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We hear we hear right now in this moment and we have our nominee.
We have our nominee for governor on the Democratic side, who will be facing Tom Tiffany.
Right now they're doing a unity, unity tour where Francesca supporters, Brennan supporters, Kelda supporters are going around and just unifying the base, the Democratic Party, the state in getting behind David Crowley.
If you listen to the lunch break show in the past, you would know that I've always said that this was my real underdog story.
And I piggybacked off of something a colleague Sherwin Hughes was saying on his show.
He had his thoughts on the underdog story, which would have been in his case, Joe Brennan, he was making a case for Joe.
And I could have understood it.
I understood where he was going with it.
But just the way that I'm built, you know, I just couldn't I couldn't just give in to that just yet.
I believe differently.
I believed differently, man.
And sometimes when you when you really, really, really believe in something, you have to have faith.
You got to have both faith and belief.
And I believe that I believe Crowley was the best person to be governor from the start.
I believed he was the one that had the resume.
I believed he was the one that had the relationships.
He was the one that had the experience.
He was the one that had it all when it comes down to running large government.
He was the only one.
The others couldn't, they just didn't have the resume, my opinion.
And I think my opinion is based in a lot of facts.
If we just pull up.
The list of things that each has accomplished and you could do your own research.
You could do your own research on it But I think I have to Acknowledge when I'm wrong.
I was right about a lot.
I Was right by a whole lot But I ain't mad at acknowledging what I was wrong at what I was wrong at Was the response that I was expecting to get from
Hong supporters because of I based that expectation on what I saw during the actual race the comments that people were leaving on other people's pages and It was like unprovoked.
It would be like people that ain't even your friend on Facebook And they I don't know how they found you but now they over here just insulting and everything.
I'm like what is
I don't want to align myself with this type of person if this is who the potential nominee was.
So to see them say, yeah, we're going to rally around David Crowley.
I was like, well, damn, I was wrong.
And I could admit when I was wrong, I could admit it.
It was a very, very, very, very close race, extremely close race.
Crowley won by less than half a percent.
Less than half a percent.
And if we remember, there was a new rule that was put into place by Scott Walker, but I'm not mistaken.
This was right before he lost.
And this rule actually turned out to be a rule that was used against him that caused him to... The reason why we got the great Tony Evers now.
Uh, the rule was, uh, an election had to be the race had to be less than 0.25% less than a quarter of a percent of, uh, within each other.
And then the loser would not have to pay for the recount, right?
And if it was a greater percentage than that, then.
they would have to pay for a recount.
And I'm going to assume that either they probably didn't have the funds for a recount because from what I heard Francesca ran out of funds in this campaign, she took a lot of small grass root donors.
If I'm not mistaken, she didn't have too many large big money donors that supported the campaign.
So they had a lot of
You know, people that's giving you $5, $10, $20 and so forth.
So I think that was.
It was good to see.
It was good to see people talking about rallying behind David Crowley.
And.
You had a couple of people in the race that still took votes.
And if you listen to Sherwin's show today, I think he broke it down pretty, pretty.
Amazing, actually, in my opinion, how he broke down the significance that Keldor Roy's played in her race.
She.
He was saying she's not the reason that Hong lost the race, but she definitely impacted how many votes Hong actually got in Madison.
And if you look at the race, Crowley got 37% of the votes in Madison, which was huge.
That was huge.
But then you have Kelda getting a certain percentage of the votes in Madison, which opened the door to, you know, kind of even the playing field because from what the data was showing, a good percentage of Kelda supporters would have.
possibly went to or most likely went to Francesca.
So.
We was in the production room talking.
And it was like, damn.
It's Keldoroy is the white Mandela Barnes.
Just getting away and take votes away from folks and, you know, change the outcome of things.
If you look at the numbers, I think it was a good comparison.
But like we said, this was the real upset because every poll.
Every poll had him down.
I think at one point he was even polling at like what, 4%, 5%, 7%.
I don't think he ever polled more than 15% in all the polls.
That's why I tell people all the time.
Don't call me talking about poll numbers.
