The Names we Give

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Let us know your thoughts on these topics.

We want to talk to our cousins.

We had a real good conversation.

We started with Chet.

And he let us down a conversation talking about, you know,

Cosplaying, you know, fake accents.

You know, am I being disrespectful or am I being rude for talking like this?

Am I making a mockery of, you know, Americans?

And, you know, it led us down to a conversation of me explaining how I even got to, you know, speaking in these tones.

Because this isn't my natural tone.

This isn't how I naturally speak.

All right?

If you've listened to the show before, you probably heard me call my mom once and, you know, my accent came on.

I talk like this.

I was born in Arizona, St.

Thomas, the United States, Virgin Islands.

Yes.

The Virgin Islands was colonized by the U.S., not originally.

Was colonized by the Dutch first Denmark, you know them type of people them type of ice and then there was another portion of the Virgin Islands called the British Virgin Islands, and yes, that's right That set of islands was colonized by the Brits So you have the British Virgin Islands those British Caribbean blacks have British passports me I was on the United States Virgin Islands, so I have a United States

passport.

But through my journey, it led me to Milwaukee.

And through my experiences in Milwaukee, it led me to talking like this because I felt like as a 14, 15 year old boy at the time when I

spoke how I naturally spoke, it made me stick out like a sore thumb and I was an easy target for whether that was bullying, altercations, people to think that, oh, okay, this is the one that we could mess around with.

All right?

This week we've been having all types of different conversations.

All right?

And it's a bittersweet day for me today, actually.

I was having a lot of fun filling in.

But after today, you know, this will be my last day on the extended lunch break.

Because Vivian King will be starting on Monday, a new show, Viv's View.

I'm looking forward to seeing the views that she brings to the community, to the station, to the family.

Looking forward to joining the conversations.

Make sure you all are tuned in on Monday for Viv's view.

But this will be kind of like my last chair for the extended lunch.

My last meal with y'all from two to four.

Unless somebody need to you know, somebody pick up shit for something.

I'll be back But yes This is my last ride in a two o'clock chair Vivian King is going to be taking it over from here And I couldn't be happier to hand it over to family

So today we're going out with a statement All right all week we've been talking about words All week On the lunch break on the extended lunch, you know Monday we asked what Da Vinci wasn't accounting for when he said black people needs to get past slavery

All right today we finish the thought With the words themselves, okay A historian named Pamela Walker wrote it plain What is the name What is the name Centuries

of Atlantic world history inherited oppression and sometimes a reclaimed selfhood.

Every name black Americans have ever carried was either handed to us by somebody else or taken back by us.

Following me?

So today,

Today on our final lunch our final extended lunch The story of the taking back From African to colored to Negro to black to African-American Each one on a battlefield each one a choice about who gets to say who we are

Okay So for the next two hours We're gonna talk about this And we got this breaking now into About seven different segments seven different chapters Okay And we're gonna start with the first name we got the first name we give ourselves

We ended the lunch break by asking a question I wanted to ask because everything was It was interesting I wanted to know what does black mean to you when you hear black What pops in your mind?

What does it mean being black and I'm not asking anybody to give me the perfect answer or the right answer because

I don't have a perfect answer.

I don't have the right answer.

I think everybody may have a different answer.

So I am interested in seeing what does black mean?

To you.

To your family.

What does it mean?

Who gets to be black?

Who's included?

in that black conversation and who's not included, not included like you don't get to talk about black stuff.

That's not what I'm saying.

I am literally just asking who do we consider?

What do we consider being black, right?

But we're gonna break this down into chapters.

Chapter one, we're gonna talk about the first name we gave ourselves, which was African.

And thank you to the wife for this topic.

This is a good one to close out with.

And chapter two, we want to talk about colored.

We want to talk about the word colored.

And this is all stuff I researched, OK?

Google some stuff, and we compiled some information and sharing it with you.

But we wanted to dissect the information.

I got to sit up properly, but I look like Patrick from SpongeBob.

Up until you straighten up yourself by.

Then we want to talk about color.

And they said it was a pride name, so I want to get into this question with y'all.

Because I got a weird experience with the word colored.

When I was working at Time Warner came.

Then we're going to talk about Negro.

The cast word we made noble.

I don't know how we made it know, but we gonna see.

Then Black say it was the youth revolt.

What up, Charles?

Then African-American, the heritage name.

And who doesn't leave out?

Then...

The words they used on us.

All right.

The words they used on us.

Some of them we still use on ourselves today.

We're going to talk about it.

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That is the number to dial.

We want to talk about it.

What is black to you?

What does that mean?

What does that look like?

Who is black?

Who gets to be black?

Who gets to talk about not necessarily talk about who are we conclude?

