Man, Ray and Shannon had a fire show.
Thank you, Ray and Shannon.
And thank you for tuning in to the grapevine.
We're going to pick some more grapes.
on the award-winning Truth Radio.
I'm your host, Manan Sabir.
Yes, man.
This was an eventful last couple of days.
And we need to talk about a few things.
But I'm happy to be in the building because we got a very, very nice staff here.
Everybody's like type A on top of things.
I think we need a round of applause for everybody.
This does they thing here, man.
It's crazy.
You walk in and the buildings are lit up and everybody's smiling and doing their work and stuff like that.
Everybody likes to talk.
I mean, a lot of talking.
So I love that Milwaukee one word today though.
Power.
Say it with me.
Power.
I ain't talking about the Kanye West power.
I'm not talking about, you know, power to show.
I'm not talking about that.
I got ghost in it.
I'm talking about the power.
Who's got it?
Who don't?
Who decides who keeps it?
Who sits in the dark waiting on somebody else's timeline?
Flip the switch.
This Monday and nothing came on.
Nothing.
The fridge was gone.
The fan, the AC, it's a triple digits heat.
It's humid outside.
80,000 close to 80,000 of us across the state sitting powerless.
Wow.
That's crazy.
While the tornado tornado rips through.
A bunch of cities, a gang load of cities here in Wisconsin and Milwaukee.
Don't forget.
This is the same city that took almost 15 inches of rain.
in one night less than almost a year ago.
There's almost the anniversary of that time.
And the federal government looked us dead in the eye, dead in the eye.
You know who the federal government is run by, dead in the eye, and withheld its power to help us for 11 months, 11 months.
So today, for two hours straight, we're talking about power.
Who has it?
Who's denied it?
Who profits from it?
Who profits off of us never having enough of it?
Our one the literal kind the kind that keeps your light lights on your medicine cold because remember when the power goes out what happens a lot of people are affected Medicine that's one of the things you got to keep cold if you got some of that was a penis not peeling ceiling is some of that a Pepto looking chalk medicine that needs to be refrigerated
That definitely you might have to toss that out Our two we're crossing over to a different kind of power a company that had the power to tell the truth about what was selling That it was selling our moms and grandmothers Yes And chose not to I'm gonna get into it like y'all gonna hear about it like I think you want to stay around for this particular story you want to stay around because
It's gonna it's gonna hit you right in the right in the right in the bottom Because our parents used to put it on our bottoms And I'm connected to two names sitting to your bones right now Henrietta Lacks and Tuskegee Because when it comes to who holds the power over our bodies Milwaukee, we definitely have seen this before we've seen this movie movie before so let's start Exactly
How much power this city lost Monday and how long did we sit without it?
So just for a little reference, a confirmed tornado touchdown in Winnebago County, splintering homes, uprooting, scattering, uprooting trees.
I seen a video.
I seen a video of a.
I think it was a minivan.
A minivan was trying to get across and this was in Wisconsin.
You know, not when tornado had touched down and tonight it was spinning and a minivan was trying to get away from the tornado and it literally just missed it.
It has to be all over the internet.
This is a crazy scene.
I'm going to try to look it up, see if they got it, but I almost doubt that.
because it was a real, but think about it.
Think about it.
Racing down the highway and your minivan with your kids and a tornado slides just on the side of you.
Woo, man.
That's deep.
That's deep.
I've been in a number of personally, I've actually been in a number of natural disasters.
When I first, when I first moved to Florida.
Uh, my first move to Florida, my first.
Oh, my first couple of weeks, it was a flood.
It was a flood.
And I never really been, I never really been on in a flood flood, like captured, you know, locked up in the house.
Never really.
I've always like managed to be on a good side of town, but.
Man this this rain came down sideways.
It was coming up like it was I don't know what the rain was doing, but I I looked out and It was nothing no longer no longer than it was raining probably for a good 20 minutes and the water was up to my hip I Couldn't like I couldn't understand it But then I recognized that being in Florida, of course you are
you are sub level and you happen to, you'll sustain some of these types of events.
And it makes me wonder that it makes me wonder how long can the United States hold out?
How long can the United States hold out in relationship to all of these weathered events?
I remember being in an actual hurricane.
I remember being in a hurricane.
It's not funny because I'm looking at the hurricane and it's coming straight towards my balcony.
As it's coming straight towards my balcony, I'm thinking like, okay, they told us to shut her in place, put everything off, take everything off the balcony, looking at the water.
the clouds turn black as a wall of black clouds.
Then for some reason, before it hits shore, the wind, some piece of wind takes it to south, around like to my right.
And it just starts wrecking shop all of South Florida.
And that was the scariest thing because it went from.
The hurricane went from really silent to really loud sounding like a train in a matter of seconds.
And for people who are in these type of weather events, it's not easy when it's all over because they don't last a long period of time.
The rain doesn't last a long period of time.
It can, it can, but usually it doesn't last a long period of time.
Uh, the, uh, the wind doesn't last a long period of time, but when it's over, the destruction is major.
Just like in Winnebago County, the, you know, it's not just Winnebago County.
It was Monashia.
It was many other cities that were hit with, with this type of destruction.
So 80 close to 80,000 statewide 80,000 people statewide are or were without power and some people are probably just now getting their power back So a big chunk of it landed right here Milwaukee tens and thousands of people were sitting powerless for hours For hours, so imagine imagine having to go to work Imagine being denied going to work
because you're without power, also being, imagine not having the proper electricity and or backup generator to tend to your electrical medical needs.
Some people are on respirators, some people are on oxygen tanks, whatever it is, oxygen, whatever it is, you need electricity for medicine.
Yep.
You were without it.
So it hit at exact, at the same exact time as the heat wave and the heat wave was pushing the heat index into the triple digits.
No power.
The heat is super high.
Man Milwaukee.
That's a, that's a direct physical threat to real lives.
And it's not just because.
We can't just blame it on in terms of the weather pattern.
We just can't blame it on just the weather pattern and God doing this.
And yes, the creator does what the creator does, but we have the power to, we had the power to control the environment in a certain perspective.
Right.
And we're going to talk about this later because.
We're going to talk about El Nino.
We're going to talk about global warming.
We're going to talk about these things, things that are actually matter and that will affect us tremendously right now and also for, for years to come.
So I need, if anybody was without power Monday, call in, call in, let us know what did you go out?
What did you, what happened?
Call in and tell me what exactly it cost you to be without power.
833-212-1017, 833-212-1017.
I want you guys to hold that frustration because I need to show you this isn't new.
This is not new.
We've been denied power like this before.
And last time, it wasn't just the lights.
It was the whole government's power to help us.
that went missing for almost a year.
We'll be back in three Milwaukee on the grapevine.
picking some more grapes, and that's the time for the percolator.
If you wasn't old enough to listen to that song, make sure you go back to YouTube and listen to that song, man.
Like, I don't even know if they play that song in clubs anymore.
They play that song anymore?
Zach?
Nope.
Thanks.
Zach is just so matter of fact, though, on the real, man.
Nope.
He's like, nah, dawg.
It's a rap.
It's a rap on the percolator.
But we used to dance to that.
And we used to have rayon on.
You know what rayon is?
Nope.
I might have to say one more.
Yes, no question.
What else?
Oh, we used to wear koogee.
You know what a koogee sweater is?
Nope.
All right, y'all.
I went three for three.
I struck out three times.
What's that?
Look, he's a man of few words, but when he does speak, he speaks very powerfully.
Y'all remember that.
Thanks to Brother Z. Make sure y'all check him out because he spends on the ones and twos.
Milwaukee, before we go, one more step though.
Remember what happened last year?
What happened less than a year ago?
I remember.
Cause this isn't just about electrical power.
This is about who had the power to help us and sat on it.
August 9th and August 10th, 2025, nearly 15 inches of rain in 24 hours.
It was Milwaukee, it was Wisconsin, a Wisconsin historic rain record in two days, 15 inches of rain.
Not a storm, Milwaukee.
It was a complete siege.
Lincoln Creek ran straight through the heart of the North side.
Blue Pass is banks.
Two people drowned.
KK River swept, it was swept away in water.
That shouldn't have been moving really that fast through a city
Picture it.
Milwaukee's own airport.
The airport, every one way.
was underwater, but one everyone runway.
The.
Milwaukee, the Wisconsin State Fair is shut down because I guess it started raining mid celebration and families who are waiting to waste deep just to reach their cars in the parking lot.
I remember somebody telling somebody showed me a picture of friend of mine, show me a picture of their, of their basement and then also.
the their parking garage.
And when I say it was absolutely devastating, it was completely devastating.
Cars were floating.
