It’s in the Breath

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It’s in the Breath

The Grapevine with Maanaan Sabir · Thu Jul 30, 2026

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conversation by some fire.

Man, it's real life out here.

It's real life out here.

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I'm your host, Manon Sabir, and this is the Truth 101, the award-winning Truth Radio 1017.

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Man, fantastic.

Fantastic things that you do you guys doing out there.

I really appreciate what you got going on.

Oh man, this is crazy.

Wow.

Where do I start?

Where do I really, really start?

Everything today is one story with four faces.

Straight up.

Everything today is one story with four faces.

A black man walks up to the door with real power and the door closes.

That's right.

That's where we start.

We're gonna start right now.

Then I'm gonna show you why that keeps happening.

Today's show is about black men.

Am I too loud right now?

I'm not.

No, I think we need to be loud.

I think we need to be unabashedly loving towards ourselves and loud, for real.

Then I'm gonna show you why that I'm gonna show you why when we walk up to the door the door keeps closing He closed the door himself, you know, I appreciate that, you know, thanks for thanks for doing what you had to do to Progress your own agenda mr. Mandela Barnes, but you know now's the time to move on Now's the time to move on time time to walk out, you know reminds me of like

Politics reminds me of like the shotgun house.

Have you ever been to a shotgun house back in Mississippi or something like that?

Politics reminds me, you walk in and you walk right back out sometimes.

Sometimes the door, you can't even open up that back door.

That's when you stay in the shotgun house and eat grandma's pudding, eat the collard greens and macaroni and cheese.

Then when you stay and you eat that stuff, man, you find out that being close to your people

is one of the ways in which you're able to be a top of this whole entire thing.

So I'm going to show you a little bit of what's going on with Black Man straight up in this through line and what's going on in our society with Black Man later on today.

But first, but first, red hot, red hot, because I need you locked in, Mandela Barnes, Black Man who had a real shot.

real shot at the governor seat in Wisconsin.

From what I last heard, he was like second, whatever, you know, he was in the running just like that, gone.

And the reason why he gave up his seat or his, his, his run, you know, it, it's probably.

It's probably something that he, you know, this is something he probably made up.

I wish I could play it.

Can we, do we have that, that, uh, Zach, we got that pulled up.

We'll get it up later.

What, what he said, it was something off of Twitter.

We're going to pull it up.

But I'm a paraphrase and he said that he said that he wanted Wisconsin to, uh, he felt like it was time for the Wisconsin to.

come together to defeat the Republican Party, it's life or death, and it's time to, it's time to, you know, galvanize.

And, you know, you know, Mandela Barnes, you had your thing, you did your thing, now it's time to move on.

But I think the, you know, defeating the Republican Party, yes, we think it's life or death, but I think it's even more than that.

I think it's more than that right now.

I think it's galvanizing the black vote, the black vote.

Like I said earlier in these earlier topics of discussion in one of my shows, black people are the canary canaries in the coal mine.

You cannot run a campaign without understanding black, the black vote and hot and also understanding where black wealth flows.

If you don't understand where black wealth flows, specifically black wealth and then health, you're not going to win a campaign, especially as a black person running as a black person.

You're not going to, you're not going to win.

That's plain and simple.

If you cannot address black people as a, as a politician, if you cannot.

put those words, black and wealth in the same sentence as a politician, it is going to be hard for you to win.

Zach, do we have that Twitter piece?

Can we get that Twitter piece?

From

Mandela?

Yeah, from Mandela, when you get a chance.

We're going to pull that Twitter piece up in a few seconds, a few minutes here.

But I'm going to...

If you look, you listen to a person like Dr. Claude Anderson, Naim Akbar, people like that, they consistently tell you, Naim Akbar consistently tells you to control your moral compass as a black person, as a black man, as a black woman, control your moral compass.

Shahar Azad Ali says the same thing about black women.

And then Dr. Claude Anderson says, control the wealth gap, control your own wealth gap.

Capitalism, he said capitalism was and is one of the ways in which we can win this race.

It is, it was, he said capitalism before capitalism, it was mercantileism where people would create a product and be able to barter and or sell it plain and simple without the in between.

Now with capitalism, people are taxing those.

those items.

And that's how capitalism was created on the backs of black people being traded as chattel slavery straight up.

So if, if a person who is running a campaign cannot say black and wealth or black and financial health in their campaign,

You you are you already know That the canaries will start leaving they don't fly away.

We the canaries and I continue to say When we're the we're the people who are constantly We constantly have our ears to the streets.

We told people about Donald Trump We told people don't vote for this dude.

Don't vote for him people did

And guess what happened?

Guess what happened?

We already know.

We already know.

It's inevitable when we tell somebody to do something as a collective community, it happens.

Look at hip hop, look at music, look at basketball, look at sports, look at politics, infrastructure, inventions.

Look at that.

Things we all all you all you have to do is just look at the history and the history will tell you the history will tell you Very very honest Very honest, so I'm I appreciate we appreciate mr. Mandela Barnes from For you know standing up for his self No doubt about it.

Thank you for standing up for yourself

Thank you for, uh, defeat, defeat and stepping aside takes discipline.

Defeat and, and stepping aside takes discipline.

It does not mean, and he probably understood.

It does not mean that he is any less or any more of a person is reading the room.

We have this, we have a video of Mandela actually talking about him, his.

his campaign and his campaign being suspended.

Let's see what he has to say.

Cool

conversation with my staff.

Now we're incredibly proud of all the things that we've accomplished and all the resources that we have raised to spread our message, but it's become very clear who our nominee is going to be.

Now I said from the very beginning when I launched this campaign that the number one goal was taking on and defeating Tom Tiffany to deliver big wins for Democrats up and down the ticket.

And now it's our time to come together.

to focus our efforts on that one goal.

We have to do everything to be talented.

This is life or death for Wisconsinites who are losing their healthcare under a Trump administration.

People who can't afford child care.

The folks who are being squeezed by bills while the rich continue to get richer.

Now I got in this race because we're living in a rigged system.

The rich are getting richer while the rest of us are left scrambling for crumbs.

I know this firsthand and that's why I've always fought for better.

As a legislator, as an organizer,

as do the Lieutenant Governor.

Now, while they be suspending this campaign, I'll never give up my fight for Wisconsin.

I'm incredibly grateful for all the folks who joined this campaign, for the people who believed in me and this movement, knew that we had a real shot at creating opportunities through bold action to improve quality of life for every single person that calls this place home.

Now, we have to do everything we possibly can to defeat Tom Tiffy.

And that's exactly what I'm committed to doing for the next 96 days.

I appreciate it.

So there's two ways to see this.

And I want your take.

This is a sacrifice.

A brother putting on a mission over his own name, defeat the base, trust me, run with it.

That's a chess move.

That's a man who understands the assignment practically.

And this is the one that keeps me up.

How many times do our what do we watch our?

You know, sometimes strongest people or people who step out in the limelight Step to the edge of power and something moves them off the board Something moves them off the board You start good and I'm not just talking about this campaign.

I'm talking about in life in the politics you start good

Then all of a sudden there's pressure Sometimes it's pressure you can't see sometimes it's pressure you choose and After a while you got to ask is it always a choice?

Or is the game or is the game built so we never get quite Close to the gavel never get quite close to putting on a parachute We come back

I'm going to continue on.

This is very interesting.

I want to talk about Black Man healing.

Thanks, Mandela Barnes.

You let off.

Great homerun.

We're going to talk about Black Man healing the rest of the way, baby.

We'll get back in three.

Ain't no place for black folk here, man.

Promise land calling me,

man.

It's time we

go.

Hey,

man.

Hey, damn these chains, man.

Damn you, master.

You ain't my master, man.

You ain't.

You ain't.

Get the dogs.

Get the house.

We gonna have ourselves hanging in line, hanging in

line.

Ooh.

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We're back.

We're back.

We're talking about, and I'm glad you guys back here on the grapevine, picking some more grapes.

We're talking about Mandela Barnes out the race.

Mandela Barnes is out of the race.

I repeat, he is out of the gubernatorial race here in Wisconsin.

He said that we need to, he said progress is better done without him being a part of the information pool.

He also said we know who the nomination is.

So does he know something that we don't?

He knows, he knows something that we don't.

He knows something that we don't.

He sees where the money is flowing.

I think it's, you know, for me, I always say it's about the money.

It is about the cash.

And I think he knows where this money is flowing.

So we have to understand that if he knows, other people know.

And here's where, here's where I think everything, this connects to everything.

And I care about, I care about this show.

I really do.

I really care about this show.

Whether Barnes jumped or got nudged, or got nudged, carried that weight.

The weight of being the one who's supposed to make it all, make it for all of us, then letting go?

That's a load on a black man's soul that no one talks about.

We celebrate the climb.

We're the people who celebrate the climb.

We never ask what the, what the fall costs inside.

That's the healing conversation.

That's what moves our agenda forward.

Not just winning seats, but keeping our men whole enough to hold them.

Yeah.

Keeping our men whole enough to hold them.

That is the trick.

That is the trick.

We got to get past.

Come on, y'all.

Y'all, we got to stand up.

What did Nas say?

We got to replay that one.

political power without healed people.

In this case, political power without healed men is like a house without foundation.

You can win the office, but you gonna lose the man.

You can win the office, but you're gonna lose the man.

They love for us to think that progress is only on a ballot, and that's not the case.

Progress is a brother who can step back from a race.

Thank you, Mandela Barnes.

And not allow it to break him.

We don't want him to be broken.

We just need you to step aside for a minute, brother.

And it's okay.

It is okay.

You only got to step aside for a minute.

You just step aside, period.

We don't need you a part of the foundation.

Barnes said, trust him on this.

All right, cool.

Boom.

And we running with it.

We off to the races.

So, you know, was Barnes dropping out a sacrifice or a setback?

