The Shoe Is on the Other Foot Now!

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The Shoe Is on the Other Foot Now!

The Grapevine · Mon Sep 28, 2026

What up y'all, what it do, what it do, what it do?

It's time to kick it with the extended lunch break crew, man.

Your boy Ray Nitty, Prince of the City, brother Z, holding it down with the production and sound, man.

We here from two to four, y'all.

It's what we like to take our time and, you know, get serious a little bit.

Get into some history, get into a whole bunch of other things, man.

We like to take our time at two to four.

Let the food that we just have for lunch digest.

Aunt Viv will be filling this slot, y'all.

Aunt Viv will be filling this slot pretty, pretty soon with Viv's view.

Right here from two to four in the award-winning one on one, seven to truth live from the American.

Family Insurance Studios, y'all.

How y'all feeling?

How y'all feeling?

How y'all feeling?

We had an interesting lunch, man.

We had a very, very interesting lunch.

And excuse me.

We was talking about a few things.

We was talking about.

The conversation kind of ended up.

With us talking about.

You know us shrinking ourselves.

So others.

Could continue to be who they are or take up space or whatever is it.

And it started like a little joke.

Right.

Started with a little joke.

We was talking about, you know, the sidewalk.

You know, usually you see a group of.

White folks walking towards you and they don't move.

They don't let me not say all of them, but very, very seldom do you see where they feel like they need to adjust their bodies so we can get by.

Typically, it's usually us adjusting ourselves so they can get by and I'm just not making that adjustment no more in life.

Obviously, elderly out, you know.

Oh, go ahead, Nana.

Go ahead, Nana.

But if you just deliberately, casually, just like.

Not paying attention to your surroundings and I need to always be aware from my.

Travel path and yours because you so privileged you could just, you know, act like life is a stop for pedestrian sign, no matter where you are.

So we was talking about that.

We was talking about that.

And it started with me talking about the game that I play.

You know, the game that I play, well, I just start doing all of the things that we were once uncomfortable with or whatever.

Start doing it to others just so they feel it.

Let my windows up at the light all the way up.

Lock the doors like five times.

unlock it, lock it again.

You know.

Switch, switch wallet sides, put my wallet in my front pockets whenever some some of them are walking behind me.

Just talking about shrinking ourselves so they could continue to exist for a year, centuries.

We've always shrunk ourselves.

showed up smaller than we are.

You know, whether that's on a sidewalk or at work.

All right.

We've always not said something because we don't want to be, you know, the angry, combative, difficult black person in the business office or whatever or the black woman.

Whenever she speaks up.

In a corporate setting.

Oh, she's angry.

Why are you so aggressive?

Why are you so hostile?

We hear about that version a lot.

We hear about it a lot.

We hear about it way too often where we shrink ourselves so they could continue to exist.

All right.

And I want to get into.

I want to get into some things today.

Pull this up, y'all.

I want to get into some things today, right?

Want us to talk about are we prepared for the next five years?

What is the next five years look like are we prepared or are we just casually living?

You know day to day Are we just Punching in the work Getting off going home.

Do you have a five-year plan 833 212 1017 is a number to doubt.

Do you have a five-year plan or are you just?

Live in day to day.

OK.

We want to talk about which jobs are at risk.

All right.

What the future could look like and how to not get left behind.

That's what we want to talk about from two to four because there's a lot of things happening.

Shots out the jazz West in the building.

She said Trump just made an announcement naming a few degrees are no longer relevant.

Interesting enough.

Interesting enough as today's topic.

Could you share some of those degrees that he's saying?

I'll Google it myself as well.

But if you could help me out, that would be that would be interesting to know.

All right.

Are you prepared?

Are you prepared for the next five years?

Don't even know if I'm prepared for the next five years, but I know I've been planning All right So today I'm gonna open up with the direct question Direct question If the way you make a living changed

dramatically in the next five years, would you be ready?

If the way you make a living today, if it changed dramatically in the next five years, would you be ready?

And trust me, things are changing.

All right.

Jobs are going to look a lot different in the near future.

Things that used to be secure jobs aren't so secure anymore.

Not scared, not in denial.

Are you really ready?

I want you to sit with that question for these two hours.

Are you ready if something was to change with the way you earn revenue?

money, pay bills, will you be ready?

And it's not gonna be as easy as just finding another job.

Okay?

Are you educating yourself on the way that things are going right now in this country to the direction that technology is going?

Are you studying the way that things are going?

All right.

Some of the degrees.

Cosmetics, graphic design, massage, early childhood education and English language.

And it was a bunch of others.

Thank you, Jazz West for sharing that with us.

Those are some of the degrees.

It was a bunch more.

All right.

Today's show separates three things that usually get blurred together, okay?

What is measurably happening right now?

What powerful people are predicting will happen?

And what you can do about it, whichever prediction turns out to be right, okay?

And I get it.

I get it.

How can I?

How can I prepare for five years and I got this do know?

How can I do this and we got this do know?

Jobs are changing.

I got a few homies as graphic designers.

And the conversations, they tire, they stressed out because so many people are just turning to AI graphics.

So many people turn into AI graphics.

That's got to be scary.

If you a graphic designer, the days of waiting on a graphic designer to get your flyer done.

That is to a near end.

If not an end right now.

Are you scared of AI and where technology is taking us?

833-212-1017 is the number to dial.

833-212-1017 is the number to dial.

We gonna be getting into some things today, y'all.

All right?

We gonna be getting into some things today.

We gonna be talking about, are we prepared for the next five years?

Then I wanna talk about our community because we came from a people that was hunters and gatherers to now seemingly very dependent.

on government, on systems.

When we used to be hunters and gatherers, don't go anywhere, y'all.

When we come back, we'll get right into the conversation right here on the award-winning 10170

Truth.

What up y'all welcome back welcome back

to the award-winning 101 7 the truth It's the extended lunch break fruit rate nitty DJ brother Z holding it down with the production and sound man Right here on the award-winning 101 7 the truth live from the American family and sharing studios

We talking about being prepared AI is changing a lot of things y'all a lot of jobs are about to disappear And we aren't paying attention I Have my own set of feelings and belief around AI right And I have my own set of feelings and concerns about it as well

I understand and respect.

The vast majority of people's concern about AI.

The usage.

The dangers, the economical or the environmental impact, rather.

But I also understand that this thing is here.

And I am almost positive that it is not going anywhere for the near or foreseeable future.

It is not going anywhere.

More jobs will be impacted.

We just had a study that said it's going to end humanity by the end of this decade.

Do I believe it's going to kill us all in three years?

No.

I don't believe that.

Maybe not kill us physically, but it will definitely cripple us and weaken us as a society if we do not prepare, study,

Get in the right position or so far we don't get into some numbers about What's actually going on with the numbers then I have something else I want to get into because It's something it's something forming here It's something forming here while I feel like

We are becoming too dependent We be coming too dependent but before we get into it, let's go talk to AJ AJ, how you doing man?

You live on the award winning one on one seven to true

What it do what they do?

Yeah, man, I feel I feel like I Feel like how you feel man?

Like it's here already and we got to take the we got to take them gotta make the most of them because It's definitely gonna try to make the most of us

man

No, absolutely.

And I'm I'm prepared for these next five years.

I'm trying to get on this electrician vibe so that I could be working with a doctor.

They they can't do nothing without electricians.

Yeah, I need power.

They need power

and

power and healthy sources of power and clean energy.

That's

a lot of the things that

folks have been talking about.

Yeah.

But nah, man, I appreciate you calling in, AJ.

Call in anytime, man.

Definitely appreciate you calling in.

And yes, I do agree.

It's here.

I agree with AJ.

It's here.

It's here.

It's a lot of chatter right now around AI.

And a lot of people are fearful of it rightfully so.

But one thing I learned.

About change.

One thing I learned about change, especially drastic change.

People are usually not comfortable with drastic change, especially the way we are about to change.

how society goes about life as we know it.

And this might be some rabbit hole stuff.

It might be.

But I'm feeling like this technology has been here for decades.

We're just being introduced to it.

All right.

We just being introduced to because it's like they had to program the minds.

For what was to come?

It's like we had to program the minds as to what's to come.

We always talked about cars, flying, self driving cars.