Who are we included in that because we say?

Black is a social construct.

But it seems as if it's a social construct that correct me if I'm wrong.

But it seems like it's a construct that the black community has adopted.

So I would like to know what does it mean for us and then chapter seven we are going to Get into this when people say get past it And how that is it's like the language of dismissal okay, so when we come back y'all we gonna get into this thing who is black What does it mean to you a 3 3 2 1 2 10 17 that is a number to dial don't go anywhere

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It's your boy Ray Nitty.

Prince of the city man.

This is my last chair on the extended lunch break.

Making way for Vivian King.

For Vivian King I was educated on so much.

Can't wait to see can't wait to hear can't wait to experience Viv's view starting on Monday y'all Starting on Monday from two to four It's gonna be powerful just out of the Tory law.

I just seen Tory Lowe Out in the hallway man much respected Tory Tory like I I just told I was like man.

I wish like I could

have some of that energy that a Tory Lowe or Von May's like, you know, and Lanisha Martin, I wish I could like conjure up some of the energy man and just instill it in myself because 24 seven ain't going hard for black people.

For black people.

And I bring that up because I want us to have a conversation about what is black.

What does it mean to you?

Who gets to be black?

How do we protect black?

And the folks that are part of that black experience, how do we help usher our black people to prosperity?

Because I wish.

I could get a man to the call in and give me her explanation of what she said.

I should have recorded it so I could play it.

What she said was her explanation of black.

And I thought I thought it was like.

A perfect.

Explanation.

Because at the end of it, the question was.

You know.

Well, how do we try to get black people on the same page?

And are we at a point where we're like, well, we tried.

We tried and, you know, a sector of the community is just not going to get on board.

So does that mean.

We just.

Stop trying.

What is black, y'all?

What does that mean to you?

What is it?

Is it just the color is it just?

You know People in this country Melanated people in this country.

What is it to you?

I don't have I'm not saying I'm looking for a perfect answer.

I'm just looking for what your answer is All right

So the first name we gave ourselves, we said we was gonna talk about all of these things.

So it goes back to the early republic.

I did a little research.

I got a, I used to cite my sources.

I got to start doing that again so we could tell folks where we cited our, got our sources from.

But the first name we gave ourselves.

using we very lightly.

I'm not labeling anybody here.

Okay.

This is just just for the conversation that we have.

African.

African.

Go back.

to the early Republic, the 1790s, 1800s.

Free black people in Philadelphia and New York are building institutions and they reach a name.

This is interesting.

African.

The African Methodists.

Episcopal Church founded by Richard Allen, a black freed man in Philadelphia.

The African Free School in New York.

The African Free School in New York.

Think about what that choice meant.

All right.

These were people born in America.

I am learning so much.

These are people born in America, many generations from the continent.

I'm learning so much.

many generations from the continent and they choose Africa.

Not a color, not a condition, a homeland, a memory, a claim.

We come from somewhere and that somewhere has a name.

I did not, I didn't know.

So please, if anybody has any other information, call in.

Like I always say this, I am not above being corrected or educated on something that I may be missing form of.

That's what this is for.

I am no better than anybody just because I have a mic and I researched some stuff and share it with you.

We are family.

We share with each other.

Ain't no they nothing wrong with somebody is like a cut cuz right you you was wrong on that one boss Here's the proper information So if you hear anything please Chime in a 3 3 2 1 2 10 17 is the number to dial All right, so once again

These were people born in America.

Free black people in Philadelphia and New York.

That was many generations.

This is so interesting.

It gave such another layer to the conversation of Africans.

and Americans.

This is good.

They chose African.

They chose, they didn't choose a color.

They didn't say black.

You know what I'm saying?

They didn't tell you that.

They said African.

They chose a homeland, a memory, a claim.

And they said we come from somewhere.

And that somewhere has a name.

That was the first act.

Of self naming.

Before it, the names came from ledgers and bills of sales.

After it.

The pen was in our hand.

And we never fully gave it back.

Okay.

We never fully gave it back, y'all.

How many of us knew?

I didn't.

I'm not ashamed to mention it.

How many of us knew that the word African came from America?

I didn't know that.

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That is a number to dial.

Today's question, y'all, is what does black mean to you?

We have separated ourselves so much.

So I ask this question, what are we?

What do we identify as?

We have separated ourselves so much.

We are so divided and I'm not getting into the diaspora war of it all.

I'm just simply talking about the division, the dilution, the breakdown, the silos within our own selves.

Me no black, Papi.

Me no black.

I'm African.

I'm not American.

I'm African.

Well, you ain't American, you African.

You're not American.

You're not black.

You a immigrant.

So I'm just asking this question.

What does black mean to you?

