machine, which I have never seen in my polling location before.
And I've been voting at the same place since 2006.
I don't like change, especially when I'm going to do my duty now.
So this white dude just comes up.
No, no here you want to do this with the electronic belt?
I said this is not the time to experiment sir And he's still pushing were any of you asked or encouraged to use touchscreen voting because I didn't like that because he was like pushy because I'm thinking of myself First of all, why was he so adamant about me changing the way that I vote?
No, no, I like to scan trying.
That's what I like.
Give me the ballot I Want to take my pen because I try to be real neat in a circle
I challenge myself to not have any of my ink outside of a circle.
I like to do that.
Leave me alone.
I find joy in the smallest of things.
You find joy in small things.
Sherwin finds joy in small things too.
But then the white feller comes up and he was very white.
It's extremely Caucasian.
Here, electronic.
I don't want to do that.
And I'm glad that I didn't because what if some of these irregularities with the flash drive guy was people using that damn electronic voting.
I like it the old-fashioned way.
I want a paper ballot that can actually be tracked.
A piece of actual paper because these are not the days and times that we mess around with.
This is just my opinion.
For those of you that like to vote electronically and you feel more comfortable doing that, I don't like it because whatever is on that computer...
I believe can be some kind of way manipulated and I don't know what our cyber security is here in the city of Milwaukee.
What if we got a federal grant to make sure that we have cyber security in our elections?
But if Donald Trump and his Department of Justice doesn't like Wisconsin because we tend to be a little bit too blue voting for him?
And what if the city of Milwaukee lost hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars in cyber security grants?
And what if there are actual vulnerabilities in our voting machines?
I actually think about this stuff.
I didn't like it.
So Whitefeller, if you're listening, relax.
Trying to push your electronic voting on me, Mr. Mann.
Apparently, the flash drive guy did not push the proper button to upload the data that was electronically recorded from City of Milwaukee ballots yesterday, and that led to an incredible, incredible delay.
However, I have been assured.
that all of the counts are up to date and they are accurate.
I'm going to take a break.
Come back.
I want to save this next part for an hour or two.
So I'll do another segment on some of the incredibly slim margins that David Crowley won by and some of these outstate up north counties.
And some of these counties, David probably never even went to.
There's no way he went to all 72 counties.
Because some counties, I'll be honest with you, not worth going to.
Not worth going
to a county that has more cows.
and more Ford F-150s than you have actual voters.
But he was able to get very, very small vote margins in some of these very, very rural, very rural counties.
So that must count for something.
And maybe that's on the strength of the Tony Evers endorsement.
You're listening to The Truth with Sherwin Hughes doing post-election wrap up, I suppose, of an improbable victory.
by Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley, in which he did defeat what we believe was the front runner for the entire cycle, state representative Francesca Hong, who we affectionately call... Franny Pants.
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of the state of Wisconsin, Florence County borders on upper Michigan.
David Crowley received 38.4% of the votes in Florence County.
Francesca Holm received 38.1% of the votes in Florence County.
Raw vote totals.
For those of you that think...
that your vote doesn't matter, your vote doesn't count.
David Crowley got 123 votes in Florence County, Francesca Hong got 122, a one vote margin.
That might have come down to a single household.
The wife was a supporter of David because he's a chocolate man.
It's very chocolatey, dark-skinned.
And the husband was like I'm not gonna vote for that darkie
I'm gonna vote for the Asian lady cuz I fetishize her and there you want vote What's another close one?
This one not someone was this what is this here Crawford County David Crowley 38.7 Francesca Hong 33.2 David gets 767 votes Frannie Pan's got 658 other candidates
Got 28% of the vote having that crowded Selection because when you got your ballot, they were all on there.
I forgot about Missy Hughes.
I'm like, hey Missy ain't seeing you in a while.
So are
on the ballot Burnett County
votes Taylor
Other candidates, 354.
Perhaps this will be a valuable lesson to both political parties.
It likely is not in your best interest to have such a crowded primary with candidates who have no realistic path for victory because they will spoil this race for someone.
And I could see if people that voted for Kelda
or people that voted for Mandela or those early supporters of Sarah Rodriguez.
Here's the thing, their political agendas were almost completely and totally identical.
There was no reason.
Well, here's what I thought was going to happen.
I thought that Francesca had more of a direct path to victory because her voters and her supporters are very, very specific.
And her agenda talked about things that sometimes Democrats either don't discuss at all or don't go far enough on.
And there's a very specific constituency that I personally believe that only
that only she could motivate, I was wrong.
The number of progressive voters that found something in Mandela and Sara Rodriguez and in particular Keldor Royce, when I get into the details of how Keldor's supporters and Keldor being in that race actually took the race from Fran.
The way I handicapped it, if Keldor drops out of the race, even if she doesn't endorse, but let's say she drops out of the race and she endorses her state assembly representative, which is Francesca Hong.
Fran wins by 30,000 votes.
But with Kelda staying in and getting better than 50,000 votes, which we know that those votes, the vast majority of them would have gone to Fran.
Let me just break it down a little bit further.
If just 5% of Kelda's voters would have voted for Francesca Hong, David Crowley's lead is a race in that 5%.
If you ask Kelda,
Roy's supporters who their second choice is 34% of them said absolutely is Francesca Hong.
Okay, let's let's assume that's true.
Let's assume that the let's say 60,000 votes that killed a guy.
She drops out of the race.
And then a third of her supporters, so 20,000 people would go to Francesca like that's an accurate prediction.
Francesca wins by 17,000 votes give or take.
That really is where this race was lost.
Progressives had far more candidates to choose from than did moderates and centrists, which is represented by the establishment wing of the Democratic Party in Tony Evers and in David Crowley.
Now, this does not mean that the establishment is the clear winner.
It means that there is some serious leftward movement of the Democratic voter coalition in the state of Wisconsin, at least in the primary.
I don't know what these general election voters are going to do because there's a very large contingent of people better than 50 or 60% of the eligible and or registered voters.
They did not vote at all last night.
They didn't.
Now, the question is, what do those voters want to see?
Do they want to continue, you know, David Crowley's pathway?
Or do they want to embrace something from what Mandela offered?
Not Joe Brennan because we shout out to Joe Brennan.
Hold on.
Joe Brennan.
Ended up getting just under 5% of the vote so I can't call him milk anymore because he got better than 2% He didn't need to be in the race at all and I what did I make a stupid?
prediction with him that was Well, we're all stupid a little bit.
Thank you.
Marquette University Law School poll Made a wonderful mess out of things had us thinking stuff that wasn't true, but it wasn't just them.
It was even internal polling
From the Crowley campaign, it just wasn't wasn't looking good for David at all.
And that is why, you know, a lot of us were disappointed by that quote unquote debate, because finally we could see a little bit more of the candidates personalities.
I wanted to see them challenge each other.
I wanted them to shoot down each other's ideas, but that didn't happen.
But I think ultimately.
That debate shouldn't even call it that a candidate form is really what it was.
I mean, it was what it was, right?
It did what it needed to do.
It just.
put all the candidates on stage and allow them to agree with one another.
So at least on the issues, most of those folks who are running for governor are not too far apart.
And we just hope that that's going to be enough for general election voters who are going to have their say in about 84 days.
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Voting results are now in after, quote, human error, caused a delay in Milwaukee Tuesday night into early Wednesday morning.
In an update in the early morning hours Wednesday, Milwaukee County Clerk George Christensen announced the voting results put David Crowley at a total of 65,131 votes.
coming to forty three point zero four percent.
Francesca Hong finished with sixty two thousand seven hundred thirty nine votes coming to forty one point forty six.
When asked about the error that occurred Tuesday night, Christianson said and I quote.
Oh, Georgie.
Well, that happens, you know, no.
Come on, George, you gotta get your head out of your bottom.
Well, that happens, you know, the city of Milwaukee is under a lot of scrutiny always and essentially human error happens.
And I think we should all just take note that these things happen, you know.
And at the end of the day, what's important is that we're transparent, that the results are secure and that we're open and honest.
and that's what the city of Milwaukee elections director did.
She came up here and she explained it, went back, got the results, brought them back to us, and we got everything right.
And that's what's most important.
Now, that's the statement from the Milwaukee County clerk who oversees elections in the county.
If I'm Francesca Hong's campaign, I want that whole thing investigated.
Dude said, well, you know that happens.
Here's what really took place.
A flash drive was, I don't know, misplaced.
Somebody didn't push a button.
Somebody didn't transfer the votes over.
15,000 votes, mostly going to David Crowley from the second and the ninth automatic districts were discovered, giving David Crowley essentially his margin in the county.
Doesn't that sound odd?
And so here's the thing.
I'm not assuming that there's anything malicious because I know human beings.
I know them very well.
Human beings will do something dumb and stupid before they'll do something mean, nasty and malicious.
People make mistakes all the time.
Make stupid mistakes.
I make stupid mistakes.
One of the biggest stupid mistake I make, keep going back to the same damn ex-girlfriend.
Can't help it.
Stupid mistake.
Keep doing it.
Is that real?
Mm-hmm.
Oh, jeez.
There's plenty of other women
Oh yeah.
You know that you know the the River West woman was a lot smarter than me.
No, no, no, no, no.
That's the that's the one that's the tatted one.
They'll have dirty feet.
Oh, no, she had clean feet.
Very Oh, yes, you know, I know Clean feet your foot guy like feet.
I like a nice Well-kept foot with you know, nice painted toe nails and yeah, I do like
don't want some corns and stuff like that.
dead skin
They're trying to normalize women hair
little hair wouldn't hurt you you know
it does
I don't know this is a
matter of personal preference and here's the thing there's gonna be somebody out there oh my god Sherwin you're such a big most of the women shave most women don't even like being hairy because I just assume that when a woman doesn't shave I'm just gonna say legs and armpits that she approaches me to shake my hand hey I'm I'm Stacy nice to meet you
You want to go grab a beer as she pulls out a pack of Newport Kings, which is perfectly fine.
It's just that's not my thing, but also I Don't want to be seen as a person That objectifies women for their bodies.
Yeah,
her as a human being.
Yes, respect all body types.
it's still in
me every so often It must be jammed cuz jelly don't shake like that sometimes when I see you know I'm saying a woman that has got the curves Oh, yeah, and she got that jiggle like she still is moving even after she stops walking.
You know I'm talking about
I just I can't help it.
It's just something as a man.
Something happens.
And that's why I just can't understand.
Yeah, voluptuous.
I can't understand the gaze.
Like why you would see a
man are disgusting.
We are.
We're not.
Well, a gay might see you coming.
Oh, my God.
Oh, the gays love.
Yeah.
Oh, that beard.
He's has the bald head.
They love me very much.
Yes.
caught.
Oh, you wouldn't accept a drink from a friendly gay person that bought you one at a bar?
Yeah, you
Oh look who's calling Quote well that happens, you know the city of Milwaukee is just under a lot of scrutiny always and essentially human error happens This is what George Christianson said.
He is the Milwaukee County clerk who oversees
elections and election results in Milwaukee County.
Look, I get it.
I know that the city of Milwaukee is under scrutiny and unnecessary scrutiny from the Trump administration that believes that we cast a whole bunch of fake votes and we let a bunch of illegal people vote.
So if you know that we're under that kind of scrutiny, like I wonder how do they, do they pressure test our election system to account for things like this?
Because moving forward, and here's the thing, it is to the benefit of every single person in the city of Milwaukee that we can have trust.
In our elections and that the system in the process has integrity because there can't even be any doubt there can't even be even the slightest Appearance of some kind of impropriety because we are under an incredible kind of microscope That calls into question our election results because this is just an old weird stereotype that when Democrats win is because
Illegal people are voting or non-citizens are voting or people are voting twice Which we know is not true and I can tell you I got first-hand experience especially when it comes to the African-American community It's hard as hell to get us to vote once let alone get us to vote twice And so we are We are treated unfairly in that regard when there are high vote totals in the city of Milwaukee, which we know is a democratic stronghold
There's always going to be some skepticism.
And so that is even more reason to make sure that these kinds of errors don't happen.
Because every now and again, ladies and gentlemen, we will get elections that are very, very close to where everybody can raise an eyebrow.
