5/4/26 7PM: McKinley Marina Racism

This is the Truth Unfilver with Denise Thomas and Dr. Ken Harris.

You know, there's this cliche that we often hear,

keep the lights on. We got it. We got to keep the lights on.

And to have this be a literal, precise and relevant question being,

how do you keep the lights on when the protections turn off? That's a real big question.

We keep putting, we keep bypassing local leaders who are supposed to do things like

make sure we are safe, make sure that business is good,

make sure we don't have potholes in the street, make sure that the leaves aren't in the drain,

so that we get flooding, pick up our garbage. All that's the, all the issues we have in the walk

are not getting done because everybody's brain is stuck on trunk. When are we going to get it done?

Live at the Avenue. Here's Denise Thomas and Dr. Ken Harris.

You're listening, the Truth Unfiltered hour two, six minutes after the hour.

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Again, I want to say thank you to Dr. Reverend Dr. Alex G and Jason feels from the Center

for Black Excellence in Madison, Wisconsin. They're having their event on May 6th

from two to six and you can go to the website, sign up and get in a tour and go and see it.

Very cool. Are you coming to Madison to go to the, to the center?

You know, I wish I could. Dr. Ken, I honestly, if I did not have other things, here's the thing.

You know, I got a big milestone coming up in like two weeks, so I'm on my excursion.

I can't announce this big news, but next week I may have to call into your show to make this

big news announcement. On another reason why I'm not able to be there, but you'll be very excited

and proud once I share this big news. She never includes me in anything she does.

Oh my gosh. She never, she never, she never includes me in anything. Not sure what the big news is,

but she gets her honorable applause anyway.

I'm just glad. Thank you.

Thank you.

That's true, but she's never, but you're the first.

It seems you're a big melancholy.

Okay, can you put me in?

Okay, I'll be quiet.

Okay.

I know.

Okay, all right. I'm done.

Are you finished with the theatrics?

I'm done.

Because you're the first person I even share that I have big news to share.

So that just, you're, you're included.

Is that like somebody telling you, hey, Evan, I got to tell you something, but I'm not going to tell you to Monday.

Okay.

And you're the first person I told that I got somebody to tell somebody.

Like, exactly.

That's excitement.

Oh, I feel so I'm so honored.

No, no, of course, you do so many great things and you do so many things throughout the country

and all that and that other place out there that you talked about in that, you know,

that, that desert place.

I, I, um, I've been trying to get out there for years.

I just haven't had time to go.

I need to be gone for a week and I need to go get some, some, some training for me.

And so yeah, that's, that's pretty powerful.

So congratulations.

We're doing great things.

Hey, thank you.

Yeah, I'm just trying to take over my corner of the world.

It's a big corner.

Well, we won't you lose.

And you know, I've got to say this is really quick, Dr. Ken.

Thank you to all of our loyal and dedicated listeners because I know we've been

experiencing some audio opportunity, their audio challenges.

And again, we are, we are diligently working on solving this.

But in the meantime, thank you for your patience.

I know this is a little bit challenging, but we're going to get this on point.

So again, thank you for your patience and understanding.

And we're just going to beat up all the people that cause it.

So we don't do that.

I'm sorry.

That's the cop coming out of me.

My bad.

I'm sorry.

It's not me causing it.

I'm trying to solve it.

I'm sorry.

No, there's no.

This is the thing where there's no human resource that's responsible.

Technology, as we all know, can either be our best friend or our worst enemy.

So this is definitely those times where technology is not on our side.

No, it is not.

So speaking of being not on our side, one of our teammates, Kyle Wallace,

from 101 Seven the Truth and ESPN,

has a boat and he docks it at the McKinley Marina.

And the past couple, about a couple of weeks ago,

he went to get his boat filled.

And I'm paraphrasing the stories if I get parts of it wrong.

Charge it to my head and not my heart.

And so he was in an effort to get his boat filled.

There's a, from what I understand, there's a policy at the

Marina that a county employee has to fill your boat.