833-212-1017.

Call up.

There's no wrong answer.

There's no wrong answer.

I want to hear from you.

Because we subscribe to all these labels all these divisions everything we subscribe to all these things So it made me wonder like where does it come from and why do we subscribe to it and do we?

Not help the people that look like us simply because We're not under the same label or even the ones that we

Consider under the same label.

Do we stop trying because they don't have the same level of understanding?

Or some would say.

Competency.

Do we do we forget about the folks who need a little bit more help just because we've tried for so long and I feel like we shouldn't.

Will we come back?

We're gonna get into some more of the names, y'all, right here on the award-winning 1017, The Truth.

Feel good, man To the award winning one-on-one seven the truth you are listening to Milwaukee black talk live from the American family insurance studio Hey Snap with me y'all Chats out there everybody in the chat man.

We talking about

Talking about who we are as a people where we came from all the names that we Subscribe to all the different labels that we subscribe to all the different ways that we separate each other From each other people that look like us People that look like us we separate them whether it be by all you know you

You Caribbean, you ain't black, you immigrant, you ain't black, you African, you ain't black, or you Dominican, or the Africans separating themselves from the blacks, or immigrants separating themselves from the black.

Why do we do this?

Why do we do this?

We talking about the names.

833-212-1017 is the number to dial.

I want to hear from you.

What is black to you?

What does that mean?

What does it mean?

When you hear somebody ask you, are you black?

What does that mean to you?

Okay.

We just talked about.

The name we gave ourselves and it was African.

I I. I'm just learning.

I'm just learning this.

Did anybody know.

That free black people in Philadelphia and New York.

In the 1780s, 90s and early 1800s, while they were building institutions from nothing, they reached a name for us and then it was African, right here in America.

That in itself puts me in such a mental conundrum.

Because...

I'm interested in like, okay.

Did was Africans just going by their tribes?

The tribal names is first.

How did that separation come into play where it's like, oh, we're Africans now and you all are the Americans.

How did that come into play?

Hopefully we get to it.

We're going to move on to chapter two.

Colored.

And they said it was the pride name.

As I stated, call me up, please.

If you hear something that seems off.

That you have facts to educate me on and then.

You know, correct me.

I'm never above being corrected and educated, please.

So chapter two, y'all.

After emancipation.

The word is colored the dominant term through the late 1800s And here's what the history books got wrong about it They say in black people chose it I Didn't know this is freedmen adopted adopted a chose

Words have power.

Freedmen adopted colored as a marker of race, pride, deliberately in freedom.

They say it runs through our organizations like a spine in 1896, the National Association of Colored Women's Clubs, founded by Mary Church Terrell and Josephine St.

Pierre Ruffin.

carrying the motto, lifting as we climb.

Black women organized it for the race when nobody was organizing for them, 1909.

The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.

Born out of the ashes in the 1908 Springfield Race Riot.

founded by W. E. B. Du Bois, Ida B. Wells, Mary White, Ovington, and others.

What is black to you?

What does it mean to you when you hear it?

The most storied civil rights organization in American history,

has colored in its name.

And they put it there themselves on purpose with pride.

I told you I have an interesting experience with the colored word.

I'm going to tell you all about it.

When I was at work one day at a time when it came.

So by the 1940s, the word was fading.

No new organizations took it up.

Walker notes.

The reason black activists wanted specific specificity shoes on told me up in it.

They wanted to be specific.

Colored was vague.

In an increasingly diverse country and Negro.

Named an African ancestry.

directly.

We done been all types of names.

The word has served its generation and the next generation laid it down.

Words don't have fixed meanings.

They have histories.

Colored was dignity in 1909.

It's a relic today.

The word didn't change.

We changed and we took the words power with us when we left.

This is interesting.

It sounds very similar to another word.

We'll get there.

That we took ownership of it.

What do we say?

We took the power away from the word.

Is there a word I want to know?

Your grandparents used with pride that your generation retired What changed?

Was it the word or was it us?

Hmm what changed?

Was it the word or was it us is their word a 3 3 2 1 2 10 17 That's the number to dial that your grandparents used with pride that your generation retired

What changed?

Was it the word or was it us?

Let's go to the chat.

Brother Loraz said.

Black is a classification.

Given to me based on skin color that is void of proper ethnicity, it gives me an origin nor defines me.

It lets others in the classification define.

It based on their insecurities.

I say insecurities because.

It is those telling others that they are not black enough that have the insecurities on what a definition of blackness should be.

So.

We going through the history of our words.

Who are we?

What does black mean?

What is being black mean?

Who do we include in that?

Who do we leave out of that?

I was asked a question this morning.

It was a video.

People that clearly look like, in my opinion, black people.

