12/1/25 6PM: Thanksgiving, Tough Laws & Telling Our Stories

This is The Truth Unfiltered with Denise Thomas and Dr. Ken Harris.

Let's say what it actually is.

These are children and when a child is seeking help and still doesn't make it home safe,

you know, Dr. Kim, we've got to ask like, in the words of Marvin Gaye, what is really going on?

What is really going on and who will step up?

Now you can put it into it and I have no qualms saying that.

I don't care what her race is, I don't care what her gender is,

I don't care where she's from, I don't care what her family does,

I don't care how much money she has, she has proven that she belongs in jail.

And I said it when they were going to release her, it should all left her in.

It's Tussle live at the Avenue.

Here's Denise Thomas and Dr. Ken Harris.

Good evening and welcome.

I'm your host Dr. Ken Harris, along with the,

well, I see she's smiling now, so we'll have to call her effervescent.

Effervescent.

Is that, is that good?

How do you spell effervescent?

Again, I'm public school.

EFFERVEESENT.

Oh, I thought I almost stumbled through there, Dr. Ken.

I was like, am I, am I getting them all this?

Plus, plus or minus a letter.

Effervescent.

What is the definition effervescent?

Bright, shiny, bubbly.

Okay.

I'll take that.

The same way you're smiling effervescently.

I don't even know if that's work.

You know, I've got a lot to be excited about.

And thankful.

It was good.

It was good.

We went out in eight and it was significantly better than sitting at home,

cooking and waiting and waiting and waiting for Turkey and

dressing and crannies.

Yeah.

You just go somewhere and sit out.

I'll take this.

That, that, that, that, that, that they brought you eight.

And then you were good.

We, we have tried to convince my mother every year.

And shout out to my beautiful mother who is, who will be 87 years old next month.

Wow.

Denise, but you're only 14.

How'd that happen?

I love you.

And every year my mother, she says, this is it.

I'm not cooking anymore, y'all.

This is the last things even I'm cooking.

So I try to honor my mother's request and respect the fact that she has for the past

18,000 years, you know, started 12 hours before we actually served.

So any who, she was like, I said, okay, mom, I'll find a restaurant.

Oh, a restaurant.

I don't, you just, I'm sorry.

She's like, they can't cook.

I said to mom, what do you want us to do?

She said, well, I'm going to cook, but I'm not going to cook as much as I have in previous

years. Are you ready for this WTMJ, Dr. Ken Evan, are you ready for the Thomas Thanksgiving

menu? Which by the way, my mother said, I'm not cooking that much.

Let me know when y'all are ready, because I'm going to go down.

So, so, so she cooked down.

This is that what I'm hearing.

She, that's what you'll face, I ain't saying that, but okay, so here we go.

Cornish hens,

orange glazed turkey, orange glazed chicken,

honey-baked ham, which that was the one thing she didn't necessarily make from scratch.

Cornbread, corn pudding, regular corn, green beans, collard greens, green bean casserole,

sweet potatoes, potato salad, devil eggs, sweet potato pie, peach cobbler, millionaire pie,

and pecan pie. But that wasn't, that wasn't doing too much, Dr. Ken. That, that was her being

light this year. Well, part of that, she was cooking for herself too.

And, I said, mother,

they're seven of us. They're seven of us. Y'all correct that.

Well, your your nephew, mentee,

forward slash my son, he made up for everything, because he drove from Milwaukee to Evansville.

Wow. I flew back, well, actually I flew to Philadelphia for the Bears Eagles games.

Of course. And, of course, but we won't talk about that.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, your audience.

So he, he packed like eight to go boxes of leftover food. So just so you know WTMJ family,

Dr. Ken, Evan, everybody, no food was wasted. But again, my mother is a great cook.

We had French toast casserole that morning.

It's just that every year she claims she's not going to cook a lot. And every year,

I'm just like mom. But it was a good Thanksgiving. I have a very limited palette.

So I never heard of French toast casserole, because I've never eaten a casserole before a day of my life.

