Powernomics

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Powernomics

The Grapevine · Tue Sep 1, 2026

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We talking about group economics.

Powernomics.

What would it take?

What would it take, y'all?

All right.

So now we talking about what would it take and how do we organize some concrete steps?

All right.

We talked about the direct deposit shift.

Moving even a modest sustained percentage of the 2.1 trillion in black buying power toward black owned banks and credit unions gives those institutions the capital based the capital base to make more loans to black home buyers and business owners.

This is the single most replicable.

individually actionable step from part three.

Well, we just talked about the actual.

Examples of group economics, the bank black movement, right?

Vertical integration over single storefronts, something Dr. Claude Anderson specific.

critique of most by black efforts is that they stay at the retail level.

All right.

We just rent the store and try to sell the products, but we don't own the products that we sell.

We don't have a pipeline of people producing the products that we sell.

Often we are getting it from some other distributor, most likely somewhere in China.

Asia, Alibaba, I don't know, India.

We buy it in bulk from somebody else and then use somebody else to ship it to us, somebody else to package it, all of these different layers and what vertical integration could look like.

So it's about producing the product.

having the plants that produce the product, the packaging, owning the companies that patch it, package the now produced product, then having distribution, the shipping and handling, making sure our company owns that as well.

The delivery methods, all right?

How does it get?

to the storefront, to the restaurant.

That's what vertical integration would look like.

Without every building, without every building, the supply chain, I just said this, manufacturing, distribution, wholesale.

Behind it, which is where the larger profit margins and real ownership actually sits.

Who are the black wholesalers?

Who are the black wholesale retailers?

I don't know Institutional not just individual organizing these are the steps Institutional not just individual organizing

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Call in with your suggestions on how we dig ourselves out of this dirt hole that we are in.

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Don't get silent now.

Because.

You know, we criticize a lot, but I don't know how active as a community we actually get, which makes me feel like we ain't that upset about the things that's going on.

We just like to speak about it.

Okay.

Institutional, not just individual organizing.

Credit unions, cooperative buying groups.

Just talked about that this morning.

Chow's out to Ms.

LaShondra Vernon.

We gonna be cooking up something.

Cooperative buying groups, pooled investment funds, let a community act with the purchasing and lending power of a single large institution instead of thousands of disconnected individual consumers.

sustained data and accountability.

Dr. Claude Anderson's framework and the National Urban Leagues on 2026 report.

This is this year, y'all.

Both stress tracking real outcomes from loans made, businesses funded, jobs created rather than just spending pledges.

Measuring whether the efforts is actually converting into ownership.

Because we will make a pledge now.

We'll make a pledge to donate something.

The pledge don't ever just, you know, some people just be pledging to pledge.

I pledge allegiance to this flag.

Some people just pledge to pledge.

So here's the tension.

Individual choices.

Individual choices.

Where you bank.

Where you shop.

Where you eat.

Where you decide to buy a home.

Where you decide to put your business.

are real replicable and proven to move millions of dollars in days.

Okay?

But closing a multi-trillion dollar centuries old wealth gap requires the same energy sustained over years.

It's not just gonna happen if we just do it.

One, you know, one viral social media cycle, that's not gonna be enough.

We need a generational

viral cycle.

We need a generational viral cycle.

Okay.

It requires that same energy sustained over years plus institutions big enough to make real loans.

Plus political power to protect what gets

built.

All right.

You see where we going with this?

That's why I always say voting isn't the only thing, but it's part of it.

It's one of the tools.

It's one of the weapons that we have to go to war with.

All right.

We have to protect what we build.

And we protect it with policies.

We just talked about it the other day, the restaurant industry lobbied for the $2.31 sub minimum wage that is permanent.

How?

How is something like that permanent?

Because they organize their money, their industries and their power to get policies in place to protect what they built.

That's how.

We got Mike on the line Mike.

How you doing man?

You live on the grapevine

Yo, how's it going, bro?

I'm doing

well.

I'm doing well Michael Ho from the Trinity Journal.

Oh, man.

Nice to hear

from you.

Celebrating my 50th anniversary.

I've been around for a while.

Congratulations on 50 years.

Thanks, bro.

50 years, and I've seen a lot of changes in Milwaukee.

In the 90s, we called for a Black United Fund that would invest in superstition with Black dollars.

You know, 20 years ago, there were two Black banks in Milwaukee.

Two.

We didn't support them, and they ended up closing.

Well, we defaulted on loans.

You know, I don't want to repeat history.

I agree with you, 1,000%.

We need to address it our own community.

But I've been saying this for so long, you know, I'm sad to get a headache.

Because, you know, I just saw a report that saying Milwaukee is a nice, worse-forming city dependent.

We get the highest black brain drains in the country.

I'm working with a group right now that's trying to create a charter school at North Division because it is the worst performing school in the Midwest.

Unfortunately, you know, our people don't seem to wake up to some of this stuff.

I don't know what to do.

I would like to drag him down in the mud hole.

It's just tough, brother.

I really expected when the Milwaukee Community Journal started in 1976, I thought we would really have, you know, some impact.

But, you know, we taking minor little steps instead of giant steps, you know,

I'm glad you're on there because, you know, the irony is, you are repeating the same stuff that we brought up 20, 30 and 40 years ago.

I hope you have more success than me.

I mean, we've seen some minor progress.

We put some people in office, et cetera.

But we haven't got over the

top.

And I don't understand why.

Nope.

Totally I got a t-shirt right Yeah, I got a t-shirt right now people been looking at I just left the VA people been looking at all day long and it says I Know the problem is you stupid We

can I get that shirt What can I get one of them shirts man, I think you said something that that make a lot of sense because we talked about it on the lunch break as well because

I feel like we're talking about something that even shots out the mic for calling in as well, you know, he said 50 years ago.

I'm talking about the same thing that they were talking about 50 years ago and he prays.

He prays.

We have more success.

And he's talking about 50 years ago, earlier in this very show, we said in 1921, they were talking about what?

The same thing.

And even achieved it, got close to it, but they blew it up, bombed it from the sky, Tulsa, Oklahoma.

We had black, go, go research.

What was Central Park before it was Central Park?

Go research.

What was Central Park before it was Central Park?

It was a black community That they took from us through intimate domain and turned it into Central Park Go in if I'm not mistaken in Georgia Where it used to be a black

City, a black colony.

They flooded it.

Now it's a lake.

We talking about the same things, the same cycles.

Look, this year, even when we are making strides, they destroy it, they take it away.

DEI is, they take, don't go anywhere, y'all.

When we come back.

When we come back.

We gon' keep this conversation going, but we have to go take a break.

It's your boy Ray Nitty holding it down on a great vinyl, your award-winning, one of one's seven to

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We are having a great conversation today, man.

But it seems like it's a conversation that we are constantly having.

We...

constantly had this conversation as a community.

We've seen it in Tulsa.

We've seen it before.

We've seen this over and over again.

We've seen it.

We've seen it.

We've lived it.

And Mike just called and said, man, some of the things that you celebrate in 50 years was at the community journal.

And it's almost.

It's almost sad to hear if I'm being honest There's somebody that want better for their community 50 years ago community journey.

They were talking about the same thing to today And if we talk about 50 years before that Tulsa, Oklahoma if we go before that

The things we was fighting for got destroyed.

The progress we were made got erased, set back further.

We gotta protect what we build in the future.

We can't just build anything no more and think people gonna just leave us alone.

Because that's history has shown us over and over again and it's showing us right now They're like oh y'all been showing up the voting The black community ain't just been sitting down quiet no more no more mailing ballots we restricted mailing ballots in some of these communities now voter ID like every Corner we turn was a barrier

All right.

We got to build our own vertically integrated institutions.

We got to do it.

We have to do it.

And we got to protect it.

We have to protect it and you protect it by elected leaders that will put policies in place to protect your rights your needs and the things that you've built as a community We have to do it Where you bank

where you shop are real replicable and proven to move millions of dollars in days.

But closing a multi trillion dollar centuries old wealth gap requires that same energy sustained over years.

Plus institutions big enough to make real loans, plus political power to protect.

What gets built?

2016 proved the first part with blank back with bank black.

But nobody has yet proven the second and third at scale.

We've yet to do that at scale.

So it's a challenge.

It's a challenge for our truth family.

I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth.

So help me God.

This is my challenge.

So rather than just ending this on, you know, this segment on we got a shot black.

You know.

Let's end it with something attached to it.

Let's put a number on.

Let's get a part of a specific local black owned bank or credit union.

A specific dollar amount.

A specific time frame.

That we going to do some.

I still see the building Columbia Savings and Loans, but it's not Columbia Savings and Loans normal.

And it was Seaway like Seaway Bank for a second.

I think it's not even Seaway no more.

Do we have any?

I got to do the research.

Give me one second.

I got to see.

Do we have any black owned banks still active in Milwaukee?

Got to see it.

So they still are active.

Let's see.

Oh, I don't know why they're trying to say you W credit your QW credit.

You ain't no black on bank.

Columbia Savings and Laws Association.

Founded in 1924 by on arty.

I want to mess up nobody name.

and Wilbur Halyard.

So I'm going to go when I get off, I'll make a call to Columbia Savings alone.

See what they really do.

Don't see what they tell.

So yeah, y'all, we got to make some active efforts.

We got to really organize and actually get something done.

Will we go put some money in Columbia savings along?

I don't even know if I could say that You know FCC and all these other things, you know, it's all these rules that stop you from getting your people to the promised land So we got you know, let me make sure I can legally Say this on the airwaves Because the views and opinions expressed on this show is that of my own and not Of the truth

All right So let's figure out what we gonna do y'all what we gonna do with it How much money will we give when will we give it that's what we gonna do We gonna put together a time dating and give some specific action steps, but before that we gotta do a little research So we can organize it properly then we gonna organize it by

Organizing our votes around this governor's election coming up Then we want to prioritize where we spend our dollars All right We gonna do that We gonna do that and we gonna put some dates on it and we gonna make it happen Okay, and that's what we gonna talk about.

That's how that's how we gonna do it.

We not gonna wait until somebody else

Tells us what to do Because all they gonna do is get in the way Hate on us even more make it even more difficult to get things done When we come back when we come back y'all we gonna get into some local Stuff we want to talk about Milwaukee overhauls its flock camera policy

What does that mean?

What does that mean now?

We want to talk about it.

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Milwaukee Overhauls, it's flock camera policy.

833-212-1017 is the number to dial.

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We want to talk about it.

We want to talk about it Viewing YouTube joining a subscribe and share, please Six changes Straight from the mirror's office.

They was on this tail boy.

It was on your heels Chevy Tagging him Milwaukee, you know, we don't got no shame.

They was tagging that man.

I wish you would Milwaukee overhauls its flock camera policy

Fact check confirmed via Fox six TMJ for WTMJ urban Milwaukee and the marathon public statement announced yesterday August 31st.

All right.

Six changes.

If you're familiar with flock, if you're not familiar with flock, it is basically a tracking system for the slaves.

No, I'm just let me let me just chill.

I'm just playing.

I'm just playing.

But it is a tracking system that they have been using through cameras and it's checking your license plates and basically just surveillance man and people feel like it is an invasion of our privacy and It has been overused All right, but we're gonna talk about some of the six changes straight from the mayor's office I Want to know what y'all think about these changes

How do you feel about flock you full flock or you like flock?

No, I ain't with it All right Access has been restricted to supervisors only Only supervisors now Until earlier this year more than 600 Milwaukee Police Department officers had direct access to the flock database

That's crazy.

That's a lot of cops just doing what they want with kill information and we saw what they was doing with it.

Officers and detectives will now need a supervisor to run a search.

I think that's fair, right?

What if the person abusing it was a supervisor?

What then?

What happens then?

if the person abusing it was a supervisor.

Use limited to part one crimes, homicide, rape, robbery, burglary, et cetera.

Critical missing persons, drug trafficking, organization investigations, and abductions only.

No more open-ended use.

