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Who Do You Trust?

The Truth with Sherwin Hughes · Fri Aug 7, 2026

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While there has been little change in overall trust, the youngest birth cohorts has shown a notable increase in trust over the years.

Trust among those born in the 2000s increased from 23% in 2021 to 35% in 2026.

That number is still underwater though.

So if you were born in the 2000s in the year 2021, 77% of the people born in the 2000s didn't trust anybody.

23% did, but that did improve to 35%.

of the people born in the 2000s trusted people but still 65% did not that has a direct impact on political parties because if you have seen the democrats and seen the republicans and you already have a very low standard for politics mostly because people don't understand it because it's civics is not taught or if it's taught it's taught with a bias it's not really taught objectively you have to almost want to learn it and study it on your own to get the real facts or if you want a shortcut

Just listen to International media because they talk about America Like America actually is like they don't have a reason to sugarcoat or to to lie Or to misrepresent American history because I mean all the stuff that happened happened Tell the story as it happens.

Some of it is terrible.

Some of it is very unflattering But the whole point is to learn from it and we don't learn from it

There's a Latin term called a saculum.

A saculum is a very specific term that applies to the lifespan of a person.

And it's roughly 80 years.

Every 80 years, history begins to repeat itself if you do not teach the lesson.

So in the lifetime of someone, if they don't use their lifetime,

to teach the younger generation, their children, their grandchildren, of what they saw and what they experienced in their lifetime, even the most unflattering, horrible and atrocious things.

If you don't teach the young generation, then by the time you reach the end of your life, you reach the end of one's secular, those young people, as they start to age, are going to repeat the mistakes of history.

Now, this is a much more complicated conversation than I'm willing to have right now.

But no matter how they Explain it So what was 80 years ago?

1946 roughly now there's some variation say say come could be 85 years could be 72 years whatever, but we just came out of World War two Where I could say a big a big factor in World War two

to put it lightly and diplomatically was well there was a little bit of antisemitism

a little bit I mean I mean well kind of a kind of a lot it was a theme

amongst some of those involved in world war two 80 years later and you can say whatever you want about this and I know that they do and the because I'm seeing it because it used to be

The Republicans and the Conservatives really hated the Jews.

They hated them a lot.

I'm starting to see that evidenced in both political parties.

Now, I don't listen.

I'm just a messenger over here, but some of the anti-Semitism that existed pretty profoundly has found its way back.

And the Jews are very sensitive about this because

They want you to watch Schindler's list and that's why Holocaust education is mandatory starting in eighth grade because they are familiar with the saculum and what is one of the things that they say they say never forget that is why they want everybody to tour Dachau and Birkenau and Sobibor and Auschwitz that they're open for you to go in and you see the piles of shoes and the piles of personal belongings that

people were stripped of because they thought that they were going to get their stuff back there.

No, no, no, they were just going to work for a little while.

War is going to be over and then they were all going to go home.

Not many of them.

Went home at all.

In fact, you had some places in Europe that did not have any Jews left and they're very sensitive of that.

And I would argue that there is the appearance of anti-Semitism that has come back, but I'm not shocked by that.

I also am seeing.

a decided rollback of civil rights.

You know, the civil rights movement really got its start after, of course, World War II, when black GIs fought very hard, very bravely, valiantly even, to try and earn the respect of the American people so that we could get civil rights legislation signed into law.

Black men were drafted into World War II from the Jim Crow south, and that Jim Crow segregation also segregated the military.

In fact,

Black GIs got the worst equipment, the most used guns and tanks and armaments and raggedy planes, and they still fought very valiantly to try and prove a point that black people were worthy of equal rights.

I would argue that there is a rollback of civil rights.

I would argue that the Voting Rights Act has been gutted.

Affirmative action has been overturned, in fact, right here in Wisconsin.

The Wisconsin Institute of Law and Liberty is suing the state of Wisconsin to get rid of what is called a supplier diversity program.

Soon will be joined by Wisconsin State Senator Dora Drake, who did get her bachelor's degree.

And she was able to receive a minority scholarship that minority scholarship has now been ruled and deemed unconstitutional because it looks at race in determining someone's financial need to be able to go to higher education.

Completely sidestepping the fact that for many many generations black people were simply prohibited from attending colleges this minority scholarship program, which is only 2,500 bucks a year was a nod to the fact that black people for so long were kept out of the opportunity of Higher education that scholarship is now unconstitutional and guess who did it a liberal Wisconsin State Supreme Court voted seven to nothing

And they didn't even have to take the case because on our referendum on the ballot in November, you're not going to see it when you vote next week Tuesday.

But in November, you are going to see a constitutional amendment that will ban affirmative action, diversity, equity and inclusion in the state of Wisconsin permanently.

This is not a bill.

This is not an idea.

This is not an ordinance.

This will change the Constitution.

If you go back 80 years, where were black people in the fight for civil rights?

We were just really getting it underway because our GIs were some of the first crusaders for equal and fair treatment.

So I can look at anti-Semitism and where it was during World War II and just after, and I can put that side by side with where the fight for civil rights and justice also was.

80 years ago and look where we are anti-Semitism is everywhere and people will say oh It's it's a pack and it's I don't blame the Jews for wanting to invest in people and invest in candidates that are going to preserve who they are I'm not mad at we're just mad because they got a whole bunch of money to do it But then what you do is because we don't like the influence of money in politics, right?

Especially I can understand the hardcore left and the progressives They don't like the impact of an influence of money in politics.

Just wait

Those same people that don't like the impact and influence of money and politics are gonna be begging you Begging you to give money to Francesca home, but they're anti-establishment right establishments where the money is at watch how quickly they turn establishment when they have the opportunity to Have an establishment candidate because the thing about democratic socialism.