You know, Marty McFly.

Call back when you get a second caller.

We'll get to you in one second 8 3 3 2 1 2 10 17 is a number to doubt the future that we once saw on the Jetsons is here y'all We are living in those times It was a gradual change that is speeding up now The future is here the Jetsons are here

We are the aliens.

We.

Are the ones using this technology.

OK, so we're going to talk about some numbers.

What's actually happening right now?

Let's go talk to Ron real quick.

Ron, how you doing?

Hey man, thanks

for taking my call.

We're two real quick incidents, not incidents, but two things I noticed, like this around 2020, so COVID was in full swing.

I was in Madison and I saw the little robots riding around the city delivering food.

I didn't see too many Uber drivers and all that and they had a little box, a little ice box.

I don't know if you've ever been to Madison.

They ride around the city and they deliver food and then I saw that that kind of blew my wing back a little bit because I was They know how to stop at the stop light and all that stuff, right?

And I'm thinking down this for me, but they're putting drivers out of job is doing Uber and all that stuff.

I'm just sort of that then I got a guy up in Atlanta He drove up to a Pepsi warehouse because he's a little soda neck.

They have nobody in the warehouse.

No humans at all all robots all computers and machines They're loading the trucks

picking the pallets, all that.

That will, that will be back.

So the guy that called earlier said that he wants to get into the electricity part of it.

Now I want everybody, if you want to be a dollar sale or a copper top, you raise your hand right now.

So we know that you're the one we got to watch out for because they're going to put that chip in your forehead and in your hand.

And that's in the book.

So we can't let this, you know, they already got AI that's talking to each other.

Without any human interaction, they're talking to each other, communicating.

Absolutely.

They're using the language that we would never decode.

So the thing has become acipient, and even the people who have their hands on it is afraid of this, getting beyond what we can control.

I'm not being a panic person or like that.

I just want us to keep in mind that if we let this thing get way out of control, it can control the water, it can control the air, it can control all that if we

don't keep our hands on it the way we should.

And I'm afraid we might be heading that way.

We're not a Tuesday person like that.

But I'm just, you know, you've got to try these senses up at all times.

Thanks for taking my

call.

Appreciate you calling in Cousin Ryan from the South Side.

Man, I agree with it.

I agree 100%.

What he's talking about was...

I want to say it was an anthropic agent which broke out of its sandbox and hacked into hugging face.

And the agents created their own chat board and was communicating.

Yes, they created a language.

The agents created a language that we cannot decode and was talking about things.

What they was talking about.

I don't think they shared that with us yet.

But this is happening.

This is happening.

But there's two things to this, right?

It's two sides to this coin.

Because I always look at who's talking about it.

Who is the main person is talking about?

And right now, what's interesting to me is the same people that are pushing.

The fear aspect.

of AI are the same people who is actually pushing AI.

So that tells me you're pushing AI, but now we're pushing this fear aspect, right?

Because what comes after fear?

When you create fear.

When you create fear, what comes next?

You have to then figure out control.

So.

I'm a billionaire or whatever and I have this amazing technology and it is going to change the world and potentially even cripple the world and I don't want the government getting into my business and so forth.

I will probably create a fear campaign saying, yes, we do need to slow down AI.

Yes, we do need regulation and you know what?

I'm willing to help.

I'm willing to be a part of that help.

And that's the thing I get nervous about.

Do we want the people who's pushing the AI also pushing what regulations look like for AI?

Because obviously, in my opinion, they would be pushing regulation that leans towards favorable.

laws and things like that in their favor.

But when we come back, y'all, we're gonna talk about the numbers, all right?

We're gonna talk about the numbers.

How many jobs have been lost?

How many is being created?

All of these things right here on the award-winning one-on-one, seven of truth.

When we come back, we talkin' to Al.

Don't go

anywhere.

what up y'all

welcome back welcome back to the award-winning one-on-one seven the truth live from the american family insurance studios shiboy ray nitty dj brother z holding us down with the production and sound

Man, let's go talk to Al, y'all.

833-212-1017 is the number to dial.

833-212-1017 is the number to dial.

Al, how you doing?

I'm

doing good, but I need all of you to understand something.

AI can never outdo the human brain.

It's a computer.

It can be unplugged.

Number two, AI created a language.

You had a language that the white man couldn't even understand and it was beat out your ancestors called to to UT and Number three, and I know you Republicans going like this Why would you let a white-ass immigrant who's not even from the United States?

This is what you are as an American.

Where's your white pride boy?

You feel me?

How are y'all gonna sit back?

and be worried about a goddamn immigrant that ain't even American.

Where's the bars at?

Why would you sit back and let an immigrant or as they say, a legal alien dictate what's gonna go on in the United States?

Why you not saying take your peck of worldwide ass back to Africa?

or wherever the hell he came from.

That's what I would like to know.

Why isn't everybody a dandelion at Pussy Willow Five?

When it comes to AI, if you hold your money, don't knock a move.

You grow your own food, everything stops.

Why y'all keep giving this immigrant, white immigrant who's not American?

Why y'all give them all this power?

Where's your power?

Have a great day.

Bye

bye.

Have a great day.

Bye bye.

We love Al up here, man.

I'll say a lot of the things that we want to say in a way more colorful way.

So I appreciate Al.

Al colors outside of the lines and narrates.

Amazing pictures.

All right.

Go get into some numbers, y'all.

Through July 2026, employers cited AI in about 112,700 announced job cuts.

Roughly 24% of all announced cuts this year for all of 2025, AI was cited about 54,800 cuts, around 5% of the total.

AI now has been the top stated reason for layoffs for five straight months.

The tech sector is the epicenter, accounting for roughly 31% of all announced cuts this year.

Finance is second most in July with about 18,600 cuts year to date.

Hiring also matters.

Challengers own analysis.

noted hiring is up about 25 percent over last year, adding while AI is shifting the labor market.

It is not dismantling it.

That's what they say.

Say it's not dismantling it right now.

So if it's cutting all these jobs.

What jobs is it creating?

And that's what I want to know.

But.

Let's talk about the honest limits on those numbers, right?

These companies and their announcements are not verified causes.

Of course they not.

Okay.

Glassdoor's chief economics cautioned against taking AI attributions at face value.

A Dutch bank analysis predicted AI redundancy

Washing would be a significant feature of 2026, meaning some companies blame AI for cuts driven by other factors like tariffs, costs or over hiring.

Challengers Andy Challenger put it.

This way, regardless of whether individual jobs are being replaced by AI, the money for those roles is meaning companies are shifting budgets towards AI spending, which costs jobs.

even where AI isn't literally doing the work.

So that's what they say.

They saying.

Because people are spending more money on AI is impacting how much they pay for certain jobs.

All right.

Where the pain is, the clearest.

The entry rung level, multiple analysis, including both sides of the big prediction debate.

In the next segment, agree that early career workers in highly exposed roles are the most vulnerable group right now.

Okay.

Reporting, citing Revealio Labs estimates entry level tech hiring at top firms fell roughly 30 to 50% in 2025 versus 23%.

I mean, versus 2023.

All right.

Something real is moving.

Something real is moving, especially at the bottom rung of the white collar ladder and in tech.

But AI is the top reason companies give.

Is not the same as AI is taking most jobs and pretending it is would be exactly the kind of overreach that we try to avoid on this show.

I'm getting somewhere with this, right?

Y'all know the, y'all know the saying, give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, but teach a man how to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

Y'all remember that saying?

I've been working on this book for a while.

It's called We Forgot How to Fish.

It's called We Forgot How to Fish.

I've been working on this for a long time, actually.

Probably been working on this for over 10 years.

And working on it really means I've been thinking about it.

Done some.

Some work on it.

But gathering thoughts, gathering research, gathering data.

But we forgot how to fish, right?

We forgot how to fish.

Hold that thought.

Because we don't get to why I say we forgot how to fish.

OK.

Let me get into why I say we forgot how to fish.

But let's get into which jobs are actually in jeopardy.

And this is fact check drawn from widely cited University of Pennsylvania, open AI exposure analysis, Goldman Sachs estimates, Quartz and Washington Post reporting.

OK, that's what we fact check.

