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I want to, I got something to really, really tell you.
And this is really big.
$5.5 billion worth of big.
So.
We're gonna talk about our bodies.
We're gonna talk about who power and who controls it, but this is a new arena This hour is about a company that had the power to warn black women Listen to this had the power to warn black women about what's in their own bathroom cabinet And they chose
They chose silence.
Exactly.
We got that queued up.
It's about this company.
Y'all might know them.
They're called Johnson & Johnson.
Johnson &
Johnson.
will pay $5.5 billion to resolve tens of thousands of lawsuits alleging its baby powder and talc products cause ovarian cancer.
The landmark settlement covers 69,000 cases in a decade long court battle that has marred the company name.
Johnson and Johnson still says the claims were meritless, but that they were willing to settle just to get the closure.
Johnson and Johnson will pay $5.5 billion to resolve
Tens of
Whoo.
Y'all need to find out how y'all get, how do we, how do we get a part of that?
I need to understand where, where, how can we get a part of that?
And they said for decades, ovarian cancer, let's look up ovarian cancer, ovarian cancer, ovarian, ovarian cancer.
rates in Milwaukee.
Yes.
Oh, they said it's 11 new cases per 100,000 in Milwaukee County.
There's 11.4 new cases per 100,000 women per year.
So average of new cases about 62 women diagnosed each year.
I got a lot of questions in relationship to this because.
This is you talk about an ovary like you're not talking about like I Mean all cancer is is devastating But an ovary your Your ability Is taken away Your ability is taken away with With a talc with a with a powder from the moment you
put it on your child.
This is really, really interesting.
For decades, Johnson and Johnson, their baby powder, it's been linked to ovarian cancer and mesothelioma.
So 2018, a jury awarded Johnson and Johnson to pay 4.6
billion dollars to billion dollars to 22 women.
22 women.
The Missouri Supreme Court upheld it.
The wins keep coming.
LA Jury, 40 million.
2025.
Philadelphia jury, 250,000 this past January.
Johnson and Johnson had to pull the baby powder off, off the shelves.
They had to pull the baby powder off the shelves like it Chat you have y'all people in the chat Did you and when you're you when you were younger did you use baby powder on your children?
Did you use baby powder on your children?
Especially the young girls Like I remember even people
who were like, even I was in high school and people were bringing baby powder to, people were bringing baby powder to, uh, to school because, you know, they didn't want to, they didn't want to stay.
So after gym class, they'll put baby powder on a, you know, on a person, on a body.
Like, but they, this was, this is not, this is not.
Something to play with if you guys and this is something to weigh in For you all for everybody else who has used baby powder on their on their children Please look this up because there has to be a way for you to actually enjoying into Whatever these proceedings are it has to be a way ovarian cancer And I
dare.
I think the next segment, we're going to talk about the ingredients and how that came to be, how that came to be.
What is actually in this particular talk and powder that would cause somebody ovarian cancer, let alone this, we can even talk about the amount of products that are on shelves right now, i.e.
toothbrushes.
toothbrushes the bristles from toothbrushes by an organic person's perspective have what you name it microplastics microplastics and what and and Microplastics them what we're gonna look up.
What are microplastics?
I'm gonna get a official definition.
What are microplastics?
Watch this
What are microplastics?
Microplastics are tiny pieces of plastic less than five centimeters about the size of a seed or smaller.
Many are small that you cannot see them with the naked eye.
What do microplastics do to your body?
What do microplastics do to your body?
I feel like this a research channel.
We need to know it may trigger inflammation.
Microplastics may trigger inflammation.
And I'm just saying, I'm, we're talking about, I'm, I went, I'm pushing the bar.
Cause it's not just, it's not just.
It's not just the talk in the, in the baby powder.
We're talking about products that you use every day that are harmful to your body.
products that you use every day.
And every day is funny because they push not just baby powder, but they push us drinking water out of what?
Plastic bottles out of plastic bottles.
So your immune system, your immune system naturally, if you can recognize plastics, plastic particles as foreign objects and it can lead to chronic inflammation.