It's it's like a third party It's not really credible yet.

It doesn't become credible until it becomes

Part of the establishment until it becomes prime time until it's up there on that stage with old school Democrats and old school Republicans that is when they have Actually arrived.

So this whole anti establishment thing.

I think it plays well With people who are not really involved in politics and they think it's all dirty and they think it's all tainted and that in that encourages those folks it kind of hypnotizes them into You know being involved in this this third party

Phenomenon which is democratic socialism but I don't know when you need money to run commercials and to do direct mail and to hire Canvassers and to hire people that can man the phones and send all of the campaign related text messages You will become establishment AF You can also be

Rebellious and down with the system and we're gonna protest and we're gonna march in 1960s the hippies We don't like war.

We're gonna protest.

We don't want Dow Chemical to be an investor in the UW system and we're gonna do all of this protesting and then they got married and had families and became Conservatives now didn't they they weren't rebelling anymore they became Establishment

I hate to break it to y'all.

But the rambunctious, rebellious, revolutionary is oftentimes because you are an idealistic child and you want the world to be as you imagine it in your dreams.

But what happens is you grow up,

you mature, you've got responsibilities, you got rent to pay, you got bills, your babies that you have to feed.

You don't care about rebelling against the system You got to feed your children

you will become Establishment so miss me with this whole old anti-establishment stuff At some point everybody grows up everybody matures and everybody wants to preserve and conserve what they built Anybody who's got a house three kids and a family they got to take care of

Ain't nobody, I'm gonna go and I'm gonna rebel.

I'm gonna protest on my job.

No, you're not.

You're just gonna be angry, but you're gonna work and get your 401k and retire.

Take a break, come back.

I'm going to talk to State Senator Dora Drake on the other side.

She's got an announcement to make.

She's running for president.

No, she's not.

Maybe.

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Wisconsin State Senator Dora Drake.

Hey Dora.

How you doing?

There we

go much better.

I'm doing I guess as well as I can be considering we have you know a little something going on a little election going on today in fact is the last day for people to register if you want to vote early so you want to make sure folks

Know about that you serve a very specific capacity not only are you a senator representing Wisconsin's fourth digital You're also the chair of the legislative black caucus.

Yes, so it is your job essentially to make sure that there is a Worthy agenda that of course can not just galvanize other black legislators, but also show improve some opportunities for black voters and black constituents in the state of Wisconsin

And because of that very specific role, you know, it's you're not in the business of picking one Democrat versus another.

Typically,

you know, try to stay out of racist of this magnitude, just because, you know, early on, all these folks have been in the, you know, that we're running for governor or friends of mine.

I've seen them work in different capacities.

But I will say that changed when I watched the debate like many others.

And so before that reason.

After watching the debate, I have decided to endorse our county executive, David Crawley, for a couple reasons.

One, he is someone that has the receipts of what it means to get stuff done, right?

He served on the legislator prior before I even got to the legislator, was able to get some legislation pieces forward, but he is the only person that has the experience of delivering as an executive, right?

Whether we're talking about addressing public safety.

you know, resources for county, you know, services, the whole nine, affordable healthcare, things that Democrats are championing and want to push forward.

I want someone that's going to deliver results versus just stating, you know, what political platitudes they may do.

And the reality is that, you know, as chair of the Legislative Black Caucus, there are nuances when it comes to certain policies that impact black and brown families and their children.

I believe that he's the only one that is able to navigate that.

while also trying to get things done, able to defeat Dom Tiffany in November, and be able to govern on day one.

And that's what Wisconsin needs.

We need someone that's focused.

I wouldn't move to move our state forward, especially in a very tumultuous political climate, but still recognizes that people at the end of the day want things done.

They want to make sure that they can afford their homes.

They want to make sure they can get their, that they're paid well.

All these things are basic needs that I believe has gone.

so far off because of all the attacks of Republicans are trying to distract voters

from

focusing on August 11.

I want to point out how rare and unique this moment is because someone who is a current legislator, rare do they endorse someone in a primary, but also even more rare is the incumbent Democratic governor has recently put his support behind David Crowley.

Senator Drake your thoughts on that cuz that cuz Tony Evers is not known to be like an overly political guy.

He probably know

He is very much someone that is just focused on gang things and and everything's I've disagreed with the governor on the past right but at his core He is someone that really wants to move Wisconsin forward.

I do think with him endorsing David Crawley is unprecedented and I think it caught a lot of folks off-guard and I know there's whole argument about the establishment candidate

The reality is that David's background speaks for himself.

You know, he grew up in the 5326.

Right here in Milwaukee, he knows what it means to move out and be able to do amazing things and still lead in spite of what's happened.

I, for our governor to come out and endorse him unlike him, means that he sees something in David that our state needs.

And so yes, this is a very unusual primary that is.

happened over, you know, this, you know, time frame, but I think it speaks to the urgency of where Wisconsin will go forward, given who our nominee will be in August.

Put you in a bit of a sticky situation because when you were in the assembly, Francesca Hong was also in the assembly.

You and her were colleagues.

So I'm sure you got to know her.

Yeah, you're now colleagues with state Senator Kel DeRoy.

Right.

But you you're endorsed and the both of them are running for governor, but then you're endorsing David.

Any word from them?

Did they respond at all

or?

You know, one of them did.

I mean, obviously you would want your colleagues to support them.

I think there's regular discipline that might come with that.

And to their credit, like I said, I've never just credited the work that either of them, you know, with Francesca Hong, she is compassionate.

That is something that's true of her and how she went about her work in the assembly with Senator Rui.

