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Ronnie Bo Tells Media Stories and Real Life Impact | The Tory Lowe Show
The Truth Interviews · Fri Jan 9, 2026
101 7 the truth. Tori Lowe. Tori Lowe show live from American family
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right here on 101 7 are true. Thank you for joining me for the second hour
of the Tori Lowe show. And we got yes. We got Milwaukee's own running
boat in studio Milwaukee native author entertainer analysts. I mean you you got
so many hats from Titton Berla. I'm happy that you came through.
Running boat you right you you are author now you know when did you start writing
books and what is your message many times when you sit down to write books. I
started writing in 2010 when I was incarcerated you know I was before then I was
passionate about rapping so I was campaigning on on a rapping side so when I got
locked up I just felt discouraged like my career was on hold I had the
four years so I wanted to find somebody to keep me active and productive
basically so it was crazy because like I was reading a lot of books and the
type of books that I was reading I felt like our culture needed to study but I
noticed that people like me who you know come from the lifestyle that I come
from they that was only interested in reading like novels like hood novels
stuff that it keep you like mentally just off off track you know I'm
saying like keep you on the same stuff they got you locked up so my thing I
wanted to find a way to sneak some knowledge in that they would be
interested in reading so I put a book out called a trap that was like it gave
them the hood stories like my real life hood stories but it also threw in the
type of knowledge that I think people like Michael makes and Dr. King will want
the culture to have today so it seems like when you talk about where you
from and we came from Milwaukee where it's one of the most massively incarcerated
environments also it seems like when we live in Milwaukee it seemed like we got
to lift a thousand pounds but once we get outside of Milwaukee we realize that
lifting in Milwaukee creates us to be in spaces in spots of production behind
the scenes working with people getting to know people I think Milwaukee people
got a certain kind of swag when we out and about when we talk about being in
the industry being an artist how many people did you mean how how did that go
being in the industry as a Milwaukee artist well I did 21 months incarcerated
with our killing okay like that's like the only real industry figure that I
could say that I know and it was just ironic he ended up getting died it like
a few months after I got oh wow yeah so you was actually in jail talking with
chaos yeah MCC Chicago okay so what was this conversation like is he all right
okay I already have blood clots and stuff like that is how's this health is
that just rumors no he had health problems but you know kills that that was his
first time being incarcerated so I think he was more so trying to find any
reason any excuse to get out on bail at the time so he was complaining about
every little health issue I got you like he got his toe got infected one time
taking a shower and he used that as a reason he to get out on bail
you know so oh wow there was like any little thing that he could think of as a
reason to get out on bail you know like from blood clocks or whatever I think he
had diabetes and yes so he he was just trying to get out basically and and as you
talk to him did he tell you anything about his in music journey did what kind
of stories was he trying to tell well we don't we don't mainstream media so
some of some of them still you know I don't mind it's it's your platform we can't we can't swear
but I mean just oh yeah yeah no swear words but everything else pretty much
probably we can check into well the the main things I wanted to know you know we
hear conspiracy theories about stuff like illuminati right and and sacrifices
and stuff like that so it's a real I wanted to yeah I wanted to know was that type
of stuff real and he kind of confirmed it some of that stuff was real he was
spiteful about how his situation with Jay Z went so you know I wasn't the only
person he was telling these stories like the whole the whole jail could vouch
that you know he has some crazy stories about Jay Z and he basically said Jay Z
was like a a sell out like as far as selling your soul and he basically felt
like well Kanye West kind of alluded to a lot of that too yeah yeah that stuff
real bro like you know I have real out of our conversations with Art Kelly
and he was bothered by some of the stuff he went through in the industry and
I know how people look at him people got the right to look at him as a creep
or whatever for for certain things but his thing was basically and this was
before you know did he situation right so our Kelly was basically paying the
picture that he was targeted for a reason he was basically saying we all got
reasons we could be locked up you know I mean like even with with Jay Z and
and Foxy Brown you know it was similar to our Kelly situation with Alia so
he was saying basically like they got allegations of mess with younger females
too so basically why the government didn't indict them that was his thing he
was he was saying they they targeted him for a reason and because he didn't want
to comply with certain things that you have to do in that industry he made a song
residuals he didn't made a remix to residuals where he was talking about he didn't
he don't even know who got his roots like a lot of times we see these
