Ronnie Bo Tells Media Stories and Real Life Impact | The Tory Lowe Show

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Ronnie Bo Tells Media Stories and Real Life Impact | The Tory Lowe Show

The Truth Interviews · Fri Jan 9, 2026

101 7 the truth. Tori Lowe. Tori Lowe show live from American family

insurance studio at the Avenue. The movement continues. The marathon continues

right here on 101 7 are true. Thank you for joining me for the second hour

of the Tori Lowe show. And we got yes. We got Milwaukee's own running

boat in studio Milwaukee native author entertainer analysts. I mean you you got

so many hats from Titton Berla. I'm happy that you came through.

Running boat you right you you are author now you know when did you start writing

books and what is your message many times when you sit down to write books. I

started writing in 2010 when I was incarcerated you know I was before then I was

passionate about rapping so I was campaigning on on a rapping side so when I got

locked up I just felt discouraged like my career was on hold I had the

four years so I wanted to find somebody to keep me active and productive

basically so it was crazy because like I was reading a lot of books and the

type of books that I was reading I felt like our culture needed to study but I

noticed that people like me who you know come from the lifestyle that I come

from they that was only interested in reading like novels like hood novels

stuff that it keep you like mentally just off off track you know I'm

saying like keep you on the same stuff they got you locked up so my thing I

wanted to find a way to sneak some knowledge in that they would be

interested in reading so I put a book out called a trap that was like it gave

them the hood stories like my real life hood stories but it also threw in the

type of knowledge that I think people like Michael makes and Dr. King will want

the culture to have today so it seems like when you talk about where you

from and we came from Milwaukee where it's one of the most massively incarcerated

environments also it seems like when we live in Milwaukee it seemed like we got

to lift a thousand pounds but once we get outside of Milwaukee we realize that

lifting in Milwaukee creates us to be in spaces in spots of production behind

the scenes working with people getting to know people I think Milwaukee people

got a certain kind of swag when we out and about when we talk about being in

the industry being an artist how many people did you mean how how did that go

being in the industry as a Milwaukee artist well I did 21 months incarcerated

with our killing okay like that's like the only real industry figure that I

could say that I know and it was just ironic he ended up getting died it like

a few months after I got oh wow yeah so you was actually in jail talking with

chaos yeah MCC Chicago okay so what was this conversation like is he all right

okay I already have blood clots and stuff like that is how's this health is

that just rumors no he had health problems but you know kills that that was his

first time being incarcerated so I think he was more so trying to find any

reason any excuse to get out on bail at the time so he was complaining about

every little health issue I got you like he got his toe got infected one time

taking a shower and he used that as a reason he to get out on bail

you know so oh wow there was like any little thing that he could think of as a

reason to get out on bail you know like from blood clocks or whatever I think he

had diabetes and yes so he he was just trying to get out basically and and as you

talk to him did he tell you anything about his in music journey did what kind

of stories was he trying to tell well we don't we don't mainstream media so

some of some of them still you know I don't mind it's it's your platform we can't we can't swear

but I mean just oh yeah yeah no swear words but everything else pretty much

probably we can check into well the the main things I wanted to know you know we

hear conspiracy theories about stuff like illuminati right and and sacrifices

and stuff like that so it's a real I wanted to yeah I wanted to know was that type

of stuff real and he kind of confirmed it some of that stuff was real he was

spiteful about how his situation with Jay Z went so you know I wasn't the only

person he was telling these stories like the whole the whole jail could vouch

that you know he has some crazy stories about Jay Z and he basically said Jay Z

was like a a sell out like as far as selling your soul and he basically felt

like well Kanye West kind of alluded to a lot of that too yeah yeah that stuff

real bro like you know I have real out of our conversations with Art Kelly

and he was bothered by some of the stuff he went through in the industry and

I know how people look at him people got the right to look at him as a creep

or whatever for for certain things but his thing was basically and this was

before you know did he situation right so our Kelly was basically paying the

picture that he was targeted for a reason he was basically saying we all got

reasons we could be locked up you know I mean like even with with Jay Z and

and Foxy Brown you know it was similar to our Kelly situation with Alia so

he was saying basically like they got allegations of mess with younger females

too so basically why the government didn't indict them that was his thing he

was he was saying they they targeted him for a reason and because he didn't want

to comply with certain things that you have to do in that industry he made a song