It was, you know, engines were gone.
Everything was out of out of sorts.
Cars were literally floating like boats down the river or down down in the water.
And most of them were abandoned right where they stopped.
Potawatomi casino parking garage flooded so bad the lower level cars were total where they sat Yep Milwaukee Milwaukee fire department ran over 600 emergency calls And that that between that first two days 600 emergency calls 65 of them were water rescues real people pulled out of rising water and it was
Majority of the time in the dark over 12,000 calls came in to two on one in the days after people were begging.
And this is the this is the after party of of events like this.
And we're going to get somewhere with this.
But people were begging for help with damage that they had no way to pay for on their own.
Imagine having.
Your basement flooded out and people remember this I'm pretty sure if you if you remember the Milwaukee floods from of course you do but if you were in the Milwaukee floods from last year, please call in 833-212-1017 People were begging for folks to Rescue them people like water was water was absolutely to the top of people's
ceilings in their basement and it creeped up crept up inside of their homes.
So if you imagine being older, imagine being older and having to deal with this and people are still dealing with it right now.
So not only is they said it was over 200 and $40 million in damage.
1800 homes, 1800 homes, rated, destroyed or majorly damaged.
I remember the line, I remember the line of cars that were at the city dump, the line of cars at the city dump.
There were so many, there are so many trucks that collection trucks.
I think the line was like wrapped around for about a mile or something, something crazy.
So 1800 homes.
So it wasn't just chip paint.
Hey, it wasn't just chip paint and all the other stuff.
It was, you know, people had basements that were gutted, that were unlivable, furniture, mattresses, whole childhoods, all that going piled up, piled up at the drop off center, awful linking.
And wherever else and wherever else it was just the they were it was piled up.
It was piled up there.
And here's where your power shows up again.
Here's where your power shows up Milwaukee.
And this is the part that should make your blood like really curdle.
The power to declare a federal disaster, the power to release relief funds sat with you know who.
You know, Washington DC, you know who's in Washington DC.
And they use that power to tell the folks primarily in Wisconsin.
No, they did it twice.
The governor at the time, Governor Evers, appealed personally in November.
He laid out the numbers, 26.5 million, just in documented disaster costs.
And it was way past the threshold that was required.
It was denied again.
Six counties, including Milwaukee County were left standing with nothing but wreckage while families drained their savings accounts.
I've seen it.
I've seen it.
People were, you know, people were looking left and right, trying to, trying to get there, trying to get there.
savings together in order to fix their homes.
Local governments got zero federal reimbursement for public damage, not just the roads, but not the parks, not a dime.
Nothing.
Absolutely nothing.
So it took until July 6th of this year, 11 months later for that power to finally get used in our favor.
11 months of
Gutted basements sitting exactly as the water left them while the people with the power decided us decided to help us.
But that it was crazy.
Wow.
Milwaukee.
I think that's the same exact story as Monday's outage.
It's just bigger, slower and cruel.
Everybody somebody else.
Holding all the power and us sitting right here.
Just waiting.
Waiting on their timeline to decide whether we're even worth the help.
It's 11 months.
11.
The state of Wisconsin, because it's a democratic state, has not received
did not receive the funding, did not receive the funding right away.
It took them a long period of time in order to receive the funding.
Imagine where those people are now.
Imagine where you are now and where you were in the summer of August, whatever.
Imagine that.
Imagine how, how your life has been affected.
That's a that's a wild scenario cars floating past you you thinking about You're thinking that it's the end of the world People saving people rescue on people.
They had a guy on TV.
He read he had to rescue I think he was just coming coming home from work and he had to rescue some lady that was sitting in the middle of the Sitting in the middle of like I think off of capital by that by that target off of 224 Street
he had to rescue her.
So it, what we're doing, what we're doing in Wisconsin, we may think we're doing a great job in relationship to disaster relief, but I think we need to address infrastructure issues.
We, for example, mirror and Montreal ASK were going out and they were, you know, they could only do what they could do.
But they were clearing out the gutters.
And a lot of the gutters were packed tight.
In response to them doing that, there were some city officials that said that it's not just that.
But what is it?
What is it?
OK, so we got bad pipes.
We got bad plumbing underneath our city streets.
Man, we should be taking care of that.
We should literally be taking care of that.
But we're not just talking about our our floods We're talking about the power outage the power outage that that happened a couple of days ago over 80,000 people Over 80,000 people without power and I wonder I wonder it and I don't I haven't heard anything, but I wonder how many people are still without power today
or has everybody's power been turned back on?
What I did notice is throughout the city, throughout the city, there's been a lot of people, a lot of traffic lights that have been out.
And that's just from my observation, in my way, working my way around the city.
A lot of traffic lights have been out.
So Milwaukee.
Are you still feeling the effects of the flood?
Like right now, a year later, did you get real helping time or are you still rebuilding?
Because I know some people that are still rebuilding right now.
And I want the current, honest, like your current, honest, unfiltered update.
Now let's take a look at, let's take a look about at a force that doesn't answer to Washington at all.
The thing.
We call El Nino.
If y'all know about El Nino, I got a real good story for you and how it's about to test whose power grid can actually hold up.
We'll be back in three.
What y'all know about that?
If you're from Chicago, you definitely know about this.
Yo, listen up.
Welcome back to the grapevine.
I'm your host, Manon Sabir.
And you are on the award-winning The Truth 1017 FM radio.
Yes.
That's that song, baby.
Like if you really, if you really listen to some of this music, man, you know, you got the African, African rhythm, just a tribal rhythm, just going.
We love it, man.
So Milwaukee, you're going to hear this word a lot.
Like you, if you haven't been around a science class, I think now more than ever, you're going to hear this word called El Nino.
You're going to call, you're going to hear about El Nino.
I want.
you to exact.
I want you to exactly understand how it threatens the power staying on to your house.
Cause this isn't just like weather man talk, like, oh, it's El Nino.
This is your summer, your winter, your whole year on the line on the line.
Like El Nino is a natural Pacific ocean warming pattern that flips.
It flips weather patterns worldwide.
So.
And we just been update upgraded to by this national weather service, uh, to the El Niño advisory.
This happened in June.
So forecasters are putting real odds on this over 60%.
That's, this becomes the El Niño and this year becomes the strongest El Niño event pattern.
Ever recorded going back to 1950.
This year, we're gonna, let's dive into this because I think we need to understand that this isn't just, listen, I was driving back from Virginia, West Virginia.
We ran to torrential rain.
As I'm leaving West Virginia, rain hits West Virginia.
rain hits West Virginia and I look on and I get back to Wisconsin, look on the news and it's straight water.
A lot of it in the place that we were in.
So if, if you don't think this, look at all the weather, weather patterns and not just weather patterns, right?
But you look at the ring of fire where, you know, where you have all those.
you know, countries have that are on the fault line, the earthquake fault line.
Those tectonic plate fault lines and all of that is all of that affects each other.
Like if you aren't if you aren't necessarily if you aren't necessarily a believer in this weather pattern.
It's going to, it's going to, this right here makes you tune in.
Tell your people tune in.
This is real life.
Because Milwaukee, Milwaukee, we got it last year.
We understood.
We understood.
Okay.
All right, cool.
Got it.
You know, houses were flooded.
Things, you know, things was happening.
Black homeowners, you write jazz.
You write black homeowners where are still feeling the effects of the flood today.
Some of the, some of their, some of their homes aren't even, aren't even done.
Some of them, some of their homes are sitting bare or some of those homes still at this point have mold.
Trust that.
So La Ni, El Niño, La Niña earlier this year, like they got names for these, these weather patterns.
That's not like a gentle drift.
That's a hard, fast swing, like ocean temperatures flipping in a matter of months.
That there's something wrong.
And I want to be real succinct and clear because I don't want to just hand you a scare tactic El Nino's clearest fingerprints show up in a quieter Atlantic hurricane season and shifted winter precipitation.
It's, it's direct link to any one Midwest summer tornado, like Mondays is genuinely, it's probably less locked in scientifically.
But here's what is locked in and no debate.
A hotter planet is going to hold way more moisture straight up.
A hotter planet is going to hold a lot of moisture, more raw energy.
That energy has to go somewhere.
It's just like if you have a whole lot of energy in your body, let's say you worked out, you worked out, right?
And then the next day you feel like you need to work out, but you can't.
That's exactly what is happening with our weather patterns.
That's exactly what's happening with our weather patterns.
I can't even talk today.
Weather, weather patterns.
It has to go somewhere.
This energy has to go somewhere.
It goes in the storms that hit harder, rain that fall faster, wind that snaps power lines that used to hold power lines to hold like, and now boom, we can hit with like, with category five hurricanes and category five E five tornadoes.