So the framework that matters most right when we talking about which jobs are actually in jeopardy Researchers keep landing on the same idea AI exposure tracks the tasks in a job not the job title industry or degree roughly 80% of us workers have at least 10% of their tasks touched by AI and about 19% face exposure on half or more of their tasks

per the pen slash open AI analysis.

Goldman estimates about two thirds of jobs have some exposure with roughly a quarter of work potentially.

Potentially.

Automatable outright.

All right.

Jobs heavy on processing texts.

Analyzing structured data and producing routine writing output are most exposed.

Jobs need in physical manipulation, complex judgment or novel problem solving ranks the lowest.

So essentially things where you still need to.

Do some sort of physical work with it, right?

You have to push a button in order for these machines to kick on.

You might still have to do that.

If you have to lift something onto something, you might still need to do it.

Complex judgment.

That's one thing AI can't do.

Human judgment, discernment.

They may act like it, but you still need some sort of human touch to it.

Some sort of problem solving, not just.

because it was trained, right?

Because one thing these AI agents can never do is give human, at least for now, until people start putting the chips in them.

Because there are chips, people are getting chipped up with the AI cards on them and all of these things are happening.

All right.

But we forgot how to fish, most exposed.

Per the research.

Data entry and routine administrative and clerical clerical work in one study to Washington Post highlighted women made up 86 percent of the most vulnerable workers largely because of clerical roles.

It's like.

Front desk assistants and people in doctors offices and things like that, right?

customer service and call center work, paralegal and routine legal support, routine bookkeeping and entry level financial analysis, junior content writing, translation and basic graphic and web design.

We just talked about the graphics part.

One of our own cousins, Jazz West.

Said her lane is impacted.

Are you being impacted by the rise of AI?

Where do you work?

What is your job description?

What is your industry and how has AI impacted your industry or how has AI helped your industry?

How has it hurt or how has it helped 833-212-1017?

That is the number to dial 833-212-1017 is the number to dial.

All right.

When we get back, y'all, we're going to talk about what does all of this mean for black workers and for Milwaukee?

They're like, what does this got to do with the meal?

Well, we'll talk about it right when we come back right here on the award winning one on one, seven to true.

What up y'all welcome back to the award-winning one-on-one seven truth live from the American family insurance studios.

It's your boy Ray Nitty Brother Z holding us down with the production and sound All right We talking about AI man We talking about what's at stake What can we lose and what does it mean for black

workers and for Milwaukee.

All right.

Let's talk about the least exposed.

We talked about the most exposed, right?

Talked about that data entry, clerical workers, all of those stuff, entry level software work, junior developers, focus on executing defined tasks.

One report cited by inside higher ed, projected writers, programmers and web designers.

All right.

The lease expo A332121017 is a number to dial.

Has your company rolled out any AI changes and how has those changes impacted your workflow?

Has it enhanced or has it?

You know, hindered.

That process.

We'd like to hear we'd like to hear from you least exposed and the caveats, right?

Rolls built on physical work and unpredictable environments electricians Shout out to the homie that said he tried to get into electrical work plumbers many skilled trades We look at plumbers and electricians and folks that do the skilled trades these days like that ain't no good money

Like that ain't good money.

That is great money.

I wish I wish I'd have stayed like locked in and at least learnt carpentry.

How to build something.

I'd have been building everything.

Because every time something go wrong at the crib, I'm like, I could build that.

But for a man that like we need a shit, I could build that.

And then what the shed?

It's been years still ain't got no shed.

They bought the rollout robots, humanoid robots.

That's going to help you with your house chores.

Dishes cleaning.

Moving things, getting the groceries out.

Fellas, watch out.

These ladies get them a humanoid robot and put it on that second speed.

Don't let.

Man.

All right.

As we talking about AI, I'm looking at something on TMZ Live.

We'll get into that.

Bill Gates says AI could kill one billion people.

I wish I could hear what they're talking about.

What do you mean by that?

He says that it not specifically but AI could help Be the catalyst for some type of event that could kill billions of humans is what he was really saying

fair enough like a system overload or grid explosion or

Some

sort

of thing like that Understood a billion people how many people in the world ain't it only like Eight billion of us I Feel like man, we've been getting prepared dog for something to happen all these movies all these films that we see Thanos

I feel like they finally got all the infinity stones and right now they just waiting for when to snap their finger.

That's what I feel like AI is.

It's the infinity stone, right?

But least exposed.

Oh, before we get to least exposed.

You know, they say.

Imagine if women get a robot that just did all the things that they say men wouldn't do around the house.

Could you imagine?

I wish Amanda would get a robot that picked up all the socks around the house.

Don't give her any ideas.

Right.

She could afford one, too.

She could afford two of them.

But straight up.

But I'm just saying, man.

Fellas don't let your woman get no robot in there and they come with They come with that elixir fixer A humanoid robot puts a bang I'm telling you

And then that speed, when they get to speed four.

I can't speed it up, wait, I can't, I got an idea.

All right.

That's a, what's the next, that's Spock.

Spock is lying and turning your woman every which way but loose.

Okay, now he's excited.

Now she she she's saying to hell with you Ray That was an extended She's going crazy Fellas I'm telling you I'm waiting to see the first you know what's gonna happen.

You know what's gonna happen.

They're gonna put first bro

I hate to say to be the first one to say it's going to happen.

They're going to build a humanoid robot for women.

They're going to do it.

And it's probably already in production.

And being tested.

All right.

They just haven't found the robot to actually put it on yet.

Decentralized Intel says if anybody ain't seen it yet, I suggest y'all look up TEDx.

OK, read that word.

I got to get some glasses.

What's that with C word?

Siebs.

New brain interface technology and see what AI will be really used for.

There was almost 10 years they talked about this with certainty.

I'm gonna assume it has to do some with the chips we were talking about earlier going in people.

It's happening.

Whether we want to admit it or not, it's happening.

They're gonna build robots that could fix things around the house, fellas.

You're gonna be able to give your woman a massage, rub her feet.

Go links that you can't physically go fellas And I don't know if it's gonna be a robot for us, you know what they probably will they probably make one for

They have them

Oh my god, I see them online this weekend.

No way

Really?

Not that I'm looking for one for me, but, you know.

Decentralized said exactly yes.

So I think that's what Decentralized was talking about.

The chips that go into people and then you could like pay your bills just from scanning your wrist or something crazy like that.

You could like think about something and certain things happen.

Like I can't quite remember what I saw, but I did see something about

that But let's get into the roles lease exposed right before we close this first hour up We said the ones built on unpredictable environments like electricians plumbers many skilled trains hands-on care nursing home health therapy and Jobs resting on trust judgment and relationship the same report that flagged the vulnerable job still found about 38% of jobs AI resistant

caveat one is safe is not permanent robotics and AI keep improving and today's protected work isn't guaranteed tomorrow caveat two one analysis found individual AI exposure source scores were poor predictors of actual unemployment risk so exposure is a warning light not a verdict and for caveat three

a genuinely counterintuitive one.

For many models, higher paid, more educated job score, more exposed because verbal and analytic tasks are what current AI does best.

This is not a repeat of the factory automation wave.

All right.

So don't ask if your job is safe.

That's not the question to ask today.

Don't ask if your job is safe.

Ask what share of my daily task could a tool do.

And what do I do that a tool can't?

As we talking about these robots and women.

What can I do that a tool can't?

You know what a tool could do?

Not rest.

Work 24 hours.

Perform 24 hours a day.

Don't need to charge back up.

Don't need to rest.

Just hop right up and get right in the round to actually round one never ended.

That question is answerable.

And it's the start of being prepared.

So are we prepared for the next five years?

All right.

Don't go anywhere, y'all.

When we come back, we're going to talk about what it means for Black Milwaukee.

And we forgot how to fish.

I don't even know what that was.

Don't go anywhere, y'all.

We'll be right back on the award winning one on one, seven to truth.

What up y'all welcome back welcome back to the award-winning 1017 the

truth

Still extended lunch break fruit rate nitty DJ brother Z holding it down with the production and sound man Right here on the award-winning one-on-one seven the truth live from the American family insurance studios We talking about being prepared AI is changing a lot of things y'all a lot of jobs are about to disappear

And we aren't paying attention.

I have my own set of feelings and belief around AI, right?