French toast casserole is basically where you take, what's the big, thick bread? What's it

called? What's it called? What do you call it? What do you call it? Brioche bread or?

Brioche. Brioche. Thank you. Brioche bread and you cut it up in squares.

And you put it in a casserole dish and you put like sugar, cinnamon,

it's like this creamy stuff. I don't cook, so I'm just the messenger. And you put what,

like you might want turkey sausage and then you put raspberries, blueberries, strawberries on top,

powdered sugar, French toast casserole. Bam, it's life-changing. It's life-changing, y'all.

So, some eggs. It's a casserole.

That's okay. That's okay. Okay, well, speaking of mothers, speaking of mothers, mother nature,

definitely woke up yesterday and she let us know that she's back.

Oh, so you haven't heard? I'm sorry? You haven't heard.

She's coming back tomorrow. Oh, mother nature does not play. So, South East Wisconsin is officially

in snow storm mode. Now, Dr. Ken, when you stepped out of your house this morning,

what did you see? Did you slide? Like, what was the experience when you woke up this morning,

you went outside? I really can't tell you because I had a great flashback, but it was all white.

You know, it's all like it is when you go to work. And I can help myself. And so, and so,

it was about four inches of snow. Everything was covered. Everything had snow, but unfortunately,

it was a heavy snow. It was like big things of snow, right? Like big boulders, but it was snow.

And it wasn't all the way frozen, but it was frozen enough that if you scoop a shovel under it

and lift it, you could probably get a heart attack. Now, my day was great. I did the front. I did the

back. I have those long, that long walkway and that long stretch across the front on side walking

out of got all that done. I go to the back and then I remember, oh, yeah, if I'm going to pull my

car out, I need to clean the garage apron, you know, so when you pull out your drive into the

alley, that little part that goes down, well, I remember we pay somebody to come through the alley

and clear the snow when it snows. You know, it's, it's that 30 or 40 bucks, you can either

have every year and it works great and it snows to the point where you get your money's worth

or you pay it, it doesn't snow and you just wasted 30 dollars times having many houses on your

block. Well, the issue was a snow that came up the alley and pushed big chunks of snow in front

of my garage. It took me longer to clear out in front of a two car garage than it did to do all of

the walkway in the backyard and all of the walkway in the front, which is a lot and the sidewalk.

So I'm a little upset, but, you know, it is what it is.

Well, I gotta, I gotta tell you something funny, I'm well first and foremost, I'm glad you're

safe and Dr. Ken and I want to make sure that if you are driving right now in your listening,

please, please slow down, and I know a lot of people are like, well, duh, but seriously, we

always gotta reinforce because cars are gliding like they are auditioning for Disney on ice y'all.

Yeah. As they say in the in the south, the roads are slicker than a politician in election season.

Dr. Ken. That's a good one. That's a good one.

And some of us are still driving out here with, with confidence, but we gotta make sure that

we're driving safe. So Dr. Ken and I are to make sure that you have something to focus on,

aside from the road. We love you. We're praying for you. We see you. We want to make sure that

your safety is number one. So please, please, please, please drive safe. And if you are just now

getting home, you want to call us, let us know what you're seeing out there. Let us know our

exciting unlimited talking text line is 855. Dr. Ken, that was so cute.

616160. Oh, I want to hit the talking text line right quick before we go to break.

Somebody, you know, people are saying about, you know, you know, I can't hear Denise very well,

and I say, you know, we're having technical difficulties. I know she sounds soft, but you can

listen. Like actually, she's a communication coach. You should just like listen. So then they wrote,

if you want us, if you want to make us believe that Denise is in the studio and not on the phone,

like she really is. And I wanted to go, well, actually, she's not on the phone. She's on video

and she's literally in Dallas. And she's literally told you that she was in Dallas. So like, what

are you making up like we trying to fake you out or something? He said, you might want to pay

attention and fix her audio. You're right. I'm going to stop doing the show now, and I'm going to

go in and I'm going to become an FCC engineer and fix it. I can't say what I want to say. I like

being on radio. I don't sound that bad, do I? If you probably get closer to the microphone,

but other than that, I think if people that quiet in the, yeah, but now, if people just listen,