So they have to put the nozzle in and fill it up and blah, blah, blah.

And you get billed and all that stuff.

But then when they went to get it done,

the guy refused to do it.

And basically told him to do it.

Say something black again.

I know you want to say something black again.

I never said it.

Okay, exactly.

I said black fella.

Oh, black fella.

What about black fella?

That's all I said.

Okay.

Hey, you do know the phone calls are recorded with the police, right?

So they heard you saying it.

Yeah.

Okay, I just let you know.

You said you did say it, but I said black fella.

Okay.

I never said it.

And he said, oh, you guys don't do what?

Let's go.

Exactly.

Obviously you said smart.

And so your job is to work for the county.

Your job is to fill stuff up.

So when a person interferes, even if,

even if you don't like each other, right?

Even if you have an animosity,

you don't like, like Denise has towards me.

And I, and I have towards her, right?

For me to argue with Denise, and we argue all the time.

And it's not a, oh, I don't like you.

I hate you argue.

It's a, I want to make my point.

You make your point.

We go back and forth iron sharpens iron.

But if I say it, you know, you women,

that's a direct, but wait a minute, that's an insult.

That like, wait a minute.

So are you, are you insinuating

that not just me, but all women or women you've dealt with

did something or said something.

Therefore, you're putting that on me.

And this guy, they've made complaints to his supervisor,

the department that runs it theirs,

and on up the line, and they've gotten zero

collaboration to the point where they told Kyle,

get, get this.

And Denise out with your background and your training

and your, your, your teaching that you do.

The supervisor said, this employee has freedom of speech.

And he can say what he wants, but he had thoughts on that.

Well, let me start with this.

And I appreciate you, you directing the question in terms of

leadership, as well as just humanity.

About four months ago,

Vice President JD Vance,

third on stage, and he made a surprise visit

during, I think it was a turning point, USA,

convening, and this is again,

I believe December, so about four months ago.

And during his comments,

he stated, and I quote verbatim,

you don't have to apologize for being white anymore.

And for me, I'm filtering that truth was

a translation of, you don't have to

apologize for being racist anymore.

That's what it translated to me.

Now, I don't know what Vice President Vance meant when he said it.

But let me just talk about really quick,

the dangers of any type of supremacist ideology.

And why when you believe based on what you've been conditioned to believe,

what you've been miseducated on is that, or any ideology that promotes

inequality,

it harms, because I know this country was founded on capitalism.

And this country still is a country of capitalism.

So I'll speak in the terms of capitalism.

When you exclude someone based on their identity,

whether that's race, gender, age, sexual orientation, religion,

you are setting up this country to fail, because you're losing talent,

you're losing ideas, and you're losing innovation.

I know certain people are going to say, well, as far as I'm concerned,

the greatest ideas, the greatest inventions were made by white men,

which is fair because, again, the miseducation and the false imaging,

I guarantee you, not based on feelings, but facts.

And Dr. Ken, I'm going to really need you to back me up on this,

because, you know, there's an entire listenership that would much rather hear you say something

than hear it come out of my mouth. But let me just say it is, any major invention

across any industry, I guarantee you, if you research who was all involved,

you are going to find a black person.

That is a 100% money-back guarantee.

And so, again, when you believe the narrative that non-white people are less intelligent,

less competent, less qualified, and should only be doing remedial jobs or jobs that

are behind the scenes, which that's actually, as Dr. Ken brought up, it's not about the

leaders necessarily, it's about the follower. You are rooted in a belief that is going to

literally not only undermine democracy, but harming economic growth and innovation in this country.

And I'll stop with this.