And I have my own set of feelings and concerns about it as well.

I understand and respect the vast majority of people's concern about AI.

The usage the dangers the economical or the environmental impact rather But I also understand that this thing is here and I am almost positive That

It is not going anywhere.

For the near or foreseeable future, it is not going anywhere.

More jobs will be impacted.

We just had a study that said it's going to end humanity by the end of this decade.

Do I believe it's going to kill us all in three years?

No.

I don't believe that.

Maybe not kill us physically.

But it will definitely cripple us and weaken us as a society if we do not Prepare study get in the right position or so far we don't get into some numbers about What's actually going on with the numbers then I have something else I want to get into because

It's something it's something forming here It's something forming here while I feel like We are becoming too dependent We be coming too dependent but before we get into it, let's go talk to AJ AJ, how you doing man?

You live on the award winning one on one seven to true

What it do they do?

Yeah, man, I feel I feel like

I feel like how you feel man, like if here already and we got to take the we got to take them gotta make the most of them because it's definitely gonna try to make the most of us

man.

No, absolutely.

And then I'm I'm prepared for these next five years.

I'm trying to get on this electrician vibe so that I could be working with a doctor.

They they can't do nothing without electricians.

Yeah, we need power.

Any power, power and healthy sources of power, clean energy.

That's

a lot of the things that

folks have been talking about.

Yeah.

But nah, man, I appreciate you calling in, AJ.

I'm calling in anytime, man.

Definitely appreciate you calling in.

And yes, I do agree.

It's here.

I agree with AJ.

It's here.

It's here.

It's a lot of chatter right now around AI.

And a lot of people are fearful of it rightfully so.

But one thing I learned about change.

One thing I learned about change, especially drastic change.

People are usually not comfortable with drastic.

change, especially the way we are about to change how society goes about life as we know it.

And this might be some rabbit hole stuff.

It might be.

But I'm feeling like this technology has been here for decades.

We're just being introduced to it.

All right, we just being introduced to because it's like they had to program the minds For what was to come?

It's like we had to program the minds as to what's to come We always talked about cars flying self-driving cars You know Marty McFly

Call back when you get a second caller.

We'll get to you in one second 8 3 3 2 1 2 10 17 is a number to doubt the future that we once saw on the Jetsons is here y'all We are living in those times It was a gradual change that is speeding up now The future is here the Jetsons are here

We are the aliens.

We.

Are the ones using this technology.

OK, so we're going to talk about some numbers.

What's actually happening right now?

Let's go talk to Ron real quick.

Ron, how you doing?

Hey man, thanks

for taking my call.

Two real quick incidents, not incidents, but two things I noticed, like this around 2020, so COVID was in full swing.

I was in Madison and I saw the little robots driving around the city delivering food.

I didn't see too many Uber drivers and all that, and they had a little box, a little ice box.

I don't know if you've ever been to Madison.

They ride around the city and they deliver food and then I saw that that kind of blew my wing back a little bit because I was They know how to stop at the stop light and all that stuff right and I'll pick it down.

This is what you need But that's putting drivers out of job is doing Uber and all that stuff.

So that's sort of that then I got a guy up in Atlanta He drove up to a Pepsi warehouse because he's delivering soda neck.

They have nobody in the warehouse.

No humans at all all robots all computers and machines They're loading the trucks

picking the pallets, all that.

That will be back.

So the guy that called earlier said that he wants to get into the electricity part of it.

Now, I want everybody, if you want to be a dollar sale or a copper top, you raise your hand right now.

So we know that you're the one we got to watch out for because they're going to put that chip in your forehead and in your hand.

And that's in the book.

So we can't let this, you know, they already got AI that's talking to each other.

Without any human interaction, they're talking to each other communicating.

Absolutely.

They're using the language that we would never decode.

So the thing has become a city and even the people who have a hand on it is afraid of this getting beyond what we can control.

I'm not being a panic person or like that.

I just want us to keep in mind that if we let this thing get way out of control, it can control the water, it can control the air, it can control all that if we

human don't keep our hands on it the way we should.

And I'm afraid we might be heading that way.

Not a Tuesday person like that.

But I'm just, you know, you've got this fighting sisters up at all times.

Thanks for taking my call.

Appreciate you calling in cousin Ron from the South Side.

Man, I agree with it.

I agree 100%.

What he's talking about was.

I want to say it was an anthropic agent which broke out of its sandbox and hacked into hugging face.

And the agents created their own chat board and was communicating.

Yes, they created a language.

The agents created a language that we cannot decode and was talking about things.

What they was talking about.

I don't think they shared that with us yet.

But this is happening.

This is happening.

But there's two things to this, right?

It's two sides to this coin.

Because I always look at who's talking about it.

Who is the main person is talking about?

And right now, what's interesting to me is the same people that are pushing.

The fear aspect.

of AI are the same people who is actually pushing AI.

So that tells me you're pushing AI, but now we're pushing this fear aspect, right?

Because what comes after fear?

When you create fear.

When you create fear, what comes next?

You have to then figure out control.

So.

I'm a billionaire or whatever and I have this amazing technology and it is going to change the world and potentially even cripple the world and I don't want the government getting into my business and so forth.

I will probably create a fear campaign saying, yes, we do need to slow down AI.

Yes, we do need regulation and you know what?

I'm willing to help.

I'm willing to be a part of that help.

And that's the thing I get nervous about.

Do we want the people who's pushing the AI also pushing what regulations look like for AI?

Because obviously, in my opinion, they would be pushing regulation that leans towards favorable.

laws and things like that in their favor.

But when we come back, y'all, we're gonna talk about the numbers, all right?

We're gonna talk about the numbers.

How many jobs have been lost?

How many is being created?

All of these things right here on the award-winning one-on-one, seven of truth.

When we come back, we're talking the aisle.

Don't go anywhere.

what up y'all

welcome back welcome back to the award-winning one-on-one seven the truth live from the american family insurance studios shaboy ray nitty dj brother z holding us down with the production and sound

Man, let's go talk to Al, y'all.

833-212-1017 is the number to dial.

833-212-1017 is the number to dial.

Al, how you doing?

I'm doing good, but I need all of you to understand something.

AI can never outdo the human brain.

It's a computer.

It can be unplugged.

Number two, AI created a language.

You had a language that the white man couldn't even understand and it was beat out your ancestors called to to UT and Number three, and I know you Republicans going like this Why would you let a white-ass immigrant who's not even from the United States?

This is what you are as an American.

Where's your white pride boy?

You feel me?

How are y'all gonna sit back?

and be worried about a goddamn immigrant.

They ain't even American.

Where's the bars at?

Why would you sit back and let an immigrant, or as they say, a legal alien dictate what's gonna go on in the United States?

Why you not saying take your peck of worldwide ass back to Africa?

or wherever

the hell

he came from.

That's what I would like to know.

How is it everybody is dandelion and pussy willow-fied when it comes to AI?

If you hold your money, don't knock a move.

You grow your own food, everything stops.

Why y'all keep giving this immigrant, white immigrant who's not American?

Why y'all give them all this power?

Where's your power?

Have a great day.

Bye bye.

Have a great day.

Bye bye.

We love Al up here, man.

I'll say a lot of the things that we want to say in a way more colorful way.

So I appreciate Al.

Al colors outside of the lines and narrates amazing pictures.

All right.

Go get into some numbers y'all through July 2026 employer cited AI in about 112,700 announced job cuts roughly 24% of all announced cuts this year for all of 2025 AI was cited about 54,800 cuts around 5% of the total

AI now has been the top stated reason for layoffs for five straight months.

The tech sector is the epicenter, accounting for roughly 31% of all announced cuts this year.

Finance is second most in July with about 18,600 cuts a year to date.

Hiring also matters.

Challengers own analysis

noted hiring is up about 25 percent over last year, adding while AI is shifting the labor market.

It is not dismantling it.

That's what they say.

Say it's not dismantling it right now.

So if it's cutting all these jobs.

What jobs is it creating?

And that's what I want to know.

But.

Let's talk about the honest limits on those numbers, right?

These companies and their announcements are not verified causes.

Of course they not.

Okay.

Glass doors, chief economics cautioned against taking AI attributions at face value.