I think we'll be okay. Yeah, and I appreciate y'all's understanding. I'm like we say, I'm doing

the best I can with what I got, but we're going to make sure that this show is still informative,

entertaining. I thought at first, you were going to say somebody was going to say that there's

no way Denise is a communication coach. Well, I'll have it on good authority. YouTube and X,

you sound just fine. So might I suggest? Might I suggest? Wtmj.com, click, watch, live, and then

there it is. I know the people that are watching us on, they're probably like Denise, back up from

the camera. All we see is nostrils. I got a big nose. I got a big nose on video.

Yeah, no, for real, I got a big Tito Jackson nose. I love my black features. My lips, my nose,

I embrace it all. Because being, see, that's one thing that we don't talk about in the black

community. We don't talk about it enough. It's colorism. And so the fact that, you know, I

more of a lighter complexion as a black person, I embrace my black nose and my big black lips.

I have to. And on that note, I'm going to take a break because I think we'd like the same

complexion. So I'm going to let they go. You're listening truth and filtered on your host, Dr.

Ken Harris, along with the effective communication coach Denise Thomas. When we come back, I know we

have some stuff we want to talk about. And I really want to dive into a few things. But when we come

back, we got to touch really, really fast on your book. We got to talk about it. It got released.

It's on Amazon. And I thought I'd throw that in there because, you know, you're like the greatest.

So I thought we'd do that. You're listening to truth unlimited.

Right back. Welcome back to the truth on filtered.

You're listening to truth and filtered on your host, Dr. Ken Harris 8556161620, the

citing a limited WTMJ talk and text line along with a 3 3 2 1 2 1 0 1 7 is the

101 7 the truth talking text line. I'm here with the effective communication coach Denise Thomas. I'm

here with that other guy named what's the last name again? Um, um, um, Erie definitely not engineer.

Engine engineer. Uh, Evan. Hey, what's up? Yeah. So, so I heard this bill that came out. And it,

it, it disturbed me greatly. And, and I want to get your, um, input Denise because I'm not a woman.

Um, it's, it's about a controversial topic. But I think I, I have a, I think I have a take on it.

That's a little different because one, I'm a man and most people say, they shouldn't have any

input at all. Wow. Okay. From CBS 58 news, there's a new bill that require women to collect

medical waste in a catch kit after using an abortion pill. Now,

removing whether or not your pro or anti or anything, the fact that you're using, we need

clean water in its contaminant of all the crap we throw in the like, uh, the crap we put in the

rivers. You, you, you forward, I can hear you typing, by the way. You, you, you, you forward,

you know, out of all the things that you throw into the lake, you pick

medical waste. And then you narrowed it down to women. Well, a new bill was introduced in the

state legislature, which would require women to collect their abortion waste. Representative

Lindy Brill says she believes abortion waste is contaminating our water. But her opponents say

there's not enough data to support the claim. She said, we as women are taking chemicals to

impregnancy in our own homes and putting them into our public water system. Of all the stuff that

you would say, Hey, let's pass a bill to stop that. Removing being pro or anti abortion.

That's what you pick to say you want to clean the water. That's dumb. Your thoughts?

Well, first and foremost, I, I definitely agree with your point about why this particular

form of waste is being the focal point when there are so many other sources of waste that cause

pollution and that destroy our environment. So I agree with you on that. And typically to your

other point, when we talk about pollution and waste management, we're talking about clean water

communities and protecting, again, our, our earth. And so this bill for me is raising

some questions again, starting with yours. How, how do we handle medical waste across all

procedures? I think now, let me, let me be clear. I'm all for the bill as long as it's focusing on

removing all forms of medical waste across all medical procedures, not just abortion. And

how do we prevent that contamination? Right. And then how do we ensure that these policies, now

this is where I'm going to again, ruffle some feathers, Dr. Kim, which I appreciate you directing

the question to me. Now, are we basing this bill on science, safety, and sustaining the earth?