So essentially, homicides, rape, robbery, any crime, missing persons, drug trafficking, and abductions only is what it could be used for.

No more open-ended usage.

Milwaukee will stop sharing flock data with surrounding jurisdictions entirely.

So they were sharing all of this information as well.

The only list for the changes right here, too, though, try to get the rest of the day on changes.

Milwaukee will stop sharing flock data with surrounding jurisdictions.

A new public dashboard will track MPD's use of the system, giving residents visibility they haven't had before.

This is interesting.

What is the dashboard?

Did they share that?

And do they have a way to see if you've been flocked?

And what have you?

You should be able to see if you have been flocked and who flocked you.

Cause I want to know who flocked me if I being flocked.

We should know these things.

What for?

Why are you flocking me office?

Cause a guru who's running flock is what he says.

How many of them got access?

Y'all only looking at who they gave access to.

Come on.

It's chess, not we playing.

They said they gave access now before it was 600.

It's essentially the whole jurisdiction, the whole Milwaukee Public Department.

Now supervisors only is who have access.

And it has to be for a certain type of crime.

Not just open-ended use, but now there will be a public dashboard that will track MPD's use of the system.

Given residents visibility they have never had before.

I think this is at least a good step.

We gotta see if we get Chevy on here to talk about what the flock is going on.

We gotta get on here and talk to Chevy.

You know, I've been, I'ma say this publicly, man.

I was a huge.

Huge critic of Mayor Cavalier Johnson.

Very huge critic of him.

But you know, I had the humble monsters, Jazzy looking at me like, you been not soft enough.

But I'm saying I'm telling the truth, right?

And here's my thing.

Why I gave I'm giving Chevy some grace.

A lot of people don't like to hear it.

And we can say whatever and whatever we say can be true.

But this is what I would say for myself.

One, we know he inherited some BS that Tom Barrett was able to just allow to happen.

And somehow we still continue to act like he's just the Godfather of Milwaukee where really, bro, you the one really ran us into this mess and then dipped and went to Luxembourg and was chilling out there.

So Chevy inherited a lot of mess.

All right, so I give him grace for that and then I give him grace for the fact that even when he could have thrown CWC under the bus the developers under the bus for what was going on He was one of the only people That didn't take the easy route and just blame developers, but he asked for what are we gonna do to hold Companies like master lock accountable he said it publicly along with dr. Potts

So I give him grace for that.

And I also give him grace for as much as I criticized him.

I never once reached out and said, man, how can I help you, bro?

So I had to humble myself.

It's like, all right, because I always say, if I'm going to criticize, I would love to say I at least attempted to provide some sort of solutions.

So on that merit,

I extend grace.

Some people don't like that.

I don't like that.

I get it.

I get it.

We got a black sheriff, a black chief, black county executive, black mayor, Puerto Rican common council president, hella black orders.

What's going on with black Milwaukee?

Then why things ain't getting better for black Milwaukee?

So.

I had to humble myself a little bit and I know people say, oh, it ain't it ain't you ain't the man, ain't you?

But we do have a role that we play as citizens.

We do have a role.

We do have a part to play in making this community better.

We do have a part to play.

That is some of y'all cousins down there on Water Street, disrupting them strippers money from outside of silk.

The little that they was getting.

That is some of your cousins.

And as much as I could defend a whole Milwaukee rap genre, because I know what we took to build that scene up, so I won't just let somebody blatantly tear it all down and lump all the music in as one.

No.

But that doesn't mean we can't have an honest conversation about how we conduct ourselves.

What is our responsibility as community partners?

What is our what is our responsibility to our neighbors?

Do we have?

Responsibility as community partners when we come back We're gonna talk about it a little bit more before Miss Jazz Tyler steps in and taps in Don't go anywhere y'all

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Man, we had a great conversation today, man.

We had an extremely good conversation, actually.

We're closing up talking about the overhauls in the flat camera policy.

Some of the changes that has been made from Guru said, we heard that.

It was an accident, man.

Jazzy came in and scared me, and I forgot to turn the mic off.

It's all good, man.

It's all good.

We're talking about some of the changes that happened.

Actually, that's one of those that was approved by the FCC, actually.

Access restricted to supervisors only.

Until earlier this year, more than 600 NPD officers had direct access to the flock database.

Officers and detectives will now need a supervisor to run the search.

Uh, use limited to part one crimes, homicide, rape, robbery, burglary, et cetera, critical missing persons, drug trafficking, organization investigations, and abductions only.

No more open ended use.

Milwaukee will also stop sharing flock data with surrounding jurisdictions entirely.

I'm like, what was y'all sharing before?

A new public dashboard will track MPD's use of the system given residents visibility they haven't had before.

So now you could try it.

You could see what the heck is going on.

Why now?

because of the misuse problem.

At least three documented misuse cases in Milwaukee alone, two former MPD officers have been criminally charged with misuse and flock access for personal reasons, including one case where an officer was tracked, where an officer tracked a woman he was romantically involved with.

We're not surprised.

We're not surprised.

And I'm sure it's probably more that we just ain't even hearing so far.

You don't give 600 police officers that type of access and just think only two officers looked into somebody.

Mayor Cavalier Johnson's own framing.

I recognize the benefits of the flock camera system.

The technology has also been misused in several notable instances, both locally and nationally.

Compromising the rights of individuals.

Milwaukee currently operates 31 flat cameras city-wide.

Each foot, each photographs the rear of every passing vehicle with images stored for 30 days.

They had the, the case with the lady.

They pulled guns on her.

Got her out of her car on the highway because of some wrong flocking information.

These fools didn't remove her information.

From a situation and then said, Oh, it was Milwaukee's fault.

They that's why we stopped her.

Woman could have got killed.

We've seen how our communities are handled.

We've seen these stories over and over and over again of how.

I mean, the police could get nervous.

And in the blink of an eye.

Would have to determine whether to use lethal force.

So not only has it been misused to stalk, intimidate, pressure, whatever, it has also been mismanaged by not properly doing the right editing, cleansing of data, removing improper information that has been wrongfully flocked.

So now she's suing She's suing as she rightfully said I would love we got to get be ivory on here Sierra, please.

Let's get be ivory on here so we could talk about what the flock is going on We gonna set that up we gonna set that up The controversy Is that this doesn't satisfy everyone right like this isn't enough

The ACLU of Wisconsin.

Amanda has been vocal in local coverage about the organization's ongoing privacy concerns, even with the new restrictions in place.

We're going to have to talk to her too.

On this show, not specifically this show, but on the lunch break show, we have already covered nearly a dozen Wisconsin communities, Eagle Sports Range.

Sheboygan, Dane County, Verona, Manona, Fishburg, Appleton, Oskar, Sturgeon Bay.

They have gone further than Milwaukee and dropped Flock entirely.

They got rid of it.

They ain't just saying, you just can't use it.

They got rid of it, covered the cameras up, said to hell with what the contracts say.

Nationally roughly 200 cities have ended their flock relationships outright Milwaukee is reforming not exiting So I'd like to understand why we just don't exit So our mirrors on words Acknowledge the tension directly you don't just throw the baby out with the bathwater

and not allow the use of technology, but you also work to make sure that there are some restrictions.

We got to get into that.

We're going to have to talk about that a little more.

We're going to need some more information on what that means, what that looks like.

Does limiting access to just supervisors and narrowing the use cases actually fix the trust problem?

Or does the fact that misuse happened at all mean No policy short of removal will fully satisfy residents who've lost confidence in the system and we didn't just lose confidence because They got these flock cameras now.

It was already

I don't know where you've been, but it's always been a little bit of tension.

So could you imagine how that tension heightened after?

You realize that you could just be flocked.

By entire police district.

I wonder if these cameras was up while I was running for the fourth automatic district.

That's how it was following jazz.

You know what let me chill before They gonna be down in city hall like they're on to us.

They know what the flock is going on We've been on to y'all y'all cheapest here We just having fun man we having fun highlighting What goes on

You just average citizens paying taxes.

Sharing the news, controlling the black narrative.

So what I will say is.

Shouts out to Chevy for at least taking some steps, right?

But I think there's more steps that need to be taken.

There's more steps that need to be taken.

Because.

How can I trust that supervisors won't then?

Just become the ones misusing it.

How do you restore trust?

I think it was an interesting call to even bring that technology in.

In a community that already had trust issues.

And.

not to mention trust issues.

Then we have like a failing grade in what the independent investigation turned up for police department and the improvements that they needed to make.

So I don't understand how we give them more access.

It's like, man, finish your vegetables first before you ask for some juice.

But it's been a great, great day y'all.

It's been a great day.

Miss Jazz Tyler is up next with the tap in.

It was a great four hours too.

I'm off be dry by the end of the last segment, man.

We had a good day y'all.

We talked about all types of things.

We talked about jailing Brown, exposing the NBA, staring players to not invest in the communities they came from.

Then we talked about 10 years today.

Kaepernick took a knee based off of what somebody else told him to do, to show respect.

And he got blackball for it.

This is America.

We talked about overhauling these flock cameras.

We also talked about kangaroos and oxtails.

Y'all got to chill out.

And then we also talked about powernomics, group economics.

So tomorrow when we come back, we're gonna go a little bit further y'all.

I had a good time Make sure y'all stick around for jazz Tyler the grapevine Not the grapevine.

I'm super child.

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We had an amazing conversation the last couple hours on the lunch break with Shannon and myself was talking about you know

Artists being stared away from investing in a community and so forth, right?

And then it's a two-part conversation for me.

It's a two-part conversation for me because I feel like part of us, you know, we got to have a conversation amongst ourselves as well.

So we want to get into that.

We want to get into that, man.

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Today, today, today, y'all.

While I'm holding it down on this grapevine, I wanted us to talk about our money.

I wanted us to talk about our money.

All right.

Where our money actually goes?

How much money we represent?

in the community.

Things like that, y'all.

Then we also got some some topics that we didn't get to talk about actually on the lunch break.

So I want to.

I want to get into that.

I want to get into that on the lunch break as well.

I mean, not on the lunch break on the grapevine today as well, because it was some very important.

topics that we didn't get to.

We talked about Kaepernick 10 years.

We also wanted to talk about serial killer shrines.

I don't know if we'll talk about that on this one.

We'll talk about that on this one.

But Milwaukee definitely overhauls its flock camera policy.

So we want to talk about that.

We want to talk about what some of those changes were with some of the controversies were and things like that.

Right.

Then we want to look at Milwaukee crime headed in to the close of quarter three.

Then we're going to give you all a brief update on the governor's race.

And what are we doing to prepare our kids for what's next?

What are we doing to prepare the future?

What are we doing?

Are we doing enough?

Are we just sitting around thinking everything is going to be smooth?

Are we doing enough?

We want to talk about where our black dollar actually goes.

All right?

We want to talk about where we spend our money as we have people staring athletes to not invest.

in our communities, not put dollars into our communities, not go back to the places that they came from to help change the trajectory.

So we want to dive into that.

All right.

We want to talk about that.

Then we also want to talk about Power Nomics.

I don't know if anybody's familiar with that book.

It's an actual book called Power Nomics.

I have yet to finish reading it.

But I do have the book and I think everybody should check out the book.

So I want us to get into power andomics.

What it actually argues by is Dr. Claude Anderson.

All right.

Want to talk about that.

Then we want to talk about.

Group economics.

Group economics.

Do we care about it?

Do we care about it?

Then what it would actually take?

What would it take?

And how would we organize?

How do we organize our money our minds our dollars our votes?

How do we get on the same page?

How do we get on the same page when I think we ain't even like we not even reading the same books 8 3 3 2 1 2 10 17 we're gonna take our time with this.

This is gonna be a slow burn It's gonna be a slow burn this one was rolled real nice probably not acceptable but

I want y'all to think about these things.

I want us to think about it.

What does it mean?

What does group economics mean to you?

What does power economics mean to you?

Do you care about it?

Do you care about it?

I don't know if we do.

I don't know if we do.

We should.

We should care about it.