I think that's what they call it.
So that's the exact thread connecting Mondays tornado to last August flood record flood Whether or not El Nino itself pulled the trigger on it You know We don't I mean that the weather people know whether people know Miss Sondra.
What's up?
Hey, hey, it's good.
How you been?
Hi You're speaking of whether I watch the weather channel all the time says I have The other people move to Texas and all that.
And so it takes us like me and my brother mall To watch them for the weather cuz they don't check it out from where they need to hide or I need to get in the tub or tornado, you know And so I tell them I said watch it all the time cuz they give you a lot of good hints They tell you like if it's a flood don't what they say don't drown
So don't go in the water.
And, um, and you know, the fact, the flaking stuff where they turn up the earth with that, uh, dressing up, you know, the oil down underneath those, that's cause an earthquake.
And I just want to say one more thing.
Did you know we had a earthquake?
We did 2.9.
Yes.
The border of Wisconsin and Illinois 2.9.
About a week ago.
now.
I get the tribune.
I get the tribune.
I get to see a lot
Read a lot of stuff they don't talk about.
It was about a week ago, at the most, two weeks, 2.9 earthquake between the border of Illinois and Wisconsin.
right.
Thanks, Miss.
Thanks, Miss.
Sandra.
Put me up on game.
Wow.
Yep.
Milwaukee.
We had an earthquake.
We had an earthquake.
Hmm.
What?
Whoa, that's crazy.
I didn't know that 2.9 magnitude earthquake.
But then today, Japan had a seven, basically a 7.0 magnitude earthquake.
They say 6.8, but I guess it was 6.8.
6.8 magnitude earthquake near Kumamoto, Japan.
And they are recording some deaths in there.
So it's not just like El Nino, but these weather patterns, these type of.
earth shattering events are becoming a lot more common than than not.
So.
I mean, let's think about it.
Let's now let's make this losing power real Milwaukee and not listen to that fluff on it.
A full fridge stays cold for about four hours without power.
Give or take.
After that, you kind of gambling with like some food poison.
And, you know, the parasites and the bugs.
And on top of that, you know, if you're dealing with medications, your insulin got to stay refrigerated.
Oxygen, oxygen, concentrators, your home dialysis machines, your CPAP machines.
These don't run on hype and hope.
They run on real electricity.
Look at, look, look at some of our elders living alone.
No power means no way to charge a phone.
No way to call for help.
No fan, no AC.
While their bodies, their bodies own ability to regulate heat is already weaker than, than, you know, take a person like me, weaker than mine.
For example, my, look, my grandfather, he has to, he has a two story house downstairs is cold dirt, but upstairs.
It's always warm, always warm.
No matter what it's always warm.
That man liked to sleep in the, he liked to sleep hot and rightfully so his body that isn't pulling enough energy.
So it's basically weaker than mine.
And that's not in convenience.
That's just a body left completely undefended against, you know, system failure.
It had no part in creating it straight up.
And you already know who eats that risk first and worst Milwaukee, not the household with the whole home generator humming in the garage and the chest freezer stock as backup.
The same neighborhoods, storm after storm, flood after flood with the least cash reserve.
the least insurance coverage and the least political power to make some somebody answer for Milwaukee, Milwaukee.
We got to do something about it, baby.
Milwaukee.
Also, did you lose food or medicine or a medical device this week or last August?
I know a number of people did.
Cause, you know, that's what happens in, in.
Disasters like this and I need you guys at least to tell tell me exactly what you had to do to survive it, you know This is how I let me 833-212-1017 833-212-1017 Why does our power have to?
Specifically stay out the longest our power.
Why does our power have to stay out the longest?
I've got We got receipts we we come on y'all
We got receipts and we can't just let it sit.
Hey, we'll be back on the grapevine.
We're going to pick some more grapes in three.
Yes.
Yes.
I'm your host, Manon Sabir.
We're going to pick some more grapes on the award-winning The Truth 1017 FM radio.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
And we're talking about power.
We're talking about power and I need an honest answer about the power that went out.
I need an honest answer straight up.
Then we're going to go to the chat.
I need an honest answer.
Why does our power specifically stay out longer more often than everybody else's?
Why does our power.
specifically stay out longer more often than everybody else's.
I'm gonna say that again.
Let's sit with that.
Our power stays out longer than everybody else's.
That's not a feeling today.
These are receipts, real numbers.
Let's put them on the table, like our power.
In Chicago, a city primarily built the same exact way.
Redlined pretty much the same way.
So we're basically looking in the mirror.
Power outages are 83% more frequent and last 140% longer in low wealth minority communities than wider wealthier ones.
Wider wealthier communities.
get their power turned back on faster.
If there is a power outage, then lower income and minority communities straight up.
That's it.
I'm, this is almost, it's almost double the frequency more than double the weight every single time, every single time.
And this is along along the lines of redlining along the same lines.
Remember I reported about.
About food, food apartheid.
These redlining, these redlining areas are still being affected.
And if people say that all we have to do is just move out, it's not that simple.
It is not that simple.
You just can't just move out from a community that your grandparents.
help build from a home your, your, your parents had to, or your grandparents had to purchase.
Cause they couldn't purchase one.
They couldn't purchase one out in the, out in the countryside.
Right.
You know, some of us did not, not everybody and continue to make sure that their kids went to school in Michigan.
They said researchers didn't just compare rich to poor Milwaukee.
They controlled for.
They said black and people of color communities eat nearly six additional hours of outage every single year compared to white neighborhoods with the same income.
The same home value, same paycheck, same mortgage, worst power.
That's in Michigan.
That number, it really can't be explained.
How are we using?
How are we using more power, more power, same income, same home values, same paycheck, same and we're in, we get worse power.
We use more.
We get, we get more outages.
I'm sorry.
We get more outages in Michigan, more outages.
And we have the same exact.
metrics in relationship to our paychecks, our mortgage rates, prices.
That's a lot.
And then worst power.
So after Hurricane Ida zip codes with a higher percentage of black residents took one to two full days longer to get their power restored.
When even researchers accounted for.
How hard the storm actually hit.
Two extra days in the dark.
In the hurricane aftermath.
We, we're still, we're still getting hit, y'all.
We're still getting hit.
The root of it.
Honestly, Milwaukee, I want, I want you to say this word with me for real.
I'm going to say it again.
It's red lining.
It's straight up red lining.
1930s government maps straight up drawn in on, you know, they drew red lines around these neighborhoods, marking neighborhoods as hazardous for investment.
For real, they marked our neighborhoods as hazardous.
This is like that when, when we first got the parental sticker on our, on our albums.
Our parents immediately told us to be careful, not, not pick up those albums, not listen to those albums.
It was bad music or a lot.
We got this.
Imagine that sticker being placed on your entire neighborhood.
Disinvestment.
That's what it was called.
And the banks followed those banks.
followed the lines, insurance companies followed the lines, and you already know who else followed the lines, the utility companies.
Deciding decade after decade after decade where the new lines, the new transformers, the new equipment will go.
Where the same tired and where the same tired infrastructure from your grandparents generation would just keep limping along.
Researchers have a name for this and it ain't even soft.
They call it energy racism.
None of this is an accident.
It's called energy racism.
Look it up.
It's not a bad, it's not an accident.
It's not bad luck.
It's just a system.
It's a system, a system built on, on an uneven, unequal playing field on purpose.
and left that way on purpose too.
Because nobody were real power ever really had to sit in the dark long enough to fix it.
You get what I'm saying?
If you got real power, you ain't gotta, you ain't gotta sit in the dark to fix it.
Just go and fix it, get it done.
Lights back on.
Straight up.
So Milwaukee, I don't have, I don't have
our own numbers broken down, block by block, race by race, sitting in front of me today, but I want to be straight up with you about that gap.
But given what's documented in Chicago, what's documented in Michigan, what's documented coast to coast, after every single major storm, I think it's more than fair and it's overdue.
to think about how do we, how do our energy company companies, whatever you, you know, how do our energy companies go on record and show the outest data, how it was broken down neighborhood by neighborhood, or are we the exception here in Milwaukee?
You know, we could be the exception.
I don't know.
They probably turned that power right back on.
We going to find out.
We're going to find out.
It's funny because I think this would be a great conversation to have with people from WeEnergies to discuss energy in Wisconsin so we can get both sides of the story versus our power going out regularly because I know even in Texas they do rolling blackouts.
But they, but they tell people sometimes too.
They tell people about the rolling blackouts.
Some, some neighborhoods, some neighborhoods on islands, they do rolling blackouts.
So we get it.