Or are we basing this bill on making sure that a certain population, a certain demographic

is growing? And so I don't necessarily think that this has to do with environmental justice.

I think this has everything to do with making sure that a certain population, a certain demographic,

a certain race of people are continuing to increase because I don't know why you know this.

Before our valued listeners, there was a period where the US census, the United States census

had reported that by, I want to say it was like 2026, 2027, what has typically been known as

minorities would be the majority population. And so then you saw a certain group saying, whoa,

wait a minute, we can't have people of color being the majority. So we're going to have to come up

with some legislations and some bills to make sure that a certain demographic are not having

abortions, which is what to me resulted in the reversal of row versus weight. So this to me is

related. It's another way to make a certain population to make it difficult

and use words and phrases to where you feel obligated to make sure that you are

having bringing life into this world. I know that sounds, but I mean I'm just, because again,

why abortion waste? Why not all types of waste? You just threw me on a loop

when I thought about the fact, I hadn't thought about, well, where does all that other waste go,

surgeries and people on the catheter, people like, I'm like, blood, like, where does that go?

Like, then I realized, uh, guess it goes to the site. So I guess it's okay to throw blood and

you know, fat and all and opioids in a water. But let me be clear in duck. This is not real

environmental protection. To me, again, because number one, how should all medical waste

be handled? Not just the abortion procedures that will keep our earth, our communities clean and safe.

And I would challenge this particular, what was what was the lawmaker's name again that

presented the bill that wrote the bill? Uh, representative Lindy Brill,

B-R-I-L-L. So my question to, is it representative Bill or Senator Bill or?

Well, it's representative state state representative. And so it sounds like what they're trying to do

is they want to have the waste returned back to the doctor's office, which is another issue,

because now I got to go back to the doctor, but that's just weird. And then they would dispose

of the hazardous material, those chemicals that are entering into our

water system. Well, how are they going to burn it? Okay, so this would be my question.

Yes, before we go to point. Is this truly about pollution prevention?

Or is this about controlling a conversation around

reproductive rights? Right, because somebody did bring that up. Um,

State Senator Latani Johnson, who serves on the Metropolitan Milwaukee Surage District Commission

from 2017 to 2021, argued that this is another method to restrict access to abortion. I don't know if it

goes that far, but I think it's it's it's skirting that edge of saying, well, we at least want to,

well, let me ask you this before we go to break. Do you think I'll have a chilling effect on

well, I'm not going to do it because then I have to take that to my doctor. And if I get a prescription,

I don't know if you need prescriptions for the, for the pill or not. I don't know. You know,

do I am I then on record? And now I they expect me to bring it back or yeah.

I again, I just the motive. I would be curious to understand what the true motive is because again,

if it's truly about preventing pollution, why are we fixated in terms of this bill on the abortion

procedure and not all medical related or procedure as medical procedures that have medical waste?

Why why because again, I mean, if it's just that to me again, like Senator Johnson said,

it's either because you're trying to have more restrictions on abortion.

And with that, you're trying to make sure that a certain population, a certain demographic

continue to increase because if we look at the data, which when we go to break, I'm going to try

to do some research and pull up some facts. I know we got some listeners who are very data driven.

And I appreciate that on what population on record has the highest number of recorded

abortion procedures. So you got to you got to peel the layer back. You got to peel the onion

layer back and get to what's the real motive here? And I would appreciate the lawmakers that are

standing in both opposition as well as an agreement of this bill to explain clearly what are the

motives? What is the the purpose like what was to be gained from this bill? And is it actually

designed to protect the environment or is it political packaging with a bow on it?