And because these systems do involve human beings and human beings can make errors, we've got to figure out a better way.
And I'm willing and open and available to help however I can.
to make sure that our elections have integrity and that people aren't making these silly and stupid mistakes because at some point it may cost somebody a very close election.
If I'm the Francesca Hall campaign and I read or see the statement made by George Christensen, the Milwaukee County Clerk, I would want a little bit more transparency because the number of votes that David Crowley won by statewide
could be some kind of a clerical error in any one of 72 counties and 1850 different municipalities.
That's a lot of different cities.
That's a whole bunch of different counties.
And that's a whole bunch of people that might have been drunk, high, tired, uninterested or just otherwise not careful.
Let's talk to Al.
You're on one on one seven the truth.
How are you?
I'm
doing fine and congratulations to Mr. Crowley.
I heard you bring up, you know, that white people want to be pro-white.
I think that's wonderful.
But my question is, why is it every time you come to y'all being pro-white or being pro anything, y'all always want to put black people in your business?
Black people are not even effing with y'all like that.
And I just think it's a disease and trauma that y'all have got from your household and your upbringing.
Black people have not lived and have hung.
Black people have not went out their way or took time out their day to hang you from a tree, record raping your children and making videos and bragging about it.
That is your white ass, Ken, folks.
We have not done anything to you, but you keep putting us in your business.
Why you don't go take that up with your mammy and your grandpappy?
It is not black people fault that some of your white king folks don't feel comfortable with their white children around your goddamn daddy.
So if you are so pro-white, be pro-white, but why you gotta put us in your business?
We don't even ask what you like that.
And all your anger, hate, and trauma comes from your goddamn household.
But if you're just that mad,
And that miserable why not put a double bear shotgun in a roof of your mouth and pull the trigger and blow your goddamn brains out?
And you can be all pro-white in peace.
I'm just trying to understand why you keep putting this in your business.
And Al from Sherman Park, I like how you try to pull that trick car on that race car you try to pull.
That's not gonna work with me, boo boo, because I don't praise nobody who look like Burke Reynolds, okay?
So you can take that.
to Lakot when they're doing Tina in the bathroom.
So don't try that with me.
But my question is, why is it when it comes to being pro-white, you keep putting black people in your business?
Why y'all don't do that with the Jews?
They're not even real white and they want to be white.
Black people ain't walking around here wanting to be white.
Yeah, we got a couple of cool ass niggas that want to be like you, but that's not us.
So I'm going to hang up and listen.
Why do you keep putting us?
in your business when we never wanted to be in your business.
I think that's kind of sick.
Love yourself a great day.
Bye-bye.
I don't know.
I can't speak for them, but it seems if a black person becomes successful and a white person doesn't share,
That same level of success maybe just maybe the white person is wondering well It must have been affirmative action or it must have been some kind of a minority quota because how on earth because I think the white culture knows full-on well What it has done structurally and institutionally to marginalize black success They don't like when we drive nice cars and live in big houses.
They don't like it.
They're okay if we have stuff
But just have less than us I Think might be some of the prevailing wisdom and also maybe I'm blowing this whole thing out of proportion Maybe white people aren't racist at all.
Maybe they love us so very much.
They love us a
lot
You gotta limit how much time you spend thinking about stuff like that cuz it'll mess your brains up There's a different kind of racism that exists in the north that I've become familiar with obviously because I'm from here, but I can contrast it with
The racism that exists in the South In the South I'm talking the former Confederacy.
I'm talking about those deep red states and no matter what Donald Trump is doing He's always gonna have better than a 50% approval rating.
I'm talking about that kind of South Black and white culture in the South is very very similar.
You don't have the same kind of segregation What'll happen is you'll have a poor part of town and you'll have a wealthier part of town and there will be black people and white people live right next door to each other in both segments
of that town, the poor part and the rich part.
And culturally, very similar.
They eat the same foods a lot of times.
It's just that I think in the south, they don't really want black people to have anything.
Just nothing, no kind of success.
But also at the same time, they know that they're powerless to prevent it.
In the north, I think that they're okay with black people being successful, but be successful over there.
Go away or go go stay in your own neighborhood and be successful.
Don't come out here with all that don't come out to River Hills Don't come out to Menominee Falls.
Don't come out to Waukesha Stay on the north side.
Oh, you can have success on the north side.
We just don't want to see it We don't want it near near us.
I think is the difference in Midwestern racism Currently we do not know
Full percentage of voter turnout yet because there are still some marginal amounts of ballots that need to be counted My prediction is we're probably somewhere at 27 to 29% if I had to guess Lady B says I Don't even know why I'm gonna read this First of all, I'm gonna fully disclose to all of you that I don't know this lady from Adam
Or maybe I should say I don't know her from Eve.
I don't know who this lady isn't and she's a frequent listener of the program this and on my YouTube channel Hughes views 414 Oh, and if you haven't subscribed to that go ahead and do it But she says sure when it's so toxic lol and then her next thing she types is That's why I don't want a relationship with him woman.
I don't know you
I mean, you don't want a relationship with me.
I don't want one with you.
Well, it depends what you're talking about, though.
What are you trying to do?
I should know better.
Don't involve yourself with listeners.
What is this?
Professor Hughes, there's plenty of baldy locks out there.
What's baldy locks?
Don't take the cornbread professor Hughes.
What are you talking about?
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Paulina Gutierrez, the executive director of the Milwaukee Election Commission, said audit logs from five machines were downloaded instead of the actual results.
Gutierrez said the issue was caused by, quote, human error.
Now.
Workers need to return those machines and make sure the results are downloaded properly Gutierrez said approximately 15,000 ballots are yet to be counted wait a minute That was at 12 13 a.m.
Okay, so they've been counted already Okay Published at 4 p.m.
August 11th, so yesterday afternoon while the polls were open
Workers at Milwaukee Central Count worked to tally thousands of absentee ballots on Tuesday in Wisconsin's partisan primary election.
Tallying began early and the Milwaukee Election Commission says it was a busy but smooth day overall.
Workers downloaded votes onto a flash drive that was taken to the Milwaukee County Courthouse to be securely uploaded.
100 workers were there on site all day counting more than 26,000 absentee ballots that were returned.
Paulina Gutierrez, the executive director of the Milwaukee Election Commission, says there was low turnout on Tuesday, especially in comparison to the August 2022 primary for governor.
Across the board, we are seeing pretty low turnout in this election.
Gutierrez said I was looking at August 2022 election.
That was about 26%.
That total was 73,000 ballots.
They also implemented a new system with bins so that once a ballot was counted,
It did not move again.
Let's talk to Diana.
You're on one on one seven.
The truth.
How are you?
Good morning, Sherwin.
I'm doing great.
Thank you.
I'm just calling on behalf of the voters that they, you know, were repeatedly saying that we're undecided for the polls.
And I was intentionally undecided because the campaign was so unstable.
You know, people dropping out, you know, it just was unstable.
And I wanted to make sure that by the time I voted, I was going to vote for somebody that was going to stay in the campaign.
And I knew that they would be there and know where they are in the polls.
And also, I liked a lot.
I liked a couple of the candidates.
I liked Joe Brennan.
I was confident in him that he could do a good job.
I felt like he worked very closely with Evers.
And so he knows the process.
and I'm sure that he would adopt some of Evers' processes.
And so I felt good about him, except that no one knew him.
You know, he was well-known in maybe the city circle, but as far as voters, he had a real, very poor campaign, and he just didn't put himself out there.
So people didn't know who he was.
And so I think that's what really hurt him.
As far as Kel Delroy, if I like her, I thought she had some good ideas, but she focused a lot on kids.
And so, you know, but being a lawyer, she was, you know, she works with the good, the bad, the ugly.
She's seen it all.
She's worked with all kinds of people.
So I felt good about that.
However, again, she was not very well known and she ran a real very poor campaign and people didn't know her and didn't know what she was about.
And so.
But I feel like when she knew that she couldn't win, she should have dropped out so that giving those voters over to Hong or Crowley, because I think that the votes that she took on, we lost that.
And then along with the people who voted early, and then those people dropped out.
What I didn't want to do was vote for Mandela Barnes or Crowley.
But getting back to that, Francesca Hong.
I did like her.
I liked her a lot.
I liked her ideas.
However, I did not see them really happening.
I didn't see, you know, that's a new fight.
A lot of things that she was looking for, Amy for, were new fights.
And we are now in a climate where we're trying to stabilize our economy.
We're trying to get people back on track, people lost jobs, people lost health insurance.
We need to stay back on track with what we know we can work with.
and not start new fights with ice and new fights with vouchers and whatnot.
But I did like her ideas.
I wish her the best.
Between her and Crawley, I didn't really care who won.
But the reason why I didn't want Crawley or Mandel Barnes is because they've been in the game too long to not have enough successes.
You know, they they've been working out here for a long time.
They're well known and so like where where's the progress and So I was really afraid that we're gonna have a same old, you know same as usual But um, so I hope quality can you know, I hope he steps up this time
He does he does So I hope I hope I hope I've done the right thing
Go
Thank you Diana for your very articulate take on being an undecided voter Okay, well, thank you.
That's great.
Thanks.
You too, Diana That was complicated.
She was all over the place at least she could Clearly articulate her thinking as to why she liked Francesca said some positive things about Kelda
Kelda had a lackluster campaign thought that Joel Brennan could have been potentially good as governor, but he never really got off the ground either fascinating stuff The Madison area counties where Roy's candidacy potentially mattered most So as we are doing autopsy on what happened and it's good to know what happened moving forward Where the Crowley campaign is gonna have to move and gonna have to pivot and going to have to embrace at least some of the ideas that move voters toward either
Francesca Hong or Keldor Royce.
Thank Keldor for staying in the race because Keldor Royce supporters, their second choice was Francesca.
And if just five in 100, just 5% of Keldor supporters would have voted for Francesca even though we know a third of them would have, that would have erased David Crowley's entire lead.
So her staying in the race did tremendous benefit to strengthen David Crowley's vote totals.
Look particularly at Dane County and surrounding South Central Wisconsin counties Roy's political identity was strongly associated with Madison and she was explicitly competing in the same progressive space that Hong occupied Wisconsin Public Radio's pre-election reporting described precisely this problem quote Roy's was progressive but Hong occupied the most progressive lane in their home cities
If Roy's accumulated several thousand votes across Dane County and neighboring counties that otherwise might have gone to Hong, those voters became highly consequential when the statewide margin is only 3,200 votes.
La Crosse and Western Wisconsin, this is another area worth examining because Hong's campaign needed to demonstrate that her progressive appeal extended beyond Madison.
Crowley was campaigning as a candidate who could appeal across the state rather than simply to the Democratic base in Madison and Milwaukee.
His campaign explicitly emphasized statewide electability against Republican Tom Tiffany.
The question for Hong wasn't simply, can I win in Madison?
It was, can I win enough Madison type voters outside of Madison to compensate for Milwaukee?
Ultimately, she did not.
Brown and out of gamey counties and the Fox Valley This is another important test of whether Hong could translate her progressive support into votes outside of Madison and Milwaukee the Associated Press identified Brown and out of gamey counties as Democratic vote centers in northeastern Wisconsin for Hong these counties represented the broader question could she build a statewide progressive coalition or Was her support concentrated in Madison?
and other democratic strongholds.
That distinction became extremely important.
So we're going to take a break, come back, we'll talk to Milisand on the other side and get her take on things.
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Your finances low people you need money How much money I'm always curious to how much money people make Let me ask this question Y'all quit arguing in there y'all are arguing I got a question Hey talking to y'all Turn is knit nitties in there too, right?
I Got a question for both y'all how much money y'all make
Interesting,
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just in general No, what's okay just like I need a number for what is fully funding public schools I want how much you may need how much your residuals from bow you begin checks you begin royalties build our Wisconsin Is it go platinum All right, okay radio hosting a little cousin, that's fine
Let's talk to Millison.
Hey Millison, how much money do you make?
I don't make no money.
I'm Paul.
I'm in social security.
I'm in a fixed income.
don't have that one.
I got the silver.
Not the 506.
So
I'm glad, I was hoping for all of you men, that's what I was hoping for.