But Milwaukee, I want to ask you like whose power came back on first yours or somebody else, you know, in kind of a wealthy, wealthier, whiter part of town.
I would, this is a real comparison.
I'm not trying to cause any trouble, but I just want to know whose power came on first.
And.
We're going to take that same exact word because we just run out of time a little bit and we're going to follow it somewhere even darker and I need you guys to really hang on for this next hour because I want to I want to go into into this next thing really, really in depth.
And there's a company that had basically it still has a lot of power, but it had all the power to tell us the truth and Charles profit instead.
So don't go anywhere.
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So Milwaukee.
I want to, I got something to really, really tell you.
And this is really big.
$5.5 billion worth of big.
So.
We're gonna talk about our bodies.
We're gonna talk about who power and who controls it, but this is a new arena This hour is about a company that had the power to warn black women Listen to this had the power to warn black women about what's in their own bathroom cabinet And they chose
They chose silence.
Exactly.
We got that queued up.
It's about this company.
Y'all might know them.
They're called Johnson & Johnson.
Johnson &
Johnson.
will pay $5.5 billion to resolve tens of thousands of lawsuits alleging its baby powder and talc products cause ovarian cancer.
The landmark settlement covers 69,000 cases in a decade long court battle that has marred the company name.
Johnson and Johnson still says the claims were meritless, but that they were willing to settle just to get the closure.
Johnson and Johnson will pay $5.5 billion to resolve
Tens of
Whoo.
Y'all need to find out how y'all get, how do we, how do we get a part of that?
I need to understand where, where, how can we get a part of that?
And they said for decades, ovarian cancer, let's look up ovarian cancer, ovarian cancer, ovarian, ovarian cancer.
rates in Milwaukee.
Yes.
Oh, they said it's 11 new cases per 100,000 in Milwaukee County.
There's 11.4 new cases per 100,000 women per year.
So average of new cases about 62 women diagnosed each year.
I got a lot of questions in relationship to this because.
This is you talk about an ovary like you're not talking about like I Mean all cancer is is devastating But an ovary your Your ability Is taken away Your ability is taken away with With a talc with a with a powder from the moment you
put it on your child.
This is really, really interesting.
For decades, Johnson and Johnson, their baby powder, it's been linked to ovarian cancer and mesothelioma.
So 2018, a jury awarded Johnson and Johnson to pay 4.6
billion dollars to billion dollars to 22 women.
22 women.
The Missouri Supreme Court upheld it.
The wins keep coming.
LA Jury, 40 million.
2025.
Philadelphia jury, 250,000 this past January.
Johnson and Johnson had to pull the baby powder off, off the shelves.
They had to pull the baby powder off the shelves like it Chat you have y'all people in the chat Did you and when you're you when you were younger did you use baby powder on your children?
Did you use baby powder on your children?
Especially the young girls Like I remember even people
who were like, even I was in high school and people were bringing baby powder to, people were bringing baby powder to, uh, to school because, you know, they didn't want to, they didn't want to stay.
So after gym class, they'll put baby powder on a, you know, on a person, on a body.
Like, but they, this was, this is not, this is not.
Something to play with if you guys and this is something to weigh in For you all for everybody else who has used baby powder on their on their children Please look this up because there has to be a way for you to actually enjoying into Whatever these proceedings are it has to be a way ovarian cancer And I
dare.
I think the next segment, we're going to talk about the ingredients and how that came to be, how that came to be.
What is actually in this particular talk and powder that would cause somebody ovarian cancer, let alone this, we can even talk about the amount of products that are on shelves right now, i.e.
toothbrushes.
toothbrushes the bristles from toothbrushes by an organic person's perspective have what you name it microplastics microplastics and what and and Microplastics them what we're gonna look up.
What are microplastics?
I'm gonna get a official definition.
What are microplastics?
Watch this
What are microplastics?
Microplastics are tiny pieces of plastic less than five centimeters about the size of a seed or smaller.
Many are small that you cannot see them with the naked eye.
What do microplastics do to your body?
What do microplastics do to your body?
I feel like this a research channel.
We need to know it may trigger inflammation.
Microplastics may trigger inflammation.
And I'm just saying, I'm, we're talking about, I'm, I went, I'm pushing the bar.
Cause it's not just, it's not just.
It's not just the talk in the, in the baby powder.
We're talking about products that you use every day that are harmful to your body.
products that you use every day.
And every day is funny because they push not just baby powder, but they push us drinking water out of what?
Plastic bottles out of plastic bottles.
So your immune system, your immune system naturally, if you can recognize plastics, plastic particles as foreign objects and it can lead to chronic inflammation.
Tissue irritation.
So for example, it can lead to you having some type of issue with, with your muscle tissues, oxidative stress.
Like there are, there are, this microplastics can lead to a lot.
So whatever we are ingesting from, from our retailers because it's marketed right.
doesn't mean it's good for your body.
It's like, you can put, it's like putting, it's gonna sound wild.
It's like wrapping a cigarette with a piece of lettuce.
Well, maybe not today's lettuce, but last year's lettuce.
Wrapping a cigarette with lettuce.
Just because you wrapped it in lettuce,
And it looks good and it looks healthy.
That don't mean that is, that don't mean that is healthy.
Just cause you wrap water with a, this cause you got water in a plastic bottle and they're, they're telling you to drink it.
Doesn't mean that it's healthy.
Just because you got baby powder and it smells good.
Doesn't mean that it's, doesn't mean that it's healthy.
Doesn't mean that at all.
We are, we are living in a day and age in which listen.
We're living in a day and age in which this deception is
reality.
Thank God for my parents.
Deception is reality.
That's what we're living in that day and age.
Hey, y'all, we're going to continue to talk about this because I, but y'all, we got, we talking about power, power outages.
We gotta talk about this.
We need to talk about this.
I'm gonna go down the rabbit hole might as well.
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Yes.
I'm going to go to the chat.
I'm going to go to the chat.
Hey y'all.
Jasmine, what's up?
Hey y'all.
I see the effects of the flood, especially black homeowners.
I feel that.
LaRon Taylor said.
Uh, Wisconsin had an earthquake and Miss Sandra is the only one who knows about it.
According to Google, our last earthquake was 2024.
Sometimes you can't trust Google.
You know, it probably was some day, some, it probably was more than that.
Uh, sir chants.
Oh wow.
That's crazy, but accurate pertinent to the Johnson and Johnson baby powder.
A lot of folks got paid and well, all is not over yet.
The baby oil.
He is also sus.
Look what happened to Diddy.
He went wild on that one though.
You went wild on that.
You went wild on that, Sir Chance.
You went wild.
Hey y'all, if you used baby powder, according to Sir Chance, if you use baby oil, then
Let us know let us know.
I don't know what's in the baby oil.
I don't I'm doing it.
I think they still sell it I think it's different types of baby oil out there.
I don't know I made my daughter use coconut oil so You know There's that 833 212 1017 if you use baby powder if you use baby oil
Let us know eight three three two one two one zero one seven.
I want to hear from you I want to hear from you.
I want to know so let's find out what was in what was in that Baby powder that Johnson and Johnson got sued for y'all want to know I want to know Because it's probably still in our bodies talc natural occurring
mineral that's often found in the earth near asbestos crickets.
If talc is not carefully sourced and tested asbestos fibers can contaminate it asbestos is a known human carcinogen that can lead to lung cancer and ovarian cancer and mesothelioma.
So there you have it.
There you have it the top particles themselves move into the pelvis and they remain there for years For years For years It's crazy and they these people we're gonna get into why Why Johnson and Johnson was sued we go like there's I think there's more to the story
So even if asbestos is not present, researchers had long term proposed that there was a long term application of talcum powder to the general genitalia area that could allow the particles to travel through the reproductive tract.
Y'all heard that?
So many.
Pete, this is, they shouldn't even be in business.
I think they filed for bankruptcy so many times, like every time they got sued, they filed for bankruptcy, but they should not be in business at all.
They should be shut down and that's criminal because you're taking away, in some cases, you're taking away people's right to live.
You're taking away their quality of life.
You're taking away their ability to have children.
You're taking away generations and legacy.
You're taking it away.
You're taking it away.
They said there is some studies found a small association between genital talk and ovarian cancer.
Yup.
And why, why were they sued?
Here's, here we go.
The talk contained asbestos.
I cannot believe this.
Oh my gosh.
The talk contained asbestos and the company failed.
The company failed to warn consumers.
I'm going to say this again.
The company failed to warn consumers, y'all.
This is, this is not just, it ain't just a lawsuit.
I'm telling you, this is criminal.
They knew about this.
They knew it had asbestos as like, you know how many people use baby powder?