Did he, you know, does he really know, as Brother Z said, does he really know something we don't know?

We like, I'm going to go to the chat.

Jasmine said, hey, y'all.

Babe, I said, hello.

The Ron Taylor said, what do you mean?

We all know nobody is going to catch Hong.

Oh, this is going to be a good one.

This is going to be a good one.

This is going to be a real good one.

This is going to be a real good one.

Phone lines lighten up.

But before we go to the phone lines, just real quick, real, real, real, real quick.

I'm going to tell y'all at 2 30 we got.

Two brothers coming on.

It's a really personal, really personal segment that I got.

It's about black man here and I got two brothers who have went through way ups and way downs and not at this really solid level of life, very calming individuals.

So let's take some calls, take some calls.

What's up, winky blue.

What's going on with you got wiki?

Listen,

yeah,

along with whatever rumors or whatever Allegedly supposed to be coming out.

I think the brother Lost his some of his support as main donors.

See the main donors is the plot of the machine They they dictate who's going to and who's who they think is the best person for the job.

Yeah

So you may, I would like to know who his donors were.

He done already, he see where his donors are.

And where his donors went, that's where the money

went.

So it don't make no sense to even get in the race, really, unless you're going to be peddling around here almost on a shoe-shrank budget deal.

Unless there is some real damning information outside, you know, some other stuff, you know, taxes or something like that.

But in reality, man, we got to realize something.

We do not know these people.

I don't know Mandela Bob.

I don't know the Asian lady.

That's who they probably gonna put up there.

The Asian woman.

But I don't know the other white girl.

You gotta look like she might gotta run, too.

The thing is, we don't know these people.

And right now, our future is a state that you are a homeowner.

You

own your own

house.

Anytime a man sign in, I said this yesterday, and I'm gonna keep pushing that.

Because I got to get it to my people if you

that in love with

a party to give away your house your real estate buildings For some people that you don't even know you dog on need to lose everything you've got because the other boy on the other side is going to Get rid of on day one That tax increase

that's

saying nine dollars for every hundred.

So if your house is a hundred thousand dollars That's a nine hundred extra dollars.

You're gonna be bad if it's two hundred thousand

Just what?

That's 1800.

You're going to be paying.

Check this out.

And it's going by the city assessment.

It's not going by a real appraisal.

So the city has gotten all of our stuff so high appraised, I mean, assessed that it's going to hurt you.

So we've got to do the right thing.

You got a house, don't you?

Yeah.

Hey, look.

Okay, you got one that you're gonna leave to your kids or something God forbid anything should happen.

I got stuff

to leave to the kids.

Yeah, man.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Oh, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

Listen, check it out.

He signed a 400 year increase tax increase.

I mean every year after 2020, 2026, 2027 taxes is gonna start going up every year.

We'll see it on our bill this time.

Hey, brother, that ain't that's just a school board.

That ain't including your city taxes.

Listen.

You county taxes.

Listen, they're about to, listen.

That along with inflation, it's about the rec shop.

That along with inflation is about the rec shop.

Winky blue, thank you so much, man.

I really appreciate it.

We gotta, we run out of time, so we gotta get to our real quick.

So please keep calling it out.

What's up, man?

Well, first

of all, if they gentrified your taxes gonna go up anyway, okay?

And number two what's the sacrifice?

He knew he wasn't gonna win anyway, and he should have never jumped it in and furthermore He was

gonna win.

Did you hear what he said on the uh on the gubernatorial debates?

He was coming after people sitting the zingers like Well,

you know, okay, well you were you keep on thinking that but

He should have never jumped in anyway, because he ain't never been for blacks.

And where we are today, they don't care.

Say what?

He's black, Al.

All black people for black people.

Yeah, but just know that, know the hell and not.

But what I'm gonna say is, the people that's in position of power today don't care about you being healed, okay?

And the reason why they in position, because

Black people choose to cower down to whiteness.

And white people don't like nothing filter.

They like it clean.

They like it nice, dirty and raw.

And that's how they give it to black people.

And black people... That's not how it was raised,

though.

In Europe, they had toilets and poop coming out the back of their homes.

And it was black people who taught them about how to clean in this and not to get sick.

But where we are today, if black people will stop being so kind and stop walking on a kippy toast and give it to them raw, we wouldn't be in this position.

So where we are today, yes, give it to them raw.

White people gonna tell

you in

any way, in any way you want to.

And they gonna let you give it to you all.

Black people gonna be like, well, let me, I wanna speak to you.

No, I don't wanna speak to you.

I'm gonna tell you how I need to tell you.

And black people don't do that.

Listen

to how they do religion.

Bye.

Thank you, Al.

Hey, y'all, when we come back, we gonna talk to two brothers.

We gonna talk about this.

We gonna talk about black man being healed in the face of the most, being the most dangerous thing in America.

This ain't angry.

We're not angry.

When the pressure comes on, guess who they run to?

You got it.

Guess who they run to?

You know.

We're gonna have Jamil Tyler and Jess Breathe, Brother Lou on at 2.30.

2.30, three minutes.

Stay tuned on the grapevine.

We're gonna pick these grapes.

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on King.

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Welcome back.

Welcome back to the grapevine.

I'm your host, Manon Sabir.

Yes.

And we are about to pick some more grapes.

We are about to pick some more of these beautiful, wonderful grapes that are coming off the grapevine.

And you are tuned in to the award-winning Truth 1017 radio.

And I tell you, man, we got some, it's a fire show, fire show.

And we go, we are, we are a very interesting group of people who are very interesting group of people, whole, healed, powerful black men.

I think that is the most dangerous thing in America.

That is the most dangerous thing in America.

We're talking about today.

That is the most dangerous thing in America, not an angry one, a free one, not an angry one and a free one.

And the closer we get to the hole, the harder the pressure comes.

Barnes was at the door.

Mandela Barnes was at the door.

He was at the door.

True, you look apart.

I mean, I don't want to say it, but you know, barring his name at his title as a black man, he did he puffy.

Had had the everything at the door am I right or wrong?

Same pattern different altitude Same pattern different altitude You get you they get so high they get right there and then bow and If has anybody ever went skeet shooting it's because skeet shooting Skeet shooting is one of those things where you know, yeah, they put this these plates

in a, in a loader, in a skeet loader.

And then they, they pull it and the plate goes in the air and you take your, your gun or your rifle,

you,

you aim, aim, aim, track it.

And then you pull, you pull the trigger.

This is what, this is what is happening to black men.

This is exactly what is happening to black men, black men, the lowest life expectancy of anybody in this country.

This nation is literally hard on our hearts.

It's hard on our hearts.

I'm not saying that some people aren't guilty.

I'm not saying that, but the innocent, the innocent, what I'm saying is you, we have to watch the pattern.

How fast is a culture that crown these individuals, these black men?

How fast is that culture?

to bury them in the same speed that they crowned them.

How fast?

It's very fast.

So the message, this message isn't for just the black men at the top.

The black man at the bottom is for people who are right at the edge, who are right at the edge.

And sometimes they cut, they cut the little string off to not allow people to pull down on a.

Coat tails.

Oh, we know who those people are.

So.

Y'all, I got some, I got some very, very great news, very great news.

I have some two individuals that I've been knowing for close to 30 plus years, and we've come together to pull each other up.

They all got strings.

on the back of their coattails for me.

They have helped me out through many, many difficult moments.

There's a black man's healing call been on for three years.

We call the black man's healing call and we've all been through a number of things in our, in our lifetimes just to come together because a friend of ours by the name of Dale was killed.

Two of my guys is seven of us two three of us are on this call right now And I'm we're gonna I'ma let my listeners in on On learning what black men black men's healing is all about on a regular basis First I have Jamil Tyler from Texas

originally out of Gary, Indiana by way of Milwaukee or Milwaukee by way of Gary, Indiana.

And also brother Lewis, just breathe universe.

My brothers, what's up?

Peace,

peace.

Thank you for inviting us home, man.

Appreciate

it.

Man, I appreciate y'all, man.

I really do.

We were scrambling to get it on,

but we got it

on.

Talk

to me

talk to

me talk to me y'all I want to know and we're gonna jump right into it because I understand that we We are a group that we look towards the we look towards the Life of people and not the death we look to the top of individuals whenever we are speaking life into those into people

We're speaking life to the to the degree that they can actually see themselves in their future, not in survival mode.

Am I right?

Yes, indeed, brother.

You you hit it on the head, man.

That's that's what we do, man.

We work to get to the best version of best iteration of the best.

of who we know we are designed to be.

And, you know, we support and pour into each other and love one another to that standard.

And that's what, you know, our call is, the brother's healing call, that's what we come together to do every Sunday for over three years now, you know, to really look at the best parts of ourselves.

Yeah.

Brother Lu, what was, and... Yes, sir.

What was your impetus

We're coming into the into the brother hitting the call.

I know mine But what was yours?

I'm gonna be honest with you man, and I'm so proud of you man for this radio show this this This beautiful platform that you're doing here celebrating you also Coming together and seeing you

you know, do what you do through the juice kitchen, through all of the wellness offerings that you have, man.

I would be remiss if I didn't say that first, you know, so thank you for having us.

Appreciate

it.

I think what really struck me, man, with coming back together with my brothers from over 30 years ago was this opportunity for what our name suggests, right?

A brother's healing collective.

It's like healing one another.

Just with our presence and us reflecting so much back to each other what I was sharing with Jamil maybe last week or so was like How do our brothers we get to see this beautiful reflection of one another?

It's like I see you went on and I get to see myself You know in the the wellness juice kitchen aspect of myself.

I get to see my brother Jamil and that

beautiful version of who he is as a community leader, as an educator, as someone who puts out, you know, beautiful knowledge into community.

So I think what really got me, man, was when I walked through that church, it was at the funeral of Dale, and I sat next to my brother, Jamil, and it just felt like I was at home again, you know, with my brothers.