It was like, oh, you know, I don't know if I consider them black people.

Consider them Arabic.

I was like, well, damn, that threw my mind out the loop.

These were Somalians we was talking about.

Like, you look Arabic.

So that I just.

I felt like my mind was blown at that point because I thought Arabic looked like a certain thing myself.

So these constructs and labels that we.

Put on folks or had put on us that we now subscribe to.

How did they get there?

How did we?

Start looking like one thing and starting to lighten up like what is going on?

And I pose a question is a few years from now not a few years Let's just say I'm not gonna be here.

Okay, but if we talking about a thousand years from now or something all the

interracial dating and, you know, the mixing of cultures and, and, and, you know, will black still be a thing?

Or over time, will it just be diluted because they say, you know, the race is getting more and more diluted.

Let's go talk to cousin Blake.

Blake, how are you feeling?

What's happening, man?

Off words, G.

Oh man, man, get them coins, man.

I got one more

hour after this.

Yeah, the best job is when I go home with the wife and the daughters.

That's the best job.

That's no

paying for that.

Amen.

Work and not being fulfilled.

I want to know that you guys are talking about race.

My grandmother was born in Arkansas and her daddy.

raped her mother at the time.

My great grandmother was 14 at the time and the pure white Irish man from Ireland raped my grandmama and she had to be sent away to the house mother named Tony and she raised her.

She was darkest cold.

She left my grandmama like nine acres of oxygen bluffing and everything.

But my grandmama's Mr. Irish and church ended.

And then my mom, her side, they come from like, I traced my stuff all the way to the door and the door, no return.

And her people are like Cheyenne and African.

And we just had our anniversary.

Well, big, big, big mama, they're great.

Our great grandmother and grandfather, their parents were descendants of, they were slaves.

They came here just fresh out slavery.

My mom and them got here in 54 off until they moved on 26th Street and then everybody lived there until they moved out and everybody separated.

It was 14 girls, two boys.

So my ethnicity runs black, Indian, Irish.

And what you see when you see me, you know what you gotta do is Google, I found Blake.

I'm a brother all day.

You cut me out, bleed.

It's gonna, it all tells how deep and where I went, where I'm gonna bleed out.

We are the same.

So I'm sick of hearing about Afro-American and who is black and who is this?

And I was told everything comes from black.

And I've seen it.

You need to read a book called The Pale Man.

It's about 12 different shades of Indian and Indian Arabic and all of those people that come from us.

They say white people do dwelled in chains and came to snatch our women and breed it.

So don't get me started.

I've been to the million man mark.

My dad is a black pepper.

Go to the disciple.

them in Chicago and learn and everybody will see.

Everybody is one.

Everybody is me.

Everybody's the same.

Have a good day.

Appreciate you, cousin Blake.

When we come back, we'll continue this conversation right here, y'all.

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Hey.

It's throwback Thursday, man.

So throwback word your grandparents used to say.

Tell me about it.

I want to hear about it.

Tell me about it.

A 3 3 2 1 2 10 17 is the number to die.

We just talked to cousin Blake.

I was talking about ourselves black.

We went through.

The names we gave ourselves African.

Free black people in Philadelphia and New York.

Gave gave the continent a name.

Gave us a name and called it African.

Then colored pride name.

We.

Put it in the name of our organizations pridefully.

Then next generation set it down.

In the Negro.

We're here at the Negro.

Cast word we made noble.

I was supposed to tell you all about my colored experience before we before we get into that.

So I was working at Time Warner Cable.

So when I had to be in my 20s at the time.

And it's on a regular service call.

You know.

Checking maybe we had to be a modem or something.

Just checking some broadband signal, some RF signal.

And I'm using my meter behind this person's TV.

I'm checking the RF signal for the for the signal that's going into the box, the modem for their Internet.

And this guy, white guy, you know.

You like standing over me.

It's like watching me so close.

I'm like, all right, it's fine.

I get it.

Sometimes people stand over and watch the folks that is coming in and do work and make sure that they aren't, you know, messing anything up or just nosy.

I've done it.

I've done it.

This is like, yeah, man, you start talking to him like, you know what to do.

Like, oh, yeah, man, I had tried to unscrew that, but I was having trouble.

Couldn't get the wrench back there to rinse it off.

Yeah, you know.

Eventually, when it was time to go, it was done.

I was not there long.

I was not there long.

I got the signal.

I determined that, oh, this guy is going to need a new drop.

So I'm going outside now to, you know, check the drop outside of the house coming from the cable wire from the main pole.

And the guy is following me.

Outside to the door now at this point.

I wear the front door and he he says to me Try to remember how exactly it came out But it was random and just like Just how to know where I didn't even know how to take it He's like, yeah, I don't have any problem with colored in my house like whoa Where did that even come from?