residuals he didn't made a remix to residuals where he was talking about he didn't

he don't even know who got his roots like a lot of times we see these

artists and it looked glamorous the fame yeah but on the back end I think we're

starting to see that that's all it was it wasn't no economic stability on the

back end yeah for show see our Kelly catalog was worth 1.2 billion right oh wow

and he still had the tour to take care of himself and his family financially

oh wow when he was technically worth 1.2 billion dollars like we put his catalog yeah

like we're talking about somebody who wrote songs for Michael Jackson and and every

other uh mega star damn near in that industry so you know uh he was supposed to be

announced as a billionaire before Jay Z or Kanye or or any of them we all know how big our Kelly

was our Kelly was like one of the biggest R&B artists they call them the king of R&B

yeah yeah when you talk about being uh in jail with our Kelly what stuck out the most to you

like if you had to tell somebody about that experience one thing about that experience

that stuck out to you the most or something that our Kelly wanted people to know what would that be

well I had my own situation with the government right like I was really

framed in it indictment as a member of a drug trafficking organization based in Chicago right

and then of that was true now people who know me from Milwaukee especially

coming up from uh 10th and burla 10th and ring you know people will perceive me as a dope boy

whatever and I'm not saying I never was a dope boy but the fact that the matter is I was not

selling drugs at that time you know and they framed me in a case as a member of a

Chicago based drug trafficking organization and allegedly I was uh going to Chicago to get a

large amounts of heroin and bringing it back to Milwaukee and serving Milwaukee drug dealers

this is with the fair say so with me being framed in a case and and here our Kelly story he

felt like he was framed you know and and so it was like a parallel situation so I didn't I didn't

look at him how everybody else looked at him I looked at him from the perspective that uh you

know when two part became icon he was framed in a six case uh went when Mike Tyson became an icon he

was framed in a six case uh Bill Cosby was framed in a six case Kobe Bryant was framed in a six case

so I'm looking at it like that like for some reason when uh certain black men become iconic

they uh get framed in a six case so that's that's how I'm looking at it you know I mean so uh

that stood out to me because I got the norm as a person and since personality I just didn't believe

a lot of the things that was portrayed about him on uh surviving the surviving archery document

series with the women sometimes uh these victims many times when we when it's a person of fame

when it came to our Kelly some parents would be involved in their daughters being with our Kelly

did taking them to him yeah that's what that's exactly what was going on and you got to think like

even let's use a car for example right before a car moved out of the United States he was about

to be framed in a six case as well now he had a event where it was 21 and older right and uh

somehow a 14 year old girl got in and got on stage with him and he linked up with her you know

afterwards but he looking at it like everybody in here got to be 21 so he not thinking that

it's a possibility that this young lady could be 14 and so uh yeah he he basically he lost a lot

of sponsorships for that and uh you know it just it just go on bro and we are Kelly like

the parents was really like basically selling eight daughters to him you know uh if they had

the daughters they feel like attractive they had come to our Kelly and say look my my daughter

is a huge fan she she want to meet you and it takes messages like I saw his paperwork it's test

takes messages from the parents to the daughters why they wear our Kelly the mama's telling them

do this say this to him you know try to get him wow yeah so yeah kind of coaching the situation

yeah they they was coaching eight daughters to finesse them and then like you know our Kelly

was was doing things financially for the daughters and the parents so so he did he know

that these kids they were these were kids when at the time of intercourse I don't I don't know bro

I don't I don't think so like from from his words and people that know him uh he would just like

in the ACON situation like at these events you possibly be 21 and older like most of our Kelly

events it was the same way you got to be at least 18 or older so this where he was meeting these

females so he looking at it like if if they was at my events they adults you know what I mean

and this is what he want the public to know this is the stuff that he was trying to say

that maybe didn't get in the media yeah uh what immediate was just like surviving our Kelly

he did all of this to these young girls uh he's a he's a horrible human being because he was

dating underage people and then I guess uh with Alia the Alia situation came in where she was a young

girl and that was on record that uh or I guess it was a marriage certificate somewhere now

well let me run the break we go I want to get to this Alia situation when we get back we've got

runny bow author in studio Milwaukee native truth nations stay like them

101 seven or true Tory low Tory low show in studio with runny bow we got guests running bow

in studio author I say uh entertainment analyst because you analyze a lot of the things about