She is very well knowledgeable of the issues.

But knowing that we need someone that has a legislative experience.

that has delivered and can govern.

Davis is the one that fits the criteria.

Former, well, former candidate, but current Lieutenant Governor Sarah Rodriguez, she was running.

Then she wasn't.

Then David Crowley dropped out and he was going to put his support behind her.

So you just watching the race from afar.

What were your thoughts on that because it did show a level of inconsistency and then David gets back in the race.

Do you think that that does that hurt this campaign at all?

gosh, I will say this.

I think folks were shocked about the news with lieutenant governor's news and why she dropped out and it's unfortunate because frankly, you know, I would hate to see anyone be put in that position itself on the flip side, you know, I think probably

you know, David Carly made a decision.

I'm trying to make sure like whoever is going to be the best to win.

In that, I think the reason why he got back in the race is because he had so many folks from the community reach out and say, please get back in.

That is unusual when you hear folks from your very own community and out there, you know, supporters saying,

We know they stepped up, but we think you still have a chance.

And I think that speaks to leadership that's called to something greater versus you believing that you can do something yourself.

Because

now you have an established credibility in various areas of Wisconsin.

And I think because that happened for David Crawley, I think that there is a chance that he will win on August 11.

Mandela was in the race too.

He's not anymore.

Any thoughts,

you know, um, I gotta ask.

know

where you at door.

No, I know.

Um, I will say with Mandela, you know, he ran for a U. S. Senate, you know, a couple of years ago and he was so close

to winning.

Was

that a mistake for him to run hindsight being 2020?

I think he probably should have been our state as a lieutenant governor personally because he would have been able to run for governor.

There'd be no primary if Mandela was a lieutenant governor.

Would you agree with that?

You think anybody will primary him?

Of course, of course, folks are

primary.

People are people primary folks all the time.

I can't say that.

I don't even know if Francesca would have primaried him because imagine if he's the heir apparent.

Tony ever says he's not running again in 2025.

Mandela is still a lieutenant governor.

He never quit that position to run for Senate.

Let's imagine that never happened.

Mandela, of course, has got the momentum in his back.

He's been a lieutenant governor for for two terms.

If Francesca entered that race, then the

the relationship between the two of them would have been that entire contest.

And I don't think that she would have jumped in the primary.

However, I could be wrong, but neither here nor there.

So did Mandela?

You think you brought any value to the race?

And where do his supporters go if you had to guess?

If you're a Mandela person, who do you think that they would now support?

Well, you know, a lot of Mandela's following her folks that were progressive, you know, but I also know that they also.

understand some of those nuances of the things I've mentioned on how policy can impact Black and Brown folks

differently.

So I think it'll be an interesting mix to see folks move either probably towards Crawley or Francesca Hong.

But I do think that in the upcoming days ahead, it's a matter of I'm just getting the vote out.

So I, you know, having made an assumption here.

But I would hope that some of those supporters of Mandela would, you know, hopefully transfer over to Crawley.

If they haven't voted already, because that's obviously another dynamic too, some folks are recast of their ballot and their candidate is no longer in the race anymore.

And I know that some folks have been frustrated with that, right?

And it doesn't help that our courts upheld the decision where folks can't spoil their ballot in order to select someone new that is still actually in the race.

What would you say are?

The top issues on voters minds and you not you don't just travel in the fourth senator So you actually travel all over the state and when you hear from people What do you think is top of mind right now?

I think the top of

mind

really is affordability issues

and that's

something that David Carly has talked about extensively You know there is a dire need to figure out how to address housing You know housing is a top issue where folks can't afford rent or they're trying to become a homeowner

that

something that we're increasingly seeing.

There's a large issue on just being able to pay for your basic needs.

So I know that there's a need for union jobs, increase the minimum wage.

Those have been things that have been talked about multiple times.

There is a conversation of data centers.

That is something that a lot of folks have been paying attention to because of what's happening in these hyperscale AI data centers in different parts of the state.

And in that, you have folks that want to focus on ensuring that there are job opportunities that are union based, but also that the environment is protected and that local control is respected.

I think all those things are completely valid.

And I think knowing that David has a unique perspective of what it means to govern, what it means to hear all the stakeholders at hand.

how to do it responsibly where it still protects citizens, everyday people, while still hopefully providing opportunity for folks to actually provide jobs.

Because we know if you don't have jobs, you don't have folks that can cover their bills.

And then with that, our economy drops and then everything starts to go to wire.

We are speaking with State Senator Dora Drake, who represents the fourth state Senate district.

She is also the chair of the legislative Black Caucus.

We're going to take a break when we come back.

We're gonna talk about this thing that has just been looming over this race Probably probably unlike any other issue that I've heard and it's this thing called the establishment.

We're gonna talk about what the establishment is why it has been so Demonized and what impact it can have on the race that also should be noted that state Senator Dora Drake is endorsing and supporting David Crowley for governor We're listening to the truth with Sherwin Hughes myself and the senator will be right back

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Welcome back the program in studio Wisconsin State Senator Dora Drake.

She is Announcing her support her endorsement of Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley for governor, which is a very unusual and unprecedented thing to do because as the chair of the Legislative of Black Caucus like you have a legislative role to make sure that we have good policy and that agendas are

right where they need to be.

But for you to get in this race and endorse must say an awful lot about David Crawley, right?

Absolutely.

And I will say this because, you know, I have the pleasure of working with David Crawley in that capacity, right?

There have been things that he and his team has come to myself and several legislators on what Milwaukee needs from the state.

And it's no surprise that Wisconsin currently is under Republican majority leadership.

