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I want to talk about.

Do you know, rather?

Do you know who?

Lonnie Bunch is.

Do you know who Lonnie Bunch is?

I want to talk about Lonnie Bunch today.

I'm going to talk about some other things as well today.

We gonna talk about who Lonnie bunch is Just trying to find Who Lonnie bunch is y'all if you don't know if you don't know who he is right and his departure All right his departure

Quick quick history So this is our fact checked and confirmed via the Smithsonian's own official bio NBC news and ABC news All right Lonnie G. Bunch the third became the 14th Secretary of the Smithsonian Institution in June 2019

The first black person and the first professional historian ever deleted He oversees 21 museums 21 libraries the national zoo and numerous research centers All right Before that He was the founding director of the National Museum of African-American history and culture

Which he built from nothing into one of the most visited museums on the National Mall All right We talking about Lonnie Bunch y'all if y'all not familiar If y'all not familiar we gonna get into why he was important and what does it have to do with Milwaukee?

Because I know y'all like to figure out.

Okay.

How does this tie back?

All right

So we said before he was the founding director of the National Museum of he built from nothing.

A project he chronicled in his own book, A Fool's Aaron, building the National Museum of African American history and culture in the age of Bush, Obama and Trump.

That's an error, ain't it?

That's an error.

He spent 38 years.

Total at the Smithsonian nearly half his life and received France's highest honor, the Legion of Honor in 2021.

Well decorated, brother.

On Tuesday, September 8th, Bunch announced he'll step down by the end of 2026.

His statement was, I depart with very mixed emotions.

and heartfelt gratitude.

I've spent nearly half of my life working at and being part of the Smithsonian family and what a privilege it has been.

The ABC News directly, he was more pointed about why now.

I have fought for as long as I can.

I love this country and I love the Smithsonian and I will always work to defend our more perfect union.

A person's familiar, a person familiar with the situation told NBC News, there was no pressure from the Smithsonian's own governing board, the Regents, for the bunch for bunch to resign.

This was his own decision and he'd reportedly wanted

He'd wanted to retire full year earlier, but stayed specifically to keep defending the institution from White House pressure.

All right.

So this isn't a scandal forced resignation or a board pushing him out.

It's a man who built the nation's Black History Museum from scratch, deciding the fight has reached a point where he believes stepping aside on his own terms is the right move.

That distinction matters for how you frame how we frame the rest of this hour.

Are y'all familiar with?

Brother Bunch.

Was a year long fight that led us here.

Are we familiar with it?

Smithsonian building.

All these museums, all these hotels, all the hotels, all these libraries.

Zoo.

And I felt like it was pressure.

I felt like it was pressure.

Let's let's let's talk about how it started.

All right.

So in March.

Trump signed an executive order titled.

Restoring truth and sanity.

to American history.

Specifically, naming the National Museum of African American History and Culture and directing that no Smithsonian funding support, what the order called improper ideology.

You see, was we always have this, right?

Attacking our history, attacking our legacy, our attacking our.

Places that.

Tales our stories, preserves our history.

Say we ain't funded it no more.

We ain't funded it no more.

They say it's a proper ideology.

I wonder why.

What makes it the improper ideology?

That's a good question.

Somebody asks, is that man related to Ralph K. Bunch?

His eyes, B, U, N, C, H, no E at the end.

So I'm going to say, uh, unless the ear at your end was a typo.

All right.

So Trump specifically naming the National Museum of African American History and Culture and directing that no Smith, Sony and funding support what the order called improper ideology.

The order's core argument is that the American culture institutions has engaged in a. Concerted and widespread effort to rewrite our nation's history, replacing objective, objective facts with a distorted narrative driven by ideology.

And that the nation's history was being reconstructed.

as inherently racist, sexist, oppressive or otherwise irredeemably flawed.

It's like, why

you got to know your history, America?

You got to know your history.

And it's like, why they they hate to hear their history be told.

They hate it.

They hate to hear their history be told.

Anything that talks about the real history of this country, they try to... You know, let's not talk about that.

Let's take this out to these books.

Let's get rid of these history books.

Let's look like, why we gotta talk

about this stuff?

Why we gotta talk about this?

Let's talk about that.

Hmm?

Let's talk about that.

So it was a year long fight, y'all that.

That led us here.

All right.

And we're going to have a conversation.

It just brings up the question of who controls how black history gets told.

In this country.

Who controls how black history gets told?

All right.

So we're going to get into that conversation, y'all.

We talking about Brother Lonnie G. Bunch, the third.

All right, we're going to get in and talk about some of the specific exhibits that has been targeted by name.

And then we're going to go and get into the final trigger for him.

All right.

Then we want to share.

If we got time, we'll see what it means for the museum itself.

But the bigger question is who controls how black history gets told.

All right.

Don't go anywhere, y'all.

When we come back, we'll continue this conversation right here on the award winning one on one, seven to true.

What up y'all welcome back welcome back to the award-winning one-on-one seven of truth live from the American family and sure studios It's your boy Ray nitty holding it down man on the extended lunch break the grapevine man.

We talking about brother Lonnie bunch man recently resigned All right from the Smithsonian

Yeah, we going to that MPS We going to that MPS mean to that might actually be perfect we going to that MPS meaning to All right But we talking about Lonnie as a matter of fact before we get back to Lonnie

We don't go to this NPS thing because I just find it funny that the committee is called the Great Schools Committee.