I just left.

Never went back in.

Never finished a job.

I was like, yeah, you know, this person referred to me as colored.

I don't feel safe.

I don't feel safe.

But here it is.

Find out.

We turned it into something with pride.

You know, United Negro College Fund.

We tried to go walk for them.

Yeah rain that But Negro This is a sick Negro Cast word we made noble Negro comes from the romance languages

Spanish, Portuguese, Latin.

It literally means black, dark.

But it entered the world as a tool of empire, the Spanish colonial caste system.

In 18th century Mexico, painters produced castor paintings, 16 ranked categories of human beings.

European to African.

To every mixture in between each with its place on the chart Your blood graded like a number graded like lumbar I said like a number Super fun fan said he would have had a problem that day Yeah, this is internet was out.

I just left it out

Obviously, you need a different Negro to come and fix your damn internet because this one ain't doing it.

Hmm.

I think about it was not.

I was fired shortly after that.

I don't think it was that was because of that.

Your blood was graded like lumber.

The word Negro was born inside that machinery.

And then Black America did something extraordinary with it.

We made it noble.

We love doing that, don't we?

We take it back, don't we?

We'll take a word, make it our own.

Ask to axe.

Can I axe you some?

Do not chop me.

Okay?

Robert said, you better than us, Ray.

Well, it gave him a reason to have issues with colors in his house.

Yeah.

I mean, he just randomly said he's like, yeah, I didn't see.

I didn't have.

I don't have problems with color with the color that being in my house.

And I was just taking back because it was like, where?

Who did you have this conversation with?

How did we start here?

Like, damn.

That was I felt like that was his way of saying, get.

I was just a weird place to start.

It's just weird.

But we're talking about Negro now, past colored.

Did he say a colored Negro?

I think he might have doubled up on me.

Said, I had no problem having a colored Negro in my house.

Like, damn!

Then Black America did something extraordinary with it.

We made it noble.

1903, W.E.

Du Bois publishes The Souls of Black Folk.

You a cold man, brother Z. The Souls of Black Folk.

1905, the Niagara Movement.

Du Bois Book of T. Washington, Giants Who Carried Negro.

into the national vocabulary as a word of seriousness and scholarship.

1926 Langston Hughes, 24 years old.

24-year-old Langston Hughes publishes The Negro Artist and the Racial Mountain.

The nation and drops the line, why should I want to be white?

I am a Negro and beautiful when we come back.

We'll continue this ca-

What up y'all welcome back welcome back to the award-winning One-on-one seven the truth you are listening to Milwaukee black talk.

I am your boy Ray nitty Prince of the City, man DJ brother Z holding us down with the production and sound on this throwback Thursday This is my last hour with y'all man, I'm gonna miss y'all I'm gonna miss y'all

I'm gonna miss y'all.

This was an amazing experience.

I was able to grow in radio profession.

I was able to, you know, get better, do a little bit more research, dig a little deeper, share a little bit more about history and myself.

I feel like these extended lunch breaks, it brought us a little bit closer.

But starting Monday on Vif, I'm sorry, Vivian King.

Will be starting Vif's view.

So make sure you all tune in.

From two to four every Monday through Friday to see what Vif's view is for the day.

So my last hour here with y'all, I really want to.

Bring everything together that we've been talking about since day one from.

Everything.

We're talking about black.

What does it mean for us?

What does it mean?

What what do you hear when somebody asks you what does black mean to you?

833-212-1017.

That's the number to dial.

I understand it's a difficult question, right?

How do you answer that?

I would love to sit down with a black historian.

That could really do a deep dive and educate me and our listeners a little bit better.

On what what does it really mean?

Somebody who really understood.

The journey of black people.

We're talking about the words, the names.

Went from African.

And we went from African, then we went to colored.

And from colored, we went to Negro, which we are right now.

That sounded crazy.

Where we are right now.

And we talked about in 1926 Langston Hughes, 24 years old.

He published a book called The Negro Artist.

and the racial mountain, then the nation, and then the nation and drops the line, why should I want to be white?

I am a Negro and beautiful.

By 1950, Negro was the dignified standard.

The National Council of Negro Women, 1935.

And there was a war fought inside the word.

The capital N. Black newspapers, the Chicago Defender, and others campaigned for years to capitalize Negro.

Because a capital letter was dignity on the page.

This is interesting to say.

Make that in a capital in Negro.

Personhood and typography.

The New York Times refused until 1930.

That's actually kind of crazy.

They just want to be difficult with cats.

They're like, we're not giving you a large and you continue to be a small neat grow.

They don't even want you to have capital N.

The New York Times refused until 1930.