And if anyone knows the trouble and the blocks that comes with trying to push legislation forward to just get dollars and resources to Malkin County and folks here in general, it is a mountain decline in that I've been able to see and witness how he has been strategic.

He has been always forefront of what his priorities are and being able to get resources through the finish line.

That is a certain level of skill that requires more than just

you know, yelling about what the issues are at.

That takes relationship building.

That takes tactic.

That takes strategy in order to get things done.

And frankly, I would rather have someone be our governor that can do that, especially in a time when our current governor and our AG were really the front lines of preventing a lot of harm to happen to Wisconsin from the Trump administration.

You need someone that can navigate all those pieces while still moving Wisconsin forward and delivering on

policies and things that Democrats have championed for years.

When you found out that the Wisconsin State Supreme Court, a liberal court, by the way, voted seven to nothing to basically take away a minority scholarship.

Your thoughts on that because I know that you have a personal connection with that scholarship And also what does that say in general about where our politics in Wisconsin are going?

Oh,

I'll be frank.

Oh, yeah, I saw your Your press release and you were not a happy camper.

No, I wasn't I found out literally actually while I was just ending a press release press conference for a great organization I'm in the cannon house.

I was focused on opening a food Kitchen for the community.

That's when I found out right after that conference

I was flabbergasted that we are here to this point, but not completely because this is why.

And one reason why the legislative black caucus went on state tours last year and announced their policy agenda this year was to make sure that there's accountability issue.

One, because I do believe that black voters are so tired of showing up for Democrats while getting very little for their vote.

And that is real because we have been the backbone of the Democratic Party.

We continue to show up and frankly, Black vote turnout is what keeps our base strong here in Wisconsin specifically.

The fact that we are in a time where federally we are seeing our voting rights act completely decimated and the affirmative action, you know, overturned as well, there is not a desire to, um, the courts aren't supporting it.

And it's gone to the point where.

even if you're showing that the facts are there, that that's not even enough to be held in court.

That's the dynamic that we're dealing with right now.

And so when we talk about who's gonna be our next governor, it really dictates the trajectory of where the party's gonna be moving forward.

You need someone that is going to obviously stand for democratic values, deliver on a lot of progressive policies that we've been fighting for years, as well as uplifting

Those are most disadvantaged.

Those two are not separate.

They're simultaneous.

And I do believe that too often.

Unfortunately, you have some folks, well intentioned, that are trying to push for progressive agendas.

But if you're not prioritizing black and brown issues at the core of that, you're missing the mark.

And that's where I do believe black voters are really caught in this middle spot of

We know Tom Tiffany is going to do horrible damage because of what he's done already at the federal level.

But we need someone as our governor nominee and who could defeat Tom Tiffany to actually move our state forward, especially in a state where we're still dealing with the highest disparities for black folks in all different capacities.

Do you believe that the candidate who has been leading in the polls in this primary has prioritized?

African-American issues and I say that because we have seen a liberal state Supreme Court overturn a minority scholarship We have a conservative law firm that is suing to end the supplier diversity program Which is something that the state of Wisconsin has never met as far as getting a certain number of minority owned businesses opportunities to Get contracts with the state and then we have this referendum if all the other things were not Insulting enough to add insults and injury

There's a referendum on the ballot in November.

Do you believe that the leading candidate has prioritized those things to the level where we could feel comfortable in supporting her?

I don't believe so and this is why.

You know, I do believe that there needs to be accountability on a lot of the things that she's talking about, right?

You know, there should be some sort.

Well, she wants a moratorium on data centers.

I think that there needs to be a little bit more discussion about that because folks need jobs and in that that sort of speaks to the need for the

highest black unemployment right here, you know, and how we can address that.

I do think that in her goal of trying to move our state forward, that sometimes you're missing

on the basics

of, you know, the issues that we're still fighting

for,

like literacy, making sure that children can still

read and

write.

What does it mean for the achievement gap?

Yes, we need to address our public schools.

That is the reality.

However,

There's a lot of constituents of mine that do go to alternative schools.

And so the conversation needs to be focused on what does education look like to provide quality education that's fully funded in order to ensure that every child gets what they need.

And that is something that is nuanced in the policies and what I refer to.

And so for that reason, I do believe that her campaign strives to do that.

But if you're not aware of the nuances,

then you're going to miss the mark regardless if you meant well intentions or not.

Senator Drake, where did this whole establishment conversation come from?

I come to find out that I'm establishment.

I went to bed one night and I was sure when I woke up the next morning, I apparently was establishment.

You're establishment and David Crowley is establishment and Governor Tony Evers is establishment.

Where did that come from?

What does that mean?

David Crowley actually said something that was posted on social media that he took offense to being called

quote unquote establishment because he grew up in a rough zip code.

He had to work very hard to get to where he was.

What is this whole establishment thing about?

You know, so my personal thoughts, I think it's just jealousy if I can just call it out for what it is.

But I do think on the flip side of it, it's folks believing that you have high end donors, you know, folks that are have a lot of influence of power within the Democratic Party, stating who they want to be the nominee.

And I think David has been called that because Governor Evers did endorse him as well as a slew of other local and state electives that have come following supporting him.

I think what folks are miss, well, and to add to that, you know, I know Congresswoman Glenn Moore has endorsed him as well as the Congressional Black Caucus and that I do believe that there is a distinction.

And I sort of spoke to it a little bit earlier where, you know, David.

Soul decision to get back in the race.