If you think about anything or any place or any experience throughout your

professional and personal trajectory that has brought value, that has brought economic growth

to your life or to your family's life or part of your generational wealth plan,

I promise you that a person of color will all use the term which I don't use for the second

this conversation. Minority was a major factor. Study, do your research, know your history,

because it has, again, when you tell a group of people that you don't have to apologize for being

white anymore, no one asks anybody to apologize based on their identity. That was an underlying

reference to saying that we've dismantled DE&I. We've made it very difficult for black women

because they didn't vote the way that we wanted them to. So you don't have to apologize to being

white. You have to apologize for being supreme or racist. And that's the bottom line of what

why that man had no problem referring to Kyle as a black feller. And that is one of the reasons why

you have municipalities and systems that were curated to serve the public that leveraged this

whole freedom of speech as a safety net versus saying that that was insulting, that was wrong,

and that came from a place of supremacy. And it hurts my heart and it also disappoints me

to know that that was the reaction. When someone who clearly did not want to help another person

based on their world of responsibility only because that Kyle is black. Very disappointing. Very

disappointing. Very much so. When we come back, I want to dive into county politics. I want to dive

into what exactly we're paying for ex-taxpayers. And I want to I want to toss something to Denise about

voting versus paying taxes. You're listening to the truth unfiltered Denise Thomas, Dr.

Ken Harris. We'll be right back. Welcome back to the truth on filtered.

21 minutes after the hour on your host, Dr. Ken Harris along with Denise Thomas, the effective

communication coach. So speaking of communication, I wanted to ask you this because before the break,

we were talking about this issue that Kyle had with Milwaukee County and employee at McKinley Arena.

To which I told him, you should just move your boat, tell everybody else to move their boat.

You got a con on the walk, you got the south end. Just leave. Don't give them any more black money

at all. I know they won't hurt, but it's the county. They'll notice it. This this thing we have,

you know, voting versus tax pay. So we didn't vote for this guy to be an employee,

but our tax dollars pay. And I've always had the argument of people keep up on, well, you know,

if you don't vote, you don't have any power. I said, I don't know, you get the best power you

could possibly have. You pay taxes. They have to listen to you. I paid. And so I think we don't

use that enough and push from that point of view that we need to recognize and realize that we

have way more economic power than than we give ourselves credit for. We think my bank account

gives me economic power, but actually not spending your money is just as powerful. What's a you?

I completely agree. And in particular, you know, you and I, Dr. Kin had talked about the very

well-known Montgomery bus boycott that took place in the 50s, which resulted in the desegregation

of buses in particular. Black people were, you know, allowed, and I so get

disgusted to use that word to utilize the public transportation services. But the boycott,

to your point, was only felt and heard because what Montgomery soon found out is that the majority

of the revenue that was being generated was by black people, black dollars. And so once black

people stopped taking the bus, it was like, wait a minute, hold on. So fast forward, you had the

boycott of target by a large number of black Americans, which resulted in a significant double

digit profit margin gap for loss and the CEO resigning still remaining on the board, but no longer

serving as the chief executive officer. So I say all of that to also remind people that

there is, when you, when you, when you hear the words white supremacy, a lot of people get

not uncomfortable, but dismissive because they associate white supremacy with a group of older

white men wearing white hoods. And that, and that's, that is not what white supremacy means.

White supremacy is bottom lines based on your identity, waking up every day.

And whether you work at, and where was this? The Milwaukee County boat. What was this? The

the, the, the, the, the, the, the, McKenna arena. McKenna arena. What was the guy? What was his position?

What was his role? Um, I don't know what, but he's basically the guy that would, um,

um, that would put gas in your, uh, vehicle with, you know, in your boat. Yep.

So let's just call him the fuel supplier. I'm going to guess, and this is a wild guess,

that, that type of role probably makes anywhere between, and I'm being nice to, I'd say 50 to

75,000 dollars a year, mid to max. Yep. Yep. Which, it's, it's a decent salary,

but I say this to, I say not to say this. You know, Chris, Chris Rock, the comedian,

he made a, a great point. He said, I could be a white man,

both boy, making 25, 30,000 a year. And I would still rather be white than Chris Rock,

who they, 10 times over a millionaire. Yep. And the truth is, is that some people think that

white supremacy is just extreme, and it, it's in your face. And the danger of that is that

it's not extreme, it's not behind a, a white hood or a clueless clan, and it's not historical,

it's current. And what happened to Kyle is, is a perfect example on whose voices now are being

amplified and whose voices are being ignored, because the vice president of the United States of