But what I don't want is for us now to get into this behavior of what is she gonna do for us?
What is she gonna do for black people?
How's she gonna make black people better?
If you get into that,
Tom Tiffany is going to show you what's not going to make you better.
So you better just rally around him and vote.
Because if Tom Tiffany gets in there, oh, it's going to be another different kind of horse that we be riding.
So I don't want it just to be like, oh, he's going to get in office.
What are you going to do?
He's going to give us this.
Regardless of what he wants for you, he's going to do better for you than what Tom Tiffany would.
And I think that's where we're at at this point.
Bye bye.
I have found that people who reduce their political understanding to what is he or she going to do for me?
What am I going to get?
What immediate gratification am I going to receive?
What short-term benefit is going to be put into my hand?
Are people that probably do not vote because they do not have an understanding of how the system actually works?
The only thing that we can do is help shape and create a favorable climate and environment where people can maximize their full potential.
So it is not just fully funding education, whatever that means, but it's lowering prices, lowering costs, making it easier to get into entrepreneurship and lowering and reducing any kind of institutional barriers to people's success, creating a climate that is favorable for more jobs and employers to want to come here, et cetera, et cetera.
So if there are barriers, regardless of your community or your zip code,
to your success and right now one of the biggest barriers that we see is a lackluster education program because that goes to the heart of the kind of workforce that we want and we need in Wisconsin.
If we do not have educated people here then the jobs may come, the companies may come, they're going to hire, but they're going to have to hire people who are from somewhere else and that's problematic.
So one of those core issues is, or one of those questions that you may ask or answer, what is the candidate going to do for me?
Ask how they support education, whether it be K-12, whether it be early childhood education, or even maybe subsidizing to a higher degree if you want to go to trade and tech school, which I believe should be completely and totally free.
And even reducing the cost of...
attending a university, because contrary to popular belief, all of the occupations that we need filled with the baby boomer generation removing themselves from the workforce can't just be filled by being a barber or an esthetician.
We are going to actually need people with master's degrees and PhDs and bachelor of science degrees and bachelor of arts degrees.
They're still a necessary part of our society that needs those kinds of degrees.
Now, it's very expensive.
But the best investment a human being can ever make ever and it's not real estate and the stocks and the bonds and the derivatives and and the options and that's not the best investment.
You can really the best investment you can make is on call.
She betting that David Crowley would win the race.
I know somebody that did that and they're stupid rich.
They came in here smelling like money.
You know how people attitude change when they get money.
They look at you funny.
They look down their nose at you.
I know what that feeling is.
A lot of people look at me like I'm short.
Like, I got money too.
I got a little, I can go out to eat.
I can take a woman on a date.
I got a little money, but I ain't got as much money as some of y'all.
I know somebody came in here today.
They won big money last night.
They came in and they was like, what you looking at?
Who was you?
Do I know you?
Excuse me.
Open this door for me.
Who are you?
Are you the help?
Who are you?
I'm rich.
That's what the person said.
They said it to me.
Sherwin who?
Sherman.
Is that your name?
I don't know you.
I was like, nitty, it's me.
Who?
Security.
And then nitty security.
Nitty got rich.
He didn't tell me how much money he made.
You don't need this little radio gig, Needy.
You don't need this.
This is just something that you just do for fun.
Just be coming here, just be chilling.
You on for a long time today.
He said he does need it.
No, he don't need this.
Needy just, he got so much money.
He was like, I think I'll run for office.
Needy ran against Bob Baumann.
I was right there with him.
I was like, come on, Needy, let's get it.
He cracked me up yesterday.
Needy was like, I would have won my race if it wasn't raining on election day.
I was like word.
I was like, come on, dog.
You know, black people don't be.
What was I not supposed to say that?
It's true.
People was like, I want to vote for Nitty, but I just got my hair done.
He'll win.
He'll he gonna be.
I love him.
Black folks say they don't need my vote.
They gonna be.
I know that's when the blacks lose.
Quote.
Kelder Roy's didn't have to win the election to potentially determine who won it.
Kelder Roy's received approximately 59,000 votes, Crowley won by approximately 3,200.
So, only about one out of every 18 Kelder Roy's voters would have had to have chose Hong instead for the outcome to change.
We have polling evidence that says Keldoroy's voters actually lean toward Hong as their second choice.
34% Hong versus 29% for Crowley.
That's why saying Keldoroy's may have been the difference is mathematically accurate.
But we cannot say that Roy's definitely lost or cost Hong the election.
There is no
counterfactual ballot.
Some Roy's voters would have voted Crowley, some would have voted Brennan, some may have voted for one of the other candidates who had withdrawn, some may not have voted at all.
So the intellectually honest conclusion is, you ready for this?
Roy's didn't necessarily cost Hong the election, but she absolutely received enough votes to have changed the election and the available polling suggests that her voters lean more toward Hong than Crowley.
With a statewide margin of only about 3,200 votes, that makes Roy's one of the most important unanswered questions of the entire election.
Francesca Hong didn't lose because she had no constituency.
She received essentially 40% of the Democratic vote.
She lost because she couldn't consolidate the progressive vote enough to overcome Crowley's establishment coalition.
So there you go.
Ladies and gentlemen.
So she's essentially the white Mandela Barnes.
hmm.
Yeah She is
just gets in the way messing things up for others
Yeah, they saw what What probably should have happened was but Kelda has she's very confident and it probably borders on On arrogance and also Kelda is the senator.
She is higher ranking than Francesca
And sometimes pride gets in the way and it can blind you, especially if you're really super ambitious.
Kelda, who is the lawyer, who is the senator, who has been around Wisconsin politics since Francesca was probably 10 years old, was not going to bow out of a race and endorse and support her subordinate, even though that would have better solidified the progressive coalition.
It would have.
And imagine, in the perfect world, what happens is this?
Francesca says, hey, Kelda, I'm going to win.
I'm going to solve the progressive coalition.
You drop out of the race.
You endorse me.
And then I will give you a position in the state government.
I'll make you a secretary of transportation or Department of Administration.
I don't know that Kelda would accept a position in a gubernatorial administration from her subordinate.
There's a pride thing.
And Kelda stayed in the race.
Kelda polled.
Very, very low.
If anything, the Marquette University Law School poll, which needs to be completely discredited.
I don't ever want to see another Marquette poll ever again.
First of all, screw Marquette.
I went to UW Milwaukee.
We'll kick Marquette's ass.
We'll fight you.
Bunch of private school kids.
Talk about I went to Marquette.
Give me your lunch money, ho.
No, Sherwin.
Marquette kids will be having $35,000 in cash for lunch.
Yeah,
We had to fight each other for food.
We were like rabbit dogs We used to rob and steal at UW Milwaukee, but we're highly educated just want to let you know We're the streets smart university.
You know what I mean?
Market University got one thing right.
Hilda was in single-digit and she remained I think she ended up getting on about 4% of the boat
But that 4% was very crucial.
But she should have dropped out of the race.
And Doris Francesca had momentum that Kelda could never get.
Kelda's never been able to get that kind of momentum.
Remember, she ran for governor in 2018 and finished in the exact same damn place, single digits.
She also ran for Congress against Mark Polkane, and Mark Polkane is a homosexual gay fellow, right?
So when Kelda was running against Mark Polkane in that primary, Kelda all of a sudden became bisexual.
Oh, I'm a member of the LGBTQ community.
We was like, Kelda, chill.
Girl, you married and got five kids.
Ain't no man, no lesbian about you.
Mark Pokehens, though, gee.
Kelda kissed a girl if she liked it.
She's like, I'm
a lesbian.
I'm going to get the gay vote.
I wonder will the Francesca people rebel against her now?
Will she be, you know, bad, you know, no good, no more in Madison?
Yes.
Oh,
well.
Let's make her a pariah now in Madison.
That's not my thing I got a whole city Milwaukee worry about Madison is gonna do what Madison does.
I ain't got nothing to do with me Madison is weird
I go there when I have to but it's never like on top of my list of places to go because I'm so familiar with that place and Like the social climate of Madison.
I don't like it.
It's a fake veneer of progressivism and liberalism It is shrouded in the most intense kind of racism you have absolutely ever seen is that that white liberal kind of racism like oh, I know better than you niggers too.
Well, no, we know no, I don't mean it that way like that's
That's the Madison liberal.
No, no, I love niggers.
No, my God.
I love you guys so much.
You guys dance so good.
But here, policy-wise here, I'm going to write the script for you and then you guys just do what we say because we're Madison.
Yuck.
No thanks.
And they don't even think there's anything wrong with that attitude.
And they'll be like, well, look at you niggers.
I mean, no, no, look at how you live.
Come live like us.
We'll help you.
Just vote for our political agenda so we can keep our lead over you.
No thanks.
So I don't get involved in it.
Okay, I'm gonna take a break, come back.
I guess we'll do a Hughes Views 414 show tonight.
Called to kill the Barnes.
We did some big numbers last night.
We did some
sexy
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I'm not watching anybody's pocket.
I'm just curious as to how much money people make.
I know the younger generations, they oftentimes share salary information and you know what they have done?
They have eliminated or certainly dramatically reduced pay disparities because when people share how much their salaries are in the same job.
Employers sometimes have a lot of explaining to do.
I know it was common amongst some of my younger colleagues.
They was real open and honest about how much money they made.
I'll be doing that because people will judge you.
I mean, I wouldn't judge anybody if they told me how much money they made.
In fact, the wealthier you are, contrary to popular belief, you're more likely to be a damn democratic socialist.
It's the most unusual phenomenon ever.
When the Democratic Socialists of America did their own internal survey of their members, and they released this information, Democratic Socialists are 85% white.
The Republican Party is 79% white, so Democratic Socialists are actually whiter.
Only 4% of Democratic Socialists work in
blue collar labor type of jobs 96% of them absolutely do not 35% of democratic socialists have at least at least at least a Master's degree or higher a third of them Have master's degrees or higher and another third of them Make better than $100,000 a year.
These are not
poor people that even need Medicare for all.
In fact, I think that their lives are already so on paper complete.
They're high levels of education.
They're higher levels of income.
They might as well ask for more.
They might as well ask for free health insurance.
They might as well ask for reduced college tuition.
They might as well.
That's such an interesting phenomenon, but also
In the grand scheme of things, ladies and gentlemen, I think the last night's election results will prove this accurate.
The African-American vote that is still largely democratic does not do or agree with or even believe the principles of democratic socialism.
And why is that?
It is a Western European modality in majority white countries where majority white people use their money and their taxes to take care of one another, whether it be Bernie Sanders or whether it be Francesca Hong.
They don't have the understanding because their party and their affiliation of being a democratic socialist is conversations that take place amongst white people without including the very specific sentiments of the black community where race is going to play a factor even if.
If you have Medicare for all or Badger care for all, they're still going to find a way to disqualify a large number of African Americans.
It is a European economic and political modality, and I don't know about you, but I don't need any other kind of European influence tainting the lives of non-European people.
Go back to Europe if you want.
Ain't nobody stopping you from going to Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland.
You're welcome to go there.
They got plenty of room, and you can go skiing on snow or cocaine.
Not my problem.
Congratulations to Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley.
Now the real fight begins against the election-denying ultra-conservative MAGA Acolyte Tom Tiffany, who did win his primary last night.
And he is the Republican nominee for governor in the state of Wisconsin.
So let's saddle up.
Roll out.
Thank you for listening.
The lunch break is up next.
of the truth with Sherwin Hughes.
We are analyzing and deciphering and trying to sort through what the hell happened.
Congratulations to Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley.
He is the Democratic nominee for governor in the state of Wisconsin.
The contest against Republican Tom Tiffany is slated for November 3rd.
There's about 84 days between now and that contest.
Kelder Roy's may have been the difference.
The Wisconsin Democratic gubernatorial primary ended with an extraordinarily narrow result.
David Crowley defeated Francesca Hong by about only 3,200 votes, while Kelder Roy's received roughly 59,000 votes statewide.
So I'm going to go through the detail that will thoroughly explain in a very convincing manner.
that Kelda staying in this race did the most damage to a single candidate, and that was Francesca Hong.