Tissue irritation.
So for example, it can lead to you having some type of issue with, with your muscle tissues, oxidative stress.
Like there are, there are, this microplastics can lead to a lot.
So whatever we are ingesting from, from our retailers because it's marketed right.
doesn't mean it's good for your body.
It's like, you can put, it's like putting, it's gonna sound wild.
It's like wrapping a cigarette with a piece of lettuce.
Well, maybe not today's lettuce, but last year's lettuce.
Wrapping a cigarette with lettuce.
Just because you wrapped it in lettuce,
And it looks good and it looks healthy.
That don't mean that is, that don't mean that is healthy.
Just cause you wrap water with a, this cause you got water in a plastic bottle and they're, they're telling you to drink it.
Doesn't mean that it's healthy.
Just because you got baby powder and it smells good.
Doesn't mean that it's, doesn't mean that it's healthy.
Doesn't mean that at all.
We are, we are living in a day and age in which listen.
We're living in a day and age in which this deception is
reality.
Thank God for my parents.
Deception is reality.
That's what we're living in that day and age.
Hey, y'all, we're going to continue to talk about this because I, but y'all, we got, we talking about power, power outages.
We gotta talk about this.
We need to talk about this.
I'm gonna go down the rabbit hole might as well.
We'll be back in three
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Yes.
I'm going to go to the chat.
I'm going to go to the chat.
Hey y'all.
Jasmine, what's up?
Hey y'all.
I see the effects of the flood, especially black homeowners.
I feel that.
LaRon Taylor said.
Uh, Wisconsin had an earthquake and Miss Sandra is the only one who knows about it.
According to Google, our last earthquake was 2024.
Sometimes you can't trust Google.
You know, it probably was some day, some, it probably was more than that.
Uh, sir chants.
Oh wow.
That's crazy, but accurate pertinent to the Johnson and Johnson baby powder.
A lot of folks got paid and well, all is not over yet.
The baby oil.
He is also sus.
Look what happened to Diddy.
He went wild on that one though.
You went wild on that.
You went wild on that, Sir Chance.
You went wild.
Hey y'all, if you used baby powder, according to Sir Chance, if you use baby oil, then
Let us know let us know.
I don't know what's in the baby oil.
I don't I'm doing it.
I think they still sell it I think it's different types of baby oil out there.
I don't know I made my daughter use coconut oil so You know There's that 833 212 1017 if you use baby powder if you use baby oil
Let us know eight three three two one two one zero one seven.
I want to hear from you I want to hear from you.
I want to know so let's find out what was in what was in that Baby powder that Johnson and Johnson got sued for y'all want to know I want to know Because it's probably still in our bodies talc natural occurring
mineral that's often found in the earth near asbestos crickets.
If talc is not carefully sourced and tested asbestos fibers can contaminate it asbestos is a known human carcinogen that can lead to lung cancer and ovarian cancer and mesothelioma.
So there you have it.
There you have it the top particles themselves move into the pelvis and they remain there for years For years For years It's crazy and they these people we're gonna get into why Why Johnson and Johnson was sued we go like there's I think there's more to the story
So even if asbestos is not present, researchers had long term proposed that there was a long term application of talcum powder to the general genitalia area that could allow the particles to travel through the reproductive tract.
Y'all heard that?
So many.
Pete, this is, they shouldn't even be in business.
I think they filed for bankruptcy so many times, like every time they got sued, they filed for bankruptcy, but they should not be in business at all.
They should be shut down and that's criminal because you're taking away, in some cases, you're taking away people's right to live.
You're taking away their quality of life.
You're taking away their ability to have children.
You're taking away generations and legacy.
You're taking it away.
You're taking it away.
They said there is some studies found a small association between genital talk and ovarian cancer.
Yup.
And why, why were they sued?
Here's, here we go.
The talk contained asbestos.
I cannot believe this.
Oh my gosh.
The talk contained asbestos and the company failed.
The company failed to warn consumers.