Don't call me talking about poll numbers.
They didn't poll me.
They didn't poll you.
They didn't poll anybody that we know that are that is going to be a supporter of the person we're supporting.
So why would I listen to these poll numbers if they.
833-212-1017.
Have you ever been polled?
That sound crazy.
Paws.
What do you mean by that?
What I mean by that is, has anyone ever taken the time to call you and ask you who it is that you're voting for?
That's what polling is.
Speaking of polling.
Be going to Poland for my sister when coming up soon So yeah a 3 3 2 1 2 10 17 that's the number to dial a text I want to know have you ever been pulled and what was that experience?
Oh my god We gonna work on this one have you ever gotten a call about who you're supporting for voting I Want to know what that experience was like
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We talking about the governor race, the outcome of the race.
These next few hours, we'll be talking about what's next for home.
Want to talk about how close it was and why every vote counts.
Then it was like this voting.
Like counter snafu that happened I learned that word in our truth company means It was like when you come across a snafu you just got to improvise oh Man shouts out to the truth family yet.
It was this uh counting snafu that happened when something about
15,000 ballots needed to be counted differently because they just downloaded the audited the audit version or something and not the actual count And they had to like drive to someplace and come back I'd have been pissed if I was home.
What y'all doing in that damn van, man?
What's going on, man?
Don't go anywhere y'all will be right back with Ray nitty on the award-winning one-on-one seven the truth What up y'all, it's your boy Ray nitty
Holding it down right now on the grapevine.
I'll be with y'all for like the next two weeks man.
Holding it down going through a couple little changes on the grapevine Shouts out to brother Menon, man We talking about this election y'all We talking about how close it was why every vote matters What's next for home I Was right about a few things I was also wrong about some things
And I'm, you know, can't just be loud and right and then when you're wrong, you hide and get silent.
So I'm not going to do that.
They talking about fasting.
Y'all on the fast.
I'm fasting, too.
Just not right now.
Yeah.
Man, 833-212-1017.
is a number to dial.
I would like to know, have you ever been polled before?
And what was that experience like?
All right.
Crowley is the Democratic nominee.
He will be facing Tom Tiffany in November.
Tom Tiffany is backed by Donald Trump.
They also say Tom Tiffany is an election denier.
That's like the buzzword in the political circuit.
So I just like to say Mog.
I can't say that I could say Mark.
It's not that bad.
Look up the definition.
I think.
Doing the primary.
I think it was.
Joel wasn't I don't think he like initiated this comment, but I think he was like baited and asked this question was Wisconsin ready to elect a black governor or a Woman as governor And I think the result showed they definitely wanted
the black man or the woman more than the white man.
That's just what I thought.
Joe had four percent.
So I wonder, like, I would like to get his his take on that on saying that now.
And does he still believe that?
Or does this primary show different?
Does the does the primary show different or the primary is just one half of it?
And that's not the full story.
I always believed that Wisconsin was was ready for different.
They just needed somebody that they could actually believe in.
That's what I think.
That's what I thought.
And I stuck with it and.
Here we are.
It was a lot of tests going on, right?
Crowley had to.
to win over a bunch of different folks.
So we want to talk about how does he win in November, right?
We all know Tom.
Tom Tiffany is a conservative and rural northern Wisconsin.
He got the Trump endorsement and it's going to be very different than the Democratic primary field.
Crowley pitched himself throughout the primary as a candidate
Best position to actually win in November.
Arguing his more moderate profile plays better statewide than Hong's Democratic Socialist platform would against a Trump backed Republican.
And I believed that.
I believe that.
I do believe that.
I think.
This is just what I think this is.
Nothing I have factual I ain't do no digging or no research that supports this claim But I just feel like as great as some of the things Democratic socialism and socialists speak about as Great as some of the things are that they do speak about I do feel that There is sectors of Wisconsin
that are afraid of that more than they are afraid of a black man running for governor.
That's just my thoughts.
Sounds crazy, but that's just what I think.
And here is a case of it, right?
One Madison Democrat who voted for Crowley, this man was 79 years old.