Bro, is Johnson Johnson still in, still in business?
Let's check.
Johnson and Johnson.
Y'all still in business?
Y'all still in business?
Johnson and Johnson.
Watch.
I bet you they are.
What'd they sell?
Johnson and Johnson.
Oh, you know what?
Band-Aids.
Yup.
Pharmaceutical company.
Johnson and Johnson.
Still, they are still in business.
They are still in business.
Look, man.
It's a nice little website too.
Johnson and Johnson still in business.
Ain't said nothing.
Ain't said nothing about mesothelioma.
Ain't said nothing about ovarian health.
The ovarian cancer ain't said nothing about sorry.
You know, we nothing.
Absolutely nothing.
Nothing.
The company agreed.
to the company agreed to a multi-billion dollar settlement to resolve tens of thousands of ovarian cancer claims.
Ovarian cancer, y'all, without admitting that its products cause cancer.
It's not funny, but what?
My little six-year-old is like, she don't.
My six year old will understand this one, but she would be like, what?
What daddy?
What?
Ovarian cancer claims, they agree to the settlement without admitting that its products cause cancer, but it was proven that its products had asbestos and cause cancer.
Come on.
They might as well just put OJ on trial.
On a civil trial.
I mean, yeah, okay.
The glove didn't fit.
Got it.
But he got sued and lost.
I'm pretty sure he lost in civil court.
And I'm not saying OJ, I'm not going down that rap hole if he did it or not did it.
Didn't do it.
But, but, but.
Johnson and Johnson.
Okay It's crazy like how do you How are you sued for billions and billions of dollars you file for bankruptcy a number of times And you can't even admit that your products cause cancer ovarian cancer that is foul you're you've just destroyed up
And that was 22 women that were awarded that.
And I'm pretty sure they probably took their time.
They filed bankruptcy.
They probably got a couple of dollars settled for much, much less.
This is this is what I'm talking about.
I wonder, like in our black community, like I already know, I know that it was a lot of mamas using.
Baby powder, a lot, a lot of mom was using baby powder back in the day.
Oh, just put the baby powder on light.
And they said the first place, the first place that this baby powder, the asbestos attacked was the baby's pelvis and it stayed in the baby's in the, in the child's body for years, for years.
So we're not even talking about, just imagine, we're not even talking about the asbestos in it just causing ovarian cancer, mesothelioma and some other stuff, right?
What we're talking about is, that's what we do know.
What don't we know?
There's probably other things that we don't know.
It's probably plenty of other stuff that we don't know about this, what, what it causes.
I mean, autism, probably you name it.
Yes.
LaRon Taylor said, I use more afroshain than any human was supposed to.
I think that is my problem.
Probably.
You don't even know what's an afroshain.
Like.
Do people really read the ingredients?
Do people really read the ingredients on?
On anything do you look do you look up the ingredients on the things that that you use and put on your body?
I Want to know I really want to know Because if if you don't just think about
What I said about microplastics, microplastics, they don't disappear if they break apart and they break apart again and they break apart again and they break apart again.
And, and then they go into the blood, the lungs, placenta, breast milk, your testicles, brain tissue.
If plastic can get in the body, if plastic can get in the body.
Shouldn't we at least ask for what happens after 50 years?
Shouldn't we be asking these questions?
Man, don't get me started on science.
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What's the word?
So we are going down this rabbit hole of cancer.
And I know we were just talking about the Johnson and Johnson.
5.5 billion dollar lawsuit.
And you have a unique journey in relationship to cancer.
And I know you popped in, you're popping in because I think this, this type of conversation, uh, doesn't, has to, has to go further than being unheard.
Has to be heard multiple in multiple layers and on multiple levels.
Exactly.
So in 2017, my aunt was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer and passed away three weeks after she was diagnosed.
And this was the first death that we had experienced my generation and my family.
A year later, I was diagnosed with breast cancer.
at the age of 30.
When I was diagnosed, I'm not gonna say accident because nothing is accidental, but I went for my regular yearly OBGYN checkup and he felt lumps in my left breast.
When I went to get the ultrasound, it showed cancer in my right breast.
So had I not called action ladies, make sure that you stay going to the doctor, right?
Not just for your regular checkups, but don't believe that
you have to wait until you're 42 to get a mammogram.
If you
have family members who have had cancer and it's a gene, then you need to go and get that taken care of prior to that.
So we found all of that out.
At the same time I was diagnosed, my cousin, Jaquisha, was diagnosed with breast cancer as well.
She was two years older than me.
Rest in peace to Jaquisha.
But what ended up happening is I was able to push through.
She passed away.
So
when you go through cancer, they're going to automatically introduce radiation, chemotherapy to moxifilin specifically for breast cancer.
I declined all three.
I did not do radiation.
I did not do chemotherapy.
And I refuse to take to moxifilin for my own personal beliefs.
And granted, I was in stage one, so.
It may vary depending on what stage you're in.
Like some people may have to, like my sister Queeta had to do chemotherapy because she was in stage three, I believe.
And that was the only way that she was gonna be able to get rid of it.
But what happens is after you go through recovery and they want you to see your specialist, they let you know that there's a chance it could come back, but in any form.
So it can come back as ovarian cancer.
It can come back as cervical cancer It can come back as breast cancer.
It can come back as brain cancer It can come back as any form of cancer as long as the cancer cell has been ignited,
So what it does is it alarms you and make you feel like In panic mode, yeah, right for me, I think the first month
That was my thought process like I'm only 30.
I don't want it to come back What can I do to stop it from coming back?
And that's what made me Stay on my health journey now.
I'm not I'm guilty.
I don't eat clean all the time, right?
But that reminder reminds me why I need to because again what we put in our body It matters.
So at 38 years old I took the genealogy test.
Yeah, my paternal grandmother
had cancer.
My paternal uncle had cancer.
My paternal aunt had cancer.
My maternal aunt had cancer.
My
However, that gene, it came back unattermed when I took that test, which is weird because if it's on both sides, why wouldn't it come back?
And that's a whole different conversation as far as experimental and the results that they give you because they really can give you whatever, you know, answer they want to give you.
But when that answer came back, it had me doing a little bit more research as to, is it actually genetics or does it pertain to what we're putting in our bodies?
And again, as 38, my thought process is, when my mom is 68,
when
food,
Junk
We started to see cupcakes.
We started to see high-flammings We started to see wildwood sodas all of these things in the corner stores And then I look and see the duration.
How long have we been eating this over 30 years?
Yeah, so when you're constantly putting these things in your body
for over 30 years, these are the very things that are going to cause cancer, right?
So I think the biggest myth is that it's genetic, it's not genetic.
It's based off of what they're giving us to put inside of our bodies.
but
not.
Right.
Yeah.
And I had straddled the fence for so long because I knew that I had a calling, but I still was dabbling into a lifestyle that I shouldn't have been.
So that for me was more so, are you going to be hot or cold?
You could be either or, but you got to choose one.
And I chose a side, which was God's side.
So I had to take that, eat that.
Like during my whole cancer, I didn't cry when I was diagnosed with my recovery.
I didn't cry until a year after I went through my recovery.
because I understood the transformation that was happening and the new person that I was becoming.
It did trigger me because right before I was diagnosed, I had just started back working out.
This was a year after my youngest daughter was born.
So I finally got the motivation to get up and work out and exercise, and then boom, I get hit with this, which is part of, subconsciously, a trigger-wide-
right?
I need to get become healthy.
I had gained a lot of weight after I had my youngest daughter and recently I beat it.
But up until recently.
I wouldn't work out for that reason.
I didn't understand subconsciously that it was a trigger.
But I never liked to be the victim in any circumstances, except for circumstances that I like.
That's extreme.
But with this in particular, it was like it took out my eye and it took out too many of my family members for me to sit back and allow it to beat me.
I refuse to be a victim to cancer, right?
I refuse to be a victim to being a guinea pig for certain hospitals and things of that nature because, again, that's another conversation, but there's a lot of experimental work that goes inside of utilizing black women specifically when it comes to cancer or anything because they feel like we are the strongest human beings on this earth and we can handle
I know this because I see my mom.
I see how strong she is.
I see my grandparent, my grandmothers go through things.
And this world, as we know it today in relationship to the human population would not have been itself without the black woman, the black woman, the eve of our
DNA now our DNA and our RNA now would was She saved the population that Our Earth's population that we as we see it today.
She saved it one person in Africa saved the entire population That's a strong person.
That's a strong woman.
Yeah
Hey, y'all when we come back we're gonna continue on with with this conversation Man, this is crazy.