artists and it looked glamorous the fame yeah but on the back end I think we're
starting to see that that's all it was it wasn't no economic stability on the
back end yeah for show see our Kelly catalog was worth 1.2 billion right oh wow
and he still had the tour to take care of himself and his family financially
oh wow when he was technically worth 1.2 billion dollars like we put his catalog yeah
like we're talking about somebody who wrote songs for Michael Jackson and and every
other uh mega star damn near in that industry so you know uh he was supposed to be
announced as a billionaire before Jay Z or Kanye or or any of them we all know how big our Kelly
was our Kelly was like one of the biggest R&B artists they call them the king of R&B
yeah yeah when you talk about being uh in jail with our Kelly what stuck out the most to you
like if you had to tell somebody about that experience one thing about that experience
that stuck out to you the most or something that our Kelly wanted people to know what would that be
well I had my own situation with the government right like I was really
framed in it indictment as a member of a drug trafficking organization based in Chicago right
and then of that was true now people who know me from Milwaukee especially
coming up from uh 10th and burla 10th and ring you know people will perceive me as a dope boy
whatever and I'm not saying I never was a dope boy but the fact that the matter is I was not
selling drugs at that time you know and they framed me in a case as a member of a
Chicago based drug trafficking organization and allegedly I was uh going to Chicago to get a
large amounts of heroin and bringing it back to Milwaukee and serving Milwaukee drug dealers
this is with the fair say so with me being framed in a case and and here our Kelly story he
felt like he was framed you know and and so it was like a parallel situation so I didn't I didn't
look at him how everybody else looked at him I looked at him from the perspective that uh you
know when two part became icon he was framed in a six case uh went when Mike Tyson became an icon he
was framed in a six case uh Bill Cosby was framed in a six case Kobe Bryant was framed in a six case
so I'm looking at it like that like for some reason when uh certain black men become iconic
they uh get framed in a six case so that's that's how I'm looking at it you know I mean so uh
that stood out to me because I got the norm as a person and since personality I just didn't believe
a lot of the things that was portrayed about him on uh surviving the surviving archery document
series with the women sometimes uh these victims many times when we when it's a person of fame
when it came to our Kelly some parents would be involved in their daughters being with our Kelly
did taking them to him yeah that's what that's exactly what was going on and you got to think like
even let's use a car for example right before a car moved out of the United States he was about
to be framed in a six case as well now he had a event where it was 21 and older right and uh
somehow a 14 year old girl got in and got on stage with him and he linked up with her you know
afterwards but he looking at it like everybody in here got to be 21 so he not thinking that
it's a possibility that this young lady could be 14 and so uh yeah he he basically he lost a lot
of sponsorships for that and uh you know it just it just go on bro and we are Kelly like
the parents was really like basically selling eight daughters to him you know uh if they had
the daughters they feel like attractive they had come to our Kelly and say look my my daughter
is a huge fan she she want to meet you and it takes messages like I saw his paperwork it's test
takes messages from the parents to the daughters why they wear our Kelly the mama's telling them
do this say this to him you know try to get him wow yeah so yeah kind of coaching the situation
yeah they they was coaching eight daughters to finesse them and then like you know our Kelly
was was doing things financially for the daughters and the parents so so he did he know
that these kids they were these were kids when at the time of intercourse I don't I don't know bro
I don't I don't think so like from from his words and people that know him uh he would just like
in the ACON situation like at these events you possibly be 21 and older like most of our Kelly
events it was the same way you got to be at least 18 or older so this where he was meeting these
females so he looking at it like if if they was at my events they adults you know what I mean
and this is what he want the public to know this is the stuff that he was trying to say
that maybe didn't get in the media yeah uh what immediate was just like surviving our Kelly
he did all of this to these young girls uh he's a he's a horrible human being because he was
dating underage people and then I guess uh with Alia the Alia situation came in where she was a young
girl and that was on record that uh or I guess it was a marriage certificate somewhere now
well let me run the break we go I want to get to this Alia situation when we get back we've got
runny bow author in studio Milwaukee native truth nations stay like them
101 seven or true Tory low Tory low show in studio with runny bow we got guests running bow
in studio author I say uh entertainment analyst because you analyze a lot of the things about
the game I see you on podcasts and things like that talking about your experiences and things like
that and if you want to I think it was the blue couch I think that what what was that is the art
of dialogue is that which what podcast you talk about real life street stars yeah real life street