So let's think about that.

Let's think about this.

I want you all to really think about this.

This is how much oppression.

Black people, colors, Negroes, Africans, whatever the hell you want to call us at this point, right?

We've been through so many different names and transitions.

I even wonder what black be around in a hundred years or 10,000 years or a thousand years, or will we be just identified as something else by then?

Will we put the name black down as well?

But I want y'all to think about this.

The New York Times refused.

until 1930.

Think about it.

The paper of record wouldn't grant the black people a capital letter.

A capital N until 1930.

That's how much oppression.

We've been under.

We couldn't even have a capital N. To call ourselves Negro publish ourselves as capital Negro.

But the tension never left.

The tension never left, y'all.

It never left.

The word was born in a caste system.

And it's derivative that, ooh, they trying to tear me up.

Was born in the 1800s and still burns today.

I'm not even gonna try that word Send that one to my wife.

See what she think about that word later Negro carried both the pride and the wound in a single word All right, that's why the young people of the 60s would eventually put it down

So I got another question.

Go set this one on the table.

The capital N fight.

Were y'all even aware of it?

I didn't know that we fought for a capital N. Did you know?

But my question was that small or was it everything?

What does it mean to demand dignity and grammar?

What does it mean to demand dignity and grammar?

We fought for a capital N For the word Negro to be published for the younger generation to yet again Put down another word Color retired Negro

Retired.

And all it seems like it was a reoccurring pattern.

It was always about taking the power away from it.

And then it's interesting because.

You know, we use these things.

We've constantly been in this place.

It seems like I'm noticing a pattern here.

Excuse me for pointing it out.

Because.

And this is why history is important.

This is why black history is important.

And this is why I love.

This platform because it forces me to research certain things and through research and I learned so much more.

I learned so much more.

I am challenged so much more, whether it's by the audience or by other colleagues.

And I know it's only because people want everyone to be well and better informed.

But I'm noticing a pattern here.

I'm noticing this pattern, y'all.

We have these words that.

From what I remember causes pain and used to belittle us and degrade us.

I. And that maybe it's not for my error.

Happy birthday.

Maybe it's not for my error.

But.

I noticed this pattern.

I noticed the pattern of we have these words that cause us.

Trauma pain labels us Negro colored That's the two we dealing with right now and then we take the power back we say we take the name We want to put a capital in on it educate me, please Are we taking these names that was you know or or did

We take ownership of it because they were using it.

And this is literally me asking the question.

I'm trying to understand that we take ownership of it because we were tired of being belittled by it.

So the same thing we do with the N word today, as we say, oh, no, you know, they used it to do this to us, but now we've turned it into a term of endearment.

Is this a pattern?

Is this a pattern?

Chapter four, y'all.

We're going to get into the black youth revolt.

Because the 1960s, young people look at Negro, the inherited word, the slavery word, the word their parents bled.

to capitalize and say, not ours, not anymore.

So when we come back, I want to take y'all way back.

Way back to 1962 in Harlem.

All right.

I'm going to tell y'all about a photographer named Kwame.

Hmm.

When we come back, y'all.

Don't go anywhere right here on the award-winning 1017.

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That's a smooth beat.

What up y'all welcome back to the award-winning one-on-one seven the truth live from the American family insurance studios This is Milwaukee black talk and I am your boy Ray nitty holding it down a few more minutes man until Monday Vivian King will be Assuming the chair and sharing her view make sure y'all tune in Monday for

Viv's view with Vivian King.

We talking about some things today, y'all.

We talking about some things.

This is the final chair for me.

It's been a very interesting ride.

I'm learning so much, like I said.

I'm being challenged.

I'm being pushed.

I am not being allowed to just, you know,

Put the first Show out there and then and then no not going to the team isn't having it We having coachings with Ben Ben has been coaching this up.

I preach I talked to everybody I asked for advice I see Tori low in the hallway asking for some advice I see Kyle in the hallway.

I talked to him asking for some advice.

They all share they all super helpful I Look at what Sherwin is doing

I learned so much.

And I'm learning Sherwin is a stickler for people knowing what they're talking about.

Not just saying things that I don't think.

You know, Sherwin says anything to be rude.

I think it is important because the information we put out.

into the world, people take that and run with that as gold.

So it's important.

To know, even if I'm joking.

Or even if I'm just rambling about a, you know, high school rivalry.

We still need to have fun, but be factual.

Know what we talking about.

So I got corrected.

I got corrected about saying, you know, Rufus King yesterday.

Because I said, you know, I was asked, did I, you know, did I know he was a real person?

I was like, yeah, I knew he was a real person.

And then, you know, they said, oh, you know, he was anti slaves.