the game I see you on podcasts and things like that talking about your experiences and things like

that and if you want to I think it was the blue couch I think that what what was that is the art

of dialogue is that which what podcast you talk about real life street stars yeah real life street

stars that's the one um uh many times like when we have street stories they don't make it to

the mainstream you know what I mean and what you're talking about with our Kelly is from your personal

interactions with our Kelly like you you you did time at the same time as our Kelly at many times

like those conversations don't make it out to the mainstream uh many times we get the criminal

report you know what I mean so thank you for just bringing your experience onto the Tory low

show today once again we in the studio with runny bow Milwaukee native tenth and bird lie in the

studio author uh you know before we went to break we was talking about our Kelly's relationship with

Alia we was about to get into that because I was talking about some kind of marriage certificate

there with her what was that oh from your knowledge of from what you understand about that okay well

our Kelly was signed to Barry hankerson I think the label was uh black ground records right

and uh Barry hankerson was Alia's uncle so Barry hankerson was trying to break Alia in the industry

and who was better to do it than our Kelly right so uh he linked them and our Kelly basically

mentored Alia for a while and then it was a publicity stuff on the hands of Barry hankerson to

say that they was married you know that industry at the time especially they was promoting

like under age six you got to think aging number the number exactly aging number the numbers so

that that was programming young ladies to feel like and and I guess you can say a dark man

it feel like well aging but a number you know our Kelly got songs where he's saying you you young

but you ready it and stuff you might be young but you're ready ready to learn

so I think a lot of people was just thinking they wasn't thinking about

somebody really just doing it like on like a pedophile level you know what I mean yeah but you

got to think of the movie belly it's a scene in there where a 16 year old was uh performing uh

the old right right I don't want to say right I don't want to make you lose your sponsor yeah don't

don't do that yeah but uh that's probably ready young so yeah so this this

love philosophy or whatever you want to call it was being pushed on our culture and I want to

make a point that right you know uh for some reason the media don't talk about the fact that 8 million

children go missing every year 22,000 children per day go missing per year and uh it hit

home with with uh the lady that I referred to as the goddess the lady who linked us it hit home

with her daughter and uh I don't I don't know if we should well everybody familiar with Alexis

Patterson right so it hit home with Alexis Patterson and now that I know the goddess and hearing

you know everything that happened with that situation is just shocking and disturbing and it's

like the media will push our Kelly and how much of a creep or or surviving our cat oh he is

but we not talk while we're not talking about the other uh the the children is going missing

and and being like tortured and and and sacrificed right what the thing is when we talk about we got

to talk about that because many times because I deal with a lot of human trafficking things too like

I I've rescued a lot of girls from human trafficking so I know that they don't talk about it because

when you start digging up the ladder the ladder goes high up beyond and when it's our young black

girls it's not talked about and when I came home I started posting it I didn't want them to talk

about it I was gonna talk about it because I noticed that when they label a young black girl a run

away she gets no resources which leaves her open for people to take her and put her in the space

of human trafficking you know what I mean so when I came home I noticed that the mother would say

hey my daughter missing toy and I'd be like why didn't you go to the police and they was like

because they're not going to do nothing and I say why they was like well she ran away before

so you got like one or two times when you run away that they're going to give you a little resource

after that you go and say your daughter missing it's not going they're not going to do nothing

so that leaves the gate open for whatever is out there in the street to kind of have

presidents so I noticed that and from there I just started making sure that when soon when soon

somebody told me that they daughter was missing I went like that I didn't have to wait for the police

and that's when I started realizing a lot about how Milwaukee worked how people move here in

Milwaukee how there's so many holes to operate in in this city because when it happens to black

children when it happens to black men when it happens to black women the response is not at a high

level unless it's homicide or unless it's like something definite where they can get it all at one time

so I started realizing that and I said if we don't start taking action on our own issues we

gonna still be wondering why they not doing this and why they not doing that so I don't ask why they

not doing it I ask like why we not doing it because we the streets the streets know everything

matter of fact if something happened in Milwaukee they got to come to the street to get the

information where we live so I think that we have to take more control over the narratives but like