I'm going to say this again.
The company failed to warn consumers, y'all.
This is, this is not just, it ain't just a lawsuit.
I'm telling you, this is criminal.
They knew about this.
They knew it had asbestos as like, you know how many people use baby powder?
Bro, is Johnson Johnson still in, still in business?
Let's check.
Johnson and Johnson.
Y'all still in business?
Y'all still in business?
Johnson and Johnson.
Watch.
I bet you they are.
What'd they sell?
Johnson and Johnson.
Oh, you know what?
Band-Aids.
Yup.
Pharmaceutical company.
Johnson and Johnson.
Still, they are still in business.
They are still in business.
Look, man.
It's a nice little website too.
Johnson and Johnson still in business.
Ain't said nothing.
Ain't said nothing about mesothelioma.
Ain't said nothing about ovarian health.
The ovarian cancer ain't said nothing about sorry.
You know, we nothing.
Absolutely nothing.
Nothing.
The company agreed.
to the company agreed to a multi-billion dollar settlement to resolve tens of thousands of ovarian cancer claims.
Ovarian cancer, y'all, without admitting that its products cause cancer.
It's not funny, but what?
My little six-year-old is like, she don't.
My six year old will understand this one, but she would be like, what?
What daddy?
What?
Ovarian cancer claims, they agree to the settlement without admitting that its products cause cancer, but it was proven that its products had asbestos and cause cancer.
Come on.
They might as well just put OJ on trial.
On a civil trial.
I mean, yeah, okay.
The glove didn't fit.
Got it.
But he got sued and lost.
I'm pretty sure he lost in civil court.
And I'm not saying OJ, I'm not going down that rap hole if he did it or not did it.
Didn't do it.
But, but, but.
Johnson and Johnson.
Okay It's crazy like how do you How are you sued for billions and billions of dollars you file for bankruptcy a number of times And you can't even admit that your products cause cancer ovarian cancer that is foul you're you've just destroyed up
And that was 22 women that were awarded that.
And I'm pretty sure they probably took their time.
They filed bankruptcy.
They probably got a couple of dollars settled for much, much less.
This is this is what I'm talking about.
I wonder, like in our black community, like I already know, I know that it was a lot of mamas using.
Baby powder, a lot, a lot of mom was using baby powder back in the day.
Oh, just put the baby powder on light.
And they said the first place, the first place that this baby powder, the asbestos attacked was the baby's pelvis and it stayed in the baby's in the, in the child's body for years, for years.
So we're not even talking about, just imagine, we're not even talking about the asbestos in it just causing ovarian cancer, mesothelioma and some other stuff, right?
What we're talking about is, that's what we do know.
What don't we know?
There's probably other things that we don't know.
It's probably plenty of other stuff that we don't know about this, what, what it causes.
I mean, autism, probably you name it.
Yes.
LaRon Taylor said, I use more afroshain than any human was supposed to.
I think that is my problem.
Probably.
You don't even know what's an afroshain.
Like.
Do people really read the ingredients?
Do people really read the ingredients on?
On anything do you look do you look up the ingredients on the things that that you use and put on your body?
I Want to know I really want to know Because if if you don't just think about
What I said about microplastics, microplastics, they don't disappear if they break apart and they break apart again and they break apart again and they break apart again.
And, and then they go into the blood, the lungs, placenta, breast milk, your testicles, brain tissue.
If plastic can get in the body, if plastic can get in the body.
Shouldn't we at least ask for what happens after 50 years?
Shouldn't we be asking these questions?
Man, don't get me started on science.
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What's the word?
So we are going down this rabbit hole of cancer.
And I know we were just talking about the Johnson and Johnson.
5.5 billion dollar lawsuit.
And you have a unique journey in relationship to cancer.
And I know you popped in, you're popping in because I think this, this type of conversation, uh, doesn't, has to, has to go further than being unheard.
Has to be heard multiple in multiple layers and on multiple levels.
Exactly.
ahead.
So in 2017, my aunt was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer and passed away three weeks after she was diagnosed.