America stood on a stage in front of 10,000 of people at the attorney point, USA conference

back in December and addressed the nation and said, you don't have to apologize for being white

anymore. I'll tell you this, Dr. Ken, in the 50 or 49.9 years of my life, if you would have told

me that the vice president of the United States of America would literally stand and address

one race of people and say, you don't have to apologize for being white anymore. I would think

you're joking, but that is exactly what he said and who he said it to back in December of just

2025 or four months ago. So again, what happened to Kyle? It's going to continue to happen,

and it's going to continue to be minimized or even erased. And when you don't have the right

information or the truth or the understanding, you're going to continue to make those uninformed

decisions, because that man who referred to Kyle as a black beller, even though he probably,

I mean, that's what he chose for his life and chose a profession. He still sees Kyle as inherently

inferior just based on the fact that he's white and Kyle is black. That is correct. And so how do you,

well, I'm not going to say overcome because you can't overcome a person's heart.

How do you deal with that? And so what would you, because I know you train leadership like me,

what would you expect a leader to do, a supervisor to do to an employee who says,

you know, you basically know, and and let me read it because I got the text and I got the

quote, the guy in the video, a Marina tenant, he he he told us, this is how you black, you Milwaukee

blacks act just like a black feller. And then he also said, you're so effing smart.

He said, what was the last part? You're so effing smart and you can fill in whatever word you want to.

Um, I'm staying um because I'm just calming down before I react. So just give me a second because

being black in America right now, you got to just calm down and regulate your emotions.

I will just say this, if you are a leader of a team, whether your team consists of racial

diversity or not, it is very important that you level set explicitly through your words and your

actions, what is not acceptable. And that includes bias in any decision making, microaggressions,

and any type of behavior that is exclusionary. And that has to be level set from day one.

And from a communications standpoint, this is, this is about performance and culture, not just

the values that are displayed on the wall. So if expectations aren't clear, a count of

accountability won't be either. Very true. Signing a limited WTMJ talk of sex line is a 556161620

time from Sussex. You are on truth and filter.

Hey, how are we doing? Good. How are you?

Good. Good. Good. Good. Let's keep preaching. Um, I mean, people do need to be held accountable,

right? Yes. Ultimately, like, you know, for your actions, just like she said, for your actions,

for your, your thoughts, your beliefs, you know, all that, you gotta be held accountable.

And doing the right thing is just doing the right thing, right? I mean, whether, whether we

build it together or we build it on our own, we build it, you know.

And so, it's so how do we, how do we change that behavior then?

No, no, no, we don't change that behavior. We, we leave by example.

Well, we've been, we've been leading by example for 400 some odd years and it clearly hasn't worked.

In terms of black. Oh, right. And that's why we, that's why we need fathers in the household.

You know, we need, we need strong leaders, but you're, but you're making an assumption that that's

the problem. We, we keep making the assumption that, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, the problem is in their house.

The problem is society. Listen to what I'm asking. We, we, it sounds like you're saying that black

families need a father in the house in order for white people to treat us right.

Number one, I did not, never said that. We just need leaders in the community.

People like you guys to do what you need leaders with a voice that lead by example,

that take people under their wing and frickin teach them, man. But what about, but what about,

what, what do you just teach them what? How to act right? Like, what, what exactly?

No, teach them how to live, teach them how to thrive, teach them how to be better.

Let me say this, let me say this, Tom, and and thank you for your call and thank you for your

question. Because I can definitely hear it through the, the airway that you're, you're passionate about

this. Let me just clarify something. I want to be clear. Racism does not show up in the workplace

from a behavioral standpoint. This, this, this is a systemic effort. And what I mean by that, Tom,

is that this has nothing to do with upbringing, absentee, parents. We're talking about where people

spend the majority of their time, time and that's at work or in school. This is systemic racism.