Well, CBS 58 reached out to the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources to see how abortion

waste impacts the state's water quality, but didn't hear back. The US Trump administration,

the US Food and Drug Administration has rejected that argument stating there is no evidence

that single use abortion pills contaminate the water. So there you have it. 8556161620 is the

citing unlimited WTMJ Tuck and Textline 83321217 for what a one seven the truth Tuck and Textline.

I'm here with Denise Thomas, the effective communication coach, and when we come back,

not debares like you see her wearing on her on her sweatshirt. It'll we'll be talking about

the book. You're listening to the truth unfiltered.

What an appropriate song if I rule the world, but then again, I think that's something Denise

Thomas is trying to do. So Denise wrote a book and I had

and I'm going to let her explain it because the title of it is, well, I've had to live up to it

literally my entire life. And I think one of the things that made it so powerful because she was

on my show. So if you get a chance, go back and listen Thursday before last November 20th

on YouTube or X. And the great thing about the book is that it really talks about

being the only one in the room. But it doesn't lend itself to race or gender or disability.

It's open for everybody because there've been many times when you were the only one in the room

based on how you felt based on what you thought, what you believed, how you worked, your education.

There's so many different iterations of being the only one in the room and how to

how to emotionally and psychologically work your way through that. So I want to say, we have a

noted offer and presenter, podcaster, honored talk show host,

public school graduate. That's the most important part. And now she got a book. Tell us about

your book, Denise. Well, Dr. Kim, first and foremost, thank you for that very kind and generous

introduction about the book. This book has been, I'd say, about 30 years in the making and it took

about 20 months to actually get the pen to paper. I got to give a huge, special, special thank you

to Mr. Steven M.R. Covey, a Franklin Covey author of The Seven Happens of Highly Effective People.

For writing the forward to my book, which was huge for me. He and I both were keynotes,

keynote speakers at a conference. And you know, everybody was like,

don't know if you can interact with him. If you see him, let him, you know, speak to you first,

he's a very, look, I was like, I'm very well aware of who Steven Covey and the entire Covey

brand and their impact to leadership development. I was like, I get it. So after I presented,

not knowing that he was in the audience, he approached me and he, and I'm like, Mr. Covey,

you need no introduction. To make a long story short, what's crazy about having a vision. And so

for anybody who's listening that continues to have this vision, whether it's writing a book,

whether it's visiting a foreign country, whether it's, you know, that big home project. What is it?

If you're visioning it on a consistent basis, know that that that is a significant indicator that

you are destined to do that. And I had always had a book on my vision board, always Dr. Ken.

And so anyway, Mr. Covey, he introduced himself and he said,

where's your book? Like, where can I, where can I buy your book? I was like, I don't have a book.

And he was like, what? He said, Denise, there is a story in you. And when you read the book,

and I'm sure you've read this already, Dr. Ken, Mr., Mr. Covey's forward. It walks you through the

whole introduction. And he says, I'll tell you what, if you write a book, I'll write your forward.

And when I tell you, Dr. Ken, my heart literally, and as long as you and I have known each other,

you know it takes a lot for people like you and I to like, you know, what? So as composed as I could

be, I thanked him and I got to work. That's good. I have to thank Mr. Covey because this book would not

be here if it had not been for his encouragement, his belief, I mean, he was just like, you're amazing.

He was like, you need to have a story. You need to have a book. And this book to your point

is even if you're someone who doesn't identify with being the only one in the room. And again,

this is not just based on physical appearance. This is oftentimes people who, you know, may be

introverted and work with a lot of extroverts or someone who has a lot of ideas and perspectives

often feels as though their voice isn't heard. But it's also Dr. Ken for those individuals

who lead different types of personalities, different types of team members and how they engage.

And if you are a people leader, and you want to continue seeing a strong people leader that

helps build morale and sustain or even develop high performance, this book is designed for you as well.

It's not a breed and then put on your bookshelf. It is a playbook. It's a blueprint.

And so I would encourage everyone. You can visit my website. You can go, like you said, Dr.

Ken, it's on Amazon. The only one in the room. And when you see this cover, you know, you've,

you got the right book. So the only one in the room. Amazon, I prefer you purchase it from my website.