And this was the first death that we had experienced my generation and my family.
A year later, I was diagnosed with breast cancer.
at the age of 30.
When I was diagnosed, I'm not gonna say accident because nothing is accidental, but I went for my regular yearly OBGYN checkup and he felt lumps in my left breast.
When I went to get the ultrasound, it showed cancer in my right breast.
So had I not called action ladies, make sure that you stay going to the doctor, right?
Not just for your regular checkups, but don't believe that
you have to wait until you're 42 to get a mammogram.
If you
have family members who have had cancer and it's a gene, then you need to go and get that taken care of prior to that.
So we found all of that out.
At the same time I was diagnosed, my cousin, Jaquisha, was diagnosed with breast cancer as well.
She was two years older than me.
Rest in peace to Jaquisha.
But what ended up happening is I was able to push through.
She passed away.
She passed away because it spread into her brain.
So
when you go through cancer, they're going to automatically introduce radiation, chemotherapy to moxifilin specifically for breast cancer.
I declined all three.
I did not do radiation.
I did not do chemotherapy.
And I refuse to take to moxifilin for my own personal beliefs.
And granted, I was in stage one, so.
It may vary depending on what stage you're in.
Like some people may have to, like my sister Queeta had to do chemotherapy because she was in stage three, I believe.
And that was the only way that she was gonna be able to get rid of it.
But what happens is after you go through recovery and they want you to see your specialist, they let you know that there's a chance it could come back, but in any form.
So it can come back as ovarian cancer.
It can come back as cervical cancer It can come back as breast cancer.
It can come back as brain cancer It can come back as any form of cancer as long as the cancer cell has been ignited,
It can come back
exactly Yeah, exactly.
So what it does is it alarms you and make you feel like In panic mode, yeah, right for me, I think the first month
That was my thought process like I'm only 30.
I don't want it to come back What can I do to stop it from coming back?
And that's what made me Stay on my health journey now.
I'm not I'm guilty.
I don't eat clean all the time, right?
But that reminder reminds me why I need to because again what we put in our body It matters.
So at 38 years old I took the genealogy test.
Yeah, my paternal grandmother
had cancer.
My paternal uncle had cancer.
My paternal aunt had cancer.
My maternal aunt had cancer.
My
paternal sister had cancer.
However, that gene, it came back unattermed when I took that test, which is weird because if it's on both sides, why wouldn't it come back?
And that's a whole different conversation as far as experimental and the results that they give you because they really can give you whatever, you know, answer they want to give you.
But when that answer came back, it had me doing a little bit more research as to, is it actually genetics or does it pertain to what we're putting in our bodies?
And again, as 38, my thought process is, when my mom is 68,
when
she was growing up, there was no junk
food,
right?
Junk
food was them going in the backyard to pick up rhubarb from the...
Garden and you know eating that or apples or whatever the case may be.
right in the early 90s.
We started to see cupcakes.
We started to see high-flammings We started to see wildwood sodas all of these things in the corner stores And then I look and see the duration.
How long have we been eating this over 30 years?
Yeah, so when you're constantly putting these things in your body
for over 30 years, these are the very things that are going to cause cancer, right?
So I think the biggest myth is that it's genetic, it's not genetic.
It's based off of what they're giving us to put inside of our bodies.
My thought process was why not me?
And it has to be that, because I'm one of God's soldiers.
I know that things that I have been faced with since I was a little girl, and there's a lot of people with similar stories,
but
I know my journey.
And I know that I'm on his strongest soldier's list, whether I want to be or
not.
So the question was more so for myself, why not me?
Like, OK, this happened to you.
Cancer didn't happen.
Transformation did.
Right.
Meaning that this was something.
So basically, you know, we have the choice to be.
And I'm not religious, but I love this quote from the Bible.
We have a choice to be lukewarm or not.
Yeah.
And I had straddled the fence for so long because I knew that I had a calling, but I still was dabbling into a lifestyle that I shouldn't have been.
So that for me was more so, are you going to be hot or cold?