79 years old, retired professor David Zimmerman.
He said explicitly that Hong's chances against Tom Tiffany worried him a lot.
And that was the exact electability argument Crowley will need to win over Hong's base.
Because he's going to have to pull some of her supporters in order to really bring this home.
Now our their supporters just gonna stay home and and and not participate or they gonna get behind him He's gonna have to figure out a way to Get a good percentage of her supporters and increase black voter turnout But Zimmerman said he feared That she would have been hard to elect
And I think a lot of Wisconsin actually felt that same way.
But.
Like we said, they on a breakfast right now, they on a tour, they doing this unity tour, right?
Both Crowley and Hong emphasized party unity is essential.
And this is why this is where politicians, I think they are better humans than me.
Because I can do it.
I heard what you said, I seen what you said.
I can't just let that slide and go have pancakes with you.
David said on August 9th, our ultimate goal is to make sure we don't have a MAGA extremist occupying the governor's office.
We got a picture of everybody at the breakfast, the Unity tour kicked off.
If you're watching on YouTube,
Brother Z is going to load that up.
And it was all there.
The first picture I saw was not.
It didn't have everybody in it, but this one had everybody in it.
They all was there, even some extras.
I didn't even know who all these extra people was.
But you got Kelda in there.
I see.
Oh, I see Tammy Baldwin.
Look at Crowley at the head of the table.
I see Fran.
I see Joel.
Some of the other folks I can't necessarily make out, but I assume.
You know, they part of the party.
So I think that's it's amazing to see all of these folks supporting.
I'm interested to know, like, what does Fran do next from here?
What's next for Fran from here?
What was
she doing before
So does she technically still have that job?
She almost had me.
I ain't go a lot.
bro.
She almost had
I'll say this now, but I never would have said it publicly, right?
She was always my number two pick.
But I just felt that.
I wanted her.
I wasn't just going to give her my vote.
You had to do something to earn it.
Give the low hanging fruit.
And I felt like nothing was being said that directly spoke to Wisconsin and black families and Wisconsin being one of the worst place to raise black families.
So that's why I was like.
I'm not just going to just jump on this bandwagon because this stuff sounds good.
And then I. The other thing that made me hesitant as well, because one, I'm always going to go with gang.
You feel what I'm saying?
Let's start there.
It ain't no wavering when it comes to, you know what I'm saying?
But.
I'm just like.
Let me do some more research there because everybody I asked, you know, I had to be the one that explained what has Crowley done.
Okay, he's done this.
He's done that.
He's lowered the opioid crisis.
He's lowered the homeless population.
He's raised, you know what I'm saying, made affordable housing a thing.
All of these things.
Then I ask, okay, tell me what your candidate has done.
And it was usually met by, oh, you go do the research.
You should go find it.
It's on her website.
You should go check to her.
And then I started seeing that as a pattern.
And I'm like, these people can't tell me nothing about what she's done.
So I had to go look.
And then I realized they couldn't tell me nothing because nothing was done.
And I understood the Republican.
led assembly and so forth.
But my simple way I looked at it is I cannot get behind somebody.
Who is not getting things done right now in the job that they have.
So I wasn't just OK with just handing over a promotion.
So yes, when Crowley fell out of the race, his name was still on the ballot.
And I felt like, yo, he is still the best person for the job.
His name is still on the back.
Mandela Barnes still almost got 40,000 votes.
I think he had like 34,000 votes.
That wasn't just all from early voting or mail in ballots or absentee ballots, rather.
No, that was people that still said, you know what, I'm checking his name.
and low key.
That may have helped Crowley out as well.
Because I'm willing to bet some of them folks might have supported Fred.
I'm willing to bet that.
We're talking about this election, y'all.
We're talking about where Wisconsin goes to next.
How does Crowley win Wisconsin?
When we come back after this break, we want to talk about how close it was and why every vote counts.
Don't go anywhere, y'all.
This is The Grapevine.
I'm your host, Ray Nitty, filling in.
What up, y'all?
Welcome back.