But the purpose of the committee is to figure out which schools are the worst to shut it down.

I don't understand.

I

don't

understand how we do.

Start with Rufus King.

Y'all know I am with that.

But let's focus on brother Lonnie right here.

All right.

So we're talking about the year long fight.

I thought we had to call it.

So we had to call it a 3 3 2 1 2 10 17 is the number to dial.

So how did it escalate, right?

How did it escalate?

By August 2025, the White House had launched a formal review of exhibits at eight

to Smithsonian Museums, including NMAHC, reviewing exhibit texts, wall labels, websites and educational materials for tone, historical framing and alignment with American ideals with museums required to submit draft exhibition plans within 30 days.

I remember we went to one of those Smithsonian Museums when we was in DC.

Was we in DC?

I think I was in DC.

And it was sudden, you know, exhibits that they just had blocked out that you couldn't even see or they had it all the way just, you can't even get into that exhibit because of the framing.

All right.

Trump escalated personally that same month, posting on Truth Social that museums were too focused.

on how bad slavery was.

Think about that.

Think about that.

How bad slavery was and directing attorneys to review museum content the way his administration had reviewed universities.

A senior Trump aide leading the review, Lindsey Halligan, told Fox News, I think there should be more of an.

Over what?

Oh, vermeses, verma faces.

Man, I'm not playing with that word on how far we've come since slavery.

Specific exhibits targeted by name.

Exhibits flagged or altered included a slave cabin display, an exhibit titled The Battle Over Lynching, a section of the origin of the Ku Klux Klang and a Philadelphia exhibit on the nine enslaved people who lived in George Washington's household while he was president.

They like, no, you can't talk about that.

We don't want people knowing about the nine.

slaves George Washington while he was president.

Can't talk about that.

This is a great nation.

I see you, Meach.

The exhibit installed in 2010 was replaced.

They just got rid of it.

This would be my day, right?

We be so afraid to do things when we get in office, man.

Other other elected officials be so.

And this fool just be doing whatever he want.

Fam.

I mean, we we're afraid to ride past the flock camera.

We.

And you got you got some of them folks just taking them down, turning them back in like take you forgot some.

We so.

Scared to do things when we get in position of power.

because we don't want power to be taken away from us.

Oh, it can't be a nigga with too much power.

They gonna slow us down.

They gonna stop something.

But they be like, man, I got four years to pull this off.

I need to do everything I can right now for me and my peoples.

But when it's up, and I think that's why people be feeling away about Obama.

But it's like,

They won't let Obama do what he needed to do man They won't let him do what he needed to do It's gonna be a whole bunch of you know this man is this man that I Think he could have did more absolutely at least All these executive or that's why I couldn't be president Y'all gonna just have to tell me I can't I mean was like 30 executive orders from truck.

No, I feel like it was more than that

So Obama couldn't put his name

on that one coming right in.

I ain't gonna say he ain't put his name on one.

He might have had some... Maybe we'll do a comparison of executive orders.

They first, whatever, days in office.

We'll do a show dedicated to that.

They first days in office.

How many executive orders did Donald Trump put in?

And how many did... As a matter of fact, we'll do the last four presidents.

We'll do how many Trump put in, how many Biden put in, how many Obama put in, and how many George W. Bush put in.

That's what I'd like to

see.

Right now, 25 since 2025, Trump can put 252.

As I said, I know it's more than 30.

Clinton did.

three three sixty four in the eight year term.

Obama only did two seventy seven in an eight year term in an eight year term.

Now.

Both Trump terms he up to.

Four seventy two.

Oh,

yeah, you know, he go get it in.

He got there as much as by the end of his term.

He might have his money executive orders of Biden and Obama combined.

He still.

Only did 162.

Biden only did 162.

Yeah.

So he already got more than them combined.

And he ain't done yet.

All right.

Trump got more executive orders than all presidents since Richard Nixon.

Yes, even Richard Nixon and he beat out Reagan.

If you did more than Reagan, boy.

But I feel like Trump was definitely he's whatever purpose he was supposed to go in there and play, he playing it.

Whatever he was supposed to disrupt, he's doing it.

Whatever he was supposed to break down, he doing it.

Whatever he was supposed to eradicate everything that they told us to ignore in Project 2025, he doing it found.

So in July, 2026,

Domestic Policy Council report titled, Save an America Story, specifically complained that Benjamin Franklin wasn't celebrated enough and that the framing of colonization and enslavement of Native and Black Americans encourages suspicious resentment and division.

I'm gonna tell you, so this is where things blow me, right?

And I'm sorry.

And I say this in the most respectful manner.

Whenever it comes down to black trauma and black injustice and violence and slavery and the pillaging of black and Native Americans, they always say, oh, we don't need to talk about the number.

But when it comes down to the Holocaust, it's always never forget.

It's always never forget.

Never forget.

And I can respect that, right?

Because why would you want the world to forget and a terrible thing that happened to a people?

Concentration counts, gas massing of people.

You know, not gas massing, gas chambers of people.

What the Nazis did to the... Why would you encourage a nation to forget?

these heinous.

Yeah, so never forget.

But why must we forget ours?

Why must we forget ours?

Don't nobody like to answer that question.