We've got a holiday bundle promotion going, www.realcomcoats. It's R-E-A-L-C-O-M-M coach.com.

It'll make a great, great holiday gift for an employee, a colleague, anybody who you believe in,

anybody who needs just a boost of confidence, or anybody who leads people,

make an investment and purchase this blueprint, this playbook. And please let me know what you think.

I'm stalking your website right now. I'm sorry, because I'm supposed to say that out loud. My bad.

And so, and so really from what it looks like. First of all, thank you for that. You've only

got till December 15th to make your order. And, and she throws in a lot of, that's only 13 days.

Is that what happened to this year? I don't know what happened to this year.

You know, supply chain is a beast. So we want to make sure that we get all the orders in.

We can fulfill them so folks can get the bundle to your point in this fast paced 2025 year.

And it's gift ready. When you order the bundle, you don't have to worry about wrapping it up

or putting a bow on it. All that, it's literally open the box, take it out, gift it. So it's free

ship too. So I just, I just want to, I just got one question before we go to break. So only one,

this is one, kind of, kind of, kind of, kind of brother get a candle.

You can definitely get a candle. Okay. All right. You know what. You can get a whole

dot key bundle book because you have been so supportive in helping me promote and market

this book. So I don't know when I'm back in Milwaukee, but as soon as I come back,

I'm sure it'll be some time in January. Know that's coming. Evan, I need you to flag

the recording, go to X and save it and then go to YouTube and edit it and download it so I have it

because when, because when Black History Month coming February, I'm going to be like,

yeah, with my book, with my book, like, kind of, kind of, kind of, kind of, kind of brother get a candle.

I'll do better than that, Dr. Ken. I'll do better than that. If you text me,

you're mailing address because I know you travel all around the world. So wherever you'll be

during the last two weeks of December, text me your address and I will have it directly shipped

to you. How about that? First of all, that would be great. But I don't want to get shocked and be

at some hotel. Excuse me, Dr. Harris, there's a package at the, I mean, I don't order no package.

Somebody put some in the pack. I don't see too many movies. I can put some in the package.

When we come back, we want to, we want to talk about the UW project maps of Milwaukee's history.

And I think you'll be amazed. I touched on it and then I ran into some trouble with some

research. But of course, Denise, she spent so much time on airplanes. She was able to sit down and

do some research and download some stuff. There's a phenomenal project that's going on.

Unfortunately, it's still going on after many decades here in Milwaukee and Wisconsin

about black neighborhoods. She's Denise Thomas. I'm Dr. Ken Harrison. Once again,

if you want to contact Denise, www.realcomcoach2ms.com. And you can check out her new book.

The only one in the room. When we come back, why are there black neighborhoods in Wisconsin?

Interesting. Welcome back to the truth unfiltered.

You're listening to truth unfiltered, also unregulated and unlimited.

But I thought about that. Dr. Ken Harris, the effective communication coach,

author Denise Thomas is with us. So Denise, tell me how you came across this story

about the housing covenants in Milwaukee.

Great question. And so I've been doing a significant amount of research regarding

generational wealth. And quite frankly, as a black person in this country,

how to generate it, how to sustain it. You know, I have two adult children. And so we've been

also collectively talking about what is the fundamental source of capital and the key to building

generational wealth. And every no matter what source, no matter what research it all goes back to,

real estate property, owning real estate, owning houses, more than one, whether it's commercial,

whether it's residential, investing and owning different properties. And so that is basically what

then drawn me into looking at neighborhoods that are being gentrified, which then I started dig

into. Okay. You just jumped in the rabbit hole didn't. No, seriously, this is how I did it, Dr.

