12/1/25 7PM: Mapping Milwaukee & City Hall Shake-Ups

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Now before the break, before the news, I want to say thank you to just miss, miss Gatson.

I'm, I'm perplexed.

If people just walk away from laws that were on the books or just pretend like they

were there, or I'm, you know, the more I read this article, the more, you know, it says

race, no part of set subdivision will be conveyed or leased to or be occupied by any, that

means you can't even have a visitor by any person other than of the white race servants

other than of the white rows of an owner or tenant of said premises shall be permitted

to occupy said premises while engaged in that capacity.

Now if you're just tuning in, Dr. Ken and I are dissecting a new project that was launched

by the University of Wisconsin Milwaukee, also known as UWM, as well as some, some collaborators

that unveiled a detailed map showing, and this is public information.

So we're, we're looking at the same article that, that you're looking at, and it's showing

where racially restrictive housing covenants were used across the entire Milwaukee County.

And to Dr. Ken's earlier point, these covenants were legal clauses that were literally written

in some home deeds, stating who couldn't live in certain neighborhoods and overwhelmingly

targeting black, Latino, Jewish, Asian, and indigenous people.

And so this was policy, so Dr. Ken, I'm sorry, I got to, I got to put some underscore in

what you said, because imagine this, this was policy-based segregation designed and enforced

to protect white neighborhoods and exclude people of color.

And so when you hear the word racially restricted covenants, that basically means that they're

banning black and brown families from either buying or renting a home in thousands, not

hundreds, but thousands of Milwaukee properties.

Which by the way, Milwaukee black, well I should say, people of color population is higher

than white population.

And so this has created a long standing division between, and I'm doing the air quotes, Dr.

Ken, desirable and undesirable areas, which then results in limited access to quality schools,

clean parks, safe streets, and basically stability.

And this was common from the night, and again, Dr. Ken, I did not know that Jim Crow was taking

place up north like cities like Milwaukee, but even after they were outlawed, according

to this project, in 1948, the case Shelley versus Kramer, combined with the 1968 Fairhousing

Act.

Obviously, this impact still lives on, because that gives the background up.

Yes it does.

And so today, and I've told the story before of the difficulty I had buying a house in Milwaukee,

and the threats of lawsuits to get a mortgage to the point that when I complained, they tried

to give me a house, like they said, well, you know, basically, what do you want?

They were expecting me to say, don't sue them, but then they just give me the money for

the house, and then I have a house.

And when I thought about it, I had known that, well, but the point of it is, if you buy

the house and give it to me, it's not going to be listed in the, like, so when you buy

a house, they list, hey, X bank, so such and such a house in the general area.

Here's how much it's sold for not, you know, and there's not a lot of information on who

owns it and all that other stuff.

But it says, you know, and you can kind of get a feel for a neighborhood based on the

houses sold, how much they sold for.

And I'm thinking, well, don't do that, because if you do that, then it won't be listed.

I say, not only do I want a mortgage, see, my argument for you is to give me the mortgage

and I'll pay it, not to get something for free, because I know that it's got to be recorded

that I got a mortgage and you gave it to me.

And I think that, it, that seemed to bother them more than, than giving me a house for free.

And, and it was, it was just a weird thing.

And then I started asking around and, you know, I moved here, oh, no, no, no, no, you

don't want to buy a house down here.

Maybe you'd probably be more comfortable on the north side.

I'm like, huh, I can't buy a house in Bayview.

Why not?

I say, other black people live it.

It was just this weird thing and then I looked up the history like you did it.

Then I found out.

So this is, see, this is a thing, these, these neighborhood lines.

So even that, that question, which a number of, I'm sure are black and brown listeners

that are either homeowners or aspiring homeowners.

We already know the first question that comes to mind is there are certain parts of Milwaukee

that we still feel unwelcome in, and it, it basically, it shapes how to your point,

how we decide, because at the end of the day, yes, I, I, you know, home ownership as

we reported, it's still the number one source of wealth in this country.