And I don't mean to just bring them into it, but I got to use the examples that I have.

When it comes down to black history and slavery and the pillaging of African villages and raping of slaves and beheadings and hangings and and lynchings and all of these things they always say oh, we don't we don't need to talk about that so much no more It's the wrong ideology But we must never forget

What happened to the Jewish people they must always have the right to defend themselves against any nation Why do we like why can't every Person who has been wronged or exploited or had a genocide committed against them why

Is it everybody?

History said, let's never forget what happened to these people.

Let's never forget what happened to the Jews.

Let's never forget what happened to the Palestinians.

Let's never forget what happened to the Native Americans.

Let's never forget what happened to the Africans.

Let's never forget what happened to the enslaved people in this country.

Why can't that be the overall?

Story why is it never forget for some but not too much of this for the others When we come back, we're gonna talk to Ron on the south side y'all don't go anywhere.

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What up y'all welcome back to the award-winning one-on-one seven the truth.

This is boy Ray Nitty holding it down On the award-winning one-on-one seven man We talking about we just we just free talking today feel like man.

We was talking about Ron Bunchy the third But let's go talk to our cousin Ron cousin Ron from the south side.

How you feeling?

How are you doing?

Thanks for taking my car.

I guess we're on the B side, huh?

Yes, sir.

Yes, sir.

Check this out, man.

I never actually had a car came to come to me and say, why are the black people trying to remember their history?

And why do I want to keep talking about what happened to your ancestors?

Well, because I say that because I know there's anger from them, because we don't want to forget.

And it's a guilt that they don't know where it comes from.

Even though they say I wasn't there, I didn't own anybody, but your ancestors did.

So that history, why would you want to erase that?

Like you said, you mentioned that the other community, the Jewish community and others say, you know, we never want to forget, never forget, right?

But they always seem to forget there was more than just a six million.

There was another 67 million people that died in the Holocaust that they seem to have forgotten.

So that can happen to us too, if we don't

We don't have our children and children remember that this is what happened to the enslaved people.

Even though we have this diaspora thing going on now, but still, the African-American or what do you want to call it, the African-Black, whatever, we... There.

There's no way in the world that Japanese even can remember when they were put into a catnip doing Pearl Harbor.

So we got to forget.

Yeah, we had the most, we had the most, uh, heinous things.

The hangings were just the hangings alone where they used to make them into a festival and yo, yo, they found the members that couldn't come to the hangings.

They would take a piece of the flesh off the, of the victim and send it to the, to the family members across to Kansas or wherever.

Hey, sorry, you wasn't there.

I was there.

You know, you missed it.

They burn three of them.

Come on, man.

You cannot use that.

That is the pain right now.

You and I have never been in chains, but something in our parents said to us, the police, you better watch out.

It's a fear.

It's a fear that somehow we still would look at a Caucasian Jesus over a so-called black Jesus.

It's something that, it's something in us that we think that the, the, the, the Caucasian man's ice is colder.

That's why I, I didn't, I love Martin Luther King in that era, but we lost a lot with, with integration.

We lost like businesses and everything.

And now through the very day, if you get a black business, it's hard for us to get black people to come in because we always want to see something wrong.

So if we can gain some stuff and that we're still sick, even though we never would have been changed.

But like, but, but I just want to say this too, they don't, they don't need to leave it, but left that museum.

They say he was tired of fighting all this stuff.

And I can understand that.

Well, you got what seems to be an immovable evil force.

And you don't have a lot of people picking up swords and arms.

People say that Donald Trump is just talking.

He was just talking when he said, you know, we need to go down there and fight like hell.

And the people down there did it.

And he says, well, you know, we're going to look at 2028 Donald Trump.

They got hats that people say he's just talking.

We got it.

We got to remember that history teaches the future.

And that's what we should.

We should not forget.

Okay.

And let me ask you a personal question.

I hear people saying a lot.

I'm not jumping on you, but we know we have the Hispanic race.

We have a Caucasian race.

We have the Jewish race.

What race is slaves?

I've never seen the slave called race.

If you say you have enslaved people, that is what is property.

That's the way to properly say it.

Because we say, don't slave.

What kind of a slave?

There's no such race as slaves.

So I will wish we just take that off of us and say, be enslaved.

That's more proper.

And thanks for taking my call.

Man, I appreciate that, man.

I appreciate that viewpoint as well.

Say, what race is slave?

I mean, I was a good point.

That's a great point.

That's an amazing point when you think about what we've made slaves like.

It's a it's a category that really represented that he said the enslaved people.

So it says if.

It's.

It's like giving an identity back to because the slaves, right?

It's just like I you remove.

the human aspect from them almost, when you just refer to that as just a slave.

You know, but the enslaved people, it's like, all right, who was these people that

already slept?

We almost accepted that.

Yeah, we did.

We accept so much.

Appreciate Cousin Ron from the South Side, man, calling in with that.

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Everybody else.

is told to never forget.

Everyone's history.

They constantly remind the world that we will never forget the atrocities that happen to our people.

But when it comes down to us, they don't want it in museums no more.

They don't want it in history books no more.

We don't want to talk about it no more.

Racism doesn't exist.

Could you imagine?

If we were saying.

Jewish hate doesn't exist.

We don't see Jewish hate.

Or if we said we don't see Muslim hate.