Kelda received 59,000 votes statewide, Crowley finished at about 39.8%, Hong at 39.4%, and Kelda Roy's at about 7.5%.
This creates a very simple question.
If Keldor Royce had not been on the ballot, where would those 59,000 voters have gone?
Now, we cannot know for certain, but there are several reasons to take the quote, Royce was the spoiler argument.
So I'm bringing this up because I hope that some really talented, really smart journalists, whether locally, statewide or nationally, picks this story up because it is fascinating once I delved into the numbers.
Didn't get a lot of sleep last night.
I was up late because the city Milwaukee had a bad flash drive guy I'm sleepy and I wake up and I got all these text messages when I went to bed I didn't know who won the damn race But then I saw the unread text messages that I had I was like, oh I've been looking at numbers all morning So I'm going a little crazy because I've been looking at numbers.
I've been doing the mathematics
Case in point why our children need educational options and need to be on grade level in math because if our children that go to Milwaukee public schools are not on grade level in math and 90% of them are not they're not gonna be able to decipher a goddamn election I gotta be I need to have a political science degree in mathematicians and Mathematicals and statistics statistics statisticians I gotta be an actuarial scientist
Roy's had 20 times the votes necessary to change the result.
Crowley beat Hong by approximately 3,200 votes.
Roy's received approximately 59,000 votes.
Hong therefore needed only 5% of Keldor Roy's voters to switch to a race Crowley statewide lead.
So 5% of Keldor's voters, and if you ask Keldor supporters who their number two choice is,
It's Francesca.
Remember, they represent the exact same area.
Kelda is the senator in the area in Madison, where Francesca is the assembly representative, meaning Francesca's assembly district sits inside of Kelda's Senate district.
It's literally the same voters, but also I want to give you the vote totals at the countywide level from Dane County.
David Crowley was exceptionally competitive.
He was more competitive in Dane County.
He should have gotten completely evaporated in Dane County.
Like it should have been somewhere's around 65, 35, or at least 60, 40.
Francesca Hong only got 44% of the Dane County vote.
David Crowley got 36%, but here's the important part.
Other candidates that were on the ballot
got 19.3%.
Let's assume that those other candidates decided they were going to drop out of the race, or in the case of Mandela Barnes, let's say they never got in in the first place.
It is realistic to believe that that 20% of Dane County voters that voted for other candidates would have gone to Francesca, and there's her 60-40 margin that she would have needed to win.
So she had so many more pathways to victory.
But they closed because of all of the other candidates that were on the ballot.
And so I had said some time ago when we had 33, 34% of undecided voters, they were looking for a reason to support someone other than Francesca.
I think that that part is actually accurate.
If there was anything that was correct about the polling that we saw, the number of undecided voters.
Because if you're a Francesca Hong supporter, and you probably still are today, you were never undecided.
You weren't thinking, hmm.
Franny or Joel Brennan that probably never came into their minds.
They were going to support her Period hands down point blank regardless of who else was was in the race Milwaukee County Francesca Hong was more competitive in Milwaukee County than she should have been right she did better in Milwaukee County, which is a big no-no And this is what a lot of us were noticing
We didn't really see any momentum.
We didn't really see any excitement here in Milwaukee County.
And maybe there was an assumption made on behalf of the Crowley campaign, because there is a coalition of people that live and vote in Milwaukee County, particularly in the city.
On my Twitter, I posted a heat map.
The votes and the strength of the vote for David Crowley mimics the segregation of the city of Milwaukee.
And as you move away from the north side and into suburban communities, you see David Crowley's vote share get lighter and lighter because the map is color coded.
And then once you get to some north shore suburbs and some more liberal parts of the city of Milwaukee, keep in mind the east side of the city of Milwaukee, the third automatic district is represented by Alex Brower.
Alex Brower is a democratic socialist.
So you can literally have the third automatic district.
That is represented by Alex Brower a democratic socialist were Francesca honk cleaned up and that's a city of Milwaukee district with a very very high Boater turnout percentage in fact the third Alderman district is the most educated and the most wealthy demographic Aldermanic district in the city of Milwaukee But that is par for the course because when the DSA of America did a demographic survey of their actual members
It's something like 30% of Democratic socialists have a master's degree or higher, and another 30% make over $100,000 a year.
So I think there might be some misconception that, oh, Democratic socialists are these poor working class white folks who are all making minimum wage.
It is actually quite the opposite.
So I'm not shocked that the wider and the higher the education level and the higher the income of the voter.
the more likely they were to vote for Francesca Hong, which also explains why Alex Brower, a democratic socialist, got elected to represent the most educated and the most wealthy aldermanic district in the city of Milwaukee.
Francesca Hong got within two points of David Crowley, a point and a half of David Crowley in Milwaukee County.
David Crowley got 43% of the vote in the county in which he was elected countywide twice.
Francesca Hong got 41.5%.
So her doing that rally in South Milwaukee, beautiful, beautiful political science.
Her texting me and saying, Sherwin, I'm doing doors in your neighborhood in a Francesca Hong yard sign being right across the street from my yard.
That's very significant because I live in David Crowley's former assembly district.
She campaigned.
in his backyard and actually performed well.
She was on her way to winning this race, but Kelda spoiled it.
Let's talk to a very disappointed Francesca Hong supporter.
Hello, Dionne, how are you this morning?
What's going on, sir?
How are you doing?
You know what?
I feel like, man, this is me myself.
I don't understand how David dropped out of the relation.
I just feel like it's more behind it than just that.
It doesn't sit well with me though.
You feel what I'm saying?
Don't get me wrong.
I wasn't a franny panty like you call her.
You know what I'm saying?
Not franny panty,
panty.
Oh, franny panty.
Okay, I was like gun hold four.
Oh my God, you know what I'm saying?
Like I said, like I told you, when I called you on your personal phone, you know, I said, I wasn't familiar with too many other people that voted.
You know, I just wanted to go for her.
You know, I'm saying the reason I felt like David Crowley had a weak election because he dropped out and then came back.
And it's just suspicious to me because I'm just like, if you actually run in a race, a marathon or something, then you stop, then you rest.
And then people are ahead of you.
And all of a sudden you just come back and win.
It's like.
It just don't sit where we're, you know, but you know, it is what it is, though, for, you know, I'm not going to vote for Tom Tiffany, but to be honest with you, and this is truly honest, I don't think that David Cromby is that a man that's, uh, fooling the Tory election.
I think we'll have another wacko up in there, and, you know, we might
as well get an
old Scott Walker back.
At least we know what he's capable of, you know, but, um...
It was it was disappointing though, but you know, I'm gonna hang up a list because I'm about to go pick my food up real quick.
But I snuck out the school real quick and I can't get caught.
So I'm about to go pick my food up, but I just wanted to make that comment.
I can't stand these people.
But y'all just wanted to make that comment.
So I'm gonna hang up a
All right.
Thank you for your call.
Dude is disappointed that he'll vote for Tom Tiffany.
I can already tell.
Roy's had almost 20 times the votes necessary to change the ultimate result.
Crowley beat Hong by approximately 3,200 votes.
Roy's received approximately 59,000 votes.
Hong, therefore, needed only 5% of Kelda Roy's supporters to switch to a race Crowley statewide advantage.
In other words, 95 out of 100 Roy's voters could have stayed with Crowley or gone somewhere else, and Hong still would have won.
if roughly five out of every 100 Roy's voters had moved to her.
The final state navigate poll asked voters who supported each candidate for their second choice.
Among Senator Keldor Roy's supporters, 34% chose Francesca Hong as their second choice.
29% chose David Crowley.
So.
Roy's voters were actually more inclined toward Hong than Crowley when asked their second preference Apply that five-point difference to roughly 59,000 Roy's voters 5% of 59,000 is approximately 2,950 votes Crowley's margin 3,200 that is remarkably close
It doesn't prove that Roy's cost Hong the election, but it does demonstrate that the size and ideological direction of the Kelder Roy's vote were large enough to plausibly determine the winner.
Now let's look at the counties.
Dane County is the biggest piece of evidence for the Roy's Hong overlap.
Dane County is where both Hong and Roy's had their strongest natural constituency.
Both are Madison area legislators.
Roy's political bases in Madison and Hong's strongest ideological and geographic bases also in Madison and Dane County.
Wisconsin Public Radio described Hong as occupying the progressive lane in Roy's home city while noting that Roy's was also competing for the exact same progressive constituents.
Here's the important point.
Hong won Dane County, but not by the kind of margin that she needed.
Early election night data showed.
Hong around 41% in Dane County to Crowley's 38, a much narrower victory than many observers expected.
That matters enormously.
Dane County was supposed to be Hong's firewall.
If you're Francesca Hong, you don't merely need to win Dane County, you need to crush Crowley there.
Why?
Because Crowley has an enormous structural advantage in Milwaukee County.
Milwaukee County is the other half of the equation.
Crowley's home county was always going to be crucial.
He is the Milwaukee County Executive and Milwaukee County is Wisconsin's largest county and one of the most important Democratic vote reservoirs in the state.
The Associated Press specifically identified Milwaukee and Dane as the two counties most likely to be decisive in this primary election, so think of it this way.
Hong needed a huge Dane County margin plus competitive Milwaukee performance.
Crowley needed to maximize Milwaukee plus prevent Hong from running away with Madison and the progressive counties.
And that's essentially what happened.
Crowley managed to prevent Hong from building the enormous Dane County advantage that she needed.
But here's where Kelda becomes the spoiler.
Roy's candidacy wasn't just taking votes from some random parts of the electorate.
She was competing for the exact same votes Francesca Hong needed think of the Democratic electorate as in three big buckets bucket number one Crowley voters moderate Democrats Milwaukee establishment voters voters focused on electability and executive experience Bucket number two Francesca Hong voters progressives Democratic Socialists
younger voters, Madison liberals and voters attracted to Hong's more aggressive economic and social agenda.
Bucket number three, Senator Kelder Roy's voters.
Progressive Democrats, particularly Madison area voters who wanted a liberal candidate but weren't necessarily committed to Hong.
That third bucket is the fascinating one as Roy's and Hong were essentially competing for a portion
of the same progressive electorate and Royce remained in the race all the way to election day.
Imagine two people are trying to win a pie eating contest and there's a third person eating pieces of the same pie.
I like pie.
Hong and Royce were competing for some of the same progressive voters.
Crowley didn't necessarily have to convince every progressive voter to support him.
He simply had to prevent Hong from consolidating the progressive vote.
And because Crowley won by 3,200 votes, while Kelder Roy's received 59,000, the Roy's vote was large enough to potentially have changed the outcome of this election.
We're listening to The Truth with Sherwin Hughes doing a little election recap where an improbable victory took place last night by the narrowest of margins.
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Dane County the strongest evidence of the Hong Roy's Overlap It is the most important county for the spoiler argument that held a Roy staying in the race staying in the race rather Took the advantage away from Francesca Hong Hong and Roy's both had strong Madison area constituencies So they split Dane County which
There probably should have been more emphasis on that while we were all handicapping and editorializing This election, I think there was I'm sure I mentioned it at some point in time how I talked about every possible scenario under the Sun David Crowley He shouldn't have split Milwaukee with anyone But he split it with the most Unlikely candidate he split it with Francesca Hong instead of splitting it with you would think Mandela would have done better
I think Sarah Rodriguez actually got more votes than Mandela did and she dropped out first But Milwaukee was not competitive for even Joel Brennan who's been a known commodity in the downtown business community here in Milwaukee He's born raised here from here His family is here.
He did serve in the Evers administration essentially is Tony Evers top deputy because when you lead the Department of Administration for state government like that's
That's a really heavy hitting position.
It also shows that at least at one point in time, Tony Evers had a tremendous, tremendous amount of confidence in Joel Brennan.
So when I interviewed Joel, I don't know, a couple of weeks ago, and I asked him, was he upset that Governor Evers endorsed David Crowley?
Joel got real, man.
He got white guy, man.
It's like, frick yeah!
Frick yeah, man, Sherwin.
Why did he endorse Crowley?
But Joel wasn't competitive here.