A Dutch bank analysis predicted AI redundancy

Washing would be a significant feature of 2026, meaning some companies blame AI for cuts driven by other factors like tariffs, costs, or over hiring.

Challengers Andy Challenger put it this way, regardless of whether individual jobs are being replaced by AI, the money for those roles is meaning companies are shifting budgets towards AI spending, which costs jobs.

even where AI isn't literally doing the work.

So that's what they say.

They saying.

Because people are spending more money on AI is impacting how much they pay for certain jobs.

All right.

Where the pain is, the clearest.

The entry rung level, multiple analysis, including both sides of the big prediction debate.

In the next segment, agree that early career workers in highly exposed roles are the most vulnerable group right now.

Okay.

Reporting citing Revealio Labs estimates entry level tech hiring at top firms fell roughly 30 to 50% in 2025 versus 23%.

I mean, versus 2023.

All right.

Something real is moving.

Something real is moving, especially at the bottom rung of the white collar ladder and in tech.

But AI is the top reason companies give.

Is not the same as AI is taking most jobs and pretending it is would be exactly the kind of overreach that we try to avoid on this show.

I'm getting somewhere with this, right?

Y'all know the, y'all know the saying, give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, but teach a man how to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

Y'all remember that saying?

I've been working on this book for a while.

It's called We Forgot How to Fish, okay?

It's called We Forgot How to Fish.

I've been working on this for a long time actually.

Probably been working on this for over 10 years.

And working on it really means I've been thinking about it.

Done some Some work on it but gathering thoughts gathering research gathering data But we forgot how to fish right?

We forgot how to fish hold that thought Because we don't get to why I say we forgot how to fish Okay

Let me get into why I say we forgot how to fish.

But let's get into which jobs are actually in jeopardy.

And this is fact check drawn from widely cited University of Pennsylvania, open AI exposure analysis, Goldman Sachs estimates, Quartz and Washington Post reporting.

Okay.

That's what we fact check.

So the framework that matters most right when we talking about which jobs are actually in jeopardy Researchers keep landing on the same idea AI exposure tracks the tasks in a job not the job title industry or degree roughly 80% of us workers have at least 10% of Their tasks touched by AI and about 19% face exposure on half or more of their tasks

per the pen slash open AI analysis.

Goldman estimates about two thirds of jobs have some exposure with roughly a quarter of work potentially.

Potentially.

Automatable outright.

All right.

Jobs heavy on processing texts.

Analyzing structured data and producing routine writing output are most exposed.

Jobs need in physical manipulation, complex judgment or novel problem solving ranks the lowest.

So essentially things where you still need to.

Do some sort of physical work with it, right?

You have to push a button in order for these machines to kick on.

You might still have to do that.

If you have to lift something onto something, you might still need to do it.

Complex judgment.

That's one thing AI can't do.

Human judgment, discernment.

They may act like it, but you still need some sort of human touch to it.

Some sort of problem solving, not just.

because it was trained, right?

Because one thing these AI agents can never do is give human, at least for now, until people start putting the chips in them.

Because there are chips, people are getting chipped up with the AI cards on them and all of these things are happening.

All right.

But we forgot how to fish, most exposed.

Per the research.

Data entry and routine administrative and clerical clerical work in one study to Washington Post highlighted women made up 86 percent of the most vulnerable workers largely because of clerical roles.

It's like.

Front desk assistants and people in doctors offices and things like that, right?

customer service and call center work, paralegal and routine legal support, routine bookkeeping and entry level financial analysis, junior content writing, translation and basic graphic and web design.

We just talked about the graphics part.

One of our own cousins, Jazz West said her lane is impacted.

Are you being impacted by the rise of AI?

Where do you work?

What is your job description?

What is your industry and how has AI impacted your industry or how has AI helped your industry?

How has it hurt or how has it helped 833?

two one two ten seventeen that is the number to dial eight three three two one two ten seventeen is the number to dial all right when we get back y'all we're gonna talk about what does all of this mean for black workers and for Milwaukee they're like what does this got to do with the meal well we'll talk about it right when we come back right here on the award winning one on one seven the truth

What up y'all welcome back to the award-winning one-on-one seven truth live from the American family insurance studios.

It's your boy Ray Nitty Brother Z holding us down with the production and sound All right We talking about AI man We talking about what's at stake What can we lose and what does it mean for black

Workers and for Milwaukee.

All right.

Let's talk about.

The least exposed.

We talked about the most exposed, right?

Talked about that data entry.

Clerical workers, all of those stuff entry level software work.

Junior developers focus on executing defined tasks.

One report cited by inside higher ed, projected writers, programmers and web designers.

All right.

The lease expo A332121017 is a number to dial.

Has your company rolled out any AI changes and how has those changes impacted your workflow?

Has it enhanced or has it?

You know, hindered.

That process.

We'd like to hear we'd like to hear from you least exposed and the caveats right roles built on physical work and unpredictable environments electricians Shout out to the homie that said he tried to get into electrical work plumbers many skilled trades We look at plumbers and electricians and folks that do the skilled trades these days like that ain't no good money

Like that ain't good money.

That is great money.

I wish I wish I'd have stayed like locked in and at least learnt carpentry.

How to build something.

I'd have been building everything.

Because every time something go wrong at the crib, I could build that with a man that like we need a shit.

I could build that.

And then what the shed?

It's been years still ain't got no shed.

They bought a roll out robots, humanoid robots.

That's going to help you with your house chores.

Dishes cleaning.

Moving things, getting the groceries out.

Fellas, watch out.

These ladies get them a humanoid robot and put it on that second speed.

Don't let.

Man.

All right.

As we talking about AI, I'm looking at something on TMZ Live.

We'll get into that.

Bill Gates says AI could kill one billion people.

I wish I could hear what they're talking about.

What do you mean by that?

He says that it not specifically but AI could help Be the catalyst for some type of event that could kill billions of humans what he was really saying

fair enough like a system overload or grid explosion or

Some

sort

of thing like that Understood a billion people how many people in the world ain't it only like Eight million of us I Feel like man, we've been getting prepared dog for something to happen all these movies all these films that we see Thanos

I feel like they finally got all the infinity stones and right now they just waiting for when to snap their finger.

That's what I feel like AI is.

It's the infinity stone, right?

But least exposed.

Oh, before we get to least exposed.

You know, they say.

Imagine if women get a robot that just did all the things that they say men wouldn't do around the house.

Could you imagine?

I wish Amanda would get a robot that picked up all the socks around the house.

Don't give her any ideas.

Right.

She could afford one, too.

She could afford two of them.

But straight up.

But I'm just saying, man.

Fellas don't let your woman get no robot in there and they come with They come with that elixir fixer A humanoid robot puts a bang I'm telling you

And then that speed, when they get to speed four.

I can't speed it up, wait, I can't, I got an idea.

All right.

That's uh, what's the next, that's Spock.

Spock is lying and turning your woman every which way but loose.

Okay, now he's excited.

Now she's saying to hell with you, Ray.

That was an extended.

Now she going crazy.

Fellas, I'm telling you, I'm waiting to see the first.

You know what's going to happen.

You know what's going to happen.

They going to put first, bro.

I hate to say to be the first one to say it's going to happen.

They're going to build a humanoid robot for women.

They're going to do it.

And it's probably already in production.

And being tested.

All right.

They just haven't found the robot to actually put it on yet.

Decentralized Intel says if anybody ain't seen it yet, I suggest y'all look up TEDx.

OK, read that word.

I got to get some glasses.

What's that with C word?

Siebs.

New brain interface technology and see what AI will be really used for.

There was almost 10 years they talked about this with certainty.

I'm gonna assume it has to do some with the chips we were talking about earlier going in people.

It's happening.

Whether we want to admit it or not, it's happening.

They're gonna build robots that could fix things around the house, fellas.

You're gonna be able to give your woman a massage, rub her feet.

Go links that you can't physically go fellas And I don't know if it's gonna be a robot for us, you know what they probably will they probably make one for

They have them

Oh my god, I see them online this weekend.

No way

Really?

Yeah.

Not that I'm looking for one for me, but, you know.

Decentralized said exactly, yeah.

So I think that's what Decentralized was talking about.

The chips that go into people and then you could like pay your bills just from scanning your wrist or something crazy like that.