And what I mean by that is that if, including Milwaukee County, if we don't start holding

leaders accountable for their hiring practices and their promoting practices and evaluating the

processes for consistency and fairness, this will continue. And so I want to be clear, racism

does not just show up in behavior. What we're talking about. And the reason why you called in

is because the Milwaukee County office is not holding their employees accountable. And that has

everything to do with systemic racism, not a behavior. Well said, well said, 855616620 is the

site of unlimited W2MJ tuck and text line. When we come back, I want to, I want to dive into

how do we connect from this point forward with people who don't respond to the needs of a

particular community? Like how do we reach out? I know we've got some more calls coming in. So

how do we as black people reach out and say, Hey, what you're doing is not right. And we

expect you to fix it. My question for Denise is, I want to hear from her what happens when they

don't. You're listening to truth unfiltered. We'll be right back. You're listening to the truth

unfiltered. 37 minutes after the hour on your host Dr. Ken Harris along with the effective

communication coach. Let me see lecturer, author, creative, content creator. Okay, okay,

my list is good and too long. So let me just move on. So, so before the break, we've been talking

about this incident that teammate from Good Karma brands, one on one, seven, the truth is PN Kyle

Wallace had with the county and how he's not getting any movement whatsoever from the county,

from leadership at the top on down to the supervisor. And so I was asking Denise before the break,

and I want to kind of adjust the question I had. Like from this point forward,

how do you deal with people that basically say, Hey, that's just the way it is. And it's not

changing. When JB Vance talked to that crowd, he gave them license to never change, to never

think of other people other than people that look like them. How do we move forward from here?

And by the way, we've got some calls over. Okay, let's take the callers first, but let me just say

that's really quick. Before we hear our callers, you cannot force an adult to change. Trust me,

I've got a lot of ex-boyfriends and I try to change. Listen, you cannot change adults. But you can

absolutely set the standards and conditions that are required. And we come back, or we take our

callers after that, I'll elaborate. All right. Al from Sherman Park, you are on truth and filter.

How's it going? Hey, how you doing, Dr. Ken and Denise? We're doing good. I'm never going to apologize

for being me, whatever color I am. However, the problem here sounds like when he's saying he's

not getting any results from our black county executives or our supervisors of his district,

are they not returning phone calls? And why are we voting for these people over and over again?

If that's case. Well, that's why I brought up voting earlier. But what are your thoughts? What's

your answer, Denise? I'm going to say this. Pressure. I have to peer in person. You go down there

and peer in person. If that's important to you enough. I'm pretty sure there's probably a union

employee. So the union's going to back them up. But go ahead. I want to hear your thoughts on it.

No, no, thank you for that. Al from Sherman Park. I listen. I have learned this that there is

resistance and there's inability. And the majority of what we're talking about, let me clarify.

So some people just don't understand and they need coaching. They need clarity. And that's

where I come in. And thank you for the shout out, Dr. Ken. So out from Sherman Park, you've got

that group of people. And I love and passionately love coaching those kind of individuals who again

don't understand but want to understand. Then you have people that don't feel safe around

difference and they need that trust and consistency. And then, Al from Sherman Park, you've got the

folks like my brother in Christ who said a refer to Kyle as a black feller and refused to

carry out his role in responsibility simply because he does not want to change. Simply because

he's not being held accountable. And so we have to get clear on what's non-negotiable and

to find the behaviors that are required and that that has to be respect. Here's a thing. And I know

Dr. Ken and I talked about this all the time. I'm not mad at people who wear make America great again has

because at least I know where you stand. Please let me know how you feel. It's what bothers me the most

is when you have people who feel as though they can hide behind the powers that be. In this case,

the Milwaukee County office because they know that they're lack of respect and professionalism

and inclusion. They won't be held accountable for that. So the end of the day, whether Milwaukee County

says it out loud or not, they've just told the entire state of Wisconsin, the entire Milwaukee County

that, and I'll quote when I say this, because just like JD Bands, President, Vice President,

JD Bands said, you don't have to apologize for being white anymore. And that's translated to me.