All hate is wrong, but it's even worse when you are asking people to ignore theirs that they went through.

while asking folks to never forget what you went through.

That's not how you form good allies.

That's not how you form good allies.

I love the poorly educated.

All right, let's go talk to the town, the town on why they treat us.

How are you feeling?

What's going on?

What up, Meach?

What's happening?

Chill it, chill it.

What's happening?

What's happening?

Hey, let me tell y'all this like number one Why they why they treat us like this is because we kind of allow it through our lack of Organization Mm-hmm.

We need to get our we need to get our stuff together for real man If we don't get our stuff together, it's gonna keep on happening see America

America bro, it's the land of the free the home of the brave all that blah blah blah, but most of all it's a business man The first people the first people to came over here or the first white people that came over here.

They was on business They was on some business.

They wanted they wanted to see more land.

They wanted they wanted their um There they wanted their bad people to somewhere else because they was filling up

um england and they're filling up a spain or whatnot like that so they pushed them up they pushed them away and then it went once they got there and they was like oh it's the money to be get got here you know they send the rest of their ships so they like oh this is a good thing going and we got free labor on top of it let's get let's get the money let's get the money now i know i ain't saying plus we're getting those slaves and nothing like that though but if we will get together though

We get together though and be more, be more ruthless in our endeavors like they are.

Cause the Jews bro, they ruthless cause the ARAS bro, they ruthless.

The Sikhs, they ruthless.

What happens?

What, what, what, what, what, what happened because of their ruthlessness?

Well, what happened to the Sikhs when they, when they did that thing on Oak Creek right there though, national news, national news.

What happened?

What happened when the ages got sweaty?

When Joe Biden got in the office, as soon as he got in the office, he signed the anti-hate deal.

And we know about the power of the Jewish community.

And the Jewish community so hard, they don't even want you talking about them in no shape or fashion.

Don't say that we got no money.

Don't say that we don't do this or that.

Just don't even talk about us or we're gonna label you the worst thing.

especially in media.

And I get why y'all parsing y'all words and being real careful with y'all words.

Because if y'all say the wrong thing, they will get you out of there.

You know why?

Because they're organized.

They have people in different places.

So if you say something, maybe the Jew that is listening to you, maybe they'll have no power.

But guess what?

I bet his cousin do.

I bet his brother do.

I bet his mom or his grandpa do.

and they gonna hit up get on the horn and then they gonna get you out of there because it's the power and organization we keep on backbiting each other about stupid stuff about we we talking about um um uh what's dolphin we be talking god rest it dead though and when we be yeah q-fifty and um and dude it's hold on itself and got all the years like a dummy yeah we yeah j-o-t-f damn goofy ass

We talk about that and have a good and be on our social media and that's all you see But then I bet you go on a social media.

I bet you they talking about things that specific to them and them getting up because they ruthless with their endeavors Black people get ruthless with your endeavors.

Don't be mad They know who cares if they don't like you or not long as your brother to the left and your sister to the right of you is all right

Then we can grow and then we can be like we together and get it how we I was supposed to be on like on the Black Panther days or whatever like that though But until then they gonna keep on playing this.

I know I went long man.

I love y'all and that's my Okay, I ain't you know, I'm one Jackie.

I'll be Jackie.

So

all

the time man, I need to go front, you know, but no the main idea is

We need to get together.

We need to start spending our money amongst ourselves, putting our money together on his housing stuff, on his business stuff, on his political stuff.

We need to make it black.

That on black, bro.

Yeah.

That don't just because you bled on black don't mean that you hate on somebody else.

That just meaning I love myself more than I love you.

That don't mean I don't love you.

I just love myself more.

You know absolutely made

me made me appreciate you out of town man shots out to the town We're gonna take a break and

go back.

Yes, sir appreciated love.

We're gonna take a break and come back.

Uh, you made me made me um Look up the definition of ruthless Right because in your mind when you hear ruthless What you think uh, you think it I all I almost

Almost bad throat, right?

So I had to look up the word of ruthless.

So when we come back, y'all, we're going to look into what that word ruthless means.

And what is it saying?

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I'm not surprised.

Prayer 365 Day says, please give the guy to just call to show all facts.

Reginald said Patriots owner Robert Kraft organized a stadium owner boycott because of the artist's viewpoint.

The plot certainly thickens.

R.C.

says, so is he talking about pan Africanism?

I'm going to sit here and just say I'm I'm 100 percent.

well-versed in what pan-Africanism is.

I can't sit here and say that I just know it.

I have

an

idea of it.

But what the town was talking about, he said, we need to be more ruthless.

And I thought ruthless, you know, was like way more negative than...

Let's just go over what ruthless means, right?

Says ruthless means being cruel and not caring if you hurt others to get what you want.

So I was saying, maybe he means diligent, right?

Because diligent means working very hard carefully and not giving up.

So it was like, OK, I was trying to in listening to him talk.

I was trying to get a good understanding of the difference between what is he?

What could he mean by being ruthless versus being diligent?

But the saying whether what is ruthless, right?

It says when someone is truly ruthless, they only care about winning or finishing their task.

They do not let feelings like pity or kindness stop them.

The goal is to win at all costs.

The action, stopping at nothing, even if it means cheating, lying or hurting someone's feeling.

That's kind of what rooflif is saying.

All right.