And seeing you, man, and being with you all, it just...

It brought me back to the essence of what it means to heal as a collective, how to go back and look at ourselves in reflection as well.

So that's what really got me, man.

And I'm so excited, man, to be here with you and to meet my brother too as well.

So this is what we're going to do.

Tell me real quick in a 30 second form, Jamil, why we came together and then for this next, the last part of our segment from

till about three.

I want to give people the opportunity to see how we conduct our, conduct our, um, our sessions, our healing sessions, because I think this is the, this is one of the more important pieces of people understanding what black men have to do in order to heal.

And it may just be a microcosm, but in this part may save somebody's life.

Can you tell how?

how we came together and then we're gonna go to break in about a minute.

Okay, yeah, real quick.

We started off 30 plus years ago as a group of young brothers and created the grassroots leadership network.

Just a bunch of brothers coming together to do some good in the community.

And we were pretty much bonded since then, although many of us went our different ways and we all were living our different lives in different parts of the world.

And then once our brother Dale was murdered in Milwaukee, we all came back to the funeral.

And from that moment forward, we realized that even though we had been apart for a long time, we still had work to do.

The first order of business was for us to work on ourselves and one another, right?

So we decided we was going to put the call together and we were going to commit and consent.

and meet every Sunday for two hours and just hop on the phone and really just help build each other.

Many of us were going through everything from divorce to of course the loss of our dear brother and you know just so many life transitions but realizing we all needed some type of healing man.

We all needed some kind of support in that healing process and the healing journey and pretty much man we've been

And that's that's pretty much all happened

and you you mentioned Dale and just real quick I'm gonna give the listeners a little piece of Dale Dale was you know also a brother of mine He was older brother a lot of the lot of the brothers in our healing collar older than me I usually kind of find myself in this this particular fact frame where I'm always the youngest out of all my brothers, but also I found

that

little brother all the time, but I also found that with Dale The and one of the other reasons why we also think we

felt what like we needed to heal was cause Dale was, Dale was shot and the person that, that shot him, uh, he, they, then him and his friend went back to basically playing video games and we're going to discuss that later on, but not right now, but this was, um, trauma.

Yeah.

We, we, we look to into trauma for ourselves in order for us to heal also.

So we're going to take a break on the, and we're on the grapevine.

We're going to take a break.

We're going to get to, uh,

our healing journey.

We're going to give you guys a microcosm of what healing for black men looks like.

And then we're going to continue on this black man's healing journey after our brothers leave at three o'clock and see what, uh, see what we can do in Milwaukee to continue our healing journey when we can come back in three

minutes.

Yes, yes, yes.

Glory.

Every day has to be glory.

Every day has to be glory.

Welcome back to the grapevine.

I'm your host, Manan Sabir.

And we're discussing on the award-winning Truth Radio 1017.

We're discussing black men and black men's healing.

We have on the line two of my dopest, longest running friends, brothers, Jamil Tyler and also brother Lou.

Today is very unconventional because

we're moved to to help people heal and For a few minutes, we're gonna take a take a step back Few minutes.

We're gonna take a

step back.

We're gonna allow people into our black man's healing and I want to start off with saying I really appreciate my brothers, but now we're gonna give you guys just a brief very microscopic look at

Black men and healing.

We have a few minutes before our segment is out.

Who wants to go first?

Brother Lou, Brother Jamil.

We're

going to lead into our segment.

So I'll take the lead for one particular reason brother Menon and that is to do something that we always do to start our calls off We typically start every call off with a prayer.

Yeah, and and some breath work like some some breathing So I'll ask you brother.

Have you have you taken a deep breath for yourself today?

No, I haven't

Yeah, yeah, so even for your listeners, right?

I think it's so important man that like we live in this busy

chaotic world sometimes where it's always moving it's always going and we're always encouraged to just keep doing but where do we actually go to pause to just breathe and to reset so I'd like to do this real quick man let's take three deep breaths in together the first breath we take yeah let's take it in for acceptance let's take a deep inhale and then let's exhale that out with a lot of love

Yeah, accepting everything that brought us here today on our journey Right and just the deep breath of acceptance for everything and then let's take another one in for awareness.

Let's take a deep breath in The awareness of our thoughts our feelings and every sensation of our body from the crown of our heads to the souls of our feet let's release that Yeah

The deeper the breath the deeper the rest so let's take one final deep breath for the alignment of all of us Here and all of your listeners deep breath in And then exhale Yeah Because we are worthy bro, we're worthy and deserving of taking those moments to just refresh to reset and to reconnect ourselves back to the present

We get so busy into the next moment, Manon, into what happened over the weekend or last month or just last hour that we forget to be president right here in this moment.

So that's how we usually ground our brothers in, man.

And I wanted to just offer that same medicine to you today.

And that's why I took the lead.

So thank you, brother.

And I really appreciate it.

We lost brother Jameel.

I don't know where he went.

Is he still on Jameel?

Let me know.

I think sometimes is reception can be

bad.

Yeah, that's okay.

We're gonna keep working it until we come on back in.

That's right.

That's right.

So, you know, and then once we ask her after our breath work, after our breath work, then we go

into a

prayer.

We pray ourselves.

Or we pray and then we go into the breath.

Yeah, right.

Yeah.

So can we, can you?

Can you lead us into a prayer since Jamil is gone and people have always heard me?

Can you pray

a sentence?

Yeah.

We always do a very universal prayer, man.

Nothing over the top.

But sometimes we'll pray to al-Fatiha from the Islamic tradition.

Sometimes our brother may pray to Lord's prayer from the Christian tradition.

You know what I mean?

So today I'm just going to offer this simple medicine of...

of thanks and gratitude to our Creator and

to the

Most High for bringing us here together in this session.

And just, you know, allowing us to participate in our own healing, but also healing as a collective, reflecting back to our brothers, the essence of who we are on the inside.

And with that, I say, amen.

And I say, simple, simple prayer, just like that.

Yeah.

So whenever we, whenever we

After our prayer, then we start, we go into questions for our listeners.

We go into questions, we go into, you know...

Or we go into a check-in.

Or a check-in.

That's not forget about the check-in.

Yes.

We check in on each other's mental health and our emotional well-being and how we've been doing through the week.

And if some brother's got some heaviness, we may just stay there for the whole time.

Right.

So...

Yeah.

But it's...

It's very interesting that if you ask me that question today has been today I was able to take my myself to an appointment that I needed to heal for I needed I needed that

appointment to

help myself heal.

I needed that that appointment to

bring myself down because I was living at this place where I felt like I was red lining.

Right.

And, you know, whenever you have this level of red line, there's no other places you can go.

There's no other place except, you know, trying to inch everything at the top.

And then the drop happens and you have nothing left.

Right.

And so.

Yeah, today was was that day for me to be able to take myself out, take the the red line out.

And now I feel like

I

have the mental real estate.

Now I feel like I have the ability to recalibrate and understand who I am.

Right.

Yeah.

And because you because you created a little bit of space for yourself.

Right.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah, I did.

So yeah.

So what I want to do is when we when I leave out, when we leave out, we got about a minute.

I want you to sure to breathe us out and the listeners out.

And then what we'll do is we'll have a another schedule or a schedule call to to allow people, especially black men.

to understand what it is that we all do to make ourselves whole and healed.

Now that does mean that we're healed and the scab is already pat down

on

the skin.

That doesn't mean that.

It just means that we are aiming to be godlike.

Am I right?

Yeah, that's it.

That's it.

That's it.

That's a very, very good way of putting it, brother.

Yes,

sir.

Breathe us out and then we'll go to break and then We'll be done

Cool so together then let's do this when I'm we want to breathe in I'm gonna say breathe in and we're gonna take an inhale and when I say breathe out will exhale just very simple from the diaphragm not from the chest but from our diaphragm specifically That's where we digest.

So let's take it together.

Let's breathe in

grounding ourselves in this present moment, and let's exhale, breathe out, freeing our mind, freeing our body from just all of the busy.

Let's breathe in again, centering ourselves in this present moment, and exhale, breathe out, softening our shoulders, releasing attention from our neck.

From our from our body releasing that toxic energy.

Let's breathe in again Breathe in that peace and then let's exhale and breathe out And then let's bring those palms together brother and let's repeat these affirmations on the way out.

I am worthy I am worthy I am deserving I am deserving

And I am more than enough.

I am more than enough.

For this moment.

For this moment.

In my presence.

In my presence.

And me being present for myself.

Me being present for myself.

It's a gift.

It's a gift.

Put that right hand over your chest and the left hand on your diaphragm.

Let's take the biggest deep breath that we've taken.

Holding that in.

And then exhale, that's how we going out.

Exhale.

And on that breath, I thank you, Brother Lou.

I thank everybody for it.

Thank you, brother.

For being on this call and breathing with us.

And we'll breathe our way out and then we'll breathe ourselves back in at three o'clock in three minutes.

All right, y'all, we'll be back in three.

you

Welcome back.

Welcome back.

And man, I was just talking Sierra and she was like, she needed it.

And then Jazz was like, Jazz was like, is this a meditation hour?

Man, let's bring them back on so we can get some more meditation.

Other people were talking about a good breathing meditation.

We're going to hit the chat after I tell you that you are tapped in to the grapevine with your host.

That's me.

non severe.

And man, I, I feel like I'm, I'm floating on cloud nine straight up.

That was really good.

So the first hour we had, I feel like I'm talking like I'm talking in the library, but the first hour we had Mandela Barnes dropped out the race.

Mandela Barnes is gone.

It's out the gubernatorial race in Wisconsin.

And then.

We discovered that we needed to talk about black man healing and we had Jamil Tyler and also brother Lou from just breathe universe on discussing black man healing and how they can how we can as black men.

He'll do our breath through talking with each other through being vulnerable.

That's one of the best ways in which.

America.