Francesca was I'm gonna go back to those The county level results here because this makes no sense whatsoever that Francesca Hong Was within one and a half percentage points David Crowley got sixty five thousand one hundred thirty one votes in his home county and Francesca Hong got sixty two thousand seven hundred thirty nine He got forty three percent of the vote
She got 41.5 my conventional wisdom would have told me Even considering how insane this race was that David would get at least at least 50% of the voters in Milwaukee County.
He did not 41.5% of Milwaukee County voters went to her but here's something else that's probably significant 15.5% of Milwaukee County voters went to other candidates.
So other candidates got 23,471 votes
Something needs to be said by the number for the number of candidates not only got in the race, but they refused to drop out I think that was a horrible horrible mistake because in 2022 when Mandela ran for the US Senate, we had not quite as crowded a primary To see who the Democratic nominee was going to be to run against Ron Johnson But the field was cleared all those other Democrats all dropped out at the exact same time quite honestly damn they're on the same day
So they could clear the field for Mandela to give him the best shot at beating Ron Johnson because that's how high of a priority that was and Mandela lost that.
So him getting back into this race and especially getting in like two if not three months after David Crowley launched his campaign should be seen as blasphemy.
Now in a conversation that I had last night offline Mandela's political career is done.
I think it's.
It should be anyway.
Like there's no reason for him to want to run statewide.
Like he could run for the school board in Crawford County.
What's that one county where it was only right here?
I'm sorry, Florence County, where David Crowley got 123 votes and Francesca Hong got 122.
But even in Florence County, 75 votes went to
Other candidates in fact in Florence County Keldar Roy's got 9.4 percent Sarah Rodriguez got 5.6 Mandela Barnes got 4.4 and the rest of the field split 4.1 percent That is crazy in Florence County one vote Decided the the direction of that county so Mandela was a run he can go run somewhere like that But as far as running for statewide office, he's finished because he way he made a wonderful mess of things and one of the
Remarks that I had made pretty consistently through this whole election cycle is we've been in this mess because of Mandela Barnes And I know some of y'all like him very much and he think he's a great guy.
I'm not taking anything away from him personally I mean he did have a situation with the hose Right here.
Yeah, he had holes Some of his holes, you know, but he's a single man single man got holes but apparently Even when you're running as a liberal
The most progressive political party that we have or at least the most progressive of the two major parties you would think that people will be okay with you having holes But Mandela I guess he had a few too many holes.
Maybe there's a whole threshold.
Maybe you can't maybe you have three holes But four holes.
Oh, no,
not four holes
There's a whole bunch of other things that Mandela can do
It's been proven that he has been a spoiler in ways that have not put the Democrats in an advantage position, losing to Ron Johnson, leaving his position as Lieutenant Governor to even challenge Ron Johnson in the first place.
All Mandela had to do was not even take the risk.
and run for Senate, and he would have remained Lieutenant Governor, I firmly believe the Mandela would have been reelected as Lieutenant Governor, then guess what?
Tony Eris in 2025 says, hey, I'm not running again, and then boom, Mandela is the heir apparent.
There's not even gonna be a Democratic primary.
When you have an heir apparent, a two-term Lieutenant Governor.
is just assume that the entire establishment, the entire apparatus would then put their support behind Mandela Barnes because think about what you have.
You have someone who had been elected and reelected statewide twice.
That is the kind of advantage.
That is the name identification that you need to challenge any Republican that you might be facing.
But he mortgaged his future on a gamble that did not pay off.
Now, the biggest...
I guess asterisk and all of that.
So Mandela steps down from being lieutenant governor.
He doesn't run for reelection, runs for Senate and loses.
That's when we get Sara Rodriguez.
And one of the things that will be noted in the history of this election, because this was going to be talked about for a very, very long time, is that we wouldn't even have gotten Sara Rodriguez as lieutenant governor had Mandela just run for reelection to lieutenant governor and not run for the U.S.
Senate.
And Sarah Rodriguez's impact in this campaign is monumental.
The miscommunication or the mismanagement of her campaign finance reports.
is the story that and Kelda being a spoiler for Francesca, because Kelda took just enough progressive voters away from Francesca in liberal Dane County to where Francesca could not unilaterally run up the score in her own backyard.
Because if you look at how competitive Francesca was in Milwaukee County, there's no way she should have been within one and a half points of David Crowley's vote total in the county that elected and reelected David Crowley.
So her campaign strategy, the campaign in Milwaukee, whether it be doing doors in a black community or doing a pretty big rally in South Milwaukee, like that, that worked out beautifully for her.
It's just Kelda took away her boat totals in her home district.
I also got some information yesterday that so we had a state Supreme Court race in April of this year, I'm assuming, right?
I think so.
So they encounter Kelt, not it was, um, I'm sorry, Francesca's assembly district, because we wanted to look at.
How they were performing so in Francesca's backyard in the assembly district that she represents What were her voters doing to get this by 11 o'clock yesterday morning?
Okay, 11 a.m 24,000 votes have been cast in Francesca Hong's district.
We're talking with eight more hours of The polls being open 24,000 people had already voted right so when we got those numbers
conventional wisdom told us like oh man Fran is cleaning up in her district which she should and which she had to but it was shocking to see that that many people in her assembly district had already voted by 11 a.m.
I'll give you a little point of reference here in the Supreme Court race that was statewide in April only 20,000 people had voted in Francesca's district by 11 a.m.
So 4,000 more people
Voted in the Democratic primary for governor out of Francesca's assembly district Yesterday, then they did in April in a damn general election like that is when I saw that I was like, uh-oh And then I looked at the fact that Milwaukee had only cast 28,000 early votes altogether.
I was like, oh, that's the margin right there.
Holy smokes were we wrong?
Hong needed Madison to be a fortress instead she wanted
But Crowley kept the damage manageable Number two Milwaukee County Crowley's firewall.
This is where Crowley's coalition mattered most He entered the race as Milwaukee County executive and had the advantage of an established.
There's that establishment word Political organization and substantial familiarity in the state's largest Democratic County some take a break come back give you a few more takeaways But also shall we discuss this boogeyman?
This evil doer that lurks in the democratic side of politics The establishment is the establishment Something to be frowned upon are they the problem?
Are they the reason why so many progressives are?
Anti-establishment and why the label of establishment is not necessarily a good thing like nobody should walk around wearing a t-shirt saying their establishment has the establishment been unfairly demonized because we're gonna have to sort all this out if you guys want and expect the desired result come April I'm sorry November 3rd The truth with Sherwin Hughes on one on one seven FM will be back shortly
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Sherwin, the biggest challenge for Crowley is what will he do for the black men slash youth in Milwaukee?
What the hell can he do?
If you are an executive governor of the state of Wisconsin, you can.
Sign legislation passed by the Assembly and the Senate.
You can veto legislation passed by the Assembly and the Senate, which they can go back and override.
And you can get very creative in crafting our biennial budgets, which can direct funding to different places, spaces, organizations, et cetera.
To answer that question because I don't want anyone to think that black men and black boys are just lowly shiftless and completely Helpless because when you think about it, there's not a lot of impact that you can have on that boys family on his abusive mama and his incarcerated father There's a lot of times the the die has already been cast and some people were just not gonna be able to save and I wish that there was a more profound understanding of that because I think that we realize how we may have failed
people in our community, but that's the community failing other people.
We can't then say, oh, no, we failed all these children.
We weren't there for them.
We didn't protect them.
We allowed for their abuse, and we turned a blind eye to it, and then say, hey, government, come help these people.
It is never going to work like that.
And some of the most successful communities that you will see anywhere will not turn a blind eye to the needs and the futures of their children, nor will they expect the government to have the solution.
It's very, very difficult for African-Americans because we may see things happening to children that are negatively impacting them, but here's what I would challenge you to do.
Let's say you see a parent that's not parenting very well.
Go ahead and tell that mama she's doing a bad job.
No, no, I'll wait.
No, I'll watch.
I'll get my camera out while you go tell this mother that she is creating a toxic and poisonous, unproductive environment for her son.
And then I'll do you one better.
Then tell that mother when that child gets home from school that they sit down at the kitchen table and they do the homework together.
And then the mother spends two hours a night reading to the child and the child can't have any screen time because they're going to have reading time.
You go ahead and suggest that to that mother.
Go ahead.
The problem is, I think that we have resigned to the fact that we don't have any influence on one another because there are so many positive examples of what black people can do, what they can be in our accomplishments, but they're not penetrating.
The other thing that we have to worry about is the number of very
Talents that African-Americans very creative your entrepreneurs People that would make great stewards on behalf of the public like people that we great candidates for political office.
They don't stay here They go to where their talents can be better recognized and some of that is just the unintended or maybe intended consequence of being a hyper minority in a state like Wisconsin African-Americans are only 4% of the state's population
Now, you can look at that one or two ways.
Because the population of African-Americans is so small, the overall investment of resources in that very small population can go a long way.
I would argue what the hell do you do about suffering white people because they are 80% of the population, but 84% of the voters?
Arguably, there are probably more poor white people in any collection of four or five counties than there are black people in the entire state of Wisconsin.
But also keeping in mind and this is something that I thought Would be working against David Crowley, but it also shows this duplicity and the dichotomy of the Wisconsin voter the Wisconsin voter is exceptionally Schizophrenic the Wisconsin voter is awful this meds you you didn't take your Thorazine Or whatever you people take you didn't take it because how do you have
a liberally democratically elected Supreme Court take away a minority scholarship.
And they're soon to make unconstitutional a supplier diversity program where 5% of the state's contracts go to minority-owned businesses.
That's going to be made illegal because they look at race and anything that looks at race, even if it's been demonstrated that one race was discriminated.
Wanted to make up for that past discrimination by putting a damn 5% preference on contracts that's going to be unconstitutional as well And also you have a referendum on the ballot on November 3rd that will make like David Crowley's story is admired by many Of how he came up from you know, very humble beginnings I'm being diplomatic when I say that to reach damn near the highest level of Electoral politics in the state of Wisconsin I'd imagine somewhere along the way
There were some opportunities.
There was some desire for more diversity, equity and inclusion.
Maybe there was some benefit that he received, maybe something along the way that helped smooth the roughness of the road that was the one that he took to his path to success.
There's going to be a question on the ballot that is going to take all of that away at the same time.
Wisconsin voters chose an African-American man in a state that is 80% white, that is also the worst, one of the absolute worst states for black children to get an education and for black families to be successful.
That is the kind of duplicity that I don't know if you can explain with just regular conventional wisdom.
I've always had a very healthy mistrust of Caucasian voters and I say that because
Why wouldn't they put their social and political interests first?
You're supposed to.
Now, here's the weird thing about that.
When white people put their interests first, I think the white people like really care about their communities and their families.
But when they do so, we as black people find a racist almost like we don't want them to walk and chew gum at the same time because we can be pro black all day and people just, they just accept that.
But if somebody says, I'm pro white.
Hey, you're racist.
Now we.
a little bit beneath the surface because white isn't even really a thing.
White is Europeans that shed their identity in favor of being a part of a system that gets to structurally and institutionally discriminate.
We get that part.
But the climate that we are in solidified and fortified by the Trump administration because the better than...
200 executive orders that Donald Trump signed his first I don't know probably weaker to an office Struck right at the heart of all of the civil rights progress that had been made over the past seven decades Including the original executive order signed March 9th 1961 by then president John Fitzgerald Kennedy
creating affirmative action.
We must take affirmative action to ensure that all Americans have jobs and opportunities within the federal government because the way Kennedy saw it, if black people are citizens of this country and they are paying federal income taxes, then black people deserve opportunities in the federal government.
How incredibly disrespectful.
But that's the heart of what the civil rights movement was.
The whole thing with Rosa Parks, some of it was staged, but point well taken.
If a black person is paying the same fare as a white person riding the bus, you can't tell that black person where they are supposed to sit because they're paying the same fare.
Now, if black people were able to ride public transportation for free, absolutely you can say, hey, you don't have to pay to ride this bus, but here are the free seats.
That's totally different.
But because we paid the same fare,
You he she they nor the system can dictate where a black person sits So Rosa was like, I'm a sit here and the bus driver was like, oh, no, you're not I'll pull this bus over.
Yes indeed.
I will and then you know what happened after that if black people Are paying federal income taxes then the federal government should be open for their employment
How disrespectful to collect federal income taxes from African Americans, but then still bar them from federal employment.