I want to talk about human guinea pigs and you know what what jazz thinks about human guinea pigs the black women like Henrietta Lacks and Tuskegee and some of those folks that we We kind of perused through and not remembered
Let's remember those folks when we come back in three.
Yo,
Last couple of minutes with tap in with Jazz.
Jazz Tyler, you are back.
Man, we on the grapevine.
We pick a great tapping in.
We do it all right now.
We you got a unique journey.
We were just talking about.
your cancer journey.
But before we got through that, before we got out of that conversation, we were talking about the black woman and how important the black woman is, how strong the black woman is.
Then we talked about the amount of black people and specifically black women
History has shown us that, but I personally know that I was a part of some research study as a pertain to being a guinea pig without even knowing I was.
So from my personal experience, again, this is my personal experience.
It does not reflect every other Black woman's story, but mine specifically as a pertain to the healthcare system in Milwaukee.
I was 19 years old when I had my first child and 21, I had my second.
When you're a young mother who is trying to survive, I've always had my own house, job, car, but it still was hard, especially raising two children at once.
They prey on you.
So they'll approach you and say hey, we're doing a Research study about your experience.
We just want to have some conversations with you and we're offering a stipend and When your money is low you like oh, yeah, I take the stipend right these are conversations that our parents don't know to have with us right because they didn't experience it or They dressed it up in a way that they didn't know they was unaware so when it was brought to me I did it and then I end up being compensated for it, but when I went back
was
But when the person came to interview me, those were not the questions she had asked.
However, I had already signed the agreement to do it.
And again, I could have denied it right then and there, but I did not know I was unaware.
So there's something about black women having strength, but young black women
being scared to cost of out when they don't, especially when they come from an environment where they don't feel protected.
So I didn't call it out, right?
I just went along with it.
And when she did it, she started to ask questions that had nothing to do with what they initially sent me.
And I thought about it, but it was just a thought.
My mind was focused on surviving.
And right now, my baby need pampers and pull-ups.
And this money that they're giving me is going to help.
But the more I became older, when I got older and matured, I went back and when I was diagnosed with cancer, I went back and looked at my MyChart and just went down the line.
2016, I was pregnant.
They diagnosed me with fibromyalgia.
2018, I'm diagnosed with cancer.
2020, I'm diagnosed with lupus.
Now I'm like, why am I being diagnosed with all of these things?
It wasn't making sense because prior to my pregnancy, I wasn't.
So then it had me thinking like, dang, did the pregnancy trigger something?
No, I look at my daughter, she's an angel.
So I know it had nothing to do with her.
So now I'm questioning myself on why did they initially ask me if I wanted to be a part of the research
Well, let me, in that moment, no.
But what they do is,
Immunization shots and I am somebody who my children my two oldest has only had one or two immunization shots By the time I was in my early 20s and I was aware I never gave them those shots ever again My nine-year-old has never had a shot right right and the reason being is because I understand what's inside of it now But when I was younger I did it But to your point in that moment they did not however, I I wholeheartedly believe people from my generation
has been experimented on for quite some time.
When it comes to these shots, when it comes to them telling us we need certain things.
For example, my mom, she got the immunization, I'm sorry, the COVID shot.
Right after she got it during the pandemic, she ended up getting congestive heart failure.
He was
in the
Yeah,
me?
Yeah,
Because it's not like you just go to a random person and say, hey, we're doing this research on da da da.
No, you came with data behind scenes.
You have information that is not privy to the public.
Yeah.
And you're utilizing this as a way of making it broad in general by saying we want to you're a part of we're just doing a study.
No, you're targeting specific people.
for a specific reason, right?
And I have been through so much with, except for my oldest daughter, Kennedy, with my pregnancy, with my son and my pregnancy with my youngest daughter, I have been through so much.
Those were the worst pregnancies I've had out of all three health wise.
So there was things that I had to, I had to go to the doctor more than others.
I had hyperemesis, which is you can't keep anything down, not even water, right?
like your body is literally rejecting everything that you put inside of
So a lot of, like my family,
In particular, we have traditions from the South.
So I highly doubt it.
Me, I did, but I didn't.
I used it like to avoid diaper rashes or corn starch or something like that.
I started using more natural ingredients, but initially I did use baby powder.
And it was something that was not taught, but it's just like, it's a combination.
You bought a blue baby magic and you bought the...
baby powder it.
And it's, you know, it's more so for the smell and obviously to keep a sweat to avoid rashes and stuff.
But you want your baby to smell like a baby.
So
absolutely.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
We got to talk more about this because I think this is a really fantastic way.
Thank you.
Tap it with Jazz.
Tap it with Jazz is next.
Anyway, Jazz Tyler is next.
Hey, y'all, I'm glad you guys came out.
You're in the great vine.
We're going to come back with this topic again.
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So Milwaukee.
I want to, I got something to really, really tell you.
And this is really big.
$5.5 billion worth of big.
So.
We're gonna talk about our bodies.
We're gonna talk about who power and who controls it, but this is a new arena This hour is about a company that had the power to warn black women Listen to this had the power to warn black women about what's in their own bathroom cabinet And they chose
They chose silence.
Exactly.
We got that queued up.
It's about this company.
Y'all might know them.
They're called Johnson & Johnson.
Johnson &
Johnson.
will pay $5.5 billion to resolve tens of thousands of lawsuits alleging its baby powder and talc products cause ovarian cancer.
The landmark settlement covers 69,000 cases in a decade long court battle that has marred the company name.
Johnson and Johnson still says the claims were meritless, but that they were willing to settle just to get the closure.
Johnson and Johnson will pay $5.5 billion to resolve
Tens of
Whoo.
Y'all need to find out how y'all get, how do we, how do we get a part of that?
I need to understand where, where, how can we get a part of that?
And they said for decades, ovarian cancer, let's look up ovarian cancer, ovarian cancer, ovarian, ovarian cancer.
rates in Milwaukee.
Yes.
Oh, they said it's 11 new cases per 100,000 in Milwaukee County.
There's 11.4 new cases per 100,000 women per year.
So average of new cases about 62 women diagnosed each year.
I got a lot of questions in relationship to this because.
This is you talk about an ovary like you're not talking about like I Mean all cancer is is devastating But an ovary your Your ability Is taken away Your ability is taken away with With a talc with a with a powder from the moment you
put it on your child.
This is really, really interesting.
For decades, Johnson and Johnson, their baby powder, it's been linked to ovarian cancer and mesothelioma.
So 2018, a jury awarded Johnson and Johnson to pay 4.6
billion dollars to billion dollars to 22 women.
22 women.
The Missouri Supreme Court upheld it.
The wins keep coming.
LA Jury, 40 million.
2025.
Philadelphia jury, 250,000 this past January.
Johnson and Johnson had to pull the baby powder off, off the shelves.
They had to pull the baby powder off the shelves like it Chat you have y'all people in the chat Did you and when you're you when you were younger did you use baby powder on your children?
Did you use baby powder on your children?
Especially the young girls Like I remember even people
who were like, even I was in high school and people were bringing baby powder to, people were bringing baby powder to, uh, to school because, you know, they didn't want to, they didn't want to stay.
So after gym class, they'll put baby powder on a, you know, on a person, on a body.
Like, but they, this was, this is not, this is not.
Something to play with if you guys and this is something to weigh in For you all for everybody else who has used baby powder on their on their children Please look this up because there has to be a way for you to actually enjoying into Whatever these proceedings are it has to be a way ovarian cancer And I
dare.
I think the next segment, we're going to talk about the ingredients and how that came to be, how that came to be.
What is actually in this particular talk and powder that would cause somebody ovarian cancer, let alone this, we can even talk about the amount of products that are on shelves right now, i.e.
toothbrushes.
toothbrushes the bristles from toothbrushes by an organic person's perspective have what you name it microplastics microplastics and what and and Microplastics them what we're gonna look up.
What are microplastics?
I'm gonna get a official definition.
What are microplastics?
Watch this
What are microplastics?
Microplastics are tiny pieces of plastic less than five centimeters about the size of a seed or smaller.
Many are small that you cannot see them with the naked eye.
What do microplastics do to your body?
What do microplastics do to your body?
I feel like this a research channel.
We need to know it may trigger inflammation.
Microplastics may trigger inflammation.
And I'm just saying, I'm, we're talking about, I'm, I went, I'm pushing the bar.
Cause it's not just, it's not just.
It's not just the talk in the, in the baby powder.
We're talking about products that you use every day that are harmful to your body.
products that you use every day.
And every day is funny because they push not just baby powder, but they push us drinking water out of what?
Plastic bottles out of plastic bottles.
So your immune system, your immune system naturally, if you can recognize plastics, plastic particles as foreign objects and it can lead to chronic inflammation.