Yep.

Yes, it is.

Whenever, when, when I live in a neighborhood that does not want me or I don't feel welcome

in, that has a psychological impact and a, you know, like, and that's another reason

I wrote this book because generations of black and brown families, including you, Dr.

Ken, have been told whether it's through a policy or whether it's just, just common

socialization.

You don't belong here.

I'm not comfortable.

I remember the first, the first, okay.

So when my parents, I think I was probably three or four.

Do you remember back there?

Well, I guess it wasn't that far back for you.

It was only like maybe 10 years or so, so, okay.

There you go.

So when, when, my first, my parents first home was purchased in a predominantly black

neighborhood in Evansville.

After, you know, once I was about to start grammar school, K four, they decided to move

to a suburb that is still very high affluent, which is known as Newberg, Newberg, Indiana.

Oh, wow.

Okay.

And I, I mean, I have certain memories, but my dad, he's told explicit experiences where

they were intentional.

The other, the other neighbors were intentional about making sure that my parents and myself

did not feel comfortable living in that neighborhood.

And see, when you, when you are somewhere where you don't feel as though you belong, that's

when you start to question your identity and your pride and even your trust.

And so I want to congratulate and thank UWM for this mapping, racism, and resistance

project because it's not just about exposing discrimination.

It also is reminder of the courage and the resilience of the people, both black, brown,

and white.

Oh, yeah.

Who fought back?

Yep.

And, and fought back from both sides of the aisle.

Exactly.

And so for me, this, this article, Dr. Ken, it inspires me to then, which is how I actually

got to the article to begin with, is how do we repair this harm that has been caused

by decades of discriminatory policies and legislations?

And this is a conversation that, quite frankly, Milwaukee needs to keep having because if

the number one source of wealth and the American dream is home ownership in this country,

and yet you have so many people that look like me and you that are excluded from these

high-value neighborhoods, denied access, and then forced to live in under-resourced neighborhoods.

Where the, where the, where the property never quite goes high enough for you to make

any real money until you pay off the house.

Where you go?

The wealth, the home ownership policies are, to me, this is my perspective.

Is the number one contributor to today's racial wealth gap?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

The removal of things out of school, not teaching personal finance, all those things.

See, you were, you were in my head because that was my next point.

And I was like, I'm going to be quiet after this.

School quality often follows property taxes.

So what I mean by that is that if there are major disparities in school funding, that's

because those neighborhoods don't have the same access to the STEM programs, the arts,

the AP courses, you know, the academic achievement, they don't have it.

It's a ripple effect.

And that's what we call systemic racism.

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Before we go to break, I'm going to jump on Owl from Shaman Park.

You are on Truth Unfiltered.

Hey, Dr. Ken, eight Denise.

Hello.

Your topic made me think about something.

So for these, all these years that we had this housing discrimination, was it Milwaukee

supposed to be the socialist haven of union workers and socialism supposed to make everyone

equal?

That is true.

But yet we had a greater amount of discrimination.

And it started first here before it even moved to other states as far back as the 1920s.

And we were this high architect of European socialism in the Germans, the Polish, and all

those other groups.

That is true.

So equality does not necessarily follow through from socialism, but what we might glean for

men.

I would say yes.

Your thoughts, Denise?

Okay.

Oh, I, I, for the first time, I think I've said this in a long time.

I completely agree with Owl from Shaman Park, completely agree.

I mean, I agree with the questioning.

The question is a valid and very important question that I would definitely be directing

to my local lawmakers.

Great.

Because I don't know if Denise knows, knows that history that we were the only city in

America with three socialist mayors back to back up to 1960.

I did not.

So thank you for sharing that because as you know, Owl, I am a transplant.

I lived in Milwaukee for about 22 years prior to relocating to Dallas in 2022, but I was

still living there part time, but no, I did not know that.

No, I'm glad we could learn something new, but thank you for thinking about it.

All right.

Thank you much, Owl.

Appreciate it.