There's one of the best ways in which America will be able to heal.

And we're going to lean into that for this next hour.

We're going to lean into that.

So I really appreciate you all hanging in there, kicking it with me on the award winning truth radio 1017.

So we did spend an hour on healing our men.

But let's talk about real quick.

Let's talk about healing the womb, the debt.

Because you can't heal what you won't pay for.

Right?

I'm pretty sure we all know that.

And America, America, America, you'll pay everybody else.

I'm saying you, not my listeners, but America.

We talking about America, the property.

The theory will pay everybody else.

You pay the Japanese.

You pay the Jews with the Holocaust.

You pay our native brothers and sisters.

You pay the 9-11 families.

You pay the Chinese.

You know exactly how to cut a check.

You know exactly how to cut a check when you decide.

the wrong when you're able to face the wrong when you're able to understand that maybe these people hold much more power than the people you actually owe the people that.

That are in that you know that you've wronged that people that help build this country.

Maybe.

Maybe just maybe you owe them just a little bit.

Just a little bit.

But why is our debt?

Why is our debt the only one that's suddenly too complicated?

Why is our debt so complicated right now?

400 years, slavery, black codes, Jim Crow, redlining, mass incarceration, every error reached in our pockets and past the theft.

down every error, every error, white families, look at white families, a boss, they're still, still to this day, six times the median net worth of black families.

So for example, a black family makes, you know, 45,000, you know, roughly six times that.

is $285,000.

What would you do as a black family, nuclear family, with $285,000 regularly, annually?

So this gap isn't based upon, isn't based upon happenstance.

It's not based upon happenstance.

It's not based upon, hey man, you know.

I just got the wrong job.

That is not the case.

We're going to talk about the jobs too, because majority of our kids should not be going to just real quick.

The majority of our kids should not be going to school just to get a job to make that 45,000.

They should be going to school to learn how to own the job, to learn how to own the job.

Look at Byron Allen, comedian, went from a comedian.

To a billionaire that should be that should be the norm Not a wealth gap a wealth gap families led by a black man black men a wealth gap six times less than our white counterparts 45 thousand dollars a year for families versus our white counterparts at

They're making 285,000.

The gap is not anything else other than policy.

It's not anything else other than policy, but it's not necessarily a policy that is just embedded in American politics and social cues and social norms and all the other stuff.

It's not just that policy.

It's our policy.

It's the black agenda.

It's the black policy.

It's us understanding how we have to be a part of the team.

How we have to be a part of the team.

You have to remember, even a person like Dr. Claude Anderson said, don't you don't have to worry about socialism and communism and all the other stuff.

But we do have to worry about is the fact that is if.

He literally said it's nothing wrong with capitalism because capitalism was built off our backs.

It started with us.

In the late 1500s, it started with us.

So why cannot we learn to use capitalism to capitalize while everybody else is doing it?

And we're running from it.

We shouldn't be running from it at all.

Look at Japanese Americans, 1988.

$20,000 a person 20 G's a person What they call it 20 stacks is that it jazz 20 stacks stack as a G Stack as a G Yes, and for and an apology they got written apologies Germany paid the paid Holocaust survivors we did too

Paid Holocaust survivors they've been paying Holocaust survivors since 1952 But the largest Holocaust in the world belong to the black people to the people who?

Who knew they listen they even knew during slavery?

This is this is the crazy part.

They looked at our skin.

They knew that they could take us Take us to this place called America or Europe

and know that we wouldn't run.

We couldn't go far.

You know why?

Because our skin was dark as gold.

Our skin was darker than theirs.

So we stuck out like a scarlet letter A. So this ain't, none of this is, none of this is fantasy.

None of this is fantasy.

We can still, we can do this.

They found the money to pay everybody else.

Look at, look at Everston, Illinois.

Everston, Illinois already did it.

Everton already did it.

They started paying people.

These little cities, California built a whole task force.

The state of California built a whole task force behind reparations.

Straight up.

So it's a choice that they keep refusing.

It's a choice that they keep refusing.

And I'm going to keep it real that these hard questions do exist.

who gets paid, lineage, race, you know, like, okay, we got that.

Recent immigrants, and is it a check or is it an investment?

Do they get paid in land?

Do we, you know, do we let the HBCUs govern it?

Business capital, you know, do we put it in the business capital?

What, like, we got those questions.

Because, you know, we already know a check if it's 20 Gs get spent.

But for me, ownership lasts generations.

If you own something, it lasts generations.

We were supposed to receive 100 acres, no 40 acres in a mule and $100.

That $100 today would be 10 mil, 10 million per person.

We were supposed to get $100.

and 40 acres and a mule and didn't receive it.

Didn't receive it.

At all.

So even in the yes, even in even if we get a yes, even if it was like, yeah, there's a real fight about how.

How would you build it?

How would you build it?

And if not money, then what?

If not now, then when?

They paid everybody else but us.

They paid everybody else but us.

And for me, if the money was mine, man, you know, I was spinning on healing.

Come on, y'all.

Come on, team.

Bring it in bring it in put your hands in the middle.

Let's go one on counter three boom break Let's go back to the locker room real quick.

We got it.

We got work to do My squad we going back to the locker room.

We got work to do.

We're gonna go underground We're gonna go underground When we come back we're gonna talk about some black billionaires and jail over family land what one woman did

to keep the generations alive in her family.

Y'all go.

Y'all got to stay around for this.

You on the award winning truth radio and you are talking with me on the grapevine.

We'll be back.

Welcome back.

Welcome back to the grapevine.

Welcome back to the grapevine.

I'm telling y'all.

This show has been about breathing, healing.

We talked about Mandela Barnes.

We talked to some brothers that I'm cool and comfortable with, discussing my vulnerabilities on Sundays.

Yes, now we're talking about how we're, how we're going to viscally.

Fiscally come up how we're gonna how we gonna spend this money if we if we get once we get them the the money Where does where does the if we got a Brinks truck?

How big do we want our Brinks truck debris to be?

Hmm how big do we want that Brinks truck to be?

We just spent

We spent on time.

We spent time on what America owes us.

Now flip it.

Let's flip it because here's the uncomfortable question.

What do we owe each other?

We got black billionaires.

I mean real life black billionaires now plural.

So while we wait on a check from the government that ain't coming.

What are the ones who already made it doing with it?

That's the that's the conversation That's the conversation already quoted Dr. Claude Anderson about this problem actually kind of stay in his lane too Because he always says that he had a quote and his quote was his quote was

That we got black billionaires and he knows a few that will take their black billionaire dollar and go he said go build a Go build a school in Africa somewhere in the jungle and won't spend a dime in the jungles of Their home country where they live and they wear they've made money at won't spend a dime

and be a couple of miles away from a mother and her son or kids having to use a stove to warm their house during the winter.

That's very, very interesting.

That's very interesting.

When your own house is on fire, where does the water go first?

Y'all hear me out.

Where does the water go first?

That's the whole debate.

Do our billionaires inspire the world or they just invest at home?

Do they inspire the world to invest at home?

And I'm gonna tell you a friend.

I'm gonna straight up tell you a friend.

I don't think it's either or, but I think we let them off the hook too.

We let them off the hook too easy.

We let them off the hook too easy.

And today we ain't doing that.

We not gonna do that.

We gonna keep them on the hook.

We gonna keep them on the hook.

Yo, we got a caller.

Ben, what's

up?

Listen to your conversation while you're monologue and I'm just sort of thinking about a couple

things.

the whole idea about reparation.

If you, I guess the question would be, how would you actually facilitate it?

You know, where would the money go?

It wouldn't go to specific individuals, but you figure whatever institutions that would be beneficial to the community as a whole would possibly be the best benefactor of that.

It could be education, it could be colleges, it could be startups, it could be business sorts of investments, it could be

other types of services that other people may or may not render to the extent that we would like them to do and we would do it ourselves.

So it would be interesting to see how that would happen because there's another view of this in terms of if you gave everybody cash and it was a one-time deal, would they do things that would be lasting or would we just blow it?

Well, stay on the line.

I don't have the answers and I'm just giving thought to the topic.

Maybe the answer is coming from people like you.

Maybe the answer is coming from people who are actually in the crux of the issue, right?

Maybe the answer is coming from individuals that understand where...

That we are the canaries in the coal mine.

They understand the technology They you understand it like you you get it Where where should this money go?

Where do you where would you do?

Well, where would the money go if the money came to you in $20,000 increments?

Well, I guess everybody's situation is different, but whatever I feel is that is lacking from quote-unquote society

Or you don't, you feel like you could do it better if you had an opportunity to do it.

It would provide the means for people who feel like they can make a difference to have the ability to actually make a difference.

You know, we typically show up, participate.

Participation is great, but that's not necessarily long standing because you do have, you know, you got to be able to scale and you got to be able to have things that bodies just in themselves can't provide.

And you need to have like some force multipliers.

I mean,

If you say we want to pull our money together, if you say we need $10 million,

we don't

have 10 millionaires in Milwaukee that could say we're going to give $1 million a piece.

But you

said we don't.

We said we don't have.

Let me put it this way, it's not public knowledge.

The people, you could have seen a long time long standing families.

Probably have it and we know who those people typically are but there's a lot of unsung people out here They got access to dollars, but they not necessarily in a limelight.

They don't necessarily want to be in the limelight But the point is They have you know, people say give money Well, not everybody can give money or give money to this to significant degrees case in point.

Look at it.

Look at the church churches is the one place that White people don't control black people money

right

and churches

need money to do some of what they do.

And we come up with that.

But again, you know, what if, you know, if I'm tithing like I happen to come into a windfall and I'll give a little something, why, why just give what I can every single time willingly?

It adds up.

Um, but, you know, they're limited to, I can say my congregation, maybe the people, the block that I, my congregation is all, maybe I have a school, maybe I have a daycare, maybe I have housing.

It all is over the map.