I really do believe us because people called him to get back in that's different You know, it was people in the community that believed in his leadership believe that in the six years of governing that he can do more for Wisconsin Currently, you know more than he has his account

exact right now

and in that I do do believe that there's this mix back of who's the establishment because if you look at say Francesca Hong she has other

National leaders that are endorsing her you have um rep congresswoman

Bernie isn't though that should be noted Bernie is like nah

He is not I just see that he's not getting involved, but she has other national politicals and Congress individuals that are supporting her and technically they're part of the establishment too and so I think it's a matter of I don't understand where the Establishment really is coming from except

This is the only thing that they can say about him and why he shouldn't be governor

I sometimes wonder and I go back and forth on this is is her campaign more about beating and bludgeoning the establishment

of the Democratic Party, the bedrock, the foundation, the

people

that keep the Democratic Party honest and focused on the issues that make Democrats what they are, is the focus on diminishing them?

Or is the focus on actually beating Tom Tiffany?

Because you are not going to be able to do both.

You're not going to diminish the bedrock and the foundation, including the part of the Democratic Party that gives money.

I don't know if you can if you can diminish them and make them feel less than and make them feel like they are part of the problem.

When the real problem is Tom Tiffany and Trumpism.

So I just I'm trying to figure out how somebody squares that circle of bludgeoning, disrespecting and demeaning actual Democrats.

That is the party that she is running with, essentially.

How do you bludgeon those people and disrespect them want to join their party, be their nominee, but then also try and be.

Tom Tiffany.

So I just think that the whole establishment thing is, is a bit of a distraction.

We're gonna take a break, come back.

State Senator Dora Drake is here.

She's got some news for y'all.

She's running for probably re-elected to the Wisconsin State Senate.

She's also supporting and endorsing Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley and she is in good company and doing so.

Congresswoman Gwen Moore is endorsing and also Wisconsin Governor Tony Evers.

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Welcome

back to the program in studio, Wisconsin State Senator Dora Drake.

She is supporting and endorsing Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley for governor.

You've got a very unique role, Dora.

Not only you chair of the Black Legislative Caucus, you also are a member of the Wisconsin State Senate.

You guys are just on the cusp.

getting a Democratic majority in the Senate and it is possible that there could be a Democratic majority in the Assembly something we haven't seen in a very long time talk about the importance of making sure that there's a Democratic majority in both houses and how that can make legislation

Fly through a little bit easier.

Absolutely.

So one, you know, I am serving as the vice caucus chair for the Senate Dems.

And when I tell you that because we do have fair maps that we have candidates, amazing candidates that are currently running and we know that they will win their elections.

And in that, we've been doing our part in trying to get support for them as well.

What happens with the Legislator and the Senate and the Assembly will dictate how far Wisconsin can move forward and who our Governor nominee is.

Right now, we know that in the Senate, we are confident that we will get the majority.

But the ultimate goal is to get that trifecta because the reality is, if there is a scenario where our Governor is Tom Tiffany and you have divided government or divide Legislator where he's Democrat.

you will be in a situation where we are introducing policy after policy, focusing on healthcare, focusing on jobs, things that Democrats have been wanting for years, protections, you know, for folks, because we have to do that too.

And it will be vetoed by the governor if it is Tom Tiffany every single time.

On top of that, the governor can do executive orders and call for different, you know, special sessions.

So what we currently have been dealing with,

with a Republican legislator that has tried to push so many things forward.

We've been able to have that blocked because Governor Evers was our governor.

If it is those flip way around, that means that we cannot deliver the way that we want to for Wisconsinites.

And so the importance of having someone as a nominee that can be Tom Tiffany and Governor on day one.

will also impact the ability for Senate Democrats and assembly assembly Democrats to move the needle forward for Wisconsin, which is why this nominee election is so key.

And so I know that there are folks are still undecided in the polls.

I do think that there is still an opportunity for folks to make a decision and to come out and vote.

And that's one thing that I do want to highlight because it is GeoTV weekend, y'all.

And we know that this is the time to get votes turned out.

And so.

Team Crawley and his campaign is having a statewide tour where they are getting the vote out.

And so you can RSVP at crawley4wi.com slash events.

And you can register to do doors and to get out the vote.

They have some in Sheboygan, Green Bay, Wausau, Eau Claire, Madison, Green Bay, Milwaukee.

They're covering all parts of the state, y'all.

And so if you're wondering how can I get plugged in?

RCP and get the vote out whether that's door knocking or phone banking because we know that Democrats always deliver when it comes to Voting and this is our opportunity to ensure that we have David Crawley be our nominee for governor Senator.

What is that website one more time?

It is Crawley for wi hold on hold on Crawley for wi.com slash events and then that way you can RCP and sign up for shifts in order to do doors phone banking

whatever we need to do to get the vote out and push for David Crawley to be our next governor.

In the event that he wins the contest on August 11, do you believe that he could assist, especially in some of those areas that might be a little more red or a little more purple, legislative districts outstate, do you think that he can campaign credibly and legitimately to help turn some of those

Red assembly districts and Senate districts blue because whoever's top of the ticket whether it's him or whether the person who's leading in the polls They have got to make sure that they've got a democratic majority Do you think that David is more credible and helping get a democratic legislative majority than she is?

I think she is for it or I think he is for this reason because again He knows how to work across the aisle, you know when he wasn't a legislator

and

he was able to

to talk to Speaker Voss.

Speaker Voss said it was it on arrival and was able to push legislation for Milwaukee County, which is Act 12.

He is able to do the work.

And so because David's story and what he's accomplished and what he aims to do for Wisconsin is rooted in fact, as well as focus, I believe that he can inspire folks to get involved and turn some of those purple districts to blue in November.

United in faith grounded in hope today.

Well was from 9 a.m.

Until 11 a.m.

Today from noon until 2 p.m.