Because black buying power is projected at roughly 2.1 trillion dollars in 2026.

Up from 1.6 trillion in 2021.

Heading towards 3 million by 2030.

What are we doing with that buying power?

What are we being intentional about?

8 3 3 2 1 2 10 17 is the number to die.

Let's talk about it.

They shutting down businesses and saying it's due to violence and, you know, we know, we know who they talking about, but we got to have a conversation about it because just as I could be loud and defend that.

The garage bar is wrong for banning all.

local rap.

That's a different conversation.

That's a different conversation.

From the one that we need to have about our community.

Because it wasn't about going to garage.

Never been.

Zero interest.

Sounds like they're permanently closed now, too.

From what I hear.

But it was about our collective power as a music scene, a community, a city that has so much influence on the identity of this city.

So much and not just our community multiple communities as well.

Go look at all them older white men dancing to low-end music on tiktok Go look at it.

I'm like, hey, what's the better come on now?

We have amazing influence, but what are we doing with it?

And I know it's a

It's a very loaded question, right?

Shouts out to Felix.

Great afternoon.

Hit us up on YouTube if you can't listen in your cars.

Or if you got to get out your car and you want to stay continued, stay connected to the conversation, pull it up on YouTube.

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All right.

So that's what we talking about today, right?

Our power.

Where our money actually goes Powernomics group economics What would it actually take and how do we organize How do we get back to what the Panthers did back in the day How do we get back to well not get back to because they still have it The nation

Had their newspaper the way the the food programs.

How do we get back to it?

But when we get back y'all don't go anywhere We will dive right into this conversation on the award-winning one-on-one seven of truth.

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What up?

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Good afternoon.

Good afternoon.

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On the award-winning 1017, The Truth Live from the American Family Assurance Studios.

How y'all feeling?

Today we talking about our money, man, where it actually goes.

Group economics, power-nomics.

What can we do as a community, man?

With all this influence, with all this buying power.

But we just distract it.

We buying stupid things, wasteful spending, flexing for the ground, flexing for the clout, overconsumption.

We want to talk about it.

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So we're going to get right into it and a lot of these things are fact checked.

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Buying power figures.

Confirmed via the Sea League Center for Economic Growth, University of Georgia and Nielsen slash Nielsen IQ, the two primary research sources.

This data comes from industry wide.

All right.

Talking about the money, y'all.

Black buying power in the US, like we said, projected roughly around 2.1 trillion.

I was up from one point six trillion in twenty twenty one.

On pace towards two point five to three trillion by 2030.

Black consumers make up about 14 percent of the US population.

But.

Historically.

account for roughly 9% of total consumer spending.

Real economic weight, even while trailing population share.

Think about that.

Our.

Consumer.

spending Our total spending is I'm gonna just read it again as Consumers we make up 14% of the US Population we just make up 14% of the population Historically we account for 9% of total of the consumer spending

We spending that we spending it man All right Real economic weight y'all we got that back Even while trailing in population share And it's only gonna go up

Spending is growing faster than the general populations, roughly 5% annual growth in black consumer spending versus 3% overall according to recent industry tracking.

Our spending habits is growing faster than our population.

Think about that.

Where does it go to?

Some some areas in where this spending goes to.

They say groceries, health, wellness, beauty, travel, saving slash investing are the five categories that National Urban Leagues 2026 State of Black America report specifically measured.

as areas of major black consumer influence.

Black shoppers account for a notably high share of U.S.

luxury spending and are disproportionately early adapters across tech, entertainment and fashion.

Retailers openly track black consumers as trendsetters

Not just a market segment.

All right.

Streaming media consumption is real measurable

data.

Streaming media consumption is a real measurable area of outsized.

Influenced black audiences average significantly more weekly media hours than the general population and streaming now makes up nearly half of total TV viewing time in black households.

All right.

The real gap.

A small share.

Of two point one trillion dollar reaching black owned businesses.

It's a small share of this two point one trillion dollars that we represent.

is only reaching black businesses.

A small percent.

They say our dollar doesn't stay in our community very long.

And we don't need no... I don't think we need no data to...

to prove that.

Look at who owns the stores in our community.

You don't need no data to see what's right in front of you.

Go to the gas station.

Go to your corner store.

Go to the grocery store.

Go to the liquor store.

Go to the beauty store.

Go to the dollar store.

Go to any store.

Go to a liquor store.

Go to a restaurant.

Do you prioritize going to black owned businesses?

Do you prioritize where you spend your 2.1 trillion dollars in buying power?

I want to know.

Do you prioritize it?

I try to.

We want to get into power-nomics and what it actually argues, right?

And power-nomics is a book I'm currently reading.

I need to get through it.

I'm nowhere near through this book.

But I did see a lot of documentaries on him I saw when he was on the breakfast club his interview he did on there and his name is dr. Claude Anderson All right former assistant secretary of commerce under president Carter Someone who's actually built vertically vertically integrated black owned businesses himself published

The Power Nomics, the national plan to empower Black America laying out the framework.

We should, you should get this book.

His core argument, his core argument, John, is the wealth gap isn't an accident or a motivation problem.

We talking about Power Nomics.

is the result of what he calls racial monopolies where systems, we know the systems, what's the systems y'all?

The education system, the law system, the media system, the finance system, all right?

We noticed, we've talked about these things before.

But for some reason it don't stick with us.

But these racial monopolies where systems were deliberately structured to keep control and capital concentrated outside of black communities.

Shout out to the chat.

All one.

Says I go out my way to spend black or where blacks receive a check.

I appreciate that He often cited stat Americans owned about half of 1% of the nation's wealth in 1865

Black Americans.

Black Americans owned about half of the one half of one percent.

Of the nation's wealth in 1865.

That share is barely different today.

OK.

When we come back.

We gon' get back into some more of this Power Nomics and Dr. Claude Anderson and what it looks like.

But don't go anywhere, y'all.

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We talking about power-nomics, y'all.

We talking about power-nomics.

Concept by Dr. Claude Anderson.

He just joined in us.

He was a former assistant secretary of commerce under President Carter.

And he was talking about.

Our power nomics.

Right.

And what he was calling for.

His core argument, I'll restate this, is that the wealth gap isn't an accident or a motivation problem.

It's the result of what he calls racial monopolies, where systems were deliberately structured to keep control and capital concentrated outside of black communities.

Black Americans owned about half of 1%.

of the nation's wealth in 1865.

And that share is barely different today.

His idea, right?

His central strategic idea is group economics, which we'll get into a little later.

A 3 3 2 1 2 10 17 is the number to die.

We would love you to be a part of this conversation.

Group economics, power-nomics, organizing our money, our minds, our votes.

His strategic idea is group economics pooling our money, our labor, institutional power collectively rather than relying purely on individual advancement.

Let's bring it together.

We always say we are greater together.

It's a reason why separation has been such a huge tactic used against our community.

Create the vision between a man and a woman, a black man and a black woman.

The black father and the black son, the black mother and the black daughter.

Generational division.

Between the black grandparents and the black grandkids.

Constant division.

Group economics, if somebody is constantly using a tactic.

To keep us divided and arguing amongst ourselves.

in all corners of our community.

I just named it man against woman, mother against daughter, father against son, children rebelling against parents.

It's gotta mean we...

We way more powerful together right if we was on the same page Now I'm no you know, I didn't work under Carter.

I'm just somebody thinking I Would like to say I'm using common sense is what I would like to say

But group economics, he's saying pool our money, labor, institutional power collectively rather than relying purely on individual advancement.

Money without ownership is a fleeting tool.

We got to own.

We got to own.

What good is money if it's not attached to anything that we own?

Let me go get to Christ.

Wealth is anchored in assets, institutions, and control.

All right?

So his plan calls for vertically integrated black-owned industries, black-owned industries, owning a meaning.

owning a product from raw material.

All right.

To retail shelf.

Not just us.

Having a storefront.

Vertically integrated black owned industries.

owning a product from raw material to retail shelf, not just the storefront.

Reform and education toward entrepreneurship and trade skills.

Starting in middle school.

Remember we started, we had some of these programs in middle school, they got rid of them.

Wonder why?

Building, guess what?

Independent black owned media to control the community's own narrative.

What are we doing here at the truth?

Building our own media, controlling our narrative.

Making sure we got a voice in black Milwaukee.

Because why is the worst place to raise black families while being one of the most amazing places to raise white ones?

Still waiting for somebody to address that All right Building independent black owned media to control the community's own narrative and using the black voting block As leverage

for concrete policy wins, not just symbolic representation.

OK.

And it's been people pushing back against.

Powernomic style strategies, you know, they raise the question.

Here's the question.

This is a pushback.

This was a pushback.

Can black owned businesses.

And institutions actually scale and compete without either broader systemic reform, meaning housing, lending, education, funding, or serious external capital.

Do we have the outside capital?

Or does group economics alone ask a historically undercapitalized community?

to out save its way out of the wealth gap and build over centuries.

That was built over centuries.

That's what people push about.

Do we got the capital to do it?

We definitely got the buying power to do it.

If we just started with that, prioritize where we spent our money, we'd be able to, just my opinion.

He has an arguing shot black and then that closes the gap.

All right.

He's arguing for ownership and institutions.

Not just consumer behavior, not just how we spending this, we buying that, we doing it, we know.

It's a meaningfully bigger and harder ass than a boycott or buying pledge and it's worth being precise about.

that distinction.

From.

Seed to table.

From textile to storefront.

I reference Judge Lena Taylor a lot.

Because she talked about a lot of these things.

She.

was very adamant about us getting involved into the hemp industry.

All the different products.

That hemp provided.

Where Wisconsin used to lead the nation.

And being one of the largest hemp producers.

In the nation and the textile products that came from hemp.

We got all this farm land out here.

How do we get back to that?

How do we get back to lead in the nation, but also having a seat at the table and not just being on the menu?

I applied for a hemp license.

I got awarded a hemp growing and processing license.

Because I wanted to participate.

Other communities always get in line and we end up being in the back because we don't have the knowledge or the access or the care to go do the research into what it would take for us to even be at the table.

So yeah.

We went and applied for one.

A hemp process in a grown license when it was in.

the beta stages, the test stages.

So when they legalize cannabis, they'd be like, oh, this person was part of our pilot program.

So we would we would hope that we would have the opportunity to participate when the legalization of cannabis does happen.

We would hope.

But what would that look like?

If black people dominated the cannabis industry, that it would eventually come in Wisconsin.

It would just be late.

It'll be late.

But we'll get to that when we give back y'all.

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It's your boy Ray Nitty holding it down on the grapevine on the award-winning 10170 Truth.

What up y'all Welcome back welcome back to the grapevine on your award-winning one-on-one seven the truth live from the American Family Assurance Studios.

It's your boy Ray Nitty holding it down.

I almost hit that note man.

I almost hit that note But I ain't want no problems I ain't want no problems man a 33212 1017 is the number to dial

We talking about group economics, power economics, what it looks like.

Our black dollar, man.

So we want to talk about some group economics that actually happened.

Fact checked and confirmed via Forbes, the independent banker, ICBA, and base state banners.

2016 covers.

Bank black.

The clearest recent case study.

All right.

This was some of our group economics efforts.

July, 2016, rapper and activist Killer Mike.

I think people feel a little way about killing Mike right now, too.

Despite all of that, talk about the efforts to organize Black dollar.

Killer Mike launched the bank black challenge.

urging people to deposit at least $100 into a black owned bank.

In the first five days, 8,000 people opened accounts at Atlanta Citizens Trust Bank alone.

One United Bank, the largest black owned bank in the country, took in 10 million in new deposits in under a month during the same campaign.

and has since financed nearly one billion in loans to moderate and low income communities.

One united president, Terry Williams, put the math simply.

If one million people opened a hundred dollar savings account in a black owned bank, we would have, we would move one million.

That's real economic power.

A concrete, repeatable model, repeatable model.