I guess what I'm getting at is, you know, you kind of went down the road of billionaires letting them off the hook.

Michael Jordan, Oprah, Tyler Perry, Byron Allen, 50 cent, Jay-Z, Beyoncé, all them people got money, right?

Right.

But.

You can't ask them to do what you won't do.

Well,

you know, I'm gonna talk about you figuratively

right

do you give?

Do you give up your resources or your talent or your support to people who are doing the heavy lifting and sometimes you have to look at that and go I Don't know if that's no people living what they're asking for

Well Just stay on this game one answer this question.

Are we living are we living in?

especially Black America, are we living in a individualistic society within Black America, or are we a part of a team?

Because that will tell the difference, right?

I think it depends on the circle you, it depends on who you associate with.

Hold on, hold on Ben.

Ben, hold on.

Is it the answer to this question?

It can't be both.

You can't be an individual and a team.

Now you can have somebody.

I'm just saying to you, you know, a team, if you look at this, who won the last Super Bowl?

Okay.

Who won the last NBA championship?

It was the New York Knicks, New York Knicks.

New York Knicks might have had superstars, but you can't play for people on, on a squad against five guys for 82, maybe a hundred plus games,

right?

That's true.

But that's the same token.

You got to have people, you got to have people who want to be part of the team and be willing to play their role on the team.

Yeah.

And we got a lot of, we got a lot of individuals on the, on the squad.

Exactly.

You can have, you can have, if you want a team, but you want five individuals who ain't thinking about the collective, they thinking about, I'm going to get mine.

Yeah, that's true.

So you got, you got to look at it that way.

And I know we just talked philosophically, but my, I guess what I'm saying is, is if we're looking for somebody to give,

My question is, what do you give?

And then how much should they give?

I can't tell a man how much he should give.

You

might say, well, they got you.

You don't know what they, you don't know what else they got to deal with.

And you don't know what else they give to.

All right.

Yeah.

Say that again, Ben.

One more time.

So you said,

so I'm saying some people, I can't tell a man what he should give.

Yeah.

And if he is given, that's his cause.

It's his resources.

And I may give to.

One cause I might not give you a cause.

I don't mean I I'm not willing to participate in uplifting the whole just meaning that I give the way I feel my interests are some people give the stuff that deal with business Development some people give the education some people give the people people social needs.

It's all over the map I just figured you need to find your tribe and be with those folks who are like-minded and do it, you know get in where you fit in and do your part and hopefully

As everybody's doing a part where they can make a difference, it impacts us as a collective.

But it's a philosophical question, and I guess the place you start is based on whatever resources you have in the groups of people you have a potential circle of influence over and causes that you believe in.

Are you putting in to make a difference?

If a lot of people just do a little bit, we'll get a lot done.

Too

many times.

You can't do the Big Bang.

That's not realistic.

That's right.

Hey, Ben, man, I appreciate it.

We're going to continue this discussion.

We're going to continue this discussion.

I appreciate it.

We're going to get to it.

We're going to go to break before we go to break.

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Yes.

So we're talking about a lot.

We've talked about healing.

We talked about Mandela Barnes dropping out the race.

We talked to two brothers that were able to help me heal myself.

And now we're discussing reparations, reparations from the perspective of black people.

Of course.

And I left off before we got to our break, before we went to our break, I left off and my question was, when your house is on fire, when your house is on fire, where does the water go first?

Where does the water go first?

That's the whole debate.

Do our billionaires, do our billionaires inspire the world?

Or do they invest at home?

Should they invest at home?

Do our billionaires should our billionaires?

How about this?

Should our billionaires inspire the world?

And that was based upon the question that or the topic that Dr. Claude Anderson said, Hey, we got people who are billionaires that will spend money on a school in South Africa, but they ain't spending money on the school in, you know, South Chicago.

I mean, think about it.

Think about it.

We're not talking about any one person you can I'm not discussing the per a person because it's not a person who has been being dollars.

We're not counting people's pockets But what they portray as being who they are we want to know What are they looking to inspire the world or they looking to invest in the home

that they have made their money in.

You got to think about it.

Water don't go outside with you.

Your house on fire.

The water don't go outside.

It come from outside inside and it stays in the house.

It stays in the house.

You can but you and here's the thing.

I really we all know this.

You can't eat inspiration.

You can't eat inspiration.

You can't buy.

a house with a magazine cover.

So let's talk who's moving the money right here, right here.

Robert Smith paid off an entire graduating class student debt.

Tyler Perry built the studio in Atlanta.

Magic Johnson, he put theaters and businesses all over wherever the United States.

David Stewart, if you don't know about that, worldwide technology, one of the biggest black owned companies in America.

billions and billion dollars, billions and billions of dollars in revenue, thousands of people on this payroll.

Hey, look, if you never heard his name, look him up.

He's one of the richest dudes in America, black man, killer Mike, you know, Greenwood.

Here's what Claude Anderson said.

And this is, this is the key.

A dollar circulates in our communities for weeks before it leaves.

in ours, in our communities.

Studies say that it's gone in other communities, excuse me, a dollar circulates in other communities for weeks.

In our community, a dollar circulates for hours and then it's gone.

Y'all think about that.

We got over a trillion dollars a year in spending power.

A whole nation's worth of money.

A whole nation's worth of money.

And almost none of it stays home.

Almost none of it stays home.

So the billionaire question ain't really about charity.

It's about circulation.

Are they building the pipes?

Are they really building the infrastructure?

Banks, factories.

grocery stores, media, all that.

We are supposed to own.

We are supposed to own that.

That all that stuff keeps our money flowing in our own communities, in our own hands, because it ain't about how many black billionaires we got.

That's if you can make, you can have everybody can be a billionaire, everybody in Milwaukee.

or half of us can be billionaires.

It's not about that.

It's about how many black-owned jobs, banks, blocks, factories we own.

If we are constantly pushing our dollars, bringing our dollars in and pushing them out, if I take this shirt off, this shirt right here that I have on, and I look at the tag, what does the tag say?

Made in China.

Made in China.

Made in Cambodia.

Made in Vietnam.

Made in Laos.

Made in wherever.

Made in wherever.

Made somewhere else.

And it has to go through so many barriers.

So by the time it's on my back.

Man, I gotta pay 50 bucks.

50 bucks for a t-shirt.

When in reality this t-shirt and I've seen it myself in China been to China I've seen I literally have seen this These shirts cost nothing Cost nothing I've seen I've seen actual Jordans being made Jordans Air Jordan shoes $20

20 bucks.

That's how much I pay for my Jordans.

You still have them?

I still got the Jordans.

I still got the Jays in the back of the car.

I got the Jays in the back of the car.

I came back.

I had six pairs of Yeezys.

Yeah, I would rather have six pairs of Yeezys than one pair of Jordans.

But look, I had the Yeezys.

I came back and I had.

All kinds of clothes.

Man, look, I went over there with nothing.

I didn't have to pack.

I didn't pack nothing.

I had just my undergarments, but then go over there and I came back with everything.

It's easy.

It's easy, y'all.

For real.

When we come back, we're going to talk about a young lady, not a young lady.

You guess she's older than me, but a lady who.

who chose ownership over over giving her land away and the price she paid to keep her land.

This is a really interesting story.

Really interesting story.

Stay tuned.

You're on the grapevine.

We'll be back in three minutes.

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Yep.

Yep.

One day I'm a freestyle.

One day I'm a freestyle.

I

don't think

you can.

You're going to catch it.

You're going to definitely catch it.

I ain't ready yet.

My brain still is not operating at its optimal level.

But I will freestyle for y'all.

I do more breathing.

After my, hey, you know what?

Next week, next week.

This official official y'all.

Oh, sorry.

Welcome to welcome back to the grapevine, brother Zach just distracted me.

Welcome back to the grapevine.

You don't know war winning truth radio.

The truth radio one on one seven and after my breathing session next week, I am going to officially freestyle at three o'clock on next Wednesday.

Next Wednesday, you will get the official.

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Oh,

man.

Yes, y'all.

Yes, y'all.

Listen, listen up.

Manan Sabiri is gonna freestyle three o'clock, three o'clock next week.

Next week, we're gonna... I'm getting this freestyle on.

After my breathing session, I'm gonna breathe into a freestyle.

I keep promising that I will and you will get it.

Really?

Two minutes of fire.

Two minutes of fire.

Now let's get back to my topic.

Listen y'all.

Jail over family land.

Jail over family land.

I'm going to add that to my freestyle too.

Jail over family land.

We just talked about billionaires and banks and black man healing and Mandela dropping out of the race.

I appreciate your Mandela salute to you.

Thanks for putting it to the side.

But let me tell you what the real wealth is.

And it ain't in numbers.

Ain't a number on the screen.

It's not, it's not a check that clears.

Real wealth is dirt.

Here in America, real wealth is dirt.

It's land you can stand on.

Land they can't unplug.

Land that's still yours when the power goes out and the bank fails.

And this next story though, it's about a.

It's about a sister that she understood that so deep in her bones, so deep in her soul, so deep in her spirit, she was willing to lose her freedom before she lose her ground.

And I'm picture with me.

Courtroom, a judge looks at a black woman dead in her eyes and gives her a choice.

Sign the land over or go to jail.

and everybody in that room is waiting for her to break, you know, or go to jail.

Oh man, to go to jail?

Nah, or go to jail.

They're waiting for her to break, to sign her land over.

And to be reasonable, this sister, she looked at Judge right back in the face, and she picked jail for literally two weeks, locked up, locked up over.

Land that's been in her family for generations over land that's been in her family for generations.

Now that's the news you want.

You want to put in your head.

That's the news.

That's the information you want your kids to hear.

And we go call that stubborn, you know, I think people, the people who are trying to take that land will call the stubborn, difficult, emotional.

All the taglines of people that are hurt in trauma.

Nah, you know what you call that?

You call that family.