Ken. Then I went into, okay, who owns what population, what racial demographic or racial population

owns the most homes in Milwaukee? And where are the quality schools placed? Where do opportunities

like employment grow? Who's been pushed out? Who's been priced out? Who's been locked out? And

it all went back to the black community. Now neighborhoods, now, so then I came upon to your

earlier question, this project that UWM is facilitating, which I think is so relative, it's so

necessary, because it's peeling back that curtain on, for many of us, we felt the gap for, you

know, many generations, but we never had this kind of visibility, this kind of clear mapping that UW

Milwaukee is producing. And so that's how I came to this. You got to understand, before you can

start making moves, you got to first understand, how do we get here in the first place?

That is true. We don't repeat, you know what I'm saying? So that's how I came upon this

amazing and credible relevant article about the new UW project. And it's funny because

when you go to these small towns outside of Milwaukee County, and you look at the

the history of racism and, you know, covenants that popped up in like 1911 in Wawatosa. And I

remember when Zeddy Cue Heiler was the first black man to move into Wawatosa, either bought a house

or built a house and, you know, all hell broke loose and, you know, threats and all those, all those

things. And so we find years later, along with the 1970s and the federal government redlining,

we have what we have because of many of the racial covenants that stopped us from going places

that we wanted to go and that it's been stated on numerous occasions, suburbs were created for white

people that weren't created for black people. And so some of these towns even have sundown laws

that have not been taken off the books that, you know, when sun goes down, non-whites can't be in

town. And so I just, when you sent me this, I just found it so fascinating because,

well, I guess I'll ask you the question. Did you know that Jim Crow actually happened in the

north as well? I did not. I did not. I have to be fully transparent. I did not until

reading this article and doing further research. And I want to underscore an earlier point that

you made, Dr. Kim, because this is, this is very important. Okay, I want to underscore this point

that you just made for our valued listeners. Think about this. It is almost the year 2026

and we are still living inside maps that were drawn in 1935. There are still banks that engage in

redlining. There are still policies, or also known as predatory lending, that deepens that

division. Yep. There are still property values that are unequal. And the bottom line is that

even in the year of 2026 with AI and everything else in all these different ways of making money,

home ownership is still the number one wealth building tool in the United States of America.

Yep. And for decades, black and brown families have been shut out of prime neighborhoods and

forced to live in neighborhoods where the value of the home is the lowest of the low. The rent

is higher. There's fewer loans or access to capital in order to own a home and there's less

long term equity. That's the ripple effect. And we got to go to break in a couple minutes. But one

of the things that I want to talk about in the eight o'clock hour about this is is now there seems

to be a concerted effort to make sure, you know, blacks and minorities have home ownership, right?

But now the question is, how do they own a home? And what are the terms of owning a home?

And that's what scares me when I see a lot of the, hey, we're going to teach you how to buy a

house and we're going to teach you how to, we're going to, you know, we have all these housing

places and other, we're going to teach you how to do it in the proper way. But the proper way is

only good for the bank. It's rarely good for the person buying the house. And so if you're not

paying attention to the terms and reading through things or, or kind of for the lawyer

to, to read over your agreement before you sign it, you're literally time. And then recently,

oh my gosh, I'm glad you said that. They're talking about coming up with, with, with 50 year

mortgages, 50 years. That means if you got a mortgage in your 50s, I'm sorry, in your, I'm

still stuck on 50. If you got a mortgage in your 20s, which rarely people do, you wouldn't be

done paying for it till you're in your 70s. You would be retired still paying on a mortgage.

That's it's just insane. But and, and your, your, the amount of money you pay per month is only

$200 less. What? Go get a part-time job. I just, it's amazing. So when we come back, I want to

really dive into this study and, and home ownership and neighborhoods and what can be done to make

sure we equalize you want to get to the what? The wealth gap. Oh, yeah.

Well, yes, it's one of the easiest, easiest ways, even though it's time, one of the easiest ways to

raise your net worth. So I mean, it's unfortunate, but it is what it is. And we'll be talking about that

when we come back. She's Denise Thomas. I'm Dr. Ken Harris. We'll be discussing the UW project maps

of Milwaukee's history of racist housing covenants. Do you have any comments?

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