Not an abstraction If one Pete one million people opened a hundred dollar savings account in a black owned bank All right would move one million Somewhere some feels wrong with that number

But cool Those are some of the efforts I don't Do even could Columbia savings and loans they still around in Milwaukee.

I know we had a Black bank.

Do you bank with a black bank?

If so, which black bank do you bank with?

I'm gonna look into this.

I need to put some money into a blank bank a black

bank.

Some online ones anybody could suggest.

Let me know.

I got to do better at that.

So here's a scale problem, honestly stated.

There are roughly 20 to 44 black owned banks and credit unions in the entire country.

It's very little.

Depending how you count.

Combined holding and small fraction of the assets of a single large regional bank, not one has yet crossed 1 billion in total assets.

One United, the largest, sits around 650 million.

Set against 2.1 trillion

in total black buying power, even a fully successful black bank style campaign bank black style campaign moves a rounding errors worth of that total.

So it's proof the strategy works.

At a household level, but also proof of just how much bigger organized efforts.

would need to be to meaningfully shift the larger picture.

A deeper historical model, we've talked about it over and over again on our show.

We even had my nephew who's working with justice for Greenwood.

Tulsa's Greenwood District, Black Wall Street, we know about it.

In the early 1900s, it is the most cited historical proof of the concept.

Fully self-contained black economic ecosystem from banks to hotels to theaters, doctor's offices, grocery stores, lawyers, dentists, where dollars circulated intentionally by simple necessity because we owned the businesses, we owned the buildings.

before it was destroyed.

Before they blew it up, fire bombed it, bombed it from the sky, dropped the bombs on black communities.

That was in the 1921 Tulsa race massacre.

This is documented, a nation's history against a people that constantly are being told to pull yourself up by the boots.

but not too hot because I'll blow your ass up.

1921 wasn't the start of when we started to try to pull ourselves up out of boots.

It seems like it's a pattern that we have to constantly revisit, constantly give lessons in today's world.

When people complain and say oh, we don't do enough to help ourselves and then we have a constant historical pattern or when we do help ourselves the efforts the evil tactics That are used to destroy what we've built How conveniently we forget that part How conveniently do we

constantly forget that part.

So excuse me if the community is tired of having to start over.

Not making excuses, I'm just saying.

Could you imagine?

Every time you did something and got a little further for your people, you mind your business.

You went and did it on your own, but people keep blowing your stuff up.

knocking it down.

Making it harder for you to receive the American dream and then tell you try harder.

They tell you to try harder.

So the lesson often drawn from the Greenwood isn't just that it like it can work.

is that concentrated black wealth has historically drawn violent backlash.

We're talking about 1921.

Earlier today, we were talking about just yesterday, Jalen Brown, who was just talking about it.

In today's world, got his own money, $230 million worth, and they're staring players and athletes from giving back to their communities.

Okay.

So it could work.

We've seen it work, but let's be honest and talk about that concentrated black wealth has historically drawn violent backlash.

Meaning any modern version of this conversation has to grapple

with the protection and political power, not just economics alone.

And that's what I've been trying to say.

That's what I've been trying to say for months.

For months.

For months.

Bank Black.

Proves the organizing model works at a grassroots level Okay Thousands of people moved real money in days y'all in days So my question for y'all is what would it take to make that a sustained habit Rather than a one-time viral moment

tied to the new cycle or the social media buzz or the clout.

What do we got to do to make that law?

It can't just feel good on social media for that moment.

It's got to be a habit.

It's got to be the law.

It's got to be the new way of life of us prioritizing what we doing with our money.

And it's going so far that we have been programmed to believe and not even trust each other enough that we would do something like that.

All these barriers, all these things to divide us.

When we come back, we're going to talk about on the other side of the second hour what it would actually take and how do we organize, all right?

Concrete steps, not just slogans.

All right?

Then we're gonna get into some more things.

But don't go anywhere, y'all.

This is your boy Ray Nitty holding it down on the grapevine when the award-winning 1017, the truth.

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Yes, you are listening to 1017 The Truth, Milwaukee Black Top.

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Join the conversation pull up a chair grab you a glass It's a great vine ain't gonna pour y'all a glass of some pino noir or something like that You feel me bring somebody to the table with you, man We want to talk about something today in our community man.

We had an amazing conversation the last couple hours on the lunch break with Shannon and myself was talking about you know

Artists being stared away from investing in a community and so forth, right?

And then it's a two-part conversation for me.

It's a two-part conversation for me because I feel like part of us, you know, we got to have a conversation amongst ourselves as well.

So we want to get into that.

We want to get into that, man.

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Today, today, today, y'all.

While I'm holding it down on this grapevine, I wanted us to talk about our money.

I wanted us to talk about our money.

All right.

Where our money actually goes?

How much money we represent?

in the community.

Things like that, y'all.

Then we also got some some topics that we didn't get to talk about actually on the lunch break.

So I want to.

I want to get into that.

I want to get into that on the lunch break as well.

I mean, not on the lunch break on the grapevine today as well, because it was some very important.

topics that we didn't get to.

We talked about Kaepernick 10 years.

We also wanted to talk about serial killer shrines.

I don't know if we'll talk about that on this one.

We'll talk about that on this one.

But Milwaukee definitely overhauls its flock camera policy.

So we want to talk about that.

We want to talk about what some of those changes were with some of the controversies were and things like that.

Right.

Then we want to look at Milwaukee crime headed in to the close of quarter three.

Then we're going to give you all a brief update on the governor's race.

And what are we doing to prepare our kids for what's next?

What are we doing to prepare the future?

What are we doing?

Are we doing enough?

Are we just sitting around thinking everything is going to be smooth?

Are we doing enough?

We want to talk about where our black dollar actually goes.

All right?

We want to talk about where we spend our money as we have people staring athletes to not invest.

in our communities, not put dollars into our communities, not go back to the places that they came from to help change the trajectory.

So we want to dive into that.

All right.

We want to talk about that.

Then we also want to talk about Power Nomics.

I don't know if anybody's familiar with that book.

It's an actual book called Power Nomics.

I have yet to finish reading it.

But I do have the book and I think everybody should check out the book.

So I want us to get into power andomics.

What it actually argues by is Dr. Claude Anderson.

All right.

Want to talk about that.

Then we want to talk about.

Group economics.

Group economics.

Do we care about it?

Do we care about it?

Then what it would actually take?

What would it take?

And how would we organize?

How do we organize our money our minds our dollars our votes?

How do we get on the same page?

How do we get on the same page when I think we ain't even like we not even reading the same books 8 3 3 2 1 2 10 17 we're gonna take our time with this.

This is gonna be a slow burn It's gonna be a slow burn this one was rolled real nice probably not acceptable but

I want y'all to think about these things.

I want us to think about it.

What does it mean?

What does group economics mean to you?

What does power economics mean to you?

Do you care about it?

Do you care about it?

I don't know if we do.

I don't know if we do.

We should.

We should care about it.

Because black buying power is projected at roughly 2.1 trillion dollars in 2026.

Up from 1.6 trillion in 2021.

Heading towards 3 million by 2030.

What are we doing with that buying power?

What are we being intentional about?

8 3 3 2 1 2 10 17 is the number to die.

Let's talk about it.

They shutting down businesses and saying it's due to violence and, you know, we know, we know who they talking about, but we got to have a conversation about it because just as I could be loud and defend that.

The garage bar is wrong for banning all.

local rap.

That's a different conversation.

That's a different conversation.

From the one that we need to have about our community.

Because it wasn't about going to garage.

Never been.

Zero interest.

Sounds like they're permanently closed now, too.

From what I hear.

But it was about our collective power as a music scene, a community, a city that has so much influence on the identity of this city.

So much and not just our community multiple communities as well.

Go look at all them older white men dancing to low-end music on tiktok Go look at it.

I'm like, hey, what's the better come on now?

We have amazing influence, but what are we doing with it?

And I know it's a

It's a very loaded question, right?

Shouts out to Felix.

Great afternoon.

Hit us up on YouTube if you can't listen in your cars.

Or if you got to get out your car and you want to stay continued, stay connected to the conversation, pull it up on YouTube.

One on one, seven of truth.

All right.

So that's what we talking about today, right?

Our power.

Where our money actually goes Powernomics group economics What would it actually take and how do we organize How do we get back to what the Panthers did back in the day How do we get back to well not get back to because they still have it The nation

Had their newspaper the way the the food programs.

How do we get back to it?

But when we get back y'all don't go anywhere We will dive right into this conversation on the award-winning one-on-one seven of truth.

This is Ray nitty holding it down on the grave

What up y'all?

What up?

What up?

What up?

What up?

Good afternoon.

Good afternoon.

It's your boy Ray Nitty holding it down on the grapevine.

On the award-winning 1017, The Truth Live from the American Family Assurance Studios.

How y'all feeling?

Today we talking about our money, man, where it actually goes.

Group economics, power-nomics.

What can we do as a community, man?

With all this influence, with all this buying power.

But we just distract it.

We buying stupid things, wasteful spending, flexing for the ground, flexing for the clout, overconsumption.

We want to talk about it.

833-212-1017 is the number to dial.

You can text that number too.

You can text that number if you don't feel like calling if you shy.

Text it.

Share the loot YouTube link, please.

Please share the YouTube link.

Like, subscribe, share, please.

Would truly appreciate it.

Bring somebody with you.

Text somebody.

Let them know what's being talked about right now, right?

So we're going to get right into it and a lot of these things are fact checked.

All of our stuff is fact checked.

Buying power figures.

Confirmed via the Sea League Center for Economic Growth, University of Georgia and Nielsen slash Nielsen IQ, the two primary research sources.

This data comes from industry wide.

All right.

Talking about the money, y'all.

Black buying power in the US, like we said, projected roughly around 2.1 trillion.

I was up from one point six trillion in twenty twenty one.

On pace towards two point five to three trillion by 2030.

Black consumers make up about 14 percent of the US population.

But.

Historically.

account for roughly 9% of total consumer spending.

Real economic weight, even while trailing population share.

Think about that.

Our.

Consumer.

spending Our total spending is I'm gonna just read it again as Consumers we make up 14% of the US Population we just make up 14% of the population Historically we account for 9% of total of the consumer spending

We spending that we spending it man All right Real economic weight y'all we got that back Even while trailing in population share And it's only gonna go up

Spending is growing faster than the general populations, roughly 5% annual growth in black consumer spending versus 3% overall according to recent industry tracking.

Our spending habits is growing faster than our population.

Think about that.

Where does it go to?

Some some areas in where this spending goes to.

They say groceries, health, wellness, beauty, travel, saving slash investing are the five categories that National Urban Leagues 2026 State of Black America report specifically measured.

as areas of major black consumer influence.

Black shoppers account for a notably high share of U.S.

luxury spending and are disproportionately early adapters across tech, entertainment and fashion.

Retailers openly track black consumers as trendsetters

Not just a market segment.

All right.

Streaming media consumption is real measurable

data.

Streaming media consumption is a real measurable area of outsized.

Influenced black audiences average significantly more weekly media hours than the general population and streaming now makes up nearly half of total TV viewing time in black households.

All right.

The real gap.

A small share.

Of two point one trillion dollar reaching black owned businesses.

It's a small share of this two point one trillion dollars that we represent.

is only reaching black businesses.

A small percent.

They say our dollar doesn't stay in our community very long.

And we don't need no... I don't think we need no data to...

to prove that.

Look at who owns the stores in our community.

You don't need no data to see what's right in front of you.

Go to the gas station.

Go to your corner store.

Go to the grocery store.

Go to the liquor store.

Go to the beauty store.

Go to the dollar store.

Go to any store.

Go to a liquor store.

Go to a restaurant.

Do you prioritize going to black owned businesses?

Do you prioritize where you spend your 2.1 trillion dollars in buying power?

I want to know.

Do you prioritize it?

I try to.

We want to get into power-nomics and what it actually argues, right?

And power-nomics is a book I'm currently reading.

I need to get through it.

I'm nowhere near through this book.