You call that ready and willing to do things for your family that other people aren't ready and willing to do.

So she didn't fall for the trick.

She didn't fall for the trick bag.

She didn't fall for the trick knowledge.

She's the last line of defense.

in a robbery that's been running in this country for hundreds of years.

For hundreds of years, they've went, came over and taken this land.

Even their own people know it when they came over.

They said the first in this is history talking.

They said the first Europeans came here.

and wanted to assimilate with the native tribes.

They came here and wanted to assimilate with the native tribes.

You know why?

Because they recognize that their society was a society that was taking somebody else's land.

And not only was it taking somebody else's land, it brought disease and famine into that land.

And so they had people, not all their people.

Just a few very small percentage left their European confines of European American, not American at the time, European American, European confines in Virginia, wherever they landed and left.

They left.

Yes.

So they're not going to teach you this stuff and they're not going to teach you all this in school.

They're not going to teach you this stuff in school.

This is stuff you're gonna get on the truth.

I know I'll clip it.

I'll clip it.

Man, I was, that's a DJ, man.

He just missed that one.

No, that's a promo clip.

That's a commercial clip.

That's

better.

The air horn would have thrown it off.

Oh yeah, you're right.

You're right.

It's one generation out of slavery.

One black folks in this country owned somewhere around 15 million acres of that land.

We had almost one million black farmers in 1910.

We came out of bondage with nothing.

No 40 acres, no mule, no $100, no apologies.

And we still clawed our way.

This is inspiration, y'all.

But y'all can't, you can't build, you can't build capital off of inspiration.

I'm just giving you a little bit of inspiration though.

But you can't build capital off of inspiration.

You got to go do the work and that's what they did.

They didn't have the 40 acres.

They didn't have $100.

They didn't have a mule.

I had it.

True.

My grandmother, my great grandfather had to, had to.

I had to whoop the slave master's tail at the tail end of slavery.

My family's old.

He had to whoop this dude's butt.

Period.

He raised that whip up and my granddaddy took a sickle and said, if you do anything else, that whip came down.

Yup.

My great, I'm sorry, my great grandfather, my great grandfather whooped his, I can't say it, but gave it to him.

Him and the horse.

Him and the horse.

He was on that horse.

He gave it to him and the horse.

That's right.

Oh, donkey slave master.

And then he took his land.

My grandfather.

made the dude give the land up.

My great-grandfather, I'm sorry.

That's right.

My great-grandfather, my great-grandfather, was fought his way on my father's side, fought his way through reconstruction.

That's the reason why the majority of our people, he actually literally fought his way through reconstruction as a prize fighter.

That's the reason why a majority of my family have been fighters For generations Because of him Because he had to fight his way through Literally and they said he said if he would have lost he wouldn't have been able to go back home to his family Because they would have took them they would have did something with them Y'all get it we didn't we weren't

We didn't get no we didn't get an apology.

And we still clawed our way to own in a piece of this land.

To own just a piece.

So I'm not saying.

I'm not when people are trying to bully us off of land, trying to bully us off of the things that we own.

Don't leave.

Keep getting more.

Keep getting more.

We shouldn't just have five black billionaires.

We should have 500 black billionaires.

And they should be using that money to develop capital.

The capital streams here in America.

Take this land back.

Take your land back.

Let me breathe a little bit.

I need to breathe.

It started with a brother Mandela Barnes.

Then to my brother's Jamil and Lou, they pulled up, giving us a little medicine.

That a black man ain't healed.

Until he helps heal other black men.

He's, and he's the most dangerous thing in America.

Then we put America on trial for debt and it knows it owes and keeps pretending it came in for it.

And we close on the sister who chose jail over giving up her ground.

If I haven't told you once this week, I'm going to tell you right now that I love you.

Thank you for tuning in to the grapevine, picking some grapes with me.

Guess who we got next.

Jazz, tap in with Jazz next on the truth radio.

you

Welcome back.

Welcome back.

Man, I was just talking to Sierra and she was like, she needed it.

Jazz was like, Jazz was like, is this a meditation hour?

Man, let's bring them back on so we can get some more meditation.

Another people were talking about a good breathing meditation.

We're going to hit the chat after I tell you that you are tapped in to the grapevine with your host.

That's me.

non severe.

And man, I, I feel like I'm, I'm floating on cloud nine straight up.

That was really good.

So the first hour we had, I feel like I'm talking like I'm talking in the library, but the first hour we had Mandela Barnes dropped out the race.

Mandela Barnes is gone.

It's out the gubernatorial race in Wisconsin.

And then.

We discovered that we need to talk about black man healing and we had Jamil Tyler and also brother Lou from just breathe universe on.

Discussing black man healing and how they can how we can as black men.

He'll do our breath through talking with each other through being vulnerable.

That's one of the best ways in which.

America.

There's one of the best ways in which America will be able to heal.

And we're going to lean into that for this next hour.

We're going to lean into that.

So I really appreciate you all hanging in there, kicking it with me on the award winning truth radio 1017.

So we did spend an hour on healing our men.

But let's talk about real quick.

Let's talk about healing the womb, the debt.

Because you can't heal what you what you won't pay for.

Right.

I'm pretty sure we all know that.

And America, America, America, you'll pay everybody else.

I'm saying you, not my listeners, but America.

We talking about America, the the property.

The theory will pay everybody else.

You pay the Japanese.

You paid the Jews with the Holocaust.

You paid our native brothers and sisters.

You paid the 9-11 families.

You paid the Chinese.

You know exactly how to cut a check.

You know exactly how to cut a check when you decide.

the wrong when you're able to face the wrong when you're able to understand that maybe these people hold much more power than the people you actually owe the people that.

That are in that you know that you've wronged that people that help build this country.

Maybe.

Maybe just maybe you owe them just a little bit.

Just a little bit.

But why is our debt?

Why is our debt the only one that's suddenly too complicated?

Why is our debt so complicated right now?

400 years, slavery, black codes, Jim Crow, redlining, mass incarceration, every error reached in our pockets and past the theft.

down every error, every error, white families, look at white families, about there still, still to this day, six times the median net worth of black families.

So for example, a black family makes, you know, 45,000, you know, roughly six times that.

is $285,000.

What would you do as a black family, nuclear family, with $285,000 regularly, annually?

So this gap isn't based upon, isn't based upon happenstance.

It's not based upon happenstance.

It's not based upon, hey man, you know.

I just got the wrong job.

That is not the case.

We're going to talk about the jobs too, because majority of our kids should not be going to just real quick.

The majority of our kids should not be going to school just to get a job to make that 45,000.

They should be going to school to learn how to own the job, to learn how to own the job.

Look at Byron Allen, comedian, went from a comedian.

To a billionaire that should be that should be the norm Not a wealth gap a wealth gap families led by a black man black men a wealth gap six times less than our white counterparts $45,000 a year for families versus our white counterparts at

They're making $285,000.

The gap is not anything else other than policy.

It's not anything else other than policy, but it's not necessarily a policy that is just embedded in American politics and social cues and social norms and all the other stuff.

It's not just that policy.

It's our policy.

It's the black agenda.

It's the black policy.

It's us understanding how we have to be a part of the team.

How we have to be a part of the team.

You have to remember, even a person like Dr. Claude Anderson said, don't you don't have to worry about socialism and communism and all the other stuff.

But we do have to worry about is the fact that is if.

He literally said it's nothing wrong with capitalism because capitalism was built off our backs.

It started with us.

In the late 1500s, it started with us.

So why cannot we learn to use capitalism to capitalize on everybody else is doing it?

And we're running from it.

We shouldn't be running from it at all.

Look at Japanese Americans, 1988.

$20,000 a person 20 G's a person What they call it 20 stacks is that it jazz 20 stacks stack as a G Stack as a G Yes, and for and an apology they got written apologies Germany paid the paid Holocaust survivors we did too

Paid Holocaust survivors they've been paying Holocaust survivors since 1952 But the largest Holocaust in the world belong to the black people to the people who?

Who knew they listen they even knew during slavery?

This is this is the crazy part.

They looked at our skin.

They knew that they could take us Take us to this place called America or Europe

and know that we wouldn't run.

We couldn't go far.

You know why?

Because our skin was dark as gold.

Our skin was darker than theirs.

So we stuck out like a scarlet letter A. So this ain't, none of this is, none of this is fantasy.

None of this is fantasy.

We can still, we can do this.

They found the money to pay everybody else.

Look at, look at Everston, Illinois.

Everston, Illinois already did it.

Everton already did it.

They started paying people.

Little, these little cities, California built a whole task force.

The state of California built a whole task force behind reparations.

Straight up.

So it's a choice that they keep refusing.

It's a choice that they keep refusing.

And I'm going to keep it real that these hard questions do exist.

who gets paid, lineage, race, you know, like, okay, we got that.

Recent immigrants, and is it a check or is it an investment?

Did it get paid in land?

Do we, you know, do we let the HBCUs govern it?

Business capital, you know, do we put it in the business capital?

What, like, we got those questions.

Because we already know a check if it's 20 Gs gets spent.

But for me, ownership lasts generations.

If you own something, it lasts generations.

We were supposed to receive 100 acres, no 40 acres in a mule and $100.

That $100 today would be 10 mil, 10 million per person.

We were supposed to get $100.

and 40 acres and a mule and didn't receive it.

Didn't receive it.

At all.

So even in the yes, even in, even if we get a yes, even if it was like, yeah, there's a real fight about how.

How would you build it?

How would you build it?

And if not money, then what?

If not now, then when?

They paid everybody else but us.

They paid everybody else but us.

And for me, if the money was mine, man, you know, I was spinning on healing.

Come on, y'all.

Come on, team.

Bring it in bring it in put your hands in the middle.

Let's go one on counter three boom break Let's go back to the locker room real quick.

We got it.

We got work to do My squad we going back to the locker room.