You don't have to apologize for being racist anymore. This is what Milwaukee County is basically saying

to me. To me, this is what I'm hearing. This is how we operate here. And if you don't like it,

sorry for you. And that's disappointing. Yes it is. Very much so.

I don't think we're holding leadership's feet to the fire hard enough. I think that's my point

because like I said, you got a black county executive. I'm not sure who his district supervisor is,

but he should also be bringing their phone off the hook. I mean, you don't stop there just because

you haven't gotten a return call. You may have to show up in person. That is one meeting with

the county executive. That is true. Okay. Because he wants to run for higher office, show some leadership

on this. Oh, he went there. He went there. I was wondering when somebody was going to bring that up.

I wouldn't. I was waiting. Yeah. Absolutely. Don't apologize for being me. I work in

customer. Oh, I don't know. Let me be clear. Let me let me be clear out in terms of why you don't

have to apologize. This is the truth. I'm filtered. Let me just say this to you brother because I know

you've you've called in. You're you're a valued listener of the truth and supporter.

Your responsibility as a leader. And I don't care if you're the McDonald's third shift

French fries supervisor. So including this man who referred to Kyle as a black feller.

Your responsibility is to always set the standard

and the collective. And so I would advise number one Kyle don't take it personally.

But I also want the Milwaukee County office to set the standard and let Milwaukee County know that

this type of interaction is unacceptable because it doesn't align. And I'll tell you what even

further out from Sherman Park and Dr. Ken, if you go to the Milwaukee County offices website

and read their mission statement. It does not. Okay. See, I'll leave it at that.

I even got to continue. Yeah. So I'm I'm done y'all. I'm done talking. I'm gonna leave it. I'm

gonna leave it there. And here's the thing about leaders. You still need to return calls to

your constituents. Even if it's safe, we're investigating. Not ignore a situation. Again,

I don't need to vote for you if you're not even doing that basic thing. So, so let me let me

be clear. I'm not here to to change. And this is a big this is a profound statement. I want

everybody to hear me clear when I say this. I'm not here to. If you don't like people that are

non white or if you don't like black people, hey, I'm not here to change you. It is what it is.

That's how you feel. But you don't get to work for and represent the Milwaukee County,

which is the highest black population county in the entire state of Wisconsin. You don't get to

do that. So either Milwaukee County is going to terminate him, put him on some type of leave of

absence unpaid. Or you're basically saying that this is okay. Yep. We're not we're not trying to

change anybody's feelings. That's why J.J. Vance. He sounded so. It was as if he was like, yeah,

you don't apologize for being white. We've never as a as a community asked white people to apologize

to us. But we do demand respect. And if you don't like black people, the last place that you

should be working is in Milwaukee County. That's all I'm saying. Thank you, Elle. Correct.

Correct. Have a good day. All right. Take care. A 556161 620 is the WTMJ talking text line. We

got to take a break because I don't I don't know if Denise is going to come back after that. Like

she I think she gave up. She says she'd done. But it's about something that the Reverend Dr.

Alex G talked about that fatigue. You get fatigue. And I heard what you said Denise 49.9 all

like to say is welcome to the club because you get to a point where you're just done.

Yeah, I'm not I'm not here to change people. Like I said, I appreciate when I see people where

make America great again, because I'm like, at least I know where you stand. At least I know

what I'm I'm dealing with. And guess what, Dr. Ken? I don't. I don't deal with it. I don't

tolerate it. I don't entertain it because I still believe that there are way more good people

that don't wake up in the morning with this, you know, I do. I honestly feel there are more

good people than that man who addressed Kyle as a black feller. I really do. So I'm focusing on

those people, not the one that is miserable and hates himself to where he has to make somebody

else feel bad because he does. He hates himself. He's miserable. Yeah, very true. You're listening

to get some therapy brother. Hey, it might not be mental illness. He just might be a bad person.

Racism is a mental illness. Uh-oh. She has spoken. You're listening to Truth Unfiltered,

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the Truth Unfiltered. You know, sometimes I forget that we're on YouTube and I'd just be rocking

to the music like hey, and then I look over and I see Denise looking at me like like

you have mental illness. And I do when it comes to music because I absolutely love music.