Um, diligent.

When someone is diligent, they are reliable and put a lot of honest effort into their work.

They pay attention to small details and keep going until the job is done.

Right.

The goal.

is to do a great, honest job, the action, working steadily, checking for mistakes and taking their time.

All right.

So it just brought up a. A thought because we usually say ruthless and I don't even.

I don't know if our community got got it in us to be ruthless.

Because if it was, we would have got ruthless a long time ago.

We would have got ruthless during slavery.

Keeping it a buck.

We would have got ruthless during there.

But what we are is forgiving, loving, accepting.

And I think what.

The town is trying to say, man, we need to be more intentional.

More serious.

More focus.

On the things that matter to our community, whether that means supporting black owned businesses.

Whether that means.

Voting

in a block.

You know, yeah, just think about it.

We 40.

I haven't got a text saying what to do if something was to happen for black people.

I haven't.

We haven't been to a black meeting.

At all.

Come

on.

Yeah, we always ask this question.

What's what's on the black agenda?

What's our black agenda?

Now, I know a few different organizations that have put together their version of the black agenda.

And the funny part is the black agenda is pretty much the same.

Turn up across all communities.

You know what I'm saying?

It's pretty much the same across.

We want pretty much the same thing across all communities.

Better housing, better education, safety, equal opportunity, health care.

That's us asking for it, though, needy.

If we ruthless, we go get it.

But.

Difference is.

Well, if we ruthless, we'll go get it, right?

We got a community right now that we don't even.

Love enough to care about.

We still got we, you know what?

He right, we're ruthless as hell.

We is ruthless because we throw in bags of garbage out the window.

We don't care who we hurt, even if it's our own community.

We we are ruthless It's really

no more on and

we on internet ain't no more code just shooting up everything kids getting hit innocently we are ruthless I guess So I don't know We ruthless for the wrong things we ruthless against the wrong causes Yeah

99 years old got beat found in her house.

Took three hours.

Ruthless.

Have they released the identity of the suspect yet?

Ruthless found Q 50.

What happened?

The dog was ruthless.

And to even see how the Internet looked like they solved the case before the dang on police.

They done found footage of the dudes that stole the cars.

To go on this mission.

So, yeah.

Maybe we are ruthless.

We just being ruthless towards the wrong things.

And maybe ruthless is what got us into this position.

We're ruthless towards our own self.

Our own kind.

We ain't organizing our votes.

We ain't organizing our money.

We ain't organizing our community.

Easy if we just start with our own front doors in our community.

They found him.

Hmm.

Twenty three year old Joseph

Macias.

Loran answered the question for me.

You said the guy who beat up the 90 year old woman was not black.

So I, and it's crazy that we be like, this is the world that we live in, right?

That something like that happens and because of how negative your community is viewed, your only hopes is like, hey, not your only hopes, but there's a thought of like, I hope it wasn't a black person that did

this.

Yeah, you got a $150,000 bond and she ain't getting a dollar of it.

I agree with you, Laurent.

We are not ruthless on the things that we are supposed to be ruthless about.

But once again, we talking about the Smithsonian, the erasing of history.

Those are the things we should be non-negotiable about.

You can't erase our history.

We will show up and vote you out.

I

mean, first off, it's in somebody else's archive.

It is.

But you know what they say, if you show somebody the image of who you want them to be over and over and over and over again, they become that image.

So if we take out the history of like, oh, you know, these are enslaved people or we're once enslaved people, now mentally enslaved people.

And you take out any of.

The images of themselves that showed them kings and queens and successful.

People way back when our story didn't start from slavery and captivity.

Now you just show them this image of all the violence, all of this, all of that.

They just continuously show us these images of ourselves over and over and over again to put it in our music.

Put it in our movies, put it in our... I always had this question.

It's funny to me how people made so much, it's always an uproar, right?

I remember when Get Rich or Die Tryin' came out with 50 Cent.

We was, damn this, I don't know.

People were pissed on the violence in this movie, the violence in this movie, the violence in this movie.

Good fellas, all these other movies that's got violence, gang violence, the soprano, all of these movies, no uproar.

The mob, the mob.

We celebrate them stories.

We put it on pedestals.

But 50 Cent put out a story about his life story and his, oh the gangs, look at their culture, look at this, look at that, look at that.

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I want to talk about.

Do you know, rather?

Do you know who?

Lonnie Bunch is.

Do you know who Lonnie Bunch is?

I want to talk about Lonnie Bunch today.

I'm going to talk about some other things as well today.

We gonna talk about who Lonnie bunch is Just trying to find Who Lonnie bunch is y'all if you don't know if you don't know who he is right and his departure All right his departure

Quick quick history So this is our fact checked and confirmed via the Smithsonian's own official bio NBC news and ABC news all right Lonnie G. Bunch the third became the 14th Secretary of the Smithsonian Institution in June 2019

The first black person and the first professional historian ever deleted He oversees 21 museums 21 libraries the national zoo and numerous research centers All right Before that He was the founding director of the National Museum of African-American history and culture

Which he built from nothing into one of the most visited museums on the National Mall All right We talking about Lonnie bunch y'all y'all not familiar Y'all not familiar we gonna get into why he was important and what does it have to do with Milwaukee?

Because I know y'all like to figure out.

Okay.

How does this tie back?