And then I said something that was along the lines of like, he was so anti slavery and he left the 13th amendment in there or added it.

But he was dead.

He had passed away.

Jazz!

So it made me go research more.

It made me go dig deeper.

So thank you.

It made me go find out who General Rufus King really was.

And I'm not gonna tell you who he was again because you can go listen to Hour 2.

of the lunch break show yesterday, and it taught me so much more, but I will say it made me pose the question.

How could the anti-slavery for founder, founding father, sign a constitution that had three chains in it that kept us shackled?

How?

And in that same constitution, you had three men that refused to sign it.

So go do a deep dive.

Go do a listen on my Rufus King segments yesterday.

It was hour three.

We started at like hour three on the lunch break yesterday.

But today we talking about black.

What does it mean?

What does it mean to you?

What does it look like?

Who's a part of that?

Who's included in that term or construct?

We're talking about 1962 and we're talking about the Black Youth Revolt.

Harlem photographer Kwame Brathwaite and the Grandesa models staged the naturally fashion shows.

Dark skinned, black women, natural hair, African inspired dress on a runway.

Black is beautiful.

stops being a slogan and becomes something you can see.

1966, Greenwood, Mississippi, Stokely Carmichael.

Later, Kwame Toure steps to a microphone during the march against fear and gives the country two words.

Black pie.

Black pie.

Black power.

The old guard flinches the young stand taller.

Black Power.

1966 in Oakland, Huey Newton and Bobby Seale found the Black Panther Party.

Leather berets, guns, free breakfast, a whole aesthetic of

unapologetic blackness.

Black had been used for centuries as the negative, the opposite of white, the opposite of good, the opposite of pure.

What color is devil's food cake?

Chocolate ain't that some it was an angel food cake white The killer whale what color is the killer whale black What do they name the white shark the great white shark a Black cat don't cross that path with that black cat you gonna get bad bad luck everything black

It was cursed wickedness sorcery What's the name had a real good conversation he did with that it was Muhammad Ali It was Muhammad Ali Maybe I could find that and we close I would

What Muhammad Ali says, I'm going to try to search that.

Black has been used for censories, as we said, as a negative.

The young sees the insult and turned it inside out.

Walker puts it sharp for people who had experienced white supremacy through lynching.

and pogroms and every kind of violence, black, as the anatomy of white was a good thing.

And the elders were furious.

Same intergenerational war we see today.

The old guard calling the young reckless and disrespectful, the young calling the old guard timid and compromised.

Ops, fits, plants.

Some of them are.

I'm sorry.

Some of the elders are compromised, but some of the young is too.

And I just think it was easier to compromise some of our elders because they were tired.

It was there in 1966, too.

Strategy, pace, respectability, the words and the tactics.

Every generation fights the last one over all of it.

You see where we going with this?

I got this.

I promise y'all I'm going to lose a little weight.

I keep looking like SpongeBob, not SpongeBob Patrick sitting in the chair.

Got to sit back.

And when we go to break, throw the pull up rich boy, throw some D's on that.

This was look like I got sitting on me right now.

Turn the camera.

Every generation fights the last one over it all.

Every generation fights the last one over it all.

By the 70s.

Black was everywhere.

Black studies programs, black cultural centers, black associations on every campus.

The youth had won the language, but they usually do.

Eventually.

So I got a question.

Every generation thinks the next generation, the next one is doing it wrong.

The words to hear the tactics where the elders wrong in 66.

Are the elders wrong now?

If we got time, go talk to Al right now.

We take it after the break.

We're going to talk to Al after this break, y'all.

Don't go anywhere.

We'll be right back on the award-winning 10170 Truth.

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I don't want to have to convince you to see what I see.

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Beat.

award-winning.

That looks insane.

Hey, can you dump like video footage?

It was on camera.

It's already

on Facebook.

It's already clipped.

It's screen recorded.

It's raps.

Nah, don't do that, bro.

I do not consent to the.

There's two late ones on that meeting.

Anything

that is on this air is free game.

I didn't sign no rights and likeliness.

I get on here and start talking about what I really will talk about if

you

show me shaking.

Oh, you said I can't say that.

These.

So the question, y'all.

It's my last half hour with y'all.

Every generation thinks the next generation got it wrong.

The words, the haircut.

The tactics.

Were the elders wrong in 66 or are the elders wrong now?

What would the future bring?

Let's go talk to cousin Al.

Al, how are you feeling?

Talk to me.

All right, I want to talk to you.

First of all, Dr. King was used to keep black people mentally stuck.

Your great grandmother and great grandfather knew how to get the racist white man and racist white woman.

to act right.

The youth of today really don't want to listen to the seniors because they feel the seniors are too old.