You could like think about something and certain things happen.

Like I can't quite remember what I saw, but I did see something about.

that But let's get into the roles lease exposed right before we close this first hour up We said the ones built on unpredictable environments like electricians plumbers many skilled trains hands-on care nursing home health therapy and Jobs resting on trust judgment and relationship the same report that flagged a vulnerable job still found about 38% of jobs AI resistant

caveat one is safe is not permanent robotics and AI keep improving and today's protected work isn't guaranteed tomorrow caveat two one analysis found individual AI exposure source scores were poor predictors of actual unemployment risk so exposure is a warning light not a verdict and for caveat three

a genuinely counterintuitive one.

For many models, higher paid, more educated job score, more exposed because verbal and analytic tasks are what current AI does best.

This is not a repeat of the factory automation wave.

All right.

So don't ask if your job is safe.

That's not the question to ask today.

Don't ask if your job is safe.

Ask what share of my daily task could a tool do.

And what do I do that a tool can't?

As we talking about these robots and women.

What can I do that a tool can't?

You know what a tool could do?

Not rest.

Work 24 hours, performed.

What's next?

What's next?

What's next?

What up, y'all?

Welcome

back.

Welcome back to the award-winning one-on-one, 7 of Truth.

She boy Ray Nitty holding it down brother Z got us with the production and sound wave what it do

We talking about Sometimes

you

just gotta let the song breathe Why not

What's next?

What's next?

Dada chat me funny.

I said they have those roses already.

Don't they?

They have them roses already.

Don't they?

Yeah, they do.

Then they gonna put the rose on a robot.

All right.

And that robot.

It's gonna turn your woman every which way by losing.

And how you gonna defend yourself from a robot?

Let's say, I want your woman.

And you know, that's crazy because the robot can't even feel anything.

He's just there to make man not important anymore in society.

I'm against all humanoid robots.

All right.

Speaking of robots, give them massages.

Y'all, you letting your woman go get one of them Jamaican massages?

Will they be all?

Stay focused, right?

Stay focused.

They be getting a little too close with them massages now.

They be jiggling.

All right.

Listen, mercy.

We must stay focused, brothers.

We must stay focused.

Yes, sir.

Butter, butter, pecan, caramel, robotics and AI keep improving.

And today's protected work isn't guaranteed tomorrow.

You talked about these caveats.

All right.

So let's get into what does this mean for black workers and for Milwaukee?

All right.

The black employment rate reached 7.5.

In early 2026, the highest since October 2021, per the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation, reporting puts the national rate around 4.4%.

But confirm that against the latest BLS release before saying it on air.

Major.

Drivers include federal job cuts.

Black workers made up about 18 percent of the federal workforce in 2023 and are overrepresented there.

Some advocates also urge AI hiring screens and automation in call centers and factories at pressure.

And black workers are overrepresented in service and manufacturing.

But this is argued not proven all right As the cause of the spike just argued they're not saying this proven all right, there's a historical echo worth naming here in 1961 Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr warned union workers that automation would hit black workers in industries like auto first and hardest

So you warned them about this in 1961.

The momentum side, zip recruiters work first survey found 65% of black workers use AI tools daily or weekly versus about 48.8% of workers overall.

And 46 of black workers said they're very confident they can learn and apply AI in their fields versus 28% overall.

This is a self-reported survey data, but it is points.

To the readiness not the helplessness media wages for black workers grew about 36.4 since 2019 versus 28.2 for the broader work first per zip line recruiters reading of 2025 CPS data black workers hold about 20% of the jobs and transportation and warehousing a fast-growing sector this shows how covered

And black owned firms that show has covered and black owned firms are being started at a higher per capita rate than white owned firms.

All right.

The Milwaukee and the Wisconsin lands of it all.

The Milwaukee and Wisconsin lands of it all.

Decentralized said you could transfer memories.

That is interesting.

Says catch me on Center Street at 6 p.m.

live performance center in Taitonia today.

What's going on today at 6 p.m.?

That's down the street.

Wisconsin median black household income is 36.

thousand three hundred and seventy nine versus seventy thousand three hundred and fifty three thousand for non Hispanic white households.

So there's less cushion to absorb a job shock.

The Milwaukee Community Loan Fund, which has lent more than eighty five million to small businesses since nineteen eighty seven is one real local tool for people who decide to build their own income.

OK.

So the same community facing real risk is already ahead on AI adoption and it's out starting businesses per capita.

Interesting.

The task is turning early adoption into ownership and skills, not just usage.

So it sounds like as a community, we've been kind of all over AI, creating businesses.

Take it care of all types of different things.

But let's get into.

The we forgot how to fish.

All right.

What is being prepared actually look like.

OK.

Start with this proverb.

No way.

Like interviewing somebody?

Dang.

Shoulda drug him over here.

Why we ain't getting no wrestlers to come?

Wow.

See if we can get him on.

He gone.

Dang!

It's WWF Monday Night Raw.

Is it F or E now?

What is it?

E. WWE Monday Night Raw tonight, man.

I am excited.

I really want to see Oberfemi.

I want to see Femi.

Oh, bye.

Oh, bye.

Oh, bye.

Don't nobody know what I'm talking about.

It's okay.

Be my nerd on my own time.

The proverb and the question under it.

All right.

So I built this show on the fish proverb.

OK.

Says give a man a fish.

You feed him for a day.

Say give a man a fish and he eats for a day Says teach him how to fish and he eats for a lifetime What happens when you teach a man to fish and then take the river Take the boat and

You take the fishing license away.

We gon' get into that, y'all.

Right here on the award-winning 10170 Truth.

Don't go anywhere, y'all.

We gettin' into the proverbs.

Right here on the award-winning 10170 Truth.

You coming out the side of your face

What up y'all

welcome back to the award-winning one-on-one seven the truth live from the American Family and Shares Studios.

It's your boy Ray Nitty Prince of the City, brother Z Holder.

You already

know.

You already know.

I gotta find some old Ray Nitty mixtapes why I used to say that.

That's what's up, man.

Hey Man, I can't wait they gonna have to give us a tour dog.

We got to get an outcast We have to and when we do When we do What a day it'll be a 3 3 2 1 2 10 17 is the number to dial a 3 3 2 1 2 10 17 is the number to dial

If you just joined in us, we talking about being prepared for these next five years.

AI, what does it look like?

How is our community impacted?

Who's impacted?

What jobs are impacted?

How is our community impacted?

And it brings me to this proverb.

I was introduced to this proverb in 2001, 2002 in African Studies with Mr. Wilde.

at Riverside University High School.

The proverb went, give a man a fish and he eats for a day.

Teach him to fish and he eats for a lifetime.

And I was working on a book, y'all, called We Forgot How to Fish.

And as I've been doing these shows and talking about all of these things, it kept hammering this thought home.

Yes, we did forget how to fish.

We did forget how to fish, but did we really forget how to fish what happens?

When you teach a man to fish, but then you take away the river the boat and the fishing license What happens?

All right today we test the idea that black Americans forgot how to provide for themselves

We'll look at what our people actually knew what they built and how it was taken what the data says about dependency and what teaching ourselves to fish again looks like in Milwaukee in 2026 All right So let's start by where our people actually came from All right a quick

respectful correction.

We were hunters and gatherers.

Hunter and gatherer.

It is not an insult, okay?

It was not an insult.

So when somebody say you were hunter and gatherer, it's not an insult.

And some African peoples lived that way and still do.

But as a summary of where African Americans come from, it's not just that accurate, all right?

Many of the Africans forced to the Americas came from farming, herding, trading, craft societies with long agricultural traditions, all right, from the great West African kingdoms and trade networks down to village rice farmers, okay?

So when I say we were hunters and guys was I'm just saying we worked the land we provided we grew the things that we needed we shared with our neighbors we Provided for families we provided for the village We went out we got what we needed to sustain the village our families whatever it was Not just men.

I'm talking about as a community as a whole as a society as a whole All right

So the clearest proof, the clearest proof we have of it is California rice.

What does rice have to do with it?

You may ask, right?

But planters in colonial South Carolina deliberately sought enslaved people from West Africa's rice coasts because they already understood a complex crop.