stars that's the one um uh many times like when we have street stories they don't make it to
the mainstream you know what I mean and what you're talking about with our Kelly is from your personal
interactions with our Kelly like you you you did time at the same time as our Kelly at many times
like those conversations don't make it out to the mainstream uh many times we get the criminal
report you know what I mean so thank you for just bringing your experience onto the Tory low
show today once again we in the studio with runny bow Milwaukee native tenth and bird lie in the
studio author uh you know before we went to break we was talking about our Kelly's relationship with
Alia we was about to get into that because I was talking about some kind of marriage certificate
there with her what was that oh from your knowledge of from what you understand about that okay well
our Kelly was signed to Barry hankerson I think the label was uh black ground records right
and uh Barry hankerson was Alia's uncle so Barry hankerson was trying to break Alia in the industry
and who was better to do it than our Kelly right so uh he linked them and our Kelly basically
mentored Alia for a while and then it was a publicity stuff on the hands of Barry hankerson to
say that they was married you know that industry at the time especially they was promoting
like under age six you got to think aging number the number exactly aging number the numbers so
that that was programming young ladies to feel like and and I guess you can say a dark man
it feel like well aging but a number you know our Kelly got songs where he's saying you you young
but you ready it and stuff you might be young but you're ready ready to learn
so I think a lot of people was just thinking they wasn't thinking about
somebody really just doing it like on like a pedophile level you know what I mean yeah but you
got to think of the movie belly it's a scene in there where a 16 year old was uh performing uh
the old right right I don't want to say right I don't want to make you lose your sponsor yeah don't
don't do that yeah but uh that's probably ready young so yeah so this this
love philosophy or whatever you want to call it was being pushed on our culture and I want to
make a point that right you know uh for some reason the media don't talk about the fact that 8 million
children go missing every year 22,000 children per day go missing per year and uh it hit
home with with uh the lady that I referred to as the goddess the lady who linked us it hit home
with her daughter and uh I don't I don't know if we should well everybody familiar with Alexis
Patterson right so it hit home with Alexis Patterson and now that I know the goddess and hearing
you know everything that happened with that situation is just shocking and disturbing and it's
like the media will push our Kelly and how much of a creep or or surviving our cat oh he is
but we not talk while we're not talking about the other uh the the children is going missing
and and being like tortured and and and sacrificed right what the thing is when we talk about we got
to talk about that because many times because I deal with a lot of human trafficking things too like
I I've rescued a lot of girls from human trafficking so I know that they don't talk about it because
when you start digging up the ladder the ladder goes high up beyond and when it's our young black
girls it's not talked about and when I came home I started posting it I didn't want them to talk
about it I was gonna talk about it because I noticed that when they label a young black girl a run
away she gets no resources which leaves her open for people to take her and put her in the space
of human trafficking you know what I mean so when I came home I noticed that the mother would say
hey my daughter missing toy and I'd be like why didn't you go to the police and they was like
because they're not going to do nothing and I say why they was like well she ran away before
so you got like one or two times when you run away that they're going to give you a little resource
after that you go and say your daughter missing it's not going they're not going to do nothing
so that leaves the gate open for whatever is out there in the street to kind of have
presidents so I noticed that and from there I just started making sure that when soon when soon
somebody told me that they daughter was missing I went like that I didn't have to wait for the police
and that's when I started realizing a lot about how Milwaukee worked how people move here in
Milwaukee how there's so many holes to operate in in this city because when it happens to black
children when it happens to black men when it happens to black women the response is not at a high
level unless it's homicide or unless it's like something definite where they can get it all at one time
so I started realizing that and I said if we don't start taking action on our own issues we
gonna still be wondering why they not doing this and why they not doing that so I don't ask why they
not doing it I ask like why we not doing it because we the streets the streets know everything
matter of fact if something happened in Milwaukee they got to come to the street to get the
information where we live so I think that we have to take more control over the narratives but like
I said Hugh Heffner he was able to operate and out in the public with playboy bunnies
he never got accused of anything and many of them was teenagers right they were young girls they
were younger than that they got the vice documentary about Hugh Heffner now where the people are