All right

So we said before he was the founding director of the National Museum of he built from nothing a Project he chronicled in his own book a fool's errand Building the National Museum of African-American history and culture in the age of Bush Obama and Trump That's an error ain't it?

That's an error he spent 38 years

Total at the Smithsonian nearly half his life and received France's highest honor, the Legion of Honor in 2021.

Well decorated, brother.

On Tuesday, September 8th, Bunch announced he'll step down by the end of 2026.

His statement was, I depart with very mixed emotions.

and heartfelt gratitude.

I've spent nearly half of my life working at and being part of the Smithsonian family and what a privilege it has been.

The ABC News directly, he was more pointed about why now.

I have fought for as long as I can.

I love this country and I love the Smithsonian and I will always work to defend our more perfect union.

A person's familiar, a person familiar with the situation told NBC News, there was no pressure from the Smithsonian's own governing board, the Regents, for the bunch for bunch to resign.

This was his own decision and he'd reportedly wanted

He'd wanted to retire full year earlier, but stayed specifically to keep defending the institution from White House pressure.

All right.

So this isn't a scandal forced resignation or a board pushing him out.

It's a man who built the nation's Black History Museum from scratch, deciding the fight has reached a point where he believes stepping aside on his own terms is the right move.

That distinction matters for how you frame how we frame the rest of this hour.

Are y'all familiar with.

Brother Bunch.

Was a year long fight that led us here.

Are we familiar with it?

Smithsonian building.

All these museums, all these hotels, all the hotels, all these libraries.

Zoo.

And I felt like it was pressure.

I felt like it was pressure.

Let's let's let's talk about how it started.

All right.

So in March.

Trump signed an executive order titled.

Restoring truth and sanity.

to American history.

Specifically, naming the National Museum of African American History and Culture and directing that no Smithsonian funding support, what the order called improper ideology.

You see, was we always have this, right?

Attacking our history, attacking our legacy, attacking our.

Places that.

Tales our stories, preserves our history.

Say we ain't funded it no more.

We ain't funded it no more.

They say it's a proper ideology.

I wonder why.

What makes it the improper ideology?

That's a good question.

Somebody asks, is that man related to Ralph K. Bunch?

His eyes, B, U, N, C, H, no E at the end.

So I'm going to say, uh, unless the ear at your end was a typo.

All right.

So Trump specifically naming the National Museum of African American History and Culture and directing that no Smith, Sony and funding support what the order called improper ideology.

The order's core argument is that the American culture institutions has engaged in a. Concerted and widespread effort to rewrite our nation's history, replacing objective, objective facts with a distorted narrative driven by ideology.

And that the nation's history was being reconstructed.

as inherently racist, sexist, oppressive or otherwise irredeemably flawed.

It's like, why?

Why?

You got to know your history, America.

You got to know your history.

And it's like, why are they?

They hate to hear their history be told.

They hate it.

They hate to hear their history be told.

Anything that talks about the real history of this country, they try to... You know, let's not talk about that.

Let's take this out to these books.

Let's get rid of these history books.

Let's look like, why we gotta talk about this stuff?

Why we gotta talk about this?

Let's talk about that.

Hmm?

Let's talk about that.

So it was a year long fight, y'all that.

That led us here.

All right.

And we're going to have a conversation.

It just brings up the question of who controls how black history gets told.

In this country.

Who controls how black history gets told?

All right, so we're going to get into that conversation, y'all.

We talking about Brother Lonnie G. Bunch, the third.

All right, we're going to get in and talk about some of the specific exhibits that has been targeted by name.

And then we're going to go and get into the final trigger for him.

All right.

Then we want to share.

If we got time, we'll see what it means for the museum itself.

But the bigger question is who controls how black history gets told.

All right.

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What up y'all welcome back welcome back to the award-winning one-on-one seven of truth live from the American family and sure studios It's your boy Ray nitty holding it down man on the extended lunch break the grapevine man.

We talking about brother Lonnie bunch man recently resigned All right from the Smithsonian

Yeah, we going to that MPS We going to that MPS mean to that might actually be perfect we going to that MPS meaning to All right But we talking about Lonnie as a matter of fact before we get back to Lonnie

We don't go to this NPS thing because I just find it funny that the committee is called the Great Schools Committee.

But the purpose of the committee is to figure out which schools are the worst to shut it down.

I don't understand.

I

don't

understand how we do.

Start with Rufus King.

Y'all know I am with that.

But let's focus on brother Lonnie right here.

All right.

So we're talking about the year-long fight.

I thought we had a caller.

I thought we had a caller.

833-212-1017 is the number to dial.

So, how did it escalate, right?

How did it escalate?

By August 2025, the White House had launched a formal review of exhibits at 8.

to Smithsonian Museums, including NMAHC, reviewing exhibit texts, wall labels, websites and educational materials for tone, historical framing and alignment with American ideals with museums required to submit draft exhibition plans within 30 days.

I remember we went to one of those Smithsonian Museums when we was in DC.

Was we in DC?

I think I was in DC.

And it was sudden, you know, exhibits that they just had blocked out that you couldn't even see, or they had it all the way just, you can't even get into that exhibit because of the framing.

All right.

Trump escalated personally that same month, posting on Truth Social that museums were too focused

on how bad slavery was.

Think about that.

Think about that.