Tissue irritation.
So for example, it can lead to you having some type of issue with, with your muscle tissues, oxidative stress.
Like there are, there are, this microplastics can lead to a lot.
So whatever we are ingesting from, from our retailers because it's marketed right.
doesn't mean it's good for your body.
It's like, you can put, it's like putting, it's gonna sound wild.
It's like wrapping a cigarette with a piece of lettuce.
Well, maybe not today's lettuce, but last year's lettuce.
Wrapping a cigarette with lettuce.
Just because you wrapped it in lettuce,
And it looks good and it looks healthy.
That don't mean that is, that don't mean that is healthy.
Just cause you wrap water with a, this cause you got water in a plastic bottle and they're, they're telling you to drink it.
Doesn't mean that it's healthy.
Just because you got baby powder and it smells good.
Doesn't mean that it's, doesn't mean that it's healthy.
Doesn't mean that at all.
We are, we are living in a day and age in which listen.
We're living in a day and age in which this deception is
reality.
Thank God for my parents.
Deception is reality.
That's what we're living in that day and age.
Hey, y'all, we're going to continue to talk about this because I, but y'all, we got, we talking about power, power outages.
We gotta talk about this.
We need to talk about this.
I'm gonna go down the rabbit hole might as well.
We'll be back in three
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Yes.
I'm going to go to the chat.
I'm going to go to the chat.
Hey y'all.
Jasmine, what's up?
Hey y'all.
I see the effects of the flood, especially black homeowners.
I feel that.
LaRon Taylor said.
Uh, Wisconsin had an earthquake and Miss Sandra is the only one who knows about it.
According to Google, our last earthquake was 2024.
Sometimes you can't trust Google.
You know, it probably was some day, some, it probably was more than that.
Uh, sir chants.
Oh wow.
That's crazy, but accurate pertinent to the Johnson and Johnson baby powder.
A lot of folks got paid and well, all is not over yet.
The baby oil.
He is also sus.
Look what happened to Diddy.
He went wild on that one though.
You went wild on that.
You went wild on that, Sir Chance.
You went wild.
Hey y'all, if you used baby powder, according to Sir Chance, if you use baby oil, then
Let us know let us know.
I don't know what's in the baby oil.
I don't I'm doing it.
I think they still sell it I think it's different types of baby oil out there.
I don't know I made my daughter use coconut oil so You know There's that 833 212 1017 if you use baby powder if you use baby oil
Let us know eight three three two one two one zero one seven.
I want to hear from you I want to hear from you.
I want to know so let's find out what was in what was in that Baby powder that Johnson and Johnson got sued for y'all want to know I want to know Because it's probably still in our bodies talc natural occurring
mineral that's often found in the earth near asbestos crickets.
If talc is not carefully sourced and tested asbestos fibers can contaminate it asbestos is a known human carcinogen that can lead to lung cancer and ovarian cancer and mesothelioma.
So there you have it.
There you have it the top particles themselves move into the pelvis and they remain there for years For years For years It's crazy and they these people we're gonna get into why Why Johnson and Johnson was sued we go like there's I think there's more to the story
So even if asbestos is not present, researchers had long term proposed that there was a long term application of talcum powder to the general genitalia area that could allow the particles to travel through the reproductive tract.
Y'all heard that?
So many.
Pete, this is, they shouldn't even be in business.
I think they filed for bankruptcy so many times, like every time they got sued, they filed for bankruptcy, but they should not be in business at all.
They should be shut down and that's criminal because you're taking away, in some cases, you're taking away people's right to live.
You're taking away their quality of life.
You're taking away their ability to have children.
You're taking away generations and legacy.
You're taking it away.
You're taking it away.
They said there is some studies found a small association between genital talk and ovarian cancer.
Yup.
And why, why were they sued?
Here's, here we go.
The talk contained asbestos.
I cannot believe this.
Oh my gosh.
The talk contained asbestos and the company failed.
The company failed to warn consumers.
I'm going to say this again.
The company failed to warn consumers, y'all.
This is, this is not just, it ain't just a lawsuit.
I'm telling you, this is criminal.
They knew about this.
They knew it had asbestos as like, you know how many people use baby powder?
Bro, is Johnson Johnson still in, still in business?
Let's check.
Johnson and Johnson.
Y'all still in business?
Y'all still in business?
Johnson and Johnson.
Watch.
I bet you they are.
What'd they sell?
Johnson and Johnson.
Oh, you know what?
Band-Aids.
Yup.
Pharmaceutical company.
Johnson and Johnson.
Still, they are still in business.
They are still in business.
Look, man.
It's a nice little website too.
Johnson and Johnson still in business.
Ain't said nothing.
Ain't said nothing about mesothelioma.
Ain't said nothing about ovarian health.
The ovarian cancer ain't said nothing about sorry.
You know, we nothing.
Absolutely nothing.
Nothing.
The company agreed.
to the company agreed to a multi-billion dollar settlement to resolve tens of thousands of ovarian cancer claims.
Ovarian cancer, y'all, without admitting that its products cause cancer.
It's not funny, but what?
My little six-year-old is like, she don't.
My six year old will understand this one, but she would be like, what?
What daddy?
What?
Ovarian cancer claims, they agree to the settlement without admitting that its products cause cancer, but it was proven that its products had asbestos and cause cancer.
Come on.
They might as well just put OJ on trial.
On a civil trial.
I mean, yeah, okay.
The glove didn't fit.
Got it.
But he got sued and lost.
I'm pretty sure he lost in civil court.
And I'm not saying OJ, I'm not going down that rap hole if he did it or not did it.
Didn't do it.
But, but, but.
Johnson and Johnson.
Okay It's crazy like how do you How are you sued for billions and billions of dollars you file for bankruptcy a number of times And you can't even admit that your products cause cancer ovarian cancer that is foul you're you've just destroyed up
And that was 22 women that were awarded that.
And I'm pretty sure they probably took their time.
They filed bankruptcy.
They probably got a couple of dollars settled for much, much less.
This is this is what I'm talking about.
I wonder, like in our black community, like I already know, I know that it was a lot of mamas using.
Baby powder, a lot, a lot of mom was using baby powder back in the day.
Oh, just put the baby powder on light.
And they said the first place, the first place that this baby powder, the asbestos attacked was the baby's pelvis and it stayed in the baby's in the, in the child's body for years, for years.
So we're not even talking about, just imagine, we're not even talking about the asbestos in it just causing ovarian cancer, mesothelioma and some other stuff, right?
What we're talking about is, that's what we do know.
What don't we know?
There's probably other things that we don't know.
It's probably plenty of other stuff that we don't know about this, what, what it causes.
I mean, autism, probably you name it.
Yes.
LaRon Taylor said, I use more afroshain than any human was supposed to.
I think that is my problem.
Probably.
You don't even know what's an afroshain.
Like.
Do people really read the ingredients?
Do people really read the ingredients on?
On anything do you look do you look up the ingredients on the things that that you use and put on your body?
I Want to know I really want to know Because if if you don't just think about
What I said about microplastics, microplastics, they don't disappear if they break apart and they break apart again and they break apart again and they break apart again.
And, and then they go into the blood, the lungs, placenta, breast milk, your testicles, brain tissue.
If plastic can get in the body, if plastic can get in the body.
Shouldn't we at least ask for what happens after 50 years?
Shouldn't we be asking these questions?
Man, don't get me started on science.
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What's the word?
So we are going down this rabbit hole of cancer.
And I know we were just talking about the Johnson and Johnson.
5.5 billion dollar lawsuit.
And you have a unique journey in relationship to cancer.
And I know you popped in, you're popping in because I think this, this type of conversation, uh, doesn't, has to, has to go further than being unheard.
Has to be heard multiple in multiple layers and on multiple levels.
Exactly.
So in 2017, my aunt was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer and passed away three weeks after she was diagnosed.
And this was the first death that we had experienced my generation and my family.
A year later, I was diagnosed with breast cancer.
at the age of 30.
When I was diagnosed, I'm not gonna say accident because nothing is accidental, but I went for my regular yearly OBGYN checkup and he felt lumps in my left breast.
When I went to get the ultrasound, it showed cancer in my right breast.
So had I not called action ladies, make sure that you stay going to the doctor, right?
Not just for your regular checkups, but don't believe that
you have to wait until you're 42 to get a mammogram.
If you
have family members who have had cancer and it's a gene, then you need to go and get that taken care of prior to that.
So we found all of that out.
At the same time I was diagnosed, my cousin, Jaquisha, was diagnosed with breast cancer as well.
She was two years older than me.