coming forward talking about him now in his death they waited to he died to tell the truth about
it but Bill Cosby did he our Kelly data face it is but they're not the ones that did it the worst
like they it's not good at all but they are the face of it all of us said
yeah that's crazy yeah actually when you got people like Epstein you know
uh and uh you know our Kelly brother Bruce Kelly came out in a podcast last year I believe it was
and he basically confirmed you know my relations to our Kelly but he also he also pointed out
that he felt like I'm putting our Kelly life in danger by speaking out all certain things and
they asked me to stop speaking on certain things like to fall back but I think I think I'm actually
helping our Kelly more than than hurting them or putting this life in danger because certain
things need to be spoken about like before me all you heard about was surviving our Kelly and how
much of a creepy is but right now you know you got somebody who doesn't have sit down with the man
and giving the media in the public a different perspective of our Kelly so I mean it's my story
so right I'm gonna continue to speak and and one thing that I haven't really spoke much about
was the fact I know it's been uh it's a conspiracy theory that our Kelly video uh Fiesta uh
remix with Jay Z with shot on Epstein Island and uh according to our Kelly you know I'm pro
I guess I'm supposed to keep that a secret but that was actually confirmed and uh you know people
like Epstein it's people like like like real creeps worst creeps that our Kelly who actually
pay people to bring underage girls to them and they they sing our Kelly influence you know rather
people and want to admit it or not especially in this culture every female wanted our Kelly uh
about 20 years ago you know or or even 30 years ago and in the 90s when he when he had all these hits
you know the pipe pipe yeah they all wanted a piece of our Kelly and so creeps like Epstein
seeing that wanted to use people like our Kelly to to draw in these uh young females and and
bring them to islands and stuff like that and our Kelly despite what people think about them
he didn't want to be a part of that agenda and and that's the main reason why they targeted him
and uh I won't say the main reason because you know a lot of they want his roads yeah that's
that's another factor a huge factor was the fact that you know they didn't want him
gaining this public to touch that 1.2 billion dollars did he worth and it's crazy bro being
locked though our Kelly you would think he would be well taken care of in there but he wasn't
you know the the most he had on his books was like 20,000 and then they just took all that uh
off his books and and one day from out of nowhere and and from there you know he would he was
struggling you know he barely had support he probably had literally like one or two people
there was actually therefore him who he can call and that was still there supporting him his his
girlfriend the uh I believe this is fiance now uh young lady she was coming up there every day
in mcc Chicago it's not like being in Milwaukee County or msdf here you know here you can't
see out the windows where we was locked up at in the metro piloting a correctional center of
Chicago to be exact you can see outside the window right and uh it's like parking structures
you know mcc Chicago is a skyscraper so it's like parking structures right next to the building
and people's family friends girlfriends coming there and you know why if you can see him outside
the window so she was coming outside to do that to see him every day but she didn't have
money to like support him financially like she was all he was saying he's broke yeah like
broke broke well look when we come back we got Ronnie Boe Milwaukee's own in studio author
entertainment analysts in the studio when we come back we'll have more discussion truth
nations stay like them
101 seven the true Tory low Tory low show another powerful conversation with Ronnie Boe Milwaukee
author Hollywood analysts he did time with our Kelly uh he knows a lot about the street culture
and I'm happy that you came in because like I said sometimes we got to have these conversations
these real conversations and you're just talking your experience like what you seen what you heard
what you had to deal with and I appreciate you bringing that on to the platform because many times
we don't get that street conversation we get political conversations we get trauma conversations
we get resource conversations but we don't get that 10th and bird lot conversation so I appreciate
you for that and your author too so how can people keep up with you with your books but what you
trying to do well you know what I've been doing lately is I've been giving out my one of my personal
cell phone numbers on platforms because every time I go viral on a platform like Facebook
or Instagram like they keep taking my pages so sometimes I even set up ghost pages does not
and Ronnie Boe name so I want to send a message to those who incarcerated you know anybody who
contact me who incarcerated I send you a free copy of my book the trap scriptures uh you can
reach me at four one four eight one zero nine zero nine zero and anybody who knows somebody this
incarcerated rather this your brother your your baby daddy your father whatever uh I want to
reach out to those who incarcerated because they forgotten about and I know because I've been
I did ten years of my life incarcerated and I was forgotten about you know even from people
took care of and a lot of people that's incarcerated especially denying violent inmates like
this locked up for drug cases you know some most of them locked up for just trying to provide and