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CBS 58 has a story that, that the process of building Milwaukee's 2026 city budget has

highlighted how the relationship between Mayor Cavalier Johnson, Common Council is a need

of repair.

I don't think it is, but the divide is apparent when the 15 member council voted unanimously

to override all of Johnson's budget veto.

Well, anyway, I'll talk about that later.

A frustrated Johnson told reporters outside his office, he was especially bothered by

the council's decision to roll each veto into one combined agenda item and reject all

of them with a single vote.

Do we still have some audio from the mayor and some comments that he may?

There's an example by some of the budget videos that I put out there.

Can we find a way to compromise so that we are looking out for the amount of money that

people have to pay in taxes, with affordability being something that's key for people, not

just here in Milwaukee or Wisconsin, but across the country.

Can we find some sort of way and there is not even any discussion about it.

And so that was the mayor when he was here on 620 WTMJ with Christian Brie and Steve

Scafidi on point.

Point taken.

That's weekdays starting at 10 a.m. right here on 620 WTMJ.

I really don't know.

He said, I don't know if in Milwaukee right now there is an objective system of checks

and balances.

The fact that you said that sounds so ridiculous because the check in the balance was that you

vetoed it and they countered you.

That's called checking balance.

You created the bill, they put some stuff in it, you vetoed it, they overwrote it.

That's their job.

That is how the system works.

You can't like poo poo the system because it didn't work for you or call it not objective

because now you're like stepping on people.

But if so, the two biggest disagreements were over how much the city would spend on replacing

age fire trucks and how much of a pay raise city workers should receive.

So Johnson said the council decision to add 9 million more to Johnson's proposed $2.6

million dollar budget could prove costly in the future years.

$9 million into $2.06 billion.

The number is almost insulting.

You'd have to get to what?

$200 million to be 10%, you're talking $9 million.

And so it's insulting because Johnson proposed, all the persons said Johnson's proposed 2%

raise were not enough to keep up with an increasing cost of living.

And so they gave them 3% and for those who don't work in the city and 4% for employees

who are also city residents.

Why is that a problem?

Dean, Dr. Ken, intellectual fact-based.

So can I go ahead and go there?

Okay.

Let's go there for a minute.

Why not?

Ken is being the educated Dr. Philosophical.

I was holding on.

I was holding on.

I'm going to stay there.

Okay.

So let me go ahead and unfilter my truth when it comes to this, okay.

This is not about some kind of like deadlock.

And I'm going to say it exactly how I feel for our valued listeners.

This is about power.

This is about priorities that aren't aligned and basically who's going to win this budget

war.

Because whenever a common council or city council overrides the mayor, this is way, way

beyond politics.

This is a clear statement about a misalignment, community pressure, constant friction.

And if you think that your taxes or services are being mishandled, this veto override cycle,

it shows that there are levers, but it's also the responsibility on all of us, or I'll

say all of Milwaukee tax paying citizens, to stay informed and to stay engaged.

Because why this matters to especially Brown and Black communities in Milwaukee is that

this veto override process.

And again, it shows that neither the mayor nor the council has total power.

And it also demonstrates that there is some uncertainty or necessary decisions that are

furthering delaying progress in this city.

And so I hope that in the spirit of transparency and accountability that these debates and

these vetoes over budgets and the items it exposes, where this disconnect is, because

you have fiscal conservatism, you have the investments in the community infrastructure.

But we got to look at this from the outside looking in.

And this is the first time that I've seen and correct me from wrong, Dr. Ken.

I haven't seen this many, I guess for lack of better words, because I tried to do some

research during the break.

I couldn't find any like public documents between 2023 and this year when the Milwaukee

Common Council did not override a veto from Cavalier, Mayor John.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Now what does that tell you?

That tells you that older men and women are listening to their constituents when they

say they want what they want.

I'm tired of following party lines and political lines and to an extent, just to an extent.

I'm tired of following racial lines.

Do what's right.

Just do the right thing.

And I think the common council did the right thing.