I said Hugh Heffner he was able to operate and out in the public with playboy bunnies

he never got accused of anything and many of them was teenagers right they were young girls they

were younger than that they got the vice documentary about Hugh Heffner now where the people are

coming forward talking about him now in his death they waited to he died to tell the truth about

it but Bill Cosby did he our Kelly data face it is but they're not the ones that did it the worst

like they it's not good at all but they are the face of it all of us said

yeah that's crazy yeah actually when you got people like Epstein you know

uh and uh you know our Kelly brother Bruce Kelly came out in a podcast last year I believe it was

and he basically confirmed you know my relations to our Kelly but he also he also pointed out

that he felt like I'm putting our Kelly life in danger by speaking out all certain things and

they asked me to stop speaking on certain things like to fall back but I think I think I'm actually

helping our Kelly more than than hurting them or putting this life in danger because certain

things need to be spoken about like before me all you heard about was surviving our Kelly and how

much of a creepy is but right now you know you got somebody who doesn't have sit down with the man

and giving the media in the public a different perspective of our Kelly so I mean it's my story

so right I'm gonna continue to speak and and one thing that I haven't really spoke much about

was the fact I know it's been uh it's a conspiracy theory that our Kelly video uh Fiesta uh

remix with Jay Z with shot on Epstein Island and uh according to our Kelly you know I'm pro

I guess I'm supposed to keep that a secret but that was actually confirmed and uh you know people

like Epstein it's people like like like real creeps worst creeps that our Kelly who actually

pay people to bring underage girls to them and they they sing our Kelly influence you know rather

people and want to admit it or not especially in this culture every female wanted our Kelly uh

about 20 years ago you know or or even 30 years ago and in the 90s when he when he had all these hits

you know the pipe pipe yeah they all wanted a piece of our Kelly and so creeps like Epstein

seeing that wanted to use people like our Kelly to to draw in these uh young females and and

bring them to islands and stuff like that and our Kelly despite what people think about them

he didn't want to be a part of that agenda and and that's the main reason why they targeted him

and uh I won't say the main reason because you know a lot of they want his roads yeah that's

that's another factor a huge factor was the fact that you know they didn't want him

gaining this public to touch that 1.2 billion dollars did he worth and it's crazy bro being

locked though our Kelly you would think he would be well taken care of in there but he wasn't

you know the the most he had on his books was like 20,000 and then they just took all that uh

off his books and and one day from out of nowhere and and from there you know he would he was

struggling you know he barely had support he probably had literally like one or two people

there was actually therefore him who he can call and that was still there supporting him his his

girlfriend the uh I believe this is fiance now uh young lady she was coming up there every day

in mcc Chicago it's not like being in Milwaukee County or msdf here you know here you can't

see out the windows where we was locked up at in the metro piloting a correctional center of

Chicago to be exact you can see outside the window right and uh it's like parking structures

you know mcc Chicago is a skyscraper so it's like parking structures right next to the building

and people's family friends girlfriends coming there and you know why if you can see him outside

the window so she was coming outside to do that to see him every day but she didn't have

money to like support him financially like she was all he was saying he's broke yeah like

broke broke well look when we come back we got Ronnie Boe Milwaukee's own in studio author

entertainment analysts in the studio when we come back we'll have more discussion truth

nations stay like them

101 seven the true Tory low Tory low show another powerful conversation with Ronnie Boe Milwaukee

author Hollywood analysts he did time with our Kelly uh he knows a lot about the street culture

and I'm happy that you came in because like I said sometimes we got to have these conversations

these real conversations and you're just talking your experience like what you seen what you heard

what you had to deal with and I appreciate you bringing that on to the platform because many times

we don't get that street conversation we get political conversations we get trauma conversations

we get resource conversations but we don't get that 10th and bird lot conversation so I appreciate

you for that and your author too so how can people keep up with you with your books but what you

trying to do well you know what I've been doing lately is I've been giving out my one of my personal

cell phone numbers on platforms because every time I go viral on a platform like Facebook

or Instagram like they keep taking my pages so sometimes I even set up ghost pages does not

and Ronnie Boe name so I want to send a message to those who incarcerated you know anybody who

contact me who incarcerated I send you a free copy of my book the trap scriptures uh you can

reach me at four one four eight one zero nine zero nine zero and anybody who knows somebody this

incarcerated rather this your brother your your baby daddy your father whatever uh I want to

reach out to those who incarcerated because they forgotten about and I know because I've been