We got work to do.

We're gonna go underground We're gonna go underground When we come back we're gonna talk about some black billionaires and jail over family land what one woman did

to keep the generations alive in her family.

Y'all go.

Y'all got to stay around for this.

You on the award winning truth radio and you are talking with me on the grapevine.

We'll be back.

Welcome back.

Welcome back to the grapevine.

Welcome back to the grapevine.

I'm telling y'all.

This show has been about breathing, healing.

We talked about Mandela Barnes.

We talked to some brothers that I'm cool and comfortable with, discussing my vulnerabilities on Sundays.

Yes, now we're talking about how we're, how we're going to viscally.

Fiscally come up how we're gonna how we gonna spend this money if we if we get once we get them the money Where does where does the is if we got a Brinks truck?

How big do we want our Brinks truck debris to be?

Hmm how big do we want that Brinks truck to be?

We just spent

We spent time on what America owes us.

Now flip it.

Let's flip it because here's the uncomfortable question.

What do we owe each other?

We got black billionaires.

I mean, real life black billionaires now plural.

So while we wait on a check from the government that ain't coming.

What are the ones who already made it doing with it?

That's the that's the conversation That's the conversation already quoted Dr. Claude Anderson about this problem will actually kind of stay in his lane too Because he always says that he had a quote and his quote was his quote was

That we got black billionaires and he knows a few that will take their black billionaire dollar and go he said go build a Go build a school in Africa somewhere in the jungle and won't spend a dime in the jungles of Their home country where they live and they wear they've made money at won't spend a dime

and be a couple of miles away from a mother and her son or kids having to use a stove to warm their house during the winter.

That's very, very interesting.

That's very interesting.

When you own, when your own house is on fire, where does the water go first?

Y'all hear me out.

Where does the water go first?

That's the whole debate.

Do our billionaires inspire the world or they just invest at home?

Do they inspire the world to invest at home?

And I'm gonna tell you a friend.

I'm gonna straight up tell you a friend.

I don't think it's either or, but I think we let them off the hook too.

We let them off the hook too easy.

We let them off the hook too easy.

And today we ain't doing that.

We're not going to do that.

We're going to keep them on the hook.

We're going to keep them on the hook.

Yo, we got a caller.

Ben, what's up?

Listen to your conversation while you're monologue and I'm just sort of thinking about a couple

things.

the whole idea about reparation.

If you, I guess the question would be, how would you actually facilitate it?

You know, where would the money go?

It wouldn't go to specific individuals, but you figure whatever institutions that would be beneficial to the community as a whole would possibly be the best benefactor of that.

It could be education, it could be colleges, it could be startups, it could be business sorts of investments, it could be

other types of services that other people may or may not render to the extent that we would like them to do and we would do it ourselves.

So it would be interesting to see how that would happen because there's another view of this in terms of if you gave everybody cash and it was a one-time deal, would they do things that would be lasting or would we just blow it?

Well, stay on the line.

I don't have the answers and I'm just giving thought to the topic.

Maybe the answer is coming from people like you.

Maybe the answer is coming from people who are actually in the crux of the issue, right?

Maybe the answer is coming from individuals that understand where...

That we are the canaries in the coal mine.

They understand the technology They you understand it like you you get it Where where should this money go?

Where do you where would you do?

Well, where would the money go if the money came to you in $20,000 increments?

Well, I guess everybody's situation is different, but whatever I feel is that is lacking from quote-unquote society

Or you don't, you feel like you could do it better if you had an opportunity to do it.

It would provide the means for people who feel like they can make a difference to have the ability to actually make a difference.

You know, we typically show up, participate.

Participation is great, but that's not necessarily long standing because you do have, you know, you got to be able to scale and you got to be able to have things that bodies just in themselves can't provide.

And you need to have like some force multipliers.

I mean,

If you say we want to pull our money together, if you say we need $10 million,

we don't

have 10 millionaires in Milwaukee that could say we're going to give $1 million a piece.

But you

said we don't.

We said we don't have.

Let me put it this way, it's not public knowledge.

The big people, you could have seen a long time, long standing families probably have it.

And we know who those people typically are, but there's a lot of unsung people out here.

They got access to dollars, but they not necessarily in a limelight.

They don't necessarily want to be in a limelight.

But the point is they have, you know, people say, give money.

Well, not everybody can give money or give money to the significant degrees case in point.

Look at it.

Look at the church.

Churches is the one place that white people don't control black people money.

Right.

And churches need money to do some of what they do.

And we come up with that.

But again, you know, what if, you know, if I'm tithing, I happen to come into a windfall and I'll give a little something.

Or I just give what I can every single time willingly.

It adds up.

But, you know, they're limited to, I can serve my congregation, maybe the people at the block that my congregations are.

Maybe I have a school, maybe I have a daycare, maybe I have housing.

It all is over the map.

I guess what I'm getting at is,

You know, you kind of went down the road of billionaires, letting them off the hook.

Michael Jordan, Oprah, Tyler Perry, Byron Allen, 50 cent, Jay-Z, Beyoncé, all them people got money, right?

But you can't ask them to do what you won't

do.

You know, I'm not talking about you figuratively.

Do you give?

Do you give up your resources or your talent or your support to people who are doing the heavy lifting?

And sometimes you have to look at that and go, I don't know if that's people living what they're asking for.

Well, just stay on.

Just one answer this question.

Are we living?

Are we living in especially black America?

Are we?

Are we living in a individualistic society?

Within black America?

Or are we a part of a team?

Because that will tell the difference,

right?

I think it depends on the circle you, it depends on who you associate with.

Hold

on, hold on Ben, hold on, Ben, hold on.

Is it the answer to this question?

It can't be both.

You can't be an individual and a team.

Now you can have somebody, I'm just saying to you, you know, a team, if you look at this, who won the last Super Bowl?

Okay, who won the last NBA championship?

It was the New York Knicks, New York Knicks.

New York Knicks might have had superstars, but.

You can't play four people on a squad against five guys for 82, maybe 100 plus games.

Right?

That's true.

But that's the same token.

You got to have people, you got to have people who want to be part of the team and be willing to play their role on the team.

Yeah.

And we got a lot of, we got a lot of individuals on the squad.

Exactly.

You can have, you can have, if you want a team or you want five individuals who ain't thinking about the collective, they thinking about, I'm going to get mine.

Yeah, that's

true.

So you gotta look at it that way.

And I know we just talked philosophically, but I guess what I'm saying is, if we're looking for somebody to give, then my question is, what are you giving?

And then how much should they give?

I can't tell a man how much he should give.

You

might say, well, they got you.

You don't know what they, you don't know what else they got to deal with.

And you don't know what else they give to all right.

Yeah.

Say that again, Ben.

One more time.

So

I'm saying some people, I can't tell a man what he should give.

And if he is given, that's his cause, it's his resources.

And I may give to one cause, I might not give to your cause.

I'm not willing to participate in uplifting the whole.

Just meaning that I give the way I feel my interests are.

Some people give to stuff that deal with business.

development, some people get the education, some people get the appeal of people's social needs.

It's all over the map.

I just figured you need to find your tribe and be with those folks who are like-minded and do what, you know, get in where you fit in and do your part.

And hopefully, as everybody's doing a part where they can make a difference, it impacts us as a collective.

But it's a philosophical question.

And I guess the place you start is based on whatever resources you have.

And the groups of people, you have a potential circle of influence over.

And causes that you believe in, are you putting in to make a difference?

If a lot of people just do a little bit, we'll get a lot done.

But too

many times, you can't do the big bang.

That's not realistic.

That's right.

Hey, Ben, man, I appreciate it.

We're going to continue this discussion.

We're going to continue this discussion.

I appreciate it.

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People love to heal.

We got to continue to heal.

I'm, I'm excited because we are in the award winning truth.

Radio studio.

What I was seven.

Listen, y'all, I'm, I'm literally, uh, after our breathing session earlier, I feel like I'm, I'm on cloud nine for real.

I feel like I'm.

Straight up on cloud nine.

I needed that.

So today we were able to breathe with our brother Lou and I felt immediately I felt stress go right down my back and it left.

They forgot what I was even stressing about.

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And Paul, how are you doing today, Paul?

I'm all right, brother.

How you doing?

Welcome.

Thank you for being the temp caller in the in our state fair ticket drawing.

What station?

Thank you.

Hey, look, I'm glad you're here.

What station brings you the truth?

Oh 101.7 brother man.

I really appreciate

back in Milwaukee man.

That's the only station besides 620 I listened to

that's right That's right.

I really appreciate everything that you're gonna that you're gonna do with those tickets I want to I want to be a part of your party.

Can I be a part of your party?

Oh Yeah,

oh, yeah,

I'm hoping to get some early man.

That's that's what I want to see All right, cool.

Well, we'll see we'll see you down there then.

Thank you Paul

Oh,

thank you.

Thank you.

Yes.

So we're talking about a lot.

We've talked about healing.

We talked about Mandela Barnes dropping out the race.

We talked to two brothers that were able to help me heal myself.

And now we're discussing reparations, reparations from the perspective of black people.

Of course.

And I left off before we got to our break, before we went to our break, I left off and my question was, when your house is on fire, when your house is on fire, where does the water go first?

Where does the water go first?

That's the whole debate.

Do our billionaires, do our billionaires inspire the world?

Or do they invest at home?

Should they invest at home?

Do our billionaires should our billionaires?

How about this?

Should our billionaires inspire the world?

And that was based upon the question that or the topic that Dr. Claude Anderson said, Hey, we got people who are billionaires that will spend money on a school in South Africa, but they ain't spending money on the school in, you know, South Chicago.

I mean, think about it.

Think about it.

We're not talking about any one person you can I'm not discussing The per a person because it's not a person who has been being dollars.

We're not counting people's pockets But what they portray as being who they are we want to know What are they looking to inspire the world or they're looking to invest in the home

that they have made their money in.