And that is what Kennedy did, and that was the birth of affirmative action.
Donald Trump took it away.
Cancer research by the federal government, which we know has improved and lengthened the lives of African Americans more so than any other demographic group in the federal government investing cancer research.
Because this is something that goes back to the Barack Obama administration.
A lot of folks who love Barack Obama, we romanticize him.
And some of you wish Barack Obama would run again.
We don't even understand the most important parts of his legacy when he gave Joe Biden that the Congress, when he give him the presidential medal of freedom.
But he also named Joe Biden as the cancers are because one of the reasons why Joe Biden did not run for president in 2016 because he was dealing with the death of his son, Beau, who died from cancer.
Joe Biden, who we believe has got cancer himself and that debate that he messed up against Donald Trump, that wasn't because Joe Biden has dementia.
That man was going through chemotherapy.
We come to find out two damn weeks ago, which they would have said it then.
Well, I guess they couldn't have said it then because then they should have said, oh, you shouldn't be president if you got the chemo and the cancers.
Barack Obama named Joe Biden as the cancers are and Joe Biden when he gets elected in 2020 took cancer funding and cancer research very seriously so the federal government invested in it and It improved the lives and extended the lives of African Americans with cancer more than any other demographic group Donald Trump reduced if not eliminated
the federal government's investment in cancer research for one reason and one reason only because it was improving black people's lives.
But the reason why we had those bigger investments in cancer research is because it will improve the lives and the longevity of African-Americans.
But for some reason we don't attribute that stuff to to Barack Obama nor Joe Biden's legacy.
I will stop short of saying that the Democrats have found the Obama coalition because I think that that is
A relic of the past because Democrats have been searching and failing miserably to put together that Barack Obama coalition that existed in 2008 and 2012.
I don't know if we'll ever see that again.
And the Democrats have been searching for it.
They've been searching for it by talking to rural voters and trying to convert Republican voters.
I think that coalition that Democrats have just been stuck in a time warp trying to rebuild is just a figment of their imagination.
Thinking that we can rebuild the Obama coalition because I'm already hearing the similarities now David Crowley and Obama.
Hold on.
Not quite.
Not the same.
Not the same.
But the conditions of America weren't the same either.
Donald Trump has so incredibly poison.
The the well of the political water in which we drink.
I don't know if an Obama coalition could ever form ever again.
It's like that that guy.
There was a.
high school football star and he ran three touchdowns in one game against Central in 1974 and he's still talking about it today oh man I remember back in 74 when I ran three touchdowns against Central and he's still hanging on to this this relic of the past I think Democrats are also stuck
and trying to rebuild a coalition that quite honestly is a figment of our political imagination.
It happened once, doesn't mean it can happen again.
And so what happened?
I believe that the Democrats became, over time, ineffective because they were chasing a coalition that was so strong, it got an African American man who's part Kenyan and has a Muslim middle name elected president, not once, but twice.
Then you can have an entry point for Democratic socialists because while Democrats were blind and trying to put together a coalition that could only exist at that time for that man in that situation the country was in.
They let a lot of opportunities slip through their fingers even Hakeem Jeffries is like a Remnant or a throwback to the Obama coalition like the way he talks in a way He carries himself like those long pauses that's theater You know who else is a throwback to the Obama coalition listen very closely to mayor Cavalier Johnson when he talks, you know channel Obama But I think that's also the influence of Barack Obama Hey, I've known David Crawley for 25 years
Milwaukee.
I'll tell you what is that long drawn out pause with some little quiet stutter.
Let me let me let me tell you.
Look at here.
Everyone look look at me.
No down here.
Cavalier Johnson.
Yeah, here I am.
Tell you something about David Crawley.
I'll tell you what
I have to say during the video I shot during the David Crowley rally.
Yeah.
Yeah, what did you think of the piece?
Oh, you didn't
You know, when I spend time on the internet, it's usually self-serving.
I gotta put together shows and find articles.
Then I do the YouTube broadcast at night, but I watch a little piece of it.
I rarely have time to sit down and watch 20 minutes of anything.
Ah, that's fine.
Well, you have it on your YouTube channel.
So those of
you
political lawyer
Just be all political stuff.
I got some Tom Tiffany stuff coming up very soon
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Kelder ruined it.
Oh, poor Kelder.
Shout out to her because I don't know if you guys were listening that day.
I'll assume that you were I Cold called the candidates while I was on air just to see Who would respond?
And who I could get to call into the radio program.
I think it was a couple of Fridays ago.
I Texted I don't text all of them.
I texted Mandela
I texted David.
I texted Kelda and Francesca.
I didn't text Joel because he had been on the program so recently that, eh, we didn't need to hear from him again.
Mandela never got back to me.
In fact, I haven't spoken a word to Mandela this entire election cycle.
Fine with me.
David didn't get back to me.
Even though David's press person, Jonathan,
Contacted me pretty late Monday night Trying to get David on my show yesterday for like a last-minute push and I I originally said yes, but then I realized the management here They say they want 24 hours notice before I have guests in studio sounds like I can't have them on cuz I'm not giving 24 hours notice
What do you say Xavier you know me I'm a rule breaker so
Hell with the rules.
Yeah, there's rules that I'm absolutely gonna break so when I break the ones I want them to count for something that's just and also I Thought that Not only was it too little too late, but that's been the whole model of the campaign Everything has been too little too late with like shout out to procrastinators You know what I mean because usually people are talking down to procrastinators if you're running for governor do us over the last minute That might be your saving grace
And I also was thinking, like, what am I going to say to David?
What am I going to ask him that haven't asked him already?
He's been elected a reelected county executive.
He served in the state legislature for a couple of terms.
We know the dude.
People's minds around here were already made up.
And plus, what the hell was he going to say?
So
I
Maybe I probably should have.
You know what I mean?
Maybe I should have just snuck him in here just to see what he was going to say on election day, knowing that with hindsight being 2020.
So I texted Mandela that day.
I was playing I was cold calling or cold texting the candidates Mandela didn't reply David didn't reply.
It's like when I reach out to them You know, they get back to me at their leisure, but always sure when can we come on?
Can we come on the show?
Yeah, when do you want to come on?
We're at the front door right now.
We're gonna come in right now.
No, no, no, no Keldar responded
And so did Francesca and we ended up doing brief phone interviews with both of them which I find very ironic because the two
of
I think both of them saw an opportunity to take votes From the city of Milwaukee, which absolutely was Francesca's political strategy And I'm sure that Kelsen do that because if you see your number one top competitor and Francesca Hong and Kelsen Roy's were competing after the same votes
in their home county.
And I know that Kelda had been following Francesca's campaign.
There was a real cringy, awkward video that Kelda posted.
It's an hour long Facebook video where one of her staff is off camera and asking her questions about everything from data centers to reproductive health to raising wages and badger care for all.
Some of you may have seen this video.
It's so cringy, cringy.
There's even a video the Kelly she did like a tiktok where she's lip-syncing beyond say I'm like girl come on.
Yo don't Just trying to see whatever can stick to the wall.
That's so desperate and sad So there's this video of Kelda in the kitchen Like she really cooks but whatever so she's in the kitchen looking like a homemaker Making spaghetti and then she's answering a bunch of questions about
Issues that she probably believes are important to voters if you haven't seen the video It's unless she took it down, which I know she probably hasn't go to Kelder Roy's Facebook page and go take a look at this video It's an hour long.
Don't watch the whole thing because you'll go nuts You know how Franny Pan sometimes channels Rosie the Riveter
Like she wears like her her jumpsuit and she'll have the bandana in her hair and you might see a bunch of pictures of when Francesca Hong was working in the restaurant the way she ties her hair back with that bandana That's like her signature style right if I see that style.
I'm thinking oh Franny pants because she does the bandana in the hair You know that Kelda did the exact same thing in that video and Kelda's also cooking she's in the kitchen.
It was almost like she was mimicking Francesca's style in order to court
Francesca's voters.
It was just so weird and awkward.
Kelda's cooking in the kitchen.
Francesca is the chef.
Kelda had the bandana in her hair that Francesca often wears just a cringe worthy vigil.
We should have our own ask her about it.
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Voting results are now in after, quote, human error, caused a delay in Milwaukee Tuesday night into early Wednesday morning.
In an update in the early morning hours Wednesday, Milwaukee County Clerk George Christensen announced the voting results put David Crowley at a total of 65,131 votes.
coming to forty three point zero four percent.
Francesca Hong finished with sixty two thousand seven hundred thirty nine votes coming to forty one point forty six.
When asked about the error that occurred Tuesday night, Christianson said and I quote.
Oh, Georgie.
Well, that happens, you know, no.
Come on, George, you gotta get your head out of your bottom.
Well, that happens, you know, the city of Milwaukee is under a lot of scrutiny always and essentially human error happens.
And I think we should all just take note that these things happen, you know.
And at the end of the day, what's important is that we're transparent, that the results are secure and that we're open and honest.
and that's what the city of Milwaukee elections director did.
She came up here and she explained it, went back, got the results, brought them back to us, and we got everything right.
And that's what's most important.
Now, that's the statement from the Milwaukee County clerk who oversees elections in the county.
If I'm Francesca Hong's campaign, I want that whole thing investigated.
Dude said, well, you know that happens.
Here's what really took place.
A flash drive was, I don't know, misplaced.
Somebody didn't push a button.
Somebody didn't transfer the votes over.
15,000 votes, mostly going to David Crowley from the second and the ninth automatic districts were discovered, giving David Crowley essentially his margin in the county.
Doesn't that sound odd?
And so here's the thing.
I'm not assuming that there's anything malicious because I know human beings.
I know them very well.
Human beings will do something dumb and stupid before they'll do something mean, nasty and malicious.
People make mistakes all the time.
Make stupid mistakes.
I make stupid mistakes.
One of the biggest stupid mistake I make, keep going back to the same damn ex-girlfriend.
Can't help it.
Stupid mistake.
Keep doing it.
Is that real?
Mm-hmm.
Oh, jeez.
There's plenty of other women
Oh yeah.
You know that you know the the River West woman was a lot smarter than me.
No, no, no, no, no.
That's the that's the one that's the tatted one.
They'll have dirty feet.
Oh, no, she had clean feet.
Very Oh, yes, you know, I know Clean feet your foot guy like feet.
I like a nice Well-kept foot with you know, nice painted toe nails and yeah, I do like
don't want some corns and stuff like that.
dead skin
They're trying to normalize women hair
little hair wouldn't hurt you you know
it does
I don't know this is a
matter of personal preference and here's the thing there's gonna be somebody out there oh my god Sherwin you're such a big most of the women shave most women don't even like being hairy because I just assume that when a woman doesn't shave I'm just gonna say legs and armpits that she approaches me to shake my hand hey I'm I'm Stacy nice to meet you
You want to go grab a beer as she pulls out a pack of Newport Kings, which is perfectly fine.
It's just that's not my thing, but also I Don't want to be seen as a person That objectifies women for their bodies.
Yeah,
her as a human being.
Yes, respect all body types.
it's still in
me every so often It must be jammed cuz jelly don't shake like that sometimes when I see you know I'm saying a woman that has got the curves Oh, yeah, and she got that jiggle like she still is moving even after she stops walking.
You know I'm talking about
I just I can't help it.
It's just something as a man.
Something happens.
And that's why I just can't understand.
Yeah, voluptuous.
I can't understand the gaze.
Like why you would see a
man are disgusting.
We are.
We're not.
Well, a gay might see you coming.
Oh, my God.
Oh, the gays love.
Yeah.
Oh, that beard.
He's has the bald head.
They love me very much.
Yes.
caught.
Oh, you wouldn't accept a drink from a friendly gay person that bought you one at a bar?
Yeah, you
Oh look who's calling Quote well that happens, you know the city of Milwaukee is just under a lot of scrutiny always and essentially human error happens This is what George Christianson said.
He is the Milwaukee County clerk who oversees
elections and election results in Milwaukee County.
Look, I get it.
I know that the city of Milwaukee is under scrutiny and unnecessary scrutiny from the Trump administration that believes that we cast a whole bunch of fake votes and we let a bunch of illegal people vote.