You could be either or, but you got to choose one.
And I chose a side, which was God's side.
So I had to take that, eat that.
Like during my whole cancer, I didn't cry when I was diagnosed with my recovery.
I didn't cry until a year after I went through my recovery.
because I understood the transformation that was happening and the new person that I was becoming.
It did trigger me because right before I was diagnosed, I had just started back working out.
This was a year after my youngest daughter was born.
So I finally got the motivation to get up and work out and exercise, and then boom, I get hit with this, which is part of, subconsciously, a trigger-wide-
My youngest daughter.
Correct.
Yep.
Um, and it
because I'm like, that's why I treat.
That's why it's a trigger now as far as working out because I was working out faithfully before I was diagnosed,
right?
Because I had this mind frame.
I need to get become healthy.
I had gained a lot of weight after I had my youngest daughter and recently I beat it.
But up until recently.
I wouldn't work out for that reason.
I didn't understand subconsciously that it was a trigger.
But I never liked to be the victim in any circumstances, except for circumstances that I like.
That's extreme.
Correct.
But with this in particular, it was like it took out my eye and it took out too many of my family members for me to sit back and allow it to beat me.
I refuse to be a victim to cancer, right?
I refuse to be a victim to being a guinea pig for certain hospitals and things of that nature because, again, that's another conversation, but there's a lot of experimental work that goes inside of utilizing black women specifically when it comes to cancer or anything because they feel like we are the strongest human beings on this earth and we can handle
I know this because I see my mom.
I see how strong she is.
I see my grandparent, my grandmothers go through things.
And this world, as we know it today in relationship to the human population would not have been itself without the black woman, the black woman, the eve of our
DNA now our DNA and our RNA now would was She saved the population that Our Earth's population that we as we see it today.
She saved it one person in Africa saved the entire population That's a strong person.
That's a strong woman.
Yeah
Hey, y'all when we come back we're gonna continue on with with this conversation Man, this is crazy.
I want to talk about human guinea pigs and you know what what jazz thinks about human guinea pigs the black women like Henrietta Lacks and Tuskegee and some of those folks that we We kind of perused through and not remembered
Let's remember those folks when we come back in three.
Yo,
Last couple of minutes with tap in with Jazz.
Jazz Tyler, you are back.
Man, we on the grapevine.
We pick a great tapping in.
We do it all right now.
We you got a unique journey.
We were just talking about.
your cancer journey.
But before we got through that, before we got out of that conversation, we were talking about the black woman and how important the black woman is, how strong the black woman is.
Then we talked about the amount of black people and specifically black women
who
Correct.
but
We've always been guinea pigs.
History has shown us that, but I personally know that I was a part of some research study as a pertain to being a guinea pig without even knowing I was.
So from my personal experience, again, this is my personal experience.
It does not reflect every other Black woman's story, but mine specifically as a pertain to the healthcare system in Milwaukee.
I was 19 years old when I had my first child and 21, I had my second.
When you're a young mother who is trying to survive, I've always had my own house, job, car, but it still was hard, especially raising two children at once.
They prey on you.
So they'll approach you and say hey, we're doing a Research study about your experience.
We just want to have some conversations with you and we're offering a stipend and When your money is low you like oh, yeah, I take the stipend right these are conversations that our parents don't know to have with us right because they didn't experience it or They dressed it up in a way that they didn't know they was unaware so when it was brought to me I did it and then I end up being compensated for it, but when I went back
correct
So the study was more so like, what was your experience?
This is how they approached it.
What was your experience with this hospital?
How did this make you feel?
Almost like survey questions.
This
was
the initial agreement.
But when the person came to interview me, those were not the questions she had asked.
However, I had already signed the agreement to do it.
And again, I could have denied it right then and there, but I did not know I was unaware.
So there's something about black women having strength, but young black women
being scared to cost of out when they don't, especially when they come from an environment where they don't feel protected.
So I didn't call it out, right?
I just went along with it.
And when she did it, she started to ask questions that had nothing to do with what they initially sent me.