There's a Sheboygan meet and greet with David Crowley There's going to be a Green Bay rally with David Crowley and Governor Tony Evers from 5 until 7 p.m.

Then from 7 30 until 9 30.

There's a door County meet and greet with David.

How are you David?

How are you doing all this?

What else is there going on this weekend?

There's a Sean O Dems meet and greet that is tomorrow August 8th from 10 a.m.

Until 12 p.m.

Then also tomorrow.

There's a Warsaw rally with David Crowley and Governor Tony even Tony even

Oh man, he gonna be out there putting in some shoe leather and then on Saturday from four until six.

There's an Eau Claire Democratic Party meet and greet at shift coffee.

If you happen to be in Eau Claire, uh, David Crowley will be there for a meet and greet.

And then on Sunday, there will be a lacrosse rally with David Crowley and Governor Tony Evers.

from 10 a.m.

until 12 p.m.

And then the Viroqua Dems are having a meet and greet also on Sunday from 12 30 until 2 30 and it looks like this whole thing is getting capped off right in Francesca's backyard on Sunday August 9th from 5 until 7 p.m.

A Madison rally with David Crowley and Governor Tony Evers was a whole unknown.

There's more on Monday.

There's a Milwaukee rally.

with David Crowley and Governor Tony Evers.

Join David Crowley with special guests Tony Evers and Milwaukee on Monday, August 10th at 5.30.

Addresses will be sent to the RSVPs the day before the event.

So there's a whole host of things going on.

Dora, people got to get out and get motivated and get fired up.

Do you think that they can do with this last stretch?

I think

it's possible.

We've seen Wisconsin.

This primary has been far from normal.

And if anything, I think.

Hopefully, future First Lady, Erica Crawley, said it best.

You know, they're running on faith.

And I believe because of their faith, their dedication and the work that Crawley and his supporters are doing, especially with the support of Governor Evers, that he can cross the finish line.

And I will say this, because again, I just really want folks to understand.

He is the only candidate that has had experience within the legislator and has had executive experience with six years of receipts to show that he's done the work, whether it's creating jobs.

lowering taxes, expanding affordable housing, funding public safety, lowering drug overdose deaths, and expanding mental health care.

Those are priorities that Wisconsin desperately needs.

Those are priorities that Wisconsin Democrats have been pushing and desiring to deliver for years.

And we have the opportunity to all come together to defeat Tom Tiffany and govern on day one to deliver for Wisconsin.

But we need to do that by getting David Crawley over the finish line on August 11.

Is there some concern that because this primary has been we've stated a million and one times and I can't state state enough Very unusual and very unconventional and actually it's been quite divided because it seems that the Hong supporters are Let's just say they're very passionate.

They're passionate to the point of almost disrespect

You think

it'll be difficult for the Democrats to come together behind whoever the nominee is and then change the focus from

beating up on one another and trying to call somebody establishment and somebody this or somebody that and then turning the focus to Tom Tiffany because right now Tom Tiffany does not have a primary where he's getting beat up from another Republican opponent.

So he's kind of sailing through all of this.

What do you think is necessary for Democrats to come together and see what the ultimate prize is in November and has to beat Tom Tiffany?

Yeah, I do think that, you know, regardless of what happens with the election on August 11th.

There has to be a conversation of being focused to defame Tom Tiffany.

I think the reality is to your point, some of my friends' supporters have been very passionate to the point where it has been disrespectful.

I will say that.

And that has left a sour taste in many supporters of Crawley in that I believe we recognize what is at stake if we do not beat Tom Tiffany in November.

And just for folks to know.

like Tom Tiffany was one of the folks that actively voted to not verify the 2020 election.

He's someone that has consistently voted against Wisconsin interests.

We cannot have someone like Tom Tiffany be our governor.

And in that, I hope that there is a come to Jesus moment, so to speak, where at the end of the day, we know what the goal is and that we ensure that some of the priorities that I know I've mentioned I have concerns about

are addressed and moving forward because we cannot allow Tom Tiffany to be our next governor.

You don't believe in Juneteenth Day.

That

part.

That's terrible.

You got to believe in the freedom

of the

black people and was in the state of Wisconsin where we had the longest celebration here right here in Milwaukee and on the north part of the district where I get to have the parade on that side of town.

Those are just things that again, whoever the nominee is.

Knowing that as Democrats, we have to be Tom Tiffany, but recognizing, especially a share of the Black Caucus, there are priorities that Black voters will no longer just stand by and you cannot ignore what those concerns are.

Should you be

the next governor of Wisconsin?

Wisconsin State Senator Dora Drake, thank you for hanging out with us.

Always a pleasure to talk to you.

And I think that you did the county executives some good because a lot of folks, they were undecided, but then they listened to the show today.

Dora Drake is endorsing David Crowley.

Well, I am undecided no more.

They were just waiting for you, Senator, to get off the sidelines.

And now that you are supporting and endorsing David Crowley, well, I think that that's probably going to do it for David.

Now he's going to go on and be president of the university.

Yeah, well, let's hope so.

But it's all hands on deck from here.

And folks know that.

So sign up.

Go ahead and meet Crowley if you're still undecided.

If you're in those areas that Sherwin mentioned.

but ultimately make sure you bring five other people to the polls with you if you have not really voted

already.

Thank you guys for listening.

The lunch break with Ray Nitty and maybe Shannon is up next.

He turns the dark into blazing bright.

Boom, ping, ping.

The truth takes wing.

We'll walk his voice, let the city sing.

the program today is Friday.

You made it to August 7th, 2026.

Couple of things today is the last day to register to vote.

If you are going to cast an early voting ballot at one of the different sites we have throughout the city of Milwaukee, you still can register to vote on election day, which is Tuesday, August 11.