So if you know that we're under that kind of scrutiny, like I wonder how do they, do they pressure test our election system to account for things like this?
Because moving forward, and here's the thing, it is to the benefit of every single person in the city of Milwaukee that we can have trust.
In our elections and that the system in the process has integrity because there can't even be any doubt there can't even be even the slightest Appearance of some kind of impropriety because we are under an incredible kind of microscope That calls into question our election results because this is just an old weird stereotype that when Democrats win is because
Illegal people are voting or non-citizens are voting or people are voting twice Which we know is not true and I can tell you I got first-hand experience especially when it comes to the African-American community It's hard as hell to get us to vote once let alone get us to vote twice And so we are We are treated unfairly in that regard when there are high vote totals in the city of Milwaukee, which we know is a democratic stronghold
There's always going to be some skepticism.
And so that is even more reason to make sure that these kinds of errors don't happen.
Because every now and again, ladies and gentlemen, we will get elections that are very, very close to where everybody can raise an eyebrow.
And because these systems do involve human beings and human beings can make errors, we've got to figure out a better way.
And I'm willing and open and available to help however I can.
to make sure that our elections have integrity and that people aren't making these silly and stupid mistakes because at some point it may cost somebody a very close election.
If I'm the Francesca Hall campaign and I read or see the statement made by George Christensen, the Milwaukee County Clerk, I would want a little bit more transparency because the number of votes that David Crowley won by statewide
could be some kind of a clerical error in any one of 72 counties and 1850 different municipalities.
That's a lot of different cities.
That's a whole bunch of different counties.
And that's a whole bunch of people that might have been drunk, high, tired, uninterested or just otherwise not careful.
Let's talk to Al.
You're on one on one seven the truth.
How are you?
I'm
doing fine and congratulations to Mr. Crowley.
I heard you bring up, you know, that white people want to be pro-white.
I think that's wonderful.
But my question is, why is it every time you come to y'all being pro-white or being pro anything, y'all always want to put black people in your business?
Black people are not even effing with y'all like that.
And I just think it's a disease and trauma that y'all have got from your household and your upbringing.
Black people have not lived and have hung.
Black people have not went out their way or took time out their day to hang you from a tree, record raping your children and making videos and bragging about it.
That is your white ass, Ken, folks.
We have not done anything to you, but you keep putting us in your business.
Why you don't go take that up with your mammy and your grandpappy?
It is not black people fault that some of your white king folks don't feel comfortable with their white children around your goddamn daddy.
So if you are so pro-white, be pro-white, but why you gotta put us in your business?
We don't even ask what you like that.
And all your anger, hate, and trauma comes from your goddamn household.
But if you're just that mad,
And that miserable why not put a double bear shotgun in a roof of your mouth and pull the trigger and blow your goddamn brains out?
And you can be all pro-white in peace.
I'm just trying to understand why you keep putting this in your business.
And Al from Sherman Park, I like how you try to pull that trick car on that race car you try to pull.
That's not gonna work with me, boo boo, because I don't praise nobody who look like Burke Reynolds, okay?
So you can take that.
to Lakot when they're doing Tina in the bathroom.
So don't try that with me.
But my question is, why is it when it comes to being pro-white, you keep putting black people in your business?
Why y'all don't do that with the Jews?
They're not even real white and they want to be white.
Black people ain't walking around here wanting to be white.
Yeah, we got a couple of cool ass niggas that want to be like you, but that's not us.
So I'm going to hang up and listen.
Why do you keep putting us?
in your business when we never wanted to be in your business.
I think that's kind of sick.
Love yourself a great day.
Bye-bye.
I don't know.
I can't speak for them, but it seems if a black person becomes successful and a white person doesn't share,
That same level of success maybe just maybe the white person is wondering well It must have been affirmative action or it must have been some kind of a minority quota because how on earth because I think the white culture knows full-on well What it has done structurally and institutionally to marginalize black success They don't like when we drive nice cars and live in big houses.
They don't like it.
They're okay if we have stuff
But just have less than us I Think might be some of the prevailing wisdom and also maybe I'm blowing this whole thing out of proportion Maybe white people aren't racist at all.
Maybe they love us so very much.
They love us a
lot
You gotta limit how much time you spend thinking about stuff like that cuz it'll mess your brains up There's a different kind of racism that exists in the north that I've become familiar with obviously because I'm from here, but I can contrast it with
The racism that exists in the South In the South I'm talking the former Confederacy.
I'm talking about those deep red states and no matter what Donald Trump is doing He's always gonna have better than a 50% approval rating.
I'm talking about that kind of South Black and white culture in the South is very very similar.
You don't have the same kind of segregation What'll happen is you'll have a poor part of town and you'll have a wealthier part of town and there will be black people and white people live right next door to each other in both segments
of that town, the poor part and the rich part.
And culturally, very similar.
They eat the same foods a lot of times.
It's just that I think in the south, they don't really want black people to have anything.
Just nothing, no kind of success.
But also at the same time, they know that they're powerless to prevent it.
In the north, I think that they're okay with black people being successful, but be successful over there.
Go away or go go stay in your own neighborhood and be successful.
Don't come out here with all that don't come out to River Hills Don't come out to Menominee Falls.
Don't come out to Waukesha Stay on the north side.
Oh, you can have success on the north side.
We just don't want to see it We don't want it near near us.
I think is the difference in Midwestern racism Currently we do not know
Full percentage of voter turnout yet because there are still some marginal amounts of ballots that need to be counted My prediction is we're probably somewhere at 27 to 29% if I had to guess Lady B says I Don't even know why I'm gonna read this First of all, I'm gonna fully disclose to all of you that I don't know this lady from Adam
Or maybe I should say I don't know her from Eve.
I don't know who this lady isn't and she's a frequent listener of the program this and on my YouTube channel Hughes views 414 Oh, and if you haven't subscribed to that go ahead and do it But she says sure when it's so toxic lol and then her next thing she types is That's why I don't want a relationship with him woman.
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I mean, you don't want a relationship with me.
I don't want one with you.
Well, it depends what you're talking about, though.
What are you trying to do?
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Professor Hughes, there's plenty of baldy locks out there.
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Paulina Gutierrez, the executive director of the Milwaukee Election Commission, said audit logs from five machines were downloaded instead of the actual results.
Gutierrez said the issue was caused by, quote, human error.
Now.
Workers need to return those machines and make sure the results are downloaded properly Gutierrez said approximately 15,000 ballots are yet to be counted wait a minute That was at 12 13 a.m.
Okay, so they've been counted already Okay Published at 4 p.m.
August 11th, so yesterday afternoon while the polls were open
Workers at Milwaukee Central Count worked to tally thousands of absentee ballots on Tuesday in Wisconsin's partisan primary election.
Tallying began early and the Milwaukee Election Commission says it was a busy but smooth day overall.
Workers downloaded votes onto a flash drive that was taken to the Milwaukee County Courthouse to be securely uploaded.
100 workers were there on site all day counting more than 26,000 absentee ballots that were returned.
Paulina Gutierrez, the executive director of the Milwaukee Election Commission, says there was low turnout on Tuesday, especially in comparison to the August 2022 primary for governor.
Across the board, we are seeing pretty low turnout in this election.
Gutierrez said I was looking at August 2022 election.
That was about 26%.
That total was 73,000 ballots.
They also implemented a new system with bins so that once a ballot was counted,
It did not move again.
Let's talk to Diana.
You're on one on one seven.
The truth.
How are you?
Good morning, Sherwin.
I'm doing great.
Thank you.
I'm just calling on behalf of the voters that they, you know, were repeatedly saying that we're undecided for the polls.
And I was intentionally undecided because the campaign was so unstable.
You know, people dropping out, you know, it just was unstable.
And I wanted to make sure that by the time I voted, I was going to vote for somebody that was going to stay in the campaign.
And I knew that they would be there and know where they are in the polls.
And also, I liked a lot.
I liked a couple of the candidates.
I liked Joe Brennan.
I was confident in him that he could do a good job.
I felt like he worked very closely with Evers.
And so he knows the process.
and I'm sure that he would adopt some of Evers' processes.
And so I felt good about him, except that no one knew him.
You know, he was well-known in maybe the city circle, but as far as voters, he had a real, very poor campaign, and he just didn't put himself out there.
So people didn't know who he was.
And so I think that's what really hurt him.
As far as Kel Delroy, if I like her, I thought she had some good ideas, but she focused a lot on kids.
And so, you know, but being a lawyer, she was, you know, she works with the good, the bad, the ugly.
She's seen it all.
She's worked with all kinds of people.
So I felt good about that.
However, again, she was not very well known and she ran a real very poor campaign and people didn't know her and didn't know what she was about.
And so.
But I feel like when she knew that she couldn't win, she should have dropped out so that giving those voters over to Hong or Crowley, because I think that the votes that she took on, we lost that.
And then along with the people who voted early, and then those people dropped out.
What I didn't want to do was vote for Mandela Barnes or Crowley.
But getting back to that, Francesca Hong.
I did like her.
I liked her a lot.
I liked her ideas.
However, I did not see them really happening.
I didn't see, you know, that's a new fight.
A lot of things that she was looking for, Amy for, were new fights.
And we are now in a climate where we're trying to stabilize our economy.
We're trying to get people back on track, people lost jobs, people lost health insurance.
We need to stay back on track with what we know we can work with.
and not start new fights with ice and new fights with vouchers and whatnot.
But I did like her ideas.
I wish her the best.
Between her and Crawley, I didn't really care who won.
But the reason why I didn't want Crawley or Mandel Barnes is because they've been in the game too long to not have enough successes.
You know, they they've been working out here for a long time.
They're well known and so like where where's the progress and So I was really afraid that we're gonna have a same old, you know same as usual But um, so I hope quality can you know, I hope he steps up this time
He does he does So I hope I hope I hope I've done the right thing
Go
Thank you Diana for your very articulate take on being an undecided voter Okay, well, thank you.
That's great.
Thanks.
You too, Diana That was complicated.
She was all over the place at least she could Clearly articulate her thinking as to why she liked Francesca said some positive things about Kelda
Kelda had a lackluster campaign thought that Joel Brennan could have been potentially good as governor, but he never really got off the ground either fascinating stuff The Madison area counties where Roy's candidacy potentially mattered most So as we are doing autopsy on what happened and it's good to know what happened moving forward Where the Crowley campaign is gonna have to move and gonna have to pivot and going to have to embrace at least some of the ideas that move voters toward either
Francesca Hong or Keldor Royce.
Thank Keldor for staying in the race because Keldor Royce supporters, their second choice was Francesca.
And if just five in 100, just 5% of Keldor supporters would have voted for Francesca even though we know a third of them would have, that would have erased David Crowley's entire lead.
So her staying in the race did tremendous benefit to strengthen David Crowley's vote totals.
Look particularly at Dane County and surrounding South Central Wisconsin counties Roy's political identity was strongly associated with Madison and she was explicitly competing in the same progressive space that Hong occupied Wisconsin Public Radio's pre-election reporting described precisely this problem quote Roy's was progressive but Hong occupied the most progressive lane in their home cities
If Roy's accumulated several thousand votes across Dane County and neighboring counties that otherwise might have gone to Hong, those voters became highly consequential when the statewide margin is only 3,200 votes.
La Crosse and Western Wisconsin, this is another area worth examining because Hong's campaign needed to demonstrate that her progressive appeal extended beyond Madison.
Crowley was campaigning as a candidate who could appeal across the state rather than simply to the Democratic base in Madison and Milwaukee.
His campaign explicitly emphasized statewide electability against Republican Tom Tiffany.
The question for Hong wasn't simply, can I win in Madison?
It was, can I win enough Madison type voters outside of Madison to compensate for Milwaukee?
Ultimately, she did not.
Brown and out of gamey counties and the Fox Valley This is another important test of whether Hong could translate her progressive support into votes outside of Madison and Milwaukee the Associated Press identified Brown and out of gamey counties as Democratic vote centers in northeastern Wisconsin for Hong these counties represented the broader question could she build a statewide progressive coalition or Was her support concentrated in Madison?
and other democratic strongholds.
That distinction became extremely important.