Now does that mean that our taxes will go up on our homes?

Yes.

I'm okay, because I got a fire department that can actually get there, not break down

on the way and we're hoping and praying.

I mean, this is why it's so important in, was it Kenosha, where the woman lost her three

kids in a fire?

There's stories across the country of two daughters, grown daughters who died going back into

a home to save their father.

We have to be, we have to understand that out of sight, out of mind, but when you need

the fire department, they need to get there within two, three minutes, maybe four minutes

tops.

And the only way to do that is to have a fire truck that runs.

But when they went against everything, again, and this is something that Milwaukee citizens

need to keep watching, I just see this pattern.

Every time you live in a city where the mayors, or let me say it this way, the veto override

process continues to be in the favor of the council, especially when there's a strong

consensus among older persons.

Right.

Like unanimous.

I mean, to me, the first and most significant message is that the balance of policy

power appears to rest more with the council than with the mayor.

I would say that's good.

Okay.

I disagree, but okay.

The other reason I say that is because the mayor represents the mayor's office.

This is just me, but I think the aldermen and women, the city council represents us.

And when we decided we wanted it, we called our aldermen and women, and we said override.

And they overwrote and they did what they were asked.

Okay.

Let me ask you this.

Let me ask you this.

And if you don't want to answer on air, and maybe somebody can call in, so I'm going

to ask the question to first, Dr. Campbell, but I'm also asking any of our value listeners

that reside, pay taxes in the city of Milwaukee.

Do you think right now that your taxes are being mishandled?

Based on what I'm seeing, no.

Based on the override, no.

Okay.

And any time you would rather go get a loan and go into debt for the city and not pay for

it outright, makes no sense.

That's bad fiscal management.

That's just me.

It may be a technique you can use, but I think it's bad fiscal management.

I, yeah, I think this is very, very interesting, and I hope that Milwaukee pays even more attention

to these types of meetings and because we do have, we do have the right to ask the same

all the persons or common council members, and here's the thing.

I don't know if you know this or not.

No, you probably know, Dr. Ken.

I just learned this, you know, I was yesterday years old when I found out that you can actually

review council meeting minutes after any veto to see if the override vote falls, excuse

me, if there's, if there is or not a override vote, you

can, you can review council meeting minutes right after any veto, that is public information.

So I would, I would encourage myself and others that, you know, are impacted by these decisions

to really pay attention because this is kind of a big deal.

Is it not?

Well, we'll find out with the 15% raise that the police got and the money we have to

spend on the fire trucks, which I don't, I don't mind, I'm, I'm okay with it.

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Yes, I am, but I'm biased.

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I want to talk to you, Dr. Ken, good evening.

Good evening.

Well, what I want to say tonight is that I'll just reach the top of the covenant where

it's vetoed.

You may have been extremely unpopular mayor in the city of Milwaukee.

Yeah.

You might be looking at him or nobody's looking at you, mine will poke in heart for some

money.

It needs to be on television somewhere doing some comedic stuff.

Yeah.

Well, topics that we'll just move is more the black covenant or the covenant of racism

that exists and still exists in the city of Milwaukee, not only in the private sector,

but also in the public sector.

Okay.

And so, I'm of the mindset that this is what confederate environments and confederate

point.

You know, Wisconsin, the city of Milwaukee, all of the surrounding communities still have

divisions of racism.

The divisions just don't go away overnight.

And you know, seven to 80 years after the civil rights movement, we still have divisions

of Jim Crow.

And I can give you some public examples of modern day Jim Crow, the modern day government

supported by individuals on the common council, who are supposed to be black, like capital

job, was the stamper, chairman Spencer, or Tim, Tim Spencer is an on the common council.

He's not an office.

I know.

You're a general.

Well, long.

Okay.

Well, I can give you some hardcore examples as you will dig into the real racism that exists

in this community and still exists is not going away and supported by local attorney,

local agencies of the city of Milwaukee, such as community advocates.

So what is it that you think we can do to fix it?