You got to think about it.

Water don't go outside with you.

Your house on fire.

The water don't go outside.

It come from outside inside and it stays in the house.

It stays in the house.

You can but you and here's the thing.

I really we all know this.

You can't eat inspiration.

You can't eat inspiration.

You can't buy.

a house with a magazine cover.

So let's talk who's moving the money right here, right here.

Robert Smith paid off an entire graduating class student debt.

Tyler Perry built the studio in Atlanta.

Magic Johnson, he put theaters and businesses all over wherever the United States.

David Stewart, if you don't know about that, worldwide technology, one of the biggest black owned companies in America.

billions and billion dollars, billions and billions of dollars in revenue, thousands of people on this payroll.

Hey, look, if you never heard his name, look him up.

He's one of the richest dudes in America, black man, killer Mike, you know, Greenwood.

Here's what Claude Anderson said.

And this is, this is the key.

A dollar circulates in our communities for weeks before it leaves.

in ours, in our communities.

Studies say that it's gone in other communities, excuse me, a dollar circulates in other communities for weeks.

In our community, a dollar circulates for hours and then it's gone.

Y'all think about that.

We got over a trillion dollars a year in spending power.

A whole nation's worth of money.

A whole nation's worth of money.

And almost none of it stays home.

Almost none of it stays home.

So the billionaire question ain't really about charity.

It's about circulation.

Are they building the pipes?

Are they really building the infrastructure?

Banks, factories.

grocery stores, media, all that.

We are supposed to own.

We are supposed to own that.

That all that stuff keeps our money flowing in our own communities, in our own hands, because it ain't about how many black billionaires we got.

That's if you can make, you can have everybody can be a billionaire, everybody in Milwaukee.

or half of us can be billionaires.

It's not about that.

It's about how many black-owned jobs, banks, blocks, factories we own.

If we are constantly bringing our dollars in and pushing them out, if I take this shirt off, this shirt right here that I have on, and I look at the tag, what does the tag say?

Made in China.

Made in China.

Made in Cambodia.

Made in Vietnam.

Made in Laos.

Made in wherever.

Made in wherever.

Made somewhere else.

And it has to go through so many barriers.

So by the time it's on my back.

Man, I gotta pay 50 bucks.

50 bucks for a t-shirt.

When in reality this t-shirt and I've seen it myself in China been to China I've seen I literally have seen this These shirts cost nothing Cost nothing I've seen I've seen actual Jordans being made Jordans Air Jordan shoes $20

20 bucks.

That's how much I pay for my Jordans.

You still have them?

I still got the Jordans.

I still got the Jays in the back of the car.

I got the Jays in the back of the car.

I came back.

I had six pairs of Yeezys.

Yeah, I'd rather have six pairs of Yeezys than one pair of Jordans.

But look, I had the Yeezys.

I came back and I had.

All kinds of clothes.

Man, look, I went over there with nothing.

I didn't have to pack.

I didn't pack nothing.

I had just my undergarments, but then go over there and I came back with everything.

It's easy.

It's easy, y'all.

For real.

When we come back, we're going to talk about a young lady, not a young lady.

I guess she's older than me, but a lady who.

who chose ownership over over giving her land away and the price she paid to keep her land.

This is a really interesting story.

Really interesting story.

Stay tuned.

You're on the grapevine.

We'll be back in three minutes.

Yep.

Yep.

Yep.

Yep.

Yep.

One day I'm a freestyle.

One day I'm a freestyle.

I

don't

think you can.

Yeah, you're gonna catch it.

You're gonna definitely catch it.

I ain't ready yet.

My brain still is not operating at its optimal level.

But I will freestyle for y'all.

I do more breathing.

Hey, after my, hey, you know what?

Next, next week, next week.

This is official official y'all.

Oh, sorry.

Welcome to welcome back to the grapevine, brother Zach just distracted me.

Welcome back to the grapevine.

You don't know war winning truth radio.

The truth radio one on one seven and after my breathing session next week, I am going to officially freestyle at three o'clock on next Wednesday.

Next Wednesday, you will get the official.

Jack, can I get the...

I pull up that

page.

Oh, man.

Yes, y'all.

Yes, y'all.

Listen, listen up.

Manan Sabir is gonna freestyle three o'clock, three o'clock next week.

Next week, we're gonna... I'm getting this freestyle on.

After my breathing session, I'm gonna breathe into a freestyle.

I keep promising that I will and you will get it.

Really?

Two minutes of fire.

Two minutes of fire.

Now let's get back to my topic.

Listen y'all.

Jail over family land.

Jail over family land.

I'm gonna add that to my freestyle too.

Jail over family land.

We just talked about billionaires and banks and black men healing and Mandela dropping out of the race.

I appreciate your Mandela salute to you.

Thanks for putting it to the side.

But let me tell you what the real wealth is.

And it ain't in numbers.

Ain't a number on the screen.

It's not, it's not a check that clears.

Real wealth is dirt.

Here in America, real wealth is dirt.

It's land you can stand on.

Land they can't unplug.

Land that's still yours when the power goes out and the bank fails.

And this next story though, it's about a.

It's about a sister that she understood that so deep in her bones, so deep in her soul, so deep in her spirit, she was willing to lose her freedom before she lose her ground.

And I'm picture with me.

Courtroom, a judge looks at a black woman dead in her eyes and gives her a choice.

Sign the land over or go to jail.

And everybody in that room is waiting for her to break, you know, or go to jail.

Oh, man, to go to jail.

Nah, or go to jail.

They're waiting for her to break, to sign her land over.

And to be reasonable, this sister, she looked at Judge right back in the face, and she picked jail for literally two weeks, locked up, locked up over.

Land that's been in her family for generations over land that's been in her family for generations.

Now that's the news you want.

You want to put in your head.

That's the news.

That's the information you want your kids to hear.

And we go call that stubborn, you know, I think people, the people who are trying to take that land will call the stubborn, difficult, emotional.

You know, all the taglines of people that are hurt in trauma.

Nah, you know what you call that?

You call that family.

You call that ready and willing to do things for your family that other people aren't ready and willing to do.

So she didn't fall for the trick.

She didn't fall for the trick bag.

She didn't fall for the trick knowledge.

She's the last line of defense.

in a robbery that's been running in this country for hundreds of years.

For hundreds of years, they've went, came over and taken this land.

Even their own people know it when they came over.

They said the first in this is history talking.

They said the first Europeans came here.

and wanted to assimilate with the native tribes.

They came here and wanted to assimilate with the native tribes.

You know why?

Because they recognize that their society was a society that was taking somebody else's land.

And not only was it taking somebody else's land, it brought disease and famine into that land.

And so they had people, not all their people.

Just a few very small percentage left their European confines of European American, not American at the time, European American, European confines in Virginia, wherever they landed and left.

They left.

Yes.

So they're not going to teach you this stuff and they're not going to teach you all this in school.

They're not going to teach you this stuff in school.

This is stuff you're going to get on the truth.

I know I'll clip it.

I'll clip it.

Man, I was, that's a DJ, man.

He just missed that one.

No, that's a promo clip.

That's a commercial clip.

That's better.

The air horn would have

thrown it off.

Oh yeah, you're right.

You're right.

It's one generation out of slavery, one.

Black folks in this country owned somewhere around 15 million acres of that land.

We had almost one million black farmers in 1910.

We came out of bondage with nothing.

No 40 acres, no mule, no $100, no apologies.

And we still clawed our way.

This is inspiration, y'all.

But y'all can't, you can't build, you can't build capital off of inspiration.

I'm just giving you a little bit of inspiration though.

But you can't build capital off of inspiration.

You got to go do the work and that's what they did.

They didn't have the 40 acres.

They didn't have $100.

They didn't have a mule.

I had it.

True.

My grandmother, my great grandfather had to, had to.

Sprank at the whooper, uh, whooped the slave master's tail at the at at the tail end of slavery.

My famous old, he had to whoop this dude's butt period with a, he raised that whip up and my granddaddy took a sickle and said, if you do anything else that whip came down.

Yep.

My great, I'm sorry, my great grandfather, my great grandfather whooped his, I can't say it, but gave it to him.

Him and the horse.

Him and the horse.

He was on that horse.

He gave it to him and the horse.

That's right.

Oh, donkey slave master.

And then he took his land.

My grandfather.

Made the dude give the land up.

My great-grandfather, I'm sorry.

That's right.

My great-grandfather, my great-grandfather, fought his way on my father's side, fought his way through reconstruction.

That's the reason why the majority of our people, he actually literally fought his way through reconstruction as a prize fighter.

That's the reason why the majority of my family have been fighters for generations.

Because of him.

Because he had to fight his way through.

Literally.

And they said, if he would have lost, he wouldn't have been able to go back home to his family.

Because they would have took him.

They would have did something with him.

Y'all get it?

We weren't.

We didn't get no we didn't get an apology.

And we still clawed our way to own in a piece of this land.

To own in just a piece.

So I'm not saying.

I'm not.

We when people are trying to bully us off of land trying to bully us off of our the things that we own.

Don't leave.

Keep getting more.

Keep getting more.

We shouldn't just have five black billionaires We should have 500 black billionaires And they should be using that money to develop capital the capital streams here in America Take this land back take your land back Let me breathe a little bit I need to breathe

It started with a brother Mandela Barnes.

Then to my brother's Jamil and Lou, they pulled up, giving us a little medicine.

Now the black man ain't healed until he helps heal other black men.

And he's the most dangerous thing in America.

Then we put America on trial for debt and it knows it owes and keeps pretending it came in for it.

And we close on the sister who chose jail over giving up her ground.

If I haven't told you once this week, I'm going to tell you right now that I love you.

Thank you for tuning in to the grapevine, picking some grapes with me.

Guess who we got next.

Jazz, tap in with Jazz next on the truth radio.