So we're going to take a break, come back, we'll talk to Milisand on the other side and get her take on things.
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Your finances low people you need money How much money I'm always curious to how much money people make Let me ask this question Y'all quit arguing in there y'all are arguing I got a question Hey talking to y'all Turn is knit nitties in there too, right?
I Got a question for both y'all how much money y'all make
Interesting,
I don't know
just in general No, what's okay just like I need a number for what is fully funding public schools I want how much you may need how much your residuals from bow you begin checks you begin royalties build our Wisconsin Is it go platinum All right, okay radio hosting a little cousin, that's fine
Let's talk to Millison.
Hey Millison, how much money do you make?
I don't make no money.
I'm Paul.
I'm in social security.
I'm in a fixed income.
don't have that one.
I got the silver.
Not the 506.
So
I'm glad, I was hoping for all of you men, that's what I was hoping for.
But what I don't want is for us now to get into this behavior of what is she gonna do for us?
What is she gonna do for black people?
How's she gonna make black people better?
If you get into that,
Tom Tiffany is going to show you what's not going to make you better.
So you better just rally around him and vote.
Because if Tom Tiffany gets in there, oh, it's going to be another different kind of horse that we be riding.
So I don't want it just to be like, oh, he's going to get in office.
What are you going to do?
He's going to give us this.
Regardless of what he wants for you, he's going to do better for you than what Tom Tiffany would.
And I think that's where we're at at this point.
Bye bye.
I have found that people who reduce their political understanding to what is he or she going to do for me?
What am I going to get?
What immediate gratification am I going to receive?
What short-term benefit is going to be put into my hand?
Are people that probably do not vote because they do not have an understanding of how the system actually works?
The only thing that we can do is help shape and create a favorable climate and environment where people can maximize their full potential.
So it is not just fully funding education, whatever that means, but it's lowering prices, lowering costs, making it easier to get into entrepreneurship and lowering and reducing any kind of institutional barriers to people's success, creating a climate that is favorable for more jobs and employers to want to come here, et cetera, et cetera.
So if there are barriers, regardless of your community or your zip code,
to your success and right now one of the biggest barriers that we see is a lackluster education program because that goes to the heart of the kind of workforce that we want and we need in Wisconsin.
If we do not have educated people here then the jobs may come, the companies may come, they're going to hire, but they're going to have to hire people who are from somewhere else and that's problematic.
So one of those core issues is, or one of those questions that you may ask or answer, what is the candidate going to do for me?
Ask how they support education, whether it be K-12, whether it be early childhood education, or even maybe subsidizing to a higher degree if you want to go to trade and tech school, which I believe should be completely and totally free.
And even reducing the cost of...
attending a university, because contrary to popular belief, all of the occupations that we need filled with the baby boomer generation removing themselves from the workforce can't just be filled by being a barber or an esthetician.
We are going to actually need people with master's degrees and PhDs and bachelor of science degrees and bachelor of arts degrees.
They're still a necessary part of our society that needs those kinds of degrees.
Now, it's very expensive.
But the best investment a human being can ever make ever and it's not real estate and the stocks and the bonds and the derivatives and and the options and that's not the best investment.
You can really the best investment you can make is on call.
She betting that David Crowley would win the race.
I know somebody that did that and they're stupid rich.
They came in here smelling like money.
You know how people attitude change when they get money.
They look at you funny.
They look down their nose at you.
I know what that feeling is.
A lot of people look at me like I'm short.
Like, I got money too.
I got a little, I can go out to eat.
I can take a woman on a date.
I got a little money, but I ain't got as much money as some of y'all.
I know somebody came in here today.
They won big money last night.
They came in and they was like, what you looking at?
Who was you?
Do I know you?
Excuse me.
Open this door for me.
Who are you?
Are you the help?
Who are you?
I'm rich.
That's what the person said.
They said it to me.
Sherwin who?
Sherman.
Is that your name?
I don't know you.
I was like, nitty, it's me.
Who?
Security.
And then nitty security.
Nitty got rich.
He didn't tell me how much money he made.
You don't need this little radio gig, Needy.
You don't need this.
This is just something that you just do for fun.
Just be coming here, just be chilling.
You on for a long time today.
He said he does need it.
No, he don't need this.
Needy just, he got so much money.
He was like, I think I'll run for office.
Needy ran against Bob Baumann.
I was right there with him.
I was like, come on, Needy, let's get it.
He cracked me up yesterday.
Needy was like, I would have won my race if it wasn't raining on election day.
I was like word.
I was like, come on, dog.
You know, black people don't be.
What was I not supposed to say that?
It's true.
People was like, I want to vote for Nitty, but I just got my hair done.
He'll win.
He'll he gonna be.
I love him.
Black folks say they don't need my vote.
They gonna be.
I know that's when the blacks lose.
Quote.
Kelder Roy's didn't have to win the election to potentially determine who won it.
Kelder Roy's received approximately 59,000 votes, Crowley won by approximately 3,200.
So, only about one out of every 18 Kelder Roy's voters would have had to have chose Hong instead for the outcome to change.
We have polling evidence that says Keldoroy's voters actually lean toward Hong as their second choice.
34% Hong versus 29% for Crowley.
That's why saying Keldoroy's may have been the difference is mathematically accurate.
But we cannot say that Roy's definitely lost or cost Hong the election.
There is no
counterfactual ballot.
Some Roy's voters would have voted Crowley, some would have voted Brennan, some may have voted for one of the other candidates who had withdrawn, some may not have voted at all.
So the intellectually honest conclusion is, you ready for this?
Roy's didn't necessarily cost Hong the election, but she absolutely received enough votes to have changed the election and the available polling suggests that her voters lean more toward Hong than Crowley.
With a statewide margin of only about 3,200 votes, that makes Roy's one of the most important unanswered questions of the entire election.
Francesca Hong didn't lose because she had no constituency.
She received essentially 40% of the Democratic vote.
She lost because she couldn't consolidate the progressive vote enough to overcome Crowley's establishment coalition.
So there you go.
Ladies and gentlemen.
So she's essentially the white Mandela Barnes.
hmm.
Yeah She is
just gets in the way messing things up for others
Yeah, they saw what What probably should have happened was but Kelda has she's very confident and it probably borders on On arrogance and also Kelda is the senator.
She is higher ranking than Francesca
And sometimes pride gets in the way and it can blind you, especially if you're really super ambitious.
Kelda, who is the lawyer, who is the senator, who has been around Wisconsin politics since Francesca was probably 10 years old, was not going to bow out of a race and endorse and support her subordinate, even though that would have better solidified the progressive coalition.
It would have.
And imagine, in the perfect world, what happens is this?
Francesca says, hey, Kelda, I'm going to win.
I'm going to solve the progressive coalition.
You drop out of the race.
You endorse me.
And then I will give you a position in the state government.
I'll make you a secretary of transportation or Department of Administration.
I don't know that Kelda would accept a position in a gubernatorial administration from her subordinate.
There's a pride thing.
And Kelda stayed in the race.
Kelda polled.
Very, very low.
If anything, the Marquette University Law School poll, which needs to be completely discredited.
I don't ever want to see another Marquette poll ever again.
First of all, screw Marquette.
I went to UW Milwaukee.
We'll kick Marquette's ass.
We'll fight you.
Bunch of private school kids.
Talk about I went to Marquette.
Give me your lunch money, ho.
No, Sherwin.
Marquette kids will be having $35,000 in cash for lunch.
Yeah,
We had to fight each other for food.
We were like rabbit dogs We used to rob and steal at UW Milwaukee, but we're highly educated just want to let you know We're the streets smart university.
You know what I mean?
Market University got one thing right.
Hilda was in single-digit and she remained I think she ended up getting on about 4% of the boat
But that 4% was very crucial.
But she should have dropped out of the race.
And Doris Francesca had momentum that Kelda could never get.
Kelda's never been able to get that kind of momentum.
Remember, she ran for governor in 2018 and finished in the exact same damn place, single digits.
She also ran for Congress against Mark Polkane, and Mark Polkane is a homosexual gay fellow, right?
So when Kelda was running against Mark Polkane in that primary, Kelda all of a sudden became bisexual.
Oh, I'm a member of the LGBTQ community.
We was like, Kelda, chill.
Girl, you married and got five kids.
Ain't no man, no lesbian about you.
Mark Pokehens, though, gee.
Kelda kissed a girl if she liked it.
She's like, I'm
a lesbian.
I'm going to get the gay vote.
I wonder will the Francesca people rebel against her now?
Will she be, you know, bad, you know, no good, no more in Madison?
Yes.
Oh,
well.
Let's make her a pariah now in Madison.
That's not my thing I got a whole city Milwaukee worry about Madison is gonna do what Madison does.
I ain't got nothing to do with me Madison is weird
I go there when I have to but it's never like on top of my list of places to go because I'm so familiar with that place and Like the social climate of Madison.
I don't like it.
It's a fake veneer of progressivism and liberalism It is shrouded in the most intense kind of racism you have absolutely ever seen is that that white liberal kind of racism like oh, I know better than you niggers too.
Well, no, we know no, I don't mean it that way like that's
That's the Madison liberal.
No, no, I love niggers.
No, my God.
I love you guys so much.
You guys dance so good.
But here, policy-wise here, I'm going to write the script for you and then you guys just do what we say because we're Madison.
Yuck.
No thanks.
And they don't even think there's anything wrong with that attitude.
And they'll be like, well, look at you niggers.
I mean, no, no, look at how you live.
Come live like us.
We'll help you.
Just vote for our political agenda so we can keep our lead over you.
No thanks.
So I don't get involved in it.
Okay, I'm gonna take a break, come back.
I guess we'll do a Hughes Views 414 show tonight.
Called to kill the Barnes.
We did some big numbers last night.
We did some
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I'm not watching anybody's pocket.
I'm just curious as to how much money people make.
I know the younger generations, they oftentimes share salary information and you know what they have done?
They have eliminated or certainly dramatically reduced pay disparities because when people share how much their salaries are in the same job.
Employers sometimes have a lot of explaining to do.
I know it was common amongst some of my younger colleagues.
They was real open and honest about how much money they made.
I'll be doing that because people will judge you.
I mean, I wouldn't judge anybody if they told me how much money they made.
In fact, the wealthier you are, contrary to popular belief, you're more likely to be a damn democratic socialist.
It's the most unusual phenomenon ever.
When the Democratic Socialists of America did their own internal survey of their members, and they released this information, Democratic Socialists are 85% white.
The Republican Party is 79% white, so Democratic Socialists are actually whiter.
Only 4% of Democratic Socialists work in
blue collar labor type of jobs 96% of them absolutely do not 35% of democratic socialists have at least at least at least a Master's degree or higher a third of them Have master's degrees or higher and another third of them Make better than $100,000 a year.
These are not
poor people that even need Medicare for all.
In fact, I think that their lives are already so on paper complete.
They're high levels of education.
They're higher levels of income.
They might as well ask for more.
They might as well ask for free health insurance.
They might as well ask for reduced college tuition.
They might as well.
That's such an interesting phenomenon, but also
In the grand scheme of things, ladies and gentlemen, I think the last night's election results will prove this accurate.
The African-American vote that is still largely democratic does not do or agree with or even believe the principles of democratic socialism.
And why is that?
It is a Western European modality in majority white countries where majority white people use their money and their taxes to take care of one another, whether it be Bernie Sanders or whether it be Francesca Hong.
They don't have the understanding because their party and their affiliation of being a democratic socialist is conversations that take place amongst white people without including the very specific sentiments of the black community where race is going to play a factor even if.
If you have Medicare for all or Badger care for all, they're still going to find a way to disqualify a large number of African Americans.
It is a European economic and political modality, and I don't know about you, but I don't need any other kind of European influence tainting the lives of non-European people.
Go back to Europe if you want.
Ain't nobody stopping you from going to Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland.
You're welcome to go there.
They got plenty of room, and you can go skiing on snow or cocaine.
Not my problem.
Congratulations to Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley.
Now the real fight begins against the election-denying ultra-conservative MAGA Acolyte Tom Tiffany, who did win his primary last night.
And he is the Republican nominee for governor in the state of Wisconsin.
So let's saddle up.
Roll out.
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