But I did see a lot of documentaries on him I saw when he was on the breakfast club his interview he did on there and his name is dr. Claude Anderson All right former assistant secretary of commerce under president Carter Someone who's actually built vertically vertically integrated black owned businesses himself published

The Power Nomics, the national plan to empower Black America laying out the framework.

We should, you should get this book.

His core argument, his core argument, John, is the wealth gap isn't an accident or a motivation problem.

We talking about Power Nomics.

is the result of what he calls racial monopolies where systems, we know the systems, what's the systems y'all?

The education system, the law system, the media system, the finance system, all right?

We noticed, we've talked about these things before.

But for some reason it don't stick with us.

But these racial monopolies where systems were deliberately structured to keep control and capital concentrated outside of black communities.

Shout out to the chat.

All one.

Says I go out my way to spend black or where blacks receive a check.

I appreciate that He often cited stat Americans owned about half of 1% of the nation's wealth in 1865

Black Americans.

Black Americans owned about half of the one half of one percent.

Of the nation's wealth in 1865.

That share is barely different today.

OK.

When we come back.

We gon' get back into some more of this Power Nomics and Dr. Claude Anderson and what it looks like.

But don't go anywhere, y'all.

You are listening to your boy Ray Nitty holding it down on the grapevine on your award-winning 1017, The Truth.

What up, y'all?

Welcome back, welcome back.

If you're just joining us, you are tuned in to the grapevine with your boy Ray Nitty holding it down.

Brother Z got us on the production and sound.

Live from the American Family Assurance Studios, you are listening to 1017 The Truth, the award-winning 1017 The Truth.

My apologies.

We talking about power-nomics, y'all.

We talking about power-nomics.

Concept by Dr. Claude Anderson.

He just joined in us.

He was a former assistant secretary of commerce under President Carter.

And he was talking about.

Our power nomics.

Right.

And what he was calling for.

His core argument, I'll restate this, is that the wealth gap isn't an accident or a motivation problem.

It's the result of what he calls racial monopolies, where systems were deliberately structured to keep control and capital concentrated outside of black communities.

Black Americans owned about half of 1%.

of the nation's wealth in 1865.

And that share is barely different today.

His idea, right?

His central strategic idea is group economics, which we'll get into a little later.

A 3 3 2 1 2 10 17 is the number to die.

We would love you to be a part of this conversation.

Group economics, power-nomics, organizing our money, our minds, our votes.

His strategic idea is group economics pooling our money, our labor, institutional power collectively rather than relying purely on individual advancement.

Let's bring it together.

We always say we are greater together.

It's a reason why separation has been such a huge tactic used against our community.

Create the vision between a man and a woman, a black man and a black woman.

The black father and the black son, the black mother and the black daughter.

Generational division.

Between the black grandparents and the black grandkids.

Constant division.

Group economics, if somebody is constantly using a tactic.

To keep us divided and arguing amongst ourselves.

in all corners of our community.

I just named it man against woman, mother against daughter, father against son, children rebelling against parents.

It's gotta mean we...

We way more powerful together right if we was on the same page Now I'm no you know, I didn't work under Carter.

I'm just somebody thinking I Would like to say I'm using common sense is what I would like to say

But group economics, he's saying pool our money, labor, institutional power collectively rather than relying purely on individual advancement.

Money without ownership is a fleeting tool.

We got to own.

We got to own.

What good is money if it's not attached to anything that we own?

Let me go get to Christ.

Wealth is anchored in assets, institutions, and control.

All right?

So his plan calls for vertically integrated black-owned industries, black-owned industries, owning a meaning.

owning a product from raw material.

All right.

To retail shelf.

Not just us.

Having a storefront.

Vertically integrated black owned industries.

owning a product from raw material to retail shelf, not just the storefront.

Reform and education toward entrepreneurship and trade skills.

Starting in middle school.

Remember we started, we had some of these programs in middle school, they got rid of them.

Wonder why?

Building, guess what?

Independent black owned media to control the community's own narrative.

What are we doing here at the truth?

Building our own media, controlling our narrative.

Making sure we got a voice in black Milwaukee.

Because why is the worst place to raise black families while being one of the most amazing places to raise white ones?

Still waiting for somebody to address that All right Building independent black owned media to control the community's own narrative and using the black voting block As leverage

for concrete policy wins, not just symbolic representation.

OK.

And it's been people pushing back against.

Powernomic style strategies, you know, they raise the question.

Here's the question.

This is a pushback.

This was a pushback.

Can black owned businesses.

And institutions actually scale and compete without either broader systemic reform, meaning housing, lending, education, funding, or serious external capital.

Do we have the outside capital?

Or does group economics alone ask a historically undercapitalized community?

to out save its way out of the wealth gap and build over centuries.

That was built over centuries.

That's what people push about.

Do we got the capital to do it?

We definitely got the buying power to do it.

If we just started with that, prioritize where we spent our money, we'd be able to, just my opinion.

He has an arguing shot black and then that closes the gap.

All right.

He's arguing for ownership and institutions.

Not just consumer behavior, not just how we spending this, we buying that, we doing it, we know.

It's a meaningfully bigger and harder ass than a boycott or buying pledge and it's worth being precise about.

that distinction.

From.

Seed to table.

From textile to storefront.

I reference Judge Lena Taylor a lot.

Because she talked about a lot of these things.

She.

was very adamant about us getting involved into the hemp industry.

All the different products.

That hemp provided.

Where Wisconsin used to lead the nation.

And being one of the largest hemp producers.

In the nation and the textile products that came from hemp.

We got all this farm land out here.

How do we get back to that?

How do we get back to lead in the nation, but also having a seat at the table and not just being on the menu?

I applied for a hemp license.

I got awarded a hemp growing and processing license.

Because I wanted to participate.

Other communities always get in line and we end up being in the back because we don't have the knowledge or the access or the care to go do the research into what it would take for us to even be at the table.

So yeah.

We went and applied for one.

A hemp process in a grown license when it was in.

the beta stages, the test stages.

So when they legalize cannabis, they'd be like, oh, this person was part of our pilot program.

So we would we would hope that we would have the opportunity to participate when the legalization of cannabis does happen.

We would hope.

But what would that look like?

If black people dominated the cannabis industry, that it would eventually come in Wisconsin.

It would just be late.

It'll be late.

But we'll get to that when we give back y'all.

Don't go anywhere.

It's your boy Ray Nitty holding it down on the grapevine on the award-winning 10170 Truth.

What up y'all Welcome back welcome back to the grapevine on your award-winning one-on-one seven the truth live from the American Family Assurance Studios.

It's your boy Ray Nitty holding it down.

I almost hit that note man.

I almost hit that note But I ain't want no problems I ain't want no problems man a 33212 1017 is the number to dial

We talking about group economics, power economics, what it looks like.

Our black dollar, man.

So we want to talk about some group economics that actually happened.

Fact checked and confirmed via Forbes, the independent banker, ICBA, and base state banners.

2016 covers.

Bank black.

The clearest recent case study.

All right.

This was some of our group economics efforts.

July, 2016, rapper and activist Killer Mike.

I think people feel a little way about killing Mike right now, too.

Despite all of that, talk about the efforts to organize Black dollar.

Killer Mike launched the bank black challenge.

urging people to deposit at least $100 into a black owned bank.

In the first five days, 8,000 people opened accounts at Atlanta Citizens Trust Bank alone.

One United Bank, the largest black owned bank in the country, took in 10 million in new deposits in under a month during the same campaign.

and has since financed nearly one billion in loans to moderate and low income communities.

One united president, Terry Williams, put the math simply.

If one million people opened a hundred dollar savings account in a black owned bank, we would have, we would move one million.

That's real economic power.

A concrete, repeatable model, repeatable model.

Not an abstraction If one Pete one million people opened a hundred dollar savings account in a black owned bank All right would move one million Somewhere some feels wrong with that number

But cool Those are some of the efforts I don't Do even could Columbia savings and loans they still around in Milwaukee.

I know we had a Black bank.

Do you bank with a black bank?

If so, which black bank do you bank with?

I'm gonna look into this.

I need to put some money into a blank bank a black

bank.

Some online ones anybody could suggest.

Let me know.

I got to do better at that.

So here's a scale problem, honestly stated.

There are roughly 20 to 44 black owned banks and credit unions in the entire country.

It's very little.

Depending how you count.

Combined holding and small fraction of the assets of a single large regional bank, not one has yet crossed 1 billion in total assets.

One United, the largest, sits around 650 million.

Set against 2.1 trillion

in total black buying power, even a fully successful black bank style campaign bank black style campaign moves a rounding errors worth of that total.

So it's proof the strategy works.

At a household level, but also proof of just how much bigger organized efforts.

would need to be to meaningfully shift the larger picture.

A deeper historical model, we've talked about it over and over again on our show.

We even had my nephew who's working with justice for Greenwood.

Tulsa's Greenwood District, Black Wall Street, we know about it.

In the early 1900s, it is the most cited historical proof of the concept.

Fully self-contained black economic ecosystem from banks to hotels to theaters, doctor's offices, grocery stores, lawyers, dentists, where dollars circulated intentionally by simple necessity because we owned the businesses, we owned the buildings.

before it was destroyed.

Before they blew it up, fire bombed it, bombed it from the sky, dropped the bombs on black communities.

That was in the 1921 Tulsa race massacre.

This is documented, a nation's history against a people that constantly are being told to pull yourself up by the boots.

but not too hot because I'll blow your ass up.

1921 wasn't the start of when we started to try to pull ourselves up out of boots.

It seems like it's a pattern that we have to constantly revisit, constantly give lessons in today's world.

When people complain and say oh, we don't do enough to help ourselves and then we have a constant historical pattern or when we do help ourselves the efforts the evil tactics That are used to destroy what we've built How conveniently we forget that part How conveniently do we

constantly forget that part.

So excuse me if the community is tired of having to start over.

Not making excuses, I'm just saying.

Could you imagine?

Every time you did something and got a little further for your people, you mind your business.

You went and did it on your own, but people keep blowing your stuff up.

knocking it down.

Making it harder for you to receive the American dream and then tell you try harder.

They tell you to try harder.

So the lesson often drawn from the Greenwood isn't just that it like it can work.

is that concentrated black wealth has historically drawn violent backlash.

We're talking about 1921.

Earlier today, we were talking about just yesterday, Jalen Brown, who was just talking about it.

In today's world, got his own money, $230 million worth, and they're staring players and athletes from giving back to their communities.

Okay.

So it could work.

We've seen it work, but let's be honest and talk about that concentrated black wealth has historically drawn violent backlash.

Meaning any modern version of this conversation has to grapple

with the protection and political power, not just economics alone.

And that's what I've been trying to say.

That's what I've been trying to say for months.

For months.

For months.

Bank Black.

Proves the organizing model works at a grassroots level Okay Thousands of people moved real money in days y'all in days So my question for y'all is what would it take to make that a sustained habit Rather than a one-time viral moment

tied to the new cycle or the social media buzz or the clout.

What do we got to do to make that law?

It can't just feel good on social media for that moment.

It's got to be a habit.

It's got to be the law.

It's got to be the new way of life of us prioritizing what we doing with our money.

And it's going so far that we have been programmed to believe and not even trust each other enough that we would do something like that.

All these barriers, all these things to divide us.

When we come back, we're going to talk about on the other side of the second hour what it would actually take and how do we organize, all right?

Concrete steps, not just slogans.

All right?

Then we're gonna get into some more things.

But don't go anywhere, y'all.

This is your boy Ray Nitty holding it down on the grapevine when the award-winning 1017, the truth.

All right, right into this conversation on the award-winning one-on-one seven, the truth.

This is Ray Nitty holding it down on the grape.

What up, y'all?

What up?

What up?

What up?

Good afternoon.

Good afternoon.

It's your boy Ray Nitty holding it down on the grapevine.

on the award-winning 1017, The Truth Live from the American Family Assurance Studios.

How y'all feeling?

Today we talking about our money, man, where it actually goes.

Group economics, power-nomics.