Because we can we can go down the blame road all day long, but publicizing it doesn't change

it.

What can actually be done?

If you publicize issue, it would embarrass the people who have supported the issue and

you would think are supporting people of color to home owners, to become home owners,

not trying to separate them from more boldness because of their skin color.

But but we already know that it's been 70 years since since the civil rights movement.

It's been in this box in Milwaukee for literally decades.

Knowing about it doesn't change anything.

Being aware of it.

Okay, we were already aware of it.

We know it.

What what do we do?

What's the first thing we do?

We have some public home.

We have some hardcore facts of evidence that show exists because we went to the mayor's

and said, oh, no, that doesn't happen.

We don't do that.

We're against black people blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, back to the matter.

So what's the end so so then what's the end goal?

I got to run because we've got another call.

So then what's the end goal?

What do you what do you want the city to look like?

The email and I email you the evidence and you can take a look at it and you just I'm

clear of the evidence.

I'm asking you, what do you want the city to look like after it's I want to look at

I want to be more populist of black home owners.

I want people of black race to make up the majority of this population to have more

black home ownership.

I want the neighborhoods to be less dangerous than they are currently.

In addition to that, I want to move the kids in downtown Milwaukee.

I mean, for the other day, the city or the county executive or somebody in the legislature

is complaining about one of these older buildings that we have.

200 year old buildings that they want to tear down and recreate is going to cost the

billion.

They're already billions of dollars in debt, whereas it's money come from you want to support

another possible million plus citizens.

How many of them will be black people?

I would probably say 60 to 80% of them if people choose to come here, but if people choose

to come here, more on the level racism, I don't think they will stay here for very long

or I don't think they would choose to come at all.

All right.

Well, thank you much.

I appreciate your call.

I appreciate your comments.

You're listening to Truth Unfiltered, but we come back comments from Denise.

We've got Corey from Milwaukee hanging on.

We'll be getting back to this frightening story on the UW project maps.

Milwaukee's history of racist covenants.

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a five five six one six one six twenty before the break, we were talking about this article

from Wisconsin Examiner mapping racism and resistance in a really dark legacy for not

only the city, but the state of Wisconsin.

And so we've got Corey from Milwaukee.

You are on Truth Unfiltered.

Hey, what's up, Corey?

What's going on?

What's going on?

I'm good.

I'm good.

I'm good.

I agree with the caller that this called in.

I learned a little bit about redlining through the ALP program.

The Dr. Jeanette Mitchell has held on to for most of her life.

So I learned a lot about redlining and that project that UW is working on is in conjunction

with some of the information that they received around redlining and so that's a that's a very

dark history.

And so my question is what are they going to do with the findings or is it just merely

to state Milwaukee's dark history from a historical reference already really looking to to make

even even further change in the area with that information.

That's a good point.

That's a great point in terms of next steps, Corey.

They didn't formally share or communicate in terms of next steps.

However, although I wasn't part of this incredible project, as someone who works in the media

and someone who just like you appreciates information, I think this mapping racism

and resistance project was to expose discrimination and then encourage people however they choose

to to fight back.

It's a truth telling article and I think that's up to us as community members, whether

it's civil rights organizations, you know, black homeowners, faith communities, advocates

like yourself, if we know now because information is power, then that really, to me, that's

on us to take the information, to take this exposed discrimination and work as a community

to then outline to your point the what's next map, roadmap.

Yeah, I think it's important for future homeowners to be even strategic.

If they're committed to living in Milwaukee County, to be strategic knowing the redlining

history, Walatosa, one of the most egregious in the past of redlining and poem discrimination.

I think even Mayor McBride in 2020 even acknowledged that the history of Walatosa was not a

good one in terms of real estate.

So I think is African Americans buy homes throughout Milwaukee County to keep that in mind.

This don't buy in certain areas, do not be afraid to buy in areas that has that history.

You got to diversify them areas.

And so I just something for everybody to think about that that is committed to living in

the walkie-counting.