you know take care of themselves they family and they kids they probably didn't know another way
they probably didn't have a father or a friend they could teach them real estate or or how to uh you
know get a trade and and do things the right way so you know it's it's tempting to uh sell drugs
because you can make a lot of money quick but it's it's a lot of good people it's locked up for
selling drugs and the way the government set up like I explained it's eight million kids go missing
per year and it's it's more operations and investigations on uh young black man who sell drugs
than it is those who kidnapped and then and uh molesting kids so uh I want to reach out to them
and and empower them and again the numbers 4148109090 and anybody else in any community
they reach out up I I'm giving out free ebooks I could take it to you I could email it to you
other than that just like google runny bow you know or type in runny bow on youtube
facebook I still have new pages that I created on facebook and instagram just look up runny bow and uh
you know I'm gonna give you the last words because many times we have these conversations and we
talk about a lot of different things but I want to give you the last words what do you want the
people listening to know uh man there's so many things we don't have much right much time
on here but basically uh my focus right now is healing you know when we come up from environments
like 10th and ring 10th and burly you know uh I grew up shout out to my my parents but I grew up
in the in the crack pandemic so my parents uh fell victim to that they was using certain drugs
so I don't feel like I was uh raised properly you know I started selling drugs when I was 11
so of course I wasn't raised with the right parental guidance and I grew up damaged mentally
and emotionally so I'm I'm healing shout out to uh a yana spiritual healing because uh she
been providing me with tools and resources that I could use to heal myself mentally and I would say
that that would be my closing message like let's let's heal you know it's it's a lot of violence
and conflict and dysfunction going on in our families and communities and we all need to heal you
know uh and and I'm going through a healing process like I'm not judging nobody uh I need to be
healed and and I think we all do so you know uh shout out to uh a yana spiritual healing again I
think a lot of people should looking to that and and reach out to her because you know she
been through some things her daughter was a kidnapped while she was a young lady and I don't know
how she still so mentally strong right now but she's an example of a of a strong black woman I
call her uh the goddess because you know the the wisdom and the things that she know her her healing
methods uh she really like like a goddess so uh I think people should you know just have a
reality check with themselves and just realize that they need to be healed like we all need to be
healed and uh it's a new year so I think the healing process should start now and what is your
advice to the youth that's out here in that crash out era for those that are listening we got a
lot of youth that listen to the show what do you want to say to the youth that's listening right now
I just want them to take they they time bro because I started going to jail at the early age like
I said I started selling drugs at 11 by 12 I caught my first case and uh in a in a sense I kind
of messed my life up I became a felon before I was a dog and they say a a felony can't affect you
when you catch it as a juvenile it won't it won't come into your adult uh years but that's a lie
when when I caught a uh a gun case as an adult they charged me with felon with a firearm based on
my juvenile record so it's like the streets is not even worth it no more you know I mean like
there's too many rats out here you know even people who ain't rats they become rats because they
can't handle the pressure of of going to jail some people can't do a day in jail you know I mean like
you don't want to go through that I've been through it I don't want to see no other young black man
go through that so I would say be patient and and just find other things to do than to get involved
in the streets and I know it's so easy because you know in our culture in our environment it's not
really no love it's not a lot of uh real community activities to keep them busy and productive
but just uh you know it's so many other things that we can do in the world other than get involved
in the streets and sell drugs and and and ride people so yeah just and and if you don't have no
guidance if you know how to read read my books look up Ronnie Ball Amazon or Barnes and Noble
it's it's a lot of knowledge and wisdom actually being from Milwaukee you can relate to it
yeah for sure that's powerful hey look we appreciate you for coming in and like I said keep me up
to date on what you're doing because I want to make sure we keep continuing how these real conversations
as we go through 2026 a lot of these young kids like you said and that we know that you know they
not abide by no rules they moving on their own frequency and uh we have to make sure that we
insert ourselves as the new elders in the community and try to at least get them in the space
where we can have the healing to take place we got to heal the village in 2026 for sure thanks for
having me bro hey no problem hey look when we come back truth nation we'll have more conversations
thank you Ronnie Beau for stopping through Milwaukee native Tinton Burla author analysts I appreciate
much love and respect