The seniors is the eyes when nobody is watching.

And this generation is the warriors of the future.

And white supremacy exploits that.

That's why every Black History Month, they never talk about none of the real thoroughbreds.

who use the same mentality because they don't want to give black people courage and for them to be courageous.

So they use Dr. King to dumb everybody down.

So when white supremacy get angry, they exploit that because the generation of today is the warriors of the future.

which was the warriors of your great-grandmother and your great-grandfather.

Because when they used to get ignorant, your great-grandmama and your great-grandfather said, try me, I dared you.

And when you look at white supremacy today, they only do it because they know black people been blacked out.

And remember, if this generation of young men and young women

will look at each other as a sister and brother.

That is a power they cannot match.

Because the people of today is too old, too out of shape.

They got a little, they got little cane patches and all they got is bullets.

But they don't have the young mind of the warriors we have today.

We just have to redirect them.

And that's what they exploit when it comes to black people.

Man, I.

I appreciate that, Al.

I got a question

for you before.

No, don't go nowhere.

Don't

go anywhere

yet.

OK.

I got another one for you.

Some of those leaders that you speak of, right?

I'm not going to leave Martin Luther King out of this.

Let's talk about the ones that you say use the same tactics, the warliest.

So like I'm Polly Jackson who used me cleaver's hot kettle water Lucy partial the revolutionary who was a woman that the government was afraid of Malcolm X People talk about that Turner by that Turner had a sign and he used the same energy and he was crucified by his own people Those are the people who should be getting praise Every single every single black history.

Yeah, y'all pray that they pray Hitler

and Hitler didn't even like you.

Well, there you go.

I appreciate it, Al.

I'll

be honest with

you.

The first one of the first two names you said I didn't even hear of.

So I'm going to look into it.

And this is what I mean, y'all.

About why I appreciate this platform, right?

Because because it now could come in and share a name that I've never heard of.

I got here in 1998, my Black American experience is limited.

So I thank Al for making me look deeper.

And now, because this is how it happens.

So now I want to do a deep dive into all the folks similar to Nat Turner's and so forth, the Malcolm X's.

I want to do a deep dive into him.

Appreciate everybody that has ever called this show.

We've been rocking out for at least, at least a month now.

Some of you all have gotten to hear my accent.

You know, some of you all have gotten to hear my thoughts, my views and so forth.

But the thing I enjoy the most is hearing from you all.

Hearing your thoughts, your views.

I love hearing people call in.

That.

May have never even met me before, but share some information with me.

Like cousin Rebecca.

My guy in the East cousin.

Why are you saying because.

that share similar experiences.

I share similar experiences as myself being Caribbean and American.

I appreciate the owls.

I appreciate the enlightenment.

I appreciate Blake.

I appreciate everybody that calls in.

I appreciate everybody in the chat.

We all need each other.

I don't care if you African or what you call yourself.

I don't care about it.

I'm not saying don't have pride in whatever you choose to identify yourself.

But if you look like me, even in the slightest, and even if you don't look like me, I'm here to be a service to humanity.

I am here to be.

What did they say?

Climb and lift one up.

I don't care if you subscribe to African.

I don't care if you subscribe to Negro black.

African American colored.

In my opinion, in how I look at people that look like us.

Sure, we come in different shades and sizes and in different hints.

But for me.

I look at us all as one.

Yes, we are very different.

We are very different.

We all have different experiences.

But deep down to me, I look at us.

all as one, all as the same.

I'm not saying I'm right for it, but for me, I look at us as all the same because that is our power.

Our strength is when we're together, when we are united and we could understand each other's differences without being disrespectful to each other, without

pulling one another down understanding that somebody that is mixed they are still part of our black experience whether we want to accept them or not whether we choose to say uh it only getting kind of half of the experience

I think it's far time that we stop with the separation.

Not saying don't be proud of your heritage or your ethnicity or your race.

You can have pride.

But there's nothing wrong with saying, let's have a union.

There's nothing wrong with saying, let's all get on the same page.

It's nothing wrong with saying, OK, I might got my stuff together, but that doesn't mean everybody does.

That doesn't mean we turn a blind eye on the folks that need a little bit extra help.

I was a hardheaded kid, too.

I had to get told things over and over and over again.

I got beat because I wouldn't listen.

But somebody kept trying with me.

Somebody kept saying, Rehenio, you need to listen.

So I'm going to keep trying with our community.

I don't care what section or silo of our community you subscribe to.

I'm going to say we are all the same and we are way better together.

Somebody says, have you been drinking, sir?

Not at all.

Not at all, Brother Sam.

I'm just saying for me.

I understand we are very, very different.

We just ran through a lot of the names.

We talked about where the word African came from.

We talked about.