It's your boy, Ray Nitty on The Grapevine.
We talking about this election man on the award winning one on one seven the truth a 3 3 2 1 2 10 17 That's the number to dial.
Have you been pulled before?
We want to know have you been pulled?
What was that experience like?
What did they ask you?
And I want to know which neighborhood you lived in as well because where are they polling people?
Where are the people living at that they're polling?
so
We talked about how Crowley wins this governor race.
We also talked about what I was right about or what I was wrong about, what I was surprised about.
I want to get in right now to why every vote counts.
I want to get into that.
Because it's very very very important very important Don't let nobody tell y'all your vote doesn't matter.
I ain't saying it's the only thing But it's something that actually matters McGee awesome numbers we gave him a not too long ago, but we'll give him again Crowley's final margin of victory was under 1%
Meaning Hong was legally entitled to request a recount and chose not to.
So she could have got a recount, but like we said, I don't think she had the finances to pay for a recount.
A recount would have cost millions of dollars.
It would have cost millions of dollars.
But if it was within that .25% range, she would have been able to got a recount for free.
So Ending the race on her concession alone rather than you know, the legal challenge she did that so Roughly three thousand to thirty nine hundred.
I think we had the exact numbers.
It was like thirty eight hundred and fifty votes or something like that Decided who represents the Democratic Party for Wisconsin governor
in a state with millions of registered voters, millions.
That's an extraordinary thin margin.
And I don't know the exact numbers yet, like the black turnout or what that was like, but I really do hope we get those soon because I know people were saying all black people ain't going to turn out.
We ain't going to come vote.
And a lot of times we don't.
Because I just think we disengage and we disappointed in politicians.
We get disappointed so quick, so often that people have just became numb to some of the things of what politicians say.
And I think that's why something like Francesca was refreshing to some people.
Because the thought of universal childcare, universal healthcare, childcare, or...
uh, fully funding NPS.
These things sound good.
The banning of data centers or the moratorium of data centers, the one year.
People like these things, especially in rural Wisconsin.
So Crowley is going to have to find a way to, to look at some of the issues that was super successful for Francesca.
and figure out how he drive more voters out because every vote matters.
Like I said, under 3,900 votes, it was under 3,900 votes decided who represented the Democratic Party for Governor of Wisconsin.
So, for scale, a few weeks back,
Well from a few weeks back the 2016 Wisconsin voter ID law alone likely deterred.
It's just for some numbers, right?
17,000 to 23,000 people from voting in Dane and Milwaukee County.
Damn!
What you scared for?
Think about...
Think about just legal immigrants who have done the right thing and have secured the right to vote.
Now, all of this ice talk is around.
Think of how many of those folks didn't go vote.
A lot of people.
Because I didn't even like seeing these people at.
No, but they use these tactics to put fear in the atmosphere to get folks to not even show up.
That's crazy.
reasonable amount of fear, I guess.
More than 50 percent.
Hear me out now.
More than 50 percent of the people detained by ICE in Wisconsin.
I ain't talking about across the world or America.
I'm talking about in Wisconsin.
More than 50 percent of them.
doesn't have criminal records.
So they're just detaining people just because of where they from.
But when they paint the picture, right, they're like,
these immigrants were getting the most violent runs and rapists, and they're sending the worst of their peoples.
They're not sending the best.
They're sending their worst.
These not people that got no records or did no crimes, more than 50 percent.
More than 50 percent.
So every vote matters.
That's why these laws and games that folks are playing are trying to disenfranchise you from voting.
That's why they're trying to redraw maps all the time.
That's why they redraw maps.
That's why they want to do voter IDB.
It's like, I get it.
People like, I ain't trying to deal with all of this nonsense to go cast a vote for somebody that's probably going to just be BSing us around.
So they're like, oh, I'll just rather just stay at work.
Rather just not participate.
We got Al on the line.
Al, how you doing, man?
I'm doing one.
Well, I don't know because I understand for the life of me why black people don't weaponize they vote.
Why y'all don't make demands?
the end with the migrants.
And here's another thing that irritates me.