How bad slavery was and directing attorneys to review museum content the way his administration had reviewed universities.

A senior Trump aide leading the review, Lindsey Halligan, told Fox News, I think there should be more of an.

Over what?

Oh, vermeses, verma faces.

Man, I'm not playing with that word on how far we've come since slavery.

Specific exhibits targeted by name.

Exhibits flagged or altered included a slave cabin display, an exhibit titled The Battle Over Lynching, a section of the origins of the Ku Klux Klang and a Philadelphia exhibit on the nine enslaved people who lived in George Washington's household while he was president.

They're like, no, you can't talk about that.

We don't want people knowing about the nine.

slaves George Washington had while he was president.

Can't talk about that.

This is a great nation.

I see you meet.

The exhibit installed in 2010 was replaced.

They just got rid of it.

This would be my day, right?

We'd be so afraid to do things when we get in office, man.

Other elected officials, this fool would just be doing whatever he want, fam.

I mean, we're afraid to ride past the flock camera.

And you got some of them folks just taking them down, turning them back in like, you forgot some.

We so scared to do things when we get in position of power.

because we don't want power to be taken away from us.

Oh, it can't be a nigga with too much power.

They gonna slow us down.

They gonna stop some.

But they be like, man, I got four years to pull this off.

I need to do everything I can right now for me and my peoples.

But when it's up, and I think that's why people be feeling away about Obama.

But it's like,

They won't let Obama do what he needed to do man They won't let him do what he needed to do It's gonna be a whole bunch of you know this man is this man that I Think he could have did more absolutely at least All these executive or that's why I couldn't be president Y'all gonna just have to tell me I can't I mean was like 30 executive

orders from Trump.

No, I feel like it was more than that

So Obama couldn't put his name on that one coming right in.

I ain't gonna say he ain't put his name on one.

He might have had some.

Maybe we'll do a comparison of executive orders.

They first, whatever, days in office.

We'll do a show dedicated to that.

They first days in office.

How many executive orders did Donald Trump put in?

And how many did... As a matter of fact, we'll do the last four presidents.

We'll do how many Trump put in, how many Biden put in, how many Obama put in, and how many George W. Bush put in.

That's what I'd like to

see.

Right now, 25, since 2025, Trump didn't put 252.

As I said, I know it's more than 30.

Clinton did.

three three sixty four in the eight year term.

Obama only did two seventy seven in an eight year term in an eight year term.

Now.

Both Trump terms he up to.

Four seventy two.

Oh, yeah, you know,

he go get it in.

He got there as much as by the end of his term.

He might have his money executive orders of Biden and Obama combined.

He still only did 162.

Biden only did 162.

Yeah.

So he already got more than them combined.

And he ain't done yet.

All right.

Trump got more executive orders than all presidents since Richard Nixon.

Yes, even Richard Nixon and he beat out Reagan.

If you did more than Reagan, boy, but I feel like Trump was definitely he's whatever purpose he was supposed to go in there and play, he playing it.

Whatever he was supposed to disrupt, he's doing it.

Whatever he was supposed to break down, he doing it.

Whatever he was supposed to eradicate everything that they told us to ignore in Project 2025, he doing it found.

So in July, 2026,

Domestic Policy Council report titled, Save an America Story, specifically complained that Benjamin Franklin wasn't celebrated enough and that the framing of colonization and enslavement of Native and Black Americans encourages suspicious resentment and division.

I'm gonna tell you, so this is where things blow me, right?

And I'm sorry, and I say this in the most respectful manner.

Whenever it comes down to black trauma and black injustice and violence and slavery and the pillaging of black and Native Americans, they always say, oh, we don't need to talk about it anymore.

But when it comes down to the Holocaust, it's always never forget.

It's always never forget.

Never forget.

And I can respect that, right?

Because why would you want the world to forget and a terrible thing that happened to a people?

Concentration counts, gas massing of people.

You know, not gas massing, gas chambers of people.

What the Nazis did to the... Why would you encourage a nation to forget?

these heinous.

Yeah, so never forget.

But why must we forget ours?

Why must we forget ours?

Don't nobody like to answer that question.

And I don't mean to just bring them into it, but I got to use the examples that I have.

When it comes down to black history and slavery and the pillaging of African villages and raping of slaves and beheadings and hangings and and lynchings and all of these things they always say, oh, we don't we don't need to talk about that so much no more It's the wrong ideology But we must never forget

What happened to the Jewish people they must always have the right to defend themselves against any nation Why do we like why can't every Person who has been wronged or exploited or had a genocide committed against them why

Is it everybody?

History said, let's never forget what happened to these people.

Let's never forget what happened to the Jews.

Let's never forget what happened to the Palestinians.

Let's never forget what happened to the Native Americans.

Let's never forget what happened to the Africans.

Let's never forget what happened to the enslaved people in this country.

Why can't that be the overall?

Story why is it never forget for some but not too much of this for the others When we come back, we're gonna talk to Ron on the south side y'all don't go anywhere.

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Welcome back to the award-winning 1017, the truth.

This is Boy Ray Nitty, holding it down on the award-winning 1017, man.

We just free talking today, you feel like, man.

We was talking about Ron Bunchy, the third.

But let's go talk to our cousin, Ron.

Cousin Ron from the South Side, how you feeling?

How are you doing?