What can we do as a community, man, with all this influence, with all this buying power?

But we just distract it.

We buying stupid things, wasteful spending, flexing for the grand.

Flexing for the clout over consumption We want to talk about it eight three three two one two ten seventeen is the number to dial You could text that number to You could text that number if you don't feel like calling if you shy Text it share the loot YouTube link, please please share the YouTube link

Like, subscribe, share, please.

Would truly appreciate.

Bring somebody with you.

Text somebody.

Let them know what's being talked about right now, right?

So we're going to get right into it.

And a lot of these things are fact checked.

All of our stuff is fact checked.

Buying power figures confirmed via the Sea League Center for Economic Growth, University of Georgia.

And Nielsen slash Nielsen IQ, the two primary research sources.

This data comes from industry wide.

All right.

Talking about the money, y'all.

Black buying power in the US, like we said, projected roughly around 2.1 trillion.

I was up from 1.6 trillion in twenty twenty one.

on pace towards 2.5 to 3 trillion by 2030.

Black consumers make up about 14 percent of the US population.

But.

Historically, account for roughly 9 percent of total consumer spending.

Real economic weight even while trailing population shit think about that Our Consumer spending Our total spending is I'm gonna just read it again

As consumers, we make up 14% of the US population.

We just make up 14% of the population.

Historically, we account for 9% of total of the consumer spending.

We spending that.

We spending it, man.

All right.

Real economic weight y'all, we got that back even while trailing in population share.

And it's only gonna go up.

Spending is growing faster than the general populations, roughly 5% annual growth in black consumer spending versus 3% overall according to recent industry tracking.

Our spending habits is growing faster than our population.

Think about that.

Where does it go to?

Some some areas in where this spending goes to.

They say groceries.

Health, wellness, beauty, travel, saving slash investing are the five categories that National Urban League's 2026 State of Black America report specifically measured as areas of major black consumer influence.

Black shoppers account for a notably high share of U.S.

luxury spending.

and are this disproportionately early adapters across tech, entertainment and fashion.

Retailers openly track black consumers as trendsetters, not just a market segment.

All right.

Streaming media consumption is real measure.

data.

Streaming media consumption is a real measurable area of outsized influence.

Black audiences average significantly more weekly media hours than the general population and streaming now makes up nearly half of total TV viewing time in black households.

All right.

The real gap.

A small share.

Of two point one trillion dollar reaching black owned businesses.

So small share of this two point one trillion dollars that we represent.

Is only reaching black businesses a small percent They say our dollar doesn't stay in our community very long and we don't need no I don't think we need no data to

to prove that.

Look at who owns the stores in our communities.

You don't need no data to see what's right in front of you.

Go to the gas station.

Go to your corner store.

Go to the grocery store.

Go to the liquor store.

Go to the beauty store.

Go to the dollar store.

Go to any store.

Go to a liquor store.

Go to a restaurant.

Do you prioritize going to black owned businesses?

Do you prioritize where you spend your $2.1 trillion in buying power?

I want to know.

Do you prioritize it?

I try to We want to get into power nomics And what it actually argues right and Power nomics is a book.

I'm currently reading I need to get through it.

I'm nowhere near through this book

But I did see a lot of documentaries on him I saw when he was on the breakfast club his interview he did on there and his name is dr. Claude Anderson All right former assistant secretary of commerce under president Carter Someone who's actually built vertically vertically integrated black owned businesses himself

published the Power Nomics, the national plan to empower Black America laying out the framework.

We should, you should get this book.

His core argument, his core argument, John, is the wealth gap isn't an accident or a motivation problem.

We talking about Power Nomics.

is the result of what he calls racial monopolies, where systems, we know the systems.

What's the systems, y'all?

The education system, the law system, the media system, the finance system, all right?

We know this, we've talked about these things before.

But for some reason it don't stick with us.

But these racial monopolies where systems were deliberately structured to keep control and capital concentrated outside of black communities.

Shout out to the chat.

All one.

Says I go out my way to spend black or where blacks receive a check I appreciate that He often cited stat Americans owned about half of 1% of the nation's wealth in 1865

Black Americans.

Black Americans owned about half of the one half of one percent.

Of the nation's wealth in 1865.

That share is barely different today.

OK.

When we come back.

We're going to get back.

Get to some more of this Power Nomics and Dr. Claude Anderson and what it looks like.

But don't go anywhere, y'all.

You are listening to your boy Ray Nitty holding it down on the grapevine on your award-winning 1017, The Truth.

What up, y'all?

Welcome back, welcome back.

If you're just joining us, you are tuned in to the grapevine with your boy Ray Nitty holding it down.

Brother Z got us on the production and sound.

Live from the American Family Assurance Studios, you are listening to 1017 The Truth, the award-winning 1017 The Truth.

My apologies.

We're talking about Power Nomics, y'all.

We're talking about Power Nomics.

Concept by Dr. Claude Anderson.

He just joined in us.

He was a former assistant secretary of commerce under President Carter.

And he was talking about our power nomics.

Right.

And what he was calling for.

His core argument, I'll restate this, is that the wealth gap isn't an accident or a motivation problem.

It's the result of what he calls racial monopolies, where systems were deliberately structured to keep control and capital concentrated outside of black communities.

Black Americans owned about half of 1%.

of the nation's wealth in 1865.

And that share is barely different today.

His idea, right?

His central strategic idea is group economics, which we'll get into a little later.

A 3 3 2 1 2 10 17 is the number to die.

We would love you to be a part of this conversation.

Group economics, power-nomics, organizing our money, our minds, our votes.

His strategic idea is group economics pooling our money, our labor, institutional power collectively rather than relying purely on individual advancement.

Let's bring it together.

We always say we are greater together.

It's a reason why separation has been such a huge tactic used against our community.

Create the vision between a man and a woman, a black man and a black woman.

The black father and the black son, the black mother and the black daughter.

Generational division.

Between the black grandparents and the black grandkids.

Constant division.

Group economics, if somebody is constantly using a tactic.

To keep us divided and arguing amongst ourselves.

in all corners of our community.

I just named it man against woman, mother against daughter, father against son, children rebelling against parents.

It's gotta mean we...

We way more powerful together right if we was on the same page Now I'm no you know, I didn't work under Carter.

I'm just somebody thinking I Would like to say I'm using common sense is what I would like to say

But group economics, he's saying pool our money, labor, institutional power collectively rather than relying purely on individual advancement.

Money without ownership is a fleeting tool.

We got to own.

We got to own.

What good is money if it's not attached to anything that we own?

Let me go get to Christ.

Wealth is anchored in assets, institutions, and control.

All right?

So his plan calls for vertically integrated black-owned industries.

Black-owned industries, owning the meaning.

owning a product from raw material.

All right.

To retail shelf.

Not just us.

Having a storefront.

Vertically integrated black owned industries.

owning a product from raw material to retail shelf, not just the storefront.

Reform and education toward entrepreneurship and trade skills.

Starting in middle school.

Remember we started, we had some of these programs in middle school, they got rid of them.

Wonder why?

Building, guess what?

Independent black owned media to control the community's own narrative.

What are we doing here at the truth?

Building our own media, controlling our narrative.

Making sure we got a voice in black Milwaukee.

Because why is the worst place to raise black families while being one of the most amazing places to raise white ones?

Still waiting for somebody to address that All right Building independent black owned media to control the community's own narrative and using the black voting block As leverage

for concrete policy wins, not just symbolic representation.

OK.

And it's been people pushing back against.

Powernomic style strategies, you know, they raise the question.

Here's the question.

This is a pushback.

This was a pushback.

Can black owned businesses.

And institutions actually scale and compete without either broader systemic reform, meaning housing, lending, education, funding, or serious external capital.

Do we have the outside capital?

Or does group economics alone ask a historically undercapitalized community?

to out save its way out of the wealth gap and build over centuries.

That was built over centuries.

That's what people push about.

Do we got the capital to do it?

We definitely got the buying power to do it.

If we just started with that, prioritize where we spent our money, we'd be able to, just my opinion.

He hasn't arguing shot black and then that closes the gap.

All right.

He's arguing for ownership and institutions.

Not just consumer behavior, not just how we spending this, we buying that, we doing it, we know.

It's a meaningfully bigger and harder ass than a boycott or buying pledge and it's worth being precise about.

that distinction.

From.

Seed to table.

From textile to storefront.

I reference Judge Lena Taylor a lot.

Because she talked about a lot of these things.

She.

was very adamant about us getting involved into the hemp industry.

All the different products.

That hemp provided.

Where Wisconsin used to lead the nation.

And being one of the largest hemp producers.

In the nation and the textile products that came from hemp.

We got all this farm laying out here.

How do we get back to that?

How do we get back to lead in the nation, but also having a seat at the table and not just being on the menu?

I applied for a hemp license.

I got awarded a hemp growing and processing license.

because I wanted to participate.

Other communities always get in line and we end up being in the back because we don't have the knowledge or the access or the care to go do the research into what it would take for us to even be at the table.

So, yeah.

We went and applied for one.

A hemp process and a grown license when it was in.

the beta stages, the test stages.

So when they legalize cannabis, they'd be like, oh, this person was part of our pilot program.

So we would hope that we would have the opportunity to participate when the legalization of cannabis does happen.

We would hope.

But what would that look like?

If black people

dominated the cannabis industry.

That will eventually come in Wisconsin.

It'll just be late.

It'll be late.

But we'll get to that when we give back y'all.

Don't go anywhere.

It's your boy Ray Nitty holding it down on the grapevine on the award-winning 10170 Truth.

What up y'all Welcome back welcome back to the grapevine on the award-winning one-on-one seven the truth live from the American Family Assurance Studios.

It's your boy Ray Nitty holding it down.

I almost hit that note man.

I almost hit that note But I ain't want no problems.

I Ain't want no problems man a 3 3 2 1 2 10 17 is the number to dial

We're talking about group economics, power economics, what it looks like.

Our black dollar, man.

So we want to talk about some group economics that actually happened.

Fact checked and confirmed via Forbes, the independent banker, ICBA, and base state banners.

2016 covers.

Bank black.

The clearest recent case study.

All right.

This was some of our group economics efforts.

July, 2016, rapper and activist Killer Mike.

I think people feel a little way about killing Mike right now, too.

Despite all of that, talk about the efforts to organize Black dollar.

Killer Mike launched the bank black challenge.

urging people to deposit at least $100 into a black owned bank.

In the first five days, 8,000 people opened accounts at Atlanta Citizens Trust Bank alone.

One United Bank, the largest black owned bank in the country, took in 10 million in new deposits in under a month during the same campaign.

and has since financed nearly one billion in loans to moderate and low income communities.

One united president, Terry Williams, put the math simply.

If one million people opened a hundred dollar savings account in a black owned bank, we would have, we would move one million.

That's real economic power.

A concrete, repeatable model, repeatable model.

Not an abstraction If one Pete one million people opened a hundred dollar savings account in a black owned bank All right would move one million Somewhere some feels wrong with that number

But cool Those were some of the efforts I don't Do even could Columbia savings and loans they still around in Milwaukee.

I know we had a Black bank.

Do you bank with a black bank?

If so, which black bank do you bank with?

I'm gonna look into this.

I need to put some money into a blank bank a black

bank.

Some online ones anybody could suggest.

Let me know.

I got to do better at that.

So here's a scale problem, honestly stated.

There are roughly 20 to 44 black owned banks and credit unions in the entire country.

It's very little.

Depending how you count.

Combined holding and small fraction of the assets of a single large regional bank not one has yet crossed One billion in total assets One United the largest sits around 650 million Set against 2.1 trillion

in total black buying power, even a fully successful black bank style campaign bank black style campaign moves a rounding errors worth of that total.

So it's proof the strategy works.

At a household level, but also proof of just how much bigger organized efforts.

would need to be to meaningfully shift the larger picture.

A deeper historical model, we've talked about it over and over again on our show.

We even had my nephew who's working with justice for Greenwood.