People don't use common sense.
If the migrants is so bad, why is white men a number one leader in animal rape, child rape, forced rape, racism?
And this is it.
These are grown in-house.
Nobody use common sense.
They don't even question the fact on how is migrants born in these concentration camps with no kids and coming out with kids.
And that's not bad back to people.
I just don't understand why everybody's like, I don't know if people are mentally retarded.
I don't know if they got their head in the air or they just slow.
I don't understand why they don't ask these questions.
And it's right in your face.
The proof is right there.
But nobody seems to answer it.
Nobody look for it.
But you bring up Jesus Christ and what the Bible said and God said, you're going to hell.
Oh, we got to get together.
Oh, I'm gonna be there at three o'clock in the morning because I'm gonna move in a one bedroom high-end efficiency with a new wash machine.
But all the stuff you got power for and that you can control, you don't give two ungodly FUC.
You can add the other matter for me.
And then they wonder why they are where they are.
right in your face.
Have a good day.
Absolutely.
I agree with Al.
Common sense ain't common.
Common sense is not common.
But you know, they they would say, uh, needy like to get a community, a lot of passes and excuses.
But I'm going to just say this.
A lot of people just, in my opinion, this isn't an excuse.
I'm just giving the reason, I guess.
I guess that's what the excuse is, huh?
The reason for not doing so.
All right.
I guess I might be the king of excuses for people.
But.
Common sense ain't that common, man.
Because we have been tricked into thinking that our vote don't matter.
We let them trick us.
So now a large majority of us don't participate in voting.
When we see right now, I know for a fact, I know for a fact I got over 4,000 people on my Facebook or on my IG that didn't go vote.
Black people.
I know for a fact.
I know for a fact.
And it's not a knock against them, but it is a...
Let's get on board.
Let's get on the same page.
Let's fight for some.
Let's organize.
Let's weaponize our votes.
Let's go shake something up.
I'm telling y'all, these ornaments, they not winning with no whole bunch of votes, y'all.
This ain't no governor race where you need 200,000 plus votes.
I've seen an alderman win votes and they didn't even crack a thousand.
These not strong candidates.
People not just showing up in drones for these orders.
That's in these seats.
Bob in an essay for 20 years.
20 years.
And I'm telling you, I knocked on doors.
I talked to business owners.
They want to change.
But sometimes people are so afraid to change that they don't even act on it.
We'll be right back, y'all.
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Welcome
It's your
y'all, man.
We talking about this governor's race on the award-winning 1017, the truth.
Make sure y'all vote, man.
You gotta vote.
You gotta vote.
It's very important.
It is very...
Very, very, very, very important.
I don't know how else to say it.
Every vote counts.
Get informed.
Also get involved and get informed about the candidate.
That you support and stop just being misinformed about the candidate that you don't support.
Because y'all be so wrong about so many things.
Y'all be so wrong and loud on top of that.
I saw people saying Crowley was for data centers that wasn't true.
I saw people saying he was supporting ICE that wasn't true.
I saw people saying he wasn't for the $20 minimum, that wasn't true.
Get informed, don't get in your feelings.
Get out your feelings and get informed It's out there for you to do the research Just like everybody said I should go do the research the information is out there So when you talk about somebody ain't doing nothing that mean you ain't doing no research to go look at what they actually did Don't just make blanket statements and try to
Paint it as all somebody just voted for this person because they was black.
That's BS People voted for the most qualified candidate that actually got stuff done when he was in assembly and also when he was county executive Plain and simple he actually got things done for all people
And I will continue to bring it up.
And I'm only talking about because I just saw a comment.
And somebody, to continue, it would be black people too.
It'd be black people that be pushing this narrative that, oh, we only voted for this person because it was black.
Shut up.
Shut the hell up.
We voted for somebody who was the best.
qualified candidate and was actually doing the work actively, not just talking about all of these pipe dream policies that one individual have been working on for six plus years and couldn't get it done.
I keep telling you all one bill in out of 250 plus in six years does not equate to a promotion.
And you could use the excuse that you want.