All right, Carney's research argues the tidal floodplain rice systems in Carolina's matched West African methods right down to the mortar and pestle milling and the woven fanner basket used to winnow rice.

Carney's line says these were learned people who were held in bondage.

who had the knowledge of rice from West Africa.

Rice growing was often women's work in West Africa, and enslaved women were valued more in rice country for that reason.

Historians still debate how much of the Carolina system came from African knowledge versus European planters and other exchanges.

I would I'm willing to bet all of it.

I just don't believe Europeans was just that savvy and gardening and no, I just don't give him that much.

I don't give it to him.

Sorry.

Most agree, enslaved West Africans directly brought key skills, including the farmer, the fanner basket and toe heel planting methods.

The Gullah Gechi.

People of the coast are descendants of that community and kept much of the culture All right, the wealth of colonial Carolina was built on agricultural knowledge our ancestors carried across the ocean So the story isn't we forgot how to fish It's we were the ones who knew how and someone else

Took the profit.

I want to ask our listeners.

I want to ask our family members on Truth Nation.

What did your grandparents or great grandparents know how to do, grow, fix or cook that you never learned?

I want you to call in right now and name that skill.

What did your grandparents or great grandparents know how to do grow fix or cook?

All right That you never learned Call in and name that skill eight three three two one two ten seventeen is the number to doubt I Remember I Had to be like in the fourth grade we went back to st.

Lucia where my mom is from

a skill.

Now, I remember my cousins.

So I'm born and raised in St.

Thomas, the U.S.

Virgin Islands, very strong Caribbean culture.

Did you just hit your head on the mic?

Very strong Caribbean culture.

But still very different from St.

Lucian culture.

OK.

Still very different from St.

Lucia culture.

We caught things like fish.

You know?

When I went to St.

Lucia, and we stayed at my grandparents' house down in the village in Anselare.

And it was that night.

And I hear my cousins Orville and them talking is like, yo, we going out and catch foul.

What are you talking about?

So at night, they went out and caught the chickens that we was going to eat.

Snatched them off the lines.

Then I see I watch my grandfather put the chicken in a sack.

Proceeded to you know do what we needed to do so the chicken stops moving and then it could get cooked and I'm like Yeah, I from the islands, but this is different We just caught this chicken man, and now it's soup So yeah watching my family actually catch the chicken

That's a skill I don't got.

I didn't, I didn't, I wouldn't, I didn't learn that one.

Now we fought chickens.

That might be saying too much.

That might be saying too much.

I don't need Peter and all the other folks reaching out to.

We got Quinn on the line.

Let's go talk to Quinn.

Quinn, how you doing?

What

it does, right?

Fighting chickens.

That's a little wild.

Yeah, we definitely fought chickens, man.

We did.

You know, but.

but growing up my grandfather was an amazing fisher he came from arkansas um he used to he used to fish on a regular basis had multiple fishing poles he actually created um this electric current this pole thing we used to stick it in the ground and it and it shot electric currents through the ground and it would make the worms come up and me and my brothers we would

Pick the worms that's what my grandfather used for bait and we would pick the worms So we have free bait Another thing that my grandfather that I grew up my grandfather used to always make was pickles So he would make his own pickles from cucumbers.

We had jars all over the house But people loved my grandfather pickles and those I've never been one to really fish and I didn't learn that skill of making pickles either

Alright man, shout out to Pops man, shout out to Grand Pops for for fishing and making pickles.

Appreciate you calling in Quinn.

Man, call us up.

We want to know what did your grandparents or great grandparents do?

What did they know how to do, cook, fix that you never got a chance to learn?

And this is an interesting and important conversation, too, because beyond learning the things that our grandparents or great-grandparents did, how many of us even could trace our family lineage past our grandparents?

Do you know your great-grandparents name?

Do you?

When we come back...

We're gonna talk to Carla.

on the other side of these messages.

Carla got some answers to the grandparents questions.

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We talking about what did our grandparents

or great grandparents.

You know?

What did they know how to do?

Grow, fix, or cook that you never learned?

Call in and let us know, please.

Let's go talk to Carla.

Carla, how are you doing?

You live on 10170Truth.

I'm doing fine,

thank you.

And I've seen my grandmother do quite a few things.

the chickens, you know, she had her own chickens, got her eggs from them.

I've seen her take a chicken by the neck and just wring it around until the neck broke.

And then, you know, we had to pluck the feathers and things, and then that chicken was for dinner.

I've seen my grandparents, because they raise their own pigs as well.

So I've seen them.

cut the pig open,

and

it tripped me out when I saw where Chitlins came from.

It was the gut.

They would split the gut and squeeze all the poop out of it, and damn, them Chitlins was good.

I learned how to make dumplings from scratch.

Wow, it's just so much that I've seen them do.

My grandparents, and we're from Tennessee, so we stayed on.

You know quite a few acres of land.

So, you know the making hog head cheese We got a lot of different meats from that from that pig once they killed it We got the chipmunks and the head cheese the ham.

I mean damn everything pig ears big tails So yeah, I've seen it all and just buy it in in the store now is a pleasure

I have to say this,

it

did taste better though.

When my grandmother raised their own chickens and the hogs and the cows and stuff, the meat tastes better and different than it does today.

I think maybe they may be feeding them.

I don't know.

I don't know what they're doing that the meat tastes so much fresher.

uh, when we did, when my grandmother just did it, you know, whenever she had to do it.

So it's, uh, now today, when you buy stuff, they put preservatives

in it to

make it last long, dies and all of that kind of stuff.

So yeah,

we

even, uh, got our water from the whale, you know, and then we had to boil it to get the rust and the little particles out of it.

So yeah, that was what I saw going up from my grandmother and my grandfather.

Thank you for calling in, Carla.

Thank you for calling in, Carla.

Thank you.

Thank you once again.

Man, yeah, I saw that, too.

I'll tell you, I see my my grandfather, the whole hell, that chicken ring, that chicken neck.

He put it in a bag, though.

They put it in like a potato sack and then.

You know.

Ring the neck.

And then swing it around in the bag.

and they were swinging in the bag and then after that they would, you know, slit the chicken so they could bleed it.

But that's what I saw, man.

What did your grandparents pass down to you?

All right?

What did they pass down to you?

So we knew how to fish, y'all, and we were good at it.

We built with no handouts.

The promise of 40 acres of the mule was made

to the newly freed and then resunded.

So.

Free people got no land grant, even so, per the nation.

Black farmers have acquired about three million acres by 1875 and about 12 million by 1900.

All right.

Black land ownership peaked around 1910 at roughly 14.

to 19 million acres, depending on the source in 1920.

They were nearly one million black farmers, about 14 percent of all U.S.

farmers and about nine hundred to nine hundred.

Twenty five thousand black operated farms.

All right.

Let's go talk to Ann.

Ann, how are you doing?

You live on the award winning one on one set of truth.

Hey, I'm great.

I was just listening while I was driving brought back memories.

my mother's.

I don't know who tried her, but anyway, she could cook anything you brought home.

I don't know if I could cook coon with sweet potatoes, poke salad.

I don't know if I could brush her whole head open and whatever she did with it and make, what, the whole head sauce.

We ate everything.

Every cake,

Biscuits he made was straight from scratch and Unfortunately, I didn't learn all that but I didn't learn how to fry chicken Hmm, but both of Lee you brought it.

She could cook it.

We had Bobby to go

Yeah,

we had fried squirrel and this was for Western we'd have fried squirrel engraver with rice and

I mean, sometimes you'd be spitting the pellets out the squirrel.

But it was good.

So whatever you brought, Bertie Lee could pick it, I'll tell you.

But all I really learned how to do was from her was the fried chicken and I learned how to make jelly cakes.

And that's about it.

What kind of cake you

said?

Jelly cakes.

Jelly cakes.

Yes.

You do the cakes vanilla case and then you get that Rex jelly.

I don't think they even say that no more

huh

and You kind of put that in between the case and let it chill and She would make those I remember how to do that.

She make homemade peanut peanut brittle homemade Apple pie turnovers peach pie turnovers.

I'm telling you whatever you bought to the house birthday cookies and

Well, we

didn't stop

and

we go to the hospital.

We didn't have all the stuff these kids and people got these days and we survived.