Tulsa's Greenwood District, Black Wall Street, we know about it.

In the early 1900s, it is the most cited historical proof of the concept.

Fully self-contained black economic ecosystem from banks to hotels to theaters, doctor's offices, grocery stores, lawyers, dentists, where dollars circulated intentionally by simple necessity because we owned the businesses, we owned the buildings.

before it was destroyed.

Before they blew it up, fire bombed it, bombed it from the sky, dropped the bombs on black communities.

That was in the 1921 Tulsa race massacre.

This is documented, a nation's history against a people that constantly are being told to pull yourself up by the boots.

But not too hot because I'll blow your ass up 1921 wasn't the starter when we started to try to pull ourselves up out of boots It seems like it's a pattern that we have to constantly revisit constantly give lessons in today's world

When people complain and say oh, we don't do enough to help ourselves and then we have a constant historical pattern or when we do help ourselves the efforts the evil tactics That are used to destroy what we've built How conveniently we forget that part How conveniently do we

constantly forget that part.

So excuse me if the community is tired of having to start over.

Not making excuses.

I'm just saying.

Could you imagine?

Every time you did something and got a little further for your people, you mind your business.

You want to did it on your own, but people keep blowing your stuff up.

Knocking it down.

Making it harder for you to receive the American dream and then tell you try harder.

They tell you to try harder.

So the lesson often drawn from the Greenwood isn't just that it like it can work.

is that concentrated black wealth has historically drawn violent backlash.

We're talking about 1921.

Earlier today, we were talking about just yesterday, Jalen Brown, who was just talking about it.

In today's world, got his own money, $230 million worth, and they're staring players and athletes from giving back to their communities.

Okay.

So it could work.

We've seen it work, but let's be honest and talk about that concentrated black wealth has historically drawn violent backlash.

Meaning any modern version of this conversation has to grapple.

with the protection and political power, not just economics alone.

And that's what I've been trying to say.

That's what I've been trying to say for months.

For months.

For months.

Bank Black.

Proves the organizing model works at a grassroots level Okay Thousands of people moved real money in days y'all in days So my question for y'all is what would it take to make that a sustained habit Rather than a one-time viral moment

tied to the new cycle or the social media buzz or the clout.

What do we got to do to make that law?

It can't just feel good on social media for that moment.

What up, y'all?

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Welcome back.

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Yes, you are listening to one-on-one, Seven the Truth, Milwaukee Black Talk, live from the American Family Assurance Studios.

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We talking about group economics.

Powernomics.

What would it take?

What would it take, y'all?

All right.

So now we talking about what would it take and how do we organize some concrete steps?

All right.

We talked about the direct deposit shift.

Moving even a modest sustained percentage of the 2.1 trillion in black buying power toward black owned banks and credit unions gives those institutions the capital based the capital base to make more loans to black home buyers and business owners.

This is the single most replicable.

individually actionable step from part three.

Well, we just talked about the actual.

Examples of group economics, the bank black movement, right?

Vertical integration over single storefronts, something Dr. Claude Anderson specific.

critique of most by black efforts is that they stay at the retail level.

All right.

We just rent the store and try to sell the products, but we don't own the products that we sell.

We don't have a pipeline of people producing the products that we sell.

Often we are getting it from some other distributor, most likely somewhere in China.

Asia, Alibaba, I don't know, India.

We buy it in bulk from somebody else and then use somebody else to ship it to us, somebody else to package it, all of these different layers and what vertical integration could look like.

So it's about producing the product.

having the plants that produce the product, the packaging, owning the companies that patch it, package the now produced product, then having distribution, the shipping and handling, making sure our company owns that as well.

The delivery methods, all right?

How does it get?

to the storefront, to the restaurant.

That's what vertical integration would look like.

Without every building, without every building, the supply chain, I just said this, manufacturing, distribution, wholesale.

Behind it, which is where the larger profit margins and real ownership actually sits.

Who are the black wholesalers?

Who are the black wholesale retailers?

I don't know Institutional not just individual organizing these are the steps Institutional not just individual organizing

833-212-1017 is the number to die.

Call in with your suggestions on how we dig ourselves out of this dirt hole that we are in.

This y'all station, this is black media.

We control the narrative.

We tell the stories.

We uplift our people.

Call in.

Don't get silent now.

Because.

You know, we criticize a lot, but I don't know how active as a community we actually get, which makes me feel like we ain't that upset about the things that's going on.

We just like to speak about it.

Okay.

Institutional, not just individual organizing.

Credit unions, cooperative buying groups.

Just talked about that this morning.

Chow's out to Ms.

LaShondra Vernon.

We gonna be cooking up something.

Cooperative buying groups, pooled investment funds, let a community act with the purchasing and lending power of a single large institution instead of thousands of disconnected individual consumers.

sustained data and accountability.

Dr. Claude Anderson's framework and the National Urban Leagues on 2026 report.

This is this year, y'all.

Both stress tracking real outcomes from loans made, businesses funded, jobs created rather than just spending pledges.

Measuring whether the efforts is actually converting into ownership.

Because we will make a pledge now.

We'll make a pledge to donate something.

The pledge don't ever just, you know, some people just be pledging to pledge.

I pledge allegiance to this flag.

Some people just pledge to pledge.

So here's the tension.

Individual choices.

Individual choices.

Where you bank.

Where you shop.

Where you eat.

Where you decide to buy a home.

Where you decide to put your business.

are real replicable and proven to move millions of dollars in days.

Okay?

But closing a multi-trillion dollar centuries old wealth gap requires the same energy sustained over years.

It's not just gonna happen if we just do it.

One, you know, one viral social media cycle, that's not gonna be enough.

We need a generational

viral cycle.

We need a generational viral cycle.

Okay.

It requires that same energy sustained over years plus institutions big enough to make real loans.

Plus political power to protect what gets

built.

All right.

You see where we going with this?

That's why I always say voting isn't the only thing, but it's part of it.

It's one of the tools.

It's one of the weapons that we have to go to war with.

All right.

We have to protect what we build.

And we protect it with policies.

We just talked about it the other day, the restaurant industry lobbied for the $2.31 sub minimum wage that is permanent.

How?

How is something like that permanent?

Because they organize their money, their industries and their power to get policies in place to protect what they built.

That's how.

We got Mike on the line Mike.

How you doing man?

You live on the grapevine

Yo, how's it going, bro?

I'm doing well.

I'm doing

well Michael Ho from the Trinity Journal.

Oh, man.

Nice to hear from

you.

Celebrating my 50th anniversary.

I've been around for a while.

Congratulations on 50 years.

Thanks, bro.

50 years, and I've seen a lot of changes in Milwaukee.

In the 90s, we called for a Black United Fund that would invest in superstition with Black dollars.

You know, 20 years ago, there were two Black banks in Milwaukee.

Two.

We didn't support them, and they ended up closing.

Well, we defaulted on loans.

You know, I don't want to repeat history.

I agree with you, 1,000%.

We need to address it our own community.

But I've been saying this for so long, you know, I'm sad to get a headache.

Because, you know, I just saw a report that saying Milwaukee is a nice, worse-forming city dependent.

We get the highest black brain drains in the country.

I'm

working with a group right now that's trying to create a charter school at North Division because it is the worst performing school in the Midwest.

Unfortunately, you know, our people don't seem to wake up to some of this stuff.

I don't know what to do.

I would like to drag him down in the mud hole.

It's just tough, brother.

I really expected when the Milwaukee Community Journal started in 1976, I thought we would really have, you know, some impact.

But, you know, we taking minor little steps instead of giant steps, you know,

I'm glad you're on there because, you know, the irony is, you are repeating the same stuff that we brought up 20, 30 and 40 years ago.

I hope you have more success than me.

I mean, we've seen some minor progress.

We put some people in office, et cetera.

But

we haven't got over the

top.

And I don't understand why.

Nope.

Totally I got a t-shirt right Yeah, I got a t-shirt right now people been looking at I just left the VA people been looking at all day long and it says I Know the problem is you stupid We

can I get that shirt What can I get one of them shirts man, I think you said something that that make a lot of sense because we talked about it on the lunch break as well because

I feel like we're talking about something that even shots out the mic for calling in as well, you know, he said 50 years ago.

I'm talking about the same thing that they were talking about 50 years ago and he prays.

He prays.

We have more success.

And he's talking about 50 years ago, earlier in this very show, we said in 1921, they were talking about what?

The same thing.

And even achieved it, got close to it, but they blew it up, bombed it from the sky, Tulsa, Oklahoma.

We had black, go, go research.

What was Central Park before it was Central Park?

Go research.

What was Central Park before it was Central Park?

It was a black community That they took from us through intimate domain and turned it into Central Park Go in if I'm not mistaken in Georgia Where it used to be a black

City, a black colony.

They flooded it.

Now it's a lake.

We talking about the same things, the same cycles.

Look, this year, even when we are making strides, they destroy it, they take it away.

DEI is, they take, don't go anywhere, y'all.

When we come back.

When we come back.

We going to keep this conversation going, but we have to go take a break.

Suboy Ray Nitty holding it down on a grapevine on the award-winning one-on-one seven to

true

What up y'all what up what up what up what up welcome back to the grapevine with your boy Ray nitty You are listening to one-on-one seven of truth from a walkie-black talk Live from the American Family Assurance Studios y'all we having a great conversation today, man But seems like it's a conversation that we are constantly having We

constantly had this conversation as a community.

We've seen it in Tulsa.

We've seen it before.

We've seen this over and over again.

We've seen it.

We've seen it.

We've lived it.

And Mike just called and said, man, some of the things that he's celebrating 50 years was at the community journal.

And it's almost.

It's almost sad to hear if I'm being honest There's somebody that want better for their community 50 years ago community journey.

They were talking about the same thing to today And if we talk about 50 years before that Tulsa, Oklahoma if we go before that

The things we was fighting for got destroyed.

The progress we were made got erased, set back further.

We gotta protect what we build in the future.

We can't just build anything no more and think people gonna just leave us alone.

Because that's history has shown us over and over again and it's showing us right now They're like oh y'all been showing up the voting The black community ain't just been sitting down quiet no more no more mailing ballots we restricted mailing ballots in some of these communities now voter ID like every Corner we turn was a barrier

All right.

We got to build our own vertically integrated institutions.

We got to do it.

We have to do it.

And we got to protect it.

We have to protect it and you protect it by elected leaders that will put policies in place to protect your rights your needs and the things that you've built as a community We have to do it Where you bank

where you shop are real replicable and proven to move millions of dollars in days.

But closing a multi trillion dollar centuries old wealth gap requires that same energy sustained over years.

Plus institutions big enough to make real loans, plus political power to protect.

What gets built?

2016 proved the first part with blank back with bank black.

But nobody has yet proven the second and third at scale.

We've yet to do that at scale.

So it's a challenge.

It's a challenge for our truth family.

I swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth.

So help me God.

This is my challenge.

So rather than just ending this on, you know, this segment on we got a shot black.

You know.

Let's end it with something attached to it.

Let's put a number on.

Let's get a part of a specific local black owned bank or credit union.

A specific dollar amount.

A specific time frame.

That we going to do some.

I still see the building Columbia Savings and Loans, but it's not Columbia Savings and Loans normal.

And it was Seaway like Seaway Bank for a second.

I think it's not even Seaway no more.

Do we have any?

I got to do the research.

Give me one second.

I got to see.

Do we have any black owned banks still active in Milwaukee?

Got to see it.

So they still are active.

Let's see.

Oh, I don't know why they're trying to say UW credit you.

QW credit.

You ain't no black on bank.

Columbia Savings and Laws Association.

Founded in 1924 by on arty.

I want to mess up nobody name.

and Wilbur Halyard.

So, I'm going to go, when I get off, I'll make a call to Columbia Savings alone.

See what they really do.

Don't see what they tell them.

So, yeah, y'all, we got to make some active efforts.

We got to really organize and actually get something done.

Will we go put some money in Columbia savings and long?