And I thought about it, but it was just a thought.
My mind was focused on surviving.
And right now, my baby need pampers and pull-ups.
And this money that they're giving me is going to help.
But the more I became older, when I got older and matured, I went back and when I was diagnosed with cancer, I went back and looked at my MyChart and just went down the line.
2016, I was pregnant.
They diagnosed me with fibromyalgia.
2018, I'm diagnosed with cancer.
2020, I'm diagnosed with lupus.
Now I'm like, why am I being diagnosed with all of these things?
It wasn't making sense because prior to my pregnancy, I wasn't.
So then it had me thinking like, dang, did the pregnancy trigger something?
No, I look at my daughter, she's an angel.
So I know it had nothing to do with her.
So now I'm questioning myself on why did they initially ask me if I wanted to be a part of the research
anything?
No.
No.
Well, let me, in that moment, no.
But what they do is,
Immunization shots and I am somebody who my children my two oldest has only had one or two immunization shots By the time I was in my early 20s and I was aware I never gave them those shots ever again My nine-year-old has never had a shot right right and the reason being is because I understand what's inside of it now But when I was younger I did it But to your point in that moment they did not however, I I wholeheartedly believe people from my generation
has been experimented on for quite some time.
When it comes to these shots, when it comes to them telling us we need certain things.
For example, my mom, she got the immunization, I'm sorry, the COVID shot.
Right after she got it during the pandemic, she ended up getting congestive heart failure.
He was
Yeah, I didn't get it either, but that's because I'm aware.
But to the research point, what they do is they have a system set in place.
They say, hey, we're looking to target this specific demographic that live in this specific zip code
in the
city of this ethnicity.
And we want to do a research on a certain amount of people, right?
Well, why?
When research is done, it's specifically because something is happening or has happened, rather.
But we don't know what has happened because we're so caught up in Reality TV.
Yeah,
we're caught up in whatever we're caught up in distractions that we don't understand terminology research means something has already happened And you're a part of it specifically if they want to research you right right so my questions should have been why do you want to research
me?
Yeah,
why are you asking me to be a part of this?
Because it's not like you just go to a random person and say, hey, we're doing this research on da da da.
No, you came with data behind scenes.
You have information that is not privy to the public.
Yeah.
And you're utilizing this as a way of making it broad in general by saying we want to you're a part of we're just doing a study.
No, you're targeting specific people.
for a specific reason, right?
And I have been through so much with, except for my oldest daughter, Kennedy, with my pregnancy, with my son and my pregnancy with my youngest daughter, I have been through so much.
Those were the worst pregnancies I've had out of all three health wise.
So there was things that I had to, I had to go to the doctor more than others.
I had hyperemesis, which is you can't keep anything down, not even water, right?
like your body is literally rejecting everything that you put inside of
food.
Anything is rejecting.
Hyperemesis.
So for the first five months, I couldn't eat, I couldn't drink.
Only thing I could do was like, um...
No, no, no, this is prior too.
This
prior.
Um, so, um, when I was thinking back, I'm like, why are they asking me?
Why did they ask me if I wanted to be a part of the research?
And I was frustrated with myself.
because I'm smarter than that, right?
So I never asked her if she used baby powder on me, but I was born in the 80s.
So a lot of, like my family,
In particular, we have traditions from the South.
So I highly doubt it.
Me, I did, but I didn't.
I used it like to avoid diaper rashes or corn starch or something like that.
I started using more natural ingredients, but initially I did use baby powder.
And it was something that was not taught, but it's just like, it's a combination.
You bought a blue baby magic and you bought the...
baby powder it.
And it's, you know, it's more so for the smell and obviously to keep a sweat to avoid rashes and stuff.
But you want your baby to smell like a baby.
So
naturally as a 19 year old mother, all I wanted was for my, my children to be clean, my son to be clean and to smell like a baby.
absolutely.
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
We got the online and we learned.
Absolutely.
We got to talk more about this because I think this is a really fantastic way.
Thank you.
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