Rest in peace to Jaquisha.
But what ended up happening is I was able to push through.
She passed away.
So
when you go through cancer, they're going to automatically introduce radiation, chemotherapy to moxifilin specifically for breast cancer.
I declined all three.
I did not do radiation.
I did not do chemotherapy.
And I refuse to take to moxifilin for my own personal beliefs.
And granted, I was in stage one, so.
It may vary depending on what stage you're in.
Like some people may have to, like my sister Queeta had to do chemotherapy because she was in stage three, I believe.
And that was the only way that she was gonna be able to get rid of it.
But what happens is after you go through recovery and they want you to see your specialist, they let you know that there's a chance it could come back, but in any form.
So it can come back as ovarian cancer.
It can come back as cervical cancer It can come back as breast cancer.
It can come back as brain cancer It can come back as any form of cancer as long as the cancer cell has been ignited,
So what it does is it alarms you and make you feel like In panic mode, yeah, right for me, I think the first month
That was my thought process like I'm only 30.
I don't want it to come back What can I do to stop it from coming back?
And that's what made me Stay on my health journey now.
I'm not I'm guilty.
I don't eat clean all the time, right?
But that reminder reminds me why I need to because again what we put in our body It matters.
So at 38 years old I took the genealogy test.
Yeah, my paternal grandmother
had cancer.
My paternal uncle had cancer.
My paternal aunt had cancer.
My maternal aunt had cancer.
My
However, that gene, it came back unattermed when I took that test, which is weird because if it's on both sides, why wouldn't it come back?
And that's a whole different conversation as far as experimental and the results that they give you because they really can give you whatever, you know, answer they want to give you.
But when that answer came back, it had me doing a little bit more research as to, is it actually genetics or does it pertain to what we're putting in our bodies?
And again, as 38, my thought process is, when my mom is 68,
when
food,
Junk
We started to see cupcakes.
We started to see high-flammings We started to see wildwood sodas all of these things in the corner stores And then I look and see the duration.
How long have we been eating this over 30 years?
Yeah, so when you're constantly putting these things in your body
for over 30 years, these are the very things that are going to cause cancer, right?
So I think the biggest myth is that it's genetic, it's not genetic.
It's based off of what they're giving us to put inside of our bodies.
but
not.
Right.
Yeah.
And I had straddled the fence for so long because I knew that I had a calling, but I still was dabbling into a lifestyle that I shouldn't have been.
So that for me was more so, are you going to be hot or cold?
You could be either or, but you got to choose one.
And I chose a side, which was God's side.
So I had to take that, eat that.
Like during my whole cancer, I didn't cry when I was diagnosed with my recovery.
I didn't cry until a year after I went through my recovery.
because I understood the transformation that was happening and the new person that I was becoming.
It did trigger me because right before I was diagnosed, I had just started back working out.
This was a year after my youngest daughter was born.
So I finally got the motivation to get up and work out and exercise, and then boom, I get hit with this, which is part of, subconsciously, a trigger-wide-
right?
I need to get become healthy.
I had gained a lot of weight after I had my youngest daughter and recently I beat it.
But up until recently.
I wouldn't work out for that reason.
I didn't understand subconsciously that it was a trigger.
But I never liked to be the victim in any circumstances, except for circumstances that I like.
That's extreme.
But with this in particular, it was like it took out my eye and it took out too many of my family members for me to sit back and allow it to beat me.
I refuse to be a victim to cancer, right?
I refuse to be a victim to being a guinea pig for certain hospitals and things of that nature because, again, that's another conversation, but there's a lot of experimental work that goes inside of utilizing black women specifically when it comes to cancer or anything because they feel like we are the strongest human beings on this earth and we can handle
I know this because I see my mom.
I see how strong she is.
I see my grandparent, my grandmothers go through things.
And this world, as we know it today in relationship to the human population would not have been itself without the black woman, the black woman, the eve of our
DNA now our DNA and our RNA now would was She saved the population that Our Earth's population that we as we see it today.
She saved it one person in Africa saved the entire population That's a strong person.
That's a strong woman.
Yeah
Hey, y'all when we come back we're gonna continue on with with this conversation Man, this is crazy.
I want to talk about human guinea pigs and you know what what jazz thinks about human guinea pigs the black women like Henrietta Lacks and Tuskegee and some of those folks that we We kind of perused through and not remembered
Let's remember those folks when we come back in three.
Yo,
Last couple of minutes with tap in with Jazz.
Jazz Tyler, you are back.
Man, we on the grapevine.
We pick a great tapping in.
We do it all right now.
We you got a unique journey.
We were just talking about.
your cancer journey.
But before we got through that, before we got out of that conversation, we were talking about the black woman and how important the black woman is, how strong the black woman is.
Then we talked about the amount of black people and specifically black women
History has shown us that, but I personally know that I was a part of some research study as a pertain to being a guinea pig without even knowing I was.
So from my personal experience, again, this is my personal experience.
It does not reflect every other Black woman's story, but mine specifically as a pertain to the healthcare system in Milwaukee.
I was 19 years old when I had my first child and 21, I had my second.
When you're a young mother who is trying to survive, I've always had my own house, job, car, but it still was hard, especially raising two children at once.
They prey on you.
So they'll approach you and say hey, we're doing a Research study about your experience.
We just want to have some conversations with you and we're offering a stipend and When your money is low you like oh, yeah, I take the stipend right these are conversations that our parents don't know to have with us right because they didn't experience it or They dressed it up in a way that they didn't know they was unaware so when it was brought to me I did it and then I end up being compensated for it, but when I went back
was
But when the person came to interview me, those were not the questions she had asked.
However, I had already signed the agreement to do it.
And again, I could have denied it right then and there, but I did not know I was unaware.
So there's something about black women having strength, but young black women
being scared to cost of out when they don't, especially when they come from an environment where they don't feel protected.
So I didn't call it out, right?
I just went along with it.
And when she did it, she started to ask questions that had nothing to do with what they initially sent me.
And I thought about it, but it was just a thought.
My mind was focused on surviving.
And right now, my baby need pampers and pull-ups.
And this money that they're giving me is going to help.
But the more I became older, when I got older and matured, I went back and when I was diagnosed with cancer, I went back and looked at my MyChart and just went down the line.
2016, I was pregnant.
They diagnosed me with fibromyalgia.
2018, I'm diagnosed with cancer.
2020, I'm diagnosed with lupus.
Now I'm like, why am I being diagnosed with all of these things?
It wasn't making sense because prior to my pregnancy, I wasn't.
So then it had me thinking like, dang, did the pregnancy trigger something?
No, I look at my daughter, she's an angel.
So I know it had nothing to do with her.
So now I'm questioning myself on why did they initially ask me if I wanted to be a part of the research
Well, let me, in that moment, no.
But what they do is,
Immunization shots and I am somebody who my children my two oldest has only had one or two immunization shots By the time I was in my early 20s and I was aware I never gave them those shots ever again My nine-year-old has never had a shot right right and the reason being is because I understand what's inside of it now But when I was younger I did it But to your point in that moment they did not however, I I wholeheartedly believe people from my generation
has been experimented on for quite some time.
When it comes to these shots, when it comes to them telling us we need certain things.
For example, my mom, she got the immunization, I'm sorry, the COVID shot.
Right after she got it during the pandemic, she ended up getting congestive heart failure.
He was
in the
Yeah,
me?
Yeah,
Because it's not like you just go to a random person and say, hey, we're doing this research on da da da.
No, you came with data behind scenes.
You have information that is not privy to the public.
Yeah.
And you're utilizing this as a way of making it broad in general by saying we want to you're a part of we're just doing a study.
No, you're targeting specific people.
for a specific reason, right?
And I have been through so much with, except for my oldest daughter, Kennedy, with my pregnancy, with my son and my pregnancy with my youngest daughter, I have been through so much.
Those were the worst pregnancies I've had out of all three health wise.
So there was things that I had to, I had to go to the doctor more than others.
I had hyperemesis, which is you can't keep anything down, not even water, right?
like your body is literally rejecting everything that you put inside of
So a lot of, like my family,
In particular, we have traditions from the South.
So I highly doubt it.
Me, I did, but I didn't.
I used it like to avoid diaper rashes or corn starch or something like that.
I started using more natural ingredients, but initially I did use baby powder.
And it was something that was not taught, but it's just like, it's a combination.
You bought a blue baby magic and you bought the...
baby powder it.
And it's, you know, it's more so for the smell and obviously to keep a sweat to avoid rashes and stuff.
But you want your baby to smell like a baby.
So
absolutely.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
We got to talk more about this because I think this is a really fantastic way.
Thank you.
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