Republican Land Assembly.
Crowley had the same Republican Land Assembly with 10 more Republicans in it and got five times the work done in half the time in office in the assembly.
Missed me with the whole, we voted for somebody because they black crap.
We voted for the person that was the most qualified.
That had the best resume.
that actually is doing the work right now.
Wisconsin has one of the lowest, if not the lowest homeless populations in the country under his watch.
We lowered our opioid crisis under his watch.
What else do y'all want?
I could keep going.
But we be so anti-black for some reason, I don't know why.
It's like we just, like, ugh, I want more.
I want more out of this black.
But we'll believe all the pipe dreams that somebody hopes that they could get done and get in line and support that.
But supporting something that somebody has not even done yet to this day, but they keep telling us for six years, they gon' do it.
How does that sound?
How does that sound?
Go look it up.
Go look it up.
Go look it up.
Every vote matters.
Get out your feelings and get informed.
Quit that stupid narrative that people voted for somebody just because they was black.
No.
That's not true.
We voted for somebody because they was the best.
And they just happened to be black.
And that's a good thing.
Because guess what?
The one bill.
That friend got through.
Guess what kind of bill it was?
An Asian bill that she got through for her people.
And that's fine.
That's what we supposed to do.
But don't tell me this person just going to be fighting for us because they haven't.
833-212-1017, that is the number to dial.
833-212-1017, that is the number to dial.
We got time.
We got security mic on the line.
Mike, how you doing?
Talk to me.
Man, I'm all right.
Man, you said it just right.
You know something back during the election.
If we would have just all voted.
Democrat and black no matter if you like to divide or not, we wouldn't be in this predicament.
We're in right now.
Crawley is a good dude.
I was working for the county down at the old belief building on 12th Street and I ran into him a few times.
He's a good dude.
He know what he's doing.
And we say a lot of people calling in the T.O.
show.
What's this one lady named?
She always would talk crazy about this guy, uh, white widow.
Yeah.
Every time she would call the show, she would always talk negative about quality.
He ain't doing this.
He ain't doing that.
Oh, you go down to the building, you can't find him and all this and that.
Come on.
The man is busy doing the work for our people.
You know what I'm saying?
And I'm so glad he won.
I thought the Francisco was going to win, but I cast my vote and it was definitely for quality quality.
And I'm so glad he.
He pulled the victory off.
Now we got to take out the election in our guide that he's going to be facing in November.
We Craig and Day Day.
So just kick back.
You heard what happened to the last security guards.
That's my favorite movie, by the way.
But yeah, man.
We got to stop that.
We got to stop it.
We got to stop it.
I would hear people say, oh, we just voted for this person because they was black.
But you making a case to vote for somebody who ain't never been to your black community You sound crazy to me This person ain't been to your black community until it was time
to go to Alice garden And even then they went during the day come on
We got to stop that narrative.
It's a poisonous, terrible narrative.
Stop limiting our good politicians that's fighting on our behalf to, oh, they're just getting in because they black.
No, stop that.
We already have to deal with the fact that black and brown people have to work 10 times harder to prove that they are more than qualified for some of the positions that they in.
When we constantly see others with way less qualifications, always getting just handed the job.
But we don't got a problem with that.
Oh, it's, I know what you're talking about.
You just gotta see it online.
It's just on my timeline, things that I see.
I hear people say, not everybody.
So I hope I'm not sounding like I'm talking about our entire community.
A selected few.
A selected few, Babar.
A very selected few.
Every vote counts.
We should be thinking about what voter registration look like right now.
We need to be registering more people to vote right now getting them ready for November Getting them well informed for November That's what we should be doing right now We need to be be preparing for who's going to be the next county executive Because you can't tell me he ain't gonna win governor
We want to talk strategy everyone's like all you need to quit being foolish and and get in line and support this person and stop all that foolishness And and and if we need to be strategic And the only strategy that was telling me is support the next black dude.
Oh We're gonna get a fully fund MPS Don't go anywhere.
Y'all will be right back with more the grapevine with Ray nitty