If you plan on voting early, though, today is the last day in which you can register.

And if I'm not mistaken, today must be the last day of early in person voting at the sites that we have in the city of Milwaukee.

I'm going to go through a listing of the sites just so you have it top of mind.

The Good Hope Library, the hours are from 12 30 until 7 30.

The Midtown Voting Center at 4170 North 56th Street from 830 until 530 are their hours of operation.

The Tippy Canoe Library, 3912 South Howell Avenue, their hours are 1230 until 730.

Of course, the good old Washington Park Senior Center, 4420 West Bleat, 9am until 4pm.

These are block library 35th in Oklahoma from 12 30 until 7 30 and the Zidler municipal building from 9 a.m.

Until 6 p.m.

So today is the last day in which you will be able to register also at 11 a.m.

I will be joined by the chair of the legislative black caucus and the senator representing the good people of the 4th Senate district Dora Drake

is going to be in studio with us and she is going to share her thoughts on why she is endorsing David Crowley to be the next governor of the state of Wisconsin and I find it a little unusual and the timing is odd but the timing of this entire election cycle has been odd.

Everything has just been late or misaligned.

And some things just didn't really make any sense, like the timeline of some of the candidates, when they decided to get in the race, when they decided to get out of the race.

But the most perplexing thing is the number of people that are still in the race.

But it also is not customary for an incumbent Democrat.

That's why the Tony Evers endorsement of David Crowley is so unique.

It isn't often that an incumbent Democrat endorses.

One Democrat over another in a primary primaries are for primary voters to decide based upon whatever the issues are whatever the Sentiment is about politics at the time, but also most importantly the strength of the campaign to gain momentum Primary voters make that decision they narrow down very crowded fields and if you can recall any other election, especially when

There are much discussed primary elections.

Look at presidential primaries.

They're insane.

They're very crowded.

You have a bunch of different ideas that are represented.

Some are mainstream, some are middle of the road and moderate.

Some are absolutely insane, completely and totally off the wall.

And I can remind you of the year 2016.

I brought up the year 2016 a lot because so many things happened then a decade ago that

are very relatable to what is happening right now.

I think most folks, if you're just getting involved in politics or you recently started following it, it doesn't make any sense.

And if you feel that way, I completely and totally understand why this makes zero sense to you.

It oftentimes defies logic.

So that is why looking backwards and seeing, okay, where have we been in a similar situation before?

And then using that retrospective.

to apply some logic to today.

It's not always 100 percent, but.

It gives a pretty decent indication because for the most part, Americans and dare I say, even Wisconsinites are relatively predictable when the climate exists in a particular way.

I go to the presidential contest in 2016, where the Republicans were completely discombobulated.

You got to keep in mind they had not won.

a national election in two presidential cycles.

That means that your party, at least at the national level, is ineffective.

And so they had to go back to the drawing board the Republican party did.

They didn't know what Republican voters wanted.

Republican voters were either staying home

or they were switching party, something unusual was going on that allowed for Barack Obama to get elected not once but twice.

There are also some cultural elements as well.

If you are even the slightest bit familiar with the United States of America, race does play a role in a lot of stuff, dare I say almost everything.

So not only can the Republicans, this is back then, not only could they not win.

in national contest, two presidential elections in a row, a very unlikely person based on America's history got elected and got re-elected.

that told the Republican Party that they had to go completely back to the drawing board and start from scratch.

And that's why you had a Republican presidential primary that was really, really crowded.

I think there may have been 15, 16, even 17 people.

Their primary was so crowded that when they had debates, they had to schedule them on two consecutive nights, which can't fit everybody on the stage.

Some of them are fat and took up a lot of stage.

Chris Christie took up a Trump's fat too.

Now he is.

He's a fat boy.

He loves eating McDonald's, but he balances it out with Diet Coke's.

There were so many Republicans running that they had to have their debates on two separate nights because there was too many fat people and just too many people in general.

To the show that their party was discombobulated and they didn't know which direction they were gonna go in they had to try something so you have a crowded primary in Wisconsin We have a crowded primary too Because the Democratic Party does not know as a response to Trump nationally

The Democratic Party does not know what it needs to do.

Kamala Harris lost in 2024, so that means whatever Democratic politics was, whatever Democratic campaigns were, at least in the state of Wisconsin, we don't know what sticks to the wall.

And that's why you had a whole bunch of people throwing their hat in the ring to run for governor, just like you had a whole bunch of people through their hat in the ring to run for president in 2016.

Here is where you need to be particularly cautious, and this is where 2016 and 2026 will diverge quickly.

When you have a large group of people running for office in a primary in a Very well studied and Watched election cycle like 2016 was and like 2026 is because this is the first midterm election Since Donald Trump won the presidency in 2024

In 2016, you had two terms of Democrat Barack Obama.

The Republicans had to go back to the drawing board and they had everybody in their mother that was running for the presidency, or at least vying for the Republican nomination, you see, when you have a crowded field.

This part is true.

The craziest ideas win.

Far too many Republicans in 2016 were splitting the common sense vote.

They were splitting the traditional Republican family values vote They were they were splitting the what people thought Republican candidates for presidents should be Donald Trump came in and he was insane Here's the thing about people that are insane that are also registered to vote and I don't necessarily like that ratio of sanity To voting participation because it'll screw everything up.

It'll gum up the works

The people that were supporting Donald Trump knowing who he was now we got to know him better They were not gonna be moved by any of those other status quo regular boring run-of-the-mill Republicans even if they were very conservative even if they were much more moderate they wanted something that was new and revolutionary and evolutionary and Donald Trump was a Outsider and he was gonna drain the swamp

And he was going to deport all of the illegals and he was going to stop the foreign wars.