Thanks for taking my call.

I guess we're on the B side, huh?

Yes, sir.

Yes, sir.

Check this out, man.

I mean, I've never actually had a car came to come to me and say, why are the black people trying to remember their history?

And why do I want to keep talking about what happened to your ancestors?

Well, because I say that because I know this is anger from them, because we don't want to forget.

And it's a guilt that they don't know where it comes from.

Even though they say I wasn't there, I didn't own anybody, but your ancestors did.

So that history, why would you want to erase that?

Like you said, you mentioned that the other community, the Jewish community and others say, you know, we never want to forget, never forget, right?

But they

always seem to forget there was more than just a six million.

There was another 67 million people that died in the Holocaust that they seem to have forgotten.

So that can happen to us too, if we don't

We don't, we don't have our children and children remember that this is what happened to the enslaved people.

Even though we have this diaspora thing going on now, but still the African-American or what do you want to call the African black, whatever.

There, there's no way in the world that Japanese even can remember when they was put into the captain is doing Pearl Harbor.

So we got to forget.

Yeah,

we had the most, we had the most, uh, heinous things.

The hangings were just the hangings alone where they used to make them into a festival and yo, yo, they found the members that couldn't come to the hanging.

They would take a piece of the flesh off the, of the victim and send it to the, to the family members across to Kansas or wherever.

Hey, sorry, you wasn't there.

I was there.

You know, you missed it.

They burned three of them.

Come on, man.

You cannot use that.

That is the pain right now.

You and I have never been in chains, but something in our parents said to us to the police, you better watch out.

It's a fear.

It's a fear that somehow we still will look at a Caucasian Jesus over a so-called black Jesus.

It's something that, it's something in us that we think that the Caucasian man's eyes is colder.

That's why I didn't.

I love Martin Luther King in that era, but we lost a lot with integration.

We lost white businesses and everything.

And now through the very day, if you get a black business, it's hard for us to get black people to come in because we always want to see something wrong.

So if we ingrain some stuff in there, we're still sick, even though we never would have been changed.

But I just want to say this too, that doesn't have to leave a bunch, left that museum.

They say he was tired of fighting all that stuff.

And I can understand that.

You got what seems to be an immovable evil force.

And you don't have a lot of people picking up swords and arms.

People say that Donald Trump is just talking.

He was just talking when he said, you know, we need to go down there and fight like hell.

And then people went down there and did it.

They told us and he said, well, you know, we're going to look at 2028 Donald Trump.

They got hats and people say he's just talking.

We got it.

We got to remember that history teaches the future.

And that's what we should.

We should not forget.

Okay.

And let me ask you a personal question.

I hear people saying a lot.

I'm not jumping on you, but we know we have the Hispanic race.

We have a Caucasian race.

We have the Jewish race.

What what racist slaves?

I've never seen the slave called race.

If you say you have enslaved people, that is what is property.

That's the way to properly say it.

Because you say, don't slave.

What kind of a slave?

There's no such race as slaves.

So I will wish we just take that off of us and say, be enslaved.

That's more proper.

And thanks for taking my call.

Man, I appreciate that, man.

I appreciate that viewpoint as well.

Say, what race is slave?

I mean, I was a good point.

That's a great point.

That's an amazing point when you think about it.

We've made slaves like.

It's a it's a category that really represented that he said the enslaved people.

So it says if.

It's.

It's like giving an identity back to because the slaves, right?

It's just like I you remove.

the human aspect from them almost, when you just refer to that as just a slave.

You know, but the enslaved people, it's like, all right, who was these people?

That

already said.

We almost accepted that.

Yeah, we did.

We accept so much.

Appreciate Cousin Ron from the South Side, man, calling in with that.

833-212-1017 is the number to dial.

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Everybody else.

is told to never forget.

Everyone's history, they constantly remind the world that we will never forget the atrocities that happen to our people.

But when it comes down to us, they don't want it in museums no more.

They don't want it in history books no more.

We don't want to talk about it no more.

Racism doesn't exist.

Could you imagine?

If we were saying.

Jewish hate doesn't exist.

We don't see Jewish hate.

Or if we said we don't see Muslim hate.

All hate is wrong, but it's even worse when you are asking people to ignore theirs that they went through.

while asking folks to never forget what you went through.

That's not how you form good allies.

That's not how you form good allies.

I love the poorly educated.

All right, let's go talk to the town, the town on why they treat us.

How are you feeling?

What's going on?

What's happening?

Was having it was having it.

Hey, let me tell y'all this like on number one Why they why they treat us like this is because we kind of allow it through our lack of Organization Mm-hmm.

We need to get our we need to get our stuff together for real man If we don't get our stuff together, it's gonna keep on happening see America

America bro, it's the land of the free the home of the brave all that blah blah blah, but most of all it's a business man The first people the first people to came over here or the first white people that came over here.

They was on business They was on some business.

They wanted they wanted to see more land.

They wanted they wanted their um There they wanted their bad people to somewhere else because they was filling up

um england and they're filling up a spain or whatnot like that so they pushed them up they pushed them away and then it went once they got there and they was like oh it's the money to be got here you know they send the rest of their ships so they like oh this is a good thing going and we got free labor on top of it let's get let's get the money let's get the money now i know i ain't saying for us to get no slaves and nothing like that though but if we will get together though