You're listening to Truth Unfiltered, 51 minutes after the hour. We've been talking about this

absolutely frustrating, absolutely ridiculous lack of response from Milwaukee County.

And I've been trying to come up with some things. What can we do as a Truth Nation, as a 620 Nation,

as a Milwaukee City to get the county to understand that when they talk about

Milwaukee being the state of Milwaukee, we do our things our way out. We need to teach the state.

We need to teach the county that same thing. We need to make the county understand that you're

not going to walk over black people in this county and you don't have carte blanche to just push us

aside. Let's say you. Can you still hear me, Dr. Kim? I can hear you now. Okay.

If I'll answer your question in more of an abstract way, if you can wake up every day in the morning

and justify harming someone simply based on their race. And I think a lot of times,

because if I were to go back to that employee that used a racial slur black beller

and just to find it, like what do you mean? I just said black beller knowing the intention or

desired impact. That's not just wrong. It is a complete failure of judgment, empathy, and leadership.

And when I say I'm coming from the lens of the Milwaukee county office right now, it's basically

sane. You see racism, it requires you. And this is just based on research and study.

It requires you, and I really want to use this word, Dr. Kim, racism requires you to ignore

reality. It requires you to dismiss humanity and then justify the harm and the trauma that comes

with because the immediate reaction, if you play the tape back or if you talk to Kyle, his immediate

reaction was, what did you say? And that comes from the initial feeling of shock.

And think about this. That was the guy that was with Kyle. And Kyle was speechless,

like, to the point where the guy had to speak up, we go like, what did you say?

Like it's there. Yeah, because anytime that you ask somebody, even though you heard them the first

time, but when you say, I know you do. That's because the feelings of hurt, it's a critical

condition. And I know a lot of people are like, oh, she's being dramatic. You have not lived

an experience of if you have not lived as a black person in this country, please know that racism

is destructive. It is morally indefensible. Like it is something that people of color live with

day to day and still have to make white people still comfortable. And until you've lived that

experience and ignore the realities that come with racism, it's everything. This is not about

confusion. This is about choices. So I hope Milwaukee County, the office of Milwaukee County,

I hope they choose right. Do we need to make people so comfortable though?

Do black people need to make white people feel comfortable? Do we need to make anybody feel

comfortable? I mean, we're at a point now where we get mad at people for making them feel comfortable.

People have gotten fired. I'm going to people have lost their jobs, you know, suspend it

for because how someone else felt, which is totally bizarre to me.

I'm going to underscore and focus on the operative word need. Okay.

Oh, man, I don't know if I want to answer because, because concepts, concepts are so crucial.

Yes, it is. And I'm going to play the fit. And that's why I said need because

we can be self-sustaining, self-creating, self-growing. We can do all these things ourselves.

I also also push and we only got about a minute. So I'd like your quick thought on this.

When we can own the infrastructure for electricity, oil, and water,

there's really nothing we would need for anybody else. We can sustain life on our own.

But here's, here's the reality. Over 500 years, we've been conditioned otherwise.

And so, next thing, no, I'm going to talk about this amendment because you've got to make some

statements about that. We got to come back next week. So, yeah.

There's a thing, this is a conversation that you've got to be ready for and you've got to

be open-minded for. And I live in a, I live in a society now where people literally wake up in

the morning, they want to cancel people. And by the way, you can try it, but you cannot cancel

greatness. No, you cannot. Light will always crush darkness. Well, thank you, Denise. I appreciate you.

Thank you. Thank you, Dr. Kent. I appreciate you. All right. And if you can make it to Madison,

the Center for Black Excellence, from two to six, they've got tours in Madison, Wednesday,

May six. Thanks hanging out. I appreciate you, Denise. Evan, appreciate you. All right.

Have a safe week. God bless. Take care. I will see you Monday through Friday from four to six

on our sister's station, 101.7. The truth. We're out.