He's a businessman and we were going to get the economy going again.

First lie he told, second actually, first one was Barack Obama wasn't a citizen.

The next one was the economy was not working well.

We went from...

A bankrupt nation in a recession, housing foreclosure crisis, two wars, banks weren't lending, her automakers were going belly up.

We went from that to breaking records on the stock market and everybody had health insurance.

Donald Trump lied and convinced his crazy followers that the economy was bad because it was bad for them.

Poor sad white folks that couldn't find a footing even in a good economy They were desperate and Donald Trump was promising them something these people were insane and yes I will call people in this country insane because some of you are I can tell by the output of your decisions I could even tell by how some of y'all dressed that you're crazy You ever see somebody to wear stripes and polka dots and then and then a hat and then earrings that don't match And there's this thing that the kids do the kids do a thing

I don't know if they still do the thing.

Maybe they still do the thing.

I actually don't even really care, but I noticed the thing that the kids do.

They'll wear two shoes that don't even match.

What's wrong with you?

Were you not loved?

And here's something else that they do.

We're starting hot today.

There were socks that don't match.

I can't do that.

I can't put on two socks that don't match.

You know, it feels like when I'm wearing two socks that don't match, maybe it's not traumatized as a child, but my socks have to match.

The kids nowadays, they don't even care if their socks match.

You know, when you tie a shoe, let's say you're walking, mind your own business.

You're doing what you do.

I don't know.

Maybe you're looking for drugs.

I don't know what you're doing.

I'm not asking you what you're doing.

You're just walking.

And then you notice, oh, one of your shoes is untied.

And you say, oh, I don't want to trip.

I don't want to fall.

I'm gonna stop, I'm gonna tie my shoe, okay?

And you tie it, and it's freshly tied and it's tight.

It's a tight fit, it's a tight, nice little bow.

But your other shoe that wasn't untied, it's a little bit looser, because remember you just tied your left shoe, because that shoelace came untied, but you didn't tie the right shoe, because why would you, because it was already tied.

When I wear socks that don't match, it feels like one shoelace is tighter than the other.

Is this just me?

Maybe it is.

Thank you for saying it's just me Xavier.

A lot of what I'm going to say today is just me stuff.

No, I was confirming that it's insane.

Oh, thank you.

A confirmation of something I said.

When you have a very crowded field and you have a political party that does not know which direction it's going to go in, the Democrats right now in the state of Wisconsin do not know what direction they're going to go in.

Because it seemed to us, at least in the state of Wisconsin, I can't speak for other states, battleground states and the rest of the nation.

But we thought that the Kamala Harris campaign in the state of Wisconsin was one that was going to work.

We maybe discounted or over index for her gender and her race.

Maybe we did.

Maybe we didn't.

Maybe we under indexed the impact of the transgender issue and girls and boys bathrooms and.

boys playing on girls sports teams.

Maybe we overlook some of that stuff.

But what it told the Democrats is that a very well funded campaign with a charismatic candidate.

Now there was some there was some back and forth in the.

2024 presidential race, just like we had some back and forth here in Wisconsin's governor's race, right?

Was Joe Biden gonna stay in the race?

Was he gonna get out?

Was Joe Biden gonna run for a second term?

Do you remember that back and forth?

Also very similar to the back and forth that we've seen here in Wisconsin.

It is also reflective of a party that does not know what direction to go in.

Joe Biden was a stopgap to prevent Donald Trump from getting reelected in 2020 because you had everything coming to a head.

We had an economy that was messed up by COVID.

You had COVID itself.

You had the argument over vaccines and the anti-vaxxer movement and the suburbs that are more conservative, wanting to open in the cities that kept everything closed.

The kids weren't in school anymore.

You had the whole impact of George Floyd.

There was literal social and health and medical turmoil going on in the country.

Joe Biden was seen as a safe, reliable stopgap.

Nobody really loved him nobody got excited about him But it was a way in which we could get the country back on some kind of sane footing and then we would move forward But Joe Biden was not the answer because he could not be the future of the Democratic Party because Joe Biden is 497 years old Joe Biden slaves probably don't even know that they're free yet.

It's how old he is, okay And then you had all the back and forth was he gonna run again, and then he had the debate remember the debate reads

lost his mind the Medicare and then everybody thought that he had a stroke thought that he was just too old they thought he had dementia do you know what that actually was and I feel bad because I participated in the course of

saying very unflattering things about Joe Biden.

Because I knew what was at stake.

It was so bad.

Do you remember how bad he gaffed during that debate?

That

was crazy.

I was literally cringing the whole time.

Oh, it was so bad.

I was like, oh, it's over now.

It was so bad that Donald Trump didn't even... Donald Trump was like, oh, I'm not even going to touch that.

Yeah.

He mentioned, Trump was just like...

Yeah, I'm not really sure what he said and then Trump because you know Trump is gonna take a jab at you but Trump was like oh my god What did I just witness and Trump just went off?

He eventually but here's the thing a month later He dropped out and then of course Were quote-unquote stuck with Kamala and the Wisconsin race for governor

Sarah Rodriguez was in she dropped out David Crowley was in he dropped out he got back in the race Mandela got in the race in the first place He stayed in too long then Mandela gets out.

I don't know a week ago

because there was scandal broiling, and then you have Francesca Hong.

Similar to Donald Trump, her path has always been clear because her voters don't fit into the categories that are offered by the other candidates.

So 2016 offers a pathway for the least likely candidate, because oftentimes their pathway and the voters that they can entice will not vote in support for anybody else because they are just as insane as the candidates themselves.