I did ten years of my life incarcerated and I was forgotten about you know even from people

took care of and a lot of people that's incarcerated especially denying violent inmates like

this locked up for drug cases you know some most of them locked up for just trying to provide and

you know take care of themselves they family and they kids they probably didn't know another way

they probably didn't have a father or a friend they could teach them real estate or or how to uh you

know get a trade and and do things the right way so you know it's it's tempting to uh sell drugs

because you can make a lot of money quick but it's it's a lot of good people it's locked up for

selling drugs and the way the government set up like I explained it's eight million kids go missing

per year and it's it's more operations and investigations on uh young black man who sell drugs

than it is those who kidnapped and then and uh molesting kids so uh I want to reach out to them

and and empower them and again the numbers 4148109090 and anybody else in any community

they reach out up I I'm giving out free ebooks I could take it to you I could email it to you

other than that just like google runny bow you know or type in runny bow on youtube

facebook I still have new pages that I created on facebook and instagram just look up runny bow and uh

you know I'm gonna give you the last words because many times we have these conversations and we

talk about a lot of different things but I want to give you the last words what do you want the

people listening to know uh man there's so many things we don't have much right much time

on here but basically uh my focus right now is healing you know when we come up from environments

like 10th and ring 10th and burly you know uh I grew up shout out to my my parents but I grew up

in the in the crack pandemic so my parents uh fell victim to that they was using certain drugs

so I don't feel like I was uh raised properly you know I started selling drugs when I was 11

so of course I wasn't raised with the right parental guidance and I grew up damaged mentally

and emotionally so I'm I'm healing shout out to uh a yana spiritual healing because uh she

been providing me with tools and resources that I could use to heal myself mentally and I would say

that that would be my closing message like let's let's heal you know it's it's a lot of violence

and conflict and dysfunction going on in our families and communities and we all need to heal you

know uh and and I'm going through a healing process like I'm not judging nobody uh I need to be

healed and and I think we all do so you know uh shout out to uh a yana spiritual healing again I

think a lot of people should looking to that and and reach out to her because you know she

been through some things her daughter was a kidnapped while she was a young lady and I don't know

how she still so mentally strong right now but she's an example of a of a strong black woman I

call her uh the goddess because you know the the wisdom and the things that she know her her healing

methods uh she really like like a goddess so uh I think people should you know just have a

reality check with themselves and just realize that they need to be healed like we all need to be

healed and uh it's a new year so I think the healing process should start now and what is your

advice to the youth that's out here in that crash out era for those that are listening we got a

lot of youth that listen to the show what do you want to say to the youth that's listening right now

I just want them to take they they time bro because I started going to jail at the early age like

I said I started selling drugs at 11 by 12 I caught my first case and uh in a in a sense I kind

of messed my life up I became a felon before I was a dog and they say a a felony can't affect you

when you catch it as a juvenile it won't it won't come into your adult uh years but that's a lie

when when I caught a uh a gun case as an adult they charged me with felon with a firearm based on

my juvenile record so it's like the streets is not even worth it no more you know I mean like

there's too many rats out here you know even people who ain't rats they become rats because they

can't handle the pressure of of going to jail some people can't do a day in jail you know I mean like

you don't want to go through that I've been through it I don't want to see no other young black man

go through that so I would say be patient and and just find other things to do than to get involved

in the streets and I know it's so easy because you know in our culture in our environment it's not

really no love it's not a lot of uh real community activities to keep them busy and productive

but just uh you know it's so many other things that we can do in the world other than get involved

in the streets and sell drugs and and and ride people so yeah just and and if you don't have no

guidance if you know how to read read my books look up Ronnie Ball Amazon or Barnes and Noble

it's it's a lot of knowledge and wisdom actually being from Milwaukee you can relate to it

yeah for sure that's powerful hey look we appreciate you for coming in and like I said keep me up

to date on what you're doing because I want to make sure we keep continuing how these real conversations

as we go through 2026 a lot of these young kids like you said and that we know that you know they

not abide by no rules they moving on their own frequency and uh we have to make sure that we

insert ourselves as the new elders in the community and try to at least get them in the space

where we can have the healing to take place we got to heal the village in 2026 for sure thanks for

having me bro hey no problem hey look when we come back truth nation we'll have more conversations

thank you Ronnie Beau for stopping through Milwaukee native Tinton Burla author analysts I appreciate

much love and respect