I don't even know if I could say that You know FCC and all these other things, you know, it's all these rules that stop you from getting your people to the promised land So we got you know, let me make sure I can legally Say this on the airwaves Because the views and opinions expressed on this show is that of my own and not Of the truth

All right So let's figure out what we gonna do y'all what we gonna do with it How much money will we give when will we give it that's what we gonna do We're gonna put together a time dating and give some specific action steps, but before that we gotta do a little research So we can organize it properly then we gonna organize it by

Organizing our votes around this governor's election coming up Then we want to prioritize where we spend our dollars All right We gonna do that We gonna do that and we gonna put some dates on it and we gonna make it happen Okay, and that's what we gonna talk about.

That's how that's how we gonna do it.

We not gonna wait until somebody else

tells us what to do.

Because all they gonna do is getting away, hate on us even more, make it even more difficult to get things done.

When we come back when we come back y'all we gonna get into some local Stuff we want to talk about Milwaukee overhauls its flock camera policy What does that mean?

What does that mean now?

We want to talk about it.

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Milwaukee Overhauls, it's flock camera policy.

833-212-1017 is the number to dial.

833-212-1017 is the number to dial.

We want to talk about it.

We want to talk about it Viewing YouTube joining a subscribe and share, please Six changes Straight from the mirror's office.

They was on this tail boy.

It was on your heels Chevy Tagging him Milwaukee, you know, we don't got no shame.

They was tagging that man.

I wish you would Milwaukee overhauls its flock camera policy

Fact check confirmed to be a Fox six TMJ for WTMJ urban Milwaukee and the Mirazon public statement announced yesterday, August 31st.

All right.

Six changes.

If you're familiar with flock, if you're not familiar with flock, it is basically a tracking system for the slaves.

No, I'm just let me let me chill.

I'm just playing.

I'm just playing.

But it is a tracking system that they have been using through cameras and it's checking your license plates and basically just surveillance man and people feel like it is an invasion of our privacy and It has been overused All right, but we're gonna talk about some of the six changes straight from the mayor's office I Want to know what y'all think about these changes

How do you feel about flock you full flock or you like flock?

No, I ain't with it All right Access has been restricted to supervisors only Only supervisors now Until earlier this year more than 600 Milwaukee Police Department officers had direct access to the flock database

That's crazy That's a lot of cops just doing what they want with kill information and we saw what they was doing with Officers and detectives will now need a supervisor to run a search Think that's fair, right?

What if the person abusing it was a supervisor?

What then?

What happens then?

if the person abusing it was a supervisor.

Use limited to part one crimes, homicide, rape, robbery, burglary, et cetera.

Critical missing persons, drug trafficking, organization investigations, and abductions only.

No more open-ended use.

So essentially, homicides, rape, robbery, any crime, missing persons, drug trafficking, and abductions only is what it could be used for.

No more open-ended usage.

Milwaukee will stop sharing flock data with surrounding jurisdictions entirely.

So they were sharing all of this information as well.

The only list for the changes right here, too, though, try to get the rest of the down changes.

Milwaukee will stop sharing flock data with surrounding jurisdictions.

A new public dashboard will track MPD's use of the system, giving residents visibility they haven't had before.

This is interesting.

What is the dashboard?

Did they share that?

And do they have a way to see if you've been flocked?

And what have you?

You should be able to see if you have been flocked and who flocked you.

Because I want to know who flocked me if I being flocked.

We should know these things.

What for?

Why are you flocking me, office?

Because a guru who's running flock is what he says.

How many of them got access?

Y'all only looking at who they gave access to.

Come on, it's chess, not we playing.

They said they gave access now before it was 600, essentially the whole jurisdiction, the whole Milwaukee Public Department.

Now supervisors only is who have access.

And it has to be for a certain type of crime.

Not just open-ended use, but now there will be a public dashboard that will track MPD's use of the system.

Given residents' visibility they have never had before.

I think this is at least a good step.

We got to see if we get Chevy on here to talk about what the flock is going on.

We got to get on here and talk to Chevy.

You know, I've been, I'm going to say this publicly, man.

I was a huge, huge critic.

of Mayor Cavalier Johnson.

Very huge critic of him.

But you know how I had the humble monsters, Jazzy looking at me like, you been not soft enough.

Little, little, little.

But I'm saying, I'm telling you the truth, right?

And here's my thing, why I gave, I'm giving Chevy some grace.

A lot of people don't like to hear it.

And we can say whatever, and whatever we say can be true.

But this is what I would say for myself One we know he inherited some BS that Tom Barrett was able to just allow to happen and somehow we still continue to act like he's just the godfather of Milwaukee where really bro you the one really ran us into this mess and then dipped and went to Luxembourg and was chilling out there So Chevy inherited a lot of mess

All right, so I give him grace for that and then I give him grace for the fact that even When he could have thrown CWC under the bus the developers under the bus for what was going on He was one of the only people That didn't take the easy route and just blame developers But he asked for what are we gonna do to hold?

Companies like masterlock accountable he said it publicly along with dr. Potts

So I give him grace for that.

And I also give him grace for as much as I criticized him.

I never once reached out and said, man, how can I help you, bro?

So I had to humble myself.

It's like, all right, because I always say if I'm going to criticize, I would love to say I at least attempted to provide some sort of solutions.

So on that merit.

I extend grace.

Some people don't like that.

I don't like that.

I get it.

I get it.

We got a black sheriff, a black chief, black county executive, black mayor, Puerto Rican common council president, hella black orders.

What's going on with black Milwaukee?

Then why things ain't getting better for black Milwaukee?

So I Had to humble myself a little bit and I know people say oh it ain't it ain't You ain't the man ain't you but we do have a role that we play as citizens We do have a role.

We do have a part to play in making this community better We do have a part to play that is some of y'all cousins down there on water street disrupting them strippers money from outside of silk The little that they was getting

And then some of your cousins.

And as much as I could defend a whole Milwaukee rap genre, because I know what we took to build that scene up, so I won't just let somebody blatantly tear it all down and lump all the music in as one.

No.

But that doesn't mean we can't have an honest conversation about how we conduct ourselves.

What is our responsibility as community partners?

What is our, what is our responsibility to our neighbors?

Do we have responsibility as community partners when we come back?

We're going to talk about it a little bit more before Ms.

Jazz Tyler steps in and taps in.

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Man, we had a great conversation today, man.

We had an extremely good conversation, actually.

We're closing up talking about the overhauls and the flat camera policy.

Some of the changes.

That has made been made from a guru said we heard that it was accident man Jazzy came in scared me and I forgot to turn the mic off.

It's all good man It's all good We talking about some of the changes that happened actually that's one of those that was approved by the FCC actually Access restricted to supervisors only

Until earlier this year, more than 600 MPD officers had direct access to the flock database.

Officers and detectives will now need a supervisor to run the search.

Use limited to part one crimes, homicide, rape, robbery, burglary, et cetera, critical missing persons, drug trafficking, organization investigations and abductions only.

No more open ended use.

Milwaukee will also stop sharing flock data with surrounding jurisdictions entirely.

I'm like, what was y'all sharing before?

A new public dashboard will track MPD's use of the system given residents visibility they haven't had before.

So now you could try it.

You could see what the heck is going on.

Why now?

because of the misuse problem.

At least three documented misuse cases in Milwaukee alone, two former MPD officers have been criminally charged with misuse and flock access for personal reasons, including one case where an officer was tracked, where an officer tracked a woman he was romantically involved with.

We're not surprised.

We're not surprised.

And I'm sure it's probably more that we just ain't even hearing so far.

You don't give 600 police officers that type of access and just think only two officers looked into somebody.

Mayor Cavalier Johnson's own framing.

I recognize the benefits of the flock camera system.

The technology has also been misused in several notable instances, both locally and nationally.

Compromising the rights of individuals.

Milwaukee currently operates 31 flat commerce citywide.

Each foot, each photographs the rear of every passing vehicle with images stored for 30 days.

They had the, the case with the lady.

They pulled guns on her.

Got her out of her car on the highway because of some wrong flocking information.

These fools didn't remove her information.

From a situation and then said, Oh, it was Milwaukee's fault.

They that's why we stopped her.

Woman could have got killed.

We've seen how our communities are handled.

We've seen these stories over and over and over again of how.

I mean, the police could get nervous.

And in the blink of an eye.

Would have to determine whether to use lethal force.

So not only has it been misused to stalk, intimidate, pressure, whatever, it has also been mismanaged by not properly doing the right editing, cleansing of data, removing improper information that has been wrongfully flocked.

So now she's suing She's suing as she rightfully said I would love we got to get be ivory on here Sierra, please.

Let's get be ivory on here so we could talk about what the flock is going on We gonna set that up we gonna set that up The controversy Is that this doesn't satisfy everyone right like this isn't enough

The ACLU of Wisconsin.

Amanda has been vocal in local coverage about the organization's ongoing privacy concerns, even with the new restrictions in place.

We're going to have to talk to her too.

On this show, not specifically this show, but on the lunch break show, we have already covered nearly a dozen Wisconsin communities, Eagle Sports Range.

Sheboygan, Dane County, Verona, Manona, Fishburg, Appleton, Oskar, Sturgeon Bay.

They have gone further than Milwaukee and dropped Flock entirely.

They got rid of it.

They ain't just saying, you just can't use it.

They got rid of it, covered the cameras up, said to hell with what the contracts say.

Nationally roughly 200 cities have ended their flock relationships outright Milwaukee is reforming not exiting So I'd like to understand why we just don't exit So our mirrors on words Acknowledge the tension directly you don't just throw the baby out with the bathwater

and not allow the use of technology, but you also work to make sure that there are some restrictions.

We got to get into that.

We're going to have to talk about that a little more.

We're going to need some more information on what that means, what that looks like.

Does limiting access to just supervisors and narrowing the use cases actually fix the trust problem?

Or does the fact that misuse happened at all mean No policy short of removal will fully satisfy residents who've lost confidence in the system and we didn't just lose confidence because They got these flock cameras now.

It was already

I don't know where you've been, but it's always been a little bit of tension.

So could you imagine how that tension heightened after?

You realize that you could just be flocked.

By entire police district.

I wonder if these cameras was up while I was running for the fourth automatic district.

That's how it was following jazz, you know what let me chill before They gonna be down in City Hall like they're on to us.

They know what the flock is going on We've been on to y'all y'all cheapest here We just having fun man we having fun highlighting What goes on

You just average citizens paying taxes.

Sharing the news, controlling the black narrative.

So what I will say is.

Shouts out to Chevy for at least taking some steps, right?

But I think there's more steps that need to be taken.

There's more steps that need to be taken.

Because.

How can I trust that supervisors won't then?

Just become the ones misusing it.

How do you restore trust?

I think it was an interesting call to even bring that technology in.

In a community that already had trust issues.

And.

Not to mention trust issues.

Then we have like a failing grade in what the independent investigation turned up for police department and the improvements that they needed to make.

So I don't understand how we give them more access.

It's like, man, finish your vegetables first before you ask for some juice.

But it's been a great, great day y'all.

It's been a great day.

Miss Jazz Tyler is up next with the tap in.

It was a great four hours too.

I'm off be dry by the end of the last segment, man.

We had a good day y'all.

We talked about all types of things.

We talked about jailing Brown, exposing the NBA, staring players to not invest in the communities they came from.

Then we talked about 10 years today.

Kaepernick took a knee based off of what somebody else told him to do, to show respect.

And he got blackball for it.

This is America.

We talked about overhauling these flock cameras.

We also talked about kangaroos and oxtails.

Y'all got to chill out.

And then we also talked about powernomics, group economics.

So tomorrow when we come back, we're gonna go a little bit further y'all.

I had a good time Make sure y'all stick around for jazz Tyler the grapevine Not the grapevine.

I'm super child.

This wraps up the grapevine Stay tuned for jazz Tyler and the tap being up next on the award-winning 1017 the truth It is your boy Ray Nitty shouts out to DJ brother Z held it down with the production and sound we out y'all