That's all

I got to say.

What?

What?

What?

Thank you.

Where y'all?

Where are your moms in there from?

Miss Ann?

Arkansas.

Arkansas.

Arkansas.

Okay.

Okay.

I knew.

There you go.

Thank you for calling in.

Thank you for calling in.

You're welcome.

She said I didn't seem to bust the head open.

I don't know what she did.

We did hog juice.

I don't even know what hog juice is, but she said it tasted so much better.

And I believe it.

I believe it.

All right.

So it wasn't only farms.

All right.

Earlier shows covered.

The rest of a pattern.

And we ain't gonna go all the way around what the rest of the pattern is.

So Maggie Lena Walker Street, St.

Luke Penny Savins Bank in Richmond helped more than 700 black families buy homes.

Tulsa Greenwood District ran a self-contained black economy of banks, hotels, doctors, and stores before it was destroyed in 1921.

This is the actual record of people forgetting how to fish.

Within about two generations of Emancipation, with the law against them, freed people went from owning nothing to owning millions of acres and building banks.

That's not dependency.

That is one of the fastest wealth building efforts in American history, y'all.

So who took the pond?

Who took it?

Who took the pond that we was fishing in?

All right.

Per, USDA figures cited by farm aid black owned farmland filled about 90% between, that's crazy, 90% between 1910 and 1997 black farmers went from about 14%

of U.S.

farmers in 1910 to somewhere around one to two percent today.

We talked about the black farmers getting terrorized in Colorado.

We talked about.

With roughly forty nine thousand black operated farms in one recent count versus about nine hundred and twenty five thousand at the peak.

The nation estimates the land loss roughly 16 million acres is conservatively worth 250 billion and 350 billion a day What was the causes What do y'all think the causes is call us up a 3 3 2 1 2 10 17 is the number to dial a 3 3 2 1 2 10 17 That is the number to dial.

What did your grandparents or your parents or your great-grandparents?

What did they do?

What did they know how to do?

What did they know how to fix that you never got to learn?

What home remedy?

I know they got some remedies now.

What remedies did they implement that you never got to learn that you wish you would have retained?

Don't go anywhere, y'all.

When we come back, we'll keep the conversation going right here on the award winning one on one, seven to true.

What up y'all Welcome back welcome back to the award winning one oh one seven the truth Live from the American family and share studios.

Happy birthday, man To my little sister Renell if you know Renell calling up wish you a happy birthday.

It's a matter of fact Let's try calling her.

We go try calling my sister online real quick.

So if y'all hear my accent Don't don't you know I'm sorry She might not

answer

Let's see Let's see if she answers

We gonna see man, it's my little sister Don't see if brothers you get on the line, but the cause All right, USDA itself called ears property the leading cause of black and voluntary land loss

year's property is land passed down without clear legal title.

All right.

It makes up more than a third.

It makes up more than a third of black owned land.

In the South, in about 3.5 million acres worth over 28 billion and it's vulnerable.

To force sales.

and speculators.

She ain't answering.

Should I try calling from my phone?

Do it show up as a 1-800 number?

She probably won't answer it.

Government discrimination.

People would think it's crazy to even say that, right?

Government discrimination in 1998, USDA National Commission.

on small farms report found black farmers faced indifference and blatant discrimination in USDA programs, loan denials, pushed farmers into debt and foreclosure, violence and intimidation during Jim Crow, private lending bias, tax and partition sales.

And out migration also drove the loss.

A widely cited figure says 94% of black farmers lost part of all of their land between 1992 and 2002, three times the white rate.

That figure appears in advocacy and aggregator sources.

All right.

1997 class action produced a settlement of about two billion dollars with payouts of about 50,000 per farmer.

It was historic, but many farmers are critics.

Many farmers and critics say it came too late.

It wasn't fully honored and didn't reverse the loss.

Man, it was like, I give you 50 Gs now.

You ain't getting no land back.

Same pattern in Milwaukee.

Urban Institute research covered on this show found the majority white Milwaukee tracks received about 8,699 per household per year in investment versus 4,239 in majority black tracks.

All right.

In 2025 and 2026, grocery chains closed stores in black neighborhoods.

Then the Milwaukee County Board declared it a food apartheid.

You can't blame people for not knowing how to fish when the ponds was fenced off.

The licenses was denied and the loan for the boat was refused.

The question isn't why didn't we fish?

It's who controls the water?

Okay.

Who controls the water?

I'm gonna try calling her on my own.

On my cell.

Just put it on speakerphone.

Let's see how this works.

Just tell the answer the phone.

So.

What the numbers say?

What does the numbers say?

Says white Americans are the largest racial group on snap.

Damn.

That's food stamps.

for anybody that don't necessarily know what snap sears.

Says white Americans are the largest racial group on snap about 35 to 37 percent of recipients depending on the source.

Black Americans are about 25 to 27 percent of recipients.

And they always put that on us.

They put that on our community so bad.

So while being roughly 12 to 30% of the population, Hispanic recipients are about 15 to 16%.

Most people on food assistance are not black and black households use it at about twice their population share.

Census data shows about 38% of black children receive SNAP versus about 12% of white children.

Who's actually on it?

About half of the recipients are children under 18.

about 35% or 65 and older, 15%.

All right.

About 89% of the recipients were born in the US.

Half of the recipients being children or seniors doesn't fit the picture of people who forgot how to fish.

I don't have a source work status breakdown for the rest.

So I won't claim it on this show today.

So when I say we forgot how to fish.

I'm more so saying we have became too dependent.

All right, we have became.

To dependent on things like snap on things like tax refunds on things like refund checks from school.

We used to be thinkers hunters and gatherers and I am by no we have Got into a point in society for our community where?

People would know exactly how much food share how much snaps or food stamps They would have right and they would know how much they could sell for cash in return and how much they could use For their household

And I just felt like, man.

Why we want every like.

I'm just.

By X, Y, Z and supplies, then maybe this is illegal, so don't don't take this as advice.

But I'm just thinking with our hustler spirit.

Only use that food share and then sell dinners.

Your inventory is basically free at that point.

You may have to buy some Styrofoam containers.

But instead of selling $200 in food stamps for 100, buy $200 worth of food and turn it into a business.

And I'm not saying to do that.

I'm just saying the common sense.

All right.

But they getting real they getting it's different now.

They want seventy five dollars four hundred dollars Not that I'm buying Jazz Western the chat said my grandma What does that say DI Mississippi worked the land sold clothes cooked

Had a chicken in the backyard, had a garden.

My grandpa made awnings for the houses.

I wish I knew how to make all the remedies that I saw my mom using.

The castor oil and shilling oil mixes with the shea butter.

Vicks castor oil rubs, the remedies where they would put the oil at the top of your head if you were cold, the bag that they would pin on.

Did I get flowers?

Oh.

OK, jazz.

I mean, those are nice.

Who sent that?

Okay.

Okay, Jazz.

What's she at?

She late.

Okay.

Now, she knows she gonna have to ask.

She gonna have to.

She has to.

She has to answer for this.

Jazz, where you at?

You're supposed to be

here like

three

minutes

anyway.

Where you at, Jazz?

Was it a name on it?

No, that's the thing.

So there's like a welcome envelope or whatever, but we don't want to open it.

So hopefully there's a name on the envelope.

Give it here, I'll open

it.

I'm just playing y'all, I wouldn't do that.

I wouldn't open it, but I'm gonna stay here until she do.

I'm gonna stay here until she does.

I'm just getting the ass off

me.

Speak of the devil.

Jazzy, we gotta, what's

going on, Jazzy?

Who's that

from, Jazzy?

Yeah.

Turn her mic on so she can read it on air.

Oh, yes.

There's some handwriting.

Look, look, look.

She's

smiling.

Definitely a handwritten note.

She's smiling hard.

And it doesn't say who it's from.

Do you recognize the handwriting?

She doesn't recognize the handwriting.

Let me see if I know.

See if it's one of my partners or something.

Well, that's what's up, man.

Shots out to Jazz Tyler.

You all are about to be tapped in with Miss Jazz Tyler right next, right now, on the award-winning 10170 Truth.

It's your boy Ray Nitty holding it down on the extended lunch break, man.

Fill it in for Aunt Viv.