You know, Corey, one of the most powerful books I ever read came out in 2017.

It was a book by Richard Rothstein called The Color of Law.

A forgotten history of how our government segregated America.

I thought I knew what the government did in Wisconsin when they talked about redlining

and attorney hall who he since passed away, but you know, sued and won in the state of

Wisconsin, you know, redlining for insurance and all sorts of things that the government

was literally racially dividing through defacto segregation.

They created lines, walls, places where you can live, and you remember growing up and

I'm sure Denise does too.

We lived in the same neighborhood with the lawyer, the medical doctor, the accountant, and

the factory worker.

Your hard press to find that today.

Yeah.

Interesting.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, what does the word community, what does it really mean these days, right?

And so like-minded people tend to live where other like-minded people live, you know.

And so I think that word of community to your point, it meant something different as

we were growing up.

And so yeah, Milwaukee has a, it's a dark, I learned about it in 2019 and like the kids

say, I've been unable to unsee it.

Oh yeah.

So we, you know, it's just something to keep in the back of your mind as you think about

real estate.

You know, that's actually how Milwaukee was shaped.

That's a good topic.

Thank you, Corey, because I think one of the upcoming topics, Dr. Ken that we can unfilter

is community.

What does that mean in 2026?

Hmm.

Okay.

Because the Corey's point, to your point is like, yeah, we definitely need to unpack the

state of the, of the community, especially the black community.

Because I just heard, okay, let me, let me, I don't know if Corey's still on or not.

Yeah, he's still on.

Y'all's knee, y'all's knee jerk reaction.

And this is a little bit off topic.

But I, in my Instagram feed yesterday, a real came up, where was a younger black man.

If I had to guess his age, I would say he aged in, in range of 25 to 30.

So a younger adult.

And he was like, I don't understand why black people still talk about slavery, because only

1.4% of white people own slaves.

And I was just like, who are his parents?

Ready to go to school.

No, Dr. Ken, who, who is his mom and dad?

Because it starts from there.

Like, there were a lot of things that I, that look, I learned in school and I would come

home and sit down with my parents over dinner.

And my dad was like, no, that's false, that's not true.

And it wasn't.

But it's, the community, like you said, the like-mindedness, I just feel as though we have

to go back to the roots of community.

I don't know, Corey, what are your thoughts?

Yeah, I think, well, community, no, I'm here, I'm here.

I think community means something different to each person.

And so my community growing up for me was being around people that look like me.

Advances and social media and all of this different stuff.

People, communities are very different now.

It is very different.

I was born in the 70s.

So we're in 2025.

So I think as we get further away from certain time periods, people, interpretations

of what community and culture looks like is going to be different.

I think one of the things that destroyed it is we misused the word to the point where

we call, you know, I got a work community, I got a school community.

No, you really don't because that's not a community.

I don't take care of each other.

I don't make sure people get dressed, you don't make sure kids eat at home.

That's just a group.

But anyway, I think what I will say is when I look at the Asian American community, the

Caribbean community, the Arab American community, the Latino community, it is vastly different

and y'all can get mad at me because we can definitely go there.

It's vastly different from the from the black community.

Yes, it is.

For me, community is whether it's sunshine or storm.

We take care of each other.

We shop in our neighborhoods, as Cory had mentioned, we keep our dollars in our community

as long as we possibly can.

She went there.

Yeah.

See.

Well, I think you have to look at the, well, the black community, due to racism and things

like that, carries a negative connotation versus some of these other communities, and I

don't say they don't go through that, but you know, there's, there's a black cloud

just been cat over.

Yeah.

All right, I'm out to have everybody go to their corner because we're out of time, but

I know we got some dates coming up and I think that'll be a time we need to get Cory

in the seat and, and I'll, I'll bring the popcorn so I can, so I can listen to this conversation.

Cory, be ready.

You come in to studio, raise your snow.

All right.

Well, thank you to Denise Thomas.

Appreciate you.

Thank you, Cory.

Thank you, Evan.

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